Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC): Mike Evans, Brian Robinson Jr., Packers wide receivers and More (11/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 22, 2024

Recapping the Steelers-Browns snowy matchup and wondering if it's time to panic about Najee Harris. They also touch on the Steelers quarterback tantum of Russell Wilson and Justin Fields before discus...sing the latest injuries, news, and notes to get you ready for the weekend (8:30). Next, they discuss One Question for Each Game (19:55). Is Mike Evans an easy start this week? Can you trust any Packers wide receivers? Should fantasy managers trust DJ Moore? Finally, they go through their starts and sits for each game (24:40).  1:00 - Steelers-Browns Recap 8:30 - Injuries, News and Notes 17:00 - Injuries, News and Notes continues 19:55 - One Question for Each Game 24:40 - Tampa Bay at New York Giants 37:50 - San Francisco at Green Bay 47:35 - Dallas at Washington 56:00 - Arizona at Seattle 1:06:45 - Minnesota at Chicago 1:17:20 - Philadelphia at Los Angeles Rams Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:16 1130 a.m. Eastern CBS Sports HQ at 10 a.m. Eastern guys what do you think about that game last night the snow fest between the Browns and the Steelers. Browns winning that game 24-19. Just your overall thoughts, Dave, I'll start with you. I was amused by it, obviously. It was fun watching the snow come down and where it's a reminder that we're entering that time of year where you really need to stay
Starting point is 00:02:40 on top of the weather before any outdoor game. We saw Jameis Winston attempt just 27 passes. I don't know how many he attempted in the first quarter. It felt like the entire first quarter of that game was a throwaway. And then both offenses were like, Hey, wait a minute. We can throw the ball a little bit. Let's just throw it. And so for three quarters, uh, it's certainly more so in the
Starting point is 00:02:59 second half than the second quarter. Uh, we got treated to kind of a quasi shootout. It wasn't exactly something that worked out for every wide receiver. It certainly didn't work out for the quarterbacks, but it was an entertaining game. It was awesome to see Nick Chubb score twice. If he was on your bench, that kind of stinks. And I think it's, this was the type of game where you would expect Najee Harris to not only get a lot of work, but
Starting point is 00:03:25 do well with it. It's the snow, it's the Browns without their best linebacker playing. Najee had been running well for several weeks and he really, really disappointed to the point where Jaylen Warren not only had a touchdown, Jaylen Warren looked better and Jaylen Warren dominated playing time. He had, let me call it up real quick. He had 57% of the snaps, both of their snaps inside the five, 13 of 16 snaps on third down.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I don't know if it's happening, Jamie and Heath. I don't know if we're getting Jalen Warren as the lead back in Pittsburgh quite yet, but last night, Thursday night, he was the lead guy. I think the nice thing was like we told a lot of people, or I did at least, I didn't really want to start Nick Chubb. And I think a lot of people with six teams on a buy if they had Nick Chubb on their roster probably didn't have a choice. And so
Starting point is 00:04:15 not really a good game for him. But he scored two touchdowns, and he helped you out. And he scored double digit fantasy points. That's great. Jerry Judy looks like the number one he's had 14 fantasy points. That's great. Jerry Judy looks like the number one. He's had 14 fantasy points. That's great. I'm on HQ in about four hours and we do a kind of a panicometer and I had to send in the names for that and I thought about sending in Najee Harris because like it is, is it happening?
Starting point is 00:04:39 It is a time to panic on Najee. Um, we've seen a lot of times over the last three years or two years where it looked like, Ooh, Shaylin Warren might be taking the lead job. And then it usually doesn't happen. All right. So let's go through some of the numbers from last night's game again. Brown's 24, Steelers 19. We'll start with Pittsburgh. So we got the quarterback tandem that I think a lot of people were concerned about if you were starting or buying into Russell Wilson. He 270 and a touchdown three carries for 10 yards lost the fumble Justin Fields attempted one past was incomplete He did have three carries for 26 yards seems like he sparked the offense a little bit with his big run there
Starting point is 00:05:16 To set up but what what felt like no Pittsburgh taking the league you guys touched on this a little bit So now G Harris 16 for 41 catches, 13 yards on two targets. Jaylen Warren 11 for 45 and a touchdown, three carries for 19 yards on five targets. It was not a good game for the pass catchers that we rely on for the Steelers. Are we done with Mike Williams? Are we just dropping at this point? No catches for the second game in a row? Yeah. Unfortunate there. George Pickens 4 for 48 and 7 targets. We'll see if there's going to be a revenge game next time these two teams met
Starting point is 00:05:46 after Newsom says fake tough guy after the little scuffle there at the end of the game. So we'll see how that goes next time these two teams meet up in a couple weeks. Calvin Austin did have a touchdown, but I don't think anybody's buying into him. Three targets, he had three catches, 78 yards and the score. And not a bad game for Pat Prior, moves four catches, 59 yards on four targets. For Cleveland, Jameis Winston 2-19 and the interception, the score and not a bad game for Pat Priemuth. Four catches, 59 yards on four targets. For Cleveland, Jameis Winston, 219 and the interception. He also scored a rushing touchdown but lost the fumble.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Dave touched on this. The two touchdowns for Nick Chubb is now three yards per carry in each of his four games back. So he's not running well, 24-59. You got lucky, I think, with the two touchdowns from a fantasy perspective. But he scored them, give him credit. And the Steelers continue to give up rushing touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:06:26 So just keep that in mind for their future opponents. Jerome Ford, are we done with him? Four carries, 19 yards, one catch for eight yards. We have to wait to see if maybe Nick Chubb has to miss any time before we buy into Jerome Ford. Handcuff. Handcuff. Heath mentioned this, Jerry Judy, six for 85, six targets.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Is it clear that he's just the number one receiver right now for Cleveland? Hi, you'd like to say that and in terms of production it is like it's now four games and he's been good in three of them But if you look at targets like he had sticks Elijah Moore had five David Najok who had five Tillman had four and left with the concussion So I wouldn't be surprised if there's a week where one of these guys has ten and Judy has eight So I wouldn't be surprised if there's a week where one of these guys has 10 and Judy has eight. But as it is still, you know, the numbers without a Mario Cooper with Jamis Winston have been pretty solid and you just like in a good spot in a tough spot. He's leaning on Jerry Judy quite a bit.
Starting point is 00:07:16 You mentioned Cedric Tillman leaving with the concussion. So he's in the concussion protocol. We'll see what happens going into week 13. But you might be without Cedric Tillman. You might want to bench said or tell me anyway, just based on the lack of production the last two weeks. But again, who knows how that game would have finished? When he did suffer the concussion in the second half,
Starting point is 00:07:34 Elijah more three for 21. So two good games to bad games with Jamis Winston now. So again, we'll see what happens moving forward. And really nothing to worry about. I think with David to joke, he's gonna have bad games every now and then one catch for nine yards So bad Sorry, they dropped a touchdown he dropped touchdown. Yeah, so, you know, it's it's not gonna be Smooth sailing with all these guys. We said that going into the week
Starting point is 00:07:54 You know that there's gonna be times where when you have four pass catchers like this that are all commanding targets Not everybody's gonna be productive week in week out But you know, hopefully David Njoku bounces back after this game and may benefit if said your Tillman is gonna miss any time to of matchups. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. There you go. If you haven't signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code fantasy and you will get up to I skipped ahead too far so I missed the read. So let's start that again. There we go. If you haven't signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code fantasy and you'll get up to $1,500 first bet offer on your first wager with BetMGM.
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Starting point is 00:09:03 That's your BetMGM sponsorship there. Hopefully they don't hate me for butchering down All right. So again, we have a couple things coming out We recorded our mailbag on Thursday night. You can hear the audio on Saturday But you can watch it again if you want to on YouTube It was a fun episode with myself then and Adam on Sunday morning at 11 30 a.m Eastern that you catch us on YouTube answering All of your questions. It's on YouTube only so check that out 1130 a.m. Sunday and if you want to wake up a
Starting point is 00:09:28 little earlier than that 10 a.m. Eastern on CBS Sports HQ it's our NFL and fantasy pregame show. This week we'll have Bryant McFadden joining us with Logan Ryan, Tommy Tran, Pete Prisco and myself give you a full look at the entire NFL slate for the week and give you some fantasy advice as well. So there's what you want to do on Sunday morning. All right, let's get into some injuries, news and notes before we take our first break. So we'll start with the quarterback position and I want to get your guys thoughts on, on this and Heath, you specifically because of dynasty value. So Daniel Jones basically say goodbye yesterday. Um, it was, uh,
Starting point is 00:10:01 an emotional speech. It sounded as if like he was getting cut. He was basically just, you know, kind of summarizing where he's at now with the team and sort of, you know, answering questions about Playing on the scout team. Um, you know not getting the starting job anymore What do we think about his long-term value? He's he's not going to be on the giants But do you think he has a chance to you know, maybe sit for a season? Play again at some point. I don't know what the market will be for him given what the draft class looks like for the quarterbacks, but are you holding onto Daniel Jones in a one quarterback 12 team dynasty league? Well, no, not in, I mean, in one quarterback 12 team. I mean,
Starting point is 00:10:34 some of those he may not have even been rostered. The super flex, I think you definitely do. And I think like you can look at the top 12 quarterbacks right now this year and find a handful of guys who at least one team gave up on them. Like Baker Mayfield, we thought it was over at one point. Sam Darnold, we thought it was over at one point. You know, Smith, we thought it was over at three different points. Even Jared Goff, like the Rams were just throwing him into the deal because they wanted to go get Matthew Stafford.
Starting point is 00:11:03 So I want to hold on to him. I'm not giving up on him. I think it'll be really interesting this off season to see what does he value? Does he go somewhere like, like you've talked about the car wash where a team that can make like turn him into a better quarterback if he sits for a year or does he go somewhere and try to earn a starting job next year? Here's a question. How many quarterback jobs are going to be open this off season?
Starting point is 00:11:27 Like I'm, I'm running through the teams right now and I'm thinking there might be like six, six teams that are in the market for a new quarterback giant. I think that are questionable or guaranteed. You got the Raiders. Yep. You have the jets potentially. He's not going to the Giants, obviously. I mean, that would be kind of ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Titans? Titans might. Titans, Titans almost certainly will. Panthers, maybe. Steelers, I don't, do Steelers have a quarterback under contract for next year? There's not a quarterback under contract. They don't, but they could theoretically resign one or both of the guys that they have now. But sure, they're, they're in, did you say New Orleans?
Starting point is 00:12:07 Nope. New Orleans is definitely in the, in the conversation. You got to assume that if places, I would imagine that his goal is going to be to try and latch on with one of those places. If I was, if I was Daniel Jones and Sam Darnold leaves the Vikings, that's the place I would go. I don't know if they'd want them, but sure. That that would be an excellent opportunity.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Play behind JJ McCarthy, learn from Kevin O'Connell. You know that the standing for McCarthy right now, not guaranteed because of his injuries. Yeah. Sure. No, that makes sense. Any, any quarterback that goes to Minnesota is going to get attention. Certainly in super flex leagues, just in case McCarthy isn't ready to go.
Starting point is 00:12:45 I would say his next best option is to go to a team that's got, you know, kind of do what Carson Wentz did and go to a team that's going to be playoff bound, great coaching staff and maybe they can help. That's the Baker Mayfield route, right? Isn't that what Baker ended up doing is he went to LA. It was only for like a third of the season that he was with the Rams and he played for the Rams. But that kind of jumpstarted his chance to, you know, build himself back up and then the Bucs bought in. And lo and behold, here he was, a great NFL quarterback and a great fantasy quarterback again. So there will be options
Starting point is 00:13:19 for him. I don't think he's going to be like kicked to the curb and, you know, given the double bird from the rest of the league, but it's just a matter of, can he find a place where he can even potentially start at any point in the season? Obviously, he's back anywhere that could happen. But he'd want to go somewhere where he could at least have a chance to start Week 1 or get coached up by a really good coach that can help them bounce back in 2026. Let's rip through some of these news and notes here. So Kyle Shanahan remains hopeful that Brock Purdy will play Sunday at Green Bay. He's dealing with a shoulder injury, did throw a little bit more on Thursday than he did on Wednesday, but did not finish practice.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Right. Just quickly, Heath, if we don't have Brock Purdy, and right now it could be Brandon Allen, maybe Josh Dobbs or Brandon Allen right now is number two on the depth chart. Yeah. Do we downgrade everybody in San Francisco? Yes. I, my first instinct was a lot. And then I remembered like we had Nick Mullins throwing for eight yards per attempt at one point in this offense.
Starting point is 00:14:20 Like I, I'm not sure. Probably not as much as I was originally thinking. I'll probably move Debo and Juwan Jennings outside of my top 24 wide receivers, but they'll still be inside of my top 36. George Kittle still going to be a must start tight end. Christian McCaffrey still going to be a must start running back. We're going to just game a little bit later, but okay. Okay. I've got Brandon Allen's career stats.
Starting point is 00:14:41 I was going to ask Heath, uh, where were these numbers ranked compared to like an average quarterback, but we can do that later. And save that for later. All right, running back news. We got Alexander Madison and Zameer White both not practicing again on Thursday, they did not practice on Wednesday. Amir Abdullah 33% roster Dave if Abdullah is the starter for the Raiders against the Broncos. He is a what's running back to a good bye week running back in a desperation spot starter in half and full PPR and I don't think
Starting point is 00:15:08 he'll be the only guy there. There was a report in the Las Vegas Review Journal that rookie Dylan Lauby could get a good amount of work as well. We've talked about Lauby this week about his only carry went for negative fantasy points because he fumbled. They have a practice squad running back named Sincere McCormick, who I need to learn about before I start thinking about how he could fit into the Raiders offense. But the reality is this. This is a Raiders offense that isn't very good against a Denver defense. That's really good. And we could end up seeing this game get lopsided pretty quickly, much like the Broncos game did last week. And that could lead to a mirror of Dula logging
Starting point is 00:15:45 a lot of snaps as the passing downs back, hurry up offense back, play from behind type back and maybe he gets in the neighborhood of four or five catches along with eight carries on top of it. You could do worse for a bi-week running back. So here's what just in case you're looking at it from PPR, Denver has allowed eight running backs to score at least 6.8 PPR points this season with just their receiving totals alone. So he would get the opportunity to play a lot on passing downs. And if that's where we're starting with, that puts him in a solid flex spot potential starting option if he's going to get around six PPR points
Starting point is 00:16:19 with just his reception totals because you can throw the ball out of the backfield against Denver. How excited are you Jamie to have this guy back in? I mean, you know, between JK Dobbins and Amir Abdullah, it's like, you know, my favorite season ever. Isaiah Pacheco was limited again on Thursday. Heath, just give us your take again. If Pacheco does play the split between him and Kareem Hunt, and how would you like these
Starting point is 00:16:42 guys? Yeah, I think Kareem Hunt is a high end RB2 without Isaiah Pacheco. He's a low end RB2 with Isaiah Pacheco. I would expect Kareem Hunt touch the ball more than Isaiah Pacheco or the same and Pacheco's first game back. I would expect Kareem Hunt to handle the short yardage work. And hopefully that the real key is that we need some OJP Ryan to go away on passing downs. Because if P Ryan's handling passing downs and Pacheco and Hunter's chopping up the rushing downs, then we may not want to start anybody in this offense, but I would still favor hunt in week one. And I still don't really feel like Pacheco is going to play this week.
Starting point is 00:17:18 Yeah, we'll we'll find out hopefully before Sunday, but we get that answer for you. If we don't get it the answer for you, since we already did our mail bag, we'll get that to you on Sunday morning at 1130 a.m. Eastern. DeAndre Swift, it was upgraded to limited practice on Thursday, but not practicing on Wednesday. We'll talk about that game as they take on Minnesota. Josh Jacobs, still limited in practice with the quadricep injury.
Starting point is 00:17:38 We'll talk about that game as they take on San Francisco. You got two running backs in the concussion protocol. TyJ Spears did not practice on Thursday. They get Houston this week. So that's good news for Tony Pollard in terms of his workload, tough matchup. And Justice Hill started the week in the concussion protocol. So maybe Keaton Mitchell gets a bigger role in the passing down situation as the number two guy there behind Derrick Henry as they take on the Chargers on Monday night football.
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Starting point is 00:18:19 Terms and conditions for our different programs and policies apply details at fizz.ca. A lot of good games coming up on CBS on Sunday. Make sure you're checking it out. You could also stream the games on Paramount Plus. Wide receiver news and notes. DeMonte Smith did not practice again on Thursday. We'll talk about that game as they take on the Rams this week. Could be good news for Dallas Goddard and hopefully a bounce back game for A.J.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Brown. He's been struggling a little bit in his last four games. CD Lamb was downgraded from limited from limited practice on Wednesday to not practicing on Thursday. That's certainly an injury to monitor as they take on the commanders. Brandon Cooks was limited Thursday as well. He's trying to make his return from IR. He's 16% rostered, so maybe if Lamb does not play, you're looking at Brandon Cooks in a desperate situation. Lad McConkey started the week as limited. Hopefully he'll be okay Monday night football against the Ravens. Darius Slayton was a full participant in practice coming back from the concussion protocol and Adam Thielen
Starting point is 00:19:07 Remain limited in practice on Thursday. He's 24% rostered they take on Kansas City for this week tight ends He said George Kittle will be downgraded if Brandon Allen starts But that's good news that George Kittle will play because he was still remains limited in practice on Thursday But he is expected to go against Packers Jake Ferguson still in the concussion protocol Luke Skoonmaker is 7% rostered as they take on the commanders We'll talk about that game and Noah Phant was upgraded to limited practice on Thursday. He's missed the last two games with a groin injury Maybe he does return against Arizona in week number 11 some offensive line injury news to keep an eye on Zach Martin and Tyler Smith both did not practice on Thursday for the Cowboys
Starting point is 00:19:41 Tristan worse was limited for the Bucs Toronto Arnstead not a surprise not practice on Thursday We'll keep an eye on his statusorse was limited for the Bucks. Tron Arnstead, not a surprise, did not practice on Thursday. We'll keep an eye on his status for the Dolphins as they take on the Packers. Patriots, excuse me. Ben Powers, the guard for the Broncos, was still limited in practice on Thursday. And Trent Williams did not practice on Thursday, but I'm sure it was more of a rest day for him
Starting point is 00:19:59 as they take on the Packers this week. It could be really bad for San Francisco if they don't have Trent Williams or Brock Purdy. So keep an eye on that for the 49ers. Also, Nick Bosa dealing with an injury as well as we look at the defensive injuries. So Bosa did not practice on Thursday also. Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack, and Derwin James were all limited for the Chargers. Roquan Smith, we spent a lot of time talking about this, what the run defense looks like
Starting point is 00:20:18 for the Ravens with or without Roquan. He did not practice as they have the Monday night game. So keep an eye on that heading into Saturday with the final injury report. Jair Alexander did not practice on Thursday dealing with his knee injury. Jack Jones and Nate Hobbs did not practice for the Raiders. And Jacory and Bennett. All three cornerbacks, you're right. Three cornerbacks did not practice for the Raiders.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So that could be good news for Bo Nix and Cortland Sutton and maybe Devon Vela if you need a desperation flex option. He has 10 or more PPR points each of his last two games. Will Anderson was limited for the Texans. Legerius need to not practice for the Titans. Clays Campbell's having a fantastic season for the Dolphins. He did not practice on Thursday and Dexter Lawrence was limited for the Giants, but Kavon Thibodeau did practice in full. Keep an eye on the Giants defensive line injuries because that could actually be a sneaky DST based on the Dall- the Bucks offensive line, especially if worst does not go. One kicker note to be a up to date on is Austin Siebert again remain limited in practice on Thursday dealing with
Starting point is 00:21:15 the hip injury. So keep an eye on that because he has been a great fantasy kicker so far this season. All right. One question for each game. We got Tampa Bay and the Giants. Dave, I'll start with you. Mike Evans after a three game layoff or Malik neighbors playing with Tommy DeVito, who do you like better? Evans running right back in his arms as a must start. Number one fantasy wide receiver. I'll give you a, my favorite stat of the game of the week. This is courtesy of Heath Cummings from our show on Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Mike Evans needs to average 95 yards per game over his final seven games to get his 11 straight season of 1000 yards receiving his high so far this year in a game is 94 yards receiving. So he needs to not only have his best game of the season every game on average for the rest of the year, but we know how these late season pushes have gone for him. So hopefully it starts. I wouldn't bet against him. Yeah, I would not bet against him either, especially without Chris Goblin. We'll talk about it.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Where's the Giants rank in yards per game to wide receivers? You can look that up when we get to the game. So let's go San Francisco and Green Bay Heath. Which Packers receiver do you trust the most? Christian Watson, Jayden Reed, Romeo Dobbs, Dontevi Wicks. I do not trust a Packers wide receiver, but Jayden Reed is the highest ranked.
Starting point is 00:22:27 I think I have Reed Watson and Romeo Dobbs all projected within 10 spots in my wide receiver rankings between wide receiver. They're all number three wide receivers. But Reed is a good number three. Watson is a boom bus number three and Dobbs is a bad number three. Looking forward to breaking down that game in a little bit just based on how the San Francisco secondary will try and defend these guys.
Starting point is 00:22:52 Dallas and Washington, Dave, can you trust both commanders running backs? Brian Robinson Jr. knows my starter of the week. Austin Eckler has been fantastic really with and without Robinson over the last month, but can you trust both of them taking on Dallas? I think the only game script that goes against Robinson is if the Cowboys build a lead
Starting point is 00:23:09 and the commanders have to play from, I can't even finish the sentence. Now, Brian Robinson's gonna get a good amount of work. We can get into some of those stats that I love about Brian Robinson when we get to the game, but yes, start. And Eklers is in that number three running back, maybe low end, number two, running back and full PPR kind of canoe, just the type of guy that you're hoping
Starting point is 00:23:31 can get four catches, total 70 yards, something like that. And you're lucky in these scores. Uh, I actually have Eklers ranked ahead of Chuba Hubbard, Tony Pollard, and DeAndre Swift as of now. So I like the setup for both commanders running backs. Arizona and Seattle. Heath, who is the best pass catcher in this game? Factoring in Trey McBride.
Starting point is 00:23:50 You could throw in Noah Fant if you want to also, but the Cardinals tight end and both teams receivers. Who do you like the best? I do not want to throw Noah Fant in. I will go with DK Metcalf, but I do have he and JSN pretty close. I think there's like five must start pass catchers in this game or at least four. So but yeah, it's it's DK.
Starting point is 00:24:13 I'm curious to get your take on Metcalf coming up later in the show because the numbers against this defense are not good for him and not good for number one wide receivers lately. So the history is not good. But I'm a little nervous about DK after doing some research in this game. Minnesota and Chicago, Dave, are we ready to trust DJ Moore again after his best game since week six in the first game with Thomas Brown?
Starting point is 00:24:35 Adam pointed out to me last night that his A-dot last week was under one yard. So he got a lot of short screens. Bears did what I thought they were gonna do and that's simplify the offense for Caleb Williams. And if they do that again, yes, that would theoretically help DJ Moore as a number three receiver, particularly in full PPR. That's about as far as I'm willing to trust them. All right. So we'll break down that game as well as the Bears and the Vikings meet each other for this big NFC North Showdown. Last game here for our one question for every game, Heath, Cooper Cup or Puka Nakua as the
Starting point is 00:25:09 Eagles and Rams meet up? I'm going to go with Puka Nakua. Again, you're probably starting both of them, but I do think that Puka, a little bit more ability to create explosive plays. Cup is closer to him in full PPR because of the targets and the catches, but I'll take Puka. It's a brutal, brutal matchup, so we'll see if these two stud receivers can come through. And I'm curious if anybody wants to post in the chat, please hit the like button, we would
Starting point is 00:25:32 appreciate it. Do you have both Rams receivers on any of your fantasy teams? I do in one 10-team league where we had some IR issues. I think there was maybe one IR spot for every team and somebody dropped Cooper Cup early in the season and I had Pukunakua in my one IR spot so I picked him up and so now I have to make that decision every week with league neighbors and Devontae Adams the three receiver league with a flex So trying to decide if I want to play both Rams receivers every week has been fun Let's get into the games here. We'll start with Tampa Bay and the Giants the stat of the game here
Starting point is 00:26:03 We already got I went over it I'll repeat it again. Mike Evans needs to average 95 yards per game in his final seven games to reach 1,000 yards receiving for the 11th year in a row. As Heath said, don't bet against him based on how things have gone. So let's start with the Bucs. You got Baker Mayfield, only two games this season with fewer than 20 fantasy points. Only one of those was without Mike Evans on the field.
Starting point is 00:26:22 That was week three against Denver. The Giants have allowed at least 23.8 fantasy points to two of the past four opposing quarterbacks. So is it just an easy slam dunk Baker Mayfield back in your lineup? I think so top 10 fantasy quarterback good when Evans was out. He should be good again with Evans back in. And, uh, yeah, I think the matchup is favorable as well. And Baker Mayfield is a must start.
Starting point is 00:26:46 I hear some quarterbacks that I have ahead of them that you might, you know, do a double take at Bo Nix, Jared Goff, love golf this week. Uh, Patrick Mahomes is ahead of him. Cause he's taken on Carolina. Justin Herbert's out of them, but that's it guys like Jayden Daniels, Sam Darnold, pretty to 2-11, all behind Baker Mayfield. Welcome back to the top 10, Baker. I'm going to ask Keith this question. Dave, let me fair. Look up what the weather is supposed to be in New Jersey this week. Keith, Adam brought up the
Starting point is 00:27:16 Giants and their pressure rate and how they get to quarterbacks. And now Thibodeau is back along with hopefully a healthy Dexter Lawrence. No worse. Do we have any concern about Baker maybe protected being protected in this game? You know, maybe a little bit and maybe that makes me a little bit more nervous about Mike Evans because he doesn't generally handle the short area targets. If Baker has to get the ball out of his hand quicker, I think he will. It's just going to mean more targets for Kate Otten, more targets for Rashad White and maybe whoever's playing the slot this week for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So if it gives me concern about anybody, it would be Evans more so than Mayfield, but I'm starting both of them.
Starting point is 00:27:56 So just some numbers on Evans for Dave gives the weather report here. He's got three games this season with at least 23.1 PPR points, four games with nine and a half PPR points or less. He's only got one game with more than seven targets, but we know that no god-willing They haven't played he has not played a game yet without Chris Goblin on the field The Giants are 13 and fewest fantasy points allowed supposing wide receivers So it's not the easiest of matchups and you mentioned the slot receiver I would have hoped it's gonna be Jalen McMillan or at least the second receiver You know whether it's gonna line up in the slot or play outside at least gonna be the guy that's second in targets
Starting point is 00:28:23 Did not play in week 10 week not with the hamstring injury No snaps in week 10 did have a full practice after the buy so should be healthy But prior to the by week two games with at least seven targets one of those was the game where both guys got injured that Was against Baltimore and then came back the next game now He had eight targets against Baltimore seven targets the following week So we'll see who he does have a bigger role and then any concern with Kate Otten role and then any concern with Kate Otten because Mike Evans back and the Giants are number one in fewest fantasy points allowed to opposing tight ends only one touchdown allowed to the position. Now they haven't exactly faced murderers row Zach Ertz twice Jake Ferguson once when Dak was healthy
Starting point is 00:28:57 and Pat Fryermuth are the three best tight ends that they faced but Otten now does have the target crunch potentially with Mike Evans back on the field. I think he can still bunk. I think you said you hope Jalen McMillan is the number two wide receiver. I think K.Otten is the number two wide receiver. So he must start tight in. I think I've got him fourth or fifth. So I'd start Bowers, Kelsey, Kittle, McBride over him. That's it.
Starting point is 00:29:19 I almost feel like he's the one who's replaced Chris Godwin. Just that short area safety blankie for Baker May Baker Mayfield. So, uh, there's, there's no way I'm getting away from KDOT. And at this point, there's just way too much upside with them. Weather, uh, 53 degrees, overcast, winds 10 to 20 miles an hour. So maybe we do a check of the weather before the game and just to see how bad that wind is at MetLife Stadium. We know that it can get pretty bad there. I also wanted to point out that on the year, the Giants are giving up an average of 91.2 receiving yards per game just to outside wide receivers. So if Evans is going to get this number, we're looking for 95 yards this week for him to try and get that average to a thousand.
Starting point is 00:30:00 He's going to need a lot of targets and maybe he moves into the slot a little bit more than normal to try and take advantage of the match up there. Let's talk about the Bucs running backs here because I think a lot of people interested in this match up as well. The Giants have a lot of these one running back to score at least 13.1 PPR points in seven games in a row. They haven't done it with both guys in the same backfield doing that, but I don't think a lot of teams have the combination that the Bucs have.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Rashad White scored at least 12 and a half PPR points in four games in a row. He's got at least five catches in three of his last four games and Bucky Irvin scored at least 15.4 PPR points in four of his last five games. And he's got at least three catches in four games in a row with three rushing touchdowns over that span. So Heath, which of the bucks running backs, do you like better? And would you start both this week? They're both low end number two running backs for me. I've got Rashad White, I think maybe a tenth of a point higher than Bucky Irving.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Whoever scores the touchdown is the one that's going to be better. I do think that White's pass catching in full PPR makes him just a little bit better. But yeah, no problem starting with these. I don't think I've downgraded quite as many of the guys who are going to have 15 to 20 touches like the Tony Pollard's, um, as you have. So I don't, maybe don't have them quite as high, but I'd start them over like a Deandre Swift. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Dave. Uh, giants are giving up 5.2 yards per carry. The bucks talked about getting bucking more work and then Sean Tucker's name came up in Liam Cohen's. No, no, no, no, don't do that. I'm thinking that maybe Sean Tucker gets a couple of carries and that's it and then the rest of it goes with Bucky and Rashad White. We've seen Bucky just look better as
Starting point is 00:31:37 a runner than Rashad White, but White has played more near the goal line. Certainly can do a little bit more in the passing game. That's what his experience says. Buc-ee's caught some passes too, but I think that you could start either one of them as a low end number two fantasy running back. I agree with Heath. I like Buc-ee better in non PPR.
Starting point is 00:31:55 I like Rashad White better in full PPR, but they're both back to back in that 22 to 24 range in my running back rankings. Very positive schedule coming up for the buck. So hopefully this is the start of a strong finish for both of these guys. Or maybe if you just want to see one separate from the other, then you have to at least have one you can get at least one running back. That's a must start guy and maybe one that's a flex. But if you needed a quarterback, would you try and
Starting point is 00:32:19 buy low on Baker in the next 48 hours because of that schedule? You certainly can. I know how many people's trade deadlines have not passed yet, but if you need a quarterback and the Baker manager found somebody to replace him last week when he was on a buy or had somebody already, then sure, that's a good option to go get. But I think a lot of people know getting Mike Evans back, the price tag has certainly gone up a little bit by comparison to the last couple of weeks. The Giants, there's really two must start options or maybe start options depending on how you view Tyrone Tracy But Malik neighbors and and Tracy in terms of Tommy DeVito
Starting point is 00:32:52 He started six games the Giants last season scored at least 17 and a half fantasy points in three of them So not a bad option in Super flex in two quarterback leagues the Bucs are number one in most fantasy points allowed to the position I went back through and looked at all of his games from last season and Saquon Barkley was great in two of them, was good in another one, so had some mediocre performances there, but he did get Dallas when Dallas obviously was a great defense. He struggled against the Patriots. I think their run defense last year was still relatively good. He struggled a little bit against, I didn't put who they played in this game, bit against New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:33:30 And the receivers, he had a couple of good games from Wondell Robinson, a couple of good games from different outside receivers. So Jaylen Hyatt had a good game, Darryl Slayton had a couple of good games. Daniel Bellinger was the lead tight end at that point. He didn't really do very much. So I don't know if you're looking at Theo Johnson. So just in terms of the guys he was throwing to, it was kind of a mixed bag. He only had one game over 30 pass attempts in those six starts.
Starting point is 00:33:52 So we'll see if maybe the volume ticks up a little bit here. And Dave has noted that this is a better offensive line that DeVito will play behind by comparison to last year and certainly did not have a playmaker like Malik Nabors in the passing game, but a little bit of a downgrade, obviously from the running back perspective. So Heath, what do you think about Tyrone Tracy this week? He scored at least 14 PPR points in four or five games this season where he's had double digits and carries Tampa Bay's number five and most fantasy points allowed to the position. He's a must start running back with just this little hint of I hope the bye week was long enough for everybody to
Starting point is 00:34:27 forget about the fact that he dropped a pass that turned into an interception and fumbled the game away. Like he might be one mistake away from Devin Singletary playing a couple of series in a row, but fantastic matchup, been very efficient as a rusher. They probably want to run the ball a little bit more now that they've got the veto playing quarterback should be a borderline top 12 guy. Just a little bit of risk in the back of my head and Barkley had in the six starts with the veto again, different player, but at least three catches in 123. Three of the six starts.
Starting point is 00:35:05 So hopefully we see a little bit more work in the passing game for Tracy by comparison to what Daniel Jones was doing. And I think one thing I think we should just bring up is you can't compare Tommy DeVito stats this year, even past attempts per game to Daniel Jones this year, because the Giants, Brian Dable wasn't calling plays last year, the Giants were much, much, much more run heavy no matter who
Starting point is 00:35:28 was playing quarterback last year than they have been this year. Jones is averaging 34 attempts per game last year. I'm not even sure he was averaging 30. So I think DeVito throws it more than he did in those games last year. And 34 would be the season high for DeVito or at least the games that he started. So that would be interesting to see if He is gonna be consistently above 30 past temps and again if he keeps the job You know drew lock was a little confused why he was not given the starting opportunity So we'll see how things go for the Giants
Starting point is 00:35:57 They just sent him a gif of a tank when he asked why Dave give me your thoughts on Malik neighbors and Wanda Robinson. You know, clearly more attention is going to be paid toward neighbors. He hasn't scored touchdown since week three and he's been 10.8 PPR points or less in two of his past three games. Are we sure that he's safe with to Vito? I think he's safe as a number two receiver. Dave your volume, your volume is gone.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Dave just disappeared. It's like the first the Sun blocks out his face and Now something's blotted out as Mike Try again there got me now No, why don't you log out log back in and hopefully that fix it? All right He give me your thoughts on Malik neighbors and Wanda Robinson Robinson hasn't scored touchdown since week five and ten point one PPR points Or less than five games in a row. I'm I'mik neighbors as a must start top 12 wide receiver. Tommy DeVito could be so bad
Starting point is 00:36:51 that I have to change that after this week, but if when you compare DeVito last year to Jones last year, DeVito was more efficient as a passer. So I haven't downgraded neighbors because of the quarterback change. I would view Wondale Robinson as a number three wide receiver. He's going to be completely dependent on how much the giants need to pass. Cause I do think, um, much lower intended air yards per attempt for DeVito last year, he does throw a lot of short area targets that should be good for one Dale Robinson. But if he's, if DeVito is throwing 28, 29 passes, that's not going to matter because one Dale Robinson needs nine or 10 targets to be good, um, right If Devito is throwing 28, 29 passes, that's not going to matter because Wondell Robinson
Starting point is 00:37:25 needs nine or 10 targets to be good. Right around wide receiver 30 for me in full PPR, much, much worse in half and none. He's got five targets or less in two of his past three games. So we'll see what happens there. And then Theo Johnson will start to make some plays prior to their bye week. 7.7 PPR points each of his two games
Starting point is 00:37:41 against Washington and Carolina. And over that span, seven catches, 88 yards and a touchdown on 12 targets. Tampa Bay is number five in most fantasy points allowed to opposing tight ends. So for me, I looked at it this week. Scoonmaker as a good one week replacement to Davion Sanders. If you wanted a one week replacement and maybe something more just based on the matchups coming up. And then Theo Johnson was kind of the third desperation play at tight end.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Maybe DeVito does give him some more opportunities to make plays as the Giants try to find out if Theo Johnson could be a playmaker for them going into 2025. Alright we'll take a quick break right now we're gonna get a lot faster on the games but a lot more into the last five games that we're covering here and hopefully Dave's mic is working here on Fantasy Football Day. Dave you good? No. No. No. that's not great but yep well it's a good thing you uh it's a good thing you joined us today he uh all right can you imagine Jamie can you imagine it was the one man podcast for the rest of the friday slate that would have been it would have been really entertaining yeah it would have Friday sleep that would have been really entertaining.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Yeah, it would have been good. We would have been really happy with Adam Azer. Alright, start of the game between the 49ers and the Packers. Christian McCaffrey hasn't scored a touchdown in the two games that he's played this season. The last time he went two games in a row without a touchdown was weeks 11 and 12 in 2022. So hopefully finds the end zone this season that was early in his tenure with the 49ers after the trade from Carolina. So we don't see this very often for Christian McCaffrey. Hopefully it's not three games in a row. We told you about Brock Purdy. Dave is going to hopefully come back and give us some Brandon Allen stats,
Starting point is 00:39:14 but he's got three games in a row, at least 20.4 fantasy points. Heath assuming he plays and he's fine. Is he just a must start quarterback against Becker's? Yeah, I, I'm probably going to downgrade him a little bit. If they tell us that he can't get through Friday's practice, like if he's, if he really is not able to practice fully this week, then I think you have to view him as more of a low end number one.
Starting point is 00:39:36 I can't imagine I'm going to get him outside of my top 12 cause I don't really have 12 quarterbacks that I like right now I've got pretty sixth. The guys I have ahead of them are Lamar, Jaylen Jaden Daniels, Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield. There I think you could consider Jordan Love over him. You could consider Patrick Mahomes or Bo Nix or Jared Goff. I'm probably not going to drop him much lower than that, but I will drop him a little bit if it's another partial practice. I kind of wonder if maybe like maybe we can have Debo stay a little closer to the line of scrimmage and do the things that he's good at instead of running 15 yards down field and getting targets if pretty shoulder hurts.
Starting point is 00:40:11 All right. Something to keep an eye on there as well as Dave's microphone. So Dave, can we hear you? Can you hear me? No, you can't hear a word I'm saying, but it's the quietest mic, like it's so faint. It's like a, you'm saying. Well, it can, but it's the quietest mic. Like it's self-maint. It's like you're whispering. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:27 One second. All right. You keep working on it. Hello. Hello. There he is. Why didn't you turn his mic on? Hey, I blame the entire solar system.
Starting point is 00:40:36 All right. Dave, you got those Brandon Allen stats? Yes. So here's what we've got from Brandon Allen. This is career numbers. It's a 56.7% completion rate. Heath, you don't need to tell me that that's bad. 3.8% touchdown rate, 2.3% interception rate,
Starting point is 00:40:55 6.1 yards per attempt. I'm looking at the career touchdowns he's had. Three of them have gone to tight ends, one to a running back. Everything else has been wide receivers and typically it's been big wide receivers. T Higgins, AJ Green, Cortland Sutton, Tyler Boyd, Auden Tate. Remember Auden Tate?
Starting point is 00:41:12 That dude was big. So that, that's the 32nd profile of Brandon Allen. And it makes me think that this isn't a good development whatsoever for anybody in San Francisco. Yeah. development whatsoever for anybody in San Francisco. Yeah. I think you can add like, I don't know if it's a 10% increase or a 20% increase or a 30% increase, but did you watch Jimmy Garoppolo on the Raiders? Did you watch Nick Mullins? Like he didn't have a couple of good games last year, but when he was in Cleveland and played a game, it was absolutely awful. Like
Starting point is 00:41:41 there was a huge difference in playing in Shanahan system and playing in anyone else's system. It's a good point. But let's hope that Brock Purdy is out there and so far they're optimistic that he's going to play and it would be very good for all the past catchers involved. So let's talk about the three main past catchers here. Joanne Jennings, Debo Samuel, George Kittle. So Jennings has been awesome in the two games since he's returned 17 catches, 184 yards in the touchdown on 22 targets, at least 16.3 PPR points in each of those games
Starting point is 00:42:07 against Tampa Bay and Seattle. Debo struggled a little bit 6.1 PPR points last week against the Seahawks only one receiving touchdown this season which happened to be week six against Seattle but he scored 12.6 PPR points to two of his last three games and he does have seven targets he does have seven targets or less in six games a row which isn't encouraging. George K Uh, George Kittle just been a stud, uh, Green Bay's number 11 and fantasy points allowed to tight ends and he scored at least 14 and a half PPR points in six games in a row with seven touchdowns on the season. So Dave, when you look at these three guys are two of them easy and one's a
Starting point is 00:42:37 little bit challenging with Diba. Well, I mean, it comes down to the quarterback first and foremost. And, and assume that pretty is okay. I mean, that's also part of the problem is's assume Purdy's fine. And assume that Purdy's okay. I mean, that's also part of the problem is that if Purdy, he needs to get in like a full practice and every reporter out of San Francisco says he looks fine, he's good to go. Like that's what I need to hear to not be scared
Starting point is 00:42:56 even a little bit about starting these guys. But Debo has me scared. He hasn't been putting up numbers like we're used to seeing. I know that like 12 PPR points, if that's the range that we're putting them in, then I want to rank them accordingly. That's a number three receiver. Joann Jennings has been getting awesome targets,
Starting point is 00:43:12 11 each of his last two games. He's had at least 16 PPR points each of his last two games. I'm starting to warm up to him as the type of wide receiver that can get me 15 PPR points and maybe even nine points in a non PPR league. And Jair Alexander doesn't play and he's got a PCL injury right now. He might end up being Jennings. I mean, could end up being a top 12 type of fantasy wide receiver. It sounds silly, but he's just been bawling out the last couple of weeks and I'm kind of buying into him winning with physicality, making plays after the catch, not a burner, not anywhere close to the speed of Brandon Iuke,
Starting point is 00:43:50 but somebody who's getting relied on in this offense. George Kittle coming back, obviously is a must start tight end. That doesn't matter whether it's Alan or Purdy under center, but that's kind of how I view this passing game and no interest in Ricky Pierce all obviously, just until we see a little bit more on the bench. Yeah. Last week was a big let down. It was good against Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 00:44:10 That was the concern. It was Tampa Bay. And no, no George Kittle last week to see him not perform. Well, it was, was a little frustrating for the Packers. You got Jordan love, Heath. You touched on this a little bit in your, your purdy ranking. Is he safe because he's got three games in a row without multiple passing touchdowns and one touchdown in three interceptions in his past three games. And that was against Jacksonville, Detroit and Chicago. San Francisco's number seven and
Starting point is 00:44:35 fewest fantasy points allowed to opposing quarterbacks, but Nick Bosa may not play dealing with the hip injury. So is love just a set and forget a quarterback or would you play Bo Nicks over him? Would you play, um, Justin Herbert over him? Like where are we at with, uh, with, with Jordan love right now? I've got basically him and my homes and Nick's, um, let me, they're all ranked as top 10 quarterbacks. I'm probably just starting Jordan love, but I think if, if you wanted to play Nick's over him, especially in a four point per pass touchdown league, I could understand that. There's a little bit of context to the Jordan Love struggles, right? I mean, we had the injury and we had the...
Starting point is 00:45:13 What's that? The groin injury? Right. And we had, I think Chicago, you talk about a good San Francisco is against quarterback. Chicago has been the best team against quarterbacks this year. So I still view him pretty much as a must start quarterback even in a bad matchup. All right, so if both says out, that will certainly help. Josh Jacobs again, limited in practice
Starting point is 00:45:30 with the quad injury. He scored at least 12 PPR points in six games in a row. No concern there. He's a low end number one, high end number two running back for all of us this week. Let's talk about the receivers. So Dave, he'd said he doesn't trust any of them and they're all number three receivers,
Starting point is 00:45:43 which I think is the right route to take You got jayden reed He scored nine point eight ppr points or less than three of his last four games six targets or less than six games in a Row christian watson had the big game last week, but he has uh, he scored 10 or more Uh, he's only it's only the second time all season where he scored 10.3 ppr points or more and only has two touchdowns this season Romeo dobs has scored a combined nine and a half PPR points in his past two games and that was against Detroit and Chicago. And then on Tavion Wicks has no catches in his last two games. So I don't think anybody's factoring him in, but the three other receivers
Starting point is 00:46:13 read Watson Dobbs, how do you feel about them against San Francisco, which is number 10 and fewest fantasy points allowed to the position. Yeah. And to that point, just five wide receivers have 15 or more PPR points against the 49ers this entire season. Three of the five have been in the past six games and two of them have been slot players with volume. That's Jackson Smith and Jigba, that's CD Lamb. So could this be a game where Jayden Reed gets a lot of volume and ends up being just as good as those types of receivers? I would bet
Starting point is 00:46:43 against that. I don't think he'll get a lot of targets. I think the targets get spread around quite a bit, but I do think that if Bosa plays and if he's right, Jordan loves, got to get the ball out quick. That would help both Jane Reed and Romeo Dobbs get some extra targets. Then they might normally, uh, if Nick Bosa is out, then that I think kicks down the door for Christian Watson to get some deep targets again, whether he can catch them all for 150 yards, like he did last week in Chicago remains to be seen, but he would be like a boom bus type of number
Starting point is 00:47:14 three receiver. Uh, there's a whole range of those guys still top 36, but not anywhere close to top 24 as it stands now. Reed is my highest rank. He's a borderline number two wide receiver. Packers receiver or Calvin Ridley? Ridley. Ridley.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Packers receiver or DJ Moore? I have Reid ahead of Moore. I do too. Okay, I'm trying to think of anybody else in that range. Jacoby Myers or Packers receiver? I'm almost positive that I've got Reid ahead of Myers. Reid ahead of Myers. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:51 I have Ridley ahead of all of them. I have Myers ahead of all of them. And I have, I think, Reid ahead of DJ Moore as well. Tucker Craft, no catches last week. Anybody have any interest in Tucker Craft? 49ers, number six, and fewest fantasy points allowed to the position. Tough to trust. I know. I mean, like I said earlier in the week, there were three streaming
Starting point is 00:48:11 tight ends in my top 12 this week. It was a great week for adding a tight end off the waiver wire. There's no reason you should still have to start. Tucker craft. There isn't a tight end on the year that has more than 9.3 half PPR points against San Francisco. That includes Travis Kelsey. That includes Jake Ferguson. This is, this is an easy 9.3 half PPR points against San Francisco. That includes Travis Kelsey. That includes Jake Ferguson.
Starting point is 00:48:27 This is this is an easy one. I think and Kate Otten who was as hot as they can come, you know, going into last week only eight and a half PPR points or less for all three of those guys in the last four games. So they've been doing a great job against the position. All right. Dallas is at Washington. We can start with the Cowboys. There's really not much to say here because nobody's trusting Cooper Rush
Starting point is 00:48:45 He did have 18.4 fantasy points on 55 attempts against Washington and we may see Trey Lance getting some playing time So just keep that in mind for super flex and two quarterback leagues Rico Daddle, so he's combined for 14 PPR points in his past two games Five catches for nine yards on eight targets in the starts with Cooper Rush. And both guards are hurt for Dallas. Is it just avoid him at all costs right now? You would like to. I think anybody who's starting Rico Dowdle is doing so out of necessity, not out of one, two,
Starting point is 00:49:14 but there weren't any waiver wire running backs that I want to start over him. So like if you're in that stuck position, there's not somebody I could go find that I want to use. So you'd start Rico over Abdullah if both Raiders are out. I don't really have much confidence that Amir Abdullah is going to get double digit rush attempts in a game. That's fair. If we're going to go based on that, then sure, Dowdle would be the guy to go with. But I think the commander's defense smashes. This is Dan going up against
Starting point is 00:49:45 his former team. We've seen this time and time again, where the defensive coordinator, old defensive coordinator comes back to take on a team. He crushes them and now he's going to face them without their starting quarterback and potentially without two starting guards, one of them an all-timer in Zagmar. And they're tied in. And they're tied in. And they're tied in, yeah. I don't want to start him. I want to be clear.
Starting point is 00:50:08 I'm not excited about him. I do have a duel of one notch out of Doudle, but it's more because I don't want to, I really don't want to start Doudle. Yeah, I would start at Doudle just based on his hopeful role in the passing game because for whatever reason that's disappeared with Cooper Rush. You would think that would be something that they'd lean into a little bit more. So for me, I would go with that duo, but I think a lot of people probably share your sentiment Heath, that you know, just it's one situation is bad, the other one's worse,
Starting point is 00:50:32 and just do you want to make a transaction if you don't have to. So Dave, to your point, you know, Dan Quinn knowing this team, CD Lam is banged up, you know, hopefully he's gonna play, but he was downgraded from Wednesday to Thursday, which is never a good sign. We may see Trey Lance,
Starting point is 00:50:44 which I don't think is gonna help CD lamb and look he's been good in the two games without Cooper rush if he catches the touchdown in Dave's living room or if he You know just does what he did last week with 18.6 PBR points against the Texans He's got 22 targets in the two games He has a great history against Washington scored five touchdowns in his last four games against the commanders and at least 15.3 PPR points in each of those games. But if they know him and they know the team and the quarterback's bad and the offensive line is bad, is it just easy to say CD Lam's a must start receiver? Or do we have some concerns? There's concerns, but how far do you move CD Lam down knowing that he can still get
Starting point is 00:51:21 double digit targets and still piece together close to 15 PPR points. I mean, do you move them down behind the likes of Quentin Johnson, Calvin Ridley? I think he's got a little bit more upside to that, at least in full PPR. Do you move them down behind Malik neighbors and Josh Downs? Now you can make the case for that because those guys have the upside to be better than what CD Lamb has been. So I think he's in that mid wide receiver to range. I hope he's okay. I hope he's okay. So just keep an eye on the on the back injury. So
Starting point is 00:51:57 like we said a couple times, you know, do they risk him playing at less than 100%? You know, he's going to be a good soldier and go out there and do what he can to support his team. We saw that with the shoulder injury that he suffered in the game that got hurt and he still played, but you know, being downgraded during the week, that's a little concerning if he does miss any interest in Jaylen Tolbert, Turpin or cook if he plays, or it's just, I'm avoiding all Cowboys no matter what in the receiving court. It's too risky for me. You know, you know who I wouldn't mind though, if I'm looking for a cheap 10 PPR points is Schoonmaker. I think he can get you. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:52:29 I'm starting Schoonmaker, the top 12 guy with Thor without Liam. So six catches, 56 yards. 56 yards on 10 targets last week for him. That was after Ferguson got hurt. Just make sure Ferguson is out before we start Schoonmaker. He isn't the concussion protocol but does not seem like he's going to clear since he was put in the concussion protocol on a Monday night game. All right for the commanders this is a bounce back spot for Jane Daniels 15.4 fantasy points in each of his last two games. You know not playing to the level that we know for Jane Daniels only 23 rushing yards in his last two games but Dallas is number six and most fantasy points allowed to opposing quarterbacks for the last five have scored at least 24 points.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Um, and Jalen hurts and Brock Purdy each ran for at least 56 yards and a touchdown against Dallas in the last four games. So is this a easy smash spot for Jane Daniels? They might score 50. Like, I mean, you've got division rival that has beat up on you for decades. You've got Dan Quinn revenge game. Like we've got all the narratives for them to just go put up a huge and they're 10 and the Cowboys are terrible defensively.
Starting point is 00:53:32 So yeah, I'm starting all the commanders start Daniels, start both running backs, start Terry McLoran, start Zach Hertz. All right. So they're going to give us some, some fun Brian Robinson stats, but just stay on Terry McLoran for a second Heath, because it's been an interesting ride for him the last couple of weeks, because the targets have been somewhat down. He was productive two games ago,
Starting point is 00:53:51 but last week he was miserable clearly with the matchup against Philly with one catch for 10 yards. You going right back to him? I'm going right back to him. He's a number two, he's not a number one for me, but I'm going right back to Terry McClure. I think, and he might just be one of those guys that, yes, you know, that there's a really low floor on a weekly basis because they might go score 50 and
Starting point is 00:54:10 just score seven rushing touchdowns. Um, but he's got the upside to score 25 points any week. And I'm just not going to sit that guy. Noah Brown's got six targets, at least six targets in three of his last four games and Zach Ertz is coming off a pretty impressive stretch. We know what he did in his revenge game last week against Philadelphia, six catches, 47 yards in the touchdown. And that's now 14 PPR points in three of his last five games.
Starting point is 00:54:32 So is Ertz a must start tight end Heath? Top 10. Um, I was talking about being pretty excited about streaming Luke Schoonmaker. I would not stream him over Zach Ertz. Um, so I, I, I'd start Ertz over Mark Andrews, I'd start Ertz over Dallas Goddard, I'd start Ertz over TJ Hockinson. What about Disley and Johnna Smith? I have Johnna and Disley out of Ertz.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Okay, so I do as well. I think it's interesting to see how those guys are performing, but Ertz can obviously have a big game here. All right, Dave, so Brian Robinson Jr. is the start of the week. Austin Echler is coming off an impressive stretch, 17.3 PPR points in three games in a row. He's got eight games this season with 10.2 PPR points. Give us your breakdown of the commander's back. Well, first of all, I think Bryan Robinson, fantasy wise, he's never had a great game against Dallas, but I think he may know that and he'll be ready to go and attack them and finally have a big game against America's team. He has 16 or more carries in five of
Starting point is 00:55:23 his past seven games. The two games he didn't do it in, one was a colossal blowout. He had 13.1 fantasy points, didn't catch any balls in that game. On the other one he left early. So I think he consistently gets north of 15 carries week after week. He scored in six of eight games this year
Starting point is 00:55:40 and Dallas has run defenses allowed at least 18 PPR points to a running back in four other past five games. Saquon Barkley somehow, some way was limited by the Cowboys in week 10, uh, 4.8 yards per carry to running backs in those five, 4.6 on the season. No matter how you slice it, this is not a good run defense. And Brian Robinson should get the opportunity to have a big game. I really liked this start of the week.
Starting point is 00:56:02 I think he is a number one fantasy running back, a top 12 guy for week number 12. I think I'm the low guy on Robinson. I still have him ranked as a starter, but I should probably at least explain it. It's really simple. Adam said it on yesterday's show. He has two targets in his last four games.
Starting point is 00:56:19 Like he asked to score a rushing touchdown or it's hard to have a great day. He'll probably score a rushing touchdown That's what I'm hoping for and it wouldn't be surprised You know to your blowout theory that he scores a couple times, you know, right and if you are desperate You know, we've seen in a couple of the commander's blowouts this season Jeremy McNichols, you know may get some I'm starting him in a league Some fourth quarter run, you know just we get six teams on a buy, you know So we'll see how things go there
Starting point is 00:56:44 But hopefully Brian Robinson, Jr. And Austin Eckler, again, a lot of work in the passing game from last week against Philadelphia that boosted his stat line, but the two games prior was without Robinson. So I don't mind. Eckler as a flex, the Cowboys have shown that they can give up some receptions to running backs this season. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Next game, we got Arizona at Seattle. Stat of the game for this is seven opposing number one receivers in a row against the Seahawks have scored at least 16 and a half PPR points including four scoring at least 20 points seven points that is a Marvin Harrison Jr. stat hopefully that continues now they are getting healthy in the secondary for Seattle but number one receivers lately have crushed the Seahawks defense and hopefully Marvin Harrison comes through so we'll start with the Cardinals in their passing game Kyler Murray easy. I don't think anybody's concerned
Starting point is 00:57:26 about this matchup, correct? Correct. He's averaged 24 fantasy points per game in his last six games against Seattle. James Connor, well, I will talk about the running games in a second. Harrison, are we confident in Marvin Harrison Jr.? Is this going to be a big game for him?
Starting point is 00:57:41 Is he going to live up to that stat and keep that streak going for eight games in a row? I'll say yeah. I've got him. I don't have him ranked as a top 12 receiver. And if you're going to score over 16 PPR points, that is top 12 receiver range. Um, but he's, he's just outside, let's call him a top 18 fantasy wide receiver, maybe even top 15, because I think that the Cardinals can come out of the by and continue to reshape how they use him. That's the thing that we complained about the most with Marvin Ayrson at the beginning of the year was too many downfield targets, not enough short area targets,
Starting point is 00:58:13 too many downfield routes, vertical routes, not enough horizontal routes. They've started to use them a little bit more in breaking out breaking routes. And I think that that can make a big difference for his target volume and his production. And that's his best way of separating. He doesn't separate with speed. He's not like Malik neighbors in that regard. He's an outstanding route runner and polished on top of it. They should be using them that way and giving them more targets on top of it against the Seahawks. I don't know if there's a defender who can keep up with them. Woolen, Witherspoon, they're good, but I think he can break away from those guys and have himself a pretty good game.
Starting point is 00:58:47 I'm willing to take the chance on it. I just wish there was like some sort of trend. Like I know they have been using them on those routes more recently. It is recent game log is just a sporadic mess. Like it's, it is just look at his yardage in his last five games and it's zero 21 111 34 54. He's, how do you make sense of it? Yeah, I've got my in the projections. He's a number three wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I pushed him up in the rankings to be a number two wide receiver. I don't think I want to sit the upside because the upside is huge and it's a good matchup, but I there. It's not, it's not like we've started to change the way they're using him. And so we're starting to see some consistency in his production. He's got five targets in each of his last two games. And yeah, he still has over 16 PPR points in one of those two. I think when you look at his game log, if he doesn't score, he stinks.
Starting point is 00:59:47 And we've seen that he has two games this year with over a hundred yards and he scored in both those games. But I think those, I don't think you're looking for a hundred yards here. I think you're looking for an uptick in targets. And I think you're looking for a touchdown. And I think both those things can happen against Seattle. I think I know the answer to this Marvin Harrison Jr. CD lamb, Dave, you go. Marvin go lamb and you go lamb that's what I thought um Marvin's two highest target games of the season are week two and week three yeah he's he's been at seven targets or less than seven games in a row you know so it's not like we're getting a huge volume of targets and you said it he did have five targets remember that
Starting point is 01:00:23 was the number going into last week's game last game for him was he needed six plus targets to be successful And you know he said oh, we broke the streak he got five targets and had a big game So we'll see what happens moving forward there with him Michael Wilson if you're desperate 26% rostered He has not had a good stretch of games, but his last road game He did have 14.1 PPR points again receivers have had some success against his team and then Trey McBride He's got no receiving touchdowns yet this season which is frustrating uh he scored at least 11.1 ppr points in three games in a row i don't think anybody has a decision of we're not playing uh thisley or john who or schoonmaker over trade mcbride i don't think that matters to anybody but
Starting point is 01:00:58 hopefully this is a breakout spot for him past five games seattle's allowed george kittle in week six kyle pitts in week seven and Dalton Kincaid in week eight to go 13.1 PPR points or more. Kittle missed the rematch last week as we're aware. And the game in between the other by week also during this stretch of six weeks was the Rams game where Davis Allen did not do very much. Colleen Parks did not do very much.
Starting point is 01:01:20 So tight ends have had some success against this defense. They are getting Jenkins back in their secondary. So we'll see if that matters, but hopefully this is a blowup spot for Trey McBride and then James Connor. Any reservations? I mean, Seattle has been somewhat okay against the run, um, recently, but, uh, Connor, I like what I saw in week 10 when he had five catches for 80 yards. Hopefully that's something that we see a little bit more of is, is Connor
Starting point is 01:01:42 and easy just said it and forget it this week. Mustard. I think it is 14.6 or more PPR points to three of the last four running backs at Seattle's taken on 13 plus to six running backs in their past seven games the Niners running backs Combined for 28 non PPR points against them way back when I I don't think this is a great run defense at all All right, let's go to the Seattle side of things Anybody want to start Geno Smith? No, he's a QB too.
Starting point is 01:02:11 Start him into the QB. He's a bi-week QB. So his last two games against Seattle last year, 17 points, excuse me, against Arizona, 17.8 fantasy points, 24.4. He scored 15.7 points or less in three of his last four games. And here's what Arizona has done against quarterbacks recently.
Starting point is 01:02:26 We know some of these guys have been hot at times, certainly lately, in terms of Justin Herbert and Tua Tunga-Vai Loa. But they faced Herbert, Tua, Caleb Williams, and Aaron Rodgers. And all four of those guys have scored 16.7 fantasy points or less. I don't want to trust Geno Smith against his team. It just feels like it's gonna be tough. We'll talk about the passing game now, the receivers. So you got DK Metcalf and Jackson Smith in the jig bus Both guys I think are gonna be ranked as starters. I know they are for me. I'm assuming for both you guys well
Starting point is 01:02:54 Yes, so Metcalf 14 PPR points last week in his first game back from the two-game masses with a knee injury Here's what number one receivers have done against Arizona last three games Obviously the quarterbacks have not done well. The wide receivers have struggled also. Tyree Kell has the best game, 13.2 PPR points. DJ Moore, 7.3 points. Garrett Wilson and Devante Adams, both exactly 9.1 PPR points. And no type, no, no receiver has scored a touchdown against this defense in four games in a row. That's the Chargers, the Dolphins, the Bears and the Jets. Here's what makes me a little bit skittish about DK Metcalf.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Last five games against Arizona overall. So this is going back over two plus seasons. 17 catches, 170 yards and a touchdown combined in those five games. Only one game over 11 PPR points. They seem to have his number. Is it safe to start DK Metcalf? I'm still starting him.
Starting point is 01:03:44 And I do think it's worth noting noting like he's played one game against this defense with this defensive coordinator. So it was a diff, like it was some of the same guys two and three years ago, but it wasn't the same system. They hire their defensive coordinator at the beginning of last year. So I just can't like they've Arizona's defense has been really good as of late. And if you look at the last four games, they look like, man, you, how is anybody going to be good against them?
Starting point is 01:04:09 And if you look one more game, the Packers wide receivers had four touchdowns and all like four different guys scored 15 fantasy points. So I, I'm a little bit nervous about DK and Jason, but there's six teams on a buy half the good wide receivers in the NFL or hurt. I, they're both must starts for me. And for Jason, we'll just give the numbers on Jason, 17 catches, 290 yards and two touchdowns on 24 targets in his last two games, his last three games, at least 12.9 PPR points or more.
Starting point is 01:04:37 So he's just on fire right now. Um, and he did score 16.3 PPR points against the Cardinals in Seattle last year, if that matters to you so against his defense Heath clearly was a different player for for JSN as well I agree with you difficult to bench them, but Josh Downs or Seattle receiver Dave I've gotten Matt calf over downs. I believe I've done pounds over JSN I've got both Seahawks and the game were over JSN. I've got both Seahawks. And the game where JSN had, it was like four for 63 in a touchdown against the, against Arizona. DK didn't play. That was last year. That's why DK's only
Starting point is 01:05:12 played one game against this. Yeah. He did miss a game against. Sure. Sure. Sure. So what I see with this Cardinals defense is a lot of zone coverage. They don't blitz a lot. Their pass rush really hasn't been that good. They addressed it in the trade with Denver to get Baron Browning and they're getting their first round rookie back, Darius Robinson, whatever good they can bring will help this defense a lot. And Gino isn't as good when he's pressured. He's definitely more aggressive against man coverage than zone coverage. So he's going to need volume.
Starting point is 01:05:43 He's got good volume. It's, it's one of the reasons why I'm okay with JSN and DK. man coverage than zone coverage. So he's going to need volume. He's got good volume. It's, it's one of the reasons why I'm okay with JSN and DK. It feels like the targets have been concentrated to those two guys over the last, well, last week, obviously, but, uh, I don't know if we can really say three or four weeks, but we haven't seen locket in a big role lately. And so I'm thinking slash hoping that it's a lot of targets to Metcalf, a lot of targets to JSN and those two guys kind of just bit by bit put it together to give you at least 15 PPR points each. I don't know if I love them as much in non PPR because
Starting point is 01:06:18 I don't know how many big plays they're going to have against this defense. And Tyler Lockett does have a good history against Arizona. 18 catches, 291 yards and four touchdowns with three games of at least 15.1 PPR points in the last five, but nobody's trusting him. He's got four targets or less in three games in a row. You're not going to start a Seattle tight end. Just keep an eye on if in a desperate, you know, tight end premium league, AJ Barnard, the last two games without fans has gotten you six catches, 42 yards. But fan, if he does return had scored at least 10 and a half ppr points in two or three games prior to the injury are gonna take one final break our producer
Starting point is 01:06:50 Claire is gonna kill me because we're already over an hour Adams gonna murder me when he finds out what the timestamps gonna be for this but we got two more games to go here enough all right last two games are gonna knock these out in less than 10 minutes so we got the Vikings and the Bears the stat of the game that I do one I must have forgot it Bears. The stat of the game that I do on? I must have forgot it. I didn't do a stat of the game for this one. All right. So the Vikings, we got Sam Donald here. So Dave and I had a good discussion on Sam Donald. Heath, I'll let you break the tie. So Dave likes Sam Donald this week taking on the Bears who are number one and fewest fantasy points
Starting point is 01:07:15 allowed to opposing quarterbacks. He has been very good lately, scored at least 22 fantasy points in three of his last four games. But here's what the Bears have done so far this season. Trevor Lawrence in week six is the lone quarterback with multiple touchdowns against the bears and Lawrence Jane Daniels and Jordan love the only three quarterbacks to go over 20 fantasy points against this defense. So are you pro Sam Donald or anti Sam Donald in week number 12? I view him kind of like Gino Smith, a high end QB two that I really don't want to start, um, but there's six teams on a buy, so I might have to.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Listen, Jordan Love just barely got by by the skin of his teeth with a rushing touchdown to get 20 fantasy points against this defense last week. And I think he was a third quarterback all season to do it. So it is the worst matchup for opposing quarterbacks. I would like to sit Sam Darnold. I would rather start Bo Nix. I'd rather start Anthony Richardson. I'm not there yet with Richardson. I'm definitely there with Bo Nix. I'd start Nix over Dornold and he's a low end starter for me. And it's been a little weird with this Bears defense because like they took on Kyler Murray, James Conrad, a monster game. Kyler Murray didn't have to do anything to throw against the Chicago D. But five fantasy points though, that's not having to do anything. That's pretty terrible.
Starting point is 01:08:26 But but it like that situation, I suppose is possible. Like the Bears run defenses in that good. If Aaron Jones can bounce back from what he's been over the last month, then yeah, Aaron Jones could have a monster game and Sam Darnold doesn't do a lot in the game. And he gives you a single digit fantasy points. Last week, Jordan Love got over 20 fantasy points. He also attempted just 17 passes in the game. So there, there haven't been a lot of it.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Have there, or maybe the better question to ask you guys is, have there been examples of quarterbacks with 30 plus pass attempts against Chicago that have had the opportunity to put up big numbers and just didn't because they turn the ball over a lot or they have a lot of classes through third CJ Stroud through 36 passes and scored 16 fantasy points. Trevor Lawrence, Nico didn't Nico was that the game Nico got hurt in or was it a week? No, I got her against Buffalo.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Okay. So, okay. So that's a good example. CJ Stroud went in there against Chicago is a home game. I remember that. I know mixing it. I believe mixing someone who got hurt in that game. It's all coming back to me. But that's a good example of a quarterback who we had high expectations for, who had a lot of
Starting point is 01:09:31 opportunities to put up numbers and then didn't against the Chicago Bears defense. I think Darnold's been playing well enough to warrant use as a top-12 quarterback, 22 or more fantasy points. In three of his past four games, he's the number-nine quarterback in fantasy points per game on the year. He's also attempted at least 32 pass attempts in each of his past three games. That's been in line with Aaron Jones kind of seeing this, this downslide in efficiency and you know how good his pass catchers are. You saw that Jordan Love was beating up Chicago on deep balls last week. Call him lucky, call him fortuitous.
Starting point is 01:10:03 That is definitely something that is in Sam Darnold's bag. I said it on HQ, I'll say it again. If you think Aaron Jones bounces back, then don't trust Sam Darnold. But I think Darnold's got a little bit more upside than a lot of other quarterbacks that are in that 12 to 16 range that you talked about, Eve. And so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt
Starting point is 01:10:20 in a tough matchup, sure. But he's got a good offensive line protecting him and he's played well. I think he deserves credit. He did have over 30 past attempts two games ago against Jacksonville and has a miserable day as well there. And that's certainly not a caliber of defense comparatively to
Starting point is 01:10:34 Chicago. That's absolutely true. He could have a lot of volume and still be Sam Darnold. I just don't want to trust them given the track record of Chicago's defense so far against opposing quarterbacks. You're starting Justin Jefferson doesn't matter what I tell you about stats. Chicago's number one, a few of his fancy points, large receivers, nobody cares. Jordan Addison and TJ Hockeson though, let's talk about those two guys because Addison did tie a season high in targets last week with eight, did leave in the fourth quarter with cramping, but he does have 15.1 PPR points in two of his past three games.
Starting point is 01:11:02 And last year again, Chicago, he did score in one of those matchups. So is Jordan Addison in the streaming or starting conversation in three receiver leagues? Streaming? Streaming slash starting in a three wide receiver league? Yeah he's a low end right in that Romeo Dobbs range of a low end number three wide receiver that you know what if he goes out and catches five passes for 60 yards and scores a touchdown nobody's really gonna be that surprised by it. He's also, we're not going to be that surprised also if he has five fantasy points.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Dave, how do you feel about TJ Hawkinson? Because one great game in the three that he's played, the one great game was against Jacksonville. Ironically enough, the game that Sam Darnall struggled since Hawkinson has returned. Chicago has allowed one touchdown to a tight end so far this season that was Chigokanko in week one. Hold on Trey McBride ran for a touchdown against Chicago so that's too that doesn't count that's I don't think TJ Hockinson is running for a touchdown but what if I liked Arnold I think I do have to at least like Hockinson I don't have to love Addison either way although Addison does have boom bus upside but I think that Hockinson does get a little bit more of an opportunity this week than he did last week.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Certainly can see him lining up against Chicago's linebackers and making some plays. Chicago's been playing with the backup safety. Maybe he lines up against him for a couple of plays. And I don't think this is going to be a blowout for Minnesota. I think that they're actually going to get a fight from Chicago, kind of like Green Bay did last week.
Starting point is 01:12:24 And that's going to lead to volume and Arnold having to throw the ball at least 32 times like we've talked about just like he has in the last few weeks and I think Hockinson sees a decent target share so I do like him as a top. Heath give me your take on Aaron Jones because it's been rough 12.2 PPR points or less in four games in a row but he hasn't scored touchdown since week seven last couple games have been miserable. He had the rib injury against Jacksonville in week 10. And then last week against the Titans, it was just awful 5.3 PPR points.
Starting point is 01:12:53 And that coincides with, I don't know if wanting to get Camakers more work, Jones being hurt, Jones struggling, but Camakers does have at least 12 total touches in each of his last two games. And he caught a touchdown against Tennessee. So is Aaron Jones still a safe number two running back? He's a number two running back.
Starting point is 01:13:07 I think he's more of a low end number two running back. It's a much better matchup for running backs than it is for quarterbacks. And so I've got him, I think at RB 19, there are guys like he, and I don't really have the, like there are guys that I've had the urge to do what you've done and move them down even further, like behind Austin Eckler. I've not really had that urge with Aaron Jones because the matchup is so good. If he's not good in this game, then I'm not sure I'm going to feel good about starting him the rest of the year. So I watched this film last week and he looks fine. Like when you watch him run, there's a night and day difference between him and Cam Akers in terms
Starting point is 01:13:42 of explosiveness and cutting and all that stuff. But for whatever reason, the Vikings were rotating series, especially in the second half, where just, if it's your series, Aaron Jones, you're in. If it's third down, whatever you're in, I shouldn't say third down because there were a bunch of third downs where CJ Ham was in to pass protect. But the reason why Akers scored last week, it wasn't because they used them at the goal line. That was Cam Akers' drive, where he basically played the entire drive for Minnesota. So if they're rotating backs and they continue to do it this week, that hurts the upside of Aaron Jones even more. So I've slowly moved him up actually in my rankings. And I'm not sure if I'm going to keep him as high as I have him. I think he's like around 16 for me. He looks good, but I just don't know.
Starting point is 01:14:28 I don't know if he's going to get a ton of opportunities, especially if Cam Akers is going to continue to rotate drives with him. He does have a great history against the Bears. That's all with Green Bay. Last five games 60 carries, 345 yards, 3 touchdowns, 18 catches 18 catches 208 yards three touchdowns So he's beat them up quite a bit in his career and we'll see if he can do something similar this week All right, we'll do the the Bears quickly and then Dave's got a bounce then we'll finish up with the last game Deandre Swift because nobody's starting Caleb Williams. Just too tough to trust He did have 70 yards rushing the first game with Thomas Brown, but he hasn't scored touchdown since week six
Starting point is 01:15:02 So let's see another productive game for him, but don't love it this week. DeAndre Swift is dealing with the groin injury was limited practice on Thursday. He scored at least 14.2 PPR points in six of his last seven games, but Minnesota's number two in few as fancy points allowed to posing running backs. Only four running backs have scored more than 10 PPR points against Minnesota this season is DeAndre Swift a safe number two running back this week? I don't think he is. Uh, I like how the Vikings run even played each of their last three.
Starting point is 01:15:28 And DeAndre Swift was saved by that long touchdown run last week against Green Bay. And if there's a groin injury on top of it that's been limiting him in practice, it makes me nervous. I wonder how much he'll play. Could he rotate drives with Roshan? So low end number two, running back at best. Roshan is 57 percent roster. Just keep an eye on the injury report for DeAndre Swift.
Starting point is 01:15:49 If he somehow is downgraded and misses practice on Friday or they rule him out, Roshan would be at least a flex option. Did have 10 carries, 3 yards in the touchdown. Last week against the Packers. Heath, give me your take on the Bears receivers. Again, DJ Moore, 13.7 PPR points. Best game for him since week six. Romo Dunze got at least six targets in four games in a row.
Starting point is 01:16:09 He had a good game with Thomas Brown, six for 65 on 10 targets and Kenan Allen's got 31 targets in his last four games, but has been absolutely miserable. Only one game with double digits and PPR points this season. Since their bye week, DJ Moore is third on the team in targets. Last week, first game with a new offensive coordinator, DJ Moore was third on the team. And it's Roma Dunze has been the best Bears wide receiver since week eight. Last week, Roma Dunze was the best Bears wide receiver. I think Roma Dunze might be the best Bears wide receiver. And that's the way I'm ranking it this week.
Starting point is 01:16:39 He and DJ Moore are both number three wide receivers. He and Alan should be. AQ he's really testing the limits of how many targets a wide receiver can see and not be good in fantasy. It's incredible. Um, but you can't start them. Dave final word. Final word is more in Odunze are number three wide receivers and Kenan
Starting point is 01:17:02 Alan in non PPR leagues, I think you can cut them and in non PPR leagues I think you can cut him and in full PPR leagues he's a good bench receiver and a good bye week guy. I had an awesome time hanging with you on the show today. I appreciate what you're doing and good for 12. There you go. All right last game Heath let's fight this quickly. Eagles and Rams, stat of the game, Philadelphia is loud only one touchdown to a wide receiver since week four. That's a span of six go Dak Prescott and Washington last week with Jane Daniel. So Jamar chase the only wide receiver to score double digits in PPR points against the Eagles in their last six games. Are we sure? Are we sure that it's safe to start Cooper cup and Pukinakua? We're not, but there are six teams on a buy and half the good wide receivers in the NFL are hurt. And I'm starting both Cooper cup and Pukinakua. Um, I, I'm just going to start them. I feel like an idiot moron if I set one of
Starting point is 01:18:06 them and they scored 20 fantasy points. Right. But not an easy matchup by any stretch. All right. So we're starting Jalen Hurts. I'm just going to fly through the must start guys. Jalen Hurts, starting Jalen Hurts, starting Saquon Barkley, starting AJ Brown. Hopefully Brown may benefit if Devante Smith does not play. He missed practice on Wednesday and Thursday with the hamstring injury. But what we've seen from AJ Brown is he's not scored a touchdown since week seven and it's been basically a miserable stretch of games for him based on the expectations. 15.9 PPR points against Dallas but 13.4 against the Bengals, 5.6 against Jacksonville, he left that game and 11.5 PPR points last week against Washington.
Starting point is 01:18:39 So hopefully this is a bounce back spot for him. If Devontae Smith does not play, how much more do we like Dallas Goddard? I would move him up. So I've got him behind three streamers right now. I would definitely move him ahead of Luke Skoonmaker. I'd probably move him ahead of Zach Hertz. I think I'd move him ahead of Will Disley. I think he'd be a top eight tight end for me if there was no Devontae Smith.
Starting point is 01:19:00 And look for what it's worth. Goddard now he's benefited with AJ Brown missing time. He's benefited with Devontaeith banged up a little bit He scored at least 10 and a half ppr points in his in four healthy games in a row now He missed a stretch of time during that game that he misses a stretch of games during that time as well But he has been productive did have five catches 61 yards on five targets last week against washington So uh, he's giving you a decent floor and maybe this ceiling, you know Ticks up a little bit if davante smith does play knowing that he's banged up knowing that he struggled the last two games. Would you even consider starting?
Starting point is 01:19:28 I think you have to consider it. He is right in the Christian Watson, Quentin Johnston, Romeo Dobbs range for me, a very low end number three or a high end flex in this offense with the as efficient as they have been throwing the ball. I get any moment he could have a 40 yard receiving touchdown. So he's definitely in consideration, but he's not you can't feel any security about it at all. Last two games again, six catches 43 yards, no touchdowns, only nine targets. So maybe this hamstring injury is bothering him and you know that the Eagles are looking like a strong playoff contender.
Starting point is 01:20:03 They may want to rest him to make sure he's ready for the stretch runs. Just something to keep an eye on there. We'll find out what the Friday practice report is. Check out CBSsports.com for the latest update. All right. So Puganakua-Cooper Cup, their must-start receivers. They've been awesome since coming back. The only game where Pugko was bad was when he threw a punch.
Starting point is 01:20:18 But again, difficult matchup against a very good Eagle secondary. Matthew Stafford, however. So this is one of those situations that I'm going to guess we're probably on the same page. We like the receivers. We don't like the quarterback. So Stafford however, so this is one of those situations that I'm gonna guess we're probably on the same page. We like the receivers, we don't like the quarterback. So Stafford has played well. He does have 21.9 fantasy points in three of his last four games. And he did have 35.8 points last week against New England. He was a monster against the Patriots. But the Eagles number five and fewest fantasy points allowed to pose in quarterback. So just easy sit him, only start him in Super Flex two quarterback leagues.
Starting point is 01:20:41 Yeah, absolutely. Easy sit. And then let's just wrap up here with uh with Kyron Williams because similar Aaron Jones he's in a slump 11.2 PPR points are less than three games in a row and this is a very difficult matchup. The Eagles are number six and fewest fantasy points allowed to opposing running backs just three touchdowns to running backs all season. Now Williams did not have a target against Patriots prior that he caught five passes for 20 yards on six targets against Miami. He also caught five passes for 19 yards in a touchdown, seven targets against Minnesota. That was tough matchup as well.
Starting point is 01:21:08 In week eight, how much does his work in the passing game matter to you to trust him this week against this defense? Yeah. I mean, I'm kind of, it is a terrible matchup and he's not been good lately, but I'm just kind of viewing him like Cooper cup and Pugin Akua. I'm going to start Kyron William. He's a top 12 running back. I think the touchdowns will come back at some
Starting point is 01:21:25 point. He had six touchdowns in a four-week stretch and now he's had zero in a four-week stretch. I still think he's a very good candidate to score a rushing touchdown. If he gets the work in the passing game, he's got a good chance to be a top five running back. And it was like he had five catches two weeks ago. He had five catches four weeks ago. He has two other games this season with four catches. So it has happened sporadically. It's just that when they don't use him in the passing game, they really don't use him. It's nothing. I hope he does get involved and just think about what happened last week with the commanders. They used Austin Echler as a huge weapon out of the backfield. Maybe they do the same thing the Rams do with Kyron Williams. So hopefully that will help his, uh, his fantasy production in this matchup. This was going
Starting point is 01:22:08 to be the game of the week. I didn't have the song queued up, but we were going to get Dave on this one because I think this is going to be the most fun game to watch at least of the NFC slate, but a lot of good games for this weekend. Make sure you check out all the action on CBS sports. Make sure you check out all the action on Paramount plus. Make sure you check us out Sunday morning at 11 a.m. Eastern on fantasy football today on our YouTube stream and check out our Mailbag episode on Saturday, which you can also watch on YouTube as well.
Starting point is 01:22:30 We'll get Adam Maeser back on Sunday nights and we'll all be together for that. So Heath, thanks so much for taking some time on your day off to join us. Thanks everybody for watching, listening. Our producer Claire, sorry for keeping you so long, but that'll do it for us here on campus.

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