Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC): Jameson Williams, JSN, RB Injury Updates and More (10/18 Fantasy Football Podcast)

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Starting point is 00:01:16 He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Good morning, everybody. Happy Friday, and welcome to Fantasy Football Today, presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. I am borderline offended by how poorly the Saints played last night. It was an insult to football, and really just a boring, boring game. It's going to get so much better, folks,

Starting point is 00:01:45 we promise. But hey, big night for Javante Williams, big night for the Broncos DST. And let's talk about it here. We also have six games to take a look at today. And those games are pretty good ones. Detroit at Minnesota, Houston at Green Bay, Seattle at Atlanta, Carolina at Washington, Philadelphia at the Giants. And Las Vegas at the Rams. Good morning, Dave and Jamie. Happy Friday, guys. Yo. Good morning.

Starting point is 00:02:12 Detroit 33, New Orleans 10. How about Denver 33, New Orleans 10? Also them. Denver 33, New Orleans 10. I thought you were about to get me on Game of the Week with that. No, this was anything but. Yeah, just really. I love Detroit being in the Game of the Week.

Starting point is 00:02:30 I know. Right. I don't know if they're the Game of the Week. In fact, I completely forgot about it until just now. I sure you did. Right. I swear. Every week you forget about it, and then it comes up in the show, and it's fine.

Starting point is 00:02:42 But just get the right game. I remember, like, eventually. I'm going to look in the show and it's fine. But just get the right game. I remember like eventually. I'm going to look at the schedule and figure that out. But what are your fantasy thoughts on yesterday? You said it. We can move on. That's it. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

Starting point is 00:02:58 Yeah. Well, okay. Give me your thoughts on Javante Williams who had 14 carries, 88 yards and two touchdowns, three catches for 23 yards. And give me your thoughts on Javante Williams, who had 14 carries, 88 yards, and two touchdowns, three catches for 23 yards. And give me your thoughts on Alvin Kamara, who has now been less than 40 yards or fewer in three straight games and was a mega dud yesterday, but he did have six catches, thankfully. I would love to see them trade him.

Starting point is 00:03:19 If you're the Saints at this point, Cam Jordan, Marshawn Lattimore, Alvin Kamara, get some assets and just blow up the whole thing in time to rebuild. This is not going anywhere. Derek Carr is certainly not going to lead you back to the playoffs or anything of significance. I mean, look, Javante is in a good spot. It's funny.

Starting point is 00:03:40 I do a prop segment for the Thursday night, Monday night game, and I said, oh, he's going to get 80 to 90 yards rushing. And he's going to score his first touchdown. So I was happy to see that come through. It was a very low number. It was like 44 and a half was his rushing prop, which was weird. The Saints are now the free space. That's the running back you want to start against almost on a weekly basis. I mean, look

Starting point is 00:04:06 what the Bucks did the week before. Look what Javante just did. It's a good spot for Javante because they get Carolina next week. So he's serviceable as a starter for at least the next week. And then if you want to sell high, you sell high after that. I'm going to say Carolina is still the free space, but New Orleans is rapidly gaining ground on them to be another free space. And listen, this is 300 yards rushing in the last two weeks. It's terrible. And they played almost 80 snaps on defense last week. And now here they are again on Thursday and you could just tell they were beat up and Pete Werner, I don't think played. They'll get some guys healthy eventually in their front seven, and that'll help them be a little bit better.

Starting point is 00:04:46 But it's not I'm not here to tell you that the Saints defense is about to rebound and be great. But I do think that this is the best it gets for Javante Williams. I started thinking about the teams that Alvin. If you say Carolina is the free space, that's what he gets next week. Oh, yeah, I love it. Oh, listen, I want I want Javante on my lineup next week for sure. And then after that, like you said, you could sell high teams that Alvin Camara makes sense for.

Starting point is 00:05:10 No. Okay. I don't think they're going to trade Alvin Camara. Like a contract here. So it does make. Yes. Unless they're going to pay him. Fine.

Starting point is 00:05:19 They should go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. Kansas city, Denver. If they're serious about trying to make a run, and they're four and three, so they might. And I don't know if I can even name a third one. Oh, Dallas.

Starting point is 00:05:33 They're kind of in the same boat as New Orleans right now. Jerry's not giving up. I just bit my tongue. I'd love it for fantasy, but I don't think Dallas is going anywhere. He stinks. And let's – hold on. Let's update the stats now on Alvin Kamara. He stinks?

Starting point is 00:05:53 This was your sleeper of the year? No, but he stinks. He's now gone 48 straight games without a carry longer than 30 yards, and now it's 20 straight games without a 20-yard carry. He's good for fantasy in New Orleans because they will throw him the ball a bunch, and his lack of rushing ability doesn't matter. That was always my case for Alvin Kamara.

Starting point is 00:06:13 In terms of his fantasy value with him staying on the Saints rest of the season, I mean, everything's going to get better with Derek Carr coming back, which might be as early as next week. So are we panicking here? Because, I mean, this just seems... I'm mad at myself. Not that I had anyone that I could bench him for in the leagues that I have him in, but, like, I knew he was...

Starting point is 00:06:30 I just knew he was going to be horrible. I knew this offense was going to be dreadful. Denver is a seriously good defense, and this was embarrassing. It just... It feels like, duh. So, but going forward, I mean, isn't he still a must-start guy?

Starting point is 00:06:44 He's still a must-start guy, you know, unless you're completely loaded at the position. It's just, you know, you're going to have to deal with some down performances. And certainly if it's half or non-PPR where, you know, you're not getting the full benefit of what his game typically is. But, yes, Derek Carr will clearly make things better for this entire team. But they just lost Shahid. You're hoping Carr comes back next week.

Starting point is 00:07:06 It's no guarantee. And so is Olave going to clear the concussion protocol? You know, there's a lot of play here with this offense that's, you know, kind of miserable right now. How about when the offensive line gets healthy? And that could take longer than Derek Carr coming back. But there's still a pathway where if Kamara stays in New Orleans, he can be a top seven, eight fantasy running back in full PPR. I did think that, you know, I feel like his snap share was a little bit lower.

Starting point is 00:07:36 They were mixing in Kendrick Miller and Jamal Williams a little bit, even in the first three quarters. But still, it was good enough. All right. I don't know that there's much else to say about this game. Harlan Sutton is definitely on the cut list if you need to. Yeah, that stunk. He'll still have some games where he scores.

Starting point is 00:07:51 Yeah, it's not an auto drop. But it's, you know, depending on how this weekend looks and whoever steps up and that's the worst player on your team, then you can cut him. And congratulations, Will Lutz revenge game. He came through. And Bo Nix is now on pace for 619 rushing

Starting point is 00:08:10 yards this year. More than his passing yards, which is impressive. 3,026 passing yards. I saw somebody tweet. I wish I gave him credit. I'm sorry. It was funny. That Sean Payton drafted a smaller, slower Taysom Hill in the first round.

Starting point is 00:08:27 Yeah. Drew Brees said something like that on the broadcast. The way he threw that first drive or second drive, whatever, where he had two guys wide open. He underthrew and overthrew somebody in the exact same throw. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah. All right.

Starting point is 00:08:42 Sunday is always a great day, always a fun day. You know we're here for our Sunday night recap at 8 p.m.-ish Eastern. But early in the morning, London game. So we've got a 9 a.m. show. So, yeah, 9 a.m. It's only on YouTube, I think, this week. YouTube.com slash Fantasy Football Today. And then we're at it again at 12.

Starting point is 00:09:03 So it's 9 to 10 a.m. and then noon to 1, youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. Let's do some news and notes. Drake Mays seems like he's good to go and it seems like Russell Wilson's going to be the starter, but not official yet.

Starting point is 00:09:20 All right, all the running back. I mean, based on what Justin Fields was saying, it sounds like it's official. Okay, so let's just assume it's going to be Russell Wilson. All right, All the running back. I mean, based on what Justin Fields was saying, it sounds like it's official. Okay. So let's just assume it's going to be Russell Wilson. All right. That said, the running back news is what we really have to follow here. And Ramondre Stevenson missed practice again,

Starting point is 00:09:34 but he's apparently making the trip to London. So that's encouraging. Aaron Jones was limited. You know what? Why don't we just go this one by one? All right. Jamie Patriots backfield. Go.

Starting point is 00:09:51 Stevenson or Gibson would be a number two running back if one, if Stevenson is active, he's number two running back. If Gibson is starting without Stevenson there, he's number two running back. Okay. And remember. Around 20th, 20 to 24. We have a mailbag. We have a mailbag at 2.30 p.m. on Friday.

Starting point is 00:10:08 So we'll have updated injury reports for most of these situations, and we'll review this again. Dave, Jacksonville running backs. If there's no ETN, I like Bigsby as a low-end number two fantasy running back. I would like him better than Antonio Gibson. This Patriots run defense has been terrible. If ETN plays, it kind

Starting point is 00:10:25 of ruins everything. And I think that Bixby would be more of a flex and ETN. I don't know if we can trust it because we don't know how much it's going to play. Okay. Aaron Jones was limited. We're going to talk about that game in a little bit. James Cook practiced in full and Ray Davis was limited with a calf injury downgraded to limited Jamie James Cook practicing in full is a great sign. If he plays, where are you going to rank him? He's right around 15, you know, so a good number two running back. Very tough defense that he's facing. And as we discussed yesterday, the injury notwithstanding, if Ray Davis is healthy,

Starting point is 00:11:00 he's going to probably get more touches than he has previously when the two were working together because he did a great job last week against Jets. So I would assume they should give him an opportunity to still play a little bit more. But we'll see now. But you're much happier to have James Cook on the field. Rashad White was limited. Todd Bowles said the Bucs are going to ride the hot hand. Another game that we talked about yesterday.

Starting point is 00:11:22 Can we just say if Rashad White plays, we should sit, try our best to sit our, any bucks running back against Baltimore. That's a fair thing to say. That's fair. I I'm fair. The one thing I would tell you is we know the Ravens run defense has been very good this year.

Starting point is 00:11:37 They do have some weaknesses as far as allowing pass. We're running backs to catch passes. And that's a role that I think Rashad White will retain. So you might be able to squeeze out a floor of like eight PPR points, and maybe it could get into the double digits without issue with Rashad White. He would be my highest-ranked Bucs running back if we knew he was going to play, but none of them would be top 24. Jordan Mason was limited.

Starting point is 00:12:02 Jamie, your thoughts on the Niners against the Chiefs? I'm guessing they're going to try and get him out there if they can, but they're going to be smart about it based on what Kyle Shanahan said coming off the game last week against Seattle. He's had extra time to get ready and get healthy because the last time he played was on a Thursday night. So if he starts, I think he's a number two running back. I don't think you put him at the top of the list like we have been. It's a tough matchup as well because Kansas City has just been so good against opposing running backs, but it would be great to have Jordan Mason out there as opposed to trying to figure out if Isaac Arendo

Starting point is 00:12:30 or Patrick Taylor is going to get more work and who would be better. Mason or James Cook in the scenario that they both play? Cook. Cook. Okay, Mason or Chuba Hubbard? Hubbard, that's not close. Yeah, I can't wait to tell you how good Chuba Hubbard has been with Andy Dalton.

Starting point is 00:12:45 It's going to be our stat of the game. Devon Achan practiced in full, so we're expecting him. Brian Robinson practiced. We're going to talk about that game. Could be a good game for the running backs. All right, Nick Chubb. Workload's going to be a work in progress, according to offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey.

Starting point is 00:13:00 They get the Bengals this week, Dave. Nick Chubb, James Cook, Jordan Mason. Where is he with those guys? He's at the bottom. I don't want to run Chubb in my fantasy lineup unless I am just out of other options. And although I want to buy into him coming back and getting 20 carries for 150 yards and two touchdowns and having a monster game, I'm nervous. I don't know how much he's going to play.

Starting point is 00:13:23 And he could be limited to 10 touches. And even 10 touches for Nick Chubb, we've seen that before. It's not bad necessarily, but what's the floor? As Heath would say, it's zero. So I would be very cautious to use Chubb this week. Okay, just a few more. Zamir White was limited. We're going to talk about that game a little bit later.

Starting point is 00:13:43 And finally, I think, Jamie, let's end it with the Colts because Trey Sermon did practice yesterday. Still no practice for Jonathan Taylor. Can you trust any running back in this dream matchup against the Dolphins? I think both Sermon and Goodson can be flex options depending on what you need. I still think that Sermon will get the chance to have more carries. Goodson will certainly have more opportunities in the passing game. I'm with you. I would like to see the more explosive running back at this point get more touches, but I don't know if the Colts necessarily feel that way.

Starting point is 00:14:11 So just something to keep an eye on there with both of them. But Goodson should be rostered in more leagues than he is. And Sermon, for the people that dropped him, I think made a little bit of a too hasty move because if Taylor is out, this matchup is too good. There could be an opportunity here for Sermon to have a similar type of rushing game where it was, I don't remember the exact numbers, like 10 carries for

Starting point is 00:14:30 like 30-some-odd yards. I'd put a little bit more on that. I'd take the over on that, but find the end zone and maybe a couple catches, which he did not have last week. Maybe the efficiency goes up a little bit for him with Anthony Richardson under center instead of Joe Flacco. I don't know. I'm just trying to make a case to make Trey Sermon look decent. He stinks. But I feel like the ceiling is around like 11 non-PPR points, and I don't think either running back could necessarily get a ton of catches because it's Richardson under center and not Flacco.

Starting point is 00:14:59 Richardson just takes all the fun away. Well, he sucks up all the fun for himself. Yeah, that's what mobile quarterbacks do. They really, they're selfish. They're not in a mean way, but they're fantasy selfish. Final question there. Would you start a Bucs running back or a Colts running back? I would start a Colts running back.

Starting point is 00:15:25 Well, I mean, I would start Jonathan Taylor if he makes a miraculous recovery. He's out there on the field. I might lean toward Rashad White if it's full PPR. What do you think Rashad White's going to do, though? Catch four or five passes. In the game of the week, yeah. Oh, no.

Starting point is 00:15:42 The Bucs and the Ravens. It's a shootout on Monday night. It's the game of the week. Hey! Alright, okay. I was hoping you were going to go Lions-Vikings as the game of the week, but that's not a bad second choice. You were waiting. Yeah, I had to throw you off,

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Starting point is 00:17:13 Tough break there. Cooper Cup was limited. That felt like so callous. Like, oh, he's out for the season. Tough break. Next news item. Now that stinks. He was having a really good year

Starting point is 00:17:21 and, you know, wish him a speedy recovery and he'll be an interesting guy to evaluate next year. And, you know, wish him a speedy recovery, and he'll be an interesting guy to evaluate next year. Okay, now, Cooper Cup was limited. Jordan Whittington still limited. Marvin Harrison Jr. still in the concussion protocol. They have the extra day. They have the Monday night game.

Starting point is 00:17:36 He did practice, so that's a good sign. Yeah. Yeah, so how – okay, let me get the rankings out right now. Kyler Murray is 18th for Jamie, 19th for Dave, 14th for Heath. If Marvin Harrison plays, where would you move Kyler Murray to? At best is where Heath has him. Yep, not a top 12 quarterback. Okay, that would be 14th.

Starting point is 00:18:05 And Malik Neighbors is out of the concussion protocol. He's good to go. Jacoby Myers missed practice again, so he missed last week's game and not looking good right now. Mike Evans missed practice with a hamstring injury. Anyone concerned about this one? A little bit. We know that he left for a spell last week, and he's not

Starting point is 00:18:21 exactly a burner to begin with, so if he's got a hamstring injury that slows him down even more, I think that could really cap his upside and a game where the, the bucks clearly need them every week. It's silly to say that, but if Tampa is not going to be able to run the ball there, they absolutely need Mike Evans to be at his best. And it sounds like he's not going to be at his best.

Starting point is 00:18:40 Oh boy. That's not going to be good for the game of the week. Dontavian wicks still practicing DJ shark limited in practice for the Chargers. Deontay Johnson missed practice again. So that stinks. Yeah, that's something to keep an eye on too. If he practices on Friday, he should be fine for the game. But if he doesn't, then it might be injury. It might be for another reason. He has been missing Wednesday practices, but I don't think Thursday practices too often. He did miss one day of practice earlier

Starting point is 00:19:10 this year because it was raining, and he just didn't want to practice in the rain. He didn't want to slip or something like that, and he ended up playing, and I think he was just fine that week. Oh, man. He's had one bad game with Dalton. It's the Bears game where everybody was bad. Right. Bears are good against the pass.

Starting point is 00:19:25 Last four games, he's been number 11 per game. You're starting him if he's active against the Commanders. It's not even a question. Yeah, on pace for, I think, 180 targets. Juju Smith-Schuster was limited with a hamstring injury. That's a midweek downgrade, so we're going to keep an eye on that one. Tyler Lockett, same thing. He missed practice.

Starting point is 00:19:42 We'll keep an eye on that one. Josh Downs and Michael Pittman practiced, so they're back. And still no decision. No decision on Amari Cooper, right? Not yet. I'd be surprised if he didn't play. Yeah, why would they not play him? And Ricky Pearsall practiced in full, which is interesting for the Niners.

Starting point is 00:20:00 That doesn't mean he's going to play this week. And Juwan Jennings mispracticed again. So maybe Ricky Pearsall fills in for Juwan Jennings. Tight end, we still don't know if TJ Hawkinson is going to play. He's been limited in practice. And Dallas Goddard missed practice again. And on the offensive line, the Patriots are going to be without an offensive tackle. Tampa Bay Center, Graham Barton practiced.

Starting point is 00:20:20 That was good. The teams that are pretty beat up on defense would be Houston at Green Bay. Legereus Sneed missing another practice at Buffalo. That's a big one. Another reason to use Amari Cooper. The biggest ones. These guys say they expect to play, but they have missed Wednesday and Thursday practice. Brian Burns and Dexter Lawrence for the Giants.

Starting point is 00:20:42 That's enormous. Things are going great for the Giants lately. And the Seahawks are getting a little healthier up front, but really beat up in their secondary and still Reek Woolen and Trey Brown missing practice. That's about it. All right. One question for each game.

Starting point is 00:20:58 Detroit is at Minnesota. Start or sit, Jordan Addison and Jamison Williams. And let me just tell you an interesting note on this game, Detroit at Minnesota. Start or sit, Jordan Addison and Jamison Williams. And let me just tell you an interesting note on this game, Detroit and Minnesota. These two teams so far, they see the fewest running back carries per game and the most wide receiver targets per game in the NFL. So that's been what teams have done against them. And Detroit is the exact opposite. They run the ball all the time and don't throw much.

Starting point is 00:21:31 But this looks on paper like a great game for receivers. But starter sit Addison and or Jamison Williams. You're going to want to try and find ways to put these guys into your lineup. Probably more as like number three receivers, flexes, things like like that maybe you ran into the broncos defense already and you need some upside these are the perfect guys to bring it and i believe adam what is it that i sent you the vikings and the lions are the number one and two teams in ppr points per game allowed to wide receivers this year yeah yeah that's yeah this this this is a beautiful matchup this is a high scoring game This is a game of the week.

Starting point is 00:22:07 You know, I'll make this a joke. This is Dave's game of the week, yeah. Sorry, I hit the wrong button. Come on, Dave. Oh, yeah, I got a little karaoke there. Oh, you were singing? Oh, the music drowned you out. I'm sorry. I thought you were lip-syncing.

Starting point is 00:22:24 My bad. All right, Houston at Green Bay. C.J. Stroud rankings dispute. Jamie has him 10th. Heath has him 16th. He's not here to dispute. But Dave has him 4th. So, Jamie, you got him as a low-end number one.

Starting point is 00:22:37 It's a good week for quarterbacks. You know, I mean, look, you got C.J. Stroud. You're probably starting him. I do think Darnold has a higher ceiling. I also think Baker and Kirk Cousins have higher ceilings. Clearly, Baker's been great. Mike Evans will probably sway that based on his injury. We just haven't seen

Starting point is 00:22:51 top-end CJ Stroud yet, and still without Nico Collins. So, I think 10th is appropriate. That's at least how I feel. He looked pretty good last week. I see this game as a shootout as well and easily him having three, three touchdowns and plenty of yardage.

Starting point is 00:23:12 I think Stroud and love are going to go back and forth all game long. They're both top five quarterbacks for me. Love over Stroud. Adam Lee says the game of the week theme song sounds like the intro music to a mid eighties sitcom. So, Oh yeah yeah it does i've told you like in my mind's eye what i see when you do that this sunday on fantasy football

Starting point is 00:23:31 today dave and jamie are at it again and they're at each other's throats tune in at a special 9 a.m edition of fantasy football today see when the when the theme hits that part with the upbeat music going on after the dream sequence beginning, that's where I picture you dancing down the street, holding a bag of groceries. It's like Full House. Yeah, okay. Everywhere you look.

Starting point is 00:23:56 All right, Seattle and Atlanta. Who's a better, by this one also, potential game? Seattle and Atlanta. Darnell Mooney or JSN? Who do you like better? Mooney. I like Mooney better, but I do like or JSN? Who do you like better? Mooney. I like Mooney better, but I do like both of them. Yep.

Starting point is 00:24:08 Especially at Lockett's out. Ooh, yeah. If Lockett's out, would you still like Mooney better than JSN? Yes, slightly. Mooney could have had two touchdowns. He had the poorly thrown ball by Cousins, should have walked into the end zone, but he also had an end zone target.

Starting point is 00:24:24 That was kind of a tougher play, but he did get an end zone target. Yeah, it was a high ball, but it bounced off his hands. Carolina at Washington. Any interest in Andy Dalton? Not if Deontay Johnson does not play, but I think if you're stuck, he's not a bad pivot play. I'd still rather go with either of the quarterbacks in the London game over Andy Dalton,

Starting point is 00:24:46 but I, I see, I see more upside with him than I do with Patrick Mahomes. Oh my God. I can't believe I just said that. If Johnson plays, not if, yeah. Oh man. If there's no Deontay Johnson, then you can kick Andy Dalton with a curb like four other NFL teams have done. But I think that if he does have Johnson, he's, he's got a great matchup, and I assume that the Carolina Panthers will be trailing, if not in a competitive game. He's got potential for a good game. Yeah, and if there's no Deontay Johnson, even if there is, Xavier Liggett is 41% rostered.

Starting point is 00:25:14 He's a bit of a sleeper, I guess. Quick shout-out, by the way, to Jatavian Sanders. Got to just pay a little bit of attention to this. He's played 75% and 73% of the snaps in his last two games. Sanders has, this is Carolina rookie tight end. He has 12 targets in his last two games. He has, he had six targets in his first four games. All right. Philadelphia is at the giant starter sit Wandale Robinson. I mean, at this point, he's like an auto start in three receiver leagues. I think in two receiver leagues, you could still start him as well. He's getting, you know, his,

Starting point is 00:25:44 his buddy back who should draw some coverage in the league neighbors. And so why would you go away from him against this defense? Raiders at the Rams. Can the Raiders offense get going against the Rams? No. Without Myers, I think Madison without Zam Zamir White, is a decent sleeper just because he'll catch the ball, as we saw last week. And obviously, you're starting Brock Bowers.

Starting point is 00:26:11 But the offense as a whole, no. That's an interesting question for the one question for each game for that game. Why? Because who's using anybody on the Raiders other than Bowers and maybe Madison? I mean, what tough call is there in this game? You're going to start. There are three receivers for the Rams who carry some appeal that fantasy managers might want to consider starting.

Starting point is 00:26:34 Well, if Cup is out, if Cup is in, I don't know how many people would be trusting Whittington or Atwell at this point. Trusting. You may be stuck in needing them. Fair. But I think if he's out, then it becomes a definite question of

Starting point is 00:26:47 who do you trust? Who do you trust? I think that Kyron can be 10 points better than Javante Williams was on Thursday. And Stafford becomes an interesting play if Cup is back. Ah. All right, so fine.

Starting point is 00:27:03 So I'll change the question. And Parkinson is an interesting play without Cup. If Cooper Cup doesn't play, who are you starting in the Rams passing game? I still like Whittington the best based on what he's done his last two games. Atwell has certainly been consistent, but I don't think he has the same type of production just because his

Starting point is 00:27:20 targets have not been the same as Whittington's. And then Parkinson's a decent, you know, sleeper. If you need a tight end and PBR, didn't they both have a bunch of targets last game? Yeah. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:27:31 They both targeted everybody in the last two weeks. Right. Right. That's true. He has two more targets than that. Well, I've got Whittington higher too, but he's like a low end.

Starting point is 00:27:40 Number three receiver at well, more of a, like a bi-week flex type of guy. If there's no Cooper Cup, I don't mind either of those guys as DFS plays. Totally. Yeah, it's kind of weird. Both these teams, Raiders and Rams,

Starting point is 00:27:54 I feel like they should be worse against the past than they are. The Rams are 16th against wide receivers. The Raiders are actually 9th against wide receivers. That's because everybody runs on them. Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's partially true. partially true uh panthers last year they did well against george pickens last week they did well against the marty cooper those guys had eight targets and not not a lot with it but all right any more about those guys quarterbacks as opposed to those guys being shut down yeah

Starting point is 00:28:21 yeah okay anyway um let's move on okay so if the Waiver Wire, we're going to do a special edition of FFT Express. Check that out. FFT Express. We're going to do that right after this show. And if you haven't subscribed to that feed, you can, but we'll get to, you should, we'll get to Beat the Waiver Wire on FFT Express. So we get to the games in Detroit at Minnesota. And all right, starter sit Jared Goff,

Starting point is 00:28:45 who has scored 31.1 or 31.2 fantasy points in two straight games. Jamie, starter sit Jared Goff. He's a low-end starter. You know, like behind Stroud for me, I'd start him ahead of Kyler. I'd start him ahead of Mahomes. I think there's an opportunity here for him to continue to do what he's done. You mentioned how the running backs have been so successful, but he's still been as productive as he has been in those last two games

Starting point is 00:29:10 because he's been efficient. And so the thing that you'd be a little bit concerned about is he's still throwing 23, 25 passes and doesn't get multiple touchdowns. Then you're going to be in trouble. But look, this offense is humming right now. I think it's going to be a shootout based on how these two teams are operating, especially without Aiden Hutchinson to help the defense on the other side. So it feels like this is going to be without the interceptions.

Starting point is 00:29:32 You know, Jordan Love said the best game against the Vikings. It was really a lot of second half production. I just think Goff is going to have an opportunity here to continue to do what he's done. Not to 31 points, but probably 20 to 25. I started the week with him outside of my top 12. And even right now he's outside of the top 12, but you've got to give him consideration just based on the last two games. The fact that he was so efficient, almost 300 yards or over 300 yards from one over, over 301, almost 300 and the other multiple touchdowns and 25 or fewer pass attempts in each of those

Starting point is 00:30:02 past two games. The one thing that does hold me back a little bit is that this is a Vikings defense that blitzes like crazy. And the one thing we know about Jared Goff is that when he's under pressure, he's just not as good. And so will that efficiency still stand up when the Vikings are coming after him all the time, it's going to be like a 50% blitz rate. They're going to come after him.

Starting point is 00:30:24 And so that makes me a little bit nervous. But if he were taking on his own defense this week, he'd be top five. It'd be amazing because he wouldn't be under pressure. He'd be as efficient as he has been. Yeah. Someone actually gave me, this is the first time, I think, a listener gave me a stat

Starting point is 00:30:40 of the game. And it's from Frank. Actually, Dave, I got this. I borrowed this stat from Frank. He said Jared Goff is down 5.8 pass attempts per game from last year. And if you exclude the game against the

Starting point is 00:30:56 Bucks where he threw 55 times, he's down 12 pass attempts per game for last year. That could explain the decline of Laporta and Amon Russ St. Brown. And it is interesting. Amon Russ St. Brown is not even a top 15 wide receiver per game. His target share is great. His yak per catch is super low, which is weird. That will probably fix itself.

Starting point is 00:31:14 But he had four targets last week. So no one's going to sit Amon Ross St. Brown. And no one's going to sit a Lions running back. They're the best. Who's been a good first-round pick besides Barkley, Chase, Jefferson? On a per-game basis, A.J. Brown's been pretty good. A.J. Brown, yeah. But he missed a bunch of games.

Starting point is 00:31:38 Doesn't mean McCaffrey, obviously. Brees Hall and Bijan have not lived up to expectations. I feel like Brees Hall has actually been pretty good. He had two terrible games. Where is he? He's RB6. Yeah, no, he's been disappointing. No question, disappointing. RB14. Tyreek, we know.

Starting point is 00:31:57 CeeDee Lamb, no. Amon Ra, no. It's been bad. All right. Trading my first round pick for 2-2s next year. For Atwell? It's good. All right. Trading my first round pick for two twos next year. For Atwell? That's good. Why is this not going to be a big game for Jordan Addison?

Starting point is 00:32:15 I like him. I think, you know, Dave's right. He's only a number three receiver because it's hard to fit all those guys into 24 spots. But you've heard me say this a billion times. Like 36 is basically a still number two receiver. So it's a great opportunity for him. You know, you've only seen one really productive fantasy game, but I do like the fact that in the jets game where they were having to throw the ball a little bit more because the run game was suspect. He had eight targets. And so Jefferson's going to get his, the Hawkinson scenario is still at play here. So keep that in mind. They may activate him, but just given the opportunity to play against this defense right now,

Starting point is 00:32:47 I think Jordan Addison has got a chance to help your fantasy team. So this is a good week to be excited about it. I mean, the one thing that holds me back on Addison is that he's made two good plays all year. And one of them was rushing. He's also been hurt for, you know,

Starting point is 00:33:00 a couple of games, no doubt one came back rusty game. That's the game. He actually scored twice, but didn't have a lot of opportunities. No doubt. One came back, rusty game. That's the game he actually scored twice, but didn't have a lot of opportunities. You know, if there's no, I'm sorry, James, if there's no Aaron Jones, I'll like him more. Because they'll have to throw more. Okay.

Starting point is 00:33:15 And Jamison Williams, Addison or Williams for you guys? Williams, but it's, you know, more based on what his upside is, as opposed to, you know, Addison's going to get more targets. It's just been somewhat lucky that you're getting the games from Williams that you are, but he's only had one bad game this season. So his big play potential is always there. And I think just in a game where they could actually be chasing points, that's going to allow Jared Goff to throw some more. So if you believe in the Lions passing game,

Starting point is 00:33:45 which, you know, it's hard to say they're bad, I think you're going to get another opportunity here for Jamison to come up big and maybe we see, you know, seven, eight targets, which would be fantastic. They're going to win this game, by the way. So just the other side of Dave's point, which is accurate,

Starting point is 00:34:01 that they're going to send a lot of people at Jared Goff that lends to a lot of one-on-one coverage. It lends to a lot of, you know, if Goff, you know, reads the blitz correctly, you know, some open plays. And if they leave that guy open in any stretch, good luck. Guess who are the two top quarterbacks in the NFL in yards per attempt when blitzed? Darnold and Goff. Correct. Goff is averaging 13.3 yards per attempt, completing 73% of his passes when blitzed.

Starting point is 00:34:32 Wow. Yeah, he's a better quarterback now than he used to be. He's amazing. And Darnold is almost as good, 13.2 yards per attempt, 70% completion rate. When they're blitzed or when they're pressured, what was that set? Blitzed.

Starting point is 00:34:45 Okay. Yeah. Okay. Keep in mind, those will include numbers where a team blitzes, but the offensive line protects golf. Yeah, well, that's part of it. He might not be under pressure. I can look it up if you don't want to do it. I can look and see

Starting point is 00:35:01 how he does just under any type of pressure. Yeah, that's fine, but he still benefits from having a good offensive line, right? That they're going to— Oh, for sure. Running backs, I can pass protect. All right. So then the big thing here is Aaron Jones and Ty Chandler, right?

Starting point is 00:35:14 Because there's going to be a lot of starts in this game. Well, actually, before we get to that, let's just do Sam Laporta. Jamie, where do you have Sam Laporta? Still a top-12 tight end. You know, you've seen some better signs the last couple of games. The thing that was disappointing last week was he did have the big touchdown, but it was only target. So you want to see more involvement.

Starting point is 00:35:32 I think that will happen this week. So I'm certainly not benching him unless I have somebody better. Uh, you can make a case for Tucker craft. You know, if you, if you picked him up along the way, just because as Dave said, I think he's right. There's going to be a shootout between the Texans and the Packers, although it's a brutal matchup for Craft. The Texans have been really good against tight ends. Kyle Pitts, I like better this week just because of the injuries for Seattle.

Starting point is 00:35:55 But Laporta's still right there. It's hard to say he's an auto-sit or a guy you must sit. I agree. I've got the numbers on Goff. When he's pressured, it's only been on 52 dropbacks, 25 of 39. That's 64% completion rate, 8.4 yards per attempt on an eight out of 8.2 yards. That's one and a half more yards than when he's not pressured. Um, higher interception rate. Um, it's pretty good though. Lower off target rate. It's about the same. His quarterback rating is much lower, but this is, you're right. I'm, this is a better guy. I'm going to move golf up. This is a better golf than what we've seen in the past.

Starting point is 00:36:31 Cause in the past, when he's been under pressure, I mean, he goes into the fetal position. It was terrible. Now it's not as much. So this is, it's going to be a tough nut to crack for the Vikings pass rush, just as much as it's going to be for the lions offensive line. Golf should be a top 12 quarterback. And you know what? I'm sorry. I've shortchanged because we haven't talked about Darnold. And that is the big difference, I think, between Goff and Darnold. Goff has the third best

Starting point is 00:36:54 yards per attempt when pressured. Darnold is great with a clean pocket. Great. He stinks when he's pressured this year. His yards per attempt is 4.7 yards per attempt when pressured, whereas Goff is at 8.4. Huge difference. Now, if Aiden Hutchinson were playing, it would be more concerning. So, you guys are pretty high on Sam Darnold.

Starting point is 00:37:18 Where do you have Darnold? I like him better than Stroud. Wow. Obviously, I like Stroud top five. Darnold is 10th for me. I like him better than Goff. I like him better than Stroud. Wow. Obviously, I like Stroud top five. Darnold is 10th for me. I like him better than Goff. I like him better than Mahomes. I like him better than Kyler.

Starting point is 00:37:32 I like him better than Drake May. Yeah. Well, Drake May could be good. All right. I mean, I'm being silly about it, but yeah. It's not that silly. Yeah, Darnold's 9th or 10th for you guys. Okay. All right. Now, Jamie, let's talk about aaron jones and ty chandler i think if jones plays he's at least a number two running back you know he's not going to be at 100 but still the upside there is is always on the table it's a brutal matchup the lions have been really good

Starting point is 00:37:58 against running backs and hutchinson's absence will certainly be felt but i don't think it's enough to say okay they're not easy to run on. So, you know, Jones will be involved in the passing game if he's healthy, but it just feels like there, you know, I know Kevin O'Connell said the, the trade for cam acres wasn't about Jones's availability or long-term

Starting point is 00:38:14 health. It was more about depth, but still why make that move right after you have a significant injury to the player at that position. And we know what's been the history for Jones. Even last year, you go back to it. He came back, I think, from the first injury he had,

Starting point is 00:38:29 whether it was his ankle or his hamstring, and then he got hurt again. I wouldn't fully trust Aaron Jones unless you're stuck. And I don't really love Ty Chandler. I mean, you know, he's been more of a pedestrian backup for a reason. He had some good moments last season in some favorable matchups when he got a lot of volume. I don't know if we'll get that volume now that Cam Akers is there. Remember, this isn't a guy walking off the street that doesn't know the team. He was with the team last year, you know, before he got the Achilles injury. So he was also with O'Connell with the Rams.

Starting point is 00:38:54 So they, they know what he's capable of doing and he's done Ty Chandler like things, you know, been a pedestrian running back in his time in Houston. So, uh, it just feels like a scenario you want to avoid if Jones is not there. Cool. All right. And that's, I think that's it for this game. If TJ Hawkinson plays, would you start him?

Starting point is 00:39:13 Right. I thought that was it for that game. Yeah, no, it wasn't. I thought so too, but it wasn't. Would you start Hawkinson if he plays?

Starting point is 00:39:19 Yes. He would be a low end. Number one, he would be in that, um, Hunter Henry, Dalton Schultz, Mark Andrews range of somewhere between 10 and 14.

Starting point is 00:39:30 And that is it for this game. And now we're going to take a break. What about Will Reichard? Houston at Green Bay when we come back on Fantasy Football today. Welcome back. Houston at Green Bay. So we had a C. a CJ Stroud rankings dispute Dave has him 4th, Jamie has him 10th

Starting point is 00:39:48 and Heath 16th if you want to hear it, go to the one question for each game but you can start CJ Stroud there were some questions that I missed from the last game so I apologize for that I'll just read them real quick, Darnold or Purdy I thought we were done with that game Darnold, Sam

Starting point is 00:40:04 Darnold or Cousins? Cousins. Cousins. All right. Then Darnold or Stroud? I think you already answered that, but I'll do it again. Darnold or Stroud? Darnold.

Starting point is 00:40:16 Okay. Stroud for Dave, Darnold for Jamie. Start Joe Mixon. Start Stefan Diggs. He has scored 14.2 or more PPR fantasy points in all but one game. He has scored 18.5 or more in all but two games. He has been phenomenal start or sit tank Dell, Dave Richard.

Starting point is 00:40:34 I think he's the number three receiver, maybe even a borderline number two and non PPR love the volume, love the activity last week. The short area touchdown was really nice. And this was the dude who was on the same page with Stroud when push came to shove in games last year before he got hurt. Not to say that Nico wasn't either, but this is who Stroud leaned on a lot. And now he's just getting an opportunity to play with Collins out. So I think that Dell is absolutely in the range of start receiver, number two receiver.

Starting point is 00:41:06 Dell, is he ahead of Jamison Williams and Jordan Madison? Yes. Okay. Would you start Tank Dell or Chase Brown? No. I think I've got Dell ahead of Brown. There's somebody I was thinking of. I think I've got Dell ahead of Brown. There's somebody I was thinking of. I do.

Starting point is 00:41:27 Because Tank Dell is basically, he's almost a must start based on last week. But I think a lot of people were writing him off before last week. I understand. Even with the Nico injury, I don't think the expectations were super high going into last week.

Starting point is 00:41:40 I do feel like he's changed people's minds with a big game, which is fair. I mean, you need to see it, right? He hadn't done anything. Well, I mean, look, opportunity presented itself when he stepped up. Targets were there, season-high targets. And so the touchdown was great.

Starting point is 00:41:55 It was a beautiful catch and a great throw from Stroud. It was not the type of yards you want to see for Tank, though, because he's typically been more explosive when he's had his big games. But still, when you're getting those chances and performing and you know those chances will be there again why wouldn't you start him he hasn't had a big play yet this year like his longest catch on the year so far is 23 yards that's crazy i feel like this could be the game where he can have one of those massive plays you know what i feel like? I feel like next July or sometime in the offseason, Tankdale is going to say,

Starting point is 00:42:29 yeah, you know, I broke my leg. I wasn't really 100% last year. No, it'll be week 11, like Tony Pollard. Yeah, right, exactly. It's like everything, I have no idea.

Starting point is 00:42:40 Maybe he is 100%. Everything was like, oh, he's totally fine. He's completely back to normal. Maybe he's not because that's what they said about Tony Pollard in the preseason and then revealed, nope, he's actually not back to it. But, yeah, you see what I'm saying. Okay.

Starting point is 00:42:51 I have a feeling by next July we're ranking Tank Dell as a top 15 receiver. Ooh. Yeah. If no digs, you're saying. Start or sit, Dalton Schultz, who had eight targets last week, six targets the week before that three straight games though with pretty bad production despite having six to eight targets in two straight games anyway second most fancy points allowed to tight ends that's Green Bay so starters at

Starting point is 00:43:14 Dalton Schultz it's a great replacement option if you're stuck you know the the Ferguson and commit managers that need a bi-week replacement he was available in about 50 percent of leagues so you know you're banking on on targets and the chance for him to take advantage of this matchup so if the game is going to be a shootout i think we all expect that there's going to be probably the chance for six to eight targets again for dalton schultz and hopefully he delivers this time so it's not a slam dunk because we've seen it before he had a game without tank dell and he got six plus targets i think it was six targets exactly and he struggled he had eight targets last week without nico collins and he struggled so in this case kenny's question schultz or no joku i was starting to joke oh interesting dave

Starting point is 00:43:54 schultz or no joku i have no joku over schultz i i would start hunter henry over schultz i would start k dot and over schultz where i might get a little tricky is like noah fant versus schultz because Fant's going to be in a shootout too and if there's no Tyler Lockett I like it better for him but once you get to like Ertz, Fryermuth, Colby Parkinson, Johnnie Smith they all kind of look the same who do you think can score and I would hope that Schultz is ready to finally score and the volume as far as targets goes is nice, but he could leave you hanging. But he's in that range for me. He's like no better than top 15 among tight ends. You guys have Jordan Love as a top four quarterback, so start him. He has the second worst completion rate in football

Starting point is 00:44:37 ahead of only Jacoby Brissett, yet he has the fifth lowest off-target rate. Jordan Love has the seventh highest drop rate so far. And he's just been really good. So start him. And Houston is beat up defensively. Like I said earlier, they are beat up defensively. Jimmy Ward is out. Their rookie cornerback, Lassiter, is out.

Starting point is 00:44:56 And they give up the eighth most fantasy points quarterback. Start Josh Jacobs. When we look at all these replacement running backs from all that injury segment that we did earlier, is there anyone that you would start ahead of Josh Jacobs?

Starting point is 00:45:08 No, I don't think so. OK, Joe Mixon or Hubbard still an injury replacement, right? No, Joe Mixon or Josh Jacobs? Mixon. OK, Jaden Reed, a must start. Easy guy.

Starting point is 00:45:23 Easy start. Yep. Yes. And let's get into the fun ones here. Romeo Dobbs and Christian Watson start. Easy guy. Easy start. Yep. Yes. And let's get into the fun ones here. Romeo Dobbs and Christian Watson. We've talked about Addison, Jamison Williams, who was the guy from the last game that we talked about tank Dell. No, was it tank Dell? That's from this game. Oh, this is only the second game we've done. Okay. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:45:38 Where's a Christian Watson and Romeo Dobbs compared to those guys behind them. But Watson's still in the injury report. If for some reason he's out and wicks is out then dobbs would be certainly in the same conversation with them but these are more low and number three receivers that i think you should have the have the ability to use if you need them because of what we saw last week you know there's there's still volume concerns for these guys because they haven't been getting a lot of targets, but there's also a lot of touchdown potential. I've seen it happen for Dobbs last year,

Starting point is 00:46:06 happened last week with two scores happened for Watson last week with touchdown. So I think when we get red zone touches, red zone targets, Dobbs is going to have those chances because that's where Jordan love seems to go. And then big play potential. That's where Christian Watson tends to step up.

Starting point is 00:46:20 I have Christian Watson in like five leagues. You want to hear my, some decisions. Sure. Sure. All right. Watson versus to hear my, some decisions? Sure. Sure. All right. Watson versus Jamison Williams already answered that. I'm starting Watson.

Starting point is 00:46:29 I'm starting Jamison, Jamison. I've got Watson one spot ahead of James. Oh, I'm sorry. That'll change. If Dontavion Wicks is active, but I,

Starting point is 00:46:38 not that I expect Dontavion Wicks to take Watson off the field, but I, on the year, I just happen to have this open in front of me. He's got a 41.7% route rate. So he's not a full-time player for Green Bay. But like Jamie said, the dude is a touchdown magnet. So is Williams.

Starting point is 00:46:56 I would take Williams. Watson or Juju Smith-Schuster? Juju. I have Juju. I'm assuming that he's playing playing football he popped up on the injury report on thursday watson or amari cooper cooper i have cooper ahead of watson especially if sneeds out watson or brandon aubrey no he's on my bench this week ramondre stevenson or watson uh stevenson plays i play against Jackson agreed okay

Starting point is 00:47:25 I just by the way saw for the first time I played against Javante Williams in at least three leagues last night so now I'm in a really crappy mood so Romeo Dobbs I mean double digit PBR points for Dobbs sure he averaged 10 per game last year

Starting point is 00:47:42 stop me if you've heard this before. He led the Packers in route rate last week. Yeah, he's always out there. He plays a ton and just doesn't get crazy volume compared to other receivers. I'll put it this way. Reed gets more targets. Christian Watson gets about the same amount of targets, but they're valuable targets. They're end zone targets.

Starting point is 00:48:05 One of Dobbs' touchdowns last week was pretty fluky. He's very difficult for me to trust. Watson or Wandale from the chat? Wandale, PPR. In PPR, it's Wandale by a mile. Watson or Christian Kirk?

Starting point is 00:48:22 Watson. CWOT. Jamie, you mentioned Tucker Craft with a tough matchup here. The Texans give up the third fewest points to tight ends. Good against Komet. Good against Kincaid. Gave up a touchdown to Henry last week. And only five targets, no, four targets last week.

Starting point is 00:48:42 Five targets the week before for Kraft. So do you trust him? It really comes down to who you have. So if he's been someone you picked up to pair with Ingram during his injury, you pivot back to Ingram. If he's been somebody you picked up with the struggles of Andrews,

Starting point is 00:48:59 I would stick with Kraft over Andrews. I would start Pitts and Laporta. Laporta's tougher. Pitts, I would start Pitts and Laporta. Laporta's tougher. Pitts, I would start over him. I'm hoping, look, he's a little banged up right now, so that's something to keep an eye on. He's been on the injury report. I hope everything's okay. And then clearly, you've got to keep an eye

Starting point is 00:49:16 on the injuries for the Packers. If Reed's ankle's bothering him, if Wicks is still dealing with the shoulder injury, if Watson's got the ankle problem, then it should help Kraft. Dobbs was number one last week in route rate. Tucker Kraft was number two. That's on the Packers. If Watson's got the ankle problem, then it should help craft. Dobbs was number one last week in route rate. Tucker craft was number two. That's on the Packers. 83% of the time he was running a route.

Starting point is 00:49:31 Interesting. All right. Watson or Trey sermon from, from the chat. Watson. Agreed. Read or Malik neighbors. Neighbors.

Starting point is 00:49:43 Won't you be my craft Kraft or Hawkinson? Kraft. Yes. Dave, what should I have for dinner tonight? You should have a Fiesta-size sausage pepperoni pizza done crisp from the Aurelios in Homewood, Illinois. All right. Seattle's at Atlanta.

Starting point is 00:50:03 Stat of the game number one. The Seahawks have allowed 255 yards, multiple touchdowns and 25 or more fantasy points to three straight quarterbacks, Jared Goff, Daniel Jones, and Brock Purdy. And that was on 18, 34 and 28 pass attempts. Jamie, you have him as your start of the week. Who are you starting Kirk Cousins over? C.J. Stroud, Patrick Mahomes, Kyler Murray, Goff, Geno Smith, who I think still leads the NFL in passing yards. He does. So, look, he's clearly had the one huge game.

Starting point is 00:50:39 He's had one other game over 20 fantasy points. He's coming off a game where he only had 14.5 fantasy points against the Panthers, so he did not take advantage of a great matchup. But I think this is one of those opportunities where you're looking at what Seattle's allowed the last three weeks with the injuries that they have in their secondary. The chance for Cousins to be a superstar once again is on the table. So love the setup for him.

Starting point is 00:51:01 Stat of the game number two. Look, I know you're going to start Bijan Robinson, who we started in almost every league, but they're getting Byron Murphy back on the front for Seattle. They allow 3.8 yards per carry to running backs with Murphy on the field and 5.7 with him off the field. And some of that is like he and Leonard Williams both missed time at the same time. So it sucks. It's like you look at this matchup on paper, it looks like an amazing matchup for the same time. So it sucks.

Starting point is 00:51:25 It's like you look at this matchup on paper, it looks like an amazing matchup for Bijan Robinson. Maybe it still is. But if he does struggle, maybe it wasn't such a good matchup. Anyway, Bijan, yes. We'll just stick with the Falcons here. Drake London is an easy one. Kyle Pitts at this point I feel like is going to be started in most leagues.

Starting point is 00:51:42 Kyle Pitts or David Njoku? Pitts. Pitts. Pitts. And then, yeah, let's talk about Mooney here. He's in the top 24. He's got three games with 8.6 or fewer fantasy points, and he's got games of 17.8, 14.6, and 31.5 fantasy points. I waxed poetic about him last week, and he did not come through,

Starting point is 00:52:01 although I think Cousins was partially to blame for that. But, yeah, we're feeling – obviously, if you think Kirk Cousins is the start of the week, you've got to feel pretty good about Mooney. Feel good about all three of the guys. I mean, you know, clearly Drake London's been awesome. Mooney's had one down game in his last four. You've got to really just trust that the rapport that he has with Cousins is there.

Starting point is 00:52:21 He's not going to get 16 targets unless just Cousins goes nuts, like we saw in the Tampa Bay game. but i think if he catches the touchdown last week nobody's blinking an eye about darnell mooney and just keeping him in your lineup across the board the uh the setup for pits is is pretty good you know you look at what tight ends have started to do against the seahawks a lot of that is injury related which these guys are still banged up and when's the last time we said kyle Pitts had back-to-back games with 10 plus PPR points, which is what he's coming off of going into this game. Crazy.

Starting point is 00:52:50 College? No, just kidding. It doesn't happen very often. He had three catches for 70 yards. The problem, his target share is bad. He has not had a target share above 18.5% in any game this year. He's had a couple of chunk plays lately, 59 or more yards in three of his last four games. But Pitts, it's just, he's, it's Mooney.

Starting point is 00:53:12 Mooney is the number two guy. Pitts, again, repeat that stat, has not had a target share above 18.5% all year. That is really concerning. And so what's been pushing up his numbers lately have been big plays, right? 32 yard catch against Tampa. Uh, went for like 50 at Carolina. So he's starting to do something that we really haven't seen from him in a long time. Yeah. And that's make big time explosive plays. If he can do anything to add to his target share, then he'll end up being one of the best tight ends in fantasy. We just, I, this is something I didn't anticipate with Fitz is that he would make these explosive plays. It's been one a game, three of his last four games. The other thing

Starting point is 00:53:53 that I'll tell you about this game is that I'm not convinced that the Falcons defense is very good. They've got names on their D line and edge, but they can't get to the quarterback. I think they're last in sacks this year. I think they only have five sacks and Gino not only leads the league in passing yards, he leads the league in attempts per game. So there, there's a real chance that Seattle kind of forces the issue. And I think push comes to shove. I think the Falcons kind of like leaning on, on Kirk cousins. And so Kirk to me is an easy must start type of fantasy quarterback.

Starting point is 00:54:26 Um, had a hard time keeping them out of my top five. He's six. I'm starting them over Burrow Baker, Jalen hurts and all the other kind of fringish guys that we talked about. Wow. Wow. I just going into last week, Kirk Cousins had negative two rushing yards. He has one game this year where he's been credited with a scramble. So he's just, that's just a funny thing to say. He's just at a disadvantage when you compare him to quarterbacks who run. So starting him over Hurts to me is like bonkers, but it could happen. You would only do that in six points. What'd you say?

Starting point is 00:55:02 Okay, sorry, sorry. It's a Saquon game for Philly. No, he's not going to do anything. Just kidding. Ken Walker, start him. Geno Smith, the low-end starter. DK Metcalf. Lead-wide receivers have crushed Atlanta.

Starting point is 00:55:14 So DK Metcalf is someone that you're going to start. All right, so let's finish with JSN and Tyler Lockett. How about this? Tyler Lockett has had 61 or more yards in four of six games. He did that six times last year. How many times has JSN had 61 or more yards once? And it was in week two. Week two in the overtime game, he had a bunch of targets.

Starting point is 00:55:37 He did it before overtime, though. Yeah, I know, but he had 16 targets that game. But you guys consistently rank him ahead of Lockett. Why? I think his points per game have been better when he's been better, right? Like when both of them have been at their best. And he gets more targets and more catches, so I wouldn't be surprised if he's just averaging more points per game.

Starting point is 00:56:01 I think he's coming off like two of his last three with at least 13 PPR points, right? Three of his last four. Yeah, so there's a reason for that. Yeah, but right at 13, 13.1 in two straight games. Yeah, he's kind of like a Wandale. You can make the case that if Atlanta can't put pressure on Geno, he'll have more time to look downfield,

Starting point is 00:56:22 and that would help lockett and hurt JSN. Jamie, you were right. It's two of his last three and three of his last five. He had 10.3 fantasy points on nine targets last week. Don't disrespect Wondell. Wondell's better. And the only reason why JSN has more targets than Lockett on the year is because he had that 16-target game against New England.

Starting point is 00:56:43 You guys would start Wondell over JSN? Yeah. In PPR, yeah. I think we're done with this game. New England. You guys would start Wandale over JSN? Yeah. In PPR, yeah. I think we're done with this game. Noah Fant, you guys have as a sit, although the Seahawks, forget it, never mind. I mean, the Falcons. He's got six catches in two of his last four games.

Starting point is 00:56:56 He's just so inconsistent. All right, moving on to Carolina at Washington. Oh, sorry. Updated stat of the game. The Commanders have allowed 75 yards or a touchdown and now 37 wide receivers in their last 23 games, but only two wide receivers in their last three games. So we're going to keep an eye on that. New stats of the game.

Starting point is 00:57:19 Since Andy Dalton took over, Chuba Hubbard is RB6 per game. He is on pace for 2,074 total yards, 76 catches, and 12 touchdowns. And since Andy Dalton took over, Deontay Johnson is wide receiver 11 per game, and he's on pace for 183 targets. Would you trade today, even if you need him, Chuba Hubbard for Tyreek Hill. Yeah. Yeah. Have to, right? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:57:51 But boy, he's going to be good this game. Of course. That's the risky. And this isn't a personal thing. I was just thinking, which receiver who's got a chance to be amazing, which we know Tyreek can if Tua's back. And you know that no matter what happens with Jonathan Brooks, he's going to get work in a much different level than Miles Sanders

Starting point is 00:58:13 and take production away from Chuba Hubbard. Are we sure about that? That he's not going to take production away from Chuba Hubbard? That he's going to get much more work than Miles Sanders. If they activate him and don't do that, then why are they activating? Well, sure.

Starting point is 00:58:27 There's that, but Carolina doesn't have much going for themselves right now. So if, if they've got a player who's good and he's performing every week, how do they take him off the field? Anytime between now and week 17, he's not coming off the field, but he's going to lose work to Jonathan Brooks.

Starting point is 00:58:44 If he's active. So he'll be on the field while Jonathan Brooks is playing. He's not coming off the field, but he's going to lose work to Jonathan Brooks if he's active. So he'll be on the field while Jonathan Brooks is playing. He might. That would be cool. That's fair. That could happen. So like what, how many touches per game?

Starting point is 00:58:55 Let's say it's two weeks after Jonathan Brooks is back. Okay. So Brooks is in the swing of things kind of learning his role. How many touches per game for Chuba? I would say, what is he averaging now? 22? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:59:08 Would you go to 15? Yes. That's still a really good fantasy running back. Oh, he's not going to be terrible. And he'll still have a lot of high value touches because they're going to trust him

Starting point is 00:59:19 in those roles. In that role. Those roles. What the hell am I saying? I think Chuba's going to be good. All right, we're going to go through this game pretty quickly here. You ready? Dalton is a, you know, desperation option. Chuba is a must start. Uh, Dante Johnson is a must start. If he plays, what about Xavier league? It he's, he's in that, you know, borderline number three,

Starting point is 00:59:45 better off number four receiver range, know unfortunately touchdown dependent he had the one big game the first game after uh dalton started with 10 targets six catches six or i don't know that's first game dalton started the first game adam thielen got hurt yeah um 10 cat 10 targets six catches 66 yards in a touchdown then he hurts his shoulder comes back the next week scores a touchdown doesn't have a lot of targets. So is he going to be closer to that first performance? It's hard to say, but if Deontay Johnson's out, then he's close to a must-start receiver in three receiver leagues. And Ian wants to know, league it or JSN? JSN.

Starting point is 01:00:20 JSN. But if Deontay's out, what would your answer be? Then I'd probably move to league it. All right. I'd probably still go JSN, but it's closeay's out, what would your answer be? Then I'd probably move to Liget. All right. I'd probably still go JSN, but it's close. Team name Tuesday and Friday. Liget to Beaver. Nice.

Starting point is 01:00:32 Love it or Liget? Nice. Adam, I think you should just Liget alone. Okay. A Liget of their own. Dave, thank you. Jatavian Sanders, I said just keep an eye on him. He's 3% roster.

Starting point is 01:00:42 He's getting more involved. Stashable is a potential bi-week tight end down the line. Although, if you need him this week, this is a pretty good matchup to have a bi-week tight end. All right. Start Jaden Daniels. I'm in Denver. Let's talk about Terry McLaurin.

Starting point is 01:00:57 Not even to ask, right? Start him. Don't even need to ask. Okay. And let's talk about the running backs then. Dave, your thoughts on Brian Robinson and Austin Eckler it looks like Robinson's gonna play we've known him to be the lead back for Washington this is an amazing matchup for him fully expect him to see 15 plus touches

Starting point is 01:01:17 including a couple catches in there he's a top 15 ish type of fantasy running back and if the game script goes like I think it will, we'll see Eckler get a chance to put up maybe 10 PPR points. Okay. And yeah, Liget my ego from Rob. That doesn't work.

Starting point is 01:01:37 But Liget of Extraordinary Gentlemen. That was good. That does work. Good job to no thank you in the chat. And Zach Ertz, any interest in Zach Ertz? I mean, look, he's got 13 targets in his last That was good. Schultz to me is much better than Ertz at this point. Otten would be better than him if there is no Mike Evans at this point. Otherwise, I would start Ertz over Otten, and I would start Schultz over Ertz. I think Pitts is the only tight end to have a decent

Starting point is 01:02:13 game against Carolina this year. Alright, when we come back, we'll talk about the Giants-Eagles and the Rams and Raiders, and kind of a quirky note about the slate that we've talked about so far. All right, we'll be right back on FFT. So we've talked about Detroit, Minnesota, Houston, Green Bay,

Starting point is 01:02:32 Seattle, Atlanta, and Carolina, Washington. And in those four games, I don't think there's a single DST we like. Hmm. All the DSTs that we like are on Thursday's show, it seems. All right. With that said, let's go to Philadelphia at the Giants. The Commander's defense would be very interesting if no Deontay Johnson. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:02:59 Stat of the game number one. Good enough even then. Stat of the game number one. Saquon Barkley had 18 carries for 145 yards, two touchdowns and six catches for 35 yards and a touchdown at the Giants in week seven for 42 fantasy points. This is a looking into the future. Stat of the game.

Starting point is 01:03:19 Can you imagine if there's no Lawrence, what he's going to do? No. Oh man. Stat of the game. Number two. Jalen Hurts has completed only four passes of 20 or more air yards,

Starting point is 01:03:29 but three of them were to A.J. Brown, and Brown has played in two games. So if you're sitting there, you're like, what's wrong with Jalen Hurts? I can give you some stats, but I really think he's just going to be so much better with A.J. Brown. That being said, Eagles offense just has not looked great this year. That being said, Eagles offense just hasn't,

Starting point is 01:03:46 has not looked great this year. Even last week they were getting booed because it was all a lot of late production. They were getting booed. They were just terrible at home against the Browns. The Giants defense for some reason is really good lately. Good lately. So anyways, it's like a smash game for the Eagles.

Starting point is 01:03:59 Just huge games for Hertz, Barkley, Brown, Smith. I hope so. I really hope so. And look, Smith benefits because Goddard's most likely going to be out. So you know that there's always the potential upside for him.

Starting point is 01:04:12 A.J. Brown's just an easy start. There's no way around it. Barkley should be awesome. You know, this was the game you drafted Saquon Barkley for, right? You know, to face his former team. Well, one of them. Yeah. So there's a lot to love about all of this.

Starting point is 01:04:28 And the one question mark, and it's frustrating, is Jalen Hurts going to be awesome? Because he could still get his one touchdown to one of the receivers, and the other guy has a 7 for 80 type of game, and he's still awesome. And you're just being a little bit, you know, left with why didn't Jalen get more? And that's, I think where we've kind of been at

Starting point is 01:04:51 with him, right? Because we've seen these guys. It's almost like what we talk about Mahomes, right? Mahomes gets the one score and the receivers have been good sometimes. And we're just left with, okay, you know, they're getting what they need out of their quarterback, but we're not getting what we need for fantasy. So this should be one of those games, though, for Hertz. It just feels like there's a huge, huge game coming, and why

Starting point is 01:05:16 wouldn't it be against the Giants? I agree for the most part. The one thing that would have held me back is if the Giants' defense were healthy and the Eagles. I mean, there's no Jordan Mailato. We shouldn't overlook that. Yeah, that's the left tackle for Philadelphia.

Starting point is 01:05:31 And the offensive line has been okay for Philly this year. If they were healthy, I would be a little bit more nervous about everybody not named Saquon. There's a chance they won't have any of their big guys up front. We know there's no Thibodeau. Brian Burns hasn't practiced. Dexter Lawrence might not play. Wow. That could really make things a heck of a lot easier for Philly.

Starting point is 01:05:52 Oh, yeah. To do kind of like what Jamie laid out. Big catcher, too, for A.J. Brown. Moderate yardage and volume for Devontae. And then you see Saquon kind of take over. I think Saquon's taken over either way. But you know, we've talked about like,

Starting point is 01:06:07 like tank Dell has been the best kind of fringy wide receiver we've talked about. I'm would definitely start Devontae Smith over tank Dell. Would you? Yes. Okay, good. Cause so we're on the same page.

Starting point is 01:06:17 Like as long as Dallas got her is out, which looks like he will be, you're starting him. Would you start Devontae Smith over Tyreek Hill? Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. Imagine saying that.

Starting point is 01:06:28 All right, so the Eagles are pretty easy. But the Giants have the best pass rush, arguably, in the NFL. They lead the NFL in sacks, and the Eagles have given up a lot of pressure this year. So if anything derails them, it would be that. How much does that factor in the game Lane Johnson missed? I don't know. I just know that their pressure rate... Did that number spike

Starting point is 01:06:49 with that game? Probably not enough to make it where they're one of the worst in pressure rate allowed so far this year. If you want me to look it up, I'll look it up. Yeah, sure. It makes some sense. I mean, look, they've had often... Johnson's missed a game and a half, and left tackle's been an issue. New center. I mean, there's a lot of things that have changed for him. Yeah, and now they're not going to have their left tackle.

Starting point is 01:07:06 But the Giants, if you're wondering, how are they doing this defensively the last four games? Teams are averaging 24 minutes and 44 seconds of possession against the Giants in the last four weeks of the season, the most recent four weeks. That is the lowest mark against any team in the NFL. I don't know how they're doing it, but they're just keeping the ball and keeping it away from other teams. All right. On the giant side, don't start Daniel Jones. Yes. Start Malik neighbors. You guys are pretty high on Wanda Robinson, especially in PPR. He's like a borderline number two receiver and don't start Theo Johnson, but the giants running backs, Jamie, how do you see this playing out with Devin Singletary getting limited practices in? If Singletary plays, I would try to avoid both

Starting point is 01:07:50 flex options at best, just because I'd like to see how this all plays out. If there is no Singletary, then Tyrone Tracy is a top 20 running back. I mean, you know, he's been productive in the last two weeks. You saw him step up in the passing game last week, which was fun to see because of what his upside is as a former receiver. So knowing that there's going to be an offensive line issue for the giants, it's going to hurt the running backs running the ball without Andrew Thomas there. I do think that will lead to Daniel Jones dumping the ball off a little bit more. So the guys combined will hopefully be involved in the passing game. If there's only one being Tracy, then I think he's got a chance to, you know, be five plus catches. Giants should want to leave Devin Singletary on the bench, let him get healthy and let Tyrone

Starting point is 01:08:37 Tracy continue to show what he's doing because he's in two weeks, he's had over a hundred total yards in two very different ways. So I like what I've seen from Tracy. Wish he were a little bit more patient as a runner, but man, he's got some upside. Okay, without Lane Johnson, the Eagles have a 50% pass rush pressure rate allowed. One out of every two dropbacks, Jalen Hurts is feeling pressure. Wow. With him, it's 40%, which is still really high. Right.

Starting point is 01:09:04 But obviously, it's better. Yeah, but now they're not going to which is still really high. Right. But obviously, it's better. Yeah, but now they're not going to have Maialata. Right. So the last thing I'm going to look up is how have they done. It's going to be a tiny sample size, and the number might not be significant enough. Honestly, look, it doesn't really matter because you're starting all these guys anyway. Let's just see what happens. And we don't even know if Brian Burns and Dexter Lawrence are going to play.

Starting point is 01:09:20 Tyrone Tracy, by the way. Yeah, forget it. Oh, gosh. All so so hold on it's a i don't know how many plays this was but 60 percent pass rush pressure rate without mailata with lane johnson questions from the chat wandale or amari cooper wandale uh yeah i agree uh hn or neighbors holy single how are you sitting one of those guys oh my goodness single terrier naji harris Yeah, I agree. A-Chan or Neighbors? Neighbors. Singletary. How are you sitting one of those guys, though? My goodness. Singletary or Najee Harris?

Starting point is 01:09:50 I would go Najee. I'm not expecting Singletary to play. I think if Singletary plays, I think I'd still go Najee. Oh, for sure. But I don't like Najee this week. I don't like it. And guess what? Jamie has the Eagles 7th.

Starting point is 01:10:04 Eagles DST. Dave has him 14th. And Heath has him 7th as well. Ra don't like it. And guess what? Jamie has the Eagles seventh. Eagles DST. Dave has him 14th. And Heath has him seventh as well. Raiders at the Rams, our last game here. Stat of the game. The Rams have allowed 73 or more rushing yards to five running backs and six rushing touchdowns in five games. It's the Rams.

Starting point is 01:10:18 The Rams. Can I summarize this one? Yeah. Start all Kyron. Sit all Raiders and Rams. You're saying Bowers? Oh, no. Kyron Bowers? I would never sit Kyron Bowers. Kyron sit all Raiders and Rams you're saying Bowers oh no Kyron Bowers I would never say Kyron Bowers Kyron Bowers is awesome no but seriously Atwell and Whittington if cup does not play have been very reliable I mean sure low low double digit PPR fantasy points so yeah you can you can go to them but and you got to keep an eye on Whittington's injury, too. That changes things for everybody.

Starting point is 01:10:48 Imagine if there's no Cup or no Whittington, then Atwell's got a chance to hopefully be a safe number three receiver. And even Demarcus Robinson comes back into play, who's been very disappointing since the Cup Nakua injuries. Based on how he finished last year, he scored a touchdown in his last game. But the targets, the production, has just not been there consistently for him. And then Colby Parkinson becomes, you know, a borderline starter based on what we saw against the Packers. You know, he was heavily targeted in that game too. I think it was backwards, right?

Starting point is 01:11:15 Yeah. Um, and listen, if Zamir white doesn't play, you gotta at least consider Alexander Madison, right? Oh, he's, he's a definite flex option for you. And if you're stuck, a number two running back. His production has been somewhat fluky, how he's gotten it over the course of the season. But at least in the last two games without Zemir White, the touches have been there. The nice thing was last game, there was no Devontae Adams. There was no Jacoby Myers.

Starting point is 01:11:38 He had five catches. And I think that's something that you can sort of hang your hat on based on how Aiden O'Connell will play. So he's going to be involved in the passing game to whatever extent. So yes, he's got a chance to be very good in this matchup. How good? That depends on the team's course. How much will you lower Alexander Madison if Zemir White does play? A little bit, but I don't really think Zemir White is that much of a factor at this point.

Starting point is 01:11:59 He'll get carries, but Madison, I think, will still be involved in the passing game. So he'll drop a few spots, but it's not like it's a runaway from Madison just because Zemir White is there. I mean, just to present the possibility here, the first four games of the season, Madison had no more than, I think,

Starting point is 01:12:17 five carries in any game. So, I don't know that he actually took the job from Zemir White. It seemed like it was trending that way. But that was what the thought was before White had the groin injury midweek. It was the thought, but we didn't know it for sure. And Madison has been so unimpressive. What, 29 carries for like 80 yards or 70 yards or something like that

Starting point is 01:12:41 in his last two games. So I don't think he's – It was against Pittsburgh and who before that? Denver. No, tough, tough. Yeah, I mean, come on. No, I games. So I don't think he's against Pittsburgh and who before that Denver. No, tough, tough. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:12:46 I mean, come on. No, I'm just saying, like, I don't know that Madison, like we don't, Madison's not that good.

Starting point is 01:12:50 I can't say for sure that when Zemir white's back, that, that Madison's still the lead running back. Sure. All right. And that's it. And no interest in like Trey Tucker. It was frustrating that he didn't get any targets.

Starting point is 01:13:06 Yeah. That is frustrating. I agree. He had two targets last week, no catches. It's frustrating when my fantasy players score zero points. Yes. If Jacoby Myers plays, where are you ranking him? Flex range, PPR.

Starting point is 01:13:20 If Jacoby Myers plays, he would be in the, between like JSN and Christian Watson. Rams or Colts DST? Jordan wants to know. Rams. Rams or Vikings DST? I saw that. I think I have the Rams higher.

Starting point is 01:13:40 What did you say? Rams or who? Vikings. Rams. I want Jamie's t-shirt. What that tom and jerry oh that's a cool one i was watching uh my son was watching space jam for the first time the original and i was like you watch bluey but when we were growing up this is what i watched looney tunes like these are these are my my six-year-old is obsessed with both space jams like he will he

Starting point is 01:14:03 will watch it anytime it's on and he will will, hey, I want to watch Space Jam. Like, you've seen it 30 times. Like, why? I was enjoying it. I mean, I didn't really watch it. I only watched the first 10 minutes. The original or the new one? The original.

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