Fantasy Football Today - 👻 Start or Sit (NFC)! Halloween Edition! SCARY LINEUP DECISIONS! (10/31 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: October 31, 2025Happy Halloween! We recap Ravens-Dolphins (3:00) which of course included a frightening performance from Miami! How do we feel about Mark Andrews and Zay Flowers going forward? We've also got updated ...news and notes (8:40) ... One Question for Each Game (17:05)! Start or Sit Rico Dowdle? David Montgomery? Jauan Jennings? Chris Olave? Deebo Samuel? Zonovan Knight? ... Start or Sit for Panthers-Packers (22:40), Vikings-Lions (31:00), 49ers-Giants (41:45), Seahawks-Commanders (52:10), Saints-Rams (1:02:45), Cardinals-Cowboys (1:08:15) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Okay, party on, everybody.
Happy Halloween.
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Hey, guys,
Archiegear!
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Hey, Wayne Campbell here,
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Party on, Wayne.
Party on Garth.
And Jave Batman guy.
Jamie, what is this?
Yeah, it looks good.
What's up?
I forgot to get the wig, sorry.
We didn't know what to do for Jamie.
We thought maybe Alice Cooper.
I'm Cassandra, but I appreciate you dress it up.
What's going on, everyone?
Welcome to the show.
I could also do this.
Oh, wait, let's remember how they do the alternate endings in Wayne's World?
We could do the alternate intros.
Why don't you say that for the end of the show?
We could do the super scary intro, Dave.
Oh, I'm Adam Hellraiser with depraved Dave.
and Jamie the Hills have Eisenbergs.
Happy Halloween.
We got some fun stuff prepared for you today.
All right, we also have six games to preview.
Our NFC home games are Carolina at Green Bay,
Minnesota at Detroit,
San Francisco at the Giants,
Seattle at Washington, New Orleans at the Rams,
and Arizona at Dallas.
Yeah.
All right, let's party on.
Talk about Baltimore 28 and Miami 6.
Could it, you know, could have been a closer game.
Jamie, the Dolphin shot themselves in the foot a little bit.
But, you know, before the injury, Lamar Jackson, I think had a pretty good case for fantasy MVP.
He's now played five games and he scored 33 or more points and four of them.
Holy cow, if you're drafting today, who would you take ahead of Lamar Jackson?
I would take Jamar Chase.
I would take Bejohn Robinson.
I would take Jonathan Taylor.
I would take Jackson's been in the jigbox.
I would take Cacruca Pugna Cua.
I mean, I'm still not taking a quarterback in the first round.
Oh, come on.
He deserves to be in the first round.
He's a top 12 player.
No?
He's not?
No.
He just wouldn't do it.
He's incredible.
Oh, my gosh.
All right, Jamie, what are your takeaways from this game?
I think you said that, you know, the first half, the dolphins were definitely in the game.
You know, the false start penalty on fourth down call,
Mike McDaniel felt like they had a touchdown there.
If you read his lips.
You know, the Miss Field Goal was bad also.
The Malik Washington, two turnovers were obviously bad.
The first one, you know, cost them a 7-0 deficit.
But you could just tell that they needed to be perfect for that, you know, work out from Miami.
And it just wasn't the case.
But Devon A-10 looked awesome.
Jalen Waddle was fine.
It's just a matter of at this point.
It's funny, I had to do a DFS lineup for last night.
And Dave and Heath were sitting in the room when I did the hit.
And I saw Dave shake his head when I said,
Greg Dulchitz because he was cheap.
Yeah.
And he actually ended up playing well, you know, so.
I didn't even know he was on the dolphins.
That's why I was shit.
I was like, I was like, Dulcich is on the dolphins now?
Yeah, he was, he was $2,000 on Fandol.
And so you had to find somebody.
But I was a great ball.
You know, you need someone to catch the ball there.
But in any event, uh, I hit the microphone, sorry.
It's so funny to watch you right now in this costume, just talk like a normal guy.
It's like nothing's on your face.
It's so funny.
I mean, I think it's all systems.
like start H&, start Waddle, start Jackson, start.
Well, we can talk about Flowers.
Derek Henry really had a pretty bad first half.
Had some touchdown opportunities, but Lamar Jackson was just throwing all of them.
Mark Andrews had two touchdowns on three targets.
So, Dave, how do you value Mark Andrews and Zay Flowers,
who we were talking about as a by-low?
He's still, in his career, he still only has two good games
where he's had less than seven targets.
And he didn't get there last night.
He had five targets, but that's because he never scores.
Anyway, your thoughts on Andrews and Flowers.
I think you're still starting flowers as a number two type of fantasy wide receiver,
but a high-end number two receiver.
Anytime the Ravens are in a game where you're expecting them to score a lot of points
and maybe focus on more of like those high-scoring competitive games,
you should feel even better about, say, flowers.
But putting them top 10, top 12, I don't know, man.
It depends on who else is available at wide receiver that you could go to in a given week
to just rank them that high.
But you're starting Zayflowers pretty much every week.
Andrews is a little bit of a different story.
I feel like he's red zone dependent.
If the Ravens,
if they've got a really tough matchup or a defense that they're facing that's really good in the red zone and inside the 10,
it's going to be tougher to trust him because he doesn't get a lot of targets on a week-to-week basis.
And he's so touchdown dependent.
Last night was kind of easy to go with them.
I actually moved him up just a little, not enough, obviously, to put him in,
I think I ended up with him at like that.
Do you where?
A decent 13.
Okay, okay.
As in Friday the 13th.
Oh, but still not the best tight end that you could start in fantasy,
but better than your typical streamer.
Someone called me Winona Azer.
Yeah.
Yeah, all right.
Well, that would be it for Thursday night football.
I don't know if we do that for Friday.
All right.
So we have a YouTube poll from Thomas,
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I think so, too.
And we only have 8% of the vote here, Jamie,
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All right,
let's do some news and notes here.
Okay, excellent.
Yeah.
Jaden Daniels expected to play.
Kyler Murray seems to be on track to play.
Do you guys feel good right now
about Kyler starting at his Monday night game?
Good about him starting, yes.
Good about him as like a must-start fantasy quarterback.
Not as much.
I go the other way right now.
There was an NFL network report that the Cardinals
may not be sure at this point.
Mike Garofalo on the broadcast before the game yesterday said
they pushed back his media availability
which is obviously not a great sign
so just something to keep in mind
it seems like he's going to play
I mean we got the report from Schefter but when I saw that last
yesterday I was like oh do I need to get a backup plan just in case
I dropped Jacoby Brissette in one Super Flex league
where I have him with Kyler and I was a little like oh
you know not not thrilled about that but I think if
Kyler plays he's going to be awesome I mean just based on
how everybody's done against this Cowboys defense
23 or more fantasy points.
So I would still start him if he's out there.
Okay.
Atlanta optimistic about Michael Pennix,
Bryce Young, practice in full.
Good news for Flacco, but not great news.
He was upgraded to limited.
We still don't know if he's going to play.
Hopefully we'll have an update for you on the mailbag,
which we record at noon on Friday,
publishes for audio on Saturday.
J.J. McCarthy's good to go.
And then still Brock Purdy Limited,
Mac Jones practicing in full.
So right now we're ranking Mac Jones.
We'll obviously stay updated on the 49ers.
situation. Remandre Stevenson still not practicing with that toe injury. We talked about this
game yesterday. Dave De Ernest, they did sign Dearness Johnson, sorry, but Trevion Henderson would be
what for you if Remandre missed the game against Atlanta? I would cautiously rank him as a top
like 26 running back. Maybe he'd crack the top 24. I don't think he'd be the only running back
in New England. Mike Brable seemed really impressed with Terrell Jennings two weeks ago.
as kind of like they're closed it out running back.
I think he called them the five-minute running back,
which is usually what you call somebody
who's just going to grind the clock
and do well enough to get a couple of first downs along the way.
But he's available in 99% of leagues.
I really do believe that it will be a tandem in New England
no matter what they do at running back.
And if there's no remandre, Trevion might lead the way,
but it would be Jennings,
who's kind of a hammerback himself also pitching in.
Okay.
I can just give you one example.
I have Trayvion Henderson on my bench right now.
If Ramandre's out, I'll start him over either Kendrick Bourne or Christian Watson, something like that.
Sure.
Hassan Haskins missed practice again.
Tony Pollard back to practicing in full.
DeAndre Swift missed practice.
We should definitely be rostering Kyle Menongai.
It's not unusual for Swift to miss practice, but on a Wednesday.
On a Thursday, it's a little more concerning here.
I think you actually missed Thursday one of the last two weeks, too.
Okay.
Yeah, I think you're right, because I remember everyone making a dash to get Menongai.
Swift played.
But it is a great matchup and just monitor it.
Woody Marks was limited, Pacheco mispractice, and Cam Skadaboo should be ready for training
camp.
All right, wide receiver news.
Detroit, their offensive coordinator, John Morton said he has failed James and Williams.
They want to get him the ball more.
I don't know if it's going to be the week, but if you have James and Williams, could have a
good second half.
Let's hope.
Pooka Koo is going to play.
Lab McConkey was limited with a calf issue.
Is anybody worried about that one?
Not yet.
Wow. Okay. Christian Kirk looks like he's going to play.
Nico Collins is going to play. According to Mike Floreo of pro football talk, the Eagles,
I think I said this one yesterday. They're unofficially shopping, A.J. Brown.
No, Terry McLauron. What does that mean? What does that mean? I don't know.
I heard something yesterday where they're just, they're listening to offers.
Right.
You know, everybody knows that he's upset. So it's a matter of, you know,
will they get something that overwhelms them? I'd be very surprised at they trade him.
Okay, Drake London Limited. Darnel Mooney practice in full. We don't know yet about Drake London. That's one we're going to have to monitor. Josh Downs, though, he practiced in full. Yesterday I said that all of the Bears wide receivers missed practice while O'Donzei and DJ Moore, they were limited. Cooper Cup was limited with heel and hamstring issues. Still no Calvin Ridley. Brian Thomas Jr. and Travis Hunter were both limited. Josh Palmer was limited. Rashid Shaheed was limited. And Ricky Pearsall missed practice again. We do have some tight-end news.
Zach Jackson of the Athletic thinks the Browns will trade either David Nijoku or Jerome Ford.
They've been replaced by rookies, so those guys could be on the move,
which means you should hold on to both Njoku and Fannin during the biweek,
and we'll see what happens.
Cole Komet, limited again.
So, Jamie, how do you feel about Loveland, who is your favorite tight-end streamer with Komet
getting two limited sessions in?
I think he just got to, at this point, figure that he's a desperation play.
A good pivot, maybe, to Gunner Helm, if Chick-Wen,
If Chick O'Cocco doesn't play, O'Concoe's been on the injury party to the last two days.
So just looking at what his opportunities might be, that's somebody that I'm going to keep my eye on.
But I did some DFS lineups last night.
I put Loveland in just with the hope of, you know, he's been running more routes lately.
Komet still banged up to receiver injuries for the bears.
I wouldn't be surprised if Loveland still has a good game, but not the same amount of confidence, clearly.
Dalton Schultz missed practice.
He may not play this week.
Kyle Pitts was limited.
Pat Friarmeath did practice in full.
Jamie mentioned Chig Ocunquo missing practice
and Daniel Bellinger missed practice for the Giants.
Offensive line mentioned how Carolina is beat up.
Kansas City Guard, Trace Smith, was limited.
That's great news for them.
Giants right tackle, Jermaine Illuminaur.
He said he's going to play, but he's been missing practice.
Chargers guard, Mikai Bechtin may not play this week.
Washington left tackle Laramie Tunsell missed practice.
I'm looking forward to talking about that came later.
Pittsburgh Guard, Isaac Sayamalu, mispractice.
And Christian Darisaw practice in full on Wednesday.
Minnesota's star left tackle.
He practiced in full on Wednesday.
He did not practice yesterday.
And I just want to bring out, like,
JJ McCarthy, he didn't play with Christian Darrysaw.
Derisaw missed both of those games.
So I mean, I'm eager.
I didn't play with Jordan Addison either.
I'm interested to see what he can do if he's got a full,
you know, he's got a tough matchup,
but full assortment of players on his side.
Right.
But that would mean Brian O'Neill would have to be back at right tackle also.
Fair.
Like part of the problem for the Vikings last week is they ended up without both of
they're starting tackles in the game against the Chargers.
Okay.
All right.
That's it for the news and notes.
We do have some defensive injuries,
but I think you're probably all ready to move on.
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I think one of the hairs from the wig just got in my throat.
So this will be a fun segment.
Okay, one question for each game.
Carolina's at Green Bay.
Start or sit.
Rico Dowdowell, Jamie.
Low end starter at best.
Don't love the matchup.
I still don't know what the split's going to be from Dave Canales with Dowdell and Chuba Hubbard.
And so you look at the last three games for the Packers.
It's under 10 PPR points for Jalen Warren, Zonovan Knight, and Chase Brown?
Chase Brown, yeah.
So I think two of those guys are comparable to Rico Dowell.
And the offensive line is still an issue for the Panthers in terms of injuries.
Bryce Young is either going to play hurt or Andy Dalton is going to play hurt
or Andy Dollens is just going to play.
So it's just,
it's tough to say slam dunk for Eco Dattle.
So I'd rather start Kareem Hunt.
I'd rather start Woody Marks.
I'd rather start Bam.
Bam Knight.
Bam Knight's the best player ever, by the way.
Dark Knight.
The Bam, that's right.
I'm trying to think.
The one that I keep going back and forth with would be Henderson.
If Henderson is the full-time guy there,
I still start doubtle, but it's close.
All right, Minnesota is at Detroit.
Dave, who's a better flex in this game?
Jordan Addison or David Montgomery?
Format dependent.
If it's non-PPR, I'll lean toward Montgomery on the hope that he scores
and gets enough rushing yards.
I'm nervous about Derosaw playing the offensive line for Minnesota,
J.J. McCarthy playing well.
And so I've lowered expectations for both Jefferson and Addison.
Both of them are number two receivers.
Addison, a low end, Jefferson, a high end.
If it's full PPR, I might lean toward Addison.
Okay.
Also, also, do you think, like, the wig company used, like, housewife wigs as, like, the same thing as the Garth and Wayne wigs?
Because I don't feel like Garth, like, Garth had a little more volume to his hair, and Wayne did, too.
I don't know.
I don't feel like I'm an authentic Garth over here is what I'm saying.
Oh, I think you look pretty good.
I mean, all you need is the aerosmith t-shirt,
then you'd be pretty authentic.
Okay, but David Montgomery, by the way,
now for the second time in his Detroit tenure
has gone two straight games without a touchdown.
Will he have three straight games?
San Francisco is at the Giants.
Jamie, who's the best wide receiver in this game?
Wondell Robinson.
Dave, agreed?
Agreed.
Okay.
I think just one thing to keep in mind,
like the wide receivers for the passing game
for the Niners has been really bad.
couple weeks. They faced Atlanta and Houston. This week, the Giants are probably going to be
missing. They're starting cornerbacks. I think just could be a little bit better of a situation
for the Niners passing game. Seattle at Washington. Jamie, back to you again. How much faith do you
have in the Washington passing game? We talk about Debo Samuel. Zach Ertz in a great matchup.
How much faith do you have in them? I think Debo Samuel, just by default, is a low end number two
receiver, high end number three receiver, depending on what you're looking at. Hopefully, you know,
the fact that he's practicing full, the heel injury is behind him.
This has been the setup for him that he's had the most success,
which is no Terry McLaren, Jay and Daniels under center.
And so, you know, it's not easy.
Seattle has given up some big numbers to number one receivers at this point,
at times this season.
But it's going to be a struggle.
I have the most faith, honestly, in Ertz,
just because of how bad Seattle's been against tight ends.
Last time we saw them play, it was Dalton Schultz going crazy.
And this has been the best setup for, for Ertz as well.
you know, McLaren missing, and really just Jane Daniels,
all of his bad games so far the season for Earths have come
with Marcus Marriota under center.
So Ertz is the number one tight end this week.
Okay.
New Orleans is at the Rams.
Dave, is Chris Olavé a must start with Tyler Shuck?
Yes, especially in full and half PPR.
I don't think they're going to pull away from him.
The targets have been too good.
I actually have it pulled up.
1310, 14, 14, 6, 11, 10, 7, 12.
That's his target numbers every game this year.
I think you pencil them in for double-digit targets, even with Chuck.
Okay.
Would you start Alave or Debo Samuel?
Alabe.
I soured on Debo doing research earlier this week.
All right.
Well, okay.
All right, well, we'll go to that, I guess, when we get to the game.
Because I couldn't figure out what's going on with Debo Samuel.
I don't know if it's the injury.
If the target share has gone down, it's not like he's bad.
when McLaurin plays.
It's not like he's bad.
It's not like it's quarterback dependent.
It's just been terrible.
All right, we'll talk about that in a little bit.
Arizona's at Dallas.
Rank these three, Jamie.
Zonovan Knight.
George Pickens.
Marvin Harrison, Jr.
Bam Knight is number one in every category.
I would go Pickens, Harrison, Knight.
Pickens Harrison Knight.
And what would you do with Harrison's ranking?
Does it matter who his quarterback is?
No.
Yes.
It does?
I'm more encouraged if it's a percent.
Oh, that's so sad.
Just from what I've seen the last two weeks.
Yeah, but I'm still starting them, no matter what.
Agreed, but I'm moving them up a little bit if it's per set.
All right, guys, let's get a little scary here.
Let's get to the scary games for Sunday.
Every game today will have a name of the game.
Carolina is at Green Bay, the name of the game that I use every year.
Tommy Trembal.
Okay.
Okay.
How do we feel about
Tenorola McMillan guys, Dave?
I'm digging him.
I like him as a number two receiver,
especially in full PPR.
It's the same story with him every week.
Lots of targets.
Game script is going to be in his favor.
I wouldn't surprise me if he was close to what he did last week.
Oh, that was a big week.
That was like 90-something.
yards, right?
What was last week for McMillan?
Seven catches, 99 yards.
Okay.
Is he the best
Jacob?
Well, he's the best receiver in this game.
Well, he's the best receiver in this game, but.
Yes.
He's not the best pass catch.
He's not.
Kraft is better.
Yeah.
All right.
Or Trumble.
I'm just kidding.
Not Trump.
This is kind of an easy game except for doubt all right.
Start Jacobs, start McMillan, start Kraft.
It's not bad.
There's a lot of questions.
Yeah, it's not.
that easy, right? It's love and the Packers
receivers are tough. We'll get back to Dowdell.
How would you rank Dowdell with Dobbs, Watson, Golden?
I think he's safer than those guys, because at least you know he's going to get his
touches. You know, with the Packers' receivers, the question is, you know, with Watson back
last week, we saw Dobbs take a downturn and targets, which is like something that he needs,
especially if he's not finding the end zone. Golden is just at this point, as we talked about
on Tuesday, you know, dropable, which sucks because I still think there's plenty of upside
there, but too many mouths to feed.
And in the case of Dowdell, again, you know, it's what's the split going to be?
You know, Dave Canales, I appreciate his honesty, you know, and how he's approached this.
And so is this going to be all Rico Dowdell?
It's going to be 70-30.
Is it going to be, you know, 60-40 and just a slight favor for him in terms of playing time and touches?
So I think you just have to be a little bit cautious with Dowell.
This is a really good Packers' run defense.
You know, if this was the case and they're playing the Dolphins again or the Cowboys again, you'd be like,
I don't care what the split is.
I'm starting him no matter what.
But it's just with Green Bay's defense, it's tough to trust.
What the hell is going on?
Why is he here?
It's Halloween.
Happy Halloween.
Nandoine.
What are you doing here?
Dave told me to come.
What's up?
I invited him to the Halloween party, man.
Excellent.
You want to me to come say hi.
I'm Dave Azer, speech coach for Halloween.
I'm just walking around with the phone in the background.
You're being my brother for Halloween?
Good for you.
Is that weird?
Yes, it's weird.
Everything about you is weird.
Addo.
Azer and I haven't talked in months
since he engineered me
not being able to come
on the draftathon cleverly.
And so I stopped texting him first
and we haven't talked basically since.
What are you going to be for Halloween?
I'm Dave Azer, speech coach.
Oh, okay.
Well, you're doing great.
Wait do you see what I'm dragging on the ground
like a typical Azer?
What are you dragging on?
the ground. No, I'm joking. I'm joking.
Oh, okay. All right, listen, we got to...
Arm bar, Todd, man. There you, Dave.
Oh, I just got that. I just got that.
Very good. Why is he here? Can we end this place?
All right, I'll go. Hey, happy Halloween. Couldn't he say to help us get through this game?
No. Give us some starts. Yes, he can.
All right, Nando. Who's your favorite? Maybe even some, like, speech tips.
Who's your favorite? Why don't we talk about my record?
in what league?
The draftathon league
even though I played the league
I wasn't allowed on the show
I think I'm 8-0
are you really
I can check
I might be
better than the year
I stole all Dave's rankings
just to piss him off
hey wait a minute
all right come on
we're going so off track
and no thank you for coming on
happy Halloween
what his record is
that's great
we could do that without him
no
he has to say
Adam I'm going to make you
hit the
force to leave studio button
oh there is
Nando is tied for first
at 6 and 2
He has scored the third most points.
He has a head of all of us.
Yeah, that's good.
It's a great A.
That's almost 8.0.
I miss so much.
How do you rank?
Who's your favorite Packers receiver?
Watson.
I think I still have Dobbs the highest.
Okay.
Start Kraft.
Let's see.
Oh, Jordan Love.
Dave Starters at Jordan Love.
I'm worried about him not throwing a lot.
And when he doesn't throw a lot, his numbers tend to go down.
I feel like this is not.
just a Josh Jacobs game, but maybe like a running game overall for Green Bay.
So I would hesitate to start Jordan Love.
He has three games this season over 20 fantasy points.
All three of them have been when he's been 30 past attempts or more.
Caleb Williams is ahead of him.
If he doesn't get to 30 past attempts, is he going to be trustworthy enough?
Now he can get to, you know, he could have the Matthew Stafford game because I think
the Panthers defense isn't necessarily one to fear.
But I would probably lean, like I'm surprised that his projections, you know, just
he was great last week against Pittsburgh but his again his past times were up so I don't know I think
he's a low end number one quarterback at best okay you would you also start Caleb Williams over him
yeah flacco or Jordan love if flaco plays flaco if if flaco gets in a full practice report on
Friday and we're not you know concerned about game day question mark I mean you'll know obviously
on Sunday with the enactives but I just feel like flacko's a little nerve-wracking just
wrong hit to the shoulder, you know, he's a 40-plus-year-old guy at this point.
Yeah, yeah. Okay, I'm going to read some questions.
Does I make you nervous about the Bengals receivers, too, James? More so Higgins than Chase,
but, I mean, I would start Chase if, you know, Wayne was the quarterback. Swing.
Okay, Jordan Lover or Cardinals quarterback?
Cardinals quarterback. Too much upside.
I agree. Rank these players. RICO Dowdell, Aaron Jones, Debo Samuel, PPR.
Debo, Rico, Jones.
I think I have Rico, Debo, Jones.
Jones is definitely third on the list.
Craft or Gadsden?
Craft.
Agreed.
Watson or Rico Dowdell.
Jamie said Rico.
I agree.
Dobbs or Slayton, half PPR.
I'd go Slayton.
Could it be Slayton?
Really?
Wait, wrong Dana Carvey impression.
No, I go Dobbs.
I'd go Dobbs.
All right, Dobbs had six targets last week wasn't great.
By the way, if you're asking about Tucker Kraft, let's see, Carolina.
I don't even have where they rank against tight ends.
They're not that bad against tight ends, though.
They've faced tough ones.
10 or not, 10.9 or fewer half PPR points to tight ends in five of their past six games.
I do not care.
Okay.
I know we're obviously starting craft,
But every week we get a lot of Kraft or Kittal, like Craft or Gatson, because he's not, he wasn't taken super early.
So I think people have some tough craft calls.
But, okay, let's just start him.
I think anybody who's been rolling at Tide End is a go along with Kittal and Bowers ahead of craft.
Okay.
Rolling meaning like Ferguson's been awesome.
Tyler Warren has been awesome.
Trey McBride has been awesome.
Like, I'll start those guys ahead of Tucker Kraft.
I'd start craft ahead of Ferguson's.
All right.
I finish up with some more RICO Dowdle stuff.
Rico, Dowdell, or Stefan Diggs?
Is that me who went out or you guys who went out?
Oh, Adam.
Say it again, Adam?
Rigo Dada or Stefan Diggs?
I would go.
Doubtle and non and half.
I might go Diggs.
I don't even know if I'd go digs in full.
Okay.
It's close.
Doubtle
I asked
Dowdell or Tracy
right
someone had that
in the chat
I don't know
Tracy
All right
last one
Dowdell or
Xavier Worthy
at Buffalo
Dowell
we're not worthy
man
I don't know
that means I go down
okay
Packers DST
is top three
for Jamie and Dave
next game
Minnesota is at Detroit
oh
name of the game
of the game
Aiden and Abetton Hutchinson, or David Hontgomery.
Okay.
It's out of the game.
The Vikings see the second fewest pass attempts in the NFL on a per game basis.
Jared Gough has thrown fewer than 30 passes in six straight games.
The Lions are 30th in pass rate.
So is that kind of what we're expecting, Jamie?
A lot of running, maybe about 30 passes.
for for Detroit?
I would think that's fair.
You know, I mean, we'll see if the,
the home magic comes into play
here for Jared Gough. They're clearly
heavy favorites. I mean, you're, you know
who you're starting. You're starting for sure.
Jamir Gibbs and Amaro St. Brown, and then it comes
down to what your quarterback situation
looks like. I think golf will finish as a top 10
quarterback this week. I don't know if it'll be a monster game, but I think
good enough, you know, 22 plus points.
Montgomery's, you know, touchdown dependent, but we've seen
this, you know, Vikings' run defense at
times just be awful this season. So it's a good chance for Montgomery, especially in a closing
role to, you know, getting into the end zone. And then Leporta and Jameson Williams, you know,
you read the report about Jameson, hopefully trying to get him going coming off the biweek. So if you're
desperate, I think he's a, you know, good boom or bust number three receiver with the hope that
we see an uptick and targets. This is typically the type of setup that he does well. It just makes
him tough to trust based on the body work this season. And then for Leport, I, I mean, if you want to
say Gadsden over him if you want to say
you know, craft based
on the comment you mentioned about
not being drafted ahead of Leporta.
I can see that happening.
I would probably stick with Leporta over Gadsden
and craft over Leporta if that's the choice.
Okay.
So you said Jameson Williams is a number three.
Not trying to be that guy, but you guys
have him 43rd.
So that must mean
there are a lot. Is Christian Watson a better play
than James and Williams?
They're the same guy, and at least Watson, you know, first game back was heavily involved
in his offense, where we've seen that at times for James and William's not be the case.
So I don't really look at the top 48 as, you know, breaking it down by 12.
There's just too many good receivers.
So, you know, when I get into the high, the low 40s, I still think that's number three
receiver.
Are we ready to believe John Morton?
Are we ready to believe that the Lions are going to air it out in a game where they
might not have to?
And they did something like that against Chicago earlier this year.
I'm not sure if I can buy all the way back in on Jamo
just because of a couple of comments from his coach
or from reporters or what have you.
So if we just talk about the passing game in general for the Lions,
Jared Goff is I think somewhat similar to Jordan Love, right?
Super talented, you know, great offense,
but doesn't throw that much, doesn't run as much as love, obviously.
Minnesota, like I said, they don't see a lot of pass attempts,
but they've been pretty bad against the past.
Six most yards per attempt in the NFL.
The last two quarterbacks to face them,
Jalen Hertz scored 30 points,
Justin Herbert scored 31 points,
and they both threw 23 to 25 passes in that game.
So, you know,
so you guys like golf is on like a higher tier than love, right?
He is for me.
Yeah.
I don't have him as a top 10 quarterback, though.
I just, there are so many other quarterbacks,
I think I have more upside than golf this week.
I like them, but he's not top 12.
for top 10. Would you start golf or Arizona
quarterbacks? Probably Arizona
quarterbacks. I've, I've Kyler over him now, and if I
like Berset for fantasy more than Kyler, I would probably start
Percette over golf too. I would go golf.
Goff or Caleb.
Goff.
Okay. And then
Jamo's a boomer bus play. Laporte, I'll give you a few
more Leportas. I know it was just said. I'm sorry,
but Leporter or Gadsden.
I'll take Gatston.
All right, Laporta for Jamie, Gadsden for Dave, Laporta, or, you wouldn't start Colson Loveland over him, would you?
Nope.
He's an incredibly frustrating player.
I mean, there's no question.
It's pretty annoying.
So, I don't know.
I feel like I have won the Porta League, and I don't even think about streaming.
I just start him, and I just deal with the consequences because you know there's big upside every week.
But Ferguson versus LaPort is pretty interesting.
Where would you guys go there?
Ferguson.
interesting okay um on the other so Montgomery yeah Montgomery or Dowdell Montgomery
I have Montgomery hire you just think he's going to score this week yeah all right
because he's got one game with more than 12 carries and it was that game that homecoming game
against Cincinnati with his sister in attendance where he didn't you throw a touchdown or something
like that where they clearly were trying to get him going but he's usually 12 carries
Minnesota doesn't have very good run defense but okay so Montgomery's a number two running back
Is he better than the Vikings running backs?
Yeah.
Way better.
That's a situation we want to avoid, right?
Like the plague?
Yes, please.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm going to start them.
And monkeys are going to fly out of my butt.
Sorry, throw that in there.
Don't say sorry.
Following you're Wayne Campbell.
You're Wayne Campbell, man.
Okay, excellent.
So Dave, both Darrysoe practiced in full, their left tackle on Wednesday,
then didn't practice Thursday.
But O'Neill, their right tackle's been limited both days.
So, again, we might see a better version of J.J. McCarthy.
Would you guys start Jordan Addison?
He's tough.
I mean, why wouldn't I start Jordan Addison?
Hasn't he earned it?
Is he a must start, basically, at this point?
As a number two receiver, sure.
Dave, yeah, Jamie.
He's a borderline maybe start.
And I mean that in two receiver leagues only.
Three Receiver Leagues, you're definitely starting them.
It's just one of those things where you want to see what this looks like with McCarthy
because it's the first game where they're together.
It's the first game of McCarthy coming back after the extended absence.
There could be some issues here.
And so I want to give Addison the benefit of the doubt.
I don't think the secondary is one to run away from.
I mean, they've played better than I think a lot of people expected,
especially given the injuries of late.
But my hope is we see Detroit build a big.
big lead and Minnesota's forced to throw and that was kind of what happened in week one for
McCarthy right he had the you know the bears were playing with the lead and McCarthy had to make
plays in the in the third and fourth quarter and we started to see him use his legs and he look good
and then you know got Jefferson involved so I don't I don't I'm not I'm certainly not running
away from Addison but he's not ranked in the top 20 I initially started the week with him there but
I think just taking a little bit of a step back because of what McCarthy may or may not do
fair yeah it's a wild card uh the other good thing for the good thing for addison is that kirby joseph
still missing practice uh they're still beat up in the secondary maybe getting a little healthier
the fact that they have a lean mcneal back up front is big but it's it is still a kind of a wounded
secondary and last thing here but tell that to tampa who thought that they'd be able to take
advantage of that and they couldn't yeah i'ma micr robinson roberts is back i thought he's
been missing.
Oh, Branch is back.
He's a one game suspension.
He's definitely back.
Yeah, no, I'm sorry.
I was thinking Kirby Joseph.
But Carlton Davis is out, right?
So, T.J. Hawkinson.
Carlton Davis isn't on the line.
I can't, I always do that with the...
That's what I did with Greg Dulcich.
Yeah, no, who's their second cornerback?
DJ Reed.
DJ Reed.
Sorry.
I always do that with them.
He's out.
Okay.
T.J. Hawkinson, start or sit?
I would try and sit him.
I would, too.
Although I must say it is better for him if both tackles play.
It might not be asked to chip as much.
I don't know if we know the status of Josh Oliver,
but if he's out,
then that'll open up more things for Hawkinson.
If those tackles play,
I'll be a little more encouraged in Jefferson,
Addison,
and maybe even Hawkinson, too,
but he wouldn't correct my top 12.
All right.
So that's Vikings at Lions.
Lions DST is a start?
But the Vikings' DST is not.
Lions or Rams.
Rams are number one.
Lions are Patriots are number two.
Why don't you ask us, lions or Seahawks?
No, lions or Chargers at Tennessee.
I have lions ahead of everybody except the Rams, Patriots, and Seahawks.
Chargers significantly head for me.
Lions or Mr. Big.
Okay.
Isn't that his name?
Okay. All right.
I think so, yes.
What was I going to say?
Not the Wayne's World reference I was expecting.
I couldn't think of a good one.
I don't know.
Benjamin.
We're out of here.
We're not out of here.
We'll be right back.
We're going to take a break.
We got four games left.
San Francisco's at the Giants.
Upset alert.
No.
We'll be right back on fantasy football today.
That's annoying.
What?
You're a muffler.
You don't hear it?
Oh, I don't even notice it.
I usually drown it out with the radio.
How's this?
Oh, yeah.
Way better.
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San Francisco's at the Giants.
Name of the game.
Giants punter Jamie Killin Gillen or J.B. Villan.
That was all I could come up with for that game.
Okay, Giants are at, Giants hosting the 49ers.
I mean, it just, it's unfortunate that we had the injury because you had Cam Scataboo.
Oh, Camp Scataboo is, it's so sad that he's not playing on Halloween weekend because he's perfect for it, absolutely.
Although this is an Halloween weekend.
I guess last week was, because once November comes around, Halloween is over and you are not allowed to dress up or celebrate Halloween.
All the decorations must be removed.
It's the rules.
You don't know the rules.
Oh, I forgot to say, we'll be right back before the next break.
Damn, and I had all these things planned.
Okay, San Francisco's got the Giants and Jamie break down the, uh,
passing in for the Niners for me. Who are you, if any, one other than Kittle, excited to start?
I'm not excited to start any of them, but, you know, Jennings is a number three receiver,
seven targets each of the last two weeks. We said this many times throughout the last week,
especially talking about the quarterbacks, that it was Atlanta when they're playing well,
and then Houston, and that's a tough two-game stretch for any passing attack. And so I think
in looking at it, like Kendrick Bourne, I'm just not as encouraged by it because the last two weeks
have been down for him from a target perspective.
It coincides with George Kittle coming back.
Again, coincides with those two matchups.
But I think he's got a factor in personnel more so than the defense that they're facing.
So I'm hoping that certainly when Purdy comes back, that's the best of Joanne Jennings.
I definitely want to roster him.
He was 64% roster going into Tuesday.
So he should be on your team.
If you need him as number three receiver, he's my favorite of the group.
But really, it's just Kittle and McCaffrey as must start guys.
If we're going to talk about cornerback injuries in Detroit, we have to talk about
them for the Giants, too.
Yeah.
Paul Sinadebo, no practice yet this week.
He might miss the game.
He's their best cover corner.
Cordell Flots and Concussion Protocol.
I don't know if he's likely to play.
Art Green hasn't practiced this week.
Those are three of maybe their top four or five corners on the squad.
They're going to be going with Deontay Banks, who's been burned a ton over his career,
maybe playing a little bit better this year.
Drew Phillips is their slot corner.
The 49ers receivers are going to have some good matchups on the outside.
And if Brock Purdy's back, I feel like that's,
that's an upgrade for the whiteouts too.
So not that I'm racing to start Jennings are born,
but they're going to have probably a better setup than they would normally have
because of this matchup.
Just keep in mind, though, it's a similar personnel situation to what they had last week
when the Giants were all beat up, and it was Goddard scoring two touchdowns.
We thought Devante Smith was going to be an absolute monster.
He wasn't.
The run game was good for the Eagles taking on the Giants defense.
So this could be another McCaffrey Kittle and maybe somebody else steps up.
I mean, I guess so, but Smith had six catches for 84 yards on nine targets, right?
He had a good game.
No, no, no.
We played very well.
Yeah.
He played very well.
I thought Smith was going to be nuclear, you know, without A.J. Brown there.
So, again, sliding scale, I think that they're, you treat them as number of three receivers.
Like, I'm not, this is the most encouraged I've been by Jennings in, in a month.
Right.
Right.
You know what?
It's a good, it's a good DFS play.
It's just a great matchup
And what we've seen
The last couple weeks
As soon as those guys got hurt
It was third quarter
Basically of the Denver game
They gave up 33 points in a quarter
And then last week
They got destroyed by the Eagles
So their defense has fallen apart
With the absence of their defensive backs
And it's even worse now
Than even though they might get
They might get their safety Javon Hallenback
It's even worse now than it was
You know, going into the Philadelphia game
All right, so
If
Okay, Rodgers or 49ers?
Who?
Which are a 49ers?
Rogers or a 49ers quarterback?
Rogers.
Rogers.
Darnold or a 49ers quarterback?
Darnold.
You might talk me into Purdy over Darnold.
And you said that, Wondale, you said, Dave, Wondale was your favorite receiver in this game,
even though all the things we just said about the Niners?
Yeah.
Listen, the one thing about the 49ers that helps the Giants is they have nothing in their pass rush.
So Jackson Dart's going to have time to throw.
That could be good for Slayton.
I have him a little higher than I normally do.
It's going to be good for Wondale.
Might even be good for Theo Johnson.
But I think Dart will have an okay day passing.
And that's on top of his rushing.
Would you start, you know, the safe Wondale Robinson or I'll throw it to you, Dave.
Keon Coleman, you know, and this boom opportunity.
I don't care what kind of an opportunity Keon has.
I can't trust him.
But why?
This is going to be the first.
Alan never throws the ball.
He's going to throw the ball this week.
It's going to happen.
I think Jackson Dart's going to throw the ball a decent amount too, though.
And Wondale's been getting a lot of good volume.
Okay, then fine.
How about Khalil Shakir over these guys?
Would you at least go that way?
I know what you're doing.
Damn it.
All right.
All right, I'm going to have to pick a different game.
I'm going to have to pick a different game.
No, you're not.
There's only one game.
Because that's the game of the week.
Yeah.
The Bills and the Chiefs on CBS, folks.
And it's the game of the week.
Hey, do you have red rope licorice?
Look at that.
No, they're drumsticks.
Oh, they're drumsticks?
I thought they were red with liquors that you were using as drumsticks.
They were used at a Blackhawks game.
That's why they're red.
Okay, cool.
All right.
Giants are interesting here.
Jamie talked to me about Tyrone Tracy and the Giants in general.
All right, Jackson, Dart, or a 49ers receiver?
Who do you like better?
Jackson Dart or a 49ers receiver?
49ers quarterback.
I go Dart.
Christian McCaffrey or Tyrone Tracy.
I would go Christian McCaffrey over two Tyrone Tracys.
Tyrone Tracy or any wide receiver in this game?
Tyrone Tracy.
Do you like Tracy?
I wouldn't mind start.
two Tyrone Tracy's on my fantasy.
Tracy, Jr. and senior.
Jamie, do you like, how much do you like Tracy?
Give me, lay it out for me.
I think he's a good number two running back.
You know, we'll see the wild card is Devin Singletary
and what happens with his role.
And look, we've seen this for Tracy in his rookie season
where he's had some good matchups.
We thought he's going to get volume and he struggled.
So I don't want to say it's slammed dunk for Tyrone Tracy,
but you're just looking at an opportunity.
You know, Cam Scadaboo's got so many touches.
He's been very successful.
He's worked in the passing game.
Tracy's now going to step into that role.
You talked about this, comparing him to his rookie season.
The offensive line's in better shape, mostly just because Andrew Thomas is there.
And I think the quarterback play will hopefully be better as well with Jackson Dart.
So it's a 49ers defense that's been absolutely abysmal against running backs for the last five games.
And so Tracy's got a huge opportunity here.
It's just will he get those touches that we're hoping for.
Will he be the goal line guy?
You know, we've talked about this.
Could be Devin Singletary.
I think he's going to be a three-down running back.
So there's a huge ceiling for him here.
I just don't know where the floor lies because it could be awful if it's not the type of work that we're looking for here from all aspects.
So to me, he's a good number two running back, and I'm excited to start.
My biggest question for him is just, is he going to be the goal line guy?
Are they going to use Singletary?
Don't know.
They kind of split it last year when they were both healthy at the end of the season.
So, yeah, the 49ers, I think they've allowed 15.1 or more PPR fantasy points to a running back in six of eight games.
And, all right, so Wondale is like a number three receiver. Darius Slayton's in that boom bust number three, number four status.
Theo Johnson.
Anybody want to start Theo Johnson?
I do.
I'm starting him this week.
Again, you look at his stretch with dart.
It's been two bad games, and the two bad games were against the same team against Philadelphia.
So, you know, Dave said it.
The opportunity is there.
I think Dart will throw a little bit more just because maybe the lack of faith in the run game or production in the run game from the switch to Scada But to Tracey.
But the 49ers struggled against Tidanz as well.
So there's a chance for him to come in here and be a good target, you know, a productive target at least.
And Daniel Bellinger is also dealing with a neck injury. He's not going to be there.
So low end starter, you know, I wouldn't put much faith in him.
Going back to Tuesday, if you're looking at you.
out what the percentages were, he was 67%
rostered. Obviously, Lovellum was much more widely available.
I had it ranked
with Johnson over Loveland, and you know how much I like Loveland with his
matchup. So I think Theo Johnson's a good
plug-in play if he was available on waivers.
Okay. Let me do some more Jackson Darts here. Jackson DART or
Jackson DART or Jordan Love?
DART. Jackson DART or
Sam Darnold.
DART.
DART.
Daniel Jones or Jackson DART?
Jones.
Daniel Jones.
How do you think the Giants would feel about that question?
All right, questions from the chat.
Darius Slayton, Quentin Johnson, or Jake Ferguson?
PPR.
Ferguson.
Agreed.
Kyle or Murray or Purdy, if he starts.
Four point per passing touchdown.
Kyle.
Jennings, Debo, or Pierce?
Debo.
Debo.
Purdy or Stafford?
Stafford.
Jennings or Keenan Allen?
Allen.
Agreed.
Wondale or Travis Hunter?
Ooh.
Hondo.
Oh, a split there.
Cortland Sutton or Jowan Jennings?
Sutton.
DART or Caleb Williams?
Four point.
DART.
DART.
Really?
Okay.
49ers or Giants?
Four point, that's even easier.
I know.
I mean, I guess, could have a rushing touch on.
49ers or Giants?
D.S.
We got to pick one of these.
DSTs, it would be the Niners.
Okay.
All right.
And that's it for that game.
We are on to Seattle at W.
Eric.
Oh, no, I missed all my scary music.
Where is it?
Oh, Seattle from the state of Washington.
Traveling to the district of Columbia, Washington.
The name of the game, of course, is Washington's tight end.
Bates Motel.
Okay,
stat of the game.
Ken Walker has two carries
from the three-yard line
or closer.
Both of them were in week three
with Zach Charbonnet out.
And Charbonnet has the second most
touchdowns from the one or two-yard line.
The only guy who has more
is Giovante Williams.
Washington's run defense
has been really bad three straight weeks.
Dave,
can we trust any running back in this game?
I think the running back
you trust the most is Walker,
but it's with low-end number-two
running-back expectations.
You're hoping that he gets a little more work
and that the game script is favorable for him and for Charbonnet.
The next running back that I think I like after those two is McNichols
because if the Seahawks build a lead and run the ball a lot
and I think they're going to try and run the ball a lot,
then it means that the commanders are going to have to be
and come from behind, pass heavy mode,
and that's when McNichols plays.
We got a taste of what that looks like last week,
and the production wasn't so bad.
Okay.
it's uh it's not great i mean we're gonna start
riko dowdell over over walker or now
i have a right now running backs over dowdell do you okay yeah and charbonne is actually my
favorite one i just think in terms of trust he's the easiest one to trust well but he but you
know the deal if he doesn't score a touchdown he's gonna have a terrible game and walker has
been what like i mean you know no i i i can certainly understand if we were if we were getting
great production from Walker.
No, I'd go, I'd go dattle.
I'm saying I'd go dattle over both.
Oh, you can go that route, sure.
But I think that we're going to get touchdown opportunities for Charbonnet.
He's delivered in three of his last four games, four touchdowns over that span.
So there's at least enough of a track record and the defense that he's facing to buy into
him getting those chances.
You know, for me, again, using the word trust, Walker's more of a hope, hope that they
went into their biweek and saw that he's got still
some juice left and can be explosive. Hope that
he breaks a big run against his defense. Hope that maybe
we get the game that we saw last time
from him where he had 17 carries as opposed
to 10 in each of the previous two.
So, you know, is he going to get those
chances? I still think he's number two running back.
So I'll take the chance on Charbonnet
finding the end zone and Walker maybe being
explosive in his matchup versus
Dowdell and what he's got to face against Green Bay.
And I'd go the other way on that,
but I do have them ranked relatively close to
each other. I just, I don't think there's any
question about Walker's juice. I think he can still run and he's still easily the more explosive
of the two. And I don't necessarily think that the Searck's going to say, all right, you know
what, enough's enough. We're going to sit Charbonnet and Walker's just going to get, you know,
every single snap. I don't think that's happening. I think they like what they're, what, what they have
planned and I think they'll keep using that. But I don't think it's going to mean that Walker takes a seat
in the second half. I think he's going to get a little bit more work than normal because I'm not
expecting it to be a competitive game. I certainly don't expect Seattle to be chasing points in
this game. And this Washington defense, it's old and it's slow. And that just sets up for Walker to
have a bunch of explosive runs. And he's easily the more explosive of the two. So I'm going to
take the chance on that over Charbonnet and the hope that he finds the end zone. I don't know.
I mean, Sharbonet has outscore over their last four games, Charbonnet has outscored Walker three times
and tied him once.
Because neither of them
catch the ball.
So it's like,
that could obviously change,
but Darnal just is not throwing
to his running back.
He isn't throwing that much
to begin with.
But it really is probably
going to come down to touchdowns.
And Charbonnet clearly has a much bigger
edge there.
But Dave,
I respect.
I respect you.
Respect.
Okay.
None of the,
neither one of these guys,
Jamie might have it differently,
but I don't have either one
in my top 20.
No.
These are at last low end number two runoffice.
And I like them both ahead
of Jacori-Kroski-Marret.
I have them both out of any Vikings running back, any Titans running back.
I've got Walker ahead of Camara.
I should probably have Charbonnet ahead of Camara too.
I think I'm probably a little higher on Darnold than you guys are.
I like Donald this week.
He's got a great floor.
He's one of like maybe 18 quarterbacks that have that safe 18.
This is the perfect setup for him.
It's what we've seen him have success in so far this season, the two games prior to facing Houston.
there's only been two quarterbacks this season
that have failed to get to 20 fantasy points
against this defense and one of them
was Herbert who had 19.5.
The other one was Russell Wilson in week one.
There's just a lot to love about this.
Like you said, defense is old, it's slow.
They're missing their best pass rusher
for the last two weeks.
This will be the second week at least.
It just feels like Donald could come in
and have a big game.
Yeah, no, unfortunately, you could argue
that the commanders may not put up a lot of points
and he might not throw.
I don't know that I like him more than you.
I think now that I think of it,
It's just a really, as you guys have said, and Heath said yesterday,
it's a really good week for quarterback.
So, Darnold being about 15th in the rankings is not an indictment on Darnold.
But what I love about it, I said this on the Waverwire show.
Donald leads the NFL in yards per attempt.
The commanders are last in the NFL defensively in yards per attempt.
They are a horrible past defense, 21.9 or more fantasy points to six of eight
quarterbacks, 29 fantasy points to three quarterbacks this year.
You don't have to throw much to be good against Washington.
So you can start him.
But he's not a top 12 guy.
We talked about Seattle running backs.
We're going to start Jackson Smith and Jigba.
Any interest in Cooper Cup?
He was added to the injury report on Thursday.
So keep an eye on that.
And if he's out, maybe Tori Horton, you know, can have a big player or two.
Is he on the injury report, too?
I didn't see if Horton was, but maybe.
I missed something.
I'll double check.
Okay.
And any interest in Seattle tight end?
I'd rather go to touchdown a bus type of guy, so desperation play.
Jamie, as Dave looks that up, Jamie,
starter sit, Jaden Daniels.
Low end starter.
We talked about this on CBS Sports Network yesterday.
I think we kind of all came to the same conclusion.
Like we're putting him at 12, I think, across the board,
mostly out of like hope and a little bit of fear
because the defense is as good as it is.
How healthy is the hamstring doesn't have Terry McCorren.
So you don't want to miss out on the upside of what it is.
I don't necessarily buy Seattle blowing them out
because Jaden Daniels is still good and can make plays
and obviously keep this team in it.
plus they're at home.
So I think that they'll move the ball enough.
It's just a matter of like where is he getting his production from.
So I like Zach Ertz, as we talked about.
I think Debo Samuel will have somewhat of a bounceback game to what extent we'll find out.
They're not going to run the ball.
So Daniel's going to have to put a lot on his shoulders.
And so I think low-end starter, better than Darnold, better than Trevor Lawrence,
better than for now 49ers quarterbacks.
It comes down to like, do you want to start Jackson Dart over him?
Do you want to start Caleb Williams over him?
Joe Flacco even over him.
That's, I think, where some of the questions come into play.
So we'll see how the injury report checks out for some of these guys.
But I think Daniel's low end start.
I have him in one league.
I have him with Caleb Williams, 10 team league.
I'm starting Caleb Williams, Lord.
I would too.
Injury report for Seattle, there's no Torrey Horton on it, but Devon Wetherspoon,
Devin Wetherspoon, full practice, so he'll be back.
Leonard Williams is going to play.
DeMarcus Lawrence is going to play.
Derek Hall is going to play.
Is there anybody else?
Julian Love hasn't practiced.
no he's not going to play that's that that's like it like this secondary is getting healthy just in time for a banged up and depleted commander's offense this this is not going to be an easy game it's very hard to rank jaden daniels as high as we normally would because of the situation he's been pretty good guys i mean his worst oh he has but not the offensive line is going to be missing tonsill i think tonsillitis yeah right uh and and we know that scary terry isn't going to play who deba
You've heard me.
Terry, Terry.
Okay, Dave, does this offense make you want to spew?
Ugh.
Spue.
If you're going to spew,
spew into this.
Okay, let's, I get it.
Quick thing on Debo.
I originally had him ranked pretty high this week.
I went back and I watched his snaps from last week.
He can't separate right now.
And he's getting a bunch of short targets.
and it makes me nervous that he doesn't have anywhere near the same type of upside as he had earlier in this year.
So count me out on him as a top 24 wide receiver, especially against this matchup.
Jamie, you said Debo's like a default top 24 receiver, right?
He's a low and number two receiver.
I mean, again, this is the setup where he's had success.
And I don't know when his career he's ever been able to separate.
So we'll see how he performs with his, with hopefully, you know, an uptick in targets.
And again, you know, last week, Mariotta coming back from the injury.
two weeks now removed from the injury, not on the injury report.
So I'm hoping that he's healthy.
It's more hope than anything else.
Zach Ertz is 11th for Jamie, eighth for Dave, and 12th for Heath.
Dave has him one spot ahead of Travis Kelsey, or as someone in the chat said earlier,
Travis Kelsey.
Dave has him ahead of Kincaid and Gadsden.
Jamie does not have him ahead of Kelsey or Gadsden or Kincaid.
Yeah, you do have him ahead of Kincaid, yes.
But Ertz is a low-end starter.
I'm going to read some chat questions to finish this game.
Darnel or Flacko?
Flacko as a new.
Debo, Aaron Jones or Chimery, D.K. PPR.
Hmm.
Debo.
I did not move Debo so far down that I would rather start D.K.
Jaden Daniels or Daniel Jones?
Jones.
Flex, Charbonnet, Gadsden, or Henderson?
I think I got Gadsden the highest.
See, about Henderson once the injury port comes out.
but I would probably go guessing.
Pick two, Charbonnet,
Kareem Hunt, Chase Brown.
Hunting Brown.
Cooper Cup, Tony Pollard, Tage Spears,
pick two.
I'm never starting both Titans running back,
so I would go Spears and Cup.
Yeah.
Ken Walker or Cortland Sutton, PPR.
Sudden.
Agreed.
Darnold, Gough, or Gawf, or Caleb?
Gave.
DART or Daniels, 4-point.
Dart.
Dart.
All right, that's it for this game.
Pardon me.
All right, let's go to New Orleans.
A terrifying trip to Los Angeles to face the Rams.
Name of the game, Blake Gorham.
Okay.
Dave, let's make this game.
That's terrible.
That's one of my favorite ones.
Blake Gallum.
Dave, let's make this game easy here.
Starts and sits for the Saints and Rams.
you want to say something scary you should just said watch the saints yeah tyler's suck okay
dave uh uh the only saint you can feel good about starting is chris olave the only ram
you could feel nervous about starting the only two uh that come to my mind are they're tyler higby
and blake corum you know what to do with everybody else that i didn't say this is not exactly a
start them all, sit them all, because I think Rashid Shaheed, I think the passing game is
interesting. You could see them throwing a ton like they did last week. They threw 50.
Yeah, but it's Tyler Shuck and not Spencer Rattler. And so I would expect a slight
downgrade, especially for Shahid, who's just so dependent on the deep ball to get huge numbers.
Now, look, Shahid got open for a deep ball. Should have been, I think, a 34-yard touchdown,
and Shuck missed them. Most of what Shuck was- That happens with Shuck when it's not a fade.
It happens with a lot of quarterbacks, unfortunately,
but, you know, deep balls are tough.
But it was a lot of, get the ball out of your hand quickly,
really short area, first read, boring, checkdown stuff.
The kind of stuff you see,
the kind of stuff we saw from Spencer Rattler
at the beginning of this season.
And then he got better and he started throwing downfield.
But I could see, like, the old Chrysalave games
with a lot of targets, a lot of catches,
but really not a lot of yards.
It's kind of, I think to me, Jamie,
what I could see from this passing game,
which does make those guys pretty interesting in PPR.
I know that we're mostly going to start OLAVe.
I guess real quick, would you start Olave or Devante Adams?
Adams.
Adams.
All right.
Would you start Olavee or Giants 49ers receivers?
Olavee.
And now, same question with Shaheed versus the Giants and 49ers receivers.
I would start Robinson over Shaheed.
Probably Jennings over Sheet, too.
I'd go Shaheed over Jennings.
I feel like they're kind of the same, but Chehitte is a little more upside.
Zach Ertz or Joanne Johnson?
Ertz.
Ertz.
Joanne Johnson or Theo Johnson?
Theo.
I have Joanne a little higher.
All right.
Let's call him a top 15 guy, top 16 guy.
T.J. Hawkinson or Theo Johnson?
Theo.
I'll probably take the chance on Hawk if that offensive line's okay.
All right.
So we're going to do one thing.
Do you mean Joanne, though, because we're talking about the Saints?
Rank all three.
Hawkinson, Joe.
that's how I have it.
Jamie, Hawkinson, Theo?
Oh, Theo, Joanne Hawkinson.
All right, Jamie, you talk about Camara
and your expectations
and who you'd start ahead of him and whatnot,
and then Dave, you do that with Stafford.
Jamie, go.
I have very minimal expectations
for Camara to be successful in this game.
The Rams defense is fantastic, number two,
and few as fantasy points allow to the position.
They have yet to allow a touchdown
on the ground to a running back.
Camara has not scored since week one.
He's just not running very well.
The offensive line's a mess since McCoy got hurt.
It wasn't even great with McCoy in there.
So coming off a by,
Rams should be able to swallow up Camara
and not have to worry about him having a big game.
But this is the exact situation
where we get fooled by the fantasy gods, right?
Where here's the Rams,
they've been awesome against the run.
And now Alvin Camer goes out
and he has a bunch of touchdown.
Why?
Because it's stupid and fantasy is stupid sometimes.
He doesn't even their goal on that.
I'm just messing around.
I'm not starting Alvin Camara because of that.
Give me a break.
All right, Dave, you're up for Stafford.
Stafford is a top 10 quarterback.
He's got Nakua and Adams to throw to.
The Saints defense isn't very good.
We've seen the Rams, even when the game script's been favorable,
Stafford will throw five touchdowns.
It's literally what they did in their last game.
New Orleans offense is not going to be very good.
The Rams defense should swallow them up
and Stafford should have plenty of opportunities to have a hyper-efficient game.
He's basically a must-start quarterback.
Questions from the chat?
Olave or Shakir, non-P-P-R.
Alave.
I still have Olave over Shakir.
Rams D is a must start, right?
Yes, he is there.
The best. D.S.D. you could start this week, in my opinion.
Devante Adams or George Pickens?
Adams.
I think I agree.
I do.
Kyle says, it's Olave!
Like Frankenstein.
That's good.
That's clever.
And Stafford...
Finally, someone with a clever...
I know.
Stafford or Jaden Daniels.
Stafford.
Agreed.
All right.
next game last game is just real quick uh yeah blake gorham um not a bad desperation play got 12 carries
last time they played in a blowout and may get similar type of run against the saints so it's not
he didn't do much with he had 43 total yards they won't catch in the game against jacksonville but
would not be surprising if he has a similar situation and and just in the same same scenario
uh manuel wilson also you know if they blow out the panthers sure he's some similar had 11 carries
last week against the Steelers.
A couple of the running backs in that vein.
In fact, I like these guys better.
Our Monong guy with the Bears against Cincinnati, Cincinnati.
And we talked about Jeremy Mick Nichols for a second.
If it's full PPR, I don't mind him either.
Last game.
Oh, and Breshard Smith, too.
We can do better than this.
Arizona, at Dallas, your name of the game.
Trey McBride of Chucky
Not bad
Thank you
That was another one of my favorites
Okay
Favorite quarterback in this game
Back
Rain Dakota Prascott
Second favorite wide receiver in this game
Pickens
George Pickens
Favorite tight end
McBride
Trey McBride of Frankenstein
All right, so the easy ones are Dack and Javante and Lamb.
Pickens, too.
He's not that easy.
I think Pickens and Harrison, no matter what you're starting them.
Well, Pickens for sure.
Harrison, I think you're starting.
You'd have to be really loaded at receiver to not.
Adam, how do you miss Silence of the Seedy Lamb?
Good question.
Ooh, how about this one?
Count Dacula.
Okay, thank you.
Kyler Murray and Jacoby Brissette.
Let's say they're ranks similarly, Dave.
They are, you know, ahead of behind, who,
give me the range for these quarterbacks.
Kyler is ahead of Goff, Rogers, Lawrence, Darnold, Love,
Boenicks.
And would I move Brissette ahead of Jaden Daniels?
that might be a tough sell for me, but I'd probably put him ahead of Flacco.
I'm impressed with how he's played the last couple of weeks.
This is one of the easiest matchups that a quarterback can have.
Dallas doesn't get a lot of pressure on the quarterback.
Their secondary is banged up and not great.
This is a huge opportunity for Arizona to put up points.
So I'd be a little more optimistic because Brissette's been throwing well.
I am hopeful that Kyler can throw well because he hasn't been great this year.
But even going back to Dallas, we talked about this on CBS Sports.
network. He's got a long
and storied history of playing
at AT&T Stadium. He's a Texas
kid. High school, college, pros
undefeated in that stadium
and I think he's going to be amped up to play
if he does play. So Kyler Murray
in that top 12 range for me, for sure.
Jamie,
Jake, let's see, someone had
a, no,
it's not Jason Ferguson, it's Jake Ferguson,
Jason Voorhees Ferguson. Fine, you know what,
I'll play along.
Jason for he's Ferguson one target. Sorry, that was super loud. One target last week. Give me a reason why I should be confident starting him.
Everything he's done prior to last week. I mean, guys are going to have bad games at times, especially when he shares the field with two very good players and he was playing a really good defense. So I'm going right back to Jake Ferguson, no issues.
Okay, but he's had two bad games out of four with C.D. Lamb. So I'm not even sure I care about what he did in the game.
without C.D. Lamb, he scored 7.3, 16.8, 21.9, and zero fantasy points with Lamb.
Now, this is a great matchup. They stink against him. That's what I'm saying. Like,
you're not going to get away from him. And think about the two games that you said that he had that
did well, that he did well in with that 16 plus and 21 plus. Like that's, I'm not benching that
potential ever. Yeah. Arizona actually has had a pretty good pass defense. They are eighth best against
quarterbacks seven fewest yards per attempt only two quarterbacks have had good games against
them they're really bad against tight ends though um i don't know if that factors in at all with
george pickens like you guys just think this game's a shootout and start everyone that's good
basically pretty much i'm i'm starting all the relevant cowboys as dave said i think with the cardinals
you know the the the question would be is how much faith do you have in kiler and every quarterback
against them has been 23 or more fantasy points you know jacobi brissette's probably not going to have
bring as much confidence in fantasy managers but the matchup is great and so i think if you see him
sitting out there on waivers and we get the word on saturday that murray is not going to play i don't
think that's going to happen but if that does then you just go and and pick him up in the case of
uh my name's sake zonovan bam night um uh you know you look at what his chances are as well
nine point four ppr points or more in all three games that he's played since tray benson's been
injured and now you're talking about a dallas defense that's number two in most
fantasy points allowed to running backs like this is just a perfect setup for him he scored two
touchdowns in three of those games so you know we'll see what they do with michael carter was
signed back to their practice squad i don't know i can't imagine them not giving night the chance
to get 15 total touches in this game and that should lead to a you know fairly successful performance
i would hope for the same just to put it out there keiler's best game this year and he he hasn't
played a defense as bad as this although he did play tennessee uh 22.3 fantasy points in six
point passing for sets last two games 23.8, 24.7. So, I mean, he's been getting the job
he's a better thrower right now than Kyler has been, whether or not that changes and Dallas
makes Kyler look better than he is. We'll see. It doesn't, it shouldn't discourage you from
starting Kyler, but I think anybody that you feel like is safer and has higher upside is an
easy quarterback to go with over Kyler. Yes, a couple of Kyler puns I've seen is.
Diler Murray and
Killer Murray
Thoughts on Javante in this game
Kevin wants to know in the chat
He should be really good
The Cardinals have allowed
This just as a floor
They've allowed 12.4 or more
PPR fantasy points
To a running back in every game
So it's a good matchup for Javante
And he's obviously been a star this year
All right I'll finish off with some chat questions here
Ferguson or Gadsden and PPR
Ferguson
I agree
and then Witt says
You're not Savior Worthy
You're not Savior Worthy
Bam Knight or Chase Brown
Brown
Who do I have higher? I have
Brown higher but it's
not by much
We have Matthew
Stabford in the other game
Sam Darnold or Kyler Murray
We're going Kyler here
Kyler or Caleb Williams
Oh Caleb
Tyler and Kevin
Pitts or Ferguson
Ferguson.
I got one last thing to say about this game.
One thing that does scare me a little bit.
Amnight's been pretty good.
You know, he's not great.
He's not going to run away from anybody.
He's got, like, no explosiveness.
But he's been solid.
If he has a good game here,
I wonder what it means for Trey Benson.
Not for Settuc Benson.
I wonder what it means for Trey Benson.
I wonder if they go to a committee.
Is that a concern for you guys?
If I'm the Trey Benson manager and I don't have Knight,
I am rooting very hard against him in this matchup.
I mean, it certainly could be the case.
You know, they were going with James Connor and Trey Benson to start the season, you know,
so they're not opposed to, I think, using two running backs.
It's just the question of, like, what role will Knight have and what role will Benson have?
You know, will they put, well, they, if Knight has a dominant game here, you know, we get the Rico Dattle Chuba Hubbard situation.
Does Knight, you know, Warren enough, you know, playing time to stay in that role?
I'm not too concerned.
I think it's Tray Benson's opportunity when he comes back to what extent we'll find out.
All right.
If you have any Halloween puns, now it would be the time to send them in.
What are you going trick-or-treating tonight?
Are you staying home and giving out the candy?
No, we're going out to two of my son's friends, so a big group of kids going.
We're going every, it's like three or four families, and they all have a theme of we're a basketball, somebody's football, somebody's baseball, somebody's baseball.
I don't remember if there's a soccer or hockey.
Cool.
But my wife and I were dressing as basketball referees and they're going as basketball players.
Nice.
This is, I don't know if I told you this.
I told Dave.
So I ordered the Wayne costume and then it came.
And my wife, she has, she has Wayne's exact hair, just longer.
She's the perfect Wayne.
So we were going to go as SpongeBob characters because my son is SpongeBob.
But then she saw the costume and she really wanted to be Wayne.
So I then had to buy the Garth costume for me, and I'm going as Garth tonight.
I am Wayne right now, and I am Garth tonight.
But I hope everybody has...
I think you pull off Garth more than Wayne.
I like to play.
I just don't have the drumsticks.
But yeah, thank you all for watching.
I mean, imagine there was a store that told drumsticks.
Amazing.
I don't even know where I go.
Oh, I think I know where I go.
Okay, so, you know what?
I have time today.
Maybe I'll commit to it.
So thanks, everybody.
Have a wonderful Halloween.
And this has been...
Fantasy football today, party time.
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