Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC): Falcons Offense, Bears Offense, Chuba and More! (10/01 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 1, 2021

Let's hope the weekend slate is as good as the Thursday night game. We start the show with a Jaguars-Bengals recap. James Robinson or Joe Mixon rest of season? Is Ja'Marr Chase a first round pick in a startup dynasty draft? ... News and notes (12:00) and five big questions for Week 4 (18:00)! How do we feel about Chuba Hubbard? Can the Falcons and Bears get their offsenses back on track and are we starting David Montgomery and Allen Robinson? Is this going to be a good week for Robert Woods? Who are some sleepers for deeper leagues? We've also got "Beat the Waiver Wire" (26:00) and the Startometer (28:15) for Browns-Vikings, Bears-Lions and Giants-Saints ... Start or sit for Washington-Falcons (31:00), Panthers-Cowboys (39:50), Cardinals-Rams (46:40), Seahawks-49ers (53:40), Browns-Vikings (1:01:00), Bears-Lions (1:06:40) and Giants-Saints (1:08:50) ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Welcome to the show, everybody. Recapping Thursday night, another fun primetime game, and previewing seven more NFC home games for Fantasy Week 5. This is going to be the week for the Bears offense to get going, the Falcons offense to get going.

We got a nickname for Chuba Hubbard. Dave and I don't really see eye to eye on it. I think it's a pretty obvious nickname. We'll get to that a little bit later. Old Mother Hubbard. Old Mother Hubbard is, yeah. You know what? Maybe I should just change my team name because I have them in a few leagues.

Podcast League, I could do that. You drafted him in the leagues with McCaffrey, right? I only have one McCaffrey league. I drafted Hubbard in two leagues. IDP and my McCaffrey league. Look at you. Feeling like a superstar.

I'll be starting him this week. Got a little extra Chuba going on. He's like 96% rostered and I still don't understand why Alexander Madison never got to that last week. It was weird. I'm sure it's probably like some 10-team leagues.

I'm in a weird 10-team league where you only start one running back. And so he was available on Friday. Oh, you know, yeah, but I don't know. I don't know. But that's the thing. I mean, is he going to be Alexander Madison? We'll talk about that a little bit later. We should start, though, with Cincinnati 24 and Jacksonville 21.

And some injury news is DJ Chark broke his ankle on the opening possession. That was really very unfortunate. And Joe Mixon left in the fourth quarter. He wasn't in on the game-winning drive. First of all, this has been a good year, a good season so far of football. Sorry for this lukewarm take, but some of these games that you think are going to be crap. Football or Thursday night football? Everything.

I think it's been a really good year so far. There have been some crappy Sunday 1 o'clock games. Sure, yeah, there's a lot of games. Right, those are the most likely to be crappy anyway, right? The Sunday 1 o'clock games have been, for the most part, duds. The 4 o'clock games are usually always good, and they've lived up to it. But the Thursday night games, which are typically hit or miss,

these have been good for some, like you said, some bad matchups. I appreciate Trevor Lawrence with his minimal pass attempts, by the way, giving me my favorite prop under. Oh, congratulations. 24 pass attempts. You would think in a game like this you would remember. 36 and a half? Was the prop, yeah. 24 pass attempts. You would think in a game like this, you would remember. 36 and a half? Was the prop, yeah.

Wow. I guess that makes sense, yeah. All right, so let's talk about this game from the Jaguars' perspective, Dave. With Chark out with a broken ankle, we see a big game from LaVisca Chennault. Unfortunately, not from Marvin Jones. He only had three targets.

Chennault had seven of Lawrence's 24 targets or pass attempts targeted his way. What do you think of Jones and Chenault going forward? And Chenault will be popular on the waiver wire. He's 60% rostered. He'll be popular. He should have already been on rosters in PPR leagues because you knew that he had good volume. We just didn't see it necessarily.

I think the injury that he had a couple games ago might have taken him out a little bit. But obviously, losing DJ Chark is an important deal in that offense. There's going to be more targets to go around. I'm surprised that Marvin Jones only had three targets. Chenault should absolutely be rostered.

He should be considered a flex play in PPR leagues. James Robinson. First two games. He looked very. James Robinson. First two games. He looked very good, huh? First two games, pretty bad. Second two games, games three and four,

studly. Only one catch in this game, but whatever. Two rushing touchdowns. Jamie, if Joe Mixon doesn't miss next week, it was apparently just a minor ankle injury. So let's just say they're both healthy. Who would you rather Jamie, if Joe Mixon doesn't miss next week, and it was apparently just a minor ankle injury, so let's just say they're both healthy, who would you rather have going forward, Mixon or James Robinson?

Right now, probably still Mixon, but it's close. You know, you got to take a couple things into account. You mentioned the catches, so game flow. You know, they had a 14-0 lead, you know, so I would imagine that had something to do with him not being involved in the passing game. But the bigger factor was Carlos Hyde wasn't active right before the game, you know, so who knows how much of a role he would have had because he had eight carries last week.

You know, so as well as Robinson played in week three, Hyde was still, you know, on the field. But you got to be really encouraged by it, and the gap is closer by a lot, you know, between these two guys. You know, for Mixon, he's not involved in the passing game anymore. He went from four catches in week one to next to nothing these last three games. I don't know what Zach Taylor is doing in regard to using Joe Mixon, but he's got to do a better job of that. I think that will help the offense. He's using Samaje Pirine on third downs,

and Pirine is doing much more as a pass protector than he is a route runner. Mixon, there were only nine third downs for the Bengals. Mixon played on third of them. They were all third and short, including his touchdown, was one of those plays. But, yeah, he's not nearly as involved in the passing game as we had hoped. I think you go back to the preseason when it was he's never coming off the field. And now he's coming off the field.

So you got saved by the touchdown, you know, and it's been, you know, three decent games for him, one monster game in week one. And then, you know, week three, 90 yards rushing. You can't say that was a bad performance, but he's, he's got to pick up. He's got to pick it up. And Zach Taylor's got to pick it up for him. It was an interesting game in the second half. Like in the first day, he had 14 yards on five carries in the first half. The Bengals looked listless.

It was a joke. And then they came out in the second half. They were a completely different team. And Mixon was awesome in the second half. They found their new weapon. What happened? Oh, Dave, who's their new weapon? Uzava!

Ah, yes. Come on, you were supposed to do that. You promised on Twitter you were going to drop a Uzama. You still have time. You know what it is. I mean, Burrow, he has... I'm a little bitter at him, at Uzama. Why?

Because he ruined my prop, my Thursday night prop. Oh, sorry. It's okay. We got a good game out of it because it was awesome. It was a fun game. Yeah. Don't chase. Don't chase him.

Oh, you don't think he's going to get 95 yards and two touchdowns every week, Jamie? Come on. No, I feel like he's going to win, but the thing you don't want to chase with him is T. Higgins playing. So just remember that. Yeah. Right, right. Higgins could be back next week. And Yuzama's previous career high was 66 yards he had five catches 95 yards and two touchdowns

in this game uh so hey by by that line of thinking jamie would you agree that the time is now to trade tyler boyd for whatever you can get uh it's not a bad call yeah i mean you know we we saw we saw boyd obviously play well uh week two right uh seven catches in week two and so you know i don't think he's going to be a non-factor i also think that you know you're seeing joe burrow start to get more comfortable and he's moving around in the pocket and you know doing some things that he looked like last year so you know things are probably clicking in place for him so you got to get something pretty good return i'm not giving tyler boyd away not that you're getting a lot in return for Tyler Boyd, but if you find a receiver needy team, look, there's going to be

teams that don't have A.J. Brown and potentially Julio Jones, Sterling Shepard, T. Higgins, you know, that could be, you know, receiver needy, but you got to get something better in return if you're trading away. And I don't know if you're going to do that. He could be a piece in a trade in a two for one deal where you trade him in a weaker running back for a better running back or him in a weaker receiver for one really good receiver. Well, I think that, you know,

I would trade Boyd and James, which Boyd and James Robinson, you'd try to land, which running back one of the studs for sure. Would you trade Boyd? Maybe it's not such a great idea, but Boyd for A.J. Brown. Betting on A.J. Brown coming back soon.

Oh, I mean, if someone's going to do that, they're idiots, but sure. Absolutely, I'd do it. Well, if someone's 0-3 or 0-4, because it'll be actually... If you're trading A.J. Brown for Tyler Boyd thinking you're turning your season around, you're crazy.

Well, but you're trying to get wins now. Trust me, I agree with you. I'd rather have A.J.'re crazy. Well, but you're trying to get wins now. Trust me. I agree with you. I'd rather have AJ Brown rest of season. But if that's a move you can make. Yeah. You know, the thing is you're wondering how long is AJ Brown going to be out? And I don't know how much.

It could be three more weeks. Well, he's not on IR. They said week to week. So my guess is he's, you know, I saw some reports that said they could probably probably get by with the jets and the jaguars without him so uh the bangles the bangles might tell them otherwise but yeah jaguars played really well okay jamar chase uh six catches 77 yards on nine targets and basically burrow every week is picking three guys and throwing almost all of his passes to three guys and instead of higgins this week, it was Tyler Boyd. I mean, it was CJ Uzama.

So that was, what, 17, 20, 26 targets go to the top three guys, and he threw 32 times in the game. I don't think anyone else had more than two targets in the game. That's a season high for him, right? Burrow, yeah. Yeah. 32 when they were trailing 14-0 at one point here.

So there's still going to be a run-heavy team when they can be. But I just think you're seeing what Jamar Chase, he is so good. The sky is the limit. He's just scratching the surface right now. How many cliches can I use? Jamar Chase, rest of season, is he a top 20 wide receiver? Would you rather have Jamar Chase or say Robert Woods? We'll finish on this.

Oh, Chase at this point. I mean, there's there's more touchdown potential as you see and you know like you said scratching the surface his prop was four and a half catches um you know it was uh not a bad play on the under um we had one of our our sports line experts on hq say that uh tim doyle and the logic was right was right, but you see what the upside could be as he starts to develop his route tree, and he's abusing corners. I'm already starting to think that he's going to be like a top 30 pick in drafts next year. Oh, without question. Oh, yeah, yeah.

He's doing what A.J. Brown's supposed to be doing. I'm thinking about where A about Ray J Brown was drafted. I was actually thinking this last night. I'm sorry if we're going long here, but just last thing, if you're doing a startup dynasty draft today, is Jamar chase an easy first round pick. He's in the conversation.

You know, I, I think you look at how receivers should be drafted in dynasty and, you know, think we're Justin Jefferson, how he put himself in position last year and jamar chase is doing the same thing so it'd be tough to keep him out of the first round i just i think he's the second rounder but yeah not not for sure all right you just don't see this type of production

in the first five games of someone's career very often okay guys uh four games what's that oh it's only been four games and he's tied he's tied to this quarterback for four more years at least, but you assume five. Yeah, four games. My bad. You want an edge on setting your DFS lineups. All right. Well, first of all, you can watch CBS Sports HQ on Fridays.

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Deep diving into pricing and matchups. Listen to the Fantasy Football DFS podcast wherever you listen to FFT. Dalvin Cook was limited in practice. So the bottom line is,

obviously if Cook plays, you're starting him and if he doesn't, you're starting Madison. But right now, are you expecting Dalvin Cook to play against Cleveland? Yes. We don't have –

Go ahead, Jamie. He met with the media, which is usually a good sign that he's going to play. Usually when guys are hurt and aren't going to be out there, they don't talk. And he was talking about how playing against Kevin Stefanski, his former coordinator, is going to be fun. I'd be surprised at this point. Unless there's a setback, he doesn't go. Dave, Josh Jacobs is questionable, but it's a Monday night game.

How are we going to— Maybe we'll get more information over the weekend, but right now, do you have to sit him? Yeah, I think you should plan on not having Jacobs for the matchup. You just have to wait and see how things go in practice on Wednesday. Or on Thursday, rather. He did return to practice. It's a positive sign.

Once you get to Saturday, you'll know what his status is. If he has three practices all week, the Raiders might not even list him on their final practice report. At that point, you can say, okay, maybe I've got them as a number two fantasy running back. So he's going to play, but this is what John Gruden said. Quote, he's not going to hesitate to put Peyton Barber in a primary role. So now you have to worry about what these guys are going to do with three of

them. So is it going to be at the expense of maybe Jacobs and his carry is going to be expensive. Kenyon Drake and his playing time to whatever degree you know not necessarily role but playing time and so that's where the mess becomes you know so i think if jacobs goes as expected he should be a number two running back based on the matchup but you know i wouldn't be surprised we come tuesday morning and it's barber had six or seven carries jaco Jacobs had 10 to 12, and Kenyon Drake had one or two, and then whatever Drake did in the passing game.

And we're looking at like a Tampa Bay situation where it's kind of just throw your hands up in the air and hope for a touchdown. I hate everything you're saying. I do too. Yeah, I think I'm still, if that's the case, I'm still probably going to start him over Javante Williams, which would be my one Josh Jacobs decision,

because I hate Williams' matchup, and I love Jacobs' matchup. But, yeah, I mean, that's ugly. All right, guys. Tyler Lockett mispracticed with a hip injury, and DK Metcalf was limited. Is there genuine concern about Lockett? Probably not Metcalf, but is there genuine concern about Lockett not playing at San Francisco?

If he doesn't practice on Friday, then I think you absolutely have to be concerned. Okay, if he doesn't practice on Friday, then I think you absolutely have to be concerned. Okay, if he doesn't play, is Russell Wilson still a top 12 guy? Yes, but at the lower end. I'd start probably Derek Carr over him if he doesn't have Lockett out there,

knowing that San Francisco's defense is still really good. I also would look at Will Disley for sure, with Gerald Everett not there and the opportunity to step up a little bit. So midweek do not practice. DNPs are never a good sign for a guy that was hurt. But the thing that you got to just keep an eye on with Lockett is

he hurt his knee in the game and this is a hip injury. So it could just be something that, secondary problem, they just want to make sure he's 100%. Dave, are you expecting all three Steelers wide receivers at this point? They were all limited, which is good news for Juju and Deontay,

but bad news for Claypool as he was downgraded to limited. I'm feeling much better about Deontay Johnson playing. He's going to be my favorite of all the Steelers receivers. Again, Juju's got to practice on Friday. I think if he gets in that practice, then he should be good to go for the game against Green Bay,

and that would lower the ceiling for Claypool. All right. Right now we're expecting Claypool into a set. Like, no question. Okay. George Kittle is questionable with a calf injury, but we expect him to play. A.J. Brown and Julio Jones mispractice.

We are not expecting them to play at the moment. Will Fuller practiced. Gronkowski mispracticed again, but we're ranking him. Giovanni Bernard mispracticed again. We're not as sure about him. Antonio Gibson mispracticed with a shin injury. If he is out, and this is, I think, the first game we're previewing today.

If he's out, is J.D. McKiss game we're previewing today, if he's out, is JD McKissick a must start? Do you think that they would give him the full role? I'd look at Jared Patterson just to see if he's available, which he should be in most leagues. But you've got to assume that McKissick, who said this offseason he wants to be more of a three-down

guy, would certainly be the lead guy. Patterson would be the supplement might, if I just was looking at how they use these guys uh he'd be the one they use probably a little bit more on obvious rushing downs early in the game but then as the game unfolds they probably would just give more work to McKissick so it wouldn't be a slam dunk for either guy in non-PPR but in PPR it would make McKissick a borderline must start in my opinion the good news is that the athletics Ben Standig says that this was a precautionary, did not practice for Gibson.

Friday will tell the tale. If he practices on Friday, he'll play and Jared Patterson won't be a thing. Okay. And if you are going to McKissick, he played two games without Gibson last year. He had 11 carries and two catches in one game, 13 carries and nine catches in another game.

Dan Campbell said you're going to see a lot more DeAndre Swift. Okay, we're always down for that. Darius Slayton and Sterling Shepard mispractice. This game, I don't think anyone wants to talk about. Giants at Saints, it's our last game that we'll be looking at today. Okay, do we have, real quick, real quick, do we have an update on the San Francisco running backs against Seattle? Elijah Mitchell was limited in practice,

so just keep an eye on that. If he plays, it's a mess. If he doesn't play, I like Sermon a lot, actually. Seattle's run defense has been absolutely horrid. Chicago quarterbacks, do we know who's starting for the Bears? Not yet. Jim McMahon. Jim McMahon, okay.

Start or sit? They would take Jim McMahon. And how about the IR wide receivers? Anybody coming off the IR? McMahon. Jim McMahon. Okay. Start or sit? They would take Jim McMahon. And the, how about the IR wide receivers? Anybody coming off the IR being activated this week? Do we know Bateman, Samuel, anyone like that? It doesn't

appear that way. I think, you know, again, they just opened the window for them to practice, but today will be the day. You know, if they feel comfortable enough with what these guys did on Wednesday and Thursday, then they'll list them as, you know, on the active roster on Friday to play in the day. If they feel comfortable enough with what these guys did on Wednesday and Thursday, then they'll list them as on the active roster on Friday to play in the game. That's one thing in terms

of Gibson. If, in fact, he does miss the game, keep an eye on Curtis Samuel because his role could be something that you want to monitor. Bateman is... I mean, they're both stash candidates at this point, but still I think... My guess is they're going to be on IR for another week. Okay.

And Samuel is 45% rostered, and as a guy who was a top 100 pick at one point, I think maybe you want to take a shot on Curtis Samuel, even if you don't have an IR spot, if you do have a roster spot to play with there. All right, guys. Five big questions that you have no more than a minute to answer. That's a minute combined.

I'm going to hold you to this. Question number one. How do you feel about Chubbard this week? That would be Chuba Hubbard, and that is obviously his nickname. How do you feel about Chubbard this week at Dallas? Dave? I like him. I think he's going to be worthy as a number two running back,

more so in PPR than non-PPR. Love the way he moves as a pass catcher. And he's got good speed. He's not a powerful back. I think he will continue to see targets. We've seen the Panthers give their running backs over 25% of the target share on the season, and Cowboys are allowing about an 84% catch rate

to running backs this year. So I'm excited about Chubbard. Jamie, who would you start Chubbard over? I would start him over Kareem Hunt. I would start him over Mike Davis. I'd start him over Clyde. I'd start him over Miles Sanders. I'd start him over

whichever Raiders running back starts. Next question. Are David Montgomery and Allen Robinson worth starting at Detroit? Jamie. Montgomery, obviously, is for sure. His workload has been consistent. I can't imagine a worse game plan than what we saw last week, but look,

give Detroit credit. They did a nice job on the Ravens running backs and running offense, and they're getting a lot of praise for it, but I still think Montgomery's workload is worth buying into. Robinson, it just depends on who you have. It's hard to get away from what his potential is, and there's going to be FOMO with him, but in regards to the play and the quarterback situation, it could be another bad week.

So just, you know, if you have Mike Williams and Cortland Sutton and these guys, you know, Brandon Cooks and guys that you've, you know, drafted later, picked up at some point, that's easy, but it's still hard to get Robinson out of your lineup, especially against this matchup. Maybe he should be Chubbard instead of Chubbard, just so people don't think I'm saying Nick Chubb. Dave, would you start Chubbarded instead of Chubbered, just so people don't think I'm saying Nick Chubb. Dave, would you start Chubbered, Chuba Hubbard, over David Montgomery and or Allen Robinson?

I would start him over Robinson. I would not start him over Montgomery. Is this the week for Robert Woods against Arizona? Dave? I think he's got a shot to do it. We know that he's had slow starts now each of the last couple of seasons. He does come around starting in October,

and this is a matchup that should be favorable to the Rams when they do throw the football. I'd like to see him get a little bit more target share in this offense, and eventually teams are going to adapt to Cooper Cup, and they're going to say, all right, you're going to have to beat us a different way. We're going to make you throw away from Cooper Cup. This could be one of those weeks for Robert Woods.

I still have him as a low-end number two fantasy receiver. All right. Robert Woods or Allen Robinson? Woods for me. Jamie, will Atlanta's offense get going this week against Washington? Washington gives up the most fantasy points to quarterbacks. Will the Falcons get going? If they can protect Matt Ryan, then yes.

If they can't, then no. And if they're going to continue to design plays to try and get the ball out of Ryan's hands, then probably not. But this is an exploitable secondary. We've seen that now for the majority of the season of the first three games. And I think this is an opportunity for Ridley and Pitts

to have some potential big plays. But they've got to give Ryan time and they've got to trust him to get the ball out of his hands because his average depth target has been miserable so far so hopefully this is uh this is the breakout game for him so uh you're not benching ridley i find it hard to bench pits you know you got to really buy in you know gronk is the easy one if you have him but um i don't think you should be starting dalton schultz over cow pits yet and then ryan is uh is an interesting play,

more so for Superflex and two quarterback leagues, but they got to show something this week because it's not been pretty so far. Yeah, I actually read an interesting quote on Kyle Pitts from The Athletic that Matt Ryan said that Kyle Pitts is getting double teamed more than any rookie other than Julio Jones since Matt Ryan has been there. I guess that's not a huge shock

when you think about it, but Pitts is getting that kind of attention. They should probably try doing it with Jamar Chase too. Well, it makes me think that maybe Russell Gage could play a role when he's healthy. Well, I like the case this week. I mean, you saw six targets last week and not a bad dart throw. Same target. And that brings me to my last same, uh, concept. And that brings me to my last question here. Who are some flex sleepers, like deep sleepers that we don't talk too much about for deeper leagues or desperate fantasy managers, man, I'm ravaged by injuries. I need something. I need 10 PPR points, something like that. Zaccheaus could be a guy who else, uh, Jamie, I'll start with you. Yeah. Zaccheaus is one Nick Westbrook would be another, um, you know, keep an eye on, on Josh Reynolds and Chester Rogers,

all the guys in that game, just looking at how things are potentially unfolding there. You can go back to said Wilson. If you're looking at it, scored a touchdown last week. He should have had a big catch if he had come down in bounds with it. So Dak, looking for him a little bit. I mean, obviously you can go to Deshaun Jackson again. The shot plays were there, and this game figures to be up-tempo and high-scoring. little bit um i mean obviously you can go to deshaun jackson again you know the the the shot

plays were there and and this game figures to be you know up tempo and high scoring so you know there's another guy i think his roster percentage on tuesday was like 11 you know i'm sure it crept up a little bit but um jared patterson in case there's no antonio gibson all right that's that's pretty good dave you have any names you want to add? I got a bunch. I think Kendrick Bourne is on my list. Sammy Watkins, Nelson Aguilar, same team as Kendrick Bourne, just the Patriots figure they're going to have to throw quite a bit against

Tampa Bay to stay in the game. And that's the weakness of the Tampa Bay defense. So I think those guys could be in play. Terrace Marshall, Terrace Marshall is someone that could end up taking a lot of whatever targets Dan Arnold was getting in that Carolina offense, and they're probably going to be chasing points against Dallas, or at least it's going to be a competitive game.

I don't think it's going to be one where Chubbard is going to run away with it. So Marshall could get some extra opportunities. K.J. Osborne didn't get the opportunities last week. I'm not convinced that Tyler Coughlin is going to be a thing week to week for Minnesota. Osborne is still playing quite a bit. He's got a few more names we want to rattle off because we're going to preview all of these games.

Sure. Brian Edwards with Las Vegas is somebody that I like a lot. Do you guys remember a tight end named Zach Ertz? It feels like we're chasing the touchdown from last week, but I feel like they they're gonna try and scheme jalen hurts to make easier throws against kansas city and that means shorter throws and goddard will get some and urts will get some colin johnson too for the giants yeah yeah yeah maybe cadarious tony but sammy walkins has always been the guy i keep going to him when i'm desperate

because he'll you know he could give give you a respectable PPR game. And if you don't want somebody who's going to give you three points, Watkins is involved enough. All right, we'll take a quick— Just keep my abatement plays, though. Yeah, that would not help. But you already said he's not going to play, so I'll just take your word for it. Obviously, you were just guessing. All right, we'll take a quick break here. We got Beat the Waver Wire, and then we'll get into the games when we come back on Fantasy Football today.

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So you got a roster spot to play with here. You got someone useless, just want to pick someone up maybe for next week and beat the waiver wire. How about Matt Ryan against the Jets? How about their defense? Falcons defense against the Jets. I still think Curtis Samuel, like I said, 45% rostered. You could look at any of those wide receivers coming off IR. Samuel and Bateman

I guess would be the top two. The Patriots DST. You can ask T.Y. Hilton too if you want. There you go. Patriots DST at Houston. The Titans DST at Jacksonville. You might get two games out of them, as we like the Titans this week against the Jets. But Jacksonville obviously played pretty well last night.

The Raiders DST against the Bears. If you're looking for a tight end, Dallas has been so bad against tight ends. Evan Ingram at Dallas. And Dalton Schultz, if you can keep it up, against the Giants. The Giants have also been bad against tight ends. Evan Ingram at Dallas. And Dalton Schultz, if you can keep it up, against the Giants. The Giants have also been bad against tight ends. Tight end game next week.

And Buffalo's at Kansas City on Sunday night. Hopefully a shootout. So, Emmanuel Sanders, Cole Beasley, if they're still available. Those are some of the names I've come up with here. And that's beat the waiver wire. If you're trying to just stash a guy just to see what happens this week, I mentioned Terrace Marshall as someone that could take some targets from Dan Arnold. Tommy Trumbull can move. waiver wire if you're trying to just stash a guy just to see what happens this week i mentioned terrence marshall someone that could take some targets from dan arnold tommy tremble can move

he's the rookie tight end in carolina i would imagine he would see an uptick in playing time now that arnold's off the roster i know they still have ian thomas but thomas has never really been great i'm trying to stash tremble in a handful of my deeper leagues and my tight end premium leagues. You know what? I'm going to say one more name. Taysom Hill. You never know when they might make the change. They're 2-1.

Why would they make a change? What if they go 2-2? What if they lose to the lame Giants? He's going to have to play piss poor Winston. Has he not been? I don't know if it's really him. Their offense has been pretty bad. So... Why don't you never know?

Their line isn't healthy. They really haven't curated any good pass catchers after all the hype that we gave them and that they created for themselves in the preseason. And it's kind of been ugly,

for sure. Okay. But I agree. I think he's going to need a couple of games. It's stinking. Yeah. And Thomas is coming back. They have their bye in week six.

I mean. Hey, 10-team leagues. Michael Thomas is 90% rostered. He might, might be available. Okay. Start-o-meter. The final three games we'll talk about. Minnesota and Cleveland here.

Zero to 10 for Baker Mayfield at Minnesota. One. No. I think he Mayfield at Minnesota. One. No, I think he's like a six. Okay. Kareem Hunt. Ten. Yeah, nine. You're starting Kareem Hunt.

Odell Beckham. Eleven. Beckham or Kareem Hunt? Beckham. Hunt. Kirk Cousins. Ten. Ten. Kirk Cousins? 10. 10.

Alexander Madison? If Cook's out. The starting running back for the Vikings is a 10. Yeah. Tyler Conklin? Three. Five. David Montgomery at Detroit?

10. 10. You're starting him. Alan Robinson? Seven. Yeah. 10. You're starting him. Allen Robinson. 7. Yeah, okay. I was going to say 8, but 7's good.

Jamal Williams against the Bears. 4. 6. Daniel Jones. 6 and 3 PR. Okay. Daniel Jones

at New Orleans. 3. 2. Saquon Barkley. 10. 3 and a half. What? Nah,

I'm just messing around. He's going to do a lot in the passing game. Cause it's not going to be an easy run. I know. I know. I look a little nervous, but yeah, I think you're not benching him.

No, exactly. Kenny Galladay at the saints. Uh, five, five is good. Evan Ingram. Zero.

Two. Done with him. Jameis Winston. One. That's like a three. Taysom Hill. Just kidding. Marquez Calloway.

Zero. Saints tight end. Eddie Saints other than Kamara? No. You could take them all, combine them, and they'd be like a three. I would really like to see them play a normal game.

They have not had a normal game yet. But that will... Their first home game, so maybe this will be as close to normal as we get. Yeah. But how are you defining normal here? Just their game script, their game flow. They've thrown no more than 22 times in any game.

That is bizarre. First week, they pummeled us. That's their new normal. They don't have Drew Brees anymore. Well, they didn't have the ball a lot last week. Yeah. I think it was two weeks ago they had the possession for like 22 minutes in week two. They've just had weird, weird games.

All right, here we go. Washington at Atlanta. Which quarterback do you like better? Heineke or Ryan? I like Heineke slightly. Which wide receiver do you like better? Ridley or McLaurin? Ridley. Ridley, but it's close.

I think McLaurin goes off. Which tight end do you like better, Thomas or Pitts? Thomas. Pitts and Thomas, okay. So they're pretty close, right? Yes. Which Falcons running back do you like better? Dave Patterson.

Okay, we'll get into it. So Taylor Heineke, he has made four career starts in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues. He has scored eight points, 22, 23, and 24 points. And the Falcons are giving up the third most points to quarterbacks. So you could see the case for a low end starter. It's not always pretty though. I mean, he didn't play well against the Giants and he came away with 23. He didn't play well against the Bills and he had 24 points, but he can run. I mean, that's

going to kind of be what you have to expect. Yeah. All right, low-end starter for him. He's also 5,900 on DraftKings as the 14th-priced quarterback. So if you're going to do daily, I think Heineke is a pretty good option. Gibson, if he plays, this is a good way. I mean, we're going to be actually enthusiastic for Gibson, right? Okay. Yeah. You got to hope so.

I mean, you know, I'd like to see them playing with a lead and what that means. You know, we saw a little in week one against the chargers and you got 90 yards rushing from him. So let's, let's have them playing with a, with,

with some sort of advantage here and hopefully he's doing okay. Yeah. 20 carries in that game. How about McKissick? Start or sit for a guy who's had two duds and one enormous game? The only way I'm starting McKissick is A, Antonio Gibson is out.

B, I'm in a PPR league, and I'm absolutely desperate for a running back, and I'm going to hope that somehow the game script will be favorable for him. Last week's game script should have been favorable for him, and he wasn't really that good. So I think he is a very, very dicey play. I would not want to use J.D. McKissick.

So I was talking to a handicapper friend of mine this morning, and he said this is the toughest game to figure out for him because of how the defense for Washington has played and how the offense has struggled for Atlanta. I think if you think, if you're on the school of thought that the Falcons are going to score points in this game, which as we've seen against this defense, teams have scored points against them,

then you've got to like McKissick. If you think that they're going to control the game, Washington can control the game, then you should stay away from McKissick. So however you approach the game. For me, I would expect Washington to control the game. I think McKissick is a desperation start, but

like Dave said, if you're stuck, he's not a bad PPR flex option. There's a pretty funny put-a-smile-on-my-face article in The Athletic about Arthur Smith and fantasy football. He knows the Lee Smith touchdown pissed off a lot of fantasy managers.

Kyle Pitts was a good article. Yeah. Jeff Schultz wrote it. Oh, yeah. Jake Sealy was quoted and all that. They got their fantasy guys in there to talk about Kyle Pitts. But Arthur Smith is under some heat right now. I mean, we were talking about it for the last two weeks.

The Falcons offense so conservative. Yeah, it's Arthur Smith knows he hears it. So I'm just hoping from a DFS angle anyway, that maybe the Falcons offense so conservative. Yeah, it's Arthur Smith knows. He hears it. So I'm just hoping from a DFS angle anyway, that maybe the Falcons air it out a little bit. Start Terry McLaurin. We'll finish with Washington here. Start McLaurin is a number two. If you had to choose between Chuba Hubbard and McLaurin, who would you choose?

I think I'd go Hubbard. I'd go McLaurin and PPR, but it's close. And Logan Thomas is top 10. Low end. Dave has him eighth. And Pitts is kind of in that same range, too. He needs more targets, man. Yeah, I know.

He definitely needs more targets. But what's happening in Atlanta is that they're handcuffed by their offensive line and by Matt Ryan playing. I think he's playing nervously. Where the offensive line is just letting in the pass rush. He's checking down. He sees zone pass rush he's checking down he sees zone coverage he's checking down he's not really throwing downfield that much that's part of what's been hurting pits the other part of what's hurting pits is that he's not getting wide open

like you would expect a first round they're double teaming them you know they're double they're not doing it all the time they're doing it a lot apparently they're doing more than any player other than julio jones Matt Ryan's tenure, any rookie. Well, I don't know if that's necessarily true. I don't even know if you can back that up with stats, but it is something that's happening quite a bit once they get in the red zone. And that's certainly hurting Kyle Pitts.

I am nervous to start Kyle Pitts until that offensive line makes Matt Ryan more confidence to go downfield. All right, but do we have any streaming tight ends, Dalton Schultz's of the world, that you're starting over either Pitts or Logan Thomas? This is the lowest start percentage Pitts has had since week one. Understandably so.

I think if it's like mid-70s. I think if you look at the people that may have paired Gronk with Pitts, that's an easy one to pivot to. In some cases, you may have seen Pitts drafted because he fell in a draft or two, that he was drafted with one of the premier tight ends, just with the hope that you get a good flex option out of it. But I'm not starting Thomas over him yet. I'm not starting Schultz over him yet.

I'm not starting… Jared Cook. No, I'm not starting Jared Cook or Higby over him yet. This is the FOMO guy. This is who you're afraid to miss out on. Yeah. Because if the target, if the stars align, first of all, if they just lower his route depth a little bit,

throw him open a little bit closer to the line of scrimmage, let him make a play after the catch. He's tough to bring down. He's a giant out there. So that's one thing that the Falcons can do. And it would be smart if they did it, and that would up the catches that he would have. If they did it in the red zone,

he'd have a chance to catch the ball like the three and just lay it out. And if he lays down, he's big enough to get into the end zone just like that. Well, they've got to get there. They have a terrible offense. They have a better chance to score. Also, from just the tight ends that have played

Washington, week one, Jared Cook had a good game. Week three, Dawson Knox scored a touchdown. They can be susceptible to some decent tight end performances, and he's the best one from a physical standpoint that they're going to face. susceptible to some decent tight end performances and he's the best one from a obviously you know

physical standpoint that they're going to face yeah i also saw that he lines up as a wide receiver as much as he lines up as a tight end and and maybe we should look at how how they defend right wide receivers and it's not good they give up the fourth most fantasy points to wide receivers so that's why calvin ridley is top 12 and non-ppr 14 and PPR. Let's finish with the Falcons running back. Neither Falcons running back Patterson or Davis has had a carry of longer than 14 yards. So if they can't get any big plays and Washington's defense has been bad this year,

but not their run defense, 3.76 yards per carry to running backs. Eighth fewest fantasy points. Then you need some volume and you're not really getting that, but you are getting catches. 28% of the team's targets have gone to davis and patterson so j davis said you like patterson better and yeah jmx davis better but he's not playing as much as davis but he's starting to get closer to making it like a 50 50 type deal and he's more explosive than davis davis is good

patterson's better and if they're both going to continue to catch passes from Matt Ryan playing scaredy cat behind his line, then I like my chances with Patterson. And he's also been more effective in the red zone. He hasn't played as much in the red zone or inside the five, but he's had more touchdowns. He's had more big plays there. Davis hasn't done it yet.

Davis is like a good floor play. If you're looking for nine to 12 PPR points, but I think Patterson can get you big plays there. Davis hasn't done it yet. Davis is like a good floor play if you're looking for 9 to 12 PPR points. But I think Patterson can get you right around there, if not higher than that, because of his explosiveness. Okay. Would you guys start a Falcons running back or a Broncos running back?

Pretty sure I'd go Davis, Gordon, Patterson, Javante. No, I don't. In my PPR rankings, I've got Patterson, then Davis, then Gordon, and then Javante. Would you start Pittman or your favorite Falcons running back? Falcons running back. Both Falcons running backs, over. All right. Big difference in the rankings on the DST, Washington's DST.

They have been horrible, but it's a good matchup. Jamie's got him 17th, Dave 10th, Heath fifth. Yeah, but I don't, we, you know,

obviously Dave and Jamie don't love the Falcons DST. Heath likes him a lot more. The Falcons DST. Washington. Sorry. Eventually they're going to figure, I can't imagine Ron Rivera is not going to, this is the get right game for them, I think.

Maybe. Carolina is at Dallas. Carolina's 3-0 with wins over the Jets, the Saints, and the Texans. Dallas is 2-1. Wins over the Chargers and the Eagles. Lost by two points to the Super Bowl champion Bucs. Start or sit, Sam Darnold. How about Darnold or Heineke or Ryan?

I go Darnold in six points for passingarnold or Heineke or Ryan? I go Darnold in six point for passing touchdowns. Heineke in four. I'll start Heineke, then Darnold, then Ryan. And I put Baker ahead of Ryan too. I think Darnold, this could be a little bit of a letdown for Darnold. We've seen

him play well and get schemed up against weaker defenses. I know it's silly on the surface to say that the Cowboys are a strong defense, but I really like the way that they've played the past couple of weeks. They're being way more aggressive. They're fast. And I think they're going to cause problems for Carolina, especially that. Look, there's a downgrade, obviously, from Christian McCaffrey to anybody.

And Chubbard is going to be okay, but he's not Christian McCaffrey. And I think that's going to make okay but he's not christian mcafree and i think that's going to make a difference in the game okay so yeah the cowboys defenses we'll see i am this may not even be that good of an offense they're facing but they give up yards they just force turnovers that's been their mo chuba hubbard we should probably spend just a little bit more time on chuba hubbard uh would you start alexander madison if he if he starts or Chuba Hubbard? Madison. Yeah.

Would you start Chubbard or Barkley? Take one. I'll start Hubbard. Chubbard or Cole Beasley, PPR? Hubbard. Chubbard. Jamie won't PPR? Hubbard. Chubbard. Jamie won't go with Chubbard. He's not feeling it.

Chuba Hubbard or how about Chuba Hubbard or Antonio Brown? Hubbard. I don't know if Dave said anything. He's looking. I'm hearing it.

All right, start Chuba Hubbard as a number two running back. DJ Moore. So he's obviously been incredible. 285 yards in three games and a touchdown. Eight or more targets in all three games. I do think he's getting a lot of his production on the left side of the field, and that is the Trayvon Diggs side of the field. So is there any... I didn't know there was a Trayvon Diggs side of the field. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's getting a lot of his production on the left side of the field, and that is the Trayvon Diggs side of the field. I didn't know there was a Trayvon Diggs side of the field.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's... I think that's where he lines up. I don't think he followed Devontae Smith last week. He did not, but I don't know if he necessarily stays on one side of the field. I think he's their right cornerback, and that's where Mike Evans lines up most of the time, on the left side of the offense, right side of the defense. But yeah, anyway, look, he's been really good against number ones. Is there any hesitation on DJ Moore?

A little bit, but I don't think you get, it's like the same thing with Brandon Cooks. Like you're not benching these guys. They've just been too involved in their offense. And, you know, now there's a change for whatever it's worth, you know, with Dan Arnold not being there. I don't think that's going to necessarily impact DJ Moore and what Sam Donald does,

but the hope would be, as what you said earlier, is that they're chasing points and that the targets are up. And so if the targets are up, you know, we could see a little bit more from DJ Moore. So he's just been awesome.

It's just way too difficult to get away from him. So he's a borderline number one receiver in PPR, a safe number two receiver in non-PPR. I just got to hope that this is one of the weeks where he scores a touchdown. Okay. Dave, I hope you're looking up the Trayvon Diggs stuff. I did.

I got it. Yeah. Last week, he was exclusively at right corner. Yeah. In the previous two weeks, he played the heavy majority just as an outside corner. One week, a little bit more than the other right corner. So he's probably one of those guys that prefers right corner

but is willing to go to either outside corner. He's played 13, 10, almost 30 snaps in the slot this year. I'm having trouble finding a guy that truly shadows receivers. I'm not sure. We're not seeing much of that this year. Yeah, I don't know if Tredavious White is doing it, but Ramsey doesn't do it. Darius Slay was playing exclusively

left cornerback against the Cowboys. He wasn't shadowing anybody. We might see it in New Orleans with Lattimore this week. Yeah, that could be. All right. Sorry to get off track here. We're sitting Robbie Anderson, but he's still 86% rostered. So hopefully he rewards patience there. Any interest in Tommy Chumble against the worst team against tight ends? Hold on. Just one last guy. Jair Alexander. Just because I looked it up.

He's been exclusively left corner. Yep. Exactly. He hasn't even played a snap of right corner. And Howard hasn't moved either. Who hasn't? Oh, Xavier and Howard? Yeah.

All right. Your question, Adam? Tommy Trumbull. Any interest? I'm stashed in premium leagues. In tight end premium leagues. Okay. Oh, interest? I'm stashed in premium leagues. Okay. Oh, I should have looked for him in Scott Fish. He's probably gone.

Dak Prescott is top 10. Kind of on the lower end. So that's interesting. Jalen Hurts or Dak this week? I'll start Dak. Hurts for me. Start of the week. Dak or Cousins? Dak. I have Dak one spot ahead of Cousins.

Start Zeke. Starters hit Tony Pollard. Can't feel good about starting Pollard. I'd almost say the same thing about him as I did for McKissick, except make it more. I don't know if you have to make it more non-PPR. He's certainly in the PPR conversation as well. You've got to be really thin at running back to go with Pollard. There's no good

reason to start him. He's going to get, what, 10 touches? Got to hope he has a couple of explosive plays against this Carolina defense. Would you start Pollard or Falcons running back? You'd start a Falcons running back. How about Pollard or who's like... Yeah, I mean, I guess I was going to ask something like JD McKissick or Naeem Hines. How about Naeem Hines?

Naeem Hines or Pollard? Hines and PPR. Yep. All right. Any hesitation, Jamie, on Cooper or Lamb coming off a couple of fairly disappointing performances, mostly for Cooper? Not to sit them, no.

I mean, probably not DFS plays, but certainly not to sit them. I mean, if they can continue to run the ball like they have, which I don't think is going to necessarily stop, their opportunities might be limited if they're playing with the lead. But CeeDee Lamb takes one more step and he falls in the end zone on the first big play that led to Zeke's first touchdown last week against the Eagles. I don't think anybody's concerned about him.

Cooper, you've got to worry. Maybe the ribs are a problem, but I think he's just too good. You're not getting away from these guys. A couple bad games shouldn't make you sit them by any stretch. Dalton Schultz is a borderline top-12 guy coming off a two-touchdown game against the Eagles. He's just behind Logan Thomas and Kyle Pitts. He's ahead of Micah Cicchi.

He's ahead of Robert Tunyon. He's ahead of Jared Cook. So, yeah, you can go with Schultz as a low-end number one tight end. Arizona at the Rams. I didn't have a stat of the game for the Cowboys, by the way. I'm sorry about that, everybody. Stat of the game for the Cardinals and Rams. way. I'm sorry about that, everybody. Stat of the game for the Cardinals and Rams. So, it's really

about Robert Woods and everybody starting cup, but Arizona has allowed five receiving touchdowns to wide receivers in three games. But the only wide receiver with more than 65 yards against the Cardinals. They have faced the Titans, two studs, the Vikings, two

studs, and the Jaguars. Who's the only wide receiver with more than 65 yards against the Cardinals? Marvin Jones? Incorrect. Even worse. K.J. Osborne. Yes, K.J. Osborne.

Very weird. They've allowed the second fewest pass plays of 20-plus yards, only one pass play of 40-plus yards. This is going to be a game with a lot of starts, no question. But Robert Woods is going to probably be asked about a lot. So where'd you guys end up? Jamie, where'd you end up on Robert Woods? Low end number two.

You know, he's toeing the line of a number three receiver. But again, you know, that number should really be moved from 24 to about 36. So you're starting Robert Woods. Again, his start percentage, like Kyle Pitts, lowest it's been all season. It's in the 70s at this point. He's got a great track record against this team. Four of his last five games, at least 18 PPR points. So hopefully that track record in history carries over here.

But it's a credit to Matthew Stafford. He's got so many weapons at his disposal. You know, Cup has been the star, but, you know, Deshaun Jackson last week and Tyler Higby two games, and, you know, Woods did score a touchdown, but he's using all of his guys. Van Jefferson's playing well. You know, so it's a little bit of a problem for Woods.

So, again, I'll say it week in, week out until it happens. Go have breakfast with Matthew Stafford. Make him happy. Bring him his oatmeal. You know, get him some eggs. Get him whatever bagel he likes, and tell Cooper Cupp to sleep in. If you had the oatmeal that I make in the morning,

you'd pay me for it. I've absolutely mastered it. We would throw you the football, play after play after play. Absolutely. Your oatmeal's that good? Your oatmeal brings all the boys to the yard. It does, yeah. So Kyler Murray or Matthew Stafford? You're going to laugh at Jamie on that one. It's good. meals that good your oatmeal brings all the boys to the yard it does yeah so kyler burry or uh

back to staffer laugh out of jamie on that one kyler or stafford oh i was i go back and forth on this one i'll still say kyler but it's close i've gone back and forth with this one and i've stuck with stafford i just i don't buy that this arizona past defense is as good as the numbers that you're suggesting. They definitely have given up numbers. Oh, they have. They've given up a lot. They've given up touchdowns, but they've also

faced Julio Jones, AJ Brown, Justin Jefferson, Adam Thielen. They've got good young talent on the team. They've got two pass rushers. I'm interested in this defense. They've just had young talent on the team. They've got two pass rushers. I'm interested in this defense. They've just had a very tough schedule.

I think the Rams will scheme it up the right way. You talk about all the amazing weapons. They've got Cooper Cup and Cooper Cup. Tyler Higbee and Cooper Cup. Sorry, let me get back to the running backs in this game. Who's your favorite running back? We don't know for sure about Daryl Henderson right now, but who's your

favorite running back in this game, Jamie? If Henderson plays, he would be my favorite in non-PPR. Edmonds is my favorite in PPR, even if Henderson is out there. Dave? I think Henderson will be my favorite regardless, but I am worried about just how much he'll play because the the concerns

that the coaching staff kind of intimated at during the training camp with henderson manifested itself with henderson hurting his ribs and being out last week so i don't know if they're going to rush to put him in for 70 of the snaps like they might want to do. So he might, I think you could probably pencil him in for 15 touches, that's it. And maybe two or three of those are catches. Okay, so just to finish up on that, would you start Chase Edmonds or Mike Davis? I have Edmonds a spot ahead of Davis.

Oh, Edmonds. So Dave, this you want to look at implied score And this game is going to be high scoring So Edmonds in a track meet should be really good Which brings me to my next question People are going to start DeAndre Hopkins Even coming off a bad game But who is the second best Cardinals wide receiver

In this game I think you just got to go based on how They've performed, not necessarily what the targets have been. So Kirk has been the most reliable of the three. So I would put him second. I'd still put AJ Green over Rondell Moore, but it could be more as the best one, you know? So I just don't think there's any rhyme or reason to who's going to be the best of the, of the secondary trio, but Moore's targets have been consistent. He just hasn't done a lot with him outside of the big touchdown catch.

Green, you know, two solid games with a touchdown and over 100 yards back-to-back weeks. But Kirk has been the most consistent producer, so that's why I would lean toward him. The only nitpick I've got on Kirk is that he lines up in the slot the most, and so he may end up seeing Jalen Ramsey

in coverage the most and that would make me nervous to trust him this oh i wouldn't trust any of those guys but i think if you're just looking at one you just said it and i agree with you that if you had to start one it would be kirk and i think kirk is okay he's okay it's like a low-end flex and ppr i hate that i can't remember anything but i'm reaching out to jacob gibbs right now and he's typing. So I'll tell you what he says, but I believe he had said that Rondell Moore was basically off the field when the Cardinals were leading. That's just what, you know, sure. I guess it was there probably two or three receiver sets, right? So this game could be a lot. They use more 12 personnel when they were leading fewer three receiver and four wide receiver sets.

So yeah, this, this, that was last week against Jacksonville. This could be a much better game for Rondo more, not to say that you start them over Christian Kirk, but don't, you know,

this is the type of game that would be better for Rondo more. Um, that makes him an interesting DFS play as well. Yeah. He's in, he's in my fan to line up. Okay. Tyler Higbee,

I think we've more or less covered it here. Look, this is a high-scoring game most likely, so there are going to be some, like last week it was

Deshaun Jackson, there are going to be some sleepers in this game, I guess. Tyler Higbee, is he ahead of Kyle Pitts and Logan

Thomas? No, but he's getting there. He is for me with Pitts, not for thomas but they're very very close they're bunched together they're right right there he already has three red zone and two green zone targets that's not bad and uh yeah again you want pieces of this what's the green zone inside the 10 it's when you've win a lot of money at the casino i'm in the green zone baby i don't think i've ever been in the green zone if that's the case't think I've ever been in the green zone, if that's the case.

Me neither. I've heard about it. Not a big high roller, you know. If I can find the $10 blackjack table and just stay there for a while, I'll just take that. Seattle at San Francisco. Stat of the game.

Deebo Samuel, eight to 12 targets in all three games this season. We have had four wide receivers with eight or more targets against the Seahawks. Three of them have had a hundred plus yards or a touchdown. That was Julio Jefferson and Thielen. So good competition. And the other one was AJ Brown,

who should have had a huge game. Bottom line is those stud receivers got targets, either did great or should have done great against seahawks so debo samuel brandon iuk are they starts this week dave that's a great stat on debo samuel it makes me want to move them up in my rankings so i appreciate you bringing that to my attention uh i i am a little worried because after week one i think about week one. Okay, Iuk didn't play. And I like Debo. Let me just say this.

I like Debo as a PPR flex for sure. He might end up being a low-end number two receiver by the time I'm done with him. In week one, Iuk really didn't play. The run game did get going. They played Detroit. He had a huge catch. He had a ton of targets.

Week two, same thing, ton of targets. Iuk started to play a little bit more. Now the run game, if Elijah Mitchell plays, that run game should be back to being useful for San Francisco, plus Iuk's there, plus Kittle's getting more involved. So I'm a little nervous about him continuing to get that huge target share that we saw from the beginning of the year. That's why he's been on my sell high list, honestly, since week one. So I'm not going to fight anybody using him as a good flex and PPR, but I don't know if I'm ready to say he's top 24.

Yeah, he's a must-start guy for me. I mean, you saw last week in a game where they were throwing a little bit more. And look, let's give Seattle's offense credit. They're probably going to score if they have their guys there. So 10 targets last week. His worst game,

because that was probably his toughest matchup. This is not a tough matchup. And I think he's going to have an opportunity to still be their lead guy. So if you're getting away from Deebo Samuel, you have him on your team, kudos to you. You must have a really loaded roster because he's been fantastic. Well, that's the thing. Considering where he was drafted, he's probably a tough call for Allen.

Yeah, I mean, you're starting him over Allen Robinson. You're starting him over Robert Woods. This is another guy. I should have mentioned him with the Mike Williams and Cortland Sutton potential and Brandon Cooks. He's easily right there in that group. So with what he's done, with his role on his team, with how productive he's been,

last week his worst performance so far, 5 for 52. So if that's the floor, okay, maybe not the best floor, but 10 targets is something you hang your hat on. Jamie, would you start him or Amari Cooper? Uh, him. Wow. Really?

That's Debo over Cooper. Yeah. Deontay Johnson. Him. Okay. Okay. So you've got them like, you must have them in your top 20.

Yeah. He's right there. See, I think Eli Mitchell actually, I'm not asking you about non PPR here. I think Eli Mitchell actually does have a, PPR. I'm not asking you about non-PPR here. I think Eli Mitchell actually does have a fairly decent say in this because I outlined this on our Monday show. When they don't run the ball well,

going back to last year and then week three this year, I mean, they were horrible running the ball. Trey Sermon led the team with 31 rushing yards. They throw. But when they do run the ball well, they don't really like to throw. And when they throw, when they can't run the ball well they don't really like to throw and when they throw it's when they can't run the ball they they'll throw those short passes and debo is an extension of their run game in that regard yeah like i don't know i don't have his a dot in front of me but i

can't imagine it's very high or it might be high because of the one catch he had against detroit also earlier in the year they didn't have to worry about iuk it was just debo and kittle now if it's all three guys that That's what I'm saying. Yeah, I know. Right, exactly. So, Mitchell... All right, let's talk about Eli Mitchell here. Jamie, you said earlier, if Eli Mitchell plays, then it'd be a mess.

If he doesn't play, you'd like Trey Sermon. A lot. What if Mitchell plays, you don't think that... He's had 17 carries and 19 carries in two games. I don't think they're enamored with Tracer. Oh, I don't think it's, uh, he's the best one, but I don't think it's a slam dunk that he's going to definitely dominant carries like that because he's not a hundred percent. Okay. You know,

if he's a hundred percent, it's a different story. I think he's going to end up being their guy. So, you know, people that are dropping him, I think a little too soon. Um, and in some 10 team leagues are making a mistake because he was, you know, over 95% and now he's down to like 86% roster. So people are happy to make moves. I mean, if you've had to drop, that's your worst player dropping in for Hubbard.

I get it if you need to play somebody this week. But I don't think it's going to be like what we saw in week one or week two. I think they need to get a second guy going. It makes sense for Servant to be the second guy. So will he get 10 carries Mitchell if he plays? Probably not. I'm sure he'd be closer to 15, but I still think sermon is going to have some semblance

of a role and they do typically run on Seattle. They've done that in their last three matchups against them, even when their team hasn't been great. Okay. So who else in this game? Carson's a must start. You're going to start the Seattle wide receivers if they play. Kittle's a must-start.

Has not scored in his career against Seattle. But, you know, obviously you're starting George Kittle. He's top six. Not going to start Garoppolo. Russell Wilson, does it feel like he doesn't have a huge ceiling in this game? Certainly not if his guys are hurt. Yeah. There's concern

about how the Seahawks have played in the second half of their games. Where in the first half, they're scripted, they're making all kinds of great throws, and Russ has certainly buoyed it by those deep shots to Tyler Lockett that we saw early on in the year. And in the second half,

they kind of fall apart. They don't have a counterpunch to what defenses adjust at halftime and the 49ers will come up with something to adjust at halftime if they're struggling in the game. So I'm, I kind of get what you're saying, Adam, that there might not be quite as much upside for Wilson,

but anytime you've got receivers like that and, and the 49er secondary is a mess. I can't help but think that Russ has a chance to get three touchdowns, 300 yards. I just don't understand how Hurts and Rodgers didn't have bigger games. That's what I can't wrap my head around because this secondary is so beat up. But Hurts, I think it was that touchdown pass called back to Rager that obviously hurt. And then, yeah, again with Rodgers, only 22 points. And Wilson doesn't have

great history against the Niners. He's had three big games with 27, 32, and 36 points. But he's had five games with 23 or fewer. So that's five out of eight in the Shanahan era last four seasons. Yeah, I don't know.

Anyway, I think you're starting Russell Wilson, but I'm sure Jamie would start Hurts over Wilson. He's not a top five guy, but he's still a top 10 guy. Okay. I don't know, Dave, if you had a chance to look this up, how often he's getting the ball out of his hands in less than 2.5 seconds. I did not look.

I did not see that. Aaron Rodgers was 16 of 18 for 140 yards with a touchdown on throws under 2.5 seconds against San Francisco, according to NextGenStats. And for the Seahawks, remember Will Disley as a sleeper, especially if Lockett can't play. And if Lockett can't play, is there another wide receiver that you'd look at on the Seahawks as a sleeper?

I think Disley's still a sleeper even lock the place. I mean, you know, now you're, you're giving him all of the tight end work, presumably if, uh, if ever can't go.

And so, you know, the, the target share was even in, in the first couple of weeks, Everett did a better job last week. So assuming that they're maybe behind in chasing points, that should help them in this matchup.

Not easy to help them in this matchup. No. Freddie Swain would be the next guy up if Lockett couldn't play. I would not feel good about using Freddie Swain unless I'm in a 14-team league. You start three flex guys on top of your usual lineup. Right. They could be looking at one and three. It's crazy.

Wow. Yeah. That is a two-down. It's crazy. Wow. Yeah. That is... We thought their defense was going to be great after week one. And man, has it bottomed out quickly. All right. Cleveland is at Minnesota here. Which team do you think has scored more points this year?

Cleveland or Minnesota? The Browns put up, I think it's like 26 points at minimum each of their games. So what do you guys think? Browns? Idiots! 87 points for the Vikings, 86 for the Browns. Embarrassing. Stat of the game.

Wide receivers against the Vikings. Six of them have caught a touchdown in three games. They've allowed 100 yards to a wide receiver in all three games. They did pretty well against Higgins, Hopkins, and Lockett, but not against Chase Moore and Metcalf. This is a good matchup for Beckham. I'm

so excited. I'm so excited about Odell Beckham. He does really well against good matchups with the Browns. There's no Landry. He's got to be a must-start, Beckham. You're wearing your jersey again? Yeah, he's a must-start. Sure. You know what? I'll wear it on the recap show if he scores a touchdown.

All right. Why not? Well, the Vikings have allowed a receiver to get 100 yards and a touchdown every week. I don't think it could be Rashard Higgins. Oh, you mean one receiver's had done both? Yes. Oh, okay mean one receiver's had done both? Yes.

Okay. Yeah. All right. Beckham it is. They've also allowed the most touchdowns, the third most touchdowns to receivers, six through three games. So their secondary isn't as good as I thought it would be. Their pass rush isn't as good as I thought it would be.

Their offense is putting up plenty of points. This should be a game where Mayfield throws a little bit more than usual, and Beckham looked really good last week. Yeah, let's be a little bit fair to the Vikings. They have faced the Bengals, the Cardinals, and the Seahawks, so they have faced teams with

multiple really good wide receivers. But I think the thing that you were looking to see is no Jarvis Landry, how would Baker lean on him? And he leaned on him quite a bit. Yes. All right, Baker Mayfield as much as dave made a case from earlier he's not a top 20 guy we know what it is uh just he's a dfs play sure nick chubb's a must start and kareem hunt is is basically looking like that right now he's top 20 for both of you he's more like 24 or 5 for heath but he's a start. Would you start Kareem Hunt or Miles Gaskin?

Hunt. Kareem Hunt or Robert Woods? I may have asked you that earlier. Sorry, but Hunt or Woods? I have Woods higher. In PPR. Yeah, Kareem Hunt. Hunt or David Montgomery?

Monty. Montgomery. Odell Beckham must start. You guys do not have Austin Hooper as a start. Sit him. Shame on us. Kirk Cousins is top 12. Cousins or Wilson this week?

Wilson. I have Wilson ahead of him as of now but if Lockett's not playing okay Alexander Madison or Cook you're going to start them this has been a very tough

defense run defense so far 2.96 yards per carry to running backs Clyde Edwards Houston and David Montgomery I don't know how much to take away from that but you just you know the volume is going to be there but we'll see how they do okay the Minnesota wide receivers I mean this is you know this is easy you start Jefferson what about Thielen I mean Dave are we are we totally in on Thielen he's been

touchdown dependent the last two weeks that's okay he. He scores them. That's good. And the weakness of this Cleveland defense is still in their secondary. Dylan is a good football player. Uh, I feel like I'd have to, you know, it's like trying to catch a knife being dropped from the third floor of a building to say, Oh,

this is the week to stay away from out of the island. I'm not saying that. I wish the secondary wasn't weak that they have the personnel and they've, they've, they've been good other than Tyree kill and Brandon cooks, both of them. Right. I wish the secondary wasn't weak, that they have the personnel. They've been good other than Tyreek Hill and Brandon Cooks. Both of them have good games. Weak in comparison to their run defense, which has been, I think, pretty good. Their pass rush has been...

You already know that. Who's more likely to have a good game, Tyler Conklin or KJ Osborne? Conklin's hurt, so we'll see how that goes for him. He's been dealing with an elbow injury. He practiced on a limited basis Thursday after not practicing on Wednesday, so trending in the

right direction. I mean, you've got to look at just body of work right now, and Osborne's first two games were better than Conklin's first two games, and Conklin just had the better third game. I think you lean toward Osborne, but I don't think either guy's a must-start play. You know, you'd like to have Osborne on your bench

just in case, you know, he's still a thing. And if you're in a tight end, needy situation, you'd like to have Conklin on your bench to see if he's a thing. But that's going to be, I think, one of those two weeks for this guy, one week for that guy, two weeks for the other guy, one week for the next guy. You know, that's just the nature of this offense.

In a couple of leagues where I'm thin at receiver because Jerry Judy got hurt, I'm leaning on Osborne. I think the Vikings will have to use three receivers quite a bit in this game. Detroit... I think they'll want to use three receivers. Sorry. Sit the DSTs. Detroit at Chicago. Yeah, Conklin might have to chip a little bit more

on this pass rush. Yeah, it's true. All right, Detroit at Chicago. I think we've covered David Montgomery and Alan Robinson probably enough, but Montgomery's top 14 in non-PPR, top 16 in full PPR. And this is still a really easy run defense, even if the Ravens didn't seem to think so. An easy team to run on.

It's going to annoy me for a long time. To be fair, they did a nice job against Aaron Jones. 17 carries, 67 yards. I don't remember if Jones did anything in the passing game in that week. Three touchdowns. If they're as bad as they were in week three, it's not going to matter who they're

playing, I suppose. Start Montgomery. Robinson, give me your expected stat line. How many yards? How many receiving yards for Allen Robinson? Jamie, give me your expected stat line. How many yards? How many receiving yards for Allen Robinson? Jamie, give me a guess. Six for 75 and a touchdown. Wow, that's not a number two receiver.

That's good. That's a pretty good stat line. That's my hope. I'm going to say four for 40 and a touchdown. All right. Hoping for that touchdown. Cole Komet, not interested. No.

And then, yeah, how about Jamal Williams? Jamal Williams or Alan Robinson? Who would you rather start? Robinson. Yeah. I mean, you already said in the show that we're going to see a lot more DeAndre Swift. Yeah, that's true. I mean, I do think in the show that we're going to see a lot more DeAndre Swift. Yeah, that's true.

I mean, I do think Williams is a decent sleeper. He's like a low-end number two running back if you're desperate. I wouldn't want to use him as a flex. There is some appeal because he is their grinder. Any Detroit wide receivers? No. I picked up Khalif Raymond in a couple of those crazy deep leagues that i'm in yeah it could be a cfist week again you know so who knows and uh tj tj i got said starter sit

must start sorry all right bears dst they're around 12th they have five sacks each of the last two games. Detroit's only given up six sacks in three games this year. Right. Their line is pretty good. Pretty, pretty, pretty good. Okay. Game of the week. Giants at Saints. Here is your

Daniel Jones stat of the game. New segment. Daniel Jones has thrown one interception in his last nine games, and I am pretty sure it was dropped by Evan Ingram, if I remember correctly. That's not a joke. I swear.

Yeah, I really think that's what happened. He's pretty much thrown zero interceptions in his last nine games. It's wild. Anyway, which quarterback have you been looking at? Only one fumble, too. Only one fumble or one loss fumble? One loss fumble, sorry.

Yeah, I don't, I honestly don't know. I mean, I'm sure he's had more fumbles. I think, yeah,

I think he has had a lot of fumbles actually. Okay, which quarterback have you ever won a 2QB league, Jones or Jameis?

Jones. Jones. I mean, at least you know the volume will be there for him. Are the Giants going to do anything

in this game? They could have no Shepard and no Slayton. They could just have a terrible game. The Saints' defense has been pretty good this year. Run the option. Yeah. So Barkley's like a mid-range number two for you guys and non-people. Oh, no, Dave's got him higher.

I feel like I'm, yeah. I think the Giants have no choice but to lean on him. And without Shepard there, I'm hoping that that leads to catches. Yeah, this defense, though, I mean, year over year, they're good against the run. And so will game flow, game script. Like, I thought Damian Harris had a decent shot last week because I thought the Patriots would actually be playing with the lead in that game because of how bad the Saints offense would be. And he was not good. So I don't know if Barkley's going to have an opportunity

game flow-wise to run the ball well. His role in the passing game has got to be huge, at least he would expect it to be. And so PPR, he's a better play than he is non-PPR. Sure, yeah. Six catches last week. He has a 41-yard run, a 15-yard run, and no other carry longer than seven yards

on 39 carries this year. He's still obviously a threat to score, so you've got to hope he finds the end zone. But if he doesn't and he's not involved in the passing game, it's going to be miserable. All right. So I hadn't even thought about the Lattimore thing for some stupid reason with Kenny Galladay. And I think he will see a lot of Lattimore. So is he a sit, Dave? He's a sit.

And it's got more to do with just Galladay. I can't count on him getting 12, 13 targets in the game. I think that's what he would need. I think he, at this point, he's a volume dependent receiver, but he's running a lot of just like deep slants, post routes, comeback routes, not a whole lot else on top of it, not separating great from play-to-play. There's times where he does. So he's inconsistent, and that's on top of a quarterback who's got a decent arm, but he's also been inconsistent this year.

So I would be nervous to use Galladay this week. And then you just throw Lattimore on top. I'm looking to see if Lattimore has been stationary or moved around, but it just makes too much sense for him to cover Galladay and try and take him away. Yeah, it does. And I think Galladay and try and take him away. Yeah, it does. And I think Galladay is mostly lining up on the left side.

And I feel like that's another thing. That's really annoying. Like, why wouldn't you move these receivers around a lot more if you're the giant? they might now, you know, without,

if without Shepard and Slayton 70 snaps at right corner, listen, he has been stationary Lattimore in week three, 70 of 72 snaps at right corner. Listen, he has been stationary. Lattimore in week three, 70 of 72 snaps at right corner. And week one, 23 of 36 snaps at right corner. Well, week one, they faced the Packers.

So I don't, did he shadow Adams? I don't think so. That doesn't look like, where does Adams usually line up? He usually lines up either in the slot or out wide left, right?

I mean, that's where Lattimore is. Sure. Yeah. So maybe there was a shot. I can double check and see if I can find that real quick. All right. Evan Ingram's a sit. Jameis Winston. Everybody's a sit. Except for Kamara and Barkley.

That's Giant Saints, ladies and gentlemen. DFS for Barkley. I think he's the third most expensive, or for Kamara, third most expensive on FanDuel. Yeah, he's expensive on DraftKings too. Yay or nay on Kamara and DFS? Nay on DFS.

I wouldn't be afraid of him. Saints DST, you guys like a lot. They're top six. The Giants actually have not been such a great matchup, but the Saints have been a good defense. It's hard to see the Giants scoring more than 17, 20 points. Okay, that's it. That's it for the NFC.

It's also the first game in New Orleans. Oh, yeah. They are going to be rocking. They're 2-1. They're going to be rocking. Yeah, that's going to make it worse for everybody in New York. Lattimore, three of seven targets that Adams had in week one came against Lattimore. So I targets that Adams had in week one came against

Lattimore. So I don't think that constitutes. That's not shadowing. I mean, that's, that's right. Was he targeted? Oh, so he had four other, yeah, I don't know. Right. So for the targets, including two against other outside corners that the Packers or that the saints have rather. So I, he might've done it for a majority of the game. I just don't know. I could go back. Do you really want to know?

No, I don't care. Not for now. I do want to know, but not for, not for right now. Can we go? Yes.

We're out of here. Oh, mail. Oh, that was good. Thank you, Dave. Um,

hold on. I'm trying to find the Dave laugh. It was never ending. Good night, everybody. Goodbye, everybody. We'll talk to you on the mail. I'm just going to hit end here. Bye.