Fantasy Football Today - SuperFlex Draft Review! Also: Sammy Watkins, SF RBs and More (04/06 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: April 6, 2020We'll tell you about our 12-team, PPR SuperFlex mock draft and how to approach QB in this format, but first we've got some business to take care. We react to Sammy Watkins restructuring his contract (...2:51), talk about Eric Ebron (5:30), reveal some players who have barely seen the NFL field that we are hopeful for in 2020 (10:58) and debate the value of the SF RBs (14:00) ... Getting into the mock draft (24:00), what was our QB strategy? Heath took Patrick Mahomes in Round 1, but the QBs didn't exactly fly off the board after that. We also have a more general discussion about QB depth in 2020 (34:01) ... We review our teams (37:05) and talk about the good moves and bad moves we made. Can you go Zero-RB in this format? Do the mid-range TEs make a big difference in this format? ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @YardsPerGretch, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Back from your weekend, welcome back to Fantasy Football Today.
Hope everybody had a great weekend, although the days seem to sort of blend together.
What day is it?
We're asking that a lot.
It is Monday.
It is April 6th.
It is Mock Draft Monday.
That's right.
We are reviewing a mock draft, and we're not the only podcast in the CBS Sports world that has Mock Draft Monday.
The Pick 6 podcast also Mock Draft Monday, but their mock drafts are different than ours.
They're talking NFL draft.
We're talking fantasy
drafts. In this case, a super
flex league. I'm Adam Azer with
Dave Richard, Jamie Eisenberg, and Heath Cummings.
Heath, I
don't mean to pick
a fight. Okay.
But I really don't like your super
flex team. I like it
slightly less than my bad super flex
team, but I really don't like your team. Yeah, I absolutely love my super flex team i i like it slightly less than my bad super flex team but i really don't like
your team yeah i absolutely love my super flex team which is just like every mock we've ever
done you don't like my team i love my team if you liked my team i would probably come out of
the draft saying man i got stuck with a bunch of guys i didn't really want i like so i like a lot
of your teams but i i don't like this one but But, you know, Gardner Minshew at Superflex.
Come on, Gardner Minshew.
To let you know, during the HQ segment we did on this thing,
he sends me a G-chat message.
I hate his team.
I'm going to rip it on Monday.
These things are supposed to be private.
That's perfectly fine.
I look forward to discussion.
I don't really know what there is to hate.
I mean, the running back, obviously, are a question mark. The running back. I look forward to discussion because I don't really know what there is to hate.
I mean, the running backs, obviously, are a question mark.
The running back.
I hate the running backs.
Yeah, you should know this by now with Adam.
If there's one part of your team that does not work in his mind, it's a terrible team.
His running backs are so bad, though.
I have three of, I think, everybody's top 20 wide receivers.
I have the number one quarterback and the number two tight end.
Yeah, but you have Daryl Henderson, Kareem Hunt, and Sonny Michel as your running backs.
Dave, you haven't spoken.
Good morning.
Good morning.
Oh, good morning to you.
There you go.
Dave has better running backs.
He's Dalvin Cook and Aaron Jones.
So we'll get into the Superflex draft.
And the questions about Superflex is when should you take your quarterbacks?
How important is it?
I'll give you an example of it being very important and an example of not so much.
So quick news and notes here.
We also have a question about the San Francisco running backs.
We have a question about second and third-year players that we're looking forward to seeing who haven't really
done much this year. We'll read your emails at fantasyfootball.cbsi.com.
Sammy Watkins restructured his contract with the Chiefs. They already
re-signed Demarcus Robinson this offseason. Watkins actually played in two
more games than Tyreek Hill. Really more like one more game, I guess, because he
left one game early with an injury. He had one more target than Tyreek Hill, really more like one more game, I guess, because he left one game early with an injury.
He had one more target than Tyreek Hill,
and obviously didn't do as well as Tyreek Hill.
187 fewer yards, four fewer touchdowns.
But a disappointing year.
Three touchdowns in Week 1, no touchdowns the rest of the season
until the playoffs.
But, Jamie, what's your reaction to Sammy Watkins
restructuring his contract with the Chiefs?
I mean, obviously it's good for Mahomes. It gives him
another weapon, but it's things for Nicole Hardman
and what the breakout potential could be for him.
So, you know,
there's still obviously a chance it could happen. Andy Reid's
a smart coach, but the money suggests that they're
going to still use Sammy Watkins in a big way.
So I would say we're still another
year away from Hardman having
significant fantasy value.
But, you know, the Chiefs, with what's going on,
separate from fantasy,
any of these teams that can maintain some level of continuity
and to the level that the Chiefs are doing it,
they're going to be the favorite again.
So who is the number two wide receiver
that you're drafting on the Chiefs?
Watkins, if I was drafting one.
Dave? Not drafting one. Dave?
Not drafting one.
Watkins has six games with 13-plus PPR fantasy points
in his last two seasons.
Yeah, it was such a strange year for him
because every time he had more than five targets in 2018,
he was great.
And we were talking, when we didn't know how long Tyreek Hill
was going to be suspended. We were talking about
Sammy Watkins' top 12
for sure. Really good.
And then
Tyreek Hill gets hurt. Watkins does
nothing with it. It was
odd. Heath, how about you? What's your read on the
number two wide receiver
on the Chiefs? Who is it for you?
I mostly agree that I'm not particularly
excited about drafting either Watkins or
Hardman. I don't think there's really any
argument for putting Hardman over Watkins.
The one thing I will say in defense
of Sammy Watkins, because it seems like we bag on him
a lot, he had 288
yards in the playoffs.
He was awesome
in the playoffs and the Super Bowl.
I think if he's,'s well you don't even say he plays 16 games with sammy watkins but for a 16 game pace i'd
guess he's a top 35 wide receiver somewhere in that 30 to 35 range this year he's a fine number
three in a three wide receiver league but he's going to disappoint you regularly but we can say
that about so many other receivers you know the whole name of the game when you're talking about number three receivers is
which receiver will disappoint you the least amount and i i just i get the feeling with
sammy walkins that he will just constantly make you sad well that's sort of been the story of
eric ebron's career next news item eric ebron was talking about playing with Ben Roethlisberger.
He's really excited for it.
He also said that he hurt his ankle in August,
so he played the entire year hurt,
and then he had ankle surgery,
which the Colts weren't happy about.
That's why he had so many drops?
Well, I mean,
you know he's going to drop balls,
but he was the number four tight end
in fantasy in 2018
with 13 touchdowns on 110 targets.
That's his only season with more than five touchdown catches.
The fact that he played the whole year hurt, Dave.
Does that give you hope for a bounce back this year for Ebron?
Nope.
Nope.
I'm surprised he got as much money as he did from the Steelers.
And I would imagine that they'll use him the same way that Indianapolis did,
which is kind of a red zone weapon,
a nice big target for Big Ben to lob balls up to.
Hopefully he can catch some of them.
I think he's going to be an excellent streaming tight end.
So let's just say the schedule comes out and week one they play Cleveland and week two
they play Cincinnati.
Okay, a couple games in division.
Maybe he can score in those first two games.
Maybe you take him with your second to last pick and you start the season rolling
with Ebron as your tight end, but that's what it's
going to take for me to even
consider him being on my fantasy
roster to begin the year.
It's a downgrade for the other guy.
It's a downgrade for
Vance McDonald? Are you talking about
everybody else? No, it's a downgrade for the other guy.
He's a much better pass catch and tight end than Vance McDonald. Or are you talking about everybody else? No, no. It means a downgrade for the other guy. I mean, look, he's a much better pass catch and tight end than Vance McDonald.
So he'll steal some plays, possibly some touchdowns from Juju, from Deontay, from Washington.
Does he help Big Ben a lot, enough to make him draftable?
I think Big Ben, if healthy, is going to be one of the best waiver wire ads.
I don't think Big Ben's going to get drafted just because there's so many other quarterbacks,
but he'll be in one of those.
He'll be in that group of guys that if you take a second quarterback,
especially if you take one of the,
and I'm going to use the word unproven loosely,
but the second-year quarterbacks,
the third-year, you know,
Josh Allen's, the Kyle Allen's,
the guys you're not comfortable with, per se,
for some people that are just taking them
because everybody's saying they're good,
or the older guys that may have some risks,
maybe Brady, maybe Breeze, maybe even Rodgers, those three guys.
I am getting a little nervous about what Roethlisberger's arm could look like.
We just don't know, and that would absolutely send Juju's stock to the cement.
It would be brutal so and then having eric ebron steal a couple of touchdowns over the course of the season that
would be bad too so it's a good point it's a fair point but i do think roethlisberger if his arm
checks out and he looks okay and the reports are good yes he's one of those quarterbacks that you
take as a second option if jamis can't get starting job, that's the first place he should go.
That would be a great place for him to go.
Right now.
Just remind me when we get to the mock draft review. Let's talk about the
depth at quarterback this year.
I have a controversial
take that nobody's going to agree with.
Surprise, surprise.
Tiger King is so overrated, but this is
actually a controversial finish
no i like we almost feel obligated to finish it because everybody else finished it but i don't
want to i don't well how far did you get three episodes it just gets so crazy though you have
to watch it i just don't all right all right but i try i mean look anytime something is talked
about like this the natural feeling is it's overrated.
No, I don't even think it's that good, though.
It's not even like, oh, this is good but overrated.
I'm not interested in it.
But it's more along – I don't know if, like, good is – it's well done.
You know, I don't want to take anything away from how they did it.
But it's just the fact that these people are so crazy.
That's the thing about it.
They are insane.
It's a world of insane people.
By the way, Jarvis Landry
on track in his recovery from hip surgery.
There's no specific timetable, but he is aiming
for week one, obviously.
So that's good news there on Landry.
And we've got exciting news.
So, well, first of all,
this is not exciting. This is just
show note here. We're going to be going
from Monday, Tuesday, Thursday to Monday, Wednesday, Friday for the foreseeable future.
But still three episodes at least per week.
Monday, Wednesday, Friday.
We're having our first phone call Friday this week.
So we are taking your calls.
We did this last offseason.
I believe it was really fun.
And you know we have our radio show where we take your calls for two hours.
And I just love those radio shows.
So let's hear from you. We have our radio show where we take your calls for two hours. I just love those radio shows.
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If you aren't selected, we're going to try
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I like hearing from the listeners, interacting with you guys.
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We look forward to hearing from you.
Email of the day number one is from Justin.
Which second or third year
players that haven't played an entire season
or at all yet are you most looking forward to watching this year?
Examples,
Jalen heard Bryce love Preston Williams,
et cetera.
Thanks for the podcast.
I'm an ER nurse and you guys give me something to look forward to,
to listening forward to look,
listening to on my way to work.
Thank you for what you're doing right now,
Justin.
So guys,
which second or third year players that haven't played at an entire season or
at all.
Are you most looking forward to Heath. I think there's an
obvious answer. It's Darius Geis.
He is the guy
who we thought could be a superstar
that's had two seasons derailed that could
still at some point be a superstar.
So I'm very
much looking forward to hopefully seeing him play
16 games. And then the
obvious answer for me would be Gardner Minshew.
I thought your obvious answer would be Hayden Hurst.
Well, he played 16 games last year, so I didn't think he qualified.
Did he? Okay. All right. Good for him.
I didn't check to see if he did.
He didn't do, right.
I mean, Gardner Minshew obviously did a lot more than Hayden Hurst.
All right. Darius Geis and Gardner Minshew for Heath.
Jamie?
You know, I'm curious to see TJ Hawkinson for 16 games.
I know he played, I think, 11 games last year,
so I don't know if this necessarily qualifies,
but I'd like to see what he can do in the second season,
if he can take the next step forward.
And the other guy was just more along the lines of not doing much,
was another second-year tight end, which was Irv Smith,
just to see if they can't find a true replacement for Stephon Diggs.
I don't really believe that B.C. Johnson and Tajay Sharp
are going to fill those shoes, even collectively.
So if we see more from the second tight end, similar to Dallas Goddard,
we have that type of production from the Vikings' second tight end.
And David?
For the record, I don't think Tajay Sharp will do a damn thing.
I had two names.
The first one was Nikhil Harry, although I'm not as excited to see him
because I don't know who's going to throw him the football,
if it's Brian Hoyer or Jared Sineman.
It's probably not going to be pretty, but at least we'll see him run routes,
be physical,
do a lot of the things that made him a first-round pick
in the NFL draft and in rookie-only drafts last year.
But the one that I'm really interested in seeing,
and I can't wait to go back and double-check the film on him,
is Drew Locke with Denver.
All signs point to the Broncos adding another wide receiver to their offense.
We're all expecting Noah Fant to take a big step.
Some of us are drafting Cortland Sutton as a top-12 fantasy receiver. Can this guy hold up his end of the bargain?
Because if he stinks, it's going to be bad for a lot of people in fantasy. And I'm very
intrigued by him and the direction of the Broncos offense.
Okay, I'll give one more Patriots rookie for the second year now, Damian Harris. They used a pretty high pick on him.
He had four carries as a rookie for 12 yards.
Horrible yards per carry.
Very concerned about four carries for 12 yards.
But I just think they need a better running back.
So let's see if Damian Harris can get a little more run this year.
All right, thanks, guys.
Email of the day number two is from Nick.
I've done a large number of mock draft simulations due to extraordinary time on my hands. I know there's a lot of dust
that still needs to settle with the draft and the rest of the offseason, but one thing I've
noticed is that it's been pretty easy for me to get at least two pieces of the 49ers backfields.
In 12-team mocks, I usually can get Mostert and Coleman with two of my first few bench spots.
While I'd expect that they'd move up a bit, I still really like the value of getting them as flex-slash-bench picks, Raheem Mostert and Tevin Coleman.
I would even feel comfortable if I went heavy at wide receiver and then drafted Mostert as my RB2 and Coleman for my bench or vice versa.
Obviously, the caveat is that Breida, McKinnon, and Wilson Jr. are all on the roster, but I can't imagine Mostert doesn't get some play after his performance in the playoffs,
and Coleman was the, quote, lead back for a large portion of the season.
With the info we have now, do you think drafting two of these San Francisco running backs is a good strategy,
or is it too risky?
I like it for now, especially if it stays this way and the 49ers don't actually add another running back
because there was a report that Breida wasn't a lock to even make the final roster.
Jack McKinnon's back. I don't know how big of a role he's going to end up having.
So I think between the two of these guys, you'll have one that you'll you'll feel OK starting as a flex and as a number two running back if you're really desperate.
So the price tag isn't that bad, right? You can get Raheem Mostert in round seven or so and you can
get Tevin Coleman round nine or so and that's a team that loves to run the football they do like
Jeff Wilson so I keep an eye on that one just to see what they're going to do there
are we gonna get but because like Mostert you know as much as he was great, he was a top 10 running back in the final five games of this season.
But he scored seven touchdowns in his last six games.
But in those five games, he only had 64 carries.
He was a top 10 running back because he scored six touchdowns in those last five games.
Six rushing and one receiving, actually.
But he was 20th in carries.
Tevin Coleman only had 22 carries, so he was 20th and carries tevin coleman only
had 22 carries so he was usually useless in those five games no more than five carries in those five
games i'm actually kind of concerned if everything goes as it did last year you're gonna have a
really front you're not gonna have a must-start guy by any means um most our guy you're definitely
well if everything goes like it did last year and like it has with these backs most years,
two of them are going to be hurt at some point.
And then you will have a must start back.
I mean, that's a good point.
That's a good point.
But if they're healthy, like if you just look at the playoffs,
Raheem Mostert had 12 carries in the first game of the playoffs and 12 carries in the Super Bowl.
Kevin Coleman got hurt in the second game, the game against Green Bay,
and Mostert had 29 carries, 220 yards, and four touchdowns.
And I still didn't cash in DFS.
But I'm worried that Mostert gets like 13 carries, Coleman gets five.
Neither of them gets many catches.
And then what do you have?
You have two bench players, basically.
Yeah, I mean, we said this earlier this offseason
that I think there's clearly a top two right now.
Even if Breida comes back,
there's top two of Coleman and Mostert.
And if you really want to piece this back,
you take the one that falls,
which in most cases is going to be Coleman.
By the way, what I was saying
is really more like a worst-case scenario.
It's not necessarily what I think will happen.
They still have a tremendous offensive line.
They still have commitment to run the ball.
They haven't upgraded their receiving core.
As a matter of fact, they lost the guy.
I do think that you're going to see a more aggressive Jimmy Garoppolo
and a more aggressive Kyle Shanahan.
The draft will sort of dictate that.
But you said this, Adam, when we were breaking down the NFC West,
that losing Buckner is a potential blow to their defense.
We'll see what they do to replace him in the NFL draft as well.
So the defense may not be as stingy, and they could be in some more up-tempo games,
which may put the ball in the hands of their backs,
catching it more so than running it, if that's something they decide to do.
So it is Mock Draft Monday.
It's time we move on to our Superflex
Mock Draft 12 teams PPR
5 points per passing
touchdown. A little wrinkle there.
Tell you why you really should be
treating this as a 2QB league.
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and do i have a story for you guys so we're all on skype you can see my finger here
this is my right hand oh my gosh looks pretty normal right i had a coronavirus accident uh
this is my left hand but look can you tell yeah the. See how it's like all puffy here and like I can't move my ring anymore on my ring finger.
I had an accident while staying at home and quarantining with the family and it hurt really bad.
And I figured if there was any time to get a moment of chill after hurting my finger and potentially breaking it, I don't know what the hell's going on with this thing.
It's pretty bad.
It's puffy.
I figured Coors Light would do the trick.
And so I kicked it in my backyard, had a Coors Light, grilled a steak last night.
And it just made for the best of a bad situation.
It's not like my finger stopped hurting or anything like that.
This isn't some sort of magic drink, a tonic, if you will.
But it gave me a moment to just chill out and relax and take it all in.
And, you know, happy that my family's healthy, happy that I'm about to have a steak, happy
that I'm having a beer that's cold and refreshing and it doesn't have that aftertaste that we've
talked about so much.
So it ended up
being a decent night after all although i have had to ice this thing overnight and i had a hard
time sleeping but i'll be okay life will go on and it was all helped a little bit just a little bit
by having a a coors light the mountain cold refreshment that was made to chill
celebrate responsibly coors brewing companying Company, Golden, Colorado.
Yes, and when you want to reset,
you reach for the beer that's made to chill.
And Dave, you've got to tape those fingers, man.
Do you have any tape?
Of course I've got tape.
I don't know if that's really going to help.
Oh, it's going to help.
You've got to make like a split
because you're not going to the emergency room.
No, no, no.
You've got to make a split right now.
You've got to tape the fingers together.
I'm nervous that I'm going to have to get my ring cut off.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
Yeah, I think you do.
I'm not ready to go there yet.
Do you have like a saw, Heath?
Can I come over to your house?
I do not have a saw, but my father-in-law had to cut a ring off of my finger with a saw in a very similar incident before.
And I think you need to cut your ring off.
I think that's premature.
First of all, Heath is trying to get you to cut your ring off.
That is premature.
Give it a week.
See if the swelling goes down, Heath.
Let's give him a little bit of time here, no?
Okay.
I would watch the color of that finger very closely i am it is extremely tight it is
definitely tight it looks like uh like when chris farley was doing an act and he had to put a tie on
and like his head was like way too big and the tie was tight around his neck that's what my
my my finger looks like it's all swollen fat finger it's a little black and blue on the knuckle.
Fat finger and a little ring?
Fat finger and a little ring.
Usually my ring is loose on me, so that's making it all the more troublesome here.
What happened?
I can't even get it up.
What did you do?
I was playing one-on-one against Ryan, and the basketball jammed my finger.
No, that's tough.
I'm telling you,
that's happened to me before.
And I look like the biggest wuss ever.
That's happened to me before.
You just tape them together.
You're going to be all right.
But can I ask you guys a question here?
An etiquette question.
I was driving yesterday.
I had to drop something off
for my wife for her job.
I passed a golf course.
Golf course was pretty crowded.
Parking lot was packed.
People were out there golfing, walking around.
I was really mad.
I was really mad.
And I think I'm going to call them and yell at them today.
And I'm like, I'm considering calling like the city or the county.
I'm like, really?
You can't do this.
This is not the time to be golfing, okay?
This is important stuff.
We're all sitting here.
Golf, if it's done okay, it should be safe.
You know, I don't buy that.
You're walking through the clubhouse.
What are you going to tell everybody?
Stay six feet away?
I don't buy it.
This is not the time to be going out and golfing right now.
You're right.
It's not a necessity.
But if there is a recreational activity that can be done safely, I know when this first started, obviously we're in Florida.
When this first started, before they shut down the golf courses, which they have, at least most of them as far as I know, they made everybody go in a cart by themselves.
Yep.
And they had to stay away in the clubhouse from each other.
Yeah, there's no golf here anymore.
My dad tells me they're telling you don't pull the pin
and they've put some things in the cups
where you don't have to reach as far down in to reach your ball.
It's like the little practice green cups
so you don't have to touch anything to get your ball out of the hole.
So, yeah.
I don't buy it.
But in the grand scheme of things, Adam, you're right.
There's no need to be playing golf right now.
But what's the etiquette question?
Should I do it?
Should I call them and berate them?
I don't think your phone call is going to change anything.
I think I'm considering calling local government and telling them,
shut down these damn golf courses.
Is it a private club or a public course?
I'm not sure.
There's a big difference.
Why? What would be the difference? The public course? I'm not sure. There's a big difference. Why?
What would be the difference?
The public course would be shut down.
Public course, you may have a chance of making some headway.
A private club, they're going to do what they want.
I can see the Simpsons headline now,
Local Man Ruins Everything, and it's a picture of Adam smiling.
Local Man Ruins Fun.
That's me.
All right, let's talk mock draft here.
12 teams,pr super flex
what a super flex means mean uh it means you can start any position you want at at this particular
flex there was also well any offensive position can't start a kicker or dst there's also a regular
flex where that can't be a quarterback but the super flex of course can be a quarterback and
for most people it will be a quarterback it's five point per passing touchdown. It's PPR, as I mentioned, but it's also three receivers. So quarterback, two running back,
three receivers, tight end, a normal flex, and a super flex, and a DST and a kicker.
In this format, you're saying, all right, so it's P PPR I might not get a good number two quarterback
now just throw out a wide receiver or running back in my flex well last year the number 24
quarterback so if every team had just two quarterbacks the number 24 quarterback in the
five point for passing touchdown league was Mitchell Trubisky he wasn't very good but
you compare him to other players he was the number 12 running back he
scored more points than mark ingram miles sanders todd girley chris carson kenyan drake he would
have been the number 16 wide receiver in ppr he scored trubisky scored more points than davante
adams robert woods tyler boyd aj brown and stefan diggs so let's put it simply, guys. In a super flex league, you want that to be a quarterback, right?
Yep.
All right.
Good.
We've established that.
When do you take him?
Heath, you had the fourth pick, right?
I had the fourth pick, and I took Patrick Mahomes.
In most of these leagues, I won't take a quarterback probably until the fourth or fifth round.
But if I have a chance to get Mahomes or Lamar Jackson, then I'm fine with taking them as early as number three.
And I think they've obviously shown that they can be a difference maker unlike any other quarterback.
You say fourth or fifth round.
Obviously, our Superflex League still is not super quarterback heavy. People
tend to wait a little. I mean, obviously not like
they do in a one quarterback league, but
what range are you looking at when
you're talking fourth round or so?
What's that typical
quarterback range where you start to look?
I think what I said last year was
I'm probably not going to get one
of my top 12, but I'd like to get two of my top 18.
Looking at it for this year, I think it's even deeper as far as the number two quarterbacks go.
Now, those guys may not have quite as much number one type upside, but I'm pretty much fine with quarterbacks 18 through 24 being my number two.
If I do that, though, I'm going to quickly take a number three.
If I have a number two that's kind of a borderline number two quarterback,
then I want to have another one as well.
In our mock, Drew Brees and Matt Ryan were the only quarterbacks taken in round five,
which I would think is highly unlikely to be seen in a typical super flex draft.
Those guys should go earlier.
Okay, Jamie just sent me the breakdown of when the quarterbacks went.
Two in round one, two in round three, three in round four, two in round five.
So that's nine in the first five rounds.
And then nothing in round six, but four in round seven.
A little bit of a run there.
Seven in round eight, but four in round seven. A little bit of a run there.
Seven in round eight, six in round nine.
But only nine quarterbacks for the first five rounds.
That's, would you call that surprising?
And there were 36 quarterbacks taken in the draft, including Taysom Hill, Jameis Winston, Andy Dalton,
Mitchell Trubisky, Cam Newton, Jared Stidham.
Obviously not all those guys are going to be starters,
but nine in the first five rounds, that's low. Mitchell Trubisky, Cam Newton, Jared Stidham, obviously not all those guys are going to be starters.
But nine in the first five rounds, that's low.
I think just pay more attention to where we were taking guys relative to the number of quarterbacks selected so far
and not as much relative to the round they were taking.
Jamie, what's your quarterback strategy?
You took Michael Thomas third.
Yeah, and when we were talking about the draft
and we were joking that once again,
you, me, and Heath were back-to-back-to-back
or within a few spots of each other,
I said, oh, I'm going to take Mahomes at three.
And you said, no, you won't.
I dare you.
But yeah, I was considering it.
I was considering Mahomes at three.
Yeah, I'm surprised you went.
Why did you go with Michael Thomas, by the way, instead of Ezekiel Elliott?
It was Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley, and then you went with Thomas.
Oh, I like Thomas better in PPR than Zeke.
Okay.
Dave, what's your quarterback strategy?
I'm going off of feel more than anything else.
I want to try and get two of my top 12 quarterbacks. I just
think your team will be that much better off if you get two of those better quarterbacks rather
than two of the top 18. I think two of the top 18 is a good fallback strategy, but if I can get two
of my top 12, especially knowing that I'm drafting with people that like to wait for a quarterback,
I try and do that. That's my move. I felt like in round three, Dak Prescott was a good value.
I had already taken two running backs at that point.
I was really happy with the running backs I had.
And so I took him there, and then Aaron Rodgers fell into my lap, basically,
in round seven.
Yeah.
Like, Brady went off the board.
When I saw Jamie take Tom Brady brady at 75 i went okay
the the rest of the top 12 are starting to go off the board i need to get one now
so maybe the idea is you know how i tear my quarterbacks every year and i put them into
you know bunches when i see a tier of quarterbacks running low and my pick is coming up i'm going to
try and get one of them.
And that's it. I think that's probably what I mean by feel and waiting until the time is right to take a quarterback. Because if I've got five quarterbacks left on the board that I feel
really happy with taking, and I think that one of them can make it back to me in the next round,
I'm going to take the chance that one of them will.
And when you took Aaron Rodgers, that was a very interesting moment in the draft, right?
Because we're through with six rounds,
and so far only nine quarterbacks are off the board.
And at this point, guys, through round six,
I know I had zero quarterbacks, actually.
No, I had Drew Brees.
I had one.
Heath had one.
Dave, you had... I had one. Heath had one. Dave, you had...
I had one.
You had one.
After round six.
Yep.
What do you...
After round six,
how many did you have?
Me?
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I had two.
No, through round six?
Through round six,
you had one.
Right, so we all had one.
Yeah, no, what Dave said.
I had...
Brady was my second guy
in round seven.
Yeah, so Jamie takes Brady.
Heath takes Daryl Henderson.
I take Ronald Jones.
And now we're in the middle of round seven.
And then the quarterback run.
This is what kind of made me hate my team.
Carson Wentz, Aaron Rodgers, Matthew Stafford, Baker Mayfield,
Daniel Jones, Jared Goff, Jimmy Garoppolo.
All gone by my next pick, by Heath's next pick.
You forgot three more.
Oh, by your next pick.
Yeah, when I took Ben Roethlisberger.
There were three more to end round eight, so it was this crazy quarterback run.
Heath took Gardner Minshew, and then there was Ryan Tannehill.
But, you know, you have to sit there and make this decision.
Do I want Ronald Jones?
He's my flex at that point.
He's my third running back.
For Heath, do I take Daryl Henderson?
Who is your first or your second running back?
Your second,
you had taken Kareem hunt.
Um,
or do I want,
okay.
What?
It's just funny.
Do I,
it's just,
you know,
this run that we missed,
we missed the run. You know, we took a gamble. I don't know how you felt about it this run, we missed the run.
You know, we took a gamble.
I don't know how you felt about it, Heath, but I was disappointed.
I don't know that I made the wrong decision, but I wanted a top 12 guy there.
I had to settle for Ben Roethlisberger, and that obviously makes me a little bit queasy.
You settled for Gardner Minshew, and then you took Phillip Rivers shortly thereafter,
like you said, to get that third quarterback.
I thought that was a good move.
But, yeah, what did you think about that decision
to take your number two running back, Daryl Henderson,
miss out on a slew of top 12 quarterbacks
and have to settle for Gardner Minshew?
I just think the position I was in,
and I basically started, I think, like,
first five picks, I did not take a running back,
so basically started zero running back.
And the difference between what i expected to be available at running back and henderson i was surprised henderson was still there frankly and so i thought there was going to be a big big drop
off at running back and i'm pretty much fine with having gardner minshu and philip rivers to try to
give me like stream those two and get close to top 12 production yeah so do you
think that because if you go zero rb and let's just go through your first five picks patrick
mahomes you have him in front of you by any chance yeah george kittle was my second round pick i
believe yep dj moore corlin sutton tyler lockett Then you took Kareem Hunt in round six and Daryl Henderson in round seven.
But if you go zero RB, it might make you kind of weak at number two quarterback
because you've got to fill out running back at some point.
I just don't think, like, when I think of kind of weak at number two quarterback,
I think, man, I'm not sure I have top 20 guy.
And I,
I'm not sure you do.
Well,
I understand,
like maybe,
maybe the JMS Winston will sign with Jacksonville,
but I have like,
based on what we saw last year,
I don't have any real reason to doubt whether Gardner Minshew is going to be a
fine number two.
Okay.
Right.
And,
and to be fair,
you know, we're, we're drafting before the Jaguars have made another move.
They're going to add another quarterback to some extent.
And so is it at nine in the NFL draft?
Is it Jameis? Is it Cam?
Is it somebody that's going to replace Gardner Minshew?
If that's the case, that's probably the guy Heath is drafting in that range.
Okay, now I want to talk about quarterback depth, and just tell me overall, how are you guys
feeling about quarterback depth this
year? It's never been deeper.
If that's the case,
this would be the third year that you're saying that.
Third straight year, I'd say.
I feel like we, as a podcast, at least have said
that. It's much
better for fantasy than it's ever been,
and it will continue to be that way.
But here's the problem.
There's going to be guys who fail, obviously.
It's getting close to where I almost just feel like most,
like we should just try to make this format a little bit more standard.
Because in a one quarterback league,
you could literally wait until your last pick
and get somebody that you're okay with starting.
Yeah.
Easily.
I just think that here's the problem.
Look at who you guys have in the 13 to 18 range.
You've got guys who were mostly bad last year, like Jared Goff and Baker Mayfield.
You've got Ryan Tannehill, who's been good for nine games, basically, whatever it was.
You've got Ben Roethlisberger, who's a big question mark.
You've got Daniel Jones, who had three or four great games last year and was pretty much not usable after that.
You know, look, I like the idea of Kirk Cousins being 23rd, or 19th for Dave, 23rd for Heath and Jamie.
That's appealing. But I think once you get past the top 12,
this really comes into play in a 2QB league.
There are going to be a lot of disappointments there.
And that's obviously a problem.
So Dave said he wanted to get two of his top 12.
And I get that because 12 for you is Tom Brady.
Think about the last two years where Mahomes was barely a top 12 guy. Lamar Jackson
was not a top 12 guy. Jameis Winston was not a top 12 guy. There's going to be one or two of those,
maybe not to the heights of what Mahomes and Winston and Jackson were each of the last two
seasons, but there's going to be guys, maybe it's Michoud, maybe it's Rivers being rejuvenated and
surrounded by different talent, if not better talent in Indianapolis.
Maybe it's, you know, Cam or Jameis signing with the team, maybe not to start week one,
but by the time the middle of the season starts, we haven't factored in where we're going to rank Burrow and potentially Tua or the other rookie quarterbacks, you know. So, you know, there's
still things at play here that are going to change the way 13 through 18 or 13 through 24 look.
But there's going to be one or two of those guys that jump into that group.
I mean, think about Stafford last year.
Had he finished the season,
it would have been another guy that was drafted outside the top 12
that had a very strong performance.
So, again, like any position, there's going to be struggles for a lot of guys.
But the nice thing is that you're going to have a Tannehill emerge this year.
You're going to have one of these other guys become top 12 and either replace.
The hope is that the guys in the consensus top 12 are all very good.
So if there is a drop-off for them, it's not a 10 to 20.
It's a 10 to 15, and you're still getting good numbers from that guy.
All right, let's review our teams here.
I guess we've talked about Heath's enough.
So why don't you go first?
You had the fourth pick.
Jamie had the third pick.
Heath had the fourth pick.
I had the fifth pick.
And Dave had the seventh pick.
There we go.
All right, Heath.
Zero RB.
What do you got?
Yeah, I mean, we've really talked about most of my team.
My starters are Patrick Mahomes, Daryl Henderson, Kareem Hunt, Tyler Lockett, DJ Moore, Cortland Sutton, George Kittle.
I'm at flex right now.
I've got Sony Michelle, Gardner Minshew, and my super flex.
On the bench, I've got a bunch of backup running backs,
Chase Edmonds,
Tony Pollard,
Justin Jackson,
justice Hill,
as well as Phillip rivers.
And for some reason,
Paris Campbell.
Um,
no,
I was mad when you took him.
I actually really wanted Paris Campbell.
I think that was a great pick.
How you feel about this team may not even have that much to do with running back.
I mean,
we can all agree running
back's the weakness it's whether or not quarterback tight end and wide receivers enough to make up for
that and i think probably like no one's going to disagree that my quarterback and tight end combos
the best in the league probably so it comes down to how do you feel about those wide receivers and
for me it's two of my top 10 wide receivers in ppr and three of my top 15 it's a lot if i've really
got three top 15 wide receivers the number one quarterback and the number two tight end running
back is not going to matter all that much hey it's dj moore corlin sudden and tyler lockett
you have the second it's really interesting of the second best seahawks receiver uh so that's
you know that's something and you had asked who is the player that we need to talk about more
on my team and i think it's probably tyler lockett because I think we've maybe talked about DK Metcalf more than we've talked about Luckett.
And this is a guy who has just year after year been one of the most efficient wide receivers in football. We saw him get 110 targets, by far a career high last year, and still somehow maintain 9.6 yards per target which
is absolutely elite and now his quarterback is talking about how they need to throw the ball
more i like i think he and dk metcalf can both be good obviously they showed that last year
but i we may be underrating the possibility that tyler lockett could be great. He's one of those guys I think that you fall victim to,
whether it's us or our users,
in that he started off the season playing really well,
and then he had the hospital scare and did not finish that strong.
And Metcalf kind of eclipsed him a little bit at that point.
And it's like you kind of forget how good he was early in the season.
I think one thing at play here is what's Greg Olson slash this Lee slash
whatever they do at tight end going to impact this entire passing game?
Because do they sort of, you know,
defer to the veteran a little bit more than they may have to some of the
younger tight ends?
Or do they incorporate all their tight ends because they have a bunch?
And obviously the run game too.
You know, if the run game is not healthy, you know, if they don't have a healthy Chris Carson or a healthy group, you know because they have a bunch uh and obviously the run game too you know if the run game is not healthy you know if they don't have a healthy chris carson or a healthy
group you know then it does put the ball more in in russell wilson's hands yeah tyler lockett i
think is i think your team is is really good i'm not giving enough credit the one thing i think
that kind of would have been better for you heath is and i know why you did it because you were kind
of at least i think i know you did you were kind of stockpiling I think I know you did, you were kind of stockpiling running backs. Like if you had taken a better flex than Sonny Michel,
like if Michel was one of your bench players,
I'm just looking at where, like your round 10-11 swing essentially
was Sonny Michel, Justin Jackson.
I love Justin Jackson round 11.
I think that's one of the best picks in the draft.
You had the opportunity there to take three receivers that I like,
two of which I took.
Marvin Jones, Anthony Miller, and Kenny Stills, which I know you like Stills,
and Jones I think is another guy that's underrated.
If you had another receiver in your flex spot, I think this makes this team better.
And you can just say anything like you talked about with your quarterbacks,
how you're just going to mix and match Minshew and Rivers.
If you just say, okay, I'm going to throw Hunt or Henderson or one of Jackson
or Michelle, whoever you end up taking, along with maybe Edmonds or Pollard or whatever.
I think that team makes it look a little bit better than just the fact
that you have to start Sonny Michelle right now just based on how you have it built.
Yeah, and I think in PPR, I definitely have Marvin Jones projected
for more points than Sonny Michelle.
You're right.
It was just solely a thing of I've got two running backs right now.
They are Daryl Henderson and Kareem Hunt.
I better get more running backs.
Let's go to Jamie's team,
picking third,
taking Michael Thomas in round one.
And you give us the rundown on your team
and one player that we need to talk more about.
Well, I kind of did an opposite approach to Heath.
I waited a little bit,
probably too long on my second and third receiver,
but I went with three running backs with three of my next four picks
after taking Thomas with Derek Hendry in round two,
Miles Sanders in round three, and Marlon Mack in round four.
Right? Is that what I did?
Yeah.
Which is awesome. No, I took Josh Allen in round four. I took Mar that what I did? Which is awesome.
I took Josh Allen in round four.
I took Marlon Mack in round five.
My running backs are very solid,
I think.
I don't love Derek Henry, but at the end of round two
I'll take him there. Are you bothered by having
Henry and Mack in PPR?
Not at the spots
I took them.
Henry in round two and Mack in round five.
I'm fine with that.
I do think Mack's catches will go up slightly,
not to a point where he's an elite pass-catching back, but enough to help him as a flex option.
And then it was kind of, okay, I'm just going to kind of wait out my receivers.
And I passed on Marvin Jones at that round 10-11 spot after taking Jameson Crowder,
who I think is going to be very undervalued this year,
just given what the Jets receiving core looks like right now.
And we'll see what it looks like coming out of the draft.
But being the slot receiver for Adam Gase and for Darnold,
as we saw for Crowder at times last year,
I think seven of the 13 games that Darnold played,
Crowder scored 13 or more PPR points. So basically half.
So he had a good season last year. And again, we don't know how healthy Darnold was.
But I was taking kind of more swing for the fences. And I don't want to undersell Marvin Jones,
but I think Anthony Miller can take a step forward without Taylor Gabriel there, as we saw
last year. And then Stills was another guy that I think
is going to be a little undervalued
with Hopkins gone. We'll see if Hopkins is gone. Uh, the latest by the way, is that the trade has
not gone through because they haven't passed their physical. So that'd be really funny if, uh,
Hopkins gets sent back to the Texans and David Johnson stuck in Arizona.
Uh, but I just fortunate for the Texans. Uh, probably so. Um, uh, but I just started taking,
you know, wide receivers that I thought had some upside in the spots that I took them.
So while Thomas is clearly the best everywhere, I have Crowder as a second option.
Anthony Miller, Kenny Stills, Sterling Shepard, and Alan Lazard.
So I'm fairly comfortable with that group.
You know, we'll see what happens with the Packers with Lazard, but the rest of those guys.
That similar to what Heath was talking about with his quarterbacks like I'll
get two of those guys to be serviceable to complement the rest of my team which is Josh
Allen and Tom Brady and Teddy Bridgewater at quarterback and Darren Waller at tenant and
isn't that the easier way to go about it like I would rather backfill receiver especially in a
PPR format than any other position because I just think that there are so many wideouts that you can go and grab in the mid to very end of the draft.
And you'll say, okay, I can make a case for this guy to be in a pinch, get me 10 to 15 PPR points.
I just think that that's a smart way to go about it.
I think you're on to something there the the one thing that i think probably would make me feel more comfortable um overall and i'm sure
if uh you know just looking at it is to have a better second option like i'd rather have crowder
as my third receiver than my second one um you know right but look what you've got everywhere
else yeah no i i i like i'm i'm comfortable with But I think if you just – like if I had passed on Brady and let's say had taken Jarvis Landry or Julian Edelman
and then had come back in – well, I guess Adam was talking about that missing tier.
But let's say it's Ryan Tannehill instead of Brady.
So am I a little bit weak with the quarterback?
Yeah, I think you did the right thing taking Brady there.
Yeah, I agree.
Again, that's why I did it.
But I'm just looking at playing devil's advocate
to the opposite of it.
But I think this might be the way to go
if you take Michael Thomas in round one.
Maybe you shouldn't be in a hurry
to get another wide receiver
because you know Thomas is going to be money
and you can pick up all those other running backs.
So I know you started with Thomas
and then two running backs
and then Allen and then Marlon Mack in round five.
I would not have been opposed.
And maybe this is me being, you know, a psycho for running backs.
But Thomas in round one, running back, running back, running back, and then start thinking about that second wide receiver in round five.
Yeah, but I took Josh Allen as well.
So that's kind of the.
No, that's what I'm saying.
Like, in this format, I get why you did that.
I think that's smart.
Well, if it's a one quarterback league, i'm not going to take a quarterback in round four
and position player there yeah if you take michael thomas in round one and two of your next three
running backs end up being derrick henry and marlon mack as is with the case with jamie he
also has miles sanders well you got a little bit of a catch cushion there with michael thomas he
does make it a little bit easier to take a guy like Marlon Mack
and Derek Henry in PPR league because Thomas is obviously going to be the favorite
to lead the league in catches.
Yeah, and I can see Crowder with 85 catches if he stays healthy,
and I can see Miller with 75 catches.
So both those guys have enough to be serviceable in this format.
How many? 85, you said, for Crowder?
Yep.
How about this?
I've already given this to that, but I'll give it again.
He played 13 games with Sam Darnold.
His 16-game pace in those 13 games, 86 catches, 933 yards,
seven touchdowns on 133 targets.
Dave, was there one player that you wanted to spend more time talking about?
I think we did.
Crowder.
All right, Dave, you had the seventh pick.
And your first round pick was...
Dalvin Cook.
Oh, that's pretty good.
He's not bad.
Yeah, then Aaron Jones in round two.
I got Aaron Jones in round two.
And I loved picking seventh because I was guaranteed one of the top four running backs.
Michael Thomas, Patrick Mahomes,
Lamar Jackson. So I ranked those seven guys before the draft even started. And I knew that I'd get
one of them to fall into my lap. I was thrilled that it was Dalvin Cook. Came back in round two,
loved the value for Aaron Jones. I wasn't ready. Kyler Murray is my number three quarterback. I
didn't want to take him in round two. So I took Aaron Jones and I'm trying to look for running backs early on I want to get as many
of those studs who produce at a high level as much as I can in any draft so those were my first two
picks and then Dak Prescott went in round three to me I believe Kyler had gone off the board at
that point when I was up and yeah otherwise I would have taken Kyler obviously and I think it
was because kyler went
off the board like that sent a signal off my head okay this the second tier of quarterbacks in my
mind it's it's going to be gone by the time i pick in round four i better get one of them now
and i wanted strength at least one of my quarterback spots and so that's what i took
with dac prescott and then i just i feel like i got lucky in round four. I had the pick was Calvin Ridley
and I was just, I was thrilled to get him there. I, I, he's one of my top 12 court,
top 12 wide receivers rather, excuse me. Uh, love his potential to have finally a 1000 yard season,
bunch of touchdowns, bunch of catches. I think the sky's the limit for him in Atlanta.
And I believe my next pick after that was DJ Chark, and I was happy to have him.
I've got him as a top 24 receiver.
No, your next pick was Zach Ertz and then DJ Chark.
Oh, that's even better.
Yeah, I'm sorry about that, Adam.
Ertz wasn't somebody I was planning on taking, but he fell in round five.
And I just thought that that was way too good of a value to pass up.
So I was happy to take him.
And then I got Chark after all in round six. And if Ertz was off the board, I probably would have taken Chark
in round five. I don't remember exactly who was available at that point, but to get both those
guys in rounds five, six, picking in the middle of the round each time, I was a happy camper.
So the core of my team, Dak, Aaron Jones, Dalvin Cook, DJ Chark, Calvin Ridley, Zach Ertz,
I felt like I could do no wrong the rest of the way. But then we talked about what happened in Four of my team, Dak, Aaron Jones, Dalvin Cook, DJ Chart, Calvin Ridley, Zach Ertz.
I felt like I could do no wrong the rest of the way, but then we talked about what happened in round seven.
Saw Jamie take Tom Brady.
Saw Carson Wentz go right in front of me.
I have Rodgers ranked ahead of Wentz as it is.
I was happy to take Aaron Rodgers there.
Really loved the backbone of my team through the first seven rounds.
And I backed with wide receiver. Like I said, my number three receiver is Hollywood Brown.
On my bench at wide receiver, Darius Slayton, who I like a lot.
Cole Beasley, who I think we should talk a tad more about.
I took Cam in round 12.
Blake Jarwin as a second tight end.
Gus Edwards.
And I was a responsible boy.
I took Alexander Madison as well.
So I've got that Vikings run game all locked up in this mock league that we're not going
to play out.
But it's still something that I would do if I take Dalvin Cook. I've got to
prioritize taking Alexander Madison. Yeah. And when did Madison go? That was round 11.
All right. So let's talk a little bit more. I'll just read Dave's team again. The starters are
Prescott, Dalvin Cook, and Aaron Jones. Calvin Ridley, DJ Chark, Marquise Brown, Zach Ertz.
Phillip Lindsay is your flex right now.
That could be Darius Slayton maybe, Cole Beasley, Alexander Madison.
And, yeah, Aaron Rodgers is your super flex.
And you have the Niners, DST, and Harrison Bucker,
so you're good at DST and kicker.
All right, you want to talk a little bit more about Cole Beasley.
Is his value just done, though, with Stefan Diggs on board?
I don't think it's done.
I think he's got his role locked in as the top slot guy for Buffalo.
And I was on Jorge Edwards' Fantasy in Frames podcast,
and he asked me to name an underrated player in the AFC,
or an underrated receiver in the AFC East.
And I didn't want to give an obvious name.
I went with Cole Beasley.
And it's not because I think Cole Beasley is going to finish as a top 30 PPR receiver. I just think he's a really good
bench receiver. He got you 10 or more PPR fantasy points last year in 10 of 15 games. I don't think
his role is going to change much. His targets could slide because Stefan Diggs is there. But
I saw Josh Allen going to him a lot when he needed to get first downs late
in games and the two-minute drill in the first half.
And I don't see that changing.
I think Cole Beasley is still going to be able to run crisp routes and it's easy for
Josh Allen to complete a pass six or seven yards downfield.
And Cole Beasley can reel him in.
So as a pure volume slot receiver that you can carry on the bench, I think Cole Beasley
is a great pick in the double-digit rounds.
Okay, and I'll just kind of go through my team.
I had a fourth pick and did not like my team.
Just too many question marks.
I went with Ezekiel Elliott in round one,
and who was my round two pick?
Was it Adam Thielen?
Yes.
Is that Velvet?
What is this?
It's beautiful.
I guess if Juju Smith-Schuster is my round three pick,
bounces back, and he's Juju, then I could have a good team.
But that's just too many question marks.
I have Drew Brees at quarterback, Zeke, Damian Williams starting running back,
Juju, Adam Thielen, and Christian Kirk at wide receiver.
I'm pretty happy
with that. I am. But again, it's just none of those guys feel like a certainty to me, including
Thielen. Hunter Henry at tight end. Ronald Jones at flex. I did like that pick. Ben Roethlisberger
at super flex. Now, I did do two things that I like. I have Nick Foles and Dwayne Haskins. I have four quarterbacks.
And that, you know, they're currency. That's trade bait. Some guys are going to get hurt.
Dave only has two quarterbacks plus Cam Newton. So if one of his starting quarterbacks gets hurt,
he may not have anything to turn to in Cam Newton. Cam Newton might not be a starter. So
I'll say, all right, Dave, I've got Nick Foles. You've got Dalvin Cook. Let's make the deal.
I'm sure he would do that.
So I will end up basically with one of the best players in football.
But their currency is my point, and they'll pay off.
But jokes aside, I do like that you said that Dave has Cam Newton
and might not be a starter,
but someone might trade for Nick Foles who might not be a starter.
Oh, he'll be a starter.
And I have Dwayight Haskins too.
But anyway, I thought...
That was a steal of the draft.
Haskins, yeah, super late.
I don't know why people didn't want him.
Round 14, we had a 17-round draft.
So that was good.
I think that my big mistake was Hunter Henry
instead of a number two quarterback.
I could have taken... Or no, I would say instead of a number two quarterback. I would say
instead of a better running back. I could have had more running
back depth. I could have taken like
Carryon Johnson or Mark Ingram, but I took Hunter Henry
and Dave has
Darren Waller or was that
Jamie's got Waller.
So, you know,
there are a lot of points that are going to be scored in this
league. You've got two quarterbacks.
You've got three receivers.
You've got a flex spot.
You've got PPR.
I don't think a guy like Hunter Henry is that valuable in this format.
And I think George Kittle is, and he took George Kittle in round two.
But, you know, I don't know.
I don't like tight ends that much.
I don't like the mid-tier of tight ends that much in a super flex PPR league
that starts three receivers and a flex.
They don't score enough points.
Tight ends are valuable because of position scarcity,
except for the elite ones.
They're valuable because they're great.
So I wish I hadn't taken Hunter Henry.
I wish I had punted tight end at that point,
taken a better player,
and just gotten the number 12 tight end off the board,
Johnny Smith, something like that.
Adam, I think if you knew you were going to get Noah Fant in round 12,
you wouldn't have taken Hunter Henry earlier in the draft.
Exactly.
Which was another amazing pick.
I was thinking about taking Noah Fant in round 12,
and I didn't do it because I had Zach Ertz,
and I didn't want to have Noah Fant language on
the bench. I needed a third quarterback. I figured Cam Newton will get a job eventually.
I took Cam over Fant in a regular draft. Obviously, I don't know if Cam gets drafted
in a regular draft, but I would have taken Fant sooner than this in a regular draft.
His value is an example of what you can find in the double digit rounds
in a super flex draft where people are going after quarterback a lot heavier.
Yeah, so I know that this is sort of an Adam philosophy
and not everybody agrees,
but I just feel like tight ends aren't as valuable in a format like this.
I regret taking Hunter Henry there.
And that will pretty much wrap it up.
I wanted to plug one thing, as I should have done this earlier, but I did not.
A little bit of an unusual week for us. Wednesday's show is actually going to be recorded Tuesday night. It is going to
be not a fantasy show. It is going to be a draft of fictional football players. We did this on the
Fantasy Baseball Today podcast. It was very well received. It was a lot of fun. We did fictional
baseball characters. I had the first pick. I took Steve Nebraska. He is from the movie The Scout. He's Brendan Fraser's character.
He threw a perfect game on the minimum amount of pitches. He threw 81 pitches and 81 strikes. He
struck everybody out. He also had a home run to lead the Yankees to a win in the World Series.
So he was the number one pick. I had Dottie Hinson and Marla Hooch on my team.
I had Benny the Jet Rodriguez.
I had Kelly Leak.
I had superstars from all different types of leagues,
and I had the best draft.
So we're going to do the same thing for football.
I've got a great sleeper that I hope nobody takes.
I want to take him in the later rounds.
We're going to do that with the pick six guys.
It's going to be me and Jamie representing FFT,
and two of the pick six guys,
including will,
I think it was Sean is going to be the other one that's going to be recorded
Tuesday night.
You're probably here at Wednesday morning or Tuesday night,
whatever.
And doing rankings.
I'm going to kick your butt in this one.
Yeah.
No,
I,
I've got to do some,
some research for sure.
Uh,
but it'll be,
I have a question.
So we talked,
I called you earlier this morning.
I wanted to double check this just to see.
So the characters in Remember the Titans,
not eligible, right?
Oh, because they're real?
No, I think they are.
I think they are.
So now you're bending the rules.
That's not what you told me this morning.
So give me an example.
So I would say you couldn't do, in baseball, you couldn't do Ty Cobb from the movie Cobb.
Right?
That's obvious.
But can you do... The first thing that came to my mind when you sent me this, I was like, oh, I'm blanking on his name, but the kid from the Express, the Syracuse running back.
Oh, right.
No, you can't do that.
Right.
So I guess, yeah, I guess you can't do Remember the Titans.
Now, I have to go back and check and see what was fictional and what was not.
Yeah, that's the thing.
It's not like that movie, The Express.
First of all, they're not like the greatest players in football history.
And I know... Well, Steve Nebraska like, the greatest players in football history. And I know—
Well, Steve Nebraska's not the greatest player in baseball history.
No, but I mean they're not based on actual great football players like the Syracuse running back.
Oh, okay. I got you.
Yeah, you know.
All right, we're going to hash this out via email.
And then, obviously, the— I've never seen a TV show,
the Friday Night Lights TV show,
but the movie is based on real life.
It is?
The movie is.
Absolutely, it is.
Well, those guys weren't that good anyway, I don't think.
And the book.
Yeah.
Come on, man.
You want to win, let boogie spin.
Okay, well, we're going to talk about this.
We're going to have to figure this out.
I think when it's based on obscure players,
it's one thing.
When it's based on Hall of Famers,
it's like a movie about a Hall of Famer.
That's a little different.
But I'm looking forward to it.
I think you'll all enjoy it.
And that'll be tomorrow.
And we'll save some emails for later on in the week.
I want to thank Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Heath, you haven't spoken in five to ten minutes.
I apologize.
Say goodbye to everybody.
No.
I've got a golf course to call.
Thanks for listening, everybody.
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