Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC)! Sit Cousins? Sit Evans? And RB Replacement Options (10/11 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 11, 2024

We've got seven games to preview, but first let's look back at the 49ers-Seahawks (3:50) as Brandon Aiyuk was a dud, Jordan Mason got injured and Ken Walker ran 30 routes for the third straight game! ...Then we'll take a look at 10 backfields (10:00) that are dealing with at least one injury. Who can you trust on the Colts? Patriots? Texans? Bengals? Giants? Bucs? And there are more! ... News and notes (19:05), One Question for Each Game (23:30), thoughts on Bijan Robinson's future value (28:15) and our favorite QB/WR stacks (30:45) for Week 6 ... Start or Sit for Jaguars-Bears (32:30), Cardinals-Packers (42:00), Bucs-Saints (49:00), Lions-Cowboys (58:00), Falcons-Panthers (1:06:00), Bengals-Giants (1:12:35) and Texans-Patriots (1:17:30) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:18 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Fantasy Week 6 starts with a 36-24 win for the 49ers. And a reminder of the golden rule that all three 49ers pass catchers are not allowed to have a good game in the same week. We welcome you to Fantasy Football Today, presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. I'm Adam Azer with Dave Richard and Jamie Eisberg. And here are two of my favorite stats for week six.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Darnell Mooney has eight catches of 20 or more yards. Eight of them. That is tied for the NFL lead. Drake London has one. And Alvin Kamara has gone 46 straight games without a carry longer than 30 yards. He has gone 18 straight games without a 20-yard carry. Oh, my gosh, that is bad. I just hope Spencer Rattler doesn't sink Alvin Kamara.
Starting point is 00:02:12 Good morning, guys. Happy Friday. Dave Richard. Hey, what's going on? Hope you didn't have Brandon Ayuk going in too many of your leagues, Adam. I do not have Brandon Ayuk in a single league. Jamie, good morning. Happy Friday.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Humble bro. I do not have Brandon Ayukene single league. Jamie, good morning. Happy Friday. Humble bro. If Joe Mixon comes back and has a strong season, are the third round running backs the best value of any running backs that we have this year? So who's included in there? Walker would be in there who was good for non-PPR, but ridiculous for full PPR. Mixon can be good.
Starting point is 00:02:44 Who else is in there? Kamara. So I think it's more like fourth round running backs, isn't it? But, um, so the third, okay.
Starting point is 00:02:51 So starting with pick 25, H and Jacobs, Mixon, Rashad, white Camara, Ken Walker. Yeah. It's merely really more like the third round.
Starting point is 00:03:01 It's pretty good. That's really good. I don't know if Rashad White's going to hold up. That's the one. Hopefully Jacobs. They're not all going to be perfect. I thought James Cook might be in that range too. Cook was 21st in ADP, CBS ADP.
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yep. No, it was a great range. And they were going even later than that at the beginning of the process. All right, let's talk about San Francisco, 36, Seattle's 24. Before we do that, though, let me just tell you which games we're talking about today because I screwed up the games yesterday. So we are covering.
Starting point is 00:03:24 You sure you're good today? No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm like 40% confident. Jacksonville at Chicago. I meant to get to that one yesterday. Arizona at Green Bay. Tampa at New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Detroit at Dallas. Atlanta, Carolina. Cincinnati at the Giants. Giants are 1-14 in prim time since Daniel Jones became the starting quarterback. 1-14. Houston is at New England. That's the game I meant to get to yesterday. All right.
Starting point is 00:03:52 San Francisco 36, Seattle 24. You have five minutes to recap this game. Jordan Mason left with a shoulder injury. And you've got an 8% rostered Isaac Garendo and a report that Christian McCaffrey is targeting an early November return. Jamie, go. San Francisco, Seattle. Yeah, I was reading the NFL.com story on the 49ers this morning that Kyle Shanahan said he was a little concerned about putting Mason back in, that he thought it might just be an adrenaline thing that was allowing him to not feel as in pain, you know, in pain as he was. So that's clearly something to monitor, you know, hopefully Mason will be okay. Otherwise everybody's running
Starting point is 00:04:30 to, I think they're going to run to the way for any way to pick up Grendo. But, um, the, the, the concern was at least watching that if he didn't break off that run at the end, would it be Patrick Taylor? You know, because they were leaning on Taylor a lot in the fourth quarter. Um, it was nice that they went tondo in the moment that they needed to kill the clock and he came through. So I just hope that people aren't going to chase the one big run thinking that it's definitely Garendo because we could see a split backfield here with Debo Samuel mixing in also against the Chiefs run defense that's obviously very good.
Starting point is 00:04:59 So just something to keep an eye on there. But in any event, you said it. You know, it's the 49ers. You kind of know what you're getting. Two of the guys are going to do well. One guy any event, you said it. It's the 49ers. You kind of know what you're getting. Two of the guys are going to do well. One guy is going to be left out. It was, unfortunately, Ayuk. And then for Seattle, it was a rough start for Gino.
Starting point is 00:05:11 He closed much better with garbage time production, if you want to call it garbage time. But Metcalf is a good buy-low candidate right now. I think JSN is still a good buy-low candidate too. And they're somewhat similar to San Francisco. is a good by low candidate right now. Uh, I think JSN is still a good by low candidate too. And it's, they're, they're somewhat similar to San Francisco. You're going to get two guys probably doing well on a weekly basis. And one guy at this point.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Um, yeah, I think, you know, I would love to see a little bit more yardage at a JSN. He had 53 yards. Is that like the second most of his season? He's had one,
Starting point is 00:05:40 he's had one, a really good yardage game, a hundred yard game at new England, but he's almost like a little bit better version of Wanda Robinson. He's just a slot guy, not doing much. There was one throw that Gino made that I thought would have been a nice play for both of them. He had him in the honey hole between the corner and safety on the left side. JSN kind of felt the guy coming.
Starting point is 00:06:04 He alligator-armed it a little bit. I don of he felt the guy coming he he alligator armed a little bit um i don't blame him at all but he alligator armed a little bit and if if gino hits that pass it could have been a similar play to what happened with debo where the safety misses him and he goes yeah that's a couple at least two end zone targets dave what are your thoughts on this game i thought brandon iuk's game obviously the stats were terrible, but what I noticed was that Witherspoon was on him a decent amount, especially in the second half, and he covered him pretty well. It makes me a little bit nervous to think about other wide receivers moving forward where Witherspoon could be on them.
Starting point is 00:06:38 But I watched his snaps on long second downs and third downs. About a third of the time there was a safety over the top. There were a couple of times where he was open, including in the end zone. In the late first quarter, Purdy just didn't look his way. So it's pretty frustrating. On top of that, only four targets. I would say that you have another buy low opportunity on Ayuk. But I think he's going to be just kind of a boom or bust mega receiver, I guess is the best way to put it.
Starting point is 00:07:03 Because we're probably still going to start him even against Kansas City and especially against Kansas City. That would make sense. Given the matchup and given the question market running back for the 49ers, DK Metcalf got robbed. I don't I still don't necessarily understand the illegal shift penalty that was called. He didn't he didn't stop. He just kept for like a beat. Right. It's so stupid i agree with you like just don't call that illegal shift that's what i meant to say but here's the thing
Starting point is 00:07:34 like as long as geno smith is going to throw the ball 40 plus times and ken walker's going to run a bunch of routes you're going to feel great starting him no matter what ken walker by the way i said coming into the game, two straight games with 30 or more routes run. That was only the second and third time of his career. Well, you could make it three straight games. He hit that mark again, 30 on the nose, 30 routes. It was one of the easiest props to play yesterday was Walker over,
Starting point is 00:08:01 I think it was two and a half, two and a half or three and a catch. You're getting him plus money on it. It's like a staple now in their game where he's just catching these passes. It's huge. I know he didn't have a great rushing average, but it makes him feel like a first-round caliber kind of player. Yes, yes. Let me ask you one more thing here.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Go ahead, go ahead. Sell high on Debo Samuel, you think? Because this is three straight games with five or fewer targets. And again, downfield passing game, that's not really his thing. I'm wondering if this offense suits him at this point. And obviously he got, I don't want to say lucky because he makes those plays, but a little lucky with the 70-ish yard touchdown. Oh, he definitely got lucky. I mean, safety took a bad angle on it.
Starting point is 00:08:39 I do think as long as McCaffrey is out, you should feel pretty good about Debo because you know he's going to get those touches. And especially now, like his carries. Uh, I mean, what do you have last night? Five?
Starting point is 00:08:51 I think, uh, sorry. He had four carries, 15 yards. Those are going to start to come through a little bit more. All right. They,
Starting point is 00:08:59 they have to use them more there. All right. They're going to trust Garendo who was miserable until that long run late. And Patrick Taylor, Taylor played more snaps than Garendo, who was miserable until that long run late, and Patrick Taylor. Taylor played more snaps than Garendo, by the way, in the second half. All right, Tyler Lockett is 56% rostered. That's someone we can talk about on the waiver wire at Atlanta next week.
Starting point is 00:09:16 And that is Thursday Night Football. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. San Francisco 36, Seattle 24. All right, Sunday is a fun day for us, fun day for everybody. Get those lineups set. You need that last-minute advice. Well, we've got a game in London, so we are on at 9 a.m.
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Starting point is 00:10:08 Rick Spielman's back this week. Oh, excellent, excellent. Pretzels for everybody. All right. I got a segment here called Running Back Blues because we've got a lot of injuries in backfields. Unfortunately, we're doing our mailbag a little bit earlier today, 11 a.m. Eastern, so we won't have injury updates for most of these situations. But I'm just going to go one by one here. I'll give you a backfield that has an injury to keep an eye on. I hope I didn't forget any because I have like 10. And you tell me, you know, who you think the starter is going to be. And then on a scale of
Starting point is 00:10:39 one to 10 on the start-o-meter, how excited you are to start said running back? Jamie, Indianapolis at Tennessee. I'm expecting it to be Trey Sermon at this point, and he is a 5 on the start-o-meter. All right, hopefully he can catch some passes like he did last week, but it's looking like it's going to be Anthony Richardson who practiced in full instead of Flacco.
Starting point is 00:11:04 New England, Dave, New England. I'll give you that game because Ramondre's injured. He hasn't practiced yet. Mixon was limited. So New England and Houston, let's start with the... Both teams are struggling against the run, especially the Patriots. Go ahead. So I'm giving the name and then what after that?
Starting point is 00:11:21 Start-o-meter, 1-10. Okay, great. So Mixon is going to be like an 8 on the start-o-meter one to ten okay great so mixin is gonna be like an eight on the start-o-meter if he gets in multiple practices this week i think that that's a really good situation for him fresh legs good matchup etc uh don't i think it crushes a goomba walleye for the patriots if it's antonio gibson uh don't love it i'd say a five on the startometer. What if it's Ramondre? What if he plays? Like 7.1538.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Okay. And what if it's not? What if Mixon's out? Nobody? Ogunbowale is my favorite, but he'd be like a six. Okay, Jamie, let's go to the Bengals-Giants game. Don't forget Pierce is going to play too. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:12:04 That's why it's just a mess. Go to the Bengals-Giants game. Don't forget, Pierce is going to play too. Right, right. That's why it's just a mess. Go to the Bengals-Giants game. So the Bengals are really interesting. Zach Moss returned to limited practice, and Chase Brown was downgraded to limited practice, and then Devin Singletary seems to be trending in the right direction. So give me the running backs in this game. At this point, I'm going to expect both Bengals running backs to play. So I still like Brown the best. I'll say he is a now seven. He would have been
Starting point is 00:12:31 a nine if Moss was out and Moss is a six and a half. So it could still be a flex play based on what his role has been in the passing game. I think that continues for the giants. I agree with you. It sounds like Singletary is trying in the right direction. He also is now a seven. I think that continues. For the Giants, I agree with you. It sounds like Singletary is trying in the right direction. He also is now a seven. I think he's got the opportunity to be a number two running back. Good matchup, as we know, against the Bengals. And Tracy is now a pie, 3.14. I'm pretty nervous about starting Singletary. I just wonder if it's a full-blown split,
Starting point is 00:13:04 if it's like a Buccaneers-Jaguars kind of situation, which isn't good for anyone. I don't know where Dave or Heath have Singletary ranked. For me, he is like 21, 22. So behind what we were talking about yesterday, the Dobbins-Williams-Nagy group, and right now I have him ahead of Stevenson because I'm nervous about him playing at less than 100%. Sherman's Williams Najee group. And right now I have him ahead of single ahead of Stevenson, excuse me,
Starting point is 00:13:25 because I'm nervous about him playing at less than a hundred percent. But I would start him over sermon. I was starting more Rico Dowdle. I would start him over. I think like any other, I started over shot white, for example, who's the first one you said you start them over who I started him over
Starting point is 00:13:40 sermon. Oh, Rico Dowdle. Yeah. Sorry. I thought you said Sherman. No, Steven said Sherman, Sherman, Sherman, right? The. Yeah. Sorry, I thought you said Sherman. No. Steven said Sherman.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Sherman, Sherman, Sherman. Right? The Shermanator. That a professor? All right. I got you. Question here. Singletary or Dell?
Starting point is 00:13:56 Singletary for me. I think he's safer. All right. Tampa Bay running backs. As Rashad White, Dave, is banged up. They're at New Orleans. I'd be very happy if Bucky Irving ended up being the lead back there and would start him with the confidence of a seven on the startometer.
Starting point is 00:14:12 If Rashad White's okay, White's going to be the one that I'll lean toward, but he's going to be in that six range. Bucky will move to a five, maybe like a four and a half on the startometer if they both play. Okay, but it's startometer. Buffalo at the Jets, Jamie. James Cook has not practiced yet. They have the Monday night game, so maybe it's not too alarming.
Starting point is 00:14:31 But have you been moved? You don't have to give me the startometer or anything, but have you been moved to pick up Ray Davis or Ty Johnson? Not yet. You know, the fact that it, for whatever reason, I don't quite understand. I got to go back and look at this. They gave an injury report on Wednesday when they don't have to.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I was confused about that, too. Yeah. So the Thursday one is the one that you should be concerned about because I don't think he's technically mispracticed two straight days or two straight practices that matter from the injury report standpoint. If he misses on Friday, okay, now you should be concerned. Certainly, if he's not practicing on Saturday, then he's most likely going to be out.
Starting point is 00:15:03 But at this point, no. I think he'll be one of those guys that you run to the waiver wire to get. I would lean toward Davis over Johnson just because there's more upside there, but it'd be a mess. Can you imagine Buffalo without Khalil Shakir, without James Cook? Jets get the new coach bump.
Starting point is 00:15:20 It's... All right, let's go to the next one here. The Falcons falcons running backs anybody worried about bijan at this point i mean because of the injury no because of like what's been happening kind of we'll come back to that we'll come back to that i want to give you a time to talk about that um but let's just finish this segment here cleveland running backs at philadelphia um dave what do we what do we know right now where are we with the Dave, what do we know right now? Where are we with the Browns? What do we know?
Starting point is 00:15:49 Not much. I mean, Nick Chubb has been limited. It would be wonderful if he comes back and plays. If he does, the comments level would be at like a six for him because it's his first game because I don't think the Browns will run him into the ground in the first game. And then Ford would be a zero. Foreman would be a zero. If there is no Chubb, I'm not real excited about the Browns running backs. Ford would be a four. Foreman would be a two, which is like you're desperate for a running back who might score six points. And finally, Jamie, Brian Robinson has not been practicing.
Starting point is 00:16:24 So let's talk about the Washington running backs at Baltimore. Yeah, obviously something to keep an eye on today. We had the same situation last week where he didn't return to practice until Friday. So if Robinson plays,
Starting point is 00:16:34 he is a six on the start. Oh, meter,ometer, start thing. If he's out and Eckler in that situation would be a flex so he would be uh four if he is out eckler would be a six and jeremy mcnichols would be a five so eckler would be a borderline rb2 and mcnichols would be a flex you wouldn't have eckler's an rb2 and full ppr i don't know if he's going to get the full rushing numbers that Brian Robinson would get. I wonder if just McNichols slides into that role
Starting point is 00:17:11 and Eckler would get more just chances to touch the ball. But yes, he would be. Where I said Singletary would go, Stevenson would go right around 20. So are you saying that you would rather start Singletary than Brian Robinson if they both play? Right now, I have Singletary ranked ahead of Robinson, yes, because I'm concerned about the knee injury.
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Starting point is 00:18:47 You mean Aaron Rodgers is staying on as play caller? Okay. I mean, I don't know if there's a positive impact here. It's not like Todd Downing set the world on fire when he was a play caller before in Tennessee and some other places. Anthony Richardson practiced in full. Russell Wilson practiced in full, but I think still Justin Fields expected to start.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Wilson's 9% rostered. Dave, you're all in on Fields still, right? I moved him down. Okay. James Cook mispracticed. So the running backs, we kind of covered it. James Cook mispracticed. Zamir White still missing practice.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Travis Etienne was limited. Rashad White's got this foot injury. You didn't bring up the Jags running backs. Who? You didn't bring up the Jags running backs. I did just now. I mean, Etienne's going to play. He was limited.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Right? We're not really. But will he be limited? I think so. I think he might. I would agree or disagree. Bigsby will have more carries than Etienne. Agree.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I agree, but I think Etienne will have more touches. Okay, let's see. Jonathan Taylor still missing practice. Trey Sermon was able to practice, though, so it looks like, as Jamie said, it looks like he'll start. Audrick Estime is trending toward playing this week, so he's currently on IR. You could take a look at him and see what happens.
Starting point is 00:20:09 But Audrick Estime looks like he's going to play this week against the Chargers. That's Broncos rookie running back. Let's see. Jalen Warren still questionable. Ramondre, we know he's missing practice with a calf issue. Zach Moss limited. Chase Brown limited. I'm repeating a lot of stuff here.
Starting point is 00:20:24 So Gus Edwards, mispractice again. And I've said, we go back to the running back segment. Wide receivers. So according to The Athletic, the four teams that are interested in acquiring Devontae Adams
Starting point is 00:20:33 are the Jets, the Saints, the Bills, please, please, please, please, please, and the Steelers. No, no, no, no, no. Josh Downs, still missing practice
Starting point is 00:20:42 with a toe injury. Malik Nabors, improving but still in the concussion protocol. I think at this point right now on Friday morning, we've got to say probably no on Neighbors, right? Yep, leaning that way. Crazy. Hope he gets better soon. Arizona wide receiver Zay Jones is back from suspension.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Does this matter at all for people who might be starting Michael Wilson in a pinch? Not yet. Okay. Ricky Pearsall expected to practice this upcoming week. Khalil Shakir missing practice again. Christian Watson limited. Are you guys ranking Christian Watson yet? Not yet.
Starting point is 00:21:13 No, but I'm double-checking my waiver wire to make sure that he's on my bench if he's out there. Josh Reynolds missed practice for the Broncos. Jacoby Myers missing practice. Did he miss practice again? I think he did. I think this is one to watch,cos. Jacoby Myers missing. He mispracticed again. I think he did. I think this is one to watch, right? Jacoby Myers against Pittsburgh.
Starting point is 00:21:29 It's obviously one to watch. Sure. I mean, this is a guy that is intriguing to a lot of people. And as we talked about yesterday, he hasn't ranked 13th. Right. Taysom Hill missing practice again. Luke Musgrave could go on IR, by the way. Looks like he's going to end up on IR.
Starting point is 00:21:43 He's going to be out for a while. Pat Frymuth was limited. Mike Isiki upgraded to limited. Evan Ingram, limited. David Njoku, limited. I might get those guys back this week. Ingram and Njoku. Ingram looking like he will be back.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Njoku, too. Okay. Well, who would you rather have, Ingram or Njoku? Ingram. Ingram. And a big injury, Kayvon Thibodeau. Thibodeau. Yes, Thibodeau. Thibon. Yes, Thibodeau.
Starting point is 00:22:07 I always forget. Week to week, that's a big loss for the Giants. Edge for the Steelers. Edge rusher Alex Highsmith was limited, so that'd be great if he could come back. Bengals could be getting Sheldon Rankins back. He's missed three straight games defensive tackle for them. Micah Parsons doesn't seem like he's going to play.
Starting point is 00:22:22 And those two starting defensive backs for the Browns, Grant Delpit and Denzel Ward, they both missed practice again. Looks like the Bucs will get Kalijah Cansey back. This will be his first game of the season at New Orleans if he does, in fact, play. Chargers edge rusher Joey Bosa missed practice again. Time for one question. I always like how you get excited about the injury guys
Starting point is 00:22:43 for defensive players coming back. We don't want them back. Let them get healthy, get rest. Fair enough. One question for each team. That's great for the Steelers. Kajak Kansi is back, everybody. Alba Kamara's situation just went from bad to worse.
Starting point is 00:22:58 IDP, right? Jacksonville's at Chicago. Jacksonville's at Chicago. Start, sit, or drop Caleb Williams. Now you're stealing my game? Start, sit, drop. Now I'm just making fun of myself. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Start or sit Caleb Williams. I like him as a bi-week replacement quarterback. I do like a lot of quarterbacks this week, but I don't have him in my top 12. Okay. Daniel Jones or Caleb Williams? Jones. I have Jones, and Jones or Caleb Williams? Jones. I have Jones, and I've got Williams over Justin Fields.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Arizona's at Green Bay. Any sleeper? Like, it's easy to say start most of the guys in this game, Arizona at Green Bay, but any sleepers in this game? I think with the Dobbs qualify, you know, just in terms of who's going to be that second receiver or third option, you know, just in terms of who's going to be that second receiver or third option, you know, behind craft. It would be so 2024 fantasy football for Dontavian Wicks to have a big game after everybody started him last week and he had a dud.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Oh, I could see it. They left a lot of production on the field. He had one drop, two plays. Jordan Love missed him, I think, for a combined two catches, 45 yards. One of them was definitely on Love. One of them, I'm not sure if it was the route. But this is kind of what happens when you go downfield all the time is you're a boomer bust.
Starting point is 00:24:16 But he is super fast, and he still burns guys. He got seven targets. I mean, it's not like he wasn't involved. Led the team in targets. I'm starting him in those. I mention this from time to time, these analyst leagues that I'm in, 14 teams, triple flex. So, again, if you have a pulse, you're probably going to be a starter,
Starting point is 00:24:33 but happy to start him in that format. And I would view him as a biweekly receiver. That's Dontavian Wicks. Is he better than Romeo Dobbs? I would start him over Dobbs. I have Dobbs ranked higher just because I think this is a little bit of a squeaky wheel game for him.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Maybe, yeah. Tampa Bay at New Orleans. Start or sit Mike Evans? Start, but start with a little trepidation. You know, not a must, not a top 10 guy, but a top 24 receiver.
Starting point is 00:24:59 I'm 23rd. Okay, looking forward to talking about that one. Terrible history against Tampa, against New Orleans. That's who he plays talking about that one. Terrible history against Tampa, against, uh, New Orleans. That's who he plays for Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 00:25:08 Detroit. I mean, listen, you were three weeks ahead of this game. You were so excited. I know. Uh, Detroit at Dallas,
Starting point is 00:25:14 Jamison Williams or Jalen Tolbert. Jamison Williams has what? Five targets in his last two games or something like that. He definitely hasn't seen his targets drop. Uh, I would still start Williams over Tolbert, but they're very close. I'm taking Tolbert over Jamison, and I love Jamison,
Starting point is 00:25:28 but I think that Tolbert's the one that's going to see more targets in the game, certainly has an easier matchup in the game, and I think he's looked great for several weeks now. We've been talking him up. Both of them are number three receivers. All right, Atlanta at Carolina. Any interest in Xavier Liget or Liget, uh, who got injured last week, but he's good to go. It's a good stash candidate.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I don't think you want to start him this week, but the last time we saw him play a full game, he had 10 targets, six catches, 66 yards and a touchdown. So hopefully that's the role that he's going to play, or at least be that involved, But offensive line concerns for the Panthers right now. Andy Dalton has sort of turned into Andy Dalton again. And who knows if he is 100% healthy. I mean, not in the practice report, at least injury report as far as I saw. So hopefully that's good to go. He's in that same bucket as Dontavion Wicks for me.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Cincinnati's at the Giants. Bonanza? I mean, they don't need neighbors, so sure. I'm nervous about the Giants. I mean, but would you start Darius Slayton over Jamison Williams and Jalen Tolbert if Neighbors is out? I would, yes. I think I probably would, too. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:39 I just dropped Wicks in one league for Slayton just because of neighbors still being out. I think Slayton's got a higher ceiling. You've seen right now. I mean, the way Daniel Jones is leaning on two guys, and it doesn't really matter who the two guys are. We thought, okay, it's just neighbors, right? So Slayton comes in, and it's both. And what I loved about the way they used Slayton
Starting point is 00:27:00 is that he is pretty much just a deep threat when neighbors is on the field. But his average route depth was something like seven yards last week. His ADOT was very reasonable. He ran a lot of slants. He played like a true number one receiver and played very well. Houston at New England. Tank Dell
Starting point is 00:27:15 or more like Tank Sell? I would lean Tank Sell. Okay. I think he's an option in three-seer leagues. Yeah, he is. Yeah. If anyone's getting Christian Gonzalez, it's him. Because Diggs is going to be in the slot more.
Starting point is 00:27:35 Sure. We'll see. And if Mixon's back, they could run a lot. Maybe I shouldn't say that. He could step up against May. Maybe Diggs gets Gonzalez when he's outside, which will be about half the time. Alright, Dave, I want to give you I'm sorry to do this to you. I know you wrote a lot
Starting point is 00:27:50 or you have a lot of thoughts on Bijan Robinson. Can you give me your thoughts in 30 seconds? I think he should be considered a sell-high candidate, especially if he has a big game against Carolina. The scheme that they're running, and you might have read about this or heard
Starting point is 00:28:08 about it. I think they talked about it on Beyond the Box score. It's this outside zone running. He's good at it, but so is Algier, and I don't think they're going to get away from it, and I think they're embracing having two running backs. Anytime that there's going to be a game where they can run the ball a lot, and
Starting point is 00:28:24 you're going to see Bijan Robinson get 20 carries and do well with them against Carolina, you should do that. Then by all means, it's an opportunity to sell very high on him. I wouldn't trade him into peanuts, but I also think on top of him sharing, and I don't think the split is going away. I think the Falcons are going to embrace Kirk Cousins. I think they're going to continue to throw the ball a lot and they're throwing to both of these running backs out of the backfield. So I agree with most of that. The only thing I
Starting point is 00:28:48 would say is that the offensive line has been really beat up and hopefully when they get healthy, that's going to help everybody across the board. But I think the last thing you said is extremely relevant as Kirk Cousins gets healthier and they're allowed to do a few more things with this offense that I think they were a little hamstrung with in terms of moving the pocket a little bit, getting him on, on some, some moving him around just in general, that's going to allow things to open up for everybody. And you saw a little bit of that last week. I saw a lot of that last week, you know, with how, you know, all three receiving options were operating and that's just going to open up things in the run game too. So I think
Starting point is 00:29:21 Dave said it best. You're not giving Bijan Robinson away, but if you're concerned about this, then sure, try and trade him. But I think the best of Bijan is yet to come. All right. Yeah. Check out Dave's articles with some Jacob Gibbs stats in there, his article on Bijan Robinson. It's very informative and the run scheme is something we don't talk about too much, but it may not be working in his favor and they are running so much. Robert Turbin talked about this a little bit on Wednesday too. Like, you know, just the, about too much, but it may not be working in his favor and they are running so much of Robert Turbin talked about this a little bit on Wednesday too. Like, you know, just the, the way that they're using him is not the best for him. Like they're not allowing him to just be a playmaker. According to Robert, you know, he said that's something that needs to improve also. So, I mean,
Starting point is 00:29:58 look, you have a first time offense coordinator that, you know, things will continue to evolve as they get healthier, which is hard to say because the NFL, not everybody gets healthier. Most teams get more banged up, but he's been banged up. Line's been banged up. Cousins not 100%. If those things all come together, we could see a big season still for B. John. All right. And now it's time for the Hellman stack segment, where we discuss the quarterback and receiver duos to keep an eye on this upcoming weekend. Brought to you by Hellman's Real Mayonnaise. May your game face be as vicious as your buffalo chicken dip is delicious.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Dave Richard, give me two quarterback wide receiver stacks you like this week. I like Jordan Love with Jaden Reed. I think that that's a good opportunity for them to connect a little bit more against Arizona. I am still not impressed with this Cardinals defense. I think we will see Reed lead the Packers and targets and have another big game against the Arizona Cardinals. And H.A. Brown is back for the Philadelphia Eagles. And I know the matchup against Cleveland, you think about that Browns defense. Yeah, they've got a great pass rush and their cornerbacks are really good.
Starting point is 00:31:04 I don't think it's going to matter. I think we're going to see Jalen Hurts, whose offensive line, by the way, is back at full strength. That's nice. Hurts to A.J. Brown will be a thing. Everybody's starting these guys, but you should expect big games from both of those stacks. What about Hurts to Devontae Smith?
Starting point is 00:31:19 I think that Smith takes a hit with A.J. Brown back, but no one will take a hit bigger than Dallas Goddard. Goddard's the one that really makes me nervous. So if we were to use the startometer, AJ Brown's a 10, Devontae Smith is like an 8, and Dallas Goddard for me is like a 5. And Jalen Hurts is a 12. This has been the Hellman Stack segment
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Starting point is 00:32:12 Let's go to Jacksonville at Chicago. Updated stat of the game, the Bears have allowed at least 82 yards and a touchdown to four running backs in five games. Pollard, Taylor, Kyron Williams, Chuba Hubbard. None of those guys are really splitting, you know, not even Pollard the way that the Jaguars might be. But this Chicago pass defense, Jamie, has been unbelievable. Their run defense has been very suspect here. So why don't you just break down the Jaguars and how
Starting point is 00:32:41 you see them in terms of starts and sits? It's hard to sit Brian Thomas Jr. At this point, 18 targets his last two games. So tough matchup. You just got to sort of lower expectations a little bit, but I'm still starting him with the hope that he doesn't get shut down like Deontay Johnson did last week, for example. But again, he's just been so good. And I hope it's he's that good that he can overcome some of these tougher situations. Christian Kirk is easier to sit because of Evan Ingram's return.
Starting point is 00:33:07 So Kirk more of a starter in three receiver leagues at best. Better in PPR than non-PPR. Last week, the targets weren't there for him, but he still made a big play. So that's something that will hopefully help him. But Ingram coming back, we saw at least what game one looked like for him, for Kirk at least. So I'm a little bit nervous against the secondary on top of it. Ingram, not a must-start tight end based on the matchup based on a little bit shake off the
Starting point is 00:33:29 rust type of game so borderline starter I still like Tucker Kraft obviously and PPR I would start Conklin over him and I would consider Schultz over him also for the running backs it's uh still ETN over Bigsby but Bigsby can be at a flex, if not a low-end starter in two running backs. In a league, we only start two running backs. I agree with you, Adam. I think we're going to see Bigsby get more carries, and hopefully that's where he wins because he's won the last two weeks, seven for 90 against Houston, over 100 yards rushing against the Colts.
Starting point is 00:34:00 It's a good matchup, and I think this is where Jacksonville will have to sort of go, is lean on their ground game, take some pressure off of Trevor Lawrence, and try and slow the game down a little bit and win it that way. DJ Moore or Brian Thomas? Moore. DJ Moore. Okay. Trey Sermon, if Taylor's out, or Bigsby?
Starting point is 00:34:22 I have both Jaguars running backs over Sermon. Agreed. Okay. I'm actually startinguars running backs over Sherman. Agreed. Okay. I'm actually starting both in a league. Nice. But, uh, well,
Starting point is 00:34:31 I have Bucky Irving, I believe so. Okay. But I also have like Kareem hunt and, you know, buy, buy a place. So you're going to be in for a pickle of a decision.
Starting point is 00:34:40 If Rashad white is ruled out. no, I won't. I mean, Irving will be, it will be Irving. And then, yeah, no, the decision in a half PBR league is ruled out. No, I won't. I mean, Irving will be Irving. No, the decision in a half PPR league is which Jack was running back. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:51 But I would agree with Jamie. I think ETN still deserves to be trusted in PPR leagues. I do buy into that he's their – like when you hear Doug Peterson say, oh, he's our lead back, that just means he's going to start for them. But if he gets, if he doesn't get moving or if he, if his shoulder bothers him, this team will have no hesitation
Starting point is 00:35:11 going back to tank Bigsby and giving Bigsby opportunities to break those big runs that he's been getting. So it's definitely a 1A, 1B type of situation, but ETN is still the 1A. Well, guys, glad I brought up that league because I just went and checked my lineup to see who I'm starting Bigsby and ETN over, and I am losing 50 to nothing. I face Purdy and Kittle, so I guess it doesn't really matter anymore who I'm starting.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Wonderful. So, okay, Najee Harris or Jaguars running backs? Najee right now. If Warren plays, it's different. Yeah, agreed. And doesn't it feel gross to keep going back to Najee week after week? He's had so many good matchups in the last two weeks without Warren and Patterson. You forgot that one, by the way, in your running back blues.
Starting point is 00:35:58 No, I didn't. Oh, in the blue. I didn't. Yeah, you're right. Because it hasn't really changed, but fair enough. Okay, we're right. Because it hasn't really changed, but fair enough. Okay, sorry. So Christian Kirk. We talked about Jamison Williams and Jalen Tolbert.
Starting point is 00:36:11 How about Kirk? Both over Kirk. Yeah, both over Kirk. Okay. So only one wide receiver so far has scored more than 12.2 PPR fantasy points against the Bears. And that was? Nico Collins. The great Nico Collins.
Starting point is 00:36:28 And that was not Calvin Ridley, DeAndre Hopkins, Tank Dell, Stefan Diggs, Michael Pittman, Deontay Johnson. They've been awful, these guys. But not exactly the toughest competition. How many targets did Nico have in that game? It was a bunch, right? He had 10 targets. Eight catches, 135 yards, and a touchdown on 10 targets.
Starting point is 00:36:48 All right, so as we go on through the show, we'll do some more Brian Thomas comparisons. But here's some questions. I'm just going to read some questions from the chat. Bigsby or Dowdell? Bigsby for me. I have Dowdell a spot ahead of Bigsby. Christian Kirk or Tajay Spears?
Starting point is 00:37:06 That's an interesting one. I might go Spears. I'm going Kirk. Christian, okay. They both might have the same amount of catches. Dobbins or Bigsby? Dobbins. JK. Okay. And Evan Ingram.
Starting point is 00:37:21 Dallas Goddard with Devante Smith and AJ Brown back or Evan Ingram? Goddard. I'm taking Ingram. Okay. Pat and AJ Brown back or Evan Ingram? Got it. I'm taking Ingram. Okay. Pat Fryermuth or Ingram? Fryermuth. Ingram, Fryermuth, Goddard. Caleb Williams.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I would start him over Daniel Jones. Why? Well, because Neighbors isn't playing and we have to temper our expectations. The Jaguars give up the most fantasy points to quarterbacks, 32 to Flacco last week, 26 to Stroud, 38 to Allen. Even Deshaun Watson had 15 fantasy points. You know, look, the thing with Caleb Williams is that he was so bad throwing the ball downfield for the first four games. He was QB 28 per game the first four games in four-point-per-passing touchdown leagues, and one of the worst downfield for the first four games. He was QB 28 per game, first four games,
Starting point is 00:38:05 in four-point-per-passing touchdown leagues, and one of the worst downfield passers, not even that far downfield, but one of the worst passers in football, just 10 or more air yards. He was great in that last week, in a terrific matchup against Carolina. But if he can get that fixed,
Starting point is 00:38:21 then he's going to be really good, I think. So, you know, if you don't start him against Jacksonville, then I guess you just... It's not the biggest stretch to say starting him over Daniel Jones when Jones doesn't have his best receiver. It's not like...
Starting point is 00:38:37 I hope people are not that desperate a quarterback that those are your only two options, Caleb Williams or Daniel Jones. No, but they're ranked pretty high. They're fairly high. They're both top 15 quarterbacks. I think they both have the opportunity to play well. And look, they're both, you can't really use them. I was going to say both good DFS plays,
Starting point is 00:38:53 but you can't use the Jacksonville game on the slate. But they're both going to have an opportunity here to help fantasy managers. The thing that I would go back to, though, is it's not like Jones has a horrific matchup. Based on what his season has shown us, certainly last week
Starting point is 00:39:12 too, without Malik Nabors, what's his best game of the season? I would just lean on Jones slightly ahead of Williams because it's not like the... If you're just looking at the team aspect of it, the Bears can run on Jacksonville too.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Let's get to that because Jacksonville's run evens actually has been pretty solid. But do you like DeAndre Swift this week coming off two great games? Yeah, for sure. I mean, you know, back-to-back weeks with 23 carries – or 23 total touches, back-to-back weeks with 120-plus yards, scored a touchdown in each game. You know, the one thing that could be frustrating is he goes back to like what happened to him last year where the yardage is good and he's losing
Starting point is 00:39:50 touchdowns because Roshan's getting those goal line opportunities, similar to Jalen Hurts last year for Philadelphia. You know, so just based on the way that he's operated the last two weeks, and I think part of the reason why Caleb Williams has played better is the offensive line has played better too. You know, so you're looking at a team that's starting to click, and this is a good opportunity here for uh for swift to keep it going okay jaguar is good against the run but they give up the second most receiving yards per game to running backs and
Starting point is 00:40:14 overall the fourth most fantasy points to running backs so swift is the best running back in this game i assume just say yeah he is the best running back in this game and what's been the new addition to his role over the last two weeks a little more pass catching a little more pass catching only two catches last week we had seven the week before uh chicago wide receivers dj moore is the only must start here roma dunzey keenan allen or christian kirk who's the who's the best one in that group i have kirk highest of the three kirk and any interest in cole comet not really he's just been pedestrian when everybody's been healthy i'll start a raven I have Kirk highest of the three. Kirk. And any interest in Cole Comet? Not really.
Starting point is 00:40:48 He's just been pedestrian when everybody's been healthy. I'll start a Ravens tight end. And do you like the Bears DST? Not Charlie Kohler. Not Charlie Kohler. Do you like the Bears DST? I do. Okay, yeah, they're a start.
Starting point is 00:41:00 All right, we'll take a break. We got Arizona at Green Bay and five other games when we come back on Fantasy Football today. The Cardinals are at the Packers. Which quarterback do you like better in this game? Love. Like them both, though, right? Yeah. Which running back do you like better in this game?
Starting point is 00:41:19 Connor. I agree. Which wide receiver do you like better in this game Reed or Harrison Jane Reed is Harrison someone that you could see getting
Starting point is 00:41:34 do the tight ends which tight end do you like better in this game McBride they're back to back they're both top five McBride feels so close to having a big game. I mean, he nearly had a touchdown. He barely almost caught it. And then they set up like a screen to him in the red zone
Starting point is 00:41:52 that was incomplete because there was pressure in Kyler's face. But gets a lot of targets. Target per route run rate, I think I said he's number one amongst tight ends. But, you know. Should be a fun game. It should be, right? I mean, look, just start a lot of guys in this game. I don't know. It should be a fun game. It should be, right? I mean, look, just start a lot of guys in this game. I don't know if there are a lot of tough calls here,
Starting point is 00:42:09 but if you have any questions, you know, go for it. But let's see. It's the secondary receivers. Really, that's it. I mean, nobody's starting Michael Wilson at this point, even though he was better than Marvin Harrison last week. But, I mean, like, even if Jair Alexander plays, like, you're not sitting Marvin Harrison.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Harrison, man. You know, I mean, like, even if Jair Alexander plays, like, you're not sitting Marvin Harrison. Harrison, man. You know, I looked into it a little bit, and, you know, his average route depth, his ADOT, it's just you don't find a lot of receivers
Starting point is 00:42:36 who are good with an average route depth of 11.7 yards. Well, first of all, there's hardly ever any receivers that have a route depth this deep and run a lot of routes and get a lot of, first of all, there's hardly ever any receivers that have a route depth this deep and run a lot of routes
Starting point is 00:42:47 and get a lot of targets. There's like one or two a year. So again, you got to think about it. He's got one game with more than 64 yards. We expect more than that from Marvin Harrison. So, yeah. I wonder if we redid rookie-only drafts right now. He's definitely not going ahead of neighbors.
Starting point is 00:43:07 No. Nope. And does he go ahead of Brian Thomas? I would guess so. I would, yeah. Would you take him ahead of Brian Thomas? I probably still would, but it's a fun conversation. The one who clearly is struggling right now is Odunze,
Starting point is 00:43:26 the high-end guys. Thomas goes ahead of Odunze, for sure. So you guys have Marvin Harrison in your top 12. Heath has him lower, though. I think last I checked, he had him 27th in— let me double-check that. Harrison. Yeah, 27th Marvin Harrison for Heath.
Starting point is 00:43:43 So you guys have faith in him and we'll just leave it at that. So then Jamie, let's talk about the secondary wide receivers and who you like in this game because Michael Wilson is interesting. Michael Wilson's got eight, 11, six, and seven targets in his last four games. So that's six to nine targets in three straight games.
Starting point is 00:44:00 And there have been five wide receivers with six to nine targets against the Packers. And four of them came through with big games. Devante Smith, Alec Pierce, Deandre Hopkins, and Justin Jefferson. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:12 Adam, I don't think those stats are correct on Wilson. Harrison. Oh, hair. Damn it. I'm looking at Harrison. Oh,
Starting point is 00:44:20 no, no, no. Okay. Okay. This first thing I said was wrong, but Wilson does have six to nine targets in three straight games. Okay. Sorry about that. But I was going through Harrison's game. So look, desperation, number three receiver in a deep league, fourth receiver as a flex option in PPR. He certainly fits the bill.
Starting point is 00:44:48 You asked the question earlier. We'll see if Zay Jones factors in. My guess would be no right now, but maybe down the road that becomes something to keep an eye on, which could impact Marvin Harrison too. But I think just looking at it right now, in terms of how this game should go, it should be, you know, Harrison, hopefully finding the end zone. Cause that's kind of been what's saving him. Um, a lot of McBride,
Starting point is 00:45:10 the, the Packers secondary receivers are more, I think, interesting than Michael Wilson, just because of what Wicks did two weeks ago is Watson going to play. Dobbs is now back after the suspension. So, uh,
Starting point is 00:45:22 I know we talked about this before, but I'm not anticipating Watson to play right now. I would lean slightly Dobbs over Wicks. Both are borderline number three receivers. Not a lot of, I don't have them ranked very high. I think if they're on your team, you can consider them number three receivers,
Starting point is 00:45:36 but for, for Dobbs, it just feels like there's okay. Hey, you want more targets? We worked this out. Here's still going to be your six to seven targets. And we know last year he was a big end zone threat for them.
Starting point is 00:45:47 So it wouldn't be surprising if he scores and Wicks just has a decent yardage game. But both number three receivers. Worth pointing out for Dobbs, week one, seven targets. Week four, eight targets. Those are the two games so far that Jordan Love has played in that Dobbs has also played in. So I think it's potentially out-target Wicks. Who are the four tight ends that you're starting over Tucker Craft? Kittle was one.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Powers, Ferguson, McBride. Yep. Okay. All right, so that's the end of this game here. If you have any questions, fire away in the chat. But I do – here's one. Wicks or Josh Down, fire away in the chat. Here's one. Wicks or Josh Downs, who may not play. Wicks or J.K. Dobbins
Starting point is 00:46:30 in standard scoring? Dobbins over both, no matter who plays. I would go Downs over Wicks if Downs plays. Wicks or Tolbert? Tolbert. Tolbert, yeah. Wicks or Dellbert? Tolbert. Tolbert, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Wicks or Dell? Dell for me. Tank. Okay, I got to go back to the Chicago game because I just saw an injury report, and two starters that play every single snap for the Bears in their secondary are going to be out this week. Tyreek Stevenson, their cornerback, is doubtful.
Starting point is 00:47:07 He's a starting corner. And Jaquan Brisker, their safety is out with a concussion. I don't even know if Brisker made the trip. Well, it doesn't matter. He's out. So I didn't talk about that, and I'm sorry. I didn't know that. I just saw the injury update here. Does that change anything? Two of their starting defensive backs are out for chicago i mean obviously helps yeah i i want to know if it
Starting point is 00:47:32 might be jalen jones that replaces stevenson at corner uh and then jonathan owens might replace brisker i'm not sure if it'll be him or another guy yeah of course it helps okay now jalen johnson if you were if you're wondering, he does not travel. He is unlikely to shadow Brian Thomas or anything like that. Well, I mean, this is the first time, right? Stevenson, this is the first game that Stevenson's going to miss. That's true. We can't say for sure that it's going to be that way.
Starting point is 00:48:00 It's just what it has been that way. It has been that way. Well, that brings us to Marshawn Lattimore, doesn't it? All right. Tampa Bay is at New Orleans. Stat of the game. In 12 games against the Saints with Marshawn Lattimore playing, Mike Evans has scored more than 12.8 PPR fantasy points once.
Starting point is 00:48:18 He scored single-digit fantasy points in PPR in seven of 12 games. He has more than 64 yards only twice. He's been ejected in two of those, right? Ejected at least once. I know last time he left with a hamstring injury with 70 yards or something like that in the first half. Whatever it was. No, not that
Starting point is 00:48:37 many. I think it was three for 40 on three targets in the first half. It's 13 or fewer PPR points in each of the past nine games. Evans has played against the saints when Lattimore's also played. Yeah. It hasn't been that good against them when Lattimore hasn't played. And then I went back and I watched his Lattimore this year and last year, he has played a right cornerback almost every single snap,
Starting point is 00:49:00 except when he played Mike Evans last year. He did travel with Evans on three or four snaps on the other side of the field, but Evans usually lines up on that side anyway. So it is interesting. What do you guys think? I think, Dave, you said you have him 23rd or 24th? Yeah, I'm nervous about the track record and what the Saints have done to take Mike Evans away. It seems to be a tried and true method that's worked, whether it's been Baker Mayfield, a quarterback, or Tom Brady, a quarterback, or even Jameis Winston.
Starting point is 00:49:32 It goes back that far. And the quarterbacks have done pretty well against New Orleans. It's maybe 50-50 as for having a big game versus just kind of a mad game or worse. But I think this is the week where you want to talk about stacks. I think Mayfield and Godwin is a smart stack to play and kind of steer yourself away from Evans. You're going to start Evans,
Starting point is 00:49:53 but at least lower expectations. This Saints defense has been good across the board. It's true. Yeah. They've allowed one touchdown pass to six interceptions. Are you serious? So what about Baker Mayfield, Jamie? What about Chris Godwin?
Starting point is 00:50:08 Yeah, Mayfield is just above Daniel Jones and Caleb Williams for me. So I have him 12th. I'm nervous. You know, we saw the Denver game, how that went for him when he faced a tough defense so far this season, and he just wasn't great. And even in some of the other matchups where he's been saved by his rushing touchdowns. So he's had a very consistent streak of 20 or more, not streak, but a consistent track record of 20 or more games going back to the end of
Starting point is 00:50:29 last year. It's been every game but one this season, which was the Broncos game. So it's giving credit to this defense. I mean, you know, they've gotten to quarterbacks. They've done a great job against some pretty good ones too. You know, Mahomes should have had over 20 fantasy points last week. He had that interception in the end zone, which would have put him over 20 points. Um, but it's just, again, I think Baker's so playing so well, you know, we talked about
Starting point is 00:50:53 this on Wednesday, number two quarterback fantasy. I don't think you should be benching him outright. Like I'm not starting Caleb Williams or Daniel Jones over him, but I am lowering my expectations. I think this is going to be a minimal type production from, I think he barely gets over 20 points if he has a good game. Let me, let me throw this one at you guys and see what you think. Does it help Tampa Bay's offense that Derek Carr is out and that Spencer Rattler is starting?
Starting point is 00:51:13 Meaning maybe they get a little bit more in terms of time of possession. Maybe they get more plays. And maybe that helps them add that volume that pushes Baker Mayfield. Kind of what you were saying, Jamie, over the finish line of getting 20 plus. It certainly can. It certainly can. I mean, you know, this could be a very inept Bucs offense because their strength is the running the ball.
Starting point is 00:51:36 And we know the strength of the Bucs defense is stopping the run. Sorry. Sorry. You said, but you said inept Bucs offense offense. No, I'm sorry. No, I said the right thing. Strength of the Bucs defense. Well, you said an inept Bucs offense. Strength of the Saints offense. No, I'm sorry. No, I said the right thing. Strength of the Bucs defense. You said an inept Bucs offense.
Starting point is 00:51:48 Strength of the Saints offense is running the ball. Strength of the Bucs defense is stopping the run. The other way this could work, though, is if the Saints are horrible and the Bucs open up a big lead and they don't throw very much, which is definitely on my mind. That would mean that the Bucs' running game is working,
Starting point is 00:52:06 which we just have not seen very much. So this could be a low-scoring game. What's the total? It's Saints are three-and-a-half-point dogs, but the total is 41-and-a-half, which is pretty low. Yeah, it wouldn't surprise me if that goes under. Well, does that mean you're trying to get away from this game? Are you trying to get away from Godwin?
Starting point is 00:52:21 I'm not getting away from Godwin. Evans, you've got to have better options just to completely sit him because there is still potential of one play and Lattimore giving up a touchdown. He did have some touchdowns in that. I think he's got three touchdowns in those 12 games. I'm going for it. Ready? Bold prediction.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Huge game for Mike Evans. Huge. I hope so. I thought he was beating Lattimore last year when they went head-to-head. And again, he had 40 yards and a half, and then he left with a hamstring injury. And I just feel like... That was in Tampa Bay, though, too, right?
Starting point is 00:52:54 I don't know. That was early in the season, I think, when Godwin went nuts. Yeah, yeah. The only game Godwin went nuts, basically. It's like he's their goal linebacker. They throw to him when they get near the end zone. So I understand where you guys are ranking it.
Starting point is 00:53:10 I would be a little bit cautious too. Honestly, the only safe start for me is Godwin. I'm even nervous about Kamara. No way sitting him by any stretch. Oh, I agree. Higgins or Evans? Higgins. Higgins.
Starting point is 00:53:23 So is there a scenario where you would sit Kamara? Let's say you had James Connor. Let's say you're the two running backs in the Packers game, Connor and Jacobs. No. I think I have Connor ranked ahead of him. I have Jacobs just behind him. But like Chuba Hubbard,
Starting point is 00:53:39 I'd start over Kamara this week. Tony Pollard, I'm starting over Kamara this week. Yeah, I can't do that especially in full ppr bake did i ask you this baker or kyler you didn't but the answer is kyler okay should we go over some receivers that we'd start over evan yeah one last i just real quick baker mayfield or um oh i had a good one here. Oh, Kirk Cousins at Carolina. Cousins is easy for me.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I got him back-to-back with Mayfield one spot ahead. All right, who are the wide receivers you'd start over at? I've warmed up to Cousins. We'll talk about that. Zay Flowers, you mentioned T. Higgins. I'd start him. Deontay Johnson had a terrible game. That's an easy start.
Starting point is 00:54:21 Brian Thomas Jr. Even George Pickens, even though there's some weird vibes coming out of Pittsburgh. As of now, I'd start him over Mike Evans. Terry McLaurin over Mike Evans as well. Pickens getting the squeaky wheel. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:35 I don't know about that. I just wanted to play the soundbite. It might just be the matchup for it. I can't play Pittman's soundbite anymore, so I have to play something. But I do have Evans over Olave. Yeah, where's Olave? Wait, let's wrap the bucks up.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Any interest in Kate Otten this week? The touch, the feel? Bye week tight end in PPR leagues. Okay, so you talked about Kamara. Jamie's lower on Kamara than Dave is. Let me just double check Heath's rankings and see if they're updated here because he has Alvin Camara as his number one running back in fantasy
Starting point is 00:55:08 this week. We are all over the map. Yeah. All right. Rashid Shahid has, by the way, scored 20 more non PPR and 17 more PPR fantasy points than Chris Olave. He has more targets, yards and touchdowns. But I think we're thinking he is such a downfield guy.
Starting point is 00:55:24 It's just going to be hard. Rattler has a good arm, but just the idea of him hitting Shaheed downfield is a little hard for us to see right now. So I'm sure you're sitting Shaheed. What about Olave? Dave, you can start. You just mentioned him. He's a borderline number two wide receiver for me.
Starting point is 00:55:39 I think that he could see his targets go up, certainly from last week, and certainly his catches too. I'm expecting, like, get the ball out quick, rhythm passing from Rattler to these guys, and I think Olave just makes sense as his easy button, someone that he could just throw to quickly over and over again. So right now, Olave is the bust alert and starts it because of Rattler starting.
Starting point is 00:56:06 Todd Bowles is going to make Rattler very uncomfortable with all the blitz packages he's going to throw at him. However, if Shahid is out, then we could see 10 plus targets for Olave in this game. Oh, yeah. You're right. Shahid is on the injury report. It's a good
Starting point is 00:56:22 point. I will probably remove Olave from the bust alert if Shahid is out just because there's just so many opportunities for him. The one thing I do like from Rattler is he was asked about Olave. I don't know what the question was, but he said, anytime he's on the field, I have to be looking for him, and that's encouraging. Where Derek Carr has sort of lost with Chris Olave
Starting point is 00:56:43 is the ability to throw into some tight situations and to challenge cornerbacks. I wonder if Rattler just has that YOLO mindset of this is my time to prove myself. And if the receivers like me, maybe I can keep the job if Derek Carr continues to not necessarily put up numbers that he's capable of putting up. All right.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Just a quick question here from Rob. How was the Bucks defense against past catching running backs? It is bad. They give up the third most receiving yards. This is where Kamara still wins and wins in a big way. Hopefully five, five running backs have had 29 or more receiving yards so far in five games against the Bucs. And you're going to sit the tight ends of Taysom Hill plays, which doesn't look like it's going to happen. Then he could always score a touchdown. Detroit is at Dallas. Dallas has eight passing and two rushing touchdowns in five games. Detroit has six passing and seven rushing touchdowns in four games. Dallas is 29th in run rate. Detroit is eighth. Detroit has kicked five field goals. Dallas has kicked 14. Huge difference among these two teams here. Detroit has run eight more plays inside the five-yard line than Dallas, despite playing one fewer game. The Cowboys have run the fifth fewest plays inside the five-yard line. It's kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:57:54 And Detroit is sixth in offensive points per game. Dallas is 13th. All right, talking about this game here, this is another one where it's kind of like Arizona-Green Bay, where we're starting Dak, we're starting Lamb, starting Ferguson without question, starting both Detroit running backs, right? Would you start Montgomery over Camara?
Starting point is 00:58:14 Yes. Non-PPR, yes. Half PPR? Probably. I've got Camara over Montgomery in full PPR. Okay, so start those guys. Start Montgomery and full PPR. Okay. So start those guys start on Ross St. Brown.
Starting point is 00:58:28 So then Dave, I guess it's kind of like the, it's, it's like Wicks and Wilson and Dobbs where we're talking about Jamison and Tolbert. And I guess Dalida would be in there too, but you know, so who are the tough calls in Dallas and Detroit?
Starting point is 00:58:41 I don't know if they're necessarily tough calls because I think it's going to be a high scoring game. And I think that we could see these wide receivers make huge plays Williams more so than Tolbert, but they're, they're both in line to have huge numbers. These are the exact type of bi-week replacement receivers, boom,
Starting point is 00:59:00 bus flex that you, that you want to put in your lineup. I think they both have good matchups. Dallas's secondary is getting healthy, but their pass rush, man, it's just, it's down to nothing.
Starting point is 00:59:10 And that's just going to help Jared golf have another efficient game. So why aren't you guys higher on golf then? Cause you have Dak as top six quarterback, but golf, you have like, I think outside your top 12. Yeah. Outside your top 12.
Starting point is 00:59:23 He's 13th for me. I, you know, just like a bunch of quarterbacks this week, we'll see how some of the injuries to the receivers maybe change something. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:59:30 when I was talking about Baker and Jameis, excuse me, and Caleb and Daniel Jones, like golf is right in between them. So higher ceiling this week, I think golf has a higher ceiling than Baker. I'm just counting on Baker's track record to be a little bit safer than,
Starting point is 00:59:45 than golf, because we know this run game is fantastic for the lions and the defense for Dallas is awful. You know, so this could easily be a huge game for Jameer Gibbs and David Montgomery. I do think that this is potentially a breakout game for Sam Laporta. You know, you saw him finally get a little bit more involved in their last game against
Starting point is 01:00:03 Seattle with four catches, 43 yards, I think five targets. I'm not mistaken. No, it couldn't be four targets because golf was perfect. And he's getting healthier. I don't think we gave enough credit to that hamstring injury that he dealt with in the preseason, you know, that he missed all that time and little sluggish to start the season. So this is a good bylaw opportunity for Laporta. I don't think you're starting him over any of the top tight ends that have been playing. Like I know, for example, I picked up Tucker Kraft. I'm starting Kraft over him still just because I think Kraft deserves that based on how he's performed and the matchup that he has against Arizona.
Starting point is 01:00:34 But it would not surprise me if Laporta has a breakout game this week. And that's where sort of golf starts to evolve a little bit more. That, unfortunately, will probably come at the expense of Jamison Williams because, as you said, Adam, we've seen five targets from him the last two weeks, where the games before that, it was nine plus in the first two. It hasn't really been because of Laporta yet. Correct. But it also has been because David Montgomery. It's been because
Starting point is 01:00:56 of Tim Patrick. It's been because of the little bit Jameer Gibbs, which, unfortunately, still needs a little bit more in the passing game. Jameer Gibbs does not have a target in two straight games. I was about to get into this. I don't think there's a rhyme or reason. Put it that way. There's not a rhyme or reason.
Starting point is 01:01:09 They've talked about that there's big games coming for him. So you wonder coming off the bye week if we just start to see the unleashing of Jameer Gibbs. Did you hear what Dave Montgomery said their nickname is? No. Sonic and Knuckles. Oh, I like that. Which one's which? That that's good i like that um
Starting point is 01:01:28 all right so hey quick thing on laporta he's got a catch of 20 plus yards in each of his last two games like i i think i think jamie's on to something it's the game of the week yeah i was wondering if this was it and The Lions and the Cowboys. Of course, it's the game of the week. All right. The game of the week. Hey. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:53 I was literally just about to text you like, what the hell are you doing? And I'm sitting here thinking, what other game could it possibly be? Or is he going to somehow throw the Ravens and Commanders in there? Yeah. Yeah. I wasn't sure what you were going to go throw the ravens and commanders in there yeah yeah i wasn't sure what you were going to go with but you did get it in and this is the game that i was hoping that you would say there you go all right let me read some questions here we gotta talk about rico dowdle um odunze or tolbert tolbert jameson williams or chase brown chase brown chase brown yeah yeah rico dowdle or chase brown or joe mixon in non-ppr i need two if everybody's healthy rico's the odd man out one other thing on these receivers
Starting point is 01:02:35 for detroit how many passes is jared goff thrown in the last two weeks like this is why he's not top 12 for me. 41, 41 combined. And you know, we went 18 for 18 because the whole world plastered it on social media. It was cool. Anyone 18 for 23, he's completed 88% of his passes and average 12 yards per attempt in his last two games, which is why I think I'm starting. I'm going to start him over Baker Mayfield. Ooh, I don't hate the rationale for it. I just would rather have the quarterback who I think will throw more and certainly will throw more inside the 10 inside the five. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:10 I haven't made that decision yet. I'm leading that way, but all right. But hopefully Jericho throws, I don't know, 30 times. That would be great. If it's a high scoring game and then there's target, there's enough to go around for everybody, including the target list. Jameer Gibbs.
Starting point is 01:03:27 I mean, look, give, give Dallas credit. They went into Pittsburgh and miserable weather. And I think everybody kind of wrote them off that, okay, this is going to be a tough game for them because Pittsburgh defense is so
Starting point is 01:03:36 great. And Dak had three 52 and two, you know, and if that offense shows up, which we know they're capable of, and it's great offense, then we see a shootout, which is what everybody's hoping all right where do you have rico dowdle ranked uh borderline borderline number two running back for me it was an espn article about the
Starting point is 01:03:55 cowboys offensive coordinator brian schottenheimer said um that rico dowdle's game against the steelers was his most disciplined of the season. If anything, Dowdle just needs to maybe slow down, and that comes with experience, McCarthy said. That's just kind of an interesting thing. This guy's really still learning, and slowing down is important. You know, you don't just run. You got to set up your blocks, and I guess he did a very good job with his discipline against the Steelers.
Starting point is 01:04:19 Sure, and he's clearly become their number one running back, and it's not Zeke who's playing on passing downs. It's their fullback. Lipke. Lipke. Lipke. Lockie. He's the one who's actually playing on third downs,
Starting point is 01:04:33 and he gets a little bit of work. So I wonder if they start to write Zeke off a little bit, and it's down to two guys. There was a video of him in the locker room with the rain delay last week struggling to put on his shoulder pads, and somebody suggested maybe there's a shoulder injury going on there. Okay. Well, we've got to wrap up here.
Starting point is 01:04:51 This is a tough matchup. Lions are third best against running backs, and they give up the fourth fewest receiving yards per game to running backs. So Dowdle's going to be a low-end starter, but, you know, ahead of Trey Sermon, right? For me, yes. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Atlanta's at Carolina. Stat of the game number one, I already gave it. This is the game of the week? Four games. This actually could be a good game. Four wide receivers. Could be.
Starting point is 01:05:18 I agree. Lead the NFL with eight catches of 20 or more yards. They are Justin Jefferson, Nico Collins, Jaden Reed, and Darnell Mooney. And stat of the game number two is that,
Starting point is 01:05:27 look at the other side of the ball, lead wide receivers have done very well against Atlanta. Pickens, Devante Smith, Rasheed Rice, Chris Olave, Rasheed Shahid.
Starting point is 01:05:37 They all had more than 76 or more yards. And then Mike Evans had 62 yards and two touchdowns. So it looks like a great matchup for Deontay. Are we going right back to Deontay? Right back. Okay, great. And then Mooney, yeah, London, everyone's going to start. Starters
Starting point is 01:05:51 at Darnell, Mooney, how does he compare to Tolbert and Williams and Wicks and all those guys? Ahead. I've got Tolbert ahead of Mooney. All right, but I'm loving what I'm seeing from Mooney. He's right there in targets on the team, and he's not like he's a downfield guy but not like a super downfield boomer bus kind of guy he's got 40 targets leads the team in yards per catch fifth and explosive play rate plays in the
Starting point is 01:06:17 slot 32 of the time so he's not going to get shut down by corners or anything and uh it's a really good start and then there was an ESPN article about him and the chemistry he has with Kirk Cousins. Remember back in the preseason, right before the season started, when you didn't run waivers the right way? Yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, just a little sleeper shout-out here
Starting point is 01:06:38 to Ray Ray McLeod. Five or more targets in four or five games. Seven or more targets in three or five games. Six percent rostered. Can we put the targets from last week in perspective, though? Sure, yeah. I mean, this is the opposite of what we were saying with Detroit's passing game. Kirk Cousins threw 58 times.
Starting point is 01:06:55 I don't think he's going to have to throw 38 times and maybe not even 28 times against Carolina. And Carolina's bad. And there's no question that Cousins can still get to good numbers. We've seen other quarterbacks with low pass volume get good numbers against Carolina and Carolina is bad. And there's no question that cousins can still get to good numbers. We've seen other quarterbacks with low pass volume, get good numbers against Carolina that that can happen. And I don't mind London, but I wonder a little bit about Mooney. Could he go back to what he was a week ago or two weeks ago since last week? He was great.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Six targets, three catches, 56 yards, no touchdowns. Okay. And the week before that eight targets, he caught them all for 66 yards. So I would, I have a little bit of pause on Darnell, on Darnell Mooney. I think he can be a great number three receiver, but I don't want to rush him too high up the rank list. If I don't disagree with anything you're saying, but you can apply the same thing to Dan Tolbert and the same thing to Jameson Williams.
Starting point is 01:07:42 By the way, you know where he thinks Mooney? I think that those guys will be in a high-scoring game where their quarterbacks will throw a lot, certainly in the case of Tolbert. Maybe a little less so in the case of... Right, but just in terms of not rushing these guys up the flagpole, it's a one-game sample size for Jalen Tolbert, whereas Mooney at least has given you four games
Starting point is 01:08:00 of pretty great production. Okay. By the way, Heath has Darnell Mooney 11th. How do you rank the running backs in this game? Is it Bijan over Hubbard or what? I've got Bijan over Hubbard. I do too, but Hubbard's been awesome. There's no reason to go away from him.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Yeah, he's been terrific. And start Kirk Cousins, but tell me, Jamie, why you're pumped about Cousins. He's getting healthy. He's been terrific. And start Kirk Cousins, but tell me, Jamie, why you're pumped about Cousins. He's getting healthy. He's getting comfortable. He's starting to look like the guy the Falcons were hoping that they would get when they signed him to this deal. And you have three receiving options that are playing well. Give Pitt some credit for the game that he's coming off of where they finally got him involved.
Starting point is 01:08:41 And you see what he's capable of when he's doing stuff like that. So the matchup is fantastic. You know, Dave said said it it doesn't take a lot of past attempts to have success against this team there's only one quarterback that's been sub 20 fantasy points against them that's justin herbert who's just not going to give you those type of numbers so just based on you adam what did you say about caleb williams you know he was not playing very well and then here comes carolina so it's it's just one of those situations where with the way these guys are performing right now with London and Mooney and pits and you know, look, the run game should get going, but what if it doesn't, what if it's really an Atlanta problem that they can't run the ball and then it's back to Kirk Cousins.
Starting point is 01:09:17 No, I don't even want you to speak it into existence. So I'm not sitting a guy coming off of the game that he just had when he says himself he's starting to feel better after the pretty significant injury carolina's allowed at least 20 fantasy points to joe burrow derrick carr and caleb williams who had the most pass attempts of those three and how many was it either williams or uh burrow because it certainly wasn't. I'm going to say Burrow with 29. Jamie, you're going to Williams. Williams had 29. Burrow had 31.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Bang. We both were right and wrong. And here's the other thing. Like, I think Carolina can put up some points. We like Chuba Hubbard. We're going right back to Deontay Johnson. I know that the offensive line is an issue for Carolina, but I don't know if the Falcons pass rush is great. On paper, it looks good, but I don't know if the Falcons pass rush is, is great on paper.
Starting point is 01:10:05 It looks good, but I don't think they have a lot of sacks this year. They have the fewest in football. Yeah. So that would tell you not great. So I think that we will see Carolina kind of force the issue a little bit. I will take over on 31 pass attempts for Kirk cousins in this game. Okay. So, uh So just real quick, Lee Gett, is he a top 36 guy this week? No. He's outside of there for me.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Kyle Pitts or Dallas Goddard? Pitts. Kyle Pitts or Tucker Kraft? Kraft. K-R-A-F-T. And from the chat, Andy Dalton or Trevor Lawrence? Oh, that's gross.
Starting point is 01:10:44 You can't get your hands on Daniel Jones, huh? Well, look, two starters. I've got Dalton or Trevor Lawrence? Oh, that's gross. You can't get your hands on Daniel Jones, huh? Look, two starters are out. I've got Dalton for now. Two starters are out for the Bears. If Bijan Robinson does not play, and by the way, you guys have him as a top seven running back. Heath has him in the 12th.
Starting point is 01:10:57 If Bijan doesn't play for some reason, Algier is 65% rostered. Bijan keeps showing up with injuries, so not a bad idea to get Tyler Algier. He'd be a must start, right? Top 15 running back, easy. 65% rostered. Bijan keeps showing up with injuries. So not a bad idea to get Tyler Algier. Would he enter? He'd be a must start, right? Top 15 running back. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:10 And he's the one who's been running well in this outside zone scheme. He's not a better running back than Bijan, but he understands what he's being asked to do more so than Bijan. And this is a thing with Bijan that goes back to college. Like I went and studied his studied what he did in college and he was better in gap scheme runs than zone scheme runs there too. From the chat,
Starting point is 01:11:30 Cousins or Stroud? Cousins. That's changed for me. I started the week with Stroud over Cousins. From the chat, Deontay Johnson or Tee Higgins? Half PPR.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Deontay. Agreed. All right. Let's go to our next game. Falcons DST is in play. Ninth for Jamie, fourth for Dave, ninth for Heath. Cincinnati isay. Agreed. All right. Let's go to our next game. Oh, Falcons DST is in play ninth for Jamie fourth for Dave ninth for Heath. Cincinnati is at the giants. I already gave the stat of the game. The giants are one in 14 and primetime games since Daniel Jones became the
Starting point is 01:11:54 starting quarterback. According to the Bergen record though, they've been underdogs in 14 of those 15 games and they are underdogs again, three and a half point favorites, Cincinnati on the road. Uh, Joe Burrow is a top three quarterback for you. So, so far he hasn't been good on the road.
Starting point is 01:12:10 But I went back and I looked and he's got something like 12, 30 point games in his career. And five of them have been on the road. So he can do it on the road too. I got to say though, like the Giants defense really hasn't been that bad. They lead the NFL in sacks. No Kayvon Thibodeau is a big deal. Is there any hesitation
Starting point is 01:12:29 with... We could be quick here. Any hesitation with the Bengals offensively? None. Okay. Higgins is double-digit targets, two straight games. Chase is Chase. Then it's really the running backs here. Jamie, why don't you just lay it out. If they both play... I know you did this earlier in the show but real quick if they both play and
Starting point is 01:12:47 if if one of them misses what are you thinking here against the giants who have given up five yards per carry to running backs uh right now chase brown is a top 10 running back for me because i do not have zach moss ranked if moss plays chase brown goes to around running back like 18 to 20 in that range. Moss would be a high-end flex. If Brown is out, then Moss would be around running back 15, just because I think Chase Brown running a little bit better than Moss showed us earlier this season. But clearly there's huge opportunity for either one if the other one is out. Okay.
Starting point is 01:13:22 And I don't even think we should but we can do it but because why not but if devin singletary were out where would tyrone tracy be i mean i don't think he's going to be where would tyrone i started the week with tracy at running back 17 so he was uh right around you know mid mid mid-range number two running back if there is no devin singletary right think about all the unappealing number two running backs there are. Nah, just kidding. I'm pumped.
Starting point is 01:13:48 I'm really pumped for this game. It should be a fun one. I think you've got a chance to win. I wish I could go. I want to go so badly. I want to go. I can't go. I got a show.
Starting point is 01:13:57 I got to, I want to bring a towel. I got one. I get really, you have really some football game, you know, like a towel to wave, like one of those white towels,
Starting point is 01:14:05 just like wave it. It's a hell of a week for New York sports. I think I'm going to go to the Yankees on Monday. Giants Sunday night, Jets Monday night, both baseball teams in the LCS. That's pretty impressive. What about the Liberty? Aren't they in the final? Liberty in the final?
Starting point is 01:14:22 Yeah, that's right. Good call. There you go. All right, so anyway, Dave, what were you saying? Oh my God. How they blow again. Dave, talk about Wanda Robinson and Darius Slayton. They are going to be outstanding options,
Starting point is 01:14:33 at least as number two wide receivers in PPR. If there is no Malik neighbors, you know what to expect from Wanda already. Tons of targets, short area guy, hoping that he scores a touchdown on top of it all. But even if he doesn't minimum 15 PPR points, that feels like his floor. And Slayton's got the upside because he can be a downfield threat on top of being a short and mid-range target like we saw last week.
Starting point is 01:14:54 And this Bengals defense, they've got a good pass rush, not a great one, but everything else is really suspect. So if neighbors is out, which wide receiver do you like better for the job? I have one higher than PPR. I might have Slayton higher than none. I should have. I do. Yep.
Starting point is 01:15:12 And I'll say the Bengals have allowed 15 or more PPR fantasy points to four wide receivers in their last two games. Deontay, Liggett, Zay Flowers, Rashad Bateman, all four of them had eight or more targets, and they're missing Dax Hill. But one thing I found interesting was Daniel Jones,
Starting point is 01:15:30 he threw only three passes from 10 to 20 air yards last week on 34 pass attempts. It's like it's all short stuff, and then there's the deep ball. There's some intermediate stuff, but I don't love that, but it's probably getting a little bit too into the weeds. So Daniel Jones is – That's what's making Wandale so good. Yeah. Daniel Jones is 14th for you guys. Justin Fields or Daniel Jones?
Starting point is 01:15:53 Started the week with Fields out of Jones. I've moved that to Jones over Fields. CJ Stroud or Daniel Jones? Stroud. Agreed. Jared Goff or Daniel Jones? Goff. I have Stroud, Jones, Goff, back- jones goff i have stroud jones goff back to back to back jack okay and two sleeper tight ends this game if gasecki's out yeah he was limited on thursday
Starting point is 01:16:16 so i don't know if there's really a shot of him being out but eric all should be on the radar dynasty leaguers already know about him oh Oh, he's rostered in all those. Yeah, of course. Theo Johnson's already know about him. Theo Johnson's coming off five for 48 on five targets. But yeah, whatever. Houston's at New England.
Starting point is 01:16:34 Stat of the game number one. Nico Collins has accounted for 38.4% of CJ Stroud's yards and three of his seven touchdowns. It's insane. Stat of the game number two. I love this. Hopefully, well, I love it for Mixon.
Starting point is 01:16:47 The Patriots have allowed 80 rushing yards or a touchdown to seven running backs in five games. I know, right? It's amazing. They got destroyed by the Dolphins' run game last week. But anyway, Jamie- The Dolphins' run game without A-chan. Yeah. And yeah, their, one game without a Chan.
Starting point is 01:17:05 Yeah. And yeah, they, the, their fullback Alec Engel was just crushing people. Jamie, what do you think about the Texans passing game this week? Diggs is a must-start guy without Nico there.
Starting point is 01:17:18 I mean, he's been a must-start guy with Nico. Oh, all right. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Yeah,
Starting point is 01:17:24 no, go ahead. Dave has to do a radio hit. Go ahead. Yeah, I got to leave soon, too, if you want me to make the mail back. Same, geez. So Diggs is a must-start guy.
Starting point is 01:17:32 Tank Dell is number three receiver. Dalton Schultz is a borderline starting tight end, better in PPR than none. Go back to this real quick. What about the DSTs for Bengals Giants? I missed that from Eric. Eric? I mean, desperation play, I think, for either team.
Starting point is 01:17:47 More so the Bengals, I think, than the Giants just because you're hoping Daniel Jones can maybe have some turnovers. But look, he's played well in the Bengals defense. Thanks. Yeah. All right, Joe Mixon would be an easy start if he plays? 100%. And if he doesn't play, I kind of want to avoid it
Starting point is 01:18:02 because I don't know what the splits are. I would try to avoid it if you can, but Ogumbawale would still be my favorite because I think he still plays on passing downs over Pierce. I think just Pierce steps into Akers' role, and Akers becomes nothing. I wish you guys were higher on Tank Dell, but I understand that he's around 30th.
Starting point is 01:18:18 We talked about him a lot yesterday, today. Dalton Schultz is interesting. You have him 13th, I think, in PPR. The Patriots have allowed 11.2 or more PPR fantasy points to a tight end in three straight games. Conklin, Kittle, and Jonu Smith. And Schultz, oh, I had a stat on that.
Starting point is 01:18:35 Schultz, uh, he had six targets without Nico Collins last week. That's pretty good. And the game before without, though. Oh, good point.
Starting point is 01:18:51 But the six targets, oh yeah, so all six of those targets came after the Nico Collins injury. On the Patriots side of the ball, I'm assuming it's just the running backs we're thinking about here. Let's say Mixon is out, but Ramondrere is in is remandre easily the best running back in this game mixin out remandre in yes mixin out remandre out gibson would be my favorite running back in this game is remandre gonna crack your top 20 uh no he's just outside of right now told uh sorry uh dowdle or remandre remandre raymond says if mix and sit should i start damian pierce or cam acres pierce if that's your choice but if
Starting point is 01:19:33 cook sits then get ray davis and start him over but over those guys there's no guarantee davis is the guy but i would lean that way yes right take a shot there. Um, all right. I did. I did build a fun, uh, DFS lineup before our show started with Drake may and Jalen poke. You never know. I mean, trying to, trying to hit some big,
Starting point is 01:19:54 right, right. Polk plays every snap. You never know. I think, you know, I think may could be sort of like will Levis where you're going to get turnovers.
Starting point is 01:20:02 You're going to get bad plays, but you're also going to get a gunslinger. Yep, a little bit of wow mentality. Absolutely. But that being said, Jamie has Houston DST, I think, number one overall. Yes. Well, I mean, look, there's still a very good defense.
Starting point is 01:20:15 I know they haven't performed, I think, up to expectations, and they are on the road, but it's still a rookie quarterback with very little, very limited weapons. And that is it for today's show. Finally, we'll talk to you in an hour for the mailbag, if I can get this show edited by then. We'll see you later, everybody.
Starting point is 01:20:31 We'll see you later, everybody.

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