Fantasy Football Today - This is Who You HAVE to Get | Dynasty Buys for Contenders and Rebuilders with Ryan McDowell (07/02 Dynasty Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: July 3, 2024

Heath Cummings is joined by Ryan McDowell to talk buying for both contenders and rebuilders. Then, they answer your trade questions. Intro (0:00) How Big a Deal is Kick Return Scoring? (3:35) What are your favorite scoring settings for a Dynasty league? (8:55) The Best Times of the Year for Making Trades (11:45) Favorite Buys for Contenders (13:56) Favorite Buys for Rebuilders (38:15) Listener Trade Questions (46:28) Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Ryan, thank you for being here. Tell everybody what you've been working on, where they can find your work. Yeah, thanks for having me, Heath. Always good to chat with you, especially when we're talking dynasty fantasy football. You can find my work at dynasty league football.com. Find me on Twitter, as you said, at Ryan and C 23. And all that is good stuff.

But lately it has been all Scott fishbowl SFB 14. And it's been great. It has been such Scott Fishbowl SFB 14. And it's been great. It has been such a great, I guess we can say pre-draft experience over the past few weeks and months. We've got a few drafts in the books and of course, most of those kick off in less than a week now.

So we're super excited. Yeah, I mentioned on the show, I was at the Fort Lauderdale live draft on, I guess it was Saturday or Sunday, Saturday this past weekend. I'm going to be at the Kansas city live draft next Sunday. I thought I had a busy schedule with live drafts, but where tell everybody like where in the world is Ryan McDowell going to be? Yeah.

I can't quite match Scott's travel log, but I'm trying. So I was in Cleveland last week, drove up there along with our buddy John Bosch. I'll do Cincinnati this coming weekend, which is not quite as far. That's good news for me. Nashville the next weekend, and then Boston to kind of put a bow on the SFB drafting season. It's a fantastic thing. I would encourage everybody, as I always do, find some way.

And obviously the way that everybody wants to think of right now is the Scott Fish Bowl, and hopefully everybody can get into that that's listening, but like find some way to get involved with fantasy cares even if it's outside of that scott fishbowl joe says i hope you enjoyed our beautiful and hot state of tennessee i was also in tennessee last week and joe i did enjoy the state it was hot a couple of days but when you come from south florida like it's not that hot it was perfectly fine. And there's lots, the main difference between Tennessee and Florida is there's lots of big

trees. So plenty, plenty of shade, not hard to find shade. I was about an hour East of Nashville. So yeah, good, good, good times. Refreshed back from vacation. I had a Tennessee trip. Sorry. Sorry to talk. I had a Tennessee trip. Sorry, sorry, Heath. I had a Tennessee trip recently as well.

So yeah, Tennessee's great. It's a good, it's not, it's a little bit further for me than it is for you, but it is fantastic. On today's show, we are going to talk dynasty buys, both for contenders and for rebuildersers we're going to try to answer some of your trade questions at the end of the show so if you've got some of those we're going to use something over at dynasty league football they've got a trade finder where you can just plug in somebody's name and it will tell you recent dynasty trades that have actually happened with that player it's one of my favorite tools to use on the site and so i'm going to give some of my buys

i've ryan has a couple as well and then he'll tell us you know who have these guys been traded for recently but first as we always do we'll start with three questions for our guest and i want to start with scott fishbowl because there is some unique scoring in that tournament as always and this year one of the things and scott put out the question like what how should the rules be different this year my first response was well we've got to factor in some return yardage because we've got new kick return rules this year apparently we've got all kinds of new players that are going to be returning kicks supposed to be much more exciting and so he

did that and i think like even some leagues are considering doing that as well it's harder in dynasty because you've already got your roster but for redraft some people are adding kick return scoring i wonder do you think when people what you've heard people talking about the kick return scoring, are people making too big of a deal of it or not enough? Well, you know, I have to say, Heath, before we get to the return yardage and that scoring, you mentioned getting involved with Fantasy Cares. I should have thrown this in earlier, but the easiest way to do that right now is to join the SFB satellite. It's, it's on underdog. It's $5. That is it. Every bit of that money raised goes to fantasy cares and goes to charity. Uh, we're about 30% full. It's been open a little over a week now. And we would, uh, obviously love to fill that thing up and raise as much money as we can.

So plenty of spots. Yes. Go to Underdog if you're in a legal state and find that SFB satellite. Now, these kick returners, you know, I mean, we're all in these chats. I assume you probably are. Maybe you're in a pick chat or you're in a, you know, a chat for your actual league or what have you. And I've seen a lot of talk about the kick returners.

You know, Rashid Shahid has been discussed maybe more than he has up until this point in his career. My buddy, John Byrne, I believe it's Byron Chinko on Twitter. He did something pretty cool. I don't know if you saw this. He took Mike Clay, of course, Mike Clay from ESPN. Mike Clay does his projections every year.

John took those projections, applied SFB 14 scoring, just to give us a sneak peek, if Mike is totally correct, what these fantasy points might look like this year christian mcafree was the number one overall scorer based on mike's projections and sfb scoring marvin mems was the number two overall scorer marvin mems wide receiver one and number two overall uh rashid shaheed was the wide receiver four based on those projections so yeah it's been discussed a lot but probably not enough uh because guys like marvin mems and rashid shaheed who are are you know adequate fine players uh probably would be

drafted in the later rounds on their wide receiver talent alone. Right. But now these are guys you've got to look at a lot earlier than you might have expected. So I'm going to try to remember. I think in the live draft I watched. I didn't actually draft this past weekend. I was just there observing and helping people put stickers on. But from what I recall, Shahid went somewhere between round six and round eight in those drafts.

So definitely earlier than he would in a normal super flex tight end premium draft, but nowhere close to as high as where Mike Clay or anyone else who projects kick return yardage would have him projected. Now, I think that the thing that's really complicated, and it'll be more complicated this year, is that we don't have a lot of stability year over year

or even within seasons of guys remaining in those roles. The joke I made when I saw the scoring was, well, after week one, by far the biggest waiver wire claims are going to go to guys who were surprises in the fact that they were returning kicks. And that might be a mistake because I don't know if they're still going to be returning kicks in week four or week five. Those things are kind of a little bit more fluid, it seems like, than say your normal wide receiver one role. Yeah, I totally agree. That makes it a challenge. And, you know, unlike a quarterback battle or, you know, which wide receivers lining up in the slot, these are not, these kick return punt return rolls are not always information that

that is out there, right? It's not necessarily widespread. You've got to dig a little deeper. And even when you do, you know, when you do find that info or find that little morsel of information, as you said, a month into the season or maybe less things are changing. So certainly some fluidity there. I do think that's what might push guys like Mims or Shahid up the board a little bit. Even if they lost that role, maybe they still have some value as a depth receiver or the last guy in your lineup or something like that. Absolutely. So question number two, and generally when I have people on for the first time, and this is not your first time, I ask them, what's the one rule that's non-negotiable? We're going to do away with the rule.

We're not going to talk about super flex, as everyone does. But what are your favorite scoring settings for a dynasty league? And I'm sure you're like me. You're in leagues that have lots of different scoring settings. And if you're going to add a new league, you'd rather it be different than be the same thing you already have 10 of. But if you just played in one, what are your favorite scoring settings? Yeah, you know, I usually leave the scoring, the wacky scoring to Scott.

He does. He does a great job with that. I'm pretty boring when it comes to scoring. And I know a lot of years he tries to balance the positions in SFB, especially because it is super flex, doesn't want those quarterbacks totally dominating the early rounds of drafts. And I like that as well, as far as trying to find that balance. So usually that means inflating the value of tight ends. And obviously we're talking tight end premium. There's different ways to do that. At this point, if you're talking like a 1.5 PPR, that's not even much of a premium at this point though. I think that's at least in the leagues that we're in and these leagues that maybe you're joining on Twitter or something like that, that's almost assumed that you're going to see 1.5 PPR for tight ends.

So, you know, the real upgrade there comes in two PPR or the requirement to start two tight ends, which gets really, really tough. Obviously not a scoring setting, but still a change in the value of those players. Do you have a preference between half and full PPR? I'm, I'm a full PPR guy. Honestly, I, I want, I want to, you know, I want the biggest scores we can get, however that, you know, I like, I like six points for passing touchdowns and I like, I like full PPR. You know, that's probably dating me a little bit based on kind of some of the newer trends, but hey.

At CBS, we have always been and probably will always be six points per pass touchdown, and I certainly like it better that way as well. We're going to talk about dynasty buys today, and I do think this time of year is the time of year where we see, even amongst dynasty managers, probably a third of your league, maybe half of your league is kind of coming out of their hibernation. They're really starting to pay a little bit more attention. We see the podcast numbers. If you watch those, there's a lot more people that are watching and listening now than were before, like back in February or May or something like that. So is this a good time of year to make

trades or are there certain times of the year that you think are better for making trades? I think it really depends on the players or picks involved in the trade, right? Like, and obviously it depends if you're buying or selling. I always think this is the time to buy those, those veteran players, right? We, we're not looking at weekly scores and instead we're looking at ADPs and trade values as we're going to do today. And, and we want that stacked roster. We want all those young, pretty upside players. And some of the veterans, again, that we're going to talk about today, lose a little bit of value this time of year. So if you're a contender, you're trying to buy veterans, I think now's a great time to make

those trades. If you're talking draft picks, I think you have to wait until, again, if you're buying draft picks, wait until the season, especially as close as you can get if you have to wait until again, if you're buying, buying draft picks, wait until the season, especially like leading as close as you can get. If you have a trade deadline or close to the start of your fantasy playoffs, of course, those draft picks become become less valuable as teams are trying to make that playoff push. They want that player that's going to put them over the top and hopefully get them a title. So, you know, I guess it depends on the types of trades you're making. It's, it's always a good time to make a dynasty trade though. That's exactly right.

Unless maybe you're trying to sell veterans and it's may, and then you might want to hold a little bit longer and wait until somebody wants to pay for them. Let's take a short break. When we come back, we'll get some of my favorite Dynasty buys for contenders. I am so dreading groceries this week. Why? You can skip it. Oh, what?

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like be a league winner this year. Two, I think they're undervalued by the community or the person that has them. Or three, I think their value is going to increase in the next six months. My first Dynasty buy, even though he's currently QB2 by most rankings, I think is still true of all three of those. Patrick Mahomes is my number one quarterback in Dynasty, my number one quarterback in Redraft.

He finished last year as barely a top 10 quarterback with one of the worst receiving core he's ever had. They go add Hollywood Brown. They add Xavier Worthy. I certainly think if he's as good as I think he's going to be the first half of this season, his value is going to increase and he'll return to QB one and basically all formats. What type of trades have we seen for Patrick Mahomes recently? And do you agree that he's a good buy right now? I mean, honestly, guys like Mahomes are almost always a good buy, right?

I mean, as you said, can certainly be a league winner in any season. And, you know, number one in redraft, number one in dynasty, and number one in your heart, Heath. So I'm not surprised we're talking about my homes first as i looked at the trade finder on dlf i did notice lots of lots of package deals so we're talking about um like four for four type uh oh wow okay homes was involved with i i tried to stay away from those i don you know, it's tough to really analyze those. There's obviously lots of pieces, but I found a couple of interesting deals. And these were, these come from super flex dynasty leagues where obviously quarterbacks carry more value.

That's what we care about when we're talking quarterbacks. First one, my homes for Trevor Lawrence, Josh Jacobs, and a 2025 first rounder. So obviously looking at that trade on face value, we don't know where that first rounder is going to be. Maybe if it projects to be an early pick, that changes things. But that's also a little dangerous to do in most leagues this far out before things kick off. So Lawrence, Jacobs, and a future first rounder

for my homes. Yeah. I like that deal quite a bit for the guy that's getting Patrick Mahomes. I mean, Trevor, you look at that deal two years ago and there's no way anyone's making it because Trevor Lawrence was a consensus top eight dynasty quarterback, but he's fallen outside of the top 12 pretty much everywhere. So it's a consensus qb2 in super flex probably a late first but let's just consider a random first and then josh jacobs who knows what his value is a year from now so yeah that's the type of deal that i would i would feel very comfortable kind of it's a little bit of roster consolidation asset consolidation there into the player that you think may be the most valuable player in that format this season. And honestly, I talked about

that future first rounder, even if that is, let's say a top two, a top three pick. I think I still want them a home side there. So yeah, I like that one. I've got one more for my homes. This one, you know, I think is, is even worse. Honestly, you're getting the 1.04 as the prize. So, you know, probably that looks like Malik neighbors in most rookie drafts. Somebody traded my homes for the one Oh four straight up. Oh, there's a little bit more, but not enough. So you get the 1.04, you get a future first and a future second. And then Traylon Burks, that must have been just to clear up that roster spot.

We know, unfortunately, he's not carrying much value. So essentially two first, or we could even say neighbors, a first and a second. And I love neighbors. I'm excited about him as a prospect, but that's just not enough. There's no way that's enough for me in a super flexing. I wonder just kind of ending the conversation in the one quarterback idea, because this is something that we did a one QB mock, I think a week ago, two weeks ago.

And you really like people mostly treated the quarterbacks. Like I see them treat them in redraft to where, I mean, it was mostly analysts. And so they were falling into round four, round five for, for pretty elite guys. I think that's a mistake.

Like, I think, especially with my homes, it's, it's an interesting conversation with Jalen hurts and Lamar Jackson. We don't know what their longevity looks like, but if I'm in a dynasty startup draft and I can lock in 10 years of Patrick Mahomes or maybe CJ Stroud, I think their value should be pretty significantly different than what it is in redraft just because of how much longer their career arcs

are and generally how much more predictable their year-to-year production is. I agree. We're seeing Mahomes, Hertz, Josh Allen, and Stroud is really in that group as well now. Fall into the third, fourth, fifth round of our single quarterback startup ADP. Those guys feel like more, you know, more like late second rounders to me in that format. You know, maybe early third round just because there are, you know, there are three three or four of them and some people would put Lamar in that group as well. So, uh, you know, maybe if your tier is bigger, you feel like you could wait. Um, but yeah, I do think in general, those elite quarterbacks are undervalued in single quarterback leagues. Now we were talking about elite quarterbacks and young quarterbacks, and we're going to

drastically shift gears, even though we stay at the quarterback position. Aaron Rodgers, I was looking at some consensus rankings. He was around QB 30, which seems pretty low to me. I know he's 40 years old. I know he's coming off of the Achilles. He's not completed a pass in the NFL since January of 2023 or something. Maybe it was even longer than that, but that sounds right.

I think for a true contender in a super flex league, like if this is one of those quarterbacks, it's a starter that you might be able to acquire for less than a first round pick. I'm very happy to do it. Yeah, and you can based on the trades that I found. And again, I'm with you on Rodgers. I think what we saw is as soon as the Super Bowl was over,

maybe in some cases as soon as the regular season was over, we kind of forgot about the injury. The value got reset on Aaron Rodgers. He began to kind of regain some trade value, climb back up our ADP over at DLF. And then he, you know, this mysterious missing training camp. And now we find out he was on this trip. You know, it's like, yeah, of course, obviously. So it's almost like it all came crashing down again. And instead of best case scenario, we started seeing the worst.

We as a dynasty community started seeing the worst with Rodgers and doubts about, you know, is he healthy? Is he ready? Is he going to be able to start the season? Is he even committed to this team? Those are things that are out there and the value starts to drop again. So I think that's reflected in these trades I have. Aaron Rodgers in the 3.03, which is a pretty nice pick, in my opinion, this year.

You're getting a decent player. Rodgers in a 3.03 for Matt Stafford. So essentially, the idea that Stafford is, is worth more than Rogers, which I would probably be on board with. And that one I think is, is pretty square. Right. No, that, that, that sounds about right. Just looking at the difference in those two. I don't think when you look at a lot of rankings lists, they are that close. Right. Aaron Rogers, this is a one for oneone trade which are always fun to kind of pick through yes Aaron Rodgers for Ricky Pearsall 49ers rookie receiver I mean this feels like the you know it

feels like the perfect contender rebuilder trade right I mean I'm ready to win now, but I need that quarterback. I just took Pearsall in the, probably the early second round, maybe late first round of, of that super flex rookie draft. And, and the, the guy who has Rogers just wants to lose this year. That's kind of what I would expect this trade to be. I think if I'm selling Rogers, we talked about it earlier. If you've got those veterans, you want to sell, just be patient. Just wait a little bit. I think if I'm selling Rogers, we talked about it earlier. If you've got those veterans, you want to sell, just be patient. Just wait a little bit. I think if you wait until October, you're probably getting more than Ricky Pearsall.

Well, I think that's a great point when it's talking about like buying this time of year is if Aaron Rogers comes out and is a top 15 quarterback, the first month of the season, we're going to see a drastic increase in his value in terms of the four or five teams that are true contenders at that point. I don't view Ricky Pearsall as a first round pick. And so that kind of fits with my idea that if I can get Rodgers for less than a first, I feel really good about it. I think if you get to October and Rogers is sitting there at QB 15 in the rankings,

he's probably going to cost you a first round pick in 2025. Would you say that? You think that's probably right? Yep. Absolutely. Two more trades that again, show that you can get Rogers for less than a first Rogers for Jerome Ford and the 2.07 and Rogers for Jacoby Brissett and a future second rounder. Jacoby Brissett and a future second rounder. I like that trade a 2.07 and Rogers for Jacoby Brissett and a future second rounder.

Jacoby Brissett and a future second rounder. I like that trade a lot. You guys are doing a good job of acquiring Aaron Rogers. I've got one more veteran. I'm going to combine a guy that I had actually put in the rebuilder section. Originally, he didn't make the cut for this show but I just want to talk about both Russell Wilson and Justin Fields um because I think my general feeling is that I I like buying Wilson for a contender because he's dirt cheap right now and my expectation is that he's going

to start the season as a starter and probably keep that job. But Fields in a one quarterback league, I think he's difficult to buy in a super flex league because everybody recognizes the upside. But there's in a super flex league, like it's hard to carry that third quarterback that you don't know if he's actually going to get a chance to play. In a one quarterback league, though, he should be almost free and he has immense upside if he gets a chance at the job. Yeah, I'm with you on fields for sure. I like him as a buy and I agree. It's not easy to buy him in super flex leagues. You would think it would be, obviously he's lost a ton of value, but those who have held him, those who have seen him score as a top 10, top 12 quarterback over the past couple of years in so many weeks. They're not ready just to give that up for a second rounder in most cases,

or maybe even less than that. As far as Wilson, honestly, the prices look about the same as we talked about for Aaron Rodgers. Oh, really? Russell Wilson for the 208, Russell Wilson and a late third for the 205, Oh, really? be not that I disagree with Wilson as a target. He's just not quite as cheap as I thought he might be. No, that, and that's kind of like that. That's the purpose of doing the exercise that we're doing right now. I do agree with you. If, if the price is the same, I would rather be by Rogers. I'm about five spots higher than consensus on both of these guys in the rankings. If I have to spend,

uh, the one 12 to rogers and i can get fields for the 206 or wilson for the 206 i'd rather probably go get wilson um so and especially if you're looking at i can trade a 2025 first for rogers or a 2025 second for wilson i'd rather go get wilson because there is significant risk with both but I could see both being top 15 quarterbacks in six-point-per-patch touchdown leagues, and I really wouldn't be that surprised by it. Alan Davis in the chat says, Fields may be Arthur Smith's new Cordero Patterson.

Let's not think. I mean, the idea of him running a two-quarterback system, I don't like it at all. He's got two running backs in Najee Harris and Jalen Warren. He can do all the messing around with those two guys that he wants. Let's move on to the running backs. I wrote about these guys today. That article will be on CBS Sports later today, but James Cook and Zemir White were the two running backs that I put for contenders to buy. Yes, those are 24-year-old running backs.

The point that I will make now, we'll get to rebuilders later, but I'm not ever going to tell a rebuilding team to go buy a running back. I think you should acquire running backs. I picked Zamir White up off the waiver wire in a dynasty league in the middle of last year, and now he's turned into probably an early second round pick in terms of value. Let's start with White. I am still buying him if I'm a contender. I'm not scared of Alexander Madison. I'm not scared of Dylan Loughby. I think Antonio Pierce is going to run the heck out of the ball as much as he can. And most of that's going to be Zamir White. What type of trades

are we seeing for him? You know, I've been surprised at the value increase for Zemir White this offseason. I was totally on board with your quarterback calls. I'm not with you on the running backs. But, you know, it looks like the community might be because the price is pretty high for Zemir White. 2.04 for Zemir White. That is in a single quarterback league. Jerry Judy for Zemir White. I already said I'm not really on board with buying White.

I would be on board at that price. I'd much rather have White than Judy. Yeah, I'm with you there. I want to get your thoughts on this one. Zemir White for Tyrone Tracy and a 2026 second rounder. So who knows on the pick, but Tracy versus White. Yeah, I strongly prefer White to Tracy. So I think I'm okay with that.

The question, and maybe you have a different feeling on tracy than i do he he's one of those rookies that i feel like a very low degree of confidence on um i think he could come in this year and take passing downs away from devin singletary i'm not sure that he's ever anything more than a passing downs back though i don't know that I ever see Tracy seeing double digit carries per game. No, I agree. I mean, I, I just keep thinking of Tracy as kind of a poor man's Antonio Gibson. Um, and not, not the hype that Gibson was getting, um, where some people, you know, maybe me, uh, projected he would be the dynasty RB one at some some point uh not not the height but what we really saw from gibson right uh and i i like tracy i do think he can be an asset as the pass down back in that in that offense uh i do agree that white is worth more

that that's one that's a close one for me was that a one qb league or a super flexly where that happened that was a one QB as well. So that 20, 26 seconds is not quite as valuable in that format. No, and of course, we know picks that far out aren't carrying a ton of value in general anyway. The last one was really the head scratcher for me. Zemir White even up for Jordan Addison. So that one just flummoxed me. I didn't even, actually didn't even hear it. So I think I may have frozen up there for a second, Ryan. Zemir White straight up for who? Yeah. Sorry about that. Jordan Addison for Zemir White. Yeah. I'm,

I'm a pretty big backer of buying zamir white and there's there's no way i want to trade jordan addison away for him so okay i agree with you entirely on that one let's talk about the other one because james cook is a guy that anybody who's listened to this show has heard me talk a lot about how much i love him and how i think he could be a top five running back this year they need somebody else to talk about why it's not such a good idea to trade for james cook so uh you can talk about the other side if you're not on board with that one. I mean, I think he was just kind of forced into what was essentially a bell cow roll last year. We're always going to worry about the Josh Allen rushing touchdowns. I believe he had 15 last year,

probably not going to have that many this year. So, you know, maybe that's a good thing for James Cook. But, you know, they bring in Ray Davis, Kentucky boy. I'm excited about him and think he can have a role as well. Basically, I just don't think it's going to be all James Cook as it was last year. The prices, though, are a little more than I want to pay as well. James Cook in a one quarterback league for CJ Stroud. We talked earlier about how those elite quarterbacks are undervalued. If you believe Stroud's in that group, obviously he has age on his side that he's going to be around. Uh, if, if things go as expected,

he's going to be around for another decade or so, at least I want Stroud pretty easily over, over James cook. That one might like, I do have cook valued higher than Stroud. I do think I could see a situation where I'm making that trade either direction, depending on what my quarterback situation is.

I think there are people who drafted C.J. Stroud in a one quarterback league, especially last year. I mean, how high was he going in one QB rookie drafts that maybe already had a good dynasty quarterback? And so Stroud is a bit of a luxury. He was no one really expected what we got out of C.J. Stroud as a rookie. But if he's your clear Qb1 and you don't really have

anybody else but i don't like that deal very much either yeah that makes sense um a deal i like a little bit more cook for deshaun watson and the 1.11 again that's a single quarterback league um i'd smash that yes love it love it yeah yeah Cook plus the 2.03 for the 1.07. That's, that's the last one I had that I thought was pretty interesting. It was that one. Super flicks. That was another one quarterback league.

So 1.07 you're, you know, that's maybe it's Jonathan Brooks at best. Trey Benson? Yeah. Your favorite of those tier two wide receivers? I would have Brooks ahead of Cook, but just barely. I've got them right in the same range.

But I think I would also have Brooks ahead of 107 in a one quarterback league. Yeah, I would too. I would as well. So, so yeah, that, that sounds about right. I'm not deterred from buying James Cook, but just make sure like, I, it does also make sense that the, the Kentucky guy thinks that Ray Davis is going to make a little bigger impact in James Cook's workload than I maybe do. And you probably know Davis a lot better than

I do so that will uh that could come to fruition let's get to one wide receiver I had as a buy for a contender that was Chris Godwin been a lot of talk about him moving to the slot we actually saw it seemed like the connection between him and Baker Mayfield just took longer to develop than it did with Mike Evans but there was a stretch at the end of last year where Godwin was out targeting Evans as he has several times throughout their career. And it does seem like Godwin's been a little bit just kind of left. Like people are treating him like he's as old as Devante Adams and Cooper Cup. And he's still just 28 years old. Are you on board with buying Godwin as a wide receiver three for your contending team. Yeah, we're back on the same page here for sure.

He's not cheap, at least not all of these deals are cheap, but I love him as the dynasty buy. I definitely think he's in for a bounce back year, a little bit more of a Kentucky connection. The Buccaneers new OC is Liam Cohen, former Kentucky offensive coordinator, former Rams offensive coordinator. The Rams stat didn't go great. That was two years ago. But he really maximized the talent of the players at Kentucky. And, you know, his system is intriguing enough that he's gotten two different OC jobs here in a three-year span.

I think he can continue what Dave Canales was doing there in Tampa, and we can see Chris Godwin bounce back pretty well. Godwin for a 2025 first rounder. That's the first deal here that popped up on the Dynasty Trade Finder. That's not cheap um and like it's it really if you haven't been burnt by thinking i'm one of the best two teams in the league so i don't mind trading my future 2025 first then that deal sounds a lot better because it probably is like a true contender. But I have seen those picks turn into 106 on occasion. And it really, when you've traded that pick and things start to go sideways, you can't really make that transition into, okay, I'm going to be a seller because you don't have the first round pick anyway.

So I don't love that one, but I think there's a good chance that at the end of the year, if your team does what you expect, it's going to be worth it. Yeah. So this is not a trade I'm making. I mean, and this is, you know, this is just like an opportunity cost situation, um, because you don't have endless amount of picks, especially first round pick. And if you, if you are willing to trade it, you're ready to make that move. You just have to ask yourself, can I get somebody better than Chris Godwin, right? Look at your dynasty rankings. Look at ADP.

If you don't have your own rankings, look at mine. Look at Heath. Look at whoever's rankings you trust and value. And just go up the list, right? Find Godwin and look five or 10 spots higher. Try to get that guy instead. I think you can do better than Godwin. If you are shopping your first round rookie pick, uh, what about Godwin for Derrick Henry? This is another one that just screams like team needs for me, right? I need a receiver. You need a running back. Let's do this. Yeah. I'm, I am

one of the low guys on Derrick Henry, which has been a fool's errand for everyone over the last half a decade. Everybody's been burnt by at least once. Um, but I, I'm, I would, I would rather have Godwin for sure. Okay. Um, the others were, um, honestly not even close. Chris Godwin and a 2025 first rounder for DeAndre Swift. I think that's, I think that's way off. I'd rather have either piece over Swift, let alone getting them together. And then Godwin for Khalil Shakir and the 2.04.

I think that's, that's like the perfect trade. I'm easily giving my two point oh four. I think that's that's the most fair trade we have among the Godwin deals. Absolutely love it. Let's take our second break. I will say just before we do the one tight end I'm buying as a contender is Pat Fryer. I think he's you can get him pretty easily for a late second. He went for a third. I saw in the DLF trade finder a couple of times as well, especially in tight end premium. I think he's going to be second on the Steelers and targets for a late second. He went for a third, I saw, in the DLF Trade Finder a couple times as well. Especially in tight end premium, I think he's going to be second on the Steelers in targets this year. We'll take that break. We'll get to a couple of buys for Rebuilders right after this.

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and honestly, this would go contender or Rebuilder, Brock Purdy, Kyle Pitts. Both are undervalued compared to other players at their position. You're seeing Purdy fall out of the top 12, sometimes even out of the top 15 quarterbacks, Kyle Pitts outside of the top five dynasty tight end, still just 23 years old. So those are my two favorite, uh, buys really no matter what the status of your team is. Two questions on pits. Would you, do you prefer pits or Bowers? Uh, pits.

Okay. I do just slightly. I've got pits fifth and Bauer sixth. Number two, if you had Travis Kelsey and it's time to make that transition from contender to rebuilder, are you willing to give up Kelsey for pits straight up? Oh, easily, easily. I'm, I'm adding to Kelsey to get pits, especially if I'm,

uh, if it looks like it's rebuild time for my team. Yep. Absolutely love it. I think I'm with you on pits. The Purdy one. I, I have a really hard time figuring out what to make of that whole,

I've got them at QB 13. Um, but if you look at the group of Trevor Lawrence, Brock Purdy to, uh, Jordan love, like I don't, I'll change those guys every month in the rankings. I don't have any idea how to rank those four quarterbacks. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's fair. I think he's, he's in that range. I guess what I've seen from some trades, from ADP, from rankings, is that he's not even being valued in that group. So that's where I feel like a little bit of pushback. I like it. I like it. So let's talk about a couple of quarterbacks who are cheaper

than him. And this is a super flex discussion because I'm not sure that Bryce Young or Will Levis ever become top 12 quarterbacks, but it does seem to me like they've been written off just a little bit too soon in terms of their potential to be starting QB2s in super flex leagues. Both of these guys get upgrades in terms of offensive coordinators. You mentioned Dave Canales left Tampa. He went to Carolina where he's going to be the head coach. Both of these guys get upgrades in terms of weapons.

Bryce Young gets Deontay Johnson. We see Calvin Ridley go to play with Will Levis. These guys have fallen outside of the top 20 quarterbacks in most rankings that I see. Are you up for buying Bryce Young and Will Levis and hoping they have a big bounce back in year two? Yeah, I'm up for buying both of these guys. Love that you included them here. And in the Superflex format, Bryce Young, maybe it's a little bit of the same thing we talked about with Justin Fields,

that not necessarily that you saw that past production, but you know you spent spent the one Oh one, the one Oh two on this guy and you're not ready to just sell low. In most cases, it's, it's still costing you a real real asset to get Bryce young, Bryce young and the 1.05 this year for Jordan love. So young and the one.05 for Jordan Love. I would rather have the Love side of that deal.

Me too. But I think that's fair. And again, you're talking 1.05. You know, maybe that's Drake May or Roma Dunze or Jonathan Brooks or Brock Bowers, right? You've got some good options there. You brought the name up.

So I wanted to ask you like, where do you, where would you put young in terms of this year's quarterback class? Well, sir, I mean, certainly behind, behind Williams and Daniels,

I think that that's assumed I'm taking above, I'm taking him above the rest. I want him over Drake May. So I don't think you have to trade the 1.05. And maybe after some poor camp reports, maybe May is not even really an option at five for most people. If you have a later rookie draft, he's probably more in that 789 range. So yeah, trading a later pick or a deal like some of the others that we're looking at here make more sense. Another one, Bryce Young for the 1.10, speaking of deals like that to maybe get Drake May. Bryce Young for the 110 and the 3.04. I'd rather have Bryce Young in a super flex league. Yeah.

Me too. Last one, Bryce Young and an early third for JSN. Jackson Smith and Jigba were obviously a couple of rookies last year who disappointed. Who do you feel better about moving forward yeah i i am i mean i'm probably equally hopeful for both of these guys but yes you too if but bryce young a quarterback in a super flex league is i'd rather have him than the wide receiver yeah and again you're adding the 3.01 to Bryce Young Which, that pick is getting you a nice player this year In my opinion, so yeah, I'm on the Young side there as well

Will Levis, not quite as expensive Levis and the 110 for J.J. McCarthy So I'm assuming this was a situation where Maybe McCarthy was taken seven or eight and, uh, somebody really wanted that one, wanted that player. I don't have that big a difference between McCarthy and Levis. I do have McCarthy ahead of Levis, but not, not by near that much. Totally agree. Totally agree.

I want the, the package there, Levis and the pick. Levis and Drake London for Drake May and Quentin Johnston. So you're doing a wide receiver quarterback swap, Levis London, May, Quentin Johnston. I don't think this one's that close. Not close at all. Give me Levis and London. You know what's not that far off for me is levis and drake may um i've got may basically one spot ahead of levis in my quarterback rankings and two spots ahead in my super flex trade chart so yeah i i love that deal and you've really uh given me some confidence and going out and trying to buy those two quarterbacks let's finish up with a couple of

second year wide receivers tank dell again another guy that I probably need somebody to talk me down on on this show because I spent too much time talking about how much I love him as my favorite Texans wide receiver in Dynasty, and I wouldn't be surprised if he was the best this year, but he's been discounted because of Stefan Diggs' arrival for this year. Rashi Rice has been discounted because of the off field problems. Are you buying both of these guys? Has the price dropped on either one of these guys? Price has certainly dropped on Rashi Rice.

And yeah, I'm, I'm with you on both of these and the cheaper you can get them, the better the prices have not really come down on tank Dell. From what we're seeing, Kenneth Walker, even up for tank Dell um isaiah pacheco even up for tank dell i'm uh i'm certainly paying pacheco for for tank uh walker is it's close for me i i think just with the depth of uh of the wide

receiver position and uh the lack of depth at running back. I think I would probably prefer Walker there. Yeah. I'm going to probably lean towards Dell. I, I struggle so much because I love Ken Walker and I love Zach Charbonnet and they can't both be as valuable as I would like for them to be. And so that one's a difficult one. I do want to, I, I promised people we were going to answer a couple of trade questions. So let's just real quick here, wrap these up. Benjamin has 211,

which has turned into Niko. So let's just say Niko Collins for a 2025 first, second, and third. This is a single QB draft. So 2025 first, second, and third for Nico Collins, which side of that are you on Ryan? I want Nico Collins there. This, that, that deal is one of my favorite types of deals. You know, the, the Ricky Williams deal, I'll give you all my picks for this one player. Second rounders are nice. Third rounders, sometimes they're nice, but in general, those are not picks we can count on. But when you stack a first, a second, a third, you know, if you have fourth rounders sometimes they're nice but in general those are not picks we can count on but when you stack a first a second a third you know if you have fourth rounders in your league you throw that in too i'll give you all of this for this one guy it looks a lot more impressive than it is i want nico collins there i think this one will be easy for you to answer but uh zamir

white or dj moore no dj moore not even close for me i hope i hope we agree there we agree we do have uh this is not quite a trade question but it is a a value question and it's i don't like yeah i think you need deeper rosters is my first answer to this question ace but you can't make that change now so 12 team dynasty ppr needs to drop one needs to drop Cortland Sutton or Michael Wilson. Which one of those are you dropping? And does it matter like what stage you're at? Like you're keeping one as a contender and one as a rebuilder, or is it definitely the same guy either way? And I think I'm, I'm keeping Sutton either way. I mean, we're still talking about the wide receiver one on, uh, on the Broncos versus the at best wide receiver two,

the at best third option on the Cardinals. So yeah, I just think Sutton carries more value. Sutton's another guy who, if he has the same role in this offense that he had last year, is probably going to see his value increase quite a bit in the next month. The Marvin Mims talk, the Troy Franklin pick,

the questions about Bo Nix and how far down the field he can throw the football. Those things I think are negatively impacting Sutton. I agree with you. I would rather have Courtland Sutton. Although if it was a trade situation

and I was a rebuilder, it might not take too much for me to lean towards the Michael Wilson side. Ryan, I kept you a little bit longer than I promised, but I always appreciate you joining me. Remind everybody one more time where they can find your work and what you've got coming up. Yeah. Thanks so much, Heath. Always, always fun to talk with you. Yeah. Find

my work at dynastyleaguefootball.com. Also host the, or co-host the DLF Dynasty podcast over there and find me on Twitter at RyanMC23c 23 coming up more content and more sfb like i said go to underdog join one of those uh satellite drafts uh they are a blast and you've got a chance to punch your ticket for sfb 15 this time next year awesome awesome stuff ryan always enjoy having you on we will do it again soon thank you to everybody who was listening. We will talk to you again on Tuesday.