Fantasy Football Today - Trade Talk! Buy the Bucs? Sell Stevenson? (10/26 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 26, 2022

Kicking off the show with our favorite buy low (1:50) and sell high (6:40) guys. Buy low on Chris Godwin! Sell high on Rhamondre Stevenson if you can get great value for him (but it's OK to hold Steve...nson!). Then we've got your news and notes (12:10) and some trade deadline talk (13:10). Should you be holding onto Kareem Hunt or anyone else ahead of next week's NFL trade deadline? ... Previewing Ravens-Bucs (20:06)! Are we considering sitting Lamar Jackson or Tom Brady? Is Gus Edwards a player to trust this week? ... Dedicating the rest of our show to trade talk, we read your buy low (35:00) and sell high (39:15) suggestions. Find out if we agree or disagree! Then we're playing a new game called "Follow the Leader" (44:00) which somehow involves Halloween candy, and we finish by ranking players rest of season (55:50). Travis Etienne vs. Ken Walker. Jaylen Waddle vs. Deebo Samuel. Chris Olave vs. Michael Pittman ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. What's up, everybody? Wednesday morning. Welcome to the show. If you're watching on YouTube, hit that like button. If you're not watching, don't hit anything. Enjoy your drive. Focus on the road. And we're going to have some fun today. Talk and trade on fantasy football today. Are you guys ready for a fun new game? Yes. Did you create this game i did i'd like to change my answer no i can't wait then it's it's only going to be good if it's awful so that's fantastic yeah i think is it called the circle of trust game no it's that we're definitely not doing that game again
Starting point is 00:02:17 uh but i think i think it'll be good we also have a new heath. So we're going to do a sell high or Heath Cy today. We also have buy low or heck no, which we could, you know, kind of maybe turn into like hell yeah or like hell yeah or blah. I don't know. So we're going to have some fun today with sound effects. We're going to talk about the Thursday night game, which is a pretty interesting one from a starter sit perspective. You throw in Gus Edwards back out there against the Bucks defense. You go in with Tom Brady,
Starting point is 00:02:49 who's got two games with more than 17 fantasy points this year. Lamar Jackson, four straight games with 18 or fewer fantasy points. No, yeah, his touchdown numbers
Starting point is 00:02:58 have been insane. I think he had 10 touchdowns in the first three games and three in the last four. So, yeah, that'll break down that game. Let's start, though, with a little trade talk. Your favorite buy low, your favorite sell high.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Raise your hand if you'd like to go first with your favorite buy low. Oh, Heath was first. Heath, you're up. It is Chris Godwin. This is the buy low of the season. Second in targets in the entire NFL since he returned from his hamstring injury, has not scored a touchdown all season long. The efficiency has not been as good. That's going to creep back up. And there's a few of these guys that we just should have, and we talked about it
Starting point is 00:03:37 at the beginning of the year. We didn't even know if Chris Godwin would play week one. Probably shouldn't have played week one. Things might've gone better, but we just talked about how they are going to be better in the second half than they are in the first half. I thought he'd be better in the first half than he's been so far. But if somebody had Chris Godwin on their team, it's not been a pleasurable experience. Go get Chris Godwin.
Starting point is 00:03:57 The explosion is coming. Okay. And, you know, it hasn't been that bad in PPR. 11.5 to 15.5 fantasy points in all four games. Just to follow up, you talked about the efficiency. I talked about this on the Monday show. Everything is down for him.
Starting point is 00:04:13 The ADOT is down, and yet the catch rate is way down. The yards per target, the yards per catch, the route depth is down. When I see that, I wonder, is he still the same player? Can we count on him getting back to that form? Because the targets are incredible.
Starting point is 00:04:32 And the PPR floor is really good. So even if he doesn't peak, it's still good. Even if he's not the same player, he's Keenan Allen. And the catch rate's going to rebound. He's not going to run six-yard routes and catch 50% of his targets all season long.
Starting point is 00:04:50 He nearly had what might have ended up being a long touchdown last week. He was just off with Brady on a deep fade. And this is a good matchup for him. The Ravens have not been good against slot receivers. 75% catch rate to slot receivers. How about 5.6 yards after catch per reception to slot receiver?
Starting point is 00:05:09 Both of those in the bottom 10 in the league. There's an opportunity here. And the reason why I think like his, his eight outs down and all that other stuff is because Brady's getting rid of the ball quick. He, I don't think Brady is very trustful of his protection anymore. He's always,
Starting point is 00:05:24 and he really should be because they're not doing that bad of a job, but it feels like the MO of this passing game is get the ball out quick. And when he does have time to throw, it's, it's going Mike Evans way downfield more so than Godwin's way that changed on one play last week. So when I just talked about, but I agree,
Starting point is 00:05:41 I think if you can get Chris Godwin on the cheap, he's a good one to get. All right. Godwin for teeth. And I would just say like his, his eight odd.6.8 it was 7.3 last year right but yeah it is low but it was a lot higher than that two years ago so it's lower not much lower but it's lower the route depth is lower the catch rate is weird so hopefully they can get on the same page a little bit seemed like they were a little bit off uh in week seven all right dave
Starting point is 00:06:02 who's your favorite by low my favorite by low is someone you can't even use in week eight because he's on IR, but he's expected to be off of IR by week nine. And it's Cordero Patterson. And the timing is good to go get him because he's going to be cheap because he's still a week away from coming back. And you can go to your waiver wire and hopefully find somebody that can get you through this week, whether it's somebody as good as Gus Edwards or somebody as, as low end as Michael Carter might be, or maybe even somebody worse than that. You find somebody to just plug in and use in week eight. And then hopefully
Starting point is 00:06:33 fingers crossed he's back in week nine. Can't guarantee it, but by the looks of his social media, he's running at full speed. He's looking strong. The Falcons rush efficiency has been terrible since he left. So I think he's got a very obvious role when he comes back and their schedule starting in week nine, pretty good for at least the next two or three games. And then I think by that point, if he's his old self, um, and I mean old self, uh, I think he's going to end up being a must start fantasy running back another player that you can get on the cheap right now. Okay. Chris Godwin for Heath.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Cordero Patterson for Dave is our favorite by Lowe's. I know Aaron Jones was a guy we gave you last week. I can't remember. I think you guys crushed it. Zeke. Yeah, I think you crushed it last week. Zeke was another one. Okay.
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Starting point is 00:07:50 check it out. Fantasy Football Today DFS. All right, Heath, you can go first again. Your favorite sell high. I do want to say before I give a name that like this year in particular, the idea of selling high feels almost impossible. There are so few good players at any position that giving up someone who has both been good for this year and was not terrible last week. Well, first off, you've got like six running back, six receivers,
Starting point is 00:08:20 two tight ends and three quarterbacks to choose from. It's, it's a, it's a disaster. I mean, people have talked about it. Scoring's down 22%. We've got eight quarterbacks who've scored 20 fantasy points per game. It's a terrible year of fantasy football scoring.
Starting point is 00:08:37 So it is more difficult to give up guys who are in your lineup producing. That being said, I think there's probably a good sell high opportunity on Ramondre Stevenson. He's been an absolute stud without Damian Harris. First game back was a game script that was clearly not a Damian Harris game script. This doesn't look like a particularly good offense. And I would guess at some point, it's going to be a closer split than it was last week, and Damian Harris could still steal goal line carries. So if I could get high-end number two value for Ramondre Stevenson, I believe for the season right now, he's a top 12 running back,
Starting point is 00:09:15 then I would be happy to do that. Okay. Ramondre Stevenson, that was one of the ones that our listeners submitted as well. So I think people are on the same page as you. You've got to get a lot. Ramondre Stevenson for Heath. Dave, who are we selling high on? I would sell high on Zeke, assuming that you were okay at the same pages. You got to get a lot. Ramondre Stevenson for Heath. Dave, who are we selling high on? I would sell high on Zeke, assuming that you were okay at the running back spot. If he's your third running back,
Starting point is 00:09:32 or maybe even your second and your third running back is someone who's just okay. See what you can get for Ezekiel Elliott coming off of a two touchdown game. 34% of his PPR fantasy points this year have been touchdowns. Clear definition of a touchdown dependent running back. He's on a good team and his offensive line is better than we thought it would be.
Starting point is 00:09:49 But he's still very inefficient, especially compared to Tony Pollard. Pollard had a lot of work last week, more than I think he had in any game this season. You can correct me if I'm wrong. But I wonder if there will be more of a 50-50-ish split between those two. And Pollard has seen some short yardage touches as well. He also has one target in his last three games. So he's like a double sell-eye in PPR. Now, in saying all that, if you've got Zeke and you don't have a good running back to go in his place,
Starting point is 00:10:18 if you were to trade him, then I don't blame you for hanging on to him. And I think he still has good value for however long he stays healthy, for however long the offensive line is good. But he's going to need to keep scoring, and I don't know if that's something that you want to really clutch to when it comes to one of your running backs when you're thinking about the rest of the season. Okay, to recap, Chris Godwin's a buy low.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Cordero Patterson is a buy low. Ramondre Stevenson is a sell high. Got to get something really good. And Ezekiel Elliott is a sell high. Would you rather have Cordero Patterson or E buy low. Ramondre Stevenson is a sell high. Got to get something really good. And Ezekiel Elliott is a sell high. Would you rather have Cordaro Patterson or Ezekiel Elliott rest of season? I have Zeke one or two spots higher on the trade chart. Yeah. Yeah, I'd rather have Zeke.
Starting point is 00:10:57 I don't think there's really a big gap between the three of them, though. Ramondre, Zeke, and Patterson? Yeah. Okay. Ramondre is the one you could get the most for in trade, though. think there's really a big gap between the three of them though remandre's reekin patterson yeah okay remandre is the one you could get the most foreign trade though right i think the perceived value on him is much higher than the other two okay i don't know that the actual value rest of season will be that much higher than the other two i almost wonder if i have patterson too high on the trade chart i've got him ahead of, you know, Benjamin, Brian Robinson, Pollard, Gus. What do you think? Is he ahead of those guys?
Starting point is 00:11:31 Yeah, ahead of them. In perceived value, I don't feel like he is, but in actual rest of season value, I could believe it if he's back. The whole mystery is, and I appreciate the investigative work on the social media. I hope that's true,
Starting point is 00:11:49 but we don't know when he's coming back. That's a great point. Yeah, he's been, and Tyler Algier really has not been running the ball nearly as well as Cordaro Patterson has. So it's not like he should lose a lot of touches, but they don't throw the ball to anyone, especially their running backs.
Starting point is 00:12:06 So he's another guy who's not really going to stand out in PPR, which is just a little unusual. That's probably what you thought you were going to get from Patterson when you drafted him. And it's like they run the ball as much or if not more than everybody.
Starting point is 00:12:19 But he's 31 and he got hurt at the end of last year and he got hurt at the beginning of this year and he got hurt at the beginning of this year, even if he's 100% healthy the rest of the season, what do you think their plan is for how many touches you give Patterson? How many touches they're going to give Patterson? They're going to give him a ton. I think Algier separated from the rest of the muckety-muck that they have last week.
Starting point is 00:12:40 He played 60% of the snaps. But I don't think that they're ready to entrust in him when they've got Patterson. I think they're going to use Patterson as long as he's available. I think they would. They need Patterson to be ready for the playoffs and he can't survive. I don't know why you guys are laughing.
Starting point is 00:12:59 They're currently tied for first place and their next six games are against terrible teams except for one. I'm laughing not at you. I'm laughing at the reality that you can't rule them off from being a wildcard team. Why? Maybe even the division winner.
Starting point is 00:13:14 I can't rule it out. Why? It sounds silly, but I get it. Do the Giants have to play in the NFC East? It would be so much better if they were just in the NFC South. All right. So those are some good trade candidates. A lot more later on in the show.
Starting point is 00:13:28 News and notes. A lot for Thursday night, obviously, because those are the only teams practicing and giving practice reports. Gus Edwards was limited. He's going to play, but they list him as limited. Rashad Bateman, same thing. Ronnie Stanley, their left tackle.
Starting point is 00:13:41 He's questionable for this game at Tampa Bay on Thursday. Julio Jones was limited. He's questionable for this game at Tampa Bay on Thursday. Julio Jones was limited. He might play. Tampa Bay's secondary is worth watching here. Carlton Davis, Sean Murphy Bunting, Antoine Winfield all did not practice. And those are very important players for them. Akeem Hicks was listed as limited, which is a good sign. He did not practice at all last week. So their run defense has been very inconsistent. The Bucs were used to it being among the best in football. They signed Akeem Hicks in the offseason
Starting point is 00:14:10 to replace Ndamukong Su. They've gotten very little from him. Hopefully he can make his way back. Those are your Thursday night injury updates. Kansas City defensive end Frank Clark has suspended two games for violating the personal conduct policy. Frank Clark, very important player for the Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:14:26 By this week, he'll miss Tennessee in week nine and Jacksonville in week 10. Saints cornerback Bradley Roby is on IR with an ankle injury. Just a reminder, IR is a minimum of four games out. And the Saints secondary is extremely thin right now. Tennessee wide receiver Kyle Phillips on IR with an ankle injury. And the Cowboys trying to shore up their run defense acquired Jonathan Hankins, a defensive tackle
Starting point is 00:14:49 from the Raiders for a sixth round pick. We're going to preview that game shortly and then after that we'll talk all trade value stuff basically and play a new game which involves Halloween candy so you guys need to be thinking about your favorite and least favorite Halloween candies.
Starting point is 00:15:07 But here's our email of the day. Something I didn't really talk about yesterday, but very relevant. Frank, actually Dave, this email is from Frank. Says, I don't pretend to be a producer. Billy Madison. I don't pretend to be a producer, so please ignore me if you don't want to do this.
Starting point is 00:15:23 But I'm not going to ignore you. We want to do it. Can you do a quick segment on players you'd grab off waivers now or buy low now leading up to the trade deadline next week? Rumors on Hamler, Judy, Kareem Hunt, etc. It's a good question. The trade
Starting point is 00:15:37 deadline is a real thing in football now, which is very fun. Who should we be looking at here to gain or lose value? I guess as the trade deadline approaches. Dave's face. Yeah, we should go back.
Starting point is 00:15:51 If you're not watching on YouTube, this is why you should, because my, I made the, Hmm. When Adam said the trade deadline is a real thing in the NFL. Now Dave's Dave's face went. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I like there have been two trades. I used to be zero of consequence i would not be surprised if there was not another trade of fantasy football consequence before the trade deadline i hope there is but i just i don't want people to go too far out of their way speculating on what could happen at the trade deadline when maybe absolutely nothing happens. That being said, Chase Claypool, Kareem Hunt, I guess Cam Akers, maybe. Cam Akers hasn't been traded yet. I have a hard time believing.
Starting point is 00:16:41 Elijah Moore? I think he's going to get traded now. Zero chance on Moore? I don't believe they will. They wouldn't trade Denzel Mims. They can't trade Elijah Moore right now. Agreed. Kareem Hunt, I think, is a big one. Just don't drop
Starting point is 00:16:53 him. Just don't drop Kareem Hunt. I got into a mini beef in the YouTube comments with somebody who said that we were crazy for recommending dropping Kareem Hunt for Gus Edwards. Oh, I don't think that's crazy. I think if that, if Kareem hunts legitimately your worst player or your worst running back and you need a starter, I'm starting Edwards over hunt for the foreseeable future. The problem is I get that guy. Like I, first off, I think the crazy thing you did was arguing with somebody in the YouTube comments,
Starting point is 00:17:25 but yeah, I don't, because Edwards doesn't have cream hunt upside and I'm not, and I don't know that their weekly expectation is more than like a point or two difference. See, that's where I think we're a little bit off because I've seen hunt. I I've studied him literally every week. I write about him every week and it used to be, he gets 15 touches reliably. And if he scores, you're going to love it. And if not, well, at least he'll give you like 60 total yards last two weeks. They have not used him at all. And I wonder if he is falling out of favor a little bit in Cleveland. And if he stays through the trade deadline, I'm not sure he's going to rebound and be
Starting point is 00:18:09 a 15 touch guy unless something happens to Chubb. So I can't wait for that. Like, it's already too late if you want to get Gus Edwards, unless your waivers run tonight. I think that you can't wait when it comes to running backs off the waiver wire, man. There's too many other people in your league who want them. So I completely understand having Gus ahead of Kareem Hunt rest of season. I agree with it. I said it.
Starting point is 00:18:33 That being said, yes, Hunt could get traded. Where could he go and have instant top 20 fantasy value? Anywhere, almost. Which team is trading for a 27 year old running back with dwindling efficiency bad pr it's the only team i could think of i think we're past the bad pr thing i hope so but i mean it's still going to be a thing it's going to be tied to him for as long as he's in the nfl But no, the Rams are the first one. Give me another.
Starting point is 00:19:09 Take the rest of the show. I'm sure there's another one. I'll think of another one. Give me another team that's still believing in a playoff spot that needs a running back. And that would give up a late pick. Okay, look, let's move on oh the panthers no no they're not competing oh come on no they're not competing although they can't be that far back
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Starting point is 00:21:35 Alright, so the Tampa Bay secondary is beat up. There's good defense so far. Six and yards per play allowed, but really shorthanded, perhaps, in this game. Let's talk about the Ravens first. And let's talk about the quarterbacks, actually. Let's go position by position here.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I see by your rankings you have no hesitation in starting Lamar Jackson despite four straight underwhelming games. Heath, discuss. No? Heath? Frozen? All right, Heath. Who would have internet connections at a time like this we'll uh we'll get heath back internet connection issues sorry okay uh can i discuss lamar jackson
Starting point is 00:22:14 and why you should still start i don't know i think we maybe we'll just sit here in silence and wait for heath uh no you know it's a better idea dave why don't you talk about it go ahead okay here's what I think. No, just kidding. Okay. He's got too much upside. You know that he's got 30 point potential. It's a short week. He's still going to continue to run the ball. He only attempted 16 passes last week. I don't think that's going to be the norm for him. I do think the Ravens are going to try and control the clock and run the ball with Gus. I like Gus. We'll talk about him in a minute, but you know, with Lamar Jackson, he's going to get, first of all, he's going to get numbers with Mark Andrews last week,
Starting point is 00:22:48 total anomaly. And hopefully Rashad Bateman's okay. Hopefully Duvernay gets involved a little bit more and Lamar Jackson, you just keep rolling with him. I know he's been bad for the past few weeks. I don't think he's doing anything. That's like completely changed him as a fantasy quarterback that makes you go um yeah i better start derrick car instead i think right i don't even know how much you want to get into it but it's just the touchdowns of the first for first three weeks lamar jackson was part of every offensive touchdown they scored every pass every passing touchdown every rushing touchdown lamar jackson was part of it. In the last four games,
Starting point is 00:23:27 you're starting to see the running backs do more. Dobbins, Drake, Edwards, they have a combined five rushing touchdowns. Jackson has two passing, no rushing in the last four games, but it just seems kind of fluky.
Starting point is 00:23:38 But also their offense isn't scoring that much. They haven't scored more than 23 points in any of those games. Heath, go ahead. Yeah, it's like just as the first three weeks were not indicative They haven't scored more than 23 points in any of those games. Heath, go ahead. Yeah, it's like just as the first three weeks were not indicative of what was going to happen the next three weeks, I don't believe the last three weeks are indicative
Starting point is 00:23:53 of what's going to happen the next three weeks. Last four weeks. But, okay. All right, fine. Start Lamar Jackson. Plus the matchup is favorable. Yeah. How about Brady?
Starting point is 00:24:05 Start or sit? Start him. He's a starter, but I mean, there's bus potential. I can tell you, I've spent more time studying Tom Brady this week than I have maybe at any other point since he was a young guy in the league. Last week, I don't think the Panthers did anything special to make him look bad. I think he made mistakes that made him look bad, but he also, everybody saw the drop touchdown
Starting point is 00:24:28 from Mike Evans. That was one of three plays that were really close to being huge. And then we would have no questions at all about bringing. Here's something that stood out to me. Um, this, this Ravens defense, they, they know how to get after quarterbacks, and they also know when to not get after quarterbacks. They barely blitzed and barely pressured Joe Burrow a few weeks back. They just played a lot of heavy zone defense and kind of dared him to throw into it, and Burrow didn't have 20 fantasy points. And I wonder if that's what they do against Brady,
Starting point is 00:24:59 because that's what a lot of teams have done against Brady, including the Panthers blitzed a little bit more than most defenses against Tampa Bay, but the Panthers didn't get a lot of pressure on him. Brady had time to throw and he had a lot of self-inflicted mistakes. So I wonder if the Ravens start out their game plan by just rushing for hoping that some guys get there and sack them, of course, but also having seven guys back and they've got a good secondary to try and make it hard on Brady to complete passes at any length, especially since they know
Starting point is 00:25:28 that Brady in his mind has to get rid of the ball quickly. One other historical fact, and you don't have to pay attention to this if you don't want to, he's played the Ravens under John Harbaugh 10 times in his career. He's thrown multiple touchdowns three times and top 300 yards four times. And I would argue that this is probably one of the, not the worst offenses that he's been dealing with as far as offensive line and everything else, but not one of the best either. So there there's bus potential for him.
Starting point is 00:25:57 He might come through with like two 75 and one. I just don't know if I have the stones to start Derek Carr. Oh, that's it. That's one for me. I have that decision to make. Carr versus Brady. I haven't made it yet. I don't know if I'm ready to start Carr. The one guy who I am ready to start is Tua. He's got healthy receivers and he's playing the Lions. I'll buy into that over Brady. Heath, Tua or Brady? Tua. Carr or Brady? Brady. Cous, or Brady? Tua. Carr or Brady?
Starting point is 00:26:25 Brady. Cousins or Brady? Brady. Cousins. Dak Prescott against the Bears or Brady? Brady. Dak. By the way, Dave, Tom Brady is being blitzed less percentage-wise,
Starting point is 00:26:44 less this season than at any point in the last 12 seasons. And it's the weirdest thing. No, it makes sense because you can probably get pressure with four. He does get rid of the ball quickly. Right. I mean, that's the real reason why. It is so obvious. It is a lack of weapons.
Starting point is 00:27:00 It is not Tom Brady. What do you mean? They don't have Gronk. They don't have Brown. They have, they don't have a... Relative to league average, he does not have a lack of weapons. I disagree.
Starting point is 00:27:12 First of all, if you look at the full season, Mike Evans has missed some time and got kicked out of a game. Chris Godwin has missed a lot of time. And I just don't think Godwin is the right, is Godwin right now. I mean, I watched it all last week. Godwin was not getting, Evans was getting open consistently. I really don't think Chris Godwin right now. I mean, I watched it all last week. Godwin was not getting open.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Evans was getting open consistently. I really don't think Chris Godwin was, and they are really not on the same page, those two. And look at the red zone numbers. His three seasons with goal-to-go numbers, right? Goal-to-go completion rate three seasons in Tampa Bay, 62%, 50%, 37.5%. Goal-to to go touchdown rate.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Oh, it was so frustrating last week. 48.9%, 41.7%, 31.3%. They are missing Rob Gronkowski and Antonio Brown. It's a big deal. Okay, but if Tom Brady needs Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, Rob Gronkowski, and Antonio Brown to be a good quarterback, then he's not a good quarterback. I disagree.
Starting point is 00:28:01 He is a very good quarterback. He makes throws that most quarterbacks cannot even dream of making. It's just, it's not Herbert or Tom Brady had better weapons this year. It doesn't. It's the point is he is not getting, he is not getting enough from his guys when they're healthy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Well, they haven't been healthy all year. That's the point. Same thing with this year. Who's had better talent helping him. Okay. Overall, then you might get me to say Brady, because if we're not, if we're taking injury out of it and what's happened so far this year, who's had better talent helping him? Okay, overall, then you might get me to say Brady.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Because if we're taking injury out of it and what's happened so far this year, then yeah, Brady definitely has. Who's offensive line's been better this year? He's had better than Herbert? I don't know about that. Offensive line-wise? I'm not sure if PFF would agree, but it kind of feels that way. No, I mean, his weapons?
Starting point is 00:28:42 I mean, Herbert, like Eckler's a big deal for Justin Herbert. Leonard Fournette just catches passes. Fournette's been catching passes. Catches passes. He doesn't really do anything with it. Eckler's a weapon. I'm starting Tom Brady without hesitation this week, and the quarterback position's so awful
Starting point is 00:28:55 that I can't see that changing in the next month. But to give him a free pass and say the problem is Tom Brady's weapons, it just seems insane insane and his line no i don't think it's the line no well he threw he threw like four different two hoppers in that yes no he threw two straight awful pass three two three two he threw two straight four hoppers they were both to completely covered wide receivers. They were throwaway passes in the pocket. He just couldn't. Did you see, are those the passes inside the 10 that you're thinking?
Starting point is 00:29:30 Yes. Those two back to back to Evans and Godwin. I think, I don't think he meant to two hop them. There is no chance that Patrick Mahomes doesn't fit that into the window there. Patrick Mahomes might be the best quarterback. Okay. I'm saying Tom Brady is still one of the best quarterbacks. He threw two balls up the seam in the
Starting point is 00:29:47 tightest windows. If he's still one of the best quarterbacks, then we shouldn't have any questions about starting him. But it's not because he just doesn't have any weapons. He hasn't had good weapons so far this year. This year he has had limited weaponry. That's what I'm saying. So far. Compared to what he's had
Starting point is 00:30:03 the past two years, I agree. Yeah, big time. But I don't think that's the only thing. Alright. I think it's a little bit of everything. Running backs, guys. I just imagine Aaron Rodgers, if you listen to our podcast, hearing us giving excuses to Tom Brady for not having enough weapons. Aaron Rodgers says, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:30:20 But no, but I mean Evans missed time, got ejected, Godwin missed time. It just hasn't been the same. You know, for what it's worth, Brady's missed time got ejected godwin missed time it just hasn't been the same you know um for what it's worth brad has missed time he's been a red zone guy for him it's an end zone guy for him all right so the running backs let's start start for net right just start them just start them both all right well okay gus where do you have gus ranked i've got him as a top 24 running back in non-ppr and just on the fence in full PPR. Okay, I shouldn't have said start on both,
Starting point is 00:30:48 but yeah, I guess it's fine. Whatever. No, I mean, you can't quite say that. Did you start Raheem Mostert over him? Oh, yeah. It's a borderline top 12 running back. You mean Raheem Mostert of the week? How about Devin Singletary against the Packers?
Starting point is 00:31:05 I'd go Singletary too. Yep. How about Najee Harris at the Eagles? I'll start Gus in non-PPR. I might start Gus in full PPR too. Okay, you're resending. I will rethink Gus in full PPR. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:23 I was really fired up over this Tom Brady weapons thing and wasn't thinking. How about Gabe Davis against Green Bay or Gus Edwards? Gabe. Yeah. I am curious to see because Gus Edwards had 10 carries in the first half and six in the second half. Kenyon Drake out-carried him in the second half.
Starting point is 00:31:42 And a short week. Are you worried at all about the workload for Gus? No. The opposite. Yes. He played 36% of the snaps and saw 36% of the rush attempts. If they run the ball 35 times instead of 50, he might have 10 carries. I think they give him more work
Starting point is 00:31:58 this week. It was his first game back. He deserves a pass for that. On a short week, though, that's the only question, Dave. No. I think that's why they tried to let up on him a little bit. He played 23 snaps and had 16 carries, and I think they wanted to keep him relatively fresh. You're getting a running back who's only played one game, played 23 snaps, coming in against a Tampa Bay run defense
Starting point is 00:32:19 that just made Deontay Foreman and Chuba Hubbard look like Larry Zalkaka and Mercury Morris. Those guys aren't as good as they looked. Tampa Bay's defense, especially if they can get Gus into the second level, oh man, he's going to have some huge runs. And I think he's a great candidate to score. I love the fresh legs on Thursday night. It worked out for Eno last week.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I'm kind of hitting myself over not having Eno ranked high enough. I'm not going to make that mistake again in non-PPR with Gus Edwards. Okay. Well, you know those Thursday night games are always so good for fantasy, right? I mean, come on. That Bucs defense is going to be tired. Gus is not going to be tired. I just think we've got to keep an eye on Akeem Hicks, too.
Starting point is 00:33:00 I don't know how much you care about that. No, that'll make some difference, and we've got to see just who's fresh and ready to go for the Ravens on their offensive line, but I was very impressed with how they blocked for Gus. Gus did a good job following his blocks. I think some of how
Starting point is 00:33:15 he did, too, had to do with how Cleveland's run defense is. Certainly inside the red zone, both of his touchdowns, the Browns' defense was sleeping at the wheel. All right, come on, guys. Don't guise me. No, all right, come on, let's get to it.
Starting point is 00:33:30 He wants to turn up and guise me. Heath, you can talk about the wide receivers. You can talk about the wide receivers. Go ahead. You should start Mike Evans. You should start Chris Godwin. You should not start any Tampa Bay wide receivers. Any Baltimore.
Starting point is 00:33:44 You should not start any Baltimore wide receivers. Baltimore wide receivers, yes. If you can't get the teams right, Heath, I can't give you the... I'm not asking for more. Start Mark Andrews. Heath, you get Cade Otten. Here's your stat of the game. Baltimore has allowed 11.6 or more PPR fantasy points to
Starting point is 00:33:59 five tight ends in seven games. They are Conklin, Gasicki, Hurst, Bellinger, and Njoku. None of them had more than seven targets. Starters hit Kate Otten, who has just a 12% target share in two games without Cameron Braid, but still good production.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Yeah, I'd rather stream Irv Smith. I'd rather stream Greg Dulcich. I would not start Kate Otten over Kyle Pitts. But other than that, he's fine. Dave, Cade Otten or Kyle Pitts? I'll take Otten. Okay, yeah, he's giving you about 10 to 11 PPR fantasy points in each of the two games that Brady has missed.
Starting point is 00:34:36 But Brady has thrown so many passes in those games, so he doesn't have a high target share. If Brady keeps throwing 40-plus times, it should be good for Otten. He's only 11% rostered as of right now and Baltimore's DST start or sit they've been great I'd start top 12 option okay top 10 actually all right we're gonna take a break when we come back it's all trade we'll be right back on fantasy football today did you know that Ontario, utility damage happens 19 times a day? That's over 4,222 incidents a year.
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Starting point is 00:35:48 Alex says Kyle Pitts. Would you buy low on Kyle Pitts? He is anticipating a quarterback change soon. And then he says, parentheses, I'm just trying to make myself feel better about drafting Kyle Pitts. It's a heck no.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Heath, you there again he froze poor heath he's so the reason why i said heck no on pits is because i think eventually people are going to start dropping him so what what would you give up what would you seriously trade for cow pits okay if you're streaming tight ends anyway, and here comes Kyle Pitts who's had maybe, what, two, three games this year with 10 PPR points? Is that right? What do you give up for a guy like that who doesn't have a ton of upside? I don't think you give up that much.
Starting point is 00:36:40 You almost want to wait until somebody drops him. Heath, buy low or heck no on Kyle Pitts? Buy low on Dynasty. Heck no on Redraft. Okay, buy low or heck no on Leonard Fournette. Do you guys even consider him a buy low coming off a terrible game? I mean, if you can, you should. But most people who have Leonard Fournette still value him as a top 12 fantasy running back.
Starting point is 00:37:03 I would rather have Leonard Fourard fournette than um ezekiel elliott for sure oh yeah would you guys have fournette or etn oh oh etn role reversal here uh yeah i think i still think i'd have fournette but it's really close i was gonna ask fournette or the young emerging ken walker uh damian pierce travis etn all of to ask Fournette or the young emerging Ken Walker, Damian Pierce, Travis Etienne. All of them over Fournette. Rookies and Etienne. But maybe you could turn Fournette into Ramondre Stevenson.
Starting point is 00:37:35 Or vice versa. Turn Ramondre into Fournette. There you go. Okay. Mike wants to know, would you buy low on A.J. Dillon? Buy low or heck no? Heck no. I'd put him in the same category as Pitts. Wait for somebody to drop him and then just put him on your bench.
Starting point is 00:37:52 From Gabagool, would you buy low on Khalil Herbert? I don't think anybody's cutting him, so you would have to give up something for Khalil Herbert. If the something to get him is really minimal, if it's a bench player, I don't hate it. Heath? Yeah, I mean, that's a weird one because he was good and just played. He's probably got a bigger role now than he did two or three weeks ago. So I guess you're just hoping he takes the entire job from David Montgomery.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I don't think that's very likely without an injury. It would have to be very cheap. I think that's what Herbert and Dylan kind of have in common is that they've got that Kareem hunt upside. If the running back that they share with disappears for a few games. Yeah. I do. I like Herbert more than Dylan right now. I think I do too.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I agree. That's the thing. No one's going to cut Khalil Herbert unless they just don't have the bench space to carry him. People are going to start cutting A.J. Dylan because the Packers aren't using him that much. All right. Next one.
Starting point is 00:39:01 If you could turn, let's say you're good at receiver and you've got Bateman or Cooks, you might be able to trade one of those guys for Khalil Herbert. Okay, next one from Good Citizen. Buy low or heck no on James Conner? If I could buy low in the bench bench player range then yeah absolutely there's there's still top 15 touchdown dependent upside here yay for top 15 touchdown potential so would you give up maybe jacoby myers for james connor in a ppr league oh yeah probably but i i PPR league? Oh, yeah. Probably. But I also can't help but think that Eno is the
Starting point is 00:39:46 running back of choice in Arizona, and that when Conor comes back, he's the 1B and Eno is 1A. Would you give up Christian Kirk for James Conor? No. Definitely not in PPR. Probably not
Starting point is 00:40:02 in non-PPR. All right, let's do Sel High or Heath Sy. Sel High or Heath Sy. Our first Definitely not in PPR. Probably not in non-PPR. All right, let's do sell high or heath sigh. Sell high or heath sigh. Our first one comes from Jonathan King. Sell high or heath sigh on Gus Edwards. Sell high. If you can. From Aaron.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Sell high on James Robinson. He is washed. I kind of agree. If you can can you should I think you'll have an easier time selling higher on Gus and Michael Carter than you would on James Robinson
Starting point is 00:40:33 yeah I don't know if but Carter might be a buy low now like I think a perception will be that Robinson's eventually going to be the best running back in that backfield and I don't believe that so yeah I agree
Starting point is 00:40:44 I'd rather have Carterter than robinson so we're buying low on carter i think is going to be really hard to do would you buy high on carter right now would you give up uh adam theelin and ppr for michael carter probably not but i'd rather have Carter than Gus. I think I'd rather have Gus, but it's kind of close between those two. I wouldn't give up Thielen and PPR for any running back that we've talked about in the last 30 seconds. How about this one? Buy low, sell high,
Starting point is 00:41:20 sorry, sell high or Heath Sy on Saquon Barkley? No. Heath sigh. Don't sell high. Yeah, you probably shouldn't. I could understand just not wanting to roster running backs. Because eventually he's going to get hurt.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Sure. Sure. Right. How about if I come at you with Leonard Fournette and DeAndre Hopkins just for Saquon Barkley? What do you think? See you, Saquon. I agree. That's an example of selling high on Saquon,
Starting point is 00:41:57 but that's the type of sell high I'm looking to do. I think let's give a little bit of love to the running backs. The fact that Jacksonville's got a much better backfield now. Ken Walker's been great. Damian Pierce has been great. And he's got three games where he's got two or more. I think he's got, what, nine catches in his last three games or something like that.
Starting point is 00:42:19 Yeah, it stinks to lose Brees Hall. That's a crusher. But at least you get Travis Etienne sort of as a replacement. I don't know. I mean, I feel like running back is not so bad. The injuries are always a big concern, but quarterback really is terrible right now. Tight end is
Starting point is 00:42:35 as bad as I've ever seen it, I feel. I feel like running back has gotten a lot better. From the first few weeks of the season, all the great running backs were struggling, basically. And now I think running back's really not so bad you guys feel that way yes no i do no and and i'll give you the proof of that uh i've got james robinson brian robinson kareem hunt and a handful of leagues not all three on every roster but at least one of those guys it feels like on every roster and i'm trying to trade those guys into something that helps my team at like wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Cause you know me, I'm never drafting a ton of wide receivers and I'm having a hard time moving them because everybody else in the league seems to have two competent running backs that they feel good about starting. So it's, it's, it is definitely deeper than it's been in the past. I agree with your sentiment. One other thing on just on the topic of the Jaguars running backs, there's got to be an opportunity for someone else to play behind ETN. ETN's not going to play 100% of the snaps, otherwise it'll break down.
Starting point is 00:43:37 They've got Jermichael Hasty behind him. They've got Snoop Conner behind him. I've made a play to get Hasty on a couple of my benches just to see what happens. He's been serviceable before. He's played in passing downs roles before. So in deeper leagues, you can look to grab him off the waiver wire. I'm pretty sure he's still available in a lot of leagues. Oh, he is.
Starting point is 00:43:55 All right. A couple more here. Sell higher. He sigh on Josh Jacobs from Eric Eric Heath sigh Heath sigh. I agree with the Heath Sy, but if someone offers me Fournette and Hopkins, using the earlier example to get Jacobs, I'm taking it. Who would you not give up for Fournette and Hopkins?
Starting point is 00:44:15 I mean, basically anyone. Eckler. You wouldn't give up Eckler for Fournette and Hopkins? Eckler and McCaffrey are probably the only two. Okay. Travis Kelsey? Cups close. All right, last one from Nick.
Starting point is 00:44:27 Sell high or heath sigh on Ken Walker? No. If someone wants to overpay, same thing with Saquon. I'd be happy to let him overpay, but I think he's a top 10 running back rest of the season. All right, so it's a heath sigh. Don't sell high on Ken Walker. Now we've got a new game.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Let's see if it goes well. It almost certainly will not. It is called follow the leader. And it is the Halloween candy edition. I'm going to ask you for the leader in a particular NFL statistic. Every time you guess right, you get to put any Halloween candy you want in your bucket. After
Starting point is 00:45:07 three wrong guesses, your opponent gets to put any disgusting Halloween candy in your bucket, and we will keep track of the buckets. Schaefer can keep track of the buckets and see who has a better one at the end of our game. Does that make sense? Yeah. You need to know your favorite Halloween candies and your least favorite
Starting point is 00:45:24 ones, and we'll see who has a better bucket. By the way, since Snickers is a frequent sponsor and has sponsored our draft-a-thon, let's just go. Look, we love them. They're going to be one of the good ones, but I don't think I have to tell you that because they're obviously an amazing candy.
Starting point is 00:45:38 I think we should start with a king-size Snickers in each of our buckets. Fair enough. You each get the free space, a king-size Snickers in your bucket. Okay. Fair enough. You each get it. It's the free space. A king size Snickers in your bucket. Okay. I like this game already. A right answer. You get to pick some candy. Gonna be a while indeed. Three wrong
Starting point is 00:45:52 answers. You get to put a bad one in your opponent's bucket. Who leads the NFL in passing yards per attempt? Heath. Go ahead. You can just shout answers, I think. Yeah, I don't know how this works.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Tua. Congratulations. You got it. The first guest, Tua Takamailoa, leads in passing yards per attempt. What candy would you like, Heath? I'll take a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:21 You've got a Snickers and a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup. Thomas, are you keeping track? Just give me a thumbs up backstage there. All right. Well, he's got it. Adam. I didn't know that we had to buzz in.
Starting point is 00:46:30 What you just sat there is silently for five seconds. I mean, I don't know. It wasn't five seconds. He said Heath at the jump and I didn't know whether I should just blurt out to her or not. Did you know the answer? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:41 I was going to guess to her. Well, I'm giving it to you. That's fine. Now. I. Now I know all the rules for Follow the Leader Halloween Candy Edition. I can't wait for Follow the Leader Thanksgiving Edition. Maybe. We'll see how this goes.
Starting point is 00:46:56 So just briefly on Tua, what does that stat mean to you? He is just ahead of Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Jalen Hurts, and Geno Smith to lead the NFL in yards per attempt, and he has only a 3.5% touchdown rate. What does this all mean to you? Jimmy Garoppolo has been a yards per attempt king for the past couple.
Starting point is 00:47:15 It's the best stat for him every year. That's because Kyle Shanahan's offense produces a lot of yak, and yak is really good for quarterbacks yards per attempt, and has Tyree kill and Jalen Waddle we should anticipate him continuing to have a very high yards per attempt but not quite this high he's only 15th in yak he's only 15th in yak per completion it's good it's not great he's actually throwing the ball downfield eighth in air yards per pass attempt so it's not just the short stuff turning into long stuff. It's a mix, which I think is good. But, but at the end of the day, Heath two only has one good fantasy game. Almost all of his production was against the Ravens. Yeah, that's a little bit fluky, but,
Starting point is 00:47:54 um, I, I think he's a top five quarterback this week, so I'm starting him. All right. I don't know him that high, but I do think he's a must start in the first three weeks of the season. Week one, 8.2. Week two, 9.4. That was the game against Baltimore. Week three against Buffalo, 10.3 yards per attempt. The two games since these played against Cincinnati, 7.9. And last week against Pittsburgh, 7.5.
Starting point is 00:48:17 I wonder if they're kind of changing their tune on what they want to do. He was really bad last week. He was very lucky he didn't have four interceptions. Yes. And he missed guys. And even when he completed passes, they were not in yakable spots for those guys to catch passes. I just, I think that was a blip.
Starting point is 00:48:35 And also, 7.5 yards per attempt is above average. Somebody asked me to take out the Baltimore game and see where he ranks. Well, I actually did that. Weeks 1, 3, and 7, Tua was 5th in yards per attempt, 4th in passer rating, 19th in touchdown rate. So pretty good to be 4th in passer rating and 19th in touchdown rate. He was 5th in week 7?
Starting point is 00:48:56 No, overall, weeks 1, 3, and 7, the other three games that Tua has played without leaving for injury, he is 5th in yards per attempt. Yeah. All right. Moving on. Heath, you got a delicious candy bucket there,
Starting point is 00:49:09 Dave, you already ate your Snickers. So you got nothing. Who leads the NFL in carries inside the five yard line among, among running backs. Jalen hurts his number one, who leads all running backs in carries inside the five yard line. Dave,
Starting point is 00:49:25 Dave. Yeah. I buzzed in twice jamal williams incorrect he's second um heath yeah um josh jacobs just keep guessing guys who? Who's got the most carries inside the five-yard line? Nick Chubb. Tied for second with Jamal Williams. You should get a list of the teams up. It will help you. AFC.
Starting point is 00:50:06 North or south? You both are wrong. Joe Mixon leads the NFL. I didn't want to lose my candy. Well, no, you don't lose your candy. If I guessed wrong, one more time I would have. You get a gross one added.
Starting point is 00:50:22 You don't lose. You weren't listening to the rules. Joe Mixon only has one touchdown despite having nine carries from inside the five-yard line. One touchdown from that range. All right, next up. Who leads the NFL in end zone targets? There are three players.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Actually, I'm sorry. Devontae Adams leads with 10. Who's next? There are three players tied with nine. Who has nine end zone targets? Wide receivers only or anybody? Anyone. Dave.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Dave. Elsie. That's two wrong guesses for both of you. You're one wrong guess away from getting some yucky stuff. Dave. Dave. DK Metcalf. He's one of them.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Way to go. All right, we got two more on the board. End zone target leaders after Devante Adams. Dave. Dave. Irfan Diggs. Oh, Heath. Put something gross in Dave's candy.
Starting point is 00:51:26 I'm going to give him a toothbrush. No, he's got to be candy. I disagree. I accept toothbrush as an answer. He's getting some terrible things in his bucket that I've got. Fine. Fine. Toothbrush.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Okay. Heath, you got any guess? Dave, you got any more guesses? Mike Evans. Oh, Dave, give him something gross. I once got a piece of bread for Halloween. You did not. I swear to God.
Starting point is 00:51:52 What kind of bread? White, at least? I think it was white. The person who answered the door didn't even know it was Halloween, didn't have any candy, went into his house, came back a minute later, and threw a piece of bread into my bag. Zach Ertz. Zach Ertz.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Oh. All right, we'll move on here. Wait a minute, I got one right. So don't I get a candy? Oh, yeah. Yeah, sure. Yes, you do get a candy. That's right.
Starting point is 00:52:19 What would you like? I will take a full stuffed sausage Giordano's pizza. I know where you go trick-or-treating. I'm treating myself, man. Give me one of those bad boys. The answers are Allen Robinson, DK Metcalf, and Cortland Sutton. They all have nine end zone targets. Allen Robinson has nine end zone targets.
Starting point is 00:52:40 And he has at least one in every game. So do you see buy low opportunities here on Allen Robinson, DK Metcalf, or Cortland Sutton? What do you think? Well, you've got washed, hurt, and no quarterback. Sutton nearly had a touchdown late last week. Gardner made a really good play on the ball. Otherwise, it would have been a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:53:03 He had nine targets last week. I would not panic if I had Sutton, but if you're in a league where somebody is panicking, yes, he's a buy low. All right. Who leads the NFL in yards per carry? Running backs. Running backs.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Dave. Yeah, and I'll just tell you, there are four running backs who are averaging more than six yards per carry. Can you name them? So those are the... Oh, we can name any of the four? Any of the four.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Hold on, I buzzed in already. That's okay. You can both get right answers. Go ahead, Dave. Ken Walker. Ken Walker is correct. Pick another candy. Khalil Herbert.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Khalil Herbert is actually number one. So yes, you both... All right, both of you pick something yummy. Burntons. I will take a of you pick something yummy. Burnt. I will take a bone in ribeye. OK, thank you guys for you. Rude the game this time. Not me.
Starting point is 00:53:53 Now we've got Khalil Herbert and Ken Walker. I'm making it better. Who are the other two running backs who have averaged six yards per carry? Nick Chubb. No. Oh, wait. I got another one. Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Travis Etienne. Yes. Go ahead wait. I got another one. Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave. Travis Etienne. Yes. Go ahead. What else do you want? Okay. I will take, hold on. I will take Oreo cookies on top of a 12-ounce chocolate frozen yogurt. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:18 With hot fudge. All right. I don't know why I'm overweight. Heath, any other guesses? Dave, any other guesses? There's one more player averaging six yards per carry. Minimum carries?
Starting point is 00:54:36 40, I think I did. Let me see. You don't even know? I'll tell you how many carries he has. He has 57 carries this year. Tony Pollard. No. And it's a running back, obviously.
Starting point is 00:55:01 You know what's really nice under a plate of burnt ends just a piece of bread soak up all that juice and a toothbrush after you guys i cosign okay um who is it adam i'm gonna let you guys each give each other one other gross thing just for fun go ahead like give them mounds or whoppers or something i don't know who those makes those things and i don't know if they have been or will be a potential sponsor they're not i think we're fine all right milk duds for heath heath what are you giving days we we have poopooed so many products and then years later it's guess who's going to sponsor the show now um sorry about the airheads oh that's those are delicious but okay now dave gets delicious airheads all right uh the answer
Starting point is 00:55:53 is i'll give you one last hint he is a teammate of one of the three players who are averaging six yards per carry cleo herbert ken walker tra Etienne. Oh, it's Dave. Yeah. Rashad Penny. Rashad Penny. You want something else, or do you think you deserve something else in the bucket? I think I do deserve something else, Adam,
Starting point is 00:56:15 because I got a correct answer. I will go with a $100,000. Oh, there you go. And that's not the candy bar $100,000. I'm talking about $100,000 in cash right in my Halloween bag. Thank you very much. All right. Schaefer, does it even make sense to read the buckets?
Starting point is 00:56:30 Yeah, no. We have nothing. Dave has like a porterhouse, $100,000, airheads. Stuffed pizza. Stuffed pizza. I think Dave wins. But Heath is going to be able to brush his teeth. We're going to finish the show with some rest of season rankings.
Starting point is 00:56:44 Rank them rest of season. Ramondre Stevenson, David Montgomery, Miles Sanders. Give the names again, please. Ramondre Stevenson, David Montgomery, Miles Sanders. Sanders, Stevenson, Montgomery. I'll flip-flop Montgomery and Stevenson. Sanders, number one, though. Mm-hmm. All right.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Number two, Travis ETN, Damian Pierce, Ken Walker, rank them rest of season. Walker Pierce, ETN Walker, ETN Pierce.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Why Walker? Number one, because he's awesome. And how about you just got done showing the world that Seattle had two running backs, average six yards per carry? Yeah. But ETN is one of them, too.
Starting point is 00:57:31 ETN's in there, too. ETN's been great. My worry is what happens when he takes on too much work. Still an awesome running back. Stardom, no doubt. By the way, Pierce has 13 catches in his last three games. I said nine. Walker has 13 catches in his last three games. I said nine. Walker has two catches in his two starts.
Starting point is 00:57:51 Okay. By the way, explosive run percentage. That's defined as 12-plus yard carries with a percentage of carries that go for 12 or more yards by true media. Ken Walker is number one. Travis Etienne is sixth. Damian Pierce is 29th. Minimum 40 carries there.
Starting point is 00:58:07 This is a good one, I think. Rank these guys rest of season. Chris Olave, Michael Thomas, Michael Pittman. Olave's first. Olave, Pittman, Thomas. Agreed. Okay, why Pittman over Thomas? He's playing
Starting point is 00:58:23 football. When do you think Thomas will come back? That's a great question. How many licks did it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pub? The last commercial I saw was three. One, two, three. All right. I believe Mr. Owl is a follower on Twitter by the way
Starting point is 00:58:46 of you? yeah I like Tootsie Roll Pops too Russell Wilson by the way is practicing just saw that got a good chance to play this week rank him rest of season actually I want to spend a little bit more time on Olave
Starting point is 00:59:01 do you try to sell him? or what? Because are you worried about him when Landry and Thomas, specifically Thomas, come back? No. Not that worried. Not enough to trade him
Starting point is 00:59:14 for whatever you can get. Once again, if somebody's willing to overpay, let me give you an example of what an overpay might look like for him. Brian Robinson and Christian Kirk. No, no, no. No? You would rather have Olave?
Starting point is 00:59:33 I would. Okay. I wouldn't. I'd rather have those two. I would take DeAndre Hopkins and Leonard Fournette. That would be an overpay I would take, too. Would you take Hopkins? I was trying to dial it down. Straight up.
Starting point is 00:59:45 What about Hopkins straight up for Olave? Who would you rather have? I've got Hopkins higher than Olave. All right. Last one. Juju Smith-Schuster, Amari Cooper, Gabe Davis. Rank them rest of season. You know, I can't help but think that Cooper...
Starting point is 01:00:06 No. Davis, Cooper, Juju. Davis won. Wow. He has not had more than six targets in a game. I know, but he's just so explosive. In the perfect offense. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:19 It's probably Cooper, Davis, Juju. I think... No, screw it. Cooper, Juju, Davis. Yeah, you're not a Davis guy because he's not getting a ton of targets. He's just getting a ton
Starting point is 01:00:30 of touchdowns and yards, whatever that means for fantasy. Well, it's only been two games, though. We saw a lot of it last year. Week one. Yeah. I looked at, in case anybody cares,
Starting point is 01:00:43 where Gabe Davis' upcoming opponents rank in 20-plus air yard completions allowed. In other words, do they give up long pass plays? They rank 8th, 14th, 20th, 28th, 20th, 23rd, 14th, 23rd, 10th, 10th, and 23rd. The last one is Week 18. So, nothing terrible there. Some teams that give up a lot of big pass plays.
Starting point is 01:01:08 It's kind of an interesting stat. It depends a lot on who you've played. And we're just, you know, we're not late enough in the season where I'm making too much of that stat. Oh, I had one more. How about that? I didn't even see it there at the end. Jalen Waddell, Debo Samuel, Amonra St. Brown. Rank them.
Starting point is 01:01:25 St. Brown, Debo Samuel, Amonra St. Brown. Rank them. St. Brown, Debo, Waddle. Yeah, that sounds right. I think it's really close between Debo and Waddle. I thought you were going to take Waddle over Debo. Okay. St. Brown, Debo, Waddle.
Starting point is 01:01:40 That's it for today's show. We'll talk to you tomorrow with Start or Sit for the AFC home games. Appreciate your time. I hope you all have as delicious Halloween's as Dave and he'd have trick or treating at Morton's steakhouse. We'll talk to you later.

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