Fantasy Football Today - Super Bowl LIV Recap; The Best of Radio Row (02/03 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: February 3, 2020We're excited to talk about Super Bowl LIV, but of course we'll give you the Fantasy angles in addition to a conventional game recap. What were our Fantasy takeaways from the game (2:55)? How are we f...eeling about Damien Williams and Deebo Samuel? Did Patrick Mahomes leapfrog Lamar Jackson? ... Lots of Super Bowl talk (14:00). Was this a good game or a great game? What did we think about the use of timeouts (15:15)? Was that really pass interference? Best commercial (18:25)? Best food we ate? Prop bets, crazy stats and what we learned about Jimmy Garoppolo and a lot more. We also answer 2020 Fantasy questions about KC (31:40) and SF (40:00). Should you draft Travis Kelce ahead of Tyreek Hill? Do we want to draft a SF RB? ... The best of Radio Row (46:40)! We spent a week on radio row asking athletes, Fantasy analysts and media members some wacky questions like "Is Jerry Maguire a sports movie?" and "how do you rank pancakes, waffles and french toast" and "do 'frog' and 'dog' rhyme?" Find out what our celebrity contestants had to say! ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
It's a good day to be a Kansas City Chiefs fan.
It's an even better day to be Heath Cummings.
His team just won the Super Bowl.
He claims to have predicted the final score exactly, accurately on the Friday preview show.
I'm going to have to check on that one.
And he got the Kyle Juszczyk prop bets right.
And he's taking the day off.
You don't even get to hear from him today.
Instead, you're stuck with me, Adam Azer, plus Dave Richard and Jamie Eisenberg.
Welcome to our Super Bowl 54 recap.
31-20, the final score.
The Chiefs are Super Bowl champions for the first time in 50 years.
We're going to talk about the game and much, much more.
Jamie was at the game.
He's probably exhausted.
But how was the experience last night jamie
the experience was good um unlike you the halftime show was great um no uh the the game was great you
know it was it was fun to see how it all unfolded and you know i mean i feel bad for the 49ers and
their fans but uh you know watching that fourth quarter was was fun to see Mahomes and Damian Williams and company and how they rallied down 10 points.
But the atmosphere was fantastic.
I thought the crowd was great.
It was slightly pro-Chiefs, but I think it was, you know, close to 50-50 split at least at the start of the game.
And, you know, I've now sat the last two years in the auxiliary press box, which you get a real good feel for the crowd and I think a better view.
So I thoroughly enjoy it and I enjoy hearing the fans.
But the atmosphere was great.
The game was great.
You know, and again, just aside from the result for the 49ers fans,
I think it was an enjoyable Super Bowl 54.
And a great experience.
You know, Radio Row was great for us too.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, Radio Row was a week of just so much fun for us.
We're going to talk about that.
So today on the show, we're recapping the game.
We're going to give fantasy outlooks for both teams in 2020.
You know, for example, Tyreek Hill or Travis Kelsey?
That's an interesting question.
We'll get into that.
We'll do the best of Radio Row.
So we went around Radio Row.
We'll talk about this more later in the show if you're interested.
It was just a really, really cool week.
There was just so much media
there. We asked writers
and football players and some
fantasy analysts some very, very
important questions like
is Jerry Maguire a sports
movie? Do frog and dog
rhyme? How do you rank pancakes,
waffles, and French toast? We'll give
you all the answers, the highlights of that,
coming up later on in the show.
I also have an amazing Christian McCaffrey story too.
Okay, we'll save that for later.
Let's talk football.
Dave, I'll start with you.
Any major fantasy impact from Super Bowl 54?
No.
I mean, maybe it's Damian Williams that gets the credit that we thought about giving him during last offseason.
And then when the preseason starts and training camp rolls, people really started to freak out about Damian Williams.
And maybe they realized, well, he wouldn't be that guy.
And then LeSean McCoy came in, and everybody just kind of jumped off the damian williams bandwagon at that point but he had a fantastic finish and if the chiefs don't make
any additions to their run game i think you could see damian williams go right back to
where he was probably closer to before leshawn mccoy went to kansas city which was around three
ish type of a fantasy pick i don't know if i'll get that high, but I see where you're going.
It was interesting.
I wrote the Damian Williams story for our site after the game.
About how he should have been the MVP?
I think so.
I kind of got a 50-50 split on the response to that.
You saw a lot of players tweeting that they felt he got robbed of the award.
I understand some of the sentiment that if you know of the award and you know i understand some
of the sentiment that if you take away the 38-yard touchdown run with a minute left
do his numbers look as appealing you know he's the first player in super bowl history to ever have a
hundred yards rushing and a receiving and a rushing score in the same game um one response to uh
saying that you know he should have gotten the award over mahomes was well mahomes
led them back what did williams do before the score was or what you know when the score was
10 10 or when they were trailing 20 to 10 well mahomes threw two interceptions in that span too
you know so um that that's kind of the reason why i think mahomes loses a little bit in this regard
but uh look we know what the award is it's it's mostly slated toward quarterbacks but williams was was fantastic the the cool thing was um damian williams uh spoke to uh our guys on cbs sports hq on the field p prisco and danny
canelo's cool interview uh but he took a long time to to get into the interview room after the super
bowl and as a result uh i got to ask a lot of his player a lot of his teammates um you know just
about about the game and listen to other people ask about him as well.
And the sentiment, what they feel for him,
his fullback, Anthony Sherman,
just glowing about what he was able to accomplish.
The fact that he runs hard, doesn't go out of bounds,
I think that kind of ties into his fantasy fortunes
in that he's a guy that sort of runs to contact a little bit,
not necessarily a typical Andy Reid type of running back um but he's so good in the
passing game um you know travis kelsey you know he said we just knew we had to feed that man you
know that's what he he said uh two six is one of the hardest working guys in the business
tyree kill you know he said he's such a difference maker for our offense it seems as if you know
they're such a tight-knit unit um the first words out of tyree
kills mouth were you know i i'd love to keep this team together forever but that's just not realistic
and we'll see what they do to add to their backfield uh on media night i think we saw we
spoke about this during the week last week uh i spoke to miko hardman you know he talked about
you know hopefully getting a bigger role and you know the one thing he said was if two years from
now if i'm not making a lot of money i'm probably going to be out of the league meaning that he's
either going to take a big step forward
or he's probably not going to be around.
And so we'll see if he's a bigger factor as well.
But I do think they'll probably add somebody else
just because Williams, in his entire career,
has never stayed healthy.
And that was my concern last year.
He missed five games this year.
He missed parts of others.
But when he's on the field,
he's clearly a dynamic force in this offense.
And if you just look at what Andy Reid said about him after the game,
it kind of gives you a glimpse into how Reid feels about him.
He referred to him as a powerful back for the three playoff games.
And then he talked about a specific play that Williams had,
and it was just power football.
So obviously he knows he's a good pass catcher out of the backfield,
but he sees him as a power back as well.
And if he's got this track record of injuries, and we know that that's the case, then how can he last a long him as a power back as well and if if he's got this track record of injuries and we know that that's the case then how can he last yeah one of the one of the props and
adam i know you're probably trying to move us along but one of the props uh was his receptions
for the super bowl and depending on where you got it for i think dave you said is where you
i could have gotten it at four on the low end i think it started to creep up almost to five four
and a half five in some cases um He had four targets in the first quarter
and could have had a touchdown in the first quarter as well.
I think it was the first quarter.
Mahomes overthrew him.
But they made a real big effort to keep him involved.
You know, Mahomes getting the ball out quick.
And it's just part of the Andy Reid offense.
So whoever's back there is going to be probably involved in that regard.
And just one note on McCoy.
He obviously didn't play, but he says he's not going to retire.
He says he would like to eventually retire as an Eagle.
That could just be signing a contract for one day and calling it quits.
But doubtful he's going to be the guy that's backing him.
Where is he going to go?
I mean, he could be like a Frank Gore and just hangs on
and gets the right spot where he gets some touches.
I guess that could be the case.
By the way, the receiving yards prop for Damian Williams was 29.5.
How many receiving yards did he have?
29.
Yeah, Vegas is smart.
Yeah, they took my money on that one.
Yeah, so I think the encouraging thing here for Damian Williams
is that you compare his late season run in 2018,
including the playoffs, to his late season run in 2019.
There were more carries in 2019.
At the end of 2018, it was, I think, a six-game stretch.
Yeah, a six-game stretch where he was just really, really good.
But in those six games, including the postseason, he had more than 13 carries
only one time in those six games. If you look at his last six healthy games, okay,
take away one game where he left with an injury, his last six healthy games of the season,
including the playoffs, 19 carries, 16 carries, 12, 12, 17, 17.
So more of a rushing workload plus the catches were there.
But we'll see.
I mean, because they just they came out in the regular season and they traded for McCoy
right before the season started.
And Damian Williams had 13 carries in week one, nine in week two, missed some time, nine,
then one, then nine.
And so it was very frustrating.
He really wasn't very good for fantasy. They didn't they didn't trade for mccoy they signed mccoy and that was part of the reason
we were a little concerned was that they gave him more money in the one year than they gave
damien over the two years right so jamie any big fantasy impact from uh super bowl 54 for you uh
you know i i think obviously you see that there's a very high ceiling for debo samuel um you. The fact that they put the ball in his hands in so many different ways,
that's encouraging.
But the downside of that is what the passing game is for the 49ers,
and they need to let Jimmy Garoppolo throw the ball more.
It was really strange to see where he was trending end of 2017,
beginning of 2018, to the player that we saw this year.
Now, there were some times where he cut it loose,
and he looked really good when he was doing so.
But as we saw down the stretch, whether it was just because the run game was so dominant
or in the Super Bowl, it seemed like they were a little bit tentative
to have him throw the ball downfield.
He had, I don't know this off the top of my head,
but he was at one point actually had more air yards than Mahomes in the game.
But the two throws that stand out, one was the one at the end of the
first half to george kittle down the field um where kittle had the unfortunate offensive pass
interference call the second one was at the end of the game where he just missed i think it was
on on the deep throw he should have had emmanuel sanders on another touchdown as well um but uh
that's what i meant you know I meant. It feels as if
they need to open up the offense a little bit more
and maybe that comes with more trust with Debo
Samuel either bringing back Emmanuel
Sanders or finding a better replacement. Obviously,
George Kittle's a star, but it can't
just be ground and pound all the time.
Why?
They're eight minutes away
from winning the Super Bowl.
I don't know how good he is.
Remember I said that I thought this game would sort of be an indication
of how we're going to think of Jimmy Garoppolo.
And I think he's good.
I just don't think he's great.
And I was thinking about that the entire fourth quarter
after the Chiefs flipped the script
and were playing with the lead about what you were talking about.
But I think you've got to have more balance.
I mean, you have to be able to, okay, if we're in this situation,
be able to rely on your passing game. And I just don't feel like they did that enough. You know, it's, you know, I'll go back to two things Pete Prisco always says.
One is be who you are. And they sort of got away from that a little bit to start the game. They
didn't run the ball enough to start the game, I thought, getting away from what their identity is.
But the other part about it is throw to score run to win and so their run game is so
good you can sort of sort of you know put teams on their heels a little bit more not that it
obviously it worked for them they got to the super bowl the playoff run was fantastic what they did
against minnesota and and green bay with their ground game was great but i i think you know for
what we talk about fantasy wise and i think also nfl perspective is if they could have a little bit
more balance just a little bit more balance just
a little bit more in the passing game it'd be great for us it'd be great for debo uh it would
make kiddo that much better and that's what we saw last year you know they had to throw the ball a
lot more last year because their defense wasn't as good and their quarterback situation was different
but shanahan allowed their quarterbacks to throw more i'd like to see that for garoppolo and my
fantasy takeaway was i'm sitting there i'm just thinking I might change my mind on Mahomes versus Lamar Jackson.
Because I have been, even in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues, Lamar Jackson is my number one quarterback.
Mahomes is obviously incredible.
What he did in the postseason, he had more than 40 points twice.
He had 27 fantasy points, and he didn't even play that well for three quarters of the game.
In fact, Troy Aikman called him out, said he was basically having a bad game not playing well and a lot of people
thought that maybe he got yeah he got hurt you know with the hit in the first quarter right and
uh right the throw he made to sammy walkins late in the game was beautiful the throw to tyree kill
was obviously beautiful so you know what what he does i don't know if it's more sustainable than
what lamar jackson does because lamar jackson he had over 1,200 rushing yards this year,
and he was on pace in the seven starts he made in 2018.
He was on pace for almost the exact same amount of yards, over 1,200.
And Patrick Mahomes hasn't even been a 300-yard rusher,
so I basically did a little math, and I said if Lamar Jackson has
about 1,100 more rushing yards than Patrick Mahomes,
but Mahomes has 1,500 more – no, okay, sorry.
If Lamar Jackson has 1,100 more rushing yards than Mahomes,
but Mahomes has 1,500 more passing yards than Jackson, well, then Patrick –
and this, by the way, based on projections of what they've done,
it's kind of realistic.
Mahomes would only need nine more touchdown passes to score more than Jackson in a six-point-per-passing touchdown league.
So it seems like, you know, I feel like I probably would bet on that.
I would probably bet on him getting nine more touchdown passes than Lamar Jackson.
And in theory, turnover is not a factor here.
That might get Mahomes more fantasy points than Jackson.
Wouldn't it just be awesome if they're both great?
I mean, how cool would that be?
If we get 2018 Mahomes, 2019 Jackson, and 2020.
Like, that would just be amazing.
Well, not if you don't have them because you're screwed.
Everybody else is going to crush you.
But yeah, obviously Mah Mahomes is great.
He's young and it's fun.
You could have 84 Marino too.
We'll throw that in.
Well, we did talk to him.
I hope everybody enjoyed that interview.
All right.
Let's do some real quick Super Bowl questions.
First of all, how good of a game was that?
I did a Twitter poll.
How good was that game?
Great, very good, solid, or average or below average?
What do you think the Twitter folk had to say?
What do you think won?
Great, very good, solid, or average or below average?
I'll say very good won the poll.
Correct.
43.1% of the vote, followed by solid at 29.6%,
followed by great, 21%,
and only 6% said average or below average.
What would you guys say?
Was it great, very good, solid, or average or below average?
It was very good.
It was an entertaining Super Bowl.
Yeah, I voted great.
I thought the back and forth with the score was fun.
You had some controversy with the lack of timeouts at the end of the first half,
mostly by the 49ers. No penalties. I mean mean little penalties you know that's always a great game
you know it went by quick you know it wasn't bogged down by flags on the field you know
a lot of people say which i get you know they could have had some uh holding more holding
yeah niners fans will complain about on the chief side of that i get that that's that that's fair
um but you know the the offensive pass interference call,
you could debate whether he pushed off or not.
Most people say he will, but still, it's tough to call that in that spot.
In any event, I thought it was,
for what we've gotten from the Super Bowls over the last few years,
I thought that was right up there with some of the best.
Oh, thank you for voting in the poll, by the way.
And yeah, it was better than last year.
Okay, next question.
Well, I'll go to this one since you brought it up.
What did you think of the timeout situation at the end of the first half?
Do I need to sum it up?
I'll sum it up like this.
Each team had three timeouts left.
The Chiefs were about to punt.
They had fourth and 13 at their own 49-yard line.
Kyle Shanahan could have called his first timeout with about a minute and 50 seconds left.
He decided to play conservatively, basically go into the half of this timeout because he was concerned if they go three and out,
the Chiefs use all their timeouts or give Mahomes the ball back, possibly at midfield.
So I actually thought either decision could have been fine, but I don't picture the 49ers lining up in a two-minute drill and going down the field.
That's just not what they do. Well, they sort of did.
If Kittle's catch counts, they're right there for a field goal
or potential for a touchdown.
So they went right down the field.
Well, they didn't try, though.
That would have saved some face for sure if that penalty didn't happen.
But they did that with no timeouts, though.
They did it with no time.
That's true.
Yeah, I thought either decision would have been okay.
I was fine with it.
What did you think?
Should he have called the timeouts?
So the reason why he didn't call a timeout before the punt was because he was worried
that the punt could get downed inside the five and then if you're downed inside the five then
the chiefs are going to use their timeouts while you're trying to run to just get out of the shadow
of the end zone so i get that but then just that first play where they ran they were looking for
an explosive run that's what shannon said after the game they got a decent run and they just let the clock keep ticking at some point i would have used one
of those three timeouts but it took a while he ran like two plays off before he actually did i
don't think he did i i think i think the chiefs did no the chiefs did on third down and then they
they got a big play for a first down yeah Yeah, I don't remember exactly what he did, but he used the timeout.
He used one in the drive.
He used one after the Chiefs called timeout on third down.
Then they converted like a 20-yard play to Jeff Wilson,
and then he called timeout, and then you had the Kittle play,
which got called back, and then he just took a knee.
That's exactly what happened.
That's a minute and 50 seconds that the 49ers
potentially could have managed better and then they got the
ball back to start the third quarter and they ran like five minutes worth of plays then and they
only got three points so between both of those times that's when a team like the Patriots usually
scores two touchdowns and that's the difference between champions and not it doesn't have to be
touchdowns just putting points on the board I mean you're giving your chance to you know it's it's a
different game if it's 23-10 as opposed to 2010 you know the more pressure on on the board. I mean, you're giving your chance to, you know, it's a different game if it's 23-10 as opposed to 20-10,
you know, the more pressure on the Chiefs.
Sure.
I will say this.
I thought the 49ers, when they held them to a field goal
in the first half, if they would have been down 14-3,
I don't know if they would have recovered from that.
All right, next question.
Was it pass interference on George Kittle?
It was, but I don't know if you call that.
How often do you see a call like that during the regular season?
15, 20, 30?
Does that matter, though?
If it was pass interference, you call it.
You call it.
Yeah, but we see receivers push off all the time, and there's no flag.
I thought it was an awkward time.
You know, they're hand-fighting.
I don't think it was so blatant that that's what made the play.
Fair.
Okay.
Best commercial. Jamie, I know you can't answer that. My favorite of the ones that I what made the play fair okay uh best commercial jamie i know you
can't answer that my favorite of the ones that i saw was the bill murray one the ground yeah i mean
that was great that was great yeah that was the fact that they got excellent it was awesome uh-huh
yeah cheetos for me with the mc hat where they can't touch this was great too uh but i didn't
really pay that much attention best food you ate last night i had a
boxed peanut butter and jelly sandwich for the auxiliary meeting oh no that's great uh my wife
makes a killer spinach and artichoke dip and we got wings so i'm fat and i dipped the wings into
the spinach and artichoke dip that's good it was really really good oh i had a good spinach and artichoke dip at
yard house before before i left for the stadium we all had spinach and artichoke dip yesterday
the best thing i ate was the cookie cake what no go ahead finish i got a good story for you
the cookie cake was very funny it was so generic it just had the big game written on it in icing i was like you should have had special event 54 on the cookie cake dave um yes when you uh when you have people over to your
house yeah uh and it's planned okay how often how early do you extend the invitation for people to
come over for the most part oh it could be as soon as a couple of hours or a couple of days
okay most people do a couple of days.
Thank you.
Right?
Yeah.
Okay, to be courteous, right?
Yeah.
What are you doing this weekend?
Nothing?
You want to come hang out?
So, as most people who listen to us are aware, we have a former colleague who's, you know,
friends with all of us, but lives within proximity of our esteemed host, Adam Mazur.
This person may have introduced Adam to his wife.
I don't know.
Their wives may be best friends since college.
Yeah, he invited Nando to his...
Wait, he didn't invite Nando.
His wife...
Yes, I did.
No, I didn't.
Okay, maybe you did.
I did.
I did.
So he invited Nando, who has a...
How old is his daughter now?
Almost two?
Yeah.
No, almost one no like
like 15 months right like 15 months somewhere between one and 16 months uh uh hey uh would
you believe azar just invited me to uh to his party uh just just today oh he was not happy
look we we we settled on having a party on saturday i invited him no no no no no you told us
you were having a super bowl party last week oh then it was friday friday no i didn't go to lunch
you told me thursday you told me thursday crap all right well it was it was only but it was only my wife's family. And then it was...
Okay, so anyway, best food I ate was cookie cake.
And how did you do with prop bets and DFS?
I was terrible with my prop bets.
I did not expect a huge game from Damian Williams.
I thought the tight ends would have better games.
So I didn't make them, thankfully.
But prop bets, DFS, how did you guys do?
I did not partake in any DFS, and I lost one unit in prop bets.
Each unit for me is $1.
I lost $1.
I did go DFS.
I did not make any prop bets.
Okay, the funny prop bets, like the, well, okay,
the Mahomes rushing yards thing was crazy because he lost 15 yards.
That was ridiculous. Yes. Well, okay, the Mahomes rushing yards thing was crazy because he lost 15 yards on three kneel downs.
That was ridiculous.
Yes.
I thought that was like a football faux pas
to do something like that when you're taking a kneel down.
Like Greg Sciano would have told his guys to beat him up
and get a flag if that happened.
It worked out because it basically timed it perfectly
to be able to run out the clock with that long pass.
Everybody was taking the over on that on his rushing yards, which was around 30, depending on where he got it.
I saw one.
He went way over.
Two of the guys I was sitting next to, one got it at 30, one got it at 35.
Yeah, he went over both of those until the kneel downs, and he ended up with less than 30.
So that was crazy and then we were
in the car uh you know radio row was really far away from where dave and heathen and i live or
my parents live and i was staying so we had long car rides every day in a ton of traffic and we
were talking about prop bets and one that came up was uh debo was over under on players who would throw a pass in the game.
It was two and a half.
And I think we said we would take the over.
And Debo Samuel was going to throw.
Remember?
He had the ball.
He was going to throw.
He was looking.
And then he ran.
And I don't think anyone else other than the quarterbacks threw.
Yeah, so that went under.
So, a couple notes from Ben Schrager.
Jimmy Garoppolo.
What about your terrible halftime take?
Oh, I forgot to ask about what you thought about halftime.
I thought it was awful.
What's wrong with you?
Well, I kind of knew I wasn't going to like it
because I thought, honestly, those two artists,
they're not relevant.
I don't like any of them.
They're not relevant?
What?
When was the last time they did anything in pop culture?
I mean, whenever, whenever, whenever, wherever.
It was so long ago.
Jenny from the Block was so long ago these are not these are not like i i just thought i didn't i don't care
for their music and it was just like sexy dancing what is oh who wants to see that right that's
terrible but it was also like it was extremely entertaining i thought it was a very entertaining
half it was well done i don't care that shakira and J-Lo don't have a new album out that they're promoting.
They put on a hell of a show.
The choreography was amazing.
I didn't know half the songs that were on there.
I still enjoyed it.
I'm sorry that this couldn't be a Bryan Adams acoustic solo act at half.
Wait, wait, he's relevant though.
He's relevant.
Yeah, right.
He's relevant.
He's relevant to Adam's world.
He's got better songs than them.
I mean, if you're going to get people who aren't current,
they should be legendary like you two when they did the halftime show or Prince.
I'm sorry.
Lady Gaga doesn't have to be relevant.
She's like legendary even at her young age.
And those two aren't legendary?
J-Lo to me.
No, no.
To me, they're not.
They're not.
I think J-Lo is legendary
in terms of just like
all forms of entertainment.
Yeah, she's an entertainer.
Yes, like we don't know her
just for her singing.
She's also proven to be
an accomplished actress,
and she does more than that.
And I would say Shakira
is a legendary performer
because she does things,
obviously, in different languages
that make her legendary
to different sections of the world.
Yeah. But yeah.
All right.
I thought it,
it encaptured Miami and South Florida.
Very,
very well.
I thought it was great.
Yeah.
I guess I just didn't really care about that.
Okay.
All right.
Ben Schrager gave me a couple of notes.
Jimmy Garoppolo was one for nine for 20 yards and two interceptions when he
was pressured.
He did not compete past over 20 yards.
And a lot of that came in the fourth.
Yeah.
Right.
I'll give you an ESPN note.
I want to see what they're going to do to either bring back Emmanuel Sanders
or replace him.
You know, is it going to be a rookie?
Is it going to be maybe Dante Pettis gets another shot?
You know, what's the plan to upgrade this receiving core?
Because, you know, Sanders is a fine number two.
I think if they did throw the ball more, we'd see production from him we saw it you know two of the three games
that grappolo let it loose he was productive in those two games so that's one that i want to see
what that spot's going to be um and i think that'll be interesting to see what emmanuel sanders does
you know does he want to try and get back with the 49ers and see if they can make another run
because they're certainly poised to do so?
Or does he just chase dollars and try to get one more last payday?
By the way, everything that you just talked about,
we're having totally different conversations on today
if Garoppolo hits Sanders for that deep ball inside of two minutes.
He was off by like three or four yards.
It was a bad overthrow.
But if he hits him there we're talking about
garoppolo winning theoretically winning the super bowl being the mvp where do you draft him in
fantasy next year is he a potential starter is emmanuel sanders gonna stay right no and he even
if he doesn't he cashes in somewhere else like that's how close things were in this game and
how they are and pretty much everything he's potentially over 300 yards or right around 300
yards um or 280 you know at least that would have been a prop bet that he would have hit
um and it would have been two touchdowns one interception you know because you know take
away the last one at the end it changes so much if he just makes that one throw if he makes that
he also had sanders and and this was the other player i was referring to uh you know where it
looked like he got held um it was you know looked looked like some sort of a post route.
And Shanahan went nuts.
He thought he was held.
And it's hard to really see where Sanders came out of his break and where the contact was, if it was in five yards or not.
But that's another play that Garoppolo missed.
He had some nice throws and some good play design.
The Jeff Wilson play you referenced at the end of the half,
that was a brilliant play call.
But there were just some tough things from Garoppolo.
Yeah, the stat I wanted to give from ESPN, from Nick Wagner of ESPN,
the Chiefs blitzed on 54% of Jimmy Garoppolo's dropbacks,
their highest blitz rate since 2011 against Tim Tebow.
So how about that?
Spags with a good job there, a good game plan.
I guess at least at the
end, they really dialed it up. Frank Clark said after the game that if they held him to around
200 yards, they felt they were going to win because they didn't think that they were going
to have the same success running and they wanted to make him throw. So they said if he can get
above 200 yards, they feel like they're going to be in a good spot. And that's essentially what
happened. The run game, despite the fact that they had a 10-point lead, just wasn't there.
The fact that Damian Williams outrushed both Raheem Mostert
and Tevin Coleman by himself,
that speaks volumes to how this game unfolded.
For the Chiefs defense, it's going to be interesting.
Chris Jones said after the game,
we're coming back, we're going to win this again next year,
we're going to repeat.
He's a free agent.
That's a big, big key to that defense
and what the Chiefs defense can look like next year.
A lot of good a lot
of good players there that finally clicked at the end of the season as we saw it was essentially
that titans game in week 10 they they they changed and they flipped things the run defense specifically
but but as a whole and and we'll see uh brashad breland played an amazing game he had the
interception had a big tackle in the first half uh he did a really nice job in that game too but
you know again i don't still think that they were challenged very much you know it's it's something
that i'd like to see more from that 49ers passing attack
and you know could have been a little bit different with this game and the other note from ben trager
damian williams is the first player in super bowl history with 100 plus rush yards and a receiving
touchdown and based on what i heard earlier i think all three of us feel like he should have
won mvp jamie said that i think d Dave agreed. I don't. I don't agree.
But I understand the case for it.
Yeah, Mahomes was a bigger
part of it for Kansas City.
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See if there's anything else I wanted to give statistically.
The Niners gained 59 yards on their last four possessions.
That's not good.
That was not very good.
No.
Okay, so let's get into the questions for Kansas City and for San Francisco.
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questions Patrick Mahomes or Lamar Jackson I've gone back and forth since the end of the season.
Right now I feel like Mahomes just because of what happens to the number one quarterback.
They always seem to struggle after finishing number one the year before.
There's just not a lot of repeat performances in that regard.
So I'll probably flip-flop 10 more times before we get to August.
But right now Mahomes.
Probably just a little recency bias.
I've got Mahomes in there too.
I had it before the super bowl
i'm already starting to like his schedule for next year because not only does he play
the teams in the west he's got afc east there's a couple of weak defenses in there and the nfc
south i'm looking at those defenses and i don't think they're going to be able to hold them i'm
not sure what defense is really going to be able to hold down patrick my home this is the worst
he's played this is the work that you'll get if you're 286, 2-2 with 29 rushing yards on top of that
and three total touchdowns, you'll take it.
And look at what he did at the beginning of the 2019 season,
three straight games with huge numbers.
Lamar did it for a whole year, and I totally get that,
but I wonder if there's going to be ways that teams prepare for Lamar Jackson.
I think Jackson will end up having a tougher schedule than Mahomes,
and defenses are going to be more up to slowing them down.
Even if it's just those two games against Pittsburgh.
I also think that there's a chance that Baltimore adds something
to their passing game, and if that happens,
then there's going to be a switch there too.
So there's a lot of moving parts between these two quarterbacks,
but for now, I agree with you.
I think Mahomes is the safer of the two,
but I wouldn't mind having either one.
When are you drafting Damian Williams?
Round three to four-ish.
Maybe three in PPR, but not before round three in non-PPR.
It's just you can't stay healthy.
It's just something that's following.
And you know that there's going to be something added there, right?
So maybe round four at the earliest is what I should say.
This is 2014, so this is six years in the league,
and he's never played 16 games, especially as a starter.
And this was his first season with more than 50 carries.
So, yeah, he just doesn't have that workload.
Would you take, let me just look up our latest mock draft
to see where he went.
Damian Williams or Devin Singletary? Sing singletary singletary right now snap call okay uh is darwin thompson
worth drafting jamie i think we talked about him being a potential sleeper a couple weeks ago
no last week when when i spoke to him on media night yeah uh absolutely if if he's the second
guy uh on the depth chart, then for sure.
You know, if you're looking at Williams missed five games and parts of others,
if they don't bring anybody in significantly,
they can drop somebody late.
They did it with Thompson last year.
You know, it was a six-round pick out of Utah State,
and he's not the biggest guy.
I felt bad for him because when Williams had the run to set up the first touchdown
and his helmet popped off, Thompson came in, and I was like like oh wow he's gonna get a touchdown all right you got that
shot that's such a probably a feel-good moment for for a rookie in that spot and he got stuffed
and then uh then mahomes ran it in so um but if he's if he's the number two running back there
then he's going to be very uh very appealing for a lot of reasons and you'll you'll love the idea
of drafting him if you take damian williams first
on draft day and i rushed into darwin thompson a little too much we still had him as a second
half of the draft type of pick this past year but uh it was pretty clear that he needs a little bit
more time to mature and be a better football player and And hopefully this offseason, that's what he does. Tyreek Hill or Travis Kelsey?
Who do you draft first?
Kelsey.
Kelsey.
Who did you draft first this past year?
Hill.
But, well, they were like right in suspension.
Oh, right, right, right, right, right.
Before the suspension scenario, it was Hill for me.
I think it was Hill for me too,
but they were both right in that range between 10 and 15 overall
where I would have taken them.
I wouldn't have minded starting my team with Kelsey and Hill.
Yeah, I mean, Hill's really interesting because he's not, you know,
I think I might take Hill ahead of Kelsey in non-PPR,
but in PPR he's worse than a lot of wide receivers
because he's probably going to be about an 85 catch guy, which isn't great.
But since he gets 15 yards per catch or more,
he's probably going to be a 1,300-yard guy receiving-wise,
which is really good, which in three of the last four years,
there have only been three or four wide receivers
who have had 1,300 receiving yards.
And he's probably going to catch 10 or more touchdowns
based on 16 games last year
and his 16-game pace this season if you take out week one when he only played 12 snaps.
So those are really good numbers.
And he had the other injury too, which sort of hurt him.
And who knows how healthy he was when he first came back from the shoulder injury.
The numbers were there in those first couple games.
But you just don't know where he was physically and everything.
And that may have led to some of the lack of elite production.
But if you're getting 2018 Tyreek Hill, you're taking him maybe in the first 10 picks.
Yeah, I'll just give one last thing on Hill.
So in 2018, he was the number one wide receiver in non-PPR, number three in PPR.
In 2019, I'm taking away the Jacksonville game he barely played.
If I look at the other games, his uh per game numbers based on his healthy games he was the
number uh three number five wide receiver in non-ppr number eight in ppr pretty good body
work you know so you you know what you're getting um and again you know this is a receiving core
that's going to be a little bit in flux the sam Sammy Watkins come back? As we saw in the postseason, Sammy Watkins was great.
You know, three straight solid games, you know, not dynamic ones.
The last two were very good, but, you know, the one against the Texans
where he just had the two catches for over 70 yards, that's not great.
But, you know, if you're getting those three games worth of production consistently,
that'd be a nice receiver to have.
But how much more does Mikiko hardman take over how much
more do they you know or do they bring in somebody else with the marcus robinson a free agent um
you know his his 14 million dollar price tag is is hard to justify now tyree kills it after the game
we've gotten in the playoffs the buffalo sammy watkins and that receiver was pretty special when
he was on the field so um it's going to be interesting to see how they sort of build around
or keep the same at that position.
Okay.
And then I guess if you want to answer one more question, it's Sammy Watkins.
Do you still think he can be – I don't know if he could be great, you know,
because at times he's been really great in his career.
But could he be a number two wide receiver, depending on where he ends up?
A number two fantasy wide receiver, top 24 guy.
I would have a hard time taking him.
I wouldn't draft him as a number two guy,
but I think he'll be in that number three,
number four receiver range for a lot of people.
If he's with the Chiefs, I think that's the case.
If he goes someplace else,
that's going to be the determining factor.
But this is now three years of Sean McVay, Andy Reid,
and he's been good at times.
A couple times he's been great.
But for the most part, it's just been tough to trust, you know,
whether due to injury or – and he talked about this.
You know, he said, you said, I've struggled with injuries.
I've been labeled a bust.
Now I'm a Super Bowl champion.
And his big play came against Richard Sherman.
That was a nice move that he made to get open,
and the throw obviously was brilliant.
But you just don't see it enough consistently.
And this year was probably the most frustrating of the post-Buffalo tenure
because with Tyreek Hill missing those four games and after that big game in week one, you thought,
wow, this is such an amazing opportunity for him. Maybe things have clicked. He stayed healthy,
really, for the majority of the season. And it just was disappointment after disappointment.
A lot of it was the lack of the touchdowns, but he's just not been consistent enough for what his
talent level is and in the opportunities he's been given to play with Jared Goff
when he was coming up and McVay and Mahomes when he was the MVP
and just not producing week in, week out.
He has four games with 14 or more PPR points in his last two seasons.
24 games.
Wow. Wow. Okay.
So let's go to our San Francisco questions here.
Should Jimmy Garoppolo be drafted in a 1QB league?
No.
No.
And even if he had connected with Emmanuel Sanders on that big score,
I don't think I would change my answer.
And I don't think it's just a 12-team league.
I don't think it's a 14-team league.
I don't think it's a 16-team league.
There's just so many good quarterbacks.
You know, it's just not,
he's not at that point right now
where you're drafting him to be your guy.
Joe Burrow or Jimmy Garoppolo?
Burrow.
I agree.
I'm taking Burrow.
Yeah.
The only case for Garoppolo is that
Shanahan's amazing
and Garoppolo's yards per attempt
is going to be very high.
And so, almost certainly.
And if he throws more, maybe he could turn that into something.
I'd love for that to be wrong.
I'd love for him to be a starter for fantasy because I think he can be.
But just what we've seen this year does not make you feel comfortable enough
to put him in that category.
Next question.
Do you want a San Francisco running back?
At the right spot on draft day sure i i wouldn't want to reach for mostert i'm certain that whether coleman stays or goes because he
could be a cap casualty i doubt whether they keep brita it's not that big of a cap hit if they let
them if they keep them so i agree with you but the the potential is there i don't know what they
really think of tevin coleman at this point i think they think very highly of him the fact that most are just came off a 200 yard performance
and four touchdowns and coleman got the first carry yeah but they i mean most are almost never
got the first but that's the point i had the first snap two games but that's the point is that coleman
was the guy the first playoff game they gave him 22 carries after most had been so successful for
them down the stretch adam's references all the time his yards per attempt has been fantastic
it's just they do not seem to say raheem most you're our guy we're going to lean
on you you're going to carry us okay that's right until the guy who they seem to want to favor
got hurt and had to leave the game on a cart so i think if it comes back the same scenario this year
we talked about this you know coming off the the playoff game last year, talking about it last week. If I can get
Tevin Coleman cheap, I'm going to get
Tevin Coleman cheap. Just like you said, it comes down to value.
I'm not going to reach for Raheem Mostert if I have
to reach for him. If he falls, I'll take him at
the right price.
Where is that spot for Mostert? Is that round 7?
I think he's gone by then.
If it's just these two. I think he is too.
But that's where I would
want to get him.
He went in round seven in our PPR draft.
In non-PPR, he'll go earlier than that.
But he also did that draft before the two playoff games.
Right.
Yeah, but Coleman had five carries yesterday.
So I know he got three on the first drive.
He got two the rest of the game.
So I don't want to make it sound like they were really leaning on Tevin Coleman. They obviously no no no a lot more work yeah they I was I was watching when Mostert was coming in and it was
obvious rushing downs he had the one catch in the game which you know uh it was I think it was in
the first half yeah and so the the prop was two catches um and I was like oh because I kept telling
people take the take the under on that because he just never catches the ball um and that's what I
think hurts his fantasy value is that he's not involved in the passing game.
But, you know, Coleman,
I still think he's just in the way.
And that's the problem for Raheem Mostert.
He's the guy that Kyle Shannon has the rapport with. And maybe that changes in the offseason.
Maybe it's like, okay, I got to reevaluate.
And Raheem Mostert was so good for us.
And, you know, after what they did to the Packers,
maybe Shanahan takes a deeper dive
into this game in particular and says,
maybe if we gave Raheem Mostert 20 carries again,
the score is different when we're up 20 to 10.
I don't know, but I like Mostert better.
I just don't think Coleman is going to be out of the way enough
that makes Mostert a great fantasy option.
And I think if the 49ers can improve on Coleman,
they have the option to.
We just don't know what's going to be out there and who they like.
And this is a pretty decent group of running backs in the draft
that can be complementary running backs, not lead guys.
Those are the types of guys that the 49ers like to find.
I don't think that's a route that they go
because I think they really like Jeff Wilson.
He could end up taking a spot.
I don't think he takes a spot,
but I think he takes the Breida-McKinnon roster spot.
They still have McKinnon, too.
I mean, I would be surprised if McKinnon ended up being a factor.
But Brita's a restricted free agent.
We'll see what happens there.
So I think it's going to be still a tandem committee, however you want to view it,
with the two guys at the top being the two guys who played the most in the Super Bowl,
of Coleman and Mostert, and then we'll see who the third guy is
because that's going to be really an interesting position.
Mostert, last five games of the regular season,
he was a top 10 running back,
eighth in non-PPR, tenth in PPR,
and he did that with the 20th most rush attempts
and with six catches.
So obviously he has to be incredibly efficient.
He averaged 5.9 yards per carry,
and he scored seven touchdowns in those five games,
six on the ground.
But you can't really rely on that type of efficiency.
We need more touches.
Next question for the 49ers.
Deebo Samuel, the young up-and-comer,
or A.J. Green, the old guy who's always hurt.
Who would you rather have next year?
Is A.J. Green with the Bengals?
Yes. I don't know if I mind A.J. Green with the Bengals? Yes.
I don't know if I mind A.J. Green with the Bengals.
No, no, that's what I'm asking.
Because if he's, I don't know, Tampa Bay with...
Well, that would be good.
That would be bad.
Oh, if he's the third receiver.
Yeah, if he's in Tampa Bay with Phillip Rivers, I hate that.
You know what I'm saying?
Or New England with Jared Stidham.
You know what I mean?
There are a few scenarios at play here where A.J. Green can get worse.
I'd probably still take A.J. Green, but it's close.
I think I have Debo higher, but it's just because I'm kind of gaga for him.
So I'm not sure if I would keep that.
I agree it's close.
And when do you draft George Kittle?
I think you're going to say round two, but give me a little bit more specifics there.
Round 15.
Yes. Just tell everybody else in your league not to take them it's toward the end of round two beginning of
round three okay so basically where i was drafting them this past year chris godwin or george kittle
godwin godwin cool okay radio row was really fun we're gonna tell you about it we're gonna take a
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So a little bit different now.
We're just going to kind of recap, highlight how fun last week was.
It was really cool.
It was my first time on Radio Row.
And Ben Schrager's on the show now.
I imagine it was your first time on Radio Row.
Yeah, it was my first time as well.
Had a great time hanging out with you guys,
hanging out with players and talking to media members
who we read about all the time but don't get to talk to every day.
And Dave, thanks for driving.
You're welcome.
Yeah, a lot of driving.
How did I do?
You were great.
You were great.
I would have given you five stars and a tip.
Hey.
Yeah.
Excellent.
And Jamie was super busy hosting a ton of stuff on HQ.
I really hope everybody had a chance to check it out.
It was really HQ at its best.
A ton of great interviews.
Saquon Barkley, Christian McCaffrey.
Oh, what was the Christian McCaffrey story, Jamie?
So if you know Pete Prisco drink and you know that he hates running backs.
So we had literally back-to-back the total opposite of running backs that he loves and he hates.
We had Derrick Henry, who was with us as part of Fantasy Football today and then Christian McCaffrey
jumped on
I think
you were on Adam right with Henry? No, I was on
with Henry. You and Dave jumped
off and Pete Prisco and Brian McFadden
got on the show with
McCaffrey. So I was asking McCaffrey
about his year and all that stuff and then we were talking
about Matt Rule and then
B-Mac who is the Steelers cornerback,
two-time Super Bowl champion,
he says to McCaffrey, he goes,
so this guy next to me, points at Pete,
hates running backs.
And doesn't think that you guys are worth anything
because you're interchangeable.
And McCaffrey sort of like was caught off guard a little bit
and i said well let me let me let me let me defend pete for a second here i said he doesn't like
derrick henry type running backs of guys that just run between tackles and don't necessarily
catch the ball he loves guys like you and mcafree went on to say he doesn't really consider himself
a running back he considers himself an offensive weapon because he just had 100 catches over a
thousand yards receiving and he said a lot of receivers don't do that, which I think is very smart by him to sort
of say, I'm about to get paid, so don't pay me a running back salary.
And then Pete says to McFadden, he goes, well, now that you threw me under the bus, and he
goes on to have this great conversation with McFadden, which you could see on CBS Sports
HQ if you download it and watch it on demand or just check it on CBSSports.com.
You can find it there.
They had a great conversation about running backs
and just how guys like McCaffrey are difference makers because,
as Pete calls them, airbacks because of what they do in the passing game.
Fast forward to the next day.
Pete is doing a hit outside of the convention center,
which is where we are, the Miami Beach Convention Center.
McCaffrey is on his way to the NFL honors McCaffrey stops goes over to Pete and says
uh I thought that was really cool conversation that we had is there any way to continue it now
Pete's going to go have a sit down with McCaffrey in uh in Charlotte leading up to the season and so
that whole exchange of BMAC throwing him under the bus um has now uh led to what could be a nice
exclusive for us at CBS Sports of
arguably the best fantasy running back.
So I think it was kind of cool.
And didn't McCaffrey tell you something about the type of fantasy league that he appreciates?
So for anybody that watched our show live, or I don't know how much it came over on the
audio portion of the show, but with every player, and this is the second year I've done
this, I have them look into the camera, tell them why the fantasy player should draft them.
And you get some guys that are really into it.
Melvin Gordon, for two years now, I think has been one of the best, if not the best.
He definitely was in the 2019 Super Bowl.
But McCaffrey said – for him specifically, I said look into the camera and tell everybody why you should be the number one overall pick.
And he said, I'm going to continue to do what i did this year um you know put up the catches give you yards you
know i try not to fumble uh and he said you know people come up to me all the time and say you're
great in ppr i don't know what that means but and we sort of joked him like oh you're great because
you catch the ball he goes i'm all for the ppr it was it was it was one of the better ones as well
so essentially like they're like wrestling promos.
Cut a promo and tell everybody,
he should be great.
Adam, we need that soundbite of McCaffrey
saying, I'm all for PPR.
We'll get that. By the way, related news
based on the Pete Prisco story,
Derrick Henry also wants a sit-down exclusive
interview with Pete Prisco, but it's
probably not going to go as well as the one with McCaffrey.
I did say to Pete and BMAC, I said, if BMAC would have done that to
you with Derrick Henry, he might have knocked you
before set over for a guy
that's about to enter a contract here, and you're saying running backs don't
matter to him. All right, so
while Jamie was doing serious
stuff, I was trying to make myself
busy and productive. Let's ask
some goofy questions. I don't remember what we were
going to start it as, but somebody said, why don't we ask
people about some of your worst takes?
We did a little bit of that.
Ben and I and Dave and Heath,
we went around and we just
found a lot of mostly media members.
The Fox people were great. They had a media
event and we were able to interview them.
Ben, who was the...
What was the best interview you think we did?
I think the best one was
Robbie Anderson. The one you did and only you? The one I did? I think the best one was Robbie Anderson.
The one you did and only you?
The one I did.
And I don't think it's the interview.
I think it was one of the questions we were asking was waffles, pancakes, French toast, rank them.
And he said he didn't like waffles.
Don't give it away.
We're about to do this, bro.
Come on.
Yeah.
Carissa Thompson was the standout to me.
She was awesome. So you'll hear from her. Pete Pr Thompson was the standout to me. She was awesome.
So you'll hear from her.
Pete Prisco was a great curmudgeon.
You'll hear from him.
All right, so some of the questions.
Let's start with a football question we asked. We asked a few people, if you were starting an NFL franchise,
would you rather have Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes?
You're going to hear from Robbie Anderson, Carissa Thompson,
who hosts the pregame stuff for Fox, and Drew Rosenhaus, who's a superstar agent.
So here we go.
Quarterbacks, would you take Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes
if you were starting a franchise?
Robbie Anderson, Carissa Thompson, Drew Rosenhaus.
I have a football question for you.
Starting a franchise, Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes?
I'm going with my boy LJ.
LJ.
Yes, sir.
Lamar Jackson or Patrick Mahomes if you're starting a franchise?
Lamar Jackson. Why? I totally respect Patrick Mahomes but you know it duels for a quarter.
I work with Michael Vick and you know I remember sitting on set with Terry Bradshaw. I go Terry
don't you wish that you had Michael Vick's legs and he's like yeah because the ability to be able
to do to be that dual threat quarterback is just another you know tool in the toolbox
Mahomes or Lamar Jackson if you had to pick one for your for your NFL team I uh as great as Lamar
Jackson is boy that's a toss-up it would just depend what kind of offense I had you know I
I think if you had uh if you had a scheme it would be dependent on which fits either player so that's
a toss-up well he he's not gonna that's a rosenhouse is not gonna offend anyone dave like
he's gonna play it safe with his answers uh who would you guys rather have jackson or mahomes if
you're starting a franchise today it's mahomes a year from today it could be jackson i think it's gonna be my homes
for a little while because my homes i have a feeling has a lot more longevity than lamar
jackson sure it's a thousand percent my homes just because of the way that they play it's such
an easy one for me i'm definitely taking my homes there okay ask some people about their favorite
sports movie slash is jerry mcguire a sports movie This is mostly me trying to convince everyone that it is not a sports movie.
So you're going to hear from Kurt Menefee,
Pete Prisco, Brad Evans, a fantasy analyst,
Carissa Thompson, and Brian Mitchell.
All right.
What is your favorite sports movie?
And, well, you'll hear the questions, I guess.
Here we go.
What is your favorite sports movie?
My favorite sports movie?
Well, okay.
My favorite movie is ferris bueller's
day off not a sports movie no but there's a scene where he goes to the cubs game the cubs are
playing the brakes right so does that count no because my follow-up question is is jerry mcguire
a sports movie and if you're even putting ferris bueller in the discussion then you know which way
it's going right it's gonna be tough Okay, how about Rookie of the Year?
Yeah, sports movie.
Yeah, okay.
That will go there.
It's a good one.
Yeah, okay.
Heat up the ice cubes.
Yeah.
What is your favorite sports movie?
Remember the Titans.
Great movie.
Is Jerry Maguire a sports movie?
Yes.
Why?
Because it's about the agent business and football.
Yes.
It's a love story.
There's basically no football in it.
Name three players from Jerry Maguire. I can't. Because it's not a no football in it. Name three players from Jerry Maguire.
I can't.
Because it's not a sports movie.
Name three players from the Titans.
Can you?
Yeah, of course.
Go ahead, give me three.
Sunshine, Bertone, Petey.
Bertier.
Bertier, Petey.
Petey.
Bertone, you didn't get any.
Give me two and a half.
Give me one more.
You know, Bertier's buddy.
Julius.
Julius, yes. Sorry, that's four. They took buddy, the one who became Julius. Julius.
Yes, sorry, that was poor.
And they took liberties in the movie because I've done a lot of research on it and they
really wasn't, supposedly weren't as close as they portrayed in the movie.
Really?
Yeah.
Favorite sports movie?
Oh, God, that's tough.
Major League probably for me.
Same here.
Give him the heater, Ricky.
You kind of sound like him.
You could be Lou Brown.
Well, it's because, you know, it's like my third day in Miami, day in Miami. So I get a little velvety after that amount of time.
Tomorrow, I will have no voice.
So it's a good thing we're doing this now.
And finally, is Jerry Maguire a sports movie?
Yes, of course it is.
Think about it.
Think about it.
Because that's everybody's initial reaction.
But there's barely any sports.
Well, there are sports.
There's a sports backdrop.
It's like, is Gremlins a Christmas movie?
No.
Yes, it is.
It's Die Hard, a Christmas movie. Yes, it is. See, if you think that, then obviously you think Jerry Maguire. sports backdrop it's like is gremlins a christmas movie no yes i don't know i you know i haven't
seen die hard a christmas movie yes it is if you think that then obviously you think jerry
mcguire so you've been right on some you got about a 50 you did okay that sounds like my
fantasy predictions every year that's not bad is jerry mcguire a sportsman yes sure he's not that
much sports you asked me the question i gave you the answer now you're pushing me because i don't
agree with you so i'm trying to get you. I'll start asking you questions here.
Who will you take number two overall in the fantasy draft?
I'll take Saquon Barkley.
What's your favorite sports movie?
My favorite sports movie, Bryan Song.
Bryan Song.
Okay, is Jerry Maguire a sports movie?
It is.
It's about sports, but it was more about the agent, per se.
It's a good story, isn't it?
It's kind of that, you know, but it's not as much focusing on
the actual sport. It was focusing
on Jerry and everything
else that transpired off the
field. I'm not getting a lot of support for my
take that it isn't a sports movie, but that was close
enough. Thank you for your time, Brian. Appreciate it, man.
Take care. So that's Brian Mitchell, former
Redskins running back, now doing Redskins
media. That was Carissa Thompson
ripping the paper out of my hand and asking me
questions.
Prisco was great there.
So I don't think I'm going to win that one, guys.
Bertone?
Bertone.
I have a friend whose last name is Bertone.
So I screwed that up.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
You're all on Team Sports Movie?
Of course.
Absolutely.
Yes.
We didn't get Jeff Schwartz soundbite there,
but he did think that it was not a sports movie.
So I should have included that, but I didn't.
Will you prove it?
No.
Yeah, I don't believe that one, Adam.
All right.
Well, we do have, I think he said that.
I had Mitchell Schwartz told me last night it is a sports movie.
I asked him in the middle of the scrum.
Sibling rivalry.
Okay.
Do frog and dog rhyme?
Where do you guys come out on that one?
Yes.
Yes. Yeah. Do they, dave you don't sound convinced i i just figured that everybody would know that i would say yeah
because everybody would agree that they rhyme okay i got a little controversy on this one here
we go i'll spell two words for you you tell me if they rhyme d-o-g f-r-o-g d-o-g and f-r-o-g
seem to me they rhyme dog and frog yeah it seems like they're right perfect that's all i got oh
okay do the words d-o-g and f-r-o-g do they rhyme this is brian mcfadden
yes okay some people think they do some people think they don't yeah two words tell me if they This is Bryant McFadden. Yes.
Okay.
Some people think they do.
Some people think they don't.
Two words.
Tell me if they rhyme.
F-R-O-G and D-O-G.
No, they do not.
How do you say them?
Frog and dog.
They don't rhyme.
They don't rhyme.
That's all we need to know, Pete.
That's good.
Thank you.
I'm going to give you two words.
I want you to tell me if they rhyme.
Yeah. F-R-O-G and D want you to tell me if they rhyme. Yeah.
F-R-O-G and D-O-G.
Frog and dog?
Yeah.
Yeah, they rhyme.
The way you say them, they rhyme.
The way I say them is more like frog, dog.
They don't rhyme.
So, you know, it's kind of open to interpretation.
I'm going to give you two words.
I want you to tell me if they rhyme.
F-R-O-G and D-O-G.
No.
They don't rhyme. Frog, frog dog what do you think not i'll
say no correct yeah all right there we go jeff schwartz at the end they're coming through former
offensive lineman big media guy in many ways frog and dog do not ride a lot of people when they
heard that question they thought it was like some kind of trick question it wasn't they had to think for a second no wait what the hell is this what is this
moron asking it's a little bit of that it is a little bit of that i felt bad that dave had asked
drew rosenhouse that because like it seems like dave's an idiot yeah but really i'm an idiot um
all right and then here's prisco being grouchy with this question here, which was actually the
plot of the season opener to Curb Your Enthusiasm.
How long after January 1st can you say Happy New Year?
The next day.
January 4th?
I see you for the first time, but you can't say Happy New Year?
No.
Why?
It was two days ago.
Three days ago.
Yeah.
And that's Pete for you.
So I disagree.
I think it's a solid week. You could disagree i think it's i think it's solid week you could say
it what do you think no how long yeah pete's in the ballpark if you wanted to go one more day
you could three days if i see you on february 16th i have to wish you happy valentine's day
definitely not what's the difference well you don't really say Happy Valentine's.
I love you.
Oh, I guess you could.
That'd be fine.
Am I getting a present?
No, but one of those little cards with the hard candies.
I'll send that to you.
Oh, those hard candies.
I have to consult with Nando first, though.
Your honor is a poop list.
Those hard candies, really, they're basically like the Super bowl halftime show of candies oh no dave dave probably
has a different interpretation just because his kids are older but like my oldest is in second
grade and so like now he's bringing the stuff home he's like look what i got okay cool yeah
have later right in the garbage wow you throw out your kids' candy?
No, the crappy Valentine's Day ones that aren't wrapping up or anything.
That makes me wonder what happens on Halloween.
Halloween, they get a few, and then I eat the rest.
That's why I'm fat.
Yeah, that's what I do.
It's time to lose weight now that football season's over. Oh, yeah, no.
It's not.
A thousand percent.
Ben Schrager, should we do the Pancakes Waffle
House, Waffles French
Toast? I think we do it. I think we really do it.
Alright, it's a little long, so
this will be the last one for the show. We were asking,
oh, it's two minutes. We're asking people to rank
Pancakes Waffles and French
Toast. We got Chris. This, by the way, was the best
question that we asked people. Was it?
I think this is a good
interview question and something that we could always break down.? This is a good interview question and something
that we could always break down.
And Hogg is very insulted by the last question.
See, Frog and Hogg
rhyme. Dog and
Hogg don't. They kind of
rhyme. All right. How do you rank
pancakes, waffles, and French toast? Chris Myers,
celeb. Pete Prisco,
Robbie Anderson, Carissa Thompson,
and Bryant McFadden. BMAC gets deep on this.
I got Bryant McFadden and Pete Prisco.
I got some CBS guys.
Alright, here we go. Oh, I love all of those.
Okay, so I think
I'd go waffles first because they're
made fresh. I mean, at least
they come out of the iron. They couldn't have been sitting
there very long. So I'll
go with that because I like them hot, buttery,
a lot of syrup. And then I'll go French toast, because the powdered sugar usually,
and then pancakes, which I know, you know, if you put something on it, whipped cream, pecans,
that might move up the ladder, but I'm going to rank that one third at the moment. But I'm also
a big scrambled eggs guy to go with that. One waffles, two pancakes, and a distant third,
maybe not even in the picture, French toast. What do you have against French toast?
It's got eggs on it.
We love eggs.
I hate eggs.
I'm here with Robbie Anderson.
First question, waffles, pancakes, French toast.
How are you ranking them?
I hate pancakes, so that's last.
Waffles are, they'd be a little mushy with the syrup, but French toast stuffed with that
cream cheese, that's a winner a winner all right we need you to
rank three things for us waffles pancakes french toast french toast pancakes waffles not even a
second of hesitation yeah well waffle or waffles the texture is weird to me pancakes
pancakes is like a neutral it's like a it's like a meat yeah and french toast a little like
powdered sugar on the top.
Real good.
Please rank the following things.
Waffles, pancakes, French toast.
Where am I getting the waffle from?
That's the most important question.
It depends on where you're getting these items from.
All right, you're going to Denny's for all three.
Pancakes.
Followed by?
IHOP pancakes.
But for me,
Waffle House waffles trump
any of the other options.
Okay, fine.
You're at a hotel
and there's three things on the menu.
I'm taking a Waffle House waffle
and you can tell me
I can get French toast from anywhere.
Any other spot.
Or pancakes.
You're at the same place.
You're at a restaurant.
They have pancakes, waffles,
and French toast.
How are you going to rank them? It depends on the restaurant. Like IHOP, I'm getting pancakes. You're at a restaurant. They have pancakes, waffles, and French toast. How are you going to rank them?
It depends on the restaurant.
Like IHOP, I'm getting pancakes.
No, it's a hotel.
You go to breakfast at your hotel.
Give me.
The go-to is pancakes.
Pancakes.
Because you can't really mess pancakes up.
What's number two?
French toast.
The waffles?
Yeah.
I just love that.
He just got so philosophical on it, basically.
BMAC is one of my favorite people in the world.
He's just...
Whenever I get to spend time with BMAC
in the last three Super Bowls,
story time with BMAC is my favorite thing to do.
I imagine the interview...
Because I can share some of them
because they're amazing.
Well, the Troy Palamalo interview was great.
I mean, talking to Palamalo.
The off-air Troy Palamalo interview.
Right, that was better.
Okay.
All right, so let's finish. I go pancakes, w to Paul Malo. The off-air Troy Paul Malo. Right, that was better. Okay. All right, so let's finish.
I go pancakes, waffles, French toast.
I don't understand how Prisco doesn't like eggs.
It's one of the weirdest things I've ever heard.
Schrager, what do you got?
French toast, waffles, pancakes.
Easy.
Dave, Jamie?
I'm the same.
French toast, waffles, pancakes.
I go French toast, pancakes, waffles.
What is it?
I don't...
Again, I don't mean to have these crazy opinions,
but why am I one of the only people that supports pancakes?
Pancakes are so boring.
They're the safe option, but they're boring.
Pancakes at IHOP are great, though.
Pancakes almost anywhere are good.
Yeah.
But French toast has a chance to be amazing.
You're giving three very good choices.
Okay.
Well, listen.
Thanks, everybody, for indulging us um we had a good time and uh i think you know ben i i think the people that we
asked seemed they seem to enjoy not having to answer the same old questions all week like i
feel like we brought out a little fun in in radio row it was a good break and i think when we asked
them the football questions they were not as enthusiastic as the other questions so i think it was a good plan it uh like we had
a great setup with the pick six podcast guys uh for what they did with the instagram stuff
and i think anytime you get a chance to get these guys off topic you know anything that's just not
the norm like troy palomaro really enjoyed spending time with Brian McFadden.
I think the fantasy questions that we asked these guys because they got that little bit of fun with it.
The stuff that you guys asked them, sure.
But I'm sure they had fun with it.
But anytime they get a chance to do some silly stuff that's not just the same redundant, let's talk 49ers, let's talk Chiefs.
We had to do that obviously because some of the stuff that they were using just for the other shows that we do but it's just you know they don't want to
be talking about the same things over and over and over again it's just that's the fun of it
and I you know I'll just finish with this I think the interviews that I was a part of
on set with the football players the best thing I heard when we asked Kyle Van Nooy what he thought about the game, Van Nooy, Patriots linebacker, he just raved about how good Andy Reid was.
He was like, you don't understand how good Andy Reid is and how difficult it is to defend him.
I don't think he wanted to pick the Chiefs because he's buddies with Fred Warner's on the 49ers.
I don't think he made a pick.
No, because he's a free agent. You don't want to piss anybody off.
Sure. I just thought it was so interesting
to hear him praise
Andy Reid. A lot of people did.
It's been an Andy Reid love fest.
I think our Josh Jacobs
interview was fantastic because we had a lot of time with him.
He went over almost every aspect
of his life when it comes
to football. That was really cool. Our Miles Sanders
interview was great.
He was very open with us.
Stephon Diggs, I thought, was good.
I know you played some of these during the week.
Juju was fun, just because I think Juju's fun.
And then the ones that I did a little bit separate, McCaffrey was great.
DeAndre Hopkins was really good, too.
For a guy that I don't think people view as very outspoken,
he talked about some of the things that went wrong in the championship game.
Not the championship game, the playoff game, excuse me,
against the Chiefs and things that he would do different
and just some of the outlook for the season.
It was a lot of fun.
I think we had a lot of great guests,
and we were the only fantasy show on Radio Row the outlook for the, for the season. It was, it was a lot of fun. We, I think we had a lot of great guests and, um,
we were the only fantasy show on radio, you know, for the amount of time that we did it, you know,
so there were other people doing fantasy things, but you know,
for what we did for four days and, um, an hour a day, it was, it was great.
Well, thanks to, uh, great job. I mean, you guys obviously were,
were fantastic, uh, Heath as well. Um,
and just making the conversations flow and, and, mean, you guys obviously were fantastic. Heath as well. Just making the conversations flow.
And, you know, I think it shows the best of what we do.
Hopefully we can get another award here this week with FSW.
That'd be great.
And thanks to all of the crew for making it happen all week and people booking guests.
And we had so many people that did a lot and really pitched in.
And thanks to all of you guys for listening and watching.
And to Dave, Jamie, and Ben for being on the show today.
That is it.
We've got another show tomorrow and then one on Thursday.
And I think I'm going to throw in a Dak Prescott interview in there
and maybe some more interviews from the week.
Throw it in the feed as well.
Thursday we are going to be doing a rankings special on CBS Sports HQ
as we reveal our early 2020 fantasy football rankings.
So 11 a.m. Eastern on CBS Sports HQ.
We'll be doing that.
Until then.
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