Fantasy Football Today - The Best and Worst of Free Agency with Joe Pisapia (03/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: March 16, 2026Joe Pisapia of FantasyPros joins the show to give his thoughts on free agency! First, he tells us his favorite signing (6:55) which is Kyler Murray to the Vikings followed by his least favorite signi...ng (16:05). What are the Seahawks doing at running back!? ... We talk about DJ Moore on the Bills (24:00) and if he is a better option than the Bears receivers. Joe also tells you in which round (29:30) he would draft Ken Walker and Travis Etienne. Is Walker going to be overyped with the Chiefs? ... Quick reactions and rankings (39:30) to the wide receivers who changed teams including Wan'Dale Robinson, Mike Evans, Romeo Doubs and Michael Pittman. Plus our thoughts on Isaiah Likely and some other tight ends. And we finish with predictions for WRs with new quarterbacks (46:00). How will Garrett Wilson, Jaylen Waddle and Drake London do this season? ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 Join our Bracket Challenge: https://picks.cbssports.com/college-basketball/ncaa-tournament/bracket/pools/kbxw63b2ge2dsmjzhezdg===/join?invited-by=ivxhi4tzhizdeobrgeydknrq&via-medium=copy&ttag=FF26_cpy_invite_new_mt_bpm&pool-join-key=3owvhyd8813jd10btw5r33x9jpei5zvi&senderRole=mua1nba7gbezrh To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports.
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It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
Off to the races, and he stays on his feet.
Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
The people have spoken.
They've said we've heard enough.
Dave and Jamie and Heath.
Not necessarily from the host, we like him.
He's great.
But the other three, we've had enough.
We want some fresh opinions.
Bring it a real expert.
And we said, fine.
bringing Joe P. Sapia.
As Jamie leaves the studio, Joe P. Sapia, Fantasy Pros is here.
And so is Jamie.
Welcome, Joe.
Welcome to Fantasy Football today.
How's it going?
It's going very well.
I can never get enough of Heath and Dave and Jamie and you as well.
Also, I'm wearing my Mike Vrabel costume today.
I hope you appreciate it.
I realize that when I left the house this morning,
drop my daughter off at school that I'm wearing like the Blue Patriots
with the red vest going on here.
So you're welcome, America.
I dressed up for the show today, Halloween style.
Adam, are you sure you know who's on the show today, though?
Yeah, I think so.
You sure.
Jamie and Joe, yeah.
How can I forget?
You sure, though.
Yeah, sure, Jamie.
Why?
Why do you ask?
Just want to make sure that you know who is on the show.
We're really doing this?
Oh, God.
Go ahead.
You want to narrate, Jamie?
Sure.
Adam wanted to have Joe on the show.
Or, no, Thomas wanted to have Joe on the show.
Thanks, Thomas, by the way.
Who is Joe?
He's Sapia?
Thomas said, yeah, he goes, oh, Jamie's on this text.
I'm never going to hear at the end of that.
Well, in all fairness, there's a lot of other people named Joe.
It used to be a more common name.
Not so much nowadays.
But thanks, Azer.
I thought we were friends, you know, all these years.
But I'm glad we could expose this here for the public.
This makes me feel much better.
There's a backstory to this, though, Joe,
because Adam forgets everything about all.
all of our, you know, favorite guests.
Like we have one of our own CBS colleagues,
one of our own CBS colleagues,
who's been on with us for probably 10 plus years,
our NFL draft guy, Ryan Wilson.
He never remembers the podcast that Ryan's on.
It's not true.
Stop lying.
You're such a lie.
Like, at least this time you have text message proof of what I did.
But the other thing, like, it was just a joke.
No, it was so random.
Thomas was like, hey, you want to see if Joe wants to come on?
I'm like, wait, like, do we work with a Joe?
And that's, oh, oh, who's Joe, I said.
So I felt really bad about that.
I'm going to give you a pass, even though Jamie's not.
First of all, shout out to Thomas who's showing me love.
Thomas right here, buddy.
Love it.
But Azer, you know, I understand things get a little crazy sometimes.
And, you know, you're hosting shows as a host myself.
I understand what that's like sometimes.
You're trying to book people and do all these things.
And sometimes you just forget, you know?
So it's okay.
If he said Pisa Pia and he said, then we'd fight.
Then we'd have a problem.
And I would probably delete you from my phone.
That would have been bad.
We're going to ask Joe today his favorite free.
agent move for fantasy, his least favorite.
We're going to talk about wide receivers with new quarterbacks.
Guys like Drake London, maybe you'll have a new quarterback, too, is going to compete for the
starting job with Michael Panix Jr.
Jalen Waddle's got a new quarterback.
Garrett Wilson's got a new quarterback.
Obviously, the Minnesota wide receivers will ask Joe about that.
We'll even talk about DJ Moore.
It seems like that's been so long ago, but we'll get his thoughts on DJ Moore going
to Buffalo.
We're going to ask him how we can find his content in a minute.
But Jamie, I want to play a quick game here.
I think Joe, from what I'm.
If this is the Joe that I think it is.
Oh, here we go.
I think he's a kind of a movie guy.
So let's play a game, Jamie.
Over under three and a half of the 10 movies that were nominated for Best Picture yesterday.
How many do you think Joe has seen over or under three and a half of the 10?
I'm going under.
I'm going over.
Joe, how many of the 10 Best Picture nominees did you see?
I will say this, Azer.
you would be correct.
Normally you would be correct.
But last year was a very weird year.
It was not a great year for movies, just period.
I keep trying to drag myself to watch one battle after another.
I hear nothing but good things.
I'm not the biggest DeCaprio guy.
I'm not the biggest Paul Thomas Anderson guy.
I hear it's very good.
So I'm going to watch it eventually,
but it's been a very busy series of coaching football on every weekend
and doing MLB content on top of NFL content.
So normally, because I vote for the screen,
Actors Guild Award still in my life because that was my former life.
I see all the movies they get sent to me, all this stuff.
They stop sending them as much.
Now they want you to do everything digitally.
And, you know, when you have the physical copy, you go, oh, yeah, I got to go watch that.
And you put it in the DVD player still because I'm an old fart and I'll do that.
And I'll still watch the movie.
Sinners was very good.
I did see sinners.
And I would like to see Hamnet because I did study Shakespeare in Oxford.
This is a true story.
Whoa.
But I haven't seen it yet.
It's on the docket.
I'm hoping to see it this month.
So I'm a little behind.
Jamie Eisenberg wins this round.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
I'm putting Shakespeare in Oxford in the notes.
We're going to come back to that.
Let's get into football a little bit here.
And the Eagles signed Dallas Goddert to a one-year deal.
He has finished as a, he's been in the league eight years.
He had a modest rookie season.
Since then, he's been no worse than tight end 13 per game in PPR.
Every single season, seven straight season.
And he's usually better than that in non or half PPR.
And actually in the AJ Brown era, Dallas Goddard has been a top five or six tight end per game twice in four years, including last season when he caught a bunch of touchdowns.
The Titans restructured Calvin Ridley's contract.
The Giants signed a couple of wide receivers, Calvin Austin.
I think we may have touched on that, but they also signed Darno Mooney over the weekend.
So, Joe, let's get into it.
What was your favorite free agent signing or trade?
You want to go back before free agency started with DJ Moore.
Favorite move, I guess, that we've seen.
the last few weeks. Well, I think my favorite slash most important is you either have the coaching
quarterback in this league or you don't, right? And the Minnesota Vikings have the coach. I do believe
that, but they certainly did not have the quarterback last year. And the JJ McCarthy situation
just did not work out. Had he stayed healthy maybe that first year and he was under center more often
and getting more reps, maybe 2025 would have been a little bit different. It was not. And unfortunately,
now they have to pivot. So the Kyler Murray signing to me is the most important one because
Kyla Murray is in this situation where he has no choice.
He has to perform.
This is that one-year show-me-deal kind of situation.
He knows basically his future earning potentials based off his 2026 performance.
He's landed in a spot with Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison, right?
About a good of a spot as you possibly can with a great offensive-minded coach in Kevin McCartney.
And I just, Kevin O'Connell, excuse me.
I don't understand at this point why you can't look at this one as the most important one.
Now, is it the best? I guess we'll find out.
But it's definitely the most important one because if he doesn't succeed in 2026 here with Kevin O'Connell,
what happens is then you get relegated to that other bin.
And we all know what that other bin is, which is, well, you know, he's going to come in for
competitions and we'll see what it is and the former number one pick.
And this is an opportunity here where Sam Darnold has kind of shown you, hey, look,
you could be a former number one overall pick or a former number one overall pick or a
former top five pick, go in here, get your career back on track, and go have success either there
or other places.
So I think for fantasy situations, Kyler Murray certainly brings a lot more than they've had last
season.
And hopefully the Justin Jefferson value bounces back big time.
It's a great time to buy because I think there's still questions about how Kyler Murray's
going to do.
And I think when you look back at the history of the Arizona Cardinals, too, I'm sure Jamie will attest
to this also.
It's been a bad organization for many, many years.
There was that little window here and there with Carson Palmer, that little window there
with Kurt Warner, but for the most part, this organization kind of is one of the bottom tiers
of the NFL. And they haven't done a great job of growing young quarterbacks over the years.
That's really never been their MO, right, in the 25, 35, 35 years of, you know, Arizona Cardinals football.
So for me, I think Kyler Murray's most important one. And I do believe that O'Connell is the guy that can
go ahead and get this talent right. And I also think that when you give him that many weapons,
you give them this fresh start and you give them all these things, it can only go up from there.
and to me, this is the guy here
where I think everything pivots here
now going forward for Kyla Murray.
If he succeeds, he has a career in the NFL.
If he fails, then it's,
you're a career backup,
and you know,
you might never see Kyla Murray
in that same fantasy relevance again.
Do you think he'll succeed?
I'm going to say yes.
Because I do think it's an environment, too,
with a fan base that's very supportive
in Minnesota that I do think,
I think they're hungry for it.
I think last year was very disappointing.
So I think Kyla Murray also,
was probably getting a little tired of all the jokes,
maybe tired of the short jokes and the call duty jokes
and then all the other jokes.
Like it's time to make sure that you don't become a joke.
And I think you kind of start to feel that pressure as an athlete,
especially as you mature.
You know,
when an organization that drafts you and pays you and takes you number one overall,
eventually jettisons you, right?
And you know that like, okay, well, this is my career now.
You know, everything might have been easy
and might have all these options.
And I was a good baseball player and I was a good football player.
And I had all these things kind of thrown in my feet.
And now you're kind of thrown out into trash a little bit.
I think it changes your mindset.
So I do think he's in the right environment.
And KLC to me is one of the best coaches out there.
And he's proven that.
You know, he's always always in with Sam Darnold.
You know, I thought Daniel Jones had he gone back there would have been a really
interesting piece too.
But at the end of the day, this is Kyler Murray's fork in the road.
And I do think that he's enough of a competitor that he will wake up,
smell the coffee and show up here this season and cash in.
Now, after this season, we can revisit that conversation.
because once guys get the big contract and get the bag and get the guarantees,
all of a sudden some of the work ethic changes again, too.
So I think it's very important for him to impress upon this organization or any future organization.
Hey, I'm taking this stuff seriously.
I'm the real deal.
I'm a competitor.
He's played hurt before too.
I don't think he gets enough credit for that.
He's a smaller player.
We know that.
We know sometimes that's, you know, he's played through injuries, shoulder injuries,
all kinds of stuff before because he does take some hits there because he is a mobile quarterback.
I just think that these kind of guys more often than not.
do show up in these situations and I do think he will.
You know what they're going to say if it doesn't work out.
Like it's January and they're reflecting.
You know, they're going to say, they're going to say,
now is the winter of our discontent.
That's right.
Very good.
Nor will Richard the third.
So can do the rest of it.
Made glorious summer by the son of York.
These clouds that loud upon our head, right?
You want to keep going?
Yeah, that's okay.
One line, you're from now in the deep bosom of the ocean berry.
Now with our brows bound with victorious wreaths.
Our bruised arms hung up for monuments.
Our stone alarms changed to merry meetings.
This is great.
I love it.
Jamie,
where you're at on Kyler versus Malik Willis?
Jamie.
Where am I?
Yeah.
You are Jamie, right?
You know I'm not good with names.
Jamie who?
We've had this conversation.
I know for right now, for fantasy purposes, prefer Malik Willis.
But I do think Kyler Murray is not far behind.
I just think that Murray's, to Joe's point.
has to prove it at this point.
And so does Malik Willis.
But I just like the rushing upside of what Malik Willis, I think, is going to do.
I want to see it from Kyler again.
Malik Willis could be the best rushing quarterback in the league.
And he may have to because of what that team is looking like right now.
So NFL-wise, it's not close.
I would rather have Kyle Murray.
Fantasy-wise, I'd rather have Malik Wills.
All right.
All right, let's take a break here.
We'll find out Joe's...
I think you're talking about two guys with immense upside if they hit.
Yeah, very different situation.
though. And we'll get Joe's least favorite free agent signing or trade when we come back.
Now, before we go to break, it's March Madness time. Yeah. Tournament starts kind of tomorrow,
but really Thursday. And we have a bracket challenge. So I think we'll put a link in the episode
description. I'll tweet it. But if you were in it last year, I'm just going to send a new invite.
So, you know, you'll have that. But we have a 2026 fantasy football today bracket challenge. And if you win
You are in the podcast league.
It's free to enter.
Just make your picks.
It's just for fun.
And we hope we get as many entries as we can and hope all of you.
Do you have Miami winning at all?
I don't even know if I'm going to pick them in round one because they're playing Missouri.
Miami's the 7.
Missouri is the 10.
I know nothing about Missouri.
The game is in St. Louis.
That's such garbage.
And I'm not really like a huge home field advantage.
I think it's overrated.
But the game's at 10 o'clock east.
Stern in St. Louis.
I just don't like the setup.
So I'll take them to win one game.
Are you going to take the Gators to win it all?
Of course.
Yeah.
Oh, you probably should.
All right.
Joe, you can be in the bracket challenge too if you want.
Hard pass.
I don't do the college basketball.
My brain will explode.
I can't cover NFL, MLB, and have two kids and coach football and still do college
basketball.
I mean, honestly, I probably should because probably knowing nothing is probably
than knowing anything.
That seems to be the case.
So maybe I should reconsider that, actually.
Yeah, so it seems like that answer was not to be for it.
Yes, Joe, Joe.
Whether does nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and outers of outrageous fortune or to take arms against a sea of troubles and by opposing end them.
You definitely were in some regional theater.
It's good beauty.
No, no, no, not regional.
Yeah, a little bit more regional.
Off Broadway, too, a little bit of everything.
You were off Broadway.
Oh, sure, yeah.
Wow, there's so much to learn.
Everybody stay tuned.
I'm a mystery, Adam, Azer.
Wrapped inside a riddle.
More of this.
when we come back on fantasy football today.
All right, we talked about the Viking situation.
Joe, what's your least favorite free agent signing or trade?
You know, here's the thing.
I think for the most part,
I was actually kind of happy with how most of it went.
I'll be honest.
There wasn't a lot where I was like,
oh, this is just the worst signing ever.
I think there's volatility potentially in what the Colts did,
which is you've overpaid for Pierce
and you've overpaid for Daniel Jones,
and they have to now reach that level
that you think they're going to. So I think there's danger in that, but there's also good outcomes
potentially in then that because I think the first 10 games of the year. You saw the Colts at one point,
I think we forget, we're the number one seed in the AFC. I feel like everybody kind of forgets that.
At one point, that's where they were. And yeah, they won some close games and yes, some of the bounces
the ball went their way. But they were at that top level. So I can understand the mindset is like,
this is our shot, especially for Shane Steichen, who's now been there a few years. He's had different
quarterbacks. I think he was kind of on the hot seat coming into last year and things started to work out.
So I feel like this was a, well, you have no choice.
Your backs against the wall.
You got to overpay and see if you can get it right.
And I hope it does, but I think there's a negative side to that.
I just think there were a couple teams that I was just very let down by.
I thought that maybe we'd get a fun like Tyler Algiers signing by the Denver Broncos.
That didn't happen.
The Broncos just kind of stood pat, which I know they're very good.
I know they're a team that was basically a Bow Knicks injury away for maybe going to the Super Bowl this year.
And I do think they're one of the favorites again going to next year.
but if you're not getting better, I don't know if you're going to keep up in the NFL.
I think that's problematic.
And I think the Seahawks is very strange because it's like they, do they not realize
that Zach Sharpenay is going to miss the year?
Did they not realize how long it takes to recover from an ACL injury and you let Ken Walker walk?
And I understand the reasons why.
I understand he had health concerns himself and, you know, do you want to pay at the highest
level for the best game he's had in his life in the NFL and all that?
I get all that.
But I don't know if Emmanuel Wilson is the answer either.
So there was a couple of teams that just kind of left me shaking my head.
And you're also lost your offensive coordinator too.
When Kubiak leaves, I'm looking at Seattle, you lost your running back, you lost your other
running back, you lost your offensive coordinator.
And this was a team also that really ran the football a lot and did everything off of the run, too,
which took a lot of pressure off Sam Darnold.
Sometimes you get a little too big for your britches.
And I don't know if maybe Seattle's bit off more they can chew this offseason.
We'll see what they do in the draft.
Maybe they want to go in for a Mike Washington or somebody like that, like one of the guys
I'll see.
But right now,
like those are two clubs in particular
that I think are really good teams,
won a Super Bowl champion.
I just don't understand what they did.
So I think there's more team losers
than there weren't necessarily individual losers
the way I looked at it.
I'm not sure what Jamie thinks.
Yeah, what do you think, Jamie?
Any signings or trades that you just didn't like?
I kind of agree with Joe.
It's kind of like almost what you didn't do.
I definitely agree on Alger.
I think it was a strange destination for him,
you know, knowing that just restructured.
James Connor and I wanted to see it.
Maybe Trey Benson had an opportunity to, you know, do some things.
So that was a little bit of a weird one.
Seattle definitely is a little strange.
I didn't love Aaron Jones staying in Minnesota.
I would have liked to see maybe a full year of Jordan Mason, not that I think he's great,
but at least younger and, you know, had some good moments when there was no Aaron Jones last
year in those five games.
So that was one that was a little bit weird.
And it's kind of just waiting for the kind of tie in the Seattle situation, like to see what's
next for either the draft or the guys that are still available.
be some guys, you know, available in trade, like Alvin Kamara staying in New Orleans right now
seems a little weird as well, you know, so Jacksonville, what are they going to do?
You know, I don't know if, you know, signing Chris Rodriguez is the answer there also, you know,
similar to Manuel Wilson, you know, losing Travis E.TN, who was a big part of what they did for
Liam Cohen in his first year. And now you have, you know, kind of a, you know, bigger
physical guy. I know there's a connection from what they did in Kentucky when they were in
college together, but that just doesn't feel like it's the right move for what the Jaguars
are trying to accomplish.
another team that you could put in the potential favorite conversation, although at the back end of that.
But yeah, it's kind of really just waiting to see what's next.
I also thought, you know, not that Romeo Dobbs didn't end up in a good spot, and I think it's a good signing by New England,
but it doesn't feel like it doesn't feel like it was the right finality to what this receiving court needed.
So you hope that he's a guy that could take the next step and be that guy for Drake May.
But I'm not even sure if he's going to be better, you know, just statistically than what's the Fon Diffon.
was. And so, you know, you're losing a proven guy like that, I don't know if that's the right
answer to help a young quarterback ascend and get you over the hump of what we saw in the Super Bowl,
which was, you know, not that the receiving core was the biggest issue, but it's not like
this made them significantly better.
I, yeah, I mean, I think we all kind of agree that the free agency was, it went pretty well
for fantasy values in terms of where guys ended up going, but the one that I really hate.
And I like it for the Colts, but I hate it for the Steelers is Pittman.
go into the Steelers. I just, I guess I'm still assuming Aaron Rogers is going to be their quarterback.
And, you know, I don't, I don't like it for Metcalf because Rogers can't throw the ball and won't
throw the ball downfield. He is quick out of the hands. He's one of the lowest A dot quarterbacks in
the NFL. And it didn't really fit DK Metcalf. I think it fits Pittman better than it fits
Metcalf. But the bottom line, it's like Kenneth Gainwell was, I guess, a big loss in the passing game because
he got so many targets. But Pittman's going to do better than Gainter.
well and I just don't think like I don't think they're throwing for that many more yards.
I don't think they're going to have a good passing game.
So now you have Pittman and Metcalf fighting on a below average passing offense.
And I just, I hate it guys.
Jamie, I don't, I really don't want to draft either of them.
I don't think I'll be drafting D.K. Metcalf.
I think I prefer I prefer Michael Pittman.
I think he fits better with Roger, assuming it's Rogers.
And I'm just not excited about them at all.
they'll probably end up being good values
because I think most people probably feel the same way.
You know, it just feels very uninspiring.
The head coaching higher feels uninspiring.
You know, getting Mike McCarthy,
while I do think it's an upgrade offensively
to what Arthur Smith was running.
And McCarthy, I don't think gets his due
for what he's done in Green Bay and Dallas.
But it just felt like they settled for an older,
also-ran type of coach.
They settled for their quarterback situation.
Probably once again,
they settled for not somebody,
maybe that's a young, exciting wide receiver.
They got a guy in Michael Pittman
who's, you know, clearly the last two years, tailed off a little bit.
But I do think you get good value on both those guys.
And, you know, as potential number three fantasy receivers,
they can do enough, I think, to help your fantasy team.
I don't know if we talked enough about, we don't have that.
I think there's only two that I can remember, right?
It's Kirk Cousins and Aaron Rogers coming off of Torniquilles.
And those guys really didn't have a lot of mobility.
I'm just thinking about Daniel Jones.
And you mentioned it, Joe, overpaying Daniel Jones,
overpaying Alec Pierce, but
it was kind of rough for Rogers' first
year back from the ASEA, from the Achilles.
Now, you're all talking about two guys that were in their late 30s.
That's true.
And they weren't as mobile as.
And Cousins wasn't the most mobile to begin with.
I think we could all agree on that one.
Right.
So the only thing you can look for for the Steelers maybe too is just
Arthur Smith not calling plays anymore.
The predictability of that offense last year was,
I mean, you could sit there on your couch and really not know much about
football and pretty much know what plays they were going to do.
Like it was just, it was so predictable.
So hopefully McCarthy will bring a little bit.
bit more of this unpredictability, open up the offense a little bit more.
I don't know where Aaron Rogers has left in the tank necessarily, but it certainly seems
like it's Rogers or bust for the Steelers.
I agree with Adam on that one.
All right.
Well, we can come back to the Colt at some point.
Let's, let me get your thoughts on, I think I was more excited about DJ Moore going
to Buffalo than anyone, but more.
So I asked this a couple of weeks ago when the trade happened, whenever that was.
Who would you draft first?
DJ Moore, Romo Dunezay, Luther Burney.
Colson Loveland.
Who's the first one off the board for you?
Now the fact that you mean DJ Moore is gone?
Yeah.
Well, theoretically, I think you would have to say DJ Moore,
because I don't think we have a clear answer to the bear's situation yet.
I think there's a lot of cases you can make for Luther Burden.
I think you're also not taking into account Roma Dunzei's injuries
if you just think it's Luther Burden to the moon because Odunzei was hurt last year.
And Dundsay is very, very capable.
but the emergence of Colson Loveland at the second half of the season and into the playoffs, too, was very intriguing.
And to me, Colson Loveland, I think, is probably the best value in ADP of those guys, because I think you're going to see, you know, the early tight end stuff happen.
And then Loveland will be, you know, right after those first two or three.
But it's still a question as to who with the Bears.
I don't think it's a question of who when it comes to the bills.
And let's not forget, too, DJ Moore has played with some pretty terrible quarterbacks.
I mean, we're talking about the tale of Heinekeys, the Will Greer.
you know, PJ Walker or, you know, Kyle Allen, and he's been productive pretty much with everybody.
So I still, look, is this the guy that I think is the transcendent wide receiver talent at
the stage of his career to, you know, this is not Randy Moss going with Tom Brady back in
2007 kind of stuff?
That's not that.
But is it a massive improvement over everything they have?
Absolutely.
And I don't think it's even close.
So I would go with DJ.
I don't know what Jamie thinks about this.
But to me, it's just a matter of, I think the Bears situation is still a work.
in progress, but we don't know the answer.
I know what the answer is, and even though there might be a limitation to what the ceiling is
because of the way the bills operate, I think it's pretty clear who the guy is and the guy for
targets has got to be DJ Moore.
I think you're right.
I mean, you know, again, it comes down to, you know, how comfortable do you feel about
either of the two young receivers taking a step forward, O'Donzee in year three, burden in
year two, you know, and can they ascend to, you know, even more heights than what we saw
when they were playing at their best.
And obviously O'Donzee at the start of the season was fantastic.
We have like a two or three game stretch of a burden.
I'm with you.
I think it's Loveland, you know, just based on what his talent level is.
And, you know, those four or five games we saw at the end of the season, it was 10 plus targets in all of them, including the playoffs, you know,
just where he was so dominant and such a factor and focal point of what Caleb Williams was doing.
You know, you're also buying into which system you think is going to help elevate these guys.
And, you know, Joe Brady's a little bit of an unknown right now, even though he's been calling plays for Buffalo for the last two plus seasons.
But now he's the guy.
And so now, you know, does that change?
what he wants to accomplish with Josh Allen,
accomplish with the passing game,
getting a guy like DJ Moore,
because he didn't have that.
You know, when he inherited the offense,
it was the end of Stefan Diggs.
So I think you're looking at DJ Moore,
one last hurrah of potential greatness, you know,
and by greatness, you know,
we're talking about maybe wide receiver 12 through 20
in that range.
I don't know if he gets better than that.
But it feels a little safer than O'Donzei or Byrd,
whichever order you prefer.
furtherman. It's also a matter of, you know, does, does Caleb take a big step forward versus
does Josh Allen get back to what he was when he had Stefan Diggs? Is he throwing more? Is he,
you know, allowed to now flourish a little bit differently because of now having a proven
pass catcher? And look, I don't think the bills are probably done either. You know, this is still
a receiving corps that has a guy in Khalil Shakir who they trust. They bring back Dawson
Knox, so I think the tight end position is solidified with, with Kincaid. But they allow, you know,
Samuel to leave, which makes sense.
They allow Josh Palmer to leave, which makes sense.
You know, Kionn Coleman's been a failure.
They're probably going to add somebody else still, and maybe it's, you know, I don't
think an early draft pick, but maybe it's somebody that slips through on draft day or
draft weekend, and that player can add something to this receiving core as well.
So I'm curious.
I'm going to probably draft all three in a similar range, you know, you know, when you do
so many leagues, you get the opportunity to take, you know, swings of different players.
Moore is probably the one I'll take first.
Oh, okay.
So you agree that Loveland on the value of Loveland, but okay.
Oh, I'm sorry.
If we're factoring in Loveland, I'll take Loveland first, then more than the bear's receivers.
All right.
So I think Joe is saying that Lovelland will have the best value, but he would take more first, unless I'm misquoting there.
If I was just going pure past catching at that point, yeah.
Like currently ADP-wise, Lovellon's going ahead of more.
I've got to check.
I don't know what he is of this morning looks like.
I could go check on Fantasy Bros right now on those ranks.
but I would imagine they're,
you think they're close right now in the early ranks?
I do.
Where do you have them right now?
I don't know.
I would think they're close.
I mean,
I'm going to guess we're looking at Loveland late round three,
early around 4 ADP and more probably in the same range and burden.
Lovelland is at 40 overall right now in the half PPR rankings.
And DJ Moore actually, wow, much different 80 right now in the early overall rankings.
That's kind of stunning to me that it's that.
Well, but how much of that was before the trade versus after the trade?
Because you know what I mean?
That's fair.
You know what?
It's probably true.
Probably people haven't updated rankings and things like that.
Yeah, this is the expert consensus,
but that's probably the expert consensus going into free agency and now we're on the tail end of it.
So I'm sure everyone's going to do their clean sweeps.
I imagine that gap gets much closer.
I imagine it's closer to 40 and 50 maybe, maybe 10 to 15 picks apart by the time we get to,
what, like the end of this month.
Yeah.
Big riser for sure.
another big riser would be Ken Walker.
I haven't asked you about Ken Walker.
And what do you think about him?
I guess give me a round in a 12-team league in which you draft Ken Walker.
And give me a round in a 12-team league in which you draft Travis E.T.N.
Also, Joe, I'm sorry.
I forgot to – today's March 16th.
I forgot to sell you yesterday to beware of the aides of March.
But anyway, rounds for Ken Walker and Travis A-chan.
Travis A-chan!
What?
I can't do that.
No, I'm not, I can't do, I said this earlier there on the tailgates, our new show.
We had a big conversation about it.
When you come in the league, you have a chance to reset your name, okay?
A million people interview you, there's all this work done on you.
That's when you can tell people what your name is.
If you want people to call you a certain thing, right?
Unless you're changing your name to meta world piece or something cool like that,
I don't want to hear it.
Like that's your name, bro.
You had your opportunity to change it from college to the pros.
When you become a professional, that's what it is.
And he didn't do it.
So now he's Travis E.
I'm just not going to go into it.
until my producer yells at me that I have to.
I'm just not going to do it.
Ken Walker, for me, I think, you know,
I don't want to completely ignore the years of Ken Walker
not being able to be the only guy in the backfield, right?
Because I think that would be foolish.
I also don't want to ignore what Ken Walker did in the playoffs
when he was called upon to be the Belcal guy
and how well he performed in that Super Bowl.
And not just well in that Super Bowl,
but also against one of the better run defenses in the league,
you know, for about, well,
the first eight weeks of the season, the Patriots didn't give up a 50-yard rusher.
Milton Millings got hurt.
Then eventually you did get that to happen one or two times.
But the Patriots were, number one, against the run for quite some time in the first half of that season.
And they were very good.
Even when Milton Williams came back, right, you had the playoff run they had where they really stymied a lot of the run games in the playoffs, too.
That did not happen with Ken Walker.
Credit to the Seattle offensive line.
They did, you know, kind of wear everybody down there.
I think for me, I think Walker, my guess is he'll probably go too early.
for my taste, but I think if I could get him in the third round, I think I'm comfortable there.
He's going at the 25th player overall right now on the expert consensus.
That feels about right to me, but I can get him in the third.
I'm comfortable with that.
Travis, ATN, on the other hand, I actually really like this landing spot.
Tyler Shuck got better every single week.
And I think it was kind of a quiet thing if you weren't paying attention to it.
And, you know, a lot of casual fantasy players aren't paying attention to maybe the development
of a 26-year-old Saints quarterback, you know, at the end of season, maybe they just
not there, you know, something they're paying attention to. He really did. And I think in a lot of
ways, you could look at him being, I think, a better value at his return on investment. He's going
at 44 in the expert consensus overall. So I could see myself having a lot more Travis Ateen than I would
necessarily Ken Walker shares, just based off of the past catching that he brings to. I like
Kellan Moore as an offensive coach. And I do think that no matter what Alvin Camero might want,
I think this is the Saints way of saying, we appreciate your service. Here's a gold watch.
we want to turn the page and move on.
And I think it's the right business decision,
even though it's going to make Camara unhappy
and maybe some of the fan base unhappy.
It's the right thing to do to move forward as an organization to.
I think ATN at this stage in his career is a better investment than Camara is.
And I like what the Saints did at the end of the year.
And I don't think anyone's talking about it.
Jamie, what's a better value?
Ken Walker, 25th overall, or Travis A. Chan,
which is how he says it should be pronounced.
So I'm going to respect it.
44th overall.
I hope the dolphins and the Saints play each other this year, brother.
I mean, obviously the later you're going to go, the better the value is going to be.
So, you know, for players that, let's assume Camara's gone and they're both the featured guy on their teams,
I probably would lean toward E.T. Chan.
But I think right now I prefer Walker.
I agree with Joe.
I think if he slips anywhere into the middle of the third round, then that's almost a steal.
I have him in that range, you know, 23 to 25.
I don't remember exactly in front me.
But it's just one of those things where, like, you know the Chiefs need to improve their run game.
It's been horrible since Pacheco's injury.
And they finally go out and they get a guy who's coming off this incredible stretch.
You're having, you know, I'm always a big fan of elite people in their jobs having to hit the reset button.
Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes have to hit the reset button after last year's failure.
And there's an unknown because Mahomes coming off a significant injury.
But, you know, the fact that you usually hear, man, ACL tear a month, you know, three weeks, five weeks, whatever.
He's like, I want surgery now.
I don't care what the swelling is.
You're doing this now.
I'm getting back.
Hopefully it's not an issue.
And there's not a setback in his recovery.
But we haven't heard anything yet.
But I just think this chief's offense is going to take.
pick a step forward as a whole.
I don't know if that means the passing game gets better.
That's the one that's a little bit hard to figure right now,
but I do think the run game gets better.
And you think about Andy Reid and his history of running backs,
and we haven't seen it for a while.
But obviously, go back to his Eagles days.
In the Chiefs days, Damien Williams was a monster, you know, for stretches.
Pacheco was a monster for that brief stretch.
And now you get this guy who's still 25, who's coming off this run,
who, when healthy, has been explosive.
and I think because of Mahomes and the injury,
we won't see him run as much.
We might see a little bit more involvement
than the passing game for Walker.
I think that's huge for him.
So I'm excited about both.
If there's any gap closure between the two
in terms of value,
it's definitely going to be Walker.
To Jamie's point, too, Adam,
it's been a long time
since the Chiefs have had a thousand-yard rusher.
Do you know how long, by the way?
We did this on my show the other day.
I tested the boys.
I think so.
I think it was 2017 or 18.
17?
17, Kareem Hunt.
So it's in a long time.
I mean, that's almost, you know, it's 2026 now, kids.
I know we get old fast.
But that's been a long time since the chiefs have been able to really commit to that
run game and get somebody over that thousand-yard threshold, even with the expanded,
you know, season, regular season game now.
Like, it's just crazy to think.
The ones, oh, you want all those Andy Reid running backs.
In the last 10 years, not so much.
Not so much.
But Pacheco, two years ago, 2023, Pacheco was 15th overall, 14th per game.
He played 14 games.
He was on pace for 249 carries, which I hope we get more than that for Walker, and 53 catches and 11 touchdowns.
He averaged 4.6 yards per carry.
And this was why I wanted so much of Pacheco last year because in 2024, when he was coming off this 223 season, he was being drafted in the second round.
His ADP was the second round.
So people bought into Pacheco as the Chief's lead running back.
So I definitely think they'll be able to buy into Ken Walker as the Chief's lead running.
back. I know Pacheco just, I just don't think he was right last year. Whatever the situation was,
he didn't have a run longer. He never run longer than like 16 yards all year. But it hasn't
been that long since we've at least seen a top 14, top 15 running back from the Chiefs.
All right. We've got to take a break. We've got a lot more free agency questions. We'll go
rapid fire when we come back with Joe and Jamie after this.
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And we are back. I'd like to work
with Dave Richard as an actor now after watching that
commercial, I just want to say. I mean,
I think I can get a little bit more real, raw
emotion out of Mr. Nibble's death.
I'd like to go back and revisit that
project.
We have, if you notice here, we have a guy in the chat who are, we have someone in
the chat, ghost of Mr.
Dibbles.
And he said, yeah, Dave was the best.
That's a great commercial.
I miss it.
Yeah, and if you're listening, there's a commercial.
I don't know if you've seen it.
If you have watched any of our YouTube videos, a commercial of Dave a couple years ago,
um, at the vet, putting his hand, saying goodbye to his beloved hamster, Mr.
Is that the better one or is the other one when he's lifting weight?
I think this one's better.
But it's so funny.
Anyway, Mr. Dibbles.
The other one, Joe, is of him bench pressing.
And a guy, he asked for a spot,
and the guy asking for fancy advice to turn his spot
that Dave has his shirt.
I like this.
This is fun.
This is good.
I can help with the bench press, too.
I want to say, what's Richard's Max nowadays?
What's he up to?
I don't know.
110?
What's he?
I love you, Dave.
I love you.
I've been meaning to make this joke about ETN and HN and Joe
and I'm just going to ask, what's in a name?
Right?
What's it a name?
A rose by other name would smell as sweet.
Exactly.
All right.
We're going to do the rest of these free agency questions at ludicrous speed.
We'll get an answer and then a quick analysis from Jamie and Joe.
Wondale Robinson, Mike Evans, Romeo Dobbs.
How do you rank them, Joe?
Wondale Robinson, Mike Evans, Romeo, Dobbs.
I'm going to go Mike Evans, Romeo.
one, but I will say this too, man, that San Francisco situation scares the heck out of me.
Just saying, I'm going to go Romeo Dobbs 2 for now.
I still believe June 1st that AJ Brown will be a New England Patriot because I think it
works for all sides.
And 2027's draft is theoretically much better and how he wants those picks.
And I'll go Wondale third because it's still the Titans.
And even though he might be a great PPR guy, I think I'm going to go Wondale in that third
because I think you have to take the upside of what the quarterback play is in the first two
into account a little bit more when it comes to Wondale as a third.
but all, all, like, fantasy viable.
But I'm where Jamie is, too.
He mentioned before.
Dobbs, I like this signing.
I don't love it.
Like, if that's the only thing they do, is a two, great to an AJ Brown,
but is this the only, like, upgrade in the wide receiver core,
not good enough for me.
Jamie, how do you rank them, Wondale, Evans, Dobbs?
Same way.
Okay.
Evans, Dobbs, Wondale.
And then, Jamie, real quick, I don't want to skip over it.
What do you make of the Calvin Ridley restructuring him back with the Titans?
I mean, look, it makes sense to have another very very.
veteran guy there, you know, with D.K. and Ile Manor, you know, there's potential, but I don't
think either of those guys is necessarily even a two. So can Ridley get back to any semblance of what
he was earlier in his career? We've been chasing this now for a while. This is another
receiving corps. I feel like it's not done. You know, so I hope there's another addition being made.
But, look, Ridley was terrible last year. He was banged up. He's been banged up and terrible since
joining Tennessee.
So part of that has been more quarterback play.
I think, you know, Cam Ward certainly took a step forward to the end of the last season as well.
Another guy similar to Tyler Shuck that nobody really paid attention to.
But Wondale should command targets, especially since Stables now the play call.
All right.
Next up, Michael, Pittman or D.K. Metcalf, Joe.
I don't like agreeing with Adam, but I'm going to agree with Adam on the assessment there that I just don't, I think I
rather have the steady Eddie of Pittman potentially in that offense for what it's going to be
than the up and down D.K. McKaff. I'm not trying to pin everything on DK from last year. I want
to pin most of it on Arthur Smith. How that guy keeps getting jobs, I'll never know, but he does.
He must be the nicest guy on the planet, I guess, to work with. But I'm going to go with
Pittman here on this one, too, in theory, with Aaron Rogers as QB. If he's not, that calculus might
change. Jamie, you're allowed to, you're in this too. I still go to Metcalfe, but they're close.
You know, again, I just think that what Metcalf will do from a touchdown standpoint will help his fantasy production a little bit more than Pittman, maybe from a reception total.
So it's still a discovery phase for this offense because we don't know who the quarterback is.
So we'll see how this all works out.
But again, I don't think there should be so much separation.
And my guess will be ADP will still favor D.K. Metcalf by a significant margin.
Comment from the chat from Aaron Johnson.
Disappointed that Joe didn't do some Shakespearean take on Romeo Dobbs, total missed opportunity.
He's not wrong.
Yeah, I apologize there.
I actually did play Romeo when I had hair back in the day, believe it or not.
But I was at Mercutio the second time around, much better, much more fun role.
You get to fight more, which was really great.
And then you got a great death scene on stage.
Oh, God.
Thanks for spoiling it, bro.
Jeez.
I was going to watch that or read that or something.
You didn't go to high school, Azer?
You just went for that GED?
Is that what happened?
Oh, no, no, no.
Adam was also in theater.
Ah.
I have a theater degree, Joe.
See, that's what happens.
All of the, what you do is you get a theater degree somewhere like Adam and I,
and then you get your own fantasy football podcast someday.
That's the path of success, ladies and gentlemen.
That's how you do it.
Yeah.
We spell it R-E.
That's how you know you're legit.
T-H-E.
Oh, and I do.
And see, the earlier thing, how we opened the show where you didn't know who I was.
Yeah.
Now the fact that you're an R-E theater speller, you've just gone up in my book.
You totally, in the words of dumb and dumber, you've gone and totally redeemed yourself.
But Joe, there's a difference, though.
You were on stage.
Adam was like the third stage hand.
No, I was selling, I sold tickets in the box office, Jamie.
Get it right.
And that's fine.
You got to sell the tickets too.
You know, everyone has their part.
I would call all the world's a stage, Jamie, and all the men and women merely played.
I just saw a great show this weekend.
Oh, yeah.
My nephew was in a great adaptation of the drowsy chaperone.
Oh, very nice.
Very nice.
Excellent.
See, very cultured here.
here on CBS.
Very cultured.
Had you heard of the drowsy chaperone before this?
I have heard of the chaperon.
Oh, Jamie.
My nephew was man in chair.
And did you stay awake the whole time for the drowsy chaperone?
There you go.
That's all it mattered.
All right.
Back to the rankings here.
Isaiah likely.
Travis Kelsey or Dallas Goddard.
How do you rank likely Kelsey Goddard, Joe?
I think that's going to be my order too.
I'm just going to go on a limb there with the likely signing there that I really like
dart, I think that if we're taking somebody with us, that means a lot there for the coach,
right? If you're taking players from your team, you have enough plan for them and how you want
to integrate them into your offense. Travis Kelsey's an older player. We're going to miss time.
I don't care anybody tells me. There's no way Patrick Mahomes is already week one. And if he is,
that that makes me even more concerned. So we're at the end of the Kelsey run here. So I probably
will take my shot on likely in Goddard. As of right now, the way this team is structured to
in the age of Goddard, I'm just kind of, again, like you can always have him. I'm always
feel like he's just one of those free guys.
So I'd rather take the shot on one of the other two.
But I think likely is my one, Kelsey's my two, and Goddard would be my three.
Agreed.
Yeah.
There we go.
Look at us.
Look at us.
Lockstep.
Well, we always are.
This is why I hate drafting against Jamie because we see the players pretty much the same.
It's the worst.
It's the worst.
But it's good because if you draft on CBS, you'll have his rankings right there.
You know, like who he's going to take.
And in every league I'm in with him, I switch to his ranking.
So I know exactly when he's going to take who.
So I know how early I have to take some.
somebody I like. That's the problem.
All right. I'm going to give you guys wide receivers with new quarterbacks or in the case of
Drake London, potentially a new quarterback. Like I said, they're not going to just give the job
to Tua. He's going to compete. But just tell me, you know, do you like the situation? Is it an
upgrade? And I think I'm not even going to say that I was going to say the Minnesota wide receivers,
but it's obviously an upgrade over McCarthy. Will it be an upgrade over the five games from Wence?
I don't know. But how about Joe?
Jalen Waddle.
Let me just give you a quick stat on Jalen Waddle.
If I have like six documents open here and I can't find the wide receiver one.
All right, Jalen Waddle.
So let's just take a look at what he did without Tyreek Hill last year.
So that was weeks five through 15.
He got hurt in week 16, played 25% of the snaps.
Those were all with Tua.
He barely played with Quinn Ewers.
But in that stretch, Jalen Waddle, in half PPR,
was wide receiver 19 per game.
In full PPR, he was wide receiver 20 per game.
He was on pace for 71 catches, 1110 yards, seven touchdowns,
on only 114 targets, but they only average 27 pass attempts per game
from weeks 5 through 15 after the Tyree kill injury.
So let's just say Jalen Wadle was wide receiver 20 per game,
over under, Joe, 20 per game for Jalen Waddle.
Well, right now there's nobody else, so I'd say over slightly, potentially, because it's just the amount of sheer volume that they'll need.
I also don't think the defense is great, and they're playing in a tough division, so I can't imagine game script always going their way most weeks.
You're going to have to be fighting, I think, tooth and nail.
So I'll say over, but in terms of the ranking of the three you've got there, is that what you want me to go through?
No, no, I'll go one by one, because I know London is.
Okay, one by one.
It's about health for Waddle, I mean, right now at this point.
and I want to see what they do in the draft also too
because I think this is,
it's clear that Miami is stripping everything away,
which is probably a good idea.
It's probably what they need to do.
But I don't know if they've built up enough to
or I'm just super excited.
Jamie mentioned earlier,
Malik Willis, yeah,
rushing equity is going to be there.
But I have massive concerns about this wide receiver group,
especially because the main guy right now is Waddle
and Waddle health-wise has not been a guy
you can really count on the last couple years.
Jamie,
um,
over under wide receiver 20 for Waddle.
It's a slight over, 18, 19.
I think that's kind of where he is.
It'll be one of those guys that you'll, I don't want to say reluctantly start each week
because you won't get a lot of huge games, but you'll get a lot of consistent production.
You know, so those weeks where he gives you those seven, eight touchdowns, you'll be thrilled.
We're probably talking about maxing out around 70, 80 receiving yards per game.
I don't think the target volume will be there enough.
You'll be like, oh, this is a league winning type of player for me.
And again, Malik Willis, as Joe alluded to, you know, still has to prove himself as a pastor.
good couple games with Romeo Dobbs, so that's
encouraging. I do think
though, if you look at it, yes,
they still probably address the position
in the draft, but it's
Waddle, it's Malik Washington,
it's Jahan Dodson and Tutu Atwell.
That's the group right now, and it's pretty
bad. So if this is what they're doing,
the targets will definitely go to Waddle's direction, just a matter of how much
they'll throw the ball. So I do think you
are getting a good player. I just don't know if you're
getting a great player.
Okay, how about Drake London?
he's been great with penics.
He's been bad with cousins over the last two years.
He had a stretch.
Drake London had a straight.
Got off to a slow start, weeks one through three.
The next six games before his knee injury,
he was averaging more than 24 fantasy points per game.
He was the number one wide receiver from weeks four through 11.
Then he got hurt and was terrible in the last three games coming back from the knee injury.
If you just look at weeks one through 11, including that slow start,
number three wide receiver per game behind,
I don't remember the order in those weeks.
It was JSN or Puka or Puka and JSN.
So that was Drake London with Michael Pennix last year.
Let's say it's Tua.
Top 12 wide receiver?
No, I think everyone's going to draft him top 12.
Top eight wide receiver, you think, Drake London, Joe?
Oh, definitely.
He's ranked six right now, and I think that's just about right
because of that unknown circumstance, like is it Tua,
because we don't know what that is, what it looks like potentially.
I think it might be Tua, to be honest with you.
I think, you know, Stefanski, when a new coach,
comes in, they tend to want to bring in whatever they want to do. And I'm sure he went in there
thinking, all right, I've got something here with Pennix. I'm sure I can work with it.
But obviously, they wanted to get some other pieces there potentially to see if maybe there was
a backup plan or a plan B, and two is that plan B. Two and not only was that good, I mean,
excuse me, Drake Lennon was not only that as good as you said there was first half of the season.
But think about this, too, when he came out of the buy, he was wide receiver one two weeks
in a row at Indianapolis and I think it was at New England as well, right? So two road games,
he was out there crushing life as wide receiver one.
the game log. I love Drake Lunding this year, too, whether it's Pennings, whether it's Tua.
I think maybe if he takes a little bit of a stock down because of the question mark about Tua,
it's even a better situation to buy him. It's unfortunate we got the injury last year where he missed
a chunk of time. But I definitely think it's top five-ish material even for him right now.
I know he's six overall. So definitely top eight, maybe even top five as well. That could be in his
range of outcomes. I agree. I think, you know, we're looking at the version of Tua we saw,
2025 and he was bad.
This is also the same guy.
I know totally different wide receivers.
He's got consecutive seasons
that of Tyree Kill of 1,700 receiving yards
and 7 plus touchdowns.
You know, so he's got the ability
to support a high-end wide receiver.
And I think the way that he plays
with a receiver like Drake London
who's going to win contested catches
and going to win in using his physicality
and win in hopefully anticipation,
you know, that's what Tua kind of thrives on.
So if Stifansky's all,
offense is what it has been.
He's been able to support multiple pass catchers,
tight end and usually somebody else.
You know, we saw it at the 2024 season with Jerry Judy, remember,
with James Winston, for example.
So London is probably, without checking this,
the best receiver that's DeFansky's ever coached.
And so now you have this quarterback who, if he's healthy and right,
can I think help London still succeed and succeed at a high level.
So my guess is,
This Tua starts.
You give Pennix an opportunity to sort of work his way back from the injury.
And there's a chance here for Tua to help still support, you know, London.
For me, it's the top five wide receivers.
Fifth in my rank.
Yeah, I tweeted that from 2022 to 2024, the top three quarterbacks in passing yards per game
were Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, and Tua, Tua, Tua, oh, well, you got a trade here.
Chats just broke some news, by the way, if you guys have seen.
I was just verifying it.
Just to see.
Justin feels to the Chiefs.
Okay.
Yeah.
You have to say pending physicals now, though, don't you?
I feel like, Adam?
Like, now and after the Max Crosby thing, I think we have to go back to that.
Pending physicals, everybody.
Pending fan reaction.
Pending fan reaction and whether or not there's somebody better out there than we like more at the last minute.
Anyway, yeah, two has been really good.
But I think what's so interesting from kind of a nerdier.
perspective on this is that Drake London is so different than Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle.
And when you look at Tyreek Hill and Waddle, like the four years of Hill Waddle, Tua,
the first two years were great for both of them. The last two years were not. And if you look at
the yak specifically, and you think about the Dolphins offense, right? It's a throw,
it's like a timing throw over the middle. And then.
Yep. Right? And then you've got Waddle and Hill who have great speed,
running after the catch.
You also had a lot of deep ball success.
Those two things are not really Drake London specialty.
He's not a burner.
He's six foot four, right?
He's not the fastest guy.
He's a great contested catch guy,
more of a possession receiver.
He's pretty borderline bad with yak.
It's just not his game.
Like, what does that mean if it's Tua?
That doesn't really fit what Tua did with the dolphins.
I wonder if,
I know, like, we're kind of,
over Penix, maybe, like, just from a football perspective, even though it's probably a little
unfair. He's had some really good moments in his young career. But I think I'd actually rather
prefer Penix with Drake London. I just, I know that Penix, assuming he comes back, he's pretty
healthy, like, he will find Drake London. He will target the hell out of Drake London, and it's
been a really successful connection. So I'll just, you just give me a one word answer. Which
quarterback would you rather have for Drake London? Penix or Tua?
Penix.
Jamie?
Tua.
Okay.
interesting.
All right.
Garrett Wilson with Gino Smith.
This one I think is debatable.
Garrett Wilson or Jalen Waddle.
Who do you like better, Joe?
As a player?
No, as a fantasy.
I think both of those are debatable, actually.
But, you know, but I mean, it's just,
this is really tough because, I mean,
we're Geno Smith 2.0 in New York.
I mean, Jet fans, you're allowed to just walk away.
Like, they always tell you, especially now on every reel you watch, you know, toxicity, abusive relationships.
Like, you don't have to do this to yourself anymore.
You can walk away from the jet.
It's okay.
You can find love with another organization.
You deserve better in life than to spend it rooting for this team.
And this is coming from a guy from New York who is not a Jets fan telling you the grass is definitely greener, okay?
I'm lucky I made good decisions as a youth.
And I know some of you have had this forced upon you.
This is abuse.
get out of it.
The problem is I like Garrett Wilson more.
The problem is I think Jay LaWanel will be better,
so I'll probably put my stock in Waddle.
But I'll tell you what,
the early rankings suggest Garrett Wilson
at wide receiver 16 and Waddle at Wide Receiver 24.
And that makes my head hurt,
like to tell you the truth.
Like, just crazy.
Jane, we're doing a draft tomorrow, right?
I assume?
Yeah.
Okay.
Make it in the afternoon, if you wouldn't mind.
I wonder who's going to go first.
But who would you take first,
Waddle or Wilson?
or sorry, yeah, no, that was it, Waddle or Wilson.
I'd still take Wilson first, but they're close.
You know, as Joe said, you know, wide receiver 16.
Like I said, Waddle's probably 18 or 19, so I don't have them, you know, that far apart.
I just think you're looking at what Wilson was able to accomplish at the start of last season before the injury with Justin Fields.
While Gino is who he is, I think he's a better passer than Justin Fields at this point still.
So I'm hoping, you know, similar situation for both these guys are going to get fed targets.
I just lean toward the town.
I think Wilson's a better town.
So let me ask you a fan etiquette question here, Joe.
You're a jet.
Let's say, you know, someone's a Jets fan, and you just, you just inspired them to break up with the Jets.
I hope so.
They didn't pick a new team or anything.
They're just not going to get into the Jets.
You know, they're just, whatever.
They'll put the game on, but they just don't care.
Not wearing the jersey on Sunday.
Certainly not going to a game.
four years from now they win the Super Bowl.
How much of that Super Bowl can that fan claim?
Like, yeah, we won.
You're allowed to say that?
No, but you don't have to worry about it
because four years from now,
they're not winning a Super Bowl.
Four years from now, they might not make a playoff game, okay?
You don't have to worry about these things.
That's the best part is like, once you walk away,
I mean, could you imagine saying that 10 years ago?
Like, hey, it's okay, you could have walked away.
There'd be no regrets, right?
Imagine what a glorious decade of life that would have been a joy.
And when you find your new team, let me just tell you, look for good ownership, look for good coaching and structure, look for good historical relevance in the NFL.
These are the pathways to take you.
And I know, the NFL's very divisive, you know, like, you don't like this fan base, you don't like that fan base.
But you know what?
Again, everyone deserves to be happy in life.
And I think if you've given 20 plus, 30 plus, 40 plus years to this marriage as a fan, I think it's time for a happy divorce and you move to some 55 and over community with a team that makes a year.
you happy.
Okay?
I gotta say.
See, Adam's in this point in his life right now, though.
No, listen.
Well, maybe I can bring him back.
The Jets, I think now would be, if you were never a Jets fan, now would be a good time to
buy in.
Obviously, they're going to be terrible.
Why?
Because Aaron Glenn's not going to get fired next year?
He is, of course, going to get fired.
They're going to be terrible.
They've got picks 2, 16, 33, so they almost have three first round picks this year, and they
have 44.
They have four of the first 44 picks.
next year they have three first round picks in a loaded draft.
They have their own.
They're going to be horrible.
They might be the worst team of football.
They have the Colts who could be a top 15 pick.
They have the Cowboys.
That could be a top 15 pick.
Maybe those picks are 25th or later.
But they actually have an amazing opportunity to reset their franchise with their next two draft classes.
You're adorable.
This is adorable.
You're assuming that the Jets can make good decisions.
This is the same team that took Ken O'Brien over Dan Marines.
You know, this is the same team that it took Browning Nagel.
This is the same team that, you know,
continued to make pick after pick and bad decision after bad decision
with all these top picks that they've had all these years because they've been so bad.
They don't know what to do with these picks.
It's like, it's like in Tommy Boy when he's holding the dinner roll at the restaurant.
And he's like, and I don't know what to do with that.
I love it.
My pet, my pet, like, I don't know what to do it.
And I just smash it all the pieces.
The more picks might be worse for the Jets.
They should just trade them all for players that actually play.
football well because their decision-making process
an organization certainly has not been great
I think in the last though I don't know my lifetime my lifetime I'm gonna go with that
Adam oh you've seen them go to a few AFC championship games I mean the Rex Ryan
era they did they did they had a two glorious year run there and I also remember a
butt fumble shortly thereafter and it all crumbling apart so yep uh they
someone we were talking about this I don't remember who I was talking about Warren
Sapp with oh I remember and he was his kids in college he's a Jets fan he said his
dad had a Warren sap
His dad always talks about Kyle Brady over Warren Sapp.
That is like, oh, I mean, Johnny Mitchell.
I mean, come on, the Kyle Brady one's a good one too.
Warren Zapp went 12th.
How did Warren Sapp go 12?
Because there were questions about him as a human being.
Wow, man, man.
He was a highest trope trophy fan.
And some of his antics.
But you was a dangerous place, Adam.
You know, ask Jamie.
He knows.
He was crazy down there back in his youth.
He's hanging out with all those guys.
They were on the yachts together.
He knows.
He was real all that.
hard.
Oh, no, no, the yachts.
That was long after day.
I don't think Warren's Sapp was in the yacht era.
Warren Sapp was a little bit.
Well, the yachts were after that.
All right, anyway, Joe, tell us where we can find your content.
Well, first of all, it's great to be here.
I love you guys.
And it's always fun hanging out with you all.
You'll find us over fantasy pros, obviously.
We're doing NFL stuff all the time still.
We've got our NFL mock draft shows.
And we've got a new channel, too.
It's just an NFL talk called The Tailgate on YouTube right now.
if you like just football and fun and that's what we're doing it's like you know kind of like
we're just sitting around having that last conversation it's like a whole show of that basically
where we're talking about the news of the day what's going on you know we might talk a little fancy
we might talk a little wagering but really it's just NFL talk just general stuff there and we've had
Trevor Sycambeau from PFF on we had Laquan jones from NFL come on the last two shows to open it up so it's on
YouTube right now it's called tailgate NFL it's out there right now so go subscribe it's a brand new
channel so we're trying to support that because this year we got a lot of big
plans for it, a lot of fun stuff in season two.
It's gonna be wild and fun and a good time.
So go check that out, please.
And again, good to see you guys.
And Adam, I appreciate you as a theater, camaraderie person too.
I feel closer to you after the show too,
knowing this about you.
And Jamie, I always feel close to you
because we live that travel ball lifestyle.
That's right.
That's a different lifestyle.
Yeah, just letting you know,
and there will be no follow up to this,
but I absolutely hate theater.
So anyway, another question for you.
if Italy wins tonight, who are you going to root for in the finals?
USA or Italy?
I'm sorry, Italy captured my heart.
It's the greatest, it's the greatest bench celebration ever.
You put that Armani blazer on and you take that espresso shot.
They hit you right in the feelings.
It's a whole different thing.
It's just, I like the underdog, too.
It's always one of those fun things.
And I look at these guys and this team that just shouldn't be there.
And they keep beating these really good teams.
They beat Japan.
For God's sakes, I mean, come on.
You know, they beat the U.S.
I know maybe the U.S. wasn't like, didn't know what day it was or whatever the hell is going on or what the situation was.
I don't care.
You know what?
I say this to all the teams I coach.
You can only beat whoever they, you only play who they put in front of you.
And that's it.
And you go and you give everything you've got there.
It's just fun.
And the WBC baseball, the World Series was great this year.
WBC baseball has been electric.
All these games.
The tone, the way the players are excited for them, the crowds.
It's been fantastic.
I want to see WBC.
If there's a lockout next year, I want to see WBC on TV all summer.
Best 4 of 7 series between all of two countries.
Play a big giant tournament.
It'll be fantastic.
I'll get huge ratings.
I don't know if they'd be allowed to do it.
I would watch every single game.
It's been so much fun, man.
Even if you're like baseball, whatever, if you don't like WBC, I feel like you're dead inside.
I love it.
I mean, I was more excited for yesterday's game than I think I would,
than I was for the World Series a few years ago.
Maybe not, because for the Yankees world, it's Dodgers.
Because when, I think it was when Bedner was pitching in the seventh, I want to say,
and they had second and third and one out or something.
I'm thinking, like, man, if they lose, I won't really care.
So maybe this isn't quite Yankees level for me, but it was close.
And I got to say, I feel kind of gross about how they won.
It's not their fault, obviously, but it sucks.
Oh, that's two calls.
Yeah, it really sucks.
I mean, those were bad calls.
The Soto one was really close.
The strikeout in the ninth inning was not as close.
It's a shame that it came down to that.
Speaking of that World Series,
you've got to be a little watching Aaron Judge play defense.
Oh, my gosh, what a throw.
That's got a piss of people.
And the catch?
Yeah.
Which catch?
He had the diving catch running in.
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't see that.
I must have a miss play out there, too, though.
He took a bad route to a ball.
But, you know.
He's a very good feeler.
He has 50 home runs.
Good right field.
I think last time, I feel like last time I had, we had you on,
no, last time we had you on this time of year, right before baseball season,
Soto had just gone to the Mets.
Soto was about to start with the Mets and I asked you Soto versus Judge.
What a ridiculous question.
So obviously.
I don't know, man.
Soto stole like, you know, almost 40 bags last year.
I mean, Soto's like the third or fourth player going off the board.
Judge is the second.
I mean, like, how far part of it?
are they?
Quite far.
Well, just in terms of their real baseball value, quite far.
All right.
Anyway, that's, you can see how much I know about fantasy baseball.
Thank you very much, Joe.
Thank you very much, Jamie.
There's a guy I share a fantasy baseball team with.
Love it.
We're terrible.
We think every year.
We'll talk to you on Wednesday on Fantasy Football Team.
