Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC)! Rams WRs, Jared Goff, Bears Passing Game and More (11/01 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 1, 2024

Recapping Jets-Texans (2:30) and wondering if the Jets have turned the corner or if you should sell high on Garrett Wilson. When are the Texans getting Nico Collins back? ... News and notes (13:40) including an update on the Titans running backs and One Question for Each Game (20:10)! Do we trust Jayden Reed? Dak Prescott? A Panthers, Jaguars or Giants running back? Kirk Cousins? And we tell you our favorite QB/WR stacks (28:00) for Week 9 ... Start or Sit for Cowboys-Falcons (30:00), Lions-Packers (37:15), Bears-Cardinals (46:15), Rams-Seahawks (56:30), Commanders-Giants (1:03:00), Jaguars-Eagles (1:09:00) and Saints-Panthers (1:12:35) ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is fantasy football today from CBS sports It's time to dominate your fantasy league Here's some combination of Adam Dave Jamie and he Happy Friday everybody and welcome to Fantasy Football Today presented by BEDMGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. Today on the show I'm gonna tell you why I think the Detroit Lions are going to win the Super Bowl. We're gonna tell you who the third string running back on Tennessee is might come into play and what the game of the week is. There will not be a repeat of last week. And hot dog Jamie Eisenberg is here,

dressed up on post Halloween with a little mustard on the, he's got a hot dog suit on. I love it, Jamie. Tell me about your buns. My buns are toasty. Yeah. What do you got? Did you wear that last night?

So I was late to our little family, trick or treating outing, and I was supposed to be a hot dog. My wife was mustard. And I met them walking around and they left the hot dog at the house. So I said to pay my penance for not wearing the costume like I was supposed to.

I'm gonna wear it on the air today. I love it. I love the spirit here. Still feels like, I don't know why, cause maybe it's Friday, it's like weekendy, but it still feels like Halloween to me. I'm still love the spirit here. Still feels like, I don't know why, cause it's maybe it's Friday, it's like weekend, it still feels like Halloween to me. I'm still in the Halloween spirit. Also have a ton of candy that I will continue to eat

throughout the week. How was your Halloween, Dave? That was great. I watched football. That's right. Let's talk about that because, Hey, this could be what the jets look like. Maybe, maybe the second half. Well, the second half. The second half.

Yeah. Yeah. Or were they wearing a costume? I mean, you see the potential at least, is they win 21 to 13. Devonte Adams with a big, fooled you! Thought we had a concussion, but came back and scored a touchdown. That was good to see.

There's actually a lot of injuries in this game. Michael Carter for the Jets left with a back injury. They lost two offensive linemen. The Texans lost an offensive lineman. The Texans lost Will Anderson. He left around halftime. But Dave, you can start since you weren't trick or treating. You were just watching football.

Oh, I guess. Malachi Corley lost the touchdown. Oh man. Oh my gosh. I was so mad about that touchdown anyway. It's like that helps nobody. Helps nobody. You didn't start Malachi Corley in your league? No, and a rushing touchdown to boot. But yeah, no, he dropped it before the goal line. Anyway,

since you were not trick or treating and you were only watching football, what were your takeaways from Jets Texans? First half gross, second half better for the New York Jets. And it looked like it took 10 quarters for Rogers and Devontae Adams to really get on the same page. And honestly, they should have got going a lot sooner in this game. There was a great throw that Rogers made to Devontae when he was streaking down the sideline. Devontae had to dive for it. He dropped it. That kind of stunk. But he looked, he looked okay. And I'm talking about Devontae looking okay. Rogers looked better in the second half, but how do we not bring up Garrett Wilson and how awesome he was? Both

touchdown catches were ridiculous plays. This is, I think it's the best game that he's played yet in his career. And this is his upside. This is what he's capable of doing. I know he didn't have as many targets as Devontae, but he is their number one wide receiver. And in PPR leagues, he is a number one wide receiver moving forward, totally buy into Garrett Wilson, continuing to be, you know, the most explosive receiver on the Jets. I'll say that. Adam, I got to ask this question. I'll ask you because I know he was at the time your favorite player. Better catch, Garrett Wilson or Odell Beckham? Not even close. Beckham.

Not even close? Beckham was being interfered with. He was being ripped down. And it was a great catch by Garrett Wilson. I agree. Beckham's was... Not even close? To me, not even close. And I...

It's worth thinking about, but it's... Once you think about it and you remember that Odell was like falling backward as he brings in the ball, but way behind his head. Like that's an 11 out of 10. Adam's quote was pretty cool. What he said about it. Oh, what did he say?

That he needs to switch sponsorships and go from Adidas to Jumpman. Yeah, that was cool. So I mean, but at the same time, the two touchdowns that Wilson caught were amazing, but not the type that maybe... All right, I'll just cut to the chase. Should we sell high on the Jets? Is this the peak here? Well, the schedule is fantastic for them.

I mean, that's the thing you want to look at is like, this could be the start of something as opposed to the peak of something. Now, granted, two touchdowns, Devontae Adams leaving the game and then coming back, you know, that was a little surprising that, you know, we're thankful that he was able to clear the concussion protocol and get back out there. But there is so high potential here. I just think you got to make sure you're not selling high with the idea of, okay, this was a one week thing and they're going to disappear.

This could clearly be the beginning of, you know, some very good production and some very solid games going forward. And it's still going to be an Aaron Rodgers centric offense. I still think we're going to see Rodgers have 30 plus pass attempts most weeks. I think it's a bottle of a offer. Okay. For Bruce Hall, as I was just said, you could take it. Like I'm obviously like, I love what he did. And that touchdown on Petrie was awesome, but I don't know if he can catch a bunch of 30 plus yard passes every single week. I still think he's going to be a red zone threat. So things are going to get a ton of targets. But if you can get like number one receiver return for Devante, I would take that. But other than that, I'm good with the Jets the rest of the way.

No, but Breeze Hall people are frustrated and he has three catches in his last two games. And the first game with Devontae Adams, he had a ton of targets. But since then, I mean, I think this is a valid question. I was thinking about it. Like, I don't think Breeze Hall is anywhere near, well, just running back is so good this year

that you could argue he's closer to what maybe RB 10 than RB 2. Correct. He's definitely going to be classified as a bust based on where he was drafted because he's not going to return that type of value. That being said, if you can still get him cheap. So for example, let's just say Chase Brown goes out and has a monster game this weekend, right? And the Breeze Hall manager is frustrated.

You may be able to turn, let's say, Chase Brown and something into Breeze Hall manager is frustrated. You may be able to turn let's say Chase Brown and something into Breeze Hall. Chase Brown and I don't know let's say an injured receiver Mike Evans or I don't know if I go to the college. What if it were Josh Downs? What if Josh Downs goes out and has 15 points? So Chase Brown and Josh Downs if the Breeze Hall manager is struggling to make the playoffs and needs two starters and both those guys coming off good games where you see the path to success for both of them and you need a you know superstar, I'd make that deal. All right. I think that deal to get Brown in downs. If I'm desperate, I mean, look, look what he did yesterday, right?

Heath is two and six. He made two trades, right? That he oversold, right? Or undersold his start. I didn't see the trades. I don't know if they were. So he made two trades in our fantasy football today league which I got questions about as the commissioner and understandably so I was ridiculous that would not I traded him

because he needs starters for this week so I traded him David Najoku and Alexander Madison he gave me George Kittle and Joanne Jennings so again he needs he needs two starters he likes Madison a lot this week and the joke was obviously playing well. He can't use those guys if he loses, he's done. Okay, fine. He also traded Adam Christian McCaffrey for Aaron Jones and Wondell Robinson.

Wondell Robinson. So he traded a whole bunch of guys. Not a great just neither one. No, no, they were fine. No, no, none of them are great. They were fine. But you see what he's trying to do. Like he's desperate for players

that he needs to win this week. And those are trades he's giving up star players to save his season. Yeah. All right. Well, to wrap this game up here on the Texan side, you know, weird that Mixon didn't have a catch. He had more pass attempts than targets, but he had a good game. Very encouraging for Tank Dell.

Finally made a play downfield. He looked great. It's probably going to get started again next week against Detroit who gives up I think the most fantasy. No, no, I'm wrong about that. But yeah, anyway, could see it could see. Nico Collins should be back next week. Is that right? Well, that's he that's what they said. I will rephrase. He's eligible to return next week. His four games on IR are done. So if he's able to play he can return. I heard the same thing coming into the week that this was going he was going to be able to return

but again hamstring injury got to get through practice we'll see how that goes. But obviously if you started tanked out you were pleased beyond belief with the performance. Another discipline Dalton Schultz has done forget about it there's no way way you can even consider using him. I did thought he I thought he almost got his foot in on the one on the end of the game there. And speaking of Joe Mixon I thought he almost got his foot in on the one on the end of the game there. And speaking of Joe Mixon, I thought this is where the Texans lost the game, was when he was rolling there inside the,

they're in the red zone, I don't know exactly where they were. And the stupid direct snap to him where they throw it to CJ Stroud. Yeah, I didn't like that. Absolutely so stupid. Cause it was second and long. There wasn't even like a big threat to, if it were third and short or something like that,

you might be able to trick them, but I don't know. I didn't like that play at all. All right, anyway, the schedule, they get Detroit and Dallas. Detroit does give them the third most fantasy points to wide receivers. Detroit and Dallas coming up, so. Oh, with everybody in the by next week, he's absolutely a starter.

I was talking about Stroud. I was transitioning to Stroud, but yes, Dell, we're gonna certainly, all right. You know what, we got time to talk about that. That is it for Thursday Night Football, the Jets with the Blitz. Nah, okay, Sunday morning, 1130 AM Eastern. what we got time to talk about that. That is it for Thursday Night Football the Jets with the Okay Sunday morning 11 30 a.m. Eastern we'll be here answering your questions youtube.com fantasy football today. Jamie's gonna be on CBS Sports HQ at 10 a.m. Eastern helping you set your

lineup so that is on Sunday. I wear the hot dog. I think you should and I wear it every day for the rest of the season. I think we have a quick YouTube question here. I wish the hot dog. I think you should. And I wear it every day for the rest of the season. I think we have a quick YouTube question here. I wish I could find who wrote it, but sorry, not giving credit. But do you like your hot dog buns toasted or non toasted? I don't know. Yes. When, when you have a Seattle style hot dog, having them toasted is mandatory.

And that is what? Well, remember Ben Gretch taught us about this. It's a hot dog with cream cheese and grilled onions and hot sauce on a toasted bun. It's actually good. I always toast. Don't you dare go, oh, gross to that. When I know what you like to eat on Sunday mornings before football. I never have. The football Sunday, the cinnamon raisin bagel with ham,

Swiss cheese, tomato and Russian dressing. Everybody's like, that sounds good except for the cinnamon raisin. Everybody says that and I get that. I get that. When was the last time you had it? A few months ago, I like decided to try it, I think. Or I don't remember when, but one

time in the last 15 years. That was the time when you ordered it cheaply and then like claim it? Yeah. You sent your wife in to go get it? No, no, I just, I ordered it over the phone because I was too embarrassed to let anyone else hear it. All right, listen, if you haven't signed up for bet MGM yet, use the bonus code fantasy and you're going to get up to a $1,500 first bet offer on your first wager with BetMGM. Here's how it works. Download the BetMGM app and

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Visit ontarioonecall.ca. It's free, it's easy, it's the law. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. Okay, I have another question that I have to get to later from the YouTube chat. Remind me. But news and notes, our mailbag show is at 2.30 p.m. today on Friday. So we'll have updated injury reports and we'll tell you if Lamar Jackson gets back to practice. But right now, Jackson has mispracticed twice with back and knee issues. And this is obviously a huge deal. But we'll get we'll keep it.

Harbaugh kind of played it off as it's no big deal and that he was just getting rest. But two days of that seems a little suspicious. So Friday is a big day. I assume he's going to play, but we'll see. Jordan Love was limited in practice. Sounds like you guys have ranked him. So we'll get to that game in a little bit. Jared Goff in practice. Sounds like you guys have ranked him. So we'll get to that game in a little bit.

Jared Goff missed practice. But no, that was, no, that was Wednesday. He's back, sorry. Will Levis, we'll see. And Derek Carr is gonna start and Bryce Young is gonna start. All right, the big running back news is in New York and Tennessee.

Tyrone Tracy is looking good. They seem optimistic for him though. This is a little surprising. It is a great matchup and we will talk about that game. But you guys don't have Tracy ranked right now, right? No, but if we did, he'd be top 20 for sure, minimum, maybe even top 15. It's tough to crack the top 15 this week. It is. So like at bare minimum, he'd be like 18. this week. It is. So like at bare minimum, he'd be like 18. But I could see him getting as high as like 1516. Would Tracy be ahead of Brian Robinson, Jr. He would be for me. No. We're hopeful that did you rank Travis Etienne? No, no. All right. But he could still play. It depends. Dave may have. I don't get that. It's such a dopey inside joke that it's not even worth. Dave usually does a great job of starting the week with telling

Heath and I who's in and who's out. And then we sort of add to the list to take away whenever as it goes. So Dave puts in the email this week, DK Metcalf out. And then I see his ranking. He ranked DK Metcalf. But he hasn't practiced yet. Sorry, we'll get it. Oh, it was a bonehead move. I will talk about the pan. Bringing it up, Jamie.

We'll talk about the Panthers running backs later. Jerome Ford was limited. All right. So Tony Pollard mispracticed. Tajay Spears mispracticed after being limited on Wednesday, but Pollard hasn't practiced yet this week. They have New England. Great match up here. Speaking of hot dogs, Dave, we could have a chestnut at running back for the Titans.

Before you go run and pick up a chestnut, go run and pick up the Patriots DST if there's no Pollard or no Spears. Right. That's a fair point. I do think that there's going to be opportunity for Julius Chestnut, thicker running back, not a burner. I don't know what else to really say about him. He's a guy who's getting an opportunity.

If you're desperate at running back, you could pick him up. I did pick him up in the league that I reference all the time. 14 teams, triple flex, like he would be a flex if he were the only running back that was getting touches in Tennessee and potentially could score. But I don't have high expectations for him. Okay, I'm going to drop Josh Palmer for him. Bam. Now I have Julius Chestnut. And if you want out for hashtag Palmer, you're wondering what the chest, the hot dog joke was. Joey Chestnut is the guy who eats all the hot dogs. I'm sure most of you knew that. Zameer White, did Zameer White practice? I think he missed

practice, right? He missed practice on Thursday. Okay. So we'll see. That would ruin the value on Alexander Madison if he played for Heath. And when I say ruin, I mean, he'd lose like six carries. Bucky Irving is going to mispractice a lot with the toe injury, but we can just expect him to play. He's going to be dealing with a toe injury for the rest of the season. And we got an update on Isaiah Pacheco. He's, I guess, training in the right direction. He's not going to practice this week. It doesn't seem like he's going to practice next week. Don't know when he'll be back, but he will be back at some point this season, It seems Isaiah Pacheco wide receiver. Oh, trick or treating yesterday.

And I'm just like, I just like look at my phone. I'm like, oh, I think I probably muttered some type of mild profanity and people were like, what's wrong? And I was like, oh, Puka Nakua has got this knee injury again. Oh, same. Yeah. Like, oh, everybody had that reaction. I know.

But you know, I was around kids. I had a, I mean, obviously worked out well, 10 team league where I was starting Puka and I had the Monte Adams on the bench and I made that switch. So thankfully that worked out. Very nice. Yeah. So listen, they say it's not serious. He might play this weekend, but red alert, right? This is. They said he was, he's going to be okay. So as long as he breaks. But his status for this week is still in question. His status this week is still in question. Yeah. I read a report from NFL network that said that he's okay. But his status for this week is still in question. His status this week is still in question. Yeah.

I read a report from NFL Network that said that he's okay. Okay for this week? Yeah. Okay. Here, I'll get you two different ones. So just to make sure. All right. Well, we'll listen though. I mean, this is a guy who keeps having issues with this knee. I don't know how you can feel so great about it with Puka.

You'll have to make that decision in terms of whether or not you want to trade them or not. DK Metcalf still missing practice. Jags receivers are looking pretty good right now. Amari Cooper was limited again. T Higgins did not practice, so he's still day to day. This is from Schefter last night. Puka Nakuha's knee injury is not believed to be serious per sources. His status on Sunday's game in Seattle still is to be determined. Okay. And that came out after Mike Garofalo said that he's expected to be fine. Not a major injury, huge sigh of relief. Right. But that doesn't say he's going to play this week.

Right. So we'll see. We'll see what happens on Friday. Juju Smith-Schuster mispractice and Chargers wide receiver DJ Chark could play this week. Dallas Goddard not looking good there. He still has mispractice. Chargers wide receiver DJ Chark could play this week. Dallas Goddard not looking good there. He's still has mispractice. If he practices today maybe he'll play against the Jags and David Najoku. This is again the ankle injury perhaps lingering. You got to keep an eye on David Najoku because he mispracticed with his ankle injury. The Jaguars could be without both of their starting offensive guards. The Bears have a beat up offensive line. I didn't check the practice report for the Packers. I'm sorry, I missed that one.

They have- Who was back at practice? Who? Offensive line was back at practice, I believe. Okay, good. That's what I meant. That's what I wanted. And defensively...

Now for them, Alexander and Williams did not practice. Correct. On defense. Yeah. Okay, yeah. Chicago's defensive backs practice still correct. On defense. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Chicago's defensive backs were still out. The Cowboys are still pretty beat up. And you know what we're gonna,

that's the first game we're gonna talk about. Dallas at Atlanta. And they have been pretty bad against the past lately. And let's get to one question for each game. Here we go. Dallas at Atlanta, which quarterback do you prefer? And do you like them this week? I do like them. I like cousins more than DAC. I like them both. I like DAC slightly more

than cousins. Yeah. I mean, since, since Micah Parsons and Marcus Lawrence got hurt and now you got Doron Bland still not back and you've got Trayvon Diggs missing practice. I feel like I think they've given up like seven passing touchdowns in their last three games And it's been on 30 or fewer pass attempts in each game. They've just been terrible I was trying to do the math before the show, but the yards per attempt. They've been horrible the Cowboys against the pass All right, Detroit at Green Bay. Is this a bonanza? Is this okay? Here's a weird question Is this a bonanza with only one wide receiver we can trust? It's a great question. Um, I think clearly you're starting on Amon Ross St. Brown and

then do you start that look, you're starting reading Dobbs and through Sierra Leagues. There's no question about that. And two receiver leagues, do they crack the lineup? It probably comes down to who you have, but hopefully, I mean, it's a great matchup. Yeah, it's frustrating with Reid because it's getting what six targets now and he's by the way, Jordan Reid or Jayden Reid doesn't have a rushing yard. He's got like, he keeps getting one carry for no yards getting almost nothing on the ground. The first two games, he had a lot of rushing yards. By the way, do you want to hear, I teased it, why I think the Lions are going to win the Super Bowl?

Yeah, okay. Look at the quarterbacks they've played. Stafford, Mayfield, Kyler, Geno Smith, Dak, Darnold, Mason Rudolph. They haven't given up a multiple touchdown game yet. They're something like 12th against quarterbacks Their past defense has even with Hutchinson out their past defense has improved so much and they're obviously one of the best offenses in football They they really need to be aggressive. I'm sure they're trying to make a trade for a pass rusher

All the talk has been about Zedaria Smith going from for a pass rusher. All the talk has been about Zedarius Smith going from Cleveland. And it's the game of the week, yeah. We're waiting for this day to come. We really need Jordan Love to play, but it's the game of the week. Hey, it's the Lions and the Packers. Oh. So in the two games without Aiden Hutchinson, the blitz rate has actually been 45%. So that's how they're generating their pass rushes by sending more players at quarterback. And it's working out for them overall. I wouldn't say that there's like one guy that's just dominating from what they have. So a trade should be in the works for them. They should add somebody to make that pass rush better so that they don't have to blitz as much.

All right. Listen, whatever. I was just trying to get game of the week. And there's Chicago's at Arizona. Is this a bad game for the pass? It gives you great analysis. You're like, oh, whatever. Yeah, yeah. Is this a bad game for the passing games, Chicago and Arizona? I mean, is it the ones you like, oh my God, I can't wait to start Marvin Harrison Jr. and DJ Moore?

Probably not, but it's hard to sit those guys. Is it hard to sit DJ Moore? He's I don't, I don't think it's that hard to sit more at this point. Okay. Tell me three receivers are starting over DJ Moore that people have the ability to get, yes, Josh Downs, Jacoby Myers, Cortland Sutton. Great. You can start them over DJ Moore.

Thank you for answering that question. That was easy. Uh, you know, you're starting Cedric Tillman or DJ Moore? I have them back to back. Moore is one spot ahead of Tillman. I don't know if I'm going to keep it that way. So, no, I did like a little mid-season look at DJ Moore. He is currently wide receiver 35 per game and non-PPR, number 32 per game and full PPR. I was optimistic about him because I felt like earlier in the year, Caleb Williams had missed him on so many big plays, but Williams was so bad last week and he doesn't throw that much.

He's got two games more than 29 pass attempts. All right, we can talk about him a little bit more later. So let's go to our next game. In one question for each game, Control F Los Angeles Rams at Seattle. Give me a quick rundown of how we're ranking the wide receivers with uncertainty about Metcalf and Puka.

Well, you're definitely gonna put DK Metcalf in your rankings at the top. All right, I'm done with that. No, it's Puka first, Cooper Cup second, and I don't wanna start anybody from Seattle. I know the matchup's favorable and all that, but I'm tired of chasing Jackson Smith and Jigbis targets. I'm tired of thinking about Tyler Lockett.

DeMarcus Robinson was great last week. I don't want to chase that. I'm good with just the two Rams receivers if I can help it. Okay. I mean, look, it wasn't a bad game for JSN. He had about six for 70 ish, something like that. That's okay. All right, Washington at the Giants.

Why is Malik neighbors in your top eight? Why is he not? Why is he not? Look at the last two games since they lost Andrew Thomas. Commanders have one of the best pass rushes in football. And in their last five games- He had 13 targets last week. What's that?

He had 13 targets last week. And he scored what? 13 something fantasy points. Almost had a touchdown on top of it. Like he's still gonna get tons of opportunities and that's all you could ask for. Why not start Malik neighbors, geez. There's only one reason not to start Malik neighbors.

You have Josh Downs. No, Daniel Jones at home. Oh yeah, Daniel Jones hasn't thrown a touchdown in three straight games. Jacksonville at Philadelphia. How do you approach the Jaguars running backs? Bigsby and them are rocking the other way. That's how you approach them.

What'd you say, Jamie? Bigsby is a flex. If ETN plays, it's tough to say any of them are any good. Do you think they're going to be competitive in this game or trailing in the second half of this game? Probably trailing. They're still competitive. They're trailing. Uh, yeah, I don't, I'm nervous about Bigsby and I don't even know how much I really like

him as a flex. If ETN plays, then I think there's some appeal as a PPR flex, but not a top 24 running back. And if he's out, then I think the Ernest Johnson comes back on the map as a check down guy for Trevor Lawrence. I'd be surprised if either guy found 11 PPR points. Any of them. They said Doug Peterson said he was optimistic about ETN at the beginning of the week and he's been limited in practice for three weeks in a row now. But all right, the Saints are at the Panthers. How do you approach the Panthers running backs? And then I have a second question for this one. I'm sorry, Cuba Hubbard. He's a number two running back.

So even if Brooks plays, we're not expecting a big role. Correct. Okay. And the Saints are obviously a great match up here. Second question. Are you tempted to start Xavier Liggett or Jalen Coker? As the Saints have allowed 111 more yards to three receivers in their last four games. I would prefer not to start them. It's really not Coker.

I'm not there yet. Liggett is more of a desperation fourth receiver. If you start three receivers and a flex, if you are stuck a receiver, it could be your third receiver. flex, uh, if you are stuck a receiver, it could be your third receiver. It's just, if it was Andy Dalton, I'd have a lot more confidence. You know, I didn't think Bryce Young was terrible last week. I thought he made some improvements. He did.

So maybe he's on the right track. Leagate popped up on the injury report on Thursday. So that's something you have to keep an eye on. I agree with you, Jamie. I think that Liget is the one of the two and he's at best desperation type of flex. I want to tell you my new favorite thing in fantasy football. It is turning on the full fab report because I got Coker for $22 in our dynasty league. And then I checked the fab report and Heath bid $21 for him. Yes. All right. And now it's time for the Hellman stack segment where we discuss the quarterback and receiver

duos to keep an eye on this upcoming weekend brought to you by Hellman's real mayonnaise. Mayo game day, bring out the best. Dave, give me a couple of QB wide receiver stacks you like. Let's start with one that everybody knew would be a big time stack when the season started and that's Joe Flacco and Josh Downs taking on the Minnesota Vikings. Flacco's numbers for fantasy haven't been awesome week in and week out when he's played, but I think this is a matchup where he can actually get north of 20 fantasy points. Vikings allow a ton of numbers to wide receivers, the most fantasy points in PPR to wide receivers of any defense across the land. And they've allowed six touchdowns to receivers who line up in the slot in their last four games. Josh Downs, 77% slot rate.

So I think that he's going to be the one in line to potentially be the best Colts receiver. And we've seen it with Flacco three games, his floor is 15.9 PPR points. So the fact that he could be that good every week and certainly this week with a great matchup makes me push Josh Downs into my top 15 among wide receivers. There's a case to be made he should be top 12. So if you've got Josh Downs put him in your lineup and expect really good things. The other one is going to be Dak and Lam. And that's one we did really expect to be good. I don't buy into Atlanta's defense other than their safety. So maybe there won't be a ton of like huge Yak plays for CD Lam, but I think he's still

going to get a ton of targets. The Cowboys realized last week, all right, if we're going to do anything, we just got to get this connection going again. CDLM, Elite Wide Receiver, Dak Prescott, top 12 quarterback. Trey Lockerbie Atlanta has allowed 10 touchdown passes in their last four games facing Baker Mayfield twice, Andy Dalton and Geno Smith. This has been the Hellman's Stack segment brought to you by Hellman's Real Mayonnaise. And just like these QB and Wide Receiver duos, Tailgate Snacking and Hellman's Real Mayonnaise. And just like these QB and wide receiver duos, tailgate snacking and Hellman's mayonnaise

make the perfect combo, bringing out the rich and creamy taste to all your game day dishes. So give it a try and Mayo game day be delicious with Hellman's Real Mayonnaise. Shop at your local Walmart, Kroger or grocery store and add some extra deliciousness to your game day dishes this football season. Does Mayo belong on a hot dog? I think it's yeah. I mean, it's okay. I don't think you have to do it.

Obviously, Mayo is going to make pretty much anything better. It's kind of yeah. As long as it's not catch up on a hot dog. We're good. Dallas is at Atlanta. So from one of Dave's stacks to to that game and your stat of the game is what I just said about the Falcons being so bad against the pass. I just wish Dak Prescott were running a little bit more.

He has 25 rushing yards in seven games, something like that. And all right, so you guys said you liked them. What about Joe Flacco versus cousins and Dak? Behind them, agreed. You like them better. Who do you like better again versus cousins and Dak? Behind them. Agreed. You like them better. Who do you like better again? Cousins or Dak? I haven't basically back to back.

I like Dak slightly better. And I'll take cousins and I've got cousins a few spots ahead of Dak. It's almost like for me, the tiebreaker is who's got the better running game and it's Atlanta. Right. This is a feels Bonanza-y. It's the highest score of the week. Yeah.

Just the one with that one. No, but the end of the Cowboys all have the same score. They're all the same. They're all the same. They're all the same. They're. It's the highest score of the week. Yeah, just the one with that one. No, but the end of the Cowboys offense really. Is not. Clicking on all cylinders.

They are not, but you know, you saw some signs of life in the second half with Dak and CDLAM last week. And I mean, at some point, it it's either gonna come in garbage time which could happen or I think they'll start to connect you know a little bit more consistently. This is just not a bad defense for him. You know this is a defense that he could have success against. Okay. So, let's go Dak Prescott.

Dak or Stafford? Stafford over everybody. What if Puka doesn't make it? And not if Puka's out. Dacker Stafford. It's staff over everybody. What if it doesn't game and not if Pooka is out. Oh, that's fair. Yeah, if there's no Pooka, then we have to change that. But if Pooka plays, then Stafford said, all right, so looks I'll make this game quick here because you're starting lamb, you're starting London, you're starting B John, you're

going to start Kyle Pitts. And let's we'll talk about Rico Dowdle. We'll talk about the secondary wide receivers, but let me ask you about Jake Ferguson. Well, who do you like better, Jake Ferguson or Kyle Pitts? Jake Ferguson does have seven or more targets in four of his last five games. Pits over Ferguson.

Yep. Okay. Oh boy. I got a problem here. What's wrong? Nevermind, we're good. Are you sure? Yeah, my alarm was going off.

Take a little break. I thought I had to go turn the alarm off, but no, we're all good. Jake Ferguson. Your pair is not working today? Come on, get out of here, man. We do it all ourselves here. Jake Ferguson or Evan Ingram?

I've got Ingram higher. Ingram, but Ferguson has the better matchup. Yeah, good talk about that. Eagles defense been really good when we get to that game. Okay, so anyway, Mooney and Tolbert, I'm sure there's a big difference between them, but Jamie, do you like Darnell? Would you like secondary wide receivers in this game?

It's hard not to like Mooney. I mean, every game Cousins has played well, Mooney has had a big part in it. And so I think you still treat him as a number two receiver until he proves, you know, there's a consistent stretch of bad games for him. For Tolbert, there's been a consistent stretch of bad games for him. And so, you know, he needs to step up and have a strong performance here. But I also think that if that's going to have a big game, that he's going to have to have some hand in it, whether it's just a contributing role or a starting role. So desperation number three receivers,

slightly ahead of Xavier Leggett, if we're going back to that range of receivers. But you look at point total, you look at opportunity, you look at matchup, and this should be a game where Tolbert has a chance to succeed. It is, but there's been plenty of those games and Tolbert hasn't succeeded. You can go back to his last two games and he's been eight PPR points or lower in each of them. So I'm a little more hesitant on Tolbert. He's outside of my top 48

at wide receiver. I would start both Panthers receivers ahead of Jalen Tolbert. Mooney I'm sold on and a lot of it has to do with the fact that when Cousins has his big games and it really had a big half against Tampa last week, he wasn't pressured. The Bucks didn't blitz them. So he had all day to throw. And even on the times where they did blitz them in the first half, they didn't get particularly close to him. And so he just had the time to look downfield and that worked out well for pits and for Mooney. Is the Dallas pass rush as we know it now, any better than what the Bucs have? I would say no. So I think that there's going to be more opportunities for Kirk Cousins to chuck it long. And that's

obviously good for Mooney. It's the highest I've had him ranked this year. He's 20th for me in wide receiver PPR. Oh, man. Yeah. I mean, this, this past defense for the Cowboys has just really suffered the last two games, Jared golf, 30 points, Brock Purdy, 27 fantasy points. Although Purdy, Purdy did have the, he didn't really light them up through the air. It was this rushing, but he still had a very efficient game as a passer.

All right. So let's talk about Rico, Rico Dowdell. The Dallas does have a chance to get Doron Bland back. I don't think that'll affect Mooney. It might. I don't know. It depends on where Bland lines up and where Mooney lines up. But I agree. I don't think that secondary is playing at a high level. And even if they were just the fact that the pass rush is going to give cousins time makes me really like cousins. He's sixth for me. Oh, okay. Should I? Oh, okay.

Should I start these quarterbacks over Burrow? I'd start cousins over Burrow. No. Okay. All right. So let's talk about Rico Dowdle here. Did he crack your top 24? He's just outside for me.

Yeah, I like him though. Dowdle or Nick Chubb? Dowdle. Dowdle. Dowdle or Javubb? Doudel. Doudel. Doudel or Gervonta Williams? Doudel. In PPR, I've got Gervonta a spot higher. Gervonta at Baltimore. All right.

I think we're good here. Sit the DSDs and- It's got to be Doudel in the passing game if he's going to win. Falcons are top five in most receptions, a lot of running backs. Are they? Last time we saw that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was about to say last game six targets, five catches, 30 yards. Dallas has to give it to him though. He, you know, three games ago, he had one target and one catch.

He scored on it, but it was just the one. Dax going to give it to you. He's going to give it to you. Right? Right, Dave? Yep. Raise the roof. Okay. All right. Let's go to give it to you. He's going to give it to you. Right? Right Dave? Yep. Raise the roof. Okay.

All right. Let's go to our next game. Brain City. Actually, let's go to a commercial break. And when we come back, it's the game of the week. Although there are some weather concerns we should bring up. We'll be right back for Detroit at Green Bay after this. All right.

Detroit is at Green Bay. There is rain in the forecast. We're not going to make a big deal of it right now. We'll update you on Sunday if it looks bad. But rain usually isn't a huge deal. Wind would be if it's torrential, it could be a big deal. All right. So Green Bay, six and two, they're on a four game winning streak. They've scored 24 or more points in six straight games. Lions, six and one.

They're on a five game winning streak. They've scored 31 or more points in four straight games. Forty two or more points in three of their last four games and you just know who you're starting You're starting both running backs, but you know Montgomery is always we do get some Montgomery questions He's currently the number 11 running back per game and non PPR number 15 in full PPR And I think he has one catch he had one catch. Okay. No, sorry. He had one catch last week. Yeah. Two straight games with one catch. That's what I thought. Okay. So anyway, Montgomery or Giants starting running back?

Giants. No, if it's Tracy, I'll start Tracy. If it's Devon Singletary, I'll start Montgomery. Montgomery for me for both. Okay. You know what? We'll keep it simple. It's start St. Brown and the two running backs. Jared Goff or Jordan Love. Who do you like in this game? Love.

I currently have Goff over Love. I want to see how much more Love practices before I put him in over Goff. Yeah. Where is, what, what is the deal with the Packers passing game? This is the big, the big question here because how much do you trust Jordan love if he plays Detroit? Like I said, they faced really good quarterbacks. They haven't faced Mar Jackson, Josh, John, and face elite guys. Well, they face Baker held them to 20 points, but they haven't given up a huge

game yet, no multiple touchdown games, 12th best against quarterbacks and Love is injured. So. So it's been two games without Hutchinson, right? Yeah. Right. And one was against Mason Rudolph. Yeah. And the other was against.

Darnold. Darnold. I don't know if those guys are in the same league as Jordan Love. Yeah. I would agree if you were healthy, but I just don't know. If we practicing, you got to assume he's healthy, you know, and he's not, you know, who knows what he'll, what he'll take to subside the pain part of the game to help out his cause. It's called total. I just think if he's out there, you know, look, we had that we had the same situation with him when he came back from his

knee injury, right? And he wasn't a hundred percent and he still had three touchdowns in that game. Jordan love. So if he starts, I'm going to trust him. Okay. I think there's no question. He's got more upside than Jared Goff, but also first came to the lions outdoors, right? For a second. Oh, that's a good question. Is it the first outdoor game for the line? Three and two.

At Arizona at Dallas at Minnesota. So first outdoor game in weather could be tough. Some retractables there, right? I mean, could have been out. Yeah, but the retractables don't really count if if the top of the dome is open. Fine, it seems like there's seems outdoorsy to me. don't really count if the top of the dome is open. Fine. It seems like there's seems outdoorsy to me.

Okay. So then what do you think about Jaden Reed and Dobbs and where are these guys ranked? Jamie? They're just outside the top 24. You know, I do think if this is where you know the Jordan love questions come into play for me because if he was 100% healthy, then I think you could make a case for both of those guys. Just given the matchup. But you have to sort of build that in a little bit to the inconsistencies and the injuries, injury to him. And I'll say this, if Jordan Love was 100%

healthy, he'd probably be a little bit higher for me as well. So I do have that factored into his ranking, but there's just been no rhyme or reason to it. Now granted, you could say, okay, last week he got hurt and didn't finish the game. So who knows what those guys would have finished with. But Dobbs has been outperforming Reed in two of the last three games. And it's hard not to say that he may be the safer of the group. At some point, Watson's going to make a big play and then you're going to say, okay, he looks great. And then maybe Wicks makes a big play. You know, I know Dave, I think it was last week or two weeks ago, you were very high on, on Dantamia Wicks.

We were having the conversation of Wicks versus some other receivers in the high end number three range and he's capable of that, you know, so there, there's, there's that factor as well. And then you got, you know, Mr. touchdown Tucker craft. So he takes away touchdowns for those guys also. So it's look, it's a great group. You know, it's why Jordan love has been so successful.

It's just frustrating for us to say, this guy is going to definitely guarantee your production. And I think the reason you can buy in specifically to Reed and Dobbs is because of all the fantasy points that are given up to wide receivers from the Lions. Calvin Ridley was having a terrible year and all of a sudden with a huge target volume looks like an all- and has, you know, his best week of the season. So I've got Reid at the top of the list. It's mostly based on knowing that he's going to play a lot and versatile and all that stuff. But Dobbs is not far behind him.

Those are the two that I think you could really buy into is viable fantasy. Our biweek replacements. Number one wide receivers have absolutely owned Detroit. A wide receiver scored 16.1 or more PPR fantasy points in every game against the Lions. But these are some of the best wide receivers in football. Cup, Godwin, Marvin Harrison Jr., DK Metcalf, Lamb, Justin Jefferson,

and last week it was Calvin Ridley. But they have absolutely struggled against number ones. I don't know who the number one is. Right, like I was gonna ask you, who was the number one receiver last week for the Packers? These are all, but these are all, no, Godwin's a slot guy. Cupp's a slot guy, actually there are two slot guys in there. Lamb plays in the slot quite a bit too.

Jayden Reed is like a 75% slot rate guy. Right, slot rate and short routes. But here's the thing about Reed, the difference with Reed and the other 75% slot rate guy. Right. Slot rate and short, short routes. But here's the thing about Reed, the difference with Reed and the other 75% slot rate guys is that he gets downfield targets. That's what made him so good last year. But this year, this is what I noticed here, past attempts of 15 or more air yards in week one, he had three catches for 129 yards and a touchdown on four targets, 15 or more air yards. Since week one, five catches for 191 yards

and no touchdowns, seven targets in seven games. Those big plays coming out of the slot have disappeared since that Eagles game in week one. And he had a big catch last week. It was a 51 yard play, but he only had two catches. Yeah. So it's, you know, he needs to hit the big one and will he? I don't know.

The lions on paper are really good matchup. They give up the third most fantasy points to wide receivers. If you think this game is going to be a shootout, this game is, has a lower total than the Falcons game that surprised me a little bit. Probably close. What do you think about? Defense in this game too. What do you think about Tucker craft Dave? I think he's okay to start, but you're doing it on the hope that he scores a touchdown. He doesn't get good target volume. He's had five or fewer targets in each of his last four games, three or fewer catches in each of his last three.

And if he doesn't score, just go look at what he did against Arizona. Craft or Mark Andrews. I almost feel like they're the same guy. I'll take Andrews. Craft or Mike Gsycki of Higgins is out. Craft but they're close. You can make the case for Gysicki and PPR. Craft or Laporta?

I don't like starting with Gysicki. Craft or Laporta? Laporta. Sam Laporta. Packers give up the eighth most fantasy points to tight ends. They struggled against Ingram and Bretton Strange last week. Yeah, so he's a tough call. Laporta or Pitts? Pitts. Pitts, so he's a tough call. Laporta or Pitts?

Pitts. Pitts, but it's close. Laporta? Yeah, I've got Pitts six, Laporta eighth. Laporta or Kincaid? Laporta. Laporta. Jared Goff or?

Enjoy Laporta while you can because when Jameson Williams comes back, there could go his deep targets. Jared Goff or Derek Carr at Carolina? Goff. Goff. 22 or more, 22 fantasy points over under, six point per pass in the South Sound League. Jared Goff. Over if there's no Evan Williams and no Jair Alexander?

Yeah, baby. Boy, is this guy playing well. It's insane. But he just never throws 28 or fewer pass attempts in six or seven games. The only time he threw more was their one loss. 55 pass attempts against the Bucs in week two. I think that's it for this game. Not going to start like Khalif Raymond, are you?

No. All right. Nope. All right. That's it for Packers and Lions. Chicago's at Arizona. This is my favorite stat of the week. Of the week, I even tweeted it. Caleb Williams was pressured on 62.5% of his drop backs

at Washington last week. That is the highest pressure rate for any quarterback in any game this season. Let that sink in. That's what Caleb Williams was dealing with last week. The commanders have a good pass rush, third best in the NFL pressure rate on true media, commander's third lowest.

Combination of Washington being aggressive, the Bears losing their starting left tackle, Caleb Williams holding the ball way too long. Yeah, running for his life though. But this is a much better matchup from that standpoint. So they still have the offensive line concerns. But Dave, what are your expectations for Caleb Williams and DJ Moore specifically? The best part about Caleb Williams is that you can re, it's pretty easy to find another

quarterback to start over him until further notice. Flacco as an example, you can find off the waiver wire. Bo Nix you could trade for relatively cheaply. Derek Carr you can find on the waiver wire. He would be somebody that I would start over him. Um, I, I just, I'm, I'm nervous about Caleb Williams, A, having high pass attempt numbers and B having, you know, 275 yards, two touchdowns, three total

touchdowns, anything like that. I really think the key to the entire existence of the bears offense is their run game. And we saw it last week. They couldn't run early on the whole offense sputtered late third quarter. Deandre Swift rips off that long touchdown run. Then the bears suddenly got their act together. It's just like what we saw earlier this season when Swift started to get going. So too did the whole offense. I do not feel very confident in DJ Moore is anything more than like a borderline number two wide receiver that you're almost starting based on pedigree alone. He's not getting crazy high target volume from week to week.

And Caleb Williams isn't doing a good enough job locating him and then throwing accurately to him game after game Okay The thing is is this finally them is this the matchup that they're gonna take advantage of the Cardinals are certainly not I know It's gonna sound crazy, but I think I got to start respecting the commander's defense, right? The Cardinals are not I don't think that's crazy at all to say. Yeah. All right, so we're just there. The cardinals are not the commanders. No, but the Bears are not what they were three weeks ago either. Great. I could see Caleb turning it around just because of the pressure rate. But yeah, I don't know. Jamie, you are slightly, you are higher on DJ Moore. I think you have him 17th. Dave has him

26th in PPR. I probably have him too high. But no, again, it's and Dave said it's a lot based on what he's capable of doing, not necessarily what he has done. So this isn't necessarily a matchup. I think that you should be worried about the receivers not performing well. It's a matter of will he get the opportunities to perform well, and hopefully that's the case. Yeah, he needs the targets. And more is 28th for Dave, 17th for Jamie, and in the middle, 24th for Heath.

Okay, Deandre Swift and James Connor, both easy starts? Yes. I think so. Who do you prefer? Swift. I got some questions in the chat. Let's see how we do here. Caleb Williams or Justin Herbert?

Herbert. Caleb. Keenan Allen or Darnell Mooney? Mooney. Mooney. Swift or Jacobs? Swift. I'll take Jacobs. Part of my French Mooney.

But you're an idiot. Yeah. That's what the TV version says. Is that what it is? Yeah. Yippee-ki-yay, Mr. Falco. And Colkumet is a sit. Okay, let's go to Kyler Murray.

So we have talked about some really interesting quarterbacks and I was gonna bring up on Wednesday's show, see if I still have my Wednesday notes. What was that, the 30th? The glut of quarterbacks. Okay, there are five quarterbacks averaging 19 to 21 points per game. Kyler Murray, Sam Darnold, Brock Purdy,

Jared Goff, Kirk Cousins. And then there's like six quarterbacks averaging a little bit more than that. Alan Hertz, Flacco, Love, Wilson, Burrow. But you got Kyler, you got Goff, you've got Cousins in that that mix and then Dak Prescott too. So I was gonna ask, how do you rank Kyler Murray with the quarterbacks from the Green Bay Detroit game

and the Dallas Atlanta game? He's behind them, but not by much. How about Derek Carr or Kyler this week? Kyler. I would start Kyler over car. I've, I've gone back and forth with Kyler all week. I would say that if Jordan love is good to go, no real issues. He's an easy start over Kyler. If DAC, if DAC does it, what's his expectation?

It's to throw a ton. Can he, does he have the upside to beat what Kyler Murray can be? Cause Kyler can run. That's when the questions start for me. Same thing with Flacco, Darnold, Jamis, a lot of those guys just don't run. And it's that tool in his tool belt that makes me gravitate toward Kyler Murray. Even in a tough matchup like this, he was hitting a bunch of deep throws last week. I think he's going to have a hard time replicating that this week. But if he runs a lot more and if they're the other issue is number one, can he still hit

those deep throws? Number two, will he even have to run? Cause if the bears offense falls on their face, this is a James Connor week and Kyler is going to leave you empty. All right, Kyler, we got some questions. Until the Hail Mary help Jay and Daniels in check. They did. Yeah. So Kyler's Kyler's best games this season have come when he's broken off a huge run or last week when he threw for 300 yards and two touchdowns. Sure.

Prior to that San Francisco game 45, I think your touchdown run the week before that week before the office game was a 54 yard touchdown run. Is it too much? You can't really count on a a touchdown run. The week before that, week before the Dolphins game was a 54 yard touchdown run. Is it too much? You can't really count on a long touchdown run. You can count on some rushing numbers. Let me ask you a question. I've run full circle on Kyler Murray in the last 90 seconds. Well, yeah.

Look, he was facing the number one team against quarterbacks last week and he scored 26.2 fantasy points. We know that wasn't a real number. Right. Right. Right. Now the Bears are number one and, or they're maybe they're number two. They're about tied with the Dolphins. And it's another tough matchup, but it's tougher.

It's really tougher. I mean, Jayden Daniels had a pretty bad game before scoring eight points on the last play of the game. So questions in the chat, Kyler or Gino? Kyler, easily if Gino doesn't have Metcalf, it's closer if Metcalf plays. That's Kyler or Tua? Tyler. Tyler.

Yeah. Tyler or Stafford? Stafford. Easily if Puka plays, Tyler if Puka's up. Okay. Someone's saying, Tyler had 22 points against Miami. And I just want to point out, I said he had 26. It's the difference between four point and six point per passing touchdown leagues. So when I give quarterback numbers, it's and six point for passing touchdown leagues. So when I give quarterback numbers,

it's always six point per passing touchdown leagues, just so everyone knows. All right, start James Connor. Marvin Harrison Jr., you guys have him in the top 17, or no, 18. Heath, I think, has him 21st. He's coming off a good game, but even in that good game, he only had seven targets,

with Kyler Murray throwing a season high in pass attempts of 36. And the Bears are really good against wide receivers, but they are beat up. So Dave, make the case for Marvin Harrison Jr. Would you start him over the Colts wide receivers? Dave Korsuner I would start him over Pitman. I'm not starting them over down, certainly not in PPR. The hope is that the deep ball that, and it's not one, it's almost every target he had, those continue to happen and that Murray and Harrison have their timing figured out. And if that's the case, then even against this defense, I think they could make some good

connections. And you know that he's going to be involved in the red zone. The case against Marvin Harrison is simply that he, if it was a one week mirage against an overrated Dolphins defense and now he's taking on a real defense in Chicago. I think you view him as a number two receiver. It's the safest way to go. It's when you get into that group of Jayden Reed and Dobbs, Calvin Ridley, McConkie, Keon Coleman, you can see upside and downside with them too. You're hoping on Pedigree and just the simple fact that he's the

number one receiver in Arizona. So how many targets do you think he gets in this game? He can get to seven. Okay. So he has six games this season with at least six targets and in four of those he's been 15 and a half PPR points or more. So clearly numbers suggest when he's getting opportunities, he's performing. I would agree. I think six, seven targets is certainly realistic. And so I would bet on him coming through close to that number.

So how many of those games did he get over 15 PPR points without a touchdown? None. Okay. So he's caught a touch. That's what I think. That's what the whole ball game is. Actually, wait, that's not true. He had he had four for 130 and two touchdowns against the Rams. So even if he hadn't scored the touchdown, but he had eight targets in that game. But last year, he had eight. Yeah. But last week he had six for 111. So I was wrong.

So I mean, I was right and wrong, but no, he's had two games with 100, 111 or more yards, but he hasn't played Chicago. Right. They did struggle against McLaurin last week, but this has been a pretty tough matchup for receivers. And so here's a game. It's pretty simple. If Kyler gives him opportunities, you'll be happy about it. Right. And you could get a game. This is the floor, seven targets against San Francisco a few weeks back. He had two for 36. seven targets against San Francisco a few weeks back. He had two for 36. You're hoping that he's not like that whatsoever. Yeah. And I would look at like against Washington five for 45 and a touchdown. Had he needed that touchdown?

I think again, when it comes down to the game, you have to play with yourself in in determining is what what how many opportunities will he get? And if the answer is you think he's getting seven, six, seven targets, you're starting him. All right. Trey McBride is a top three tight end start him and Chicago's DST is a low end starter. Rams are at Seattle. This is, I think, my second favorite stat of the week. The Rams allow the second most passing yards per attempt in the NFL. But they haven't been that bad against quarterbacks and wide receivers

because they see the sixth fewest pass attempts per game. Pretty much every team they've played so far out of seven games, pretty much everyone is run heavy except for one team, the Raiders. The Raiders are fifth in pass rate, and the Raiders threw 44 passes against the Rams. Guess who's are fifth in pass rate and the Raiders threw 44 passes against the Rams. Guess who's number one in pass rate? Seattle. So you've got a team that stinks against the pass, but it has been hidden by the fact that they keep playing teams that like to run the ball against the team that hates to run the ball and throws all the time. So there's potential on paper for the Seahawks passing game. I think

to really have a strong showing here. With that said, this game and the starts and the sits are going to be largely determined by which wide receivers play. So we can skip the running backs because you should start Ken Walker and Kyron Williams, right? Just like start them. They're awesome. Automatic starts. We can skip the tight ends because you don't want to start them, right? Crant is a good desperation play of Metcalf is out simply because the Rams are number three in most fantasy points, lots of position. And God, I want to teleconference Heath in here because as of right now,

assuming Pukinakua plays, Matthew Stafford is top six for Dave and Jamie, and he's 24th for Heath. So why don't you guys make Jamie make the case for Stafford as a must start guy and then where do you put him in your rankings if Puka Nakua does not play? So six of seven games going back to last year where he's had Puka and Cup on the field. He's been 22 fantasy points or more. So you saw last week the upside of what those guys can be

when they're together and hopefully Puka is healthy. I mean, you'd like to see what this offense looks like moving forward with everybody on the field. If there is no Puka for Stafford, you can just go back to week two. Cooper Cup had a monster game, 21 targets, 14 catches, over a hundred yards scored a touchdown. And Stafford once again was under 17 fantasy points.

So he goes from top six to outside the top 12 for me and still somebody that I would stream but more in the conversation of Derek Carr and Bo Nix and Joe Flacco as opposed to oh my God, I have to start Matthew Stafford or I want to start Matthew Stafford. So it's just a matter of, you know, Puka is going to sway it that much. So hopefully he's, he's out there and then look, you're, you're starting both those guys. As they've said, you start with Puka and, and, and cup and both those guys are, you know, must start receivers. He loses his upside if there's no Puka. Let me give you this stat for Seattle. They've allowed 255 yards, multiple touchdowns and

23 or more fantasy points in six point per passing touchdown leagues to four of the last five quarterbacks that they have faced. They've been really bad. One of those was Daniel Jones without the neighbors. Exactly. Yeah. And then they've been pretty injured, but it's still they've been bad. Um,

I'm not sure if I'm not mistaken. Stafford lit up the Baltimore Ravens, right? In one game. Yes. in Baltimore. And that was in Mike McDonald's offense. Defense. Yeah. Uh, where is cup in the rankings, Dave?

And where is that? Was in the rain. If I recall. Where is cup in the rankings and where is he? If, um, if, uh, Pook is out and then if Pook is, is out, does any, like who replaces him, who plays that role? Tutu. Tutu will probably play the role. Dem to Marcus Robinson might see the targets though.

I will give me the rankings for cup with him without puka. Cup is currently 12th for me in PPR. If puka is out he would move up considerably. I'd probably put him at he'll end up at like nine. So he's a number one receiver either way. All right, Gino Smith. You guys have him around 20th, but if DK Metcalf plays, he would be what? Not that much higher.

Maybe 15th. Maybe. Metcalf? No, Gino, if with Metcalf. Oh, he'd be around 15th. Yeah. Okay. I think this Rams defense is getting better.

I don't know, man. Like what I just said, that might be true, but that stat really opened my eyes. Like this team is going to throw on them and they have a, I think a bad pass defense that's been hidden. And I'm actually still excited to start JSN as a number three receiver, just a number three receiver,

but that's the only type of league I have him in, three receiver leagues. And like, I'm not even considering getting away from him. I hope Gino plays well. You know, it's funny, he's, he's leading the NFL in passing yards, think still, right? Um, and he's had some good moments. He's had some stinker though. He was terrible last week. And you just wonder if they lose a game again and lose badly. Like, does Sam Howell get a chance? Oh, that would be fun for me. It would be fun for me, but I hope not.

Because you get to howl like a wolf. That's right. Okay, so JSN or Tyler Lockett, who do you like better? JSN. Okay. And JSN did get all the targets last week, six for 69 on seven targets against the Buffalo Bills.

But Lockett, yeah, I don't know, it's weird. Go figure. His horrible game finally comes when DK Metcalf's not on the field. And then that's it for actually Lockett or Xavier Liget. Liget. Liget over Lockett. What about JSN or Liget? JSN. I have JSN over Lig it. What about JSN or League it?

Jason. I have JSN over League it. I start JSN over Mike Cooper. JSN or wow. JSN or Tillman from the chat. JSN and a Tillman. JSN or Dobbins from the chat PPR. Jason.

Dobbins. All right so Jamie seems to be more into JSN this week. More anti the other guys mostly. Oh okay. You're anti Dobbins? Oh, cause it's the Browns. Yep. Washington is-

I'm gonna beat up on defense. This is not the same Browns. Browns run defense kind of stinks. Wash and they don't have- You keep saying that they're top five. Well, they're missing their best linebacker. Right? Yes. Where's my-

If JOK is out then- He is, I'm pretty sure he's beenbacker. Right? Yes. Where's my if J.O.K. is out, then he is. I'm pretty sure he's been ruled out. It's a big difference. Plus, they got rocked by the run last week. They guess they're OK. They don't stink against the run. They played Derek Henry. So that's but he never great game.

He had 11 for 73 in a touchdown. He just didn't run that much. They didn't give him that much. All right, maybe I was a little harsh, but without their top linebacker, I think it could be worse. That's definitely a big factor. Washington's at the Giants.

Updated stat of the game. I'm not even gonna tell you how wide receivers keep crushing the commanders. I'm gonna tell you this. In their last five games, they've held Marvin Harrison Jr., Amari Cooper, Deontay Johnson, and DJ Moore to 60 or fewer yards. Only one of those four wide receivers have scored. They did

get torched by Zay Flowers though. Yeah. Is this a tough matchup now for offenses, the Washington commanders? They definitely turned the corner. So, you know, we'll, we'll see. And, you know, to Dave's point, the run game got going for the Bears late in the game. That's because they couldn't run early in the game, you know, and so, well, hopefully Tyrone Tracy will take advantage of his out there. It's hard to trust Evan Singletary if he's, if he's the guy, but it's, it's, it's, it seems that's the way you should

be able to have success against them based on what we've seen the last couple of games. Yeah. So how good do you feel about the Giants running backs? I know you're starting neighbors, he's top eight for you. You're sitting Daniel Jones, we'll talk about Wondell, but how good do you feel about the Giants running backs? Jamie, I'll let you start.

I mean, Tracy's got three games in his last four with, I forget the number of carries, but it's like 15 touches or something like that. And he's had three amazing games with those with that workload Why would the Giants go away from that if he's healthy? So that's why you want him to be out there you want him to clear the concussion protocol and be able to go It just would be surprising if he does so on the short week after they played on Monday But again things are trending in the right direction

Singletary had a good game against them last time 16 carries 95 yards in the touchdown That was back in week two when Singletary was starting to get going a little bit. Then he had the groin injury. So we'll see how the Giants approach this. Do they give Singletary a little bit more work now that he's a couple of games removed from the groin injury? Or do they just continue to feature Tracy based on what we've seen? I hope that's the case.

So I think Tracy is a number two running back if he plays and Singletary is a flex if Singletary if Tracy's up. It's at least 17 carries at least 19 touches and at least 100 total yards for Tracy. Three of his last four games the only game he didn't do it in was against Philadelphia. They got blown out 28 to three and he had six carries three catches total dead of a game. Yeah. That's always a concern with the giants is that they just get game scripted and, and I don't know if Tracy would, would catch that. He had the six catches against Cincinnati, but other than that, he hasn't really had a lot of catches, but okay, whatever. He's a, he's a good start if he plays and

he's pretty much, I mean, I think one of you said you'd take Brian Robinson over him. One of you said you'd take Tracy over Brian Robinson, but I think there's a little bit more upside with Tracy than Robinson, but they're, they're all, they would end up being back to back. And it's in pencil for me that Robinson could go ahead of him. Robinson had a monster game. He had a career high rushing yards against the Giants in week two. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So he could easily do that again. There could be a key defender missing for the commanders. Frankie Louvoo has in practice this week. He's okay against the run. He's been one of their best pass rushers this year. And so if he's out, that's a big problem for Washington as far as getting after Daniel Jones. Pierre is asking for a recommendation for a DST this week. Well, you can definitely go with

Washington. They are highly recommended and they see their roster percentage now at 93%. So you may have missed the boat on that, but they've been one of the they've been picked up. So anyway, let's talk about Brian Robinson Jr. though, I you know, worth mentioning seven targets in his first two games. That's when Jayden Daniels was just checking down all the time. He's got five targets in his last five games. He had some injuries and missed like he played some less than full games there, but Jayden Daniels is not throwing to running backs on first

and second down. No, it wasn't the first two weeks. Speaking of Jayden Daniels, he's a must start guy. Start him. Daniels or Stafford? I have Daniels over Stafford. All right. So start Jayden. Did Daniels or Josh Allen? Allen is my number one QB. Terry McLoran's in the top 12. Zach Ertz, you guys like him? He's got three straight games with double digit PPR fantasy points.

I think he's one of the reasons why Brian Robinson isn't getting as many targets anymore. They're starting to use him more in the passing game. At least five targets. Take that for what it's worth in each of his last four games. And you said a double digit fantasy points in each of his last three, not one of my favorite tight ends, but you could get by with Zacherts this week and feel okay about it. I'd go a different direction. Giants are fourth best and fewest fantasy points to tight ends.

They've given up two games with 10 plus PPR points to the position. One of them was Erts, but it was 10.5. That was back in week two. 11 and a half, I believe, it's under 12, is the best game against them. So I don't think this is the spot where the commanders win. All right, the Giants,

they have faced a pretty easy tight end schedule. Ertz and Jake Ferguson are the only good ones they've faced. But no touchdowns, right? No touchdowns yet to a tight end. Okay, finally- And Ertz has won on the season, right? Irts has won two weeks ago against Carolina. Yeah. So one of the worst, the worst defense in the league he scored. Okay. Let's talk about Wondell Robinson in this game real quick here. Uh, we've Wondell Robinson or DJ Moore? More. More. Wondell Robinson

or Romeo Dobbs? I'm kind of done with Wanda. I don't feel real good about starting him. Not somebody you want to cut yet, but not someone you want to start. Yeah, look, he's he's had a pretty high target share in just about every game, but last week was weird. I don't know why Slayton got so many targets, but he's got a 29% or higher target share in five of eight games, 24% or higher in six of eight games. He needs to, he better get that. If he doesn't, he's gonna have a terrible game. All right, so he's a low end number three, right?

Is that fair to say with Wondell? Yes. Okay, all right, let's go to Jacksonville at Philadelphia. Stat of the game in their last three games, the Eagles have held Amari Cooper, Malik Neighbors, and Jamar Chase to 54 or fewer yards with only Chase scoring a touchdown. And that was Chase without T Higgins. So the Eagles have turned the corner defensively over their last three games.

Don't know if this is legit, but does this worry you at all for Brian Robinson? Would you start Brian Robinson Jr. or Devante Smith? Brian Thomas Jr. Thank you. I would start Smith over Thomas, but? Brian Thomas Jr. Thank you. I would start Smith over Thomas, but again, Thomas is hard to bench. So especially with being less than 100%, but still he's a top 20 wide receiver. I'd start Josh Downs over Brian Thomas Jr. too. I agree.

I, it's not that I don't like, I like that the upside, it's totally an upside play for Brian Thomas Jr. and the fact that he should see a lot of targets in the game and he's not just a downfield guy. He gets targets in the red zone too. But this is a borderline impossible situation for Trevor Lawrence. He just got his left tackle traded away. His backup left tackles Walker a little. He's not bad, but he's not. Well, he started last week in the game where Lawrence had his best game of the season. Okay. But this is not going to be one of his best games of the season. No, I agree. The thing that I think you look for Thomas, for example, because nobody's starting

Lawrence in this matchup, is that there is no Christian Kirk. So do they give him and Gabe Davis also banged up? So does he get force-fed targets like we haven't seen before, which is certainly a possibility. Does he run a few more different routes because of the absence of Kirk and, you know, maybe they move them around a little bit more. That's certainly a possibility. But yes, the Eagles defenses turn the corner and you got to give them credit for, I think, finally getting the hold of, you know, Vic Fangio system, guys stepping up in the secondary. Pass rush has certainly been a much improved situation for them. Guys stepping up in the secondary pass rush has certainly been a much improved situation for them And so it's not slam dunk Brian Thomas, you know

Not a guy you want to play in the FS unless you're gonna go contrarian But I do think that if you have him on your team given the landscape of what receivers are It's very difficult to bench one touch found allowed through the air since the by 14 sacks for the Eagles defense since the by They have absolutely turned it around Cleveland and the Giants were two of those teams. They had 15 of their 16 sacks but a few things here, okay? Brian Thomas Jr. is amazing. So you guys have him in the top 16. Heath is lower on him. He's got him 31st in PPR, 23rd in non-PPR. But what was I going to say? Oh, both of the Jaguars starting offensive guards haven't practiced. So that's that's

trouble. But also Darius Slay hasn't practiced. So that's a starting cornerback for the Eagles that may not play in this game. And then you guys talked about you don't really want to start a Jaguars running back Bigsby is a flex if if ETN does not play and if ETN does play, would either ETN would ETN crack your top 24? No. If ETN does play would either ETN would ETN crack your top 24? No. If ETN does play, who do you think leads the team in carries?

Bigsby. Doesn't mean he's gonna have a lot of carries though. And then Evan Ingram is- I would start Madison with confidence over any Jaguars running back right now. Okay. Start Jalen Hurts, he's top two, start Saquon Barkley, he's top two, although I will say this about Barkley, he has two to three targets in each of the four games that AJ

Brown has played. He has 13 targets in the three games without AJ Brown. His target share has dropped dramatically with AJ Brown. But you start Barkley, Devontae Smith, when Dallas Goddard doesn't play, he scored 20 or more fantasy points in five of eight games going back to last season when either Goddard doesn't play. He scored 20 or more fantasy points in five of eight games going back to last season when either Goddard or AJ Brown has not played. And you're not going to start Grant Calcatero, right? But he has had two solid games in the last three, but you know it's due with your Eagles. All right. Saints are at the Panthers.

Let's wrap up quickly here with this one. Stata of the game. The Panthers have allowed four touchdowns to tight ends in their last two games. Second most fantasy points to tight ends, despite no tight end having more than five targets all year. I would love to make the case for Joanne Johnson as a sleeper, but there's just too many good tight ends. But you know, Joanne Johnson's a sleeper. He scored against them in week one. He did. And in back in week one, he was playing second fiddle to foster Morrow. That's not going to be the case now. All right. This is a pretty easy game, right?

Mara also had a touchdown in week one. Yeah. This is a pretty easy game, right? I mean, like, well, Camara, Olavi are obviously starts. Yep. And where do you rank Derek Carr, who lit this team up in week one? Right around 15. You know, I had 27 fancy points against the Panthers in week one that was at home.

He is coming off an oblique injury, you know, and I don't like when you hear it I know what he's saying, you know, he's like I'm not the savior for the season So could this be a game where they just run all over Carolina? Absolutely, you know, we're Kamara and maybe taste some hill You know Kendrick Miller and Jamal Williams are both bang banged up. So we'll see what that means for for taste them if you're looking for maybe a desperation play a tight end. But he's got every opportunity here to have a similar type of game to what Bo Nix just had.

And I know that's what Heath is kind of banking on by ranking Carr in his top 12. So great DFS play, great opportunity for him to have a strong performance. But wouldn't surprise me if it's the Kirk Cousins game against Carolina, where he's coming off the 50 the 50 point game or 46 point game against Tampa Bay and the next week had 15 points. That's why I'm a little bit lower on him, but I don't mind him as a bi-week QB.

Car, golf or Gino asks David. Golf. Golf. And Gino would be ahead of car for me if Metcalf plays. Chuba Hubbard or K Dot and it flex. If Brooks is out, plays. Chuba Hubbard or K.Otten at flex. If Brooks is out, it's Chuba easy. If Brooks is in, it's closer, but I would go out. You gotta run guys. Okay. All right. Yeah. So let's talk about Chuba Hubbard and, you know, coming off a nine point fantasy game at Denver, he still hasn't had a good game with Bryce Young

at quarterback. So including week one, including week one against the Saints. The Saints are worse than they were then. But yes, this is a great matchup. So Tyrone Tracy Jr. Chuba Hubbard, Devin Singletary Chuba Hubbard. What do you think? Tracy over Hubbard Hubbard over Singletary. Jalen Waddle or Chuba Hubbard? Hubbard. This is with or without Jonathan Brooks? Yep. All right. So you still like Chuba Hubbard? Hubbard. This is with or without Jonathan Brooks? Yep. All right. So you still like Chuba Hubbard?

Okay. Yeah, I think, you know, the thing with Brooks is I forget, I think it was Heath said it on CBS Sports Network on Wednesday that we had the Chiefs game, the first game that Kareem Hunt was active and Carson Steele was still the starter. And then Kareem Hunt came in the game and you were like, oh, okay, he's different. He's gonna be the guy moving forward. Like you wonder if that happens with Brooks,

like, oh, he's a little different, you know, and looks good and they maybe just, you know, give him every chance to be the guy. But I mean, you know, first NFL game coming off of an ACL tear, like how many touches are you expecting for Brooks? Like I would like to see him play. I'd like to see him get the Miles Sanders touches,

which is basically about 10. And then you kind of go from there. And Xavier Liggett, I feel like you guys might be a little low on him. He's not in this, he's just outside the top 40, but the Panthers allow the six, the Saints allow the six most fantasy points to wide receivers.

And Bryce Young did look a lot better last week. Yeah. And he missed Liggett on a open deep ball, which is a problem. I mean, that's not a good thing, but he was open. But anyway, you guys aren't excited about starting anyone in the know, it's not that we're not excited. I think it's just, you know, confidence factor, like, I'm starting him in, I think, two leagues, we get, you know, just with the idea of it's one thing I start five receivers, one like I start four, you know, so those formats is easy to start them.

Three receiver league, you know, if you don't have a strong enough flex, I don't think he's a top 36 receiver right now. Good question here to end the show. Chuba Hubbard or JSN half PPR? It's a lot of moving parts. So Chuba, easy if there is no Brooks. JSN, if there is Brooks. Chuba, if there is Brooks, Chuba if there's Metcalf,

Chuba if there is Brooks and Metcalf. Okay. So the only- Like cover all angles there? Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. And I, the Saints DST, you just have them at number one this week?

Yes. They're so bad though. This is the worst DST week I've ever seen. It's pretty bad. Yeah, ever seen. It's pretty bad. Yeah, I guess. It's like, I forget who the Chargers play next week. It's another good matchup, maybe Tennessee. Yeah, I don't know.

This team's, this DST is just, that's bad. Hopefully you started the Jets. All right, we're out of here. Have a great weekend. We will talk to you on the Mailbag later on. See you everybody. Paramount Podcasts