Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC Home Games) (12/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: December 24, 2020We've got the seven NFC home games plus MIA-LV on today's show. There are a number of tough calls at WR (1:30), but does that include D.K. Metcalf going up against the Rams? Find out the state of WRs ...in Week 16, players we love (8:40) and players to avoid (12:45). Marvin Jones is set up for a big day, but you might want to sit Kareem Hunt ... News and notes (16:35), rankings disputes (21:00) for D.J. Moore, Nelson Agholor, Mike Davis and Tyler Lockett, plus the Startometer (31:00) for CAR-WAS, TEN-GB and MIA-LV ... Start or Sit for Eagles-Cowboys (35:40), Rams-Seahawks (50:00), Bucs-Lions (53:40), Vikings-Saints (1:00:40), 49ers-Cardinals (1:06:00), Panthers-Washington (1:10:40), Titans-Packers (1:14:40), Dolphins-Raiders (1:17:10) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Do you want to win a prize for the holidays? Go to cbssports.com/happyholidays to enter. 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ Want winning picks each morning in under 10 minutes? Subscribe to 'The Early Edge: A Daily SportsLine Betting Podcast' on Apple, Spotify, Stitcher or wherever else you listen to podcasts. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben.
Start or sit for mostly the NFC home game.
It's calling a little bit of an audible today.
We got the Friday and the Saturday games
and the rest of the NFC slate.
And most of those Friday, Saturday games
are, of course, NFC home games.
You don't really care.
It's start or sit.
It's the first one of two.
We'll talk about players we love.
We'll talk about players we don't like.
We got some good rankings disputes today.
Mike Davis, Nelson Aguilar among them.
Let's see who else we got.
DJ Moore, Tyler Lockett.
Looking forward to getting into those.
Adam Azer, Jamie Eisenberg, Heath Cummings, Ben Schrager
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What's up, Heath?
You ready for week 16?
I am fired up and ready for week 16, Adam.
Wow.
Jamie, how about you?
Yeah, week 16.
Can't wait.
Exactly.
Exactly.
All right. Wait, wait, wait. I'm going to get too many complaints about me mumbling i'm sorry week 16 yay let's go i heard that i got
that all right guys um heath i wanted to start out you you think did you say you think wide
receiver stinks this week um i don't like wide receiver at all this week no i'm not a fan of the position at all
there are maybe like 17 wide receivers that i really feel pretty good about and then there's
a big jumbled mess and there's like in fairness to the position there are like 45 wide receiver threes. So that's nice.
That's good.
But not enough guys to fill out my top 24 for sure.
So who's nervous about DK Metcalf?
Do you guys have DK Metcalf in any lineups?
And he had, in the first meeting against the Rams,
two catches for 28 yards on four targets.
Anybody considering sitting him?
No. I mean, you can't considering sitting him? No.
I mean, you can't consider sitting him
if you have Brandon Ayuk.
I'm trying to think of somebody else. Jarvis Landry.
I like Landry better.
I would actually start Marvin Jones over him.
And Marvin Jones, you can consider those three, sure.
Are you doing that with the assumption that Stafford is playing?
Yes.
I mean, at this point, Stafford is playing.
Okay, but if he doesn't... Right, we should
probably just assume that he is. I haven't seen any
indication that he's not playing. Now, he may not finish
the game, but
at least he's going to start the game.
I just want to stay on this for a second. Amari Cooper
week one, 10 catches for 81 yards.
Very good. Stefan Diggs week
three, four catches, 49 yards
and a touchdown. So, I guess saved his bacon there. McL week three. Four catches, 49 yards, and a touchdown.
So, I guess saved his bacon there.
McLaurin, three catches for 26 yards.
Allen Robinson, four for 70.
DK Metcalf, two for 28.
DeAndre Hopkins, eight for 52 and a touchdown on 13 targets.
Kind of scary.
I don't know.
Where do you have Metcalf ranked?
These are,
by the way,
these are,
by the way,
the stud wide receivers against the Rams in case people didn't figure that out.
Sorry,
Jamie,
what'd you say?
13.
Yeah.
He's right around top 12.
Okay.
I see Deontay Johnson ahead of him for Heath.
Jamie,
how about that?
Deontay Johnson or DK Metcalf?
Yeah.
I mean,
I,
I can certainly buy that.
I don't have that rank
that way, but that may change before the end of the day.
All right. In PPR. Not in PPR,
he's going to stay where he is. Like I said, just outside
my top 12. He may fall a little bit in PPR.
As a matter of fact, I'll do that now. I like that.
Okay. All right. And we'll find out
later why one of these two has Tyler
Lockett in his top 20 and the other does not have
him in his top 30.
Tell me what you think of the stat of the day.
I was looking at Ryan Tannehill and facing the Packers
and how much is he going to throw.
So I said, I wonder what his fantasy points per pass attempt are.
So I looked at the top 10 quarterbacks in total fantasy points
and compared their points per attempt.
Lamar Jackson, who I think is QB 10, he's all the way at the bottom,
he's way at the top in terms of fantasy points for pass attempt. Lamar Jackson, who I think is QB 10, he's all the way at the bottom, he's way at the top
in terms of fantasy points per pass attempt.
Makes sense because he doesn't throw much
and he runs a ton. He's.98
points per pass attempt. Rogers,.86.
Murray,.83.
Runs a ton.
Tannehill,.83 as well.
A little bit, you know, we'll go to decimals.
A little bit behind Kyler Murray.
That's followed by Wilson, then Watson,
then Mahomes, he's seventh,
then Josh Allen.
Justin Herbert and Tom Brady are way
behind the pack. They are, like, much worse than
the others in terms of fantasy points per pass attempt.
But Tannehill stood out, Heath.
He's basically, other than Jackson and Murray,
the Russian guys, he's the second most efficient
quarterback in fantasy points per pass
attempt behind only Aaron Rodgers, and those two
are squaring off.
Yeah, I mean,
we've said it a lot this year. He was the
second best quarterback in fantasy
after he took over last year. He's been
a top six or seven guy so far
this season, and now he's in a spot where he's
going to, like, I think you just keep
ranking him in the top 12, and if you have Ryan Tannehill, you're
almost certainly starting him.
Is he going to throw it a lot in this?
What do you guys think about Green Bay, Tennessee,
one of the more intriguing games on the schedule?
I mean, if you go back to the Cleveland game, which I think is a fair guesstimate for what Tannehill will do
because they were down early in that game
and they were chasing points the entire game,
I think he threw the ball, I'm going to tell you in one second, 45 times in that game and they were chasing points the entire game i think he threw the ball i'm gonna tell you one second uh 45 times in that game i don't see that happening
well like i think the question is yeah how many 60 yard touchdown runs does derrick henry have
in the first half so i i try to map this out. Pass attempts when they've allowed 27 or more points. So that's
what this is what's so interesting about Tennessee. Even when they give up a lot of points, they still
run the ball. Seven games, they've given up 27 or more points, and he's thrown 30 or more passes in
five of those seven games. That's a great number for Tannehill. And I think I'm going to get a lot
of Tannehill questions. It's going to be Tannehill or Jalen Hurts, Tom Brady. We always get Tannehill questions.
But they've given up 27 or more points seven times.
He's thrown 30 or more passes in five of those games.
He's only had two games with – he's had three games with 37 or more.
So he doesn't always air it out.
But you get 30 – this is what I'm saying.
You get 30 passes from Ryan Tannehill.
You give him his points per fantasy – you give him his points per attempt.
That's 25 points right there.
That part of the math doesn't work because part of the reason that he has such a high point for fantasy attempt
is because he has these A.J. Brown, Corey Davis 70-yard touchdown plays.
And the games that he has those plays,
he has low pass attempts and high fantasy points.
His point per pass attempt
in games where he throws
30 plus passes
would be much worse
than his points per pass attempt
in games when he throws
25 passes.
Okay.
Because part of the reason
he's throwing 25 passes
is because he lost your plays.
You walk in knowing
that there's a floor
of 20 fantasy points
because that's basically
what he gives you.
Yeah.
And so it's where's the ceiling?
Is the ceiling anywhere close
to the 30 plus points.
And so I think he has that in this game because of the potential of volume.
Okay.
But the problem with that is,
is that even though they may be chasing points in this game,
the weakness for the Packers is their run defense.
Yeah.
So they still may run even though they're down.
And I'm sure Arthur Smith,
the offense coordinator for the Titans,
who should be a head coaching candidate,
is probably looking at it saying, how do I slow down Aaron Rodgers?
I'm sure Mike Vrabel is saying that.
How do we slow down Aaron Rodgers?
How do we do what they do, which is dominate time of possession?
Well, you have the best running back in football right now.
See if you can dominate time of possession.
Yeah, no team has seen fewer plays on defense than the Packers.
That's the other part of that.
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Jamie, Championship Week, who's our star of the week?
David Johnson, just like I thought when the season
started. When we got to Championship Week, we'd be
going with the Houston Texans running back.
So,
love the fact that he was so involved
in the passing game last week. Love the fact
that he's taking on the Bengals. And love
the fact that Duke Johnson didn't practice again on Wednesday.
So he's dealing with a neck injury. So I think all those
things kind of factor in,
but it's a great spot for David Johnson who,
you know, has been a very good fantasy running back when healthy,
not a great one at times this season,
but I think as we saw last week,
if they can throw him the ball again,
and there's two of three games without Wolf Fuller,
where a Texans running back has at least six catches.
So if he can be anywhere close to that against the Bengals,
who have struggled with running backs all season, but certainly lately,
I think there's a great opportunity for David Johnson to be a top 10 running back.
Okay. Are you going to change your outlook if Duke Johnson ends up playing?
I will not remove him from start of the week,
but I will lower him a couple spots in the rankings.
Right now he is pending Ezekiel Elliott's return to practice and Tony Pollard getting dropped down a couple spots in the rankings right now he is uh pending ezekiel elliott's return to practice and tony pollard getting dropped down a few spots uh he will be in the
top 10 still are there any waiver wire running backs that you were starting ahead of him
including levion bell tony pollard savann akmed uh daryl henderson no the only one that i would
consider if he still qualifies as a waiver wire
running back would be Leonard Fournette.
If in fact,
Duke Johnson does play.
But I think I would still keep David Johnson ahead of him in my rankings.
Okay.
And the week has not gone well for the waiver wire running backs.
Miles Gaskin is going to play and Ezekiel Elliott is trending in that
direction as well.
Well,
Jeff Wilson.
Oh yeah.
Oh,
all right.
So,
so you wouldn't start Wilson over Duke, over David Johnson?
I would not.
Okay.
Heath, who do you love this week?
Huh.
You know, it's funny.
I was just sitting here.
I didn't know who the star of the week was.
I was learning it, and I was thinking about all these questions.
I was listening attentively.
It never even crossed my mind that you might ask me who I love this week.
No, and I didn't give you enough time to prepare this morning either.
I was early.
Right.
I would say that I love Marvin Jones.
I've got him as a top 10 wide receiver.
We do expect Matthew Stafford to play.
Jones targets have been out of this world, and he does have a stinker or two, and there's
a little bit of a risk in terms of floor, but at least 12 targets in three of his past
four games.
He may have like the second or third most targets in football since week 10, 10, 6,
12, 12, 8, 12, 12,
eight,
12 in those games.
And for the most part,
he's been fantastic,
including last week when he scored 27 fantasy points.
Ooh,
do you want me to pour some cold water here?
He said eight to 12 targets in five of his last six games.
So I looked at all the wide receivers that had exactly eight to 12 targets against Tampa Bay.
There have been nine of them.
You know, like this is so Azerstat.
How many of them were with Carlton Davis
not on the field?
Well, he practiced, didn't he?
He was limited.
He did not practice yesterday.
He did not practice?
That would change things.
No, he had a groin injury.
I thought he was limited.
So there have been nine wide receivers
with eight to twelve targets they've been they've been fine they've scored 19 10 14 12 21 15 10 7 and
17 fantasy points so four of them had 12 or fewer fantasy points i mean just last like three days
ago or something calvin ridley and russell gage combined for like 50
fantasy points yeah they did no it's just interesting because tyree kill had 270 yards
against this defense yeah he's not tyree kill robert woods and cooper cup combined for 275 yards
against this defense okay so you're not worried about the matchup? I am not particularly worried about the matchup.
Okay, good.
And who do we, who are we sitting?
Who wants to go first?
Who are we sitting this week?
Player to avoid?
I'm scared of Chris Godwin.
I don't know.
I think I'm probably starting him against Jamie
in one of our leagues
because I'm not getting Christian McCaffrey back,
which is sad.
I'm going to go in second place,
but his target share 11.8% over the past two weeks,
he's been a low end number three wide receiver since Antonio Brown joined the
Buccaneers.
And there's like,
he might score a touchdown.
The Buccaneers are going to score a lot of touchdowns against the Detroit
lines.
That's the one thing that might keep him in my lineup but the volume's just not there they're spreading it around
a fifth of the targets go to running backs whether it's LaShawn McCoy or Leonard Fournette
Mike Evans and Antonio Brown are leading the team in targets and then you've got the tight
ends taking up a fifth as well Godwin's the odd man out right now. I co-sign you sitting Chris Godwin this week.
You're not sharing the same sentiment?
I mean, I would never bench a Tampa Bay wide receiver against the secondary. So, yes,
the target share is bad, but he said
there's so much touchdown potential
for him in this game that
he could score twice.
He may not get double
digits in targets, but I think we'll probably still see
him in around six or seven.
And so I don't know if you need much more than that against Detroit.
Would you guys, I know Heath would start Marvin Jones over Chris Goblin.
How about you, Jamie?
Oh, I would. I think Chris Goblin's in it.
I think Marvin Jones, excuse me, he's in a better spot,
but I just look at that.
This Detroit secondary is such a mess and this defense is such a mess
that with the way Brady's playing right now
all of his receivers are in play like I have uh Antonio Brown just outside my top 24 I think all
three of those guys are worth starting okay so who do you want to sit this week then I'm nervous
about Kareem Hunt uh and it has nothing to do with necessarily the Jets run defense which they just
lost Quinn and Williams for the rest of the season. It's more about how game flow goes and game script for him. They've won three of their last four games.
And in three of those last four games, Kareem Hunt has been bad because they've won. And in the game
that they lost against Baltimore, he was fantastic. And so it's a pretty easy pattern to follow that
when they're winning, he's just not as much part of what they do. And so in those three victories, he's got one touchdown,
only seven catches on nine targets.
In the game that they lost, he was awesome against Baltimore.
So I just don't see him having a huge role unless they just decide
to give him some opportunities in garbage time.
But we saw the last time they were in garbage time against the Giants,
it was Dearness Johnson getting the opportunity to help kill the clock. So it could be a bad game flow for a team that's
10 point favorites against the Jets team that I know they won last week. So you have to factor
that in. Will they surprise you again? I just don't anticipate Kareem Hunt having a huge role.
He could score. He could obviously do something that you would regret sitting him. And I'm not
saying he's an outright sit, but I just don't love the setup for him if they're going to win this game and win this game by double
digit points it would be pretty funny if jacksonville won this week and the jets also won
so uh um according to our our source in jacksonville the the the phones were ringing
off the hook for season tickets already that's how excited they are about the opportunity to
get trevor lawrence they they come way the opportunity to get Trevor Lawrence. They come way
too close to winning games, though, so
they better stop that.
Well, our buddy,
you can probably guess who it is,
go ahead, drink,
said that they should
not play James Robinson because he gives
them too much of a chance to win.
Or Minshew, I guess. Would you start
Jeff Wilson over Kareem Hunt?
I would, yes.
Even in PPR.
How about Chris Goblin or Kareem Hunt?
Guys, who do you like better?
I like Chris Goblin better.
Goblin in PPR for sure.
All right, let's go to our news and notes here.
We got a lot of them.
Jacksonville hasn't decided on a starting quarterback.
Here's your quarterback news.
Derek Carr practiced in full. Are you guys ranking Carr or
Mariota? Carr.
Anytime somebody practices in full, we rank them.
Okay. Do you like Derek Carr
against Miami?
I do not. I mean, the
Dolphins secondary has been
fantastic all season. Certainly lately, the only
quarterback to get over 20 points against them was Mahomes
and we saw he threw three interceptions and had 21 fantasy points.
So a banged-up – like, this is the risk you run in a two-quarterback
or super flex league is that while he's practicing in full, is he 100%?
And do you run the risk of, like we saw with Stafford last week,
where if the game is out of hand, they pull him or he pulls up lame
with his injury.
So it's a risk
to trust him in those formats.
But correct me if I'm wrong, Stafford
never practiced in full last week.
Right? No, but
we know he's dealing with an injury.
Yeah, but the practicing in full
is encouraging.
Very encouraging, yeah.
Let's fly through these. Ready? Who's going to start at quarterback
for Washington?
Dwayne Haskins.
Okay.
Matthew Stafford's questionable, but we expect him to play.
Daniel Jones is going to start.
Running back news.
James Conner expected to play.
Conner or Kareem Hunt?
Hunt.
Hunt.
Hunt over Steelers running back.
Ezekiel Elliott thinks he will play.
And does that mean they're both sits?
Probably.
But Pollard, I would prefer over Ezekiel.
They will both be outside of my top 25 if Elliott's active.
Christian McCaffrey mispracticed.
Miles Gaskin is off the COVID list.
James Robinson could play this week.
Antonio Gibson was limited in practice,
so he hasn't been ruled out yet.
Still not ranking him.
Chase Edmonds missed practice.
He was missing practice last week as well,
and he ended up playing.
Damian Harris practiced for New England,
and they've got the Monday night game against Buffalo.
Keenan Allen missed practice right now.
We don't know if Keenan Allen is going to play.
We'll have to check on that,
and I assume that would have an impact
on Justin Herbert's ranking. That game will be
previewed tomorrow. Traquan Smith mispracticed. They got the Friday game. Juju says he's not
going to dance on the opponent's logo anymore. Well, he's got a home game. So let's see if
he dances at midfield before this game against the Colts. Stefan Diggs practiced. He's looking
good. Did John Brown actually make it to practice I know he was scheduled to
practice I didn't see
I'll check oh they have the Monday game actually
so maybe they practice tomorrow
or today in full okay
Julio Jones
practice not expecting him Tyree
kill yes we're expecting him not
Galladay and
Heath what are you ranking Parker and
Gacicki right now?
We are not yet, but I wouldn't be surprised
if that changes by the end of the day.
Okay.
Defensive stuff.
We've got Bradley Chubb injured for Denver.
They're at the Chargers.
DeForest Buckner dealing with an ankle injury for the Colts.
I think he played through it last week, though.
Quinnen Williams out for the season, as Jamie
mentions. Jets' top defensive player.
Defensive lineman, anyway.
Marcus Peters, questionable.
He's trending in the right direction.
Dallas, already a bad defense. They're going to be
without at least three starters on defense.
Possibly five. Leighton Van Der Esch
is not going to play.
Better news for Miles Sanders.
Looking forward to talking about him. But Darius Slay, in that same game, Darius Slay is expected to play. That could news for Miles Sanders. Looking forward to talking about him.
But Darius Slay in that same game.
Darius Slay is expected to play.
That could be a problem for Amari Cooper.
We'll find out.
Tampa Bay, yeah.
Okay, so both safety Antoine Winfield and Carlton Davis missed practice for Tampa Bay yesterday.
I thought Winfield did return.
No?
Maybe that's why I got confused.
Maybe he was limited and Davis missed.
Okay.
In terms of John Brown um according to uh Joe Buscaglia of the athletic he said the only players that he did not
see at practice were Gilliam Williams uh Reggie Gilliam Darrell Williams and Andre Roberts so I'm
gonna take that that John Brown did practice in some capacity okay Chicago has two cornerbacks
who missed practice Buster Screen and Jalen Johnson.
And both of the Niners starting safeties are dealing with injuries.
Big surprise.
Most injured team I've ever seen.
62nd rankings disputes.
We've got some good ones today.
Here we go.
Antoine Winfield Limited.
Carlton Davis DNP.
Okay.
There we go.
Thank you for clarifying.
My bad.
62nd rankings disputes.
We've got some good ones.
Here we go. DJ Moore
is
top 20 in non-PPR for both of you
guys, but for Heath, Heath, you have him 27th.
DJ Moore at Washington in PPR
and Jamie, you have him 12th.
Jamie, I'll give you the first word. Top 12
for DJ Moore. I just think
he's playing great. I know this Washington
defense is tough, but you saw
what he was able to do coming back last week
from his extended absence, or excuse me, one-game absence
from being placed on the COVID-19 list.
He scored 19 PPR points in each of his last three games
he was able to finish.
That's an Acer stat to a certain extent
because he left late in the Minnesota game,
but still did not finish the game.
And I don't necessarily look at this Washington defense as a lockdown secondary
and their last five games,
six receivers have scored at least 14 PPR points against them.
So I think DJ Moore can get to that number.
Yeah.
I don't want to be the low guy on DJ Moore.
I'm starting DJ Moore in two different championship games where I have
him.
The only thing I would say is I do think
he should be a little bit lower
in PPR than he is in non.
He only has two games
since week
six with more
than four catches.
His catch rate for the season is down
quite a bit because they're using him in a
different way. But I did move him up and I've got him 17th now. So I can add one more wide receiver
that I kind of feel good about. Okay, great. Well, you can add him to the list along with
Nelson Aguilar, who you still have in your top 20. Jamie has outside the top 36 right
now. So Heath, you're the high guy on Aguilar. Big difference in the rankings here. Right? Yeah. I
listen, he's got 45 targets over his last five games. And while I do think like, I believe in
this Dolphins defense and their talent, they have given up a ton of points to wide receivers in games over the last
five weeks uh tim patrick had 16 ppr points against them both brashad perry many that was
yeah well there's five fluky weeks in a row because jacoby myers had 17 or 23 PPR fantasy points. 18.
18, yeah.
Yeah.
Tyree Kill had 20 plus.
Tyler Boyd, another fluky one,
had 17 PPR points.
No, he didn't have 20.
What are you,
where are you looking at this?
Am I wrong?
I thought he,
oh, maybe he had rushing totals.
He had a 32-yard rushing total.
Oh, that's dumb.
Okay, fine.
He had 79 yards in a time.
Look at him. He's a giant. He's not yards in a time they did a good job against him they did it against tyreek hill i'd say anyway three catches 79 yards and a touchdown on seven targets i would take that from nelson agla yeah me too but that
was tyreek hill i'm not disagreeing okay i'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just pointing out. I like it. Five weeks in a row,
whether it's fluky or not,
the Dolphins have not been good
against the other team's
number one wide receiver.
Okay.
By the way, Heath,
I looked at the last five receivers
who came into the Dolphins game
with 45 or more targets
over their last five games.
No, I'm just kidding.
JB, not as high on Nelson Aguilar.
I'm sorry? You're not as high on Nelson Aguilar.
Not even a top 30. No, I think you got
an injured quarterback or a quarterback that's not
very consistent in
Marcus Mariota.
Aguilar has two great
games in this stretch of 45 targets
and two mediocre games. I'm going to
bank on him being mediocre in this stretch of 45 targets and two mediocre games and I'm going to bank on him being
mediocre in this game against this defense that uh I I just I believe in them I I believe in Brian
Flores I believe in this group I believe in the secondary Xavier Howard Xavier Howard is having a
great season so um I'm just not buying Nelson Aguilar this week despite the fact that the
targets have been there for him. So he could obviously score.
He's that type of receiver.
I know Heath usually justifies guys like this as boom or bust.
You obviously think he's going to boom.
I think he's going to bust.
Okay, I mean, I think that's a pretty good way to look at it with Aguilar.
And let's talk about Mike Davis.
Heath, I'll give you the first word again.
You're the high guy on Mike Davis.
You have him as a top 12 running back.
Jamie, you have him outside your top 20.
So both of you have him as a starter 12 running back. Jamie, you have him outside your top 20. So both of you have him as a starter,
but obviously in much different ways here.
So Heath, Mike Davis at Washington.
Yeah, I think this is probably one where he belongs in the teens in between where the two of us have him.
But I do think it's a situation where he's probably going to get 15 touches
and he has been good more often than he's been bad and um i still expect he's
probably going to catch two to three passes and so i'm probably starting mike davis jamie washington
is among the leaders in fewest receptions and touchdowns allowed to running backs
and i know davis was good early in the, but lately he's been kind of miserable.
He scored 10 PPR points or less in six of his last seven games without McCaffrey.
So he's touchdown dependent at this point,
and if he doesn't score, I don't know how good he's going to be.
Okay, and Tyler Lockett, last one here.
Just like Aguilar, I mean, the rankings are pretty similar.
Jamie's got Lockett outside the top 30.
Heath has him as a top 20 guy, 17th, I believe.
Is that right?
Does that feel right?
He's right around 20, yeah.
Okay.
So, Jamie, you're sitting Lockett, number three receiver, anyway.
Yeah, I mean, five of his last games with 10 PPR points or less.
Last week played out kind of like I thought, you know,
four catches, 34 yards on seven targets.
Last time he played this team, he had five catches for 66 yards on nine targets.
I kind of think that's the ceiling for him at this point.
You know, so 11 PPR points would be fine.
You know, I don't think that anybody would be like totally upset about that compared to what he gave you last week.
But I don't know where the ceiling is at this point because he's not scoring touchdowns anymore.
And this defense typically has Russell Wilson's number.
So I'd be concerned about
lockett all right heath hi guy i think i i think i like wilson just a little bit more um than
everybody else and i am still mostly in the i'm starting tyler lockett range this has kind of
goes back to the mike davis thing with the full season versus the last month or the last six weeks.
And I'm just sticking with Tyler Lockett this week.
Okay, who would you start him over?
How about DJ Moore or Tyler Lockett?
I've got DJ Moore one spot ahead of Lockett.
All right, how about some running backs?
Jeff Wilson, Tyler Lockett.
Lockett.
I mean, Wilson for me.
Dolphins or Cowboys running back or lock it?
Lock it.
Miles Gaskin
and
probably lock it over the other guys.
So you're Gaskin over Ahmed now?
Yes.
Okay.
Okay.
I have no idea.
I have Ahmed ranked higher right right now but i have like we don't have any any history i think the only history we go by is that you know
gaskin was their guy and did he do anything to lose the job and you think no i don't i don't
i don't know i mean you know I don't know if, you know,
and this is just total speculation.
Did he do something to put himself in a position
to, you know, contract COVID-19?
Oh.
I'm seeing the report.
I'm just, you know, something that we don't know of
is what I'm getting at.
Who backed up who in college?
Well, Gaskin's older, right?
I think so. Yeah, he yeah he must well he finished in 2018
let's see savannah akhmed finished in 2019 so yes so maybe they go seniority we'll see
it could be a situation where they play them both and you know like like i've been saying all week
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All right, the start-o-meter slash confidence-o-meter
for the last three games we will talk about.
Heath, Carolina and Washington,
who are you confidently starting?
J.D. McKissick if there's no Antonio Gibson.
Logan Thomas as long as it's not one of the practice squad quarterbacks.
McLaurin?
No, I'd start DJ Moore over McLaurin for sure.
Okay.
So we'll call him like a 2-3, wide receiver 2-3 kind of deal?
2-3.
Okay. And then for Carolina, Mike Davis wide receiver, two, two slash three kind of deal. Two slash three.
Okay.
And then for Carolina,
Mike Davis.
Oh,
wait,
we already did.
Mike Davis is a,
is a number two running back.
Okay.
And we've talked about DJ more.
So he's a start.
Um,
anything to add Jamie,
or should we move on next game?
I like McLaurin a lot this week.
I mean, you know,
you've,
you've seen a pretty consistent pattern of,
uh,
anytime he gets seven or more targets.
And I think he's going to get seven plus targets in this game.
I like the matchup for him.
I think it's so interesting because, you know,
is Ron Rivera going to try and stick it to his former team?
And so, you know, I like what I saw from him last week with the seven for 77.
He hasn't found the end zone, so he's better in PPR than non-PPR.
But I think it's going to be a game where he scores.
You just don't know if they're going to throw like 25 times.
I'm trying to find their pass attempts.
Pass attempts, last five games, 25, 27, 46, 32, 55.
That's just weird.
It's winning versus losing.
Yeah, one of the games they won
with a bunch of pass attempts,
that was the Steelers game.
But for the most part,
it is winning versus losing.
I assume they're favored in this game.
I think they're five-point favorites.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, it kind of impacts McKissick as well.
It does.
Absolutely.
That's why I was surprised
you were that confident in Terry McLaurin.
It impacts McKissick, obviously, a lot more if Gibson's back.
But he's their leading rusher right now.
He's not their goal.
I'm sorry. It's only a three-point spread currently.
Okay.
Tennessee at Green Bay.
Is there anyone that we're concerned about,
or is this like Bonanza time?
Oh, this is Bonanza worthy.
Why would you say that?
I've been so good all year.
Okay, yeah.
Like Corey Davis.
How about Corey Davis?
Very good number two receiver,
despite a tough matchup.
Yeah, he's probably going to see a lot of Jair Alexander
as we heard yesterday from Jacob Gibbs.
But what is my Corey Davis stat?
He has played in six games
in which Ryan Tannehill has thrown 30 or more passes.
And he has four 100-yard games in those six.
He has scored 15 or more PPR fantasy points
in five of those six.
So that's cool.
That's four games with 100 yards out of six when Tannehill's thrown 30 or more PPR fantasy points in five of those six. So that's cool. That's four games with 100 yards out of six
when Tannehill's thrown 30 or more passes,
and the Packers have allowed only three 100-yard receivers all year.
So that's fast, and nobody's sitting A.J. Brown,
and he won't see a lot of Alexander.
But Heath, do you have any hesitation with Corey Davis?
No, not really.
I mean, it's a bit of a FOMO play, I think.
There's some risk, but you don't want to miss out on what the big game is from Corey Davis yeah he got you here
all right Miami and Las Vegas Heath who are you confidently starting in this
game
I don't think there is a dolphin no matter who's healthy so I'm starting
Darren Waller for sure I'm starting josh jacobs
and i'm starting nelson agalor as a number two wide receiver what about kasiki if he plays
given the state of he is a low-end starting tight end okay and he can you guys don't have
josh jacobs ranked super high this week if i'm not not mistaken, right? He's in the teens, I think.
Yeah, I mean, he's a safe number two running back.
But he's obviously volume dependent, as we saw last week.
You know what I mean? He didn't play great last week.
He had a 20-yard run.
That was nice.
And I think the three catches are great.
But, I mean, it took 26 carries to get 78 yards.
And that's including a 20-yard run.
They're three-point underdogs.
Josh Jacobs has not been very good when they've
lost. Last week, he was good because
he got 25 carries, something like that.
26 in an overtime
game, but not been very good
when they've lost.
Dolphins' run defense has been great lately.
Did they have the ball in overtime?
Yeah. I think they went three and out
or something like that.
Let's go to the games then. Did they have the ball in overtime? Yeah, I think they went three and out or something like that. Right.
All right, let's go to the games then.
And Philadelphia at Dallas, your stat of the game,
14 wide receivers have had 90 yards or a touchdown against Dallas
in their last nine games.
Those are the games they played without Dak.
14 wide receivers in nine games, 90 yards or a touchdown.
Will we get 90 yards or a touchdown from an Eagles wide receiver, Jamie?
I think you'll get a touchdown.
Which one scores, I couldn't tell you.
The fact that Jalen Rager is practicing is encouraging if you're looking for a flyer,
discouraging if you were hoping to maybe pare down some of these options and look at Greg
Ward, who scored three touchdowns in the three appearances that Jalen Hurts has made.
Jeffrey, who scored in one of those games, I believe,
led them in receiving yards last week or was close to it with 63 yards.
Quez Watkins, who's playing more, he scored last week as well.
Obviously, I wouldn't rule out a Travis Fulgham touchdown, you know,
if he's able to get in there too.
So it's just – this is one of those things where it's like Lamar jackson except there's no marquise brown where someone's going to score because the
quarterback is going to play well it's just a matter of who's the player that's going to score
like i'm in a matchup against dave where my flex options are terrible terrible terrible terrible
and i picked up greg ward and so i may play greg ward or maybe let me go check how ironic would it
be if i played jalen Rager against Dave,
the guy that they loved in the preseason,
the guy that Dave thought was going to get over 100 targets,
the guy who could come back and, oh, he's available.
Oh, wrongly.
All right, Heath, let's talk about Jalen Hurts.
You guys both have him fifth.
Dave has him eighth.
You would start, the two of you would start Mahomes, Rogers,
and Josh Allen ahead of him there's a little bit of a difference here with kyler murray and deshaun watson heath you have
watson ahead of hertz jamie has hurts one spot ahead of watson but talk about kyler versus hurts
i'm getting that question a ton uh you're going with hertz jam Jamie has Kyler one spot ahead of Hurts. Very close.
Legitimately, Patrick Mahomes is the only quarterback that I would definitely say you can't sit for Jalen Hurts.
I have Josh Allen, Deshaun Watson, Aaron Rodgers, Jalen Hurts,
Tom Brady, and Kyler Murray all projected within 1.2 fantasy points.
All within a half a point of a 30-point projection.
I love all of them.
And I wouldn't argue.
It's a five-sided coin.
They're all awesome.
But yeah, I would...
I like Hertz the fifth most.
I would imagine, since you have it in front of you,
how far off is Lamar Jackson?
I was about to ask you that.
You guys have jackson
seventh uh dave has him first and heath has him eighth so it's jamie seventh jackson and i was
surprised that you had uh hertz ahead of jackson jackson has a much tougher matchup but i mean
who's stopping lamar jackson these days um so yeah you want to talk about that hertz versus
jackson jamie i mean i i love all these guys like Like he said, you know, I think there's, there's, there's a very
strong case for, you know, several quarterbacks to be number one this week. Hurts being among
them, Lamar Jackson being among them, all these, all these guys are in such great spots. Deshaun
Watson's in a great spot. You know, I mean, we haven't seen him in a favorable game script
in a few weeks now. And so this is an opportunity for that as well for him so it's a very difficult choice for people that
were able to pick up Jalen Hurts either along the way for whatever reason or in the case like for me
in one championship game to block my opponent and I did it in a league where I have Lamar Jackson
and I'm struggling with that decision because again it's you know play with the guy who got
you here or go with the guy who looks amazing right now they both look amazing yeah it's really um but i i i just look
at where the ceiling lies and like you said uh lamar jackson does have a little bit of a tougher
matchup they based on the opponent that he's facing um they both have a ton to play for i mean
you know playoffs are on the line for both of these teams as the Eagles have clawed their way back into this, but
I just think that there's
a bigger scenario of
what we've seen where
hey, the Ravens have built their lead.
Go sit down, Lamar. Whereas Jalen
Hurts, I think, is playing all four quarters.
Okay. Thanks for
having no faith in the Giants. All right.
So Jalen Hurts is a start and
Miles Sanders. Oh, gosh. No a start, and Miles Sanders... Do you have faith in the Giants?
Oh, gosh, no.
Hell no.
Miles Sanders is top 12 in non-PPR.
He's top 12 for Dave and Jamie in PPR,
16th for Heath in PPR.
I think it's quite a vote of confidence
for Miles Sanders.
Now, I did mention Leighton Vander Esch is out.
Dallas Cowboys defense
is just in a horrible state right now.
But I was a little surprised
at how high I saw him in the rankings.
Heath, care to comment on that?
He has 18 touches
in each of the past two games, and he's playing the Cowboys.
And over 90 total yards
in each of those two games with Jalen Hurts.
Adam, you might be a top 20 running back
if you told me I was getting
18 touches out of you against the Cowboys.
Okay.
Then how about the tight ends for the Eagles?
Goddard or Ertz?
Who do you like better?
Goddard.
Still Goddard, but I don't know if you can trust.
It's the same thing with the receivers,
except obviously the tight ends are much better.
Can you trust either one?
And I don't know if you can.
If I have Goddardard i'm not dropping him
or trusting even though i haven't ranked this way um i shouldn't say that i would i would pick up
tyler higby or austin hooper uh and play them over god at this point but you know it that that's the
line for me those two guys heath you co-sign that hooper and i am still starting dallas goddard like
even as disappointing as last week,
and really the last two weeks have been,
he's got 14 targets over those.
Even last week when Ertz was better,
he had more targets and played 73 snaps.
So I'm still starting Dallas Goddard.
Okay.
Honestly, Ertz,
it's not like he was a bad passer last week.
I mean, he wasn't great.
He made some bad throws.
He also made some very good throws.
So you get those targets.
There's a good opportunity there.
Ertz also got a lot of targets.
He only caught two of them at a seven,
but he had 69 points.
I think Ertz led them in targets, right?
Seven targets.
I think Goddard actually had eight.
Yeah, Goddard had eight.
Okay, let's go to the Cowboys then.
Andy Dalton is a low-end starter.
Darius Slay is going to play,
but they still have a very banged-up secondary.
So Dalton, let's see, he's about 21 to 23 in the rankings.
He's been around 20 fantasy points for the last five games.
I don't hate him this week, if you're stuck.
And for Z, would you start him over Roethlisberger,
by the way, Dalton?
Yes, I think so.
I don't think I would.
Okay.
So try to get away from them if they both play.
If it's just Pollard, if Zeke doesn't play,
how high are you going to have Pollard ranked?
Heath?
That's how we currently have it ranked.
I think I've got him top 10, like right around eighth.
But if Zeke gets another good practice in today,
we're going to have to change that in a big way,
but he would be a must start running back.
If there was no Elliot,
he says he's playing.
We have to assume at this point,
he's playing,
you know,
like we obviously don't have to make a Thursday decision.
So for anybody that had,
you know,
those typical dilemmas of,
do I wait it out or whatever?
You don't have to worry about that.
Hopefully with the Friday game,
you know,
not that anybody is,
you know,
starting Alvin Kamara or comparing Alvin Kamara versus the Cowboys running
back or Dalvin cook versus the Cowboys running back.
So you don't have that dilemma,
but maybe flexes with the Cowboys receivers or,
you know,
a Justin Jefferson,
Adam Thielen versus Pollard,
for example,
if you were waiting that out.
But I think,
uh,
in terms of at this point,
you have to assume Zeke is playing.
Okay. And then how do you feel about Cooper, Lamb, and Gallup?
Cooper, first game against the Eagles, he was terrible,
but that was the Ben DiNucci game.
One catch on five targets.
Last year against the Lions, Darius Slay,
I don't know how much they saw each other,
but three catches for 38 yards.
And I've kind of outlined Cooper's struggle at times
with the better cornerbacks.
Yeah, I mean, and by the way,
he's struggling a little bit lately.
He's got 51 or fewer yards in three straight games,
though he does have two touchdowns.
So is Cooper a must start, Jamie?
I think he's a number two wide receiver.
There's a few receivers that I don't love this week
for a couple of reasons. And he's in that group along with Keenan Allen, few receivers that i don't love this week uh for a
couple of reasons and he's in that group along with keenan allen just with his uncertainty if
you're just looking at rankings and ty hilton based on matchup um so cooper's in that you know
low number two starting receiver range um i do think and i'm just going to look uh the fact that
michael gallup practiced in full is probably not great for
Cooper because we've seen Andy Dalton kind of look for all three of these guys you know he's
been a little bit different than Dak Prescott where he's you know not necessarily just kind
of focused his targets or um you know at least early in the season like we saw from Dak um you
know where he was kind of going away from Gallup so I think Cooper's a starter but I don't think
there you know to go back to your question I don't think there, you know, to go back to your question, I don't think there's
a lot of confidence
in Amar Cooper
or your question
about the other game.
All right.
Would you guys start
Lockett over any
of the Cowboys receivers?
Or I know you'd start
them over Gallup.
How about over Lamb
and Cooper?
I like the other
two guys better.
I think I've got it
Cooper, Lockett, Lamb.
I don't really understand why you guys have Lamb
as a I think you have him as a
starter
number three
yeah he's had like one good
game with Andy Dalton basically
last yeah I mean I haven't ranked
and I need to change I had it ranked as if
Gallup was not playing oh okay
yeah I don't know that
like I think you could say
he has had one good game
from certain angles.
He's had decent fantasy games, though.
I guess he's not ranked that high.
I don't want to...
And I think he has the same number of targets
from Andy Dalton as Amari Cooper.
Yeah, I mean, he's played
the last five games with Dalton, and he's got six plus targets
in four of those.
Okay.
All right.
Let's take a quick break here when we come back.
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Rams at Seahawks.
So last time these two teams played,
we were pretty excited about Jared Goff,
and he threw for over 300 yards but didn't score a touchdown.
And that was kind of the start of this stretch for the Seahawks
where they haven't given up a touchdown to a wide receiver
in any of those last six games.
Kind of crazy.
So Goff is a sit. He's around 20th.
Uh, Jamie, I'm the only thing that makes me nervous about golf is where this game is being
played. Why? Oh, cause he's good on the road. Yeah. I mean, he's averaging over 24 fantasy
points per game on the road. It makes no sense. I don't buy it. Like totally. Cause two years ago,
he was only good at home, you know? So at home. So it's much better at home.
And there are no fans.
So I don't know.
Okay, anyway.
It's so funky.
Daryl Henderson
or a Cowboys or Dolphins running back?
Henderson.
Henderson, but I don't like him.
And I haven't seen Harry and the Hendersons in a long time.
He's been movie used to be on all the time.
Yeah.
Probably not so great,
but when you were a kid,
you know,
uh,
all right.
My head,
this is,
this is how,
you know,
some things,
sometimes things stick with you.
Yeah.
Whenever I driving,
or I guess wherever,
uh,
here,
a fire engine.
You think I had,
I always think of when he's yelling out the window.
I remember almost nothing about it.
Didn't they have like a station wagon?
Yep.
Yeah, that I remember.
Heath, let's reminisce about the days when Cooper Cup was good.
And can you start him?
And what about Robert Woods?
He is a, well, Woods I'm starting.
As a low-end number one number one high end number two wide receiver
cup is difficult I think most people are probably going to sit him I am probably going to start him
as a number three wide receiver he does the yardage has been bad in three of his past four
games but if you look at his fantasy points over his last five games, it's 8,
14, 15,
6, and 25.
That's a starting wide receiver.
Sure.
Darrell Henderson or Cupp?
Where's he from? I don't know. Is he from Seattle?
I believe he's from the Washington
area. His last
two games in Seattle.
6 for 90 in a touchdown, nine for
117 in a touchdown. So you're confident
in him? Confident? No.
I think you got to look at the body work.
But sometimes
these things matter to guys. I don't know what the difference is,
but...
I always podcast better when I'm in
Fort Lauderdale. I do think
the body of work statement is
important because he's on pace for
a 90 catch like almost 1100 yard season what about the fact hasn't had the touchdown what
about the fact that they've that seattle is like smothering wide receivers lately like no touchdowns
in their last six games including against the rams and the cardinals and they were okay against
mclaurin seven catches 77 yards on 12 targets the the
thing about um that rams game was interesting because like you said jared goff played really
well in that game 27 to 37 he did have a fumble um they had three uh i don't know how far out
they were but they were certainly in the red zone rushing touchdowns yeah always that's what they do
so annoying and so like that because
he was the start of the week that week i thought jared goff's have a great game because he was
coming off his bye week i should have factored in he's playing at home i think at that point
we didn't realize the the the dire straits of his uh his home performances but um part of it i think
for this seattle defense and the run that they've been on. So you said it started that game?
Yeah.
That was a very... This is where things...
You got to sort of dig a little deeper.
Because like I said,
they played really well in that game.
The next game is when Kyler
hurt his shoulder in that game.
Yeah.
Then they got the Eagles with Wentz.
Mm-hmm.
Bad.
The Giants with McCoy. Yeah, I know. I gotcha. The Jets andz. Bad. The Giants with McCoy.
Yeah, I know. I gotcha.
The Jets and Washington.
Yeah, I know.
They have been a lot better, but
the competition has certainly been a lot worse.
Alright, and Tyler Higbee
is a top 12 tight end. Seattle is horrible.
Horrible. 57 yards
or a touchdown to a tight end in 8 of their last
10 games.
Higbee's coming on lately.
Russell Wilson is 14th for Jamie, 15th for Dave, 12th for Heath.
It's really Wilson versus Baker Mayfield,
Wilson versus Mitchell Trubisky.
I think those are very interesting discussions.
Jamie, where do you land on that?
I like those other guys better. I just think Russell Wilson
is not playing at a great level for fantasy.
It's just, again, the sample size. I know Heath
will look at the season long, but the sample size of the last month plus
has not been good. I think Pete Carroll
is happy with the way that they're playing.
You know,
he's been ecstatic,
you know,
in the media lately about the run game,
you know,
when asked about it.
And so if you just look at what,
you know,
Wilson's done,
he's,
what is it?
16 fantasy points or less than three of his last four.
And he's facing a team that allows fewer than 15 fantasy points per game on
average to quarterbacks.
Right. So he, how about you?
Those streamers, Trubisky, Mayfield, or Wilson?
I'm going Trubisky, Wilson, then Mayfield.
And I don't feel good about it.
I only have Russell Wilson on one team in a final,
and I'm starting him.
But Trubisky and Mayfield weren't either available either.
Okay.
Chris Carson's pretty interesting.
The Rams are giving up
the fourth fewest fantasy points to
running backs, 3.79 yards per carry
to running backs. And that was after
kind of a slow start against the run game.
So Carson's had
mostly tough matchups since coming back.
He's been fine. Is he a must-start guy this week, Heath? He tough matchups since coming back. He's been fine.
Is he a must-start guy this week, Heath?
He's a number two running back.
I don't know that I'd call him a must-start,
but he's a probably start.
I would start David Johnson over him, for example.
You're starting guys like David Montgomery over him,
stuff like that, but I'm probably starting him.
How about DeAndre Swift against Tampa Bay or Chris Carson against the Rams?
I've got Swift and PPR, Carson none.
How about Leonard Fournette?
I've got Carson.
Jamie, Fournette or Carson?
Fournette.
I think Carson, Josh Jacobs.
I'll throw DeAndre Swift in there too.
I think they're all kind of similar
where the matchup isn't easy.
You got to like the workload.
You got to like what they're involved in.
It isn't a passing game.
More so for Swift and Carson than Jacobs.
But again, Jacobs, three catches last week,
I think helps.
But it's not easy.
It's not an easy matchup whatsoever.
All right, the Rams DST is kind of low end this week.
I think they're kind of around 10th.
Yeah, 12th to 10th, 10th to 12th.
So the Bills, the Browns, the Bears, the Dolphins,
the Cardinals, for most of you, yeah,
those are pretty much ahead of the Rams this week for you guys.
All right, Tampa Bay is at Detroit.
Detroit has allowed 30 or more points in four straight games.
Their defense is completely falling apart.
So you guys like Tom Brady quite a bit.
He's a top 10 quarterback.
He's behind Jalen Hurts.
But a really good starter.
Would you go with Tom Brady or Ryan Tannehill this week?
Brady.
Brady. I'm making that this week? Brady. Brady.
I'm making that decision in the league.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
What do you guys want to say
about Leonard Fournette?
Boy, this game,
the Detroit Lions,
they've allowed
14 or more PPR fantasy points
to a running back
in 11 of their last 12 games.
They're absolutely horrible.
Jamie,
how much confidence do you have in Fournette?
A lot.
I mean, as long as Ronald Jones doesn't surprise us and play,
but at this point, everything that we're hearing
is that he's not going to play.
So the fact that Fournette had 17 total touches last week,
and I think he's going to probably get a similar workload.
Now, he didn't run very well. 14 14 for 49 is not great but he scored twice he's going to be their guy
near the goal line and like you said this team is absolutely absolutely miserable there's actually
been seven times this season where a running back has scored twice against Detroit and would not
shock me if he does that again you know it's just that's how bad they are. All right. How about Leonard Fournette or Corey Davis?
Fournette and non-PPR is the easy choice.
In PPR, it's probably close, but I'd still go Davis in PPR.
I'd probably go Davis in PPR, Fournette and none.
Fournette or Keenan Allen if he plays?
Fournette.
Can't trust Allen right now.
Okay.
All right. So start four net.
And then in terms of the Tampa Bay wide receivers,
I know Heath, you're not loving Chris Godwin.
Do you still have Godwin ahead of Antonio Brown?
I have them, I think, back to back.
I think I may actually have Brown one spot higher.
I have Godwin one spot higher currently.
Any hesitation, by the way, with Mike Evans?
That's the one we don't really talk about that much.
I'm starting him.
Yeah, like I said, I'm starting all three of these guys to varying degrees.
Brown just outside my top 24, but you know I feel about receivers.
I think there's always going to be like 30-some-odd guys that are startable.
So you like Brown better than...
Well, which Brown do you like Brown better than,
well, which Brown do you like better,
Marquise or Antonio?
I just made that switch.
PPR, I had it ranked that way,
Antonio over Marquise,
but I would start now Antonio over Marquise in non-PPR as well.
Heath?
Marquise over Antonio.
How about Rashard Higgins or Antonio Brown?
Antonio.
Antonio Brown, but. Antonio Brown.
But that's close.
Okay.
How about Juju Smith-Schuster or Chris Godwin?
Godwin.
Godwin.
Start or sit Matthew Stafford if he plays?
Wish he will, it seems.
Certainly in 2QB.
You want to hear a weird Stafford stat?
You know, most quarterbacks, you figure,
oh, they'll throw two touchdowns, right?
That's like kind of a normal number.
In his last 10 games,
he does not have one game with two touchdowns.
He has three with three.
He has six with one,
and he has one with zero.
And that is why I think he has been
one of the most difficult quarterbacks to predict
because he never throws two touchdowns.
He throws one or three, and it's just such a huge swing in his fantasy points.
His offseason is going to be one of the more fascinating offseasons
because do they part ways with him?
If they don't and he gets Galladay back,
he's going to be one of these fantasy quarterbacks that we write off
and I think can bounce back
and play well. If he goes to New England, which I think a lot of people are hoping happens for him
and probably for the Patriots, does he have the chance to still be a good fantasy quarterback?
Which I think is going to be interesting. So teams are throwing a lot on Tampa Bay lately
and scoring a lot of points. The quarterbacks are, they're not running the ball that much.
And in fact,
the Buccaneers have seen the fewest rush attempts in the NFL.
So he's laid out for me with Deandre Swift,
what you're thinking.
I,
the fact that he's been so involved in the passing game and he's been so
good when they've given him the ball makes me more comfortable starting him
as a number two running back.
He has exactly five targets in four straight games.
We talked about the 50 catch running backs.
He missed a month and didn't play hardly at the beginning of the season,
and he needs 11 catches to get to 50.
So he's been very, very involved in the passing game,
and I'm mostly just starting him.
Man, this is such a crappy match.
They're so good.
They've held Kamara, Melvin Gordon, Montgomery, Aaron Jones, Josh Jacobs
to less than 30 yards.
Kamara in the second meeting had fewer than 40 yards.
Clyde Eberts either fewer than 40 yards.
Dalvin Cook is the only running back with 60 yards.
He had 102.
But that's just, it's scary, you know.
So Fournette or Swift?
Fournette.
I've got Swift higher right now.
Can you imagine getting to your
fantasy championship
with
Russell Wilson, DK Metcalf,
DeAndre Swift.
I'm trying to think
about the guys just have these brutal matchups
that are stars.
Yeah.
It stinks.
It's no,
it's,
it's,
it's nerve wracking for sure.
Marvin Jones,
we already talked about,
he is a start.
We like him quite a bit.
And even though I gave that weird stat,
that weird laser stat,
nobody cares about,
which is fine.
I don't really care about it either.
It was healthy for the Bucs secondary?
So are you
going to continue to rank them as a must-start
if Carlton Davis plays?
Yes.
I probably will.
One thing, going back to Swift, and I just
looked this up. You may have said it and I wasn't listening,
but the Buccaneers do allow
the most catches to running backs.
Yeah. As far as against the most catches to running backs. Yeah.
As far as against pass-catching running backs,
I don't know about catches, but yards,
since week two, no running back has more than 31 receiving yards.
That's weird because they're giving up 40 yards per game.
Because McCaffrey and Mike Davis 100 yard 103 yards camara had 51
yeah maybe they give it up maybe it's distributed amongst other running backs but since week two
no running back is more than 31 receiving yards unless it was like the falcons backs combined at
65 last week yeah okay at 65 yeah uh nine catches keith smith ke Smith. Okay, he might have been the one
that I missed.
Okay.
Anyway, all right.
Adam takes out fullbacks.
TJ Hawkinson.
TJ Hawkinson.
Must start?
Yes.
Start him.
Okay.
And Tampa Bay DST is top 12.
They've faced some pretty tough offenses lately.
They haven't been great.
I don't know.
I know they're not that exciting, I suppose.
Minnesota's at New Orleans.
This is the Christmas game.
I've been waiting for this stat for a while.
This is kind of surprising.
There have been 15 wide receivers with seven or more targets against the Saints.
I've actually given this stat,
but it's been like a month.
14 out of 15 have had 73 yards or a touchdown.
Seven targets against the Saints, seven or more, you're almost guaranteed to have a good game,
which surprised me. Russell Gage is the only exception to that. And actually in the second
game, he did have a good game with seven or more targets, I'm pretty sure. So the question is,
will Adam Thielen get seven or more targets? Because everybody's starting Justin Jefferson,
but Jamie, is Adam Thielen a must start?
I think he's a number two receiver.
He's not a top 10 guy.
He's touchdown dependent at this point.
But again, it's like DK Metcalf.
It's like Amar Cooper.
I shouldn't put those guys in the same category.
It's like DK Metcalf and these other receivers that you look at and say, I can't sit there because the potential is so good.
The FOMO factor.
So it wouldn't shock me if Thielen has four catches and two of them are touchdowns. receivers that you look at and say, I can't sit there because the potential is so good. The FOMO factor. So,
wouldn't shock me if Thielen has four catches and two of them are touchdowns. He's just that
type of player.
I just looked and I haven't projected for seven targets
so I'm moving way up.
Awesome.
Are you starting Cooper
or Thielen?
Thielen.
How about DeAndre Swift or Adam Thielen? Thielen. Oh, Cooper for Heath. How about DeAndre Swift
or Adam Thielen?
Swift.
Swift.
All right, let's stick
with the Vikings here.
Any interest in Kirk Cousins?
On the road in the big spot, no.
Nope.
Okay.
Saints, very, very good defense.
Dalvin Cook is a start.
Justin Jefferson is a start.
We just talked about Adam Thielen.
Any interest in Irv Smith?
Not this week, no.
No.
Okay.
Let's talk about Drew Brees.
He did struggle his way
to 25 points last week.
He also gave way to Taysom Hill
for a rushing touchdown.
The other stat of the game
is that six of the last
seven quarterbacks
to face the Vikings
have scored 19
or fewer fantasy points.
It has mostly been against weak competition.
Detroit quarterbacks, Foles, Dalton, Bridgewater, Glennon,
Brady only threw 23 passes, scored 19 points.
Trubisky only threw 21 passes.
But they have obviously gotten a little bit better on defense.
So, Jamie, how much confidence do you have in drew breeze?
He's a low end starter.
You know,
he's,
uh,
it's not a slam dunk and I don't know if the ceiling is like 30 points in
this game,
but I do think you see a pretty consistent track record for him.
I think it's now,
uh,
six straight healthy and I'll look it up.
Uh,
but his,
his stretch of games,
um,
that he's finished,
you know,
take out the San Francisco game when he got hurt.
Uh, it's like 23 or more fantasy points.
Five straight I have.
Five in a row.
Yeah.
And then his performance at home,
he's averaging over 24 fantasy points per game at home
in the games that he's finished taking out that 49ers game.
So I think you just look at those two things.
We know he typically is at home.
It's essentially a,
a primetime game for him,
you know,
in terms of spotlight game.
So he's always usually been good in those spots.
And I also think they want to get him in the rhythm.
You know,
you got to get him going after the layoff.
So he,
he got off to a slow start last week.
Like you said,
he lost the touchdown to taste him.
I don't think he's going to have a monster performance,
but I do think that if you have him...
Like, I have my quarterback situation in one of the finals
is Roethlisberger or Breeze,
and that's easy for me to go Breeze.
Okay, start Kamara.
Who do you like better, real quick?
Kamara or Cook, just for fun?
Kamara.
Kamara.
All right.
Emmanuel Sanders.
Nobody's got him higher than...
Looks like 28th for Jamie.
He's around 30th for Dave and Jamie.
He's closer to 40th for Heath.
Emmanuel Sanders, 76 yards.
So now let's look at his last four games.
It's 56 yards and a touchdown, 93 yards, 122 yards,
and then 76 yards last week uh feels a little low
feels a little low what a little low on emmanuel sand oh you said his last four games you meant
his last four games with drew breeze and without michael thomas yes thank you thank you azers stats
thank you well shouldn't shouldn't we count isn't that what we should be looking at no that's fine
i just was confused looking at the game logs when you were reading the numbers. I mean, you've been
working with me for how many years? You should know
what the Acer stat is going to be.
It's pretty impressive that I deciphered
it that quickly.
He's actually, he's averaging over
16 PBR points in those four games.
I think you guys are a little low on him.
Not gonna lie. Especially you, Heath.
I don't know. I
like a lot of receivers, so I think there's an opportunity for him to be a starter.
It just depends, again, what your team looks like.
Yeah, I'll move him up a little bit.
I would start Sanders over Marquise Brown,
over Tyler Lockett, over Juju.
Would you start him over Chris Carson?
Probably not.
I was close in PPR.
How about Daryl Henderson?erson yes i would okay ezekiel elliott or emmanuel sanders sanders heath sanders starters at jared cook
uh i would prefer to sit him but you know this is but this is a touchdown spot for him.
Okay.
And, yeah, New Orleans DST is a start.
San Francisco at Arizona.
This is an interesting game.
San Francisco at Arizona.
Who's the best running back in this game?
Kenny Drake.
Yeah, I think so i think dave's a little nervous about kenny and drake i think we all are so why not wilson over him i'm a little nervous about jeff wilson how come yeah i think you can
make a case in non-ppr that wilson's better i don't problem with that. But in PPR, I think Drake has shown you a good enough sample size
over the last month that he'll be involved in the passing game.
Last week was frustrating.
Chase Edmonds played better than him, played more than him,
despite the fact that he was banged up all week.
If Chase Edmonds doesn't play, that's going to be fantastic for Kendrick.
So if you're a Drake fantasy manager, you're hoping for Edmonds to be out.
Yeah, you think there will be involvement in the passing game? Because what I
would be a little concerned about is that
Kyler Murray is back to being awesome.
He had his second highest ADOT
last week, and that is not
usually a good thing for
Kenyon Drake. He did have
two catches
last week.
Kyler was throwing the ball down the field a little bit more.
How many did Edmonds have, though?
I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know.
He had three catches.
No, no, no.
If Edmonds is out, yeah, that's great news.
That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
But if Drake, if Edmonds is in, are we thinking Drake is not going to be
that involved in the passing game?
I would say two catches is probably what you should expect.
Okay.
Bethard, I went back,
I looked at his five starts.
Oh, this is kind of funny.
I looked at his five starts from 2018 just to see his tendencies.
And Marquise Goodwin came up
just kind of naturally in my research.
I was like, oh, what a nice sign that is.
That's Dave's lucky player.
But he threw a lot to George Kittle.
George Kittle was really good.
So let's hope Kittle plays.
Heath and I have a fantasy cops question
for you. Okay.
Say said fantasy
player picks up someone
to make their lineup illegal,
and
let's say said player is not
IR eligible, but they stashed
said player on IR and win championship
with an illegal lineup?
Should they be allowed to be considered the winner
if their lineup is illegal?
I mean, I guess.
It's probably up to the commissioner to have caught that
before the game started. I don't know.
What if the person they're playing is the commissioner?
If you think it was an honest mistake, I don't know.
I don't want to answer this question.
I know it's not about me,
but like,
I'm very nervous right now.
Why are you nervous?
I just don't know who did this.
And I don't,
I don't want to answer.
You could infer based on the conversation we were just having.
Okay.
Well,
it's,
it's either it's one of you two or Dave, obviously.
No, I...
Well, just make him drop someone.
I'm sure he will.
Okay.
Send a note.
I hope it's not the lucky player.
That's awesome.
Okay.
Okay.
So, anywho.
Where were we?
I don't even know.
Brandon, I think you were doing A's or stats about CJ Beathard.
I was thinking through the kiddo a lot.
Brandon, I you because a must start even with
Beathard. Yes. Okay.
Any interest in Kendrick
Bourne? He's on the verge of breaking a Jerry Rice
record for I think rookies.
Holy cow. Any interest in
Kendrick Bourne? We're not interested
in Kendrick Bourne. Richie James is limited in practice.
Start or sit George Kittle if he plays?
He'll
be a start.
Any hesitation with Kyler
Murray, or do you think he's back?
He's back.
I'm starting him. The, like,
really good quarterbacks have just
killed San Francisco.
He's killed them in three games.
And they can't defend mobile quarterbacks.
They couldn't last year.
They've actually been a little bit better lately.
Josh Allen only had 11 yards, but guess what?
He threw a million touchdowns, and he was amazing.
So Kenyon Drake and Jeff Wilson are both, what,
around 20th or so in the rankings?
I know Drake is.
Oh, Wilson, I'm sorry?
And Drake.
Yeah, they're very close.
Okay.
Dan Arnold is a flyer.
He has four touchdowns in his last five games.
Niners are usually pretty good against tight ends,
a little bit worse lately.
Start DeAndre Hopkins.
And given that we saw more downfield passing from Kyler Murray,
do you consider Christian Kirk as a sleeper this week?
I think you can consider him as a sleeper.
I don't know if you're going to trust him in your championship week
if you haven't been playing him all this time.
So, you know, I think he's in that dart throw range.
Just to go back to Iuke,
he is just a little under 200 yards away
from breaking Jerry Rice's 49ers rookie record.
A little dab will do you.
Okay, let's go to Carolina at Washington.
How great would it be if he did it this week?
Why would it be?
To get to the 200 yards receiver. Oh, sure, that'd be great. Unless you're playing? Why would it be? To get 200 yards received.
Oh, sure, that'd be great, unless you're playing against them.
Wouldn't be so great then.
One thing to know about this game,
Carolina has allowed 51 or more yards to a tight end,
51 or more yards or a touchdown to a tight end in eight straight games.
So would you start Logan Thomas or George Kittle?
I'd start Thomas still,
but that's one that would probably kill me at the end of the game if I saw George Kittle? I'd start Thomas still, but that's one that would probably
kill me at the end of the game if I saw George Kittle
play better. Yeah, I would leave Thomas
in as well. Okay.
We talked about Mike Davis,
DJ Moore. How about Robbie Anderson and
Curtis Samuel? How do you feel about them this week?
Not great.
No.
Number threes? I might have to start Robbie Anderson, but they. Number threes?
I might have to start Robbie Anderson,
but they're number threes.
Would you start Emmanuel Sanders over them?
Samuel and Anderson?
Yes.
I don't think so.
Do you need the Azers that again?
I could give you another one.
Here's another one. Okay. Washington allows the second fewest fantasy points to wide receivers that's not really an answer so actually the the stat is
jamie kind of mentioned this um in their last seven games ah screw it i'm not even going to
read this it's just annoying okay you convince me yeah so sanders over
it's just a clunky stat basically they've been kind of hit or miss they've given up some big Okay, you convince me. Yeah. So is Sanders over?
It's just a clunky stat.
Basically, they've been kind of hit or miss.
They've given up some big games to wide receivers recently.
They've also done well, so they've been kind of average.
All right, JD McKissick.
I know you probably don't start him in non-PPR,
although Heath does have him as a starter,
and he has gotten 11 and 13 carries in his last two games.
But in PPR, you know, how does he compare to Deandre swift leonard fournette guys like that heath i'm mostly starting
him over those guys as long as antonio gibson's out and jamie right now i have him in that range
um i'm not comfortable with it because i do think that if washington is winning this game
his reception totals come way down if if Washington is winning this game, his reception totals come way down.
If Washington is losing this game, whoop, his reception totals go way up.
So if they're chasing points,
then you're going to be thrilled that you have J.D. McKissick with or without Antonio Gibson.
If they're not, I think it's going to be a little bit of a problem for him
because he's going to have those empty touches that we don't love
because he doesn't get the goal line opportunities.
That's Peyton Barber. So you need a favorable game script for him and you need
you know no Antonio Gibson to play the nice thing for him is that without Gibson it now appears that
his floor is what he gave you against San Francisco last week two weeks, and not what it was against Dallas
where he had three touches in the game.
I think he's probably still going to get you
six or seven non-PPR points even in a game they win.
What are your expectations for Terry McLaurin?
Guess a stat line.
Can I just tell you what I projected?
Yes.
Seven for 70.
Five for 69. Five for 69.
Oh, okay. Very close.
And start
Logan Thomas, and I think that's
pretty much it for this game. I guess I can give you
some... J.D. McKissick or Terry McLaurin?
I think that's a good one.
I would start
McLaurin in both.
It is time for the
Bonanza!
I'm so sorry. Tennessee at Green Bay
and
these two teams are two of the three best
offenses in football. Kansas City,
Tennessee, and Green Bay are top three
in yards per play and scoring.
And they're all almost tied
in points. They're within two points
of each other. Interestingly
enough, in terms of yards per play on defense,
they're very, very similar,
but Tennessee has seen the second
most plays in the NFL. Green Bay has seen
the fewest plays in the NFL.
So that is a
really interesting kind of
look at the way these two teams play. Ryan
Tannehill is a start. Tannehill over
Wilson, right?
Yes.
Okay. Ryan Tannehill is a start Tannehill over Wilson, right? Yes. Okay.
Uh, Ryan Tannehill or I know Jalen hurts is ahead of him.
So Ryan Tannehill or, um, Justin Herbert.
Uh, yeah, I think I, I think I'd go with Tannehill.
I think I have Herbert actually projected higher,
but Tannehill's safer.
Tannehill or Mayfield, Trubisky?
Tannehill.
Tannehill.
Tannehill or Brees?
Tannehill.
Okay, so basically the guys who are starting ahead of him
are like the Studs, Lamar Jackson will be in there,
and Jalen Hurts.
Okay, Start Henry.
Start Jones.
Start Brown.
Start Davis.
Start Adams.
Start Tunyon.
What do you think about Jonu Smith?
We'll start with him.
And then we'll go to MVS slash Alan Lazar.
Lazar got a lot of snaps last week.
Jonu Smith, Jamie, start or sit?
I would prefer to sit him.
It was nice to see 5-4-50 last week for him. I think it was on six targets. So he was more involved in the passing game, but they've been, you know, kind of
using all three of their tight ends a little too much for my liking. And the Packers, for the most
part, have been good against tight ends. So I prefer to sit Johnny Smith. I would start Austin
Hooper. I would start Tyler Higbee. I would actually start Cole Komet over him as well.
So don't love John O'Smith.
Robert Tunyon, you know what you're getting.
You're not getting a ton of yards.
He has a touchdown in five straight games.
Tennessee, 21st against tight ends.
They're not good.
Alan Lazard, is he a decent sleeper this week?
I mean, you know, it's championship week,
so I can't imagine too many people are starting Alan Lazard, Heath,
but any
expectations for him?
I mean, I think it's
kind of the same with him
and you're just hoping
that he gets a long touchdown.
I don't think he's going
to be like someone
you really want to start.
Go back to Christian Kirk.
Same type of guy.
Right, right.
All right, so Miami's
at Las Vegas here
and we've talked a lot
about this game,
but Josh Jacobs, you know, you talked about it earlier, Jamie.
He's in that DeAndre Swift kind of group, Chris Carson.
That's more non-PPR.
Swift is obviously much better in PPR.
In seven losses, he has two games
with more than six non-PPR points and two games with more than six non-PPR points
and two games with more than nine PPR points.
You know, you figure it'll be pretty competitive, though.
It's a three-point spread,
so that bodes well.
You should get the carries,
but yeah, I don't know.
I mean, he's not a slam dunk.
Would you start Fournette over Jacobs?
I would.
Would you start... You would start Miles Sanders over him? I would. Would you start
you would start
Miles Sanders over him?
See who's interesting
that we haven't talked about.
Yeah, like I'll give you
a scenario.
I'm in a championship
where I have
Dalvin Cook,
Josh Jacobs,
David Montgomery,
and James Robinson.
So had Robinson
played or if he plays,
I will probably go back
to him over Josh Jacobs.
But not Jeff Wilson?
You guys wouldn't start Wilson over him?
I would still start Josh Jacobs.
All right. How about Dobbins or Jacobs?
I would start Dobbins over Jacobs in non-PPR.
I'd start Jacobs.
What do you think about twoua this week, Jamie?
Or let's go to Heath.
Sorry, Heath.
There's Tua many good quarterbacks to start him.
He's a Tua quarterback or super flex only.
But he is like top 18.
So he's not, he's better.
Tua or Cousins?
I'd start Tua if everybody's back.
Tua or Rivers?
I'd start Tua. Tua. Okay Tua or Rivers? I'd start Tua.
Tua.
Okay.
We love Savan Ahmed of Gaskin.
We're out, but that's not going to be the case.
So you're looking at flexes there.
And if Devante Parker plays, start or sit?
If Devante Parker doesn't play, any interest in Lin Bowden?
Jamie?
Yes.
A lot of interest in Lin Bowden if there's no Devante Parker.
But if Parker plays, it's like the running back situation.
It becomes more clouded because how healthy is he?
How effective will he be if he's out there?
And so this defense is bad for the Raiders.
You know, I mean, they have a very, very difficult time
stopping opposing wide receivers as we saw.
Tyron Johnson and Jalen Guyton, the non-top two receivers
for the Chargers, beat them up last week.
So it is a good spot for Parker.
It is a good spot for Bowdoin if there is no Parker.
But I don't think it's a, oh my God, I have to start Devontae Parker type of scenario.
So if you have Parker, he's in that number three fantasy receiver range.
I would start him over Juju and Tyler Lockett, for example, if he does play.
You want names.
I do.
I love names. If Devontae Parker plays, would you start him over Juju and Tyler Lockett, for example, if he does play. You want names. I do. I love names.
If Devante Parker plays, would you start him over Gaskin or Ahmed?
I would not.
I'd start Gaskin.
I think I'd start Parker in full PPR.
All right, then.
Derek Carr or Tua?
Tua.
Carr.
If he remains a full participant all week. right we talked about nelson agalor
much earlier in the show he's quite high on nelson agalor um and darren waller you are going to start
so mike kasicki if mike kasicki plays would you start kasicki or higby
kasicki yeah kasicki and this is a really cool matchup because Derek Carr does not throw interceptions.
He has seven interceptions in 14 games.
The Dolphins do basically nothing but intercept passes.
The Dolphins are actually...
Mahomes had two going into the matchup there
for the season.
Who did what?
Mahomes had two interceptions in the season
before he played Miami,
and then he got three.
You know, the Dolphins are actually the lowest.
They've allowed the fewest points in the NFL.
But per play, they've allowed the 10th most yards per play.
That really surprised me.
That's a very Belichick-type defense.
It's kind of true.
All righty, that's it for today's show.
They've given up the 7th most yards to wide receivers this year.
That's wild.
That's why you like Aguilar.
Okay.
That's why I like Nelson Aguilar.
There you go.
It was all fluky though.
Well, Aguilar's probably going to throw an interception or two, knowing the Dolphins.
Okay, that's it for the Acer stats and for the mostly NFC home games,
plus the Friday and Saturday games.
Dave and Jamie will have the rest for you on Friday.
We will have a mailbag on Saturday.
Looking forward to that.
Merry Christmas, everybody.
And good luck.
Good luck.
No games tonight, so enjoy Christmas Eve.
Thanks again.
See ya.