Fantasy Football Today - Superflex Tight End Premium Start Up Mock Draft with Jacob Gibbs and Alfredo Brown! (1/7 Fantasy Football Dynasty Podcast)
Episode Date: January 7, 2025Heath Cummings hosts a Superflex Tight End Premium Start-Up Mock Draft with special guests Jacob Gibbs and Alfredo Brown. They break down key strategies and player insights to help you dominate your d...ynasty draft. 0:00 Intro 7:00 Round 1 13:30 Round 2 18:20 Round 3 24:24 Round 4 33:00 Round 5-6 43:00 Round 7-8 51:30 Round 9-10 57:50 Team Recap Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to Fantasy Football Today, Dynasty. I am your host, Heath Cummings.
Redraft season may be over, even for those people playing into week 18, but Dynasty season
never ends and we have for you a Superf flex, tight end premium startup mock draft.
Alfredo Brown is here with me, our good friend from football guys.
How excited are you to do a mock draft the day after the NFL season ends?
We know everything, right Alfredo?
I was just telling you, man, I was like, I have to really flip my brain
on to dynasty mode and it's not even dynasty mode. All the things you listed, you got to go superflex
tight end premium. We're not, we don't have rookies in this. So I'm trying to get my mind
right here a little bit, but I know I'm excited. I'm excited to turn the page. The off season
is the most fun time of the year for me and doing this just seems like the right way to
start.
And really the right way to start is with Jacob Gibbs having some technical difficulties
and not here yet, but hopefully will be soon with Dan Schneier auto drafting because I
think he forgot about the mock draft as he does in most of our mock drafts.
This is the way, and I wouldn't tell you guys this if it was somebody who's not on FFT Dynasty
regularly, but I hope that next time that Gibbs is on,
which hopefully will be in the next 15 minutes or so, or the next time that Dan's on that
you bring this up. So again, this is a super flex, tight end premium, start two running
backs, three wide receivers, one regular flex, one super flex. We're going 16 rounds and
the clock is about to run out on Dan for the second time.
I'm going to kick him out of the league.
And the question came across from Brian.
I'm curious to see where Heath of all people values Patrick Mahomes in this format.
And honestly, probably right about now.
The draft has started.
I took Josh Allen at number one overall.
Number two was Alfredo.
He took Lamar Jackson.
Number three, Jacob Gibbs took Brock Bowers.
Dan auto drafted Jameer Gibbs twice, but we're going to back that out for him one last time
because he says that he's here now and he's sorry.
And we're going to forgive you, Dan and give you a pick.
I would take Patrick Mahomes with the fourth pick.
Alfredo, you said you were glad you didn't have the third pick.
Who would you take fourth overall with Alan Jackson and Bowers gone?
Oh God, I, I, I hate this pick right here, but it also feels
like you kind of can't go wrong.
It's just, you're just picking different flavors between the honestly,
Mahomes, Burrow, Jaden Daniels.
I think. I think I'd probably lean Mahomes as well,
just because I feel like you get the safest out of the bunch there.
Burrow, everything's up in the air with Higgins, Chase, all these guys,
at least with Mahomes, I feel like you've kind of seen the floor.
You kind of seen how bad it can be when he doesn't have all of his weapons.
And then, you know what that ceiling is.
So if I, if I want to make sure I absolutely hit my pick in a super
flex league where I'm the fourth pick overall in dynasty, I'm holding
on to these guys for a long time.
Yeah.
Patrick, my home is probably the guy for me.
And that's it.
You brought up a good point.
Cause I think some people will hear that and think my homes, man, he was off.
This is a six points per pass touchdown league.
All of our CBS leagues are.
And so Dan just took Jayden Daniels.
That wouldn't have changed his pick.
He knows that he works for us.
Um, which you would think it would be here on time for the mock draft, but
Dan took Jayden Daniels, Jamie takes Jaylen hurts.
Those guys I would take ahead of my homes for sure.
And a four point per pass touchdown league and six, I would take my homes,
which is what Matt Donnelly just did.
So again, we start the draft off with Alan Jackson Bowers.
Daniels hurts my homes.
It feels like it's everybody's top five quarterbacks and
Brock Bowers right in the middle.
I told you Jacob Gibbs was going to take Brock Bowers in that spot.
What's the earliest you would take a tight end.
We're doing half point bonus per reception for tight ends.
So one point per reception for everyone else.
1.5 for tight ends.
What's the earliest you would take a tight end, Alfredo?
I think it would probably be about now at this pick seven or eight in this area.
Once all of my top tier quarterbacks are off the board and I'm just moving on to
guys that are younger, like the Caleb Williams and, and, and,
and those guys and trying to project, um, with a tight end premium,
I don't know that I give it as much of a boost as a bunch of other people do
because it's the same across the board. Every tight end gets that tight end
premium. Whereas with the quarterbacks,
like I want to make sure I get an elite quarterback because it is a positional advantage for your
roster, for your lineup. So yeah, as great as Brock Bowers is, I don't know that I would
have taken him three, but also Jacob Gibbs is a lot smarter than me. So I'm just going
to give him credit where credit's due.
I don't know if anybody's a lot smarter than you Alfredo. There's probably a lot of people
that are a little bit smarter than you. You're a. Yeah, you're, you're, you're a smart guy.
Um, I do think like, yes, all the tight ends get that bonus, but if you can
draft the guy who has more catches than any other rookie ever, then that bonus
is going to be worth a little bit more for him than it is for others.
We know that that bonus for Travis Kelsey has been an enormous edge historically.
I think we've got Gibbs coming in very shortly. I see him working furiously backstage. He is ready
to draft. I think Jonathan says thank you Heath for another championship. Thank you everybody here
for letting us do this show. Jacob Gibbs, are you here? Can we hear you?
Hey, how's it going? There he is. Yeah, a bit of a rough start. But yeah, it's I mean,
I just got through a blizzard this weekend, man. I don't know if you know that we got
like 15 inches of snow in Kansas City or something insane. So yeah, we're just rolling with it.
Yeah, it's you know, thoughts and prayers to everybody in Kansas
city and the path of the storm.
I think it's headed to the East coast now.
Um, which is probably going to create all kinds of troubles.
We've got winds and snow, and I, I think I talked to some people who are actually
down South and they didn't get hard much snow at all, but they got a whole lot of
ice and that's almost worse in some ways.
So yeah, it's a fully understand.
I know you've been traveling for the holidays.
We appreciate you being here with us today.
You took Brock Bowers at third overall.
No one else has taken another tight end yet.
Is he the only tight end who you think should go in the first round of this format?
Yeah, I think you could make a case for Trey McBride.
But really, it's it's Bowers there.
And I three is clearly a reach. probably should have been Jayden Daniels or
Mahomes would be next for me but yeah I think Bowers has the potential to give
you that insane positional edge she outscored McBride by 20 points this year
and then outscored the Titan three by 60 points in this format and that was with
just four touchdowns as a rookie.
So I feel pretty good about locking him in and we'll see.
I wanted to go with kind of an interesting team construction
here and just see how it plays out.
So round one is complete.
I took Josh Allen, Alfredo took Lamar Jackson,
then Brock Bowers.
We talked about those picks a lot.
Dan auto drafted Jameer Gibbs three times, but actually took Jaden Daniels. Then we saw Jalen Hertz, Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow,
Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, Justin Herbert, Bijan Robinson, and Jordan Love rounds out
the top 12. So only two wide receivers go in the first round, Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase,
and one running back that sneaks into the first round. Bijon Robinson. Now I know
Joshua Cho. He loves, JB Cho knows on Twitter, he loves his running backs. And Bijon, I think,
like he and Gibbs really earned it this season, especially if you played into week 18 with Gibbs.
How high are you comfortable in this format?
Alfredo taking one of those two running backs.
I've basically got them tied in my dynasty rankings.
It's a one a one B situation.
Feels like a pretty huge edge on the field.
If you have one of those guys.
Yeah, I think the earliest I'd probably go is that mid round two spot.
Just because I want to make sure that I load up on my,
my quarterbacks or others, or at least in the first round. And then maybe if I'm sitting there,
for example, like pick six, um, where we see Patrick, my home's off the board. I'd probably
be looking at B John or Gibbs at that spot. But ideally if I'm going to be really greedy and see
how long I can wait end of round two, but I don't know that I want to sneak a running back into round one.
And we're going to, uh, we're going to get another auto pick. This is going to happen
a couple of times in the first, like, you know, it's, it's everybody's first mock draft
of 2025. And I know what Joel Cox wants to do here because he took Jamar chase in round
one. And I think he wanted Pooka, but it's hard to start with two wide receivers in a super
flex league where you have to, where you have tight end premium.
So he's going to take Brock Purdy here.
So he will start with Chase and Purdy in the first two rounds.
I give, I wonder if we're getting to the point with what eight quarterbacks taken in round
one, now two quarterbacks off the board
with the first four picks of round two.
Are we getting close to the point to where we should have that little gap in quarterbacks
being drafted or you still see a lot of guys worth around to pick?
Yeah, I personally would be taking like Brian Thomas Jr. just went Pukinokua over a lot
of these quarterbacks that are available in this range. And then even
looking at the guys at the back half there of the the back end of round one early round two,
I would take neighbors ahead of all those guys. And probably CD Lamb as well. I do like love and
Herbert a lot. But yeah, I, I think that I just feel so good about some of these elite young
pass catchers that just came into the league.
Um, and I don't see as big of a difference between like Herbert and some of
these other quarterbacks that you can get in round three.
So I think Alfredo, that the interesting thing is that it's really hard in this
format to know what you're going to be able to get in round three Gibbs just
said, Herbert, he actually went in round one.
Um, but like we, we see quarterbacks sometimes you'll get a run.
And I think if you get through round one and you haven't taken a quarterback.
And now it's round two and in Joel's instance, he's not going to pick again
in 18 picks, how scared are you to go into round three, the end of round
three, without a QB one three without a QB one?
Without a QB one, I'm pretty scared.
I mean, that really depends on what's still there
on the board.
For example, like there's some quarterbacks
that I do like here, but I'm on the clock right now
and I'm going to pass up on some of these quarterbacks.
Am I?
No, I thought there was another wide receiver that was available. I guess he's not. And I missed that.
Drake may is who I had in mind. I said quarterback in round three, I didn't want Dan to snipe me,
but that's why I had mine to me. There's not a huge difference between him and love and Herbert
and those that tier of quarterbacks. And you just took Drake may in round two. And so Alfredo is on
the clock already has a quarterback, not, not much pressure in this spot.
At the end of round two, like that's amazing. That's a guy that we've been taking in the
top eight, top 10 most years and not get a bad year.
Yeah, no, I think it's a great pick. And my pick would have been much more difficult
if he had not taken him because I had two guys kind of back to back, one of them, the proven
number one wide receiver, one of them, I don't think there's any way he would
have made it to the two, three turn if we were doing this draft a year ago.
And he hadn't even played football yet, but I'm going to go ahead and take Caleb.
So I will start my draft with Josh Allen and Caleb Williams.
That feels pretty awesome.
I think it's going to, it's going to be a good time.
And, uh, I guess somebody already took Jameer Gibbs.
I mean, it feels like he's been drafted seven times in this draft, but, uh, this
is where it gets a little bit difficult.
I think I know who Jacob wants and I'll just tell you, like if you've never hosted a live mock draft while
hosting a podcast, it's, um, it's really difficult, not any fun at all.
It's a top five worst experience of my life that I've had.
Yes.
So the only thing I can really do is try to troll you guys at the turn.
So I'll go ahead and take Nico at the start of round three and start off with Josh Allen,
Caleb Williams and Nico Collins.
Grade my turn, Jacob Gibbs.
A plus.
What a start.
Man.
Azer has, what a good guy Adam Azer is.
He is in this draft.
We'll talk about his team in just a second, but he just posted a link to my quarterback
rankings so that everybody could see my dynasty quarterback rankings.
It would have been more helpful if he had posted my super flex top 150, which you can
get over on sports line.
So then everybody would have been able to see an actual draft board.
I think what's probably happened is Adam was trying to look helpful while also maintaining
an advantage on the league, which sounds exactly like him.
Let's talk about round two.
Alfredo's on the clock.
I'm not going to give him a question yet, but round two goes CJ Stroud, CD Lamb, Malik Neighbors, Brock Purdy, Pooka Nakua, Brian Thomas Jr., Trey McBride,
Jamir Gibbs, Jared Goff, Drake May, Amun Ra St. Brown, and Caleb Williams. Again, that is
Stroud, Lamb, Neighbors, Purdy, Nakua, Thomas, McBride, Gibbs, Goff, May St. Brown and Kayla.
I think Trey McBride from Matt Donnelly might be the steal of this draft late in round two
in a tight end premium.
Love, love, love that pick.
Anything else that stands out to you Alfredo that you really like in this round?
Well, I kind of want to pat myself on the back for getting that Amon Ra St. Brown pick
at the end of round two.
That was really nice.
Um, yeah, honestly it's a team 11.
Who's that one?
I got it like a little bit.
Many of them is Joshua.
Uh, I know he went running back in the first round and I didn't love the
Bichon Robinson pick, but getting CD lamb there in the second, after a couple
other teams, excuse me on the turn, that team 12 goes love and shroud.
Um, yeah, just like what Jacob said, CD lamb for me as a guy that I probably would
have taken right there at the end of round one, looking at that pick 10. So to get him
where he did in round two, absolutely love that.
Shout out Adam Mazer got his New York giant Malik neighbors. That's a top 10 pick for
me in dynasty.
Yeah, it's, it's definitely, I mean, it's, it's, I think he's my number three wide receiver right now.
Like we had at this time last year, Jacob, where it was kind of Chase, Jefferson and Lamb, pick your
favorite flavor. We don't know for sure who the best is. Now it feels like to me, it's Chase and
Jefferson at the top. And then you've got neighbors, Lam, maybe Nico in that group, maybe Brian
Thomas, maybe Puka in that group. Do you feel like Chase and Jefferson have separated themselves
as a clear top tier once again at wide receiver?
Yeah, I think that's where we're at. I would have neighbors next and then I think Lam,
Puka and BTJ are all in a tier together.
So you gave Adam Azer a shout out for getting his New York giant in
round two, he just took Baker Mayfield in round three, Alfredo, I think this has
been like, if you, if I wish you could, you see those charts of a player's
dynasty value over the life of their career and Baker's is probably one of
the most amusing, uh, is it going to continue going? And Azer says it
in the chat, kind of low in Heath's dynasty rankings. Yes, I brought it up because I think
it's a bad pick, Adam. Do you think that he continues like this level of play for the next
two to three years or is it the history of Baker Mayfield's career? What goes up must come down.
I don't know that it's any of those things.
I think a lot of it is just going to be, he's been in the right circumstance in the right
place with very talented receivers around him.
Mike Evans is getting a little bit older.
He's going to go into his year 32 season here.
Maybe he's got one more season.
I know he just had another thousand yard season.
He looks great.
How much longer does he really have Chris Godwin?
I don't, I don't know what's going to happen with him.
I would have thought that he wouldn't be coming back.
But with the injury, maybe he doesn't get a contract elsewhere.
So Baker probably gives you another good season.
I don't know that he's giving you another good two to three seasons.
I think it's just going to be very dependent on the circumstances around it.
Liam Cohen could leave to like, there's a lot that could change.
I I'm old enough to remember when we were worried about Dave Canales leaving.
Yeah, I mean, things are even better this year. I guess we could give it all to Baker
and Bucky, but I really, really loved what we saw from Cohen.
And Thomas, correct. You always love Thomas in the private chat correcting Gibbs. Azer
didn't get neighbors.
Adam Pfeiffer did.
Thank you for keeping us in.
We got multiple Adams in this draft and Gibbs illustrating how difficult this
really is to, uh, to do a podcast and, and do a draft and talk about them both
coherently at the same time.
We are almost to the end of round three. I want
to take a look at what has happened so far. And listen, I know some of you are listening
on just the podcasts a day later. And so I'm trying to say the names as often as possible.
For those of you here on the YouTube chat, thank you. Thank Thomas for putting this graphic
up so you can just keep seeing who's available. Maybe you don't need me to say these names quite as often, but I'm going to keep doing
it.
So start of round three, I crushed Jacob Sol by taking Nico Collins.
Alfredo took Kyler Murray, which I think was a really good pick.
Then Drake London goes to Gibbs.
Then we have Marvin Harrison Jr., kind of like my Caleb pick.
Nobody would have thought Marvin Harrison was going to be available in round three of a startup draft.
Bo Nix, Breece Hall, Baker Mayfield, Trevor Lawrence, Devon A.
Chan, Garrett Wilson, AJ Brown, and then RJ with a very good pick, Jackson Smith and Jigba.
So I think we've got three, that makes it, make it four running backs in the
first three rounds of this draft Gibbs
Dan came on the show last week and said that his new year's resolution was that he was
going to react to this great running back season and the way the NFL has changed and
everybody playing too high and all this fantasy production going to running backs.
The league is not reacting for running backs taken in the first three rounds.
Is this about how you have it though?
I was thinking about Achan and my pick like early third round. So I think that was really good value.
Really all the guys that went in the end of the third round here I think were great picks.
Breeze is tough to feel confident about. He's definitely somebody you can get at a discount
if you do believe in him right now. But yeah, just in general, I've been surprised at how low the running backs and receivers are
getting pushed down the board. Like I thought maybe I would get Lawrence around for Baker Mayfield,
like it surprised me a little bit to see those guys go against potentially elite flex options
and like somebody like Jackson Smith, the jigsaw or Garry Wilson, who's been a round one, round two pick in dynasty in the past.
Alfredo, I'm curious how you see, Jacob mentioned how, you know, risky really, Brice Hall feels.
And I agree, but we've always thought like he's a top five dynasty running back.
No matter what, things are going to get better. He's a top five dynasty running back. Kyron Williams has kind of been
the opposite. We've always thought he's about to be replaced. This guy's not actually that
good. It's just volume. I actually now have Kyron Williams one spot ahead of Breeze Hall
in my dynasty running back rankings. Where are you at on those two?
I am at the exact same thing. I was flushing out my dynasty rankings this morning.
I ended up with Gibbs, Bijan, A-chan in the top three, Saquon at four, Jonathan Taylor at five,
Kyron at six, Brees at seven. And honestly, it feels like Brees is a lot closer to Josh Jacobs,
who I have at eight than he is to Kyron. Wow.
There was just a really, a really ugly back half of the season for me with Bryce,
who I've struggled with Bryce throughout his career because he's had so many ups and downs
and so much of what he's been able to do, not that he's a bad player, but so much of
what he's been able to do has been solely based on getting those check down passes.
And I'm curious to see what this offense does going forward. New quarterback, new coach,
new everything on offense.
And we also saw towards the end of the year, Isaiah Davis and Braylon Allen really became
part of the backfield.
I don't know that we're going to get the breeze hall 20 touches per game anymore.
I know we get a little scared about most of our running backs, but I don't know that we're
going to see that anymore.
Okay, Jacob.
So I had to make a few picks for one of the managers, but, um, because of
the blizzard that you mentioned and one of those picks just happened and I was just kind
of going off of my own rankings. And this is interesting because two I just went as
well and that was kind of the guy I wanted to compare him to. Um, Sam Darnold has had
a remarkable season, um, last night, not withstanding, uh, but last night I think kind of highlights
what everybody's concerned about in dynasty. Is he going to turn into a pumpkin in the
playoffs and then Minnesota decides they're not going to give him any money and then he
goes to a bad situation and then he's NFL Sam Darnold again. How are you viewing him
in contrast? I guess I'll put two names out there because he could obviously follow the
Baker path and just turn into somebody that we feel good about as a starter,
especially in this format.
But also I think the guy who went right after him to a tongue of Aloha and then
right like between those two Anthony Richardson, like we don't know for sure
how many years the three of those have combined
as a starting quarterback in the NFL.
Yeah, for sure.
I was hoping Richardson would get to me, you know, I'm sick.
Darnold is really tough to evaluate.
I think I am a little bit leery
of what we'll see in the playoffs.
It felt like just a week ago,
it was like for sure Darnold's locked in.
They're gonna have to do whatever they can to retain him
and run it, No, um, but what Detroit did was really interesting.
They just came out and were like, we're going to play man press coverage like we always
do even more than normal and see what you guys can do. And it bothered, uh, Minnesota.
They really had a tough time getting the ball to the receivers. We saw some bad misses from
Darnold. And so I'm curious if, um, other teams will try to emulate that depending on who gets Minnesota in the
playoff matchups. Um, I would feel a little bit nervous taking them in this
range. I would have taken Richardson personally.
Yeah. I think I feel more confident that Sam Darnold's going to start all of
next season than I do Anthony Richardson. Sure. Obviously Anthony
Richardson has a lot more upside, even in a league that rewards six
points per pass touchdown than Sam Darnold does.
And I think you said I'm sick.
Is that what you said?
Yeah, I said that.
You can't stop drafting cow pits and Anthony Richardson type guys.
Exactly.
Yes.
That's what I was going to say.
Like I think you don't really think about floor.
You don't really care about floor.
Floor doesn't matter.
I think what you said before the season was you're going to die anyway.
Either way, it's fine.
Devon H. before the season.
And it's accurate.
But for anyone who does, I think you'd see why you get a little bit worried about drafting
an Anthony Richardson, specifically in a super flex.
In a one QB league.
I don't think there's any argument. You want to take Richardson over a Sam Darnold, because
floor actually doesn't matter in a super flex league, man, you can get into a spot if you
draft that way where all of a sudden you don't have any quarterbacks. We just got to the
end of round four. I made a couple of picks. I don't think Gibbs is going to be upset about
either of them, which kind of upsets me, but
let's talk about round four of this Superflex tight end premium mock draft.
It's Sam Laporta, the third tight end off the board in this format.
And I think the only other tight end to be drafted in the first four rounds.
Then Dak Prescott, Saquon Barkley, Sam Darnold, Anthony Richardson, Bucky Irving, Tua, Lad McConkey,
Michael Penix, Jonathan Taylor.
And then I took Kyron Williams as I told everybody I was going to pretty much.
Alfredo.
Good job, Alfredo.
We'll get to that pick in just a second.
So again, round four, Laporta, Prescott, Barkley, Darnold, Richardson, Bucky, Prescott, Barclay, Darnold, Richardson, Buckey, Tua, McConkey, Higgins,
Pinnix, Taylor, and Kyron Williams.
I wonder, Alfredo, in the Superflex format where we talked about floor does actually
matter just a little bit, Dak Prescott, we've seen him when he's healthy over the last five
years for the most part perform like a top five fantasy quarterback.
There was one season that was kind of the exception to that, but I can't think
of a situation that feels more volatile than this Dallas situation.
Who knows what's going to happen.
Other than I think he's going to be there.
How do you, do you feel safe with deck as your QB two?
Yeah.
As my QB two, sure.
I feel pretty safe with him.
Um, like you said, he's one of those guys that we've seen him kind of be a top Yeah, as my QB to sure, I feel pretty safe with him.
Like you said, he's one of those guys that we've seen him kind of be a top five, top eight quarterback almost every single season.
But that's it. Like, I feel safe.
I don't I don't feel excited having him as as an like, for example, in this one
for Josh, it's QB one.
I think it's fine for the build that he has.
I wouldn't be overly excited with it because with everything that you said,
this Cowboys team really worries me.
It's Jerry Jones kind of isn't letting go of the reins and we don't really know what
we're going to see with this team.
And they just make me really uneasy if I'm being quite honest.
So I haven't been yelled at by Thomas for this yet, but I think it's time to take a
break.
So let's take our first break and then we'll get to round five.
So I started off round five with Jordan Addison.
I felt pretty good about that pick right afterwards though.
Alfredo takes Rashi Rice and Jacob got upset.
And it's not just because Jacob is a Kansas city chiefs fan.
It's because rice has immense upside.
I wonder, and I'll just ask you, Alfredo, like do you, how much do you concern
yourself with rice's current health?
The knee injury that wasn't an ACL, it was an LCL.
Um, and then also the potential of a suspension.
And then finally the emergent, like Xavier worthy kind of took the
rushy rice path in the second half of this season.
What do you think that like when we see rice again, he's just the clear alpha number one
in this offense?
I, if we're going to put labels, I don't know that I'd say clear alpha number one.
I feel like there's going to be a lot of one a one B one C, but I don't care.
I want whoever has that wide receiver one
moniker on their name in Kansas city. And Rishi Rice has kind of shown that even though
he's like, I don't want a one trick pony, maybe a two trick pony, his tricks are really
good and him catching the ball underneath underneath and being able to run after catch
it. Just, it's one of those things that it's going to lend itself to a lot more PPR success.
And I mean, prior to the
injury, this was a guy that I think we were all looking at him as a, in the same area as probably
Nico Collins, Drake London, where all those guys went in, in round three in terms of dynasty value.
So yeah, I mean, injury and suspension is probably what a couple of games we're thinking here.
I have abs and maybe, maybe Jacob, you have a better lean on this.
I have no, like if I had to put an over under on it, I think I'd put it at five and a half.
I've been shooting under that, but I have no idea how to speculate on it really.
And just on the question of is he the alpha, I think it's clear that he will be. I think Worthy
has shown that he can contribute, but I think it's clear that he will be. Um, I think worthy is, uh, you know,
has shown that he can contribute, but I think it's like clear rice is locked in as the guy.
I, I, I w a month ago, like it wasn't even a question. I may have even made the joke of
calling Xavier worthy Sky Darius, Tony. I did. And then like he just flipped the switch and it is, they say, I think that
Marquis Brown being back really helped him because they could stop asking him to
do things that they didn't want him to have to do in the first place. Um, but
back to the, the, the super flex portion of this show, Bryce young, Michael
Penneix Jr.
You took both of them Gibbs back to back picks.
I have them back to back in my super flex QB rankings.
You took Pinnix first.
Is that just an upside thing?
Man, speaking of guys who seem to have flipped a switch
in the second half of the season,
Bryce Young looked fantastic in the last month.
Yeah, he did.
Yeah, I think there's upside with both of those guys.
And since I did wait on QB,
I was happy to get both of them and just see. I went with Pinnix over him because I do think
there's more upside. I've been really intrigued by what Atlanta has shown.
Now that they finally have got him in, they've been able to run some boots and different kinds
of looks. The arm talent is really fun. But yeah, there's also been some kind of scary
misses. It's just such a small sample size that I really don't know. But that kind of tracks with
what we had seen from him at the collegiate level and what people were concerned with,
with the arm angles and everything. And so I was super psyched to be able to get Bryce
there as well, just in case Pinnix does have a rough year too.
Trey Lockerbie Okay, Alfredo, you said you don't probably wait the tight end premium as heavily as some
people do definitely not as heavily as Jacob Gibbs may, but we're five rounds
into this draft.
Um, George Kittle just went, I think he was the fourth tight end to be drafted
in this draft is, are we, are we approaching a tight end run?
I mean, not, I think we kind of, I don't want to say we saw the tight end run,
but I think after this, it kind of, the position gets very nebulous.
They're kind of all the same.
And there's always that plateau that you get to with the position where a lot of
these guys you're taking a shot on are the sick in the head.
I hope they still break out in year six kind of people like Kyle Pitts, you know, and I don't know. Like it's at this
point you're looking at guys like Mark Andrews. How many years does he have left? Tucker Kraft?
Like what's the real version of Tucker Kraft? How good is that Packers offense going to
be?
Can get some of these names.
Kincaid is the obvious name.
I, you know, my very next, my very next words were going to be Jacob Gibbs defend Dalton Kincaid, please.
I wish that I could because yeah, in our league, Heath and I have a league, Alfredo,
where we draft two, we start two tight ends and tight end receptions are worth two points.
And I traded my first round pick to go like this year's upcoming rookie first round pick 2025, to go up and get Heath's first round pick.
And I took Dalton Kincaid with that pick. And it looks like one of the worst decisions I've made in a long time.
I wanted to take Trey McBride, but I'm managing this team with four other people. And they're, they talked me into Dalton Kincaid.
And so I have Kincaid and Brock Bowers in this league. And it could have been McBride and Brock Bowers.
Oh, and by the way, that pick that I traded to Heath
ended up being the 101.
Yeah. And just like, he didn't just trade the future first.
He traded his second in the startup along with it,
which turned, which happened to be Jamar Chase.
So it was Jamar Chase.
It was Jamar Chase and the 2025 101 for Dalton Kincade.
And then me being the jerk that I am when I made the playoffs with his 101, tried to
trade back for Kincade and made an insultingly low offer and told him that Kincade wasn't any good.
It really, I feel almost bad about how the whole thing worked out.
I feel worse about the fact that I haven't gone over round five yet.
So let's talk.
Such a good story though.
I feel like the Carolina Panthers with Bryce Young last year is where our team is.
And so I'm hoping the Kincade can make me feel better this year like Bryce did.
Perfect. Yes, I'm hoping the King K can make me feel better. Yes. Like Bryce did.
Perfect.
Yes.
I would take that.
Jordan Addison started off round five, then Rasheer Rice,
then Bryce Young.
Then we had Josh Jacobs, Xavier Worthy, and DJ Moore,
James Cook, TJ Hockinson, and Chase Brown, George Kittle,
Kenneth Walker, and Zay Flowers.
I think the most interesting thing about that round to me, Gibbs, since
you just picked is Ken Walker.
Um, this was like right about RB 12 was, was probably just about where you would
expect him to go last year and about where I still have him this year, but we saw Zach
Charbonneau have some success.
We've seen Walker pile up more injuries.
Where are you at on the Seattle backfield in dynasty?
Yeah, I drafted a lot of Charbonneau over the years, so I'm happy holding him and, um,
Ken Walker, I think I would just be kind of avoiding, like there's a lot of other guys
in this range who I think bring similar kind of upside and I feel a lot safer about.
As you can see with my team here, I've gone six rounds without a running back.
So that's that's kind of where I'm at with dynasty startups, unless it's a really, really
good value.
Like I almost took 18 and the third I felt good about that.
But otherwise, I'm pretty much avoiding the position early on.
And so Walker definitely is not somebody I would be investing in it early on.
So you passed on concave. Alfredo just sniped me by taking concave.
And let's just talk about my team for a second.
I've got Josh Allen, Kyron Williams, Nico Collins, Jordan
Addison and Caleb Williams.
So Allen and Williams are the quarterbacks.
Nico and Addison are the wide receivers.
Kyron is my only running back.
I have no idea who I'm going to take on this, but I think I've left my options
open as to whether I am playing for the future or playing for this year, which
may also just mean I have done a bad job of drafting one way or the other.
Um, all of the wide receivers that I keep trying to find in the
chat have already been taken.
So Alfredo, I want to ask you, Chuba Hubbard was taken by Jamie
with the 68th pick in this draft.
It's going to be a while, I would assume before we see Jonathan Brooks.
Um, how are you, how are you feeling about Chuba as a, you know, maybe
a number two dynasty running back
and is this just a little bit too early? You know, I think my initial thought was going
to be that it was too early. And then you just start to think that we kind of said the same
thing all off season about drafting Chuba Hubbard in general in drafts. Like, oh, you don't want to
get them too early. You want to make sure you get a value. I think we tend to trick ourselves into
thinking that dynasty is a lot longer than it
is. Like it's really just redraft plus. And it's, you know, we're so impatient with these things.
If I know that I'm going to have a really good running back, give me at least another good year.
I'm happy with that. I don't know that I'm necessarily saying this is too early because
we may never get the Jonathan Brooks that we all wanted and hoped for and expected. These injuries
piling on like this are really serious. And they've got me very, very get the Jonathan Brooks that we all wanted and hoped for and expected. These injuries piling on like this are really serious
and they've got me very, very scared about Jonathan Brooks,
who I was really high on.
Yeah, I was unfortunately high on Jonathan Brooks.
I have too much of him in rookie drafts.
I know, Jacob, you were pretty high on him in redraft.
Is he someone if during a rookie draft you can,
oh, wow, Is that accurate?
We have a Seahawks firing that just happened.
Do you feel like Jonathan Brooks,
if you can get him for a second in a rookie draft this year,
would you do that, Gibbs?
Yeah, I think so.
But man, it's tough and it's depressing.
I have a ton of Jonathan Brooks and he looked
really good. It was a really small sample size, but he got going there and just looked powerful,
looked really like everything you thought he would be with the jump cuts and everything.
But this is tough. Yeah, I think it makes good value for him.
Yeah, definitely a mid second, probably an early second and just loving life if I can
get him for anything less than that.
Alfredo, did you just go back to back?
You did back to back with tight ends, Dalton Kincaid and Mark Andrews.
And I think that's, that's pretty good.
Like if, if Mark Andrews is still Mark Andrews.
Like we took a step back this year, right?
How do you view that Andrews dynamic going into 20?
Are the playoffs going to have a big impact on that?
I think they always do.
People always remember like what you did lately for me and the playoffs, even though they
don't count towards fantasy and they're never used when we all put together our stats and
what a player did last year, the playoffs matter even though they don't count towards fantasy and they're never used when we all put together our stats and what a player did last year. The playoffs matter so much, they stick in the
minds of not only just the fans, but the coaches as well. And I think we still got to see that Mark
Andrews has it. He's not totally washed. And I think that if you're, if you're willing to believe
in Lamar Jackson, this Ravens offense, and maybe they're not totally mutually exclusive, but
I do think that you still kind of have to believe quite a bit in Mark Andrews who showed that he
s he still does have it down the line. Like he didn't just totally burn out here,
which by the way, the neck, the other player I was up against here was,
I was thinking Brandon I, you, he went two picks later and I have a little bit of
buyer's remorse, but I'm glad this is a mock so I can just try some weird stuff.
Yeah, I don't, I don't know at all.
I mean, you, you passed on him for Jayden Reed Gibbs.
So, so where are you at on Brandon IU who, you know, again, a year ago at this
time, we were all expecting, I think he may have been a consensus top 12 dynasty
wide receiver.
Yeah.
Him and Reed are tough to evaluate because they both have some data points
that are extremely bullish but and they both play in offices that can you know produce elite
efficiency I guess going with Reid is that he's younger and I feel more
confident in Jordan Love and he's not currently hurt like he could have a big
run in the playoffs or something like that but at the same time it's been a
really frustrating second
half of the season here.
But I think so much that has to do with Green Bay just going
extremely run heavy, which I don't think necessarily
is something that is going to continue going forward.
It might be the case next year.
But yeah, Ayuk's tough to evaluate.
Because even before he got hurt, he wasn't.
And this could just be from missed time. but he wasn't playing the same kind of role that
he had in the past.
Um, in terms of target volume and all that.
And then we saw Joanne Jennings come in and be really productive.
Um, I don't know.
I I'm a little bit hesitant on Iuke.
Okay, give.
So I've got confirmation from Schaefer in the private chat, Ryan Grubb, let go by the
Seattle Seahawks.
He did make it like maybe twice as many games as Shane Waldron did in Chicago.
But does this have any impact on how you view what we saw from JSN and DK Metcalf this year?
In the second half of the year, JSN kind
of became the alpha in this offense. Obviously Tyler Lockett just completely went away. DK
Metcalf struggled until I guess it was week 18. He looked okay. But was that more of a
grub thing? Was that more of an injury thing? Or was that more of a no JSN is just an alpha
now and DK is fading away?
I think I lean more towards the latter there.
I was really impressed with Jason this year.
I don't think that it was necessarily like Grubb scheming him stuff,
because honestly for most of the season Grubb was trying to get the ball to DK Metcalf.
I'm surprised to see him go because it does feel like he didn't get a fair shake here with the offensive line play this year.
But at the same time, I think part of the problem with Seattle this year was that Grubb was just not very reactive to what was happening and what his circumstances were.
And he kept trying to design all this downfield stuff to DK Metcalf and it was getting them in second and long third and long over and over and over.
Um, so I think if anything, we could see with them moving a different direction, even, you know, more, um, looks for Jason, like more of an
offense that's centered around him.
Cause I think that makes sense given their personnel.
I thought round six was a really interesting rounds.
We had Devante Smith and Tyree kill at the top.
There's we could talk about that for the next hour.
Matthew Stafford, then JJ McCarthy, Roma Dunze, Chris Olave, George Pickens,
Chuba Hubbard, Jalen Waddell, Jamison Williams, Dalton Kincaid.
And then I took DK Metcalf.
So it's Smith Hill Stafford, McCarthy Odunze Olave, Pickens, Hubbard,
Waddell, Williams, Kincaid and Metcalf.
Alfredo, we had a question in the chat about Tyreek's comments.
Started off like, it seemed like a normal interview.
By the end of it, I think he had officially requested a trade.
He says, I'm out.
How are you viewing Tyreek as a 30 year old wide receiver who doesn't want to
play on the team that just guaranteed him $60 million over the next three years?
Is this a good value for Tyreek or are you scared? I will say as a Dolphins fan, I am scared.
That interview was weird, by the way. It kind of seemed like he started very professionally in the mid sentence, decided, you know what, I'm out of here and kind of made that deal right there.
I mean, older wide receivers worry me,
but older wide receivers that have to rely
on their athleticism worry me even more.
So I think whether he's staying with Miami
or even going to a new team, even a better team,
a better offense, better quarterback,
whatever you want to say,
I think the downward trajectory for Tyree kill is real.
I think this is this is we see this often with players that rely solely on speed and obviously
he's a very talented player, but they drop off the cliff really, really fast as they get older.
And him being at that 30 mark, it worries me a lot. So I do think this value is kind of about
right in terms of where he'd be going in a, in a, in a dynasty startup.
I was actually really looking at both Jalen Waddle and Jameson Williams, because I would
have them over Tyreek if I was looking at the draft board.
Yeah.
I had James Williams, the top guy in my queue.
Gibbs, I, McCarthy goes to the Sam Darnold manager.
Is it as simple as that?
If Darnold stays in Minnesota, you've definitely got a
borderline QB1. If Darnold leaves Minnesota, then listen,
they just made Sam Darnold a borderline QB1. JJ McCarthy is
probably going to be that good too.
Yeah, I think that makes sense. I love Kevin O'Connell. I think
he deserves all the praise that he gets. And so I definitely think
he could be successful with McCarthy as well. I think it makes sense to pair those two up.
Alfredo, we are coming to the end of round eight. I'm going to read the round seven results in just
a moment, but I'm looking and I've got the quarterback sorted by kind of an interesting
ranking. It's the guy, how I had them ranked at the start of last year. And so the best quarterbacks available, Russell Wilson, Kirk Cousins, Will Levis,
Deshaun Watson, Daniel Jones, Derek Carr, Gardner Mentschew, Justin Fields.
Any interest in any of those guys?
The only one that piques my interest slightly is Russell Wilson.
Yeah, because I think he might be the only one that's still starting next season.
But yeah, it's a it's a wasteland at this point.
This is this is where I'm absolutely turning my attention elsewhere from quarterbacks.
Kirk Cousins I think it's just done.
Done I think the Justin Justin Fields is. We keep trying to make it happen.
It's not going to happen.
It's just, it doesn't matter what team doesn't matter what weapons it's just, it's not happening.
Uh, Derek Carr, I think we've seen what he is at his best.
That is worse.
So the only guy here that I think I have any fantasy interest in remains Russell Wilson.
So it gives, I think it's interesting because I kind of just assume that car is going to
start again next year.
That the saints probably have at least two tank years before they're in a position
to where they can field a reasonably competitive football team or they can just keep eating
salary cap and try to get to 500 every year. In a, in the super flex league, do you just,
if you need a QB three, do you want a guy like car who's probably going to start
or a guy like fields who, if he, on the rare chance he gets to start, he might
be a league altering guy.
Oh, I'm fine with car.
If depending, if he falls to me, basically, um, I don't want to reach for him.
Really.
I wouldn't really be excited about taking him in this range, but, um, I
thought he played pretty well early in the year before everybody got hurt, before he got hurt.
And there were some exciting signs from the offensive changes there.
So I don't think he's a terrible pick in this range when you get to the bottom, you're
scraping bottom of the barrel here.
Let's take our second break.
We'll talk about round seven.
We'll talk about the ridiculous pick that I just made. Round seven of this super flex tight end premium PPR dynasty startup mock, as I
should say that you've probably gathered by now without rookies, I took Terry
McClure and to start the rat drought round.
Then Alfredo Brown immediately gave me buyer's remorse by taking Mark Andrew's
good pick, then Jayden Reed, then Brandon Iuke, then Chris Godwin, who is a free agent, by the
way, then Jerry Judy, which I think is an interesting place for him still young,
but who's his QB, then Christian McCaffrey.
How ridiculous does that look at pick 79 overall on the draft board?
Then David Montgomery, Debo Samuel, Mike Evans, Aaron Rogers, and Isaiah Pacheco.
That is the wildest round of a startup mock I've maybe ever seen.
McLaurin Andrews Reed, Iuke Godwin, Judy McCaffrey,
Judy McCaffrey, Judy, then McCaffrey,
Montgomery, Debo, Evans, Rogers, Pacheco.
I don't know which outlandish thing I'm more interested in,
but let's start with Christian McCaffrey at pick 79
to Adam Azer.
Where are you at on this, Jacob Gibbs?
No idea.
No idea what to do with that guy.
And I think that is reflected in drafts.
You see him go all over the place.
This range is obviously hilarious
to see him with some of these names.
I would take David Montgomery ahead of him, I think.
That might be crazy.
It depends on your team construction.
So he, this is Aeser, he's already got Bucky Irving
and James Cook, so he feels really good at running back.
Honestly, I think that makes a lot of sense.
Like his team has the ability to compete next year for sure.
He has Joe Burrow and Baker Mayfield as well,
but he also has a lot of really young guys.
So this is like truly just a swing on upside.
If McCaffrey hits, then like he has the ability to compete.
And if not, then it's not the big deal
because he has a young core.
Yeah, I think that's right.
Jerry Judy went one pick before him, Alfredo.
Jerry Judy may have still finished the second half of the season as a top 10 wide receiver
in the second half.
He's still, I think he's 25 or 26 years old, like entering the prime of his NFL career.
He's not going to have Jameis Winston.
We don't even know what team is probably going to play on.
How do you feel about Jerry Judy and dynasty at this point, Alfredo?
This is another guy that I keep you in the wet blanket, but I kind of feel like
we know what Jerry Judy is, and we've seen this same song and dance before.
Every time Jamis Winston ends up starting for a team, there's like one guy
that he makes really, really good.
And then when Jamis isn't there, it's just like, oh, okay.
That's what that guy actually is. I mean,
it's not like Jerry hasn't had a bunch of opportunities to be good throughout
his career. And even this year, I know he had,
he kind of did like the Deandre Swift thing where he had like three or four
games where he was really, really good.
And all the people that have been sick in the head and waiting for him to break
out said, see, I told you it's been there.
And it's not that Jerry Judy is not a good player for one reason or another. He hasn't really quite put it together.
And then, I mean, we kind of saw him crash back down to earth. It wasn't really the same guy over
the last few weeks. And I mean, if it's taking 18 targets for a guy to put up these kinds of numbers,
I don't know that Jerry Judy is getting that next season in the Browns offense or really any offense.
So I'm not as high on Jerry Judy as other
people. And actually on the football guys dynasty show, I've recommended selling
Jerry Judy right now, because this is highest that his dynasty values been in
like two years.
Yeah. I mean, you probably should have sold him a month ago. Right. Would have
been the ideal time to sell. Let's take a look at round eight starts with Joe
Mixon, Derek Henry. We've reached that portion of the draft.
How many, the next thing we're going to talk about is how many
running backs Joshua show has.
Cause I've got a feeling it's 17, but mixing and Henry and David
and Joku there's Kyle Pitts at pick 88 Gibbs loves it.
Gino Smith, Cortland Sutton.
There's another old running back in James Connor.
Jamie sniped Dan with Tyrone Tracy.
So he took Zach Charbonnet away from Gibbs,
who settled for Brian Robinson.
Jalen McMillan goes 95th.
And then I took Russell Wilson.
Alfredo, is Jalen McMillan's dynasty value
entirely dependent on whether or not
Chris Godwin stays in Tampa?
I wouldn't say entirely, but a lot of it is based on that.
And a little bit of it, if I'm just being honest, was a panic pick because I realized
I talked way too long, had six seconds on the clock.
I looked up my rank and say, yep, Jalen McMillan seems good.
And I threw him on there.
That's what you get for not having a cue on a podcast.
But I wouldn't be upset with Jalen McMillan as my wide receiver three on a dynasty team.
He's shown throughout the end of the season here that he can be productive and he's not going to be just a one trick pony.
I think a lot of for him throughout the season was he just was not comfortable
coming from the concepts that he was running in Washington's offense with Ryan
Grubb to the NFL and running this kind of whole new system with Liam Cohen.
He just did not look comfortable running his routes.
He was running everything at what seemed like 75% speed and his hands weren't
confident. He didn't have his hands up all the time doing a lot of body catches. And then as the season went on, you
see him get a little bit more comfortable. He was able to play through contact. He was
able to do things that you see pro receivers doing. So, uh, yeah, I would say most of his
dynasty value is going to depend on Chris Godwin, but I think even if Chris Godwin comes
back, I don't know that he's going to be the same Chris Godwin that we are used to.
We are flying through this round, this, this mock, let's get to round nine.
This is the ridiculous pick that I made Gibbs that maybe it was a great pick.
Maybe the pick of the draft in a tight end premium draft.
I start the draft round nine off with Travis Kelsey right after him, Ricky
Pearsall, Josh Downs, Jonathan Brooks.
We are, this is just the hopes and dreams around Jacobi Myers, Michael Pittman, John who Smith
Alvin Camara, Isaiah likely Khalil Shakir.
That was a good pick from Pfeiffer Travis ETN and Deandre Swift.
So Kelsey Pierce, all Downs Brooks Myers, Pittman Smith, Camara, likely
Shakir ETN. Is the Kelsey pick
like a great pick if he announces he's coming back in six weeks after the Chiefs win the
Super Bowl? Or is it just a terrible pick because he's going to retire after they win
the Super Bowl?
Yeah, you got the chance that he retires and also when he was tied in three this year,
I did not feel like he looked very good this year.
As somebody who watches all of the chief's games.
And with her, she writes coming back.
I wouldn't be surprised if like he is even less
of a priority in terms of getting him the ball next year.
Like he might kind of just be along for the ride
if he is here next year.
This is earlier than I would take.
I'm curious what you think as somebody
who also watched.
I was really down on Kelsey coming into this year.
He was my bust at the tight end position.
Um, I think that was warranted, even though he finished his tight end three.
Um, he wasn't worth the cost, but in a tight end premium league, if we're getting,
he still saw, had a lot of catches.
He still had a lot of targets.
He's just not doing much after the catch and the touchdowns are kind of disappearing.
I think it's entirely dependent on if he comes back, if he comes back, I think this
cost for a tight end in a tight end premium league is a great buy.
But he, the reason he's this cheap is because there is a legitimate chance
that Travis Kelsey could retire in six weeks after the chiefs inevitably win the super
bowl.
Yeah, I'm jinxing it just over and over and over again, Alfredo.
It's okay though.
Like who cares?
Nobody does.
What do you think about Khalil Shakir?
Now, Pfeiffer is obviously your nemesis, the bills Homer. I'm going to try to
tell you, you took your pick. So I don't have to talk too long about that. The bills are certainly
going to go get a number one wide receiver next year. Right. I mean, you'd think, didn't they
already do that? Like we got wide, a number one wide receiver at home. Amari Cooper is like supposed
to be there. I don't know what it is about the bills. They've kind of feel cursed. Everyone that we think is supposed to be their number one wide receiver
just really isn't whether it was Dalton Kincaid. A lot of people were believing in Keon Coleman
coming out and they go and get the trade from Mari Cooper. And it's like, you know,
who's been consistent no matter what, clear here. And I just don't think that enough people really
take that into consideration. The intangible part of it is that quarterbacks like who they like.
Quarterbacks are going to continue to throw the ball to guys who just simply get open. And that's
what Khalil Shakir has always done, whether it was in Boise State or in the pros. He's been one of
those guys that I've just, I've held onto every single share that I have of him in dynasty leagues.
And it has just blossomed beautifully. So I, this is one of those times where I'd say like,
I don't know the wide receiver one necessarily matters in this team because Josh Allen spreads the ball out so much and
the touchdown variance, a lot of it falls on Josh Allen rushing.
So it's just kind of who are going to be the guys that get the targets right now.
It's been Kaleesh Kher.
Let's run through round 10.
Then we'll get to our teams and we'll get out of here.
I want to tell everybody first off, thanks for being here and watching this mock.
If you're watching on YouTube or thanks for listening. I want to tell everybody thank you for listening to the podcast and if you
want to know the last six rounds of this draft go to cbssports.com this afternoon it will be posted.
Also thank you to everyone who participated obviously I was in this draft, Alfredo was in
this draft, Gibbs was in this draft. We had Dan not on the can.
We had Jamie, we had Matt Donnelly, we had Azer, we had Matt Cooper from Couch
Scouts, we had Joel Cox, Adam Pfeiffer, JB Cho knows, and RJ White, Alfredo
trying really hard not to autopick and he failed.
He didn't, I, you know, I, I, I feel like a couple of times here.
I have, uh, Saved you from that, but I was unable to do that.
Cause I was talking round 10 RJ starts it off with Tucker craft.
Then Derek Carr, Rashad white, Cooper cup goes with pick one 12.
In case you thought Christian McCaffrey at pick 79 wasn't funny enough.
Matt Cooper takes Aaron Jones, Keon Coleman, Devontae Adams, Pat Friarmoose,
Calvin Ridley, Trey Benson, Tank Dell, J.K.
Dobbins, Gibbs, I'm going to read the names again.
You tell me your favorite pick in round 10.
Kraft, Carr, White, Cup, Jones, Coleman, Adams, Moose, Ridley, Benson, Dell, and Dobbins.
I actually really like Dobbins at the end of the round there.
I thought about taking him because I need somebody who can help me this year.
I just got Pollard on the way back, so it was like those type of guys.
And I think people forget how young Dobbins is. And I have been really
encouraged what we've seen from him. I think Coleman is an interesting pick to use somebody
I was really down on coming in. But he's played well, he's made some big plays. And he's shown
the ability to like go up and get the ball and really shield people off and make those
types of plays, which I think could be huge with Josh Allen
as he gets more comfortable together.
Like you said, they're probably gonna bring
somebody else in, but if they don't,
then that I think signals a lot of belief in Coleman.
I think he might be their guy.
I mean, they drafted him, they traded back
and drafted him early to be the guy,
and it's just been kind of an off the town season
with injuries, but he's really intriguing
at this range of the draft. Let's take a look at Alfredo's team. How much anxiety did you
get when I just said that Alfredo? I wonder how many of your players without looking at your
roster in the draft room you could actually name on your team currently. At quarterback, you have
Lamar Jackson and Kyler Murray. Starting running backs are Jonathan Taylor and Najee Harris. Wide receivers among Ross, St.
Brown, Rashid Rice, Jalen McMillan.
You have both Dalton, Kincaid and Mark Andrews at tight end.
And on injured reserve, I mean, on your bench, you have Tank Dell and Ricky
Pierce all grade your own team.
Um, I think started off really strong.
Things looked great.
Really petered out there at the end.
I'll give this a really strong B.
It was it was very strong.
It was probably closer to an A at the beginning.
Looking at it like a B minus towards the end.
I'll give us like a BB plus.
Jacob Gibbs at quarterback.
You have Drake May
and Bryce Young. That's fun. At running back, Brian Robinson Jr. and Trey Benson at wide receiver,
Drake London, Jamison Williams, Jaden Reed, Brock Bowers at tight end, obviously Josh Downs at
the flex. You also have Michael Pinnix at quarterback, even more fun.
And Tony Pollard at the flex. How do you feel about this roster?
Tony Pollard at RB too. I don't know if Trey Benson is going to be helping me anytime soon.
Yeah, it's a risky build, but this is kind of the way I roll in dynasty. Like my next 10 picks,
probably eight of them would be running backs. And so just load up on lottery tickets some of these young guys like Jaylen Warren if
he makes it back, those kind of guys are going to be found on most of my dynasty rosters.
And so it just kind of comes down to what happens if we get a year like this year where
none of the running backs really get hurt, then I've got to really hit on some of these
early picks.
And if not, then, you know, if I get some of these running backs
to step in, then it's a really, really good team.
Um, I don't know.
I'm curious, like, this is a three, this is full PPR start three receivers, right?
Yep.
Yeah.
I don't know if my receivers are strong enough for this to be a strong team.
I'm going to give this team a B, B minus.
It's got a lot of feel.
How do you feel about the Brock Bowers pick now looking at the
pit, the team threw 11 rounds?
Um, I feel good about it.
Like McBride wasn't going to make it back to me.
Um, I guess I could have taken the Porta in round four.
Um, but yeah, I feel good about it.
I, that's the only chance I was going to have to get Brock Bowers.
And I think he's just going to be so valuable in this format.
And now you guys can both critique my team.
I've got Josh Allen and Caleb Williams and Russell Wilson are my quarterbacks
at running back.
I have Kyron Williams and JK Dobbins.
The wide receivers are Nico Collins, Jordan Addison and DK Metcalf and Terry
McLaurin and at tight end I have Travis Kelsey and Evan Ingram,
a combined 100 years old.
I'm going to give, I feel like we're boring with these rankings, but this is in the B
range for me as well.
I'm going to give this a B plus.
You got a ton of upside with your receivers.
Like all four of those guys could have really strong seasons. And they're also relatively young.
Caleb is probably gonna be what swings his team as well as your tight ends.
I don't feel much confidence in either one of those tight ends.
I felt like, and this could be influenced by injury, but
I felt like Evan Ingram didn't quite look like himself when he got back and
sort of similar to Tyree Kill.
He's a guy whose game is predicated on speed and athleticism.
And we also don't necessarily know what's gonna happen with him next year, of similar to Tyree Kill. He's a guy whose game is predicated on speed and athleticism.
And we also don't necessarily know what's going to happen with him next year, what his role is going to be, where he's going to be. So if him and Kelsey are kind of nothing in this format,
then that's, that's rough. It was like we're playing blackjack Alfredo. I got the B plus.
I'm going to stay. I'm going to stay. No hit. You don't have to say anything about the team,
Alfredo, though I do want you to tell everybody where they can find your dynasty work this
off season.
Yeah.
I mean, you can always follow me on any of the social media platforms at Alfredo Brown.
And then you can always check out the football guys dynasty podcast with Jagger May, Jeff
Bell.
They bring me on there all the time here in the off season to talk rookies and dynasty
stuff.
And then of course my show, the football guys, a fantasy football show with Dave
Kluge, we're going to be going on throughout the off season as well,
talking about rookies.
And there might be like a little bit of crossover into dynasty as well.
So, uh, lots of cool stuff happening over at football guys this off season.
Can I clip that and send it to Dave where you say my show, the football show,
the football guys show with Dave Kluge.
It's Alfredo's show with, I love it. I absolutely love it. Dave will love it. Alfredo Brown show with Dave Kuhn. It's Alfredo's show with I love it.
I absolutely love it.
Dave will love it.
Alfredo Brown Show featuring Dave Kuhn.
Yeah.
Yes.
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Yeah, check out my show, Beyond the Box score
featuring Dan Schneier.
It's my show.
It's great.
We'll be back.
Love you, Dan. We'll be back with some offseason content soon. A lot of
a lot of dynasty centric stuff. That's the type of stuff that
I'm psyched to get into in the offseason is like, re-evaluating
everything we just saw. And then obviously digging into the
rookies as well, but mostly like providing that frame of
reference on what we just saw from the year one, year two
guys, and like what that potentially means looking forward.
And so that's the kind of stuff that's coming up soon.
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