Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC); MIA-JAC Recap; Beat the Waiver Wire (09/25 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 25, 2020Gardner Minshew was a dud, but should we stick with him and the rest of the JAC passing game going forward? And how much confidence do we have in James Robinson and Myles Gaskin rest of season? We rev...iew last night's game and all of the key injuries you need to know about for Week 3 (9:35). We're revisiting the Rams RBs within the injury discussion ... Beat the Waiver Wire (17:15)! Should you pick up Alshon Jeffery even though his schedule is about to get tough? And let's give you some key Week 3 stats (20:15) and the Startometer (25:50) for SF-NYG, TEN-MIN and DET-ARI. Can you trust any Giants or 49ers RBs? ... Start or Sit for CHI-ATL (28:15), GB-NO (36:50), DAL-SEA (43:10), CIN-PHI (47:15), NYG-SF (53:50), TEN-MIN (59:40), DET-ARI (1:03:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Listen to the brand new Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-in-5/id1528634304 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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On his way to the end zone.
I'll tell you what, that was a spectacular play.
It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
What a play.
Off to the races.
Touchdown.
Oh, he's done it again.
Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben.
A blowout win by the Miami Dolphins
to start week three of your fantasy football season
and the NFL season.
How about that?
Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Jamie Eisenberg.
What'd you think of the game last night, Dave?
I loved watching James Robinson play well,
and it was fun watching Miles Gaskins play.
I wish they'd let him, you know, score a touchdown. That would be cool. And it's always fun watching Miles Gaskins play. I wish they'd let him score a touchdown.
That would be cool.
And it's always fun watching Ryan Fitzpatrick beat up on defenses,
but usually it's fun watching Gardner Minshew beat up on defenses,
and he didn't get that done.
He played terribly.
Heath is the mush.
Heath is the Minshew mush.
He was out on him for the first two weeks,
and then he's in on week three, and look what happens.
Oh, yeah, and he said, you know, the last time
remember what happened last time Gardner-Bidshew had the
national spotlight? And I was like, oh, the London
game? So just
keep him relatively anonymous
on local TV.
You know what, though?
You look back, and we're going to preview seven
NFC home games today. We got some good stats for you.
A lot of questions about guys like
CeeDee Lamb and the running backs in the Giants
49ers game and that kind of stuff will update you
on injuries. As far as this game, you look back
at it, though, when they
ruled out D.J. Chark, did you move
Minshew down? Is
that a regret maybe that you guys have?
That's a regret for me. I should
have done it. I didn't care.
I was excited about LaVisca.
I was excited about Keelan Cole.
And I thought Chris Conley had like reliable hands.
I guess not.
He had two very bad drops in the game that would have helped the Jaguars at least put
up some yards, helped Gardner Minshew out a little bit.
Frustrating.
Frustrating game for the Jacksonville pass game.
I want to play a new game called Did You Notice the Moment When?
Did you notice the moment when
Jay Gruden and Gardner Minshew
were on the bench in the fourth quarter
laughing at all of us
for having faith in their offense?
Did you notice that?
I did.
I was like, what the hell?
Oh, they're laughing at us.
I don't think they were laughing at us,
but they should not have been laughing.
Yeah, it was not a good timing.
But you know what?
You got to keep a positive attitude, right?
Yeah, I mean, look, it's a job.
We all screw up at our jobs.
Certainly we do.
You know, and it's okay to have fun,
but it's just, you know,
you get caught on TV when you're playing miserably.
It doesn't look, it's not a good look.
Awkward tweet of the day.
So I wrote last night on Twitter just before the game.
Okay, I'm going with a bold prediction because why not?
Let's have some fun.
Dolphins are going to kick the crap out of the Jaguars tonight,
win by at least 17.
All right, so I got it right.
But Nick Riley responded,
oof, I bet my right testicle that won't happen.
So apologies.
Send him your address.
Sorry about that, man.
Don't go against my bold predictions.
I just put another one up, by the way.
And he's down to one.
Uh-oh.
Another bold prediction out there on Twitter.
Here it is.
Jets lose this week.
Jets get crushed next Thursday.
Adam Gase is fired on Friday, next Friday.
Wow.
Bold prediction.
I'm sure a lot of Jets fans would be happy about that.
They would probably give their right testicle for that to come true.
The latter part they would be happy about, not the losses.
Okay, Miami 31, Jacksonville 13.
So this was domination.
Second half was kind of annoying for the Dolphins.
They didn't really get much done other than that fumble recovery,
which led to a touchdown.
Jordan Howard has three touchdowns this year.
They have totaled four yards.
But we'll start with the running backs.
He has more touchdowns than he has yards per carry.
Well, that makes sense because he's nowhere near three.
We start with the running backs.
He doesn't even have one yard per carry.
Yeah, he's Kalen Balazs-ing his way through the season.
Yeah, he's doing a better job than Kalen.
Kalen didn't get a lot of touchdowns, did he?
No.
Yeah.
So Robinson was terrific.
He's 17 touches, six catches, led all players in receiving.
Six catches for 83 yards.
He was off the field a lot down the stretch with Chris Thompson,
getting a lot of also having five catches,
but still you like what you got from Robinson.
Gaskin is only rostered in 62% of leagues,
Dave and Jamie.
And I talked about this on fantasy football today in five,
but you do have confidence in one of these guys going forward.
Both of these guys going forward in terms of Gaskin and Robinson.
I'm there with Robinson.
He looks good.
And the fact that he's catching multiple passes per game
is just icing on the cake.
He's really, really been impressive.
Physical, good vision.
I don't think you're going to see a lot of,
you know, breakaway plays from him.
I don't think he's got the speed for it,
but he's got this great opportunity.
And despite what you saw on Thursday, I think the offensive line in Jacksonville has been
playing better than expected. So it's all systems go here for Robinson as a startable fantasy
running back. Gaskin, you know what you're getting with him. A lot of catches. I think
that's helpful. And good carries between the 20s. Just once they get close to the goal line, they're like, hey, Jordan, wake up.
You're in.
And he has to go in and score a touchdown.
And those are points lost for Myles Gaskin.
There's going to be bye week soon.
He's going to register as a number two running back during those bye weeks.
You wonder what kind of numbers Devante Parker could have put up if Fitzpatrick had thrown
more than 20 passes.
He completed 18 of them.
Parker had five catches for 69 yards.
He caught all of his targets, and he was a little hobbled out there.
Gasicki luckily got the touchdown.
But, Jamie, before we move on from this game, let's talk about the Jaguars
and just basically are you still in on them?
They have Cincinnati next week.
They're in this stretch with a good schedule here and they had a bad night.
But, you know,
should we hang on to Gardner-Minchu?
Should we hang on to LaVisca Chenault,
who's rostered in 69% of leagues?
Or Keelan Cole, who once again
led all non-James Robinsons
in receiving with 43 yards?
All of the non-James Robinson
and DJ chart guys
are going to be in and out
of your lineup,
in and out of your roster for the next several weeks, because you're going to look at what
your team has and needs and then make a decision on if you want to hold on to them.
I mean, I don't think Keelan Cole is a must play.
I don't think LaVisca Chenault is a must play yet.
I'd like to hold on to him more than Cole because, you know, there's there's a lot to
like about what he can be.
But this is what rookie receivers do. You know, they sort of struggle their way through the early part of the
season until they start to understand things. And so I didn't think the Jaguars did a good enough
job of trying to put the ball in his hands because, you know, he could have done some
more bubble screens. He could have done some more things with him out of the backfield.
And that's what we were kind of hoping to see. The fact that he, he didn't have more target
opportunity and he was off the field for stretches.
I mean, they were going with Cole Westbrook and Conley and it was a little frustrating,
especially down the end of the game. So I don't I don't think he's going to be somebody that you
can trust as a starting fantasy option if he's not going to do this when Chark is out, because
when Chark is there, he's clearly the the alpha of this receiving core. And who knows how long
he's been playing with this chest injury? You know, if it happened last week or was it something that's been bothering him
because he hasn't played well yet.
So he's a buy low candidate.
If somebody's willing to part with him,
I wouldn't be surprised if some 10 team leagues, if he's dropped,
I would pick up Chark if he's out there.
But Minshew, the matchups are great.
He'll play better.
This was just a bad night for him and a bad night for the Jaguars passing.
I do want to point out that catch that Chenault had over the middle where he
was in triple coverage and then broke away for extra yard.
It was stupid throw.
It was a terrible throw,
but a great catch and just unbelievably wily after the play.
Just the,
yeah,
he tried it again later in the game and he should have had interception.
Yeah,
that's true.
But the one he had earlier on in the game was really impressive.
So it's great to see Chenault making those contested catches
and picking up low throws.
You're right, James.
They should have used him a little bit more.
All right, so that's it for that Thursday night football game.
Music, Dave?
Do we do music?
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Yeah.
Miami 31, Jacksonville 13.
I'd like to say, I'd like to apologize
for what I said about Adam Gase.
Shouldn't root for people to get fired.
I feel bad about that.
Even though he's like a billionaire.
Millionaire.
But that's not cool.
I'm sorry.
All right.
Got a few things to promote.
First of all,
you're getting a lot of fantasy cop,
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We're going to read them on our mailbag, which will air on
Saturday, but that's going to be Frank
Stamfel and myself
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and doing some police work
on the mailbag show, which we
record on Friday and airs on Saturday.
So make sure you tune in for that. We've got a lot
of those coming in. I just didn't really have any time
on Wednesday to get to them.
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News and notes.
Oh, man, a lot of wide receiver injuries.
Devontae Adams really might not play.
Julio Jones, Michael Thomas.
Michael Thomas, we're not expecting to play.
Julio's questionable.
Juju Smith-Schuster hasn't been practicing.
Josh Jacobs and Darren Waller have not been practicing.
Juju's good, though.
He posted on his Instagram account,
play me in fantasy or pick me in fantasy.
Yeah.
I'll be out there.
Okay, good.
But we don't know about Adams or Julio,
and Adams is Sunday night.
And how are we feeling about Jacobs and Waller?
They did not practice on Thursday.
I'm nervous.
I think both of them could practice on Friday
and still be good to go for the game.
I'm kind of nervous about the matchup for Waller anyway.
I just figured that he'll be the target
that the Patriots will try and take
away when it's third
down, when they're passing, when they're trailing.
I'm not expecting a big
game from Darren Waller this week.
It is interesting. We know how good the Patriots can be
at taking number one options away. He is
the only threat in
the passing game right now.
He's banged up too.
Right. I picked up is the only threat in the passing game right now. Well, I was banged up too.
Right.
Yeah.
I mean, so, and then like, should we pick,
I picked up Devante Booker.
I dropped Paris Campbell as a Josh Jacobs manager.
I don't think that's a bad move at all.
Is that the guy you'd get between him and Richard?
I think they're going to be, it's going to be a mess.
Yeah.
I don't think you're getting a starting option out of it,
but Booker was probably the one who's going to get the most carries.
But yeah, I wouldn't have a lot of confidence in either one.
I think Rashard has one game in his career with more than 10 carries.
They've just never, ever shown a willingness to turn him loose.
Like last year, they went to DeAndre Washington.
So that's why I went with Booker.
But yeah, I'm not going to start him but I just felt like as the
Jacobs owner made sense to roster him
MVS by the way is only
rostered in like 42%
of leagues or something
so not a bad idea to have him if you have
Devontae Adams
let's see Kenny Galladay was limited
we're expecting him to play at Arizona
Zach Moss mispractice.
So if Moss is declared out,
how high do you think Devin Singletary would rise in your rankings?
It'd be a low end number two running back.
I think you can count on for right around 15 touches.
The, the, the bills haven't been using their running backs much.
They they're in the bottom five and running back rush attempts on the season.
Jamie, what did you say?
I'm sorry, I didn't hear you.
I'd say it'd be right around,
you know, 20, top 20.
You know, just with the,
once you get past, like,
the top 15 or 16 guys,
it's not exactly pretty.
So he's, he definitely gets a boost.
You know, you can't overlook
that the guy who's been
taking him off the field
in spots is not there.
I don't think TJ Yeldon
comes in for those opportunities.
So I would be much more happy about Devin Singletary's role.
I bet you'd see Yeldon working like third downs
and Singletary working the rest.
I feel like, you know,
I can't think there's a waiver wire guy
I'd want to start over Singletary.
Would you?
I'd start Kelly over him.
You know, if he still falls in that category, I'd start Singletary
over Mike Davis, though, if you're just looking at it.
Now Daryl Henderson loses because Malcolm Brown
is practicing in full.
So I would start Singletary over Henderson.
I might take Davis over Singletary in full PPR.
I would, actually.
Yeah, we already talked about the Rams game
yesterday, but I think we should discuss
this running back situation more because
Malcolm Brown's going to play, it seems. Cam
Akers, we're thinking no, right?
At this point, yes.
But they are, only the
Chargers have had more rush attempts than the
Rams, and I do
think it would be a smart strategy against the Bills
to try to run the ball.
It seems like they're worse against
the run than they are against the pass, the Bills.
So, I don't know.
I have Henderson in so many leagues, and I still want to start him.
Do you?
I take him over Brown.
You're looking at a guy coming off a finger surgery this week.
So is he just the backup and comes in when needed, or is he actually going to play?
So that's the question you have to ask yourself,
and we won't get that answer probably until the game unfolds.
I know what you're saying about the bills being,
you know,
susceptible against the run.
Well,
more susceptible than the past.
I don't want to make it sound like they have a bad run defense.
No,
but I mean,
to your point,
you know,
they played a game and a half essentially without two of their best
defensive players.
So,
you know,
we'll see how having those guys back changes things.
It's not like teams ran on them with those guys out.
You know what I mean? They play the dolphins and the jets. Yeah. The like teams ran on them with those guys out. They played the Dolphins and the Jets.
Yeah, the thing with the Bills is we don't know about their run defense
because since last year ended, Jordan Phillips went to the Cardinals
and Star Lotilele, I don't know if I'm pronouncing that right, opted out.
Close enough.
So I would like to see what they do against the run this year.
I think the Rams will certainly test them.
I'll tell you who's going to get tested against the run.
The Bengals.
Geno Atkins and Mike Daniels mispractice.
Miles Sanders.
Yeah, they've been out all year.
Yeah, and they've been terrible all year.
So, Miles Sanders is going to have 400 fantasy points.
I don't know about 400 yards, but 400 fantasy points.
That's a lot of touchdowns.
Desmond Trufant returned to practice for Detroit.
Jameson Crowder and Brashad Perryman won't
play. Unfortunately
for the Rams, Joe Noteboom, their
left guard, is on IR.
Denzel Ward was limited with a groin
injury for the
game against Washington.
John Brown was limited in practice for Buffalo.
We expect him. Sammy Watkins is
in the concussion protocol.
Does that make any difference for you with that Chiefs-Ravens game
if Watkins doesn't play?
I mean, we'll see.
You know, the fact that it's Monday gives him an extra day.
So hopefully he'll be out there.
You're not playing him, but it helps him home.
No.
Right.
James White has not practiced.
Really would love to see him get out there.
And Jamie made a good point.
They probably would want to get him in the end zone if he does play.
Carolina offensive coordinator Joe Brady
says he wants to get Curtis Samuel more involved.
Do you care?
A little bit.
I care a lot.
I'm stuck.
I have to play him this week in one league,
three receivers and a flex,
and I lost McCaffrey and some other players, DJ Chark.
So I was like, like okay I'll see what
happens you know I figure he'll have three to five carries and probably you know another uptick in
targets as well you're going to try and stay away from Casey Hayward and Chris Harris as much as you
can and so I doubt that those guys are going to be anywhere near him even though King is a really
good defensive back as well I I remember when they drafted Curtis Samuel, it was the same year they drafted McCaffrey
and he was, he came out of Ohio state, kind of like in the same mold as McCaffrey, where he was
a Swiss army knife type of player who could run the ball and catch the ball. And we know that he's
not a good deep ball threat at wide receiver. So maybe they're going to try and get them a couple
of carries and use them in the passing game. You know what this passing game is for Carolina.
Anyway, they're just, you know,
trying to give you death by paper cuts with a bunch of five and eight yard
tosses.
And Samuel can do that right now.
Samuel is reminding me of Devante Parker.
It looks like every report was so optimistic about Devante Parker and he
just never,
ever produced until he finally did.
Maybe Curtis Samuel will be kind of a late bloomer.
I hope.
Jack Doyle.
He's still not in a great situation for that to happen.
Yeah.
I'm not even thinking this year.
I'm just saying like maybe at some point.
I don't know.
Maybe in the XFL.
Yeah.
No.
Jack Doyle returned to practice.
I don't know if he's going to play,
but if he does play, would you start Jack Doyle?
No.
No, but you can't use Molly Cox then.
Right.
Alshon Jeffrey returned to practice.
He's rostered in 15% of leagues.
He's not going to play this week,
but he might play next week at San Francisco.
And Christian Kirk missed practice for Arizona.
All right, let's do some beat the waiver wire.
Well, Alshon Jeffrey is definitely one of them.
Yep.
But my question with Jeffries is like,
he's at San Francisco next week,
which really might not be a bad matchup with all their injuries.
But then he's got Baltimore.
He's got Pittsburgh and Baltimore in weeks five and six.
So are the Eagles wide receivers really worth stashing in that case?
Well, I mean, if you have the ability to hold on to him long term then yes if you have to
you know play him anytime soon then no uh denver dst is at the jets on thursday
like them 21 percent rostered uh i wonder if there's an opportunity for royce freeman
to be a desperation running back in week four because he's going up against the Jets. Well, I mean, Lindsey could be back by then.
He could be,
but they probably can win that one without him
and they can just let Freeman handle that role.
I'm not going to lie.
I didn't really find a lot of great names
for beat the waiver wire,
but I do think Traquan Smith at Detroit next week,
if Michael Thomas is still out,
and MVS against Atlanta on Monday Night Football.
I just don't understand why he's not rostered
in more leagues to begin with.
I think people think he sucks
because he drops a lot of balls, and he might,
but he's getting targets.
He's getting opportunities, and I don't know.
But you know what happens in Green Bay
if you just drop too many passes.
You stop getting targets.
Well, not if Adam isn't there.
No, Rodgers will still not fire away at you
if he thinks you're going to drop the football.
I mean, I guess so, but at the same time,
he'd been raving, like, he was kind of high on MVS last year
and then again this year.
So, I don't know, it just seems like there's some potential there.
Just hang on.
They want him to be a thing.
I mean, they don't really have a lot of help.
You know, ESB is on IR.
They don't really have a lot of depth of the position, you know, so they need him.
If both Lazard and MVS were sitting on your waiver wire, who would you pick up?
Lazard.
Lazard is the safer of the two.
The higher ceiling is obviously MVvs is what he showed you
in week one and the targets are there for him too he has more targets than lazard there's one more
player that uh might get dropped this week and he's rostered in 55 of leagues and we don't expect
him to be good well we don't expect him to have a huge game against seattle but dalton schultz
so he's 55 rostered as i as I mentioned, and maybe that just means
that everyone who needed a tight end
picked up someone this week, and
nobody needs a tight end anymore. But
Schultz has Cleveland next week.
They've been horrible against tight ends.
Then the Giants and the Cardinals, who thus
far have been very good against tight ends, but
last year they were terrible. And then
Washington and Philadelphia, who have been
among the worst against tight ends.
It's possible Dalton Schultz is about to have
five games of good matchups
after this week against Seattle.
That's a great one.
Okay.
All right, getting into the games a little bit here.
Here are some of my favorite stats
for today's NFC home games.
I want to know what you guys think.
Let's talk about the Atlanta wide receivers.
Obviously, if Julio doesn't play,
it makes Gage better.
Facing Chicago, a
slot wide receiver has
been the leading receiver against Chicago
in both weeks one and two.
Danny Amendola had 81 yards,
and Golden Tate only had 47, but he caught
all five of his targets. Does that give you any more confidence
in Russell Gage?
That's a matchup beater right there
because it's buster screen in the slot for
Chicago and he just hasn't been good
for a long time and Gage has been getting
nine plus targets per game.
I would be stunned if he didn't
have that many targets this week in Chicago
and I think he can do well with them whether or not
Julio Jones plays.
Julio may be a decoy.
So he may be out there,
but not getting his usual share of targets.
How about the Dallas wide receivers?
Getting so many CD Lamb, Michael Gallup questions.
Seattle has been so bad against receivers so far.
All three Falcons receivers had more than 110 yards,
and three Patriots receivers had more than 70 yards.
Edelman at 179.
Demir Bird and Nikhil Harry
had more than 70 yards.
I mean, that's just incredible.
They give up the most receptions
in receiving yards to the position,
and it's not close.
The only thing is they've only given up
two touchdowns to receivers.
But the catches and yards,
it's like so far away.
I think it's like 11 more catches
as a team than anybody else
and like 200 yards more
than anybody else. They bend, but they don't break
and they can't get pressure on the quarterback.
So it totally makes sense why
this is happening. And I think it's going to keep happening.
So what do you think about Lamb and
Gallup this week?
Gallup is the only one that I'd be a little concerned about
just from the standpoint of without Tyron
Smith in there, they haven't given Dak enough
time to throw downfield. And so this is one of those they haven't given Dak enough time to throw downfield.
And so this is one of those matchups that he should have time to throw downfield.
So he's certainly in play as a number three receiver,
but I think he's third behind the other two.
I mean, Cooper and Lamb are just playing fantastic,
certainly what they did last week.
So it's a very similar matchup for them.
Atlanta is another team that doesn't get a lot of pressure
on the quarterback.
And, you know, you got a lot of time for Dak to,
or you had more time for Dak to look at those guys and he went for 450.
I love Lamb this week I think he's the number two receiver and for fantasy I'm saying not just for
the Cowboys and I I wonder if if you're struggling with receivers if you could try and make a trade
for Lamb now because I could see a scenario where he ends up being the number one receiver for the
Cowboys this season.
Wow.
He's impressive.
I love him.
Yeah, he looks great.
Yeah, I love Lamb too.
He's ready for this.
Like a Lamb Euro is like so good.
I don't have Lamb that much, but it is like just a killer meat.
For sure.
You don't eat meat, I make Lamb.
What's that from? What was lamb. What's that from?
What was that from?
Big Fat Greek Wedding.
You don't eat no meat, I make lamb.
There's a hole in this cake.
It's a bone.
I don't know.
I've seen that movie once and I remember the Windex.
All right, Drew Sample.
Let's talk about Drew Sample.
The Eagles gave up a touchdown to Logan Thomas,
and they gave up three touchdowns to Tyler Higbee.
Are you starting Drew Sample?
Tight end premium, yes.
Deep leagues where you lost George Kittle
or may not have George Kittle,
or you were starting Jack Doyle, yes.
I mean, what about just regular old PPR leagues, Jim?
Well, I just don't know how many
people are going to say i'm starting drew sample over tyler higby or hayden hurst you know i don't
think people are there yet but uh there's two tight ends that are very interesting and you
mentioned their names just now because logan thomas is facing a browns team that's terrible
against tight ends and he's getting a lot of targets and uh joe burrow through two games has
thrown 21 times to his tight ends and you saw what uzama and sample did thursday night against the
browns so there's a lot to like about what drew samples role could be but it also was all those
tight end those tight ends getting those targets in week two joe burrow through 61 times yeah you
know so if he goes from 61 to 41 which is probably more realistic especially if they're able to run the ball then they're all not going to be as successful because AJ Green's going to
still get his and then Tyler Boyd's going to get his and the trickle down effect so I think Drew
Sample's a good by uh injury replacement deep league type of guy certainly tight end premium
situation if he's still available in the Scott Fishbow. Go get him. But across the board start, no.
DFS, yes.
If George Kittle's out,
would you start Jordan Reed against the Giants
or Drew Sample against Philadelphia?
Still Jordan Reed.
Yep.
Still Jordan Reed.
I agree with that 100%
because I would assume that he would get plenty of targets himself.
But put it this way.
If you have at at this point,
and you're still holding out hope for Rob Gronkowski and Austin Hooper,
Drew Sample is in a better spot.
All right.
Last stat here that I wanted to give.
The Detroit Lions are allowing an NFL high 6.92 yards per carry to running backs.
They've been bad against David Montgomery.
Terrible against Aaron Jones.
So let this be the week that Kenyon Drake,
not like he's been bad, but let him have a big week.
That'd be wonderful.
An explosive three-touchdown type week.
Yeah, hopefully all receiving touchdowns.
I bet one of them will be.
All right, let's do the Stardome-eter here.
The last three games we're going to get to in Starter Sit
is Giants-San Francisco,
which is kind of an oddly interesting fantasy game.
I agree. I need a Giants win. I do, which is kind of an oddly interesting fantasy game. I agree.
There's so many question marks.
I need a Giants win.
I do too.
Yep.
I don't.
Titans-Vikings and Cardinals-Lions.
So, start-o-meter for any running back in the Giants-San Francisco game?
Six and a half.
For who?
McKinnon in PPR Wilson and non PPR.
Yeah.
I would say I'd rank them in PPR.
I would go McKinnon,
Lewis,
Wilson,
Freeman.
Okay.
Wow.
Not even Wayne Gallman.
I mean,
he might be an actor for all we know.
So who knows?
Yeah.
I spent guys ahead of the giants guys. Niners guys ahead of the Giants guys.
Niners guys ahead of the Giants guys.
Golden Tate, start-o-meter.
I like what he's done whenever Sterling Shepard has been out.
I mean, I think I said this to you yesterday at some point, Adam.
17.5 PPR points over the five games that he was missing last year.
Four of those, I think it was eight or more targets.
And so, you know, different coaching staff,
so take that into account.
But his play was elevated last year
when Shepard wasn't there.
So there's an opportunity for Tate to be successful.
Seven.
Okay, yeah, it was 80,
and it was 80 or more yards
in four of the five games without Shepard.
Darius Slayton against San Francisco.
Eight.
Seven.
Jordan Reed at the Giants.
This is assuming Kittle's out.
Assuming Kittle's out, seven.
Six.
Ryan Tannehill at Minnesota.
Eleventy.
Corey Davis at Minnesota.
Six.
Jonu Smith at Minnesota. Nine. Seven, who Smith at Minnesota.
It's nine.
It's a seven.
Jamie.
Yep.
Adam feeling against Tennessee.
10.
Eight.
Matthew Stafford at Arizona.
Seven.
They play seven.
Any Detroit running back at Arizona.
Swiss would be a four.
I'll say Swift is a four in PPR.
I'll say Swift is a six in PPR.
If you were just desperate and had crappy running backs, Swift or Deion Lewis?
Swift.
Deion.
But I'd rather have Swift on my roster, so if that's the decision, then I'd rather just play Swift.
Kenny Galladay at Arizona?
Eight.
Nine.
Marvin Jones? Five. Nine. Marvin Jones?
Five. TJ Hawkinson?
Seven and a half.
Seven and a half, you said?
And five for Jamie, for Hawkinson.
All right. More on those games
a little bit later. We'll break it down in more depth
in more detail.
Chicago's at Atlanta. That's our first game.
Here's your stat of the game.
Looking at just two players here, Cohen and Allen Robinson. You know, I sort of picked an arbitrary
number, but there were only four games last year in which the Bears gave up 24 or more points.
And the Falcons have been terrific offensively. So if you think they're going to score 24 or more
points, Tariq Cohen had six or more catches in three of those four games
in which they gave up four or more points.
And Allen Robinson, in three of those four games,
he scored 21 or more PPR fantasy points.
So bottom line, what I'm saying is if the Falcons score a lot,
it sets up well for Tariq Cohen and Allen Robinson.
Do you guys see it that way, and are you starting them?
And Robinson, I'm sure, is an easier call than Cohen. but yeah, you get what I'm saying. What are you thinking
about these two guys? At some point, Robinson's going to have a breakout game could easily happen
this week based on the matchup. So he should be locked into your lineups without question.
And is a good DFS play as well, because I don't think a lot of people are going to play him.
If you're looking for Cohen, you know, we, we know that you're down McCaffrey, you're down
Barkley, you're scrambling.
And he was probably a guy that's sitting on your bench.
He's clearly not going to be good in non PPR leagues.
As long as David Montgomery,
the fact that Montgomery has got six targets through two weeks shows you that
they're at least involving him in the passing game enough that that's hurting
Cohen. But, you know, if they are in this catch up mode,
it didn't work out well for Cohen in week one against Detroit.
Hopefully it does work out better for him this week.
So he's a flex.
I mean, I don't think you should get overly excited about Tariq Cohen
because he's been a disappointment now basically for 18 games.
You know, last year he was frustrating, and now this year he's frustrating.
He was really good in 2018, but that just hasn't carried over
to the last, you know, year plus.
And yet they gave him a contract extension.
Well, he's good for their team.
I guess.
I mean, they're giving twice as many targets to Montgomery
than they are to Cohen so far through two games this year.
Cordell Patterson has as many targets as Cohen has this year.
So I don't get the usage.
I wish they'd give him the ball more, but we can't control that.
They seem to love Montgomery, and Montgomery does look good.
I'd rather start Deion Lewis than Tariq Cohen this week.
Agreed.
Are there any typical must-start quarterbacks
that you'd start Trubisky over, like Breeze or Rodgers
if Adams is out or Watson?
Breeze, yes, if Thomas is out.
And he's close with Watson.
Okay. Not me. I'll take Breeze, yes, if Thomas is out. And he's close with Watson. Okay.
Not me.
I'll take Breeze.
All right.
He's 22nd for Jamie, 23rd for Dave, 23rd for Heath,
something like that.
That may have changed since I did these notes,
but close to that.
The Bears running backs, we just talked about Tariq Cohen.
How much do you like David Montgomery this week?
How would you compare him to Josh Kelly, to Mike Davis,
Daryl Henderson, et cetera?
I like him. I think he can score we've seen the Falcons already give up six short yardage touchdowns through two games five
of them on the ground Montgomery had a touchdown catch last week that was I mean three of those
were back I know but still I mean they're giving up touchdowns in short yardage whether it's the
quarterback or a running back or whatever but I I feel like Montgomery is in a great spot to find the end zone at least once.
He caught a touchdown on a weird weaving play last week that you shouldn't count on.
But the week before, he had an inside the 10 target that should have gone for a touchdown.
It got knocked down at the line of scrimmage because Trubisky doesn't have good accuracy.
And I feel like Montgomery's set for at least 15 touches that's at a minimum
I'm sure the Bears are going to want to try and get him going to keep the Falcons offense off the
field and he's got twice as many targets as Tariq Cohen so the usage is good the opportunity to
score is good I think he's a number two running back this week for sure he's got he's got top 10
upside you know so yes you should start him over those other guys. Okay, over the waiver wire guys.
All right.
How about Kareem Hunt or David Montgomery?
Montgomery.
Montgomery and non-PPR.
Wow.
All right.
All right.
So, Allen Robinson's a must start.
Any interest in Anthony Miller?
He's kind of like the Jaguars guys.
He's going to be somebody that's going to be in and out of your roster.
This is an interesting game because if they're chasing points his usage should be up but if
they're playing with the lead as we saw last week he's probably not going to do very much
it's just weird how they're using him you know you you expect him to be more involved both him
and cohen they're very very very strange players because they're good they're talented they should
have more opportunities but the bears aren't doing it all right as far as robinson goes just last
stat on him he's gotten nine targets in two games,
both games, and there have been four
wide receivers already with eight or nine targets
against the Falcons, and all of them had 92
or more yards.
It really needs to be a
good game for Allen Robinson. There are no excuses
here. Jimmy Graham
is outside the top 20.
It's a good matchup, but
you can't trust him.
Yeah.
Matt Ryan.
Okay, Matt Ryan.
So he's top eight.
He's like 6'7", 8' for you guys, basically.
And, you know, I feel like most times last year in tough matchups,
he was like, okay, not great.
Are you expecting better than that? Are
you expecting a good game from Matt Ryan? Yes. I mean, as long as Julio's out there,
but even without Julio, he would still be a top 12 guy. You know, it's hard to overlook the volume
that he's going to get. And, you know, still having Calvin Ridley, Russell Gage, and Hayden
Hurst is not a bad fallback option if you lose your top guy, because most of the quarterbacks,
like we saw with Drew Brees, you know, he so I think if you uh if you're counting on him to have the same level of volume
even if Julio doesn't play which I would I would still trust Matt Ryan as a starter
I would too I just I don't think I can commit to him still being a top 12 quarterback he might be
just outside of that if he does not have Julio well I would take him over Brees and Rogers without
question if those guys are down there,
two top guys.
I'm with you on both of those.
But for now, yeah, I guess he'd probably
still make the top 12
because I'd have to move Rogers down too.
So he might be 12th for me
if there's no Julio and no Devontae Adams
and no Michael Thomas.
And that would mean behind like Ryan Tannehill?
Yep.
It's funny how Tannehill would be, not for me,
Tannehill wouldn't be better without his top guy than
Matt Ryan without his top guy, given the weapons and the amount of
volume that you know what you're going to get from Matt Ryan.
Vikings defense is atrocious.
It's so bad.
We'll talk about it. It's so bad.
Todd Gurley or David Montgomery?
Montgomery. Todd Gurley or
Tariq Cohen in PPR?
Still Gurley. Gurley.
I kind of have Gurley as a sit.
He's outside of my top 24 in PPR for sure.
If he doesn't score, he's going to be an eyesore.
If Julio Jones plays, would you start Russell Gage or Todd Gurley?
Gage.
Gage in PPR or Gurley in PPR?
Gage either way.
Okay.
All right.
And then we talked about the wide receivers,
and then Hayden Hurst is like a low-end number one starter.
And is that because of the matchup?
I'd like him more if Julio didn't play,
because then I think his target volume would go up.
And the matchup isn't terrible.
I mean, we saw Evan Ingram have a better game in week two than he did in week one.
And we saw TJ Hawkinson score on the bears.
And he plays a lot of slots,
you know,
so your,
your slots that kind of part of him too,
right?
That would be incredible.
If they ended up using buster screen on Hayden Hearst,
Hearst would have a monster day.
So Hayden Hearst or Dallas Goddard,
Goddard,
PPR,
Hurston,
non Hayden Hearst, or I'llard? Goddard, not EPR. Hurst and non. Hayden Hurst or...
I'll say Tyler Higbee
since it looks like those Bills linebackers
are trending in the right direction.
Hurst.
I'll go Higbee, but if Julio's out...
Higbee for now.
Hurst if Julio is out.
Okay.
Bears DST, not a great option this week,
but still top 12 for Dave and Jamie
and 13th for Heath.
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ucc.ON.CA Green Bay is at New Orleans.
Stat of the game number one.
I think this is actually my only stat of the game.
Stat of the game.
These are the only two teams that have allowed just one sack so far this season.
So that's cool.
Hopefully these quarterbacks have a lot of time to throw.
And Drew Brees can, you know, throw the ball all the way five yards downfield.
Oh, he'll get you 10 or 12 yards.
All right. it's downfield. Oh, he'll get you 10 or 12 yards.
All right.
So, look, ordinarily,
Green Bay at New Orleans,
primetime home game would be a primetime home game in New Orleans.
I mean, this, you would hope,
would be a showcase game
for these two incredible quarterbacks,
high-scoring bonanza.
What do you think about this game?
Is it going to be that way?
Not if you don't have Michael Thomas and Devante Adams.
It's hard to trust it.
You know, these defenses don't get the credit they deserve.
They're very good defenses.
The pass rush is going to be tough on both of these quarterbacks.
You believe that about the Packers, that they have a very good defense?
Yes.
They don't have a good run defense, but they have a good defense.
They have a good pass defense.
So, yes.
You know, I mean, it's going to be, look,
Traquan Smith and Emmanuel Sanders
are the shell of Emmanuel Sanders at this point.
And as you just alluded to,
it's going to be Alvin Kamara here, Alvin Kamara there,
Alvin Kamara here, Alvin Kamara there.
Okay, we'll take a seven-yard throw to Jared Cook,
and look, we threw the ball down the field.
It's not going to be pretty for Drew Brees
if Thomas isn't there against this team
because those guys are going to put pressure on him.
And, you know, I don't want to trust him,
even though he's usually great in these spots.
And then for Rodgers, he was fantastic last year
without Devontae Adams.
And Aaron Jones played a bigger role.
I would feel much more comfortable with him
without Adams because I've seen it
and him play successfully.
Plus, he's just on fire right now.
So I would downgrade Rogers if he doesn't have Adams,
but I'd still feel okay starting him. It's like the Matt Ryan thing,
even though Matt Ryan's weapons without his top guy are better,
but that's a good defense for new Orleans. I know that, you know,
Derek Carr picked them apart, but they just couldn't cover Darren Waller.
The Packers don't have that type of player.
How dare you talk that way
about Robert Tanyan?
Well, look, if you're still going to start Aaron
Rodgers if Devontae Adams doesn't play,
then you've got
to be pretty high on at least one of their wide
receivers, right?
Sure. I think
they're number three guys. They're not a must-start
play.
It could be Lattimore on Lazard, and that would be bad for Lazard.
But they move him around so much that maybe he could end up just getting decent volume.
And I still have trust issues with Valdez-Scantling, even if there is no Devonta Adams.
Stretching the field is great, but you got to be able to hold on to the football.
So we probably need to do a little bit more research on who else would play.
It could be Equinemius St.
Brown.
He had a pretty decent camp.
Oh,
he is on IR.
He couldn't be there.
So who,
who would be the new receiver that would step in?
But obviously MVS and Lazard are going to be the two most,
you'd have to think they'd be the two most targeted guys.
I mean,
you never know how it's going to turn out.
I'll give you an example.
Like what we did, Todd Rohn,
who I share the podcast league with,
like we were going to play Preston Williams last night
and I said, oh, let's just hold off
because we have an MBS, you know?
So he's not a must play.
You know, you're looking at your team and saying,
okay, what's on my roster and who can I,
you know, maybe play those guys over.
But again, it's a good secondary.
The receivers last week did nothing for
the Raiders right so I'm just saying how is you know how is Rogers a start like okay it's
philosophical question he's not a must start he's not a must start like I mean again you could see
Tannehill being better than him and I would have no problem playing Tannehill over him I'll probably
rank it that way because they're close now Stafford I would rank over Rogers as well okay if he doesn't
have those guys so This is without Adams.
So it's not like it's slam dunk to play Aaron Rodgers,
but I don't know if I'm running to my waiver wire
to pick up Justin Herbert to play over Aaron Rodgers
at this point.
That's not the case,
even though Herbert's got a good matchup himself.
All right.
So St. Brown is on IR.
You're right about that.
Malik Taylor is their only other receiver
on the active roster right now.
I'd have to go through and check their practice squad
to see. Begleton, Reggie Begleton, who we've to go through and check their practice squad to see.
Begleton, Reggie Begleton,
who we've talked about.
Darius Shepard is there.
But these are just guys.
Oh, Robert Foster is there.
Let's just focus on the fantasy-relevant guys, right?
So let me ask you this.
No, but I'm getting to my point.
Maybe it is Tanyan who ends up getting some work.
And the Packers obviously saw what the Raiders did
and leaning heavily on a big, kind of fast,
well, he is fast, Waller.
Here you go.
Here's a prediction for you.
If Devontae Adams does not play,
Mercedes Lewis catches a touchdown
because he's on the field 100% of the snaps.
All right.
Fair enough.
Okay, so let's say Adams and Thomas are both out.
Who's the best wide receiver in this game?
Might be Traquan Smith.
Who would you take?
Traquan Smith or Lazard or MVS?
It would either be Smith or...
I would go Lazard, MVS, Smith.
Skip a few.
Skip a lot.
Sanders.
But it's going to be the running backs.
I mean, that's where those guys are going to go to.
Okay.
Yeah, start Aaron Jones.
Saints have a great run defense, whatever.
Start Aaron Jones.
Start Alvin Kamara.
He's going to destroy the Packers run defense.
Can't really have any faith in Latavius Murray after his no-show in Vegas.
And then Jared Cook is top 10.
Like him or love him?
Like him a lot.
Okay.
Fair enough.
Sit the DSTs. Do you feel like we have to go more in depth? I'll ask a few Like him a lot. Okay, fair enough. Sit the DSTs.
Do you feel like we have to go more in depth?
I'll ask a few follow-up questions. Okay, Traquan Smith or Mike Davis?
Davis.
Davis.
Traquan Smith or Devin Singletary if Zach Moss plays?
Singletary.
Smith and PPR.
Marquez, Valdez, Gantling, orz Gantling or CD lamb assuming Adams is out
lamb okay MVS or Michael Gallup Gallup uh yeah Gallup okay and then we're sitting Drew Brees
even though he is the greatest primetime home game quarterback ever. I have the feeling that this could be a game where Aaron Rodgers puts up nice numbers
and Breeze doesn't, and everyone starts talking about how Breeze has kind of lost it.
They've been talking about that since Monday night.
I know, but it's going to be two weeks in a row on primetime.
I could easily see that being the storyline coming out of the game.
And guess what, Dave?
They're going to be wrong because I just don't buy it.
Sorry to say.
Do you think he's going to play well or do you think he's not done?
No, I think he's not done.
I think he's going to have a really good season
as soon as he gets Michael Thomas back.
He's taking away his best receiver.
I mean, it's not always great for quarterbacks.
Absolutely.
Stat of the game for Dallas and Seattle.
I already gave it.
It's about how bad Seattle's been against wide receivers,
and we talked about it a lot.
So we like the wide receivers in the game.
I mean, I'm just going to make this simple.
Are you sitting anyone?
It's all systems go, right?
Dallas, Seattle?
Yes.
Yep.
I mean, no Carlos Hyde.
David Moore.
Big game.
Craig Olson. Dave, you have DK Metcalf in your top five. I mean, no Carlos Hyde. David Moore. Big game. Craig Olson.
Dave, you have DK Metcalf in your top five.
I love him.
Dallas' defense is brutal.
Their secondary just is not good.
Dalton Schultz, I think, is maybe the top.
Dalton Schultz and Michael Gallup are probably the ones we need to stay on here
because everyone else should be started.
Well, okay.
The running backs and the Seattle wide receivers
and Amari Cooper probably started in 90-plus percent of leagues.
CeeDee Lamb, I'm guessing 70-plus percent of leagues.
Michael Gallup.
I mean, look, obviously there are going to be a lot of points scored in this game,
so you like that.
Bonanza, by the way.
Who should we compare Michael Gallup to?
Like, how many of the waiver wire running backs
are you starting over Gallup?
A bunch of them.
Davis, for sure.
Henderson, for sure.
Henderson, yeah.
But that's probably it.
I'm not starting the Giants guys over him.
No, I wouldn't do that either.
How about Darius Slayton or Golden Tate?
I would start both of them over him, yes.
Slayton for sure.
I'm sorry.
Gallop and non-PPR, Tate and PPR.
Fair enough.
Take a drink. I said fair enough. That's the new game.
Apparently I say that all the time.
Fair enough.
Dalton Schultz
is not in your top 12. Stashash them you don't have to start them who
are some tight ends you'd start over dalton schultz reed would be one of them logan thomas
would be one okay oh no i i actually like schultz i uh oh you did you move him up yeah i i think about how i remember the stat where
during the offseason where dac prescott leans on his tight end and there's always been like 90 plus
targets to the tight end the average is around like 115 something like that i don't remember
it off the top of my head right now and last week we saw it no blake jarwin no big deal dalton
schultz 10 targets here you go so inwin, no big deal. Dalton Schultz, 10 targets. Here you go.
So in a high scoring game, I would certainly expect Schultz
to continue to see a steady flow of targets.
He's just right guy, right place, right time.
Great matchup.
That's a good matchup.
Right, right.
It's just, it's probably just a solid matchup.
That's where Jamal Adams comes into play for us.
Right, right, right.
So I like him as a volume-based top 15 fantasy tight end.
I'll scratch what I said about starting Reid over him.
This is where I think you look at Gallup coming into play
because if they stay away from Adams,
then maybe there's a few more shots to Gallup,
who was clearly the fourth guy in terms of targets last week.
But Heath made a good point on Twitch last night.
Are they really going to put Jamal Adams on Dalton Schultz
when you've got these three wide receivers?
You've got to figure he's going to be helping on Gallup.
They don't play man.
They don't really play man-to-man defense in Seattle.
They're going to play this cover two or cover three type of defense
and try and keep all these receivers in front of them
and just hit them when
they after they make the catch so schultz will be open frequently he's just not going to get a lot
of yards after the catch and when they get inside the five for example that's when you might see
seattle play more man coverage and that's where jamal adams could take away dalton schultz i mean
think about week one for seattle who was the guy that was missing from the Atlanta passing attack? It was Hayden Hurst.
Yeah.
Very similar setup.
I suppose so. Alright.
Cincinnati at Philadelphia.
Already gave the stat of the game for this one.
It's about Philadelphia being so bad against
tight ends. Touchdown to Logan Thomas. Three touchdowns
to Tyler Higby on only five targets.
So, I'm sorry.
Drew Sample or Dalton Schultz?
Schultz.
Okay.
Joe Burrow.
You know, he's 16th for Jamie,
he's 16th for Heath,
he's 20th for Dave.
The Eagles were fine against Haskins,
got kind of torn up by Jared Goff.
You mean when the quarterback play was better
and the numbers were worse?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
That's how that works.
Right.
Interesting stuff there.
Yeah.
So Burrow, I know people probably it's hard to really trust him,
but over Breeze, right?
Yes.
It's close.
Volume, volume, volume.
I think Mixon can have a good game.
So I'm worried about that.
I think Mixon can get more work and be more involved.
I'm not getting away from Mixon as a number one running back.
I'm worried he's going to...
Eagles always have a good run defense,
although they weren't so good last week.
But I'm worried that he's going to have a bad game
and then it's going to be really hard for me to tell everybody
to stop freaking out about Joe Mixon.
Sure.
Yeah.
This will be a telltale game.
If he doesn't do well, then people are going to freak out.
By low, by low, by low.
That's what I think is the right answer, but I don't know.
It's so strange how he's gotten off to this slow start.
I think it's more than just the offensive line stinks.
I think they're not using the offensive line like they did last year.
Well, it's also, I mean, the Chargers defense is good.
And I don't think their run defense got enough credit coming into the season
with some of the moves that they made.
That's Brown's run defense has been fantastic.
Absolutely.
And, you know, now, like you said, Adam, I agree with you.
I think the Eagles run defense is going to make things tough on Mixon.
The thing that you have to hope for is volume for him still.
So the fact that Burrow threw 61 times against the Browns,
he still had 20 touches, you know, and so keep throwing on the ball.
You know, get him in that three to four catch range again,
and hopefully that's the case.
He'd be on pace for 40 catches so far this year,
which is kind of the number we were looking at for him.
So get Giovanni Bernard out of the way.
Just keep putting the ball in Mixon's hands as much as
he can and see if he can start to break something. I wish that would happen. I'm just afraid it's
not going to happen. I think they like Gio. He just didn't have the production. I think Gio
still played more third downs than Mixon last week. Oh, that's, you know, if that's the way
you want to operate, fine. But, you know, don't be so obvious in first and second down and just
run Mixon when he's out there. Right. Get him involved in the passing game on first and second
down, sure. And he had four catches, so that was encouraging.
So, I mean, is he a start, Joe Mixon?
Yes.
Would you start Leonard Fournette
over Joe Mixon? No.
Would you start
CeeDee Lamb
or Russell Gage over Mixon in
PPR? No.
Okay. Alright, start over Mixon in PPR? No. Okay.
All right, start Joe Mixon.
How about Tyler Boyd and A.J. Green?
Who do you like better?
Still Green.
The volume is just too much.
Yeah.
This might be the toughest game this week to predict,
at least of this NFC home game slate.
Well, you have a very, frustrating eagles offense and yeah this is
the perfect spot for carson wentz to get better you know i mean everybody runs on the bangles so
far this season in the two games that they played but their secondary is not good and so this home
game they're a favorite at home you know you need a win you need to get your quarterback right
got people talking about him with his hat backwards i mean there's a lot of just you
know negativity going around
with Carson Wentz.
This is the time to, you know,
prove yourself,
and hopefully he does.
Burrow or Wentz?
Wentz.
Wentz, but it's close.
So this is going to be
an interesting test
because Wentz has, what,
nine games in a row
with 40 or more passes
and 10 games with 30 or nine,
39 or more passes.
And it's not like the Bengals have a great secondary,
but they've seen the third or fourth fewest wide receiver targets
because teams just run all over them.
So I wonder if Wentz is finally going to break that streak,
if this is more of like a 28 to 30 pass attempt kind of game,
because Miles Sanders is just going nuts.
It would be smart for the Eagles to do that,
because then you're limiting the mistakes
that Carson Wentz can make
and the hits that he can take
because that's kind of been a problem for him.
So, you know, this is where fantasy and reality
sort of split.
Like, you'd like to see Wentz have a great fantasy game,
but the Eagles need him just to play a good game, period.
And so, you know, if he's more of a game manager,
that's probably better for their team.
Especially now you're down to Taylor Rager.
Right. Push comes to shove.
I'm sure that's what they'd rather have.
I know that their identity is throwing the football.
It's going to come down to how their defense does.
And by the way, I'll take Boyd over A.J. Green.
Are there any must-start?
We've seen how number one receivers have done against Philly so far this year.
Sorry about that, Dave.
Are there any must-start wide receivers in this game?
Sean Jackson's pretty appealing. And then, of course, the Bengals guys are, Dave. Are there any must-start wide receivers in this game? Sean Jackson's pretty appealing,
and then, of course, the Bengals guys are more appealing.
Any of them must-starts?
In the definition of the word, no.
Or phrase, no.
But, I mean, again, if you're getting A.J. Green
this amount of targets, it's hard to overlook.
At some point, there's going to start to be some production there.
Yeah.
I mean, give the Eagles credit.
So far, they've been pretty good against wide receivers.
Cup had a decent game, but McLaurin...
Yeah, Robert Woods scored, but it was on a rush.
Yeah, McLaurin 61 yards, Sims 50 yards,
Robert Woods 14 yards, Cup 81.
But, I mean, last year, like, number one receivers
basically crushed Darius Slay, or they crushed Detroit.
I don't know how much of that was on Slay,
but I'm not sure
it's a matchup you need to really shy away from.
And then Deshaun Jackson. Like Deshaun Jackson or
Michael Gallup? Jackson.
Jackson, Gallup.
Deshaun Jackson or
do it running back here.
Daryl Henderson.
Henderson.
But Jackson's better than all the receivers
not named Devontae Adams or Michael Thomas
in that Saints-Packers game.
Okay.
I hope so,
because he didn't really do so great last week.
Six for 64 on nine targets.
You know, play action, deep ball type thing.
He'll get a couple of opportunities deep.
And which tight end do you prefer for the Eagles?
Still Ertz, but it's close.
Okay. Both of them are
worth starting this week. Look,
I took a long look at it this
week, and just the Bengals, more often than not,
they also play zone, and so there's
plenty of open space for both
tight ends to do well. Especially with Rager
out, there's more targets available now. That's for
sure. Not that they need it, but there's still more targets. They're both top 12
in PPR. Eagles
DST 10th for Jamie, 20th
for Dave, 16th for Heath. So
we'll mostly call them a sit.
San Francisco is at the Giants
and only good
news for the Niners is it looks like Jason
Verrett is going to play cornerback.
Akilah Witherspoon apparently
really struggled in week two and they're already
down Richard Sherman. So I think that's why you heard Dave and Jamie like Darius Slayton.
They like Golden Tate.
I think Slayton is a really good DFS tournament play.
He just has big games.
And I actually think I'm going to do a fun Daniel Jones lineup.
I was thinking about doing the same.
You know the problem?
Actually, I started.
We're going to talk about it on on hq today i started doing a daniel jones lineup but on fan duel it's just so
easy to have superstars like i did a daniel jones lineup and then i had like three thousand dollars
left i was like okay i yeah i'm not like i'm not gonna pass kyler murray up for daniel jones but
he's probably how you win you got to win with a guy like Daniel Jones.
Yeah, that's why I'm going to do a separate Daniel Jones lineup.
And it's much different in DFS versus your just regular seasonal.
No, play Daniel Jones over Kyler Murray.
That's the issue.
No, no, I just meant in general.
Like, he's not a start.
You can't.
But he does have.
San Francisco, I don't know what to expect from them.
They are a shell of themselves.
And you guys think the Giants are going to win.
And they have no running game.
So there's opportunities there.
By the way, in eight starts with Nick Mullins in 2018,
George Kittle was on pace for almost 1,600 yards.
Dante Pettis was on pace for 848 yards and nine touchdowns.
So he can get you some numbers, Nick Mullins.
He wasn't that bad.
He's also a DFS consideration.
I mean, he's cheaper than Tyrod Taylor, Drew Locke,
and who's the other quarterback I'm blanking on right now?
Jimmy Garoppolo.
I guess, yeah.
Oh, yeah, that guy.
He's cheaper than all three of them.
He's 5,100 on draft Kings.
Well,
remember grapple hasn't been ruled out yet though.
So keep that in mind.
That's true.
But it,
I mean,
even Kyle Shanahan said it's looking like Mullins is going to play.
Well,
part of it is because they don't want to put anybody on that surface.
Yeah.
Do you trust George Kittle?
If he plays,
of course you're not,
you're not sitting him.
Do you, um, I, I know we talked about it earlier in the show, but he plays. Of course. You're not sitting him. Do you...
I know we talked about it earlier in the show,
but just give me a recap, I think, of the 49ers running backs
and how you feel about them and who gets the most carries
and whatnot between Wilson and McKinnon.
I think Wilson's going to get the most carries.
I think he's the one that you look at non-PPR.
He's going to have to score to help you across the board.
But I wouldn't be surprised if he's 14, know, 14, 15 carries for 60 some odd yards.
It won't be pretty.
But, you know, if he finds the end zone, then he's going to be okay.
So, like, I'd start him over Zach Moss, for example, if you're looking at it, Moss plays.
Last I saw, he was rostered in 86% of leagues.
I'm not sure if that number is significantly lower
since I last looked, and it was Wednesday.
Jeff Wilson?
Thursday, yeah.
No, no.
You're thinking of McKinnon.
McKinnon's 96, Wilson's 24.
No, Wilson's available.
Oh, available.
I'm sorry, I said rostered in.
Not rostered.
76 now.
Not rostered in 86% of leagues.
76 now.
I'm in this league with a bunch of guys in the industry
where I had McCaffrey and Barkley.
And I'm forced to start Wilson, and I'm kind of excited about it.
His offensive line's healthy.
Kyle Shanahan's a genius.
The Giants' run defense isn't great.
And he's got fresh legs.
And he's a physical guy.
He could score maybe 40 or 50 yards on top of it.
And he's out there.
So if you need a running back, go get him. i i i'm starting him in uh in the guillotine league because my running
backs are so bad and yes i feel bad about hyping up the giants defense run defense uh they have
given up now in two games 47 rushing yards in the fourth quarter to benny snell and 50 rushing yards
in the fourth quarter to david montgomery so it's just been weird they've gotten just rushing yards in the fourth quarter to David Montgomery. So it's just been weird.
They've gotten just gashed in the fourth.
Perfect for Jeff Wilson under the assumption that the 49ers were going to
have the lead in the fourth quarter.
I don't think they could, for sure.
But we both think the Giants are going to win the game.
Could be a back-and-forth type game.
That wouldn't hurt Wilson.
But if the 49ers find themselves down 10 points in the fourth quarter,
then it's not going to be good for Wilson.
It's just so funny that you hear you have the giants are at home.
They're facing a team without their best defensive player.
There are two best defensive players.
Maybe there are three best defensive players.
They're starting quarterback.
They're starting running back.
They're on the road for the second.
Samuel and maybe George Kittle.
Right?
And they're still not expected
to win the game.
I've been giving the spread. Sorry about that.
Yeah,
San Francisco's minus four right now.
They open minus six and a half.
One thing I'm looking at...
I'm going to make them down because I think
once you get Garoppolo and maybe Kittle ruled out. One thing that looks a little high to me is the total in the packers saints game by
the way 52 and a half right that'll come down i don't know it went up it was started at 51 and a
half if adam gets ruled out it'll come down it'll be under 50 sports insight says that uh the 49ers
are getting 57 of the bets with the spread. With the spread.
I'd take the Giants with the points.
I would in a heartbeat.
I will in a heartbeat.
All right, if Jordan Reed plays,
if George Kittle's out,
would you start Jordan Reed or Evan Ingram?
Ingram still.
Yeah.
Okay.
He's got 15 targets this year.
Eventually, something good's going to happen.
And he was 6 for 65 last week, Evan Ingram.
Not that bad.
Would you start Dallas Goddard or Evan Ingram?
Goddard.
In PPR, it's Goddard.
Not in non-PPR.
Do you still have faith in the Niners' DST?
Yeah.
I guess.
Jameis Jones?
You hate that one.
You hate that.
You're going to start making t-shirts.
All right.
Tennessee is at Minnesota.
The Vikings, not...
You might be the most excited person
to talk about this game on the planet.
Not to be overlooked.
Anthony Barr is out for the year.
It's a big deal for the Vikings.
It is big, yep.
All right, Ryan Tannehill.
Let's see, Ryan Tannehill or Matthew Stafford?
Tannehill for now.
That may change.
Ryan Tannehill
or Ben Roethlisberger?
Oh, that's close.
I'm sorry.
You guys have been back-to-back.
I'd take Tannehill.
Yeah, all right.
So that's a toss-up there.
Derrick Henry start,
Dalvin Cook start,
Adam Thielen start. So let's talk, Dalvin Cook's start, Adam Thielen's start.
So let's talk about Corey Davis and John O'Smith.
Corey Davis is rostered in 71% of leagues.
I mean, you look at his numbers last week,
three catches, 36 yards, and a touchdown.
He came on five targets.
Well, Tannehill threw, what, 25 passes?
24. Something like that.
24.
So I guess you always have to be concerned
about how many passes he's going to throw.
But how do you feel about Corey Davis?
We've talked about a lot of flex-wide receivers
like the Golden Tates and the Deshaun Jacksons and whatnot.
Where's Corey Davis in there?
He's a good number three receiver.
Yeah, I'd take Lamb ahead of him.
I'd take John Brown ahead of him.
But I think that Corey Davis is toward the end of that flex range,
at least in PPR, non-PPR, maybe a little bit closer to them.
I'd start Davis over the, again, Saints and Packers guys,
assuming that they're there.
Yeah.
Minnesota's pass rush is not very good.
I won't say it's nonexistent.
It's just not good.
And Tannehill's making plays when the pass rush is right
in his face. Just give him even more
time to throw. He's going to be fantastic.
So super efficiency
is in his favor, and I could
certainly see the Titans
throwing a couple of touchdowns.
This game opened as a pick-em,
and now it's minus two and a half
for Tennessee.
I think Minnesota wins the game. Even as bad and beaten as they are.
They're not as bad of a team as they have shown,
and they're at home, desperation time.
I think they're going to end up winning the game.
Cousins would have to have a lights-out game for it to happen.
Dalvin Cook.
Dalvin Cook.
The Titans' run defense has been pretty bad so far.
So, obvious, three running backs have scored a touchdown
against the Titans, 5.2 yards per carry to running back.
So it could be a big Dalvin Cook game.
John U. Smith is a stud for you guys.
Top eight this week.
We just saw Mo'Ally Cox have 100 yards on six targets,
111 yards against Minnesota.
So some of the names you guys are starting John O. Smith
over would be, correct me if I'm
wrong, but Evan Ingram,
Jared Cook, Hayden
Hurst, Dallas Goddard. Both Eagles.
Both Eagles. Okay.
So yeah, John O. Smith.
Go with John O. Smith
and that is it in this game.
Tennessee DST is top eight.
You can go with them.
Last game is Detroit at Arizona.
Here's the stat of the game.
So far, George Kittle,
four catches for 44 yards against Arizona.
Logan Thomas, nine targets,
only 26 yards on four catches.
Holy cow.
The Cardinals are so good against tight ends.
It has nothing to do with Isaiah Simmons, I don't think.
He's barely played.
No.
Are you buying that?
Because TJ Hawkinson burst onto the scene in week one last year
and exposed what would become a team that was among the worst
in years and years and years against tight ends.
How do you feel about Hawkinson going into this game against Arizona?
I don't hate him. He's a low-end starter at best all right that's a good way to put it targets
will come down with holiday there and so is the cardinals deep look george kittle got hurt in the
game so i don't know that's a fair representation of what the cardinals are going to do. They hurt tight ends. Scary. They do hurt tight ends.
It's true.
Got to be worried about TJ Hawkinson.
The Lions need to sit TJ Hawkinson.
No.
But, yeah, I mean, it was obviously a focal point of their defense
to get better in that area.
And so far through two games, it's been the case.
Okay, so is he a starter sit hawkinson
hawkinson's in that uh good replacement option type of guys uh better than the logan thomases
and drew samples of the world i'd start him over dalton schultz but i'm not going to start him over
you know even higby if the bills guys play okay uh stafford is like borderline top 12. right yeah i hope kenny galladay gets in full
practice on friday because that'll make a lot of people feel better about stafford but they're
gonna be chasing points and garbage time this is what matthew stafford was last year hopefully
it'll be the case again this year i don't think there's there should be much hesitation if any
if rogers doesn't have davante adams if breezeze doesn't have Michael Thomas, you can start Stafford if he's got Galladay.
Okay.
And we haven't even spoken about Breeze
if Michael Thomas plays.
So let me just throw that out there real quick.
If Michael Thomas does somehow play,
where would Breeze rank?
I guess I'd move him up a little bit,
but he still wouldn't be top 12.
And I don't know how effective Michael Thomas would be
if he truly has a high ankle sprain,
how well can he move?
Right.
If Thomas plays,
you start bracing.
It's obviously case specific,
but you feel a lot more comfortable with it.
We got some obvious starts in this game.
Kyler Murray is number one for everybody this week.
Kenyon Drake,
you're starting him and Deandre Hopkins.
You're starting him.
Kenny Galladay. is he an obvious start?
I think so.
Okay.
You can worry about the rust factor and all that stuff,
but the Cardinals cornerbacks are solid.
And who's a better flex, Marvin Jones or DeAndre Swift?
Jones.
Jones is the better flex.
All right.
So avoid the Lions running backs,
Marvin Jones or DeSean?
I don't hate Swift if you're desperate in a PPR
because I could see him getting five plus receptions
and he's been okay.
You know, they throw out the touchdown drop
against Chicago.
Other than that, he's been okay
catching the ball out of the backfield.
He's just not carrying the ball,
which is the frustrating thing.
And finally,
yeah,
so what was I saying?
Marvin Jones or Deshaun Jackson?
Deshaun,
just given the fact
that Rager being out
and Galladay being back.
But garbage time
is going to help him too.
So I think Marvin Jones
is going to be in a good spot.
I'll go the other way.
I'll say Marvin Jones
is a little bit better.
Certainly in PPR,
I think he's better.
Garbage time.
Cardinals are now
six-point favorites.
They opened as
three-and-a-half-point favorites.
People are on
the Arizona Cardinals,
and Dave is on their DST.
Dave has the Cardinals DST fifth.
They are 14th.
It'll move down
if Galladay plays.
Okay.
So,
it won't be quite as good
of a start.
They still might be top 12, but I don't think they won't be quite as good of a start. They still might be top 12,
but I don't think they
won't be anywhere close to fifth.
They might be like 11th. I'd have
to weigh them versus Cleveland.
All right. Big weekend. Week three.
Don't want to go 0-3. All right. So for a lot of you,
this is a big, big weekend.
What should people do, Adam?
What, this weekend? Yeah.
I know what I'm going to be doing, man.
I'm going to be
not attending
the Miami-Florida State game
for the first time
since 1998.
At least the home games
for Miami.
It's a big,
this is usually a big
let's all go to Florida
and go to the game
and tailgates
is one of the most fun
weekends of the year
for me every year
or every other year, I guess,
when it's in Miami.
So I'm a little disappointed I won't be able to do that. But
yeah, I'll be watching college football
and getting ready
for possibly a Yankees-White Sox
postseason matchup next week, Dave.
Oh, man. I was so excited a
week ago. And ever since they clinched,
they've been terrible.
Same with the Yankees. Don't worry.
Yeah. We'll talk to you all.
You guys make a bet? Yeah, we will.
We will if it's official.
What I was saying, what should people do
with their 0-2?
It's not what I was going for. I didn't want a rundown
of what you were going to do this weekend. I thought you meant what should they do this
weekend. No, they should
go win your league.
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