Fantasy Football Today - Trade Talk, Best/Worst Schedules, BAL-MIA Preview, Fantasy Jeopardy! (10/29 Fantay Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 29, 2025

Which running backs could be league winners in the second half? Rico Dowdle? Bucky Irving? Trey Benson? After that discussion we give you your news and notes (8:40) and some Buy Low candidates (13:00)... including A.J. Brown and Zay Flowers ... Who should you be selling high on (26:40)? What is Saquon Barkley's value? How about Travis Kelce's value? We then preview Ravens-Dolphins (40:35) ... More trade talk (47:50) with a look at some easy and difficult rest of season schedules plus what to make of Quinshon Judkins and Tucker Kraft. And we finish with some Fantasy Jeopardy (58:00)! ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 With Instacart, you get groceries that over-deliver, so you can over-share your preferences. Want russet potatoes with no brown spots? You got it. Want turnips that look light, but feel heavy? Easy. Want honey-crisp apples that are firm, green, and definitely not Macintosh like last year when you lost the fall bake-off to perfect Penelope Johnson? Okay, a bit TMI, but we're here for it.
Starting point is 00:00:21 So download the app today and get $0 delivery fees on your first three orders. Instacart, groceries that over-deliver. Service fees, exclusions, and terms apply. This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? It's a no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league.
Starting point is 00:00:42 This is going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. All right, everybody, what's going on? Welcome to the show. It is Wednesday, October 29th, and this is fantasy football today, presented by BetMGM. Make it legendary. We are into the second half of the fantasy season. Who is going to have that big second half?
Starting point is 00:01:04 Who's going to bust out and win you your fantasy leagues? We're also going to preview Thursday night football, Miami, and Baltimore. And we're going to play a game today. One of our fantasy game shows, which one do you think it's going to be? Which one do you want it to be, guys? Dave, pick a game that you'd want it to be. The fastest, most painless one that we've got. Who has more?
Starting point is 00:01:25 It is not that. It's not that. Heath, how about you? You're usually good at these game shows? I'll play any game, whatever game. Jamie, you have a preference? Name that player. It is Fantasy Jeopardy.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I love Fantasy Jeopardy. We're going to play that later on in the show. Not Who has Ty? Who has Ty? Who has Ty? Jamie and Dave don't like it when we play Who Has More? And the answer is a tie. They think it's...
Starting point is 00:01:51 Right. Yeah, I mean, I guess I see where they're coming from. All right. Anyway, Dave insisted that we start today's show with a tweet. From friend of the program, Alfredo Brown. Dave, you wanted to, just a little perspective here, right? So talk to us about this tweet, says everything can change over the final stretch of your season, even if your fantasy team is struggling.
Starting point is 00:02:11 And then it mentions the notable running backs that made huge fantasy jumps mid-season last year. Whoa, whoa, whoa. What just happened there? What happened where? Heath, what was that? It's sitting here my blue light glasses. I was just, I can't see what the screen says. It's a lot of little words.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Okay. So Dave, we're looking at it. last year's running backs who mid-season, they just went nuts in the second half. The librarian all of a sudden. I know what happened. Pete the librarian. I thought this was an interesting tweet
Starting point is 00:02:40 and a great way to kind of think about the second half of the season. And I tried to maybe identify a couple players that could be second-half studs. And really the whole key to it for most of the players on this list that Alfred have sent out, it's Bucky Irving, Chase Brown, Riko Dowdell, Devon A-chan's on this list too. But for those first three names,
Starting point is 00:02:58 they got opportunities. They had their chances, and they did very, very well with them. And they helped people make fantasy playoffs, advance in the fantasy playoffs, maybe won your fantasy league because of these running backs. And it's not just running backs either. But I thought it's interesting if you take a moment, go through your rosters and look at the players who could have a big second half or look on your benches or maybe even your opponent's benches
Starting point is 00:03:22 and maybe look for a couple players, oh, maybe they'll get an opportunity in the second half. and those would be players that I'd want to have on my team. And I think two of these guys, well, actually, obviously A. Chan, people are going to assume he's going to be really good. But the other three guys on this list, they could repeat, you know, Bucky Irving, Jamie, I think one of you had him as a by-low. Was it you, Jamie? Yeah, like, Bucky Irving. This team just produces fantasy points at the running back position.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Chase Brown, I don't know how you guys feel about Chase Brown. The last two games have obviously been encouraging. And then Rico Dowdell, we assume he's going to get more work. I don't love his schedule, and they don't throw to their running backs as much as we'd like. But this is just a funny list because Bucky Irving, Chase Brown, and Rico Dowell have a chance to, Jamie, you can talk about Irving here. They have a chance to repeat what they did, you know, just in the terms of having a big second half. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:04:20 In Bucky's case, it's just getting healthy, I think. You know, so we've seen Rashad White have some good moments, obviously, you know, in the beginning part of Bucky's absence, but the hope would be coming off the by week that he's, you know, 100% and we see the best of this Tampa Bay offense minus Mike Evans. But healthy offensive line, you know, maybe a little bit more commitment to the run if they don't want to throw as much or have to be as dependent on their passing game because of some of the turnover in the receiving core. But, I mean, obviously, you know, the 2024. four numbers speak for itself what he did at the start of the season speaks for itself you know buck irving still could be a league winner this year for sure and what about doubtle Dave you kind of shook your head no in agreeance with me that he doesn't have a great schedule especially i mean if we think Tampa bay's run defense is going to be really good his week 16 and 17 games are Tampa bay and
Starting point is 00:05:12 Seattle those are two tough run defenses but yeah i mean doubtle let's say last year he was rb 15 from Weeks 9 through 17, what do you think? Over under RB15 for Dowdell? I'm going to say under a couple of factors. Number one, he's got a bottom 10 projected running back schedule. Number two, just because Dave Canales is talking about giving him more opportunities, doesn't mean he's going to get every opportunity. And it bothers me because I thought coaches were paid to win and to pay their best players
Starting point is 00:05:46 and not their team leaders or guys who are most respected in the locker room. If you can play, you play. And Rico Dowdell should have been given more opportunities two weeks ago, and it hasn't happened yet. And you mentioned the receptions thing as well for Rico Dowdell. Could you be top 24 or top 20 in the second half of the year? I could buy that. But tough schedule and everything else that's going on in Carolina makes me a little bit nervous. Offensive line makes me a little bit nervous, too.
Starting point is 00:06:10 I think the famous saying that nobody knows who first said it is that history doesn't repeat itself, but it often rhymes. Like, I don't know that this tweet is so much about these four guys, right, 100% as it is about, like, which guys are going to be these guys this year. Oh, you know, I just thought it was interesting because they all were candidates to be this guy. But, yeah, Heath, you have Trey Benson on your by-low list as a guy that could be that, right? Yes, yes. I think, you know, you sent the text to us last night that says, let's try to avoid injured guys. for bylaws and then i think we all sent in injured guys for by loz because we don't listen to you
Starting point is 00:06:55 you're not the boss of us but they're all coming back soon uh and i do think that listen we got one week of bam night against a great matchup in the cowboys and maybe two weeks i don't think it's been confirmed for sure that trey benson's coming back but trey benson's coming back and i fully expect when he's back he's going to get north of 15 touches a game possibly 18 touches per game and And there's some difficult matchups on the schedule. There's some good matchups on the schedule, but he could absolutely be a top 15 running back during the fantasy playoffs and maybe from week 12 on.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Yeah, there are actually a lot of tough matchups for Benson, but the good thing is the catches, right? And the Cardinals running backs are sixth in targets per game. They're 25th in carries per game, but they're sixth in targets per game. Tampa Bay running backs are eighth in carries per game and 11th in targets per game. game. That's really good. That's a great combination there. But Arizona, I think it's awesome when you have a team that throws the running backs as much.
Starting point is 00:07:56 It makes them a little bit, especially in full PPR, a little bit more matchup proof. All right, so we'll get into some more of those guys a little bit later. Here are your news and notes. Jaden Daniels is going to practice today. They get Seattle on Sunday night. I really hope we don't go into Sunday wondering if Jaden Daniels is going to play, but it's trending in the right direction at least.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Jamie Isaiah Pacheco's week to week with a knee injury. They have Buffalo this week. That's a great matchup. And then they have a buy. So how eager were you to look for Kareem Hunt and or Breschard Smith last night after we heard the news? In the leagues that I play that run on Tuesday, there was, neither one was available. So I didn't have to worry about that. I look at Hunt as a low-end RB2 high-end flex for this week. And Smith has a flex.
Starting point is 00:08:43 You mentioned it. It's a Bill's run defense that has struggled. We've seen Kareem Hunt, you know, be very good at 5. finding the end zone. And so with an uptick and touches, you know, he just becomes that much more attractive as a fantasy option. And you talked about this yesterday, you know, just what his numbers were last year when when Isaiah Pacheco was out, just the totality of it. So there's a huge opportunity here. And especially in a high scoring game, at least the expectation of high scoring game, you know, Kareem Hunt should do well. I would start Kareemone over Rico Dado
Starting point is 00:09:11 this week, for example. So I'd like the setup for him a little bit better. In the case of Breschard Smith, I think there's still some long-term appeal whether Pacheco is back in week 11 or not, you know, this is going to be an opportunity for him to continue to show his coaching staff and us, you know, if he can be a little bit more involved and take advantage of that, you know, so we saw the one game two weeks ago where he was killing the clock and, you know, it wasn't overly impressive, but he was doing it with backups. And then he's been involved in the passing game, you know, prior to last week, he had three catches and four games in a row. So, again, any uptick in playing time gives an opportunity and gives the chief now an opportunity
Starting point is 00:09:47 to say, okay, if they really think Isaiah Pacheco has been struggling, they can make a change. Okay. By the way, I'm looking at some waiver claims here in the FFT Open leagues. Tyrone Tracy going for $50 or more dollars pretty regularly in the leagues he was available in. So be prepared to pony up for him. Okay, more news and notes. Lamar Jackson, I was reading this last night. Lamar Jackson, after their loss to the Chiefs in week four, he had the,
Starting point is 00:10:17 ping pong table, the video games, the cornhole boards, the pinball machine, the basketball hoop, all removed from the Ravens locker room. It was him? That's what it said. He said he had it removed. He told the equipment manager, got to get rid
Starting point is 00:10:33 maybe a little drastic here. Not, maybe I would be a little upset. No work, no play. It's not like they went out and won after that. Of course, he wasn't playing, but he's expected to play this week. The Saints are starting Tyler Shuck and Adam Schaeffter thinks
Starting point is 00:10:49 at least one Saints wide receiver will be traded and his guess is Rashid Shahid would interest most teams. Heath, thoughts on the Saints passing game with Tyler Shuck. They're at the Rams this week. I don't think we have much reason to be confident
Starting point is 00:11:04 in whether Tyler Shuck will be better or worse than Spencer Rattler. I think it's a small downgrade most likely for Chris Olave. And a potential research for Joanne Johnson, who had like a 19% target share on Tyler Shuck's throws. Rashid Shaheed was up as well.
Starting point is 00:11:27 But for the most part, I think it's probably going to be a little bit worse. Okay. And the Patriots made two trades yesterday. They traded safety Kyle Dugger to Pittsburgh. They traded defensive N. Kian White to San Francisco. So Pittsburgh needs safety help. San Francisco really needs defensive line help. Malik neighbors had surgery on his torn ACL finally.
Starting point is 00:11:51 The Cardinals did in fact re-sign Michael Carter. Denver does not plan to put Paschartan on IR and the Jets safety, Andre Sisko, tore his peck. Sunday morning we'll be answering your questions at 11 a.m. Eastern until 1 p.m. Eastern, so please join us at YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. Sunday morning for two hours, 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. Join us live. Ask your questions. Don't get mad when I don't read them. because I have like a thousand questions coming through, but I will do it my best.
Starting point is 00:12:20 You can still get bad. Okay, fine, you can get mad. That's fine. All right, let's go to our by-low. See, if you talked about Trey Benson, how about Zay Flowers, who had eight or more targets and 14.4 or more PPR fantasy points
Starting point is 00:12:32 in three of four games with Lamar Jackson, only with one touchdown in those four games, but you want to buy low on Zay Flowers. He's got a 30, one of four players this year with a target share over 30%. He's been, you know, a wide receiver three without Lamar Jackson, whether it was Cooper Rush or Tyler Huntley, maybe a little bit worse than that a couple of weeks. I think you're getting a top
Starting point is 00:12:56 20 wide receiver rest of season with Lamar Jackson. Go see if you can get Zay Flowers. You like Trey Benson or Zay Flowers? He was your other Bailow. Who would you be more inclined to buy low on? I am more excited about Zay Flowers. I'm going to look at the most traded list that I'm going to compare Flowers to some of the guys on the most traded list. How about Chase Brown or Zay Flowers? I'd take Zayflowers. Travis E.N. or Zayflowers? I'd take Zay Flowers.
Starting point is 00:13:24 A.J. Brown or Zay Flowers? I would rather have A.J. Brown. I think the one exception to that would be if I was one of those three and five to five and three teams and need to start winning right now, then you might have to prefer flowers. All right. Well, I'm going to talk to you about Bette, M. real quick is you've got to bring that playoff energy to your pro football bets all season long. This pro football boost pack gives you three ways to boost your payout on a winning bet. Just log into your bet MGM account to receive your boost pack and then place any pro football
Starting point is 00:14:01 bet and apply one of the tokens. Make sure to bet up to the minimum stake odds and legs specified on the token. If your boosted bet hits, you'll score a bigger payout. From opening kickoffs to game winning drives, this pro football boost pack is your ticket to unforgettable moments this season. Don't wait on the sidelines. Join the action with BetMGM. All right.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Let's go to Dave's Bilos. And they are coming up right after this commercial break. Oh, what a tease. We'll be right back on fantasy football today. Sorry for that, Dave. Sorry to. Oh, I dug it. I thought it was really awesome.
Starting point is 00:14:38 Making people wait a little bit longer to hear two bylaws. Two Bylos. Garrett Wilson and Brian Thomas Jr. Go. So with Garrett Wilson, he should be coming back from his injury soon. Before the injury, his first five games, he averaged 9.6 targets per game, 19 PPR points per game. Let's not lose side of that. Remember, Justin Fields was his quarterback for most of those games. It's still a dicey quarterback situation in New York. I think everybody is going to have to accept that. And the projected schedule is tough, too, but those are the knocks against
Starting point is 00:15:13 we know that he's capable of being a number one top 12 type of wide receiver in full PPR and pretty close to that too even in half PPR and maybe not quite that high in non-PPR but still pretty good still pretty good so you can still buy them at a discount going into the buy week no one's starting them this week if you can find another receiver to take his place for hopefully just one more week I think the price tag is still relatively low enough where you can get some good value out of it in a deal I do think, yeah, I mean, I think the schedule is worth noting, though, for Garrett Wilson. Cleveland.
Starting point is 00:15:47 No, it's not easy, but that's okay. Like, he's still going to get a ton of targets. Yeah. Okay. I don't know how tough Cleveland is. I mean, it's not like they're shutting down great receivers every week. They're 18th against wide receivers. New England is tough.
Starting point is 00:15:59 Baltimore, we're not really sure. Atlanta's tough. Miami's tough. But he, Miami, I know that sounds crazy. They give the few his fantasy points to wide receivers. He did score 20 fantasy points against them, though. He had a late touchdown in that game. Right.
Starting point is 00:16:12 All right. Now, I'm curious about Brian Thomas Jr. because I'm a little nervous about him. And because of the Travis Hunter thing, right? There's a buzz about Travis Hunter, ESPN reporter saying that he might get the wide receiver one treatment. Thomas hasn't really been that good. He's one of the worst wide receivers in the NFL in terms of fantasy points per target with a minimum of 30 targets. So why is Brian Thomas Jr. a bylaw? Because this is the cheapest that you've ever been able to get this guy. And I am not. saying that he's about to become the dynamo that he was in the second half of last season. But I think he can still be a really good wide receiver three, maybe touch the top 24 at wide receiver from this point forward in Jacksonville. I kind of am curious about how this offense is going to look coming out of the buy and how Travis Hunter will be involved and he'll get a bunch of targets. And does that change how defenses play these guys?
Starting point is 00:17:08 Could it mean more one-on-one opportunities downfield for Brian Thomas Jr.? I think the days of him getting double-digit targets are gone, but the days of him still being efficient enough to use in fantasy could still be here. So no one should expect to get a lot for Brian Thomas Jr. at this point. We've all seen him. He's not even a top 24 receiver on the trade chart, but he is a top 30 receiver. And if that's the value that you're paying to get him, I don't mind taking the chance on him. And I do think Jacksonville is going to be one of those teams that throws a lot in the second half. And it's not all drops, but a lot of its drops. He has more drops in seven games this year than he had all of his rookie season and as a rule
Starting point is 00:17:45 drops are not that predictive like drops don't generally lead to more drops he's probably going to catch a higher percentage of his targets next year this this week if you uh if you were to expand alfredo's tweet and put wide receivers on there this was brian thomas as well he uh closed the season last year on a tear and it all coincided right after their buy as well so they had a late buy last year just went looked at it so they had a week 12 by but he closed the season as we know as a monster you know yeah so a mac jones monster and i don't think we should rule that out again like when a guy's a first round pick and has a rookie year like he did i don't think we should just say because of a bad seven games he can't
Starting point is 00:18:29 be that guy again i think right but he could absolutely be that guy again he could but i don't think that that's part of the thinking here like sure that's some of the upside that could be in the back of your mind. But what I'd be worried about is if now if I'm trying to acquire Brian Thomas Jr., the manager that already has him, A, they've already invested a lot in him because they spent a top 15 pick to get him.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And B, they're going to say, well, he could still do it. He could still be a big time receiver. It might make it harder to acquire him. If there's any type of static acquiring Brian Thomas Jr. in a trade, walk away. Don't give up more than you should. Use the trade chart.
Starting point is 00:19:07 And again, he's not, he shouldn't be viewed as one of the top 25 receivers in fantasy at this point. He does have a good projected schedule the rest of the way. Okay. Would you guys prefer Zay Flowers or Brian Thomas Jr.? Flowers? Flowers.
Starting point is 00:19:21 But I would also expect to pay more for flowers. All right. I mean, I feel like, I feel like Brian, I feel like there could be a manager in the league that thinks Brian Thomas Jr. is awesome
Starting point is 00:19:32 and you might be able to, and maybe they'd be right. Everyone should think Brian Thomas Jr. is awesome and has the potential to be awesome. But Dave's right, you shouldn't overpay for that. Like, you know, when you're buying low on him, you're buying low with the hope that he gets back there. You know, I mean, you go back to what's changed from last year. It's almost everything.
Starting point is 00:19:49 It's new coach. It's different quarterback. It's added receivers and weapons. It's just everything is different for him right now. So, you know, you want to see him elevate above that and play like that player we saw last year. Yeah. And hopefully the buy week, you know, hit the reset button. you know, Jacksonville goes back and retool some things and, you know, and it might be to your point, Adam, that it's, it's Travis Hunter that benefits more so than, than Brian Thomas from the ESPN report, you know, so it could be a situation where we're looking at the wrong Jaguars player to buy low on, but I would hope that, as he alluded to, first round talent showed us what he can do. You want to see if you can get that, but at the right cost.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Yeah, I understand. Last year, though, like this year he's got maybe Travis Hunter. are potentially taking targets away. Last year, his breakout coincided also with Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram getting hurt. And I don't want to discount what he did. It was amazing. But the situations are different. However, I'm not sure if we mentioned the wrist yet. I'm hoping that he's healthier now with a week off, you know, with that.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Because I think we've seen the alligator arms. It feels like he's been shying away from contact. Maybe the wrist is healthier after the buy, and we can get some good stuff from Brian Thomas Jr. But the important thing is we're valuing him as basically a number two, three, wide receiver, you know, good, but not going to be, not say it can't be, but we're not saying to trade for him as if Brian Thomas Jr. is going to win you your league. All right. Jamie, you got Bucky Irving, who we talked about, and A.J. Brown as a by-low. I think that I love A.J. Brown's
Starting point is 00:21:23 schedule because they're playing some really good offenses. I don't think they're going to just be able to run the ball the whole game. Because when they've thrown a lot, it's been in their two losses and the come from behind win against the Rams. Slightly deceiving because the one, loss to the Broncos, they were up big in the fourth quarter. But my issue, Jamie, is I just don't know about this injury, right? If it's the same injury he had in the preseason, how do we balance the potential for Brown going forward with this injury? I mean, the report going into their buy week was that he was going to be ready after the buy. So you hope that you're getting somebody who's healthy and was getting targets when they were throwing and when they weren't throwing. So, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:01 you want to buy into what was a first round caliber player, second round caliber player, you know, someone that still has upside. It's a very similar situation to Brian Thomas, but at least we've seen some productive games from AJ Brown, at least a little bit more consistently than Thomas. So again, you know, you're trying to, I'm going to probably do this until the by weeks are done. You're trying to find players who are on their by from managers that are hoping to still make a playoff run, but can't use what has been, or in the case of AJ Brown, what you still hope can be a player who you think can be productive for you. So you're taking advantage of those situations. And so, you know, you look at the AJ Brown manager that's hovering around
Starting point is 00:22:37 500, maybe a game below, that's still clinging to playoff hopes and trying to give them something to help them now. And you try to get that player for a stretch run. Jamie said something that made me think a little fantasy copse interlude here. Are we preventing, we talk a lot of times about if you're out of playoff contention, don't make trades. Yeah. There we go. Are we preventing any team from making trades after eight weeks? I don't think you prevent team. I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:08 0 and 8 is probably something that you question if it's a lopsided deal. And obviously if it's a redraft. You know, like I look. We're redraft only. Well, Dynasty, you don't prevent anybody from making trades.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Of course not. Right. So I looked in and, and our auctionally, you and I are playing each other, Heath, we're both two and six. It's an epic battle. Epic battle.
Starting point is 00:23:29 And so I don't think we're technically out of it yet. not even close but one and seven but that's what I'm saying like you have to go with a little bit of sliding scale as you as your prize I think if it's if somebody is giving away AJ Brown for you know to marry Dike like that's
Starting point is 00:23:47 questionable yeah I don't know that I've ever seen a we'll say what there's 14 there's 14 weeks in the regular season in fantasy most fantasy leagues yes I'm not sure I've ever seen a six and eight team make the playoffs maybe it's happened so if you're oh and eight oh yes I've definitely seen a six All right.
Starting point is 00:24:03 If you've seen a 6 and 18 make the playoffs, then I'm not vetoing any trades based on record at this point. Well, especially if you count total points. Yeah, exactly. Right. All right, guys. So, A.J. Brown had one target in week one from weeks two through 70
Starting point is 00:24:19 at a 30% target share. That's exactly what he'd said about Zay Flowers. That's a good thing for AJ Brown. Let's go to our cell highs. Jamie, you've got Arronday Gadsden as a cell high and Sequan Barkley as a cell high. in the case of gadsden obviously you're seeing a player who's doing incredible things right now in the last three weeks what have we seen from this offense for the chargers this season we've had pockets of almost everybody on this team doing great things at some point and then somewhat falling off in essence because there's so many great players and so many mouths to feed so are we going to get to that with gadsden and so i think you're just trying to maximize the player's value when it's at its height and this may be the best three-game stretch of gadsden season i hope not because you know i'm relying on them in several league to be my tight end for the rest of the year.
Starting point is 00:25:03 But I still just, you look at it like we've had the Quentin Johnston run. We've had the Keenan Allen run. We've had the McConkey run. And in the case of, you know, Alan, he's come back for one game after the downstretch. It just wouldn't shock me if we go to a little bit of a lull for Gadsden. If you can maximize his value now, why would you not do that? And Barclay finally snapped out of his slump against the Giants and now is going into a biweek so you can't play him.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Will he be the same guy coming out? of his bi-week. We know what the season's been like for him. You hope that that was a jumping off point, and obviously could be. But again, trying to maximize value for someone you cannot play this week. And could you turn Barclay, especially again, if you're hovering around 500, can you turn Barclay into maybe two or three players that could be starters for your rest of way? So, again, just trying to take advantage of whatever situation again. All right, question from the Chad is a good one. What's the return for Barclay? And if we look at the two most traded players right now in CBS Sports Leagues, number one is Derek Henry and number two
Starting point is 00:26:00 with Stake Juan Barclay. So we're looking for running backs who could, you know, we started the show talking about running backs who could have a big second half. Well, how about two of the guys that were drafted in the first round or close to the first round? Barkley and Derek Henry, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:12 we can talk about Henry if you want, but this question's more about Barclay. So he's having a disappointing season. He's averaging, I don't know, 3.3 yards per carry or something like that, going into week eight. Then he faces the Giants who are one of the worst run defenses in football
Starting point is 00:26:26 and he goes berserk. So do you think Seekwan Barclay is a top five running back rest of season? No. Do you think he is a top 10 running back rest of season? In that range. Okay, that would put him... Sorry, go ahead, Heath.
Starting point is 00:26:42 Yeah. No, I think he's like, if we could say top 12, I'd feel more confident. He's right on the cusp of top 10. If I told you that Bucky Irving were coming back next week, who would you rather have? Bucky or Barclay? Just by themselves? Yep. Right.
Starting point is 00:26:57 I'd probably still say Barclay right now. I think I would, too. but but here's there there there is one little caveat though we don't know how healthy he is bucky or barclay oh barclay which makes it's barclay we don't know how healthy is right right they're downplaying the groin like it's not a big it's a groin right i'm not i'm not crazy um yeah so they're downpulling it and it sounds like he's okay oh i mean yes i don't want to make it seem like he's hurt but we just don't know right but that would be concerning to somebody who's about to give up a lot in
Starting point is 00:27:29 trade to get Sequan Barclay on their fantasy team. Yes, but... But I think that could hurt the trade talk. You know, you're obviously taking advantage of your friends or family in this situation, but that's what you're trying to do is, you know, you're using the knowledge that you have of this is what Barclay said, this is what the team said. They downplayed it. It's tough to see him look that good and then give him away after what he did last year.
Starting point is 00:27:55 But, you know, he's got a couple tough matchups coming out. out of the buy, Green Bay and Detroit or third and fourth against running backs right now. But then the schedule is pretty good after that. But it's not about schedule for him. I mean, the line should be better. The line's getting healthier. So value him high,
Starting point is 00:28:12 but maybe this was the best we'll see of Barclay, this 33.4 fantasy point game. All right, Dave, you're saying J.K. Dobbins and Travis Kelsey are sell highs. Dobbins is coming off of a big game himself, 111 yards rushing. That's his best of the year. He had 15 carries.
Starting point is 00:28:30 That's his third highest total of the year. And he also did it in the same game where R.J. Harvey just kind of luckily found the end zone three times. And I wonder if there could be some sort of pivot, maybe not immediately. But within the next couple of weeks where Dobbins loses a little bit more work. And we've already seen the Broncos using three running backs most of their games. Anyway, tough projected schedule rest of season. He's the type of running back that I would want to pair. with another player to upgrade at the running back position.
Starting point is 00:29:04 I mean, Dobbins is having such a good year, right? He's... It's good. It's not, you know, I don't... Are we putting him in the league winner category? Sorry, let me finish. The way he's playing, he's having such a good year, right? He's running efficiently, he's on a great offense.
Starting point is 00:29:22 He's R.B. 23 per game. Ah, I should have let you finish. Right? So it's just, he could score more touch. He's averaging a touchdown every other game, right? He's got four touchdowns and eight games. I think what we're trying to say is he pretty much needs to score most weeks to be a real difference maker in fantasy. Travis Kelsey, Dave, can we just say, you know, maybe we should just keep him because he's on the Chiefs?
Starting point is 00:29:47 Well, I think he can be a top 10 tight end rest of season, but if you can trade him at a higher value than that, because he's coming off of a big game where he went up against slow linebackers and had 30. eight yards on busted coverage, then I think you should try and do that. I went back and looked, he's had 15 games with Rishi Rice. Really, ever since Rice became an established part of this Chiefs offense, that came in the middle of the 2023 season. He's had 15 or more PPR points five times. That includes last week. There was obviously the game before last week.
Starting point is 00:30:18 We were at 8.4 last year in those three games with Rishie Rice. He didn't even touch 8.4 ppr points in any of those games. I just think that he's going to disappoint more often than thrive. Maybe he can average around 12 PPR points per game. That's where he was in the first six games without Rice on the field. He probably comes in under that. And so if you can turn him into something and then go to streaming tight ends, or maybe you've got Kelsey and another tight end already because we've been talking about tight ends.
Starting point is 00:30:46 There were three tight ends that we liked off the waiver wire this week who aren't playing this week, but could end up being nearly as good as Kelsey, if not better than Kelsey. rest of the season. So if you can get, if you can get Kelsey and get something good for Kelsey while his values inflated coming off of a big game, I think you should do it. All right. I think the difficult thing about Kelsey is like all of the big concerns we had about age last year with all of his efficiency falling off of a cliff have completely reversed. The yak's backup, the touchdowns rates back up, the yards per reception, all the efficiency stats are back up.
Starting point is 00:31:26 We had this talk, and I think Jamie talked about it. He was down here in South Florida, getting back into better shape, and he's played like someone who's in better shape. It looks pretty good. Travis Kelsey or Rwande
Starting point is 00:31:41 Gadsden rest of the season. I was thinking the exact same thing. I would go Kelsey. I think Kelsey carries more value. But that you didn't... I think you get more for Kelsey than you can't forget. The question is, who would you rather have? I think just by virtue of the value, it would be Kelsey, but I think it's
Starting point is 00:31:57 close. Who's averaging more fantasy points per game? Gadsden. Well, Gadsden's had some monster games. They're back to back. I think it might be healthy because you got to factor in Gadsden's Duds at the start of the season. Gadsden's at 12.9. Kelsey's at 12.8. Who has more?
Starting point is 00:32:14 Can I add that to my Jeopardy total before the start of the game? That was for 400. Okay, so, well, you know what? If Kelsey has a good game this week, against the bills. No tight end I think is more than four targets all year against the bills. They're unbelievable against tight ends. If he has a good game this week, might just have to buy in. Heath, your sell highs, pardon me, are Dallas Goddert and
Starting point is 00:32:38 Bo Nix. And Dallas Goddard's been awesome this year in terms of producing fantasy points, but he's got three targets in his last two games. We expect AJ Brown to be fully healthy coming off the buy. I don't think he's going to continue to score touchdowns that the rate he has this year. I'm not sure that he's going to be a top 10 tight end rest of season. And so I would, and I think a lot of people who have Dallas Goddard probably have another tied in on their roster. I would like to, you might have to throw Goddard into a deal to get something to get an upgrade in another position. But I think that would be worth it. Yeah, one game with more than 44 yards this year for Dallas Goddard. And he has actually
Starting point is 00:33:17 scored more points per game than both Kelsey and Gadsden. And Bo Nix, Bo Nix coming off the Giants Cowboys bump here It's just the craziest thing Like this wonderful dumb game that we play Is a guy scored 78 fantasy points or 75 fantasy points in his last two games And you go look at the rankings and I think Dave has him the highest at QB 16 this week He has He has won the lottery the last two weeks in terms of matchups
Starting point is 00:33:47 But he's probably just a borderline top 12 guys rest of season and he's not a starter this week. And so go see if somebody's buying in to the to the Bo Nix production the last two weeks. You know, one way you can sell Nix is to somebody who's got Mahomes or any other quarterback that's on buy in week 10. At home versus the Raiders in week 10 for Bo Nix. I would imagine that Jamie would make him the start of the week again if he possibly could in that matchup. That seems like a dream come true for Bo Nix. I have that power so I can do that.
Starting point is 00:34:22 There's a wide receiver who is number 15 per game and half PPR, number 13 per game and full PPR. And he's on pace for 948 receiving yards on 11919 targets. Anyone know who that might be? He's kind of like the Dallas Goddard of wide receivers. Who scored a lot of touchdowns? Pittman has, but I think he's on a much higher. Is the Pittman?
Starting point is 00:34:53 He's only on pace for 1,000 yards? Yeah, not even. It's crazy. His yards are so low. He's having a very similar season to Terry McLauran last year. More catches for Pittman, fewer touchdowns, but he's basically, that's kind of what he is. He scores pretty much every week.
Starting point is 00:35:12 He's only had two good yardage games. I don't know. I feel like I'm inclined to hold, but I wanted to ask you guys about him. He's on the highest scoring offense in the NFL. They seem pretty legit. Things could go south. I mean, I was watching more Daniel Jones tape yesterday,
Starting point is 00:35:26 and the guy just makes so many, not so many. Enough, like, really bad throws where you can just see it going south. But right now, they're absolutely rolling. But Pittman is outperforming his targets, for sure. Yeah, I think he's just so high based on his fantasy points per game. Yeah, like you, it's risky to turn him into Zay Flower. I'm assuming you'd do that. Would you turn him into Flowers?
Starting point is 00:35:49 No, I would. I wouldn't. I don't think I would. I mean, it feels like you're almost getting a similar type of player, you know, based on some questions. They're clearly the number one guy on their team, but there's other mouths to feed and you have, you know, a running back that's going to most likely dominate the game playing structure of the flow of the game. So I would probably look at it from a PPR standpoint. I'd rather have flowers, half and non. I might go Pittman just because he's scoring more touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:36:16 I'd almost go the exact opposite way because of the catches and the volume. And certainly there will be games where Daniel Jones is going to have to throw. And, of course, John and Taylor's awesome and all that stuff. But Pittman's going to get a lot of targets. I think you can do better than Zayflowers and trade for Michael Pittman. And I'm not even the big Pittman guy. Dude's been on my bust list for years going into the season. But you could turn Pittman and AJ Brown.
Starting point is 00:36:41 I bet you could. I would do that. Yeah. I don't know if I'd do that either, though. Oh, wow. I would do that. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:49 let's take a break and we're going to come back and talk about Baltimore and Miami and play the feud and more trade talk. We'll be right back. What's up? It's Draymond Green. I'm back for my 14th NBA season and my podcast of Draymond Green show is back too. This season I'm breaking down games, reacted to the biggest NBA stories and sitting down with teammates, rivals, and culture shapers. And trust me, I'm not holding back on the court or on the mic. Two new episodes every week, new segments, big conversations, real basketball talk for the real hoop heads. Listen to and follow the Draymond Green Show wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:37:22 We're back, we're better, let's get it. Homecoming for Lamar Jackson, Baltimore is at Miami, Thursday night. I don't want to spoil the excitement, but this is this the easiest game breakdown of the year? No, because Heath, Miami allows the fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. How do you feel about that, say Flowers? Oh, same. I do not believe it. That's the truth.
Starting point is 00:37:54 I, well, I'm sure it's factually true. I just don't believe they're going to allow the fewest fantasy points to wide receivers this week. I would start Henry, start Lamar, start Zay, start H.N, start Waddle. We're done. Nah, nah, nah, nah. No, you know what? Honestly, I'm going to put a five-minute timer on this one because you're right. This is not a game we need to talk about for 10 minutes.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Five, three. I thought I was done. Well, look, I mean, what do you think about Tua coming off a great game against what was supposed to be a brutal matchup? And also, I was, I mean, the last few quarterbacks to face Baltimore have been, have been pretty bad for fantasy. Stafford, 11.3, Caleb Williams, 11.8. Williams probably should have had two touchdowns. It missed a couple opportunities. But what do you think about Tua, Jamie?
Starting point is 00:38:43 I don't think you should trust Tua, but it wouldn't shock me if he has a, you know, 19 point game in that range. So if you're desperate, you can go to Tua, but you're right. You know, the last two quarterbacks have not played well against them. Stafford lost his best receiver in the early part of that game. And then Caleb Williams seemed like he had 25 chances to get two scores and he didn't. So it wouldn't shock me if he plays well here. I just don't want to buy into Tua having a good game against a defense that seemed seemingly crumbled just before that game and during that game from the Falcon standpoint. So kudos to him.
Starting point is 00:39:19 And I do think to his credit, you know, he needs almost everything to be perfect. And so I saw this going into the game last week. I didn't really give it much credit. Apparently he's, and this is not applicable to this week, but apparently he's just been awesome in domes in his career. Is that right? And so, yes. And it was one of the dolphins writers was suggesting, you know, hey, let's throw out last
Starting point is 00:39:45 week the weather in Cleveland, the fact that they're sticking with him. Don't be surprised at two of bounces back here, and here's why. And it was like all of his games in domes, going back to the national championship game when he came in for Jalen Hertz and won the game in Atlanta, you know, many years ago for Alabama. So he's six and one now, I believe, in domes. In any event, there's going to be most likely good weather, I would think, unless there's something, you know, I don't know if the storm is going to impact South Florida, but the weather should be fine. Thursday, if that's the case, you know, this defense, I still don't think it's completely fixed
Starting point is 00:40:18 where you have to say, I'm sitting guys against them because of it. So I would start to overbo next this week, for example. Whoa. I agree. We do have a little bit of a cold front coming to South Florida, and it's going to be down to 70 during the game, so I'm not sure if that's warm enough for two or not. It's pretty cold in South Florida.
Starting point is 00:40:38 No. What's more likely, two of touchdowns or two interceptions? Two interceptions. I could see both of those things happening, but maybe lean toward the interceptions. Well, Tua made a little bit of an adjustment last week. He got the ball out super quick, which he always does, but it was like turbo. He threw his most amount of screen passes in any game. They played with a lot of tempo, and they were pretty smooth overall last week.
Starting point is 00:41:06 And the Falcons did some weird stuff on defense. Like, they've got one of the best corners in the league. They lined them up away from Jalen Waddle for the majority of the game, and they put two guys to Waddle's side. and Waddle ended up beating them on an inbreaker for a long catch and run touchdown. All right, Dave, we're approaching the five-minute mark here.
Starting point is 00:41:22 So let's- All right. I basically agree with the guys on this one. There are too many other quarterbacks with more upside than Tua, but he wouldn't be bad in DFS. He's going to be good as a number two QB in Superflex leagues.
Starting point is 00:41:34 The Ravens Pass rush is terrible. Do you guys like Waddle or Flowers better? Waddle. Flowers best close. Okay. Yeah, I hadn't really thought about that because I'm just starting both, but I've got flowers. I think Lamar has 40 fantasy points in three or four games in his life against Miami. Yeah, he destroys them.
Starting point is 00:41:58 So, all right, then, I have a few more questions. When you talk about Tyrone Tracy, Zonovan Knight, too hot to Waverwire pickups, would you start either of them over Waddle or Flowers? I don't think I would. I would start who said not Zonovan Knight and who Tracy
Starting point is 00:42:18 Tyrone Tracy in non-PPR would Okay Tracy's got the 49ers night has the Cowboys All right So start those guys And then Oh Andrews
Starting point is 00:42:32 Starters at Mark Andrews I would prefer to sit him But again wouldn't be surprising When Lamar has a chance to go off Then he plays well So if he's been your starting tight end. Congratulations that you're made it this far, but
Starting point is 00:42:46 just stick with him. It's kind of a bad week at tight end. He's top 15, but not top 12. You'll start Gadsden over him, Kelsey over him, Laporta, Hertz, pits. There are too many tight ends. I would take a chance on Loveland over Andrews this week, assuming Komet's out.
Starting point is 00:43:03 Right, but it's always tough with the Thursday games because we may not know about Komet. Yep. By the way, I said Caleb Williams should have had a couple of touchdowns. One of them should have been to Colson-Lovlin yesterday. Caleb made a great play scrambling, got the defensive player to commit to him,
Starting point is 00:43:18 left Loveland wide open, and he just didn't throw it to him. It was weird. Mark Andrews or Joanne Johnson at the Rams. Johnson and PPR, Andrews, and not. Half? Johnson gets the nod. I think I have Andrews higher, but
Starting point is 00:43:37 they are right in the same neighborhood. Zach Ertz against Seattle or Mark Cangers. Erds. Erts. Starters, sit the Ravens DST. Sit. I've got him top 12.
Starting point is 00:43:51 Low end starter, but I'd like to avoid them. I mean, you're hoping to it turns the ball over, which he's obviously done quite a bit when he struggled. You know what? I'm going to say that two touchdowns are more likely because this team than two interceptions. Nine sacks this year, fourth lowest pressure rate in the NFL for Baltimore. Yeah. And that is Thursday night. A lot of two of his interceptions don't come when he's understions.
Starting point is 00:44:12 pressure. That's true, too. Well, when you throw some... The fewer players you rush, the more linebackers there are hiding from two of a behind the defensive line. All right, so you think... I'll take two touchdowns. You take two interceptions and...
Starting point is 00:44:29 Well, probably neither one of us will get either one. Yeah. All right. That's it for Thursday night football. I already sang the song. Nah. Um, all right, I'm... I had some other trade stuff I wanted to talk about.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Maybe some schedule-dependent players. What do you think about the fact that Kyron Williams faces Seattle, Tampa Bay, Seattle twice, sorry, Seattle twice, including Week 17. Tampa Bay, Detroit. Those are some of the best run defenses in football. Also faces Carolina, who was horrible last week, but seemed to be, they were great the three weeks before.
Starting point is 00:45:11 that. Does Kyron Williams strike you as a guy that if he has tough matchups, we might be in some trouble? I'd probably wait until after this week against the Saints. Okay. Or next week against
Starting point is 00:45:27 the shell of the 49ers. What do you think about Jacori Kroski Merritt? So he does have Seattle and Detroit, which is bad, but then after that, Miami, then a buy, then Denver. Minnesota is not great against the run. Look at this playoff schedule, though. for Cory Kroski Merritt at the Giants,
Starting point is 00:45:44 then Philadelphia could be a problem, and then Dallas. But two of his three matchups in the playoffs are great. Does that matter to anyone? I mean, if you can get him cheap, you should absolutely try to do so, but it's got to be dirt cheap at this point. Like, he's just been bad.
Starting point is 00:45:58 No involvement in the passing game, and the quarterback's been in and out of the lineup due to injury, which is clearly throwing things off. It just feels like, and their defense is struggling. So, you know, it feels like we could see situations where game script will be bad for him. But yes, those matchups are so enticing that if somebody is just willing to cut Kroski Merritt, because you're probably seeing that in 10 team leagues at this point.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Then you should say, okay, hey, before you cut them, take my fifth receiver. I'll take your fourth running back and let's make some sort of deal. We had somebody in the chat already said that they cut him this morning. I would just love to see. Maybe for Bam Knight. I mean, I get it, right? I mean, he's been useless. But I would love to see what this offense would look like with two healthy wide receivers and Jaden Daniels.
Starting point is 00:46:40 and then if they're moving the ball up and down the field and they're getting near the goal line, you know, it could be like a like a J.K. Dobbin situation, not going to catch the ball, but he could be the lead running back on a great offense and maybe you get some good games out of them. Yeah, I mean, look, we saw the upside.
Starting point is 00:46:55 He popped off against the Chargers, but just have not seen that sense. What do you think about Justin Jefferson? He has one touchdown catch this year. He's getting a new quarterback who was not good for him. But again, I keep mentioning this. that's how he caught his touchdown from. That's true.
Starting point is 00:47:13 I can mention this. He threw 41 passes in two games, J.J. McCarthy, so let's, you know, he could throw 35 per game, whatever, wouldn't shock me. They're pretty pass-heavy usually. But he's got a great schedule. His teams right now,
Starting point is 00:47:28 Minnesota's, Minnesota, and Addison, too. This is where the opponents rank against wide receivers' rest of season. 25th, 31st, 19th, 22nd, 16th, 23rd, 30th, 27th, 25th, 25th, and then week 18, 22nd.
Starting point is 00:47:42 So it looks great on paper. You know, maybe Detroit's not that bad. Maybe Baltimore's not that bad. But anyway, I'm not saying like anyone's just giving away Justin Jefferson, but do you feel like he could win just be like crazy good second half league winner? You could be a top five wide receiver. Absolutely. I think he'll be that in the fantasy playoffs.
Starting point is 00:48:03 That's really when the schedule is favorable. Well, it's, you know, it's all on how McCarthy. he looks, you know, and O'Connell's seemingly out of options at this point, you know, if he's been trying to hide him, I don't know how realistic or what that's been, but the fact that they were playing Carson Wentz with his arm dangling off, you know, is kind of telling that they've been very cautious with getting McCarthy back on the field with his ankle injury. So the hope would be is that the prospect that we saw, the player that we saw in the second half of the first game of the season against Chicago, is going to keep this off.
Starting point is 00:48:40 offense at the level that we've seen it in the Kevin O'Connell era, which has been multiple quarterbacks at this point. So I would be hopeful for Justin Jefferson. Again, if somebody is selling him cheap enough, you should be buying. And to McCarthy's, to, you know, hopefully help McCarthy. You have, he did the game, the two games without Jordan Addison. So he gets Addison back. And that's a plus or minus for Jefferson, depending on how you look at it. And the offensive line has been a mess the entire season. So, you know, you, you want to be encouraged by the fact that, okay, now we get to see this kid with everything, hopefully at his disposal, can he be successful with it?
Starting point is 00:49:20 You know, I'd be encouraged. Okay. All right. Two more players I just want to highlight real quick. One of them, I think, is someone who's pretty matchup dependent in the sense, running backs who are not at all involved in the passing game. They can have really bad weeks. We talked about Chorri Cross Camer.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Let's talk about Quinn John Judkins because we've seen the highs and the lows of him. Two of his last three games have been fewer than five PPR fantasy points for Quintan Jutkins. So I think if you look at his schedule, I mean, what did you say? He got hurt in one of the games. Yeah, but didn't he have, he had a pretty good workload or now? I mean, he got, let's see, sorry. So Quintan Junkins is the last game they played. All right, nine carries for 19 yards, three catches.
Starting point is 00:50:00 He left in the first half, yeah. First half, okay. This is one that you're going to go back and, well, if I azurestated. No, no, no, I mean, I'd still. think that you don't want them playing great teams and getting blown out. That's the point, because they suck. But they get the Jets,
Starting point is 00:50:18 Ravens, Raiders, Niners, Titans, Bears, bills, Steelers. It's like a mix of games they could win and games that could get blown out. Yeah, but to be fair, though,
Starting point is 00:50:33 I think the game where we all sort of said, wow, Quichon Judkins could be awesome, was the Packers game. What was the Dolphins game when he scored? No, no, no, no. The Packers game was when, I think it was a second game back. Yes. And nobody thought they were going to do anything because Packers' defense was incredible.
Starting point is 00:50:54 And they stayed in that game and he played it well. So I wouldn't shock me if, because their defense, when healthy, can keep them in games. I think it was a bad at a choice. If Judkins is healthy, he's a top 15 running back rest of the season. Agreed. Yeah. well he had three targets last week that's encouraging but if he's going to be a zero to two target guy per game
Starting point is 00:51:15 I don't agree with that I don't think I don't think the offense is good enough and he's very good I do like I do like the schedule though he's got good matchups in general so top three projected schedule it does get a little prickly at the end of the year but it's just I don't know I just think I just think any running back who has almost no involvement in the passing game has a scary profile. Maybe he won't.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Maybe he'll have more of an involvement in the passing game. He's currently averaging two targets per game. But they throw a lot and they dump it off a lot. I think there's a quarterback change. Well, what was, where was Kairn Williams finished last year?
Starting point is 00:51:52 Yeah. Kireman Williams was on a good offense. He scored a bunch of touchdowns. I have a hard time buying into the Browns, I guess, is what I'm saying. I think the point would be maybe what you're trying to illustrate is that there's going to be some great games,
Starting point is 00:52:05 there's going to be some dud games. And by the end of the season, it balances out to round a, top 15 running back. That could be. He currently 16th in points per game, and that's with leaving a game early. Okay, that's Quintan Jenkins. The last guy is Tucker Craft. You know, he's amazing. Obviously, we talked about him on Beyond the Box score. There are so many buy, there are so many sell high cases to make for Tucker Craft.
Starting point is 00:52:25 And I just want to know how you guys feel about him. But basically, everything he's doing is like the best version of Tucker Craft, all the yak and all that stuff. But still, the targets are often pretty low. Um, what do you, would you keep buy, sell, hold, Tucker Graft, I guess. I think the easy answer is hold, but, you know, I mean, if somebody's giving you something great in return for him, you should explore it, especially if you picked up any of these other tight ends along the way. So if you want to pivot to Oronde Gadsden, if you want to wait a week and sell and write it out with Harold Fanon, like, you could definitely do that if somebody is in desperate need of, of a tight end and wants to overpay for him. But, well, we already had one of these games for him before, you know, and then he sort of struggled after that. He got hurt and was sort of managing through the injury.
Starting point is 00:53:12 But, you know, he's on a great offense with a quarterback that's going to feature him, where the coach is going to feature him. Like everything they said this all season is coming into fruition, except maybe the spike in targets. But when he's had the spike in targets, you've seen just these monster performances. So, I mean, for me, if I have Tucker Kraft, I'm pretty happy about it. I'm not looking to move. I agree. it's different if I've got Tucker Kraft and my team's three and five and he's a tradable asset
Starting point is 00:53:37 and I know I can go and get decent replacement value off the waiver wire. I'd want to check to see what tight ends are on the waiver wire first. He entered last week averaging 13.3 ppr points per game. That's really good for a tight end. That's like top five, top six for a tight end. And then he blew up and had this monster game. So yes, the case can be made to sell high on him, but I'd want to sell pretty high if I could. Jamie, if somebody views him, like he is like,
Starting point is 00:54:01 think the number one tied end on a point he is because of last week if somebody views him as the number one tied in rest of season i then i would be selling if somebody views him as three or four then i would not jami would you give me a mecca abuka for him in the super flex league would i give you a mecca abuka for tucker craft i don't think i have a tight end right correct you of mason taylor yeah um no okay yeah thought i'd ask that's a naser trade why he had a think about it. He needs a tight end this week. Yeah. Okay. I don't know. I think we can downgrade expectations for a Bucca, but I still think he can be better than 13.3 per game. Well, that's not the point. I'm not, you don't have to sell Tucker Kraft for a, like obviously most wide receivers who are
Starting point is 00:54:47 as valuable as Tucker Kraft are scoring more than Tucker Kraft. You know, it's, it's value versus the rest of the position. All right. Fair. Let's play some fantasy jeopardy to finish the show. No, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, two, I have three categories, and I have $200, $400, $600 for each category. There is no penalty for a wrong answer. And as every player in the category eligible for the category. I think so. Is there a daily double?
Starting point is 00:55:19 Would you like there to be a daily double? Is there a final jeopardy? As of now, there is no final jeopardy. I'm going to say no daily double. That's fine. I just want to know the rules before we start. I might have Schaefer come up with a final jeopardy. Oh, so.
Starting point is 00:55:31 Schaefer, if you got time, come up with the final Jeopardy. Here we go. Fantasy Jeopardy. It does no. Categories are quarterbacks, past catchers, and scary movies. Okay. Jamie, since it was your birthday recently, I'll give you the board. Quarterbacks, pass catchers are scary movies for 2, 4, or 600.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Scary movies for 200. The killer in the... This is the killer in the 1980 horror classic Friday the 13th. Jamie. Jamie. It was Jason Gorshees. Who is Jason Gores? And.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Heath. Heath. Who is Freddie Krueger? How is it not Jason? Definitely not Freddy. You guys are with that. You ever seen Scream? This is what gets Drew Barrymore killed.
Starting point is 00:56:28 She said, Jason, Jason. Jason. No, you want to know the real killer is Mrs. Warhees. Jason didn't come around
Starting point is 00:56:33 until the sequel. Mrs. Voorhees. Come on, guys. All right, Jamie, the board is still yours.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Scary movies for 400. The killer in this horror movie has the same name as an NFL team. Jamie. Jamie. Who is the Texans?
Starting point is 00:56:59 No. I need the name of the horror movie. The killer and the hard movie, Heath. Heath. Oh, Texas Chainsaw Masker. What is Texas Chainsaw Masker? Yes, I love rooting for the New York Leather Faces. Dave, you have a guess?
Starting point is 00:57:13 I don't know what the hell the question even is. Yeah, well, someone in the chat got it. Good job. Silence of the Lambs. What is Silence of the Lambs? What's the killer in that? Oh. Oh, he puts the lotion in the basket guy.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Buffalo Bill. It is considered a horror movie. but yeah what i i sort of agree with you there but if you look at like best horror movies it sounds oh here we go on that list jbby board still yours horror movies scary characters and toy story actually the category was not horror movies the category was scary movies and silence of the lamb is scary yes it is silence of the lamps had some pretty messed up moments it's pretty scary all right scary movies for 600 what is um my little pony
Starting point is 00:57:58 I have been watching a lot of that lately, unfortunately. Okay, this one I didn't know until this morning, when I looked it up, some trivia. Michael Myers' mask in the original Halloween is actually a mask of this famous actor. Yeah, if you don't know, you're not going to get it. Michael Myers' mask in the original Halloween is actually a mask of this famous actor. Heath. Sorry. Heath.
Starting point is 00:58:28 Who is Jack Nicholson? Incorrect. Sorry if that's too loud. I'll lower that. It's William Shatner. It took a William Shatner mask and turned it into Michael Myers. Pretty cool trivia.
Starting point is 00:58:42 All right, Jamie, quarterbacks or pass catchers? Great game. Let's go quarterbacks for 200. He leads all quarterbacks. There might be a running back knowing your criteria. Well, kind of. He leads all quarterbacks in rushing yards.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Jamie. Jamie. Let's go with Jackson Dart. He leads all quarterbacks and rushing yards, and make sure to frame it in a form of a question. Heath. Heath. Who is Patrick Moms?
Starting point is 00:59:18 To answer again? Nope. No. All right, that's time. Jamie, you can't answer again, but not for points. Justin Herbert. Close. Who is Justin Fields?
Starting point is 00:59:28 Oh. It's Justin Fields. He's only on pace for 700 rushing yards. He left one game early to benching. Great round. You guys should be great. All right. Quarterbacks for 400.
Starting point is 00:59:38 He is tied with Patrick Mahomes for the NFL lead in touchdown passes with 17. He is tied with Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. Who's Matthew Stafford? Oh, yeah, baby. Matthew. Stafford. He had those huge games.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Yes. Look at that. It was down to him or Herbert in my mind. And I just thought to myself that Stafford might have had a few more. That's a good. Herbert has 16. So does DAC. And so does Aaron Rogers.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Wow. Aaron Rogers. Oh, yeah. That would have been sneaky. That was a good question. All right. Quarterbacks were 600. He leads all qualified quarterbacks with a 7.7% touchdown rate.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Heath. Heath. Who is Jackson Dirk? Oh, no? I thought that would be a good one. Dave. Dave. Who is Sam Darnold?
Starting point is 01:00:38 Needs all quarterbacks with a 7.7% touchdown rate. Who is Drake Me? Wow. I was about to give it away. I was about to go, Aaron Rogers leads all quarterbacks with a touchdown rate that I remembered it was one of the Jeopardy answers. That would have been hilarious.
Starting point is 01:00:54 It is Aaron Rogers. That makes sense, sure. It's kind of interesting, you know, something to think about if you haven't met a 2QB league like I do. All right, pass catcher. Dave is in the lead with $400 points or dollars or whatever, dollar he dues. Pass catchers for $200. I lead the NFL in end zone targets. There are two answers here.
Starting point is 01:01:14 But we only need one. Heath. Who is Devante Adams? Correct. You get 200 points. The other one is who's tied with Devante Adams? Is it George Pickens? It is George Pickens.
Starting point is 01:01:26 But Heath gets the points, and they both have 14 end zone targets, and next up is Keenan Allen, who has nine. Pretty incredible. All right, Heath, 400 or 600, pass catchers. Let's go 400. This wide receiver is second in routes run, second in targets, but 17th in PPR fantasy points per game. Dave.
Starting point is 01:01:50 Dave. Who is Justin Jefferson? All the cops on you there Second of routes run Second of target's 17th and points per game This is huge here All right Three Heath
Starting point is 01:02:08 Heath Who is Devante Adams Not bad Jamie who is Cortland Sutton He said Cortland Sutton The answer is Chris Olave Chris Olave That makes sense
Starting point is 01:02:21 Yeah. All right. Last one. This is for the win. Anyone who gets this wins. No one has more than 400 points. High drama. $600.
Starting point is 01:02:31 I am second among tight ends in yards per route run. Dave. Dave. Who is Tucker Kraft? Oh! You did that to me twice? So was he right or wrong? He definitely was wrong.
Starting point is 01:02:50 He was wrong. Heath. Heath. Who was a Ronda Gadsden? Oh! Looking for the triumphant music. Yes, it's correct. You win, Heath.
Starting point is 01:03:02 How do you feel? You know, it was fun. It was kind of like the 20-24 chiefs where, you know, you just have a really bad first half. And then final drive, you go get a win like you always do. Yeah, you do always win. I think Tucker, is number one, Dave, and Orande Gadsden's number two.
Starting point is 01:03:25 So I'm going to give Dave the win because he actually did even better. He gave the number. I said second. You know what? He did even better than that. You said second best and he gave first best. And so Dave gets the win.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I think he deserves the win. I'm so disappointed that you guys didn't get the Mrs. Vorhe's thing. This is love that you came with a question who's second best. Well, I felt like number one would be obvious. It's pretty obvious, yeah. Nobody would guess Tucker Graff for second best. All right, thanks for watching, everybody.
Starting point is 01:03:55 We've got the AFC home games for you tomorrow. You get the question right. You win. Dave gets it wrong. Heath gets it right. Dave, you win. Heath wins. Everyone knows Heath wins.
Starting point is 01:04:04 But really, we all lost. We will talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football League.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.