Fantasy Football Today - Tracy? Pacheco? Ridley? Which Veterans Have the Most to Gain or Lose from the NFL Draft? (04/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: April 16, 2025

With the NFL Draft around the corner, which players could see their value change the most? We start with three running backs (3:45) who have a lot to lose. Can Jaylen Warren, Najee Harris or Tyrone T...racy Jr. fend off a rookie RB? ... News and notes (14:10) on Tyreek Hill, Caleb Williams, Travis Hunter and more. Then we talk about the quarterbacks (22:15) and RBs (23:45) who could be most affected by the NFL Draft. How likely is Isiah Pacheco (29:30) to lose his job to a rookie? Will the Jaguars draft Ashton Jeanty? ... Talking wide receivers (42:40) with a lot to gain or lose next week including Calvin Ridley, Jakobi Meyers, Jerry Jeudy and maybe Ladd McConkey. And which tight ends (55:40) could see a loss in Fantasy value next week? ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 This is fantasy football today from CBS sports It's time to dominate your fantasy league Here's some combination of Adam Dave Jamie and he We welcome you to the Wednesday edition of Fantasy Football today. This April 16th, everybody hope you paid your taxes. And now we've got to talk about the NFL draft and the NFL veterans that could be affected when a new wide receiver joins their team, when a new running back joins their team, there's going to be really a lot of that. That was not the case last year, but a lot of day two running backs,
Starting point is 00:00:41 even some day three running backs, maybe in this awesome class that are going to affect some veterans. And of course, we're going to get a new quarterback for guys like Calvin Ridley and maybe Jerry Judy and whatnot, not necessarily in round one. Anyway, welcome. We're all here. Adam, Dave, Jamie Heath, got some screenshots to share. We've got some fun today. We're going to talk about Tyreek Hill. We're going to talk about what Travis Hunter said, what Caleb Williams says he wants to work on this week and more. All right. First you ready for-
Starting point is 00:01:08 Did Cam Ward said? No, what did Cam Ward say? Cam Ward was playing Fortnite and he was asked about his favorite running backs. And he said Tony Pollard and Ty J Spears, and then he listed his top four favorite wide receivers. And I don't remember who two and three were, but one and four were Calvin Ridley and Traylen Burks. Yeah. It's like, I think Justin Jefferson was on the list and it was, yeah, he's going to the
Starting point is 00:01:30 Titans. Traylon Burks is psyched. He's still on somebody's top five list. Well, all the, all the Traylon Burks truthers were so excited yesterday. All right. Good luck, baby. Would you like an email of the day? Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:44 We all do. All right. I guess I didn't get the memo? Hell yeah. We all do. Sure. All right. I guess I didn't get the memo to wear black by the way. I feel like Heath is wearing blue. This is a very dark blue. Yes. I never get that. Our email address is fantasyfootballatcbsi.com. That's the letter I fantasyfootballatcbsi.com.
Starting point is 00:02:01 Mike says, last year, you guys did a draft contest. Are you running the contest again this year? And the answer will definitely be yes. So just real quick on that. You can get in the podcast league if you get the most answers right. We're going to ask you to email that email address. Don't do it yet. Wait a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Wait for the news and the rumors to come out. You have a better picture of the NFL draft, but give us your top 10. Doesn't have to be the, I don't care about the teams. I just want the players, the players in order. And you have to get them right in order. People are like, I got eight right. I'm like, well, you got them all out of order. So it doesn't count.
Starting point is 00:02:34 You got to get them right in order. More about that, I'll tell you about it tomorrow. Let's get to the show today. Give me one player that you think could be most affected by the NFL draft in a good way or a bad way. I'll start with Jamie Eisenberg. Najee Harris in a bad way. You think so?
Starting point is 00:02:52 You think that's going to have you think that's realistic? I mean, it wouldn't surprise me. They signed him to a one year deal. He, he has a chance to be very good this season if he doesn't get significant competition. But if he gets any competition of significance in a very loaded running back class, then he goes from being a guy I think that we're somewhat excited about to somebody that we're back to, okay, he's in a committee again,
Starting point is 00:03:15 and he's just going to be a flex. Probably wouldn't be great for the running back they drafted either, right? Because it's not like you just get a bench nausea. Right. This is what we talked about on Express the other day, Adam, in terms of like, you know, what are these teams with older or veteran running backs in place that are going to draft someone,
Starting point is 00:03:35 a la what happened last year, lesser degree of talent, but you know, Blake Corum going to the Rams and Trey Benson going to the Cardinals, those types of situations. All right, let's throw it over to Heath. Heath, one player who could be affected most by the NFL draft in a good or bad way. It has to be Tyrone Tracy.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Like could literally be a top 20 running back as the lead back with the Giants. Yeah, to you Heath, woo! Happy birthday to you! That's fantastic. Alright! Thank you. A day late.
Starting point is 00:04:12 Thank you. I appreciate that. I received nice messages from Jamie and Dave and Thomas yesterday. And so I appreciate you contributing. I sent you a message. I don't know what... Back to the irregular scheduled programming. Yeah, I like there might be a dozen running
Starting point is 00:04:30 backs in this class who are better than Tracy. So whereas nausea might go from being the starting running back to being a committee, Tracy could go from the starting running back to being the clear backup. Oh man. I don't know how I feel about it. I wanna show you guys a couple of screenshots and my limitations as a film watch, game tape watcher. I would just, tell me what you think you would have done
Starting point is 00:04:57 if you were Tyrone Tracy. Now, if you can't see this, hop on over to youtube.com slash fantasy football today, youtube.com slash fantasy football today. youtube.com slash fantasy football today. So you see he's got the ball at the 33 yard line. Are you going straight or are you gonna try to veer to your right to that hole in between the right guard and right tackle?
Starting point is 00:05:15 I'm gonna fall down in the fetal position and hope they don't hit me too hard. He should be going. He should be going to his right, right? He did not, he went straight into those two defenders. Why do we know? Well, I cause I watched it, but yeah, but I don't see it. So we're supposed to trust you.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Yeah. How do we know you didn't azer this film? Give me the next screenshot, please. Thomas, where are you going here? Is that the time I'm going to come? I'm going to cut to the left. It looks like he He's at the 25. I'm gonna cut to the left. It looks like he's cutting to the right. This is the Giants Colts game from last year.
Starting point is 00:05:50 I'm going to the bathroom to throw up because I started the Colts DST. He's probably scored on this play. This is where the Giants lost the number one pick of the draft by beating the Colts. So yes, he does not go to the left. He goes to the right. And I just watched a watch the decent
Starting point is 00:06:06 amount he in this game in particular, he basically it seems like he just follows where the play is going. I don't see great vision. I don't I don't see him improvising. Now, there's more to watch because one thing he did a lot he has some big breakaway runs not in this game. We had one in this game, but he had some really good plays. But it's, I think you look at this play, it's disappointing that Tyrone Tracy does not cut to his left. And also he had one of the worst broken tackle rates in the NFL. So I think the Giants are going to draft the running back and yes, he thought Quinchon Judkins coming in, right? Oh, I'm not. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And Chider Sanders too. Well, didn't they use all their top 30 visits on all the quarterbacks that are available? They had Hampton and too, right?
Starting point is 00:06:51 Honestly, I don't know. I don't know. But yeah, they're going to draft the running back. So, all right, it's good. I think the one thing with those screenshots, I'm glad you brought it up. You know, so this is this is an interesting question, probably for, you know, more coaches than anything we can answer. And how much they want players to follow what the play design is versus what they want them to improvise on. Now the last one that you showed where the play is going to the right, he obviously has a chance to get a couple yards and then he can bounce it to the left.
Starting point is 00:07:17 That's something I'm sure that they would love to see. But the first one that you showed where there is clearly an opening to the right, but he's already going to his left. Like how much of that is if he does cut that back, it's a negative point. And how much of that is just an experience, right? And that was the second thing to break up. You know, you're talking about a converted receiver, but you're running back in college. Like how much of that is just him still growing in the position? Now that doesn't change the fact of yes, they're probably going to add competition or an upgrade.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Clearly, I mean, it's, you know, they kind of got lucky with what he was able to accomplish for them last year, especially knowing that they move on from Saquon, Devon Singletary was supposed to be the guy, and then Tracy was, you know, clearly better than him. But it also wouldn't shock me if they don't, you know, just given some of the other needs that they have
Starting point is 00:08:04 and kind of just roll with what was something somewhat of a success for them, you know, but again, could they get better there? I think that's the answer. Keith, did you want to get in? Sorry. No. Okay. Let's see the Giants have the have a top three pick in each in every round.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Basically, they also have a compensatory pick in round three. So they've got a lot of picks in the first, probably 100 or so picks looks like they have five. I don't know. I don't know what their fourth round pick is overall. Barring trading back in somewhere. That second round pick is probably quarterback. Could be weird to take a quarterback after they take standards at three.
Starting point is 00:08:45 I hate you. All right. If they pass on Abdul Carter, that would just be amazingly disappointing. Dave, one player who could be most affected by the NFL draft. I'm worried that Jalen Warren won't be the lead back that we want him to be in Pittsburgh and that the Steelers, they do not have a lot of top 100 picks, but they can always trade down. And this is a rich running back draft. They can find somebody who can pick up the nausea role and be the physical grinder and
Starting point is 00:09:16 leave Jalen Warren to part-time duty again. And we won't see him be the feature back for the Steelers. And even if they don't do it, like it's, it's, it's Arthur Smith, calling the plays and using multiple backs. And I think court Darrell Patterson is still there. So there's, there there's concern that Jalen Warren won't ever be, uh, there's concern that he won't be a top 20 to 24 running back by the time we get to August. Did you mention Gainwell?
Starting point is 00:09:43 For the three scenarios that we brought up and somebody asked us in the chat, there there's two pretty prominent names that are still available free agency and JK Dobbins and Nick Chubb. And so do those two guys still post draft if a team like the Steelers, cause you said it, they, they don't have a lot of draft capital. You know, do they go and sign one of these two guys, you know, to be sort of that physical runner that may may need to come in to replace what Najee Harris was offering them. So it still could be like, Oh, wow, look, Jaylen Warren escaped the draft without anybody.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And then the next day, they signed J.K. Dobbins. Nick Chubb coming off a broken foot. J.K. Dobbins, a little bit surprising, I guess, that he's still a free agent. All right. So, Najee Harris, Tyrone Tracy, Jalen Warren, that's... Heath, you've been talking to so many people, you know, talking NFL draft. It's kind of the theme, right? It's... And also, we need to... Because I'm typically a guy who's like, well, they drafted a day three running back. I don't think he's going to be that big of a threat, but we might have to change that this year, right? Yes. And we did the wide receiver preview yesterday with the couch scouts. And we'll
Starting point is 00:10:49 talk about that more when we get to the Travis Hunter news. But like, I think one of the things is if you fall to RB 10 in this class, it's not near as big of a condemnation as if you fall to the wide receiver 10 in this class. If you're the 10th wide receiver taken in what we view as a pretty mediocre wide receiver class, that might be a bit of a red flag. If you're the 10th running back, well, there's just, there might be nine starting running backs in the class. And we're going to talk about running backs extensively tomorrow with Emery Hunt. And you can hear great stuff on FFT dynasty, the running back previews there. All right. So speaking of programming, just to give you a heads up on what's coming up next week, we're going to have, so typically we do Monday, Wednesday, Thursday morning. We'll do Monday morning. We'll do Wednesday morning. We will do Thursday night, about midnight Eastern, right after the draft, right after
Starting point is 00:11:30 round one, we're going to do the same thing on Friday night after rounds two and three. And at some point on Saturday, we will have another show for you there where we talk about the day three picks. So we're going to have a show on Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday morning. We're going to have a show on Friday night after rounds two and three and at some point on Saturday we will have a Another show for you there where we talk about the day three picks So after the draft wraps up on Thursday Friday and Saturday Saturday, we might get started a little bit earlier
Starting point is 00:11:56 I think sometimes we start like during round seven But whatever it may be we are gonna have content for you to give you winners and losers fantasy analysis From each round of the NFL draft. All right, we're going to take a break. Come back and talk news and notes with Tyreek Hill on the news and more after this. Welcome back. All right. So the Dolphins were talking about some trades they might make.
Starting point is 00:12:16 They're trying to trade cornerback Jalen Ramsey, but they don't want to trade Tyreek Hill. They said they'd trade him for two first round picks. They're not going to get that. So unlikely. So, right now, it looks like Tyreek Hill will be on the Dolphins. Left tackle Tyron Smith, an absolute legend. He is retiring.
Starting point is 00:12:35 He and Zach Martin will be eligible for the Hall of Fame in the same year, and they both could be first ballot Hall of Famers. All right, so Heath, you wanna talk about Travis Hunter? He said that he is going to play both sides of the ball or he won't play football basically. And he also said that the NFL teams he's talked to have had no problems with him playing both sides of the ball. I think this is the nightmare scenario for dynasty drafters is if a team says, yeah,
Starting point is 00:12:59 we're going to let him play both sides of the ball. We'll, we'll figure it out in training camp how much he's going to play on both sides. Because I had, like I said, the couch scouts on yesterday, they have Hunter as their clear number one wide receiver in this class and their best comp for him, I think was Malik neighbors. Matt Harmon's been on social media talking about Hunter and his best comp for him was Odell Beckham. Yeah. So like, this is an extremely talented player, no matter what position he plays.
Starting point is 00:13:29 And he just has natural athletic gifts that few even NFL players have. But I don't really think, it doesn't seem very likely that he's playing both positions and he's the number one wide receiver on a team. Like it seems like you're probably a 60-70% snapshot guy on both or you're the number two option in the passing game. And if you're going into training camp with a little bit of mystery around what position he's going to play, like they were saying yesterday, he's the 102 if he's a full-time wide receiver. And I don't necessarily disagree with that.
Starting point is 00:14:07 But if it's this, he's going to play both, how do you risk the second pick on them getting to camp and deciding he's going to play 80% of the snaps on defense and 30% on offense? I think you do it if you're running back bountiful, like you don't need any running backs in this you know season and you're wide receiver desperate like you know assuming McMillan doesn't go to like the you know dream scenario or wherever you know you think is gonna end up being the you know golden right if that's your guy you know so if he like if he goes to Cleveland, right, which is what seems to be the case at this point, I think he walks in better than Judy right away.
Starting point is 00:14:50 Oh, like from a fantasy standpoint, from a talent standpoint, from a talent standpoint. Yeah. But from a fantasy standpoint, because we don't know the snapshot. And so like, to me, it's worth the risk. What's it's going to be? It's going gonna be fascinating. Sorry, so wait, let's clarify. If he goes to Cleveland, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:15:10 It's worth it. Taking him with the second pick in the rookie drive. Oh, yeah, so like I have the third pick in our league. I don't think I could do it. I just see- Well, it's also super flex. I'm talking about one Kiwi. Right, so there's only one quarterback
Starting point is 00:15:22 I would even consider right there. So he'll probably be gone. So, yeah, I one quarterback I would even consider right there. So, he'll probably be gone. So, yeah, I don't think I would do it. There's just too many possibilities of after two years, you know, who knows? After two years, he might be the best cornerback in football and he's a mostly full-time corner. He plays 20% of the offensive snap. That's obviously, or it's the complete opposite. I don't know. But there's too much risk there. Especially when you have such a great running back class for him to be the second pick in dynasty. It's kind of where I'm
Starting point is 00:15:52 leaning and I think about this all the time because I know I have the third pick. I want to bring up one guy, the only guy I could think of that was like good with a limited snap share. I'm sure there's more but Antonio Brown with the Bucks, two seasons with the Bucks, he averaged a 58% snap share. I'm sure there's more, but Antonio Brown with the Bucks, two seasons with the Bucks, he averaged a 58% snap share, and his 17 game pace was 99 catches, 1,165 yards, nine touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:16:15 That's the only thing that came to mind as a guy who like kind of didn't play that much and was awesome. That was with Evans and Gronk too, right? And Godwin, that was like crazy. All right, anyway, anything else or shall we move on? Okay, we'll move on. You guys good?
Starting point is 00:16:34 You guys got me? Yeah, okay, that's weird. Nobody said anything, okay. Caleb Williams. Move on. Caleb Williams said he wants to work on processing and then taking more check downs and then footwork. He also says he's not too interested in becoming friends with current quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Like, it's not for me. But he says he wants to take more check downs. So think about that. Mike Triplett of New Orleans football suggests that Derek Carr might be trying to force his way out of New Orleans. He seems to have been unhappy for a little while here. So maybe that's what this shoulder thing is about. We'll see. I saw this on CBS Sports dot com.
Starting point is 00:17:13 This is something to keep in mind for dynasty drafts. And I would just say that if you feel if you're a team that needs a quarterback, don't just take one because you need one. All right. So there have been six NFL drafts in the past 20 years in which only one to two quarterbacks were taken in the first round. Almost every quarterback in those drafts became a bust. They were Kenny Pickett, E.J. Manuel, Jamis Winston,
Starting point is 00:17:37 Marcus Mariota, Sam Bradford, Tim Tebow, Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Jamarcus Russell, and Brady Quinn. So the point of this is the NFL is going to tell us this is a really bad quarterback draft. Don't take one just because you need one. You know, I don't know what the, if you guys wanna give any other advice there, but this is gonna be a bad quarterback draft, it seems,
Starting point is 00:17:59 based on history. Unless Jalen Milrow hits his upside. And Baltimore's GM, Eric DaCosta, said he never knows what's going to happen when he was asked about Mark Andrews being on the team. So it was at the owners meetings, right, Jamie, when they gave a vote of confidence to Mark Andrews, but not so much. Harbaugh did. So I didn't hear what DaCosta said at the meetings.
Starting point is 00:18:22 I know what Harbaugh said, which was basically basically they're not interested in trading away good players now the cost of kind of said the same thing but also left door open that if the right offer comes along chargers that they would probably consider you know moving on from him you know for a guy that I believe is 30 now and entering the final year of his contract when you have a 25 year old as a likely and you know could add or see her in this class. And they signed DeAndre Hopkins who could probably run similar routes to what Andrews does,
Starting point is 00:18:50 especially in the red zone at this point. So wouldn't shock me if there's draft day trade, but my guess is this is a front office versus coaching staff that might be a little bit split on what they wanna have and they're starting tight end has been pretty special. They can save at least $7 million, I think, if they cut Mark Andrews. But I always have trouble interpreting those, those contracts. So I'd be surprised if he's cut. Yes, I
Starting point is 00:19:20 think at this point, you know, it's either trade or on the roster. It's probably the same thing with Dallas Goddard to like, these are two guys that if the teams that are interested in the top three or four tight ends, which there's, you know, pretty good class there at the top, if they miss on those guys or, you know, again, a team like the chargers that's looking for maybe another veteran pass catcher that has some familiarity with the office coordinator, um, you could see those two guys potentially on the move, Goddard and Andrews.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Let's get back to players who could be affected by the NFL draft. Dave, you gave us a big long list of players and just to run through the quarterbacks real quick, you put Justin Fields, the Cleveland quarterbacks and the Giants quarterbacks. So these are just teams that you're thinking would draft a quarterback and then, and then we'd have situations where hey, are these guys going to get benched? Who's going to start it? Like, what do you see there? Cleveland and Giants and Jets.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I mean, I think you, you summed it up pretty sufficiently. These are all teams where they could draft a quarterback. And if things go south, by the time we get to Halloween, the rookie goes in and plays. I don't think there's anything that's going to stop the Browns from benching Kenny Pickett or Joe Flacco. I think the Giants could potentially feel the same way with Russ and Jamis Winston and maybe one of those teams trades one of those quarterbacks. Um, to be a backup somewhere else because they drafted a rookie and maybe the
Starting point is 00:20:41 rookie took some steps forward in training camp, they feel a lot more confident in them. At least the Jets, they don't have to bench Justin Fields. So they could stink for three quarters of the season and fields could still play. And then they can turn to their young quarterback in the future. But those are three teams. It would make sense for them to go and get one of the, the young quarterbacks in the strap class.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I didn't put the Steelers on there. I think we're all assuming that Aaron Rogers will be the quarterback. I would have a hard time believing that the Steelers would bench Rogers for a rookie unless they were out of playoff contention. And really throughout Mike Tomlin's career as the coach in Pittsburgh, that team's almost never out of playoff contention. So I think let's go to the running backs, right? And let's
Starting point is 00:21:24 talk about the running backs that could be affected. So Dave gave us a list of ton of names here. So I think let's go to the running backs, right? And let's talk about the running backs that could be affected. So Dave gave us a list of ton of names here. So I just want to know, I'll go one by one. And you guys tell me how affected you think they could be? What should we say like a round two to four running back something like that if their NFL team drafts running all like a top 100 pick? Yeah, maybe I don't know if we should go a little bit deeper this year just because running back is so good. You know, but so yeah, I don't know if I'm going
Starting point is 00:21:53 to be really to move by around five pick, but maybe depends on the player. But top 100 top 120, something like that. Alvin Camara. What are you looking for us to say? I'm sorry. How affected. Okay. Yeah. Effective effectometer. Effectometer. This team drafts a running back in rounds two, three or four.
Starting point is 00:22:17 How affected is this veteran going to be by the rookie? Alvin Camara. He says not very affected at all. Two on the effecto meter. Yeah. It's not going to be high. So four max. Okay. Chase Brown. If it's a, not a, not around one pick, then yeah, I think that's fair. Yeah. No around one pick. You're hearing, you're hearing genties, somebody on their list, which would be terrifying.
Starting point is 00:22:40 Okay. We'll cross that. As they do that, they've got to move Camara to Denver. Chase Brown. Put Camara back with Sean Payne. It sounds like Chase Brown's safe. Probably in that same range as Alvin Camara, where he'd be like a three, three or four if they added a physical type of running back that could come in and take work off of them? Five or six if they add somebody on that level.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Heath, you said six. Jamie sort of agrees. Dave's not as worried about Chase Brown. Go ahead. Yeah, I think like we've seen Kamara function as an elite fantasy producer based on his receiving volume. And so if the saints are going to have another early down rusher, we know that. What is chase Brown's share of the backfield? Like right now it probably looks like it's 65, 70% late last year. It was higher than that. If they go get a running back in round two or round three, I could see
Starting point is 00:23:46 that by mid season being 40 or 45%. There's there were running backs in this class that are better than Chase Brown. So I agree with everything he just said. I also think what they've started with is, is accurate too. I don't think they add anybody, you know, based on what Zach Taylor said, when I asked him about it at the owner's meetings about, you know, what Chase Brown did. did and he said he's one of our guys, you know, like basically in the same Context of you know, the receivers and and Joe burrow like it would be surprising if they're going to look for a replacement so clearly if they do that then that's telling but I think it's more of
Starting point is 00:24:20 Do they feel the need to upgrade over Zack Moss and a guy that they brought in brought back and Samaj P Ryan, you know, to add a little bit more depth there and somebody with more talent than those guys. But I think the signing of P Ryan and the fact that Moss is still right now on the roster kind of tells you I think what their plan is like that's not an area of need for them with that defense right now. If they're looking at their backfill and saying we need to fix that, like they really need some help. And they don't have a ton of like, they have one pick in round six and seven combined. But it wouldn't surprise me if they use that one pick on one of the day three running backs,
Starting point is 00:24:54 just to see if they could find somebody to take some of the work off of Chase Brown. The Bengals have one pick 17th overall in each of the first six rounds. I do think they're going to draft a running back. Well, I'll put it this way. I wouldn't be surprised just because it is so deep. It's arguably the best position in the draft. If you walk out of this draft without a running back, you might be doing yourself a disservice. So I, do you feel that way too, Heath? Yeah, I, I expect them to draft a running back between rounds three and round
Starting point is 00:25:27 six. And if it's round three, then it's a big problem for Chase Brown. If it's round six, then it probably doesn't matter at all for Chase Brown. All right. Next up we have the Jaguars running backs, ETN and Bigsby. Is the number a combination of how likely we think it is and the impact or just the impact just the impact Six Effect oh me I think they could find a guy that wipes out bigsby and makes ETN a limited component of the offense They've got a ton of picks. So I'm gonna go higher than that. I'll say seven. I Think that's fair. You're also hearing maybe Gentie at five to them. Um, they should.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I, there I, I, and this is just philosophically, like this is a, not a very good football team. They have so many needs. I don't know. It's kind of like in baseball, you go get a great closer when you might have 45 save opportunities. They do have a lot of payback. They're not in the stage, I don't think, where you add a running back.
Starting point is 00:26:31 You mean in round one or overall? Right. I think they might draft one, but I could also see them thinking, we have a lot bigger needs even than RB2. We already have an RB2. Yeah, that's fair, but they need playmakers just period. And Gentie is one of the playmakers in there. There are very few like players that you can look at in this draft and say, all right, that guy's going to be a stud.
Starting point is 00:26:57 Like there might only be three of those players in this draft and Gentie is definitely one of them. It wouldn't shock me if they took Gentie and then kind of relegated the other two running backs. It's also that's the spot a lot of people are looking at saying that this is where the Bears try to go. This is where the Raiders try to go from a trade perspective is to get to five. So, you know, and it may be they're competing with each other. They got said Jaguars have seven picks in the top 142. They have four picks in the top 88, six picks in the top 126. They do have a lot of ammo. All right, next up we've got Jalen Warren. We talked about Isaiah Pacheco. How effective would he be if the Chiefs drafted running back
Starting point is 00:27:36 in rounds two through four as I'll reframe it here. Isaiah Pacheco, effecto meter. Seven or eight. Pacheco effecto meter. Seven or eight. It wouldn't be weird though, if they did this because they've already spent that they brought back Kareem hunt. They've got Elijah Mitchell. Do they need, how many more running backs do they really need? Are they just stockpiling?
Starting point is 00:27:58 Is this a team that really needs a running back? This is like the opposite of what Heath was saying with Jacksonville. Like, obviously they want good players too too but do they need to go and spend pick thirty one on Hampton. I sure hope not what i want but they need offensive have won it before. Add the lesson from that though i don't know but also like were either hunts hunts or Mitchell's deals like prohibitive to just like getting to camp and be like, no, see you. I mean, I think both of them are like that. Right. I mean, you look, you look at their backfield, it might be the least expensive running back room in the league. I mean, you have a seventh round guy in Pacheco, you have
Starting point is 00:28:42 two one year deals in Mitchell and Hunt. Carson Steele, I can't imagine, has anything of money involved there as an undrafted guy. So it wouldn't shock me either way. I mean, they just made the Super Bowl in back-to-back seasons with a seventh round running back, a retread guy. And I know they had Clyde Aruzzalera two years ago on the roster as a first round pick.
Starting point is 00:29:04 But we know what that was for them. And I know they had Clyde Aruzzaleira two years ago on the roster as a first round pick, but we know what that was for them. So it almost feels as if they're telling us what they can get by with. And why would you change that if you have guys that you're comfortable with? And again, I'll go back to what Andy Reid told me at the meetings, which was they felt that Pacheco came back too soon. And he said most guys wouldn't have come back from that, but if you met him for a second, you know that he wasn't going to be held back. And then expecting him to be better, you know, so Coach Peek, whatever you want to take it for, just
Starting point is 00:29:37 seeing the moves and then hearing that, yes, they could certainly bring somebody in. I would think it's more of a late round variety and hope that they hit on another Pacheco. We had a question in the chat about the guarantees for Hunt and Eli and it's a combined 2.2 million for the two of them. So it's nothing. Super cheap. And all three of these guys might not be on the chief's roster next year. So at some point they should add a running back, but could be like Cincinnati, it could be on day three. We know Pacheco is better than what he showed.
Starting point is 00:30:10 In 2023, he averaged 4.6 yards per carry. He was the number 14 running back per game on pace for 249 carries, 53 catches, about 1,450 yards. But so we know he's better than that. So here's my question, right? I know based on what we said earlier that if the Steelers or Giants draft a running back in like say round three, we're going to be pretty concerned about Jaylen Warren and Tyrone Tracy.
Starting point is 00:30:37 So let's say the Steelers, Giants, Chiefs, and Bears. I'm throwing the Bears in there. They all draft a running back in round three We in this hypothetical situation. We like all of these four rookie running backs the same, right? It's not like well, I like this guy so much, but you know, it's the same draft capital. It's the same type of player I know you're worried about Warren I know you're worried about Tracy how to Pacheco and in this case Deandre Swift compare in terms of how concerned you
Starting point is 00:31:05 are about them losing their roles and becoming non-fantasy relevant compared to Warren and Tracy? Does that make sense? Warren doesn't necessarily worry me so much as these other guys because I think he's still going to have his role. Yeah, but now he's set up, but he could lose the potential to be like a true- I know what you're saying. But like he doesn't like Tracy could be irrelevant. I wouldn't, wouldn't shock me. Deandre Swift is somewhat irrelevant. You know,
Starting point is 00:31:31 just knowing that it's a coaching staff that knows him that's coming in saying, okay, yeah, you didn't work out so well for me in Detroit, I'm gonna move on from you in Chicago, too. So like, I think Warren just kind of goes, I don't think Warren is worse than what he was. You know what I mean? Like, no, but he's worse than what he was. You know what I mean? Like, no, but he's worse than what he is right now. Correct.
Starting point is 00:31:48 You don't believe that premise. That's fine. Right. So saying yeah, like we're drafting a dude. I'm worried about all of them. I'm worried about 300 touch running back. He's going to share with somebody. It's just how much he's going to share.
Starting point is 00:32:02 Yeah. But I'm worried. I would think I'd be the least worried about Pacheco. I'd be the least worried about Warren. I'd be the least worried about Warren. I would think if all four of those teams, if the Chiefs, Steelers, Giants and Bears draft are running back at round three, I think Pacheco has the best chance to be I think Pacheco has the best chance to be a 250 carry guy out of the four veterans. He could also be on the bench the entire game. Why though?
Starting point is 00:32:34 I think he probably does have a better chance of being a 250 carry guy than Jaylen Warren. I'd still think Jaylen Warren has a better chance of being a top 30 fantasy running back because he's going to catch 50 or 60 passes. I think Pacheco agreed. I think Pacheco has the best chance to be a top 12 running back. Who's got the best chance to score seven touchdowns. I think Pacheco has the best chance to just fend off the rookie running back to be a James Connor from last year is what I'm saying. Yeah, he could. I mean, obviously. But is he all the way back from that injury? And,
Starting point is 00:33:07 you know, like Dave said, this is a guy that they have such little investment in, and could be off the team next year. You know, they may be looking at it as they have another it really comes down to who it is, you know, I mean, if it's more of like a smaller, you know, guy, then I think it's more Pacheco still their physical runner and can get the 250 carries. And then maybe we're seeing like a Jared McKinnon type of player for them as a pass catcher and a gimmick guy. If the Steelers bring in more of a guy that's apt to run on first and second down, like Jaylen Warren just kind of goes back to what he was.
Starting point is 00:33:43 And I think it's worth remembering, like, I know Pacheco had a good two thirds of a season or whatever, but like his career high and touches is 249. He was not a high pedigree guy. He's not a great pass catcher. He hasn't, they haven't shown a whole lot of faith of him in short yardage. Like they, they had great success with him and won a Super Bowl with him. And that's that's great. When two schools with him. But he he's never had a thousand yard rushing season. He's never had a 10 touchdown.
Starting point is 00:34:14 But never had a 50 catch season. Have any of these guys had a thousand yards is Swift? Maybe. But I mean, none of these guys are. I'm just comparing him. I understand all the risks. Well, the other guys are almost universally better pass catchers and Swift did have a thousand yard season. Okay. Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like I feel like so someone said this in the chat,
Starting point is 00:34:34 the Chiefs draft Caleb Johnson. That was the second one. Sorry. Here we go. Ricky says if the Chiefs drafted Caleb Johnson out of Iowa, he's the starter. And I don't know that I agree with that. I mean, I think Pacheco probably, if the chiefs take a running back in the third round, I think Pacheco opens the year as a starter. But Johnson could be the starter by November. Could be. It would depend on how camp went, I think.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Caleb Johnson has immensely more pedigree and talent coming out of college than I think Pacheco. I guess I just look at Pacheco as a good player. He's been a good player. He's a solid running back. The Chiefs, I think the Chiefs have a good running back if he's healthy. Oh, they definitely have a good running back
Starting point is 00:35:15 if he's healthy. I mean, look, he's outperformed his draft capital and to use the pedigree word, sure, it wasn't clearly ideal when you're talking about Brock Purdy was Mr. Relevant. Well, a few picks before him was when Pacheco went in round seven in that same draft class. But he also was the fastest running back of the combine that year and had a good career at Rutgers.
Starting point is 00:35:39 And it certainly has done wonderful things for this team, despite the fact that he hasn't reached some statistical measures that I think we look at and say, okay, they're great. But He was on his way last year. I'll tell you that much those first two games were Fantastic when we were talking about him as a top-10 fantasy running back and a guy that could maybe be a top five guy I know he was on Dave's breakout list last year, you know So there was a lot to love about what Pacheco looked like in those first two games and I'm sure the Chiefs are looking At it and saying if we get that guy back, then why would we even spend a draft pick on it? And we have to fix our offensive line and
Starting point is 00:36:11 add some pieces on defense and you know, all those things. So I think the later in the draft that goes, the better it is. But yes, round three would certainly raise some red flags. Completely agree. I not just to be clear, I'm not disputing that the round three running back pick wouldn't raise red flags, but it obviously would raise red flags in all four of those situations. So I was just trying to figure out which one we thought had the chance to to really be James Connor, right? Like, let's just
Starting point is 00:36:35 think about they draft Trey Benson was round three, they picked him, right? Benson, or was it two, therefore, yeah, I think we should clarify, we can talk about Pacheco being a good back. None of these guys are James Connor. I'm not willing to say that about Pacheco. As a pass catcher, you're probably right. But as a rusher, I don't know, I think Pacheco is pretty good. But he's also you know, if the
Starting point is 00:36:55 Chiefs have a great offensive season, you got the lead running back for the Chiefs could be could be a great pick. I guess I guess I like Pacheco. I guess you're a big Pacheco guy. I think it's also, again, you know, while it's a loaded class, you know, to go back to Heath's, you know, scenario of being the tenth running back in this class, like, are we talking about running backs 7, 8, 9, and 10 in the third round? Right.
Starting point is 00:37:18 Or are we talking about, you know, we could sit here and say, yes, there's a– this is a very talented class. And there's going to be some teams that are going to play roulette with this and say, okay, who's going to fall to round three, who's going to fall around four and take other players in round two. Like the most likely are two guys going in the first round, right? At best I would think, you know, just how teams operate. Gent is going to first round for sure. Hampton seems like he's going to go in the first round as well. And then it's just how many of these guys go in round two. You know, typically we see three or four going around to right. I don't know the number. I'm just off top of my head.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Sounds great. Yeah, that sounds... I don't know. I went into a good class and you know, this is a pretty special one. But again, as the depth is so good with this class, you know, how many teams are going to say, okay, Henderson versus Caleb Johnson, another different players, but you know, just in terms of how they view those guys for, you know, whichever two you want to throw out there,
Starting point is 00:38:12 we don't need to draft them here. We're going to get them in round three. We don't need to draft them around three. We're going to get them around four, you know? And so then how much do we view the sliding scale of based on the talent to the situation that they're walking into and how much does that impact the veteran? And I will say like I had Jacob Gibbs on for this part two of the running back preview. And I don't know if anybody is excited about the running backs outside of the top five as he is. He loves-
Starting point is 00:38:35 I'm pretty sure tomorrow he does. I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure he will as well. Yes. But like RJ Harvey, he's got so many of those. He got Dylan Sampson. Sure. So it might be that RB9 or 10 is actually RB5
Starting point is 00:38:49 and we just have the order wrong. Maybe. Okay, so we'll got to move on here from running backs. We'll get to wide receivers. By the way, it looks like I can get a Pacheco Jersey for about 75 bucks. So that's a little bit too much for me. You might want to wait just a few days.
Starting point is 00:39:03 Yeah. Right. There you go. That'd be $7.5. There are other running backs that Dave listed. We can't get into it, but Ramon, Dre, Stevenson, the commander's running backs, Jerome for the Broncos guys, Javante Williams on Dallas. Now guys entering contract years, Breeze Hall, James Cook, Kyron Williams, Ken, Kenneth Walker, Derek Henry, Isaiah Pacheco, Jaylen Warren, Nadja Harris, and drives the engine. I have a room for it.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Okay. All right. We we're gonna take a break and talk about wide receivers when we come back on Fantasy Football Today. So who's the wide receiver that could see his value affected one way or the other the most by the NFL draft? Jerry Dutty. I mean, they can see the jury. The jury is the name that we kind of gravitate to
Starting point is 00:39:42 because Travis Hunter is going to Cleveland, or at least that's what we think. We don't know where McMillan's going. If he goes to Las Vegas, that's obviously going to impact Jacobi Myers. If he were to go to New Orleans, that's going to impact a lot of it. Carolina would impact those Panthers guys, but there are teams up and down the round that could use a good wide receiver to further their passing game. The difference obviously is we don't think that there are five, six, seven, eight wide receivers in this class that could just come in and be number ones right away where there are that at running back.
Starting point is 00:40:19 There's a lot of potential number two wide receivers in this class, but not as many potential number ones. Hey, we got to talk about Calvin Ridley here. Right. Calvin Ridley is probably going to get Cam Ward. He's Cam Ward's favorite receiver in the NFL ever. So how big of a boost is that going to be? Can we show one Calvin Ridley screenshot? Look how bad he is in this picture. He's wide open. And I think it was Will Levis does not throw it to him. He's like, come on, throw me the damn ball. I did watch some Calvin Ridley routes today. I still think he's got some juice left.
Starting point is 00:40:54 He's kind of a savvy route runner. He was 22nd on ESPN's open metric. So he can still get open. He can still run by guys, but we need to see a lower A dot. A dot was like 15 yards or something too high. Maybe it's 13. I think it was 15 too high. But anyway, yeah, like we're we're We draw some of those older wide receivers that we're going to be worried about this year. He's kind of turned 31 during the season. That is true. And he's got look Calvin Ridley has two straight seasons with 17 games played and a little bit more than 1000 receiving yards. It's
Starting point is 00:41:27 pretty disappointing. So what do we think how big of an upgrade is cam ward and how good could Calvin Ridley be Dave? I think it could be very good if the Titans don't do a ton else at wide receiver but it would surprise me if they didn't draft at least one more pass catcher to go along with Ridley. He can't go into the season with Traylen Burks as your number two receiver. He might not even be healthy by the time we get to week one. Ridley, you said it. He still has some juice in his legs. He's still a good target earner. I think they do have to reconfigure his role. He can get open still. And with this quarterback, Cam Ward,
Starting point is 00:42:06 one of his strengths is keeping plays alive and looking downfield and finding open guys that you can't believe he finds 20 plus yards open downfield. And that could be really, he can really benefit from those scramble plays on top of all the plays that are designed for them. And if they don't add anybody, like if they don't spend their second round pick on, um, you know, Jayden Higgins or, you know, some, some of these other top shelf type of wide receivers, even though it's a down year for wide receiver, uh, there's a path for him to see seven and a half targets per game for Ridley and with cam ward thrown to him and said, it will Levis. It's a better decision maker.
Starting point is 00:42:45 It's not necessarily a stronger arm, but a more accurate arm and someone who can find Calvin Ridley three, four seconds after the ball's been snapped and could lead to a first down off schedule. I like it a lot for Ridley. I, I'm just going to read you three numbers, Adam, and you tell me what these three numbers are. you three numbers Adam and you tell me what these three numbers are. 208.3, 208.3, 179.8, 214.2. My weights when I was in middle school.
Starting point is 00:43:18 His fantasy points in his last three full seasons. Those are the last three quarterbacks passing yards per game that were drafted number one overall. Oh, who are they? I do not think you should expect Cam Ward to be a general, there's been good rookies recently, but generally speaking, rookie quarterbacks are not good. Yeah. Who are they?
Starting point is 00:43:43 They're not going to get past catch. Who are the pass catchers? If you're taking the optimistic view for Ridley, you're hoping for Cortland Sutton and Terry McLaurin. I mean, you know what? Those two veteran guys were with rookie quarterbacks last year, you know? And so the draft capital for Ridley will be fantastic, whether he hits or not.
Starting point is 00:43:59 You're not spending a huge, not spending a significant draft pick on him, you know, for what the upside could be. And it's hard to expect them to be dramatically worse than what he was last year, you know, with Will Levis. So I think you just treat him as a number three receiver. And if he hits, he could be a top 20 guy. I don't think he's going to be a top 10 guy, but you know, you're hoping that he can find the end zone seven, eight times. You know, I think that's somewhat hopeful, but realistic. You're hoping for him to be 1100 yards, you know, probably on a good year and 75 plus catches. I don't think that's good to ask, especially looking at what this receiving point looks like.
Starting point is 00:44:32 Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're drafting Ridley in round six or seven and he gets you 14 PPR points per game, you'd be thrilled with that. That's a good return. You want. That's what DJ Moore had with Caleb Williams last year. So let's see. Three nine nine four divided by 17 K. So Jayden Daniels actually, I know he's not the number one pick. Jayden Daniels actually averaged 235 passing yards per game. If you remove two games, you just, yeah, it is. But then you got it. You look, he barely played in week 18 and he left, no, it was, what was it?
Starting point is 00:45:06 It was the Eagles game? No, that was hurts, got hurt. It was week 18 and it was that one game where Mario, the Panthers game. He averaged in his healthy games, 234. Well, I mean, throw in the rib injury too, like, you know. 235 passing yards per game. Bonix, 222 passing yards per game.
Starting point is 00:45:21 I think Cam Warr could maybe get to that. That's what, that's a... And if there's a high concentration of targets for Ridley, then Ridley will get the majority of those 222 yards. All right, so he might get a third of them. Well, let me just give you the number 130, because Dave, you said seven and a half targets per game. That's 127 targets.
Starting point is 00:45:43 So Ridley, let's give him 130 targets. That is what he was on pace for after DeAndre Hopkins was traded. And he had 80 catches or his pace, his pace in 11 games without Hopkins was 80 catches, 1,289 yards. It's a lot, only five touchdowns on 130 targets. In that stretch, Calvin Ridley was the number 30
Starting point is 00:46:04 wide receiver per game in full PPR, 26 per game and half PPR. And actually the Tennessee quarterbacks were on were actually on pace for over 4000 passing yards, which I don't think Ken Ward will do with 25 touchdowns, 20 interceptions. That was their pace. Do we think, what do we think of that? What do we think of 30th overall per game? 30th per game. Right about the spot you should be drafting him. So next question.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Cam Ward of the Titans, Travis Hunter to the Browns. Which wide receiver you taking first? Well, of the three, Ridley, Hunter, Judy. Flacco as a starter? They draft Jackson Dart in the day two or something. So that changes things for me. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:51 I'm probably just going weirdly either way, but like there's too many moving parts. Who's the starter for the Browns? What is the team talking about? Where Hunter is going to play? Where does Hunter actually play? Browns don't take a quarterback and we find out Hunter spending 70% of his time at wide receiver. I'm taking Hunter. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:09 Okay. So who, who else should we talk about here? What do you think about lad McConkey? Be I think they either they draft a tight end, or they draft a wide receiver in the first two rounds. What do you think about McConkey? Do you downgrade him? I don't really care what they do in the draft. I just don't want them to resign Keenan Allen. Yeah, that would be the worst case. Tight end, no.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Receiver round one, I'd be a little concerned. Here's a hypothetical. The Raiders draft Ashton Gentry. Does that affect Bowers or Myers in any significant way? I believe before you answer, I believe the Raiders had the fewest running back carries in football last year. They did have the fourth most pass attempts.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Uh I would not move Bowers from Titan one. No. And I don't think Myers that moves the needle for him either way. Okay. Myers definitely is a concern if they draft a receiver. When you're talking about what his pedigree is. The Jets drafts Chaudhry Sanders, where they have the seventh pick, eighth pick. They obviously have Justin Fields. They draft Chaudhry Sanders. This is do anything to Garrett Wilson. have the seventh pick eighth pick. The opposite seven. They have a save Justin Fields. They draft Chedur Sanders. This is do anything to Garrett Wilson.
Starting point is 00:48:32 It makes me happier with Garrett Wilson. I don't know if I would move him up my rankings unless we knew that Chedur adapted to the Jets offense quickly and was gonna start for them week one. That's what it really would take for Garrett Wilson to go back to being like a top 36 type player overall. Okay. Anything else guys?
Starting point is 00:48:54 Anything else? Wide receivers? The 49ers are interesting. Yeah. Yeah, there's a lot. 49ers. Okay. What's the scenario that's interesting to you?
Starting point is 00:49:08 They take a wide receiver in the first two rounds. And what does that mean for Jennings and Pearson? And Iuk. Yeah, I'm just kind of assuming that Iuk's not going to matter until like week 10. Boy, I would really hate for them to do that, to draft a wide receiver in the first two rounds. That would bother me. Although I do think rookie wide receivers don't really tend to have a huge impact in
Starting point is 00:49:35 Kyle Shanahan offenses. It takes a little while for them. It does. But there are a lot of receivers that kind of fit what they look for. You know, shifty, shifty types of receivers with good hands. It could be somebody as early as Ibuka. If they really fall in love with Ibuka in round one, burden could be, we talked about burden and compared them to Debo Samuel a ton. What if they just get burdened to replace Debo? That kind of makes some sense. But then you, you go down the line.
Starting point is 00:50:07 There's a bunch of other Royals, no. Um, who else is on this list? That's that's real shifty. Kyle Williams, maybe like there are guys, Jalen lane, if we're going to go a little bit deeper, there are guys that they draft who can. Yeah. Run the slant and get open on timing patterns that fit their offense perfectly. And Jennings is a free agent to be.
Starting point is 00:50:28 Ayuk is on the shelf. We have no idea what he'll be when he comes back. This is a team that could use another wide receiver for sure. It just seems weird though with what they got rid of and the things that they were saying at the meetings, you know, about they spent all this money on their defensive line the last two years and they've had to get rid of all those guys. They need linebacker help. They need offensive line help. Like receiver is somewhat of a luxury for them. Yes, they could certainly add another one there, but like, right after
Starting point is 00:50:57 paying IU, can paying Jennings and drafting Pierce all like, I don't know. It'd be surprising if they, if they spent early capital on it. Were you surprised when they took Piersol last year? Well, you could see the writing on the wall. I mean, knowing that the, you know, Debo's getting older and his contract situation being what it was. And at that point, remember,
Starting point is 00:51:16 Ayuk was going into what they thought was gonna be a holdout, which it was. So they didn't know what was happening there. So yes, it didn't surprise me at all that they drafted a wide receiver. That high, yes, that surprised me, but drafting a receiver early, no. Okay. That's fair. I don't think there's as much urgency as there was last year, but
Starting point is 00:51:33 there's still some urgency. They've got two third-rounders, two fourth-rounders. They'll get one wide receiver before the end of round four. It's also, again, not a great class. So do they play out the string of Jennings with his contract and go into next year with the hope of maybe hitting on somebody that could be a little bit more significant? I would say if the 49ers take a wide receiver in round three or four, or both even, it would not do anything for me personally. For I wouldn't worry anything past round one, to be honest, It would not do anything for me personally.
Starting point is 00:52:06 For- I wouldn't worry anything past round one to be honest. On that team. Quite possible. And I'll get into this more, I'll update my research, but basically, you know, I don't expect much from wide receivers drafted late round two or later. There are definitely going to be exceptions, I get that. Early round two, you still get some really good receivers.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Late round two, just as rookies, just as rookies. You don't get a huge impact typically from guys like that. So, just something to keep in mind. All right, tight ends. Is there a tight end that is more to lose than David Njoku? Because they had a receiver or tight end? Yeah, because they had a receiver.
Starting point is 00:52:44 Oh, I see I don't know about that though. I mean, you're still talking about a team. If it's Hunter, like Joe Flacco was awesome with Ninjoko. Yeah, but he didn't have Jerry Judy. He didn't have Cedric Domen. He had a Marty Cooper who was- He didn't have Travis Hunter. No, it was Prime.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Yeah, he did. No, you're right. It was great. He was on, wasn't he on like a 5,000 yard pace or something? It was insane. Flacco? Yeah, flacco. Yeah, he was nuts. Yeah, but if Hunter's gonna hurt Judy,
Starting point is 00:53:16 why wouldn't he hurt Nijoku? Oh, he's gonna hurt him, but I mean, you say most to lose. Who do you think has more to lose than Nijoku? I don't know if I've given it as much thought as you probably were. Jake Ferguson? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Yeah. He's in a year or two, I believe. Yeah. He's going to be, he could be useless because the Cowboys could definitely take, you know, Matthew golden in round one or something like that. I think all the teams that have been mocked tight ends from the mock draft experts are kind of thin at that position anyway. I've heard about the Dolphins getting Colson Loveland, for example, and upgrading there over John U. Smith, but I don't see that's almost like a
Starting point is 00:54:02 luxury item again. I wouldn't see the see the dolphins with all the needs they have spending that type of draft capital on a position that really was not big for them at all until last year. So like it's gonna be a team. There's two tight ends that are gonna go in round one. They're gonna be the teams that are desperate for a playmaker at that position. They're both playing, Tyler Warren's a playmaker, Colson Loveland's a playmaker. Those guys are going to end up
Starting point is 00:54:27 being very good and the teams that draft them are going to utilize them as such. They'll impact wide receivers more than tight ends. And I think if you see like Mason Taylor, for example, go somewhere, like it could be a Ben Sennett situation where you know there's plenty of talent, but he could be behind somebody who's still a contributor. You know that a team views as they're not going to necessarily move away from them or he doesn't prove himself to be as good as the guy in front of him. So yeah, so in my mind, yeah, in my mind, when I asked this question, which tight ends have the most to lose if a team drafts another tight end. Okay, obviously, that's a huge, that's an issue. Like Michael Mayer, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:08 Brock Bowers, I'm thinking they draft a wide receiver. Or are they or maybe it's Chigokan Kuo, you know, getting cam ward or something like that. I don't know. But I was just thinking, tight ends probably not going to be too too affected. But in a joke who comes to mind, and I think Ferguson's a great call as well. Is there anything that could happen for the rate? Like if the Raiders draft McMillan, is that going to, is that going to downgrade Bowers in any way?
Starting point is 00:55:34 Not significantly. It's target competition, obviously. So you'd be a little worried, but I don't know if it's enough to move them to number two. Like Keith said, I think Bowers would still be number one. Like the, there are a lot of older tight ends that are entering a contract here who could get the Senate situation. You mentioned Andrews, Goddard's in a contract here, Ferguson's in a contract here, Njoku's in a contract here, Janu, Kittle? Could it be possible? That then cow pits is in a contract here as well. What is possible? What are you asking about? Kittle? Is it possible that the 49ers
Starting point is 00:56:15 draft the heir apparent to George Kittle? Sure, but it's not going to change our George Kittle outlook at all. Right. I mean, if they take Tyler Warren, maybe but if they take a tight end and anytime other than an elite tight end in the first round, round, yeah, no one's taking George Kittle off the field. Right? No, no one puts baby in a corner. Exactly. Heath, what movie is that from? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:56:43 Dirty Dancing. you ever seen it? Unfortunately. It's great, it's really good. Really awful. No, it's a really good movie. Really awful. Dave, you know it's good. It's good, I wouldn't say it
Starting point is 00:56:56 with the same enthusiasm you did. I would say, honestly, you know, there are those movies where you grew up watching and you liked them, then you watched them later and you realized they're not good, like Top Gun, worst movie in the world. Dirty Dancing is a movie I hadn't, I didn't see until, I don't know, the last five years or so. It's actually pretty good movie. Very good. You've seen it twice? No, I've seen it's always on TV. So now I've seen it, you know, 10 times. So you've seen Dirty Dancing 10 times with the Sopranos Zero. Correct yeah. You've invested 20 hours of your life. Well you know it's not in the background it's one of those it's out of the background movies.
Starting point is 00:57:33 Hungry Eyes. You're dancing along with the movie aren't you? Have you seen um. When you're dancing you're definitely the one that gets lifted up right. What's the Steve Carell- He knows at least that much about it. The Steve Carell, Ryan Gosling movie, Crazy Stupid Love, you've seen that? No. That's a good movie.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Oh, that is a great movie. That is truly great, great movie. I highly recommend it, but they do have a Dirty Dancing reference in that movie. Yes, nobody puts A's really important, thank you, Johnny. Thank you. All right, we are. I'm gonna have to get out of here.
Starting point is 00:58:07 I'm gonna have to spend this time. We are outta here. We will talk to you tomorrow with Emory Hunt reviewing the running back. Thanks, until then, have a great game. See ya. Bye.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.