Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC): Gibson? Zeke? Backup WRs? (09/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 30, 2022Is Tee Higgins better than Ja'Marr Chase? Is Joe Mixon really this bad??? What's next for the Dolphins offense if Tua misses time? We begin the show with a recap of Dolphins-Bengals which has Jamey al...l fired up about play calling! ... News and notes (14:55), Beat the Waiver Wire (22:00) and One Question for Each Game (25:10)! How are we approaching the Bucs wide receivers? Do we like Tyler Lockett and/or D.K. Metcalf? How about Matthew Stafford and CEH in tough matchups? ... Start or Sit for Vikings-Saints (34:23), Seahawks-Lions (41:00), Rams-49ers (50:00), Chiefs-Bucs (56:55), Commanders-Cowboys (1:04:00), Cardinals-Panthers (1:13:00) and Bears-Giants (1:17:15) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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All right, Dave and Jamie are here.
I'm Adam.
Welcome, everybody.
We're going to talk about the Dolphins and the Bengals.
And there's a lot to get to here,
especially the Tua injury.
And Teddy Bridgewater came in, did a nice job.
But how about this, Jamie Eisenberg?
Over the last three weeks,
remember T. Higgins got hurt in week one,
but over the last three weeks,
Higgins and Chase have basically the same amount of targets, 25 for Chase, T. Higgins got hurt in week one, but over the last three weeks, Higgins and Chase have basically
the same amount of targets. 25 for Chase,
26 for Higgins. 288
yards, two touchdowns for Higgins.
164 yards,
one touchdown for Chase.
I don't want to do the math, but that's over 100
more yards and an extra touchdown for T. Higgins.
Who's the better wide receiver going
forward?
By low on Jamar Chase, I guess.
You know, there'll be a market correction coming.
But these two guys were great last year.
I mean, you know, people forget how good they were
because Chase had those two unbelievably monstrous performances
at the end of the season.
But for the most part, in terms of their targets,
take away those two games,
the other games they were basically neck and neck to begin with,
the higher ceiling is Jamar Chase. But they both have the same type of floor.
And so they're unbelievable talents.
And they've told us they don't have a one and a two.
They have a one and a one A.
And so the T. Higgins fantasy managers that got discount Jamar Chase in the third round are pretty excited right now.
The Jamar Chase fantasy managers are obviously a little frustrated.
But again,
buy low on Jefferson, buy low on Chase.
These guys are too good to be held down.
Dave, buy or sell?
Joe Mixon is the worst
running back in football.
And parentheses history?
Question mark, close parentheses.
Well, who would buy that?
Of course not.
I don't think he's
the biggest sell-high candidate in his own division. that. Of course not. No, but it's crazy. I don't think he's the
biggest sell-high candidate in his own
division.
I know it looked bad, but I think a lot
of it's on the offensive line. Some of it's on Mixon.
It's on Zach Taylor.
What do you mean it's on Zach Taylor?
That play calling was so bad last night.
It was one of the most atrocious
play calling I've ever seen for the
talented players of the day.
Well, so when I hear that, what I'm thinking back to is just the number
of inside runs that they tried and how they just kept plowing mixing
between the tackles.
I don't have the exact number of how many, but it felt like all but me.
It was a billion.
It felt like it was close to a billion.
Yeah, maybe half a billion. But outside of a billion. It was close to a billion, yeah.
Okay, maybe half a billion.
But outside of that, you had a problem with his play calling?
Yes, it was terrible.
The first drive was awesome.
They were aggressive.
They were throwing the ball down the field.
They were creative.
And then it was, let's throw, let's run.
Let's throw, let's run.
They get in.
Joe Burrow gets in.
He looked so frustrated half the night last night.
He'd make a beautiful throw.
Then they'd run.
They'd get a yard or two. He's throwing his hands up you know you could you could translate that to be he's
frustrated that the play didn't work so you know understandably so you don't want to you know read
into body language but you gotta let a player like him get into rhythm you gotta let these receivers
get into rhythm and then they get down in the goal line thank god you know it was it was a garbage
time touchdown but thank god he got that second touchdown because otherwise he would have been really pissed off with how the night went for
him and so i i just don't understand why these coaches and there's a lot of stupid ones uh that
they get into these patterns these play callers of we have to establish the run throw to score
run to win you could have been running in the fourth quarter that would have been fine
you ran into the middle of the line on the goal line
55 times.
Throw a fade to Jamar Chase. Do something different.
It was just so stupid and maddening. I hate it.
Wow.
Hold on. Mixon doesn't have a game this year
with more than three yards per carry.
You got to sell high on him. He's an absolute sell-high candidate.
I think he could.
But he's getting
so many carries and so many... And he's getting so many carries.
And so many.
And he's, what, four catches a game at least?
7-3-3 and four catches.
He's so inefficient, though.
So inefficient.
I know, but the thing is, I mean, he's comically inefficient right now.
I mean, nobody's going to average 2.7 yards per carry.
You know, so is he sell high?
Or is he just one of the, there aren't that many good running just one of the there aren't that many good running backs
right there aren't that many great running backs aren't that many guys where you just set it and
forget the only reason the only way you're selling high on him is clearly if you have a good running
back you know depth charter or you know i'll say room as the nfl guy uh if you have a good running
back running back definitely team so you know you got to turn him into still something great which
is hard to do because i don't know how many people are going to say, OK, I'll give you Jamar Chase for Joe Mixon.
So, you know, it obviously comes with some context.
But if you can flip him based on name and the fact that he's still been productive as a fantasy option because he's scoring touchdowns, now would be the time to try and do that.
Now, clearly, there's the other side of this where because he's been, as you said, comically inefficient, that maybe some things sort of correct themselves and he starts to play a little bit better.
But again, I don't know if that's on him, if that's on Taylor.
He looks slow.
He looked slow last night, you know,
and you can say the ankle was a problem.
But for what he's supposed to be, he just hasn't been that yet.
Even though he's been getting the workload that we like.
It's the inefficiency.
But I think the offensive line's a bigger problem.
Like, he doesn't look as fast as he once did, but i still think he'd be able to put up better numbers
that the line could block for him yeah they were terrible now on those goal line runs like oh yeah
that was fun but the other ones that he had there were three of them it's just bad blocking yeah
there was one at toward the end of the game where he got outside and he got tackled and it's just like, man, make someone miss.
Make someone miss.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Are you talking about not near the goal line, but just in general?
Yeah, just in general toward the middle of the field.
I remember that play.
But at the same time, all right, I guess here's a better question.
If you're going to draft again today, when would you draft Joe Mixon?
He's still going to go in round two.
Right. You just can't.
You cannot turn down this workload.
And if they're offensive line...
Their pass protection was much better yesterday.
Joe Burrow called it out.
Maybe they can get better.
Maybe they can get better. They're still gelling.
Alright. On the Dolphins' side,
I mean, this is obviously...
Anything on Hayden Hurst?
Hayden Hurst with –
Yeah, he scored a touchdown.
Yeah, 30% roster.
I count on that all the time.
All right.
And Boyd has touchdowns in two of four games.
So throw – he didn't score this week,
but you've got to put him in that flex conversation.
He almost got in on the long play,
and they had an end zone target for him on the first touchdown for Mixon, and Burrow had just a bad throw.
So he's – I said it going into the season.
He's a number three receiver on his own team that could be a third receiver
in deeper leagues to start on a weekly basis,
and he is an injury away from being a must-start player.
So he should be 100% rostered.
And if – let's just say that Mixon never does improve
and the offensive run blocking doesn't improve,
this team's going to become pass-heavy.
Eh, not with that coach.
He might not have a choice, dude.
Eh, he had 20 choices last night
and he didn't decide to use it.
He just, that's his nature.
To be fair to him,
if your offensive line is really struggling
to protect the quarterback,
you have to establish a run game.
They didn't struggle last week, and they didn't struggle
last night, and you could have had many more opportunities
to throw the football.
First off, Xavier Howard, whether he was playing hurt
or just struggling, he looked bad last night,
and they left the game with injury.
Their secondary is not good for Miami.
And their run defense is.
This was an opportunity
to throw and throw and throw and get.
I thought when I saw that first quarter, I was like, okay, good.
First off, they did something, which is another, in my mind, stupid decision.
It worked for them last week.
It obviously worked for them again, so they'll probably continue to do it.
They won the toss, and they don't defer.
They take the ball.
And so Zach Taylor talked about this, that he wants to be aggressive
and show this mindset that we're going to be
aggressive.
Well,
you can't be aggressive for five minutes,
be aggressive for the entire game.
Like,
you know,
don't take your foot off the gas.
He keeps talking about that.
Like we want to be at this aggressive team.
Then be aggressive.
The best part of your team,
as good as Joe makes it is the best part of your team is Joe Burrow and
those receivers throw the football.
Okay.
So let's,
let's wrap it up here to talk briefly about the dolphins going forward with,
um,
with Teddy Bridgewater.
I'll save that for last, and I'll just ask you real quick, Dave.
Is Raheem Mostert the running back to have for the Dolphins?
He had 15 carries compared to five for Chase.
Chase did score.
He actually could have had two.
He dropped a touchdown, and then he caught a touchdown.
But Mostert's only 67% rostered. Do you think he's the best running back going forward for the Dolphins?
I'll say that he is in non-PPRr and it's pretty close in full ppr but neither one is going to be somebody that
you're going to be excited to start uh most are played 73 percent of the snaps that's the most
for any dolphins running back this year and edmunds obviously played 27 percent the smallest
for any dolphins running back this year i don't know if that drop is going to cost him more playing time,
but obviously not in the red zone because he had that short touchdown jaunt.
But Mozart's playing more on third and fourth downs.
He's doing a lot of the things that we thought Edmonds would be doing,
and he's running a little bit better.
I guess to answer your question, yeah, but I'm not excited about it.
The irony of Chase Edmonds is that he lost every touchdown
to James Conner last year, and now all he's doing is scoring touchdowns.
Stealing touchdowns from Mostert.
Let me give you some encouraging stuff on Bridgewater
because we don't know how long Tua is going to be out.
He suffered a concussion, and they said nothing more serious than that.
Guys are clearing concussion protocols pretty quickly.
I'm not going to get into the whole situation with
Tua and what happened last week and what happened yesterday.
This guy's really been so beat up
in his career going back to that major, major injury
he suffered in college.
So, hope for the best for him
and obviously scary to see when
you see the physical reaction to the injury
like that. But, Bridgewater
came in and did a nice job
and he has averaged I'm going to give you the
last three seasons. He made five starts for New Orleans and he averaged 241 yards per game.
In 2020, he averaged 249 yards per game with Carolina. And he produced 2000 yard receivers,
by the way, DJ Moore, almost 1200 yards, Robbie Anderson, just under 1100 yards.
We'll be begging for Teddy. Yeah, I yards. Robbie Anderson, just under 1,100 yards. DJ Moore would be begging for Teddy Bridget.
Yeah, I know.
Send him back to Carolina.
And then in 2021, he averaged 241 yards per game.
So that's 241 to 249 yards per game passing when he started.
By the way, in 2021, I took out two games that he left with an injury, okay?
So, yes, I just looked at his healthy starts,
and I think you have to do that.
It's unfair to do otherwise.
Way to drop.
Come on.
I need a second.
That's just an Acer.
Always crazy, but always fact.
That's right.
That's just an Acer stat.
My point is you could do a lot worse than Teddy Bridgewater,
around 245-ish yards per game, when he's been healthy,
when he has started for three different teams over the last three seasons. So, I mean, is there anything to say here, Jamie? We don't even know
how long Tua will be out. Do you think it's a major step back for the offense if it's Bridgewater?
I don't think it's a major step back. I mean, you know, look, Tua had a great game against the
Ravens. I don't think Teddy has that in his bag, the ability to do that.
But can he get you 250-2 or 225-2?
Yes.
Can he certainly keep Tyreek Hill afloat?
We saw that last night, yes.
I think the Jalen Waddle stat line was probably just a byproduct of how the game went.
So I wouldn't necessarily panic on him.
So yeah, if two was out for a couple of weeks potentially,
I think Teddy will be fine for the receiver.
So you downgrade them from, you know, probably two top 10 guys to maybe two top 20 guys.
You know, Tyreek's still in the top 12 and, you know, a lot of closer to maybe 15.
They'll still be very productive. So I'm not worried about them.
And I think the interception, by the way, was was more on Gusecki than it was on on Teddy based on the body language of of of him.
He ran the wrong route.
Right.
Yeah, probably.
I mean, you know, it's hard to say that's definitely the situation,
but those things tend to happen when you have a new quarterback.
Like, Toronto Armstead had a false start penalty.
Like, you can see, like, he just probably wasn't used to the cadence.
So those are the byproducts of a backup coming in.
But they have extra time now to get, you know,
Teddy ready and up to par for where they want with this offense.
And I thought he did some nice things.
He's certainly capable of maintaining whatever the Dolphins'
offense is right now in the interim
until Tua's back.
Okay.
He's going to be added, obviously, in super flex and two QBs.
Teddy kind of has the
reputation of being a dinker and a dunker.
The deep ball that he connected with
to Tyreek on.
61 yards in the air.
The longest throw so far this year.
Yeah, it's...
And, yeah, he's going to throw a better deep ball than Tua,
but...
I mean...
He doesn't throw with as much velocity.
You know, his ass is hanging in the air a little bit.
That play was good.
Oh, there's a lot of helium bloom, yeah.
Yeah, so, like, that's what... You'll notice it, like, you saw it last night. His ass is hanging in the air a little bit. That play was good. There's a lot of helium bloom. Yeah.
So that's what... You'll notice it.
You saw it last night.
Tuan throws, let's call it, inside of 30 yards.
He was money.
I don't know if you can say the same thing.
How about that one deep ball?
Bridgewater.
I mean, that deep ball he threw to Tyree Kill.
Terribly underthrown and intercepted.
Yeah.
Well, that was longer than 30 yards.
Yeah.
Well, I guess it depends on how we're defining it.
All right.
That is it for Cincinnati 27 and the Dolphins 15.
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All right.
Jameis Winston mispracticed again on Thursday.
So Dave,
how big of a downgrade would it be?
And Michael Thomas mispracticed by the way, too. How big of a downgrade would it be? And Michael Thomas mispractice, by the way,
too. How big of a downgrade would it be to go from Winston to Andy Dalton?
It'll be, it'll be a downgrade in the sense that Chris Olave probably won't have as many
good deep ball opportunities as he's had the past two weeks, but I think otherwise it's going to be
okay. He's he's, it's kind of like going from two to from Tua to Teddy in a way,
because I don't think Dalton throws with the same type of velocity
that Jameis throws with.
And so that'll be kind of a problem, but he can be accurate
and he can manage a game plan, and I'm sure the Saints will scheme it up.
Should be better for Kamara.
That's what I'm hoping for, is that if Dalton's in there,
Kamara gets more targets and does more with them.
Andy Dalton in his last two seasons in Dallas and Chicago, and you can say he didn't have great's in there, Kamara gets more targets and does more with them. Andy Dalton in his last two seasons
in Dallas and Chicago, and you can
say he didn't have great weapons in Chicago, but
he did in Dallas.
He averaged 6.5
and 6.4 yards per attempt,
which is not good. Jameis
is currently averaging 7.5
yards per attempt. Jameis averaged
7.3 yards per attempt last season.
His career average is 7.7.
So, I mean, I think it's based on the numbers, at least you might not have as many interceptions,
but a pretty big downgrade in terms of passing yards, I would expect from Winston to Dalton.
You're talking about a yard per attempt worse over the last two years. Uh, you know, it's not
apples to apples. I get that, but no. And his ADOT was way lower in Chicago. The first thing you think about from last year was how he just targeted Darnell Mooney like crazy.
He was the reason why Mooney was a usable fantasy receiver,
but the ADOT from Dalton was just so low last year.
He goes from Mooney and Komet to Thomas, Olave, and Landry.
It's a huge difference.
No, but two years ago, it was Lamb, Cooper,, Gallup and he was still 6.4 yards per cast.
Yeah, I mean, look, he's not going to be great. There's a reason
why he's been a backup now
for several seasons because nobody wants to trust
him as a starter. But
hopefully he maximizes the potential of these guys
and just the offense is going to change.
It's not going to be a lot of downfield throws.
So it should be a boost, as Dave said, for
Kamara. It should potentially be a boost for Michael Thomas
and Jarvis Landry. It's going to be a downgrade for Olave.
But the thing for Olave for this week, at least,
is that if there's no Michael Thomas,
then he should continue to be a target hog.
So whether it's 13 targets that he's producing 150 yards,
or he's getting 13 targets and he's getting 95 yards.
So he'll still be relevant if Thomas isn't there.
If Thomas is there, then you've got to be a little concerned about Olave,
but still a number three receiver.
A lot of the injuries we're talking about happen to be
NFC home games that we'll be discussing later today,
but we're definitely keeping an eye on a couple
of running backs here. Christian
McCaffrey may not play this week.
They're facing Arizona, a tremendous
matchup.
And Jameis Winston and Michael
Thomas, not at practice today.
Not at practice. Wonderful.
That's sarcasm. I have Michael Thomas on 150 at practice today. Not at practice. Wonderful. That is sarcasm.
I have Michael Thomas on 150% of my teams.
That sucks.
Anyway, McCaffrey.
All right, pick a handcuff real quick.
Pick a running back real quick on Carolina.
Who do you like?
I'll say Hubbard.
I thought he looked better in the preseason.
He won't score as many touchdowns, but I bet he gets more touches.
It is going to be a miserable split
where Foreman is probably going to lead them in carries
and Hubbard will probably play more in passing downs.
I would lean Foreman just for the touchdown potential,
but it's not anything that you want.
It's like the Ravens without J.K. Dobbins.
That's the type of team it's going to be,
you know,
just misery.
Or the Ravens with JK Dobbins last week.
Yeah,
true.
Cordero Patterson also mispracticed.
So we would prefer Tyler Algier over both of the Carolina guys.
If,
uh,
both McCaffrey and Patterson are out.
With,
with McCaffrey got the NFL network report that he should play.
So at least that's the hope is that,
you know,
McCaffrey will be fine.
And, uh, the Falcons team site
is just reporting
that Patterson was resting.
So as long as both guys
get in some semblance
of practice on Friday,
you should be fine.
Dalvin Cook expected to play.
They're in London
facing the Saints.
Alvin Kamara's court hearing
has been delayed
until November 9th,
making it even less likely
that he gets suspended this year.
Tampa Bay says they want
to get Rashad White more involved.
Big game against the Chiefs this week.
DeAndre Swift, missed practice, no surprise.
And David Montgomery, missed practice, no surprise.
And Jamal Williams and Khalil Herbert are two must-start guys this week.
A wide receiver, Gabe Davis, missed practice.
And Amonra St. Brown, missed practice.
And Keenan Allen left practice with a trainer.
So at this point, guys, are you ranking Gabe Davis, Amonra St. Brown missed practice, and Keenan Allen left practice with a trainer.
So at this point, guys, are you ranking Gabe Davis,
Amonra St. Brown, or Keenan Allen?
I had to move St. Brown down before the Thursday game so that everybody that was worth a darn in the game
was ranked ahead of him.
You got to be prepared for him to not play.
And I'm not sure if I feel the same way about Davis,
because did he miss a day of practice last week?
Yeah. I don't believe
he missed last week. I'm sorry.
Go ahead. He definitely
missed the week before. Right.
We'll see what happens, but I would
not feel optimistic about St. Brown or Allen.
Yeah, you don't want to see Keenan Allen
leaving practice.
We don't know the details. No, the fact that they listed him as
limited, though, because I think he left
before practice started.
No, I'm not sure.
McCaffrey is at practice, according to
Darren Gant, who's with the Panthers.
There you go.
Okay, great.
Chris Godwin was rested. I think we still have to
consider him up in the air for this week.
And Julio Jones was limited.
It's hard to do start or sit for that
game when we don't know who's going to play, but we'll try. No. Rondell Moore was limited in practice. But Bols was optimistic on Julio Jones was limited. It's hard to do start or sit for that game when we don't know who's going to play.
But we'll try.
No.
Rondell Moore was limited in practice.
But Bolz was optimistic on Julio earlier this week.
Earlier this week, yeah.
Even last week.
Rondell Moore was limited in practice.
Alan Lazard was limited.
Christian Watson practiced in full.
I would assume they're both going to play, Lazard and Watson.
I think you should expect that.
Yep.
Does that mean Romeo Dobbs is, well, you guys don't even have him as a starter anyway. More of a number four guy, I think you should expect that. Yep. Does that mean Romeo Dobbs is...
Well, you guys don't even have him as a starter anyway.
More of a number four guy, I think, right?
Flexed, right.
All right.
Jarvis Landry limited.
That was yesterday.
Actually, we just got the update.
Michael Thomas not practicing.
So I think Landry should play.
Probably not on Thomas.
As of now.
As of now.
And Jacoby Myers was limited.
Zay Jones mispracticed with an ankle injury. We're going to have to keep an eye limited. Zay Jones mispracticed with an ankle injury.
We're going to have to keep an eye on that.
MVS mispracticed with an abdomen injury.
Mecole Hardman was limited at practice.
Hunter Renfro still out.
And Kadarius Toney and Wandale Robinson were out.
Looks like David Njoku is fine.
Dalton Schultz practiced in full.
TJ Hawkinson was back at practice yesterday.
The Ravens might get left tackle Ronnie Stanley back this week.
On defense, Miles Garrett has a chance to play.
I have not seen an update on Jadeveon Clowney.
Have you guys?
I have not.
Yeah, it looks like you did not see anything.
That'll do it, I guess.
I gave you some injury updates yesterday on defense.
We're going to keep an eye on Jair Alexander, Jordan Poyer,
safety for the Bills, J.C. Jackson, cornerback for the Chargers,
and we will see.
Denzel Ward, cornerback for the Cleveland Browns.
We heard he has a good chance to play earlier.
All right, it's time for Beat the Waver Wire.
A lot of bad defenses with good matchups next week.
I'm not sure if you want to trust them, but maybe
Jacksonville. They might not be that bad on defense
and they get Houston next week,
but Minnesota has the Bears.
Detroit has the Patriots,
but those defenses have been bad.
The Chargers get Cleveland. The Chargers
have been terrible two straight weeks.
The Saints. And now they don't have Bosa for a while.
Right. Do you guys
because I don't do this because of how I build my team,
do you guys actually carry two defenses on any of your teams?
I think I do on two of my 17 teams.
And one of them is the 22-team office league where DSTs are pretty valuable.
At the moment, no.
There are times when I am looking at my roster on a Saturday or a Sunday
and I have a dead roster spot and I'll pick up a DST for next week.
But very rarely.
Yeah, we tell people this every week and I just wonder how many people actually put into practice.
It's not to be critical.
I'm just curious.
Every now and then it helps.
But I've been getting questions about is this guy droppable?
Is that guy droppable?
One of these DSTs is out there
and the DST you currently have
has a tough matchup next week
then you could pick up the second DST
and drop the droppable guy
if you don't want to pick up a DST
by the way I like the Saints
next week against Seattle
if you don't want to pick up a DST maybe you want a quarterback
how about Jameis Winston
if he's back against Seattle
or Ryan Tannehill at Washington?
Or Dalton.
Yeah.
I don't know if you want to pick up Dalton.
See how he plays this week.
You can always pick him up.
See how he plays.
You're not going to start him.
If he's absolutely dreadful, then you cut him on Tuesday or Wednesday.
I mean, Dalton, if he plays well, he could be the starter the rest of the way.
And Ryan Tannehill at Washington.
They are one of the worst defenses
in football right now.
I put any handcuff running back
on beat the waiver wire.
And then guys, I have a big list here
of probably 20 wide receivers
who are available in anywhere
from six to 67% of leagues.
Dave, can I pick my favorite... Can I pick my favorite?
Can I pick my favorite?
Pick like three that you'd be looking to add right now.
Okay.
Lay them out.
Oh, I'm not going to read all of them, but...
All right, in the shallow section...
Wow, we're only 25 minutes in.
We haven't done one game yet.
In the shallow section,
Woods, Burks, Mooney, Gallup, Pickens.
Burks.
Burks and Pickens. Gallks. Burks and Gallup.
Gallup.
Burks and Gallup.
Easy.
In the medium section,
Zay Jones, Josh Palmer, Greg Dorch,
Kadarius, Tony, Jamison Williams.
Williams if you have the...
No, I disagree.
I like Williams if you've got the IR spot
and then put him in the IR spot
and then go get Zay Jones.
Yeah, I assume these people don't have one.
He's had cadaries, Tony.
If he becomes what he could become,
he could be a league winner.
Yes, or he could be what he has been,
which is a guy that is hurt all the time
in the coaching team.
And then you cut him.
Rondo Moore is available.
I cut him when you get somebody else.
Go ahead.
Christian Watson's available.
That's fine.
Van Jefferson's available.
Dave Likes him.
He's 6% owed. All right, one Van Jefferson's available. Dave Likes him. He's 6% owed. Alright, one question
for each game. Minnesota
at New Orleans. Quick take on the Saints
wide receivers, Jamie.
Playing
on Michael Thomas, not playing. Playing on Chris
Valave being a low-end number two guy without Thomas
there. Playing on Landry being a good sleeper for this week
with Andy Dalton starting.
Yeah, seriously. I mean, if you have a
Monterey St. Brown, if you have a Keenan Allen or something, you need to pivotton starting. Yeah, seriously. I mean, if you have Amandra St. Brown,
if you have Keenan Allen or something,
you need to pivot to somebody.
Actually, if Keenan Allen doesn't play,
pivot to Josh Palmer.
But Jarvis Landry should not be overlooked.
Seattle at Detroit, Tyler Lockett or DK Metcalf, Dave?
I like Lockett a little bit more.
I love the targets that he's been getting
the past couple of weeks.
You know what's going to happen to DK Metcalf?
He's going to get Okuda?
He's going to get Okuda'd!
Did you see what he said?
Barra Okuda.
What?
Who?
Metcalf?
They asked him about Okuda
and he said,
he's getting help over top,
so he's doing a nice job.
Both are true, I think.
At least last week.
All right. Los Angeles Rams and San Francisco 49ers
Matthew Stafford 62nd rankings
dispute Dave I believe you
like Stafford you have him 12
I got him ranked top 12 but it's
kind of by default because I don't like a lot of
quarterbacks this week and I am nervous about
what the upside is with him because I do believe
that the one part of the 49ers
that's still really good is their defensive line but I I also think the Rams can work around that. And I would expect, I don't
think the Rams are going to become run heavy. All of a sudden they're going to lean on Stafford,
which means they're going to lean on cup. And I think he's got a good chance to get you around
22 fantasy points. Not excited about him, but I do have him top 12. Okay. And Jamie, you have an
18th Stafford. Yeah, I probably have him too low,
but I will take the under on 20 fantasy points.
He's only been over 20 once so far in three games.
This 49ers defense, I think,
is going to be a problem for this Rams offensive line.
I think they'll make Stafford uncomfortable,
and I don't think he's going to have a big game.
I think he'll be okay.
He still needs some help.
I mean, look, Robinson's been disappointing.
Higby's yet to find the end zone.
So, you know, you find a way
to take away Cooper Cup in any capacity, and
for what it's worth, I know he had the drop in the
end zone, but the Cardinals limited Cooper Cup.
Once again, which is a good call by you, Adam, in terms
of what they do against number one receivers.
DJ Moore. I think Stafford
is going to underperform. He had 11 fancy points in
San Francisco last year, so could have that again.
So then, who are you starting ahead of him
if you've got him 18th? Oh, I would start
Lawrence over him. I would start Mariota over him.
I would start Derek Goff
over him, assuming what the receiving core
looks like there. So like I said, I have him a little bit too low,
but he'll be in the 15 range. He won't
be a top 12 guy. I'd start Brady and
Wilson over him.
And I'm kind of
there with Wilson, too.
It's close between them.
Right now, I've got Stafford a spot ahead.
Kansas City at Tampa Bay.
Which wide receivers are you starting, Dave?
I'm starting Mike Evans.
Feeling great about it.
I am starting Juju with expectations of what he did in weeks one and three.
This is his own defense.
So I do think that he can come through for decent volume there.
And that's really about it.
Even if Godwin plays,
I'll be nervous to use him
because it's his first game back.
If he doesn't play,
then Gage and Julio,
they're in play as low-end flexes in PPR.
Okay.
Washington at Dallas.
Who's the best running back
in this game, Jamie?
Both Cowboys guys over Gibson.
Okay, you like Pollard better, right?
No, I like Zeke better, slightly.
Zeke, Pollard, Gibson.
I have no faith in Antonio Gibson this week.
He has become way too touchdown dependent.
His role in the passing game has been minimalized
by JD McKissick, and this offensive line
is an absolute travesty.
And so,
uh,
sit Gibson.
If you can flex the best
Arizona high to begin the week.
I,
I,
I did like his chain.
Look,
he is scoring.
So take that for what it's
worth.
And I think they'll realize that
they can't run it well with him.
Maybe they give them some more
targets again this week.
So I kind of liked him to start
out.
Okay. Uh, Adam, him to start out. Okay.
Adam, I have a question.
Okay.
Instead of paying attention to us, why are you texting about a wedding?
Who's getting married, Adam?
My wife's friend.
I've got a group text with Nando and one other guy,
and Nando's blowing up my phone.
I said, I'm podcasting right now.
Am I allowed to say that?
I'm paying attention.
I'm trying to shut him up.
Or you could be a professional.
Nando wants to know why you ended your friendship with him.
Many reasons.
All right.
I love that.
Nando's been off our show for like eight years and he's still derailing the podcast.
A true pro, Adam, would leave his phone away from the podcast.
Why? Our producer already texted me with a note.
I need my phone.
What was the note?
It was about Tua.
All right, Arizona, Carolina, do James Conner and or DJ Moore get going this week?
Conner does for sure.
Yeah, i hope so
why so confident jamie uh well i mean clean very good in the work um it's uh you know i think you
just look at this offense right now it's a little broken and you know they they haven't had the
opportunity i think to establish the run game because of how things have gone for them in terms
of game flow so i think they'll try and get Conner going early.
I think he'll score. He's not going to have
a great game, but I think he'll be five catches
again like he was in week one. I think he'll
have probably 80 total yards in the touchdown.
So not a monster game for James Conner, but certainly serviceable
enough to be borderline number one guy
top 15 running back this week.
I'm sorry, I can't support DJ Moore this week.
He had a terrible game against
them last year.
They continue to take away number one wide receivers.
Cupps should have had like 80 yards and a touchdown,
but he still wouldn't have had a typical Cooper Cupp game.
This is what Arizona does if they treat DJ Moore that way.
Do you guys have him as a top 30 wide receiver, DJ Moore?
No.
I'm looking. I got him 40th.
He's in the mid-30s for me.
I don't know if you saw the clip of him yesterday
that's been making the rounds.
He was asked.
It was a little bit of a contentious interview.
He handled himself well.
But apparently, Matt Rule said that
the receivers have to help the quarterback.
And he was basically trying to say
like, you know, in a nice way
I'm open.
I hate their play calling.
I think McAdoo
is doing a horrible job and Matt Rule is not
helping him. Like when you have a player like this
and you even go back to the game
last night, the Dolphins
manufacture so many touches for tyree kill
and and granted dj moore is not tyree kill but when you script out your first drive or your first
couple drives however they they go about their game planning there should 1000 be five targets
going to dj moore in the first quarter get him in rhythm get him going it just makes it easier for
baker and it doesn't have to be 15 yards down the field.
Give him a two-yard pass that he can
turn into a six-yard play. Give him a five-yard
pass that he can turn into maybe a 15-yard play.
Just put the ball in his
hands in some way, shape, or form to
get him going a little bit. And that would be,
I think, a great thing for their offense. It's just very
frustrating. But to answer your question, no, you cannot
start him in a two-receiver league at this point.
He should probably still be started in three- three receiver leagues for what his upside can be
and let's be fair he did score a touchdown two games ago so it's not like he's been a complete
travesty compared to some receivers but he's he's quickly falling into the alan robinson range where
great not great but he's a great player alan's not a great player anymore but you know someone
that you liked going into the season you drafted to be a starter for you that you just can't trust right now.
DJ Moore's problem isn't the play calling.
It's the quarterback because Baker's missing him.
Four of his six.
It goes hand in hand.
I mean,
they're,
they're Baker's not playing well right now.
So how do you make things easier for Baker is you give easy design throws,
short design throws to DJ Moore.
Yeah,
sure.
But they also did a short design throw to LaVisca last week.
I don't know if it was designed for LaVisca because Moore was running around.
Well, I mean, the blocking was set up for a design throw.
Yes, that was a design throw.
Yeah.
And then in week one, there was the deep ball to Robbie.
So they're doing some of that stuff.
They're just not doing it with DJ Moore.
I don't think the coaching staff likes DJ Moore.
Like, fantasy managers like DJ Moore.
And I think Baker's a problem for DJ Moore. Fantasy managers like DJ Moore. And I think Baker's a problem
for DJ Moore.
I don't even think they've thrown 30 passes
in a game this year.
Chicago at the Giants
just start the running backs?
Yes,
but
Darnell Mooney? No.
Cole Komet? No.
I was about to make a joke.
If Dave Chappelle gave the Wicked Witch of the West advice on a sleeper to pick up, what would he say?
I don't know.
Get Richie James, witch!
Jeez.
That was really bad, Dave.
That was a real reach.
All right, Minnesota's at New Orleans.
You don't think that Dave Chappelle talks to witches very often?
I don't
think so. Not about Richie James.
Stat of the day, the Saints are
last. He is good, though. I like the idea
of picking him up. Okay. Can I
go now? Here we go. I'd like to
talk more about...
Stat of the game for
Minnesota and New Orleans. the saints are last in
the nfl at pressure rate 17 percent much worse uh uh what they they really didn't pressure much
in the first two weeks on purpose okay week three they got a lot of pressure okay i think they can
get after cousins all right you All right. You know what?
Why don't you just... Kirk Cousins is top 10.
And start him.
He's not...
He's above this bush of quarterbacks
that stink this week.
Dalvin Cook is a must start.
How about Adam Thielen?
Justin Jefferson.
I know everyone's going to go back to him.
How about Adam Thielen against the Saints
who have been pretty good
against wide receivers so far.
Yeah, they have been.
They're giving up the A3 with fantasy points
to wide receivers.
Jamie, start us at Adam Thielen.
I think he's the number three receiver.
It's nice that he's gotten seven targets
each of the last two weeks,
and he got into a rhythm with Cousins last week.
But this has got to be a situation where,
again, Pepper, you're number one guy with targets.
And so will that be the case?
I can't tell you for sure.
Obviously, Cousins got great production at the end of the game
from Osborne and from Thielen.
And that could be the sign of him in the system getting more comfortable
that I don't necessarily have to feature one guy.
You see that as quarterbacks evolve.
Somebody has a level of experience, should be a little bit used to that by now, but who knows with a new
coach. But in any event,
it feels like this should be a Jefferson game.
I'm hoping it's a Jefferson game.
So Thielen, if he scores, you'll be fine. If he doesn't score,
you'll be a little bit frustrated. So, you know, probably max out
at about 11 or 12 PPR points. If he doesn't find the end zone,
if he scores, could be looking at 18 to 20.
So, number three receiver.
Irv Smith is
17th-ish for Dave and Jamie.
He has 14 targets in his last two games.
That's not so bad.
Saints haven't really been tested, but they did limit Kyle Pitts
to 19 yards on seven targets in week one.
So Irv Smith is not really a starter.
More desperation there.
All right.
I can't imagine you're going to start Andy Dalton,
but would you start Jameis Winston if he plays Dave?
I'm starting him in at least one 2QB league
where Justin Fields has been my second quarterback.
So, yes.
Oh, you know what?
I get it.
Yeah, I think Heath and I probably have to look at that
because we are starting Justin Fields right now.
Did you add Dalton already?
No, I'm not sure if he's been added.
It's 10 teams, so guys are available on waivers.
Four or five every week or so.
He might be one of them.
Yeah, but that's the range that he's in.
He's a, he's a starter in two QB leagues ahead of Justin Fields, but it golf, even do I like
golf without St. Brown better than Dalton without Michael Thomas?
I kind of do.
I kind of do.
I kind of do, especially with the matchup against Seattle.
I might even take Brissette against Atlanta over Dalton.
Yeah, I would agree.
And definitely Geno.
I'm kind of a Geno truther this week. I would have said the same thing about Jameis, too, though,
so I'm with you.
How do you feel about Alvin Kamara?
Easy start?
Love him with Dalton.
I like him better with Dalton. Especially
with no Thomas? I think that's the bigger thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It sets up for him
to have a major role. I would be
disappointed if he had 11
carries and 5 targets.
Alright, Chris Olava has back-to-back games
with 13 targets. He is 93%
rostered. You cannot get him. Jarvis Landry games with 13 targets. He is 93% rostered. You cannot get him.
Jarvis Landry, on the other hand, is 68% rostered.
And you can get Jarvis Landry.
And we're not interested in him if Michael Thomas plays,
but I guess after Justin Jefferson, rank the wide receivers in this game.
So Olave, Landry, Thielen, and I guess I'll throw Osborne in there.
Jefferson, Olave, Landry.
Jefferson, Olave, Thielen, Landry. Osborne in there. Jefferson, Olave, Landry. Jefferson, Olave, Thielen, Landry.
Osborne.
Osborne.
No love for Traquan Smith.
Well, he was banged up too.
Has he been practicing?
He had a concussion, but he's been practicing.
So my guess is that he passes the protocol.
Well, would it be Traquan or would it be Calloway?
I think it depends on who's available. think smith was the first guy in last week
because calloway scored i mean both guys got banged up last week though so
didn't you have to be really freaking desperate to need one of those guys on your fantasy
no like i would rather richie james let's let's focus on olave here let's focus on Olave here. Let's focus on Olave here because he is top 30 guy for everyone.
He's top 26 for Dave and Jamie.
And would you start Olave or Metcalf?
I'd go with Olave.
Garrett Wilson or Olave?
Olave.
Who or Olave?
Garrett Wilson.
I think I'd still go with a lot of over garrett wilson how about davante smith or a lot of a
smith how about a running back uh cordero patterson if he plays for chris olave uh patterson it going to be closer.
Full PPR, Adam?
Mm-hmm.
I think I'll say Olave.
Last one.
Miles Sanders against the Jaguars
or Chris Olave against the Vikings?
Olave.
Oh, Olave.
I really anticipate Olave being in a lot of
start or sit questions on Sunday morning.
Right. I would not expect... So the one thing that Olave being in a lot of start or sit questions on Sunday morning. Right.
I would not expect.
So the one thing that Olave does best is just accelerate downfield.
We've seen it the last two weeks, and Jameis can get the ball to him.
Dalton might be able to get the ball to him too.
I think you take the chance on that, but more importantly,
because Michael Thomas isn't there,
should open up the target volume to remain what it's been,
even though Dalton's the quarterback.
That's why you got to like Olave.
Sorry.
Okay.
And Landry.
Are you feeling better?
Yeah, I am feeling a little bit better.
I slept a little later today,
so I didn't spend as much time researching the Giants-Bears game.
I was like, you know what?
I think we know what that game's going to be about.
I'm going to get an extra half hour here.
Would you start Jarvis Landry over a Jets running back?
I would over Carter.
Full PPR, yeah, I think I'd probably go with Brees all over Landry.
Okay, I believe we are done with this game.
Would you start Kirk Cousins or Aaron Rodgers?
Oh, you have them back-to-back.
Cousins. Who do I have Cousins or Aaron Rodgers? Oh, you have them back to back. Cousins.
Who do I have higher?
Rodgers.
Rodgers.
I think there's a little more upside with Rodgers.
They're both top 10.
Cousins ahead of Derek Carr.
Cousins ahead of Russell Wilson.
All right, next game.
Seattle's at Detroit.
Stat of the game.
Detroit has allowed
17.9 or more
PPR fantasy points
to five wide receivers in three games.
A.J. Brown, Curtis Samuel, Jahan Dotson, K.J. Osborne, and Adam Thielen.
But they also have Jeffrey Okuda, who has been very good
and has done a nice job limiting Devontae Smith,
limiting Terry McLaurin, I believe,
and certainly limiting Justin Jefferson.
With help, with help, but he's doing a good job.
So on one hand, they've been a great matchup, Jamie,
for wide receivers.
On the other hand, they've got a perhaps rising star
at cornerback.
Maybe a little premature in saying that,
but we got our eyes on it.
What does that mean for you in terms of the Seahawks
wide receivers?
I think Lockett and Metcalf should easily be started
in three receiver leagues. It doesn't matter, Ialf should easily be started in three receiver leagues, just a matter of
who you have in two receiver leagues.
I'd give a slight nod to
Metcalf in non-PPR because at
least you've seen him score a touchdown once.
That gives him a little bit of an
upside because typically he's going to find the end
zone more times than not comparatively
to Lockett based on their track record.
Lockett is really locked in with Geno Smith right now,
so it's been fun to see.
And so in PPR, I would lean toward Lockett.
So hopefully that continues.
It's a good matchup against the Lions, like you said.
Kudo's playing well.
But is he the type of cornerback that you fear for your opposing receiver?
Probably not yet.
So Tracy Walker's absence I think is going to be tough for the Lions,
not having the back end of the secondary covered.
So I think both the guys, again, number three receivers,
Lockett slightly more in PPR and probably half,
Metcalf more than none.
Adam Thielen or a Seahawks guy?
Both Seahawks.
Seahawks guy.
I like this, by the way, this team name.
When the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie, that's Olave.
That's good.
I like that.
Just Bob.
All right, Gino Smith, Dave. That's Olave. That's good. I like that. Just Bob.
All right.
Gino Smith, Dave.
18th for you.
16th for you.
Moving up.
Moving up.
Wow.
All right.
Go ahead.
He's given you at least 20 fantasy points in two of his three games,
and I believe the Lions have allowed at least 20 fantasy points to every quarterback that they've faced.
Now, I think the biggest thing you've got to worry about with Gino
is how much he actually throws,
because I think Seattle will try and run the ball a little've got to worry about is how much he actually throws. Because I think Seattle
will try and run the ball
a little bit more
than they have been
the past couple of weeks.
Yeah.
I mean, you can do anything
you want to this Lions defense.
Do you think the Seahawks
can take advantage of that?
I mean, this has been
the best running back matchup.
Oh, we have a homecoming game.
Who's that?
The Michigan State guy going back.
Well, he's not from Detroit.
Ken Walker?
Doesn't matter.
It's a college homecoming game.
Oh, it's an hour and a half away.
Yeah, I mean, do you like...
It's the Ken Walker game.
Let's go.
Do you like Rashad Penny?
I think Penny's okay.
I do.
I like Penny.
The problem with Penny is,
is he going to give you another empty game?
So it's a great matchup.
I think he's definitely worth starting as at least a flex.
Probably comes down to what your lineup looks like.
So if you couldn't get your hands on Jamal Williams
or Cleo Herbert, he's a great fallback option.
You know, to replace DeAndre Swift and David Montgomery.
But, you know, we've seen now two games of minimal work in the passing game so maybe that changes travis homer we've seen him get off to good
starts and they're playing with the lead against the broncos and he was averaging five yards per
carry but uh nothing close to the end zone so it's just a matter of you know will this be the game
where he finally cracks through and breaks out or is this the ken walker game it could be a fun one
for him i don't think so well he still ran with hesitation
he was tentative last week and he also had probably the best one of the season
and remember homer was second homer by the way yeah he's on ir but he only has four targets this
year they all came in week two uh detroit though, I mean, I update this stat every week, and we'll update it again,
because it happened again. It's now
16 of their last 20 games, where
they have allowed 94 rushing yards
or a rushing touchdown to a running
back. Last week, it was
Alexander, both Cook and Madison
scoring touchdowns, and Cook
also got to the 94 rushing yard mark.
He had 96 yards. So, again,
16 of the last 20 games since the start of 2021,
that the lions have allowed 94 rushing yards or rushing touchdown to a
running back.
They are an incredible,
I think that's ending this week,
by the way.
I wonder what the line will look like.
If St.
Brown is out and I guess we'll have to see what happens with Charkin with,
with Josh Reynolds also,
because both those guys are banged up.
But if the receiving core is just bare right now, does the line change?
Because the Lions are five-and-a-half-point favorites,
which is kind of strange.
Yeah, we've got to talk about the Lions receivers.
I think we're just about done with the Seahawks unless you wanted to say –
would anybody start Geno Smith over Stafford?
I'm not there yet.
Would you start Gino Smith?
Who's the best quarterback in this game, Goff or Smith?
I think it's
Gino if there's no St. Brown.
I'll still take Goff.
Okay, and then
for the
Lions. All right, so Goff is
actually 12th for
Heath, and he's
16th for Jamie and 20th for Dave.
Jamal Williams is a must start.
Not even going to get it.
He's the start of the week.
Dave's not quite as high on Jamal Williams,
and he has him 13th.
So start Jamal Williams.
Seahawks are an incredible matchup.
These two teams are such great matchups for running backs.
Wide receivers.
All right, give me the scenario,
Jamie, if Amonra St. Brown plays and
if he doesn't.
St. Brown's a must start, obviously, if he plays.
If he's out, you've got to keep an eye on
both. Both Chark and Reynolds have been banged up.
Reynolds was limited. I think Chark
mispracticed on Thursday.
If both those
guys play, I give a slight lean toward Reynolds
just based on how he's performed so far this season,
but both would get a boost and be in the number three receiver range.
Not necessarily ranked that way,
but you can certainly start them as number three receivers.
Reynolds probably better in PPR, Tark probably better in non-PPR
just with the touchdown potential, but again, both very similar.
And then a boost for Hawkinson too.
The fact that he's able to practice and seemingly on track to play
is a great situation for him.
He should be solidified as a top 10 tight end if Amonra St. Brown's not there.
If St. Brown plays, I don't think you want to trust outside of deeper leagues, Reynolds or Chark.
Would you say if Michael Thomas and Amonra St. Brown are both out,
would you take Josh Reynolds or DJ Chark or Jarvis Landry?
Landry.
Reynolds.
Landry Chark,
I think is how I will rank it.
I like,
I like Reynolds.
I think golf likes Reynolds too.
And let's say Keenan Allen is also out.
Josh Palmer,
Reynolds, Landry. Who's the best? Palmer, Josh Palmer, Reynolds, Landry.
Who's the best?
Palmer, Landry, Reynolds, Chark.
I think I'd go Palmer, Reynolds, Landry, Chark as well.
Okay.
You just said you like Reynolds over Landry.
Yeah.
What'd I say?
I said Reynolds over Landry.
That's what he said.
I thought you said Landry over Landry. I'm sorry.
No, no. Last year, by the way,
this was the breakout game
for Palmer in his rookie season.
For who?
Against Texas.
Oh.
Okay. And yeah,
TJ Hawkinson is...
Why is TJ Hawkinson, by the way, so low
for you guys?
Just because he hasn't been very good?
Right.
Okay, that makes sense.
Good response.
Sit the DSTs. We're going to take a quick break.
When we come back, we'll talk Rams at 49ers.
Rams at 49ers.
Stat of the game.
These run defenses have been very good.
No running back has rushed for 50 yards yet against the Rams, and
San Francisco is allowing 2.9 yards
per carry to running backs. Do you want to start any running
back in this game, Dave?
No. I'm encouraged by what
I saw with Cam Akers last week.
He's at best a non-PPR flex.
Okay.
Pressure rate.
I don't know.
He makes me nervous too.
Yeah.
Look, I like him better than the Rams running backs.
Yeah.
I would start him over.
I started with Miles Sanders, for example.
I would start him over Antonio Gibson.
I think they're clearly giving him plenty of work,
and that's fantastic.
So Trent Williams not being there is ugly.
That's not going to be fine.
That line is in bad shape. The fact that they're also throwing him the ball, which is the best part about it. That's fantastic. So Trent Williams not being there is ugly. That's not going to be fine.
That line is in bad shape. The fact that they're also throwing him the ball,
which is the best part about it.
So if he's still going to get three catches,
he could still get over 80 total yards chance to score.
At some point, he's going to find the end zone.
All right.
So the Niners, number one in the NFL in pressure rate,
and the Bills are number three, and they destroyed Matthew Stafford.
So I think that's where the concern
lies with Matthew Stafford here.
100%.
I think they're going to really have a lot of success against the
run game and Stafford's going to have to throw.
I think he played really well last week.
He threw 25 times and averaged
10 yards per attempt and it would have been a lot more than
that if Cup didn't drop, what was that, a 40-ish
yard touchdown pass that was beautifully
thrown. So that's why I'm more optimistic.
He scored 23 or more fantasy.
He scored about 23 fantasy points
in two of three games
against the 49ers last year.
Yes, they were both at home
and he was bad in the one road game.
But yeah, I don't know.
Technically, technically, though,
the one at home was also a road game.
Why? Because of the fans?
You don't remember what happened
that they had to use a silent count
in their own building?
Yeah.
I don't remember that, no.
But the Niners have been great.
They have not even allowed
200 passing yards yet.
Justin Fields,
Geno Smith,
Russell Wilson.
We'll see what happens here.
We already talked about
Stafford earlier,
but Dave's got him around 12th.
Jamie's going to move him
to around 15th.
Sit the Rams running backs
if you can,
but you like Akers better
than Henderson, I assume?
Yes. Yeah.
Okay.
And Cooper cup is a start where you cool with cup after last week,
after the job,
let's see.
Um,
Alan Robinson,
we've talked about Adam Thielen.
We've talked about crystal,
uh,
not a lot of,
I know he's going a bit of ahead of Robinson.
We've talked about Adam Thielen,
the Seahawks guys. We've talked about Jarvis Landry and the scenario that Michael Thomas is out. All better than
Robinson? Yeah, you can't trust him.
I've got Robinson 52nd
among wide receivers in PPR.
He's like 49th for me, something
like that. You love him.
Okay.
Tyler Higbee,
must-start guy?
It's hard to get away from targets.
I mean, this has been the second-best receiving option for Stafford.
And so, you know, hopefully he continues to produce.
Obviously not an easy matchup, but 8 to 10 targets is something
that's easily in play for Tyler Higbee this week.
This will be interesting because, you know,
I talked about this at the beginning of the year.
The San Francisco 49ers
have been top six
against tight ends
in four straight seasons.
And they have faced
almost no good tight ends.
And last year,
it's really weird.
They will this year, though,
because they're playing
the NFC West.
And the AFC West.
I mean, they are.
Yeah.
And Tyler Higby actually
caught two touchdowns last year.
Three touchdowns in two regular season games against the 49ers. And they got hurt in the postFC West. I mean, they did. Yeah. And Tyler Higbee actually caught two touchdowns last year. Three touchdowns in two regular season games against the 49ers.
And he got hurt in the postseason game.
This would definitely be a situation where you're not looking to stream a tight end over Higbee.
If you have him, you just start him.
Yeah.
Sit Garoppolo, Jeff Wilson.
Actually, Heath is the highest on Jeff Wilson.
He has him in the top 20.
And you'd start Wilson, over Allen Robinson would you start
Wilson or
I'd start Wilson the volleyball over Allen Robinson
Jamie I don't know what happened to you last night
or this morning but you are in a fun
like an angry but fun angry
mood and I love it
would you start Jeff Wilson or Curtis Samuel?
Let's say half PPR.
Samuel.
Half PPR, yeah, probably Samuel.
Okay, so definitely in full PPR, Curtis Samuel.
Yeah, non-PPR Wilson.
Okay.
Debo Samuel, Brandon Ayuk, who do you like better?
Debo.
I don't trust Ayuk this week.
It's not that crazy.
Ayuk, you could argue, is a better,
will be a more prolific wide receiver with Jimmy Garoppolo,
just as he was in the second half of last year.
And does he lead the team in receiving?
He might.
It's probably very close.
I'm going to check that.
I bet they're very close.
Why don't you trust
Ayuk?
I just don't trust he's going to be
productive against this defense. I think
it's going to be a problem for Garoppolo also. I mean, they just lost
Trent Williams. So to expect
downfield throws with a lot of success from
Jimmy Garoppolo is not exactly something I think you're going to
see. So you can see a lot of design
short throws to Debo, to
Kittle, get the ball quick.
Shanahan will adjust, but can he adjust against his defense?
This feels just like a low-scoring game.
It just feels like there's not going to be a lot of points scored
between these two teams.
That's the worry is that it's going to be a lot of field goals
and maybe two touchdowns per team, something like that.
And I think it will be a close game after all.
But the Rams have allowed the highest catch rate to wide receivers
this year, 75%.
That's crazy.
How much of that, though, is
week one versus week two
and three?
Look, it's catch rate. If you want me to
try and break it down. Hey, listen, the Rams
have given up the second most points to wide receivers
and let's go through it. And the second most
yards to wide receivers, too.
They got torched by Diggs.
They got torched by Gabe Davis.
But Drake London had 86 yards and a touchdown.
Olamide Zaccheaus caught a touchdown.
Marquis Brown had 140 yards.
Greg George had nine for 80 on 10 targets.
Right.
And look, obviously teams are throwing like crazy against them.
It's just the nature of the teams that they've played.
And I think the 49ers are going to have to try and do
something like that. And that gets me to Iuke,
who's got a 24% target share
on the season, but with Garoppolo,
it's 30%. And I love
that. So I think Iuke is a flex.
I'm still going to start Debo over him.
I think it's kind of crazy to think that it's not because
Debo can contribute in the run game. Yeah, of course.
But I wouldn't run away from Iuke just because
he's playing against the Rams.
No, the Rams' run defense is so good that teams are forced to,
and their offense is good, obviously.
The teams are forced to pass on them
like Kyler Murray threw, what, 60 passes in week three.
Michael Thomas, by the way,
has been declared out for the game.
So we've already given you the contingency plans there.
George Kittle is eighth, ninth, right around there. Again,
you're going to start him. The Rams have now
allowed just one touchdown to a tight
end in their last 14 games dating
back to last year, and it was
George Kittle in the AFC championship game.
Which DST do you prefer?
Ram.
Let me double check
because I want to say the Rams. It's the rams but they're both top 10
kansas city at tampa bay stat of the game the chiefs have held james connor to 2.6 yards per
carry austin eckler to 2.8 and jonathan taylor to 3.4 yards per carry how about this chiefs run
defense dominant so far they They are without Willie Gay,
but they were without him last week, starting linebacker.
Meanwhile, the Bucs have
the number one scoring defense in football,
and the Chiefs are fifth in yards
per play allowed. Both teams are top
five. Jamie, is this a high-scoring game
or kind of a surprisingly
defensive game?
It wouldn't surprise me if it's a surprisingly
defensive game. I mean, you're looking at what the
Bucs have been, and they're not
exactly lighting things up, and they've been holding teams
down, and we certainly have seen one
sample size of this defense versus this quarterback.
It was a much different offensive line for the Chiefs,
but in the Super Bowl, Patrick Mahomes was
extremely frustrated against this team.
Different set of circumstances,
different set of weapons for Mahomes,
and certainly a different offensive line.
But yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if this is a game that's in the low 40s at best.
I don't think you want to play the over here.
I know you guys don't love Cam Akers, obviously,
and you're lukewarm on Jeff Wilson.
Where do you rank Clyde Edwards-Elair amongst those guys?
Better than
Akers and in the same range as Wilson.
I would start Clyde over Wilson
and PPR for sure. I would too.
Okay, but we do want to get away
from Clyde if possible.
Yeah, but
then you're starting to think about what running
backs you'd use ahead of him. As a flex,
definitely you can get away from Clyde.
But as a starting running back, you weigh him against Miles Sanders Wilson Jacobs I don't know if he's
necessarily worse I know it's a tough matchup but they use him near the goal line uh Jacobs
certainly over Clyde uh who else you say Wilson Jeff Olsen yeah like I said PPR I go Clyde because
it was rolling the passing game but I'd go Wilson non-PPR uh I like BreesPR, I'd go Clyde because of his role in the passing game, but I'd go Wilson in non-PPR.
I like Brees Hall better.
I like Tony Pollard better.
Kareem Hunt?
I like Kareem Hunt better.
All right.
I mean, you know, 15 touches for him versus, you know,
maybe 12 for Clyde in their respective matchups.
I'll take Kareem.
I threw three games.
Look at the Chiefs wide receivers. And by the way, Patrick Mahomes is top five.
Interested to see what he does this week.
He's only had one standout game.
He's been around 20, 21 fantasy points
each of the last two weeks after carving up Arizona.
MVS and Juju so far do not have a single green zone target
through three weeks.
It's been basically all Kelsey, a little bit of Clyde.
Not great for the wide receivers.
And Juju's had two good games out of three.
Nothing great.
But Dave, you have confidence that he can be in the what 70 80 yard range juju somewhere around there but more
importantly the five six seven catch range right around he i don't has even had a 15 point ppr game
yet he might have last week i think in the 14s. So he's been really close. So, like, good number three receiver in PPR.
Okay.
I think the thing to keep an eye on here is MBS has mispracticed
Wednesday and Thursday with an abdomen injury.
And if he's out this week, then what do they do?
Do they put Sky Moore on the field more?
Do they put Justin Watson on the field more?
You know, who gets the benefit of the additional playing time?
And Mikko Harmon is also banged up.
He's dealing with a heel injury for the last two both of them so yeah it could be um but i
think they like wilson or not wilson uh watson they like watson a lot um i think the thing that
would be the hope would be you know and this goes back to what my homes told us this offseason that
expect to see a diverse offense and you frustrating situation for fantasy managers. Well, if they're down one or two guys,
maybe we get some concentrated targets
like we're used to from Mahomes,
and that helps Juju and that helps Kelsey.
And we see these guys maybe pop a little bit
based on what their potential could be.
So obviously nobody's getting away from Kelsey,
but I think if there is no MBS,
then that's a big boost for Juju.
Okay.
It's not like MBS is doing anything,
but he's on the field all the time.
Well, I mean, he's getting seven targets a week,
so those seven targets go somewhere else.
Okay, start Travis Kelsey.
Tom Brady.
Start or sit, Jamie?
I would start him.
I don't think it's a slam dunk like,
oh my God, you got to go back to Tom Brady,
but I made the decision,
not that who knows how it would have worked out,
but I had Tom Brady in two in one league, and I started Brady.
I think, you know, him and Russell Wilson, to me,
it's an opportunity for them to be in better situations.
For Brady, mostly it's because he's getting Evans back and hopefully Godwin.
Russell Gage seemed to show something last week that, you know,
maybe Brady will trust, not necessarily just because the guys were missing.
Maybe the same thing with Brate, you know, getting just different guys involved,
you know, certainly would help his outlook.
I hope Donovan Smith plays, but I think that's huge, you know,
getting his left tackle back to solidify the offense line a little bit.
But every quarterback against this Chiefs defense has at least gotten two touchdowns.
And so I think if Brady gets that second touchdown,
I don't think he's going to be turnover prone.
So can he get you 250 and two?
I think that's realistic.
So back end number one quarterback, you know, whether he's 10 or 12, you know, I don't think he's going to 52? I think that's realistic. So back end number, number one quarterback,
you know,
whether he's 10 or 12,
you know,
I don't think he's going to be a top five guy,
but he's got the opportunity,
I think,
to still reward you with about a 20 to 22 point game.
Start for net Evans for sure.
Dave,
I,
you already did this earlier,
but you want to run down how you feel about the bucks wide receivers.
Cause there's just a lot of uncertainty here.
Evans is a top 15 isish type of wide receiver,
especially in, well, it's both
formats, really, because you're hoping that
he scores a touchdown. Don't
hate the matchup for him.
I think if Julio plays, he's
probably the next best guy, but it's with
some trepidation because he could always get hurt.
I think Gage kind of
made him a trustworthy target
for Tom Brady,
and he could be their slot guy if Godwin doesn't play.
If Godwin plays, it'll hurt certainly Julio and Gage a lot,
but I don't know if fantasy managers can just race right back to Godwin
in typical two-wide receiver, one-flex leagues
because we don't know how much he'll play.
We don't know how effective he'll be.
I have Godwin only in three wide receiver,
one flex leagues.
And I would,
I'm sure you would too.
I mean,
I would be so excited to start him.
I've been dying to start Chris Godwin,
three receiver PPR.
I've got him in three receiver,
three flex leagues.
I would absolutely start him.
Yeah.
He,
I mean,
he really,
I know it was so small,
but he looked very good in week one,
three catches,
35 yards on three targets.
But the way he exploded and that one catch he made
and that wide receiver screen, I think it was,
made me at least feel like, okay, the ACL is not an issue right now.
And then his hamstring exploded.
Yes, exactly.
But at least I think he's recovered from the ACL.
I hope he plays.
All right.
Imagine if they didn't play him that week and rush him on the field,
and then we would have had him for the last maybe two weeks.
Maybe.
Starter stick Cameron Brate.
If you're desperate at tight end.
Okay.
He's the second best tight end in this game.
Would you start a DST?
No.
Washington is at Dallas.
That of the game.
The Cowboys have held
their first three opponents
to under 20 points
for the first time since 1974.
Almost 50 years.
How about them Cowboys?
Okay.
Carson Wentz or Cooper Rush?
You laugh, but Rush played so well.
If the Cowboys win this game, it could be Dak Prescott or Cooper Rush.
Still Wentz.
I agree.
Wentz should throw more.
You like Wentz this week?
No.
No, it's a volume thing for Rush.
It's a volume thing for Rush.
Yeah, that Cowboys pass rush is going to be all over Carson Wentz.
Is Gibson...
Did you see how many times he was pressured last week?
Pressured? I know he was sacked nine times.
Daniel Jones or Carson Wentz?
I'm sorry, he was hit 17 times.
Not that much was pressured.
So he was sacked nine times, he was hit 17 times.
He was pressured a ton.
And did you see how many times the Cowboys sacked and hit Daniel Jones?
No, it's the exact
same problem that Wentz is going to have. They sacked
him five times and they hit him 12 times.
I mean... Yeah, the most
pressures for a Giants quarterback
in, like,
I don't know, 15 years? 55% of
the snaps. Something crazy like that. 55%.
Holy cow. Yeah.
It was brutal. I was very proud
of Daniel Jones. I wanted to go in the locker room and be like,
I'm so proud of you, son.
I thought he played.
I was swelling with pride for the guts he displayed in that game.
Carson Wentz is going to have to do the same thing.
Carson Wentz or Marcus Mariota, Jared Goff, Geno Smith?
Yes.
All those guys over Wentz.
Okay.
Gibson or Clyde? yes all those guys over went okay gibson or clyde i have gibson over clyde gibson and non-ppr clyde and ppr they've just stopped throwing
to gibson it's the jd mckissick show yeah i think they're gonna have to throw to gibson
gibson had a terrible run late last week i don't know if he had another carry after it, but he went
east and west instead of north and south. It's
the thing that they hate the most. The
second thing they hate the most about
Antonio Gibson. The first is the fumbles. He hasn't done that yet.
I think they've got to throw. They
know what the Cowboys pass rush is
going to be able to do. They just experienced
it with Philadelphia. Dallas isn't as
good defensively as Philadelphia, but they're close.
They're going to work around that.
I think Gibson gets back involved in the passing
game. So where do you have him ranked? You obviously seem to like
him more. I've got him way too high.
Why would they go back to get Gibson involved in the passing game
when they've been using McKissick in that role for last year?
Because they can't run the ball, and
they've got to get the ball out of McKissick.
But again, though, why would they use Gibson
and McKissick? Because they can't overload McKissick.
Why not? If they get 12 targets, because they've never done that. Maybe theyissick? Because they can't overload McKissick. Why not?
Because they've never done that. Maybe they could.
I mean, they have the last three weeks.
And then they go with McKissick.
I think that's what's going to happen.
There's a simpler answer here.
McKissick plays on third down.
If they just throw the ball to Gibson on first and second down like they did in week one when he had
seven catches. And 2021 and 2020.
Yeah. They did it a ton then 2021 and 2020 yeah it's on then too
but it's hard to say they will because they have curtis samuel playing that role and they still
have they have other options it's just they're back to i don't trust antonio gibson motive again
and they've proven that the last two weeks if he doesn't score a touchdown you're getting a
miserable stat line and so this is a defense that's been very good i should i i would hope
that they'd be able to contain
this offense based on how this offensive line looks
right now. So I would stay away from it.
Tony Gibson, if you can. He's a flex at best.
What about the wide
receivers?
They're all number three guys at best.
Right.
McClure might be a low-end number two for me.
I'd start a lobby over him i would start
i don't think i'd go the landry uh reynolds route over him yet but he's closer to those
guys than he is to must start who are you talking about mclaurin or samuel both well samuel i mean
seven catches every game at least seven seven eight in every game yeah i've seven. Seven, eight in every game.
I've got McLaurin right at 24th
among wide receivers.
Might be a tad too high,
but high-end flex at minimum.
Samuel is 31st.
Got him ahead of Dortch.
Got him ahead of Iyuk, Bateman,
Garrett Wilson.
He's going to get a ton of catches.
Okay.
If Chris Godwin plays,
how many Washington wide receivers are you starting over Chris Godwin?
I'd probably still start
McLaurin over him just because of the first game
back for Godwin, but I'd start Godwin over Samuel.
I wouldn't.
Not in PPR. Not in PPR,
maybe, but in full PPR, give me Samuel.
Logan
Thomas or Cameron
Brait?
Nogan Thomas? Logan Thomas or Cameron Brait? No-gan Thomas.
He's a touchdown or bust tight end.
Both of them are, but I'd rather have Thomas than Brait.
Yeah, I agree.
Cooper Rush is not ranked.
He hasn't exactly put up big numbers,
but if CeeDee Lamb had caught that deep ball,
that would have been a much better game for Cooper Rush.
Washington allows the third most fantasy points to quarterbacks.
They've given up over 30 points two weeks in a row to Goff and Hertz.
And they allowed the most fantasy points to quarterbacks last year.
So it's a great matchup, but he's Cooper Rush.
So Zeke and Pollard.
Jamie said a lot about this.
I think we talked about them actually a lot yesterday.
Dave, how do you feel about Zeke and Pollard this week against Washington,
which so far is giving up 5.3 yards per
carry to running backs? I don't know what. They were really good against running backs last year. They're terrible
so far this year. How do you feel about these Cowboys guys? If we were so
sure that Pollard was going to get almost the same amount of work as Zeke,
then I would start Pollard ahead of Zeke. But I don't know if that's going to be
the case. I know it was the case last week.
I'm not sure it's going to be the case this week, and I think Zeke has the better chance
to score.
So I like Zeke better than Pollard, but I do like Pollard as a high-end flex, regardless
of whether catches count or not.
Okay.
Sorry.
Funny.
What did you get, another text?
Yeah, yeah.
Dondo is just trying to save our position.
What did he say?
Things I'd rather rankings.
These are the rankings of things that he'd rather have.
I'm not going to tell you the first two.
Number three is friendship with Allie remains intact.
That's my wife.
Friendship with Adam's wife remains intact.
Friendship with Dave Azar remains intact.
That's my brother.
Next is friendship with Adam Azar
is restored after heart-to-heart by the ice machine
as Bill watches
with it. Anyway,
he is prioritizing friendship with
my wife and my brother over friendship with
me. So, I think
it's officially over.
Dallas-wide receivers. Lama
must start?
Yes. Of course.
Noah Brown, any interest?
Michael Gallup, any interest?
No.
I'd have more interest in Noah Brown if Michael Gallup was not playing.
But if Michael Gallup plays, then it's hard to trust him.
But certainly somebody that should be on your radar still in case Gallup is out.
All right.
This team sucks against slot receivers.
Keep that in mind.
They did last year.
They do this year.
They're terrible against everyone, basically. They've allowed 100 yards
every game.
They're so bad.
How's Jack Del Rio not fired yet?
Yeah. Oh, you get
Schneier talking about Jack Del Rio. It's hilarious.
Dalton Schultz.
Dalton Schultz. Yeah, where do you guys
have Dalton Schultz ranked this week?
Low end.
Right around 10.
It's more of a hope than a guarantee
because who knows, A, if he
plays, and B, how much he'll play.
It's a great opportunity
if he's out there.
He's better than the touchdown or bust tight ends.
Tyler Higbee or Dalton Schultz?
Higbee.
I would go Higbee and PPR
Schultz and non with the chance that he scores.
Logan Thomas or Dalton Schultz?
Schultz.
Oh, I got a good one.
Tyler Conklin, number three tight end in fantasy, or Dalton Schultz?
So I've got Conklin ranked pretty high in PPR because he's been so involved lately,
but I'm not sure what's going to happen with Zach Wilson there.
That's one I might have to change.
But I still might put him right ahead of Schultz.
I would treat
Schultz and Conklin the same way I would
treat Schultz and Higby. Higby and
Conklin better in PPR, Schultz better in
non-PPR.
Well, I don't know that Dalton
Schultz would be a draft.
I don't even know if he'd be drafted if Cooper Rush
were the quarterback all year. The appeal was
Dak Prescott. It's not like we think Dalton Schultz is some star.
He'd probably be drafted, but he'd be a late-round pick probably.
Well, I mean, to be fair, as Dave just alluded to,
we've been relying on Tyler Conklin to whatever extent people have been relying on him
because of his backup quarterback.
Well, yeah, but I do have a small sample size,
but he had two catches for 18 yards in week two with Cooper Rush.
Well, you have to Azerstad that one.
No, he got hurt very late in that game.
No, no, no, no, no. You got to Azerstad.
No, I'm not Azerstad-ing anything.
Dallas DSD is top five.
Cardinals, we got two games left, but the last game is Giants and Bears, so that's just starting two players.
Arizona at Carolina, stat of the
game, according to onlyinyourstate.com,
Charlotte
is the pimento cheese
capital of the world. Thank you
for arguably the worst cheese, Charlotte.
Pimento cheese.
Sorry I didn't try it when I was there this summer.
You should have, yeah. Next time, now you know.
Isn't that a staple at
Augusta?
Pimento cheese sandwich? Thata? I don't know.
Pimento cheese sandwich?
Not happening.
That's all I know about golf.
So Kyler Murray is seventh for you guys.
Maybe that's changed, but as of yesterday, he was seventh.
He's seventh.
He's lower for you.
God, man, run.
Let him run.
James Conner.
Let's do some James Conner oars.
James Conner oars.
Antonio Gibson.
Connor.
James Connor or James Robinson.
Connor.
I'll take Robinson.
James Connor or Ezekiel Elliott.
Connor.
Connor by a nose.
All right.
He's a number two running back.
It's been a pretty good defense.
Carolina's not great against the run,
but actually other than Nick Chubb,
they've been pretty solid.
I mean,
respectable against cream.
That Barkley guy and hunt and Camara.
They've been pretty,
they've been pretty solid.
Chubb is the only one who tore them up.
They're,
they're a good defense.
It seems could be competition,
but so far so good. All right. Obviously you're starting Marqu it seems. Could be competition, but so far, so good.
All right, obviously you're starting Marquise Brown.
How do you feel about Greg? Greg Dortch is the number
18 wide receiver in PPR so far,
or he was going into Thursday night.
So would you start Chris Olave,
Jarvis Landry, Greg Dortch? How would you rank them?
Well, you have a big thing at play
here. If Rondell Moore plays, then
Greg Dortch probably loses his role.
He's probably still on the field, but he loses his role as a slot guy.
So if he's not playing in the slot, then I don't love Greg Dortch.
But if he's playing in the slot still,
depending on what they decide to do to replace A.J. Green,
then this is why he's been so successful,
because Kyler Murray's been looking for him.
So we'll find out.
It's a little bit of a discovery game to see what they do with Rondell Moore back.
But this was supposed to be Rondell Moore, which is so frustrating.
Sure.
Well, Kingsbury said that Rondell would be limited if he plays.
My hunch is that they will both play in and out of the slot all game long.
I don't mind Dorch.
Right now, I've got him ranked as a top 36 receiver in PPR.
But if Rondell Moore plays,
he probably won't last there.
He'll fall down a little bit, but still not bad.
He'll be a not bad PPR receiver.
Yeah, it could certainly work in his favor,
and to be fair,
he's not 100%. He's been on the injury
report all week.
What we could get also, which would be
fun on the other side of this, is if Dortch is out and Moore is healthy,
then maybe Moore is somebody you wanted to beat the waiver wire on
because he could have all these opportunities.
You know, what has it been?
Seven plus targets in three straight games?
Or seven plus catches in three straight games?
Excuse me.
Who, for Dortch?
Right, Dortch?
No, he had a four-catch game in week two.
Right, he had seven catches in two of three games.
But he has scored 13.3 or more PPR fantasy points
in all three games.
And do you like Dortch
better than DJ Moore?
Yep.
If there is no Rondell Moore,
yes.
If Rondell Moore plays,
I'll go back to Moore.
Both of those receivers,
by the way,
are available in like 65%
or more of CBS leagues.
Yeah.
Two stash guys,
Rondell,
maybe Rondell ahead of Dorch.
I would.
You guys have Zach,
Zachary at sixth.
So start him using while you can.
And Christian McCaffrey,
we expect to play,
but if he doesn't,
how high would you rank Foreman for Jamie Hubbard for Dave?
You guys said earlier,
you have
different favorites here would they crack your top 30 no all right i don't think so i think we'd
probably be talking about one guy is a top 36 running back okay and dj moore is not even in
the top 40 he's 28th for heath but that's like 100th for Heath. But he has to.
He has to hold on.
Again, I mean...
You know what he is?
He is Rose holding on to Jack in the Titanic.
Yeah, but she did kind of let go.
No, I mean, at some point, he's going to have to let go.
She murdered him.
I hate her.
There was room on that thing for two of them.
Totally.
It's ridiculous.
It was straight-up murder. Bears's ridiculous. It was straight up murder.
Bears and Giants.
Stat of the game. These teams are
both 2-1.
What? They have also combined
for three pass plays of 25
plus yards. The Patriots
lead the NFL with 10,
which is weird. The Dolphins are
tied, but they played an extra game.
Stat of the game number two,
the Bears have been very solid against wide receivers through three games.
Something to keep an eye on.
Depot Samuel had 14 yards.
Iuke had 40.
Lazard had 13 yards.
Yeah, okay, fine.
Lazard had 13 yards and a touchdown.
Brandon Cooks had 22 yards.
Those guys, none of them had more than 40 yards.
Only Lazard has scored so far.
How did Samuel Watkins do against them?
He had 93 yards.
He's been the best. Okay. All right. Dave, how did Depot Samuel, Brandon Iuke, Only Lazard has scored so far. How did Samuel Watkins do against them? He had 93 yards.
He's been the best.
Dave, how did Debo Samuel, Brandon Iyuk, Brandon Cooks, and Alan Lazard do?
Give us some credit.
Give us some credit here.
They were fine.
They were fine.
All right, listen.
Start Herbert.
Start Barkley.
Sit everyone else.
Richie James, I'm guessing, would be your favorite flex.
Although my prediction is Kenny Galladay leads the team in receiving,
but not in a significant way. And I gotta tell you, I think
Daniel Bellinger is kind of interesting.
I kind of like him.
I don't really know. He's not a bad deep league ad, for sure.
Yeah, I don't know in what context, but...
I just picked him up in our Dynasty League.
He was on the way to work. I couldn't believe it.
Bears DST? Giants DST?
Who do you like?
Bears. Giants DST? Who do you like? Bears.
Giants.
Sportsline loves
the Giants DST, by the way.
They have no pass rush.
I don't know about Leonard Williams.
It helps him immensely
if he plays.
If he's right.
Limited on Wednesday, and he did not practice on Thursday.
Oh, he didn't practice Wednesday.
Leonard Williams is probably not going to play.
That's my guess.
And that's a big deal.
So, okay.
That's it.
That's that game.
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