Fantasy Football Today - Trade Talk, Buy High Guys, PHI-NYG Preview and Fantasy Feud! (10/08 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: October 8, 2025Reviewing yesterday's FAB claims and getting into the news and notes (5:10) with Joe Flacco going to the Bengals. What does this mean for Tee Higgins and Ja'Marr Chase? Then we've got some Buy Low ca...ndidates (10:00) for you! Are we still buying low on TreVeyon Henderson? What do we expect from Nico Collins rest of season? How about Derrick Henry? ... Sell high names (24:55) include a couple of Cowboys, Emeka Egbuka and more. What should you get for Egbuka at this point? ... Previewing Eagles-Giants (44:00), telling you who to Buy High on (55:40) and finishing the show with some Fantasy Feud (1:02:00)! ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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You guys excited?
Dan.
I am also excited.
I cannot wait.
We've got buy lows, sell highs.
But you know what we don't usually do?
We don't usually do buy highs.
How about the guys who are just off to great starts?
Are we buying them or do we have actually a sell high window on them?
Guys like Romo Dunzee or Rico Dowdell or Quinchan Judkins, where are we on those guys?
But also trade targets, who to get while the value is low and who to sell while the value.
value is high. Everybody good? How we feel in here? You guys get your come on Evidell's?
I wound up getting Vidal in a bunch of leagues for like 3% and 2% of Fab. Nice.
So like word got out about Naheem Heinz, Nehem Miller Heinz signing with the Chargers. Like that's their big ad.
And he might be there more for special teams than anything else. I don't know how good he is.
He hasn't carried the ball in an NFL game since 2022.
But I feel the fantasy world's uncertainty with the Chargers backfield, and I totally get it.
I probably am not going to start Vidal against Miami, but we can see what happens and see how the Chargers running backs are used.
It's the same thing as last week is every site that I go to to look for Vidal, Haskins higher in the projections.
So last week we saw DeMercardo, I think, was added in more CBS leagues.
way more than Michael Carter was
because people just go to the projections
and they add the top guy at the list.
That's why it's also a really good idea
with the buys going on.
Go through your normal waivers process
and then change the setting
from next week's projections
to rest of season projections
because there will be guys on buy
who have been dropped
because somebody can't use them
and you can pick them up now
if you have room to hold them
and have better players rest of season.
In all of my CBS leagues
which I think we're about
10, that one run waivers on Tuesday night,
Vidal went first or went for more fab
than Haskins. In all of my non-CBS leagues,
Haskins went first and went for more fab.
No kidding. Well, if you are on...
And all my non-CBS leagues are all analyst leagues.
So I think we might be one of the few places that are higher on Vidal
than Haskins. Interesting. So I looked at the FFT Open leagues,
not all of them, but most of them. And just to give you a general sense,
if you still have FAB that's running tonight.
Now, these leagues, I'm a little more aggressive in FAB in these leagues.
I don't know if other people are, but we have a shortened season.
So you don't need it as long the FAB.
So I'm a little, you know, I got, I got Haskins.
I got Vidal.
I got Vidal for $12, $100 original budget.
I got him for 12.
Nobody in my league claimed Haskins.
But I'll just tell you the dollar amounts out of an original $100 budget that Khamani Vidal went for
in like a bunch of FFT Open League.
24, 20, 20, 24, 14, 12, 7, 22, 19, 23.
And Haskins was kind of in the, usually about four or five bucks less than that.
All right, that's enough on that topic.
What did you see our podcast league?
What did you want for?
Oh, we went for something like 30-something in our league.
46 in our podcast league, and the next highest bid was 17.
That's a 14-team league, so there's desperation there.
I got Vidal in one league from a fab standpoint,
and I did the number on purpose just to see if I would get him.
I got Vidal in our baked burger league for $38.
Out of how much?
I had 85 remaining, but you know I did $38?
Oh, the Schaefer.
The Schaefer went.
I want to see which $38 will be worth more.
All right.
Well, we've got some news and notes for you.
The Bengals acquired Joe Flacco and a sixth round pick from Cleveland for a fifth round pick.
Cleveland 27th in pressure rate allowed
So Flacco is not very mobile
And was behind a line that wasn't really protecting him
But guess what?
The Bengals are 30th
Only the Jets and shockingly
The Eagles
Are worse in pressure rate allowed
Per dropback than Cincinnati.
Eagles offensive line has not been as good as normal
Watch out here come the Giants
Bengals have at Green Bay, Pittsburgh,
Jet Chicago and then a bio.
Anyway,
How big of a boost?
Heath, how big of a boost?
I was joking, by the way.
How big of a boost for Jason Higgins for you, Heath?
Clip that one, Azer.
Oh, here come the Giants.
I was joking, I swear.
Oh, I love it.
You know, I think it's more of a theoretical boost.
I'm not sure what Joe Flacco has been for the Browns so far this year
gives them any boost at all.
but Joe Flacco in
2023 and 2024
is more encouraging than Jake Browning in
2023 and Joe Flacco has been
an NFL quarterback for
shoot a decade and a half now
so there's there's more
hope and I think
the biggest movers probably
Higgins. We never really moved chase
out of must start territory
Higgins for me was
like not even thinking
about it starting
him with Jake Browning. The target
share was disgusting, the efficiency was disgusting. Now there's hope that T. Higgins can be a
starter. Okay. And yeah, I guess we'll get into that. I think we have Higgins in our
by-low, sell-high segment as well. If you're drafting today, well, first, again, I said this
yesterday, and I'll say it again. They haven't said that Joe Flacko is their starter yet.
We're waiting to see. Maybe he won't start this week and then we'll start after that.
I mean, it would be the greatest story ever, right?
Oh, wait, hold on.
This just came through from Captain Obvious.
Joe Flack was a starter this week.
I hate to tell you.
I don't think it's so obvious this week to get traded on a Tuesday and start on a Sunday.
But, you know, just throwing it out there.
It hasn't been announced yet.
I haven't seen the tweet from Captain Obvious, but I'll take a look.
The Chargers signed Naim Hines to their practice squad.
So that hasn't really moved the needle for us.
Jalen Warren trending in the right direction.
Joe Mixon is apparently making progress.
They haven't committed to him coming back.
It still seems like it's a long way off if it happens at all.
But he's made a surprise.
I thought the Sario said weeks.
Yeah.
But I think they said they'd update it.
They'd have an update soon.
But what do you make of the mixing news?
I mean, if we see Joe Mixing at all this season,
that's somewhat of a bonus if he's on your IR spot right now.
Like you can't expect him to help you as a fantasy manager.
Yeah.
We don't know if we'll even be any good.
What kind of condition?
is he going to be in?
Well, we just don't know
if he's even going to play this year still.
Right.
Think of all the hurdles
that are in front of Joe Mixing right now.
I don't mind stashing him in an IR spot.
Yeah.
Brenton Strange is on IR.
Arizona offensive coordinator,
Drew Petzing,
said he could have gotten Marvin Harrison,
Jr. the ball more in week five.
Every other week, maybe.
Baltimore...
That's a substitute week five forever.
Exactly.
Baltimore signed C.J. Gardner Johnson
and traded for Aloha Gilman.
That's two safety.
that the Ravens acquired here,
and they traded away an edge rusher,
Odafe Owe, to the chargers.
But obviously, Baltimore needs help in the secondary.
They've got the Rams.
I'm sure you guys like Matthew Stafford for quite a bit this week.
Eagles Guard, Landon Dickerson, could miss one to two games.
There you got the Giants on Thursday.
Here come the Giants.
And Sequin Barclay was limited,
but he's expected to play.
Tyrone Tracy trending in the right direction.
You got two questionable players for the Giants.
You got right-tackle, Germain Illuminaur,
who's had a very good year for them
and wide receiver Darius Slayton
according to ESPN
Illuminaur has a better chance
of playing than Slayton
the Lions got good news
looked like their cornerback
Terry and Arnold was going to be out
maybe for the season
but he got better news than expected
and he will not miss the season
and Tennessee tight end Gunner Helm
could see more targets going forward
and the Titans waived
wide receiver Trayland Burke's
former first round pick
You have Colston Love one?
No
he didn't practice yesterday
Yeah coming off their by
he did not practice
Oh, that's not good.
No.
Okay, thank you for that.
So, buy, low, sell high.
Jamie, why don't we start?
You've got Omerian Hampton.
You know, makes sense.
I mentioned it yesterday.
I saw some people in my league trading for Hampton, trading for T. Benson.
You know, so I'll let you talk about that.
And then T. Higgins is your, is your by-low.
Talk about Hampton and Higgins.
Well, I think any time you have an injured player, especially for a team that may be sub-500
or, you know, struggling with their roster.
I know there's one league I have where the Hampton manager is trying to make a bunch of trades
because they also have Lamar Jackson hurt and I think Brenton Strange was their tight end.
So, you know, this is your opportunity to hopefully get a difference maker at the end of the season or four weeks from now, you know, when he's, I hope, eligible to come back.
We haven't heard really the severity of the injury.
The fact that he was placed on IR right away is not the best situation, but maybe just to protect him from, you know, re-injuring himself.
in any event if you can get a player like this
it's the same thing with the injured guys
we've been saying this in this segment for several weeks
now you know go trade for mike evans go trade for rushy rice
because of suspension when he's coming back
you know any team that's struggling that has these players
on their bench that especially in the you know not
the case of hampton because you could stash them on i are if you're
if they're taking up a roster spot for somebody
like that's even worse you know so um
try and help them give them players that are you know doing something now
help yourself out that you can you know have a potential superstar down
the stretch. In the case of T. Higgins, every T. Higgins manager hates him right now and is
frustrated with him right now. Understandably so. It's been awful. You got lucky with the touchdown
last week. There is a semblance of hope. As Heath said, it's probably a theoretical boost for these
guys more so than an actual boost for these guys. But if there's one thing that we know Joe Flackle
will do, he will throw the ball down the field and hopefully with more success than what we saw from
Jake Browning. So if you can get T. Higgins cheap, why not try to do it just to see what he still has
to offer. So I would say like of the struggling guys that have been bad at the top of the draft
in the cases of Brian Thomas Jr. and Ladd McConkey and T. Higgins, there's now something
different for T. Higgins. And so if you can get a few weeks of peak T. Higgins from Joe Flacko,
which I don't think is out of their own possibility, and then he gets you to the end of the season
in your fantasy playoffs and Joe Burrell returns, you may have made a season altering trade
for probably next to nothing.
So it's worth exploring
to see if the T. Higgins manager
would be willing to do so.
Okay.
I'm just going to go,
I'm going to look at the most traded list.
I can't imagine you'd give up.
I'm going to just tell me who you would think
of giving up for T. Higgins.
I'm sure most of them are going to be noes at the top.
Well, not necessarily, but A.J. Brown.
No.
Brian Thomas Jr. for T. Higgins.
I would do that, yes.
Wow.
I'd rather have Thomas.
There were a little, little, little glimpses of hope.
last week.
I'll take Thomas.
J.K. Dobbins for Higgins.
Rather have the running back.
That would be more of need.
I probably would lean in the vacuum.
What was the phrase you once made famous?
In a blanket.
In a blanket.
I'd rather have Dobbins in a blanket.
I mean, to me, they're not even close.
Dobbins is giving me 15 fantasy points every single week.
And Higgins is giving me six, basically,
unless he catches a lucky touchdown.
I can't even imagine trading Dobbins for Higgins.
But I mean, I do see how Dobbins could be a sell high because he gets one catch a week and he scores a touchdown to buoy him every week.
And he gets hurt every year.
And he gets hurt every year.
But I don't know.
I mean, it's just their production, their production has been so, so different that I can't even imagine doing that.
But you said that's, you know, close.
Okay.
Is anybody feeling my vibe there?
I guess I just don't.
I don't know.
I'm nervous about Higgins still.
No, I'd want another running back with.
with Higgins for Dobbins.
So a lower end running back.
Maybe you can get Treveon in Higgins for...
Now we're talking.
Oh, yeah, Trayvon.
I can't wait to get Trayvon Henderson.
I love the guy who is getting six touches.
But all right, we'll talk about him soon.
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Okay, Heath, you got Tederoa McMillan.
he has the most targets among wide receivers and probably among any position without a touchdown.
43 targets, no touchdowns for McMillan, and Nico Collins as a by-low.
So Teteroa McMillan and Nico Collins.
Yeah, I think the McMillan one's probably an obvious one.
And if you're in one of our analyst leagues, you're probably not going to have a lot of luck buying low on him.
Because as Adams made the good point, we're viewing Ted Rowan-McMillan is much better than what he's produced so far.
but we also know that in a lot of regular people fantasy leagues,
if you are not scoring touchdowns and you're not producing like more than a wide receiver three,
you are available for purchase.
And I do expect, listen, last week was supposed to be the get right game,
but now he gets the Cowboys.
And he's just one explosion away from everybody viewing him as a top 15 wide receiver
rest of the season.
See if you can go get Ted Rowan McMillan for even low-end wide receiver
two price, which is better than what he's been
so far this year.
He's finally had multiple red zone targets in a game.
That's part of the problem with him.
He only has five red zone targets on the year.
He had two last week.
They need to get him more involved.
So he gets those opportunities to score,
and we can break this spell that he's under where he gets a lot of targets,
and then he doesn't get any touchdown.
I'd like to know how many red zone passes Bryce Young is thrown this year.
Give me a minute.
But, yeah, and then Nico Collins,
Adam, you did a brilliant job.
trading for Nico Collins last night.
I was going to make you an offer for Christian McCaffrey.
It wasn't going to be as good as that one.
He's going on to his buy.
So if you've got a team that's already feeling pretty good about your chances
and you can afford to go without a wide receiver or you're just deep at wide receiver,
you can afford to go without a wide receiver.
He's not been anywhere close to as good as he can be.
And I would expect in the second half of the season,
the Texans offense is a little bit better.
Nico is a lot better and produces like a top 12 wide receiver.
Dave, I got 30 red zone targets for Carolina, only five of them going to Teterola-McMillan.
Very spread out.
Six for Renfro, five for Liget, five for Sanders, five for McMillan, three for Hubbard, three for Trembal.
So he's not a big factor there.
He does get most of their deep ball targets.
If Bryce Young's looking for an explosive play, it's almost always McMillan.
Now, Nico, I traded Christian McCaffrey and Christian Kirk for Kyron Williams and Nico Collins yesterday.
I'm hoping this works out.
I mean, honestly,
McCaffrey's been, I think,
almost 10 fantasy points better
than Kairn Williams
in full PPR.
But Heath, you brought it up
a couple weeks ago,
McCaffrey,
if Kiddell and Pearsall
and Jennings,
forget about Iyuk.
I mean,
that could be a long way,
but he could be back eventually.
If they're all finally on the field,
maybe he's not going to get
eight targets a game
or whatever he's getting.
And he's running the ball so poorly.
Yeah, it's not just that.
I think he has like a 33% target share.
Yeah.
He's certainly not going to get.
that if Kittle and the wide receivers are back.
But Niko, I'm a little worried about Niko.
I mean, not that he's not a by-low, but Jacob pointed this out on me on the box
score.
Over the last two weeks, C.J. Stroud has been getting the ball out of his hand faster
than any quarterback in football other than Mack Jones and Aaron Rogers, who only played
one game in that two-game stretch.
I think they've adjusted their offense because their line is so bad that they can't sit
there in the pocket and throw.
Because last year, he was the sixth slowest getting the ball.
out of his hand, C.J. Stroud. Last two weeks, third fastest. It's only two weeks. But
if they just have this kind of quick, short area passing game, I mean, I guess I'm thinking
that Nico is probably not going to live up to the height, but it could still be better than what
he's been. He has six targets and five targets in those last two games. His ADOT is about
the same as it's been, his ADOT's been like double digits over the last three games.
So that's not affected, but certainly the volume has.
All right, Dave, Trayvion, I'm sorry, just to wrap it up, I don't want to get the last word there. Heath, do you have that concern that Nico, what do you think he'll be kind of second round good, first round good going forward?
I think second round would be my expectation. And maybe instead of early second round, it's late second round. But I think if they get better at getting the ball out quicker, that may affect some of the ways defenses are covering them, which could open up some opportunities for Nico down the field.
I don't think he's a new Tyree, I don't think.
Anyone that has Nico Collins is going to view him that way.
I think they all still view him as a top 10 type of fantasy receiver.
And so you're not going to, I think you're going to have a really hard time acquiring him that low in trade.
I kind of just did.
Well, you gave a great trade for you.
It was a great trade for you, but I just think we should pay for McCaffrey more than anything else.
I don't think, I understand, Dave.
I think you're right that none of us are going to view Nico Collins.
Collins that way. But a lot of people, five weeks into the season, a guy just is what he's
produced. All right. Let's take a break and get Dave's Bilo's when we come back.
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All right, Dave.
Let's go ahead.
Say it.
Trayvion Henderson.
And Derek Henry, two running back bylaws for you.
And now's the time to start going after some running back by lows because of all the
injuries that we have at that position.
So I thought I'd go after two that I think you can get at a discount.
Certainly compared to draft day and certainly after maybe the first
five weeks of the season where they're at, it's a little jarring.
Henry's kind of an easy case.
What we're seeing now from the Ravens' offense isn't really the Ravens' offense.
I don't think he necessarily looks bad.
I think he looks the same as he did last year.
Tons of short runs last week.
He was bottled up at the line.
It was against Houston.
I don't think the line was particularly good for Baltimore.
But the efficiency will go back up once Lamar's back.
The defense will get healthy eventually for Baltimore.
And the Ravens will go back.
to being the Ravens. That's the hope. You're also able, and this is for sure, I don't think anybody
that drafted Derek Henry thinks of him as a top 10 type running back moving forward. And they
shouldn't. But that's the type of player that you can get at a discount. This is the lowest you've
ever been able to get Derek Henry in trade. And if you're evaluating him as like a top 15 running
back, I think you'll get him. And that's somebody that if you're really thin at the running back
position, you don't want to deal with charges running backs off the waiver wire. You don't want to
cut deals for even cheaper guys.
That's one to get.
And with Henderson, Patriots lost a running back.
Antonio Gibson done for the year.
That three-way backfield split should go to two running backs now.
And Ramadre's got a lock on goal line work, it seems like,
as long as he doesn't fumble again or like six more times.
But I think eventually Travion and Henderson will get into the mix.
And his price is super cheap compared to, especially where we were drafting him,
but also where his ADP was.
It would be much lower than that if we were redrafting for the rest of the season.
And I still believe in the talent there, and the opportunities should get larger.
I also have the Patriots running back rest of season schedule projected as second best.
So it's a really good schedule for the Patriots moving forward.
That's good for Stevenson, if you want to try and get him on the cheapy cheap,
but it's Henderson, who I think is the one that you should go after.
Is it too risky to just say I'm going to wait one more week to buy low on Derek Henry
after another bad game against the Rams and then he's going into his box?
and his manager is just in complete panic.
No, that's just as good, if not better.
Yeah, if he has a good game, then you're in trouble.
But I see the logic there.
And I think if you're someone who picked up Michael Carter
and don't need Michael Carter,
that's the kind of guy you would trade for Trayvion Henderson, right?
Sure.
Of course.
Yeah.
And it could work for the other manager, right?
You give someone they might be able to use now
and you just take this high upside stash.
I wanted to bring up one guy and get your thoughts,
as a potential by low. DeAndre Swift,
he's averaging 3.2 or 3.3 yards per carry.
So that's concerning because his yards per carry was bad last year, too.
But his role is really good.
He's had a pretty tough schedule, DeAndre Swift.
They've only had two carries inside the five-yard line all year.
He has both of them.
Swift has three or four catches in every game, so that's good.
But he's got Washington this week.
They're really good against the run.
Then after that, New Orleans, Baltimore, Cincinnati Giants.
So good.
It does get tougher after that.
say. His second half schedule might be hard, but he's got a month maybe where DeAndre Swift has a very
good schedule. I love the role. I just don't really like what he's doing out there, but I don't
know. Heath, what do you think? Should we be looking to buy low on Swift? How active are you in your
league? Because I would love to buy low on DeAndre Swift if I felt like a month from now, I could
sell high on him. I hate the end of season schedule for the Bears' offense and for DeAndre
Swift. But the next five weeks, I do think he will be better than what he has been, his expected
fantasy points. His role imply more fantasy points than he has scored. So yeah, if you, if you got an
active league and you like making trades and you think I can trade for DeAndre Swift right now and five
weeks from now, I can make another move and get rid of DeAndre Swift. And I like that a lot.
All right. Let's go to our sell highs. Dave, you have a couple of wide receivers who have, have
number one, potentially number
one for Debo, wide receivers
coming back. And
we don't know when, but hopefully soon
for McLaren and Lamb. So you have Debo Samuel and
George Pickens. By the way, before I forget,
Darius Slayton not expected to play.
We're going to preview that game later.
But Dave, you have
Debo Samuel and George Pickens
as you're so high.
It's exactly what you laid out. It's really as simple
as that when McLaurin comes back, I expect
the target volume to go down
for Debo Samuel, not to a point where he's going to suck.
but where he's not going to be as good as he's been.
And the same thing for George Pickens.
So these are going to be great number two receivers on their own teams.
They'll still be like borderline number two wide receivers for fantasy.
But you hit them now from a desperate manager that needs wide receiver help,
the guys that have been struggling through with,
think of the names that we've already talked about,
T. Higgins, Brian Thomas Jr.
The list goes on.
They could use receivers like this and they might buy into them based on what they've done so far.
I think we've seen the best, certainly from Debo.
And we'll still see some good games from Pickens because the Cowboys are going to throw a ton.
But I bet he'll be more inconsistent once C.D. Lambs comes back.
And we saw that in the first three games of the year.
He had one great game and he had one terrible game.
So if you can get something for these guys, it just makes sense to move them all you can
for the number one on their team come back.
You got to get a lot, though.
You can't give them away.
You're not trading one of them straight up for Trevion Anderson.
but if you can trade one of them
straight up for Derek Henry
I think I'd do that
especially if it's half or non.
Heath?
Non, yes.
And I'd probably be more willing to sell
Pickens than I would Debo.
But I had
I think I had Debo ahead of Pickens
so I think it's probably just depends on
who you liked before the number one wasn't there.
Man, I think the
Pickens Lamb target share
going back is much more certain
than the McCoran Debo target share going back.
Interesting.
I think both these guys are still heavily involved,
even when the guys return,
because the Cowboys throw the ball so much.
Agreed.
And you know,
you just saw Flournoy have a big game.
Like there's a lot of room to eat in this offense,
even with Jake Ferguson, too.
Like, they're going to be in a lot of shootouts.
And it's not going to be the same heights.
Dave's right, like you're getting peak value for these guys if you can do it.
But I think in the case of, like Debo, for example, he may be the number one right now.
Like, you know, McCorn's never had to deal with a player like this.
And Cliff Kingsbury is probably having a lot of fun with a player like this.
You know, he only runs three routes.
You know, so it's, it's, it's, he's doing very well in that regard.
But I think in the case of both of these guys, you could see still sustained value because of the type of
players that they are and the offenses that they're in. I made a trade, you know, it was somewhat
out of desperation. I got lucky to beat Heath without, I didn't, this is how bad it is. I have to fix
some of my notifications. I didn't even realize I made the trade. So I made, I made a trade in our
draftathon league. I traded C.D. Lamb for Debo Samuel and Quinn Johnston. And I didn't even start
Debo.
That is embarrassing.
But I was one and one three, one and four, what was last week?
One three?
No, one and four, excuse me.
No, one and three.
And lost Tyree Kill and didn't have CD Lamb.
So I was, you know, desperate for receiver help.
And so traded Lamb for, for those receivers.
Yeah.
Well, so I'm doing a poll right now on Twitter.
I have a feeling I know how it's going to end.
But if both are healthy, who is the better commander's,
wide receiver rest of season.
And right now,
only 31 votes,
but two thirds of them go to Debo.
I think people are going to go with Debo.
That doesn't mean he's not a cell hive.
But, yeah, so Debo had a 26% target share
with Terry McLaurin on the field.
It's 31% with him off the field.
But, yeah, he's doing well,
and hopefully they both can be good.
I think you said they'd be number two wide receivers
when their guys are back.
On their own teams and low-end number two receivers in fantasy.
Debo more than Pickens.
All right.
Keith says Jake Ferguson, kind of on the same subject here, is a sell high.
I believe he leads the position in targets.
It's either him or McBride.
And then there's a mecca-buka.
We might as well sell high day, right?
Might as well sell the number one tied-in in fantasy and the number three wide receiver
in fantasy.
Like for Ferguson, I think his target share is going to be more impacted by them because
they work more in the same part of the field.
field. The first two weeks of the season, Ferguson had a 21% target share. Pickens had a 15%
target share. And the general expectation from everybody was that's going to be closer the rest
of the way. If we thought George Pickens was going to have a 15% target share when C.D. Lamb gets
back, we wouldn't be saying by low on them. We'd just be saying you can plan on sending
or leaving on somebody else's team. And right now, since Lamb's been out, it's a 27%
target share for Ferguson, which is insane for a tight end and a 21% target share for Pickens.
So I think when Lamb comes back, you see that 27% for Ferguson move a larger share than you do the 21% for Pickens.
I think Ferguson's probably in that tight end 8 to 10 range when Lamb's back.
And right now he's just destroying the position.
And more importantly, maybe you decide which of those two Pickens or Ferguson
do you think is the sell high
because they can't both be
anywhere close to what they are right now
when C.D. Lambs back.
I guess the question would be is like
for Ferguson, which
tight end are you pivoting to?
So like if
you think like you can get by
with the streaming options and turn Ferguson into
Bowers with the idea of Bowers being Bowers, like that's a great
trade. Right. I think that's the ideal
trade. So like
that's the type of, you know, and maybe even McBride,
the McBride manager might be frustrated and says,
okay, let's do something. And Ferguson for McBride
and something else, you know, again, to sort of get the, the immediate upgrade of what Ferguson has
been. But, like, you've got to have a pretty good tight end backup option. You have a pretty good
plan B because I think even if he does take the expected hit, which clearly there's going to be
a hit, like he's still probably middle of the pack at worst in the offense that he plays in.
Mason Taylor, Darren Waller.
So here's the thing. Plan B's? It's one of, it's one of, it's one. It's one. It's one. It's
one of two things it's i'm trying to do i think the bowers thing makes the most sense because if you
have jake ferguson you ought to have a very very good record and a lot of teams with brock bowers
i can speak from experience do not and so that's like the perfect trade because the bowers got
manager doesn't know when he's getting him back and must win now and ferguson's the number one
tied in this week if you don't do that then you're trying to get a really good player at another
position and just settle for having a borderline top 12 tight end.
Do you believe we're going to get 2024 Brock Bowers at any point this year?
I would think after the buy at worst.
Well, if you're hoping for close to that, because I don't know if he's even going to get
to that, I mean, again, there's a offensive change, there's quarterback change, a lot of
things that happen differently.
But let's just say he's close to that.
you're
hoping that
Ferguson
gets significantly worse than that.
Right.
And that I have a hard time
buying into.
I think Ferguson,
I don't think he's going to be.
I guess the heat the question would be
are you expecting Ferguson to go
to sub 10 points?
I would not say sub 10 points.
I would expect Ferguson.
12?
Yes.
So between 10 and 12 points,
game. Yes. So that's a, that's a huge drop-off. So then you're obviously trying to get rid of him.
And I think if he's not, and the whole key to this is, C.D. Lamb could come back.
Like, we're asking, is Brock Bauer going to be himself at any point this year? Is C.D. Lamb?
We're all kind of assuming that C.D. Lamb is going to be himself. If C.D. Lambs himself and Jake Ferguson's
scoring more than 12 fantasy points per game, I would be selling very quickly on George Perry.
And I'll just give you, uh, not, not a Ferguson.
trade scenario but like in our podcast league so i'll just you know full disclosure in our podcast
league um i have the team i share with with todd rones i we have Tucker craft and mason taylor
and we lost malik neighbors so we need receiver help and i went and looked and i'm like
there's not a team in that league that i think would give me what i'm looking for for mason taylor
right now isn't that's what i said to you on sundayton that's that i said to you on sundayette
I don't remember what it was.
I was like,
I need a wide receiver three
so much more than I need a tight end right now
in my league.
Tight end is,
there's enough of them
that you just feel comfortable starting.
And I said this to Todd yesterday.
I said,
you know,
we should try and shot Mason Taylor.
And he's like,
oh,
like what are we getting in return from at this point?
Like his,
the name that he throws,
like are we getting like a Jacoby Myers type of receiver?
I said, for what our team needs,
Jacobi Myers would make some sense for for Mason Taylor.
but I think in the case of the Myers manager,
like that's hard to give up right now,
even though he's struggling.
Okay, the thing about Mason Taylor,
just and the Jets in general,
is they just played the dolphins and the Cowboys.
I think if you...
I'll change the name.
Forget about it. I don't want to make some amazing.
Tucker Kraft.
I don't even know if we could trade Tucker Craft
or what we're looking for
and just stick with Taylor.
Yeah.
All right.
Moving out.
By the way, I just think that the cow,
I think we have to acknowledge
the Cowboys are probably
the best fantasy team
for, you know, offense for fantasy,
the best team, right?
I mean, they have a pretty tough schedule going forward,
but they looked like Green Bay
was going to be a tough matchup,
and Dak Prescott scored 30-something fantasy points,
so they had a huge game.
Without C.D.
Without C.D. Lamb.
They're just, to my surprise,
the best fantasy offense.
So if you're selling high on these guys,
it's got to be very high, you know?
It's not just they're going to stink.
Okay.
Jamie, two cell highs, please.
I don't remember who I told you.
I think you had Jalen Waddle on there?
Oh, yes.
And you had Stefan Diggs.
In the case of Waddle, look, he's in a great spot right now, clearly, coming off the game that he just had with Tyree Kill being out for the season.
I think he's going to be fantastic.
But there's the, what if Tua goes down question, what if he gets hurt question, is this sustainable for him?
This is just trying to maximize a guy that you drafted with a mid-round pick probably as a borderline number two, maybe a number three receiver.
And if you could turn that into somebody who's struggling, that may give you some long-term appeal.
It's just worth exploring.
Would you trade Waddle for A.J. Brown?
I would, yes.
Yeah, I think I might rather have Waddle.
I wouldn't trade him for Brian Thomas Jr.
No one trained for T. Higgins either.
Would you rather have Waddle or Abuka?
Abuka.
I don't know about that.
I do.
I think he's legit.
At this point,
I should be able to get Waddle plus.
I realize I didn't even talk about Abuka,
but like this is a shoot for the moon scenario.
I do not believe he's going to be a top 12 fantasy wide receiver
in the second half of the season when Mike Evans and Chris Godwin are both there.
And so I wouldn't see.
Right.
I wouldn't sell for less than a number one wide receiver
or a wide receiver 13 and another starter or something like that.
But he's currently wide receiver 3 in total fantasy points.
Yeah, Abuka is doing a lot of his damage on deep balls.
He has the second, if we define deep ball as 20 or more air yards,
he has the second most deep ball targets behind Tyquan Thornton.
He has the most yards and most touchdowns on these targets.
That's a Mecca Buka.
But the encouraging thing is Abuka also has six targets at or behind the line of scrimmage,
which ranks 10th among wide receivers, same as Justin Jefferson,
one more than Amon Rae St. Brown.
So they're giving him those easy fantasy points.
And also he's, but I just think it's, what's nerve-wracking is that he seems to make his,
hey, once or twice a game on these deep post routes in the end zone,
you know, that you just wonder if he can keep that up.
But, man, he is so damn good.
He's also still learning the position.
I think in the case of Abuka and Waddle, you're not giving these guys away for nothing.
You know, you're giving these guys away for superstars.
Yeah.
All right.
And then Diggs.
Diggs, he is third in yards per route run behind Jackson Smith and Jigba and Pooka.
It doesn't run that many routes yet.
Why are we selling Diggs?
Again, just the guy that you're maximizing what his value is right now.
You know, Dave said running back is banged up.
I mean, receiver's been the worst position in terms of injuries and, you know, guys struggling at the top.
again, can you turn a player that you drafted later than a guy like Waddle who was sitting on
your bench in most cases?
I mean, I don't think a start percentage.
The last time I looked yesterday was above 60%.
You know, so you can hopefully turn, like, I would trade digs in a heartbeat for AJ Brown.
I would trade digs for T. Higgins at this point, you know, so I think there's some sustainable
value here, but we're also talking about a guy still coming back from an ACL there.
While he looks great now, there's still the what-if scenario.
So maximize the potential while you can't.
Here's the question I have on Diggs.
Did he have, his last two games were really good?
Did he have those games because one was a matchup against his former team and he wanted revenge
and the other one was fairly easy matchup.
He got lined up against the Panthers' second best corner and just shredded him all game long.
And now that he's had those two big games, does he fall back in?
or is this what, is he evolving into what we were hoping he would be,
which is the number one receiver for Drake May,
the guy that May leans on all the time,
and basically becomes what he was to Josh Allen
when Allen was coming up in Buffalo
and needed a big time number one receiver.
If you think he's going to end up being the number one guy
and that this is who he is now,
eight plus targets per game,
potential for 100 yards against anybody,
then you're not trading them
because you won't accept anything
that you'll think is fair in exchange.
you're sky high on him.
But if you think this is kind of flukeish
and what you've seen
over the last couple of weeks,
then maybe you do move on from him
and see if you can parlay him
into a better wide receiver.
Yeah, he's playing about 42% in the slot,
which is good.
He needs to be in the slot, I think.
Tell me, is that over just one week,
two weeks, three weeks,
how far back does that go?
That's for the season,
but I think that's kind of been the trend
is it's gone out.
I think he took over for DeMario Douglas
in the slot and that's helped unlock him a little bit.
And he's still, but he's still not running that many routes.
Last week, Diggs played about 50% of the snaps.
He did have a 64% route participation rate.
The week before that, it was 82%.
So I thought that we were finally getting the point where Diggs was close to, you know,
a full-time receiver in terms of running the routes, but he wasn't in week five.
The thing is, they have such an easy schedule.
I'm going to say it right now.
I will take Diggs over T. Higgins.
Jamie, the bet is on.
Okay.
What's the bet?
Jamie will have to agree with every take you made.
We'll go double or nothing on the bet that you still haven't paid up on with the picture behind you.
I really want to do that, actually.
It's a fun way.
I don't know why I haven't done that.
Also, I'll be in town in January.
I'll be in Florida for the Miami National Championship game.
So I'll just, you know, we'll go out to lunch or something when I'm there for that.
Oh, that's a great payoff for the audience.
All right.
We'll take a break.
Come back.
We do have to get to the buy highs.
But we have to also preview Thursday Night Football,
which is the game everyone's talking about.
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Heath, Dave, what side of the bet would you take?
Higgins or Diggs?
Diggs.
Oh, okay.
Jamie's on Higgins Island.
guess what? Philadelphia is at the New York Giants.
Nah, no, no, no, no, no.
Yeah. Okay.
Wait, you're a Titans fan now.
I am a Titans fan now. It is true.
And you were an Eagles fan once upon a time.
I was.
Don't bring that up.
Wouldn't you a Vikings fan?
I was a huge, huge Vikings fan for, I had a stretch.
Yep, I had a stretch.
Okay, so Eagles at the Giants.
The Eagles, they are one of the slowest teams in football.
I do think this is really hurt.
them. Only Miami has
less time remaining on
the play clock on average when they
snap the ball. And
yeah, they're not running that many plays
and they're 30th in yards per game.
But you know what?
Here come the Giants. Here come the Giants.
Anyway,
I don't know if the rankings, I know the first run of rankings
are not necessarily going to be the
accurate last ones.
But do you have Hertz
and Barclay and Brown
we'll get to Smith I guess separately
a little lower than you normally
would or are they the studs
this week that we drafted them to be Hertz
Barkley Brown?
I have Barclay higher just with the
narrative.
I have Hertz
I think about where I have him last year
which is someone you start
but not a top five quarterback.
Yep.
And I think that the slow play
taking so long to get the
the things going and going slow is a product of the offensive coordinator and the
everything that's going wrong right now seems to be they just don't have a good
cohesive plan on offense but here come the giants so you start hurts
barkley with the the injury ding on a short week is just a little bit concerning
but he's his must start and i think a j brown's a low end wide receiver
for two.
That's the, I mean, I'm just waiting.
He's still getting the targets.
Last week, he stopped running on a deep ball.
Otherwise, it would have had a big play.
The Giants.
Seems like a lot of his targets are either catching a pass within five yards of the line of scrimmage
where he gets just destroyed before he has a chance to turn up field or running 40 yards
downfield and hoping Jalen Hertz puts it on target.
Well, the Giants give up big plays like it's their job.
I just asked Rashid Shahid, right?
I mean, they're just really bad at this.
I think only the Cowboys have been able to...
What's that?
Is their job?
Well, they're not good at their job, but...
Well, if that is their job, they're great at it.
So I guess I was surprised that you all, I think, have A.J. Brown as a number two receiver, right?
Yep, I do.
I think I just moved him to 24 this morning.
You're not going to start Kendrick Bourne over him, are you?
No.
Okay. Okay. How about, you're not going to start a Packers wide receiver over him.
How many Chargers wide receivers would you start over A.J. Brown.
I think just the one.
Which one?
Quentin Johnston.
I have Keane and Allen. I'd have them too.
You can make the case for both McConkey and Allen.
You can make the case for both of them over both Eagles receivers.
because if the Chargers can't run the football against Miami,
the sentence that will probably get laughed at five days from now.
But if they can't, how do you replace that?
Short throws, get the ball out quick,
which Herbert's going to have to do pretty much anyway.
And McConkey and Allen kind of have the same role.
They could end up each getting seven plus targets.
I think the bigger risk.
A competitive game.
If it ends up being a competitive game,
those guys can end up in PPR being better than both Eagles receivers.
You can make that case, yes.
I don't worry about the Chargers game script.
I worry that the Eagles last week decided to make their wide receivers happy and lost the game.
And now they're facing just a miserable Giants offense.
Like the Giants might score 10 points.
The Eagles might throw 18 passes again.
Could I put on the tinfoil hat?
Did Sequan get banged up in that game?
And that's why they got away from him running the ball.
And now he's on the injury report with.
just soreness.
It's interesting.
But he hasn't run the ball that well.
No, he hasn't.
And is Dickerson playing for Philly at guard?
He's not expected to.
He's not expected to.
But report was he'll be out one to two weeks.
Okay.
So that makes the offensive line a little bit worse.
The Giants give up 5.6 yards per carrier running backs.
I get it.
I get it.
But if he's already inefficient against other defenses,
look, we're starting Sequin Barclay.
It doesn't make any difference.
I told you, this is the tinfoil hat.
No, but I think it's a good question
that Heath brings up
is are they just going to be able to run the ball
so much have one of their
entirely possible
You know, one of the things they didn't do last week
Sorry, Adam, one of the things they didn't do last week
Was let Hertz run
He only had two carries for three yards
Yeah, Broncos are very good at taking away mobile quarterbacks
But that was- Yeah, Justin Fields is in trouble this week
That was extreme
That's the, again, I said on Sunday
The fewest amount of rushing yards in a game for Jalen Hertz
Since he became a starter
And for Barclay, he had said,
six carries. I think it was one of the lowest totals of his career in any game he didn't
leave with an injury. So you'd think maybe they get their run game right against this
Giants team. But, you know, Giants give up points to receivers too. The Giants are equal
opportunity. They'll let everybody score fantasy points on them. Would you start Michael Carter
at Indianapolis or A.J. Brown. Brown. I'd still go A.J. Brown.
All right. How about Michael Carter or Devante Smith? Smith.
Yeah, I think it's Smith.
Okay, how about Derek Henry or Devante Smith?
Henry against the Rams.
I'd go Carter over Henry.
I do have Carter over.
No, I've got Henry over Carter.
Yeah, I'd probably go Henry.
I have Henry over him right now.
I don't know if I'm going to keep it that way.
Over who?
Smith or Carter?
Over Smith.
Okay.
T. Higgins at Green Bay or Devante Smith?
Duvante.
Smith.
Yep.
All right.
Smith is like a number two receiver, number two, three.
Something like that?
High and three.
How do we feel about Dallas Goddard versus Theo Johnson?
Who's your favorite tight end?
Goddard still.
I've got Theo higher.
I have Goddard hire as of now.
But this is another one where you can make the case for Theo Johnson.
Are you ready to pick your jaw?
I thought your audio was, Theo Johnson.
I thought your audio skipped or something.
That was super fast.
No, that was all me.
Are you ready to pick you?
I love the targets that Theo Johnson's been getting over the last couple of weeks.
Darius Slayton's not going to play.
This giant's offense is going to stink on ice.
And so Theo Johnson could end up falling into some pretty decent production.
I think I'm going to take Johnson over Gowder to be, to be blunt.
Okay.
I need to give this Dallas Gauter stat.
It is the, you're going to, your jaw is going to hit the floor.
Dallas Goddard has three targets from the five-yard line or closer this season.
That's as many as he has had in his previous four seasons combined.
Okay.
Kyle Pitts or tight end in this game?
Pitts.
Pitts.
Go ahead, Heath.
I just realized, I think yesterday afternoon in the writing and rankings day, I missed that the Brian
Dable's optimistic that Tyrone Tracy's back.
Yeah.
So game Scatabu is going to be about the most interesting guy.
Let's do it.
Let's talk about Cam Scadaboo because Tyrone Tracy.
So after the Dallas game, I think people thought Scadaboo was going to have the starting
job and whatnot.
Tyrone Tracy came out and actually had seven carries and two catches played 17% of the
snaps in that game.
He was the starter playing ahead of Scadaboo.
I would think Scataboo's got the job, but I don't know.
I know he's got the goal line job.
But yeah, I mean, I can't imagine anyone starting Tracy, but the Eagles actually eighth
most fantasy points allowed of running backs, 4.4 yards per carry, ninth most receiving
yards per game to running backs. It hasn't been that tough of a matchup. So start or sit,
Cam Scadaboo, Heath. If Tracy's active, then Scadaboo is going to be in that Michael Carter,
Derek Henry range, probably just outside of the top 24 running backs.
Anyone else on Scataboo? He's in that range, for sure. I'd be higher. I'd start him over Henry
still. I'd start him over Carter still.
Okay.
Would you start Cam Scadaboo?
I do think we see both of them on the field together with the injuries to the receiver
spot.
Cam Scadaboo or Alvin Cam Carmarra against the Patriots.
Scadaboo. I want no part of Camara this week.
I would still have Scadaboo. I think the interesting thing will be like, I don't think
this game script's going to line up for a running back on the Giants to have success running
the football. We've seen Scadaboo heavily heavily.
involved in the passing game when they're
chasing the score. Are those
targets now going to Tracy?
Yeah, it's a great question.
Last one, Scataboo or David Montgomery
at Kansas City?
If Tracy plays, I'll take
Montgomery.
I'll take Scadaboo.
I'll probably be Scadabary.
Over under
over under
11 PPR fantasy points,
Wondale Robinson.
Over.
He can get to 12.
That's a good number.
I haven't projected for 11.08, so I guess over.
All right, I got some questions in the chat.
Chikori Kroski Merritt or A.J. Brown.
Crosky Merritt.
Yes.
I think it's got to be Bill.
Hertz or Sam Darnold?
Hertz.
Hurt.
Got to be Hertz.
Darnel has the Jaguars.
Goddard or Mason Taylor?
Taylor.
Taylor, especially if it's
PPR. Taylor against the Broncos.
Hertz or Matthew Stafford against Baltimore?
Hearts.
Stafford. I am tempted to go
Stafford. I have Hertz higher as of now.
Assuming Chuba Hubbard is out,
RICO Dowdell against Dallas or A.J. Brown.
Rico.
Dato.
Jake Tongass or a tight end in this game?
Tongus.
Tongus.
I think we're going to have to watch
the injury report. If one of those wide
receivers is back back, then I'll take
Theo.
But if we're just questioning whether they're back,
then I think you can wait on Tundas.
And last one, A.J. Brown,
Chris O'Lave or Michael Carter.
Brown.
Two Browns and an Olave.
I think I heard there.
All right, start the Eagles DST.
And the Eagles DST, by the way,
they have the Giants, Vikings, and Giants in their next three games.
So good schedule coming up for them.
That is it for Thursday night football.
Nah, nah, nah.
Okay, we got two segments left.
Buy High and Fantasy Feud.
I really want to play the feud.
So let's try to do five minutes on each segment.
Buy high.
I asked on Twitter, who are you buying high on?
They got off to Great Starts, and you're just buying it.
Man versus Life says, give me Rico.
Give me Rico, Dave.
Worst case looks like he splits 50, 50 when Chuba comes back,
or he takes over.
Buy High on RICO.
So if we're buying high on Rico, does that mean that we're viewing him as like a top 15 running back rest of season?
We're going to have one game against Miami.
That feels a little high.
Let's say too high.
Do not buy high on Rico.
I do not think.
But I do think that, you know, he has another good game against Dallas.
We're definitely going to have a conversation about what happens to Chuba, what happens to RICO once Chuba comes back.
I don't think this is going to be a case where Chubo.
but just gets his old workload back.
I mean, he was kind of losing that workload before he got hurt.
We're going to see a split, and it might be in Rico's favor.
But I don't know if it's enough to make Rico a top 15 running back.
I'm just not super excited about buying a running back
who we think is going to be splitting on the Panthers.
Right.
You can't give up too much to get him.
Carolina does have a good schedule rest of season.
All right, bye high from Red Eye Jedi.
Buy high on Quinn-Judkins is offering Ibuka or rice too high or low.
for Quinch on Judkins.
I mean, you
generally have to overpay for running backs
that are doing well.
So I would say that's a fair trade
even though the potential
or production for Rice
and Abuka might be better than Judkins' rest of the season,
but it's harder to find workhorse running backs
like what Judkins has done. So I think that's a fair trade.
The dudes had 24 or 25 touches
in two straight games. So I think we would
definitely sign off on buy high on Judkins.
modest make
Buy high on
Dak Prescott
Yeah I'm like all in on this
But he has a tough schedule
But I have a team that's one in four
And I have Josh Allen
And I'm going to try to get
Dak Prescott and a starter
For Josh Allen
I don't know if you guys
Are as enthusiastic as I am
But I just
Depends who the Or is
Right
You know what I'll look right now
I'll see if I can make this trade
Next up
is Travis E.T.N.
from AJ says buy high on Travis E.T.N.
No. I don't like it.
Oh. Heath?
Yeah, I think, I mean, I'll buy high on Travis E.T.N.
in analyst leagues and probably not in regular people leagues.
Because I think the majority of analysts are still have some hope that Bachel Tutin's coming to be even better than Travis E.T.N.'s spectacular play so forth this year.
But if you're talking about buying him.
him, we were drafting him as, what, R.B.30-ish, and we're saying we're going to buy him as a top
20 running back? I would do that. Top 12? No. I guess the question would be so far in these
discussions, we have one example of what you're trading for these players. So like,
Abuka and Rice for Judkins makes some sense to me. What are you trading to get Travis E.T.N.
as a buy high. Would you give up George Kittle for him?
No.
Would you give up Debo or George Pickens for him?
Yes.
That I think is in the discussion.
There you go.
Keith,
I don't even remember offering you this trade.
I offered you James Cook for Sequin Barclay and T. Higgins in the ID.
Oh, what league are we in?
IDP.
Huh.
Yeah.
Go for it.
I mean,
if you'd like to accept it.
What about my Josh Allen for Quentin Johnston and Dak Prescott?
If you can get it, sure.
All right, I'll propose it.
Let's see what happens.
that's not enough for Alan.
I don't think.
It sounds like you're doing a lot of trading one great player for two good players.
Yeah.
No, your McAfee trade was good.
Your other trade was terrible.
No, but look, I'm one in four in this league.
I've got injuries.
You know, I've lost players.
I need bodies.
I need people.
I can't just rely on one guy to help me.
I think that's kind of.
Well, it seems like you just targeted one team, though.
What's that?
It seems like you just targeted one team as your Josh Allen trade.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, that's the first trade I've made.
First tradeoffer I made.
Which league is this?
IDP.
Yeah, I can't help you.
My team stinks.
This was my favorite team.
This was my neighbor's Brian Thomas team.
I'm destined to death.
Somehow, when he was hurt,
Justin Fields was available in that league,
which saved me because I lost Lamar Jackson.
Oh, wow.
Yogi Danza says bye high on Tyler Warren.
And I would just say,
Tyler Warren,
16 targets in his first two games,
15 targets in his last three games.
So five per game, and they don't throw much.
They throw about 30 times a game.
So are we buying high on Tyler Warren?
Yeah.
Warren or Ferguson rest of the season?
Ferguson.
Ferguson.
Hmm.
Tough call.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
Yeah.
Tough call there.
It was nice to see Warren's score a touchdown in that.
Back games?
Well, yes,
a receiving touchdown.
Romo Dunzee.
Buy high on Romo Dunzee.
This is a guy who's had 70 yards once.
He's had 60 yards in three or four games,
but has been five touchdowns in four games.
So this one I question here,
should we buy high on Romo Dunzee?
Or should we actually sell high on Romo Dunzee?
I prefer to...
Yeah, I think he's worth it, too.
You just basically buy it.
Just don't overpay.
Bears' offense coming out of the by
is going to be one of the most interesting things
to watch just in terms of like,
are they going to try to get DJ more actually involved
or is at Luther Bird in time?
It might just be time for Morrow Dunezai.
It might be time for the feud.
All right, there we go.
Here we go.
Round one.
Give me, Jamie.
Give me Heath.
Top five answers are on the board.
You have to buzz in by saying your name.
And in this opening part,
It's whoever can get the number one answer or the highest answer.
Okay, top five answers are on the board.
I did remove two players because I don't think you'd ever guess them.
Oh, my God, your A's are stating the food.
If we guess the players, we would never guess, do we get a miss?
Or do we just get to guess again in like a gold store?
I already.
If I guess somebody that you took out of the equation?
You don't get an X.
You can just keep going, yeah.
Okay.
All right, fine.
I was going to say who I removed, but I won't say.
Well, why don't you get the...
You can't do that.
Yeah, well, he could because he's going to say what the category is.
I just, I don't think anyone would have gotten them.
They're pretty random, but top five wide receivers, fantasy points per target.
Cavante Turpin.
No.
That's not your name, sir.
Five, top five wide receivers, fantasy points per top.
Heath.
Roman Dunezay.
Looking for my wrong buzzer.
Jamie?
I didn't even hear the question was I was just going to say some random names,
so I was thinking, was it again?
It's top five answers are on the board.
Wide receivers, fantasy points per target.
Emeka Buka.
He is number three, and the board is yours.
Pass or play?
It's always more fun to pass.
I'll pass.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
This is a terrible, terrible game.
Okay.
So I'm up.
You're up.
Can I get a Trey Tucker?
Oh, that was one of the names I removed.
Good job.
What?
I was like, they're never going to get Trey Tucker.
What?
Way to go.
All right.
You don't get it.
I think he wins.
I think feud is over.
I'm disgusting.
You don't get an ex.
What's the big deal?
What's the big deal?
It's five, five like family.
Jamie left come back.
Jamie quit on the feud.
All right.
Sorry, go ahead.
Trade Tucker.
Are you kidding me.
It would have been on there.
But, okay, so I would have done the top seven.
It would have been even harder.
Okay.
I'm trying to get fantasy relevant guys.
George Pickens.
George Pickens is number four.
Okay.
Fantasy points per target at the wide receiver position.
This is a dumb one, but I'm going to try it anyways.
Tai Kuan Thornton.
That was the other name I removed.
You are awful.
I am so impressed by you.
I'm so impressed.
Very impressive.
Good job.
It's not going to be impressive
when I end up losing
and then Jamie gets it
because he names the one guy I didn't say it.
But it doesn't matter
because I would have done top seven
if that were the case.
So you got the two hard ones.
You knucklehead.
Top five other than Trey Tucker
and Tyquan Thornton.
So far we have
Ameca Buka and George Pickens.
We need three more
fantasy points per target leaders
at wide receiver.
I have almost no idea.
Zayflowers.
Two more guesses.
We need numbers one, two, and five.
Kook and Akua.
Three, two, one.
Say a name.
Drake London.
All right, Jamie.
We've got three left on the board.
Top five wide receivers and fantasy points per target.
Quinn Johnson.
Heath wins the round.
Number one, Amon Rae St. Brown.
Number five, because number two is very surprising to me.
Number five, Jackson, Smith, and Jigba.
Yes.
And number two is D.K. Metcalf.
That makes sense.
That makes sense.
Scoring touchdowns.
One long run.
Not getting a lot of targets at all.
By the way, the way to have given, take it from the game show guy.
The way to have asked that question is, aside from Trey Tucker and Tyquan Thornton,
who are the top five in fantasy
That's exactly what I was going to do
and then they told me not to say it
and so I didn't.
That's what you get for listening today.
Yeah, well, there you go.
He deserved a win after getting the...
Oh, yeah, I'm glad.
I was going to ask you to throw it, Jamie.
Dave, who do you want to compete against this round?
Jamie or Heath?
Let's make it Jamie so that way Heath's waiting for...
Yeah, that's already won one.
Yeah, that's true. That's true.
Okay.
Top five answers are on the board.
I'm looking for team pass attempts per game leaders.
I heard Jamie
Cowboys
They are number two
Dave you have a chance to get the number one answer
Tampa Bay
All right
Pass or play Jamie
Of course
Speaking of pass
Dave top five answers are on the board
Team pass attempts per game
The Rams
They're number four
We have Dallas at two and Rams at four
Chiefs
they're number five
I can't believe
I'm doing this well
Chicago
it's per game right
not total
it's per game
by the way I remove numbers
four and six
from
all right so so far
we have Dallas
the Rams in Kansas City
we're looking for number one
and number three
pass attempts per game
Minnesota
Minnesota
through about 42 passes
the first two weeks
with McCarthy
Um, one more guess.
Miami.
Three, two, one. Miami.
Not a bad guess.
All right, Jamie, your chance to steal.
Two left on the board.
A he knows.
You have ten seconds.
Oh, there's an, yes.
It's not the Bengals.
How about the San Francisco 49ers?
Number one, San Francisco 49ers.
How about the Cleveland?
Number three.
Cleveland Browns. The Saints are not top five. I don't know where they are.
So it's Niners 1, Dallas 2, Cleveland, Rams, Kansas City.
I don't know if I buy the Rams. So the last two weeks have been super past heavy for them.
They were kind of run heavy before that.
All right. Last one. It is Dave versus Heath for the championship.
This is not a fantasy question.
Oh, good. Top five NFL teams, point differential leader.
leaders.
Dave.
Dave.
Buffalo.
That's number five.
Heath,
you have a chance
to beat that.
The Colts.
Colts are number one,
74, plus 74.
Pass or play, Heath.
I'll let Dave have a shot at it.
Really?
Okay.
You only have three to get here.
We've got numbers one and five.
Colts and Bills.
We're looking for the leaders
and point differential.
I hate this game.
Tampa. I'll go to Tampa again.
Oh, Buffalo.
Tampa has the most close.
I know, I know.
Buffalo, wait, didn't you already say Buffalo?
If they're fifth, then I guess I said Buffalo.
You did.
I think I have to.
No, they're not on there twice is what you're telling.
That's another X.
Yeah, that should be another X.
Yeah.
Wait, you said Bill's twice?
Yeah.
I said Bill's twice.
What about the team in Orchard Park?
Five, four, three, two, one.
There's nothing I can say to.
Just say a name.
All right, Heath.
We've already got the Colts and the Bills.
We're looking for a top five team in point differential.
For the win, Heath Cummings.
Are the lions on there?
The lions are number two.
Heath always wins.
Fantasy feud.
Congratulations.
Thanks.
I feel like that was maybe my, my best performance.
Like, I'm going to, I'm going to clip this one.
It's going to play this one when I go in the fantasy view the whole thing.
Way to go, my friend.
Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Just rewind a second.
Oh, please.
Let me tell you this from the game show guy.
Yeah, right.
All right, that was fun.
Thank you guys.
Thank you everybody for watching and listening.
Good luck in your, in your leagues as we get it started tomorrow night.
with the big game.
And have a great day, everybody.
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