Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC): Falcons/Packers/Lions WRs, Replacement RBs and Much More (12/20 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 20, 2024

Reactions from Broncos-Chargers as the running backs surprised us last night! Then we get into the big topic of the week: Replacement Running Backs (7:45). How much faith do we have in Patrick Taylor,... Kendre Miller, Jerome Ford, the Raiders guys and possibly Tyjae Spears? ... News and notes (17:40) and One Question for Each Game (26:00)! Start your Commanders in a tough matchup? What do we expect from the Lions passing game? Start Rachaad White? Jayden Reed? Darnell Mooney? ... Start or Sit for Eagles-Commanders (35:40), Lions-Bears (46:00), Cardinals-Panthers (58:10), Vikings-Seahawks (1:05:00), Bucs-Cowboys (1:12:00), Saints-Packers (1:18:00) and Giants-Falcons (1:21:40) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Please VOTE for Fantasy Football Today in the Sports Podcast Awards in the "Best Fantasy Betting and Gaming Podcast" category: https://bit.ly/3Zxw3uS Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:03 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Welcome everybody.
Starting point is 00:02:26 It is Friday. We are getting you ready for the rest of the week 16 slate. And if Thursday night is any indication, it could be a week of surprises. 25 fantasy points for Bo Nicks started in 38% of leagues. 26.2 fantasy points for Justin Herbert started in 31% of leagues. Gus Edwards with two touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:02:45 Audrick Estimé scoring. It was kind of a weird night, but we welcome you to Fantasy Football Today. Presented by BED MGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. It is backup running back week. It is also blue sweatshirt day. Hello, Dave Richard in your blue sweatshirt like me. I don't know, it's more of a windbreaker than a sweatshirt,
Starting point is 00:03:03 but it's Smurf week, I guess. Smurf week. There you go. Yeah. Our studs could come up small like a Smurf. Cortland Sutton came up small. Quentin Johnson isn't a stud. Stone Smart, you might've started him. He was teeny and tiny like Papa Smurf himself. Yes. And we'll talk later about backup running back smurf and which ones we like this week. What's up, Jamie? Good morning.
Starting point is 00:03:29 Oh man, I miss bad mood Jamie from last Friday. I really thought that was sick. Weren't you playing against Gus Edwards in some of your leagues, Jamie? I was not playing against Gus Edwards. I was playing against Cortland Sutton in one, so that was okay. I won't say who that was against. Me, me, yeah. I was hoping to get angry at a Mazer today.
Starting point is 00:03:50 I'm trying to think. I did have to start in one dynasty league, Quentin Johnston, so that was unfortunate, but I didn't expect much from him. So any take, you know, again, I'm not going to talk too much about the games because we're not really looking forward to the future that much We're just gonna talk about the present But you know you do get the Bengals for Bo Knicks next week you get the Patriots for Justin Herbert We'll see how the weather is in that game, but you love the matchups right I mean so
Starting point is 00:04:18 But I actually I think the running backs to the story here I mean you know as we look at it like a waiver wire show, Jamie, Gus Edwards or Audrick Estime or something, are these going to be appealing players for you next week? I mean, certainly the Broncos guys are going to be appealing depending on what the the Bengals run defense looks like once again. So we'll see if Jaleel McLaughlin comes back. If not, you see what the roles kind of are, you know, that Estime is most likely the short yardage guy and Jovante Williams. I mean,
Starting point is 00:04:41 he had a good day in PPR, you know, he got you over 12 PPR points. So he he definitely is going to benefit from the short area passing from Bo Nix. And he dropped the touchdown. That could have definitely made a huge day for him. Gus Edwards, look, that was – he always has a chance to fall into the end zone when they're down there because he's still going to be their goal line guy. The fact that he had his longest run in five years is kind of telling. You don't want to chase those points for him.
Starting point is 00:05:05 So yes, it'll be a good matchup against the Patriots. Yes, we're talking about situations like Dave and I were just talking before the show. He's got a lot of running backs to replace in one of his leagues. So when you're trying to plug and play guys and Gus Edwards may be on the waiver wire, then sure, non PPR, half PPR, he may be more appealing than some of these other guys comparatively to like a Justice Hill or Ty Johnson or, you know, Amir Abdullah, guys that might be out there for better PPR purposes than, you know, somebody like him. Just remember there's a chance that J.K. Dobbins comes back.
Starting point is 00:05:36 He's eligible to come back next week for the Chargers and that would be a great matchup for him to come back to against the Patriots. And the playoff implications from this game, they're not like far reaching, but it makes for an interesting game between the Bengals and the Broncos. It's definitely far reaching. Huh? It's definitely far. I mean, that scenario you just said, the Bengals are realistic. That's going to obviously be impactful. And that'll be fun to see next Saturday. There's also, is there any doubt that we are now going to get the Harbaugh brothers in a rematch in the first round of the playoffs? Where the Chargers will play at Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Baltimore will win this week against Pittsburgh. They'll win the AFC North. Chargers will have the wild card to go and take them on. I feel like that everything is kind of setting up. The script is falling into place in the National Football League. And the door's been kicked down for Cincinnati. They win this week, they win next week. They've got a real good shot at making the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I know you would enjoy that, Jamie. Yeah, I'm rooting to see the Bengals get in, not to see any of these other teams necessarily fall out of it, but it's more just, I like watching the Bengals. I like watching Joe Burrow on this offense. I know the defense stinks, but you know, they will make any game a game, you know, and so that's the fun part of watching their team.
Starting point is 00:06:53 By the way, you know, based on the fantasy cops that we had the other day about the manager running two teams, we should probably check the Harbaugh parents, you know, if they're going to have the situation of running two teams, you know, if their playoffs sons meet, you know, who do they want to see advanced? So here's the situation for the Bengals, they need to win out this week against Cleveland next week against Denver, and then they get Pittsburgh on the road in weeks in week 18. They need to win out and they need the Broncos to lose out which
Starting point is 00:07:23 Broncos lost yesterday. They face the Bengals next week, so they'll take care of that. So if the Bengals win this week and win next week, then it's beat Denver, or beat Pittsburgh in week 18, while Denver would have to lose to Kansas City, which could be tough because Kansas City, it's possible that Kansas City will have nothing
Starting point is 00:07:43 to play for in that situation. But- Oh, I mean, the Bengals nothing to play for in that situation. But- Oh, I mean, the Bengals fans are rooting for the Texans. Oh yeah. Hardcore. Oh yeah, oh yeah. They're not happy about Patrick Mahomes playing this week.
Starting point is 00:07:52 All right, so the story this week is the replacement running backs. So I am gonna give you several- Isn't it funny though that we started the week with the replacement quarterbacks and now we're back. The replacement quarterbacks, I don't think people wanna start, right? Like the replacement running backs, I don't think people wanna start, right? Like the replacement running backs,
Starting point is 00:08:05 I don't think people wanna start, but I know they're gonna have to start. So let's do the faith-o-meter. How much faith do you have in these guys on a scale of one to 10 or zero to 10? And just tell me briefly your expectations because we have broken down these guys where we will on today's show.
Starting point is 00:08:19 But this is, I think, the most important storyline going into week seven. What week are we in? Week 16, I'm sorry. 16. It feels like 17. Yeah, I know, the most important storyline going into week seven. What week are we in? Week 16. I'm sorry. 16. It feels like 17. Yeah. I don't know. I am so confused. It feels like 27. All right. So I got the Raiders situation. I got San Francisco. I put Tajay Spears on here,
Starting point is 00:08:35 just in case. I got Kendre Miller and I got Jerome Ford. Am I missing anybody? No love for Craig Reynolds. No. All right. So, faitho meters, zero to 10 for Alexander Madison against Jacksonville. Six. I'll be a little lower. Five. You know what?
Starting point is 00:08:57 I'm gonna do this. Faitho meter to get me 10 PPR fantasy points. That's it. Just 10. So, Alexander Madison. No, that's too low. 13. A good game. I want a solid game. 13 PPR fantasy points. What are the rules of this dumb thing that we're doing? How much faith do you have to get me 13 PPR fantasy points on a scale of zero to
Starting point is 00:09:17 zero? We have to give a number to match a number. Yeah, that's not great. Isn't that confusing at all? Why don't we say like a lot of faith, a little bit of faith, no faith whatsoever. Okay, okay. Alexander Madison to get me 13 PPR fantasy points. The smallest of faiths, just a... That's it. Somewhere between a little bit of faith and faith.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Okay, then I have to listen to some George Michael after the show, by the way. Amir Abdullah to get me 13 against Jacksonville. A little bit of faith. Yeah. Patrick Taylor at Miami. A little bit of faith. Yes, a little bit. No, I know. Not really feeling that. It's just that, you know, I mean, you've been talking about how good the Dolphins run defense has been for the better part of the last month. And now we're talking about a fifth
Starting point is 00:10:01 string running back here behind an offensive line that has not done as successfully since they lost their best player. And so this 49ers offense is just not the same. So McCaffrey would easily be a must start guy. Jordan Mason would be a pretty good starter. Garendo would be a pretty good starter. Now we're talking about Patrick Taylor here. To me, he's below Madison and in the same range as Abdullah. We have no idea if he's going to get every touch, some of the touches, third downs only.
Starting point is 00:10:32 We do not have any indication on who's going to be the main guy. They still have Keishon Vaughan. They still have Izzy Abanekanda. They could end up using all three and using Kyle Juszczyk as their third down running back because he's a pass protector. Who knows what he's doing back there to keep Brock Purdy upright. It makes me like Brock Purdy even more knowing that they're just the running backs that are left in San Francisco or Phil. Okay next up, assuming Tony Pollard's out, how much faith you have in Taj Spears to get me 13? Lots of faith. He can get you 13. Yep.
Starting point is 00:11:05 Oh, I guess that's one of the guys we talked about. Yeah. Yeah. Tajay Spears. That'd be great. Kendre Miller at Green Bay. Same as Madison for me a little between a little bit of faith and faith. Yeah, I think he's I've got faith that he can get you 10 PPR. It's he's not a good pass catcher. He hasn't shown us that yet. So I'll put it at faith, straight up faith. Okay, and Jerome Ford at Cincinnati, did I save the best for last?
Starting point is 00:11:34 Spears would be the best if Pollard is out. Ford is the best if Pollard isn't. But Ford is in the same scenario as what we said about Spears. I think he can get you to 13. Okay. So Spears is in another category. He's the easy one to start if Pollard's out.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Pollard has not practiced yet. Big surprise. He'll probably not practice and then he'll play. That's just how it's been. But he did re-aggravate his ankles, so it's worth talking about. But rank the rest of them. So it's Ford would be one, right? Ford is one. Madison is two. Miller is three. Abdullah is four and PPR. Taylor is five. I'd put Miller over Madison because I'm just,
Starting point is 00:12:18 I am flummoxed on what the game script will be between the Raiders and the Jaguars. And so let's just put, if you want, put them as a tie, whatever Miller, then Madison is how I would have it. And then I probably put a duel over Taylor just because of the uncertainty with Taylor don't know what to expect. All right. I'm a little surprised, I guess. I thought with patch, I thought you'd be a little bit more in on Patrick Taylor.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Here's the thing about the Niners. And we talked about this game yesterday, so I don't want to skip it. They have a history of, you know, just this year, looking at Jordan Mason of performing better against a run defense than what that run defense usually gives up to running backs. They're just a good run team. Now, offensive line concerns, I maybe that's it. We have no faith in a fifth round than a fifth string running back, but we had basically total
Starting point is 00:13:07 faith in a fourth string running back and a third string running back. You know, I guess it just sounds like you're not convinced about the workload. That's that seems to be the biggest issue. There's a lot of uncertainty, you know, and again, I think it's when we're talking about what you need, you know, so you you lose a Montgomery, a Camara, a Garando, maybe a Pollard.
Starting point is 00:13:28 You're in desperation mode and you have to think first, okay, who's going to get work? Then who's going to get work in good matchups? Then who's going to get passing down work or goal line work? You got to sort of peel the layers of the onion here and see what makes sense. So with Madison and with Ford, you've seen it. You saw Ford in the first five and a half games of the season, and almost all of last year. You saw Madison in the majority of the season to open the year, you know, before he started to get hurt. So there's a sample size here of what those guys can do.
Starting point is 00:14:02 And then you look at the teams that they're playing for. Well, the offensive line for the Raiders has actually held up fairly well. Their quarterbacks, it's so, you know, like when I'm looking at him and Miller, like the ecosystem for Kendre Miller right now is awful. You know, receiving core is decimated. Backup quarterback or third string quarterback, depending on how you want to view Rattler.
Starting point is 00:14:21 On the road against a really good Green Bay team, like this just feels awful for everything. It's why the Packers are my number one DST. I think they're going to hammer this team. I don't want to trust Kendre Miller. Meanwhile, Madison is playing the Jaguars at home, again, with his quarterback back, at least one of his quarterbacks back. That feels safer to me than Kendre Miller's situation. Madison, you talked about this earlier, Adam, he may still have the pass catching role, especially on early downs. So we don't know how they're going to use him in tandem with Abdullah. He's not gonna have the third down roll.
Starting point is 00:14:53 No, the third down roll is a very off-defense roll. But he'll make catch passes on first and second down. And so there's a path to success for him. There's a path to success for Jerome Ford. There's a little bit of a path to success for Miller and maybe even Taylor. So it's all a guessing game. That's why we're at this spot that we are. So again, for me, I look at it, okay, who checks off these benchmarks? And Ford feels like the best.
Starting point is 00:15:20 If his quarterback situation was better, I'd love him, but it's not. And so that's the scary part. But otherwise, you know, matchups great. He's been productive, you know, time and time again. So can he be super productive? Can he be 13 plus points? That's the question. Are we talking about that game today? Which one Packers? No, the drone ford's game. No, yesterday.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Okay, I think that I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing that DTR is the quarterback because he'll run a little bit and that could help Ford's efficiency. And DTR is a terrible downfield thrower. And so if he's willing to check down, this is going to be one of his check down guys. So that's part of the reason why I thought Ford for 13 PPR points could definitely happen. Could catch three passes, four passes. Now we're only asking him to total 90 yards. On top of that, he should get a lot of work.
Starting point is 00:16:09 And I think Kendra Miller, listen, I heard what Nick Underhill and Mike Triplett had to say about Kendra Miller. They expect him, those are like the best beat reporters for the Saints that are out there. They expect him to handle the majority of the work for the Saints. And they called it a Kendra showcase. And Green Bay's run
Starting point is 00:16:25 defense has gotten better. There's no doubt about it. I like the offensive line for New Orleans better than Las Vegas. And I think Kendra Miller has a chance to get maybe a few more touches than Alexander Madison. I think the argument for Madison is if the Raiders have control of the game, and obviously the matchup is better, I can't fight that, then Madison should be better. I think it's gonna be close between those two. Kendrick Miller dominated snaps in the fourth quarter when Camara played on the 100% of the running back touches as well. Yeah, but he didn't. He only had one target. So we just don't know if they'll throw to him. But but he was in he was running the routes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:02 By the way, Jerome Ford had 11 catches in three games with Dorian Thompson Robinson last season. All right, that would be your faitho meter. And it's not a Limp Bizkit song, so it's George Michael. Don't call it Limp Bizkit for the replacement running backs. Sunday is a big day, of course, and you can hang out with us in the morning at 11 a.m., 11.30 a.m., 11. 11 a.m. 1130 a.m. 1130 a.m. Eastern YouTube dot com slash fantasy football today.
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Starting point is 00:18:02 News and notes. Looks like looking good for Geno Smith. It is going to be Spencer Rattler if Derek Carr can't start. They haven't ruled out Carr or Camara, but it seems very unlikely that either one will start. Wasn't there a report earlier this week that Carr may not return this season? Yeah. Yes. But they haven't confirmed that.
Starting point is 00:18:20 He hasn't actually been placed on IR, but I would be shocked if he takes another snap. Drew Lock starting, I think I mentioned that one yesterday for the Giants. Aiden O'Connell practiced in full and Patrick Mahomes is going to start. Running back news. All right. Zach Charbonne was limited in practice with the oblique injury. Ken Walker practiced in full? Would you start any of the replacement running backs over Ken Walker? No. I currently have Ford ahead of Walker and Kendra Miller too, but I don't think it's gonna stick. I think I'll end up moving Kenneth Walker up before Saturday. The fact that the it could just flip, you know, so everybody
Starting point is 00:19:04 could be out and Walker right back in. No, I mean that would change. And then you have, you know, maybe a superstar here in Ken Walker again. Tough matchup, obviously, but you know, still that would be the best case scenario for any Ken Walker manager. Could be, it should end up being a top 20
Starting point is 00:19:20 running back this week, Walker. Yeah, he's been bad though, and then Charbonne was limited, so I think right now you have to assume he'll play. Garendo likely out, I don't think officially out, but likely out this week. Same with Kamara. Breeze Hall again, not on the injury report. David Montgomery could return in the postseason. Tony Pollard mispracticed again and Tyrone Tracy was limited again with an ankle injury. We'll talk about him later. T Higgins, come on. He's playing Sunday.
Starting point is 00:19:50 There was a report he's playing Sunday. Yeah. Really? Yeah. Oh, I looked and I looked. I didn't see anything. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:19:59 He didn't practice yesterday. I'll get it for you. This was something that spurred an idea for a segment on our show, Adam. I think you should tell everybody about it. Yeah. I said to should tell everybody about it. Yeah, I said to Dave, I said, Oh, guess who called me today and said, screw you and hung up. And he said, what someone did that. I'm like, yeah, T Higgins. You do. I had about three of my five teams and then Dave, what was the idea for your segment? The segment is called Ding Dong, screw you. Where a player comes to your front door, rings the bell, you open the door, he yells
Starting point is 00:20:25 screw you and he runs away and that's a guy that gives you nothing in fancy. Yeah. You're worried about T Haynes giving you a ding dong screw you. This is from Ben Baby who covers the bangles for ESPN. Even though T Haynes wasn't at practice during the open portion of practice for the media, he did side work today, expected to practice tomorrow, meaning today, and should be on track for Sunday versus the Browns. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:51 George Pickens is out. AJ Brown was limited. Jalen Waddell missed practice again. Rashad Bateman questionable with a foot injury and Nelson Aguilar is in the concussion protocol. Dave Richard, does that make you more excited about Zay Flowers? It does. It should mean that targets are gonna be a little bit more concentrated toward him,
Starting point is 00:21:07 but it also could mean more targets for Mark Andrews. It's still a tough matchup overall for the Ravens against the Steelers. T.J. Watt is gonna play. So, and we know that these tend to be low scoring games. So you gotta kind of downgrade expectations overall, but yeah, if those guys aren't out there for the Ravens, I certainly and Johnson's not playing, you know, what are we expecting?
Starting point is 00:21:30 A lot of targets for Tyler Wallace, you know, who could end up being a factor is Isaiah likely. All right. Maybe somebody we should have on our radar for desperation tight end play. Chris Olave could return unlikely this week probably, maybe next week where they would play Las Vegas. But Chris Olave is 63% rostered and still don't know if Cedric Tillman is going to play this week. David Njoku... That's probably why Carr is not going on air. He wants to play against the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Oh yeah, maybe. David Njoku mispractice again. Zach Ertz was though, and Kate Otten has a knee injury. I think he's gonna play, but he's got a little bit of a knee issue. On the offensive line, I think we're gonna look to see if Tristan Wirfs plays this week. He's missed two practices to start the week. That's Tampa Bay's left tackle.
Starting point is 00:22:16 And I'm gonna skip the rest. We'll just get to the games in a minute here. Although TJ Watt is going to play. Baltimore getting some good news, some bad news. TJ Watt's gonna play. Dante Jackson and Ogunjobi, I think, are questionable, but Watt is the most important piece for them. He'll play at Baltimore.
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Starting point is 00:24:12 Dave Richard. Yes, I am starting Jaden Daniels. I am starting Terry McLaurin. If he's cleared from the concussion protocol, I am starting Zach Ertz. That's probably about it. Maybe start Brian Robinson if I'm really stuck at running back. Jerome Ford's an easy start for me ahead of Brian Robinson, for example. And that's really it. The
Starting point is 00:24:32 Commander's DST, you might have put them in your lineup last week. You were probably disappointed with the end results. You definitely should put them right back on the play choir. Another game of the week. Yeah, the commanders and the eagles. It's going to be a good one. I decided now because it's the game of the week. Hey, wasn't yesterday your game of the week? No, I had what I have for the game. We don't talk to a niner. I couldn't do that. I just couldn't do that. You know what? I was taking back Dolphins Niners. I couldn't do that.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I just couldn't do that. And you know what, originally I thought. We're taking back Dolphins Niners and we're now giving it to Commanders Eagles. Yeah, but I'm not, we might get another one before the show's over. I really hate this slate. I don't think there's a good game on it.
Starting point is 00:25:16 This is a great game. This could be a really great game. It wasn't last time. The Eagles were, the Eagles are so much better than the Commanders, but I just- They are so much better than the Commanders, but that was also, he was still, Jay and Dan was still dealing with a rib injury then it was on a short week.
Starting point is 00:25:29 It's a big game. I'm excited for the commanders. I can imagine how the commanders fans are feeling about this game. Anyway, Detroit is at Chicago. Jamie, how much faith you owe? We have a lot of stats to break down when we get to this one. How much faith do you have in the Detroit passing game? Not as much as I normally do. I mean, golf outdoors, not great.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Jameson Williams outdoors, not great. Sam Laporta, as Heath has brought up time and time again this week, has never scored a touchdown outdoors in six whopping games. So yeah, it's a little bit tough. It has nothing to do with the matchup. It just has to do with the ecosystem. I love it.
Starting point is 00:26:07 The ecosystem is great. Arizona at Carolina, start or sit? I would call him a struggling Chuba Hubbard, Dave. I'm still starting him. I would still expect a lot of work for him. And cross country trip for the Cardinals could be a problem. Not ready to say that they've got to shut down or run defense by any stretch. And who's taking Chub off the field? Raheem Blackshear on some third downs
Starting point is 00:26:32 would probably be the case. Okay. Minnesota's at Seattle. How do you feel about TJ Hawkinson? We talked so much about Bretton Strange and Dalton Kincaid. Where's TJ Hawkinson, Jamie? He's a low end starter. The targets have been hit or miss, which is the issue. Hasn't scored a touchdown since coming back yet. That's also a concern. It's a good matchup. Seattle has been one of the better teams in terms of having your tight end face against
Starting point is 00:27:01 their defense for the majority of the season. Their top 15 in fantasy points allowed to the position. So it's just a matter of Darnold and what they want to do. As we've seen frustratingly, there's been other tight ends that have scored touchdowns since Hockeson has come back. But low end starter, you know, so like him better than K-Dot and like him better than Kyle Petz, like him better than Okonkwo, who we talked about as a free agent. I would have started him over
Starting point is 00:27:26 Stone Smart after Hayden Hurst was activated yesterday so um you know lower number one guy. All right and uh Hawkinson or over Ferguson? Hawkinson over Ferguson. He does not have a green zone target since returning and only two end zone targets so that's that has been the issue no touchdowns as Jamie said. We're also getting to the year mark of his recovery so hopefully things start to get better from that point. His injuries. Happy anniversary. Tampa Bay is at Dallas so I know Jamie loves Bucky Irving, Jamie or Dave rather, Rashad White, actually both of you, Rashad White or Rico Dowdle. Dowdle will get more touches. We've seen Rashad White's catches go down over the past few weeks. And he's no longer
Starting point is 00:28:14 the lock to play at the goal line. What the hell happened? You missed the button. I was gonna do like a fake game of the week. I was just going to play the music very briefly, but I once again for the second time this week, I hit the buzzer instead of the game of the week. I'm sorry. I've had a rough one rough week. All right. You're killing the bit.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I am. I'm killing everything. I got two sick kids. You have your is your mixer labeled? I'm killing everything. I got two sick kids. Is your mixer labeled? No. Yes, but I can't see the labels. They're too far away. You can't see the labels.
Starting point is 00:28:53 They're not on the buttons. So each time you press the sound effect, you're not sure. No, I try to remember. You can't know what you're pressing, but they're not on the buttons, so you don't know? You've been using that same thing for years, right? Yeah, all right, sorry.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Rashad, wide or Rico, down or Jamie? Down. All right, New Orleans is at Green Bay. Anybody wanna start a Packers wide receiver? Not if I don't have to. That's it, just kidding. Who's your favorite one? Still Jayden Reed.
Starting point is 00:29:22 I'll take Dobbs. Giants are at the Falcons. Which wide receivers do you trust this week in this Falcons-Giants game? Neighbors in London. There's neighbors, there's London. And I don't mind Mooney as a high-end wide receiver three, just because I know what Michael Panics is
Starting point is 00:29:43 or what I think he'll be anyway. Just like a downfield thrower, like when he hits the panic button because of pressure, he's throwing downfield. I just don't know how much he's going to have to throw. But I would be surprised if Mooney had one or two catches of 15 plus yards in this game. And hopefully one of them goes a long distance for a touchdown. Maybe he gets involved in the red zone But he's definitely the flex range. I would much rather start London and neighbors Neighbors averaged around 15 PPR points in two games with drew lock. That's not so terrible
Starting point is 00:30:20 Yeah, I'm starting neighbors over London and PPR. I'd start London over neighbors in the other format Just because the touchdowns are hard to come. It's such a great matchup I mean, you know the Falcons secondary has been awful. And so neighbors is, you know, he's going to get targets. I like that he's off the injury report, which is positive. He hasn't had that. Hopefully he stays off Friday because we've had some of these Friday, you know, groin injuries or hamstring problems that have popped up for him. So I still think he's the best receiver in this game.
Starting point is 00:30:42 But I would not be surprised if exactly what they've said about Mooney and maybe Kyle Pitts, we're going to get surprised by something from Pennix, you know, so there's going to be a wrinkle that we probably have not expected and like watch pits, get like seven, eight targets and have a big game wouldn't surprise me. Could you name some tight ends? Like for example, like I'm ready to take the chance on Kyle Pitts over K.Dotten. Yeah. I saw Ron, I saw more Ferguson, like I'm not there yet with Hawkinson just cause I on Kyle Pitts over K. Yeah. I saw Rod and I started more Ferguson.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Like I'm not there yet with Hawkinson just because I like to match up for Hawkinson. Yeah. Right. And I like Ferguson better than you. What? For Ironmouth? No, with Pickens out, I like Firemouth better. Yeah, I do too.
Starting point is 00:31:15 But this is one like I'm playing in one league against Pitts. I picked up Bretton Strange as you know, to block my opponent from picking up Strange. And I'm like, this is gonna be one of those weeks where Pits just goes nuts. So the thing is, you gotta be careful with starting players and it's so weird, you gotta be careful starting players against the Giants, but there's been like two tight ends of more than five targets against the Giants.
Starting point is 00:31:38 There's been one wide receiver all year with more than eight targets against the Giants. Just nobody throws on them. 28.4 pass attempts per game against, that's what the Giants, that's what opponents average against the Giants. That's the lowest in football, tied with the commanders. That's the other part of this is that, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:56 while they want to get Penix going, clearly if he's gonna be their guy, and especially if they're, you know, comfortable and confident that they're gonna make a playoff run, which they should be, you know, they're in the mix, that do they allow him to throw the ball 30 plus times? Or is this go manage the game, we got to get the win. That's the most important thing. And just let Bijan and Tyler Alger
Starting point is 00:32:17 carry us home. And I would not be surprised. That's case also, you know, if it's like an 18 pass attempt game for, for, for Penix, and then we're screwed all the way around. It feels like a 26 or something. 18, I can never... Anybody that's asked me, I say expect 25, 30 pass attempts. All right, how many people have asked you that? You'd be surprised.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I've gotten texts from people I haven't spoken to in a long time this week. Yeah. Coming out of the woodwork. Philadelphia's, oh, and that reminds me, before we get into Philadelphia, Washington, I want to apologize to everyone. I have currently in my inbox 115 emails. Probably 75 of them are starter sit questions.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I usually do a better job. It has been a tough week. I like I think I mentioned briefly I have two sick kids, one of them has a stomach bug. So it has been a crazy week here and I just haven't been able to answer nearly as many questions as I'd like to. Good news is we have a mail bag coming up at 1130 AM Eastern today, 1115, 1115,
Starting point is 00:33:14 getting everything wrong. So we'll read some of them on there. I will try my best over the weekend, but I've, you know, it's just, I've been behind. Anyway, I apologize. I wanna do a better job helping you out in your time of need. Philadelphia is at Washington.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Okay, stat of the game. Jaden Daniels, my, his tough matchups on paper, two games against the Giants, one game against Chicago, one game against Pittsburgh. He hasn't really been that good. 13.4 fantasy points against the Giants, but that was week two. 24.4 points against the Bears,
Starting point is 00:33:49 with the Hail Mary at the end though, struggled there. 24. That was the first game with the rib injury though. Right. Yeah, I mean, we always assign his woes to the rib injury, but maybe he just wasn't playing well. 24 points at the Giants, that was good. And then 8.6 points against Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:34:08 You think he'll hit 24 points this week against the Eagles? 22 to 24. But why did I not? I'll say he gets a 24. I like how he's been rushing a lot more in the last three games. And I think that's part of what helps him get into the flow of the game. It's just getting on the ground using his legs. He's got at least seven carries in four straight games, but he's got at least. It's like six or more fantasy points based on his rushing alone in those past three games. And Philadelphia will be ready for it and all that stuff, but it's still a wrinkle
Starting point is 00:34:39 that it's tough to defend, especially with somebody as fast as he is and as good of a thrower as he is. And the fact that he's already seen this Eagles team once before and he wasn't healthy for then. Like, I think that there's a lot to be made about Jaden Daniels being legitimately one of the better throwers in this league already. Not one of the best, but one of the better ones. And I don't, I don't see him laying an egg against Philadelphia. I really don't. All right. And I forgot the other tough matchup
Starting point is 00:35:05 was of course Philadelphia. He scored 15.4 fantasy points and six point per passing touchdown leagues. Seven carries, 18 yards. Again, he just, he was not himself because part of his game is running and that seemed to be taken away from him in part because of the rib injury.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Okay. The Eagles are, just to give them credit, I think it's like nine games in a row. No team scored more than 23 points. That includes the Ravens, the Commander, like some really good teams that they've shut down. They've been great. All right, so you guys like Jaden Daniels.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Somebody asked Jaden Daniels or Kyler Murray. Daniels. Daniels. Jaden Daniels or Baker Mayfield? Baker. I'd go Baker. All right. We've got Brian Robinson Jr.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Jamie, he was the star of the week. Was it last week? Yep. How are we feeling about him this week? Definitely not as encouraged. I do like the fact that he got to work, you know, so that was good. You know, so it wasn't a McNichols or a Rodriguez coming in there to take him off the field. And we know Eckler's still out for at least two more games, I believe.
Starting point is 00:36:11 No one more game. So you have the opportunity here for him to still be involved in the past game. And for that, for him, it's like three catches. So I don't think you should expect a six or seven catch game from him. He's still going to have an opportunity to score, and he did score a touchdown against them. His history against this team is not great, but I think you throw that out just because you look at the change in quarterback and obviously the change in system.
Starting point is 00:36:33 So I don't necessarily want to look at what he's done prior to this. So I'm assuming he's going to get 18 plus touches. I'm assuming it's going to be three catches. I'm assuming he has a chance to score. Now all those things did not happen last, or I'm sorry, the score did not happen last week. So if he had touchdown, he would have had a 17 plus point game. He's a lower number to running back. I don't think, I agree with Dave, Jerome Ford's in a better spot this week, but I'm not starting any of the other replacement options safe for TyJ Spears unless Tony Pollard's out. So starting him over Kendrick Miller, starting him over Alexander Maddison, starting him over Patrick Taylor, like not
Starting point is 00:37:07 getting cute with those guys. I just, you know, lower expectations for Brian Robinson. He's just one of those guys that will get enough work that should get to that 12, 11, 12 PPR point range, you know, so going number two guy. And just to speak to how tough this matchup is, 3.7 yards per carry to running backs in their past five games, Philadelphia has allowed five running backs all year have had 14 or more PPR points against Philadelphia. It should be noted that Brian Robinson and Austin Eckler were two of those five running backs, but that was in week 11.
Starting point is 00:37:37 It was a short week that definitely favors running backs. Look at what happened on Thursday for an example of that. And Jayden Daniels wasn't Jayden Daniels. And so they leaned on those running backs just a little bit more. It was eight catches for Eckler in that game. Let me read some questions here. Brian Robinson Jr. or Rashad White half PPR. Robinson.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Agreed. Okay. And. But I don't think I don't think it's too far off to consider why just because of how he's been lately. Yeah. It's a digital PPR points. I mean, he keeps catching touchdowns. That's not the easiest thing to replicate, but it keeps happening for a shot. Why? All right.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Terry McLaurin is a top 14 wide receiver and non PPR. I think Dave, you have him 19th, although I think I wrote those rankings on Tuesday. So things may have changed. He's 13th. 13th. Okay. So Terry McLaurin, again, his worst game of the year by far was at Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Two points, two points on two targets, but you guys are starting him. Someone asked in the chat, McLaurin or Cup? Cup. I've got McLaurin two spots ahead of Cup. Sit one, McLaurin, Bucky Irving, or Drake London. Who are you sitting? London. London.
Starting point is 00:38:45 London. Okay. And start Zach Hertz if he plays? He's a borderline starter. Yeah, he would fit into that group of, he'd probably in PPR, I think he'd be ahead of Kincaid, Kraft, Farramuth, Ferguson, Hockenson, Henry, he'd be ahead of those guys.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Top 10 tight end if he's a- Remember, revenge game for him. He had a touchdown against them. One of the crazy catches of the season, his touchdown catch. So I would, low end starter. We had a one more commander's question here from the chat. Daniels or Darnold?
Starting point is 00:39:19 Daniels for me. I believe I have Darnold one spot below Daniels. Okay. Start hurts, start Barkley, start Brown. Jamie starters at Devante Smith. Start, I mean, you know, targets have been there the last two weeks. He's coming off a huge game score,
Starting point is 00:39:34 touchdown and back to back games. So again, we have the situation that we like. One of the big three in the passing game is missing. And so no Dallas got her, he steps up. So you just wonder if if the the same game plan is in place you know to go out there and throw the ball over the place like we saw last week I can't imagine that they go skew too far the other direction it's all a sake one-barclay game so you get a mix and I
Starting point is 00:39:56 think you know just looking at what Devante Smith has done he's not a top 20 wide receiver for me but he's in that group of you know wide receiver 20 through wide receiver 27 28 I think he's in that group of wide receiver 20 through wide receiver 27, 28. I think he's a very safe number to receive. If you're expecting a high scoring game, Devontae Smith should be a top 20 wide receiver. But when's the last time we had great games from everybody in Philadelphia where Hertz goes off, Barkley goes off, Brown goes off, Smith goes off? I mean, we came close to it last week.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I think the question is relevant. The question is not relevant to starting these guys because you just have to start. You're hoping that you hit it with Smith. But you've got it right. He's a low end number two wide receiver. It's very relevant for Smith. I mean, it's not relevant for the other guys.
Starting point is 00:40:42 But look. But when he's rolling though, I mean you're starting, most people start him regardless. He's not really rolling. Last week, he said the targets were there two straight weeks, he had 12 last week, he had six the week before. It's just a matter of Jalen-
Starting point is 00:40:53 That's a good target share for what the situation was. It's a good target share, but when they're throwing 21 times a game, he's not gonna get that many targets. He and AJ Brown can be disappointing. If they throw 31, which I think they did last week, then oh my gosh, yeah of course I, I'd start to Bonte Smith. I just don't know what they're going to do.
Starting point is 00:41:06 They basically gave a they ding dong screw you to the media last week. This is the media was questioning if they can pass the ball. They said, hey, guess what? We can pass the ball. If they go back to running the ball and being the most run heavy team and the least pass every team in football, then I think Smith might let you down. But I think you have to take the chance. Right. And that's the thing. You have to take. But you guys have you don't have him ranked in the top 15 or anything. No, that's what I'm saying. He's in that, you know, questionable
Starting point is 00:41:31 range. Yeah. So, you know, with the Bears guys, the top two Bears guys of DJ Moore and Kenan Allen with Khalil Shakir with Zay Flowers, you know, there's there's a handful of guys that are really good that we can't unfortunately rank all of them in the top 24. And he's just one of those guys. I think he's, like I said, to me he's a number two receiver. Two of the top two games out of 10 this year where all of Barkley Brown and Devontae Smith have had at least 14 PPR points each. And they were in weeks one and two. So I feel like someone's gonna get left holding the bag here. Well, they also haven't played
Starting point is 00:42:10 many games together though, the three of them. Well, they've played 10. And this is one of those games where Goddard's out, there hasn't been that many games where Goddard's out and those three have played. I think it's like four, five, five. All right, let me finish up. And none of the five have all three gone off.
Starting point is 00:42:24 So I think you just have to theorize that, you're hoping that Devontae Smith has a couple of big catches. Some chat questions, Khalil Shakir or Devontae Smith PPR? It's so tough for me on this one. I'd lean Shakir, but they're close. Right, but I think the upside for Devontae is better than the upside for Shakir.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Yeah, the last two weeks has been pretty good for Shakira. It's been good. I don't know how much throwing are they going to do in this game? JSN or Smith? JSN. I've got, I've got JSN higher. And any interesting grand calcaterra? Real quick.
Starting point is 00:42:57 Desperation at best. And you like the Eagles DST? Low end starter. I would start the bangles over them. I would start the Packers over them. I would start the Packers, Falcons. Packers, Falcons. I'd start the Falcons.
Starting point is 00:43:09 Alright, Detroit's at Chicago. Let's do this game. Yeah, I'm excited for this one. Because I have no idea what it's gonna be like. Just no idea. I have four reasons to start Jared Goff and I have four reasons to sit Jared Goff. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Reasons to start Jared golf. He has scored 28 or more points in three of his last five games. He has eight touchdown. Yeah, that's good. He has eight touchdown passes in his last two games. That's good. The Froggit is also cursed. That's bad. David Montgomery is out.
Starting point is 00:43:43 I don't know if that's good, but I don't know if that's good, but. I don't know if that's necessarily good. Chicago has allowed or had allowed 20 to 26 fantasy points to a quarterback in four straight games before last week when Sam Darnold struggled. And they should have allowed 20 to Sam Darnold. Remember Justin Jefferson dropped a pass right in front of the end zone. I remember.
Starting point is 00:44:02 All right, reasons. It changed a lot for both of us, my man. Reasons to sit Jared Goff. In three games in 2023 without David Montgomery, Detroit had a 51.6%, 80.6% and 46.9% pass rate. So very low in two or three games, very high in a 38 to six loss at Baltimore. That's number one.
Starting point is 00:44:22 Number two, no quarterback has had a huge game against the Bears this year. Number three, Jared Goff outdoors in December with Detroit. One great game at Carolina. I don't even know if it was cold and four terrible games. It was. It was under 50 degrees. It wasn't like it was. I probably wasn't in the 20s. And reason number four to sit Jared Goff, Jared Goff, when Detroit gives up 20 or fewer points, nine games, two huge games at Dallas and Jacksonville and twenty one point five points or fewer in the other seven games, including four of nine games when when the Lions haven't given up more than 20
Starting point is 00:45:02 points with 14 or fewer fantasy points for golf. So what wins, the reasons to start them or the reasons to sit them? I wanna give you one more reason to sit them. Yes, hit me. As notch north of 21 fantasy points once in seven meetings against Chicago since he's gone to Detroit and it was at Ford Field.
Starting point is 00:45:21 And he's also played 18 career games outdoors when it's been 50 degrees or colder. He's been north of 20 fantasy points three times. It's one of eight with Detroit with that one game being the Carolina game that you mentioned earlier. This is this is not ideal for Jared Goff. It's tough timing for fantasy managers. All that being said, I know what his upset is, I know what he's capable of doing this Bears defense is awful and I think that you could see Jericho still come through with between
Starting point is 00:45:52 18 to 22 fantasy points. He is a low-end top 12 fantasy quarterback for me who I'm currently starting ahead of Kyler Murray, Aaron Rodgers, Brock Purdy, Tua Tunga Bailoa and Jordan Love and Patrick Moles. Jamie, your thoughts on golf? I agree with a lot of it. I'm actually starting Caleb Williams over golf this week. I think it's a better setup for him. Whoa, my goodness. Well, really beat up defense right now for Detroit. It is, but this is not a great quarterback for Chicago. Well, he's not a bad fantasy quarterback, though. He's coming off his worst game since Thomas Brown took over play calling. And we saw what happened the last time these two teams met. And Detroit's gotten worse, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:35 so there may not be a pass rush on him. Yeah, secondary is not the same. It's a Yeah, it's just, I don't even know if Caleb Williams can play in in cold weather. It's a very fair question, but I know his leg. He grew up in DC. I'm sure he's played in cold weather before his legs will work and I think I'll run a lot in this game too. Yeah, I was actually pretty stunned by your Caleb Williams ranking. I think you have a ninth something like that.
Starting point is 00:46:59 You have and what do you have golf? 12. Oh wow. You move them down. Okay. Does it bother you that Caleb Williams in 14 games this year has four first half touchdowns? Yeah, of course. That's all the point, right? I mean, that's what kind of helps
Starting point is 00:47:15 him is he's throwing so much in the second half. He's bordels in to it to a degree. Yeah, I guess that's what you're counting on. The last two weeks, hasn't he though? He's been 13 second half touchdowns. And that's been the thing is that he hasn't been coming through in the second half in the last couple of weeks. I believe he's getting his left tackle back. That's helped him out a little bit. And listen, there's no doubting that this is a troubling spot for the Lions defensively. But I think we'd be saying that against almost anybody. Maybe not the Giants. Sorry, Adam, but that this is just, this is a defense. It's not going to be, it doesn't, it's going to play with the same type of
Starting point is 00:47:51 effort, but I don't know if the achievement will be the same. The other thing I'll mention is that last week when the Bears found themselves in a competitive game, uh, Deandre Swift had 20 touches and he actually wasn't bad. And I wonder if that could be repeatable. I think this matchup is good for him too because Alim McNeil is out on that D line. Alex Anzalone is not coming back at linebacker. This is a good matchup for Swift too. I've got Swift as a number two running back this week. I think. Oh sorry. Remember Roshan Johnson Oh, sorry. Remember Roshan Johnson, practice in full, probably coming back this week. So Mike debt, the goal line work. But what's interesting, and it'll hurt Caleb. I think we all agree that we would love love this game. If it were in Detroit, we're worried
Starting point is 00:48:37 about the condition, not the conditions, not going to be snowy or anything. We're worried about the outdoor elements, 30 degrees with 10 mile an hour winds according to Roto grinders. Yes, so bad. It also is the second highest total on the board this week. The only game that has a higher total right now is Dallas Tampa Bay, I think. So that's pretty eye opening. So that's encouraging. So, you know, we can talk about golf and Caleb and all that.
Starting point is 00:48:59 But what about the other pieces? Obviously, Gibbs is an easy one. St. Brown's an easy one. But the Bears are always tricky with Keenan Allen and DJ Moore. And you may as mentioned, Swift is a number two running back. Then you got Laporta. A lot of tricky calls in this game, Jamie. Who do you like? Jamie Buehler I mean, it's a very tricky situation, you
Starting point is 00:49:16 know, because what we've seen from the Bears receivers has been them doing well from a target perspective, from a production standpoint, certainly Keenan Allen, three of his last four over 20 PPR points. DJ Moore had over 20 PPR points against Lions they've played three games in very good environments you know with their schedule there three straight games on the road so they're coming back home so we haven't seen this outdoors in bad weather you know so to Dave's point you know or your point Adam can he play in in bad weather too we have to see how that goes you know how they'll handle the cold. Kee and Allen, huh?
Starting point is 00:49:45 Cold weather, not bad weather, right? Just cold weather. Cold weather, right. Cold, not bad. So it'll be somewhat impactful. I mean, my concern for Kee and Allen coming into the season with these type of games, because he's a California guy that's never left the state,
Starting point is 00:49:57 college and pro. He's the North Carolina guy who went to California for college and pro. Yeah, but I'm saying his entire playing career, college and pro, was in the state of saying like his entire playing career, college and pro was in the state of California and in an indoor stadium in California. So we'll see how at least a lot of the latter half of it. So we'll see how things go for him.
Starting point is 00:50:12 I'm not worried. I'm starting him. I'm starting DJ Moore, number two receivers. They've been so productive and getting so many opportunities. I think Laporta is a safe number one tight end at this point. Again, the track record of not scoring outdoors is troubling to a degree, but it's a six-game sample size. So it's not exactly like he can't do it.
Starting point is 00:50:31 He played in San Francisco in the NFC Championship game, had a big game. Outdoors in December, this is a different environment, clearly, but he I think has done it in college and should be able to do it handily as well. Jameson is the one that makes me the most concerned because this is a guy that has not played well on the road. He's had five road games this season. He's been under nine PPR points in three of them. Last time he was at Chicago, different player clearly, but he had two targets, no catches, one carry for four yards.
Starting point is 00:50:58 So he's the one. The one thing that Bears have done a fairly decent job of, and you could say, okay, Jefferson dropped a touchdown, is they don't give up a lot of big plays down the field? so I think that's one thing where Jameson is gonna have to keep up the targets and You saw like what he did last week, you know we're targets were there for him but a lot of stuff underneath if they tackle him he'll be fine if he score if he if he breaks one, you know on a On a busted play. I think he's gonna have a big game big day. But for me. But for me he's a borderline number three receiver at best.
Starting point is 00:51:26 There's one other thing like we're all starting Jameer Gibbs and we've got him ranked as like a top three running back. He told Kay Adams this week that he hates playing in the cold, didn't want to get drafted to a cold weather team. And I don't think it's going to be so bitterly cold that it'll affect him. But I just how many games has he played outdoors in the cold in his career? Probably not that many. So I'm kind of curious how he'll do. But I think he'll get fed. And that's obviously why fantasy madras are going to start him. Yeah, I am. All right. So Kenan Allen and DJ Moore. And honestly, I like Allen better. You like Allen better. Okay. I 20 plus and three of his past past four games He leads Chicago in total targets since Shane Waldron's been fired
Starting point is 00:52:08 He had two touchdowns against Detroit on Thanksgiving for whatever that's worth Maybe he scores only once this time But I like him a little bit about his a dot is actually better than DJ Moore's since the Waldron fire Oh, yeah, I mean DJ Moore's kind of a joke right now what they're doing with him. It's drives me crazy Me too, and he's basically like his yards are awful. Except for a couple of big games that he's had but that they're giving him so many touches though. Yeah, I know. He's got a safe. All right. You know what it sounds like as we
Starting point is 00:52:34 talk to the short catch for a big play. That's basically how he can have a real good fantasy day and against a team that's beat up defensively. That that's possible. All right. It sounds like we like this game. We like this game. We like the pieces in this game. Would you start DeAndre Swift or Brian Robinson Jr? I'll take Swift. Would you start DeAndre Swift or Keenan Allen, DJ Moore?
Starting point is 00:52:58 Alan Moore, Swift and PPR. Both receivers well ahead of Swift. What about in half PPR? You might be able to talk me into Swift over DJ Moore. Okay. And then the Caleb Williams debate, obviously Jamie much higher. If we have any questions in the chat, we can read them. But this seems like a game where we want people in our lineups. All right, we're going to take a break. Not Colcomet. Not Colcomet. We're going to take a break. What did he do? Oh, he had a 5.6 points at Detroit three weeks ago. And when we come back, Arizona at Carolina. He had 5.6 points against Detroit
Starting point is 00:53:30 and he's had 2.4 in the two game since. Actually, here's a question. Swift or Hubbard? Hubbard. Chuba. Swift or Pollard? Pollard. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Goff or Darnold? Sam. Darnold? Sam. Caleb or Richardson? Caleb. That's close. I have no faith in Anthony Richardson. Goff or Richardson? Goff.
Starting point is 00:53:58 Richardson definitely a four point. Goff slightly had a Richardson six. Okay. We'll be right back with Arizona at Carolina.ca. Bumble knows it's hard to start conversations. Hey. No, too basic. Hi there. Still no.
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Starting point is 00:55:15 Buy Dove Body Wash today at your local retailer or visit dove.ca to learn more and order online. Jamie, tell me why I should be confident in Kyler Murray after his 10 point dud against New England last week. Everybody's got him ranked as a top 10 quarterback. You shouldn't be confident in him. I mean, this is being honest. There's no reason to be confident. It's just, it's a good matchup.
Starting point is 00:55:39 Look, he's had, he had a bad game two games ago, still got you over 20 fantasy points. He's got to start running again to help us. I don't know if that's what they want in the offense, but if he's going to help us, he's going to be with his legs. You've seen this Panthers defense now struggle time and time again. And Cooper Rush, for example, just threw three touchdowns against them. So there's an opportunity here for Kyler Murray to still make plays throwing the ball.
Starting point is 00:56:00 So confident? No. Matchup? Yes. Potential? Absolutely. So depending on who you have, like, I'm not going out to get Caleb Williams to start him over Kylo Murray. I don't care what rankings say for anybody. Like, I'm not going to bench him for somebody that's similar situation. I'm not going to bench him for Anthony Richardson, even though
Starting point is 00:56:20 he may have a better game based on a great matchup against the Titans. I'm not going to bench him for Cooper Rush or a no Connell and these guys like you know, we talked about this on Sunday, you know, you said, Can you replace him? You want to make case for Rogers? I don't love it. So you can go that route. But to me, Kyler Murray has an opportunity here to play well. Dave, who's the best wide receiver in this game?
Starting point is 00:56:43 I think the one I feel safest about in full PPR is Thielen. And that's it. Like Marvin Harrison has been a let down and Trey McBride's basically been acting as the number one receiver for Kyler Murray. And now Kyler is promising that he's gonna get Trey McBride into the end zone. So I don't see why we should have any confidence
Starting point is 00:57:06 in in Marvin Harrison. I'm starting Brenton Strange over Marvin Harrison in my other dynasty league this week in a flex spot. I can give you a reason to start Marvin Harrison. First of all, he's had a he's had a number of good games, right? It's not like he's never good. He's usually when he scores, his fantasy productions wonderful. In fact, I think every time and every time he hasn't scored his fantasy productions been dreadful. He has six end zone targets in his last three games. He was terrible last week. He was shadowed by Christian Gonzalez.
Starting point is 00:57:36 He was bad the week before that. Seattle's not bad against wide receivers. This is a great matchup. I mean, number one receivers really destroy Carolina. And then on the other end, we talk about Adam Thielen. Arizona's bad against slot receivers. So these two guys, I think both have a chance to bounce back nicely.
Starting point is 00:57:53 I probably, I guess I would have more faith in Thielen just because it feels like easier for him to bounce back. All they have to do is catch some short passes. I'm more guaranteed. Seven plus targets in three straight games. You have Jalen Coker now in injury report, you know that that might help It was Coker coming back to that impact dealings, you know poor performance last week for whatever reason That he didn't get eight to nine targets, you know, so one or two maybe going a different direction
Starting point is 00:58:15 So that's something I think just to keep an eye on but yeah it It's not like either these guys you wouldn't say our must-start guys So like the group that we talked about earlier, like I like both Bears guys better I like the Monty Smith better Khal Khalil secure better, you know, all these zay flowers, they're they're all feel like they're in better spots. But they're at the tail end of this group, you know, Harrison and Thielen. And so it's, you know, to your question, give you a reason to feel confident about Kyler Murray,
Starting point is 00:58:40 I don't think you can feel confident about Kyler Murray, not expect Marvin Harrison to do something, you know, maybe not have a huge game for him personally, but to do something to impact Kyler Murray because he needs it Jamie there's no question train McBride's catching a touchdown this week Like it's happening. They tried with the shovel pass last game like It should be you know, and I always go back to the the play that you pointed out where the game where McBride had the rushing touchdown, Kyler spins left and doesn't see McBride as wide open as you'll ever see a player in the end zone. If he spins right, it's the easiest
Starting point is 00:59:13 throw he'll ever have. We love James Connor in this game. Chuba Hubbard or Joe Mixon? Mixon. I need to double check because they're both in that high end RB2 range. I do have Mix check because they're both in that high end RB2 range. I do have Mix in one spot ahead of Chuba. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:29 It's in pencil. Chuba Hubbard or Chuba Hubbard or Keenan Allen? PPR. Keenan. I have Chuba a little bit higher. Chuba Hubbard or Adam Thielen PPR? Hubbard. Chuba. All right. What else we got in this game? Start McBride, start
Starting point is 00:59:52 Connor, Kyler, we talked about Marvin, we talked about feeling not not going to start Jalen Coker, right? No, but good guy to roster gets Tampa Bay next week. So another strong game for him, then you'll probably consider him potential must-start guy next week. A rare playoff wide receiver stash candidate. Cardinals, DST, or I know you like the Packers better. How about the, you like the Falcons better, right?
Starting point is 01:00:17 Yep. Yes. Vikings, DST, or Cardinals? Vikings. All right, Cardinals are fine, but there are other options as well. They're 10th, they're a top 10, but they're 10. We got, let me see, any Kyler Murray questions? If you have any Kyler Murray questions, fire away.
Starting point is 01:00:35 But for the meantime, just look, oh, Thielen or Downs? Sorry, I'm looking for chat questions for this game. Thielen or Downs? Thielen. Adam Thielen. And vote FFT for best fantasy podcast. Yes, thank you, Chip. Please do that.
Starting point is 01:00:50 All right. All right. And funny name, by the way. Great question. Yeah, not Chip. His full name, if you couldn't see it. Minnesota at Seattle. Stat of the game, number one, only four running backs have scored more than 12.3 PPR fantasy points
Starting point is 01:01:03 against the Vikings. Jameer Gibbs, Kyron Williams, Jordan Mason, Bijan Robinson. All of them scored 17 or more, but they're the only ones who've scored more than 12.3 PPR fantasy points against the Vikings. Will Ken Walker or Zach Charbonneau get there this week? I think definitely if there's one of them, which right now it would be Walker based on practice reports. If there's both splitting time, like you go back to what was the majority of the touches earlier in the season and it was Ken Walker dominating the majority of the touches. So we started to see before Walker got hurt that there was goal line opportunities for
Starting point is 01:01:36 Charbonne. He's clearly been working in obvious passing down situations. So those things may benefit him if there's a chance of Minnesota running away with this game But I still think if it's Walker back, I would prefer Walker over Charbonne and Walker would be a low-end number two running back comparatively to where he was ranked earlier in the season where he was a top 10 guy most I Don't I don't think there's a scenario where a Seattle running back gets 17 PPR points.
Starting point is 01:02:06 That's how good I think this Vikings run defense is. That's how much I think GameScript will favor the Vikings and force Geno Smith to throw a little bit more. I don't love the matchup for Geno very much at all. I think he'll be under plenty of pressure. And I think the only guy in this game for Seattle who you can feel really confident about is JSN. And so he's the number two wide receiver in full PPR, Jax's myth and jig bug. But I'm not feeling it with DK Metcalf. I'm nervous about how
Starting point is 01:02:36 many opportunities will be there for the running backs. Kind of wish that Charbonneau was, were healthy and that we had another week off of Kenneth Walker. Maybe in that case we'd get close to 17 PPR points But I think that that's a number just too high and I think that this is a game where Minnesota kind of stops I Don't disagree with a lot of that the one thing that we did get this week is the squeaky wheel situation for Matt Cap Ryan Grubb said that he's got to do a Better job of finding a way to get the ball into Metcalfe's hands and so based on the matchup Metcalfe is in that same range for me as the Bears guys,
Starting point is 01:03:08 as Flowers, as Smith, as Shakir behind them, but in that same range. So I think this is going to be a bounce back game for DK Metcalf. I can't sit here and say start him with confidence because of what we've seen in the last month, but based on the fact that he seems a little bit healthier, the fact that Gino is going to play and the fact that they are aware that he has not gotten his touches, we're going to see him get fed a little bit for better or worse. So I don't think that's at the detriment of JSN. I do think this could be a back and forth game. And one thing to keep in mind with Ken Walker, Adam, you know, we've talked about this at
Starting point is 01:03:40 times. Remember when he came back in week four? Lions. Against the Lions. We thought, oh man, this is gonna be bad. Lions running defense is great. No, he crushed him. He's great in tough matchups, actually. Yeah. So hopefully that's the case, too. You know, it's kind of interesting, what's I think
Starting point is 01:03:55 hurting Walker is that he hasn't been running well and the Lions stinks. But also they aren't throwing that much anymore. They used to be they used to throw so much and he used to throw a lot to him. They're just not throwing that much. It's what happened this happening. It's hurting. Yeah, it really might. It's hurting everybody except for JSN. Minnesota gives up the most fantasy points to wide receivers. So that could also feed into DK Metcalf having a bounce back game.
Starting point is 01:04:16 And part of it also was they got rid of was Connor Williams, right? Their center retired. Okay, he left. I know their center got hurt last week, but that was kind of the it almost coincided with when Walker went down and Charbonneau took over and the running game looked a lot better. Okay, so. All right, so so Minnesota is easy. You guys, you know, in case anyone's asking the rankings for Dave and Jamie have Jayden Daniels, then Sam Darnold, then Kyler Murray. It goes back to back to back for Jamie. There's a couple other guys in
Starting point is 01:04:50 that mix for Dave, but just relevant quarterbacks we've talked about today. Daniels, then Darnold, then Kyler. And then golf behind them. Yep, yes. Okay. Not behind Kyler for me. Not behind Kyler for you. Okay. We've got Jefferson is an easy start. Aaron Jones is an easy start, right? Yep. Yep. And Jordan, Jordan Addison and JSN. I mean, we have three top 20 receivers in this game with Jefferson and those two guys. All right. Excellent. So Hawkinson, uh, someone asked Hawkinson or Kincaid,
Starting point is 01:05:22 who would you go with there? Same questions from the chat. Feelin or Metcalf. Someone asked, Hockinson or Kinkade, who would you go with there? Kinkade, same. Questions from the chat, Phelan or Metcalfe? Phelan is safer, Metcalfe has a higher ceiling. I believe I have Phelan higher. They're back to back, both low and number three wide receivers. This could be a fun game, this could be a fun fantasy game.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Hoping. Hopefully the weather's okay. Yeah, and hoping Geno Smith is acceptable. He says he could have gone back in the game. Okay. I think that's it. Minnesota's DST is top four for Dave and Jamie and I believe eighth for Heath.
Starting point is 01:05:56 They were one for me. I'm sorry. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. No, they were one for me with the thought of how we're starting. I think I gotta talk more about Ken Walker. All right, so let's say Walker and Charbonne both play. Jerome Ford or Ken Walker?
Starting point is 01:06:12 They'd be very close for me. I would I want to see what happens with Charbonne's practice report today. So if he practices in full, I may lean forward. If he if he's still limited again and we have some questions about going to the week where he's not 100 percent% then I'll go Walker But that's like, you know RB 17 18 range. I think I would lean on Ford more touches better matchup Not not a great situation obviously we hope that we hold more touches right
Starting point is 01:06:46 With the goal line, that's true. Can Walker Ty Tyrone Tracy. If Charbonneur plays Walker. I'll take Tracy. I have no faith in Tracy this week. Just a quick comment here. Quick aside from from Aaron. Normally, I would start Donald but my opponent has Adams strategically, it may be a good idea for me to start Rogers because of this. I'm afraid Adams will go nuclear like last week. Do you guys subscribe to this theory of starting the quarterback that you know, the quarterback over your opponent's receiver? Cancel them out?
Starting point is 01:07:10 I usually don't if you wanted to use that as a tiebreaker. Like for example, I've got feeling in Metcalf back to back if your opponent had Gino Smith, maybe it's super flex league, and you wanted to negate Gino Smith, his impact on your team by going with DK Metcalf then that's fine. But it should only be used in like real, tight situations as far as, two wide percent you're looking at.
Starting point is 01:07:33 Yeah, I think people focus too much on that. Just set your best lineup. You just never know how it's gonna play out. And to answer two more chat questions real quick, we like Darnold better than Stroud, but we like Baker better than Darnold. And we likes to party, we like, we like to party. Tampa Bay at Dallas.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Sorry, I was trying to find my next game. Tampa Bay at Dallas, stat of the game. I don't have one. So I'm gonna tell you that today is Jonah Hill's birthday. What is your favorite Jonah Hill movie? Super bad. Yes, that's the right answer. Today is Jonah Hill's birthday. What is your favorite Jonah Hill movie? Superb bet. Yes, that's the right answer. Unless you consider forgetting Sarah Marshall
Starting point is 01:08:11 a Jonah Hill movie. He's in it. Those are probably the best two. All right, Baker Mayfield's top five. I don't know if you guys want to elaborate on this. Although Moneyball's pretty good. Oh, Moneyball, oh, it's a good call. I can't really sit here and argue against Baker Mayfield, especially when there are every quarterback. Oh, I said, we'll have a wall street
Starting point is 01:08:31 That's a good call, too. I never saw that one That's a movie worth your never seen wolf of Wall Street worth my time. I don't have six hours that movie You watch a billion TV You watch a billion TV shows. No, watch over Wall Street. Baker Mayfield's still not throwing a lot. Nobody's bothered by this. Should I just not waste time? Just start Baker Mayfield?
Starting point is 01:08:51 He's fifth for you guys or fourth. Yeah. The last two weeks have been fantastic and I think they found a second guy. You know, Jalen McMillan has sort of unlocked what was missing with Chris Godwin not being there. And so it's come at the detriment of Kate Otton, but who cares? McMillan has got so much upside. I'm really excited to see what this team looks like
Starting point is 01:09:08 next year depending on what they do with Godwin. You know, if he walks, they don't sign him. McMillan's gonna be fun. All right, why is Rashad White not even in the top 24? He's been pretty damn good. So I struggle with him versus Swift versus ETN this week versus like Madison's in that range, Kendrick Miller's in that range. It's just a matter of he's been so consistent in that 11.7 PPR point range or more.
Starting point is 01:09:40 But like last week made me a little concerned. I know he got 15 carries, but he caught a touchdown. The work in the passing game is disappeared. Yeah, well, that's not throw That's the frustrating part for him. They don't talk because the run game has been fantastic. I know this is why I'm I'm not really worried about Baker But like a guy who's throwing 29 passes per game with seven touchdowns the last two weeks that just screams touchdown regression But I think Dallas gonna score them though. I hope so. Yeah, they're on a roll here and they're not giving up a lot of points. So I hope Dallas can keep up.
Starting point is 01:10:10 And this is big for Rico Dowdell because Rico Dowdell hasn't had a good game when Dallas has been like trailing, you know, but hopefully they can keep up like they did against the Bengals. He did earlier this season. I mean, he was more involved in the past game with Dak. No, not really. I don't think he's had any good games with them. His carries, okay, in his losses, do I have his carries in their losses Rico Daddle?
Starting point is 01:10:33 It's really low. No, his carries haven't built. It's such a weird season for him because earlier in the year they weren't using him to the way that they are now. He's got five straight games with 19 or four straight games with 19 or more carries, you know, so, but they've been in these games are winning these games. In this question from Ryan Rico Dowdle or Bucky Irving. Bucky, Bucky. That's close.
Starting point is 01:10:56 But doubt all over Rashad white. So it goes Bucky Dowdle Rashad white. Question from this game here from the chat or for this game I've seen from Jalen McMillan over the last couple of weeks. Question from the chat. Rashad white or Kendra Miller or Patrick Taylor. White Miller. I might end up with white over Kendra Miller myself. And by the way, I'm glad you're here.
Starting point is 01:11:19 I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I? White Miller, Taylor. I Might end up with white over Kendre Miller Myself and by the way I'm glad you're answering questions from the chat because incentivizes people to join us live on YouTube and when you subscribe
Starting point is 01:11:36 You get to ask chat questions and now you're getting them answered live. Well, I think they're higher too I I think they help put these players, you know in in a range, right? And like this one, Ken Walker or Rico Dowdell? Rico has a no. If Charbonneur is out, it's Walker. I'd agree with that. All right. Start lamb. Cooper Rush is top 20.
Starting point is 01:11:58 He's usable. Cooper Rush or Michael Pennex? Rush. I think I'm starting rushing one of my leagues this week because I'm decimated a quarterback and I personally don't trust Anthony Richardson. So obviously if you've got Richardson, like Jamie will start Richardson over Rush, he'll tell me to do it. He'll try and talk me into it and he might.
Starting point is 01:12:16 But over Russell Wilson, to me, that's easy to start Cooper Rush over Russ. I start Rush over CJ Stroud. The Pennix one is an interesting, they're very close for me. I'd probably still lean rush just because I don't think Tampa Bay secondary is good at all. And look, Rush is doing his best to impersonation. He's throwing short, he's getting the ball out quick, but it's working. And this Tampa Bay defense, I don't think it's very good.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Here's a comment that's just for fun. Here's a comment that's just for fun. Get a good downfield throw to Tolbert. Yeah, he did. Here's a comment that's just for fun. It has nothing to do with starts and sits. Just because I know the histories and the matchups and all that, it wouldn't surprise me at all
Starting point is 01:12:55 if Cooper Rush outscored Lamar Jackson this week. Just throwing that out there. Wow. I'd be 40% surprised, maybe. You know, I was just saying, I think Cooper Rush is gonna be 40% surprise, maybe, you know, I was just saying, like I think Cooper Rush is gonna be around 20 points and Lamar Jackson has never scored that against Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Okay, but obviously I wouldn't even consider it for one second. Can't wait to see that one clipped off on Instagram. Yeah, I know, start Evans. You like Rashad White or Jalen McMillan? McMillan. I would go with Rashad White or Jalen McMillan? McMillan. I would go with Rashad White. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:29 And do we like, see, McMillan or Brian Robinson in PPR? McMillan. Same. It's funny though, like, McMillan's got 13 targets in his last two games. Not like he's getting a ton of work. I know, and for what it's worth,
Starting point is 01:13:43 I mentioned on the WaiverWire show, the Cowboys pretty much never give up fantasy points to a number two receiver. They always get crushed by one. And their defense has really not been that bad since Parsons came back. And you've got a left tackle who hasn't been practicing interests and whirfs
Starting point is 01:13:57 for Tampa Bay. Just some things to consider here. Like they had the Bengals at 20 points in the fourth quarter until they screwed up that punt block. And I think they lost 27-20 or something like that. So a little shout out to the Cowboys. They've been hanging in there. Starter Sid K. Doddon.
Starting point is 01:14:14 Sid K. Doddon. Sid K. Doddon. I would. All right. I think that's it for that game. I think we have two more. This one's the easiest of them all. New Orleans at Green Bay.
Starting point is 01:14:24 Stat of the game. Tony Shal Green Bay, stat of the game. Tony Shalhoub grew up in Green Bay. And he's, I love him, I just love Tony Shalhoub. He has nine siblings according to Wikipedia. So, Sid Spencer-Rattler, Kendre Miller, we talked a lot about him at the top of the show, you can just rewind. Where is he in your rankings?
Starting point is 01:14:43 Between 27 and 30 in the range. He's a little bit higher for me, but not a top 24 running back. Okay. And no interest in MVS, I assume. No, this is very close to a start them all. Set them all. Yeah. I think the only tough, well, actually, you can't start all the packers.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Yeah. Yeah. I, this is very close to a maybe start them all and Packers or Steelers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is very close to it. Maybe start them all and sit them all. This is very close to a start them all if all is Josh Jacobs and the Packers DST. Sit them all if that all is everybody else in this game. Isn't that funny that we expect so much from the Packers, right? But they only have one other than their DST. They only have one layup and it's Jacobs.
Starting point is 01:15:23 So where's Jordan Love for you guys? Right around 15th. If they wanted him to throw, he would tear up this defense. Yeah. Yeah, I think so. Like this could easily be a 202 game. So Anthony Richardson or Jordan Love? I like Richardson's upside better.
Starting point is 01:15:41 I'll take Love. Tony Shalhoub or Jordan Love? I'll take Shalhoub over Richardson. Okay. I think Monk over Love. Oh Monk. But Love over Wings. Where does the cab driver in Quick Change rank there?
Starting point is 01:15:59 Never heard of that. Would you start Jordan Love? Oh, if you like him, you have to see all of his movies. You can't. No, just the TV shows. Bluff Tony. Would you rather start Jordan Love or Patrick Mahomes? I want that to be the last word I say on today's show.
Starting point is 01:16:13 I gotta go, Bluff Tony. No one knows. If you know what that means, say so in the chat, and I'll recognize you in the chat. All right. Good luck this week, guys. He really is leaving. I'd like that to be the last word that I say. Good luck this week, guys. Jamie, my homes are love.
Starting point is 01:16:30 I would go with my homes. I know you're not a huge DK Metcalf guy, even though you've talked yourself into being somewhat optimistic about him. How many Packers receivers would you start over Metcalf? None. Really? Yeah, it's just up to trust.
Starting point is 01:16:42 I mean, you know, Jayden Reed is so touchdown dependent at this point. Christian Watson is allergic to the end zone. Romeo Dobbs is touchdown dependent. Like they're not getting enough targets. And like I said, if this was, you know, the narrative that we had with the Eagles last week, oh my God, I'd be so excited. They're going to come out and they're going to put on a show and Jordan Love is going to throw for 300 plus yards and they're all going to be involved. This is what the nightmare situation that we heard going into the year was. We don't have a number one guy.
Starting point is 01:17:10 It's played out. We don't have a guy that's consistent. It's played out. Tucker Craft is tough. What do you think about him this week? Touchdown or bust. And again, if the volume's not there, you saw the first game back with Romeo Dobbs,
Starting point is 01:17:21 it was scary. And the Saints, for what it's worth, they've allowed one touchdown to a Titan all season. So for a guy that needs touchdowns to be successful, I'm nervous. Aaron Johnson says, David Seth Rogen, Jamie is James Franco, Adam is J, I don't know how to, Baruchel. Baruchel.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Yeah, I get that a lot. People always say I look like him. Heath is Jason Segal and Dan is Jonah Hill. We'll bring that up with Dan on the mailbag. Tucker Kraft behind Brenton Strange. Tucker Kraft or what if the Joku plays or you start crafting a Joku? I'd start a Joku.
Starting point is 01:17:56 All right. And start the Packers, the SC. Giants are at the Falcons. Stat of the game number one. Over the last three weeks, the Giants have allowed the second most sacks in the NFL and the Falcons have the second most sacks in the NFL. This pass rush should be pretty overwhelming based on what we've seen in recent weeks. We love the Falcons DST. Stats of the game number two, Malik Neighbors is averaging 5.9 yards per target in his last eight games.
Starting point is 01:18:21 That is the third worst among 49 wide receivers with 40 or more targets in that stretch. The two guys who are worse than him, Wondell Robinson and Xavier Worthy. And I guess you probably don't care about that stat. You're gonna start him. But how about stat of the game number three? Do you care about this? The Giants have not allowed a second wide receiver
Starting point is 01:18:39 to score more than 12.2 PPR fantasy points this year. You think Mooney gets there? Mooney is very risky Mooney is very risky. He is very risky. You know, there's upside here because of a quarterback that will probably be a little more successful throwing downfield, or at least take some more chance at throwing downfield, for him to break one or multiple.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Big place. There's also the chance that he has four targets and gets 40 yards receiving. You know, so he has now become a boom bust number three wide receiver for me. When I've watched some Darnell Mooney tape, I've noticed that Cousins is just, he has missed him for big plays too many times this year.
Starting point is 01:19:18 Yep. And I think Penix can certainly be better for Mooney. I don't know if anybody can be better for London necessarily because Cousins is pretty damn good for London. As bad as he's been, he's been pretty good for London, right? So. Yeah. All right, so you basically, you like neighbors in London.
Starting point is 01:19:39 How about we go back to that Minnesota Seattle game? JSN, Jordan Addison, neighbors, London. How do you rank those groups of that group of four wide receivers that should be started? Neighbors one, JSN two, no, neighbors one, London two, JSN three, Addison four. Okay. And it's funny, like you and Dave kind of talks sounded
Starting point is 01:20:08 like differently about Tyrone Tracy Jr. But you both have him ranks fairly similarly around 19th or 20th or so. He's a little bit lower for me. But yeah, still top 24 running back. I don't like that he's hurt. I don't like the fact that this Falcons run defense doesn't give up a lot of fantasy points to running backs. I don't like the fact that this Falcons run defense doesn't give up a lot of fantasy points to running backs I don't like the fact that Devon Singletary's role has grown over the last couple weeks and so I'm just concerned like he should have an opportunity passing him here but
Starting point is 01:20:37 Last week was bad Last week was very bad. We knew it was gonna be bad. It was Baltimore, right? But Baltimore has been forgiving for pass catching running backs and that wasn't something that he did. Now, granted, you could say DeVito de Boil and who knows how much that changed things. I think he's, for me, he's behind Jerome Ford and he's in that group of guys that I have a lot of questions about. Brian Robinson have questions about. Rashad White have questions about. Travis Etienne questions about. Upside and downside for all these guys. You know, so there's potential here for Tracy to still get, you know, hopefully 14 to 16 total touches. I don't think he's going to be a 20 touch guy
Starting point is 01:21:14 because I don't think they're going to be playing with the lead. And then does he get goal opportunities because Singletary is taking those away. So I probably have him rank maybe a couple spots too high to be honest with you. I don't really think this game is going to be a blowout though. I don't know how people are feeling about it, but it's an eight and a half point spread. That's that's big. I don't know that the Falcons are good enough for that. I mean, they they kind of struggle with the Raiders last week and their backup quarterback. I think that's the reason why they change quarterbacks is because they did not get the production offensively that they were hoping for.
Starting point is 01:21:46 And this is one of those games where Bijan could go crazy. We could see a defensive score, some shots down the field. Like this game could get out of hand quickly, but it could also be low scoring too. I mean, look, the Giants, they played the Saints with their car very close. Yeah, yeah, they did. Um, all right. So that's pretty much I mean, you know what, chat, take it away. Give me some Drake London questions and Darnell Mooney questions. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:22:19 Darnell Mooney or Macmillan? Macmillan. Keep it coming, people. I'll just ask this. Darnal Mooney or Kendry Miller? Mooney and PBR. And Cardinals or Texans? Cardinals with Mahomes playing. Yeah, Bichon should have a big game.
Starting point is 01:22:44 Um, I don't mind Tyler Algiers desperation. Yeah, I should brought him up. Yeah. London or Bucky Irving? Bucky. Michael Pennex or Jordan Love? Love. Neighbors or Garrett Wilson? Neighbors. Mooney or Jalen Watt? Jalen Watt is probably not going to play. Mooney or McLaurin? McLaurin. McLaurin or London?
Starting point is 01:23:09 London. Neighbors or AJ Brown? Brown. Alright. Neighbors is interesting, I mean he should get 10 targets. That's, you can bank on that. But again, I just wanna point out, his touchdown last week was in garbage time
Starting point is 01:23:21 against a cornerback that, it was almost like a preseason touchdown cornerback that's never in the game. Can you open his game log real quick? Sure. Lake neighbors? Yep. What would you like to know?
Starting point is 01:23:35 Has he played indoors this season? No, Dallas, at Dallas. What week? Week 13 Thanksgiving. Eight catches, 69 yards on 13 targets. And that was a game where CD Lam, I think that was a sun game or now maybe not. No, CD Lam got hurt in that game.
Starting point is 01:23:57 He had 15.3 PPR fantasy. And that was with Drew Locke. It was with Drew Locke. Yeah. Locke is gonna look, yeah, he look, he's gonna get the target. He's better in PPR. I just don't know if you can count on him scoring. That Locke. Yeah. Locke is going to look, yeah, he look, he's going to get the target. He's better in PPR. I just don't know if you can count on him scoring.
Starting point is 01:24:07 That's all. Right. All right, folks. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. We've got you covered on Sunday as well. And we'll talk to you tomorrow with the mailbag on fantasy football today. MUSIC

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