Fantasy Football Today - Super Bowl 59 DFS Main Slate Lineups, Picks, Stacks and Ownership (FFT DFS)

Episode Date: February 7, 2025

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Welcome to Fantasy Football Today. DFS, my name is Siena Jaden. Of course, as usual, I'm joined by Meg Schaup and Mike McClure. Meg and Mike, this is, I guess, our final show of the season. I mean, I don't know how it wouldn't be with one game left. Mike, I'll start with you. It's your Kansas City Chiefs. We're going to be talking, you know, listen, game predictions, maybe some talking points

when it comes to props, but obviously this is going to be a DFS heavy show, but it's gonna be pretty conversational. So if you have any questions, certainly let us know, Mike, Kansas City, they're back in this thing. I mean, this feels like, I think I heard Eric Casillius say it earlier, and maybe he got it from somebody else. It feels like the Super Bowl is the Patrick Mahomes invitational because it's just like more of the same. So how are you feeling

about this game? I'm very excited for it. See, I think we get another classic kind of like we did the first time these teams met in the Super Bowl most recently. Now I don't know that it'll be as high scoring as that matchup was, but I think it's going to be a good game because you look at the way Kansas City plays, they don't really blow anyone out ever, right? So there's certainly a scenario where Philly wins in a blowout, but I don't see Kansas City winning a blowout. So I think we're in for a very competitive game

just because of how these two teams play. Very excited for it though. I think it's a great DFS game. Yeah, we're gonna get to that in just a second. Meg, I, you know, and Mike knows this when the 49ers were playing the, the chiefs, when anybody's playing the chiefs, I always lean the other way. And it's always because I'm like,

I haven't seen enough from Kansas city this year. I think they're falling off like three years ago. I was like, they don't have Tyree kill Kelsey's getting older. Um, such and such team is good. I gotta be honest. I like the Eagles to squeak out a win here, but I feel like I'm just always on the wrong side of it. So anything from a game prediction standpoint, how do you think this game is gonna go?

I'm very similar to you. I've done the exact same thing. And so far I kind of feel the exact same way that I am on the Eagles and that I think every conversation about the Super Bowl this week has been, it's kind of the better roster versus the better quarterback and coach, right? I mean, I'm not saying anything

that anybody hasn't said a million times already, but it's true. And so I kind of do think the Eagles win, but again, nothing would surprise me. It's my homes, it's Andy Reed. So that's likely how I'll be playing it, but yeah, nothing more surprising. Mike, let's start with some like game scripts.

And before we get into maybe specific players, although we can highlight specific players too, and Meg, you and Mike will kind of toggle back and forth here. Is there maybe a couple of primary game scripts through your simulations that you've thought, all right, this is kind of what I'm going with? And I know that's such a broad question, but when you're looking at some of the lineups that you liked initially, or that you continue to like initially,

where have those game scripts kind of headed? Yeah. So I think there are many ways that you can build here. I'm still building mostly for competitive games. So I'm mostly balanced. So basically like three threes and four twos in terms of, you know, players from each team, I'm not getting a ton of five ones. When I look at it, though, the thing that I think is most interesting is the rushing ability of Jaylen

Hertz. There are many scenarios where Jaylen Hertz just outscores Patrick Mahomes while you are loaded with Kansas City pass catchers, right? So just because of the rushing upside and because of that tush push at the goal line and rushing touchdowns being so valuable. So some of the builds that I'm making will maybe seem like some heavy negative correlation, meaning like Jalen Hurts captain, but against the Kansas City defense and things like that. So I'm getting a lot of hurts, uh,

but with a lot of the Kansas City pieces attached to Jalen Hurts. Meg, I kind of like hurts in this game. I think more than anybody. And we'll talk about, you know, some captains that that you all like more than than others, but I think Jalen Hurts can get there in multiple ways. I mean, obviously if the chiefs sell out and try to stop Saquon Barkley, which I tend to think they need to do, because I think the way this Kansas City rush defense has been over the last month, six weeks, I mean, you can kind of five, six

yards them to death, and you can have Saquon Barkley just milk clock and ultimately score some touchdowns. I think Jalen Hurts can get there via the tush push, via the rushing yards, which I think he slated for around projected for around 40 rushing yards. I think he can score touchdowns with his legs, obviously, but I also think if you sell out and try to stop Sequon Barkley, I mean, you could see some single coverage with guys like Devontae Smith, AJ Brown. We all know Dallas Goddard might get some volume as well, but I think there's multiple paths to Jalen Hurts. And I like what Mike said about maybe having Jaylen Hurts in the captain position and then just kind of like loading up on Chiefs. That doesn't mean no Eagles beyond Jaylen Hurts, but I think we could see a

huge Jaylen Hurts game in a few of the primary pass catchers like Xavier Worthier, Travis Kelsey really get there as well. How are you like in terms of like primary game scripts, primary builds, what are you looking at? Yeah, I have been playing around with lineups with the Eagles, Eagles to win and basically all coming through Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley, similar to the Washington game. It wouldn't shock me if however many Eagles touchdowns are scored that they are on all on the ground from Jalen Hurts and Saquon Barkley. Now I'm not rolling out obviously Jalen Hertz passing touchdowns or anything like that. I'm just saying that would not surprise me at all. So I'm kind of really building with those two in all my lineups and one of them I've been playing around with one of them as the captain and then

just making it work from either another Eagles piece and then and then filling in with the Chiefs pieces because they're as Mike said there's then filling in with the Chiefs pieces. Because as Mike said, there's a lot of low price Chiefs pieces. Butker is obviously, the kicker can outscore some of the players that he's priced near. So I like Butker, I like some of those cheaper Chiefs pieces, maybe one expensive Chiefs piece like Kelsey.

We saw obviously, what tight ends in the playoffs have done to the Eagles. I know we say that about the Chiefs, but both tight ends, or excuse me, both teams have good tight end matchups, essentially. So yeah, I cut so I that's my very long way of saying, I like Hertz and Saquon, and I'm going to do a lot of Hertz and Saquon together, and then and then fill it out from there. And I like alternating both of them in the captain. Mike, we've got some comments in the chat

that I think are worth talking about. First of all, Josh Lucera says, "'If Casey is trailing, could Worthy catch seven to 10 balls in a hundred yard bonus?' That's a question. I absolutely think that's in play. Xavier Worthy is my favorite player. We'll get to that in just a little bit.

We've got Greg Goussays that says, "'I think Casey's luck finally runs Xavier Worthy is my favorite player. We'll get to that in just a little bit. We've got Gregous Hayes that says, I think Casey's luck finally runs out and Philly blows them out. That's a range of outcome. That's certainly within the range of outcomes, but we gotta stop calling it Casey luck at this point. I mean, there's just too much of a sample size. And listen, I've been guilty of that too,

but at this point, this team is just good and absolutely knows how to close. Let's see, James A. Okay, so this is just good and absolutely knows how to close. Let's see, James A. OK, so this is where this is a good stopping point question. Who to put in the captain position is the million dollar question. So, Mike, here's the thing. When I did when I ran an optimizer and, you know, it was pretty conservative in terms of like, you know, I didn't really mess with any of the tools.

I just kind of ran it. Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hurts, Dallas Goddard, Travis Kelsey came up. I'd like to add Xavier Worthy to that mix because I do think he could be, I think people still perceive him as sort of like the long play threat. That's very much not what he is.

He's the guy that could absolutely catch five, six, seven balls and take a wide receiver screen or a quick slant to the house. With that said, captain position, Mike, what were some of your favorites? Who's popping up? Yeah, I'll just read some of the exposures when I basically have it build 2000 lineups

and just look and see how often everyone's coming in. No surprise, Saquon Barclay is going to be the top in terms of the most optimal. I've got him up to 28%. Then Patrick Mahomes, 23. Xavier Worthy is third though. He comes in actually ahead of Jalen Hertz in terms of being optimal, which I found to be interesting

because I would not have put that there if I was talking about it or thinking through it manually. But then it is Jalen Hertz. So it's Barclay, Mahomes, Worthy, Hertz, and then Kelsey would be the top five there. After that, I'm getting very low exposure, but still getting a little A.G. Brown, a little Goddard, a little Smith, and that is basically it. The one that I found to be pretty interesting is I'm not getting any

Kareem Hunt, really, like 2% out of 2000 lineups, like 2%. And I think that that is interesting because he does still touch the football in the red zone and it is still very possible that he scores two touchdowns in this game. Um, so I, I'm not going to have Kareem hunt at the captain, which will be, you know, again, potentially interesting to see, but I wasn't getting a lot of them at flex either. So basically that's where I'm going to be most vulnerable is to any Kansas city rushing touchdowns. Cause I'm not going to have any Kansas City running backs. You know, I was thinking about, because we were talking about Super Bowl MVP, I was talking Super Bowl MVP

with Josh Ingalls from covers yesterday and actually with Emory Hunt and Keanu Martin on HQ. And I was trying to come up, like I like Jalen Hurts at plus 350 because I think the the number's kind of obnoxious, whether I'm a Jalen Hurts fan or not like plus 350 for a quarterback is a little silly to me with that said I was Trying to come up with arguments for like Xavier worthy as MVP that was around 26 to 1 but Kareem hunt It's 60 to 1 and listen. I you know, it's 61 for a reason, right? But I but Mike my follow-up question to the Kareem hunt thing is a I think putting him in the captain position is interesting if nobody's going to play him. And B, if you're going to do that, don't you have to do that with the Kansas City defense? Because to me, the only way that comes through is if we're creating short

fields for Kareem Hunt, and that's stymieing the past attempts from Patrick Mahomes, which obviously lessens the exposure to Xavier Worthy, Travis Kelsey, short fields by the defense, Kareem Hunt kind of running in some short touchdowns. Would that be the way to think about a Kareem Hunt captain lineup? I think it could be, yes. I also think it would be, for me personally, it would be more of a shootout game that it would get there.

Gotcha. Just, you know, having enough volume, enough scoring there. So in a low scoring game, like, yeah, it's definitely possible. And again, that's where I'm going to be most vulnerable, right? If that happens and it's a two touchdown game for Kareem Hunt, I'm probably going to lose everything I enter in this spot. Now to protect against that, I will, which we've talked about this a couple of times, you know, over the years really through certain things. I don't mind playing a Kareem Hunt

anytime touchdown plus 150 or better. It's sort of a little hedge there. There is zero scenario that Kareem Hunt is optimal number one, but even needed if he doesn't score a touchdown. There's just no volume. There's no passing volume. There's nothing there to where his, his, he's not scoring 10 fantasy points without landing in the end zone, right? It's essentially impossible in this game. So at plus 150, I will be sprinkling a little on the anytime touchdown because I'm not going to get him in DFS. And that's just going to be how I personally handle this situation with him. Meg, before I get to you a couple of comments, first of all, Andrew Rob, I think I'm pronouncing that last name,

right? Says Meg Mike, see you three of my favorite people to listen to for betting and DFS underdog dailies. God bless you all and let's go Chiefs. Boo those Eagles. I mean, listen, I'm not an Eagles guy. This is like, go ahead. I didn't think you were gonna read the last sentence. The last part of that that comment I thought was gonna get cut off somehow. Well, I know Andrew, he's a diehard Washington fan like Garcia. So he, you know, it turns his stomach to make that think of

the Eagles winning, but I'm sure he's supporting Mike too. I kind of can't stand the Eagles, if I'm being honest, anywhere where I feel like I'm like in danger going to their to their stadium and rooting for my team is just I'm not going to be a big fan of that. And anybody who says that I'm being hyperbolic, I don't know what to tell you. I just don't think you're in tune to what's actually going on.

Podson says, fantasy football season is over, but Andrew says fantasy football season is never over if you play best ball, Meg Schaup. Which you absolutely do. Okay, so let's talk, let's talk favorite captain plays. We heard a couple from Mike and we'll toggle back and forth maybe with a couple of more and some game scripts

and some contrarian game scripts, but any favorite captains for you, Mike? Yeah, I mean, I think the way Mike listed it out makes perfect sense. Like I agree, I kind of co-sign that. I'm playing less lineup, so I'm probably gonna pick and choose and kind of focus on the Eagle side, Hertz, Saquon and Goddard are going to be my three top captains.

Still filling in with, you know, probably likely said it's going to be a balanced three-three most likely. May get a little contrarian and do some four-two eagles because I think that will be a lower own. But I think I'm focusing on those three just because I'm not playing as much total volume. Yeah. I like the four- two builds quite a bit on the eagle side.

I mean, what's interesting is, Mike, with the Eagles, it's pretty condensed, right? And with Kansas City, you're having to take a few more chances. So do you, in showdowns, are you more inclined to go to that condensed target show or because it's showdown, you're more inclined to actually kind of go

against the grain and go with some guys that people just aren't really playing as much because they don't know what the volume is going to be. It really does depend on the slate for me. Pricing typically dictates everything for me. They're really not going to be a blanket approach, but I will say I am more likely to, you know, in those Eagles heavy lineups, it is likely to be some of the, uh, the, the big guns there. So like, I've got a couple of looks here with Jalen Hertz captain, where I've

actually triple stacked it, uh, AJ Brown, Devante Smith and Goddard, uh, and, and no Saquon essentially just building for that scenario where Kansas city is somehow able to stack the box successfully and have a little success offensively putting Hertz in that position where he's got to throw and obviously uses legs where he ultimately does still outscore Patrick Holmes. So that's interesting because I think some people will think, especially new showdown players will think that's a little counterintuitive in the sense that they're thinking, all right, well, all these Eagles are going to score. That must mean the Kansas City Chiefs are gonna score a ton Don't I need Kansas City Chiefs there? So what's your reaction to that?

You'll definitely have two Kansas City Chiefs, you know as the other two spots in your roster As far as where you go with them. I think there are a number of options again. Keep in mind you can play kickers We have absolutely perfect conditions in a dome. We've got great range from Harrison-Bucker. And Kansas City, while they've been a good football team overall, analytically, they're not always super sharp there. They will kick the long field goal at times and put points on the board. So definitely something to note in showdown that that could be the build you're looking

at. All right. I'm looking at ownership. Again, ownership can vary, especially with, with what do we have? Four days to go, three and a half days to go for the Super Bowl. It's looking like Meg Patrick Mahomes,

Saquon Barkley, Jaylen Hertz, all over 50%. Xavier Worthy kind of trending to that 50% range. Are there any lower own plays? And lower own in showdown? I mean, I'm really talking like 40% or lower, although you can go super contrarian if you like. kind of trending to that 50% range. Are there any lower owned plays and lower owned and showdown? I'm really talking like 40% or lower, although you can go super contrarian if you like. Are there any lower owned plays that you're finding like, Hey, I'm just getting it up playing this guy. Like for example, Kareem hunts only 26% Hollywood Brown is 35%. We could go to the kickers and players like that. Juju 15%, Pacheco, Noah Gray, all sub 15%,

P Ryan 11%, any of those players jumping out to you to kind of help make your lineup because you are probably gonna need some low cost options as well. Yeah, both from low cost and low ownership. I like a lot of those options. I'm with Mike, I'm not in on the Kansas City running game. So I'm not really targeting hunt or Pacheco.

So those are out for me, but I do have interest. Juju Smith Schuster, I got, you know, two big catches last game. Could absolutely see he, I think he's running the third most routes, low ownership there. Noah Gray did not, you know, did not run as many routes, but the way that Eagles play defense

in cover four, cover six per fantasy points, this is kind of where Noah Gray can excel. So Andy Reid is a very smart coach. I think maybe we see a little more 12 personnel and we get a little more Noah Gray routes. If so, you're getting super low price, super low ownership and then no. I don't even mind doing Kelsey and Noah Gray. How many people are going to do that?

You know, stuff like that is stuff, you know, two running backs from the same team, two tight ends from the same team, stuff like that is unique. So Noah Gray, Juju, or two my lower and I'll just throw out Goddard is like, I think 35%. So I definitely like Goddard as well. Mike, I know in the prop market, you were looking earlier in the week or last week at Deandre Hopkins, is he a guy you're willing to put into your lineup? I'm looking at his price. It's 4,400, which frankly is a little bit more expensive than I would have anticipated.

But he's super low on which which makes sense. Any thoughts on D hop or any of those other low cost options? Yeah, I like D hop. I'm way more likely to play him than say someone like Isaiah Pacheco at 50, 200, I believe he is. And the reason for that is, yes, the target volume is falling off a cliff for Hopkins. However, he is still on the field in the most valuable area, and that is the red zone. So I think that that is why it's appealing to play someone like Hopkins. You can get there on one reception if it's a four yard touchdown at forty four hundred dollars.

That's probably going to work in this game that we're talking about. So I'm very interested in him. No interest in someone like Isaiah Pacheco, frankly. Um, and that's kind of the situation I wanted to look at a little bit. When I talk about kickers, uh, Harrison bucker at five K or Isaiah Pacheco at 5,200, I think that's an absolute no brainer. It's definitely Harrison bucker. But I think the interesting question is Harrison bucker versus Kareem hunt.

Uh, you know, hunt obviously has that range of outcome with scoring rushing touchdowns, but you look up and down a game log, like Hunt, for someone like Hunt, he scored a touchdown in four straight games. This is the most difficult matchup out there. Even while scoring touchdowns, he scored eight fantasy points, 11.6. Like, Bucker puts up 11 fantasy points pretty frequently. So if Hunt doesn't land in the end zone, he's essentially drawing dead. And even if he does land in the end zone, I think Bucker's gonna match him here.

Yeah, as much as I kind of forwarded the idea of a Kareem Hunt captain, like I gotta be honest, I think the Kansas City running game is gonna be pretty bad. And Kareem Hunt's rushing yards total as of yesterday was around 44, 44 and a half. I actually like the under. Pacheco's way under that. So again, if you think those touchdowns are gonna go to potentially a Xavier worthy with a pop pass or, you know, some sort of gimmicky play or Travis Kelsey or Noah Gray. But I love the Harrison-Butker call as well, Mike. I think that makes a ton of sense and people very shy to play kickers,

especially when they see a point total that is close to 50. Let's talk about Dallas Goddard real quick. Grey Goose Hayes, Meg says, speaking of Dallas, do you think he gets his over 52 and a half? It's pretty high. Your thoughts on Dallas Goddard,

both with that prop and in DFS? Yeah, I know it's kind of a popular pick, but I do really like it. He's had a very strong playoff run. We know you can attack the Chiefs in the middle, you know, tight ends versus Chiefs. I've done it all season. I'm not going to stop now. So yes, I do like Dallas Goddard in the prop market, and I do like him in DFS. Mike, any comments on Goddard? And is there anybody else from a prop standpoint that you were staring down over the last week and a half that is also gonna be in your DFS lineups? Yeah, look, Goddard is definitely very firmly in play.

Like he's, you know, the question, and obviously what really is gonna separate, you know, who wins and who doesn't here is basically, you know, getting the question, the answer to that question right. And it's either it's going to be, in my opinion, it's going to be Dallas Goddard or AJ Brown's going to be one of those two players that really exceeds their, their prop line for Philly. I I'm very confident it's going to be one of those two players that does it. Um, I'm going to be playing both, but Goddard fits, he's too cheap for

the role that he has right now. Um, so I like him a lot. Haven't bet his overs in a player prop market or anything like that, but mostly because I'm going to get all that exposure here in DFS. Now I would say that if you want to be a little more contrarian, I think the most interesting pivot you can make in your lineup would be just manually swapping. I know the correlation doesn't line up at all, but manually swapping Hollywood Brown for Dallas Goddard. Hollywood Brown's a little cheaper. He certainly has the upside to exceed his point total there,

but no one is projecting that, like not even close. So that's one that I will be making. Yeah, that's interesting. I mean, you know, Hollywood Brown can certainly get loose anywhere, Meg. I have the part of the reason I love Xavier Worthy and I mentioned it earlier and why he's going to be in the captain spot, but also, you know, I'm not only going to make a handful of hands of showdown lineups, but he'll be in the flex spot as well. I just think he can do so much near the line of scrimmage, which, which again, with this secondary, that's very good for the Eagles. You don't have to worry about coverage when you're getting the ball a second after the snap, right?

And that's what the Xavier worthy experience has been. And you know, you kind of wait and see what he can do with it after the snap with blocks being set up and using his speed and things of that nature. Is Xavier worthy a guy that you're definitely going to have in your lineup? So are you willing to fade him? No, I really like, I mean, worthy and Kelsey Kelsey are the high-priced chiefs that I'm prioritizing and then I love Mike's discussion about Butcher because I think Butcher can outscore a lot of those guys in that range or slightly above or below him.

So and then it's Butcher and then the chief, the cheap chiefs, that's hard to say, that I like are Noah Gray and Juju the best, but I would be willing to take shots on Hollywood Brown and Hopkins as well. But no, up top for the Chiefs, it's Kelsey and it's Worthy for me. They're who's soaking up the targets and I think Mahomes is going to have to throw a lot in this game. I think that's what we should do next. I like how you framed that, Meg.

So let's do this because we're only going to go like 30 minutes. We're already 22 in. Let's talk about some kind of a some of our of our favorite players in what I mean by that is players We're actually gonna play in our lineups for each team. So Meg you just framed the Kansas City Chiefs It sounds like worthy and Kelsey, you know, maybe some homes there too, but but Kerr Those are three players you really want to play. So let's stick with Kansas City Mike Maybe you know two three four players that you know You're gonna play in a lot of your showdown lineups on the Kansas

City side. Yeah, it'll be worthy. Butker and Hollywood Brown will be probably the most prominent. I'll certainly have some Kelsey builds and be sprinkling in there. But for me, I'm going to be focused. Travis Kelsey is clearly going to be a focus. He does have a great matchup as good as it can possibly get really against the Seagulls team. But for me, I like the speedsters. I like the quick timing routes, which we've seen and stuff around the line of scrimmage to Worthy and Brown. And I like Harrison Bucker.

I think that he's really strong in a lot of scenarios. So if Philly plays really well defensively, where they're going to tighten up is going to be in that red zone. Kansas City is going to move the ball between the twenties. I think we have very little doubt about that. It's just going to come down to red zone efficiency. So in the lower scoring game, I think Buckers great. And in a shootout, I think Buckers great as well, because you're likely getting three touchdowns and at least a field goal, which is not going to kill you again, that that five, five K price tag scoring seven points, I would, you know, Pacheco's not scoring seven, Hunt's only scoring seven with a touchdown

and the scenario where Hunt scores 20 is just so unlikely here for me. So Worthy, Bucker and Hollywood Brown by far the biggest chiefs exposures for me. Okay, so let's go to biggest Eagles exposures. Meg, who do you got? Well, up top, I said it that they'll be my two main captain plays. It's Saquon and Hertz. And then in the middle, there's actually not going to really be cheap plays for the Eagles.

Because just as you can tell the way I'm kind of talking through some of the cheaper chiefs plays that I'm playing, but it's those two guys up top. I think they could, again, soak up a lot of the touchdown equity for the Eagles and it's Goddard. And so I may sprinkle in a little bit of one with AJ Brown, one with Devonta Smith replacing Goddard or something along those lines. But I don't think I'm going to get to a lot of other Eagles. And they're just more condensed, obviously.

And then their kickers had issues. So if I'm going to kickers, it's going to be Bucker over Elliott. I'm not saying Elliott couldn't outscore Bucker, but to me, I'm gonna with the volume of line of some plan, I'm gonna lean into the better kicker. So yeah, I really don't have a ton of other Eagles exposure. The only caveat I'll say is if for some reason,

if Gainwell were to get ruled out, I think he's still going through concussion protocol, maybe I'd take like a cheap swing on Will Shipley or something like that. That would be only if Gainwell's ruled out. Yeah. I'm looking at the cheap swings and certainly if he's not playing, that would make sense. Grant Calcaterra is a thousand. You know, again, I'm, Samaj P. Ryan, 1200. Those are some of the cheaper players, Juju Smith Schuster, 2000. And we know on a couple of plays, Juju can just find himself in space. So I think those are some interesting options. My favorite Eagles, Mike, are probably, so

I'm going to make a statement and then I'm going to ask you a question off of that statement. Then I want to get your, maybe your top three or four on the Eagle side. For me, it's probably AJ Brown, Jaylen Hertz and Dallas Goddard. That's a statement that doesn't have Saquon Barkley in it. So my question for you on the showdown slate, especially for those that are new to showdown,

but I mean, really I'd like to get your answer too personally. Saquon Barkley is, you know, I think a lot of people on a lot of slates would be like, oh, that's a lock button. You got to have Saquon Barkley in there. Is, I think a lot of people on a lot of slates would be like, oh, that's a lock button. You got to have Saquon Barkley in there. Is that really the case on a showdown slate? It's not the case on a showdown slate. Now the computer still wants to play a lot of them, but I'm definitely prioritizing both

Mahomes and Hertz over Saquon for sure. Look, we know the upside that Jalen Hertz has in the running game. I think he's going to be forced to throw the ball a lot. And then Kansas city, they have no running game. They're not taking the ball out of my home's hands. So it's either going to be my home scoring touchdowns in some capacity, or it's going to be a ton of Harrison buck or field goals. Right. So I think that, uh, I agree with you. It's for me, it's AJ Brown and Jalen Hurts.

I'll have the most hurts just because of the position he plays and the floor. But I love AJ Brown. I think he's the best play from a skill position standpoint on the Eagles in this game. Look, I think that Devante Smith, as much as I love him, I am actually worried about the hamstring, the way he plays, how hard he's going to be trying to play. It's obviously it's a Super Bowl. Hamstring injury is not something that I want to play with on a

receiver like that. So I think there's definitely a scenario that he doesn't finish the game. I know it's not something you're planning on necessarily, but I think that AJ Brown has got the must upside here. All right. So another, another follow-up question there. First of all, I'd like if you have a third Eagle that is fitting into builds, let me know. But is a two-four build with Hertz and AJ Brown and the other four being Kansas City Chiefs, is that in play for you? Definitely.

Definitely have a lot of that. Okay, and is there another Eagle that's kind of making their way into your optimal builds? Dallas Goddard still is popping up a little bit there. And then the other one that I think is still sneaky is the Eagles defense. I just think there's a spot where it could be a lower scoring game. They're 200 more than Kansas City's defense. And I would still be fine playing receivers and everything against that defense.

All right. And maybe we'll close. If you have any questions in the chat, let us know. and I would still be fine playing receivers and everything against that defense. All right, and maybe we'll close. If you have any questions in the chat, let us know. Maybe we'll close with this. What's a, I guess, what would be your favorite, Meg, I'll start with you, your favorite contrarian game script, your favorite game script where you just don't think

a lot of people are gonna build around this and you could just get different that way. I think my contrarian game script would be Eagles win by a touchdown or more. Yeah. And in that case, it would at least be four to Eagles. So I think that would be it. Which chiefs I bring it back with. Again, you have a lot of options. I'd have to ask Mike on that one. I don't know if that would make sense for Buckeye. Does it Is it then they're having to go for four downs and you're not getting Buckard

or does that make more sense that no, he's just kicking a lot of field goals and that's why they're falling behind a little more and that's why, you know, some of the other skill position players aren't hitting the lineup. Do you have a take on that, Mike? Yeah, I do. I think Buckard would still be included there. I thought so. I think you kind of started alluding to it. I think that scenario, how that one plays out is, you know, early in the game, first quarter, Kansas City settles for that 50 yard field goal, right? It puts the three points on the board, which is more than three points in terms of fantasy points with Harrison Bucker for a 50 yard field goal. And then they maybe get another touchdown. You put them at six six there and that's the scenario that I could see getting there because if they are trailing by that amount it

means that Kareem Hunt has not scored already so you're removing you know those running back plays buckers again it's a 50-yard field goal is essentially a rushing a rushing touchdown yeah which is insane but it is so yeah I think the buck is still gonna be included in that build. In that build, would you be more inclined Mike to go three, three or four, two? Probably three, three. Only because the Eagles are still very concentrated.

So I would probably pick Hertz and two skill position players and try to nail down where those touchdowns are going. and then just looking for cheaper volume on the other side. So that's personally how I would do it. Yeah, but going a couple of past catchers in that case, it sounds like Mike, is there a contrarian build that maybe we haven't discussed that you would consider building around? Yeah, I think that the the double kicker could be interesting double kicker defense. Look, the last time these teams met, we saw over 60 points. The total in this game is essentially 50.

The Eagles defense is very good and they run the football a lot. One thing Kansas City's done throughout this little dynasty run has been able to possess the football, right? You've seen time and time again, they take half a quarter off the clock. If that Eagles defense is stout and we land in field goals, like I, there is a scenario here where the final score of this game is 20 to 17. And if that happens, both kickers are involved. The defenses have likely done enough that if it comes down to like a, on the Eagle side, one or both of the touchdowns

become Jalen Hurts rushing touchdowns. Saquon's not getting there. The receivers are probably not getting there. I think that that is a scenario not many people are building for. And I actually think despite seeing 60 plus points and a very real chance of seeing that again, I think there is a scenario that we get to halftime and

the score halftime is seven to three. Yeah, makes sense. I mean, I hope that's the case because I'm on the first half under I put that on sports line over a week ago. All right, I think listen, this show was more about like, obviously, we talked about plays, we talked about favorite plays, but I think it was really important to talk about, especially when it comes to showdown, like how we think about these builds and why we're fitting certain players in with others. I think that, especially when it comes to showdown,

which I know is intimidating to me and intimidating to a lot of people out there, I think knowing what the line of thinking is and what the logic is, is more important than the plays themselves. I guess we ought to close the show. This is kind of sad. I mean, closing 2025.

So Meg, I'm gonna start with you. Any final thoughts as we head into, officially as we head into best ball season, right? Any final thoughts? I guess that does speak to me, yes. First of all, I always have fun doing the show every Thursday with you two and Nada. So love that.

Hope we can run it back next year. Had a blast as always. The season went way too fast, by the way. I feel like this was the fastest season ever. So yes, I'm sad, I'm coping, and I'm already in the basketball streets. So join me in the basketball streets. You'll see me on underdog fantasy.

You know why it went fast is because our team, the commanders, wasn't getting dragged through the mud every week. Like it happened for 30 years in a row. That's probably it. Kansas City's never dragged through the mud. Mike, I imagine these seasons fly by for you. Anyway, any final thoughts as we head into best fall season? Yeah, flying by, having fun though, obviously go Chiefs in the Super Bowl. And the other thing I would say is, if you want to continue to play DFS and you're watching the show,

I know many of you have been with us for years, but if you are new and this was your first season, I highly recommend following us over into the DFS PGA streets, because there's a lot you can learn from a sport like golf that doesn't require the investment and the time commitment that grinding NBA DFS or MLB every single day. So the fact that it's weekly just like the NFL, I would highly recommend checking us out there. I know Cia and I obviously do a

lot of DFS PGA. So definitely check that out. And we'll be back here grinding football again for you know, yeah, we put out a lot of PGA on the early edge as well. And I'll just tell everybody there's an announcement coming within the next couple of weeks that very much pertains to golf betting and golf DFS that I think everybody's going to want to like dial in on. So I think that's good advice about PGA DFS.

It's sort of a different analysis, but it's also very low. But like you can do a $3 line up. It lasts four days. Like it is a fun sweat. It's different from NFL because it's a four day tournament. So I think that's some really good and fun advice there. Ladies and gentlemen, that'll wrap the 2025 season we hope for 2024 2025 season. Well, we'll be back soon enough to talk this upcoming season. But

thanks for joining us for every single show. Really appreciate everybody. I saw some recent reviews, which were really nice. If you want to review our podcast on Apple or Spotify, please go do it. But that's it for now on behalf of not on the ones and twos and threes and fours and on behalf of Meg shop and Mike McClure, my name is C and a Jod have a great Superbowl weekend. Everybody. This is fantasy football today. DFS.