Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC); Replacement RBs; D'Ernest! (10/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 22, 2021

D'Ernest goes to the end zone! What a performance by D'Ernest Johnson, and that's where we'll start as we recap Broncos-Browns and talk about the overall concerns we have for these offenses given the QB situations. And is Javonte Williams moving closer to taking over the Broncos backfield? ... Week 7 will be another big week for replacement RBs (12:30). We assess the group including Darrel Williams, Chuba Hubbard, Khalil Herbert, Devontae Booker and several more. Which ones are we confident in? Then we'll give you the news and notes (18:00), Beat the Waiver Wire (22:00) and the Startometer (26:00) for Lions-Rams, Football Team-Packers and Texans-Cardinals ... Start or sit for Bears-Bucs (31:00), Saints-Seahawks (42:00), Panthers-Giants (50:30), Lions-Rams (55:40), Football Team-Packers (1:00:00) and Texans-Cardinals (1:05:00) ... Email us at [e-mail] Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Happy Friday, everybody. What's up? You know what? We got a little drama last night. We had the Broncos just with this nice, leisurely drive. They're down by 10 in the fourth quarter. They don't care. They're just going to run the ball and saunter over to the line of scrimmage. Just nice little scrimmage that they had last night. It's ridiculous. A little

urgency, please. But they made it a three-point game and couldn't get off the field because Dearness Johnson is incredible. We welcome you to the Friday edition of Fantasy Football Today starts and sits for the NFC home game. Six more games to break down today, plus reviewing last night's game. Jamie, not a bad game, I guess. It was like, you know, predictably low scoring, but hey, it's 2021 and we get nothing but drama on primetime. Yeah, great job by Dearness Johnson. I whiffed on that one, so, you know,

wish they could take that one back. He was fantastic and, you know, it's fun to see, you know know it'd be fun to see what happens when nick chubb is back and what their role is until kareem hunt returns how much they'll continue to lean on on dearness johnson um but if nick nick chubb is out you got to feel pretty good about having a starting running back and it was good to see uh them take advantage of the matchup. Case Keenum didn't throw up all over himself, so he played well. And it's unfortunately time to, I think, say goodbye to Odell Beckham as a fantasy receiver. It's just I don't think it's ever going to happen for him.

Yeah, he played about 60% of the snaps. They said he was not healthy, that he really wanted to be out there with his teammates, so he gave it a go. We had a lot of injuries last night, too. Great for him as an NFL player. It's just, you know, as a fantasy receiver, I just don't know what you're going to get from him anymore. You know, healthy, not healthy.

It's just, he might just be taking up a roster spot for you. Yeah, I guess if he's healthy and Jarvis Landry isn't, people might have a hard time dropping Beckham, but maybe not. But Landry played. Yeah, but Landry got hurt. He left late in the game. Oh, that's true. Yeah. He left, I think, on the last drive of the game. I thought they said it was minor, though. Okay. I didn't see an update on that.

Dave, we also had a lot of people. You know who the most started running back in this game was? You want to guess? Javante Williams. Yes, it was. Javante Williams. Yes, it was. Javante Williams. Oh, no, no. No, I'm wrong.

I'm wrong. No, it was Dearness Johnson. Okay. He was at 69%, sorry, right? I have Javante at 59% and Dearness at 65%. I thought it was 69% for Johnson. Jamie, get your head out of the matter. Johnson played 69% of the snaps.

All right, guys. Come on. That's what you saw. Grow right, guys, come on. That's what you saw. Grow up. No, he did. He was really 69%.

I'm just kidding. All right. So dive back into that in a second. So I want to preview what's coming up. The, the replacement running backs are going to assess them this week. Of course, some of them yesterday,

but some of them we talked about yesterday, but we'll go through all of them today. So that's Daryl Williams and Collins and Booker and Hubbard and Patterson, perhaps, and Herbert and maybe Devante Freeman, Eli Mitchell. Guys, you picked up off waivers at some point this year. What can we expect from them? Beat the waiver wire. Only two teams on by next week.

Not the same kind of beat the waiver wire. And the six games starting with Chicago and Tampa Bay in just a bit. So the injuries in this game, Jarvis Landry left, Beckham left, then he returned. Donovan Peoples-Jones was hurt in pregame warmups. Cleveland also lost cornerback Denzel Ward to an injury. And Baker Mayfield has a fractured shoulder. So he seems more optimistic about his status than the most people i don't know i guess i shouldn't say that but he kept saying he was going to play this week and then it's like no

von miller left with an ankle injury and and those are injuries so dave the von injury i think is is considered relatively minor and with 10 days to go till their next game, he should be fine. He said his pride was hurt more than his ankle after all the bleep he talked. He said, yeah. All right. Javante Williams. You know,

if you're on Twitter during a Broncos game, it doesn't take much. It takes a seven yard run for basically for Javante Williams, for people to start go, Oh, give him the ball more. But he did. They both scored.

I mean, again, it was even split. Like, do you think that giovante williams yeah okay like do you think you can explain that giovante williams is any closer to taking over this backfield no i like the fact that he first of all this was the first game where there wasn't that much of a split. Melvin played 59% of the snaps, which was a little alarming. But in the fourth quarter, it was 11 of 18 snaps for Javante. Javante played 20 snaps in the game. 11 came in the fourth quarter.

That tells me that they wanted to get him on the field late. They thought that he was the best running back that fit them when they were chasing points. So I'm encouraged by that. And he didn't have that big breakaway run. That was the thing that we kind of really relied on him for the past couple of games. He didn't have that in this game. Thank goodness for the touchdown catch for, for both him and for Melvin Gordon in time.

I think the Broncos are going to realize that Javante Williams should be closer to 59% of the snaps than 41% of the snaps. And Mel Williams should be closer to 59% of the snaps than 41% of the snaps. And now then should be closer to 41% than 59%, but they're both going to play as long as they're healthy. So it's going to be a frustration, a frustrating exercise for fantasy managers every single week. But Javante Williams, still somebody who I think, especially when there's buys qualifies as a low end number two running back. And until there's really a good separation, Melvin's going to be really close to him. They're tethered together, and they'll keep each other from being top 15 running backs. The most encouraging thing I think from that game last night was Mike Boone was healthy,

and they made him a healthy scratch. So it didn't make it even worse because there was some talk about him playing also, which would have been just a terrible, terrible situation if you're getting three guys on the field by the way we did have a in the chat here on youtube we had a team name tuesday on a friday it's from dory giovante suck your blood very uh very appropriate yeah very good i love it uh and by the way it's not gonna work christmas time you you were right uh about dearness johnson's star percentage so i i recorded his star percentage about a half hour before the game and it was 65 by game time was up to 69 so people set in their lineups i guess kind of late um but just wanted to clear that up dave what did

you want to say about dearness johnson so 22 carries, 146 yards and a touchdown, plus two catches for 22 yards. Tremendous performance. What did you think? I think that, first of all, like I had him, I wrote him as a start in my column, but even I feel the same way Jamie does. Like clearly had him way too low in my rankings.

I had the Broncos running backs ahead of him. I feel dumb about it but he not only did he look better than he had previously the offensive line for cleveland just mauled denver's defense denver was playing with backup linebackers you could tell their their d-line was gassed by the fourth quarter and they didn't look particularly good on the very first drive. I mean, Johnson's first run was 20 yards. He looked pretty good.

So it's a, it's a fresh reminder to everybody Thursday night, short week, always better for the running backs than it is for the defenses that they play, especially better for them when the offensive line is mostly healthy and the linebackers and defense that they're playing against, especially when they're on the road is aren't healthy.

So I think it was just a really good mix for everything to go right for Dearness Johnson and fantasy managers. If Chubb is out next week, can feel pretty good about trying him again. I think two things. One, probably Antonio Gibson is going to be the start of the week next week if he's healthy, if he gets Denver. But two, beat the waiver wire now and get Jared Patterson in case Gibson's out because that's who faces the Broncos next week.

Yeah, and the Browns play the Steelers at home. The Steelers are going to come off a bye. So they'll be resting ready to go. I still think that there's a good opportunity for Johnson to be okay next week. If he's by himself, he's a starter. There's no way about it. You wonder, though, if he's not by himself, if he can get eight to ten carries or something like that. Oh, he will for sure.

They're not going to give everything to Nick Chubb. They'll give a lot of it, but they won't give everything, especially not at 100%. All right, let me just finish with this game here. Do you have general concerns about either offense going forward with their quarterback situations? Obviously, Cleveland. Yeah, I mean, is that going to affect Nick Chubb?

You know? Or do you think he'll be immune to it? There could come a game where it affects the run game. Yeah. I think the thing for Chubb is you have to hope that he's just more involved in the passing game. So if he's getting maybe three to five catches a week, then he'll be fine.

He's just too good. And this offense, look, it sounds like Conklin's close. So with Conklin and Wills back, Wills back last night was huge. And so I think as long as the offensive line's intact and you have the receivers healthy to at least threaten the defense, they may not be great fantasy assets, but they're still going to be good players and scare defense to whatever extent. So Chubb will be fine.

You know, he may not return top five value, but I think he'll still return top 10, top 12 value. And Johnson will be, you know, a good complimentary option. You know, when everybody's off a buy, he's probably still in the flex conversation until Kareem Hunt is back. Because like you said, eight to 10 touches in this offense is probably still very good. But for the the Broncos I think you got to be a little concerned because

Teddy's looked bad the last two weeks and you know you're just seeing how teams are defending them at this point you know if you take away the big play to Sutton uh the air yards are great to talk about but if they're not connecting it's not going to help you if he's not finding the end zone and they were just sitting on no offense routes uh tim patrick picked the worst time to have a bad game because jerry duty is now back in week eight according to reports so it becomes more crowded offense on on a team that has you know some quarterback issues and you saw you know a lot of people clamoring for drew lock to be in the game last night because teddy just didn't look right yeah sutton had 68 yards it was his fourth best game yardage wise this year so four

games with under 70 yards for Sutton and now here comes Jerry Judy back into the mix it's it's a big question mark now about that passing game in Denver okay we'll talk about it more on HQ noon eastern Monday through Friday but Sunday 10 a.m. to 1 p.m. Eastern. Yeah. CBS Sports HQ. Watch it on the CBS Sports app on your Apple TV, on your Roku, whatever it is on your smart TV.

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and Sian Ajad. They got cash and GPP analysis episodes on tuesdays and thursdays deep diving into pricing and matchups listen to the fantasy football today dfs podcast wherever you listen to fft so i don't know that just real quick so mary mary k cabot who covers the browns for uh the.com, I guess it is. She says, Stefanski said about Jarvis Landry that who hobbled off late after landing Aquaman's knee is okay. That's good. That's what I thought.

We'll get him next week. He's a clutch receiver. He's never a bad option as a number three or flex receiver. I'll tell you how he's a smart player, too, because he knew he dropped that ball. And he was hurrying everybody to get back. He's like,

yeah. All right. So let's talk about the replacement running backs this week. And they're going to have a tough act to follow. Dearness Johnson is, is probably going to be the best one, but your level of confidence in the group, right?

So Daryl Williams against Tennessee. I guess we can turn this into a quasi-start-o-meter here, but I'll go down the list. This is actually based on Dave's rankings, but Darrell Williams against Tennessee. You guys supremely confident, must start in Williams? Yes. He's a must start.

Chuba Hubbard at the Giants? Yes. Yes. Must start. Anyone else that you feel is a must start? No. I'm including Eli Mitchell, by the way. Based on the track record from last night, no. Okay, so what are we looking for?

Are we looking for 15 PPR points or 10 non-PPR points? That would be nice. I think Devontae Booker and Alex Collins have a shot, assuming Collins plays. Okay. Collins against the Saints. The Saints are seriously good run defense, though. I know Pittsburgh was supposed to be good.

He got 100 yards. He will, but also DJ Dallas. Yeah, we got to start thinking about DJ Dallas and Travis Homer at this point because if Collins doesn't practice again on Friday, I know they still have Saturday to go, but if Rashad Penny's not active and Collins misses practice through Saturday, you might want to be picking up DJ Dallas

or Travis Homer now, depending on what league you're in, because if those are the two guys, while they may not be great, opportunity is going to be there for them. Will we get 12 PPR fantasy points from Collins or Booker? No. I think you'll easily get it from Collins or Booker? No. I think you'll easily get it from Booker.

Really? Yeah. Okay. I don't think Carolina's run defenses have made. They lost Shaq Thompson. And so since then, they've allowed almost six yards per carry. And yes, they've taken on great running backs. But I think Booker's worth starting this week.

If Shepard is out for the Giants, that could just be an absolute – and Ingram. I mean, just an absolute disaster. Both guys downgraded on Thursday. So if you don't have Tony, you don't have Galladay, you're talking about maybe Darius Slayton playing. But if Shepard is out and that's the defense that they're facing, I guess 12 PPR points is not that hard to –

He had almost 11 last week for the work. But I mean, if that's you're telling me what the potential is, I would try to avoid him. You talking about Booker? Yeah. I mean, I don't want a guy that's getting 10 PPR points. That's not good. You know what's interesting?

Thank you. We had a whole debate about this when you weren't around. It's not good. But if you get 10 from your flex, it's really not that bad, right? I mean, it's... I mean, under the circumstances of what this week is, it's not bad. I started Tim Patrick in a flex last night. That's bad.

I don't want to be searching for 10. Right, right. Or hoping for 10. What did you make of... I'm guessing nothing, and I didn't make much of it either, but thinking about it i mean the giants got blown out last week and they kept their starters in for the entire game basically of course because he's a high school coach but not davante booker so yeah because i get that you know

i'm saying like maybe maybe he's not just the every down back i don't know that it meant anything but it was, they left shepherd out there. They left Daniel Jones out there. They did not leave Devante Booker out there. It could be position. Exactly. That's exactly what it is.

Cause you know, heaven forbid he gets hurt. They're already down Saquon. They know they've got nothing behind. It's Gary Brightwell and Elijah Penny. Right. But what he's more valuable than Daniel Jones. Definitely no run game. If they don't have Devante Booker,

I can't believe Booker's that important, but here we are. All right. So we got Jared Patterson, potentially Gibson did practice yesterday. So we're ranking. He was upgraded to limited. Who Gibson?

Yeah. Yeah. I said he did. Yeah. Khalil Herbert at Tampa Bay with right now. No Damian Williams, Devante Freeman against the bangles with Murray missing practice so far. And then Eli Mitchell.

I, and maybe we didn't really consider him a replacement running back. Cause it's been since, you know, week one, but I put him in this list, you know, is,

is would Mitchell be better than Herbert and Freeman or no? For me? Yes. Not for me. Um, not Freeman and PPR, no. No. It's a tough week right now

because we don't know if Murray's going to play. We don't know if Gibson's going to play. We don't know if Damian Williams is going to play. Well, I mean, we'll know in a few hours. Most likely. Yeah. All right, so let's just talk. Yeah, get ready for the,

hey, Adam, what do you think about Devontae Freeman? Oh, hold on. He's got the practice board. Yeah. Well, why don't we talk about Yeah, get ready for the, hey, Adam, what do you think about Devontae Freeman? Oh, hold on. She's got the practice report. Yeah. Well, why don't we talk about movies or something for the next three hours until the practice reports come out? We'll just make this a... We might as well.

All right, fine. We'll see you at 2 o'clock for the mailbag show. So it seems like Daryl Williams and Chuba Hubbard are supremely confident starts. Collins and Booker are on the fence. And then after that, you you know I think that Heath is gonna like Khalil Herbert in PPR if there's no Damian Williams my guess is more than you guys let me check the rankings I I don't mind Herbert he's he was I put him ahead of everybody that played on Thursday so that's not gonna look good but he he's still if there, I put him ahead of everybody that played on Thursday. So that's not going to look good,

but he, he's still, if there's no Damien Williams, he's going to get a ton of work for the bears. Is he though? Because like, you know, I don't think the bears are going to completely abandon their run game.

I think they fancy their run game is, is a solid. If they can stay in the game early, Herbert's going to be fine. If they get blown out early, then it's going to be bad for Khalil Herbert. So it's just how you, how you sort of approach the game. I don't think Herbert's going to be fine. If they get blown out early, then it's going to be bad for Khalil Herbert. So it's just how you approach the game. I don't think Herbert's going to have a great

game. I would take the under on the 10 PPR points if he doesn't score. If he scores, they'll be fine, but they don't give up a lot of rushing touchdowns. So that's the problem. Let's do our news and notes here. Alex Collins mispracticed, as mentioned. Josh Jacobs had an interesting quote about his offensive line.

They're coming off a pretty decent run game against the Broncos. He said the offensive line is finally getting more cohesive now, starting to gel a little bit. And he also said, I tell them, not about his offensive line, I think he meant his coaching staff, I tell them, I don't want this to be a one-man show. My body don't want this to be a one-man show. You feel me? So I tell them, incorporate Kenyon Drake just to see him have success and have him kind of coming into his role on this team has been huge. That's Josh Jacobs talking about Kenyon Drake. That's wild.

Usually you don't hear players talking about that. Usually players want the ball all the time, especially running backs. Yeah. This is a good story about the run game on ESPN, Dallas Goddard off the reserve COVID list, but he did not practice. running backs. Yeah, this is a good story about the run game on ESPN. Dallas Goddard off the reserve COVID list, but he did not practice. So hopefully he gets out there today.

We're ranking him as of now. There have been some inquiries about Marlon Mack. According to Josina Anderson, four teams that are among the teams who have inquired are the Chiefs, the Panthers, 49ers, and Saints. Jerry Judy expected to play next week, as Jamie mentioned. Are we worried about Tyreek Hill or Travis Kelsey missing this game? Not as of now. And just with the Marlon Mack thing, think about two of the teams that were referenced there, right?

The Chiefs and the Panthers. How long are the starting running backs going to be out if they're looking at Marlon Mack? Damian Williams still on reserve COVID list. Taysom Hill missed practice. Traquan Smith could be back this week. They got the Monday night game. T.Y. Hilton missed practice.

He's 50-50. Sterling Shepard and Evan Ingram both on the injury report now. Shepard was limited with a hamstring injury. Ingram missed practice. I don't know. Darius Slayton? Oh, darn. No, Slayton would be...

It would be good for Slayton if Ingram didn't play. That's what I mean, yeah. Pick him up. Desperation. Keep the leagues, yeah. A.J. Brown missed practice, but I think we expect him to play as long as he didn't need any fast food this week. Julio Jones practiced.

Are you guys ranking Julio Jones? Not yet. He's limited. Let's see what happens on Friday. My guess is that he'll be limited on Friday and then he'll be listed as questionable and we'll take it to Sunday Okay, Antonio Brown, still missing practice There's got to be some concern there, right?

And Rob Gronkowski too? Gronk is probably out I would be surprised if he plays, but it's a pain tolerance thing. Brown we'll find out today. That's clearly a great sign for Mike Evans and Chris Godwin because you know that they would benefit in a big way. Then you probably look at Scotty Miller

if you're desperate for a receiver. How about OJ Howard if Gronk and Brown are out? There are some tight end desperate fantasy managers out there. Yes. He would qualify. Yep. Howard had 10 targets the last two weeks, so they're starting to work him up.

He's playing more than Cameron Brait, too. We talked about the Miami-Atlanta game yesterday, but both of the cornerbacks have been limited in practice for Miami. They're starting corners. If they play, does that dampen your enthusiasm on Matt Ryan? Are you going to move him down? No. No. No. Okay.

It's weird. It dampens my enthusiasm a tad, but I'm not going to move him down because the quarterbacks who are behind him are guys that I just can't see being that much better than Matt Ryan. Latavius mispracticed and Antonio Gibson did practice. That was a good sign. Alright, it's time for Beat the Wave of Wire.

You mentioned McLaurin. McLaurin didn't practice. I didn't mention that. Oh, no, I'm sorry. He was limited. I think he didn't practice on Wednesday. He was upgraded and limited on Thursday. He'll play.

He's trending. Cool. Okay, now it's time for Beat the Wave of Wire. A lot of DSTs out there, so you don't necessarily have to beat the waiver wire. I mean, there are a lot of good ones, good options that are going to be available, then it's not a huge priority, I guess,

but you do have the Bengals at the Jets next week, Chiefs hosting the Giants on a Monday night. If anyone drops Buffalo on their bye, you can always pay attention to that. If anyone drops Buffalo on their bye, you can always pay attention to that. If anyone dropped Tyler Bass, honestly, and this again, I'm not saying that you should roster two kickers, but hey, you've got some scrub

that you don't need. Maybe you'd roster two kickers for a day. My son has an undefeated fantasy team and he insisted on keeping Tyler Bass on his bench and not going to. I was like, it's a kicker, Ryan. Who cares? No, dad, I'm keeping Tyler Bass. He's been awesome.

My son's doing it. You can do it too if you're all about that Bass. So that it's really about... For Beat the Waver, I don't know if you guys have any options that you love, but I was thinking maybe are there some running backs that... Shout out if you thought about Tommy Tremble just now, by the way,

to everybody listening. All about that bass, no tremble? Yeah. I feel that. So James says that Marlon Mack is a must-roster player. Any running backs that you could see coming into some more work? The names that I thought of were maybe Sivan Ahmed, Wayne Gallman, Jermichael Hasty. Marlon Mack was on my list.

Who else? What do you think, Dave? I think that Ahmed makes sense because Gaskin's been terrible. And I think they know what they've got in Malcolm Brown. They know what they have in Sivan Ahmed too, but I wonder if he starts to get more work.

I don't think that Gallman is necessarily worth adding, but I do wonder if he starts to take some work. I don't think that Gallman is necessarily worth adding, but I do wonder if he starts to take some work away from Mike Davis. I wonder if Cordero starts to take some work away from Mike Davis because he's just been so inefficient. I'm a little nervous about Mike Davis this week, even though it's a great matchup against Miami.

Hasty is worth stashing in deeper leagues. Penny, obviously, if there's an opportunity for him to play with Collins being out and if he's ready to go he's probably at the top of this list mac is the one that i just i don't know if i feel that good about i know he could get traded i don't think he gets traded and finds himself in a feature role anywhere uh the one for me that's still available in the threshold we talk about is ramondre stevenson because he's playing right now. Oh, yeah. That's a great one. He's at 59%. What percentage, Jamie?

59? What is it? 59%. Okay. I didn't hear you. I was too busy blabbering over you. Yeah. There are so many DSTs that I think are worth rostering. If we're talking Marlon Mack,

it might not be a bad idea if you have a roster spot to put one of the Texans running backs on your list too. Because if those guys get traded, it's still a possibility before November 2nd. So Ingram, David Johnson, Phillip, Lindsay. I can't imagine that they're not trying to make calls to see if somebody will give them a sixth, a conditional pick, something just to alleviate the clutter of what those guys have been and get some value in return because they don't have any long-term value to that team.

Maybe Lindsey does, but that's about it. Okay, and I think T.Y. Hilton is an interesting wide receiver. He has Tennessee, the Jets, and the Jaguars beginning in Week 8. So he had 80 yards, I think, right? Four catches for 80 yards last week in his only game. So Tennessee next week, then the Jets, then the Jaguars. Hilton's about 50% rostered, something like that.

Jamison Crowder? Yeah, Jamie, though, it's kind of your thing. Do you have any kicker streamers out there for the Justin Tucker managers for Week 8? Oh, let me look. All right, let's go to the start-o-meter here and then we'll get into the starts and sits for all six games but these are the last three games we're going to talk about if you don't have all the time in the world you can't make it to the end of the podcast we'll

give you the cliff notes on these three games greg joseph greg there you go you fulfilled your duty start-o-meter for the lions and the Rams. DeAndre Swift, 0-10. 10 in PPR, 9-1. Alright, he's a start. Jamal Williams. 5 in PPR, 3-9.

Any Detroit wide receiver? St. Brown would be the best one. He would be a six in PPR. Everybody else. Hawkinson. Eight. You're going to start him.

I'm going to call him a seven, but there's things about him that made me nervous this week. I like that. The targets were back up last week. Yeah. Okay. How about Goddard or Hawkinson? Goddard.

Oh, split. Split decision. Robert Woods against Detroit. Seven. Eight in PPR, six and none. Should know, everybody, that no team has seen fewer pass attempts than the Lions. Not even the four teams who had a bye last week.

That's okay. Stafford can throw four touchdowns on 25 pass attempts. He can. He's been great in blowout wins where he hasn't had to throw a lot. He's been the reason for the blowouts. He's been great. He's been great.

Sentence over. Tyler, yeah, it was less about Stafford. It was more about Robert Woods. You might get like five targets but Tyler Higby seven five in non PPR six

in PPR they tried to get him in the end zone last week three targets inside of 12 yards just couldn't connect couldn't let him roll into the end zone I bet I bet he's got a shot to score this week. Washington at Green Bay, Taylor Heineke. Like a

three. Zero. Antonio Gibson. Seven if he plays. And J.D. McKissick. Ten in PPR if there's no Gibson 7 in non

if Gibson does play I'd call him a 6 in PPR and a 4 in non PPR Ricky Seals Jones go ahead I'd say 5 in non-ppr six and ppr i'll go two notches higher i'll say seven and non-ppr and an eight and ppr so you like him the same as hockinson i do i think they're ranked very close to each other he's just playing all the time he gets a lot of targets from

heineke as ugly as they may be. Got to start tight ends like that. A.J. Dillon against Washington. Four. Yeah. Jamie, I'll give you the Texans. Dave, you can get the Cardinals. Mark Ingram at Arizona.

Zero. He has had 16 or more carries in four games. But, okay. Brandon Cooks. Nine. All right, Dave, you're up. James Conner against Houston.

Seven. Any format. Let's just pause on Conner here because great setup for him. And Edmonds, by the way, has 10 combined carries in his last two games. It might be a health thing for him because he's been dealing with this shoulder injury. So Connor's getting even more work. He's getting about one to two catches

each of his last four games too. So that gives you a little bit more, a little bit. But the replacement running backs versus James Connor. Dave, you can go first here. How many replacement running backs, waiver-wire running backs, would you start over Conner? I would start Darrell Williams over Conner. I would start Chuba Hubbard over Conner.

That is the end of the list. Jamie, agreed? Yeah, same. I started him over De'Aaron Johnson, which is going to look bad. But it's the perfect setup. I mean, they're 18.5-point favorites at home. So if there's an opportunity for garbage time and touchdown potential he's got it all right chase edmunds dave against houston he's going to be a notch below uh he's going to be a

six in ppr and like a five and non-ppr because he's not getting the work he's not getting crazy catches he's not working at the red zone. It's a terrible game script for him. I don't feel very good about Chase Edmonds this week. An Arizona wide receiver not named DeAndre Hopkins against Houston. A.J. Green is like a six. Kirk's a five. Rondell Moore is like a two and a half.

Are we throwing Zach Ertz in there as well? That's my next one, Ertz. Ertz is a six. DeAndre Hopkins is a five billion. Okay. Five billion for DeAndre Hopkins. Let's go to the games. Chicago at Tampa Bay. Stat of

the game. Ybor City, which is in downtown Tampa, is known as one of the most haunted places in the world, according to Top10Travelvelist.com. Ybor City. I just love it. I love Halloween.

What were we watching last night? Two nights ago, we were watching House of Wax. You ever see that with Paris Hilton? No. Wow. It's actually not as bad as I remember. You watch it with the kids? No.

And then what was last night? What the hell? Oh, the Omen. The original The Omen. Good movie. Okay. So let's go to the game here. Are you dressing up your kids for Halloween?

Obviously, you will with little Andrew. But Emma, too? Emma's going to be a cabbage patch kid. Okay. Which one? I don't know. And you're going to let... Obviously, you'll let andrew go

trick-or-treating yeah they'll go trick-or-treating i'm devastated that it's on sunday i really would love to be part of it um yeah they'll go trick-or-treating and and you'll get the candy at the end of the day andrew's gonna be a superhero we're so we're so ashamed he's he wants to be robin why are you saying because he's the worst superhero he's the way he's not even a superhero he's a sidekick he doesn't have any power you haven't you haven't seen teen titans go because robin's yeah exactly he's i've seen that i'd never see that yeah he's like featured in it it's like the one show you guys bring up and i told you my my son his his name is ronan so he uh he went as robin, but we said it was Super Ronan.

That little R. That's good. He went as Robin. Do you still have the costume? Yeah, you want it? We got one. My son's going as an egg delivery man. It sounds like such a unique costume. I'm so excited. He's like, Dad, can you give me two dozen eggs on Halloween

and some toilet paper? That's fine. I don't know what the toilet paper's for that's a little strange but sure so i'm impressed that my son 17 years old gonna go out and halloween he says he's donating all this candy he even said dad i'm probably not even gonna bring any candy home i said that's great that means no cavities that's a really good bit i like that okay uh chicago's defense they're 10th and points allowed i think they're eighth and points per game 12th and yards per play not getting a lot of pressure on the quarterback what they've been great at is in the red zone i think i mentioned this last week against the packers third best

red zone defense so it might come down to that for the buccaneers how do they do when they get in the red zone um we'll start though with the bears i'm not sure if they still lead the lead i think they lead the league in sacks, Adam. Who? They might have a low pressure rate, but the Chicago Bears defense. Really? Because they do have the sixth lowest pressure rate,

according to Pro Football Reference. I know. I heard you say that, which made me do a double take. I can look it up real quick. Last week, they were in the lead in sacks in the NFL. They might be top three. Really? Okay.

I will look it up just for you. Thank you. So, Justin it up just for you. Thank you. So Justin Fields, we're sitting. And then, Jamie, just sum up your thoughts on the Bears running backs here. And I think people have the Miles Gaskin game in their head, but it's actually five running backs have at least four catches. Four running backs have at least five catches against the Bucs.

So there's that PPR possibility. What do you think? If he's involved in the passing game, he'll be fine. And, you know, more so than he was last week. You know, I know he had three targets, two catches, and that was good to see. If they're in the game early, then, you know, or I shouldn't say anything. If they're in the game, you know, through the first

half, he'll have an opportunity to get work. Like Dave said, I don't think they're changing their offense. They are who they are. And so, you know, he'll get probably in the neighborhood of 15 total touches um even in a bad game script but if he doesn't score and he's not you know getting close to five catches it's probably going to be a bad game for him so that's the concern the la rams came into this week with 18 sacks the vikings came into the this week and they're not playing

this week with 21 sacks tied for first with the chic, with 21 sacks. Tied for first with the Chicago Bears. 21 sacks. They lead the NFL. Lowest pressure rates this year, according to Pro Football Reference. Colts, Giants, Texans, Falcons, Patriots, Bears. It's so interesting. They're getting to the quarterback.

Yeah, I'm seeing a different number than what you're seeing. I'm seeing a pressure rate where they're 12th in the league which is still low compared to where you would expect a team that leads the nfl you're looking on true media yes yeah i think i should probably use true media just to get who's number one who's got the highest pressure rate on true well they've got the browns there but they've played an extra game well they also had the game against the bears where they just annihilated them. They were pressuring

quite a bit in that game. Yeah, because Pro Football Reference has the Browns with the second highest, but that was before last night. It's not updated. And the Vikings, number one. You know who's the lowest? Colts? Giants? Colts are second lowest. Giants are fourth lowest.

The lowest. Do the Dirty Bird. The Falcons. Yeah. Falcons. Lowest pressure rate in football. Great news for Tua Tungavailoa. All right.

Sorry. That's back on track here. So we've talked enough about Khalil Herbert. Any Bears wide receivers to start? You're not starting Robinson with any confidence. Mooney is a boom-bust flex who is coming off a game where he scored a touchdown. So there could be some letdown potential. But we'll see.

How does Cole Komet measure up among the tight end dung? I mean, if you're stuck, he's not awful. Just if you get what you got last week. It wasn't an insult to Cole Komet. It's an insult to the position. It's an insult to dung. It's an insult to Dung. I think he's getting a little bit more involved in the passing game,

and there have been some suggestions out of Chicago this week that they should start utilizing more tight ends. If there was ever a game to start using more tight ends, this would be it because of that big D line for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

Nine targets in his last two games. That's good. So Fields is finding him. Yeah. Okay. And Tom Brady is top six. Any concerns about the Bears? They're pretty solid against quarterbacks.

And maybe this is a lopsided win. I don't know. Jamie, any concerns about starting Brady? I mean, I guess if you drafted Brady and Stafford. You'd start Stafford? That's about it. if you drafted Brady and Stafford. You'd start Stafford? That's about it. Yeah, I would start Stafford. Me too.

All right. Brady's actually been great in two blowout wins. Those have been his best games. 39 points against Atlanta, 47 against the Dolphins. That's the thing. I mean, they blew out the Dolphins. He threw 41 times. They don't just take their foot off the gas.

Leonard Fournette has become a must-start. Three or more catches in every game. Would you start Darryl Williams, Chuba Hub the gas. Leonard Fournette has become a must-start. Three or more catches in every game. Would you start Darrell Williams, Chuba Hubbard, or Leonard Fournette? Fournette. Fournette. All right. Tampa Bay wide receivers. Jamie, the breakdown.

Brown plays, I guess, assuming he practices in full today. He's still my favorite. If he doesn't practice in full, then I probably would reconsider it a little bit just because how healthy is he. But right now it's Brown, Godwin, Evans, and PPR Brown, Evans, Godwin, and non PPR. Brown's your favorite, huh? Is your favorite rest of season for now? I mean, you know, you just look at what the body of work has been for him. He's, he's had the, you know,

the most production. So it's hard to go away from what, what He's had the most production, so it's hard to go away from what he's been. The other guys have disappeared. Teams are trying to, whenever they're trying to take away somebody, they take away Evans. Right. Yeah, Dave, when you look at Evans and when he has struggled, and I'm sure everybody's going to start these guys because six teams on by,

he struggled against Trayvon Diggs. He struggled against Darius Slay. And he was solid, I think, 7 for 75 against JC Jackson and the Patriots. Do the Bears have that kind of player? They've got Jalen Johnson. He's their best outside corner. I can't say that he shadows anybody.

I haven't done the dig on that to see. And even if he has, I'm not sure the Bears would say, all right, stick on Evans. They might have him stick on Antonio Brown, the way that Brown's been playing. So Tom Brady's got the best trio of receivers in football, and it's a pick-your-poison thing for Chicago's defense. They've got to hope that their pressure rate goes up

so they can keep up with the Saks. That's the only way they can stay competitive is to put pressure on Brady. Johnson's having an amazing season, by the way he is, but I just, I don't know if he's shadowing anybody. Right?

No, I don't know what you said. Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm, yeah, I'm sure Mike,

take a look real quick. See what I can learn. Yeah. If you want Mike Evans, star percentage will probably be way up there on the nineties and Godwin though. Godwin does that not have 74 yards or fewer in five straight games.

Only one game in his last five, Jamie, with more than seven targets. So is Godwin still a must start? Yes. All right. Unless you're loaded at receiver. What if you have a running? But what if you have Darrell Williams? I'd go Williams.

Oh, it's two receiver league and a flex? Sure. Yeah, I mean mean you'll get away from godwin and half ppr and non-ppr i just at some point he's gonna have his game right and if brown is banged up you know missing practice time matters to certain players you know and so uh brady's working on some things with godwin maybe that he wouldn't normally work on if brown is there so i'm just speculating, but that's how things go typically with a team. You just don't want to

miss the 120-yard touchdown game from Godwin. So much upside. Again, six teams on a bye. Like you said, everybody's going to start Evans. Everybody's going to start Godwin. You've got to have, like you said, a loaded roster, certain circumstances to be sitting him. I don't think most people have that.

OJ Howard. There's only been two games this year where jalen johnson has been has moved away from being just a right cornerback he was against cleveland in week three he played outside cornerback and you know more to the right side than the left side and then last week against green bay he was outside on both spots about half the time. I don't know if that means he shadowed Devontae Adams. It definitely means he didn't go into the slot with him very much. He lined up in the slot five times. There's a chance that last week he did shadow. I just can't say it's 100% sure. For the most part, he's played one side of the field. Adams had four catches for 89 yards on five targets. So I wonder if that had anything to do with it.

That's pretty interesting. Okay. OJ Howard is only 9% rostered. If Gronk is out, which is what we expect, where is Howard going to end up in your rankings? Just outside the top 12, but it would certainly be worth looking. More so if Brown is out, because I don't

want to chase last week's numbers, but it's not bad. I mean, the Bears have been last week's numbers, but it's not bad. I mean, the Bears have been good against tight ends, but it's not like they faced a lot of great ones. No, but 42 yards to Hawkinson, 45 yards to Waller. Both of them had eight targets. Waller

had some missed production, though. Some big plays that just missed on, but Higby had a big game and Austin Hooper scored. All right. Tampa Bay's DSD. It looks like you did follow Beckham and Adams. Interesting.

Interesting. Oh, maybe you will follow Mike Evans this week. All right. Maybe that's a DFS thing to know. New Orleans at Seattle. Trivia question. Who leads the saints in receiving yards?

Who leads the saints in receiving yards? Who leads the Saints in receiving yards? Jamie says Deontay Harris. I'll say Callaway. It is Deontay Harris. There you go. That leads us to our stat of the game. A wide receiver has scored 18 or more PPR fantasy points against Seattle in every game.

That would be Pascal, Julio, Jefferson, Debo, Robert Woods, Deontay Johnson. Four of them had 118 or more yards. Now, there's a lot of elite receivers there, but do you have any interest? It would probably be Callaway. Any interest in Callaway this week? I saw Dave dropped him in a league, and I'm thinking, hmm, maybe I should pick him up. Marquez Callaway, what do you think, Dave? I think he's an option. Traquan Smith sounds like he's trending on coming back too. So that would get him on the field and that would give Jameis another target.

You can't feel good about starting any Saints wide receiver because they've been just so up and down. Calloway is in that same range that I would put Darnell Mooney in. A boom-bust type of flex. I think the nice thing for Calloway is the last game they played, Jameis threw 30 times, which was a season high. You have Taysom Hill maybe not playing, so could be a few more attempts for Jameis as well. And Callaway, I know he had the 49-yard Hail Mary, but he had eight targets in that game. And so that's the encouraging thing is that the 30 attempts and the eight targets.

And so if there's an opportunity for him, give him the matchup if the attempts are up. Could be a good spot for Marcus Callaway, but like Dave said, it's hard to trust him. Traquan's interesting too. I think when you get to the showdown slate for Monday night, both those guys are certainly in play if Traquan's active. That's another beat the waiver wire guy. If Michael Thomas is going to continue to be out and they're trusting Jameis more, Traquan Smith and Jameis had a pretty good connection in the preseason.

I'm surprised at where Jameis Winston is ranked this week. 12th for Jamie, 15th for Dave, 12th for Heath. And because, you know, how much of it does depend on Taysom Hill? When he's played, when he's been healthy, Jameis hasn't thrown more than 23 times in a game, and he goes up to 30 in Week 5 when Hill got hurt. So maybe that's a big factor here. But, Jamie, why did you put Jameis Winston 12th?

Well, it's the quarterbacks on a bye. It's the matchup against Seattle. They're fourth in passing yards allowed to opposing quarterbacks. So there's a great spot here for Jameis to not necessarily have to need volume to still be successful and have some of these big plays, whether it's Harris, whether it's Smith, whether it's Callaway. But yeah, if Taysom Hill doesn't play,

and that's how we usually approach it, if the guy's out or has missed time, we factor that in. But it's just a good spot for Jameis. So hopefully coming off a bye, they add some new wrinkles. It seems as if Sean Payne's getting more confidence in him. And so I think he could have some success. You know,

it's, it's, it's really comparing him to, um, Garoppolo and Bridgewater last night and Wentz and, and those guys, Darnold. Uh,

and I just think he's ahead of them based on the opportunity he has against the team he's facing. Yeah. One difference here. Jamie has Winston ahead of Joe Burrow. Dave has Burrow well ahead of Winston. So that would be something maybe we'll debate on HQ or something. Start Kamara.

And we talked about the wide receivers, and I'm assuming no interest in a tight end for the Saints, right? The only thing I can think of is that the Saints went into their bye week and they looked at the film and they said, Jawan Johnson's been okay. We haven't given him enough work. Let's give him more work. They could very easily say the same thing about Adam Troutman. Not that

I'm starting either guy, but in a couple of my deeper leagues, I've stashed Jawan Johnson just in case he comes out playing more this week. One of our viewers says, Michael Thomas is a waste of a roster spot. No. Are you sure that's who he's talking about?

I know he spelled it wrong, but yeah, I'm pretty sure that's who he's talking about. McGeal.Tobbis is a waste of a roster spot. No, no. I mean, just be patient. Hopefully he'll be back. Maybe there's a chance he's back next week, but if not, hopefully two weeks.

On the other side of the ball... What I was worried about when we talked about drafting him is that we don't know when he's coming back and what kind of a receiver is he going to be with Jameis when he does come back. All right, on the other side of the ball, we're sitting Geno Smith. We've talked a lot about Alex Collins. If Collins plays, he will be what in your rankings? Number two fantasy running back.

Yeah, low end number two flex. And then Metcalf and Lockett. All right. Dave, how much confidence do you have in these guys? Geno Smith's air yards last week per pass attempt, he averaged, I think it was like 3.3 yards per attempt. That's what he averaged, his air yards per attempt, 3.3. So he was 8.8 when he came in against the Rams.

Yeah. But that's got to be better. So what do you think about Metcalf and Lockett? The big difference is that he was playing against a Steelers team that was pressuring him like crazy, and he melted like a hot Halloween house of wax. So I think that we could end up seeing Gino Smith do a little bit better this week against the saints.

New Orleans ranks poorly in pass rush pressure rate. They're ranked low in sacks. They're toward the bottom of the league in sacks. They are dead last in time to pressure the quarterback at 2.73 seconds. So I'm assuming that Gino Smith's going to have some time to throw in this game. And I think that really helps Lockett a lot because Marshawn Lattimore seems like a perfect fit to match up against DK. We've seen Lattimore matching up lately, and that means whoever is lining up against Lockett doesn't have the type of speed or game that's going to shut him down.

And they were taking some shots to Lockett last week. They were trying. A couple of them got tipped at the line of scrimmage. A couple of them were off target. It is Geno Smith. It's still not great, but I've got enough confidence to start Lockett as a low-end number two receiver this week. Yeah, not me. I think you're going to see the Saints defense get back to looking like what we thought the Saints defense would at the beginning of the season. Marcus Davenport was back to practice, so that'll help their pressure. Geno might get benched in this game.

You're hearing Cam Newton's name being floated out there. If he struggles again, he had five sacks in that game, and part of that was on him just holding the ball too long. I wouldn't be surprised if this game gets sideways for him and this defense becomes a problem for this offense.

I don't want to trust either Seattle receiver, to be honest with you. And, you know, the Saints have held Devontae Adams to 56 yards, Terry McLaurin 46 yards. Not to say DJ Moore

had a big game against them, but obviously we know Lattimore is a good cornerback. So it's interesting. Yeah, Lockett could certainly make a play or two. And again, we're six teams on a bye. It's hard to get away from guys like this. Like I'm stuck.

I'm starting Lockett in the league, but I just don't feel any confidence in either one. Would you start James Conner over one of these guys? Yes. In full PPR? Not Metcalf in PPR, but over Lockett, yes. I got Lockett ahead of Conner. Full PPR.

Okay. How about like jamison crowder or these guys oh i'm taking these guys over crowder uh it's close with lock-in and ppr but yeah i'd still start them and how about jacoby myers i'm starting the seahawks okay sit the seattle tight ends and saints DST is top seven. Start them up. Game of the week when we come back. What is it?

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And let me see what the Panthers are. They're top four, I think. They are fourth. Yes, they have the fourth highest pressure rate in the NFL. So this game could certainly be decided at the line of scrimmage. Stat of the game number two. Four running backs have scored 20 or more PPR fantasy points against the Giants.

And additionally, Cordero Patterson scored 16, and Alvin Kamara only scored 12, but he rushed for 120 yards. Terrible run defense, and that's why these guys have faith in Chuba Hubbard. Jamie, Chuba Hubbard or DK Metcalf PPR? Hubbard. Dave? Letuba Hubbard or DK Metcalf PPR? Hubbard. Dave? Let me see what I have ranked. I've got Metcalf ahead of Hubbard.

Okay. But Hubbard is a start this week for sure. How about Sam Darnold and Robbie Anderson? All right. I know they've been struggling, but it's just, this is such a good matchup, it seems. Do you start them, Jamie?

Darnold and Anderson? I don't mind Darnold if you're stuck at quarterback. I think he's in that Jameis, Garoppolo, Wentz range. I actually like Darnold better than Burrow. I think there's a higher ceiling for him. Robbie Anderson, it's a dart throw.

You got to hope that they connect for a touchdown. But the matchup's fantastic. So he's got a chance if the targets stay up. And the targets have been up for him since McCaffrey's gone down. So it's just, you know, hopefully they connect. But there's a stadium where they connected. Yeah. Do you know where Terrace Marshall is on the injury report?

I'm trying to look it up. He's not practicing. So that's going to save Robbie Anderson from losing playing time. Because they could very easily move to Marshall and put Robbie in a smaller role if they're unhappy with what they're getting out of Robbie. But if Marshall isn't playing, their hands are tied. Robbie will continue to play.

He'll continue to get targets. But they talked this week. Matt Rule specifically said we need to get back to running the ball more. So I'm worried about what that means for Sam Darnold. Obviously, it's a great matchup for him because he won't get pressured as much. Maybe he runs the ball more. Yeah. I mean, that might end up happening.

So good matchup for Darnold. I agree with Jamie. He's right in that range with Jameis. I'd rather start Jameis. And Robbie is, you know what you do? If you're in a DFS tournament, build a lineup around Donald and Robbie and put DJ Moore in there too.

Yeah. That's going to be a stack that'll be quiet this week. Not a lot of people try that. I mean, I can't sit here and tell you to start Tommy Trumbull, but this is the Giants are so bad against tight ends, so he's in the dung category. He's below the dung, but he's

got a chance to be pretty good someday. Daniel Jones is, I think, 18th for both of you. It's a bad setup for him. I mean, left tackles out, receivers are hurt, and then you've got Devontae Booker. Would you rather start Devontae Booker or Robbie Anderson? Booker.

Booker. Devontae Booker or Tyler Lockett? Lockett. Booker and non-PPR. Okay, Lockett and PPR. Giants wide receivers. So is Sterling Shepard total must start if he's healthy? Yes.

Yes. If he's not healthy, how much would you trust Darius Slayton? Not much. Not much. Aren't you going to ask Shepard or Lockett since we're comparing everybody to Tyler Lockett? Shepard or Lockett, Shepard or Metcalf? Shepard over both for me. I've got Shepard close enough to Metcalf where I wouldn't hate you if you did it. Okay, so definitely overlock it then.

Yes. Okay. Yeah, the good wide receivers have done pretty well against Carolina. What are they? They're 11th against wide receivers. You've got to wonder if Gilmore plays. Oh, yeah, that's right. He is potentially going to play in this game. Gilmore plays. Oh, yeah, that's right. He's been practicing.

He is potentially going to play in this game. Would that make a big difference to you on Sterling Shepard? Not for Shepard so much. I don't think Gilmore will go inside with him. But, you know, if you are desperate for play. They play outdoors, Jamie. Huh? They play outdoors. They do.

They do. I don't think he'll go in the slot with them, though. Oh, okay. Evan Ingram is... I'll stick him on Dante Pett with them, though. Oh, okay. Evan Ingram is... I'll stick him on Dante Pettis and Colin Johnson. Right, right. Evan Ingram... Yeah, just to ask, is Dante Pettis a sleeper?

No, I don't know. A shepherd's owl? The new Dante Pettis or the old Dante Pettis? I forgot. Wait, who is the new Dante Pettis? Brandon Ayuk is the new Dante Pettis. Oh, that's right. That's right.

No, I'm not talking about Dante Pettis anymore. Evan Ingram is in the top 17. He has a pulse. Does he? He's hurt. Oh, that's right. He didn't practice. That's right.

Downgrade in the midweek stuff is not good. I think you're too high on Daniel Jones at 18. But, yeah, who's behind him? Taylor Heineke, Mac Jones, Geno Smith. Maybe not. Carolina's DST is a start. Start him up. Detroit is at the Rams.

I gave this stat of the game earlier, but the Lions have seen the fewest pass attempts in the NFL. So you're saying, oh, well, what if they just blow him out? What does that mean for Stafford? Well, he scored 30 points in a blowout win against the Bears, 33 points on 28 pass attempts in a blowout win against the Giants. He'll be fine. Yeah, all right.

So DeAndre Swift, you can't get away from him. He'll be Swifting this week. That's scoring all his points in the fourth quarter. It's called Swifting now. What else in this game? Want to spend a little more time on Robert Woods? Oh, Daryl Henderson, by the way, total stud, right?

Yes. Yeah. There was some cool footage of Cam Akers at practice. He was doing the ladder drill. He looked actually pretty quick, so hopefully he's not, he's not going to play this year, but the rehab is going well.

Yeah, that's great. Good. All right. There are some interesting players in this game. There's Hawkinson. There's Michel. There's Robert Woods. You love Sonny Michel this week. No.

No, but you could see the path to some garbage time production. Sonny Michel or A.J. Dillon? Dillon. Michel. Ooh. Sonny Michel or Chase Edmonds? Edmonds. Yeah, probably Edmonds is safer.

All right. Hawkinson, most people are going to start him. Dave, I think you said you'd start... Who'd you start? Goddard over him? I would start Dallas Goddard over him. I would have started Fant over him. I'm worried that that's the guy

that the Rams are going to try and take away on obvious passing downs. Okay. Just kind of obvious, right? He's their best tight end slash pass catcher. Yeah. Yeah. They haven't, but they don't shadow.

But that doesn't mean they can't, you know, double team. I'm sure they will a little bit. Robert Woods. Okay. So let's talk Robert Woods versus Chuba Hubbard. Chuba Hubbard. Robert Woods versus Devante Booker. Robert Woods.

Woods. Robert Woods or Geno Smith super flex? PPR. Oh, good question. Woods. I'll take Geno Smith super flex PPR? Oh, good question. Uh, Woods. I'll take Geno. They're my absolute favorite questions. They happen so infrequently,

but when we get the super flex wide receiver versus quarterback or whatever versus quarterback, they're my favorite. I just fear Geno getting pulled. Who's their backup? Jake Luton. I don't think he's getting pulled how about eli mitchell or robert woods uh mitchell for me woods for me okay and uh tyler higby dave you said you have him and hawkinson ranked very closely he's top 12 for everyone he have the, this is cool for Higby, by the way, six most red zone targets,

fourth most green zone inside the 10 targets in the NFL. And he almost scored last week, maybe twice, as I recall. Yeah, I said it earlier.

He had three targets inside the 12. Two of the catches were, like he was on the ground right by the end zone. So it was twice. Yeah. Very close.

It's like they were trying to get him in. You definitely want people in this game for what Stafford could do. I got Hawkinson one spot ahead of Higby. Both top 10 tight ends. Seals Jones behind them. Rams DST is number one. Anything else we get here?

Well, Munros St. Brown deserves a mention. He has 23 targets in his last three games. He's been running a little bit deeper routes, too. He's not just doing the short stuff anymore. And when Goff has time to throw, he's

looking for him on those longer routes. And when Goff doesn't have time to throw, which is what I think is going to happen this week, he'll get a bunch of dink and dunk passes. So in full PPR, I think he should be considered a flex. And I forgot Jamal Williams. I mean, we did this in the Stardome meter. But Jamal Williams or

Sonny Michel? Sonny. Sonny non-PPR, Michelle. Williams PPR. Jamal Williams, he has like 16 catches this year or something, and eight of them came in week one. What is the exact stat? Yeah.

No, that's right. Yeah. Wild. Fooled you! Let's go to the Washington football team at the Green Bay Packers. Taylor Heineke is basically 19th or 20th. He has struggled in his last two games. Packers have allowed multiple touchdown passes in four of six games.

They really haven't faced tough offenses yet. I don't know that this is one. Okay. Gibson versus McKissick. Dave, if Gibson plays, how much confidence do you have in, in him?

Enough to call him a number two fantasy running back. And if he plays, is nothing special. I think he's going to need a couple of long runs and a touchdown to come through. Is he the best running back for Washington if he plays? He'll be ranked the highest, but McKissick will be close behind him.

Totally expecting a blowout here where Washington's playing from behind. I would rank McKissick over Gibson in PPR this week. Because of the injury or the game script or what? Both. I mean, you know, you just have to fear him leaving the game. So McKissick had eight carries and eight catches last week. I

just want to point out, they lost by 22 at Buffalo and he had five touches, two catches. They lost by 11 against New Buffalo and he had five touches, two catches. They lost by 11 against New Orleans and he had three touches, one catch. And they trailed by 11 with 12 minutes and 12 seconds to go in the fourth quarter. You would think

he'd have more than one catch in a game like that. So, again, this is not me disagreeing, but I do need to bring it up because these pass-catching running backs can be very unreliable on a week-to-week basis and it's not like last week was the first good game script. Almost every week has been a good game script for McKissick. And he's turned in three good games with five or more catches.

And he's turned in three terrible games with zero to two catches. I don't know if there's a correlation also, but Heineke didn't run last week. And McKissick's pass receptions were up. Yeah. I don't know. You also have now. I'm trying to figure out. Give me the games you said again.

The bad ones? Yeah. Lost by four in week one, and had one touch against the Chargers. Okay, so Samuel didn't play in that game. Lost by 22 at Buffalo, had two catches. Samuel, I don't think, played in that game. Lost by 11 against New Orleans, had one catch.

I think Samuel did play in that game. Yeah, I don't think played in that game. Lost by 11 against New Orleans had one catch. I think Samuel did play in that game. Yeah, I don't know. Is he really? Well, I mean, you're just taking a pass catcher off the field, but last week they were down. Samuel Barrow. No Logan Thomas, no Curtis Samuel. Diami Brown got hurt in that game. I'm going to guess Ricky Seals Jones probably got hurt in the game because where else did he get injured?

So, you know, how many guys were they down that McKissick needed to be more involved in the passing game? Yeah, I don't know if it's just because of the week or because of what he did last week and everybody's expecting them to get blown out. I don't, you know, I just think that it's a little unpredictable with JD McKissick, but I... Oh, of course.

Yeah. But at least, you know, if you're just looking at it, three of his last five, he's been 16 or more PPR points. So, you know, if you're just going based on track record, now every other game, so the roller coaster could continue. But just Gibson banged up, chasing points most likely. It's hard to say that there's not a reason to buy into it. There's one other thing.

Green Bay plays a ton of zone coverage defense. They've done it consistently all year. That usually helps quarterbacks check down more often, especially guys who know that they've been so inconsistent like Heineke. He'll take the safer route. He'll check it down

to McKissick when they're down. I think there's a good chance for McKissick to get five-plus catches. Okay. Start Terry McLaurin, right? Yep. Fire him up. And then Ricky Seals-Jones or Tyler Higbee?

I've got Higbee a notch ahead of Seals-Jones. Same. Ricky Seals-Jones or O.J. Howard? R.S.J. Baby Seals Jones. Same. Ricky Seals Jones or OJ Howard? All right, Jay. Baby Seals. Aaron Rodgers top six. Dave has him second. He's been very, very solid this year after week one.

And Aaron Jones is the man. And AJ Dillon, is he a top 30 running back this week? Borderline. Okay. Unfortunately, the catch has disappeared last week. He had four in week five andline. Okay. Unfortunately, the catch has disappeared last week. He had four in week five

and none last week. All right. Washington does have a good run defense, but Packers will probably be able to run on them. Would you start any Packers wide receiver

other than Devontae Adams? No. I'm forced to start Lazard in the fishbowl. How are we doing in the fishbowl? Dave, you still top 100? I'm top 200. Lost last week.

Jamie, how are you doing? I mean, my team lost Akers and Dobbins before the season started. I'll tell battle ever since, but three and three. Okay. Sit Robert Tunyon. Robert Tunyon has 10 or fewer yards in five of six games. That is incredible.

He's due. 11 yards this week. Green Bay's DST is a start. Houston at Arizona, our last game. This might be my favorite stat of the game, of all the games.

James Conner. He has had four games. There have been four games that the Cardinals have won by double digits. In those four games, he has 16, 11, 18, and 16 carries. And the game that he had 11 carries, if you all remember the Jacksonville game, they did win by 12. But it was a pretty close game, actually. It was a seven-point game midway through the fourth quarter,

and then he scored a touchdown to make it a two-score game. But that is 16 or more carries for James Conner in three of four games that the Cardinals have won by double digits. Combine that with the Edmonds situation where he has 10 carries in his last two games. Combine that with what Jamie said, 18.5-point favorites here. Combine that with the fact that the Texans give up like 5.5 yards per

carry to running backs. Not quite that high, but it's over 5. Oh my gosh. Why isn't he the start of the week, Jamie? He was in consideration. He's my favorite running back in this game. More so than Edmonds. Even in PPR. I just think you look at what the upside is for

Connor. It's just a lot to like. So for people that are struggling with bi-weeks and injuries, not that he was available on the waiver wire, but this would have been a good guy to trade for cheap. And maybe you still can, because he's probably in a lot of people's benches. We talked about that during our live show. We mentioned that Connor could be that guy. Unfortunately, he's averaging 3.4 yards per carry and doesn't have a carry longer than 16 yards this year. He's not playing great from the standpoint of this is a wow factor guy, but this is an opportunity guy.

Like you said, injury, game script, opponent, scenario. They should be sitting on a significant lead in the fourth quarter, and hopefully he gets those chances like we've seen. And I think for his yards per carry, you'd have to really do a breakdown of it, but he gets a lot of carries in a spot where you can't break off a long run, right? I mean, can't do that at the six-yard line, so it might be deceiving a little bit. All right, so he's a start, and Chase chase edmonds would you start chase edmonds i may have asked you this i'm sorry or let's say davante booker eli mitchell those running backs those guys i've got edmonds behind booker behind khalil herbert

behind alex collins ahead of eli mitchell ahead of sony mich, ahead of Eli Mitchell, ahead of Sonny Michel, ahead of Devontae Freeman. The only one I would start over there is Collins and PPR, but non-PPR, I'd start Collins. It's really tough to... A guy like Eli Mitchell, who might not have a catch, versus Edmonds, who will have at least three,

maybe five or six. Hope he gets back into the swing of things. Now you're adding another amount of speed in the passing too. Yeah. Yes. That's really important to talk about is the impact that Ertz is going to have. Theoretically, he's there to take the middle of the field and help stretch defenses that way

instead of just them playing over by the perimeter. I think that that could lead to some target drain for Edmonds. Edmonds has two games this year with five-plus catches. My guess is that it stays at two games this year with five-plus catches. They'll have four or fewer on Sunday. How did Edmonds do, Adam, if you have it in front of you, in the games where Max Williams went crazy? I've got it.

If he doesn't. Go ahead. I'll give you another stat. Max Williams, week two against Minnesota, had seven catches. Week four against L.A. had five catches. Week four against LA, had five catches. Against the Vikings, he had five catches. Edmonds had five catches for 29 yards. And against

what was the other team, LA, I said? Yeah. LA. For him, four catches, 19 yards. So a terrible receiving average in those games. One with four grabs, one with five grabs. Disappointing. Also, teams don't throw on the Texans because they don't have

to. They've seen, I think, the fourth fewest pass attempts. Yeah, fourth fewest pass attempts per game in the NFL. So it's all working against Chase Evans and he's going to have a huge game. And it's also working against the passing game in general, not Kyler Murray. You start Kyler Murray and you start DeAndre Hopkins.

This is the ultimate revenge game. Yeah. That dude did not want to be a part of the Houston Texans. Guarantee you, he's had this game circled for two years. And, okay.

And Zach Ertz is top 12 for you guys. We actually debated him yesterday in the ranking disputes. Heath has him closer to 20. But, look, there's got to be some concern with Ertz, right? First week with the team, and we just talked about all the target distribution and low

pass volume. But I guess can you justify anyone behind him? Is OJ Howard behind Zach Ertz? He is for me. I just think, you know, this is feature new toy and matchup that's favorable at home. So I don't think he's going to have an 8 for 80 in a touchdown type of game,

but I think he can get you what he got you last week, 4 for 30 in a touchdown. And yeah, the Texans give up the most fantasy points to tight ends. Right, they've given up four touchdowns to the position in the last three weeks. Brandon Cooks is a must start, right? Yes. Cool. And that's it. Yeah, I want to correct something I said earlier

when we talked about the Bucs. I mentioned Scott Miller. I didn't realize he was on IR, so I apologize. Yeah. Tyler Johnson is that guy who could step up. Should probably drop Scotty Miller then. I'm going to do that. Thanks for watching and listening, everybody.

Good luck this week. Come join us on HQ. We're live at noon Eastern, and then Sunday, 10 a.m. Eastern. And Sunday, also live stream here on YouTube. YouTube.com slash Fantasy Football today at 11.30 a.m. Eastern. Just answering questions

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