Fantasy Football Today - Start or Sit (NFC), Struggling WRs, Tua (09/13 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 13, 2024Tough night for Tua Tagovailoa and the Dolphins as we hope for the best for Tua. We start the show with a game recap and what we can expect from the Dolphins offense if Tua misses time. Should you tr...y to trade De'Von Achane right now? Is there any hope for Dalton Kincaid and the rest of the Bills receiving corps? ... News and notes (12:45), rest of season outlooks for Drake London and Marvin Harrison Jr. (17:40), One Question for Each Game (21:30) and Beat the Waiver Wire (27:15) ... Start or Sit for Bucs-Lions (29:30), Saints-Cowboys (34:50), Chargers-Panthers (44:35), Rams-Cardinals (49:15), Giants-Commanders (56:50), 49ers-Vikings (1:02:00) and Falcons-Eagles (1:07:15). We talk about J.K. Dobbins, Malik Nabers, Terry McLaurin, David Montgomery, Rashid Shaheed, Jared Goff and more ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Happy Friday, everybody.
Today on the show, does the Falcons offense get going against the Eagles?
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Can the Giants? No,
it can't. It won't. But we welcome you to our Friday edition of Fantasy Football Today,
presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. Well, it's kind of a tough morning, guys.
Adam, Jamie, and Dave here. It's Friday. I like to be bouncing around, super happy.
But it's kind of depressing with Tua, and we just hope everything's okay.
Obviously suffering the concussion
last night. Welcome in Dave and Jamie
here. Other than that,
Jamie, an impressive
thrashing by the Buffalo Bills.
I may have underestimated
their secondaries so far through two games.
Still not giving up any big plays
and maybe not the matchup I thought
they'd be. They look great.
You know, pass rush looks fantastic.
I don't know how much of that was the
Dolphins offensive line. They lost their left guard in the middle
of the game. You know, so how much of that
was just poor offensive line played by Miami,
but, you know, Tua before the injury
was not playing at a very
high level. You know, you don't see
him that inaccurate.
And who knows what was going on there.
But give the Bills defense credit, obviously.
They played great.
James Cook was a monster.
And that was fun to see.
Ray Davis ran the ball well when he got his opportunities.
It's not often that you see the Bills win by 21 points and Josh Allen doesn't do, you know, Superman type things.
So it's frustrating for Dalton Kincaid. Once again, it's frustrating, you know, for Keon Coleman,
you know, so people that invested in those two guys, clearly more so Kincaid than Coleman.
Uh, we may have a problem on our hands, but bills as a team, they look fantastic.
These, this was the sixth fewest pass attempts that Allen has had in a game in his career.
Yeah.
13 of 19, 139 yards in the touchdown.
Not what we were expecting by any stretch of the imagination.
Also, like two of two is interceptions.
He was throwing at Dubose.
He was throwing at Robbie Chosen.
It looked like timing was off on both of those throws.
Maybe a miscommunication with Chosen.
I don't know if we can put that on Tua necessarily.
That might have more to do with just not having chemistry with his receivers,
but it begs the question, why is he throwing to those guys?
Well, I mean, they were making a big effort to take away anything down the field.
Sure.
And they were doing a great job of taking away Tyree kill and Jalen
model.
Yeah.
Like McDaniel did not have a good game plan.
Right.
That's where I was going with it is that Mike McDaniel is known as this,
you know,
play calling wizard and he clearly can do it with the run game.
Holy cow.
Devon HN,
but the past game,
he,
he didn't have a counter punch at all.
And he's got two of the best receivers in the league.
That was, that was kind of eye-opening.
Well, I think maybe the counterpunch would have looked better
if the two receivers that Tua threw to on those interceptions,
especially the first one.
Obviously, that ball was perfectly placed.
The second one, a little less clear on.
But yeah, I think the counterpunch was to keep the ball short to A-Chan,
run the ball.
And unfortunately, the turnovers really bit them.
But obviously we've got to talk about the Dolphins going forward
now, if Tua misses time. We do have
a little bit of a sample size from two years ago.
And we'll talk about the
Bills as well, because you could be panicking
over those guys, like Jamie was saying, with Kincaid
and everyone else. But only 19 pass
attempts. Horrible game script
for the passing game.
That's, you know, those things happen.
They barely have the ball.
Yeah, they have the ball for 23 minutes and 41 seconds.
Also, I don't know if, Jamie, you mentioned it.
You mentioned the Dolphins left guard left,
but also Teron Armstead, their left tackle.
Sorry, I don't know if you said that.
He left with an injury as well.
So horrible day for the Miami Dolphins.
And, you know, Jamie, we look at,
it doesn't even make sense to go back to 2022
and look what happened because they had six games
that they played without Tua, including
that Bengals game that he left. It was a Thursday
night also, left around
halftime. Tyreek Hill was
pretty good. He had one terrible game
against the Jets. He had two
huge games. He had three okay games.
Jalen Waddell was awful in
those six games. That was a good season for Waddle too.
Um,
so yeah,
like if Tua misses time and he,
if it was first concussion and he had 10 days,
maybe it would expect him back next week.
But let's obviously think conservatively with Tua.
If he misses time,
are you going to start Waddle?
And are you going to have Hill as even a top 12
guy?
Hill will still be a top 12 guy. Waddle will be tougher
just because, like you said, it wasn't
great for him. He's clearly
evolved as a player, so that's part of it. You've got
to hope that Mike McDaniel
does get some better production
out of Skylar Thompson leaning on
his players, but it'll be matchup dependent as well.
You know, the Titans game, for example, coming up,
we know it's not going to be easy for them.
Yeah.
Sorry, go ahead, Dave. What'd you say?
I was just saying, I don't know if any game is going to be easy for them.
Their defense was out of position a number of times.
Two starters on the offensive line might be missing,
and their quarterback is out.
They got Seattle and then Tennessee and then at New England and then a bye.
So it's not a great schedule for them.
We might not see Tua until then.
Finishing up on the Dolphins.
Brian Tannehill reunion?
Yeah, sure.
With A-Chan.
Excel or just hold him let's have some fun
write it out
oh you're absolutely holding him
especially while
Mostert's out the argument is Mostert has a chest
injury it's not like Mostert has a hamstring
or a knee or something it's not considered serious
and he's
played two games and he left one,
and HN was on the injury report after one of them.
So I don't know.
Is this, like, the right time to sell?
That would be the argument.
But I guess, you know, could you sell him for McCaffrey?
I don't know if that's something that I'd want to do.
He's, listen, he had the most touches yesterday of any running back since Mike McDaniel became the head coach of the Dolphins.
It's tied for the second most snaps played of any running back that's played for the Miami Dolphins.
I don't know when Mostert's coming back.
I know he's not going to go on IR.
That just means he might miss one more game, two more games.
When he does come back, I don't know how this backfield doesn't belong to HM.
The only issue now is whether or not he stays healthy enough for the whole season.
But if I knew now, if I knew then what I knew now, what I know now, what the hell, I can't
even say the sentence.
HM would have been a first round pick for me.
This is, he looks outstanding.
He was their whole offense yesterday.
And he basically was a huge chunk of their offense in week one,
save for a big play to Tyreek Hill.
But both those games are when Mostert was injured, though.
I don't think Mostert's going to come back
and take A-Chan down to eight touches a game.
No, no, but the ceiling is lower.
I don't know if there is a ceiling with this guy. And now you have a quarter i don't know there's a ceiling with
this guy now you have an offensive line issue at play i mean if i could turn hn into chris mccaffrey
that's the biggest no-brainer in the world i just put up a poll we'll see on twitter i think it's
easy i i can't sit here and say that mccaffrey's a bigger injury risk than hn right and though he's
currently i know mccaffrey's currently injured, but he's practicing. Um,
yeah.
So we'll see what people say.
I suspect McCaffrey will still get a lot of it,
but it's 14 catches in two games for HN.
It is extremely intentional the way they are getting the ball to him, uh,
with short passes.
They're either basically throwing it downfield to their two big guns or
throwing it short to HN.
Uh,
sure.
There's so many things about to go wrong for Miami.
Yeah.
But a lot of those things
were kind of going wrong already obviously not the quarterback that's kind of a big deal but
last night they lost two offensive linemen and their quarterback of course you're right but i
listen it's not like their offensive line was really good and now suddenly it's really bad
they did lose their best lineman we don't know how long he's going to be out for but i i think
that they've been working around a suspect offensive line
since McDaniel got there.
And one of the solutions to it are these short throws
and these tosses to A-chan and getting him on the edge with blockers.
My goodness, they're using him like Christian McCaffrey.
The preliminary results are in.
35 votes.
McCaffrey, 51%.
H&N, 49%.
Wow.
We'll keep track of it.
Any thoughts on the Bills, fellas?
I think Jamie nailed it with Kincaid.
There could be a problem there.
But at least he's playing every snap.
There was a big change in how they played from week one to week two.
They used a lot more 12 personnel in week one.
That's two tight ends.
They,
they did not use a lot of two tight ends early on in week number two and
Kincaid still played a lot and they tried to get them involved early.
I think if I think if the game were closer,
we would have seen plenty of more targets to Dalton Kincaid.
I'm not,
I'm not too worried about him.
Might lower expectations a little bit,
but three days from now, we might be lowering expectations
for a lot of tight ends, given how the season's going.
Lowered expectations.
Dalton Kincaid is 10 points a game, and that's a good week.
And a good week, yeah.
So far, he doesn't even have 10 points on the season.
He has five catches for 44 yards on six targets.
Khalil Shakir, 24% start and 84% rest.
Cool drop in Keon Coleman.
He had five targets last week, but one this week.
Again, that's a byproduct of the game's preview
or if you need something right away.
Yeah, don't be the guy who dropped Justin Jefferson for Peyton Barber.
Just give these rookie wide receivers some time. All right. right away. Yeah, don't be the guy who dropped Justin Jefferson for Peyton Barber. You know,
just give these rookie
wide receivers some time.
All right,
that is it for Buffalo 31
and Miami 10.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, I don't think
we usually do it on Fridays.
I don't know.
We just did, punk.
It was questionable.
Okay, so this weekend,
we got CBS Sports HQ
Sunday at 10.
Jamie will be on there
giving fantasy,
dropping fantasy dimes.
And then we've got 11.30 a.m. Eastern,
youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday,
Q&A with me, Dave, and Heath.
We're just answering your questions for almost 90 minutes.
And at that point in time, I will have a mustache.
I will pay off the bet on Sunday,
shave the rest of this beard, and be a mustachioed man.
Unless it's not really in yet,
then I might just keep it. Unless it's not really in yet,
then I might just keep it going until it's really time.
But there will be a mustache at some point for me losing the Giants versus Vikings bet.
We're going to take a break.
We got news and notes for you when we come back.
We'll update you on McCaffrey and Ken Walker
and Jake Ferguson, excuse me, and more.
And then we have beat the waiver wire as well
a little bit later.
We'll be right back on FFT.
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News and notes.
Christian McCaffrey did practice, but are you guys expecting him at this point?
No.
No, but it's getting close.
Yeah. It's encouraging, at least.
Yes, it is definitely. He said he's going to play.
All right.
Who knows? After last week,
I'm waiting until Sunday.
Christian McCaffrey, 57%
of the vote versus A-Chan right now.
Ken Walker, missed practice
with the oblique injury.
Noah Fant, practice in full.
Guess Zach Charbonnet's roster percentage.
73%.
I'll take the under.
Oh, I thought it would be in the 90s by now.
It's only 71%.
Jamie's too good at this game.
It's weird.
Zach Charbonnet, 71% rostered.
Do you want to hear from Ryan?
I'm just looking right now.
Do you want what Ryan Grubb said about Charbonnet is 71% rostered. Do you want to hear from Ryan? I'm just looking right now. Do you want what Ryan Grubb said about Charbonnet?
Yeah.
I think Charb has a lot of the same skill sets,
I'm assuming, in comparison to Ken Walker.
He's an excellent receiver out of the backfield.
He's a very, very capable pass protector
and obviously a very powerful runner.
So I don't think there's anything in the game plan
that would change if Ken was unavailable.
So for us, it's business as usual.
So that's good.
Yeah.
Very.
Jake Ferguson mispractice.
Malik Willis is likely to start the next several weeks,
according to Ian Rappaport.
They get the Colts this week.
David Njoku out for this week.
Malik Neighbors popped up on the injury report.
It seems like he has a minor knee injury,
but we'll keep an eye on Malik Neighbors.
If he doesn't play, I wouldn't start Daniel Jones.
Romo Dunze is day-to-day with a sprained MCL.
Keenan Allen still out with the heel injury. If he doesn't play, I wouldn't start Daniel Jones. Romo Dunzey is day-to-day with a sprained MCL.
Keenan Allen's still out with the heel injury.
So, ooh.
Might be a Cole Komet week.
Hopefully a DJ Moore week.
Well, yeah.
Would DJ Moore be a must-start if both Keenan Allen and Dunzey,
and Dunzey's not going to play, but I can't imagine anyway, but if Keenan Allen's out also.
As a number two receiver, yes.
I think he's kind of toward the low end of that group.
Still starting guys like McLaurin,
Marvin Harrison, Garrett Wilson.
I would have started Waddle over him,
Devontae,
but he makes my top 24.
It's a tough matchup though.
Yeah, but should be a lot of targets.
Maybe even half of them will be near his body.
Right.
We're not expecting Marquise Brown.
We're not expecting T. Higgins.
Josh Palmer's limited with a knee injury.
Josh Downs remains limited in practice.
Palmer's on the most dropped list.
You can try to pick him up if you want.
Let's see.
The Saints have some injuries.
Tyron Matthew got a limited practice in yesterday,
but cornerback Marshawn Lattimore missed practice again,
and offensive tackle rookie Talese Fuaga,
he missed practice for the Saints.
He was awesome.
Yeah.
I mean, it was Carolina, so everyone was awesome,
but he was awesome in that first game.
It's a problem if he doesn't play, I think.
Jacksonville is renaming their stadium, Everbank Stadium,
to Trevor Bank Stadium for week one.
That's cool.
For Trevor Lawrence.
Devon Vele mispracticed.
Josh Reynolds was limited for the Broncos.
Dalton Schultz continues to mispractice.
Let's see.
Russell Wilson's getting closer.
And Roman Wilson practiced in full.
So we might see Roman Wilson.
Darius Slayton seems like he's got a chance to play this week.
Oh, Cleveland's starting offensive tackles,
they were limited.
They're at Jacksonville.
Cleveland's two best pass rushers,
Miles Garrett and Z'Darrius Smith,
they mispracticed,
but Garrett's injury is apparently not concerning,
according to Ian Rappaport.
Rams tight end Davis Allen mispractice.
That may not seem like a big deal to you,
but Colby Parkinson basically ran every route
among the tight ends for Rams last week.
Also got a great pass blocking grade from Pro Football Focus.
So they need him to block,
and he's going to be on the field a ton.
He's a streaming tight end.
It's a good call, Adam.
Oh, thank you.
Colby Parkinson.
We'll talk about that game later. Penne Sewell, right tackle for the Lions. He's mis to be on the field a ton. He's a streaming tight end. It's a good call, Adam. Oh, thank you. Kobe Parkinson. We'll talk about that game later.
Penne Sewell, right tackle for the Lions.
He's mispracticed.
And Emmanuel Forbes Jr. for the Commanders, a cornerback,
second-year cornerback.
He's going to have thumb surgery.
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I've got a philosophical rankings question for you guys.
Hmm.
I know we don't want to panic after week one.
What, buddy?
Me too.
Why did I call you buddy?
That was so weird.
It's like I'm talking to my kid.
All right, champ.
So philosophical rankings question. Why did you guys move Marvin Harrison and Drake London
to roughly 20th to 24th in your rankings after one week?
Do you view them that way rest of the season?
If you're making a...
Dave does the trade chart.
But London against the Eagles this week.
Harrison.
Why am I forgetting?
We're about to preview that.
The Rams.
Sorry.
I thought you were about to hit me with the music.
Oh, wow.
I totally forgot about that.
I got to figure that out.
You can't forget about it.
It's literally why people watch us.
But if we say like,
oh, don't panic on Harrison in London.
Why are they, you know,
low end number two receivers this week?
I mean,
I can tell you one guy that jumped ahead of them just by understandable
nature is Cooper cup,
you know?
So there's a few guys that just bumped them down.
Chris Godwin,
for example,
like to set up for him this week.
And I would start him over those guys if I had to make that choice.
It's,
you know,
look,
there's, there's been not panicking and how we have to rank players, you know.
So saying that they're top 20 is certainly not saying to sit them.
Yeah, but if I'm trying to make a trade offer for Harrison in London,
should I be viewing them as guys that are closer to 20 than 12?
Well, I mean, most people who
saw what happened last week or
see their game logs
are going to understand that they're
in a little bit of a
decline. Their value is a little bit
declined right now.
If you're trying to get them, you're trying to buy
them low. If you're trying to trade them because
you're concerned or you're trying to get something else
off somebody else's roster, you're not going to get max value for them right at this particular
moment. It's just realistic. I wrote about both of them and three other receivers that were
early round picks who disappointed in week one, kind of set a panic meter to them.
The only one that I'm even like sort of panicking on is London because he wasn't getting open consistently. And by the time he was getting open on most of his routes, uh, by the time he was getting
open on his routes, cousins was throwing in a different direction.
That kind of scared me a little bit along with the obvious, the offensive line was overmatched
against the sealers.
Cousins wasn't moving around very much.
Cousins didn't have the same type of velocity on his passes.
I'm a little nervous about London.
I wrote in the story, I would trade him straight up for any receiver
that had a round four or earlier ADP except for Puka.
And I would stand by that.
I don't think that he's going to be right back to being a top 10 wide receiver,
which is where we were drafting him.
Harrison made a really good point during the
week. He said that, uh, that he was thinking too much. And I almost, I'm kind of mad at myself for
not realizing that while I was watching him in real time. But when you think about playing while
you're playing, you're going to be slower. And toward the end of the game, the one thing that
I noticed on film was that he was moving a lot better. I saw a little bit more of his burst and
his acceleration. He was getting away from defenders. I saw a little bit more of his burst and his acceleration.
He was getting away from defenders.
It wasn't just on that one play that everybody saw
where he's got his arm up in the air either.
I've got a little bit more faith in Marvin Harrison,
so that's why I have Harrison ranked out of London this week.
Plus, I still believe in this Philadelphia pass defense.
I know that the Packers ripped him up.
Some of those throws were on plays where Love had to get out of the pocket,
and he did.
I don't know if Cousins will be able to do that.
I don't know if London will get open as often as Jaden Reed did or as Watson.
Well, Watson at the goal line, that's easy.
London could do that.
Bottom line is this.
I think they are number two receivers for now.
I invite everybody to read the story on CBS Sports
if you want to know what's up with Devontae Adams, Olave,
and one other receiver, Garrett Wilson,
what's up with them after the first week of the season
and whether or not you should panic on them?
All right, good stuff.
And honestly, I can relate to Marvin Harrison.
That is usually my problem is I am thinking too much.
Oh, my God.
It's mine.
You're also slow.
Yeah, that's true.
All right, one question for each game.
Tampa Bay is at Detroit.
Your dad's more successful than you? Let's see what else. God, everyone's more. All right, one question for each game. Tampa Bay is at Detroit. Your dad's more successful than you?
Let's see what else.
God, everyone's more successful than I am.
Dan?
Yep, Jamison Williams.
Okay, so we talked yesterday about guys like George Pickens and DK Metcalf,
and we don't love their matchups and this and that and blah, blah, blah.
Are you starting Jamison Williams over George Pickens and or DK Metcalf?
Yes.
Yep.
Really?
Yep.
I don't think you should.
Why not?
Well, okay.
Why don't you justify that?
Well, would you have started Jamison Williams
over DK Metcalf last week,
knowing how much, forget about the outcome,
knowing how much you were concerned about Patrick Stanton?
No, I wouldn't have.
But now, but I don't have a great answer for that.
I think the theme of the last five minutes is.
It's the game of the week, yeah.
And I totally get the Jamison Williams thing.
I was filibustering there for the game of the week. Hey,
I think that's the first time I've ever heard filibustering in a song.
Yeah, sorry. No, it's totally reasonable. I just had to try to get Dave to rationalize it. Sorry
about that. What I was going to say is over the last five minutes, the theme is what has been
seen cannot be unseen. And it works both ways. What we saw from Jamison Williams,
clearly a different receiver from what we saw the first two years.
How can you not include that as part of your evaluation as you move forward?
Yeah.
Okay.
We'll talk more about Jamison Williams later,
but you would start him over George Pickens and DK Metcalf.
And you're saying you would too.
I think I'm doing it.
I don't know about Metcalf,
but I feel like I'm on Ross St.
Brown could get 12 targets in this game.
You know,
that's my concern a little bit,
but yeah,
I mean,
they're down four members of their secondary from last week.
They're horrible.
Okay.
Starter sit Rashid Shaheed,
New Orleans at Dallas.
He's a number three receiver.
If you're stuck.
He's certainly somebody that should be on your roster,
should not be available on waivers in your league.
It's expected to be a high-scoring game.
And look, I know Dallas' defense played great last week.
I don't know how much of that was their defense is still going to be as dominant as it was
or how much of that was just the Browns,
no tackles, Deshaun sucks.
And this is what we should expect
from their offense moving forward.
So I don't want to have to start Rashid Shahid,
but I'm not afraid to start Shahid.
So three receivers in the flex, he's probably in your lineup.
Two receivers in the flex, he's probably not.
Shahid over Pickens or Metcalf?
No.
No, that's too far.
So Jamison, Pickens, Metcalf in some order, then Shahid.
All right.
Chargers at the Panthers.
Who's the best wide receiver in this game?
Ladd McConkie.
I think it's McConkie,
but I don't know if I'd feel good starting any wide receiver in this game.
Rams at Cardinals.
Are we going back to Marvin Harrison Jr.?
Yes.
Number two receiver?
Unless your team is stacked. Like, I'm not starting Jamison over Marvin Harrison yet. Yes. Number two receiver. Unless your team is stacked.
Like I'm not starting Jamison over Marvin Harrison yet.
No,
but God,
when you mentioned him,
I'd start IU and neighbors over Marvin Harrison,
start a lobby over him,
but they're all top 20 guys.
Okay.
Okay.
Giants at Washington.
Who's a better flex,
Brian Robinson Jr.
Or Terry McLaurin.
Robinson. I'm going to be or Terry McLaurin? Robinson.
I'm going to be with you on that one.
Robinson.
Do you watch Jaden Daniels, Dave?
Yes.
Horrible.
Well, in what way?
Well, throwing the ball more than five yards downfield,
he was just so inaccurate until the very end of the game
when the Bucs were up by three scores
and really not...
That's when they were also hurt, too.
Yeah, they got hurt throughout the game.
I don't know. That wasn't Jaden Daniels.
I mean, maybe first-game jitters or something.
No question it was first-game jitters.
Missed some layups.
I still like what I
saw from him.
He had McLaurin
open for a 70-yard touchdown, overthrew him by
about two yards. And then there was another play where McLaurin was streaking downfield. It would
have been a 53 yard touchdown. All he had to do was keep his eyes up. But Jane Daniels, the default
was running every time he was pressured and even a little bit pressured at him. He took off and ran.
We love that. If we've got Jane Daniels on our fantasy team. We hate it if we've got Terry McLaurin on our fantasy team, but against the Giants, I listen,
I don't know what to tell you about this giant's pass rush, man. They've got two good players and
neither of them could do a lick of damage against the Vikings. And I think that Washington will be
able to keep Daniels upright in a fairly clean pocket most of the time. Oh yeah. And that's
going to help McLaurin this week.
It's going to hurt Daniel's rushing numbers,
but I think it's going to help McLaurin.
Okay.
No, I don't care how poorly Daniel's threw the ball.
I mean, he's a must start this week.
But, yeah, he didn't look like himself.
San Francisco's at Minnesota.
Start or sit Aaron Jones?
It's probably difficult to sit Aaron Jones,
knowing the landscape of running backs,
but this is not going to be an easy matchup for him.
Brian Robinson Jr. or Aaron Jones?
B-Rob.
I do have Jones as a low-end RB, too.
I think he's going to have a decent week.
I think the receptions will help him.
Sorry.
Atlanta at Philadelphia.
Drake London or Devante Smith?
Smith.
Smith. Do you agree with
my decision to make Atlanta Philadelphia the last
game, meaning it has the
fewest tough calls for fantasy
managers?
Aside from London and Pitts, probably
yeah. What about the Chargers
Panthers?
I mean, I feel like the wide receivers Panthers? Um, I mean,
I feel like the wide receivers are,
are kind of tough,
but I guess not.
You guys kind of threw it.
I could have made that the last one,
I guess.
Yeah.
But Dobbins is interesting.
Let's beat the waiver wire real quick.
We have a,
I'm not going to do as much on this show with beat the waiver wire.
Cause we have FFT express where we're dedicating a lot of time to it there.
If you need a quarterback for next week,
maybe you lost Tua, well, you can go to Geno Smith,
who is facing the Dolphins
next week. Derek Carr gets
Philadelphia. Superflex
leagues, Drew Locke and Jameis
Winston. I mean, the fact that the NFL
is going to talk to the accuser of
Deshaun Watson,
I don't know. I'm not saying there
will be a suspension, but I don't think we can just simply rule it
out. But Drew Locke,
Jameis Winston, if you're in a super flex league,
Mike on the Gino front, Miami
in week three, then at Detroit
and then versus the Giants. Yeah, it's
very good. So three windows. If
Walker is out next week,
the Dolphins run defense is abysmal.
They were so they were rough. Yeah.
Yeah. Their past defense
numbers wise is held up. Uh, Alexander Madison, 54% roster tank Bigsby, 48%. Again, I'm just
going to give quick hits here. Josh Palmer down to 68% rostered. Jerry Judy has the giants next
week. He's 66% rostered. If you want one of those Rams receivers, you didn't completely miss the
boat. You still have a chance to get to Marcus Robinson and Tyler Johnson. And then Colby Parkinson, 40% rostered. This one is, I would say,
a deep league stash, but we talked about how the roster percentages should probably be flipped for
the Packers guys because Tucker Kraft is running all the routes and he's 5% rostered and you could
still get the Saints tight ends if you want. All right, let's go to Tampa Bay at Detroit.
I just want to read a few odd stats.
Scoring was actually up in week one.
The games averaged 45.8 points, the highest mark in three years for week one.
But 35 touchdown passes were the fewest for week one since 2006.
And for the first time since 1989,
they were more rushing touchdowns than passing touchdowns in week one.
Week one games averaged 376.6 passing yards,
which were the fewest for the opening week since 1996.
Wow.
From CBS sports.com.
So running was in vogue in week one.
And I guess so far in week two,
Tampa Bay is at Detroit.
Here we go.
Role of the game.
You know, we like to look at players' roles.
Chris Godwin, 53.2% slot rate in week one.
It's a little bit lower than his prime seasons,
but it's close,
and last year it was 33.3%,
so Chris Godwin.
Welcome back.
Yep, way up in the slot.
Great stuff. Slump of the, way up in the slot. Great stuff.
Slump of the game.
This one's surprising.
In his last seven games, going back to last year,
Jameer Gibbs has one run longer than 18 yards.
It did come against this team.
It was a 31-yard touchdown run in the postseason against the Bucs.
All right, Dave, Tampa Bay's at Detroit.
Are there tough calls in this one?
You might think there is with the quarterbacks,
but I think it's only if it's Mayfield or golf.
Like if those are your choices, which one do you go with?
I'm going to lean toward Baker Mayfield.
I think that he's going to have to throw just a little bit more.
I still have some questions about Rashad White
and his effectiveness as a runner.
And that could just push more opportunities into Baker Mayfield's hands.
Should be eye scoring game.
I guess Jamison Williams is still going to be a tough call for some people.
It's an upside play, but we saw the nice volume last week.
I think he's going to stick around.
I think he's going to be a big part of that offense moving forward.
Not that it's going to be a terrible thing for Laporta and St.
Brown, but they might lose a sliver of their target chair, obviously.
Montgomery is still a number two fantasy quarterback.
The person in this game of significance, I would say.
But Montgomery is always like somebody just asked,
Brian Robinson or David Montgomery.
There's going to be circumstances, clearly,
where you're sitting some of these players.
Jamison Williams is probably the most prominent one.
But if you have them most likely,
I would be surprised if any of their start percentages is lower than 80%
aside from Williams and Baker.
Sure.
High scoring game.
Take chances on the players.
Baker and golf.
Yes.
Their,
their start percentage may not be above 80%.
What about Kate?
Huh?
Wait,
hold on.
Did you answer this question?
Montgomery or Brian Robinson?
Robinson.
Robinson.
Okay.
And Rashad White or Jordan Mason?
Half PPR.
Assuming that McCaffrey is out, I would go with Mason.
I think I would too if it's half PPR.
You're starting these quarterbacks,
Burrow and, or sorry, Overburrow,
Goff and Baker Overburrow?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Purdy?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah, this should be a good one.
Baker, Goff, Purdy.
Godwin or Jamo?
Godwin.
You asked that. I'd go with Godwin.
I did?
When did I ask that?
When you were setting up and you were filibustering.
Oh, I don't remember anything with that.
That was a blur.
We got a question.
Jamison Williams or Amari Cooper, PPR?
Jamison for me.
Me too.
Brian Robinson or...
Oh, that's a...
Not this game.
Sorry.
We'll come back to that.
Yeah, I'm trying to just read questions on this game.
Start Tank Dell or David Montgomery?
Dell and PPR.
Nice name there, Hugh.
Okay.
So we talked about Baker.
We talked about Goff.
Yeah, we're starting Gibbs.
White's more or less going to be a start,
but if you have
Jordan Mason, fine.
Okay, David Montgomery then.
J.K. Dobbins or Montgomery?
Not even close for me. I've got Dobbins over Montgomery then. J.K. Dobbins or Montgomery? Not even close for me.
Dobbins?
I've got Dobbins over Montgomery too.
Okay.
Report of bouncing back, we hope.
St. Brown bouncing back.
Anything else from this game?
Am I missing anything?
The defenses don't.
If you use Jake Bates in week one,
make sure that he's actually active in their kicker in week
two okay yeah i feel like i'm short changing it but no no need to linger here these are starts
start them maybe i could a few more jameson williams if we have anything here we go
jameson williams tony pollard or drake london jamo london pollard london williams pollard Drake London. JMO. London. Pollard.
London Williams Pollard.
Jalen Hurts or Baker Mayfield.
We got to go Hurts, right?
Yeah, I'm going Hurts.
OK.
All right.
And that's it for that game.
Let's go to the commercial break.
We'll be right back with the Saints and the Cowboys after this break on FFT.
Saints are at the Cowboys.
What do we think?
Are we going to get a game here?
Saints going to show up?
Yes.
I hope so.
I'm a little nervous about the offensive line.
This is a massive step up in class
for New Orleans front five.
It's one thing to dominate the Panthers.
It's another thing to take on Parsons and Lawrence
in this Cowboys front with Mike Zimmer
clearly in his bag. I do like what I saw from the Saints last week as far as playing off of
play action or throwing the ball off of play action, using motion, throwing deep, all huge
improvements without, I'm not giving you the numbers, but trust me on this one, all huge
improvements after what they did last year.
And so if they can keep that up and if they can protect Derek Carr,
yeah, we're going to get a game for sure.
Yeah.
My stat of the game was that the Panthers,
who played the Saints last week,
had the second lowest pressure rate in week one.
The Cowboys had the fourth highest pressure rate,
according to true media.
So, yes, it will be a step up.
Sure.
And to be fair on that,
the Cowboys took on the Browns without two of their starting tackles or without both their starting tackles.
So that obviously adds to the pressure.
Stat of the game number two would be about the Cowboys passing game.
Brandon Cooks caught a touchdown in five of the seven home games he played in last year.
And Dak Prescott scored twenty one point nine or more fantasy points and six point per passing touchdowns in all but one home game in 2023.
So, Jamie, we talked about golf in Mayfield being better than Burrow, being better than Purdy.
Are they better than Dak?
And are you starting Brandon Cooks?
I do like Brandon Cooks this week.
I think, again, Ferguson's injury could even make it a little bit more of a boost for Cooks if he's out.
So seven targets last week, four for 40 and touchdown.
Uh,
this is the team that drafted him.
He's played them three times in his career.
Two of those games.
He's been great.
Score touchdown to them.
It's been a while,
but he's never done it with Dallas.
Um,
you mentioned Dak Dax last five home games over 33 PPR,
33,
33 fancy points per game on average,
his last five home openers. he's been fantastic as well.
The one that he didn't have a good game was when he broke his thumb.
So he's good in this spot.
So yeah, Dak should have a big game.
It's a step up in competition for the Dallas defense also
because of what Dave said.
They played a Browns team. I know the Saints offensive line is a little banged up right now too said, they played a Browns team.
I know the Saints offensive line is a little banged up right now too,
but they played a Browns team that was banged up on the offensive line.
And I think at this point, Derek Carr is better than Deshaun Watson.
So we'll see how that goes from an offensive standpoint for New Orleans
and a defensive standpoint for Dallas.
But yes, I think Dak's, not to divert from the question,
but Dak's a great start.
Do you have Dak over both Mayfield and golf?
I believe so.
I've got him sandwiched between the two.
I've got Mayfield.
I think I have Mayfield Dak golf in my rankings.
So it's a close call for me.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't say it's bad to start Dak over Baker,
especially if there's no Marshawn Lattimore in that St.
Secondary question from the chat, Dak or Kyler. start Dak over Baker, especially if there's no Marshawn Lattimore in that Saints secondary.
Question from the chat, Dak or Kyler?
Kyler.
I do have Kyler higher.
Question from the chat, Cooks, JSN, or Jaden Reed?
I think it's got to be Cooks.
I know I don't have him ranked as high as I'm saying right now, but nine
touchdowns in his last 13 games,
going back to last year,
clearly in the number two guy.
And Jamie,
I don't think you mentioned this.
The Cowboys aren't really great at running the ball,
or at least they weren't against Cleveland.
It's Cleveland.
No run defense is supposed to be good,
but it's,
it's still a humongous question mark.
Dowdle disappointed.
Zeke is Zeke.
They don't have a solution there.
So this might be a game where Dak has to throw.
This might happen for the rest of the season where Dak just has to throw like
crazy.
They also, I do, I'm sorry.
I do have Dak.
I have Dak, nine, Baker, 10, Goffala.
Okay.
Dak, okay.
And so we talked about this on Tuesday with the waiver wire, but, you know, Cooks versus Shahid was a nice debate that we had there.
Who do you have higher in this game?
I have Shahid higher.
I'll go back to what I said Tuesday.
Short-term Cooks, long-term Rashid.
Okay.
Yeah.
Good with Olave this week?
Good with Olave.
Again, hopefully competitive game.
You know, much more competitive. It should be with Olave. Again, hopefully competitive game.
You know, much more competitive.
It should be much more competitive.
Yeah, I know.
It's a statement game, I think, for the Saints.
They don't have to win, but be competitive.
The Cowboys, they destroy teams.
You know, they play so many uncompetitive games,
but the Saints hopefully can hang in there. Yeah, I mean, look, he threw 23 times.
Derek Carr did last week.
He missed on four attempts.
He threw for three touchdowns at 200 yards.
You're probably looking at at least 10 more attempts.
Are you starting him?
Are you considering him as a streamer?
He's a decent 2QB super flex start this week.
He's not a must-start guy in a one-quarterback league.
We're not there yet.
But, I mean, he has another game like that,
where he's north of 20 fantasy points. Then he's going to be in that conversation, He's not a must-start guy in a one-quarterback league. We're not there yet. But, I mean, he has another game like that, you know,
where he's north of 20 fantasy points. Then he's going to be in that conversation,
especially for the Tua and Jordan Love managers.
All right, here's a question from the chat.
We'll make it kind of a season-long discussion, I guess.
But from Aaron, any chance Rico Dowdle takes over the Cowboys' backfield?
I hope so.
Absolutely within the realm of possibilities.
Brandon Cooks or Javante Williams, PPR?
Cooks.
I think I'd definitely go Cooks.
Okay.
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time wearing it. Let's see it. All I see is that it's blue. Yeah, it's blue. It's got this kind of
trim, you know, it looks like pajamas. It does. That's the thing. I, I put it on. I'm like,
or like you're
you're you're like one of the uh extras in star trek
like you're the guy that's gonna get killed when they go to a different planet right right
i don't really get that reference i've never seen it but i definitely can't wear this out i feel
it's too are you a trekkie jamie i mean i watched it when I was a kid. I've never watched Star Trek. I was always Star Wars.
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Good sign.
Alvin Kamara
is starting
in PPR. In non
PPR, you don't have to start him.
You kind of do. When you, listen, since part of the you don't have to start him. You kind of do.
Listen, since part of the bet is you have to go to school to pick up your kids, don't wear that shirt.
Look at this.
With the mustache.
Go ahead, Debo.
Throw that up there.
Oh, my God.
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It is that.
Oh, that's terrible.
What does he say?
Live long and prosper?
Oh, no.
That is amazing.
The same shirt as this guy.
That guy kind of looks like Shafi T.
He does look like him.
Oh, no, this is terrible.
Shaper on Star Trek?
I got to return this.
Okay, anyway.
Camara, Olave.
What do we think about the tight ends for the Saints?
I think Taysom Hill is a must start.
He had five carries in that game.
And you noted this, four of them were early in the game
when the game was competitive.
So there's touchdown potential if they get near the goal line.
I think they'll have a couple more catches.
Just only had one in the first game.
Jawan Johnson is a good streamer you know when when you when you get to know foster moreau and the way that this offense is going to operate i think
it's going to be tight and friendly i was a little disappointed that moreau was playing ahead of joan
johnson last week because i do think johnson's a better player so now he gets an opportunity to
prove himself and in a game where they could be chasing points i think the targets will be up so
he's practiced in full,
by the way,
I didn't see this.
I'm sorry.
Did he clear a concussion protocol?
Not yet,
but he practiced,
he practiced in full.
So that's,
that's a good sign for Foster Morrow,
which is a bad sign for Jawan Johnson.
Potentially.
Potentially.
Do you like Hill over Johnson?
Oh, yes.
And I've got commit over Johnson.
Are you,
you like that or no?
I'm not there yet,
but we'll see if Keenan Allen's up.
No, because Gerald Everett is too much of a factor, no?
Yes.
Well, if Keenan Allen's out, you're going to see a lot of Kemet.
Okay, so by the way, people are saying I couldn't wait to wear my Halloween costume.
It's so funny.
That's great.
So what about Jake Ferguson?
If he plays, is he obviously better than the Saints guys or no?
Yes.
Not Taysom.
I still start Taysom over him just because I'm a little concerned with the knee.
Yeah.
What about Isaiah Likely versus all these guys?
Ahead of him.
Okay.
Likely ahead of Hill.
Both guys ahead of Johnson.
And we're still sitting the Cowboys running backs?
Yes.
Until they boldly go where no man has gone
before.
You can't trust them.
This is great.
Oh, man.
I can't believe. You know, this is what happens
when I go shopping without my wife. She never would have
let me buy this shirt.
Chargers at the Panthers.
Stat of the game.
This game features the fifth and sixth
most dropped... I can't take you seriously.
This is what made you not take him seriously?
It's worse than Dan's shirt.
It's not that bad. I mean, come on. It's like a normal shirt.
I don't think anything
beats Dan's shirt. Oh, no. Come on. It's like a normal shirt. I don't think anything beats Dan's shirt.
Oh, no.
Come on.
That is so not fair.
All right.
It's that of the game for Chargers and Panthers.
This game features the fifth and sixth most dropped wide receivers in CBS Sports Leagues.
Deontay Johnson is down to 82% rostered, and Josh Palmer is 68% rostered.
These overreactions? Everybody saw Bryce Young in week one and did the SpongeBob meme.
I'm a head out on,
on this offense and they bailed on Deontay Johnson.
I don't want to start either of these guys.
Yeah.
But do you want to pick them up?
If you saw Johnson Palmer makes sense still,
because I don't think it's crystal clear that McConkie is the number one guy
when they have to pass. It's just, it's going to be a little bit sparing when they have to pass. They didn't need
to pass that much against Vegas. They're not going to have to pass this that much this week.
And then they play Pittsburgh next week, week four, Kansas city at home. I'll take the over
on 30 pass attempts for Justin Herbert there. These, these, these receivers are like Klingons.
Okay, okay.
Chargers running backs are the real story here.
Jamie's got Dobbins in the top
12. You have him around 12.
Jamie's leaving Dobbins in the top 12. You have him around 12. Jamie is leaving the show.
I wish I knew Star Trek better.
We'd be able to make all kinds of jokes while he's gone, while he's gone.
The thing about they're naming the stadium in Jacksonville after Trevor Lawrence.
Well, he has a partnership with Ever Bank, whatever.
So it's Trevor Bank or whatever.
Well, you know who helped make that happen?
Who?
Kyle!
Okay. Dave, you have Dobbinsth while jamie has him 12th so i guess he he had a couple of bad
runs last week but for the most part he looked like his old self um the one play where the
raiders should have had him down after one yard and he he broke out of a tackle, sped away for, I want to say, like 46 yards.
He had two other explosive runs.
He had the touchdown.
I don't see.
Here's the stat that I found.
If you take away his two biggest runs, it was over 100 yards.
Adam's taking Jamie off the stream.
No, not me.
Oh, Jamie took himself off?
Yeah.
This is great. right go ahead so
you take away let me get myself together all right you take away the two big runs by dobbins
and it was over 100 yards combined on those two runs he still averaged more than a yard per carry
than gus edwards so unless jim harbaugh's glasses are just fogged up can't see what he's looking at with the film, then we should see more of Dobbins than Gus this week.
And it's Carolina lost their best run.
They gave up over two yards before contact last week.
I think the charges run game is on a different planet.
All right.
JK Dobbins or Zach Charbonnet if Ken Walker's out.
Dobbins.
I might say, I think I'd say Charbonnet because I think he'd see more touches.
J.K. Dobbins or Derek Henry.
Dobbins.
I'll take Henry.
Gus Edwards or a Cowboys running back?
Gus.
Definitely Gus over Rico.
Robert Thomas saying that this show is boldly going
where no show has gone before.
I like that.
Jaguar Stadium.
I don't know where this show is going.
Great enterprise.
These are funny.
We've got some good ones.
Okay, so other than Dobbins,
is there anyone that you want to start in this game?
Oh, sorry.
Last thing on Dobbins.
I know I mentioned this before,
but he played every third down.
He's also their third down back.
Okay, is there anyone you want to start in this game
other than J.K. Dobbins?
Want to start?
Chargers defense, Cameron Dicker.
Gus over Chuba Hubbard?
Yes.
Okay.
Deontay Johnson.
Well, I think you already said that McConkie is your highest ranked receiver in this game, right?
Yes.
So McConkie then or...
Nah, whatever. Whatever. What am i doing here just fishing okay rams let's go to the rams and the cardinals stat of the game we need some help just call scotty rams and cardinals arizona this
is according to movoto.com here's your stat of the the game. Arizona was good to music in the 90s.
The Meat Puppets, Jimmy Eat World, and the Gin Blossoms, among others, were all from Arizona.
Go ahead, Dave, rank them.
Meat Puppets, Jimmy Eat World, Gin Blossoms.
Gin Blossoms will be at the top.
Yeah.
I think Jimmy Eat World is next, and then the Meat Puppets last.
I only know one Meat Puppets song.
I wasn't a huge fan of that song.
Gin Blossoms are, I would say, the most underrated band of the 90s.
Love them.
Starter set, Matthew Stafford.
Low-end starter behind Baker and Goff.
Yep.
Okay.
Starter set, Kyler Murray.
Still a must-start guy.
Agreed.
Okay.
Kyron Williams is a start.
Here I am in the middle of the show
looking for famous Star Trek quotes.
What do we think about James Conner this week?
James Conner was great.
Yeah, that was amazing.
You saved it for Conner.
That would have been awesome.
What do you think about James Connor this week, guys?
Must start.
Yeah.
He looked great last week.
They used him a bunch.
Surprising amount of targets, all things considered in the passing game.
Low end RB1 for me.
He is a RB2 for me.
I would start Dobbins over him.
I would start Robinson over him. I would start robinson over him i would start
drum ford over him but still a good starter look at this comment dave matthews band is the most
underrated band of the 90s are you kidding that'd be like saying dan marino is the most underrated
quarterback of the 90s like come on the dave matthews band underrated uh james connor or david montgomery uh connor connor over montgomery james connor or malik neighbors
i believe i have connor over neighbors this week all right last one james connor or dobbins
i'll take dobbins for jamie connor for dave uh Dave uh Marvin Harrison is a number two receiver but
we're gonna start him Cooper Cup is he like wide receiver one this week yes uh for me he's number
four okay start Cooper Cup so uh Demarcus Robinson and Tyler Johnson who do you prefer
did any of them crack the top did either of them crack the top 36? He's neither of them are in our top 48 consensus rankings. I think Jamie might
have put DeMarcus like at 48, not to speak for you, Jamie, I'm sorry for doing that, but he's
in that range. Yeah. Just something that I noticed. I also wrote up how I think the Rams could go
about replacing the Kua studied what they said. Uh. I think we're going to see Tyler Johnson on the field a lot.
I'm in two leagues, 14 teams, triple flex,
with a bunch of other fantasy nerds.
I talk about this league from time to time.
I have Nakua in both of these leagues.
I had to overspend on Fab to get Tyler Johnson on my teams
because there's literally nothing on the waiver wire.
He could have a game like Khalil Shakir had last night.
So I'm not saying he's going to go out there and be great.
There's probably more upside for DeMarcus Robinson,
but I believe that it'll be Tyler Johnson playing the Nakua role.
However,
if I'm in a keeper league now,
because I think winning,
or if I'm in a dice,
like what the hell,
I'll say both Jordan Whittington needs to be rostered he barely played in week one but he had he had a jet sweep carry for a
touchdown that got called back and that's just an example of the coaches recognizing what he can do
as far as speed goes and so if he gets an opportunity to play I don't think he'll play
much at first but he could end up he had a camp. He could end up being a part of this offense as a short-term fix for Nakua.
If Tyler Johnson, who's fizzled out over his entire career, fizzles out again.
This is, this is the magic of Sean McVay and Matthew Stafford that we're going to see,
because I think one week we're going to get a lot of Kyron Williams and the run game and
still Cooper cup.
I think when we were going to get a lot of Colby Parkinson and
Whittington and Cooper Cup,
we're going to get one week of DeMarcus
Robinson and Tyler Johnson and Cooper
Cup. So there's going to be one constant
and then we'll see some other things that
play here. So I don't think the
Puka Nakua role
matters unless it's Puka Nakua.
I'm starting
DeMarcus Robinson in at least two leagues,
and they're both three-receiver PPR.
Maybe one's a 14-team
two-receiver PPR league, but
not a 12-team two-receiver league.
That's no, but
I'm starting Robinson because I lost
Puka in one league, and the other one's
kind of deep, but I just think
he'll get...
Look, I was dead wrong about Josh Palmer last week,
although Palmer did drop a touchdown.
But I was like, yeah, you throw Palmer out there,
you should get 10 or more PPR points.
I think I even said 12 for him.
That's kind of how I feel about probably both these guys.
I feel like they're not going to kill you.
You know, so I don't know.
Well, one might.
It might, it might.
But they throw so much.
I just want this game to be competitive.
I want this game to be competitive and high-scoring, obviously.
But they can run on the Cardinals.
That's the thing.
Like, this could be a huge Cardinal game.
Can they?
Hey, man, the Cardinals' run defense was a lot better than the Dolphins' run defense, right?
And the offensive line is an absolute mess for the Dolphins.
Yeah, but this is a McVay thing.
No, they will run.
This is going to be a tough one
for McVay to come back. They might be down
four starters in this game up front.
Wow.
We have some questions here. Colby Parkinson
or Jake Ferguson?
If Fergie plays, it's Ferguson.
Yes. Kyler Murray or
Jaden Daniels?
I'd go Daniels.
I would go with Daniels.
Kobe Parkinson or Evan Ingram?
Ev.
I'm close on these two,
but Ingram still.
Who, Bastank,
is the real underrated band?
That's a great riff.
All right, I'll see if we have any more questions for this game.
Okay, there's more to talk about here, I think.
So who's a better flex, James Conner or Marvin Harrison?
Conner.
Yes.
Marvin Harrison or Rashid Shahid is a question here.
Oh, see, we're not going there with Marvin Harrison after one game.
Yeah, all right.
Kobe Parkinson or Taysom Hill in PPR?
Taysom.
Tay.
Sorry, clicked the wrong thing there.
And Greg Dortch, six catches, 47 yards on eight targets.
Any interest here?
Same thing he said on Tuesday.
Like if you need 10, 11 PPR points,
he's probably going to be in that range most weeks.
If you need 15 to 18 PPR points,
you just better pray he scores a touchdown.
But he's going to be among the target leaders consistently.
He's going to be a factor consistently.
I think he's just one of those guys
that you can keep on the end of your bench
or if you're desperate,
you start.
All right.
We got this question.
We'll end on this.
Trevor says,
pick two,
Nico Collins,
Marvin Harrison,
Rishi rice.
You're sitting Marvin.
Yeah.
There's one where I'll sit Marvin,
right?
He's a,
he's a start,
but he's not a top 12 guy.
Start Trey McBride,
sit the DST,
start Kyron Williams, and let's go to the Giants and the Commanders.
Updated stat of the game.
Now, Washington has allowed 75 yards or a touchdown to 30 wide receivers in their last 19 games.
So, holy moly.
They were horrible against receivers last year,
horrible in week one against Tampa Bay.
Now, here come the Giants.
We are going to sit Daniel Jones.
Any interest in Devin Singletary this
week?
Not a
bad flex.
He's outside of
my top 24. I do have him
ranked ahead of
DeAndre Swift, Javante Williams,
Gus Edwards, Chase Brown,
Alexander Madison, Austin Eckler.
Interesting. Higher than I thought.
Yeah, I think the matchup is decent enough for Singletary.
And listen, the game got out of hand early last week for the Giants,
and so Singletary didn't get a lot of work.
I wonder if they give them a little bit more and have the chance to give them a little bit more this week.
The work in the passing game should matter here.
I mean, as we saw last week, you know, big game for Rashad White.
And by the way, you know, I talked to earlier,
we talked about how Jaden Daniels looked.
One thing Jaden Daniels did a lot was check down.
I know we're talking about the Giants here, but just on the other side,
even if Brian Robinson's coming off the field on third down,
the catches could still be higher than we thought.
The amount of targets is, Eckler.
Yeah, and just a lot of checkdowns, wide receiver screens,
a lot of really short passes for Jaden Daniels.
Which is good for a running quarterback.
It's rare for a running quarterback.
Well, he obviously didn't look very comfortable
throwing the ball downfield.
Malik Neighbors had five catches, 66 yards on seven targets.
He is in your top 18.
He is 29th for Heath.
If you've listened to the show for the last four months,
you'll get it.
But this is hopefully, you know, this is the matchup.
If neighbor struggles here,
it'd be more like if Jones struggles here.
I sent Dave a picture on my phone
of Malik neighbors like wide open,
open at like the two yard line.
And Daniel Jones has a clear path to throw to him and he runs.
It's just, it was unbelievable.
All right.
So start, start him.
So over Marvin happened to both of the top rookie wide receivers in week one.
Yeah.
I mean, this is a little bit, yeah, this is a little bit different than that play, but
a little bit, but Jaden Daniels, who are the quarterbacks you're starting over Jaden Daniels
this week?
The big four,
Alan Richardson,
Jackson hurts and my homes.
Yep.
Wait,
the big,
Oh,
it should be the big four.
Alan Jackson hurts in the home.
He's six for me behind the,
the four that we drafted first and Richardson and Richardson.
Yeah.
That's what I should have said.
I just read the top four names in my QB record.
You guys are very high on Brian Robinson.
We've talked a lot about him, but he is definitely a start this week.
Let's see if we have some questions about this game.
PPR, Singletary, Tony Pollard, or Christian Kirk?
Pollard.
I'd start.
I think I'd start Pollard.
We're starting neighbors over Jamison Williams. We're starting Daniels over Goard. We're starting neighbors over Jamison Williams.
We're starting Daniels over golf.
We're starting neighbors over Marvin Harrison.
Chad thinks neighbors is going to go wild this week.
I hope you're right.
I hope he's healthy.
Obviously,
um,
Brian Robinson or JK Dobbins.
We'll ask this again,
but it's from Trevor.
Oh,
he's not missing the game against Daniels.
I know.
Yeah.
They're boys.
Uh,
I've got Robinson over Dobbins.
Dobbins.
Okay.
Jerome Ford or Brian Robinson PPR?
Ford.
I mean, you can't get a better matchup
from a pass-catching running back than this.
They were number one in most receptions
allowed to running backs last year,
and they started off horrible against the Dolphins.
It's so funny because the Bills in two games,
the
Dolphins
running backs in one game have almost
as many receptions
as the leader, which is the Bills.
Oh, wow. You're talking about
Ford against the Jaguars, by the way. Great matchup
for him. How about
Eckler versus Singletary? Who would you guys start?
Singletary. Yeah, Devin. And then Singletary? Who would you guys start? Singletary.
Oh yeah.
Devin.
And then here's Terry McLaurin.
Are we starting McLaurin over Drake London or Marvin Harrison?
Not there yet,
but he's got an amazing history against the giants.
He's played them nine times in his career.
Eight of them,
he scored at least 13 PPR points.
Three of his last five,
he has either six catches or 90 yards.
He's averaged 17.5 ppr points per game in nine
career games against the giants and the giants are worse now in the secondary than they've been so
uh we'll see if deontay banks will probably shadow him we'll see how that goes but
mclaurin's top 24 for you guys and zacherts is a flyer streamer. Washington's DST is also a streaming option.
Dave is very low on them.
Because they're not good.
San Francisco is... Neither is Daniel Jones, though.
So bad.
San Francisco is at Minnesota.
If Jones plays poorly this week,
do you move on
to Drew Locke immediately?
They should.
Brian Dable?
I think they should, too.
They should.
That's why I mentioned him earlier.
Easy matchup. Just saw an update here, by the That's why I mentioned him earlier. Easy matchup.
Just saw an update here, by the way.
Coach Mike McCarthy on 105.3 The Fan.
Jake Ferguson, he's doing well.
He did a little more yesterday.
We'll see how he feels this morning and set a plan.
He's getting close.
San Francisco's at Minnesota.
Stat of the game.
Over the last three-plus seasons now,
so the last three seasons and week one,
George Kittle has played 55 games, including the playoffs,
and he has 40 or fewer yards in 29 of those 55 games.
He has 70 or more yards in 20 games,
so six times out of his last 55 games,
George Kittle has been somewhere between 41 and 69 yards.
He is so weird, and he hit the 40 mark last week.
But, you know, he's a tight end. You're starting
him. All right. Let's talk about Purdy, Jamie, just outside the top 12. I think he's actually
16th for you. 15th for Dave, 13th for Heath. Why, why aren't we more excited about Purdy this week?
I just think you, you got to get those two to three touchdowns for him.
And there are other quarterbacks I like better. I don't have a problem starting Purdy if he's your guy that you started
last week. But I just
don't see the ceiling in this matchup
against Minnesota.
And he was bad against them last year.
Yes, he was. Well, I think
he had a good game
except the interceptions. But 21 for
30, 272 yards.
That was the play.
Yeah, but he was there for 272 yards. It wasn't that? Yeah, but it was 272 yards.
It wasn't that bad.
Wasn't that one of the games he didn't have Trent Williams or Debo Samuel in?
Ooh, I don't know.
I don't know.
I mean, that would factor into him not being good.
It was the back-to-back poop games for him where he played Cleveland and Minnesota.
Oh, then yes.
Then Debo was definitely out for that game.
So, anywho, Purdy outside the top 12,
obviously Baker, Goff over him.
How about Fields or Purdy?
Purdy.
I think I might have Fields.
That one I might have to switch.
I think Purdy's better than Fields.
Hey, let's talk about Jordan Mason, Dave.
You're the low guy on him.
You have him 18th.
Jamie has him 10th.
I don't think this is a slam dunk matchup,
but then again, he went up against the Jets in week one
and absolutely pulverized them.
The offensive line played great.
He played great.
Am I a little low on him?
Yeah, I think I am.
I think he's a definite start.
I view him just a little bit more as an RB2 than an RB1.
Okay.
Yeah, so this is one that's on Sunday,
obviously when we try to,
when we find out if McCaffrey's out,
although is this a four o'clock game or one o'clock?
I hope it's one.
It's one o'clock.
Excellent.
Noon local.
Yeah,
there we go.
So which 49ers wide receiver do you prefer?
Ebo,
especially if McCaffrey's up.
I'll say Debo as well.
But I think Ayuk's back in play.
If you had the opportunity to sit him last week, that worked out for you.
He was close to scoring a touchdown and making you look silly.
I think that he can have a bounce back game.
I like him this week.
Ayuk, Debo, sorry. Of these these two are you starting them over london and harrison yes yes both of them okay start yeah they're
both i've got them both pretty high this week kittle or likely kittle george sit darn old
keep an eye on him if he has another game, we might have to pay attention to it. Aaron Jones behind Jordan Mason, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yes, yes.
Aaron Jones or Tony Pollard?
I'll take Jones.
Jones, slightly over Pollard.
Mason is about to go to warp speed, says someone here.
Let's see.
Aaron Jones or Calvin Ridley in the flex?
PPR.
Jones. Jones.
And start Jefferson sit nailer,
right?
So I haven't officially seen that.
No.
Would you, would you sit Addison though?
If he played,
I was,
did I shortchange this game or are we good?
I think we're pretty good.
How about,
I mean,
Johnny month, we didn't spend a lot of time pretty good. How about, I mean, Johnny Munt,
we didn't spend a lot of time on him.
How about neighbors versus the 49ers receivers?
Uh,
I would go Debo neighbors.
I,
I've got,
I,
you go from Andy Bo.
So neighbors is last there.
Okay.
San Francisco's DST.
Start them up.
We are going to take one last break.
We have one game left.
I want to tell you about the roles that we saw for Devontae Smith and Kyle Pitts.
Very interesting stuff.
We'll be right back on FFT.
Monday Night Football, Falcons at the Eagles.
Your roles of the game.
Devontae Smith had a career-high 54.1% slot rate
and the fourth-lowest average route depth of his career.
So we were wondering, Kellen Moore, slot receivers, all that.
It's Devontae Smith, at least in week one.
54.1%, that's pretty high.
Kyle Pitts, we wanted him to be used a little bit differently.
So much downfield, always lined up as a wide receiver.
Not always, but lined up as a wide receiver more than any other tight end.
Well, in week one, he was lined up out wide on only 10.4% of his snaps.
The lowest rate in any game of his career, Kyle Pitts.
He had been at 26.3% or higher in each of the previous three seasons. Week one,
10% of his snaps out wide, 15th lowest average route depth, ninth lowest ADOT of his 45 games.
He only had three targets, I think. So I know, look, on paper, he caught the touchdown. He was
wide open. It wasn't a great game for anyone in the offense, but I would hope that's a better role for him to get
some more catches, more targets, and be a more reliable tight end going forward. We'll see.
Sitker Cousins, start Bijan. Algiers, 66% rostered. You can keep an eye on him. London,
we've talked about a lot. He's a number two receiver. I don't know if there's anything else you guys
want to say about London. Here's a question. London
or DK Metcalf?
London. I'll take Metcalf.
Okay. If you guys have
any more questions about this game, go ahead
and fire away. Oh, crap. I've got London
two spots ahead of Metcalf. I'll take London.
Aerosmith is the best
90s band. That's a good call there.
Kyle Pitts. Would you sit kyle pitts
for any streamers not there yet no okay um hold up what about brock bowers does he count as a
streamer no oh what about likely no i'd still start pitts i'll go the other way bowers and
likely over pitts jts, stardom.
You guys like Barkley this week?
Number one running back.
He's a low-end RB3.
Just kidding.
Just kidding.
I'm kidding.
All right, start A.J. Brown.
But how about Chris?
We have a question here in the chat.
Chris Goblin or Devante Smith?
Smith.
I don't want to screw up my answer.
I've got Smith one spot ahead of Gotti.
They're both top 13.
And you have him ahead of London.
Drake London or Chris Olave from the chat?
I'll take Olave.
Drake London or Zay Flowers from the chat?
London.
London.
Why would you be playing any Falcons from the chat?
I mean, look, you could say that about anyone but Bijan,
but it's a valid question, I guess, for London and Pitts.
Well, I mean, if we're playing the week one outcomes,
Pitts is one of the rare tight ends that scored a touchdown.
So let me at least give him some credit.
And London, if you have better options, then sit London.
You know, I don't think,
is Kirk Cousins going to look this bad moving forward?
I hope not.
We talked about this with Heath the other day.
Hope versus what you know.
London was drafted based on hope.
Cousins was expected to turn the Falcons around based on hope.
If hope is out the window already,
then you're out on the Falcons.
I get.
How about Dallas Goddard?
This guy might be a tough call.
Those,
all these streaming options,
Parkinson,
the saints guys,
Isaiah likely Dave,
where does Dallas Goddard fall amongst that group?
He's actually 12th for me in my rankings.
I'm not the biggest Goddard guy.
So take that into consideration.
I would start Bowers,
likely pits and taste some Hill ahead of biggest Goddard guy, so take that into consideration. I would start Bowers, likely Pitts, and Taysom Hill ahead of Dallas Goddard.
I agree with all those.
The only guy I would start Goddard over that was drafted ahead of him is Ingram.
Someone tweeted at Dave,
when you yelled Khan, I literally almost drove off the highway driving to work.
That's great.
That was an amazing moment.
Anything else you want to say?
Oh, Eagles DST, you guys are actually starting.
This one, I don't know.
They're so bad.
Well, they were terrible against the Packers.
Well, this is the other side of Kirk Cousins.
I mean, look, if he continues to look old and washed up,
then there's a lot to like about the Eagles defense.
To be fair, I don't know how much you want to judge from that game.
The field was awful.
Oh, terrible.
Right.
They looked actually better, I think, than last year anyway.
How much can the Falcons clean up in one week?
Their offensive line struggled.
Their quarterback struggled.
They have a first-time play caller who doesn't have the experience
of fixing things so fast.
Maybe he can do it.
Maybe he can't.
But I think Philadelphia's defense is still good.
I'm going to take the shot on them again.
And I will say, just on the theme of the show,
you hope that somebody named Kirk does well.
Eagles D or Seattle?
Seattle.
All right.
That's it for the show.
I'm going to update you you one last thing rest of season
christian mccaffrey or devon achan 1100 votes and 55 mccaffrey 45 achan and watch out jb is
about to lose it go ahead debo throw it up there there he is you just had to get the actual shirt I'm wearing.
Why did your head shrink?
All right.
Have a great day, everybody.
Captain's log.
Another good Fantasy Football Today episode.
Jamie was on point.
Dave brought his thoughts.
The short, hairy one ended up being a little too rambunctious at times,
talking about 90s bands. The nice thing is now we know why he wears the headphones to cover the ears.
Yeah, there you go.
Exactly.
Later, everybody.
Have a great weekend.
Talk to you on Sunday.
I have the mailbag coming up later,
so we'll talk to you then.
Later.
Later.
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