Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC): Panthers RBs and WRs, Bucs Pass Catchers, Giants Offense and More (10/24 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 24, 2025

Justin Herbert dazzled last night while Quentin Johnston was invisible. We react to Vikings-Chargers including our thoughts on Oronde Gadsden and Justin Jefferson going forward ... News and notes (13:00) and One Question for Each Game (19:50)! Start or Sit Jaxson Dart? Jauan Jennings? Jaylen Warren? Jaylen Waddle? Tez Johnson? Cade Otton? Rico Dowdle? ... Start or Sit for 49ers-Texans (26:50), Packers-Steelers (33:45), Dolphins-Falcons (43:10), Giants-Eagles (51:00), Bucs-Saints (1:01:00) and Bills-Panthers (1:10:00) ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

With Instacart, you get groceries that over-deliver, so you can over-share your preferences. Want russet potatoes with no brown spots? You got it. Want turnips that look light, but feel heavy? Easy. Want honey-crisp apples that are firm, green, and definitely not Macintosh like last year when you lost the fall bake-off to perfect Penelope Johnson? Okay, a bit TMI, but we're here for it.

So download the app today and get $0 delivery fees on your first three orders. Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. Service fees, exclusions, and terms apply. This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? It's a no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league.

Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. We have got six games to preview today. We're really sitting Jalen Waddle in a tough matchup, Atlanta hosting Miami. Green Bay is at Pittsburgh. It's not a revenge game, but it's a big game for Aaron Rogers. San Francisco's at Houston.

The Giants are at Philadelphia. It's a rematch. Tampa Bay is at New Orleans, and Buffalo is at Carolina. Hey, man, that Carolina run events has been really good. I know you're going to start James Cook, but hopefully he comes through for you this week after two straight duds. Good morning, everyone. Happy Friday.

Trunk or treat tonight for me. Pump for that. And, oh, by the way, welcome to fantasy football today. presented by BEDMGM, make it legendary. I have a legendary offer for Dave Richard, an invitation. Oh, is this for trunk or treat? No, you can't come to trunk or treat. But Dan Schneier is not going to be on the mailbag today.

What time are you recording? Noon. I have to prepare for a player prop show at 1 p.m. Okay, it's up to you. Amy has just learned about this player prop show that I've been doing for five years, by the way. and that I have a specific nickname for the show. I know you did the show. Oh, okay, okay.

But thanks for watching. Because every episode for the past five years, I've gone by the nickname Uncle Dave. I really do not wish to be called that on this show. It's funny. It's happening. Now it's happening because I brought it up. Okay, fine.

I'll be everybody's freaking uncle forever. But if you're bored and doing nothing, 1 p.m. Eastern, CBS Sports Network. early at Genefel Player Prop Show, I went two and two on props last week, which is actually a good week for me, considering this season, it's been terrible how unlucky I've been with player props this year. I've been better with fantasy. Let's talk about fantasy.

If I can make the early portion of the mailbag, I'll be there. Okay, great sales pitch for the show, by the way. Chargers 37. We have people on the show who are much sharper than I, at least this season they have been. previous years, I've been one of the sharper guys. Chargers 37 and Minnesota 10, it was just domination. The Chargers had the ball for 39 minutes. Vikings had the ball just under 21 minutes for them.

We did have a lot of injuries, unfortunately. For the Chargers, Derwin James left in the first quarter and Guard, Mackay Beckton left in the first quarter. For the Vikings, Christian Dara, I mean, this didn't help. Christian Dara saw played 18% of the snaps. And then later in the game, cornerback, Jeff Okuda, love with the concussion. The Vikings get Detroit next week if J.J. McCarthy is,

healthy enough. He will be the starter. Obviously, if you watch the game, Carson Wentz, is not exactly healthy enough. The Titans, uh, the Titans, yeah, are the next matchup for the Chargers. Jamie Fantasy takeaways, just so you know, the energy I'm providing today, I am faking it. I'm in a terrible mood. It is a Quentin John, it is a nice start to Quentin Johnston in four leagues induced terrible mood. I am afraid that he might be done as a fantasy starter. I feel like there'll be a week where he, you know, goes back. But I'm pit. I'm annoyed. Um, your thoughts on the, uh, the Chargers offense. which was great last night on only 25 pass attempts or something like that, which is a season low.

Justin Herbert was a stud, and Aranda Gasson continues to prove that he's a must-start tight end. So three straight games now of excellent production. I think you're right, Quentin Johnson's the one that feels like he's going to be left out of the fun. There'll be a big player or two. I'm sure he'll still find the end zone on occasion, but this was disappointing to see. And Kamani Vidal, there's going to be some staying power. Daniel Popper of the Athletic tweeted after the game that Marian Hampton's still in a walking boot.

So this is now week five is when he got injured. And we are going into week nine for them that he's still in a walking boot. So not great if you're waiting for him to come back or at least start his comeback. So Vidal looked great. That was the biggest prize for me. I didn't think Vidal would be as good as he was.

And so two games out of three where he's a must start running back. And I think that's going to continue. Jamie, they play the Titans next week. They do. Then they play the Steelers and the Jaguars. Those are pretty solid run defenses. Then they have a buy.

Jamie, Kamani Vidal, start of the week. Yeah, maybe. Do it. Do it. On the other side of the ball, is Jordan Mason done? Dave. I don't know if done is the right word, I don't know if I'm going to trust them next week at Detroit.

That feels like another game where game script could get away. He played 35% of the snaps because the Vikings fell behind. This was a tale of two offensive lines, in my opinion. The Chargers' offensive line got its best linemen back. The Vikings lost their best offensive linemen 18 snaps into the game. They were already without their right tackle. So they had backup tackles in and they fell behind early. And that just, it crushed Jordan Mason.

I feel awful about recommending Jordan Mason. And so anytime you look at a matchup for Minnesota, now that Aaron Jones is back, and maybe even if Aaron Jones hadn't have been back, if there's, if there isn't a pathway where you feel like the Vikings will be competitive going well into the second half, you can't feel good about starting Jordan Mason. So probably going to put the red light on him for week nine against the lines. But even in the first three quarters, even on the opening possession, Aaron Jones was playing. Oh, he started the game.

Yeah, right. Jones was playing ahead of him. Mason, it was almost like Mason became the third downback. I'm going to look right now at the... No, I've got the snaps and the third down stuff. Okay, so was Jones still the third down back? Because on the opening drive, it was Mason. But Jones...

They split third down work in the first three quarters. I think they did. They did. They did. Both as flex options like we did at the start of the season. Probably the right thing to do. 7-11 third downs for Jones. They each had one snap inside the 10.

It was just awful. It was an awful game all the way around for the Vikings. This is the week where you wanted to play against Justin Jefferson. Because the numbers were okay, but, man, just ugly look for this Vikings team that couldn't protect Carson once. Let's talk about Justin Jefferson, and then we'll move on here. Justin Jefferson right now per game is wide receiver, I'm going to remove Rishi Rice and Jaden Reed, who's they've played one game. He's wide receiver 17 and non-PPR.

He's wide receiver 16 and half PPR, and he's wide receiver 14 per game in close 14 per game in full PPR Justin Jeffer oh you know what that this is not even updated that is going into last night so he's probably he's probably still like close to 8 let's say he's 18ish per game he's had two good two good games like two really good games two games two games with more than 14 or 15 fantasy points this year Jamie it's one touchdown obviously but you know are there are there major concerns here do you think Justin Jefferson's going to be a big bust. I mean, based on where he's kind of hovering right now, then, yes, you'd say he's a bust because

he was a top five overall pick or top seven overall pick at worst. I still think there's plenty of big production coming for him, so I would be looking to buy low if the Jefferson manager is selling. So hopefully McCarthy can be better than whence. I don't think that's a big stretch. You know, we saw one good game from him, one good quarter from him, I guess you want to be fair. but one good game from McCarthy and one terrible game from McCarthy.

And again, the terrible game seems to be against what is looking like a very good defense in Atlanta in week two. And at what point did he injure his ankle because he finished the game? So I'm going to be hopeful. I do think that the other part of this is that Jordan Addison has been really good and they're continuing to give him opportunities, which they should. But we just got finished talking about how the run game could struggle. and if the defense continues to look like this, then they're probably going to be chasing points,

which I think will help Jefferson's numbers. So, again, if I'm looking at the Jefferson manager and they're below 500, I'm going to try and make offers. Okay. I think it really is just touchdowns for the most part. I mean, he's still getting plenty of targets. He's still getting plenty of – let me just see if I can get his – all right, here's the 17-game pace for Justin Jefferson.

While I get that, Dave, any final thoughts on this game? Any other players you want to talk about? Addison, Hawkins. McConkey, Keenan Allen, whatever it may be. If you had told me before the game that Josh Oliver would get hurt and Derwin James would get hurt, I'd be a big fan of T.J. Hawkinson. And I have not been a big fan of T.J. Hawkinson for, it's got to be like a calendar year by now. And seeing him not even get five PPR points is pretty disappointing.

Okay. Yeah, I think it's pretty easy to. Oh, we could not not talk about Arronda Gadsden. What's to talk about? What's to say? he only had five targets is almost all early but you know just like almost entirely the first half right

I think so keep writing it out sell buy like buy sell hold irani gadsden I saw everybody just comment in the chat about being a McBride owner

and looking to sell so like there are a lot of scenarios like that right we have a port on a buy we have McBride on a buy Bowers on a buy plus injury so that goes one of two ways right you can write it out

with Gadsden and sell the bigger name player and maybe get something great in return, or you can try and sell Gadsden and get something quality in return. I don't know how many people want to, unless your team is in trouble, start two tight ends or start a tight end and flex. But if this is going to be the norm, then I'm not saying the production, the opportunities, the targets, the playing time, then he's going to have a chance to be one of those fringy flex plays on a week-to-week basis. So I think there's a there is a sell opportunity for several fantasy managers here again whether you're in a good spot with your tight end and you just picked him up because he was the best available

player or you needed him because of a buy week so you can you can treat that either way you want to you know sell the bigger name player or try and sell gas all right Justin Jefferson a little you're clearly playing gatson over the heaven ingrams at this point the hawkinsonsons at this point probably in the joku at this point um you know the Kelsey Kelsey maybe yeah all right all right guys that's it for Chargers and Vikings, Justin Jefferson, a little bit off his pace. 17-game paces, 100 catches, 1,462 yards, 2 touchdowns on 153 targets. It's not bad.

If that were like 10 touchdowns, that's still a first-round player. All right. Listen to us on Spotify, you know, if you want to give that a shot, trying to grow our audience on Spotify. And you can leave us comments on Spotify, too, and we'll throw them in the mailbag. We're also going to do some Facebook questions. We have a Facebook group that you can join. Fantasy Football today, just search for that on Facebook, and we'll be reading some of those on the mailbag today.

It's also time for football at BetMGM, of course, and register with BetMGM to get instant access to the best variety of Parlay selection features, no sweat and boost tokens, live betting options, and much more. New players can receive up to $1,500 back in bonus bets with the bonus code fantasy if they don't win their first bet.

You don't want to miss out on any of the hard-hitting action at bet MGM. Place your money line, parlay bets, and more today. Bet MGM, make it legendary. News and notes. Lamar Jackson's still limited, but we are ranking him, expecting him. Jane and Daniels out. Bryce Young, we're not expecting him. Brock Purdy, limited.

Not expecting him. Michael Pennix. We are expecting him. And do you have any guesses as to who's going to be the Jets quarterback? Did I miss anything? We still just don't know. I would guess Tarad, but... But he's on the injury report.

Yeah, the report was that he should be good enough to play, but he is questionable with a knee injury. Breece Hall was limited. After the way this week has gone, I'd be surprised if Fields is the choice of the Jets coaching staff. If they're forced to start him because Tarad can't play, then so be it. And we expect Brise Hall to play, but he is dealing with a knee injury. Tony Pollard, did he get back to practice?

yesterday. That's one I did not see. I can find out if you'd like. Yeah, go ahead and take a look at that. Kareem Hunt missed practice, but Andy Reid is optimistic about Kareem Hunt's playing. Tyler Algier's been limited. We're going to talk about him soon. Wide receiver. All right. Jaden Waddle,

what you say? He missed practice Wednesday because of rest, Tony Pollard. My bad. I think he's full practice on Thursday. I think he's good to go. That's excellent for the 15% of people that are going to be forced to start Tony Pollard. this week. Yeah, I'm raising my hand,

unfortunately. Hey, well, he'll do better than Jordan Mason. He'll do better than Quinn Johnson. DJ Moore, you know, okay, so I'm not going to go through all of it. Here are the ones that we need to know about. First of all, Jaylen Waddle mispractice. We expect him to play? Yeah. Yeah.

All right. Washington. Terry McLoren and Debo Samuel practiced in full. That's great news. That's their first practice of the week. See if they dial it back today. But, Jamie, thoughts on the commander's wide receivers, Monday night of Kansas City. Similar to what we said yesterday.

Debo, I put right around 22, 23, and McLaurin just inside the top 30. So hoping that he's going to be good, just to get in a little bit more faith in Debo right now based on what we've seen from him over the course of the season. But obviously, they're playing a really good defense and it's Mariotta. So just I would keep expectations in check. Well, it's interesting you say that because my expectations are sky high for Debo. Just knowing how he's played this year, practicing in full is a really good sign. this is a team that's not going to be able to run the ball very well.

They haven't been able to run the ball very well. I'm way encouraged by Debo Samuel. So I'd love to hear a little bit more about why you're not, given how effective he's been, even when Terry McLaurin has played this year. What was it one game? I know. I think it was three games.

It was at least two. So we've covered all the possibilities, one game, three games. Uh, I, you know, just coming back from injury, I want to see what it looks like and, and it's, it's three games. Uh, just, just see what it looks like with, you know, backup quarterback being there. So, like, I know you're not a big fan of Waddle. How do you rank Waddle compared to the commander's receivers? Debo Wadle, McCl. Okay. And I've got McClorn a spot head of Waddle because I'm not excited about Waddle either. Um, all right. That's interesting. Okay. And then we're not expecting Ricky Pyrsall. Calvin Ridley's been out. not expecting Kirk or Collins for Houston. I think we probably are expecting Josh Downs. He's been practicing in full now, but he's still in the

concussion protocol. Olave's good to go. Apparently, Denver could be looking to trade for a wide receiver, according to CBS Sports is Jonathan Jones. Don Tavian Wicks is likely out. Christian Watson plans to play. And then there's the big one, guys. A.J. Brown. He has mispracticed twice.

I was looking online to see if there was anything. Apparently this one Philly reporter said this is the same injury he dealt with in the preseason. And they have their buy next week. So don't be surprised if AJ Brown does not play, but we don't know. All right. Tight end.

Nojoku was limited. It's obviously a big deal. Dalton Kincaid was limited. Mason Taylor missed practice. Joanne Johnson practiced. But Dave, are we ranking Dalton? I think you are ranking Dalton Kincaid. Yes. Expecting him? Okay.

Yeah. Dave told us not to rank Dalton Kincaid this week. Did I? Yes. All right. Then I should not have ranked Dalton. Okay. Cheater.

My bad. I'll pull him. And then the team, the defensive injury. You both wait until the afternoon because you might practice in full. Okay. The defensive injuries. Well, I can't believe I did that. Ravens are getting healthier.

They get the bears. The Giants, three of their top defensive players mispractice again. They're at Philadelphia. Sauce Gardner missed practice again. So those are kind of the big ones. Taking a break, one question for each game when we come back. Oh, Stead on IR. Did you see it?

I did see that, yeah. So Legerius needs on IR, Jeffrey Simmons is week to week. So the Titans are just a mess. Colts are going to destroy them. And we'll be right back on fantasy football today. I have to tell you about this game-changing product I use before a night out with drinks. It's called pre-alcohol. Zbiotics pre-alcohol probiotic drink is the world's first genetically engineered probiotic.

It was invented by Ph.D. scientists to tackle rough mornings after drinking. Fall is here, and that means it's time to enjoy cooler weather and some drinks out with friends, whether you're enjoying a pint at a fall festival or a spooky cocktail at a Halloween party. Don't forget to drink a pre-alcohol before drinking. You'll be able to celebrate and still wake up feeling great the next day. Go to Zbiotics.com slash FFT to learn more and get 15% off your first order when you use FN. FFT at checkout. Zbiotics is backed with 100% money back guarantee.

So if you're unsatisfied for any reason, they'll refund your money. No questions asked. Remember to head to Zbiotics.com slash FFT and use the code FFT at checkout for 15% off. That's annoying. What? You're a muffler.

You don't hear it? Oh, I don't even notice it. I usually drown it out with the radio. How's this? Oh, yeah. Way better. Save on insurance by switching to Bell Air Direct and use the money to fix your car.

Bel Air Direct. Insurance, Simplified. Conditions apply. We are back. Welcome back, everybody. Hope they're having a happy Friday and into a good weekend here. Remind me if we have time at the end of the show. We just saw Paramount Plus promo. I wanted to talk about the movie I watched on Paramount Plus. One of the most ridiculous movies, but a feel-good fun one. And also, Mayor of Kingston this weekend. Holy Can't even know. One of my favorites. Paramount Plus is great. Okay, one question for each game. San Francisco is at Houston. Dave Richard, what are your expectations for the 49ers passing game?

It's a brutal matchup, and there's a lot up in the air. So what are your expectation for the Niners passing game? Don't want to start either 49ers wide receiver. If I had to pick one, it would be Joanne Jennings. I'm going right back to George Kittle, and that's probably, is there anybody else I would even think about considering from the 49ers pass game? I think the answer to that is no, other than Christian McCaskill. affery, but everybody's starting him for obvious reasons.

Okay, the only two receivers who have really done well against the Texans are Pookinakua and JSN. Green Bay is at Pittsburgh. Jamie, do you like Jalen Warren and or D.K. Metcalfe in this game? I'm starting both. I mean, you know, normal week, I would probably be a little bit more concerned about these guys. It's a good run defense, but I think what we'll see from Warren is a lot of work in the passing game. So he's a number two running back. And for Metcalf, I mean, you're starting to see prior to last week, but the connection was there. I think you're still starting him based on what the hopeful game script will be, which is they're probably throwing a lot. Green Bay and Pittsburgh, yeah. Actually, those two teams see defensively the most pass

attempts. They're 30, they're one and two. Almost 40 attempts at game. I don't think we'll see that from the Packers, though. Agreed. Well, that's it, I don't think we'll see that. That's the thing. they're both run heavy teams. Aaron Rogers, I don't know what his season high is. It might be like 34 or maybe he had one game. But he pretty much, like last week that shootout against the Bengals to do 34 passes, I think. They're a very slow offense.

And the Packers, the Packers have the fourth lowest pass rate in football. So it's interesting. It's two run heavy teams facing each other and those teams defensively see a ton of pass attempts. past temps are great. I hope we get that kind of game. Miami is at Atlanta. You guys are both kind of low on Jalen Waddle.

We're really sitting Jalen Waddle this week, Dave? I think you should try to. There's a pretty gross track record of how outside wide receivers have done against the Falcons this year. It's like Justin Jefferson, Mike Evans, Ted McMillan, Kendrick-Born, guys that are like predominantly outside wide receivers.

They play a lot of the routes or get a lot of routes from week to week that just get shut down. And this Dolphins offense is in rough shape right now. I think they probably, I think they're going to try and run the ball a little bit more and maybe revert back to last year with a bunch of just short throws, get the ball out of two his hands faster. I don't think the solution is letting two a throw downfield because that could end

and just, I mean, we already know how that could end. So Waddle is someone that I think you should downgrade expectations for. A bunch of other receivers. I'd rather start both commanders' receivers coming back from injury. rather start Zayflowers, assuming that Lamar Jackson plays. Tough call between him and Stefan Diggs. Diggs against Cleveland. Right now I have Waddle a couple spots ahead.

I think I could see myself flipping that and put Diggs ahead of Waddle. Okay. How about Waddle or Wondale? Wando. In full PPR, you can absolutely make the case for Wondale Robinson. As silly as this all sounds, it's just, it's a vote of no confidence against the dolphins. And a Falcons defense that's played really well against the past.

Amazing. It's fantastic. They get to the quarterback. They've got a great corner. Giants at the Eagles. Jamie, do you like the Giants? I'm going to give you when we get to this game. I'm going to tell you where all of their skill position players rank since Jackson Dart took over.

It's pretty high. You have confidence to the Giants' offense this week? Moderately. I think, you know, you get the Eagles healthier than they were the last time these two teams met, and that's a big problem. So Scataboo is a must start given the week. in what he's done. I think Wando's a must start giving the week in what he's done. And that's really it.

I think Dart is a questionable starter. Tampa Bay is at New Orleans. Rank these four. Tess Johnson. Kate Otten. Rashid Shaheed. Alvin Kamara. Otten, Kamara,

Tez, Shahit. Okay. So for me, three of them are very close together and they are Kamara, Tez, and Atten, and then Shaheed brings up the rear. Okay. Boy, Mike Evans, man. He was finally going to get to face the Saints without Latimore. Such a shame.

But that was always one of my favorite fantasy things, because he just never did well against the Saints. Didn't he face them last year after he was traded? I don't know. I think so. That sounds familiar. Well, we'll look at it. Sorry.

I'm looking. I got it. Okay. Do you remember what we used to do the quicker, slicker, Looker upper, Davy. Because he can't say it. Dave's like, I got it. I'll look it up.

Buffalo and Carolina. Jamie, start or sit? Rico Dowdall. Start. Number two, running back. I agree with that. Week 18 against the Saints. Mike Evans had 14 targets,

nine catches, 89 yards. That was the game that he needed to get, oh, yeah. Like 85 yards in to break 1,000 for the 12th consecutive year, whatever the stretch that he had going was. and there was like a turnover late in the game that opened the door for Evans to get there and he got there.

I can't wait until he comes back for the last four games of the season and he goes for 250. Buffalo, by the way, is struggling against the run. They allow the six most fantasy points to running backs. All right, that's it for one question

for each game. Rico Dowdell, you know, hopefully he can earn more carries and not just alternate drives. All right, here we go. Let's get into it. There's more than just alternate. drives. Chuba Hubbard was dominating on third downs and near the goal line. It was gross.

San Francisco is that, well, then how can you tell me that Rico Doudal's a start? Because I'm hoping that the coaching staff in Carolina saw what everybody else saw, and that is a much faster running back. Someone who could read the offensive line quicker, hit the holes quicker, and just be a more efficient runner than what we got out of Chuba Hubbard. And it is Hubbard's first game back, so maybe there's some rust that he needed to knock off. But I just, I can't believe they're going to have them split so closely again. So I'm hoping Dowdell has, A, he keeps the efficiency that he had, not just last week, but in the games prior. And B, he gets more opportunities in a game where the Panthers should try and run the ball as much as they can. Just kidding.

It would have been really fun just based on that long thing. Not long, what, 15 seconds? Is that long? You would go for like a minute. I'll be more succinct. No, it's okay. It just would have been funny to break that out there. But I couldn't in good conscience make that the game of the week.

San Francisco is at Houston. All right. I don't really have a great stat of the game. I'll save this one. We'll get to it. Jamie, give me the lay of the land for this game and who you want to start and who you want to sit, San Francisco at Houston. I mean, this is a great one.

McCaff, Dave basically said it. You're starting McCaffee. You're starting Kittle. I think that's it for San Francisco. Mack Jones, he hasn't turned into a pumpkin yet, but he's turned into more of a game manager, especially as he's been managing through injuries. So the receivers are definitely hands-off,

especially if Pearsall somehow manages to practice this week. Or practice to stay, excuse me. Nico would be a must start if he practices because he's coming through the concussion protocol, but it does not sound like he's going to play. And I think Woody Marks is a flex, maybe a number two running back, depending on what your roster looks like.

He's my favorite Texans player if there is no Nico Collins. I'm sorry, Dalton Schultz and Woody Marks. Shultz deserves to be in a lab. But that's another guy we've got to keep an eye on from an injury perspective. He's been banged up. But Schultz is in that starting conversation as well. So I would start him ahead of Travis Kelsey, for example. I would start him ahead of Mason Taylor if you're looking at the streaming options.

And I would have started him ahead of Hawkinson behind Gadsden. So like the opportunity for Schultz, eight PPR points or more in four straight games, had the spike game last week when Nico Collins left. And so you could take a fly. on Jalen Knoll or maybe Jaden Higgins just with the both guys being out if that happens, but I don't really want to trust them as anything more than desperation number three receivers. I really like Dalton Schultz. He's this again, like Jamie said, Nico Collins has to be out.

But this is the guy who has the most time banked with C.J. Stroud. They're going to have that connection that they've had for a couple of years now. 49ers allowed almost 13.2. I was going to say almost 13. It was over 13 PPR points to Kyle Pitts last week. When they lost Fred Warner, they put in Tatum Bethune as the replacement at linebacker, and he's been really good against the run.

He's been terrible in coverage. Every target against him so far in this little time span that he's been starting and playing for the Niners, every single target against him has been caught by opponents. And I think that we're in line for like a potential 7 for 80 type game from Dalton Schultz. Big fan of his this week. Oh, damn. has Tatum Bethune in the IDP League

and I'm facing Jamie this week and Jamie's up 33 to nothing that sounds like he started Justin Herbert now he didn't he started Kamani Vidal and Justin Jefferson okay um that's the extent of my good players though good good I know you have Tatum

Bethune are you going to be affected your Dalton Schultz enthusiasm if Nico plays which seems unlikely I'm sure that would change it let's just say real quick if Christian Kirk played would that change anything for you

with Dalton Schultz no again you look at what he's what he's been with those guys healthy and the floor is pretty steady so i probably would go mason taylor over him if one of the receivers plays because of the matchup that taylor has but you are talking about just a great opportunity here for dalton shultz if those guys are not there okay let's talk about first george kittle tell me why you're just going right back to him and as a must start guy right i think he's top five for you guys, Dave. Are you not familiar with the athletic stylings of George P. Kittle?

I agree with you. I just full of doing. I know. I just, last week's talk, it was terrible, only two targets, but we talked about this earlier in the week.

He played a ton. That's encouraging. The matchup against Houston is actually more favorable for him than it is for the other receivers that the 49ers have. I think it's going to be a focal point of this offense to get him more involved. The one worry could be, are they going to ask him to stay in to block a little bit more because the Texans have such a good pass rush that they might feel the need to kind of add some support for their tackles against them? And that's silly to say because they've got Trent Williams, but Trent Williams isn't the same Trent Williams as he's been in the past. So I know what the upside is.

It's a little bit of FOMO, but also a lot of, well, he's not going to see Stingley. He's not going to see Lasseter. This is probably where the 49ers should go. Let's not forget, which is surprising that they did it this day on a bye week for Sam Leporta and Trey McBride and Brock Bowers. Sunday's National Tight Ends Day, which is George Kittles Day. That is a good point. Oh. All right.

So listen, Woody Marks is like kind of right around 12. I think Kittl did it on purpose when he was like, you know, too young tight ends are coming off these big years. I get this day to myself, essentially. Basically. I mean, he's like, Arronda Gadsden's going to be playing on Thursday. But Woody Marks, let's talk about him. Marks or Dowdell? I believe I have Dowdle higher.

Dowdle. Yeah, I mean, I wish I had more enthusiasm about starting marks. I'm starting him in one league as a flex because Kyron's on a buy. 49ers have been pretty good against the run. I thought that would go away without Fred Warner, but they held, and it might. But last week, Bejohn Robinson had 14 carries for 40 yards. So let's finish with some questions here. Woody Marks or Jacori Kroski Merritt?

Mark's for me. Me too. Start two of this group. Kittal, Kraft, Dowdell, Wondale-Robinson. We don't know the format, right? I would go the tight ends.

I've got Kittle and Robinson. Robinson one spot ahead of Kraft. That's full PPR. Born or Mims? Mims. Marvin Mims. Born or Jennings. Who's your favorite?

Niners. receiver? Born for me. Jennings. And they'd be ahead of all the Texans receivers? Yeah. Unless Nico plays. Yeah.

Woody Marks or Rico Dowdell, PPR? Dowell. Same. I think I asked you that. Sorry. Dowdell, Chase Brown, Tetaroa, McMillan, start two. Why am I reading that?

But you can read it anyway. You can answer it anyway. Why are you reading that? Yeah. You're the host. There's no one. in this game. There's no one in the

Houston I go with the Panthers. I think I would too. Where do I have Chase Brown in my stupid rankings? Yeah, I have

I have Tett and Chase Brown ahead of Dottal. Schultz versus Fanon versus Pitts. Shultz? If Nizjoka plays? Yeah.

So if Nijoka plays, it would be Pitts-Shultz fanning for me. If the joke was out, it would be Fanon, Pitts, Schultz. Okay. And that'll do it. All right. Oh, the DSTs. Do you like both

DSTs? Which one do you prefer? The Texans. Same. All right. Green Bay is at Pittsburgh. Stats and O is, yeah, these two teams see the most past attempts per game in the NFL. And Pittsburgh has allowed 90 or more receiving yards to

seven wide receivers in six games, but they're pretty much all studs. It's Cooper Cup and it's Garrett Wilson, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba, Justin Jefferson, Jordan Addison, T. Higgins, Jemar Chase. So I know Heath was very high on Romeo Dobbs. I think let's take, instead of, you know, how do you feel about Romeo Dobbs? Jamie, just this environment, the run-heavy nature of these teams versus the fact that teams throw on them all the time, what are you expecting in terms of this game?

What do you expect from this game? What a great question. What do you expect, Jamie, from Pittsburgh and Green Bay? I'll start with Packers. Jacobs is the only must-start player. I think Dobbs and Golden are number three receivers, maybe borderline number two receivers because of the week that we're dealing with here. So Dobbs over Waddle is something I would consider.

I would start Dobbs over McLaurin for this week. And so the targets are hard to ignore. Now we do have the wild card of Christian Watson potentially playing. He says he's going to play. I don't know if that's such a huge detractor for Dobbs because I'm going to guess Watts and snaps are going to be limited and you're probably going to have a few targets, not necessarily a ton of targets in this game.

My favorite pass catcher for Green Bay is still Tucker Kraft just based on how he'll operate. For the Steelers, I think Metcalf and Warren belong in the number two conversation for their respective positions. And then I wouldn't chase the tight end production. from last week. I know Faramuth had a big game, but that's the Bengals. So I'd avoid that. I'd avoid John Smith. The quarterbacks, I think, is where you have some tough calls because

you have Rogers coming off two very strong games, a 21-point game against Cleveland, which is not easy. And then the huge game against the Bengals, which is easy. Now, the Packers have given up pretty quality production to quarterbacks in four of their last five games. And so he's in the low-end starting conversation. I would start Rogers over Love personally, just because I think Love's attempts and lack of scoring has been a problem for him. So he's been under 19 fantasy points in three of his last four, four of his last five. He just hasn't been giving you the fantasy production. The only game that he's been good lately has been the Cowboys game,

which everybody's good against Dallas. And it was overtime. Okay. Dave, same question of you. Give me a lay of the land. How you see this game playing out? I think it's plenty of running from Green Bay. But Dobbs has earned the benefit of the doubt with eight plus targets in three straight games.

double-digit PPR points in three straight games, Pittsburgh pass defense being predictable and beat up. I don't mind him as a number two wide receiver, and I agree with Jamie. I would consider him ahead of Jalen Waddle, probably a switch you'll see in my rankings over the next 12 hours. Everybody else in Green Bay, besides Jacobs and Dubs and Kraft,

I don't feel great about. Golden's a good bi-week replacement at wide receiver. Don't love Jordan Love. And with the Steelers, Warren's okay in full PPR, like I'm less than half and non. D.K. McHaff has a decent matchup, I suppose. That's about it. Don't love any of the tight ends.

I don't think you should chase what you saw from Firemew? Pittsburgh tight ends. You don't love the Pittsburgh tight ends. Pittsburgh tight ends, yes. Yeah. It was implied that that's what I meant because I had switched from talking about Packers to Steelers. Yeah. So, Jordan Love is fifth in the NFL in yards per attempt.

He's been, you look at his roster percentage, 96% rostered. You could argue he's the most, one of the most over-roastered players in fantasy but if we just get a game where he'd throw the damn ball then he actually could be pretty good you know it's just he's not he's not throwing the ball enough he's playing very well right he's just not producing very well for our purposes right right but so we're not really expecting a big you know that whole stat about these teams seeing the most past attempts that that doesn't that doesn't override the fact that they are run heavy teams in nature and the packers are super slow or the bike the nope stealers they're super slow in nature um all right jalen warren so the the

the packers are giving up the the fifth fewest fantasy points to running backs, 3.6 yards per carry to running backs. It's going to be tough. He's going to need that really good usage like he got last week where he pretty much dominated the touches. Would you start Jalen Warren or Quentin Johnston? Sorry, I'm just buying time.

Man, you are angry. I believe the Packers are top eight in most receptions allowed to running backs as a team. Oh, interesting. Because they're not, they're giving up very few receiving yards, but that's interesting. So this is, I, if, if I were, you know, Magic 8-balling this, I would think that this is a dump off to the running backs quite a bit. It's really, I mean, maybe, it's very much influenced by the 10 catches for 31 yards by Jemir Gibbs in week one. All right, so Jalen Warren or Cam Scadaboo and Seekwon Barkley.

Both guys in the Giants. Eagles game. All right. Jalen Warren or Jalen Waddle? Warren. I have Warren higher as of now.

Jalen Warren or T. Higgins against the Jets? Higgins. T. Jalen Warren or Chris Olave against the Bucks? Olave. All right.

And then D.K. Metcalfe. You know, you guys, Heath has him in the top ten. You guys have him around 18th. And he's only got two games with more. than six targets, only one game with more than seven

targets. But it just feels like you have to start D.K. Metcalf. I mean, he's the number one. This could be a high-scoring game, and I know it didn't work for him last week, but you got to start. I would be surprised if it's a high-scoring game, but it's, again, we're talking about six teams on a buy. This is one where I may put Debo ahead of him. I'm guessing Dave probably does it already. But, yeah, I think you've got to be a little bit concerned that

Metcalf's targets have not been there, and he's somewhat touchdown dependent. Yeah. Do you like the DSTs? Yeah. Is it a low-end starter, Pittsburgh? No. I like them both.

All right, I have a few questions. Packers more than Pittsburgh. Full PPR is from the chat. Dobbs or Dowdell? Doubtle. I could see myself going Dobbs. Dart or Rogers? I have Dart higher.

Dart. Warren or Teteroa McMillan. that's a good one that is a good one Warren for you Jamie which one oh Jalen

I would go with Tett I think I'm going to end up going with Ted also Dobbs or Debo Debo Debo and Rogers or Marioota in four point per pass and touchdown leagues

that got close with the commanders getting those receivers back I still have Rogers a bit higher Marioada in that format he's going to probably he's averaging 30 yards for game on the ground.

So that gives him a little boost. Okay. Well, Rogers is probably averaging close to, you know. Rogers, what's higher? Rogers rushing yards in this game or Quentin Johnston's fantasy points. Okay. Last one.

Caleb Williams or a quarterback in this game? Caleb. I believe I have both quarterbacks in this game ranked ahead of Caleb. All right. Let's take a break. And we'll talk about Miami and Atlanta when we come back. All right. Miami is at Atlanta. Will Miami be able to compete? Don't judge a team by its worst performance, right? They got blown out in week one.

Big one, which is their worst? Well, the last time they got blown out, they were competitive for five straight weeks. They had been competitive. They're one and six. They've been competitive in every game except four or two, the Colts in week one and the Browns last week. So I hope they are competitive. Uncompetitive games are really just bad for fantasy. a lot of the time anyway uh Dave who are the must starts even the obvious ones in this game I am in Atlanta for the Falcons it's Bejohn Robinson it's Drake London and Kyle Pitts weird calling him a must start but it that's the way that it is he's a very good start I like Tyler Alger if you're desperate at running back or at flex he's had four games this year with double digit carries in three of them at least I think the number's 9.8 non-ppr point so almost 10 non-PPR points. This game does figure to be a blowout,

and we know the dolphins are terrible against everything, but they're especially bad against the run. And so Bejohn gets his. Alger can find the end zone. He's worth taking a chance on as a low-end number two running back. The only player on the dolphins that you'll feel great about starting is Devon A-Cham. And getting him involved on the ground through the air makes sense. He's the best part of their offense right now.

And then Waddle, kind of a borderline number two wide receiver. There isn't a tight end that I like. There isn't another receiver that I like. You can't start Tua with any confidence. I don't think I'm forgetting. Oh, going back to Atlanta, Darnell Mooney, it's the matchup. It's the Dolphins. It's a bad secondary.

I think he's more of a flex play than anything else. I know he's done nothing this year. But he looked better last week and I think he's got a chance to maybe hit a couple of deep throws against the Dolphins this week. Yeah, but surprisingly the Dolphins allow the sixth fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. And there's an easy explanation for this. They see the second fewest wide receiver targets in the NFL. They have a horrible run defense.

You got to figure, you know what's going to happen? Where did they rank before last week? Because last week is going to, okay, all right, that's fair. I mean, I'll take a look, but, yeah, I mean, it's not like they're good, but teams just don't really throw on them. So, I mean, I can find that. But yeah, that's part of it here. And Algier

Let's see So we don't really like Jacori Kroski Merritt We're kind of nervous about Woody Marks Would you start Tyler Algear over those guys? I would I would start Alger In non-PPR

I would start marks over all the guys You mentioned in full PPR And I would start Algeria over Kroski Merit Over Pollard over Pacheco Over There's one more You would start Alger over them? I would yeah

I mean Dave, Dave said it's, he's actually been 10.8 PPR points or more in three of his last five. So you're not going to get anything in the passing game. It's basically, can he score a touchdown? And if the game script goes as expected, this is when Algiers had his opportunities. And they're pretty consistent in giving him these touches. So that's the one thing to keep an eye on, he's been on the injury port, just make sure he's going to play. They're consistent in giving him his touches in one sense.

He has, let's say, this is a wild stat for Tyler Alger. He has 57 characters. this year. Atlanta's three and three. Tyler Alger has 24 of his 57 carries in the fourth quarter of their three wins. And that is exactly what we're banking

on. We're banking on them playing with a lead and running out the clock with Tyler Alger. That is when they feature him. It's a lot to put on, you know, it's a lot of hope to put on a player that is entirely touchdown dependent basically, has two or three catches all season. But I understand.

I mean, I'm starting him in a league. I have really no choice. That's Alger. A-chan, you know, the fact that they want to get Ali Gordon more involved when Devon A-chan is averaging 12.7 carries per game is a little concerning for me.

Not much you're going to do that. I'm going to guess it's more of not overwork A-chan. But 12, 13 carries per game? I mean... Yeah, but he's on. Underworkedua. Any interest in starting Pennix six weeks?

Like, Panx versus Rogers and Love. He's behind those guys, but I think you laid it out. Like, this is not. not a game where the Falcons go in with their quarterback dealing with a bruised foot and say, go throw the ball over the place. So the concern is, you know, and Dave's not wrong in saying this is a good week to potentially trust Darna Muni.

I just don't expect a lot of passing for the Falcons this week. So London and Pitts, based on what they've done and still have the potential to do, I'm starting them. Mooney is more of a desperation number three receiver for me. You don't see the Falcons maybe telling Pennix. Let's take some shots. Let's try and get you in rhythm. Let's try and kind of write the ship.

I don't know if you do a lot of it, but I think they could do a decent amount of it. Not while he's... Like, 29 pass attempts. Not only he's banged up or your microphone's underwater, no. Dave's microphone. Underwater? Yeah, it's not, nothing, it's not your fault. Michael Panix is ninth in the NFL in yards per attempt when he's not pressured,

and he's 28th in yards per attempt when he is pressured. The Dolphins don't really get a lot of pressure. They're 22nd in pressure rate. I definitely think there's a chance for, you can just look, like, there are a lot of quarterbacks. Miami has allowed 27.1 or more fantasy points to four quarterbacks, and none of them threw 30 passes.

So a lot of them ran. That's the difference. Pennix doesn't do that. But you do not need to throw 30 passes to have a good game against the dolphins. So it's, you know, you could see this going in a number of ways. He could have a big game without doing a lot of throwing.

He could hand the ball off and throw 22 times and have a bad game. So it's risky with panics. Let's real quick on Kyle Pitts. I think he's like seventh or something in the rankings. Just how does he compare to Harold Fanon if Njokin's out, to Dalton Schultz, to Cade Otten, to Mason Taylor, all these streamers, Kyle Pitts. He's ahead of all of them for me.

Oh, interesting. Because I am very worried about the pass attempts and the fact that he has, he gets targets, but he has three red zone targets all year, Two green zone targets, zero end zone targets all year. I think only one touchdown. Yeah, one touchdown for Pits. It is a good matchup, though, for sure. All right.

Point. Yeah, and then finally, all right, let's just wrap it up with this. Jalen Waddle. Like, other than last week, in the small sample size of Waddle playing with Tua and without Tyreek Hill, I mean, he was a total stud. I think 95, 110, and 142 yards, I want to say, in his first three, in his three games without Tyreek and with Tua. And last week was such a bad game.

But, you know, Dave, you brought up all the points. So am I really starting George Pickens going up against the Broncos, probably seeing Sertan, you know, over Jalen Waddle, when Pickens had a 20% target share with Lamb last week, which was a season high for him? Like, how can I start Pickens over Waddle? Dave Well, I mean, you make the case that George Pickens is going to be covered

entirely by Patrick Sartan in that game And I don't know if that's necessarily going to be the case No, not entirely at all, but that game I mean, that's going to be tough for him, no? That Bronco secondary? No, the Bronco secondary is very good but it's Sertan who's the best of that month Because that's the game of the week, yeah.

The Broncos and the Cowboys Not the Falcons and the Dolphins, no. It's the game of the week. Hey! Okay, I don't care. We talked enough about Jalen Waddle. Let's go to our next game. And the Giants are at the Eagles.

Okay, so since Tyrone Tracy got hurt in week three, a week before Jackson Dart took over, Cam Scadaboo is RB7 per game. Since Jackson Dart became the starter in week three, Four, he is QB5 per game in six point per passing touchdown leagues, despite being 18th or 19th in completions and passing yards, but he has the most carries rushing yards and rushing touchdowns among quarterback since taking over. Since Jackson Dart became the starter, Wondale Robinson has had a target share of 25% or

higher in three or four games, but Darius Slayton has not played, I think Slateon played in one and a half of those games. And since Jackson Dart became the starter, Theo Johnson is the number. number seven tight end per game, averaging 13.1 ppr fantasy points per game. He has four touchdowns on 23 targets. He did, of course, benefit from a 41-yard fluke touchdown on the deflection. So I asked you this earlier, but, you know, Jamie, you said, you basically said that scataboo is the only must-start giant, right?

No, I think Rondell is, if there is no Dary Slate, but I don't think it's, you know, you're running away from Robinson because Slayton is there. So he goes from a top 20 caliber wide receiver to maybe top 24. Still be a number two running back, a number two receivers, excuse me. Okay. I'm looking at one of my leagues, I said this yesterday, Caleb Williams versus Jackson Dart, and I've just made the decision to stick with Caleb Williams. If Lamar Jackson doesn't play, I might make the switch because I need a high scoring game there for Caleb.

But for Dart, you know, he did play well against the Eagles. He scored 25.6 fantasy points. He had 58 yards and a touchdown rushing. There's just not enough passing production there for me. And the Eagles defense is really good. They were missing Jalen Carter and Quinion Mitchell. So you guys have, you and Heath, they all have DART around QB12. Just have to respect what he's done.

But acknowledge, it's a tough matchup. Dave, what would you do with Wondell Robinson if Darius Slayton played or if he's out? Talk about that. I have a ranked as if he's out in Wondale Robinson's is a top 24 receiver in full PPR. And if it stays that way, I mean, that's how it is. If Slayton comes back, I don't think I'm going to change it that much. This is an easy, short area target for Dart to throw to. And in the case of his last game against Philadelphia, a decent downfield option for him to throw to as well.

I ride him in full PPR. I still think the volume will be there. You talked about the target volume that he has been getting with Jackson Dart. I don't think this is a game that the Giants play with a lead in, and that'll mean more passing for Dart. And that's good for Wondell Robinson, who's basically his number one receiver. Anybody want to start Theo Johnson?

No, you mentioned the four games. He had one dud, and it was this matchup. It was. It's a week where there's just so many good tight-end options. You don't need to play Theo Johnson. So Dalton Schultz is better than him. I think Mason-Tayton is better than him. Mason-Tayton is better than him.

sure, you know, would have obviously said Arronda Gadsden better than him. So I would start actually both Brown's tight ends if Njoku plays over Theo Johnson. Okay. I would, I started Quentin Johnston over Theo Johnson. Jalen Hertz, are you going to, I mean, I love Jalen Hertz if,

either way, I mean, he's great, if those two corners are out, or this corner in the safety, which seems likely. But what if A.J. Brown doesn't play, Jamie, start or sit Jailen Hertz, if A.J. Brown does not play. I'm still starting Jalen Hertz, you know, so that would be a tough call with, let's say, a Daniel Jones or Drake May or even Caleb Williams, for example. So those low-end starting options, you might consider it, but you still have Dallas Goddard and Demonte Smith. He probably would run a little bit more.

The only concern that I have for Jalen Hertz, honestly, is when the run game gets going, he's going to have one of these 17, 18-point games where he just doesn't have the high-end. production. And this could easily be one of those weeks because they're trying and they just abandoned it quickly. And so if Brown is not there, then that could be the mantra of, okay, now we have the opportunity to still get it done. So I can see a 202 type of game, whether that's one rushing or one passing for him, but not necessarily a monster game. I think of AJ Brown's there. Like you said, the secondary is banged up. They clearly have revenge on their mind after losing the first game. And so it would not be surprising if they blow out the Giants this week. Sequin averaged 4.9 yards per carry in the first quarter last week against

Minnesota, and they got away from him. The first two carries of the game against the Giants, remember against the Giants? He ran for like 40 yards or something, and then they got away from. What is? Stop getting away from it. Yeah. You'd think that last week would have been the week where they try and stick to it way more than they had been in the past, but they just, they had so much success beating the Blitz that they just took advantage of it. And I don't think the Giants are going to be able to play that same kind of way.

I don't think they'll blitz like crazy because they're so weak in the secondary. They don't want to leave those backups on an island. Yeah. So this could be, there's definitely a chance that Sequan gets right this week. I hope so. Barkley or Scataboo? Barkley. I have, I have Barclay a little bit ahead of Scataboo.

Barclay or Debo Samuel? Barkley. Barclay. Sequin or one more? One more. Sequan or Judkins? Sequan. All right.

And A.J. Brown's top 12, if he plays, borderline. Devante Smith, Jamie, start or sit, Devante Smith in the two scenarios with A.J. Brown without A.J. Brown. number two receiver without a j brown top 10 receiver i'm sorry number two receiver with a j brown top 10 receiver without a jrown yep and dial scotter would obviously shoot up as well if there's no a j brown would you start wandael robinson or devante smith we obviously without a j brown it's either way i'd start smith okay i would start robinson if there is no slate then and brown place okay and goddard you know how is his ranking going to

change from where to where in your mind, Dave, with or without A.J. Brown. He'd be top five at tight end if there's no A.J. Brown. He's close to that already for me with A.J. Brown. So I don't see myself moving him, maybe more than a spot or two. Okay. So he's a must-up. Where's he for you right now, Dave? He's actually very close to five. So he's a start either way. So, yeah, all right. I mean, it's hard to ignore his production. There's always the risk with Dallas Goddard of what we saw last week, of three times. targets. In fact, he's had three games this year with two to four targets. But in the first

two games, he scored three touchdowns combined. But I don't know. I don't think that I could rank him that high on a weekly base. We have that risk with 75% of the tight ends, probably higher, like 90% of the tight ends. We've got three and a half year sample size of this with Dallas Goddard. I mean, it happens all the time. I do, well, it's also, you know, first year with new coordinator. I do think that your point, which you know, smart to bring up is that, if the corners are not there, they may attack them a little bit differently. Yeah, the first time he played the Giants, he had nine catches, 110 yards, and a touchdown on 11 targets.

Personally, just as a quick aside here, I feel like, you know, doing this year after year, what's reliable, what's not reliable as something to preview a game. I feel like what the player did in a previous matchup against this team is one of the least reliable metrics for me. I don't know if you agree with that. Sure. I like looking at how a team played this team the last time, the last three times. Like, what type of coverages do they use?

How often did they blitz? Basic stuff, it's not necessarily, I don't get so into the weeds about, you know, what type of, you know, past rush games they're playing or, you know, cover three versus cover four or whatever. But that kind of stuff, I think, can translate. Because if it worked the last time they played, they could potentially try and do it again. Okay, the Eagles DST is a low-end starter, and I'll finish this game with some questions from the chat.

Devante Smith or Tetero-McMillan, PPR. Smith. Tett, if A.J. Brown plays, Smith, if A.J. Brown's out. Slayton or Josh Downs, if they both play this week. Owee. Downs. It's going to, I think I'd end up with downs and PPR, Slaten, and Nahn. Start two. Wandoe Robinson, Xavier worthy, Michael Pittman,

Shakir. Pittman and I'm sorry Pittman and Wondell Excuse me Yeah Pittman and Wondell Wondale or Flowers Flowers

Mm-hmm I agree Goddard or Kittal Gittle Gittle Georgie If Lamar Jackson doesn't play I'm sure that would be

Wondale I don't know Yeah Wondale or flowers if Lamar Jackson were out Wando Wondale Robinson Adam coming in

with the game of the week is like the Kool-Aid man Busting through the wall and then Ben said Who is the the Kool-Aid man. Oh, no, Ben. Look up, go to YouTube and look up some old Kool-Aid. Well, he doesn't even know who he is. I'm not going to blame him.

It's Kool-Aid. He's the cornerback on the Saints. Make history? Yeah. Oh, the cornerback. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, maybe, okay. All right, next game, Tampa Bay is at New Orleans. Waste of time, stat of the game. Rashid Shaheed has exactly four catches in six straight games. Let's see if we can keep it going.

Here's the real stat of the game. The only wide receivers to score more than 13 fantasy points in PPR against the Bucks. Are Garrett Wilson? No. Oh, Garrett Wilson and JSN. And Amman Ross Stam... What? All right, this stat sucks.

Basically, okay, here's the stat. The only wide receivers who have done really well against the Buccaneers have been mostly studs. Kendrick Bourne and a bunch of studs. Garrett Wilson, J.S.N. Amon Ross St. Brown. Nico Collins. Drake London, Kendrick Bourne. So I guess, Mike, it was leading into this. You guys are very confident in Chris Olave this week.

Why the change from Olave being like wide receiver 30 to knocking on the top, knocking on the door of the top 12? His targets have been excellent really for the majority of the season, but the last three weeks he's been producing on his targets. So just given how this game in my mind will unfold, the same throwing from behind, Olave has been pretty consistent and pretty solid. Six teams on a buy, I think he'll continue to be a very productive wide receiver. Like, it's hard to get away from somebody who's doing what he's doing.

Yeah. I see eight wide receivers who have had nine plus targets against Tampa Bay this year. And one, two, three, four, five of them have at least 14 ppr points. Six have at least 13 and a half ppr points. I think 13 and a half is a very safe floor for Chris Olabe. And the ceiling is, I don't even think the ceiling is what we got last week. I think it's lower than that. It could be one touchdown with.

six for 45, six for 50, something like that. Yeah, I mean, the thing is with... By the way, since you missed his comment in chat, Ben was making the who is the Kool-Aid man because he spelled it wrong. Oh. Oh, the first person spelled it wrong? Yes.

Oh, I see, yes. They both spelled Kool-Aid McEntree's name wrong. One did it on purpose. Yeah, no, I think the thing with OLAV is that he had been pretty horrible on a yards per target basis, but the last couple of weeks, Rattler has really been hitting on deep balls. through some really good ones.

And he's finally getting some explosive plays for Alavi. It's a very encouraging development. On that side of the ball, is there any other saint that you want to start? It's a really interesting week for Camara because Kendra Miller, in his last four games, I believe it is, he's been getting nine touches a game. And so now that he's out, does that go to Camara,

which would be the hope? Does it go to Devin Neal? Does it go to Tassam Hills? It's a combination of those guys, you know, just getting those opportunities. And Tampa Bay's clearly been a good run defense. defense, but they've given up some production to running backs still. So it's not like you should be completely benching Camara like you have been or getting

away from him, but I also think this is one of those weeks where you don't want to get the fooled you game of, okay, now there's opportunities, and he doesn't necessarily get those. So I think just given six teams on a buy, he's a number two running back by default. For me, it's like I get to that point in my rankings where it's, I thought this about by Dow, so, you know, I was wrong. But Chase Brown, going to get work, not, you know, great, but could do it. well. Rico Dattle, pretty decent matchup, but we know there's the situation with Chuba Hubbard,

you know, so I'd start Camaro over Crosky Merritt. I'd start him over Pollard. I start him over Pacheco, you know, that group of guys, but I'm not getting over-excited about it just because there is no Kendra Miller. You nailed it. And Camara played 85% of the snaps last week after Kendra Miller got hurt. That's a good thing. He dominated on third downs. That's a good thing. The Saints didn't get inside the 10. And we know that when they do get inside the 10, it could be taste some hill time and that obviously hurts alvin camara so i think jamie you're absolutely right this is one where you can start camara hoping that volume ends up getting um in the neighborhood of like 11 ppr points but don't don't have high expectations on top of that

eric mccoy's out for the year that's one of the better offensive linemen for the saints and remember last year when when that offensive line started getting banged up they went from a good offense to a terrible offense overnight and i'm very i'd be a little bit worry that that happens again, and that hurts the upside for Kamara, who really hasn't had upside all year long? At best, the number two running back. This is a great opportunity if he does play well to trade him right afterwards. Yeah, Camara, the Buccaneers are giving up the most receiving yards per game to running backs, but Camara's played Seattle and he's played New England, and those are top five in receiving yards per game of running backs, and he hasn't taken advantage

of it. He's just really doing very little with his touches, bottom line. All right, so Alabe's a must start, Camara's, you know, borderline number two guy. I will say this, as much as we just crapped all over the Saints offense, if you have an open roster spot, it's not a bad idea to pick up Devin Yield just in case. Sure. Is he the best guy to go in stash, though? No, no. Isaiah Davis is still out there.

Yeah, I think you look at Davis, you look at Brashard Smith, you know, you look at some of these guys that are on better offenses that or potentially better situations. Obviously, Isaiah Davis is not a great offense, but there's the, the Brise Hall injury that we're monitoring plus the trade scenario. so like Davis isn't a bunch of their spot. I agree. But again, if they clearly are not going anywhere, do they start to give Devin Neal some more work,

like they were giving Kendra Miller more work? All right, guys. Let's talk about the Buccaneers. Baker Mayfield is about eighth in the rankings. Baker Mayfield or Drake May. Mayfield. By a spot. Baker Mayfield or Dak Prescott at Denver.

Dak. Go, Dak. Baker Mayfield or Jalen Hurts if A.J. Brown were Out. I'd go Mayfield there. I think I'd stick with Hertz. And Baker Mayfield over under

23 and a half fantasy points, six points for passing Dutch sound leagues. I think 23 is like right where he'd be, yeah. Rashad White is a must start. Rashad White or Sequin Barclay. Barkley. I have white iron.

PR. All right, but they're close. I am so, I am so unimpressed with this Saints run defense. Like, they got, their D line got pushed around by the Bears last week. Yeah, it was doing offensive line might be getting a little bit healthier. At least their depth will be better going into the game. So I'm, I'm, I'm kind of encouraged by Rashad White and what he might be able to do. I don't disagree with you. I just think that, uh, he hasn't exactly run very well. And wouldn't surprise me if they give Sean Tucker a little bit more opportunities. Oh, all right. Yeah, he hasn't run well, but he has faced Seattle, San Francisco, and Detroit. That's tough sledding right there.

So hopefully the Saints, they were playing well against the run before last week. All right. And then finished it up, Tucker played the Saints in New Orleans without one of the guys. Yeah, it was White who wasn't there. Yep. It was a monster game. Okay, guys, Tampa Bay Passing game. Abuka is obviously a must start.

Kate Otten and Tess Johnson, I think I asked you to rank them earlier. Did you both have Otten over Tess Johnson? just as a... I do. I think I might have had Taz a spot higher than Aten. Okay. Jamie's much higher than...

More than a spot. More than a spot. Jamie's got out in fifth and Dave has him, I think, like 11th. Is there anything... I'm 9th. He's not.

He stopped Ted. All right. It's fine. So Tess Johnson, then. Who would you start Tess Johnson over? Quentin Johnston. Yeah, me too.

We talked a lot about Mooney earlier in the show. I'd start Tess over. him. I've been outspoken about Marvin Mims this week. I would start Tess over both Mims and Troy Franklin. I'd start Tess over Shaheed. I'd start Tess over the 49ers, wide receivers. I just, I love the speed element that he brings, and he can use that in a variety of ways to beat the St. Secondary, including the Kool-Aid man. And so Tess, to me, just he looks like a reliable flex after what we've seen the last couple of weeks.

49ers receivers or Tez? Tez. Man, you didn't listen. It's okay. He's busy. Yeah, I'm sorry. I did not listen. I was talking with our producer. Okay, my bad. Tess Johnson or Alvin Camara.

I might go Tess. No, you know what? Without it, Kendra there, I'll give Camara the benefit. We got a good question in the chat of Tess or Golden. I'd go Tess over Golden. Here's a better one. Tess or Dobbs. Dobbs, but that's close. all right all right good stuff um i'm very excited for test jay i wish i had gotten him i put in some

pretty i guess smaller bids than i needed to oh unfortunately but it could just be a one-week things they have their buy next week it is another scenario of big game self because we have no idea what's going to happen coming off their by week maybe hope we let's get that big game buffalo's at carolina updated sat of the game in their last three games carolina is held Devon A. Chan, Giovante Williams, and Brees Hall to 24 carries for 83 yards. Derek Brown is a beast. Williams and Hall were terrible for fantasy. I can't sit here and say sit James Cook.

Just be aware it's not a great matchup necessarily. Start Josh Allen, start James Cook. Khalil Shakir or Tess Johnson? Tess. I believe I have Tess a little higher. How would you rank Khalil Shakir and Kian Coleman against, say, Darnel Mooney? Shakir, Mooney, Quentin Johnston, Keon Coleman. I mean, Josh Palmer's not going to play, but he's only had like two, he's had three, one, three, two, and two targets in his last five games.

So it's not like he's getting a lot of targets. If Dalton, if Dalton Kincaid plays, would you start Kincaid or Kate Otten? Just look at Dave's rankings and you'll see where Kincaid. I pulled them, but I'll probably end up ranking him by the end of the day when it looks like he's going to play. Just so you know, Dave does a great job of starting this conversation for years now, Uncle Dave. For me, Dave, and Heath of what, who should be in and who should be out of our rankings. And then usually it's, I don't think Heath rarely chimes in. Usually it's me and Dave putting most of the stuff that we see.

Dave does it early Monday. I usually fill in whatever happens Monday afternoon. and then we just text each other throughout the week. So Dave sends us a list, and he says in, out, or in for now, out for now, whatever. And so Kincaid, I believe, was out for now. And so I guess you just decided to write them. I just completely forgot to pull him from my rankings, ranked him like there was no big deal. I pulled him.

He's out of there now. But he was very high for me in my rankings beforehand. So if he plays, I'm going to be bullish on him. And usually we linebackers in Carolina. We do it on, you know, hey, I. I think he should play. I don't think he should play. You know, we kind of vote on it.

Yeah, I like that. That's a sneak behind the curtain. Yeah. On FFT. Okay. We've gotten a lot of questions about, but I don't think you answer the questions. Like, would it be Kincaid or Otten?

Kincaid for me. It would be Otten for me. Okay. So we've gotten a lot of questions about McMillan and Doubtle. I almost regret saving this game for last. I thought it would be kind of easy. Real quick, just to get it out of the way. Any interest in Xavier Lee get this week?

It feels like you're chasing. Like he was great last week. You have a new quarterback now. You have another game of Jalen Coker coming in. So I think desperation number three receiver, I give the example, and I'm going to regret it because I started Quinn Johnson. But I play in a Dynasty League where I start five receivers

and a flex, and he didn't crack the top five. Oh, wow. Yeah, someone's asking Chase Brown or Leegett, and I think we'd go Chase Brown here. I'd go Brown. Yeah, Legett. Now, he did get five. of Andy Dalton's eight pass attempts

went to Xavier League and Sauce was I think out of the game for most if not all of that. So that wasn't the reason but that's another thing that I've learned over the years you do not take that small sample size and apply it to the next week. It's just it's a trap.

Not unless there's like a strong track record of it from the year before and don't think, or injury sure, but I don't think there was such a strong track record the year before. I can check. I'll double check to see what is target per route run rate was with Dalton in 2024. Do you guys

like Rico Dowdell or Teddorill and McMillan better? I would go Tet and PPR and Dowdell and not and a half. Sounds right. Okay. And do you like Tedd Earl McMillan any more or less than you usually do with the quarterback change?

No. No. He's a number two receiver. As you've noted, he hasn't been great. He hasn't even really been good. I mean, he's not even a top 30 guy. Yeah, I don't think he's a top 20 guy by any stretch. It's not his fault. I think he's more top 24 to 30 in that range in PPR. He's a way, he's got to be lower in non-PPR.

I do think it just feels like something's there. The big thing for him, for Tedroa McMillan, where's the stat? He's like two of 10 on deep balls or something. Yeah, two catches for 50 yards, no touchdowns on nine targets. So they could just hook up on a big play. And maybe Dalton will be better in that. I don't think his deep balls were pretty ugly last week, but he did complete one. But, you know, that's what's missing there.

The bills are 12 against wide receivers, but their defense, I mean, they've had so many injuries. It's really hard to know what to expect from the bills, and they're still injured. I've got your, I've got your Liegett stat from 2024. Go. 207 snaps, 119 routes. Xavier Legate had a 17.6% target per route run rate. Not good. With Andy Dalton.

Not so good. Tess Johnson or Leaget? I go, Tess. Tetero McMillan or Diggs? Steph. Oh, split there. Keon Coleman or Tez? Going to Tess.

Everybody over Keon. Khalil Shakir or Zay Flowers. Flowers if Lamar plays. Rico Dowdler. Rico Dowell or Jalen. I'm sorry. RICO Dattle or Jalen Warren. Warren.

Warren. Okay. That's it. We talked about Rico Dowdle during one question for each game. I know you have a lot of questions. Here's one. Dowdell or Shakir? I would go with Daudel over Shakir.

Yeah, I believe I have Daudel. I don't think you grab the right question. I did not. Yeah. Okay. Chuba Hubbard or, yeah, I'm sorry. I skipped him. Chuba Hubbard or J.C.M.

This is actually close. I would probably still go JCP just based on the expected workload, but wouldn't shock me if given look the bills have been bad against running backs and so you know are the Panthers that continue to lean into both these guys with the back or quarterback wouldn't be surprising at all but uh I would prefer to avoid both but I'd still go JCM slightly I have tuba slightly how would you rank the Panthers run last question Panthers running backs versus Algier Doudal Algeara tuba yep an Algier sandwich okay watched a ridiculous movie last night starring Michael J. Fox.

Keep me on a guess. It wasn't back to the future. Secret of my success. He transforms. Teen Wolf. What a stupid. I couldn't think of the name. It's fun.

It's good. But the first time you've seen it? No, I've seen it. He becomes a wolf in the middle of the basketball game. And then he just starts dunking. And everybody's like, yeah. And they carry him to the restaurant down the street. They're not freaked out.

freaked out for five seconds. They're like, whoa, cool. You're a wolf. It's, well, they don't make movies like that anymore, folks. What were his two best friends names? Stiles. And the girl. Kenny? Oh, oh, and boof. Biff, boof. Boof. Biff is from a different Michael J. Fox movie. Boof and Biff and Michael J. Fox. All right, folks, have a great Friday. We'll talk to you on the mailbag. And Sunday morning, 11 a.m. Eastern at YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. And happy trunker chick.

See you later. Paramount Podcasts. Now streaming. Everyone who comes into this clinic is a mystery. We don't know what we're looking for. Their bodies are the scene of the crime. Their symptoms in history are clues. We saved her life.

We're doctors and with detectives. I kind of love it if I'm being. honest. Solve the puzzle, save the patient. Watson, all episodes now streaming on Paramount Plus.