Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC): Difficult RB Decisions to Make (12/04 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 4, 2020

We've got tough calls on today's slate like Kyler Murray, Amari Cooper and Kirk Cousins. We'll get to them, but first we'll discuss tricky RBs Miles Sanders, Raheem Mostert, CEH and Kenyan Drake among... others (2:15). Can we trust these guys to get us into the Fantasy playoffs? ... News and notes (10:30) as we tell you who is playing for the Dolphins and Ravens this week and some key defensive injuries we're looking at. Then we'll Beat the Waiver Wire (21:21) for Week 14 and tell you who we are confidently starting in the following games (22:55): NYG-SEA, DAL-BAL, JAC-MIN ... Start or Sit for Rams-Cardinals (30:00), Eagles-Packers (40:00), Bills-49ers (47:10), Saints-Falcons (55:15), Lions-Bears (1:03:00), Giants-Seahawks (1:08:00), Cowboys-Ravens (1:11:50), Jaguars-Vikings (1:15:50) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Listen to the brand new Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-in-5/id1528634304 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:16 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. We've got eight games to talk about today, folks. And let me tell you, we have got some tough matchups to figure out. The Cardinals-Rams, the 49ers-Bills is pretty interesting. I even think the Packers and the Eagles is an interesting one. And many more.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Lions and Bears, for example. What's going on? Welcome to the Friday Show. Hey, Jamie, what's up? You said Lions and Bears. I said, oh, my on? Welcome to the Friday Show. Hey, Jamie. What's up? You said Lions and Bears. I said, oh, my. Oh, my. I know.
Starting point is 00:01:49 Yeah. I thought about that, too. Me, too. Yeah. Yeah. We're all big Wizard of Oz fans over here. I think Mick Hubert. Greatest college football announcer of all time.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Mick Hubert. Oh, okay. Yeah. He says, oh, my. Oh, my. Every time the Gators score. Are the Gators playing at noon on ESPN this week? I sure hope so.
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Starting point is 00:02:42 Nice. Yeah. Put together the FFT show that you two are on. Well, you know, Dave and I really gave you most of the material, to be fair. Yeah, but it was later than usual. Florida plays at 3.30 on Saturday. Oh, wow. Big game?
Starting point is 00:02:58 On CBS. Yeah, that's going to be on CBS if it's 3.30. Okay. College football. All right, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, all right. So we are going to talk just about eight games
Starting point is 00:03:08 and we're going to basically get right into it. I did Twitch yesterday with Chris and Frank and we got a ton of running back questions and I tried to pick the FAQs, basically,
Starting point is 00:03:18 the frequently asked about running backs, essentially. Miles Sanders came up a ton. Raheem Mostert, I think, was probably the most asked about. Clyde Edwards, Z-Lair, and Kenyon Drake. If I had to guess, I would say those are the four names that came up the most. Miles Sanders, Raheem Mostert, Clyde Edwards, Z-Lair,
Starting point is 00:03:34 and Kenyon Drake. All of them were pretty interesting in their own ways. And how do we feel about them, Dave? How would you rank Miles Sanders, Mostert, Edwards, Z-Lair, and Drake? Sanders is still going to be at the top of the list because of the matchup. And then I believe I've got Mostert next, Edward Ziller, Drake, but they're all kind of close together. They're all in that same range of guys that you're hoping can
Starting point is 00:04:00 score a touchdown. At least in the case of Drake, we know that the touches have been there. So not going to fight anybody on moving him ahead or behind Edward Zillair. And Jamie, how do you see this group? Sanders, Mostert, Edward Zillair, Drake? Same, as Dave put it, as you read them.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I think, you know, Mostert hopefully shook off the rust and, you know, will get going a little bit more. It is interesting that they gave Jeff Wilson the same amount of touches. Mostert had a fumble in the game. And now Tevin Coleman's off the injury list. So now you have all four guys at Kyle Shanahan's disposal. Hopefully he doesn't really, you know, make this a full-blown committee
Starting point is 00:04:37 and, you know, limits Mostert. But it's a very favorable game script for Edward Soler, just looking at, you know, how he should be able to run against the Broncos. And then, as Dave said, the touches have been there for Drake and Adam, the story that you pointed out that you sent to us from ESPN, that teams are forcing Kyler Murray to hand the ball off and, you know, throw the ball to his running backs. And so it's a it's a game plan against the Cardinals, which makes sense. I'd rather Kenyon Drake beat me than Kyler Murray beat me. So it's a game plan against the Cardinals, which makes sense. I'd rather Kenyon Drake beat me than Kyler Murray beat me.
Starting point is 00:05:10 And so Kenyon Drake is benefiting in terms of the catches and the way that he's being used. So I think they're all certainly in play. Drake has the toughest matchup of the group, in my opinion. So we'll see how he handles it. But I think all these guys are – Sanders is still a borderline number one running back just based on the matchup, and then everybody else is a quality number two guy.
Starting point is 00:05:31 The one other thing I'll add about Drake, and this is just stunning from where he was earlier this year, he has nine targets his last two games. That's the same as Chase Edmonds, and it ranks tied for fourth, obviously tied because Edmonds has the same, among all running backs the last couple of weeks. There's two backfields that are, you know, you're seeing the starter take over the passing down work,
Starting point is 00:05:53 which was making the second guy viable in PPR. One is Washington, where you're seeing JD McKissick not have the same level of work like he was a few weeks ago. And then this one in Arizona. Yeah. And Drake, one in Arizona. Yeah. And Drake, though, do you feel like Drake has to score? And I will say there have been five running backs. He's been like that all season.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Yeah, but this run defense, I mean, is so good. Five running backs with 15 or more carries against the Rams. Four of them have scored. That's good. But three of them did not rush for more than 65 yards. But when we talk about these great run defenses right now, we're looking at the Saints. We're looking at the Bucs, we're looking at the Falcons.
Starting point is 00:06:27 They've been terrific, especially since, as Jamie's pointed out, especially since Raheem Morris took over. But the Rams have got to be included in their last eight games, their last seven games. There has not been one running back that scored more than 10 non-PPR or 12 PPR fantasy points. Seven straight games against the Rams. How many did Mostert rush for?
Starting point is 00:06:50 I think like 65. Right. So he would have been 12 if not for the fumble. Okay. Did he get hurt in that game? I don't even remember. Mostert? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:02 The first time. I'm talking about last week. Oh, last week. Oh, no. I don't even remember. Mostert? Yeah. The first time. I'm talking about last week. Oh, last week. Oh, no. I don't remember. He had 16 carries for 43 yards and a touchdown. Sorry, I thought you meant his first
Starting point is 00:07:16 meeting with them. He had 17 carries for 65 yards. That game he got hurt in. Yes. That's the game where he hurt his ankle. I don't think he got hurt last week. No, no. It was the first game against the Rams. The last game, last week against the Rams. Great example. Mostert, yards per carry machine.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Like one of the most efficient running backs. 16 carries, 43 yards. He did score though. Yeah, no. That was the first game without Kaiser. True. Miles Sanders. I want to talk more about him because you guys are the highest on him.
Starting point is 00:07:43 And the score scares me a little bit here green bay is a lot better than the eagles it's a home game by the way this is the home team watch party presented by lois if you want to join us on twitch hold on what did you say back up again green bay is better than the eagles yeah i want to call call CBS Sportsnet and tell them to put that on a ticker. Adam Hazard. Packers. Better than Eagles. It's a home game for Green Bay. I don't know. Look, they've had six games
Starting point is 00:08:15 where they've won by 10 or more points. And even in all six of those games, a running back has had 100 yards or a touchdown. But only one running back had more than 57 rushing yards. And that was Montgomery last week. Because you just don't get a lot of carries in those games. You get the lead running backs had 12, 8, 16, 14, 12, and 11 carries in those games. So you see the point I'm getting at here. I see a path where there's not a lot of
Starting point is 00:08:42 carries for Sanders. Last week, Boston Scott was on the field late in the game when they were chasing points. There's been a horrible connection in the passing game between Wentz and Sanders. It's like, I want to believe in him because he's so good, and this defense is so bad against backs. 100 yards or a touchdown to a running back in every single game. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Tell me why you have faith. And I wish Heath were here because he actually has him 20th and non 20th and PPR 21st and non PPR. You guys have Sanders closer to 12th. I think first off with, with all these guys, Carson, um,
Starting point is 00:09:15 the four that you mentioned, uh, Sanders, Edward Solaire, Drake, and most are, you know, we're speaking to probably an audience that has maybe the chance to play davante booker
Starting point is 00:09:26 james robinson you know small small percentage of people i think that can bench these caliber of running backs you know antonio gibson obviously is in that mix of somebody who was picked up or drafted later um i think you see where i'm getting at benny snell you know just throw dobbins in there dobbins sure what you're saying many people are gonna start dobbins over those guys but sure i brought it up yesterday, Jamie. It was such a bad waiver wire week that this does feel like kind of a dance with who brung you kind of week. Yeah, I mean, you know, throw in Alvin Kamara, too. He's been bad.
Starting point is 00:09:55 You know, just these guys that you can't, you'd like to bench, but I don't know if you can bench. And so I think for me with Sanders is I'm banking on the matchup. I'm banking on what his workload was the previous two games prior to last week. The Eagles are obviously a mess. Doug Peterson, you know, talking about how the play calling is going and you know what he's doing in regards to that.
Starting point is 00:10:13 They are getting Zachary's back was a very good blocking tight end, you know, so that I think will help somewhat of the offensive line. We've talked about this with George Kittle, not being there for the 49ers. We've talked about this with what Broncos meant as a blocker over the years. Ertz is not at that level, but he's not far off. And so, you know, you add another piece to the run blocking that hopefully will be there for the Eagles.
Starting point is 00:10:34 But it's not going to be easy for Miles Sanders, but I'm going to bank on talent. I'm going to bank on how this defense has performed more times than not. And so that's why I'll still start Miles Sanders. And, you know, maybe I haven't ranked a little bit too high, but I think, you know, in this case, I hope talent wins out and that the Eagles do stay competitive.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Sanders is a big part of that. And, you know, he's excelled in some tough matchups already this season, you know, and I don't think this is a tough one, but tough situation. So hopefully he takes advantage of it. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:11:38 Eagles. We're having Jordy Nelson and Brian Westbrook join us. Yeah, it's going to be fun. B. West. Yeah, he used to do some fantasy stuff with the CBS crew back in the day. Yep. All right, news and notes. Josh Jacobs and Nelson Aguilar mispractice.
Starting point is 00:11:55 So we previewed this game yesterday. I just gave you those four running backs. Sanders, Mostert, Edward Ziller, Drake. If Jacobs is out, would you start Booker over any of them or all of them? Some of them. I haven't fully evaluated it yet, but as of now, not Sanders, but the rest. He'd be in that mix for sure. Chet's run defense actually hasn't been a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And I'm a little worried about the offensive line blocking for him for Vegas. So he may be right behind Drake, still a number two running back. Okay. Kyler Murray practiced in full, which is good. There was this quote from... And I would say this. If you're desperate for a receiver, I'll go pick up Henry Ruggs. Oh, yeah. Renfro or Ruggs?
Starting point is 00:12:46 Who would you guys turn to there? I'd probably still lean toward Renfro just because that seems to be a guy that Derek Carr trusts. And you saw last week, you know, seven targets. So maybe that's a sign of things coming. Just remember how he closed last season. He was a big part of what their offense was. But Henry Ruggs wasn't there.
Starting point is 00:13:02 And obviously that big play potential is more in Ruggs' favor than it is for Ag't there. And obviously that big play potential is, is more in rugs favor than it is for Aguilar. And we saw them try to get rugs going a little bit last week, indoors against the Falcons should have had touchdown. If he kept his feet in bed, three deep targets in the game, Aguilar had one that was called back by penalty.
Starting point is 00:13:18 Renfro had one. I think that they might try and make it an emphasis to get the ball, the rugs this week downfield against the jets. I would certainly think that would be the case because it an emphasis to get the ball to Ruggs this week downfield against the Jets. I would certainly think that would be the case because the Jets' secondary is so bad. But if they can't run the football, it would make sense for Renfro to pick up targets.
Starting point is 00:13:34 So I kind of like both of them as sneaky DFS plays. You could potentially stack up the Raiders against the Jets. Okay, yeah, I like it. I was just looking for what it's worth. Devontae Booker's roster percent is still 52%. Wow. So those of you in 10-team leagues, remember, I mean, people are out of it at this point. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:51 Those of you in 10-team leagues, go take a look. You know, I mean, I'll tell you just one thing. I did it in a 10-team league. I dropped Giovanni Bernard for Devontae Booker. You could drop your kicker for Devontae Booker, and if Jacobs is ruled out, you just drop somebody else to find another kicker. Oh, I hate that. That's so dirty, Dave. I'm not endorsing that.
Starting point is 00:14:13 There's dirtier things that can happen in fantasy football than somebody dropping their kicker. They still got to drop somebody else. I hate what you're doing. I think it's dirty. I don't like it. Benny Snell is also only 55%. Do it if you don't want to cut anybody else on your team until Sunday.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yeah, Benny Snell is 55%. So, yeah, it is that time of year. Earlier in the year, Booker and Snell would be rostered in a lot more leagues. All right, more news, guys. Kyler Murray practicing full. DeAndre Swift, he didn't have the same energy level, according to Adrian Peterson. The concussion really affected him.
Starting point is 00:14:40 He's cleared the protocol. We're hoping he plays. If he does play, we're going to preview this game later, but real quick on Swift, if he does play, are you going to feel like he's, you know, is he a confident start for you? If he gets into full practice on Friday, then I think you have to buy into him being okay. He's listed on
Starting point is 00:14:56 the injury report with an illness, non-COVID related, so, you know, to the symptoms maybe that they were talking about, who knows what maybe he's dealing with, but if he's out there, you got to trust it. You know, maybe not a number one running back. I haven't ranked seventh right now, you know, so maybe not to that level, but again, probably better standing than these other guys,
Starting point is 00:15:15 especially if Akeem Hicks who's mispracticed for the bears is out that run defense is not the same without him there. I wonder if APS comments were misconstrued. Like he said, he had that low energy level and wasn't feeling right. And I wonder if people took that. I took it as, uh-oh, it's a side effect of the concussion. That he's just not feeling so good. But then he cleared the concussion protocol, like we said.
Starting point is 00:15:33 So I am optimistic if he's there on Sunday. And Akeem Hicks is not. That he can have a very good game. Hicks, though, was limited in practice on Thursday. So he came back. He missed practice Wednesday, but he did practice on Thursday. So that was happy. Hicks, though, was limited in practice on Thursday, so he came back. He missed practice Wednesday, but he did practice on Thursday. So that was happy for Hicks, disappointed for
Starting point is 00:15:50 Swift. I'm still going to start with Swift, even if Hicks is there. I just might not be bullish on him. Right. Chris Carson was limited in practice. Carlos Hyde has not been practicing. So we will talk about that game. Daniel Jones missed practice. We don't expect him. Julio Jones mispracticed.
Starting point is 00:16:06 There's only been, I got the exact stat later, but there's only been one wide receiver this year who's had seven or more targets against the Saints and not had a good game, or not had like 73 yards or a touchdown, and that was Russell Gage. But he actually did end up having, I think, 12 PPR fantasy points because he had a ton of targets.
Starting point is 00:16:25 But yeah, so keep that in mind if you're in a deep league. He could be okay because Julio Jones mispracticed and Zaccheaus is on IR. A.J. Brown mispracticed with a hip injury. Real quick, are we worried about A.J. Brown's status? Not yet. He mispracticed on Friday, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Adam Humphreys returned to practice. That might be a replacement. Has he cleared the protocol yet though not sure yeah i don't know i don't think he has okay who is wait a minute he hasn't which protocol you're talking about concussion protocol okay yeah okay i don't know if he has or not covet obviously who's playing for miami Quarterback and running back. Quarterback? Yeah. So Tua says he's feeling fine.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Flores said he's going to take it to Sunday to make the decision on Tua's health. They say if Tua's healthy, he's going to play. So, you know, if I'm a Ryan Fitzpatrick fantasy manager and that's the guy I'm counting on, I'd like to have Mitchell Trubisky as a backup just in case. Yep. There's a site that I look at for sports betting information, and they've got Tago Vailoa as the starter,
Starting point is 00:17:30 listed as the starter. So I think the consensus from the oddsmakers is that Tago Vailoa is going to play. Okay, and how about the running backs for the Dolphins? You know, again, they don't have to list Miles Gaskin on the injury report because he's still on IR. So it's a little frustrating to know exactly what the status is.
Starting point is 00:17:49 And then yesterday they practiced in the bubble, so nobody was allowed to view their practice. So as of Wednesday, he was practicing on a limited basis, wearing a sleeve on his knee. They can activate him at any time. You don't know if they're going to save him potentially for next week's game
Starting point is 00:18:02 when they have the Chiefs. But Ahmed also practicing on a limited basis. So there were some leagues where Ahmed was dropped. I think you should go check to see if he's available. DeAndre Washington, I believe, still not practicing for the last two days. So if both guys are out in terms of Gaskin and Ahmed, and Washington doesn't play, then it's the Matt Breida show again. So take a look at Matt Breida just in case if you're in a deeper league.
Starting point is 00:18:23 So it's a little bit of a mess right now. For me at least, if Gaskin plays, I'm going to start him. If Gaskin's out and Ahmed plays, I'm going to start Ahmed. If those guys are all out, then Matt Brita, I think, is the one you want to look at. Okay. Who is playing for Baltimore, Dave? Well, they're not counting on Lamar Jackson until he's cleared to practice.
Starting point is 00:18:43 So once that happens, once he's off the COVID list, and they've got three days to do that, they're not counting on Lamar Jackson until he's cleared to practice. So once that happens, once he's off the COVID list, and they've got three days to do that, they're not counting on him. But I think there's a pretty decent chance that he makes it back. Dobbins has been cleared already. Mark Ingram has been cleared already. I don't know the status of Mark Andrews, but I would assume he's almost in the same boat as Lamar Jackson. Those guys have been cleared from an IR standpoint, though.
Starting point is 00:19:03 They're still on IR. So for those of you stashed on the COVID list, you can still stash them on IR. Okay, perfect. And then on defense, Brandon Williams is a candidate. He's already been taken off the COVID list, but he's got an injury that he's dealing with. And Judon and Calais Campbell are still,
Starting point is 00:19:20 I believe they're both still on the COVID list. They are both still on the COVID list. Okay. All right. That game against Dallas is on the still on the COVID list. They are both still on the COVID list. Okay. All right. That game against Dallas is on the slate on today's show. Josh Gordon for the Seahawks. He will be eligible to play in Week 16 and 17. It will be nice to see him back.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Jonu Smith mispracticed. That's A.J. Brown and Jonu Smith. So if you're a Ryan Tannehill fantasy manager, you might want to make alternate plans here. And Anthony Ferkser, I guess, could be a deep league option. Or Jeff Swaim. They got Swaim involved in the passing game last week. Deebo Samuel mispracticed.
Starting point is 00:19:51 It was called precautionary. Clyde Edwards-Elair mispracticed with an illness. Zach Ertz was limited in practice. We are ranking him, expecting him to play. Irv Smith mispracticed. Akeem Hicks limited. Fletcher Cox mispracticed. And that would be good news for Aaron Jones, who's been struggling
Starting point is 00:20:05 a little bit lately. All right. What's up? Missed practice? Never mind, Jamie. I said it once. That's all you're getting. Phillip Lindsey was limited in practice. That's potentially bad news for Melvin Gordon, if you were counting on Melvin Gordon this week.
Starting point is 00:20:21 If Lindsey plays, Gordon's still in the number two running back mix. But if Lindsey's out, Melvin Gordon can be an absolute star just basedvin Gordon this week. If Lindsey plays, Gordon's still in the number two running back mix. But if Lindsey's out, Melvin Gordon can be an absolute star just based on what he's done. He's had, I think, five games with 15 or more total touches. And in all five of those, I think he scored 12 or more PPR points. Yeah, all right. That's good stuff. But so is Express. Oh, my gosh. This sponsorship has been tremendous,
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Starting point is 00:22:14 for the NFC East. They are going to get their butts kicked. The NFC East teams are playing Pittsburgh, Green Bay, Baltimore, and Seattle. Good luck to all of you. Let's do Beat the Waiver Wire. There's Cam Akers, 68% rostered.
Starting point is 00:22:28 Mentioned Benny Snell. Might want to just get him. Devante Booker. You never know. Cam Akers, maybe he emerges. Some DSTs. Carolina gets Denver. You got the Dallas-Cincinnati game. I don't know if you want to trust the DST. That game has to
Starting point is 00:22:43 be played, really. Eddie Dalton Bowl. Oh, yeah. Tennessee is at Jacksonville. Arizona's at the Giants next week. Green Bay is at Detroit. San Francisco's against Washington. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:00 I love the way the Niners' defense played last week. They're getting healthier, and Kinlaw is starting to make some big plays. They could end up finishing very strong this year. I didn't even check their roster percentage. Let's see what we got. They are... I think they're pretty high.
Starting point is 00:23:14 51%, so you can go get them. Phillip Rivers at Las Vegas could work for you. Green Bay's playing Detroit, so maybe Alon Lazard or MVS. Not a bad idea to just stash Kiki Cutt if you can see what happens this week or coulter right is that who you've been touting coulter and keeper leagues for sure and that's basically if charke and conley remain out then colin johnson absolutely is on that list. And San Francisco running back situation? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:46 I mean, Jeff Wilson got a ton of work. Tevin Coleman's back. My guess is if those guys are relevant, that's a bad thing because most of it's not going away. Right. Let's do the start-o-meter here. For the last three games, we're going to preview Giants and Seahawks.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Any Giants that you're confidently starting? Evan Ingram just because of his position. And Wayne Gallman just by default is a top 24 running back. Yeah, I don't love Wayne Gallman this week because of the quarterback situation, and he's going to need to score, which is obviously something he's done. But I think the touchdown streak ends this week,
Starting point is 00:24:18 and the production goes south as well. Are you starting him or Duke Johnson? I would start Duke and PPR. Okay. We, we, we disagree on that one, but I'm just not a Duke Johnson fan,
Starting point is 00:24:31 I guess, but I, I, they're both low end. Number two, running backs. I don't feel great about Wayne Goldman either. You're going to start Zach Ertz,
Starting point is 00:24:38 Kyle Rudolph, or Evan Ingram. Ingram. Uh, Ingram. Okay. How about for Seattle? You know, I mean, the Giants have had a pretty solid defense.
Starting point is 00:24:52 I do think they might get exposed this week because this is a much tougher matchup than what they normally get. But they did all right against Pittsburgh. They held Pittsburgh under their season scoring average. They held Tampa Bay under their season scoring average. So they did a respectable job against those two teams. Did really well against the Rams. Yeah, it's going to be a tough spot.
Starting point is 00:25:10 But anyway, like Tyler Lockett, Russell Wilson, everybody starting Metcalf. Lockett and Wilson, how confident are you in them? Wilson's still very confident. I'm not going to worry about him. And Lockett is still a number two wide receiver. It's, you know, there's always the opportunity for him to have a breakout play, breakout game.
Starting point is 00:25:30 You know, so I'm not going to get cute with Tyler Lockett, but he's obviously frustrating. And then the running backs are, you know, it's kind of, they're tied to each other to a certain extent. If Carlos Hyde is out, then Chris Carson hopefully will be a monster. I don't like the fact that Carson's still limited in practice you know so clearly he's not 100 he's dealing with that foot injury uh he had the wrong the the strong touchdown run um last week which was great and looked like Chris Carson but for whatever reason Seattle is probably being a little
Starting point is 00:26:00 cautious with him as they're looking ahead to the playoffs knowing that he's you know a little cautious with him as they're looking ahead to the playoffs, knowing that he's, you know, a little injury prone. So I think for Carson, if Hyde is out, then he's easy to say he's got top 10 potential. If Hyde does play, then, you know, you got to, I think, look at Carson more as a strong number two running back. I feel the exact same way about Tyler Lockett as I do Wayne Goldman, someone that I'm totally fine starting, but I don't have a ton of confidence that they're going to come through for a big game, especially in PPR.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I would take the 49ers receivers ahead of Lockett this week. There are 30 wide receivers that are currently averaging 14 or more PPR fantasy points. So I use that as a barometer for like, oh, OK, you could start that guy. And only once this year have multiple wide receivers scored 14 PPR fantasy points or more against the Giants. And that was, of course, the Washington football team with McLaurin and Cam Sims. All right. Next game is the Dallas Baltimore game. Yeah, this is the toughest game to preview because Baltimore is I don't know who's we don't know who's playing for them. But who are you confidently starting in this game?
Starting point is 00:27:06 J.K. Dobbins, for sure. I think last week proved that Gus Edwards isn't even trusted as the lead back for them. He didn't get a ton of carries. And I know it was Pittsburgh, and then the defense showed up as opposed to the last time those two teams met. But I bet they can't wait to get J.K. Dobbins back on the field.
Starting point is 00:27:23 And I bet the Cowboys are not going to be pleased one bit with him being back on the field. So I would imagine that his workload would be very strong, and he's got a chance to give you a lot of fantasy points this week, well over 12 in PPR leagues, for example. I'd be starting Dobbins as a low-end number two running back. I think they're still, you know, look, you've got to throw out last week's game. They didn't have their quarterback.
Starting point is 00:27:44 They didn't have their starting center their offensive line was a disaster everything was a mess for the ravens their tight end was out you know it was just everything was was a total disaster and then you know facing pittsburgh so um i hope it's what we saw from dobbins in his previous game when he had 17 total touches but you have edward still there you have obviously mark ingram is going to come back as well so is dobbins going to just step into the same thing like jonathan taylor you know are they both going to step into what their roles were in the last time we saw them or is it going to be more of what the season has been mostly for dobbins obviously so i'm hopeful but confident no
Starting point is 00:28:19 okay yeah dave is the high guy on dobbbins this week for sure. Dobbins or Mostert? Dobbins. Dobbins or Taylor? Taylor. Dobbins. All right. It is easy. You see the difference there. If Dobbins does get like 15 carries,
Starting point is 00:28:34 he's probably going to have a huge game because the Cowboys suck. Yeah, it's a big if though. I mean, we just haven't seen that from them. And then in terms of the Cowboys, okay, Marquise Brown, if he's the only guy, if Andrews is out and Snead is out, you got to at least think about Marquise Brown. It's a cowboy. If he's the only guy, if Andrews is out and, and Snead is out, you got to at least think about Marquise Brown.
Starting point is 00:28:49 Absolutely. And what about Cooper and Zeke? I, I'm okay with Cooper as a number two receiver and PPR Zeke. I've, I've, I can't remember the last time I've ranked him this low, maybe in like a week 17,
Starting point is 00:29:03 where I wasn't sure if he was even going to play something like that. I'm worried that he may not get the type of workload that he's been getting because he's, he's fumbled the ball away as many times as he's rushed for a touchdown this year. Wow. Five of each.
Starting point is 00:29:17 It's rough. I, I I'm, I'm nervous that Pollard could end up taking some work away from him and the offensive lines and absolute nightmare. Yeah, Dobbins should be better than Zeke. So I have them like Dobbins 22 and Zeke 24. Yeah, Heath has Zeke 9.
Starting point is 00:29:33 So you guys are much lower on Ezekiel Elliott. And Cooper is a number two or number three. Like San Francisco wide receivers or Cooper? San Francisco wide receivers. All right. Jamie says Cooper. Dave says you can Debo. Jimmy Smith left that game
Starting point is 00:29:47 last week. I don't know how healthy he'll be. Marcus Peters hasn't been playing well the last couple weeks. Humphrey's going to make things tough on these guys, but he's all by himself at this point, potentially, in terms of how he's playing. Especially if Judon's not there. Calais Campbell's not there. We'll see how this defense looks.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I still think Cooper has you know, has proven himself to be heavily targeted. And he's the in my opinion, safest wide receiver in this game. Jacksonville, Minnesota. I agree with that. Yeah, safest receiver in the game for sure. Jacksonville, Minnesota. Easy start Robinson
Starting point is 00:30:19 and all the Vikings basically. Pretty much. Yep. I kind of like Tyler Eifert. He should have had two touchdowns last week. He did have one. It was actually a great throw from Mike Lennon for the first touchdown. He's had at least four targets in
Starting point is 00:30:36 each, I think it was past six games. He's been on fire in that regard. He's been getting the work. The Vikings have allowed 11 or more PPR points to a tight end in six of seven games where a tight end's had four or more targets. Oh, four or more. Okay. Both tight ends are facing teams that
Starting point is 00:30:52 give up points without a lot of targets to tight ends. That's the Jacksonville. You get three targets, score touchdown. It happens a lot against Jacksonville. Who's the best tight end in this game then, Rudolph or Eifert? Oh, it's Rudolph. Okay. All right. Absolutely. Rams at Card the best tight end in this game then, Rudolph or Eifert? Oh, it's Rudolph. Okay, all right. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:31:07 Rams at Cardinals. That's our first game. It's a lot here. Stat of the game number one. Robert Woods has five games this year with fewer than 40 yards. Cooper Cup has five games with 50 or fewer yards. So a little bit worse for Woods than Cup. Woods is top 12 in both formats.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Cup is top 26 in both formats. But, you know, they're frustrating. They're annoying. I imagine you're just starting them, though. They're better on the road than they are at home. You know, I don't really buy that because Goff's thing for most of his career was he was better at home.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Right. And this year, all of a sudden he's better on the road. Oh, I don't know about him necessarily being better on the road. I mean, his, some of his worst games have come on the road,
Starting point is 00:31:52 but those guys have performed well on the road. I think, I think some of his bet, you know, let me tell you something. Let me, let me tell you something about Jared. Oh boy.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I tried. This is what I, this is what I try to do. I try to find why you know we'll tell you the what in terms of rankings I'm trying to help
Starting point is 00:32:09 with the why I can't find a why for Jared Goff you know for example like when when is he going to have a good game
Starting point is 00:32:17 is you know the MO on him when he's under pressure he stinks but three of his four best games have come against teams that are top 10 in pressure rate.
Starting point is 00:32:27 Is it score? Sometimes when he's been good, they've given up a lot of points and he's had to throw. Is it lack of running game? Sometimes when he's been good, they've run the ball well and sometimes they haven't. There is no consistency. There is no predictability. I cannot stand Jared Goff. He is impossible to evaluate.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Okay. He's been very turnover prone, you know, multiple turnovers the last several weeks as well. He's just not playing very consistent football, you know, especially fantasy wise, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:53 like the game against Seattle, he played really well. He threw for over 300 yards, but they ran three touchdowns in, you know, so that hurt his production that game. Then he comes back the following week and he has three touchdowns, but he had two interceptions on top of it. So
Starting point is 00:33:05 he's just not consistent at this point. And so I think just looking at it, anytime he has a somewhat difficult matchup, you got to avoid it. If he has a favorable matchup, you could somewhat buy into it. But he's in that gray area of if you don't have to start him, don't start him. Okay, but yeah, I won't spend much time on golf because we have more
Starting point is 00:33:23 important players to think about. But he has four games this year with 28 to 30 fantasy points and six points for passing touchdown leagues. Four huge games. And now I'm checking. All of them were on the road. At Philadelphia, at Buffalo, at Washington, at Tampa Bay. And he is at Arizona. Right, he also has one of his worst games on the road,
Starting point is 00:33:39 which is at Miami. I know, but he hasn't had one good game at home and he's had four great games on the road. All right, so that's that. So let's stick with the Rams here. We're not starting golf. The running backs, is Akers just a wait-and-see or as a flyer or what? He's far more of a wait-and-see than a guy that you should confidently start.
Starting point is 00:34:01 You can't have confidence in starting him, but he looked a lot better than Daryl Henderson last week. I know the stats obviously say that, but if you go back and you watch, Henderson looks like he's regressed. It looks like he's bumping back into the butts of his offensive lineman. He's running to contact. Doesn't seem to have very good vision.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Akers has better vision. I love the physicality on the two runs after the 61-yard run that he had. That's what set them up in the red zone. And then he scored two plays later. I think that he, he he's looking more and more like the guy that we saw at Florida state. I think that the last week's game was a perfect example and he got all of his work in the second half and Henderson played the first half.
Starting point is 00:34:40 And I think he played like six snaps in the second half. Like they just got away from Daryl Henderson last week, and Akers got on the field. So I can't help but believe that Akers will keep it going and have the opportunity this week. Now, he's not going to play a lot of third downs because that's Malcolm Brown, but maybe he's their guy in the red zone. He's had two red zone touchdowns each of the past two games,
Starting point is 00:35:00 and he scored the goal line jobber last week. That wasn't Malcolm Brown in there. It was him okay so i'm i'm absolutely stashing him i'm trying to get him in as many leagues as i can and i would start him if i was really desperate at running back this week okay would you start frank gore or cam acres i would rather start gore because i love his matchup and i love the opportunities he's been getting all right uh wide and Kup, number two guys? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:35:27 Okay. We'll compare them with some others as we go through the show. Well, I'll do it right now. Would you start David Montgomery or one of those Rams receivers? Montgomery. Okay. Would you start Ezekiel Elliott or a Rams receiver? Rams receiver.
Starting point is 00:35:43 Yep. I'm assuming we're not starting a Rams tight end. No. Okay. Let's talk about Kyler Murray, guys. Yes, the story I sent, a story from ESPN.com, really good breakdown. It was like, have teams figured out Kyler Murray?
Starting point is 00:35:57 So one thing they're doing is they're forcing him to hand the ball off on the read options, on the zone reads. And another thing they're doing is blitzing the hell out of him to get the ball out of his hand quickly. Four teams, four straight teams, I believe, have blitzed like 35% or more of his dropbacks. And the Rams don't blitz a lot,
Starting point is 00:36:19 but neither did the Patriots, and they blitz a ton against Kyler Murray. So that's helping, that's working. How do you feel about him and who are some guys that you might start over him this week that ordinarily you would not? The only one would be Herbert for me, but I could see Tannehill or maybe Cousins
Starting point is 00:36:33 or maybe Fitzpatrick, you know, if you want to go that route. But, you know, the last thing you want to do with a guy like Kyler is bench him and watch him go off because he's that type of player. So I would imagine Cliff Kingsbury is going back to the drawing board a little bit and trying to be more creative and how he's getting Kyler opportunities maybe some more design runs so that's the key if he's running he's going to be a great fantasy quarterback if he's not running like we've seen the last two weeks then you're going to be
Starting point is 00:36:54 disappointed so if you want to trust some of these other guys go ahead I certainly get it but I'm gonna stick with Kyler I'm gonna play the hot hand not only with Herbert but also Kirk Cousins ahead of Kyler Murray because I'm a little worried about what we've seen the last couple of weeks. Really, my eyes opened when he hurt his shoulder, that he wasn't throwing downfield much. He had five deep pass attempts last week against the Patriots, only one of them completed, and now he's taking on the Rams, and we know what this defense is capable of doing to quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:37:23 So I'm nervous about using Kyler. I've kind of nervous about having them as a top 10 quarterback this week, but I can't find a lot of other quarterbacks that I would confidently start ahead of him. The Rams give up the fewest points, the quarterbacks, the fewest yards per attempt. They've held Dak Prescott to 19 points,
Starting point is 00:37:40 Russell Wilson to nine points, Tom Brady to 16 points. Two quarterbacks have had good games. Josh Allen scored 38 points and Jimmy Garoppolo scored 28 points. Russell Wilson to 9 points. Tom Brady to 16 points. Two quarterbacks have had good games. Josh Allen scored 38 points. And Jimmy Garoppolo scored 28 points. But for the most part, I mean, this is on paper the worst matchup. They give up the fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:37:56 We talked about Kenyon Drake. He needs to score. He's a number two running back. Chase Edmonds is a sit, right? Yeah. Well, at best, he's a low-end number three running back in PPR. And then DeAndre Hopkins. You know, should this be
Starting point is 00:38:09 an automatic here? Because he's, you know, he's had, like I said, you take away the Hail Mary catch. He's been terrible.
Starting point is 00:38:16 It's four straight games without a touchdown if you take away that catch. And in those four games, 30 yards, 85, 51, and 55.
Starting point is 00:38:24 So, is he an automatic start? He's not. He's outside of the top 12, but still in the top 20. I think that he can still find a way to get a lot of targets and catches. It depends on what the Rams do. If they stick Jalen Ramsey on him, will Kyler Murray be confident enough to throw him 10 passes over the course of the game?
Starting point is 00:38:43 We've seen quarterbacks shy away from that matchup. And is he going to score? He hasn't really done a lot of that lately, except for the Hail Mary. So I'm more nervous about him in non-PPR than I am in full PPR. But there's certainly a lot of evidence over the last month that really you can't love what you're getting out of DeAndre Hopkins. Again, we can sit here and say, so we're blue in the face, getting out of DeAndre Hopkins. Again, we could sit here and say, until we're blue in the face, don't start DeAndre Hopkins.
Starting point is 00:39:08 His start percentage is 98%. Yeah, I know. But still, like... He's not a DFS play. He's not somebody that you... It's Alvin Kamara. It's Kyler Murray. It's DeAndre Hopkins.
Starting point is 00:39:20 It's Tyler Lockett. It's these players who you've drafted to be starters that there's a small percentage of people that have options that they feel more comfortable with or willing to bench these guys for and so um you just gotta either a take your lumps and stick with the guy who got you here or b be creative with your line like don't start rashad perryman over deandre hopkins like you know that don't start nelson nagilar over DeAndre Hopkins. What? No? Well, okay, but no. What about the running backs?
Starting point is 00:39:48 What about David Montgomery? What about DeAndre Swift? Sure, if you have two great receivers and you have to put your third great receiver in a flex typically, yes. In 10-team leagues, can you get away from DeAndre Hopkins? Probably so. But in 12-team leagues or larger, it's hard to do that.
Starting point is 00:40:04 That's just the nature of what we do three receivers that you might have drafted significantly later than hopkins devante parker deontay johnson justin jefferson yeah all better i like them better i don't know if i'll feel that way about parker if two is under center but like those those are three and i think brandon cooks could be a fourth outside of that i don't think there's a lot of guys that you can look at and say, oh yeah, gotta start him ahead. There's a small percentage of people that can bench DeAndre Hopkins. I wish we could have better conversations about this because we could spend a lot of time about not just Hopkins,
Starting point is 00:40:38 but all these guys. All these guys that have been struggling or in some crappy situations. But the last thing you want to see is DeAndre Hopkins catch a Hail Mary and you go, why the hell did I bench DeAndre Hopkins? Yeah, well, if he catches a Hail Mary. Yeah, you might not say that, but if he catches two touchdowns, then obviously you would. I think it's a lot easier to get away from Christian Kirk, for example.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Yeah, Kirk is a sit, right? Yeah. Kirk is an easy sit, yeah. Alright, and the Rams DST is 7th for Jamie, 4th for Dave, 8th for Heath. And that's the end of that chapter. Philadelphia at Green Bay. Thank you, Dave. I already gave a stat of the game here.
Starting point is 00:41:13 The Green Bays won six games by double digits and running backs, lead running backs, have had 12, 8, 16, 14, 12, and 11 carries. It's a scary number there for Sanders, and only one running back said more than 57 rushing yards in those games. But you guys talked about it. You're confident in him.
Starting point is 00:41:30 This is one of the best matchups you can get. You guys are sitting Carson Wentz. He's outside the top 20. You're starting Miles Sanders. I'm going to assume you are not sitting any Philadelphia wide receivers. I'm not starting. Correct.
Starting point is 00:41:42 You are not starting any Philadelphia wide receivers. Correct. If you are playing me, I hope you are starting Philadelphia wide receivers. starting. Correct. You are not starting any Philadelphia wide receivers. If you are playing me, I hope you are starting Philadelphia wide receivers. Correct. Correct. All right. So let's assume Zach Ertz plays.
Starting point is 00:41:54 Talk to me about Goddard and Ertz. And, you know, look, the Packers, they give up the ninth fewest points to tight ends, but they usually don't do that well against the good ones. They're probably not that good against tight ends. So Goddard and Ertz, Jamie, what do you think? I'm still starting Goddard for one more week just to see what happens. We've seen enough of a pattern, even from this team in particular. When a guy comes back off of injury, there's a little bit of a lull
Starting point is 00:42:17 in how he shakes off the rust. And so Ertz hopefully will get, for those of you starting him, five to seven targets. I hope that's the case for him, but I don't think they're going to go away from Dallas Goddard because a, he's their future. I don't think Zachary is coming back next year and he's been playing so well the last couple of weeks. I mean, you see the, what Carson Wentz is doing, even when he's making poor decisions,
Starting point is 00:42:38 he's doing it because he's looking for Dallas Goddard. And so I'll still stick with him for this week as a top five tight end. But next week will be the interesting one. If Ertz comes off this game with a strong performance. So Ertz is a low-end starter at best. Goddard's still a must play. And hopefully he still continues to get six plus targets and 70 plus yards with a chance to score. Okay. And would you start Goddard or Hawkinson?
Starting point is 00:43:04 That's the one switch I made since Ertz came back. I originally had Goddard ranked ahead of Hawkinson. I put Hawkinson ahead of Goddard or Hawkinson? That's the one switch I made since Ertz came back was I originally had Goddard ranked ahead of Hawkinson and put Hawkinson ahead of Goddard. Bears have been terrible against tight ends. Yeah, that's Hawkinson's matchup. Would you start Ertz or Rudolph? Ertz. I'm sorry, Rudolph.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Excuse me. I was thinking Goddard for a second. We're assuming Irv Smith is going to be out, right? So as long as that's the case, Rudolph. Right. It's continued on Ertz. Okay. And I brought this up on Twitch yesterday We're assuming Irv Smith is going to be out, right? So as long as that's the case, Rudolph is the start. Okay. And I brought this up on Twitch yesterday for anyone who was watching.
Starting point is 00:43:31 The Rudolph thing started to transition to a different game. Is Irv Smith really what matters here, or is Thielen what matters? Because Thielen was out last week, obviously, and he's back. And Thielen gets basically all of their red zone and green zone targets targets he's got eight more red zone targets than anyone else on the team so I don't know I don't want to fall into a trap with I love the matchup though for Rudolph the trap it's a trap a Star Wars I think the thing with Rudolph with her Smith is the two games that Irv Smith has missed one of them was dealing was out.
Starting point is 00:44:08 But in both those games, Rudolph has four catches for 63 yards. He fumbled in one, you know, so take that into account. It was against the bears. The first meeting for those two teams. But it's not just that it's the fact that they're playing the Jaguars. They stink, you know? So if they were playing a tougher competition, if he was playing facing tougher competition, then okay. Maybe you start Rudolph,
Starting point is 00:44:24 but it's the matchup on top of the fact that he's got five-plus targets in those two games that Irv Smith has been out, and I think that's what he'll be. I think he's got a chance to score. So is Rudolph the same slam dunk that he was when we talked about this on Tuesday when Adam Thielen was still on the cover list? No, by no means. But now, still, when you look at the tight end landscape,
Starting point is 00:44:43 he's still a potential starter. It just depends on what you're looking for for your team. Okay, Aaron Rodgers is a top four quarterback. Start him up. And Aaron Jones. So how are you guys feeling about him right now? He's had four disappointing games in a row since coming back from injury.
Starting point is 00:44:59 In those games, he's averaged 3.9, 3.5, 4.1 yards per carry, and then 5.3 last week against the Bears when they didn't have their best run stuffer. And the Eagles have a terrific run defense, one of the best in football. They do struggle. Sorry, they're good in the passing game, too. Go ahead, Dave.
Starting point is 00:45:17 There's only been three games this year where a running back hasn't scored on Philadelphia. They give up those shots. I'm hoping that that's Aaron Jones. I'm hoping that he finds the end zone. He's been, he's been all right. We're looking for a big game from him,
Starting point is 00:45:32 but it does feel like Aaron Rogers knows a, that his team is in contention for the number one seed in the NFC to he's in contention for the MVP. And I would, I would imagine that they're going to continue to lean on Aaron Rodgers as the offensive focal point. Remember, last year wasn't a lot of Rodgers. It was a lot of the run game.
Starting point is 00:45:53 They seem to go with what's working. And right now, Aaron Rodgers is working. So I think you start Aaron Jones as a number one running back just because it's Philadelphia, and they do allow a slew of touchdowns. But he hasn't been great. It's true. Okay, if we're looking at the other Packers in this game, Jamal Williams, Alan Lazard, Marquez Valdez-Scantling,
Starting point is 00:46:16 we'll do Tunyon separately. Who do you think is a worthwhile flex out of the Williams, Lazard, MVS? Okay. I kind of like them both as low-end flexes, but I think one is safe and one is boom or bust. Who? Both receivers? Lazard is the safe one.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Are you talking about Jamal Williams or MVS? I'm talking about MVS and I'm talking about Lazard. Yeah, I knew Lazard. All right. Right. Lazard is safe. Might be able to get you 10 or 11 ppr points about a scaling will either get you all of the ppr points or none of the ppr points and i'm not a believer in the philadelphia secondary
Starting point is 00:46:56 because he scored the touchdown early in the game then he got banged up and the score was just completely out of whack they didn't so he didn't need to be out there. Right. So these played now five games this season. He's got 12 or more PPR points in three of them. And one of those was the first game back, you know, after the long layoff. So factor that into the equation. I think this is a good matchup for him.
Starting point is 00:47:16 I think they're going to still be able to throw Dave's right. They're trying to get Aaron Rogers, the MVP. I think Lazard is going to have another opportunity to score in this matchup. So he's a borderline starter for me. All right. And Robert Tunyon is top 10 for you guys.
Starting point is 00:47:27 He's behind Kyle Rudolph and Eric Ebron, but he's ahead of Zach Ertz. You can start him. And yeah, he's, he's been playing pretty well lately. He's been playing well. The matchup isn't great.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Eagles have only allowed one touchdown to a tight end in their last seven games. So why are you starting as a, because he's getting targets and he's, he's got an opportunity to get you some numbers. Packers DST is top six. And we'll see. They have a terrible pass rush, but let's see what happens here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I don't know if that's really going to matter. Right. Because that offensive line for Philly. It looked better last week. Packers pass rush looked better last week. They moved some things around. They were moving to Darius Smith inside. Preston Smith was moving around as well.
Starting point is 00:48:10 Yeah. When those guys get going, they're going to be a problem for Carson Wentz. But I think most people are a problem for Carson Wentz this week. Carson Wentz is a problem for Carson Wentz. Buffalo at San Francisco on Monday. Josh Allen. All right.
Starting point is 00:48:23 We talked about Kyler Murray a little earlier. We talked about Russell Wilson. How confident are you in Josh Allen. All right. We talked about Kyler Murray a little earlier. We talked about Russell Wilson. How confident are you in Josh Allen? Still a top 10 quarterback and still potential top five. Not potential. I mean, you guys have him
Starting point is 00:48:36 ranked in the top five. Well, I mean, how he'll finish. Yeah, but like your ranking suggests quite confident. Fourth for both of you. Third for Heath. Well, I mean, think about some of the quarterbacks we've talked about.
Starting point is 00:48:47 You know what I mean? It's like I'm not benching Josh Allen for Kirk Cousins. I'm not benching him for Ryan Tannehill. I'm not benching him for Ryan Fitzpatrick. You know, there's still always the upside of him because of his running. And, you know, he hasn't been great without John Brown. We know that. We've talked about that quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:49:00 But I still think this is, while San Francisco's defense has gotten better, they had two weeks to prepare for their matchup last week. We'll see how they do coming back this week. They're, you know, going through their displacement. The bills were always going on the road, just matter where their plane lands now.
Starting point is 00:49:13 So, you know, you hear Kyle Shanahan talking about the psyche of the team. I hope things are fine for them, but I still think this is a matchup that you're not benching Josh Allen for, you know, this is a very interesting two week stretch for people that are going to be playing the first round of the playoffs because Josh Allen goes San Francisco, Pittsburgh back to back. And so if he comes out of this game with a strong performance, you're going to feel great about it. If he comes out of this is still a winnable enough performance
Starting point is 00:49:46 matchup for Josh Allen to have a good performance that you're going to still keep him in your starting line. Okay. And I'll make you even more encouraged about Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:49:55 Last week, he only threw 24 times and the Bills had a surprisingly good running game last week. They ran very effectively against the Chargers. The 49ers have a very good run defense,
Starting point is 00:50:05 so you wouldn't expect that. And you'd expect more than 24 pass attempts, so you see a hope for it. And you look at the must-start quarterbacks against San Francisco. Kyler Murray, 28 points. Fitzpatrick, 33. Russell Wilson, 36.
Starting point is 00:50:20 Aaron Rodgers, 36. They've been crappy against the best quarterbacks. I was with Fitzpatrick in that category. Yeah, well, I was've been crappy against the best quarterbacks. I was just scanning and I saw the points. The must-start quarterbacks have torched San Francisco. But were they the same defense for those matchups as they are now? They're still missing so many guys.
Starting point is 00:50:38 The Miami game, I think, wasn't Bosa still healthy? Maybe. No, he got hurt in the Jets game. Did he? Okay, that's what it was it was close to that but not having him has obviously hurt them but getting Richard Sherman back is gonna help and I just think overall they're starting to mesh that's what I saw last week well but to the weeks the two weeks before that it was the Packers of the Seahawks and they got destroyed yeah but Sherman didn't play in those games I think the one thing about it is, again, they had two weeks to prepare for a must-win game
Starting point is 00:51:08 against a division opponent. And so now they got to go with the whole no playing in San Francisco. They're starting their stretch run of playing in Arizona. I mean, football players are resilient. I don't think that really matters much. But again, it's just something to factor in when you start to look at the whole picture of all this.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Their defense is good. It's a very good defense. But you made the point, Adam, that it's their run defense. Their run defense is key. And will they make the Bills one dimensional enough that things struggle, break down for Josh Allen? The flip side of that is the Bills have been so one dimensional all season. They're used to playing that way.
Starting point is 00:51:40 So I think you're still going to start Josh Allen. Hopefully he runs enough. He tends to step up in big spots. You know, we've seen him in some primetime games over the last couple of seasons where he's played big. So I'm going to buy into Josh Allen still as a good quarterback. Okay. What does that mean for the rest of the bills? Is Stefan Diggs the only guy you're confident in? I'll go back to Beasley as number three receiver. Not confidently, but I'll still go back to him. You know, I mean, I think again, when they're throwing a lot without John Brown there, he's been great.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I like Gabriel Davis in DFS. He'll be somebody in my showdown lineup. Okay. And let's do some Cole Beasley's. Cole Beasley or Brashad Perryman? Beasley and PPR. I have Perryman higher. Cole Beasley or Michael Pittman? Beasley and PPR. I have Paramon. Cole Beasley or Michael Pittman.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Beasley and PPR. I have Pittman higher. Debo. Oh, Debo for sure. Ayuk. Ayuk for sure. Well,
Starting point is 00:52:36 Debo's got to play. Obviously you got to make sure he's okay. Um, we're sitting the bills running backs, right? You should. Yep. Sit Nick Mullins,
Starting point is 00:52:44 start Raheem Mostert. Talk extensively about him at the beginning of the show. And then, yeah, how about Ayuk and Debo here? Dave, you seem to like them both quite a bit. Who do you like better? I like Debo a little bit better just because of the high catch rate and just the way that they use him in the offense. And I think that he'll be a bigger problem for the bills defense than I
Starting point is 00:53:05 will be. Cause I, you cause a little bit more of that traditional type of receiver for them. Whereas Debo is getting these pop passes and screens and flares and kind of like a half running back half wide receiver. Right? So as long as he keeps getting these opportunities,
Starting point is 00:53:19 I would imagine he's in the neighborhood of seven targets in the game. He can be, he can be fine. He'd probably catch all seven of them. That'll help provide a nice safe floor and PPR. he's in the neighborhood of seven targets in the game, he can be fine. He'd probably catch all seven of them. That'll help provide a nice safe floor in PPR. If he can break a couple of plays, absolutely. I'm fascinated to see how this is going to go because it's the first time that they're together
Starting point is 00:53:35 without George Kittle. I feel like the New England game, right? Or no? Oh, Kittle got hurt in that game. He played in that game. He played in that game? Okay. Kittle got hurt in the game. Or he played in that game. He played in that game? Okay. Kittle got hurt in the Seattle game.
Starting point is 00:53:48 So, pardon me for asking, but did I overlook Nick Mullins? Because if you guys both know... No, I like him as a set number two quarterback. Yeah, you both say that. He's not bad for the showdown. He's not bad for quarterback or super flex leagues. So, you should take a look to see if he was dropped,
Starting point is 00:54:07 which understandably so. I'm sure he was. He's behind, you know, like when we went into Tuesday and the list of quarterbacks that I gave you of Fitzpatrick and Rivers and Baker and obviously Trubisky, because you can't forget Trubisky. He's behind that group,
Starting point is 00:54:22 but I probably should have put him on the list. Okay. Wrapping up here, would you start Ayuk or Reid against... Ayuk or Reid. I'll get to Reid in a second. Ayuk or Debo over Amari Cooper? Yes.
Starting point is 00:54:37 No, I'd start Cooper over those guys. Frank Gore or Ayuk or Debo? No. Niners guy? I'd take the upside of the Niners guy. It's an easy answer in PPR, but even in non-PPR, I think the Niners receivers are better. Yeah, Adam, I'm just looking at Kittle's game log.
Starting point is 00:54:56 He played the New England game, which was week seven. Then week eight is when Kittle got hurt, but I think Samuel got hurt in week seven against the Patriots. Jordan Reed, start or sit? With Matt Milano back, I think you have to sit him.
Starting point is 00:55:12 If Milano does stay out one more game, then he becomes a little bit more viable. The fact that he had six targets last week is encouraging. Six targets each of his last two games. He didn't play well last week, but the game before that, I think he had five catches. Reed would be a more interesting streamer if matt milano's out he's just such a good defender of tight ends yeah he really is all right uh something to keep an eye on in this game the bills defense is getting better it seems and if they get milano back
Starting point is 00:55:39 let's see maybe they can really become a complete team and a real contender here. Be interesting to get the reaction that we'll see on Monday night. We're going to take a quick break. I'll tell you, they come out of both. Both these teams come out of their week 13 game healthy. Pittsburgh Buffalo is going to be a fun one to watch. Terrific. All right. So we will take a quick break here.
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Starting point is 00:56:38 Are we confident in any running back in this game against two of the better run defenses in football? You're going to start Camara. There's not enough evidence to say that you absolutely positively have to sit him down. You just can't look at him as a top five running back. Gurley, if he plays, you're crossing your fingers and hoping he scores. It didn't happen the last time these two teams played. He was horrible.
Starting point is 00:57:02 Yeah, so you should try to get away from Gurley. The Saints haven't given up a touchdown to a rushing touchdown to a running back since week four. And they're going for 50. Going for 50? 50 straight games without a 100-yard rusher. They do it this week in the regular season. And who was the
Starting point is 00:57:19 last guy to get it? Samaje Pirine. That's right. Of the Washington football team. I mean, this is not a DFS game to target, folks. These defenses are playing pretty well, especially New Orleans. They've won eight in a row. And let's talk about Taysom Hill versus Matt Ryan.
Starting point is 00:57:36 How do you guys see this one? If Matt Ryan has Julio Jones, it's obviously closer. But you know what Taysom's going to give you from a rushing standpoint as a floor? Forget about the touchdowns. He'll give you 30 to 50 rushing yards because he's shown you that now in two straight games. If he's going to run with the chance to score one
Starting point is 00:57:54 touchdown, and the last time these two teams met, if that's the only thing you're going by because I think they really were so scaled back last week against Denver that he'd probably be in the neighborhood of 25 passes, 20, 25 passes again. If he can get 200 yards passing and 50 yards rushing, you know, if he gets you a couple of touchdowns on that, he'll be good.
Starting point is 00:58:10 If he doesn't, then he's going to be bad. You know? So he's a low end starter for me. I would start cousins over him, Tannehill over him, Fitzpatrick over him. If he starts big Ben, you know, those types of guys, I'm sorry, Trubisky. I'm not there yet. Trubisky over him. Trubisky is, you know, track record against Detroit. Trubisky? I'm sorry? Trubisky. I'm not there yet. I have Trubisky over him. Trubisky's, you know, track record against Detroit makes me a little bit more confident. Detroit's defense makes me a little bit more confident. You know, like we said, this is really the one game
Starting point is 00:58:34 where the Falcons' defense tripped up since Raheem Morris has taken over. You know, they've been really solid with him running the show. Now, that's weird because he was the defense coordinator, but this unit has played great. And we saw last week that they were awesome against a good raiders team coming in based on what the raiders have done so uh in their building they're better um i just don't think it's uh like in terms of trubisky and and tasem hill um you kind of know tasem hill has to run and whatever you get throwing the ball on top of it is a bonus.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Trubisky, you know, he'll at least have a little bit more competency throwing the ball, which is strange. Falcons tried doing some different things defensively against Taysom Hill the first time, and it didn't work out for him. Usually they play a lot of zone, and that's what the Broncos did against Taysom Hill last week, and he struggled against it. I'm nervous about Taysom Hill,
Starting point is 00:59:26 and I might get to the point where I'll take Trubisky ahead of him. I certainly think Trubisky is more upside than Taysom Hill. And it really could be just as simple as double team the heck out of Michael Thomas and then just make that great run defense show up against Taysom Hill and try and focus those front seven to try and corral him a little bit because he did not throw the ball nearly as well last week as he did two weeks before. Okay. Alvin Kamara and Michael Thomas.
Starting point is 00:59:56 Are there any, would you start Kareem hunt over Kamara? I originally had it ranked that way. I switched it after our show yesterday, but I mean, they're, you know, they're,
Starting point is 01:00:08 they're, they're kind of similar. You know, you'd like to see Kareem on doing a little bit more, but Kamara, I think it's still, you're going to hope at some point, Sean Payton gets creative enough to get him the ball in some certain
Starting point is 01:00:17 spots to make him a little bit more comfortable. And that's an easy way to make tasting a little bit more comfortable. And that would be the great counterpunch for, for new Orleans to go with in this game against Atlanta, is to use him more in the passing game and try and negate that front for Atlanta. I've got Kamara higher. He's got way more upside.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Alvin Kamara or Miles Sanders this week? Kamara. Kamara and PPR, Sanders and non-PPR. All right. Latavius Murray is the number three running back. He had a bunch of carries last week, 19 of them, but typically he's in the 8 to 12 carry range and doesn't get a ton of catches.
Starting point is 01:00:50 So don't be too fooled by last week's performance. And then Michael Thomas, you know, you guys talked a lot about DeAndre Hopkins and how he's still a good start. You know, you could theoretically get away with him, get away from him, but in all likelihood, you're starting him. Would you start Hopkins or Michael Thomas?
Starting point is 01:01:04 Like, how do they compare? Hopkins. I mean, Thomas is, you in all likelihood you're starting him. Would you start Hopkins or Michael Thomas? Like how, how do they compare? Hopkins? I mean, Thomas is, you know, it's the quarterback situation. You know, again, there's a two game sample size. You can't really look at the game last week from the, the, the saints perspective and say they were doing anything creative because they just wanted to get their win and go home, you know, and knowing that the Broncos offense was going to be so inept and that's the way it played itself out.
Starting point is 01:01:23 They were much better in the first start for Taysom Hill. And Michael Thomas was excellent in that game for where he's been. He dropped the pass in that game, you know, just to show you what his hundred yards weird is wide open too. So Thomas is still a number two wide receiver. I feel a little bit more comfortable with, with the Andre Hopkins because of his quarterback comparatively to Thomas,
Starting point is 01:01:41 but I'm not going to bench Michael Thomas unless I have great options. And, you know, we laid it out. Dave told you some of the guys you may have picked up or drafted along the way. Those guys are better. But Thomas, for the most part, again,
Starting point is 01:01:50 is going to be started. And I'll tell you what his start percentage is just to let you know what everybody's thinking. So he's, I'm sure, going to be 95 plus. I'd be shocked if it's lower than that. Well, I think he should be. I mean, he's getting about 50% of the targets. 90%.
Starting point is 01:02:03 So there's a little bit of a downturn. Yeah, I mean, he's getting a ton of of the targets. 90%. So there's a little bit of a downturn. Yeah. I mean, he's getting a ton of targets and, you know, percentage-wise. And, what, he had 50 yards last week and Taysom Hill, what did he throw for like 86 yards or something like that? He is looking for Thomas a lot. He threw for 78 yards and Michael Thomas had 50 of them. The week before, he threw for 233 yards and Michael Thomas had a little more had 50 of them. The week before, he threw for 233 yards and Michael Thomas had a little more than 100
Starting point is 01:02:26 of them. So, as long as he has to throw more than 20 times, there's going to be a bunch of targets for Thomas. Jared Cook, Sidham, Matt Ryan. Let me ask you this. I mean, it's easy to get away from him if Julio doesn't play. The Saints defense has been so good right now. If Julio does play,
Starting point is 01:02:42 would you start Cousins, Trubisky, Mullins over Matt Ryan? I'm for sure going to go with Cousins over Ryan, even if Julio plays. I need to hear a report or two saying Julio is back to himself. Anything short of that, and I'm not going to start Matt Ryan. Julio can play. If he's not playing at 100% against this defense and the way that Matt Ryan's been playing, I'm not going to start Matt Ryan. Julio can play. If he's not playing at 100% against this defense and the way that Matt Ryan's been playing,
Starting point is 01:03:06 I'm not going to start him confidently. We've been doing this podcast so long already today. By the time we're done, we might get a practice report for the Falcons. Well, then let's wrap up here. Start Calvin Ridley. Sit Todd Gurley. Any interest in Russell Gage?
Starting point is 01:03:21 No. Not unless I'm desperate. Okay. Yeah. So there have been 10 wide receivers with 7 or more targets, 9 of them against the Saints. 9 of them have had 73 yards or a touchdown. The only one who didn't was Russell Gage two weeks ago.
Starting point is 01:03:39 And Hayden Hurst. Hayden Hurst or Zach Ertz? Ertz. Hurst, you're saying. Okay. No, I said Ertz. Oh, okay. They do sound kind of similar. I probably, you're saying. Okay. No, I said Hurts. Oh, okay. They do sound kind of similar. I probably should ask different ones. Hayden Hurst or Dalton Schultz?
Starting point is 01:03:55 Hurts. Targets are still there for us. You got to buy into that. Targets and catches are still there for them, but touchdowns haven't been there for them. And the Saints have been great against covering tight ends. All right, Saints DST, top five for Dave and Jamie. Ninth for Heath.
Starting point is 01:04:12 Detroit at Chicago, your stat of the game. I don't know if this makes you a little nervous, Jamie, but running backs are only averaging 4.05 yards per carry against the Lions in their last seven games. And if you remove the Minnesota game, it's way less than that. Minnesota in the last seven games against the Lions, the only team as a team that averaged more than 3.5 yards per carry
Starting point is 01:04:34 in terms of the running backs. But 15 total touchdowns scored by running backs in those seven games. So David Montgomery is your start of the week. Alvin Kamara or David Montgomery? Montgomery. I can't believe it. I can't believe it.
Starting point is 01:04:50 But yeah. Do you agree? Yeah, I do. Sid Stafford. Trubisky. Who are you starting Trubisky over? Taysom Hill,
Starting point is 01:04:59 Cam Newton, Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford. How about Ben Roethlisberger? No, I like Roethlisberger? No, I like Roethlisberger better. Me too. How about Lamar Jackson?
Starting point is 01:05:08 Trubisky's track record. Look, again, this is where fantasy and reality differ. Trubisky's track record against the Lions. He's faced in the last four times 24 or more fantasy points, including 29 in week one. He just scored 24 points in a miserable game for his team against the Green Bay Packers. So I think this is a setup for him to have success. To what heights?
Starting point is 01:05:26 Who knows? Can he be 24 or more points again? That might be difficult, but 20 to 24, I think that can happen for him. So I like the setup for Trubisky. He just plays well against this opponent. And the Lions defense, they're down another two starters, and they're big starters.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Trufana cornerback and Danny Shelton, that monster human being on the defensive line, is done. Yeah, it's a great point. I think that just makes the matchup all the easier for Chicago, and they're just desperate for a win right now. Yeah. The only thing is with Trubisky is what did the Packers game and the Lions game have in common?
Starting point is 01:06:02 Garbage time. He was terrible through three quarters in both games. That's true. That's very true. So that's a little bit of a concern, I think, because if they win, if they have a good game, and I think they did win the first game,
Starting point is 01:06:18 DeAndre Smith dropped it. The garbage time turned into meaningful time because they came back in that one. I guess I shouldn't call it garbage time, but it was catch-up mode and it was all in the fourth quarter. Oh, no, it was garbage time.
Starting point is 01:06:27 I mean, they made it a game because Detroit couldn't do anything offensively, but they were down three touchdowns. They were down three touchdowns. Wow, okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:35 So, DeAndre Swift or David Montgomery? I'm starting to feel Montgomery more at this point just not knowing what the quality of play you'll get from DeAndre Swift. And in fact, again, if a key mix plays, then it's easy. Montgomery.
Starting point is 01:06:49 All right. DeAndre Swift or Jonathan Taylor? Swift if he plays. Again, right now, Swift, but Taylor's already a couple spots away from him. I mean, Taylor's got top 10 upside this week. Starter sit Marvin Jones.
Starting point is 01:07:04 I would try to sit him if he can. He's got a bad track record against the Bears. And, you know, the secondary for Chicago, for the most part, aside from the Packers game, has been pretty good. Luckiest team in the world, man. They have faced the Lions without Gallaudet, the Falcons without Julio Jones,
Starting point is 01:07:18 the Bucks without Chris Goblin, and the Saints without Michael Thomas. They, like, it's, yeah, end of rant tj hockinson is top three in both formats and we go over to the bears trubisky we just discussed he's top 15 david montgomery we've been discussing all week so you know what to do with him alan robinson is top 10 in both formats do you have any interest in Darnell Mooney or Anthony Miller? None. No.
Starting point is 01:07:48 There'll be a second guy who plays well for Chicago, but it could be Cole Komet or Jimmy Graham at this point because they're starting to play Cole Komet more. I just don't think there's anybody at this point that you should feel comfortable starting. The one thing about Mooney is the targets have been there for him. Nine targets last week, but I think that's more of a... If they are chasing points, that's where you'll feel comfortable about Mooney,
Starting point is 01:08:05 but this does not feel like one of those games. Yeah, a lot of them are not catchable targets. Hashtag Trubisky. You know who the second guy could be, Jamie? David Montgomery. Yeah, I mean, five catches last week, that's true. That'd be great. Darnell Mooney must have one of the worst yards per target.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Maybe he's like never catches passes. 36 catches, on 65 targets. And Jimmy Graham. So we have to get away from Jimmy Graham, right, with this Cole Komet development? The Bears are getting away from Jimmy Graham. Right. That's it.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Exactly. They'll make that decision for us. And Bears DST? What do you think this week? You guys like their DST? Yes. Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:42 They're top 10. Bears or Ravens? Ravens if they're healthy. Ravens if they're healthy? Okay. Yes. Okay. They're top 10. Bears or Ravens? Ravens. Ravens if they're healthy. Ravens if they're healthy. Okay. That's fair. But they've got to be like all the way healthy.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Everybody's got to be back. Bears or Seahawks? Seahawks. Bears. Whoa. Really? I think Dave has a little level of confidence in the Giants to keep it close. Giants, I think, are 10-point dogs as we go to this game giants at Seattle.
Starting point is 01:09:07 And, uh, you know, in Tyler Lockett's last eight games, he has 512 receiving yards and 200, 200 of those came in one game and 75% of his touchdowns came in one game. What'd you say? What'd you say?
Starting point is 01:09:24 You're playing the Cardinals. Playing the Cardinals. That would be nice. Well, in some ways, it's similar, right? You got one good cornerback for the Giants and Bradbury, and I think Tyler Lockett's probably going to see a lot of rookie Darnay Holmes, their slot corner. But, all right, you guys talked about him earlier.
Starting point is 01:09:43 Lockett is like number two guy that you kind of start but don't feel great about is that the best way to put it you're starting him for the upside he's got big play potential absolutely could come through with a smash hit game um but not you know what the downside is too and you've got to measure that against some other receivers who probably don't have as much upside or downside as Lockett can give you. Like the 49ers guys, for example, in PPR. Those guys you could probably pencil in for around a dozen PPR points. And we can't quite do that with Lockett.
Starting point is 01:10:17 He might get you 32 or he might get you. Right. The ceiling is higher for Lockett. The floor is lower for those guys. What if you're taking on a team in your league that's just been scoring points like crazy you'll probably start what i would do if i was if i was russell wilson i would not throw to the wide receiver who had three catches for minus six yards like david moore had last week maybe give those targets to
Starting point is 01:10:41 tyler lockett i would hope so yeah uh so ch, Chris Carson or Tyler Lockett, who would you start? Carson. Carson, I think, is safer. And then, again, if there's no Carlos Hyde, then Carson is much safer. Would you start Chris Carson or Deebo Samuel? And I'm going to assume Carlos Hyde's not playing. I mean, he hasn't practiced Wednesday or Thursday. So, I guess I shouldn't fully assume that.
Starting point is 01:11:04 But for the purposes of this exercise. I think it's close. I've got Carson a little higher as of now. I would start Carson for sure, non-PPR. I would start Debo in PPR. All right. That's assuming Carlos Side plays. Metcalf is a must-start.
Starting point is 01:11:21 We don't really have to talk much about the Giants. Wayne Gallman is a number two guy. Gallman or Gurley? Gallman. I don't really have to talk much about the Giants. Wayne Gallman is a number two guy. Gallman or Gurley? Gallman. And I don't like Gallman this week, but I hate Gurley. Yeah. Hate's a strong word, Jamie. I hate Gurley as a fantasy option for this week.
Starting point is 01:11:35 There you go. We had Todd Gurley on the show. He's very nice. He got mad at me because I told him I traded him, which is true. And he said, you traded me, dog? It was very funny. Russell Wilson, do you want to tell us
Starting point is 01:11:48 why you have him ranked in the top three after he has been kind of, you know, they've been running the ball more. He hasn't been so great. He's been running on the Giants. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:56 He said that a lot this year. I know. They did lose a starting linebacker for what that's worth. Fackrell. Fackrell. Not sure how good he is, but he plays a lot.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Okay, so Russell Wilson's top three. I feel like they're just... There's Mahomes. I would personally probably go Rodgers. Rodgers, too. Jamie has Rodgers, three. The only guy that I might move ahead of Russ is Josh Allen. Yeah, like none of the other quarterbacks, even though we like them.
Starting point is 01:12:28 You know, it's Watson, obviously no fuller. Herbert facing the Patriots, who are super slow, and they're not terrible defense, I guess. Well, but they don't give up a lot of points. Wilson's been struggling a bit. Murray, we know. So it's a weird week for quarterbacks. But dance with who? What's the dance with who got you there? Brungia, whatever the hell the expression is. Wilson's been struggling a bit. Murray, we know. So it's a weird week for quarterbacks. But dance with who?
Starting point is 01:12:48 What's the dance with who got you there? Brungia? Whatever the hell the expression is. Go to the dance with that person that you've been dancing with. And start Metcalf. And start the Seahawks DST. Dallas at Baltimore. All right, stat of the game. A wide receiver has had 78 or more yards every game against Dallas.
Starting point is 01:13:07 Every game, at least one wide receiver, 78 or more yards. So, just keep that in mind. I see that stat, and I raise you Baltimore. I raise you Travis Fulgham, Christian Kirk, Darius Slayton, even Odell Beckham. Those were... Odell Beckham.
Starting point is 01:13:21 Yeah, I gotta say, he doesn't usually get 78 yards. That guy hasn't scored any fantasy points in like the last four weeks. What scenario would it take for you to start Marquise Brown? Losing Will Fuller and needing a receiver to replace him? I think Marquise Brown's an okay number three receiver this week, but it's just... It took a garbage-time touchdown from a third-string quarterback
Starting point is 01:13:43 in a miserable game for him to score and it's just been very frustrating now you said it adam if there's no um mark and there's no willie sneed you know they're so depleted again um then yeah then marquise brown hopefully we'll see an uptick in targets and lamar jackson hopefully plays but if it's rg3 again or trace mcsorley because rg3 can't go and Lamar Jackson's not cleared, I don't know how much faith I'm going to have in Marquise Brown. You'll have none.
Starting point is 01:14:09 You won't have any. It would have to be Jackson. Let's do this game. Let's say if Lamar Jackson plays, where are you ranking Lamar Jackson? Ahead of Trubisky, right around 12. Yeah. Yeah, it won't be super high. so you'd take like tannahill over
Starting point is 01:14:28 him i think i might i'm not sure assuming aj brown i i really i feel like we've been we've been burned so often by lamar jackson and this matchup should be perfect for him but he just hasn't played well like there's a big part of the problem here that's on him for not throwing the ball well, not making good decisions with the football, not running as much as he did last year. He's still running plenty, though. I mean, by comparison to most quarterbacks,
Starting point is 01:14:56 hell yes, but compared to the MVP season, hell no. He's approaching... I think he's on pace for over 900 rushing yards per 16 games, so he's a huge asset in the running game. All right. So you're saying like low end starter. Low end starter is a great way to put it.
Starting point is 01:15:12 J.K. Dobbins, Dave, much higher on than Jamie and Heath. Jamie's got him as like a number two guy, low end number two. Dave has him as a low end number one guy. He's expecting that workload. And the Cowboys are just brutal. Fifth most fantasy points allowed to running backs. We talked about Marquise Brown. Obviously, if Mark Andrews starts, you're going to start him, right?
Starting point is 01:15:31 Yes. And then Zeke, Jamie, as much as Jamie's not super pumped about J.K. Dobbins, he does have Dobbins just ahead of Zeke, and Dave has Dobbins way ahead of Zeke. Zeke is a low end number two, but Zeke would be ahead of Gurley for sure. What about Gallman or Zeke? I'd take Zeke over Gallman. I believe I have Gallman ranked ahead of Zeke. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:52 It's closer in non-PPR than in PPR because I still think that Zeke, I'm still hopeful that Zeke will get a couple catches. And Amari Cooper is worth starting. He has, I want to say 79 or more. Yeah, 79 or more yards in all four games that Andy Dalton has started. So, wahoo.
Starting point is 01:16:07 And he had a huge game last week. Yeah, Dalton features him. I mean, it's nice to see. Yeah, and Dalton Schultz is like 15th or lower. You don't really want him. You're hoping for eight PPR points. He's been getting you catches. That's been the nice thing
Starting point is 01:16:23 about Schultz. Baltimore DST is top 10. Start them. And they could rise higher depending on the news that we get before the game on Tuesday. Remember, this is a Tuesday game. So we hopefully have some updates for you. Well, we've done the show so long that practice reports are coming in. And good news for the Colts.
Starting point is 01:16:40 DeForest Buckner has been active. Hey, all right. That is big news. Bad news for Duke Johnson. Bad news for the Texans. Yeah. Okay. Jacksonville, Minnesota. I'm going to give you guys 60 seconds on this game.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Dave, go. Robinson is the best start on Jacksonville. Everybody is the best start on Minnesota. Tyler Eifert is a sleeper if you're desperate at tight end. Nib high school football rules. DJ Chark. Let's talk about him. Start or sit? If he plays?
Starting point is 01:17:14 Maybe a number three receiver. Maybe. Cole Beasley or DJ Chark? Beasley and PPR. Chark and non-PPR. Okay. Last one. How about Ezekiel Elliott or DJ Chark? Beasley and PPR. Chark and non-PPR. Okay, last one. How about Ezekiel Elliott or DJ Chark, PPR?
Starting point is 01:17:32 Zeke still. Zeke's got more upside. And you'd start Kirk Cousins over Lamar Jackson, even if Jackson is playing against Andrews back? Yeah, I can't get away from the track records of both quarterbacks against Jacksonville. They've been putting up points like crazy, and Kirk Cousins has been putting up points like crazy.
Starting point is 01:17:49 The only thing you've got to fear with Cousins is that the run game is just so dominant and that the Jacksonville offense is inept, and you get one of the stronger defensive games for the Vikings that we've seen all season, which could happen because Jacksonville's offense could be inept because Mike Lennon's not a good quarterback. So, you know, Cousins' pass attempt's been low.
Starting point is 01:18:08 The nice thing about Cousins is he's been 30 more pass attempts in the last three games, which we know for him is big. So is it going to be a 21-point game for Cousins or is it going to be a 28-point game for Cousins? What did you make of Gary Kubiak saying that Dalvin Cook is beat up? I mean, he left the game last week, so he's got a little ankle injury. I wonder if that means that they are going to be open
Starting point is 01:18:29 to the idea of letting Kirk cook. I don't think they're ever open to that, nor should they be, but he's playing well. I think that this is the perfect time for them to be open to it. You don't have to cook that much to have a good meal against Jacksonville. That's true.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Because they're tied with New England most yards per attempt in the NFL. The floor for Cousins this week should be safe. Because the matchup's good. He's been good at home. And he's playing very well. His November was among the best months he's ever had in the NFL.
Starting point is 01:18:55 And Cook's beat up. But I mean, still. Look, I'm still starting. Yeah, yeah, all right. They're still going to run the ball. And it's like what happened with the Packers last week is the passing game going to set up the, the,
Starting point is 01:19:09 the game flow where cousins does enough to give them a lead. And then they just get conservative in the second half. I can certainly see that happening, which is the fear with cousins, but you know, he's playing well enough in the matchup suggests he should have another good game and he's been great at home. So I'll buy into that.
Starting point is 01:19:23 Cool. And yeah, you guys talk too much. You couldn't let me discuss that I cooked an unbelievable meatloaf last night. Dave, you would have loved it. It was really great. And final thing for you to know,
Starting point is 01:19:33 nine of, oh no, that's not it. In the last eight games, in the last eight games, the Jaguars have allowed 77 yards or a touchdown to 14 wide receivers in the last eight games. So this could be a really good DFS play. We are out of here. You want some DFS advice? Check out CBS Sports HQ. We're giving you that today, noon Eastern. You can watch it on demand on your OTT device. Thanks to Dave and Jamie. I'm Adam. We will talk to you with the Mailbag Show on Saturday.

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