Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC): Mike Evans, Brian Robinson Jr., Packers wide receivers and More (11/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: November 22, 2024Recapping the Steelers-Browns snowy matchup and wondering if it's time to panic about Najee Harris. They also touch on the Steelers quarterback tantum of Russell Wilson and Justin Fields before discus...sing the latest injuries, news, and notes to get you ready for the weekend (8:30). Next, they discuss One Question for Each Game (19:55). Is Mike Evans an easy start this week? Can you trust any Packers wide receivers? Should fantasy managers trust DJ Moore? Finally, they go through their starts and sits for each game (24:40). 1:00 - Steelers-Browns Recap 8:30 - Injuries, News and Notes 17:00 - Injuries, News and Notes continues 19:55 - One Question for Each Game 24:40 - Tampa Bay at New York Giants 37:50 - San Francisco at Green Bay 47:35 - Dallas at Washington 56:00 - Arizona at Seattle 1:06:45 - Minnesota at Chicago 1:17:20 - Philadelphia at Los Angeles Rams Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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1130 a.m. Eastern CBS Sports HQ at 10 a.m. Eastern guys what do you think
about that game last night the snow fest between the Browns and the Steelers.
Browns winning that game 24-19.
Just your overall thoughts, Dave, I'll start with you.
I was amused by it, obviously.
It was fun watching the snow come down
and where it's a reminder that we're entering
that time of year where you really need to stay
on top of the weather before any outdoor game.
We saw Jameis Winston attempt just 27 passes.
I don't know how many he attempted in the first quarter.
It felt like the entire first quarter of that game was a throwaway.
And then both offenses were like, Hey, wait a minute.
We can throw the ball a little bit.
Let's just throw it.
And so for three quarters, uh, it's certainly more so in the
second half than the second quarter.
Uh, we got treated to kind of a quasi shootout.
It wasn't exactly something that worked out for every wide receiver.
It certainly didn't work out for the quarterbacks, but it was an entertaining
game. It was awesome to see Nick Chubb score twice.
If he was on your bench, that kind of stinks. And I think it's,
this was the type of game where you would expect Najee Harris to not only get a
lot of work, but
do well with it.
It's the snow, it's the Browns without their best linebacker playing.
Najee had been running well for several weeks and he really, really disappointed to the
point where Jaylen Warren not only had a touchdown, Jaylen Warren looked better and Jaylen Warren
dominated playing time.
He had, let me call it up real quick.
He had 57% of the snaps, both of their snaps inside the five,
13 of 16 snaps on third down.
I don't know if it's happening, Jamie and Heath.
I don't know if we're getting Jalen Warren
as the lead back in Pittsburgh quite yet,
but last night, Thursday night, he was the lead guy.
I think the nice thing was like we told a lot of people, or I
did at least, I didn't really want to start Nick Chubb. And I
think a lot of people with six teams on a buy if they had Nick
Chubb on their roster probably didn't have a choice. And so
not really a good game for him. But he scored two touchdowns,
and he helped you out. And he scored double digit fantasy
points. That's great. Jerry Judy looks like the number one he's
had 14 fantasy points. That's great. Jerry Judy looks like the number one. He's had 14 fantasy points.
That's great.
I'm on HQ in about four hours and we do a kind of a panicometer and I had to send
in the names for that and I thought about sending in Najee Harris because like it
is, is it happening?
It is a time to panic on Najee.
Um, we've seen a lot of times over the last three years or two years where
it looked like, Ooh, Shaylin Warren might be taking the lead job. And then it usually
doesn't happen.
All right. So let's go through some of the numbers from last night's game again. Brown's
24, Steelers 19. We'll start with Pittsburgh. So we got the quarterback tandem that I think
a lot of people were concerned about if you were starting or buying into Russell Wilson. He 270 and a touchdown three carries for 10 yards lost the fumble Justin Fields attempted one past was incomplete
He did have three carries for 26 yards seems like he sparked the offense a little bit with his big run there
To set up but what what felt like no Pittsburgh taking the league you guys touched on this a little bit
So now G Harris 16 for 41 catches, 13 yards on two targets.
Jaylen Warren 11 for 45 and a touchdown, three carries for 19 yards on five targets.
It was not a good game for the pass catchers that we rely on for the Steelers.
Are we done with Mike Williams? Are we just dropping at this point? No catches for the second game in a row?
Yeah.
Unfortunate there. George Pickens 4 for 48 and 7 targets.
We'll see if there's going to be a revenge game next time these two teams met
after Newsom says fake tough guy after the little scuffle there at the end of the game.
So we'll see how that goes next time these two teams meet up in a couple weeks.
Calvin Austin did have a touchdown, but I don't think anybody's buying into him.
Three targets, he had three catches, 78 yards and the score.
And not a bad game for Pat Prior, moves four catches, 59 yards on four targets.
For Cleveland, Jameis Winston 2-19 and the interception, the score and not a bad game for Pat Priemuth. Four catches, 59 yards on four targets.
For Cleveland, Jameis Winston, 219 and the interception.
He also scored a rushing touchdown but lost the fumble.
Dave touched on this.
The two touchdowns for Nick Chubb is now three yards per
carry in each of his four games back.
So he's not running well, 24-59.
You got lucky, I think,
with the two touchdowns from a fantasy perspective.
But he scored them, give him credit.
And the Steelers continue to give up rushing touchdowns.
So just keep that in mind for their future opponents.
Jerome Ford, are we done with him?
Four carries, 19 yards, one catch for eight yards.
We have to wait to see if maybe Nick Chubb has to miss any time before we buy into Jerome
Ford.
Handcuff.
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Heath mentioned this, Jerry Judy, six for 85, six targets.
Is it clear that he's just the number one receiver right now for Cleveland?
Hi, you'd like to say that and in terms of production it is like it's now four games and he's been good in three of them
But if you look at targets like he had sticks Elijah Moore had five David Najok who had five
Tillman had four and left with the concussion So I wouldn't be surprised if there's a week where one of these guys has ten and Judy has eight
So I wouldn't be surprised if there's a week where one of these guys has 10 and Judy has eight.
But as it is still, you know, the numbers without a Mario Cooper with Jamis Winston
have been pretty solid and you just like in a good spot in a tough spot.
He's leaning on Jerry Judy quite a bit.
You mentioned Cedric Tillman leaving with the concussion.
So he's in the concussion protocol.
We'll see what happens going into week 13.
But you might be without Cedric Tillman.
You might want to bench said
or tell me anyway, just based on the lack of production the last
two weeks. But again, who knows how that game would have
finished? When he did suffer the concussion in the second half,
Elijah more three for 21. So two good games to bad games with
Jamis Winston now. So again, we'll see what happens moving
forward. And really nothing to worry about. I think with David
to joke, he's gonna have bad games every now and then one
catch for nine yards
So bad
Sorry, they dropped a touchdown he dropped touchdown. Yeah, so, you know, it's it's not gonna be
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All right, let's get into some injuries, news and notes before we take our first
break. So we'll start with the quarterback position and I want to get your guys
thoughts on, on this and Heath, you specifically because of dynasty value.
So Daniel Jones basically say goodbye yesterday. Um, it was, uh,
an emotional speech. It sounded as if like he was getting cut.
He was basically just, you know, kind of summarizing where he's at now with the team and sort of, you know, answering questions about
Playing on the scout team. Um, you know not getting the starting job anymore
What do we think about his long-term value? He's he's not going to be on the giants But do you think he has a chance to you know, maybe sit for a season?
Play again at some point. I don't know what the market will be for him given what the draft class looks
like for the quarterbacks,
but are you holding onto Daniel Jones in a one quarterback 12 team dynasty league?
Well, no, not in, I mean, in one quarterback 12 team. I mean,
some of those he may not have even been rostered. The super flex,
I think you definitely do.
And I think like you can look at the top 12 quarterbacks right now this year and
find a handful of guys who at least one team gave up on them.
Like Baker Mayfield, we thought it was over at one point.
Sam Darnold, we thought it was over at one point.
You know, Smith, we thought it was over at three different points.
Even Jared Goff, like the Rams were just throwing him into the deal because they wanted to go get Matthew Stafford.
So I want to hold on to him. I'm not giving up on him.
I think it'll be really interesting this off season to see what does he value?
Does he go somewhere like,
like you've talked about the car wash where a team that can make like turn him
into a better quarterback if he sits for a year or does he go somewhere and try
to earn a starting job next year?
Here's a question.
How many quarterback jobs are going to be open this off season?
Like I'm, I'm running through the teams right now and I'm thinking there might
be like six, six teams that are in the market for a new quarterback giant.
I think that are questionable or guaranteed.
You got the Raiders.
Yep.
You have the jets potentially.
He's not going to the Giants, obviously.
I mean, that would be kind of ridiculous.
Titans?
Titans might.
Titans, Titans almost certainly will.
Panthers, maybe.
Steelers, I don't, do Steelers have a quarterback under contract for next year?
There's not a quarterback under contract.
They don't, but they could theoretically resign one or both of the guys that they have now.
But sure, they're, they're in, did you say New Orleans?
Nope.
New Orleans is definitely in the, in the conversation.
You got to assume that if places, I would imagine that his goal is going to be to try
and latch on with one of those places.
If I was, if I was Daniel Jones and Sam Darnold leaves the Vikings, that's
the place I would go.
I don't know if they'd want them, but sure.
That that would be an excellent opportunity.
Play behind JJ McCarthy, learn from Kevin O'Connell.
You know that the standing for McCarthy right now, not guaranteed
because of his injuries.
Yeah.
Sure.
No, that makes sense.
Any, any quarterback that goes to Minnesota is going to get attention.
Certainly in super flex leagues, just in case McCarthy isn't ready to go.
I would say his next best option is to go to a team that's got, you know, kind of do
what Carson Wentz did and go to a team that's going to be playoff bound, great coaching
staff and maybe they can help.
That's the Baker Mayfield route, right?
Isn't that what Baker ended up doing is he went to LA.
It was only for like a third of the season that he was with the Rams and he played for the
Rams. But that kind of jumpstarted his chance to, you know, build himself back up and then the Bucs bought in. And
lo and behold, here he was, a great NFL quarterback and a great fantasy quarterback again. So there will be options
for him. I don't think he's going to be like kicked to the curb and, you know, given the double bird from the rest of the league, but
it's just a matter of, can he find a place where he can even potentially start at any point in the season?
Obviously, he's back anywhere that could happen. But he'd want to go somewhere where he could at least have a chance to
start Week 1 or get coached up by a really good coach that can help them bounce back in
2026.
Let's rip through some of these news and notes here. So Kyle Shanahan remains hopeful that Brock Purdy will play
Sunday at Green Bay. He's dealing with a shoulder injury, did throw a little bit more on Thursday than he did on
Wednesday, but did not finish practice.
Right.
Just quickly, Heath, if we don't have Brock Purdy, and right now it could be Brandon Allen, maybe Josh Dobbs or Brandon Allen right now is number two on the depth chart.
Yeah.
Do we downgrade everybody in San Francisco?
Yes.
I, my first instinct was a lot.
And then I remembered like we had Nick Mullins throwing for eight yards per
attempt at one point in this offense.
Like I, I'm not sure.
Probably not as much as I was originally thinking. I'll probably move Debo and Juwan Jennings outside of my top 24 wide receivers,
but they'll still be inside of my top 36.
George Kittle still going to be a must start tight end.
Christian McCaffrey still going to be a must start running back.
We're going to just game a little bit later, but okay.
Okay.
I've got Brandon Allen's career stats.
I was going to ask Heath, uh, where were these numbers ranked compared to like an average
quarterback, but we can do that later.
And save that for later. All right, running back news. We
got Alexander Madison and Zameer White both not practicing again
on Thursday, they did not practice on Wednesday. Amir
Abdullah 33% roster Dave if Abdullah is the starter for the
Raiders against the Broncos. He is a what's running back to
a good bye week running back in a desperation spot starter in half and full PPR and I don't think
he'll be the only guy there. There was a report in the Las Vegas Review Journal that rookie Dylan Lauby could get a good
amount of work as well. We've talked about Lauby this week about his only carry went for negative fantasy points
because he fumbled. They have a practice squad running back named Sincere McCormick,
who I need to learn about before I start thinking about how he could fit into the Raiders offense.
But the reality is this. This is a Raiders offense that isn't very good against a Denver defense.
That's really good. And we could end up seeing this game get lopsided pretty quickly,
much like the Broncos game did last week.
And that could lead to a mirror of Dula logging
a lot of snaps as the passing downs back, hurry up offense back, play from behind type
back and maybe he gets in the neighborhood of four or five catches along with eight carries
on top of it. You could do worse for a bi-week running back.
So here's what just in case you're looking at it from PPR, Denver has allowed eight running
backs to score at least 6.8
PPR points this season with just their receiving totals alone. So he would get the opportunity
to play a lot on passing downs. And if that's where we're starting with, that puts him in
a solid flex spot potential starting option if he's going to get around six PPR points
with just his reception totals because you can throw the ball out of the backfield against
Denver.
How excited are you Jamie to have this guy back in?
I mean, you know, between JK Dobbins and Amir Abdullah, it's like, you know, my favorite
season ever.
Isaiah Pacheco was limited again on Thursday.
Heath, just give us your take again.
If Pacheco does play the split between him and Kareem Hunt, and how would you like these
guys?
Yeah, I think Kareem Hunt is a high end RB2 without Isaiah Pacheco. He's a low end RB2
with Isaiah Pacheco. I would expect Kareem Hunt touch the ball more than Isaiah Pacheco
or the same and Pacheco's first game back. I would expect Kareem Hunt to handle the short
yardage work. And hopefully that the real key is that we need some OJP Ryan to go away
on passing downs.
Because if P Ryan's handling passing downs and Pacheco and Hunter's chopping up the rushing downs, then we may not want to start anybody in this offense, but I would still favor hunt
in week one. And I still don't really feel like Pacheco is going to play this week.
Yeah, we'll we'll find out hopefully before Sunday, but we get that answer for you.
If we don't get it the answer for you, since we already did our mail bag,
we'll get that to you on Sunday morning at 1130 a.m. Eastern.
DeAndre Swift, it was upgraded to limited practice
on Thursday, but not practicing on Wednesday.
We'll talk about that game as they take on Minnesota.
Josh Jacobs, still limited in practice
with the quadricep injury.
We'll talk about that game as they take on San Francisco.
You got two running backs in the concussion protocol.
TyJ Spears did not practice on Thursday.
They get Houston this week.
So that's good news for Tony Pollard in terms of his workload, tough matchup.
And Justice Hill started the week in the concussion protocol.
So maybe Keaton Mitchell gets a bigger role in the passing down situation as the number
two guy there behind Derrick Henry as they take on the Chargers on Monday night football.
Before we get to the wide receiver and tight end news, we'll take a quick break here on
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Wide receiver news and notes.
DeMonte Smith did not practice again on Thursday.
We'll talk about that game as they take on the Rams this week.
Could be good news for Dallas Goddard and hopefully a bounce back game for A.J.
Brown. He's been struggling a little bit in his last four games.
CD Lamb was downgraded from limited from limited practice on Wednesday
to not practicing on
Thursday. That's certainly an injury to monitor as they take on the commanders. Brandon Cooks
was limited Thursday as well. He's trying to make his return from IR. He's 16% rostered,
so maybe if Lamb does not play, you're looking at Brandon Cooks in a desperate situation.
Lad McConkey started the week as limited. Hopefully he'll be okay Monday night football against
the Ravens. Darius Slayton was a full participant in practice coming back from the concussion protocol and Adam Thielen
Remain limited in practice on Thursday. He's 24% rostered they take on Kansas City for this week tight ends
He said George Kittle will be downgraded if Brandon Allen starts
But that's good news that George Kittle will play because he was still remains limited in practice on Thursday
But he is expected to go against Packers Jake Ferguson still in the concussion protocol
Luke Skoonmaker is 7% rostered as they take on the commanders
We'll talk about that game and Noah Phant was upgraded to limited practice on Thursday. He's missed the last two games with a groin injury
Maybe he does return against Arizona in week number 11 some offensive line injury news to keep an eye on
Zach Martin and Tyler Smith both did not practice on Thursday for the Cowboys
Tristan worse was limited for the Bucs Toronto Arnstead not a surprise not practice on Thursday We'll keep an eye on his statusorse was limited for the Bucks. Tron Arnstead, not a surprise, did not practice on Thursday.
We'll keep an eye on his status for the Dolphins
as they take on the Packers.
Patriots, excuse me.
Ben Powers, the guard for the Broncos,
was still limited in practice on Thursday.
And Trent Williams did not practice on Thursday,
but I'm sure it was more of a rest day for him
as they take on the Packers this week.
It could be really bad for San Francisco
if they don't have Trent Williams or Brock Purdy.
So keep an eye on that for the 49ers.
Also, Nick Bosa dealing with an injury as well as we look at the defensive injuries.
So Bosa did not practice on Thursday also.
Joey Bosa, Khalil Mack, and Derwin James were all limited for the Chargers.
Roquan Smith, we spent a lot of time talking about this, what the run defense looks like
for the Ravens with or without Roquan.
He did not practice as they have the Monday night game.
So keep an eye on that heading into Saturday with the final injury report.
Jair Alexander did not practice on Thursday dealing with his knee injury.
Jack Jones and Nate Hobbs did not practice for the Raiders.
And Jacory and Bennett.
All three cornerbacks, you're right.
Three cornerbacks did not practice for the Raiders.
So that could be good news for Bo Nix and Cortland Sutton and maybe Devon Vela if you need a desperation flex option.
He has 10 or more PPR points each of his last two games.
Will Anderson was limited for the Texans. Legerius need to not practice for the Titans.
Clays Campbell's having a fantastic season for the Dolphins.
He did not practice on Thursday and Dexter Lawrence was limited for the Giants,
but Kavon Thibodeau did practice in full. Keep an eye on the Giants defensive line injuries because that could actually be a sneaky DST
based on the Dall- the Bucks offensive line, especially if worst does not go. One kicker note to be
a up to date on is Austin Siebert again remain limited in practice on Thursday dealing with
the hip injury. So keep an eye on that because he has been a great fantasy kicker so far
this season. All right. One question for each game. We got Tampa Bay and the Giants. Dave,
I'll start with you. Mike Evans after a three game layoff or Malik neighbors playing with Tommy
DeVito, who do you like better?
Evans running right back in his arms as a must start.
Number one fantasy wide receiver.
I'll give you a, my favorite stat of the game of the week.
This is courtesy of Heath Cummings from our show on Wednesday.
Mike Evans needs to average 95 yards per game over his final seven games
to get his 11 straight season of 1000 yards receiving his high so far this year in a game
is 94 yards receiving. So he needs to not only have his best game of the season every
game on average for the rest of the year, but we know how these late season pushes have
gone for him. So hopefully it starts. I wouldn't bet against him.
Yeah, I would not bet against him either,
especially without Chris Goblin.
We'll talk about it.
Where's the Giants rank in yards per game to wide receivers?
You can look that up when we get to the game.
So let's go San Francisco and Green Bay Heath.
Which Packers receiver do you trust the most?
Christian Watson, Jayden Reed,
Romeo Dobbs, Dontevi Wicks.
I do not trust a Packers wide receiver,
but Jayden Reed is the highest ranked.
I think I have Reed Watson and Romeo Dobbs all projected within 10 spots in my wide receiver
rankings between wide receiver.
They're all number three wide receivers.
But Reed is a good number three.
Watson is a boom bus number three and Dobbs is a bad number three.
Looking forward to breaking down that game in a little bit
just based on how the San Francisco secondary
will try and defend these guys.
Dallas and Washington, Dave,
can you trust both commanders running backs?
Brian Robinson Jr. knows my starter of the week.
Austin Eckler has been fantastic really
with and without Robinson over the last month,
but can you trust both of them taking on Dallas?
I think the only game script that goes against Robinson
is if the Cowboys build a lead
and the commanders have to play from,
I can't even finish the sentence.
Now, Brian Robinson's gonna get a good amount of work.
We can get into some of those stats
that I love about Brian Robinson when we get to the game,
but yes, start.
And Eklers is in that number three running back, maybe low end, number two,
running back and full PPR kind of canoe, just the type of guy that you're hoping
can get four catches, total 70 yards, something like that.
And you're lucky in these scores.
Uh, I actually have Eklers ranked ahead of Chuba Hubbard, Tony Pollard,
and DeAndre Swift as of now.
So I like the setup for both commanders running backs.
Arizona and Seattle.
Heath, who is the best pass catcher in this game?
Factoring in Trey McBride.
You could throw in Noah Fant if you want to also,
but the Cardinals tight end and both teams receivers.
Who do you like the best?
I do not want to throw Noah Fant in.
I will go with DK Metcalf,
but I do have he and JSN pretty close.
I think there's like five must start pass catchers in this game
or at least four. So but yeah, it's it's DK.
I'm curious to get your take on Metcalf coming up later in the show
because the numbers against this defense are not good for him
and not good for number one wide receivers lately.
So the history is not good.
But I'm a little nervous about DK after doing some research in this game.
Minnesota and Chicago, Dave, are we ready to trust
DJ Moore again after his best game since week six
in the first game with Thomas Brown?
Adam pointed out to me last night
that his A-dot last week was under one yard.
So he got a lot of short screens.
Bears did what I thought they were gonna do
and that's simplify the offense for Caleb Williams.
And if they do that again, yes, that would theoretically help DJ Moore as a number three receiver, particularly in full PPR.
That's about as far as I'm willing to trust them.
All right. So we'll break down that game as well as the Bears and the Vikings meet each other for this big NFC North Showdown. Last game here for our one question for every game, Heath, Cooper Cup or Puka Nakua as the
Eagles and Rams meet up?
I'm going to go with Puka Nakua.
Again, you're probably starting both of them, but I do think that Puka, a little bit more
ability to create explosive plays.
Cup is closer to him in full PPR because of the targets and the catches, but I'll take
Puka.
It's a brutal, brutal matchup, so we'll see if these two stud receivers can come through.
And I'm curious if anybody wants to post in the chat, please hit the like button, we would
appreciate it.
Do you have both Rams receivers on any of your fantasy teams?
I do in one 10-team league where we had some IR issues.
I think there was maybe one IR spot for every team and somebody dropped Cooper Cup early in the season and I had
Pukunakua in my one IR spot so I picked him up and so now I have to make that decision every week with league neighbors and
Devontae Adams the three receiver league with a flex
So trying to decide if I want to play both Rams receivers every week has been fun
Let's get into the games here. We'll start with Tampa Bay and the Giants the stat of the game here
We already got I went over it
I'll repeat it again.
Mike Evans needs to average 95 yards per game in his final seven games to reach 1,000 yards
receiving for the 11th year in a row.
As Heath said, don't bet against him based on how things have gone.
So let's start with the Bucs.
You got Baker Mayfield, only two games this season with fewer than 20 fantasy points.
Only one of those was without Mike Evans on the field.
That was week three against Denver.
The Giants have allowed at least 23.8 fantasy points to two of the
past four opposing quarterbacks.
So is it just an easy slam dunk Baker Mayfield back in your lineup?
I think so top 10 fantasy quarterback good when Evans was out.
He should be good again with Evans back in.
And, uh, yeah, I think the matchup is favorable as well.
And Baker Mayfield is a must start.
I hear some quarterbacks that I have ahead of them that you might, you
know, do a double take at Bo Nix, Jared Goff, love golf this week.
Uh, Patrick Mahomes is ahead of him.
Cause he's taken on Carolina.
Justin Herbert's out of them, but that's it guys like Jayden
Daniels, Sam Darnold, pretty to 2-11, all behind Baker Mayfield.
Welcome back to the top 10, Baker. I'm going to ask Keith this question. Dave, let me fair. Look
up what the weather is supposed to be in New Jersey this week. Keith, Adam brought up the
Giants and their pressure rate and how they get to quarterbacks. And now Thibodeau is back along
with hopefully a healthy Dexter Lawrence. No worse. Do we have any concern
about Baker maybe protected being protected in this game?
You know, maybe a little bit and maybe that makes me a little bit more nervous about Mike
Evans because he doesn't generally handle the short area targets. If Baker has to get
the ball out of his hand quicker, I think he will. It's just going to mean more targets
for Kate Otten, more targets for Rashad White and maybe whoever's playing the slot this week for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So if it gives
me concern about anybody, it would be Evans more so than Mayfield, but I'm starting both of them.
So just some numbers on Evans for Dave gives the weather report here. He's got three games
this season with at least 23.1 PPR points, four games with nine and a half PPR points or less.
He's only got one game with more than seven targets, but we know that no god-willing
They haven't played he has not played a game yet without Chris Goblin on the field
The Giants are 13 and fewest fantasy points allowed supposing wide receivers
So it's not the easiest of matchups and you mentioned the slot receiver
I would have hoped it's gonna be Jalen McMillan or at least the second receiver
You know whether it's gonna line up in the slot or play outside at least gonna be the guy that's second in targets
Did not play in week 10 week not with the hamstring injury
No snaps in week 10 did have a full practice after the buy so should be healthy
But prior to the by week two games with at least seven targets one of those was the game where both guys got injured that
Was against Baltimore and then came back the next game now
He had eight targets against Baltimore seven targets the following week
So we'll see who he does have a bigger role and then any concern with Kate Otten
role and then any concern with Kate Otten because Mike Evans back and the Giants are number one in fewest fantasy points allowed to opposing tight ends only one touchdown allowed to the position.
Now they haven't exactly faced murderers row Zach Ertz twice Jake Ferguson once when Dak was healthy
and Pat Fryermuth are the three best tight ends that they faced but Otten now does have the target
crunch potentially with Mike Evans back on the field. I think he can still bunk.
I think you said you hope Jalen McMillan is the number two wide receiver.
I think K.Otten is the number two wide receiver.
So he must start tight in.
I think I've got him fourth or fifth.
So I'd start Bowers, Kelsey, Kittle, McBride over him.
That's it.
I almost feel like he's the one who's replaced Chris Godwin.
Just that short area safety blankie for Baker May Baker Mayfield. So, uh, there's,
there's no way I'm getting away from KDOT. And at this point, there's just way too much upside with them. Weather,
uh, 53 degrees, overcast, winds 10 to 20 miles an hour. So maybe we do a check of the weather before the game and just
to see how bad that wind is at MetLife Stadium. We know that it can get pretty bad there. I also wanted to point out that on the year, the Giants are giving up an average
of 91.2 receiving yards per game just to outside wide receivers.
So if Evans is going to get this number, we're looking for 95 yards this week
for him to try and get that average to a thousand.
He's going to need a lot of targets and maybe he moves into the slot
a little bit more than normal to try and take advantage of the match up there.
Let's talk about the Bucs running backs here because I think a lot of people interested
in this match up as well.
The Giants have a lot of these one running back to score at least 13.1 PPR points in
seven games in a row.
They haven't done it with both guys in the same backfield doing that, but I don't think
a lot of teams have the combination that the Bucs have.
Rashad White scored at least 12 and a half PPR points in four games in a row.
He's got at least five catches in three of his last four games and Bucky
Irvin scored at least 15.4 PPR points in four of his last five games.
And he's got at least three catches in four games in a row with three rushing
touchdowns over that span. So Heath, which of the bucks running backs,
do you like better? And would you start both this week?
They're both low end number two running backs for me.
I've got Rashad White, I think maybe a tenth of a point higher than Bucky Irving.
Whoever scores the touchdown is the one that's going to be better.
I do think that White's pass catching in full PPR makes him just a little bit better.
But yeah, no problem starting with these.
I don't think I've downgraded quite as many of the guys who are going to have
15 to 20 touches like the Tony Pollard's, um, as you have.
So I don't, maybe don't have them quite as high, but I'd start them
over like a Deandre Swift.
Hmm.
Dave.
Uh, giants are giving up 5.2 yards per carry.
The bucks talked about getting bucking more work and then Sean Tucker's
name came up in Liam Cohen's.
No, no, no, no, don't do that.
I'm thinking that maybe Sean Tucker gets a couple of
carries and that's it and then the rest of it goes with
Bucky and Rashad White. We've seen Bucky just look better as
a runner than Rashad White, but White has played more near the
goal line. Certainly can do a little bit more in the passing
game.
That's what his experience says.
Buc-ee's caught some passes too, but I think that you could start either one of them as
a low end number two fantasy running back.
I agree with Heath.
I like Buc-ee better in non PPR.
I like Rashad White better in full PPR, but they're both back to back in that 22 to 24
range in my running back rankings.
Very positive schedule coming up for the buck. So
hopefully this is the start of a strong finish for both of these
guys. Or maybe if you just want to see one separate from the
other, then you have to at least have one you can get at least
one running back. That's a must start guy and maybe one that's
a flex. But if you needed a quarterback, would you try and
buy low on Baker in the next 48 hours because of that schedule?
You certainly can. I know how many people's trade deadlines have not passed yet, but if you need a quarterback
and the Baker manager found somebody to replace him last week when he was on a buy or had
somebody already, then sure, that's a good option to go get.
But I think a lot of people know getting Mike Evans back, the price tag has certainly gone
up a little bit by comparison to the last couple of weeks.
The Giants, there's really two must start options or maybe start options depending on how you view Tyrone Tracy
But Malik neighbors and and Tracy in terms of Tommy DeVito
He started six games the Giants last season scored at least 17 and a half fantasy points in three of them
So not a bad option in
Super flex in two quarterback leagues the Bucs are number one in most fantasy points allowed to the position
I went back through and looked at all of his games from last season and Saquon Barkley
was great in two of them, was good in another one, so had some mediocre performances there,
but he did get Dallas when Dallas obviously was a great defense. He struggled against
the Patriots. I think their run defense last year was still relatively good. He struggled
a little bit against, I didn't put who they played in this game, bit against New Orleans.
And the receivers, he had a couple of good games from Wondell Robinson, a couple of good
games from different outside receivers.
So Jaylen Hyatt had a good game, Darryl Slayton had a couple of good games.
Daniel Bellinger was the lead tight end at that point.
He didn't really do very much.
So I don't know if you're looking at Theo Johnson.
So just in terms of the guys he was throwing to, it was kind of a mixed bag.
He only had one game over 30 pass attempts in those six starts.
So we'll see if maybe the volume ticks up a little bit here.
And Dave has noted that this is a better offensive line that DeVito will play behind by comparison
to last year and certainly did not have a playmaker like Malik Nabors in the passing game, but a little bit of a downgrade, obviously from the running back
perspective.
So Heath, what do you think about Tyrone Tracy this week?
He scored at least 14 PPR points in four or five games this season where he's had double
digits and carries Tampa Bay's number five and most fantasy points allowed to the position.
He's a must start running back with just this little hint of I hope the bye week was long enough for everybody to
forget about the fact that he dropped a pass that turned into an interception and fumbled the game
away. Like he might be one mistake away from Devin Singletary playing a couple of series in a row,
but fantastic matchup, been very efficient as a rusher. They probably want to run the ball a little bit more now that they've got
the veto playing quarterback should be a borderline top 12 guy.
Just a little bit of risk in the back of my head and Barkley had in the six
starts with the veto again, different player, but at least three catches in
123.
Three of the six starts.
So hopefully we see a little bit more work
in the passing game for Tracy
by comparison to what Daniel Jones was doing.
And I think one thing I think we should just bring up
is you can't compare Tommy DeVito stats this year,
even past attempts per game to Daniel Jones this year,
because the Giants, Brian Dable wasn't calling plays
last year, the Giants were much, much, much more run heavy no matter who
was playing quarterback last year than they have been this year. Jones is
averaging 34 attempts per game last year. I'm not even sure he was averaging
30. So I think DeVito throws it more than he did in those games last year.
And 34 would be the season high for DeVito or at least the games that he
started. So that would be interesting to see if
He is gonna be consistently above 30 past temps and again if he keeps the job
You know drew lock was a little confused why he was not given the starting opportunity
So we'll see how things go for the Giants
They just sent him a gif of a tank when he asked why
Dave give me your thoughts on Malik neighbors and Wanda Robinson.
You know, clearly more attention is going to be paid toward neighbors.
He hasn't scored touchdown since week three and he's been 10.8 PPR points or less in
two of his past three games.
Are we sure that he's safe with to Vito?
I think he's safe as a number two receiver.
Dave your volume, your volume is gone.
Dave just disappeared.
It's like the first the Sun blocks out his face and
Now something's blotted out as Mike
Try again there got me now
No, why don't you log out log back in and hopefully that fix it?
All right
He give me your thoughts on Malik neighbors and Wanda Robinson Robinson hasn't scored touchdown since week five and ten point one PPR points
Or less than five games in a row. I'm I'mik neighbors as a must start top 12 wide receiver. Tommy DeVito could be so bad
that I have to change that after this week, but if when you compare DeVito last year to Jones last
year, DeVito was more efficient as a passer. So I haven't downgraded neighbors because of the
quarterback change. I would view Wondale Robinson as a number three wide receiver. He's going to be completely dependent on how much the giants need to pass.
Cause I do think, um, much lower intended air yards per attempt for
DeVito last year, he does throw a lot of short area targets that should be
good for one Dale Robinson.
But if he's, if DeVito is throwing 28, 29 passes, that's not going to matter
because one Dale Robinson needs nine or 10 targets to be good, um, right If Devito is throwing 28, 29 passes, that's not going to matter because Wondell Robinson
needs nine or 10 targets to be good.
Right around wide receiver 30 for me in full PPR,
much, much worse in half and none.
He's got five targets or less in two of his past three games.
So we'll see what happens there.
And then Theo Johnson will start to make some plays
prior to their bye week.
7.7 PPR points each of his two games
against Washington and Carolina.
And over that span, seven catches, 88 yards and a touchdown on 12 targets.
Tampa Bay is number five in most fantasy points allowed to opposing tight ends.
So for me, I looked at it this week.
Scoonmaker as a good one week replacement to Davion Sanders.
If you wanted a one week replacement and maybe something more just based on the matchups
coming up.
And then Theo Johnson was kind of the third desperation play at tight end.
Maybe DeVito does give him some more opportunities to make plays as the Giants try to find out if Theo Johnson could be a playmaker for
them going into 2025. Alright we'll take a quick break right now we're gonna get a
lot faster on the games but a lot more into the last five games that we're
covering here and hopefully Dave's mic is working here on Fantasy Football Day.
Dave you good? No. No. No. that's not great but yep well it's a good thing
you uh it's a good thing you joined us today he uh all right can you imagine Jamie can you imagine
it was the one man podcast for the rest of the friday slate that would have been
it would have been really entertaining yeah it would have Friday sleep that would have been really entertaining.
Yeah, it would have been good. We would have been really happy with Adam Azer. Alright,
start of the game between the 49ers and the Packers. Christian McCaffrey hasn't scored
a touchdown in the two games that he's played this season. The last time he went two games
in a row without a touchdown was weeks 11 and 12 in 2022. So hopefully finds the end
zone this season that was early in his tenure with the 49ers after the trade from Carolina.
So we don't see this very often for Christian McCaffrey.
Hopefully it's not three games in a row. We told you about Brock Purdy.
Dave is going to hopefully come back and give us some Brandon Allen stats,
but he's got three games in a row, at least 20.4 fantasy points.
Heath assuming he plays and he's fine.
Is he just a must start quarterback against Becker's?
Yeah, I,
I'm probably going to downgrade him a little bit.
If they tell us that he can't get through Friday's practice, like if he's, if he
really is not able to practice fully this week, then I think you have to view
him as more of a low end number one.
I can't imagine I'm going to get him outside of my top 12 cause I don't
really have 12 quarterbacks that I like right now I've got pretty sixth.
The guys I have ahead of them are Lamar, Jaylen Jaden Daniels, Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield.
There I think you could consider Jordan Love over him. You could consider Patrick Mahomes or Bo Nix or Jared Goff.
I'm probably not going to drop him much lower than that, but I will drop him a little bit if it's another partial practice.
I kind of wonder if maybe like maybe we can have Debo stay a little closer to the line of scrimmage and do the
things that he's good at instead of running 15 yards down field
and getting targets if pretty shoulder hurts.
All right.
Something to keep an eye on there as well as Dave's microphone.
So Dave, can we hear you?
Can you hear me?
No, you can't hear a word I'm saying, but it's the quietest
mic, like it's so faint. It's like a, you'm saying. Well, it can, but it's the quietest mic. Like it's self-maint.
It's like you're whispering.
All right.
One second.
All right.
You keep working on it.
Hello.
Hello.
There he is.
Why didn't you turn his mic on?
Hey, I blame the entire solar system.
All right.
Dave, you got those Brandon Allen stats?
Yes.
So here's what we've got from Brandon Allen.
This is career numbers.
It's a 56.7% completion rate.
Heath, you don't need to tell me that that's bad.
3.8% touchdown rate, 2.3% interception rate,
6.1 yards per attempt.
I'm looking at the career touchdowns he's had.
Three of them have gone to tight ends,
one to a running back.
Everything else has been wide receivers
and typically it's been big wide receivers.
T Higgins, AJ Green, Cortland Sutton, Tyler Boyd, Auden Tate.
Remember Auden Tate?
That dude was big.
So that, that's the 32nd profile of Brandon Allen.
And it makes me think that this isn't a good development whatsoever
for anybody in San Francisco.
Yeah.
development whatsoever for anybody in San Francisco. Yeah. I think you can add like,
I don't know if it's a 10% increase or a 20% increase or a 30% increase, but did you watch Jimmy Garoppolo on the Raiders? Did you watch Nick Mullins? Like he didn't have a couple of
good games last year, but when he was in Cleveland and played a game, it was absolutely awful. Like
there was a huge difference in playing in Shanahan system and playing in anyone else's system. It's a
good point. But let's hope that Brock Purdy is out there and so
far they're optimistic that he's going to play and it would
be very good for all the past catchers involved. So let's
talk about the three main past catchers here. Joanne Jennings,
Debo Samuel, George Kittle. So Jennings has been awesome in
the two games since he's returned 17 catches, 184 yards
in the touchdown on 22 targets, at least 16.3 PPR points in each of those games
against Tampa Bay and Seattle. Debo struggled a little bit 6.1 PPR points
last week against the Seahawks only one receiving touchdown this season which
happened to be week six against Seattle but he scored 12.6 PPR points
to two of his last three games and he does have seven targets he does have
seven targets or less in six games a row which isn't encouraging. George K Uh, George Kittle just been a stud, uh, Green Bay's number 11 and fantasy points
allowed to tight ends and he scored at least 14 and a half PPR points in six
games in a row with seven touchdowns on the season.
So Dave, when you look at these three guys are two of them easy and one's a
little bit challenging with Diba.
Well, I mean, it comes down to the quarterback first and foremost.
And, and assume that pretty is okay. I mean, that's also part of the problem is's assume Purdy's fine. And assume that Purdy's okay.
I mean, that's also part of the problem is that if Purdy,
he needs to get in like a full practice
and every reporter out of San Francisco says he looks fine,
he's good to go.
Like that's what I need to hear to not be scared
even a little bit about starting these guys.
But Debo has me scared.
He hasn't been putting up numbers like we're used to seeing.
I know that like 12 PPR points,
if that's the range that we're putting them in,
then I want to rank them accordingly.
That's a number three receiver.
Joann Jennings has been getting awesome targets,
11 each of his last two games.
He's had at least 16 PPR points each of his last two games.
I'm starting to warm up to him as the type of wide receiver that can get me
15 PPR points and maybe even nine points in a non PPR league. And Jair Alexander doesn't play and he's got a PCL
injury right now. He might end up being Jennings. I mean, could end up being a top 12 type of
fantasy wide receiver. It sounds silly, but he's just been bawling out the last couple
of weeks and I'm kind of buying into him winning with physicality, making plays after the catch, not a burner,
not anywhere close to the speed of Brandon Iuke,
but somebody who's getting relied on in this offense. George Kittle coming back,
obviously is a must start tight end.
That doesn't matter whether it's Alan or Purdy under center,
but that's kind of how I view this passing game
and no interest in Ricky Pierce all obviously,
just until we see a little bit more on the bench.
Yeah. Last week was a big let down.
It was good against Tampa Bay.
That was the concern. It was Tampa Bay.
And no, no George Kittle last week to see him not perform.
Well, it was, was a little frustrating for the Packers.
You got Jordan love, Heath.
You touched on this a little bit in your, your purdy ranking.
Is he safe because he's got three games in a row without multiple
passing touchdowns and one touchdown in three interceptions in his past three games. And
that was against Jacksonville, Detroit and Chicago. San Francisco's number seven and
fewest fantasy points allowed to opposing quarterbacks, but Nick Bosa may not play dealing
with the hip injury. So is love just a set and forget a quarterback or would you play Bo Nicks over him? Would you play, um, Justin Herbert over him?
Like where are we at with, uh, with, with Jordan love right now?
I've got basically him and my homes and Nick's, um, let me, they're all ranked as top 10
quarterbacks.
I'm probably just starting Jordan love, but I think if, if you wanted to play Nick's over
him, especially in a four point per pass touchdown league, I could understand that. There's a little bit of context to the
Jordan Love struggles, right? I mean, we had the injury and we had the...
What's that?
The groin injury?
Right. And we had, I think Chicago, you talk about a good San Francisco is against quarterback.
Chicago has been the best team against quarterbacks this year. So I still view him pretty much
as a must start quarterback
even in a bad matchup.
All right, so if both says out, that will certainly help.
Josh Jacobs again, limited in practice
with the quad injury.
He scored at least 12 PPR points in six games in a row.
No concern there.
He's a low end number one, high end number two
running back for all of us this week.
Let's talk about the receivers.
So Dave, he'd said he doesn't trust any of them
and they're all number three receivers,
which I think is the right route to take
You got jayden reed He scored nine point eight ppr points or less than three of his last four games six targets or less than six games in a
Row christian watson had the big game last week, but he has uh, he scored 10 or more
Uh, he's only it's only the second time all season where he scored 10.3 ppr points or more and only has two touchdowns this season
Romeo dobs has scored a combined nine and a half PPR points in his
past two games and that was against Detroit and Chicago.
And then on Tavion Wicks has no catches in his last two games.
So I don't think anybody's factoring him in, but the three other receivers
read Watson Dobbs, how do you feel about them against San Francisco,
which is number 10 and fewest fantasy points allowed to the position.
Yeah.
And to that point, just five wide receivers have 15 or more PPR points
against the 49ers this entire season.
Three of the five have been in the past six games and two of them have been slot players with
volume. That's Jackson Smith and Jigba, that's CD Lamb. So could this be a game where Jayden Reed
gets a lot of volume and ends up being just as good as those types of receivers? I would bet
against that. I don't think he'll get a lot of targets.
I think the targets get spread around quite a bit, but I do think that if
Bosa plays and if he's right, Jordan loves, got to get the ball out quick.
That would help both Jane Reed and Romeo Dobbs get some extra targets.
Then they might normally, uh, if Nick Bosa is out, then that I think kicks down
the door for Christian Watson to
get some deep targets again, whether he can catch them all for 150 yards, like he did
last week in Chicago remains to be seen, but he would be like a boom bus type of number
three receiver.
Uh, there's a whole range of those guys still top 36, but not anywhere close to top 24 as
it stands now.
Reed is my highest rank.
He's a borderline number two wide receiver.
Packers receiver or Calvin Ridley?
Ridley.
Ridley.
Packers receiver or DJ Moore?
I have Reid ahead of Moore.
I do too.
Okay, I'm trying to think of anybody else in that range.
Jacoby Myers or Packers receiver?
I'm almost positive that I've got Reid ahead of Myers.
Reid ahead of Myers.
Okay.
I have Ridley ahead of all of them.
I have Myers ahead of all of them.
And I have, I think, Reid ahead of DJ Moore as well.
Tucker Craft, no catches last week.
Anybody have any interest in Tucker Craft?
49ers, number six, and fewest fantasy points allowed to the position.
Tough to trust.
I know. I mean, like I said earlier in the week, there were three streaming
tight ends in my top 12 this week.
It was a great week for adding a tight end off the waiver wire.
There's no reason you should still have to start.
Tucker craft.
There isn't a tight end on the year that has more than 9.3 half PPR
points against San Francisco.
That includes Travis Kelsey. That includes Jake Ferguson. This is, this is an easy 9.3 half PPR points against San Francisco. That includes Travis Kelsey.
That includes Jake Ferguson.
This is this is an easy one.
I think and Kate Otten who was as hot as they can come, you know, going into last week only
eight and a half PPR points or less for all three of those guys in the last four games.
So they've been doing a great job against the position.
All right.
Dallas is at Washington.
We can start with the Cowboys.
There's really not much to say here because nobody's trusting Cooper Rush
He did have 18.4 fantasy points on
55 attempts against Washington and we may see Trey Lance getting some playing time
So just keep that in mind for super flex and two quarterback leagues
Rico Daddle, so he's combined for 14 PPR points in his past two games
Five catches for nine yards on eight targets in the starts with Cooper Rush. And both guards are hurt for Dallas.
Is it just avoid him at all costs right now?
You would like to.
I think anybody who's starting Rico Dowdle is doing so out of necessity, not out of one, two,
but there weren't any waiver wire running backs that I want to start over him.
So like if you're in that stuck position, there's not somebody I could go find that I want to use.
So you'd start Rico over Abdullah if both Raiders are out.
I don't really have much confidence that Amir Abdullah is going to get double digit rush
attempts in a game.
That's fair.
If we're going to go based on that, then sure, Dowdle would be the guy to go with.
But I think the commander's defense smashes. This is Dan going up against
his former team. We've seen this time and time again, where the defensive coordinator,
old defensive coordinator comes back to take on a team. He crushes them and now he's going
to face them without their starting quarterback and potentially without two starting guards,
one of them an all-timer in Zagmar.
And they're tied in. And they're tied in.
And they're tied in, yeah.
I don't want to start him.
I want to be clear.
I'm not excited about him.
I do have a duel of one notch out of Doudle, but it's more because I don't want to, I really don't want to start Doudle.
Yeah, I would start at Doudle just based on his hopeful role in the passing game because for whatever reason that's disappeared with Cooper Rush.
You would think that would be something that they'd lean into a little bit more.
So for me, I would go with that duo,
but I think a lot of people probably share
your sentiment Heath, that you know,
just it's one situation is bad, the other one's worse,
and just do you want to make a transaction
if you don't have to.
So Dave, to your point, you know,
Dan Quinn knowing this team, CD Lam is banged up,
you know, hopefully he's gonna play,
but he was downgraded from Wednesday to Thursday,
which is never a good sign.
We may see Trey Lance,
which I don't think is gonna help CD lamb
and look he's been good in the two games without Cooper rush if he catches the touchdown in Dave's living room or if he
You know just does what he did last week with 18.6 PBR points against the Texans
He's got 22 targets in the two games
He has a great history against Washington scored five touchdowns in his last four games against the commanders and at least 15.3 PPR points in each of those games. But if they know him
and they know the team and the quarterback's bad and the offensive line is bad, is it just
easy to say CD Lam's a must start receiver? Or do we have some concerns?
There's concerns, but how far do you move CD Lam down knowing that he can still get
double digit targets and still piece together close to 15 PPR points.
I mean, do you move them down behind the likes of Quentin Johnson, Calvin Ridley?
I think he's got a little bit more upside to that, at least in full PPR.
Do you move them down behind Malik neighbors and Josh Downs?
Now you can make the case for that because those guys have the upside to be better than
what CD Lamb has
been. So I think he's in that mid wide receiver to range.
I hope he's okay. I hope he's okay. So just keep an eye on the on the back injury. So
like we said a couple times, you know, do they risk him playing at less than 100%? You
know, he's going to be a good soldier and go out there and do what he can to support
his team. We saw that with the shoulder injury that
he suffered in the game that got hurt and he still played, but you know, being downgraded
during the week, that's a little concerning if he does miss any interest in Jaylen Tolbert,
Turpin or cook if he plays, or it's just, I'm avoiding all Cowboys no matter what in
the receiving court.
It's too risky for me. You know, you know who I wouldn't mind though, if I'm looking for a cheap 10 PPR points is Schoonmaker. I think he can get you. Yeah,
I'm starting Schoonmaker, the top 12 guy with Thor without Liam. So six catches, 56 yards.
56 yards on 10 targets last week for him. That was after Ferguson got hurt. Just make sure Ferguson
is out before we start Schoonmaker. He isn't the concussion protocol but does not seem like he's going to clear
since he was put in the concussion protocol on a Monday night game. All right for the commanders
this is a bounce back spot for Jane Daniels 15.4 fantasy points in each of his last two games.
You know not playing to the level that we know for Jane Daniels only 23 rushing yards in his
last two games but Dallas is number six and most fantasy points allowed to opposing
quarterbacks for the last five have scored at least 24 points.
Um, and Jalen hurts and Brock Purdy each ran for at least 56 yards and a
touchdown against Dallas in the last four games.
So is this a easy smash spot for Jane Daniels?
They might score 50.
Like, I mean, you've got division rival that has beat up on you for decades.
You've got Dan Quinn revenge game.
Like we've got all the narratives for them to just go put up a huge and they're 10 and
the Cowboys are terrible defensively.
So yeah, I'm starting all the commanders start Daniels, start both running backs, start Terry
McLoran, start Zach Hertz.
All right.
So they're going to give us some, some fun Brian Robinson stats, but just stay on Terry
McLoran for a second Heath, because it's been an interesting ride for him
the last couple of weeks,
because the targets have been somewhat down.
He was productive two games ago,
but last week he was miserable clearly
with the matchup against Philly with one catch for 10 yards.
You going right back to him?
I'm going right back to him.
He's a number two, he's not a number one for me,
but I'm going right back to Terry McClure.
I think, and he might just be one of those guys that, yes, you know, that
there's a really low floor on a weekly basis because they might go score 50 and
just score seven rushing touchdowns.
Um, but he's got the upside to score 25 points any week.
And I'm just not going to sit that guy.
Noah Brown's got six targets, at least six targets in three of his last four
games and Zach Ertz is coming off a pretty impressive stretch.
We know what he did in his revenge game last week against Philadelphia,
six catches, 47 yards in the touchdown.
And that's now 14 PPR points in three of his last five games.
So is Ertz a must start tight end Heath?
Top 10.
Um, I was talking about being pretty excited about streaming Luke Schoonmaker.
I would not stream him over Zach Ertz.
Um, so I, I, I'd start Ertz over Mark Andrews, I'd start Ertz over
Dallas Goddard, I'd start Ertz over TJ Hockinson.
What about Disley and Johnna Smith?
I have Johnna and Disley out of Ertz.
Okay, so I do as well. I think it's interesting to see how those guys are performing, but
Ertz can obviously have a big game here.
All right, Dave, so Brian Robinson Jr. is the start of the week. Austin Echler is coming
off an impressive stretch, 17.3 PPR points in three games in a row. He's got eight games this season with 10.2 PPR points. Give us
your breakdown of the commander's back.
Well, first of all, I think Bryan Robinson, fantasy wise, he's never had a great game
against Dallas, but I think he may know that and he'll be ready to go and attack them and
finally have a big game against America's team. He has 16 or more carries in five of
his past seven games. The two games he didn't do it in,
one was a colossal blowout.
He had 13.1 fantasy points,
didn't catch any balls in that game.
On the other one he left early.
So I think he consistently gets north of 15 carries
week after week.
He scored in six of eight games this year
and Dallas has run defenses allowed at least 18 PPR points
to a running back in four other past five games.
Saquon Barkley somehow,
some way was limited by the Cowboys in week 10, uh,
4.8 yards per carry to running backs in those five, 4.6 on the season.
No matter how you slice it, this is not a good run defense.
And Brian Robinson should get the opportunity to have a big game.
I really liked this start of the week.
I think he is a number one fantasy running back,
a top 12 guy for week number 12.
I think I'm the low guy on Robinson.
I still have him ranked as a starter,
but I should probably at least explain it.
It's really simple.
Adam said it on yesterday's show.
He has two targets in his last four games.
Like he asked to score a rushing touchdown
or it's hard to have a great day.
He'll probably score a rushing touchdown
That's what I'm hoping for and it wouldn't be surprised
You know to your blowout theory that he scores a couple times, you know, right and if you are desperate
You know, we've seen in a couple of the commander's blowouts this season Jeremy McNichols, you know may get some I'm starting him in a league
Some fourth quarter run, you know just we get six teams on a buy, you know
So we'll see how things go there
But hopefully Brian Robinson, Jr.
And Austin Eckler, again, a lot of work in the passing game from last week
against Philadelphia that boosted his stat line, but the two games prior was
without Robinson.
So I don't mind.
Eckler as a flex, the Cowboys have shown that they can give up some
receptions to running backs this season.
All right.
Next game, we got Arizona at Seattle.
Stat of the game for this is seven opposing number one receivers in a row
against the Seahawks have scored at least 16 and a half PPR points including
four scoring at least 20 points seven points that is a Marvin Harrison Jr.
stat hopefully that continues now they are getting healthy in the secondary for
Seattle but number one receivers lately have crushed the Seahawks defense and
hopefully Marvin Harrison comes through so we'll start with the Cardinals in
their passing game Kyler Murray easy. I don't think anybody's concerned
about this matchup, correct?
Correct.
He's averaged 24 fantasy points per game
in his last six games against Seattle.
James Connor, well, I will talk about
the running games in a second.
Harrison, are we confident in Marvin Harrison Jr.?
Is this going to be a big game for him?
Is he going to live up to that stat
and keep that streak going for eight games in a row?
I'll say yeah. I've got him. I don't have him ranked as a top 12 receiver. And if you're
going to score over 16 PPR points, that is top 12 receiver range. Um, but he's, he's
just outside, let's call him a top 18 fantasy wide receiver, maybe even top 15, because
I think that the Cardinals can come out of the by and continue to reshape
how they use him. That's the thing that we complained about the most with Marvin Ayrson
at the beginning of the year was too many downfield targets, not enough short area targets,
too many downfield routes, vertical routes, not enough horizontal routes. They've started
to use them a little bit more in breaking out breaking routes. And I think that that
can make a big difference for his target volume and his production. And that's his best way of separating. He doesn't separate with speed. He's not like
Malik neighbors in that regard. He's an outstanding route runner and polished on top of it. They should
be using them that way and giving them more targets on top of it against the Seahawks.
I don't know if there's a defender who can keep up with them. Woolen, Witherspoon, they're good,
but I think he can break away from those
guys and have himself a pretty good game.
I'm willing to take the chance on it.
I just wish there was like some sort of trend.
Like I know they have been using them on those routes more recently.
It is recent game log is just a sporadic mess.
Like it's, it is just look at his yardage in his last five games and it's
zero 21 111 34 54.
He's, how do you make sense of it?
Yeah, I've got my in the projections. He's a number three wide receiver.
I pushed him up in the rankings to be a number two wide receiver.
I don't think I want to sit the upside because the upside is huge
and it's a good matchup, but I there.
It's not, it's not like we've started to change the way they're using him.
And so we're starting to see some consistency in his production.
He's got five targets in each of his last two games.
And yeah, he still has over 16 PPR points in one of those two.
I think when you look at his game log, if he doesn't score, he stinks.
And we've seen that he has two games this year with over a hundred yards and he scored in both
those games. But I think those, I don't think you're looking for a hundred yards here. I think
you're looking for an uptick in targets. And I think you're looking for a touchdown. And I think
both those things can happen against Seattle. I think I know the answer to this Marvin Harrison
Jr. CD lamb, Dave, you go. Marvin go lamb and you go lamb that's what I thought um
Marvin's two highest target games of the season are week two and week three
yeah he's he's been at seven targets or less than seven games in a row you know so it's not like
we're getting a huge volume of targets and you said it he did have five targets remember that
was the number going into last week's game last game for him was he needed six plus targets to be successful
And you know he said oh, we broke the streak he got five targets and had a big game
So we'll see what happens moving forward there with him Michael Wilson if you're desperate 26% rostered
He has not had a good stretch of games, but his last road game
He did have 14.1 PPR points again receivers have had some success against his team and then Trey McBride
He's got no receiving touchdowns yet this season which is frustrating uh he scored at least 11.1
ppr points in three games in a row i don't think anybody has a decision of we're not playing uh
thisley or john who or schoonmaker over trade mcbride i don't think that matters to anybody but
hopefully this is a breakout spot for him past five games seattle's allowed george kittle
in week six kyle pitts in week seven and Dalton Kincaid in week eight
to go 13.1 PPR points or more.
Kittle missed the rematch last week as we're aware.
And the game in between the other by week also
during this stretch of six weeks was the Rams game
where Davis Allen did not do very much.
Colleen Parks did not do very much.
So tight ends have had some success against this defense.
They are getting Jenkins back in their secondary.
So we'll see if that matters, but hopefully this is a blowup spot for
Trey McBride and then James Connor.
Any reservations?
I mean, Seattle has been somewhat okay against the run, um, recently, but,
uh, Connor, I like what I saw in week 10 when he had five catches for 80 yards.
Hopefully that's something that we see a little bit more of is, is Connor
and easy just said it and forget it this week.
Mustard.
I think it is 14.6 or more PPR points to three of the last four running backs at Seattle's taken on
13 plus to six running backs in their past seven games the Niners running backs
Combined for 28 non PPR points against them way back when I I don't think this is a great run defense at all
All right, let's go to the Seattle side of things
Anybody want to start Geno Smith?
No, he's a QB too.
Start him into the QB.
He's a bi-week QB.
So his last two games against Seattle last year,
17 points, excuse me, against Arizona,
17.8 fantasy points, 24.4.
He scored 15.7 points or less
in three of his last four games.
And here's what Arizona has done against quarterbacks recently.
We know some of these guys have been hot at times, certainly lately,
in terms of Justin Herbert and Tua Tunga-Vai Loa.
But they faced Herbert, Tua, Caleb Williams, and Aaron Rodgers.
And all four of those guys have scored 16.7 fantasy points or less.
I don't want to trust Geno Smith against his team.
It just feels like it's gonna be tough.
We'll talk about the passing game now, the receivers. So you got DK Metcalf and Jackson Smith in the jig bus
Both guys I think are gonna be ranked as starters. I know they are for me. I'm assuming for both you guys well
Yes, so Metcalf
14 PPR points last week in his first game back from the two-game masses with a knee injury
Here's what number one receivers have done against Arizona last three games
Obviously the quarterbacks have not done well. The wide receivers have
struggled also. Tyree Kell has the best game, 13.2 PPR points. DJ Moore, 7.3 points. Garrett
Wilson and Devante Adams, both exactly 9.1 PPR points. And no type, no, no receiver has
scored a touchdown against this defense in four games in a row. That's the Chargers,
the Dolphins, the Bears and the Jets. Here's what makes me a little bit skittish about DK Metcalf.
Last five games against Arizona overall.
So this is going back over two plus seasons.
17 catches, 170 yards and a touchdown
combined in those five games.
Only one game over 11 PPR points.
They seem to have his number.
Is it safe to start DK Metcalf?
I'm still starting him.
And I do think it's worth noting noting like he's played one game against
this defense with this defensive coordinator.
So it was a diff, like it was some of the same guys two and three years ago, but it
wasn't the same system.
They hire their defensive coordinator at the beginning of last year.
So I just can't like they've Arizona's defense has been really good as of late.
And if you look at the last four games, they look like, man, you, how is anybody
going to be good against them?
And if you look one more game, the Packers wide receivers had four touchdowns
and all like four different guys scored 15 fantasy points.
So I, I'm a little bit nervous about DK and Jason, but there's six teams on a
buy half the good wide receivers in the NFL or hurt.
I, they're both must starts for me.
And for Jason, we'll just give the numbers on Jason, 17 catches, 290 yards
and two touchdowns on 24 targets in his last two games, his last three games, at
least 12.9 PPR points or more.
So he's just on fire right now.
Um, and he did score 16.3 PPR points against the Cardinals in Seattle last
year, if that matters to you so against his defense
Heath clearly was a different player for for JSN as well
I agree with you difficult to bench them, but Josh Downs or Seattle receiver Dave
I've gotten Matt calf over downs. I believe I've done pounds over JSN
I've got both Seahawks and the game were
over JSN. I've got both Seahawks. And the game where JSN had, it was like four for 63 in a touchdown against the, against Arizona. DK didn't play. That was last year. That's why DK's only
played one game against this. Yeah. He did miss a game against. Sure. Sure. Sure. So what I see
with this Cardinals defense is a lot of zone coverage. They don't blitz a lot. Their pass rush
really hasn't been that good. They addressed it in the trade with Denver to get Baron Browning and they're
getting their first round rookie back, Darius Robinson, whatever good they can
bring will help this defense a lot.
And Gino isn't as good when he's pressured.
He's definitely more aggressive against man coverage than zone coverage.
So he's going to need volume.
He's got good volume.
It's, it's one of the reasons why I'm okay with JSN and DK. man coverage than zone coverage. So he's going to need volume. He's got good volume.
It's, it's one of the reasons why I'm okay with JSN and DK. It feels like the targets have been concentrated to those two guys over the
last, well, last week, obviously, but, uh, I don't know if we can really say
three or four weeks, but we haven't seen locket in a big role lately.
And so I'm thinking slash hoping that it's a lot of targets to Metcalf,
a lot of targets to JSN and those two guys kind of just bit by bit put it together to
give you at least 15 PPR points each. I don't know if I love them as much in non PPR because
I don't know how many big plays they're going to have against this defense.
And Tyler Lockett does have a good history against Arizona. 18 catches, 291 yards and
four touchdowns with three games of at least 15.1 PPR points in the last five, but nobody's
trusting him. He's got four targets or less in three games in a row. You're not going
to start a Seattle tight end. Just keep an eye on if in a desperate, you know, tight
end premium league, AJ Barnard, the last two games without fans has gotten you six catches,
42 yards. But fan, if he does return had scored at least 10 and a half ppr points in two or
three games prior to the injury are gonna take one final break our producer
Claire is gonna kill me because we're already over an hour Adams gonna murder
me when he finds out what the timestamps gonna be for this but we got two more
games to go here enough all right last two games are gonna knock these out in
less than 10 minutes so we got the Vikings and the Bears the stat of the
game that I do one I must have forgot it Bears. The stat of the game that I do on? I must have
forgot it. I didn't do a stat of the game for this one. All right. So the Vikings, we got Sam
Donald here. So Dave and I had a good discussion on Sam Donald. Heath, I'll let you break the tie.
So Dave likes Sam Donald this week taking on the Bears who are number one and fewest fantasy points
allowed to opposing quarterbacks. He has been very good lately, scored at least 22 fantasy points in
three of his last four games. But here's what the Bears have done so far this season. Trevor Lawrence
in week six is the lone quarterback with multiple touchdowns
against the bears and Lawrence Jane Daniels and Jordan love the only three
quarterbacks to go over 20 fantasy points against this defense.
So are you pro Sam Donald or anti Sam Donald in week number 12?
I view him kind of like Gino Smith, a high end QB two that I really don't want
to start, um, but there's six teams on a buy, so I might have to.
Listen, Jordan Love just barely got by by the skin of his teeth with a rushing touchdown
to get 20 fantasy points against this defense last week. And I think he was a third quarterback
all season to do it. So it is the worst matchup for opposing quarterbacks. I would like to sit
Sam Darnold. I would rather start Bo Nix. I'd rather start Anthony Richardson.
I'm not there yet with Richardson. I'm definitely there with Bo Nix. I'd start
Nix over Dornold and he's a low end starter for me. And it's been a little weird with this Bears
defense because like they took on Kyler Murray, James Conrad, a monster game. Kyler Murray didn't
have to do anything to throw against the Chicago D. But five fantasy points though, that's not having to do anything. That's pretty terrible.
But but it like that situation, I suppose is possible.
Like the Bears run defenses in that good.
If Aaron Jones can bounce back from what he's been over the last month, then yeah,
Aaron Jones could have a monster game and Sam Darnold doesn't do a lot in the game.
And he gives you a single digit fantasy points.
Last week, Jordan Love got over 20 fantasy points.
He also attempted just 17 passes in the game.
So there, there haven't been a lot of it.
Have there, or maybe the better question to ask you guys is, have there been
examples of quarterbacks with 30 plus pass attempts against Chicago that have
had the opportunity to put up big numbers and just didn't because they turn the
ball over a lot or they have a lot of classes through third CJ Stroud through 36 passes and scored 16 fantasy
points.
Trevor Lawrence,
Nico didn't Nico was that the game Nico got hurt in or was it a week?
No, I got her against Buffalo.
Okay.
So, okay.
So that's a good example.
CJ Stroud went in there against Chicago is a home game.
I remember that.
I know mixing it.
I believe mixing someone who got hurt in that game.
It's all coming back to me. But that's a good example of a quarterback who we had high expectations for, who had a lot of
opportunities to put up numbers and then didn't against the Chicago Bears defense. I think Darnold's been playing well
enough to warrant use as a top-12 quarterback, 22 or more fantasy points. In three of his past four games, he's the
number-nine quarterback in fantasy points per game on the year.
He's also attempted at least 32 pass attempts in each of his past three games.
That's been in line with Aaron Jones kind of seeing this,
this downslide in efficiency and you know how good his pass catchers are.
You saw that Jordan Love was beating up Chicago on deep balls last week.
Call him lucky, call him fortuitous.
That is definitely something that is in Sam Darnold's bag.
I said it on HQ, I'll say it again.
If you think Aaron Jones bounces back,
then don't trust Sam Darnold.
But I think Darnold's got a little bit more upside
than a lot of other quarterbacks
that are in that 12 to 16 range that you talked about, Eve.
And so I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt
in a tough matchup, sure.
But he's got a good offensive line protecting him
and he's played well.
I think
he deserves credit.
He did have over 30 past attempts two games ago against
Jacksonville and has a miserable day as well there. And that's
certainly not a caliber of defense comparatively to
Chicago. That's absolutely true. He could have a lot of volume
and still be Sam Darnold. I just don't want to trust them given
the track record of Chicago's defense so far against
opposing quarterbacks. You're starting Justin Jefferson doesn't matter what I tell you about stats.
Chicago's number one, a few of his fancy points, large receivers, nobody cares.
Jordan Addison and TJ Hockeson though, let's talk about those two guys because Addison
did tie a season high in targets last week with eight, did leave in the fourth quarter
with cramping, but he does have 15.1 PPR points in two of his past three games.
And last year again, Chicago, he did score in one of those matchups.
So is Jordan Addison in the streaming or
starting conversation in three receiver leagues? Streaming? Streaming slash
starting in a three wide receiver league? Yeah he's a low end right in
that Romeo Dobbs range of a low end number three wide receiver that you know
what if he goes out and catches five passes for 60 yards and scores a
touchdown nobody's really gonna be that surprised by it.
He's also, we're not going to be that surprised also if he has five fantasy points.
Dave, how do you feel about TJ Hawkinson?
Because one great game in the three that he's played, the one great game was against Jacksonville.
Ironically enough, the game that Sam Darnall struggled since Hawkinson has returned.
Chicago has allowed one touchdown to a tight end so far this season that was Chigokanko
in week one.
Hold on Trey McBride ran for a touchdown against Chicago so that's too that doesn't count that's I don't think TJ Hockinson is running for a touchdown but what if I liked Arnold I think I
do have to at least like Hockinson I don't have to love Addison either way although Addison does
have boom bus upside but I think that Hockinson does get a little bit more of an opportunity this week than he did last week.
Certainly can see him lining up against Chicago's linebackers
and making some plays.
Chicago's been playing with the backup safety.
Maybe he lines up against him for a couple of plays.
And I don't think this is going to be a blowout for Minnesota.
I think that they're actually going
to get a fight from Chicago, kind of like Green Bay
did last week.
And that's going to lead to volume and Arnold having to throw the ball at least 32 times like we've talked about
just like he has in the last few weeks and I think Hockinson sees a decent target share so I do like
him as a top. Heath give me your take on Aaron Jones because it's been rough 12.2 PPR points
or less in four games in a row but he hasn't scored touchdown since week seven last couple
games have been miserable.
He had the rib injury against Jacksonville in week 10.
And then last week against the Titans,
it was just awful 5.3 PPR points.
And that coincides with,
I don't know if wanting to get Camakers more work,
Jones being hurt, Jones struggling,
but Camakers does have at least 12 total touches
in each of his last two games.
And he caught a touchdown against Tennessee.
So is Aaron Jones still a safe number two running back?
He's a number two running back.
I think he's more of a low end number two running back.
It's a much better matchup for running backs than it is for quarterbacks.
And so I've got him, I think at RB 19, there are guys like he, and I don't really have
the, like there are guys that I've had the urge to do what you've done and move them
down even further, like behind Austin Eckler. I've not really had that urge with Aaron Jones because the
matchup is so good. If he's not good in this game, then I'm not sure I'm going to feel good about
starting him the rest of the year. So I watched this film last week and he looks fine. Like when
you watch him run, there's a night and day difference between him and Cam Akers in terms
of explosiveness and cutting and all that stuff. But for whatever reason, the Vikings were rotating series,
especially in the second half, where just, if it's your series, Aaron Jones, you're in.
If it's third down, whatever you're in, I shouldn't say third down because there were
a bunch of third downs where CJ Ham was in to pass protect. But the reason why Akers
scored last week, it wasn't because they used them at the goal line. That
was Cam Akers' drive, where he basically played the entire drive for Minnesota. So if they're rotating backs and they
continue to do it this week, that hurts the upside of Aaron Jones even more. So I've slowly moved him up actually in my
rankings. And I'm not sure if I'm going to keep him as high as I have him. I think he's like around 16 for me. He looks good, but I just don't know.
I don't know if he's going to get a ton of opportunities,
especially if Cam Akers is going to continue to rotate drives with him.
He does have a great history against the Bears. That's all with Green Bay. Last five games 60 carries,
345 yards, 3 touchdowns, 18 catches 18 catches 208 yards three touchdowns
So he's beat them up quite a bit in his career and we'll see if he can do something similar this week
All right, we'll do the the Bears quickly and then Dave's got a bounce then we'll finish up with the last game
Deandre Swift because nobody's starting Caleb Williams. Just too tough to trust
He did have 70 yards rushing the first game with Thomas Brown, but he hasn't scored touchdown since week six
So let's see another productive game for him, but don't love it this week.
DeAndre Swift is dealing with the groin injury was limited practice on Thursday.
He scored at least 14.2 PPR points in six of his last seven games, but
Minnesota's number two in few as fancy points allowed to posing running backs.
Only four running backs have scored more than 10 PPR points against
Minnesota this season is DeAndre Swift a safe number two running back this week?
I don't think he is.
Uh, I like how the Vikings run even played each of their last three.
And DeAndre Swift was saved by that long touchdown run last week against Green Bay.
And if there's a groin injury on top of it that's been limiting him in practice, it makes
me nervous.
I wonder how much he'll play.
Could he rotate drives with Roshan?
So low end number two, running back at best.
Roshan is 57 percent roster.
Just keep an eye on the injury report for DeAndre Swift.
If he somehow is downgraded and misses practice on Friday or they rule him out,
Roshan would be at least a flex option.
Did have 10 carries, 3 yards in the touchdown.
Last week against the Packers.
Heath, give me your take on the Bears receivers.
Again, DJ Moore, 13.7 PPR points.
Best game for him since week six.
Romo Dunze got at least six targets in four games in a row.
He had a good game with Thomas Brown, six for 65 on 10 targets and Kenan Allen's got 31 targets in his last four games, but has been absolutely miserable.
Only one game with double digits and PPR points this season.
Since their bye week, DJ Moore is third on the team in targets.
Last week, first game with a new offensive coordinator, DJ Moore was third on the team.
And it's Roma Dunze has been the best Bears wide receiver since week eight.
Last week, Roma Dunze was the best Bears wide receiver.
I think Roma Dunze might be the best Bears wide receiver.
And that's the way I'm ranking it this week.
He and DJ Moore are both number three wide receivers.
He and Alan should be.
AQ he's really testing the limits of how many targets a wide receiver can see
and not be good in fantasy.
It's incredible.
Um, but you can't start them.
Dave final word.
Final word is more in Odunze are number three wide receivers and Kenan
Alan in non PPR leagues, I think you can cut them and in non PPR leagues I think you can cut him
and in full PPR leagues he's a good bench receiver and a good bye week guy. I had an awesome time
hanging with you on the show today. I appreciate what you're doing and good for 12. There you go.
All right last game Heath let's fight this quickly. Eagles and Rams, stat of the game,
Philadelphia is loud only one touchdown to a wide receiver since week four. That's a span of six go Dak Prescott and Washington last week with Jane Daniel. So Jamar chase the only wide receiver to score double digits in PPR points against the Eagles in their last six games. Are we sure? Are
we sure that it's safe to start Cooper cup and Pukinakua? We're not, but there are six teams on
a buy and half the good wide receivers in the NFL are hurt. And I'm starting both Cooper cup and
Pukinakua. Um, I, I'm just going to start them. I feel like an idiot moron if I set one of
them and they scored 20 fantasy points.
Right. But not an easy matchup by any stretch. All right. So we're starting Jalen Hurts.
I'm just going to fly through the must start guys. Jalen Hurts, starting Jalen Hurts,
starting Saquon Barkley, starting AJ Brown. Hopefully Brown may benefit if Devante Smith
does not play. He missed practice on Wednesday and Thursday with the hamstring injury. But
what we've seen from AJ Brown is he's not scored a touchdown since week seven and it's been basically a miserable stretch of games for him
based on the expectations. 15.9 PPR points against Dallas but 13.4 against the Bengals,
5.6 against Jacksonville, he left that game and 11.5 PPR points last week against Washington.
So hopefully this is a bounce back spot for him. If Devontae Smith does not play,
how much more do we like Dallas Goddard?
I would move him up.
So I've got him behind three streamers right now.
I would definitely move him ahead of Luke Skoonmaker.
I'd probably move him ahead of Zach Hertz.
I think I'd move him ahead of Will Disley.
I think he'd be a top eight tight end for me if there was no Devontae Smith.
And look for what it's worth.
Goddard now he's benefited with AJ Brown missing time.
He's benefited with Devontaeith banged up a little bit
He scored at least 10 and a half ppr points in his in four healthy games in a row now
He missed a stretch of time during that game that he misses a stretch of games during that time as well
But he has been productive did have five catches 61 yards on five targets last week against washington
So uh, he's giving you a decent floor and maybe this ceiling, you know
Ticks up a little bit if davante smith does play knowing that he's banged up knowing that he struggled the last two games. Would you even consider starting?
I think you have to consider it. He is right in the Christian Watson, Quentin Johnston, Romeo Dobbs range for me, a very low end number three or a high end flex in this offense with the as efficient as they
have been throwing the ball.
I get any moment he could have a 40 yard receiving touchdown.
So he's definitely in consideration, but he's not you can't feel any security about it at
all.
Last two games again, six catches 43 yards, no touchdowns, only nine targets.
So maybe this hamstring injury is bothering him and you know that the Eagles are looking
like a strong playoff contender.
They may want to rest him to make sure he's ready for the stretch runs.
Just something to keep an eye on there.
We'll find out what the Friday practice report is.
Check out CBSsports.com for the latest update.
All right.
So Puganakua-Cooper Cup, their must-start receivers.
They've been awesome since coming back.
The only game where Pugko was bad was when he threw a punch.
But again, difficult matchup against a very good Eagle secondary.
Matthew Stafford, however.
So this is one of those situations that I'm going to guess we're probably on the same
page. We like the receivers. We don't like the quarterback. So Stafford however, so this is one of those situations that I'm gonna guess we're probably on the same page. We like the receivers, we don't like the quarterback.
So Stafford has played well. He does have 21.9 fantasy points in three of his last four
games. And he did have 35.8 points last week against New England. He was a monster against
the Patriots. But the Eagles number five and fewest fantasy points allowed to pose in quarterback.
So just easy sit him, only start him in Super Flex two quarterback leagues.
Yeah, absolutely. Easy sit.
And then let's just wrap up here with uh with Kyron Williams because similar Aaron Jones he's in a slump 11.2 PPR points are
less than three games in a row and this is a very difficult matchup. The Eagles are number six and
fewest fantasy points allowed to opposing running backs just three touchdowns to running backs all
season. Now Williams did not have a target against Patriots prior that he caught five passes for 20
yards on six targets against Miami. He also caught five passes for 19 yards in a touchdown, seven
targets against Minnesota.
That was tough matchup as well.
In week eight, how much does his work in the passing game matter to
you to trust him this week against this defense?
Yeah.
I mean, I'm kind of, it is a terrible matchup and he's not been good lately,
but I'm just kind of viewing him like Cooper cup and Pugin Akua.
I'm going to start Kyron William.
He's a top 12 running back.
I think the touchdowns will come back at some
point. He had six touchdowns in a four-week stretch and now he's had zero in a four-week stretch.
I still think he's a very good candidate to score a rushing touchdown. If he gets the work in the
passing game, he's got a good chance to be a top five running back. And it was like he had five
catches two weeks ago. He had five catches four weeks ago. He has two other games this season with four catches. So it has happened sporadically. It's just that when they don't
use him in the passing game, they really don't use him. It's nothing.
I hope he does get involved and just think about what happened last week with the commanders.
They used Austin Echler as a huge weapon out of the backfield. Maybe they do the same thing
the Rams do with Kyron Williams. So hopefully that will help his, uh, his fantasy production in this matchup. This was going
to be the game of the week. I didn't have the song queued up, but we were going to get
Dave on this one because I think this is going to be the most fun game to watch at least
of the NFC slate, but a lot of good games for this weekend. Make sure you check out
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Thanks everybody for watching, listening.
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