Fantasy Football Today - Trade Talk! Buy the Bucs? Sell Stevenson? (10/26 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: October 26, 2022Kicking off the show with our favorite buy low (1:50) and sell high (6:40) guys. Buy low on Chris Godwin! Sell high on Rhamondre Stevenson if you can get great value for him (but it's OK to hold Steve...nson!). Then we've got your news and notes (12:10) and some trade deadline talk (13:10). Should you be holding onto Kareem Hunt or anyone else ahead of next week's NFL trade deadline? ... Previewing Ravens-Bucs (20:06)! Are we considering sitting Lamar Jackson or Tom Brady? Is Gus Edwards a player to trust this week? ... Dedicating the rest of our show to trade talk, we read your buy low (35:00) and sell high (39:15) suggestions. Find out if we agree or disagree! Then we're playing a new game called "Follow the Leader" (44:00) which somehow involves Halloween candy, and we finish by ranking players rest of season (55:50). Travis Etienne vs. Ken Walker. Jaylen Waddle vs. Deebo Samuel. Chris Olave vs. Michael Pittman ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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today. Are you guys ready for a fun new game? Yes. Did you create this game i did i'd like to change my answer no i can't wait then it's
it's only going to be good if it's awful so that's fantastic yeah i think is it called the
circle of trust game no it's that we're definitely not doing that game again
uh but i think i think it'll be good we also have a new heath. So we're going to do a sell high or Heath Cy today.
We also have buy low or heck no, which we could, you know, kind of maybe turn into like
hell yeah or like hell yeah or blah. I don't know. So we're going to have some fun today
with sound effects. We're going to talk about the Thursday night game, which is a pretty
interesting one from a starter sit perspective.
You throw in Gus Edwards back out there
against the Bucks defense.
You go in with Tom Brady,
who's got two games
with more than 17
fantasy points this year.
Lamar Jackson,
four straight games
with 18 or fewer fantasy points.
No, yeah,
his touchdown numbers
have been insane.
I think he had 10 touchdowns
in the first three games
and three in the last four.
So, yeah,
that'll break down that game.
Let's start, though, with a little trade talk.
Your favorite buy low, your favorite sell high.
Raise your hand if you'd like to go first with your favorite buy low.
Oh, Heath was first.
Heath, you're up.
It is Chris Godwin.
This is the buy low of the season.
Second in targets in the entire NFL since he returned from his hamstring injury,
has not scored a touchdown all season long. The efficiency has not been as good. That's going to
creep back up. And there's a few of these guys that we just should have, and we talked about it
at the beginning of the year. We didn't even know if Chris Godwin would play week one. Probably
shouldn't have played week one. Things might've gone better, but we just talked about how they
are going to be better in the second half
than they are in the first half.
I thought he'd be better in the first half than he's been so far.
But if somebody had Chris Godwin on their team,
it's not been a pleasurable experience.
Go get Chris Godwin.
The explosion is coming.
Okay.
And, you know, it hasn't been that bad in PPR.
11.5 to 15.5 fantasy points in all four games.
Just to follow up, you talked about the
efficiency. I talked about this
on the Monday show.
Everything is down for him.
The ADOT is down, and yet
the catch rate is way down.
The yards per target,
the yards per catch, the route depth
is down. When I see that,
I wonder, is he still the same player?
Can we count on him getting back to that form?
Because the targets are incredible.
And the PPR floor is really good.
So even if he doesn't peak, it's still good.
Even if he's not the same player,
he's Keenan Allen.
And the catch rate's going to rebound.
He's not going to run six-yard
routes and catch 50% of his
targets all season long.
He nearly had
what might have ended up being a long
touchdown last week. He was just off
with Brady on a deep fade.
And this is a good matchup for him. The Ravens
have not been good against slot receivers.
75% catch rate
to slot receivers. How about 5.6 yards after catch per reception to slot receiver?
Both of those in the bottom 10 in the league.
There's an opportunity here.
And the reason why I think like his,
his eight outs down and all that other stuff is because Brady's getting
rid of the ball quick.
He,
I don't think Brady is very trustful of his protection anymore.
He's always,
and he really should be because they're not doing that bad of a job,
but it feels like the MO of this passing game is get the ball out quick.
And when he does have time to throw,
it's,
it's going Mike Evans way downfield more so than Godwin's way that changed
on one play last week.
So when I just talked about,
but I agree,
I think if you can get Chris Godwin on the cheap,
he's a good one to get.
All right.
Godwin for teeth.
And I would just say like his, his eight odd.6.8 it was 7.3 last year right
but yeah it is low but it was a lot higher than that two years ago so it's lower not much lower
but it's lower the route depth is lower the catch rate is weird so hopefully they can get on the
same page a little bit seemed like they were a little bit off uh in week seven all right dave
who's your favorite by low my favorite by low is someone you can't even use in week eight because he's on IR, but
he's expected to be off of IR by week nine.
And it's Cordero Patterson.
And the timing is good to go get him because he's going to be cheap because he's still
a week away from coming back.
And you can go to your waiver wire and hopefully find somebody that can get you through this
week, whether it's somebody as good as Gus Edwards or somebody as, as low end as Michael Carter might be, or maybe even somebody
worse than that. You find somebody to just plug in and use in week eight. And then hopefully
fingers crossed he's back in week nine. Can't guarantee it, but by the looks of his social
media, he's running at full speed. He's looking strong. The Falcons rush efficiency has been
terrible since he left. So I think he's got a very obvious role when he comes back and their schedule starting in week
nine, pretty good for at least the next two or three games. And then I think by that point,
if he's his old self, um, and I mean old self, uh, I think he's going to end up being a must
start fantasy running back another player that you can get on the cheap right now.
Okay.
Chris Godwin for Heath.
Cordero Patterson for Dave is our favorite by Lowe's.
I know Aaron Jones was a guy we gave you last week.
I can't remember.
I think you guys crushed it.
Zeke.
Yeah, I think you crushed it last week.
Zeke was another one.
Okay.
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Your favorite sell high. I do want to say before I give a name that like this year in particular, the idea of selling high feels almost impossible.
There are so few good players at any position that giving up someone who has
both been good for this year and was not terrible last week.
Well,
first off,
you've got like six running back,
six receivers,
two tight ends and three quarterbacks to choose from.
It's,
it's a,
it's a disaster.
I mean, people have talked about it.
Scoring's down 22%.
We've got eight quarterbacks who've scored 20 fantasy points per game.
It's a terrible year of fantasy football scoring.
So it is more difficult to give up guys who are in your lineup producing.
That being said, I think there's probably a good
sell high opportunity on Ramondre Stevenson. He's been an absolute stud without Damian Harris.
First game back was a game script that was clearly not a Damian Harris game script.
This doesn't look like a particularly good offense. And I would guess at some point,
it's going to be a closer split than it was last week, and Damian Harris could still steal goal line carries.
So if I could get high-end number two value for Ramondre Stevenson,
I believe for the season right now, he's a top 12 running back,
then I would be happy to do that.
Okay. Ramondre Stevenson, that was one of the ones that our listeners submitted as well.
So I think people are on the same page as you.
You've got to get a lot. Ramondre Stevenson for Heath.
Dave, who are we selling high on?
I would sell high on Zeke, assuming that you were okay at the same pages. You got to get a lot. Ramondre Stevenson for Heath. Dave, who are we selling high on? I would sell high on Zeke,
assuming that you were okay at the running back spot.
If he's your third running back,
or maybe even your second and your third running back
is someone who's just okay.
See what you can get for Ezekiel Elliott
coming off of a two touchdown game.
34% of his PPR fantasy points this year
have been touchdowns.
Clear definition of a touchdown dependent running back.
He's on a good team and his offensive line is better than we thought it would be.
But he's still very inefficient, especially compared to Tony Pollard.
Pollard had a lot of work last week, more than I think he had in any game this season.
You can correct me if I'm wrong.
But I wonder if there will be more of a 50-50-ish split between those two.
And Pollard has seen some short yardage touches as well.
He also has one target in his last three games.
So he's like a double sell-eye in PPR.
Now, in saying all that, if you've got Zeke and you don't have a good running back to go in his place,
if you were to trade him, then I don't blame you for hanging on to him.
And I think he still has good value for however long he stays healthy,
for however long the offensive line is good.
But he's going to need to keep scoring,
and I don't know if that's something that you want to really clutch to
when it comes to one of your running backs
when you're thinking about the rest of the season.
Okay, to recap, Chris Godwin's a buy low.
Cordero Patterson is a buy low.
Ramondre Stevenson is a sell high.
Got to get something really good.
And Ezekiel Elliott is a sell high. Would you rather have Cordero Patterson or E buy low. Ramondre Stevenson is a sell high. Got to get something really good. And Ezekiel Elliott is a sell high.
Would you rather have Cordaro Patterson or Ezekiel Elliott rest of season?
I have Zeke one or two spots higher on the trade chart.
Yeah.
Yeah, I'd rather have Zeke.
I don't think there's really a big gap between the three of them, though.
Ramondre, Zeke, and Patterson? Yeah. Okay. Ramondre is the one you could get the most for in trade, though. think there's really a big gap between the three of them though remandre's reekin patterson yeah
okay remandre is the one you could get the most foreign trade though
right i think the perceived value on him is much higher than the other two okay i don't know that
the actual value rest of season will be that much higher than the other two i almost wonder if i
have patterson too high on the trade chart i've got him ahead of, you know, Benjamin, Brian Robinson, Pollard, Gus.
What do you think?
Is he ahead of those guys?
Yeah, ahead of them.
In perceived value, I don't feel like he is,
but in actual rest of season value,
I could believe it if he's back.
The whole mystery is,
and I appreciate the investigative work
on the social media.
I hope that's true,
but we don't know when he's coming back.
That's a great point.
Yeah, he's been,
and Tyler Algier really has not been running the ball
nearly as well as Cordaro Patterson has.
So it's not like he should lose a lot of touches,
but they don't throw the ball to anyone,
especially their running backs.
So he's another guy
who's not really going to stand out in PPR,
which is just a little unusual.
That's probably what you thought
you were going to get from Patterson
when you drafted him.
And it's like they run the ball as much
or if not more than everybody.
But he's 31
and he got hurt at the end of last year
and he got hurt at the beginning of this year and he got hurt at the beginning of this year,
even if he's 100% healthy the rest of the season,
what do you think their plan is for how many touches you give Patterson?
How many touches they're going to give Patterson?
They're going to give him a ton.
I think Algier separated from the rest of the muckety-muck that they have last week.
He played 60% of the snaps.
But I don't think that they're ready to entrust in him
when they've got Patterson. I think they're going to use
Patterson as long as he's available.
I think they would. They
need Patterson to be ready for the playoffs
and he can't survive.
I don't know why you guys are laughing.
They're currently tied for
first place and their next six games are against
terrible teams except for one.
I'm laughing not at you.
I'm laughing at the reality that you can't rule them off
from being a wildcard team.
Why?
Maybe even the division winner.
I can't rule it out.
Why?
It sounds silly, but I get it.
Do the Giants have to play in the NFC East?
It would be so much better if they were just in the NFC South.
All right.
So those are some good trade candidates.
A lot more later on in the show.
News and notes.
A lot for Thursday night, obviously,
because those are the only teams practicing
and giving practice reports.
Gus Edwards was limited.
He's going to play, but they list him as limited.
Rashad Bateman, same thing.
Ronnie Stanley, their left tackle.
He's questionable for this game at Tampa Bay on Thursday.
Julio Jones was limited. He's questionable for this game at Tampa Bay on Thursday. Julio Jones
was limited. He might play. Tampa Bay's secondary is worth watching here. Carlton Davis, Sean Murphy
Bunting, Antoine Winfield all did not practice. And those are very important players for them.
Akeem Hicks was listed as limited, which is a good sign. He did not practice at all last week.
So their run defense has been very inconsistent.
The Bucs were used to it being among the best in football.
They signed Akeem Hicks in the offseason
to replace Ndamukong Su.
They've gotten very little from him.
Hopefully he can make his way back.
Those are your Thursday night injury updates.
Kansas City defensive end Frank Clark
has suspended two games
for violating the personal conduct policy.
Frank Clark, very important player for the Chiefs.
By this week, he'll miss Tennessee in week nine and Jacksonville in week 10.
Saints cornerback Bradley Roby is on IR with an ankle injury.
Just a reminder, IR is a minimum of four games out.
And the Saints secondary is extremely thin right now.
Tennessee wide receiver Kyle Phillips on IR with an ankle injury.
And the Cowboys trying to
shore up their run defense acquired
Jonathan Hankins, a defensive tackle
from the Raiders for a sixth round
pick. We're going to preview
that game shortly and then after
that we'll talk all trade value
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Can you do a quick segment on players you'd grab off
waivers now or buy low
now leading up to the trade deadline
next week? Rumors on
Hamler, Judy, Kareem Hunt, etc.
It's a good question. The trade
deadline is a real thing in football now,
which is very fun.
Who should we be looking at here
to gain or lose value?
I guess as the trade deadline approaches.
Dave's face.
Yeah,
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If you're not watching on YouTube,
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Hmm.
When Adam said the trade deadline is a real thing in the NFL.
Now Dave's Dave's face went.
Yeah.
I like there have been two trades.
I used to be zero of consequence i would not be surprised if there was not another trade of fantasy football consequence before the trade deadline i hope there
is but i just i don't want people to go too far out of their way speculating on what could happen
at the trade deadline when maybe absolutely nothing happens.
That being said, Chase Claypool, Kareem Hunt,
I guess Cam Akers, maybe.
Cam Akers hasn't been traded yet.
I have a hard time believing.
Elijah Moore?
I think he's going to get traded now.
Zero chance on Moore?
I don't believe they will. They wouldn't trade
Denzel Mims.
They can't trade Elijah Moore right now.
Agreed.
Kareem Hunt, I think, is a big one. Just don't drop
him. Just don't drop Kareem Hunt.
I got into
a mini beef in the YouTube
comments with somebody who said that we were crazy
for recommending dropping Kareem Hunt for Gus Edwards.
Oh, I don't think that's crazy. I think if that, if Kareem hunts legitimately your worst player or your worst running back and you need a starter, I'm starting Edwards over hunt
for the foreseeable future. The problem is I get that guy. Like I, first off, I think the crazy
thing you did was arguing with somebody in the YouTube comments,
but yeah,
I don't,
because Edwards doesn't have cream hunt upside and I'm not,
and I don't know that their weekly expectation is more than like a point or
two difference.
See,
that's where I think we're a little bit off because I've seen hunt.
I I've studied him literally every week. I write about him every week and it used to be, he gets 15 touches reliably. And if he scores, you're going to love it. And if not, well, at least he'll give you like 60 total yards last two weeks. They have not used him at all. And I wonder if he is falling out of favor a little bit in Cleveland. And if he stays through the trade deadline, I'm not sure he's going to rebound and be
a 15 touch guy unless something happens to Chubb.
So I can't wait for that.
Like, it's already too late if you want to get Gus Edwards, unless your waivers run tonight.
I think that you can't wait when it comes to running backs off the waiver wire, man.
There's too many other people in your league who want them.
So I completely understand having Gus ahead of Kareem Hunt rest of season.
I agree with it.
I said it.
That being said, yes, Hunt could get traded.
Where could he go and have instant top 20 fantasy value?
Anywhere, almost.
Which team is trading for a 27 year old running back
with dwindling efficiency bad pr it's the only team i could think of i think we're past the bad
pr thing i hope so but i mean it's still going to be a thing it's going to be tied to him for
as long as he's in the nfl But no, the Rams are the first one.
Give me another.
Take the rest of the show.
I'm sure there's another one.
I'll think of another one.
Give me another team that's still believing in a playoff spot
that needs a running back.
And that would give up a late pick.
Okay, look, let's move on oh the panthers
no no they're not competing oh come on no they're not competing although they can't be that far back
but they're not competing for they've got two good running backs already they don't need kareem
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Na-na-na-na-na-na!
Nah!
Alright, so the Tampa Bay secondary is beat up.
There's good defense so far.
Six and yards per play allowed, but
really shorthanded, perhaps,
in this game.
Let's talk about the Ravens first.
And let's talk about the quarterbacks, actually.
Let's go position by position here.
I see by your rankings you have no hesitation in starting Lamar Jackson
despite four straight underwhelming games.
Heath, discuss.
No?
Heath?
Frozen?
All right, Heath. Who would have internet connections at a time like this
we'll uh we'll get heath back internet connection issues sorry okay uh can i discuss lamar jackson
and why you should still start i don't know i think we maybe we'll just sit here in silence
and wait for heath uh no you know it's a better idea dave why don't you talk about it go ahead
okay here's what I think. No, just kidding. Okay. He's got too much upside.
You know that he's got 30 point potential. It's a short week. He's still
going to continue to run the ball. He only attempted 16 passes last week. I don't
think that's going to be the norm for him. I do think the Ravens are going to try and control the clock
and run the ball with Gus. I like Gus. We'll talk about him in a minute, but you
know, with Lamar Jackson, he's going to get, first of all, he's going to get numbers with Mark Andrews last week,
total anomaly. And hopefully Rashad Bateman's okay. Hopefully Duvernay gets involved a little
bit more and Lamar Jackson, you just keep rolling with him. I know he's been bad for the past few
weeks. I don't think he's doing anything. That's like completely changed him as a fantasy quarterback that makes
you go um yeah i better start derrick car instead i think right i don't even know how much you want
to get into it but it's just the touchdowns of the first for first three weeks lamar jackson was
part of every offensive touchdown they scored every pass every passing touchdown every rushing
touchdown lamar jackson was part of it.
In the last four games,
you're starting to see
the running backs do more.
Dobbins, Drake, Edwards,
they have a combined
five rushing touchdowns.
Jackson has two passing,
no rushing in the last four games,
but it just seems kind of fluky.
But also their offense
isn't scoring that much.
They haven't scored more than 23 points
in any of those games.
Heath, go ahead.
Yeah, it's like just as the first three weeks were not indicative They haven't scored more than 23 points in any of those games. Heath, go ahead.
Yeah, it's like just as the first three weeks were not indicative of what was going to happen the next three weeks,
I don't believe the last three weeks are indicative
of what's going to happen the next three weeks.
Last four weeks.
But, okay.
All right, fine.
Start Lamar Jackson.
Plus the matchup is favorable.
Yeah.
How about Brady?
Start or sit?
Start him.
He's a starter, but I mean, there's bus potential.
I can tell you, I've spent more time studying Tom Brady this week
than I have maybe at any other point since he was a young guy in the league.
Last week, I don't think the Panthers did anything special
to make him look bad.
I think he made mistakes that made him look bad, but he also, everybody saw the drop touchdown
from Mike Evans. That was one of three plays that were really close to being huge. And then
we would have no questions at all about bringing. Here's something that stood out to me. Um,
this, this Ravens defense, they, they know how to get after quarterbacks, and they also know when to not get after quarterbacks.
They barely blitzed and barely pressured Joe Burrow a few weeks back.
They just played a lot of heavy zone defense
and kind of dared him to throw into it,
and Burrow didn't have 20 fantasy points.
And I wonder if that's what they do against Brady,
because that's what a lot of teams have done against Brady,
including the Panthers blitzed a little bit more
than most defenses against Tampa Bay, but the Panthers didn't get a lot of
pressure on him.
Brady had time to throw and he had a lot of self-inflicted mistakes.
So I wonder if the Ravens start out their game plan by just rushing for hoping that
some guys get there and sack them, of course, but also having seven guys back and they've
got a good secondary to try and make it hard on Brady to complete passes at any length, especially since they know
that Brady in his mind has to get rid of the ball quickly.
One other historical fact, and you don't have to pay attention to this if you don't want
to, he's played the Ravens under John Harbaugh 10 times in his career.
He's thrown multiple touchdowns three times and top 300 yards four times.
And I would argue that this is probably one of the,
not the worst offenses that he's been dealing with as far as offensive line
and everything else, but not one of the best either.
So there there's bus potential for him.
He might come through with like two 75 and one.
I just don't know if I have the stones to start Derek Carr.
Oh, that's it.
That's one for me. I have that decision to make. Carr versus Brady. I haven't made it yet. I don't know if I'm ready
to start Carr. The one guy who I am ready to start is Tua.
He's got healthy receivers and he's playing the Lions. I'll buy into that over Brady.
Heath, Tua or Brady? Tua.
Carr or Brady? Brady. Cous, or Brady? Tua. Carr or Brady?
Brady.
Cousins or Brady?
Brady.
Cousins.
Dak Prescott against the Bears or Brady?
Brady.
Dak.
By the way, Dave, Tom Brady is being blitzed less percentage-wise,
less this season than at any point in the last 12 seasons. And it's the weirdest
thing. No, it makes sense because
you can probably get pressure with four.
He does get rid of the ball quickly.
Right. I mean,
that's the real reason why.
It is so obvious.
It is a lack of weapons.
It is not Tom Brady.
What do you mean?
They don't have Gronk.
They don't have Brown.
They have, they don't have a...
Relative to league average,
he does not have a lack of weapons.
I disagree.
First of all, if you look at the full season,
Mike Evans has missed some time
and got kicked out of a game.
Chris Godwin has missed a lot of time.
And I just don't think Godwin is the right,
is Godwin right now.
I mean, I watched it all last week.
Godwin was not getting, Evans was getting open consistently. I really don't think Chris Godwin right now. I mean, I watched it all last week. Godwin was not getting open.
Evans was getting open consistently.
I really don't think Chris Godwin was,
and they are really not on the same page, those two.
And look at the red zone numbers.
His three seasons with goal-to-go numbers, right?
Goal-to-go completion rate three seasons in Tampa Bay,
62%, 50%, 37.5%.
Goal-to to go touchdown rate.
Oh, it was so frustrating last week.
48.9%, 41.7%, 31.3%.
They are missing Rob Gronkowski and Antonio Brown.
It's a big deal.
Okay, but if Tom Brady needs Mike Evans, Chris Godwin,
Rob Gronkowski, and Antonio Brown to be a good quarterback,
then he's not a good quarterback.
I disagree.
He is a very good quarterback.
He makes throws that most quarterbacks cannot even dream of making.
It's just,
it's not Herbert or Tom Brady had better weapons this year.
It doesn't.
It's the point is he is not getting,
he is not getting enough from his guys when they're healthy.
Yeah.
Well,
they haven't been healthy all year.
That's the point.
Same thing with this year.
Who's had better talent helping him.
Okay.
Overall,
then you might get me to say Brady, because if we're not, if we're taking injury out of it and what's happened so far this year, who's had better talent helping him? Okay, overall, then you might get me to say Brady.
Because if we're taking injury out of it and what's happened so far this year,
then yeah, Brady definitely has.
Who's offensive line's been better this year?
He's had better than Herbert?
I don't know about that.
Offensive line-wise?
I'm not sure if PFF would agree, but it kind of feels that way.
No, I mean, his weapons?
I mean, Herbert, like Eckler's a big deal for Justin Herbert.
Leonard Fournette just catches passes.
Fournette's been catching passes.
Catches passes.
He doesn't really do anything with it.
Eckler's a weapon.
I'm starting Tom Brady without hesitation this week,
and the quarterback position's so awful
that I can't see that changing in the next month.
But to give him a free pass and say the problem is Tom Brady's weapons,
it just seems insane insane and his line
no i don't think it's the line no well he threw he threw like four different two hoppers in that
yes no he threw two straight awful pass three two three two he threw two straight four hoppers
they were both to completely covered wide receivers. They were throwaway passes in the pocket.
He just couldn't.
Did you see, are those the passes inside the 10 that you're thinking?
Yes.
Those two back to back to Evans and Godwin.
I think, I don't think he meant to two hop them.
There is no chance that Patrick Mahomes doesn't fit that into the window there.
Patrick Mahomes might be the best quarterback.
Okay.
I'm saying Tom Brady is still one of the best quarterbacks.
He threw two balls up the seam in the
tightest windows. If he's still one of the best quarterbacks, then we
shouldn't have any questions about starting him.
But it's not because he just doesn't have any weapons.
He hasn't had
good weapons so far this year.
This year he has had limited
weaponry. That's what I'm saying. So
far. Compared to what he's had
the past two years, I agree. Yeah, big time.
But I don't think that's the only thing.
Alright. I think it's a little bit of everything.
Running backs, guys. I just imagine
Aaron Rodgers, if you listen to our podcast,
hearing us giving excuses to Tom Brady
for not having enough weapons.
Aaron Rodgers says, what are you talking about?
But no, but I mean
Evans missed time, got ejected,
Godwin missed time. It just hasn't been the same. You know, for what it's worth, Brady's missed time got ejected godwin missed time it just hasn't been
the same you know um for what it's worth brad has missed time he's been a red zone guy for him it's
an end zone guy for him all right so the running backs let's start start for net right just start
them just start them both all right well okay gus where do you have gus ranked i've got him as a top
24 running back in non-ppr and just on the fence in full PPR.
Okay, I shouldn't have said start on both,
but yeah, I guess it's fine.
Whatever.
No, I mean, you can't quite say that.
Did you start Raheem Mostert over him?
Oh, yeah.
It's a borderline top 12 running back.
You mean Raheem Mostert of the week?
How about Devin Singletary against the Packers?
I'd go Singletary too.
Yep.
How about Najee Harris at the Eagles?
I'll start Gus in non-PPR.
I might start Gus in full PPR too.
Okay, you're resending.
I will rethink Gus in full PPR.
Yeah.
I was really fired up over this Tom Brady weapons thing
and wasn't thinking.
How about Gabe Davis against Green Bay or Gus Edwards?
Gabe.
Yeah.
I am curious to see because Gus Edwards had 10 carries
in the first half and six in the second half.
Kenyon Drake out-carried him in the second half.
And a short week.
Are you worried at all about the workload for Gus?
No.
The opposite. Yes. He played
36% of the snaps and saw 36% of the
rush attempts. If they run the ball 35 times
instead of 50, he might have 10 carries.
I think they give him more work
this week. It was his first game back. He deserves
a pass for that. On a short week, though, that's
the only question, Dave. No. I think that's
why they tried to let up on him a little bit.
He played 23 snaps and had 16 carries,
and I think they wanted to keep him relatively fresh.
You're getting a running back who's only played one game,
played 23 snaps, coming in against a Tampa Bay run defense
that just made Deontay Foreman and Chuba Hubbard
look like Larry Zalkaka and Mercury Morris.
Those guys aren't as good as they looked.
Tampa Bay's defense, especially if they can get Gus into the second level,
oh man, he's going to have some huge runs.
And I think he's a great candidate to score.
I love the fresh legs on Thursday night.
It worked out for Eno last week.
I'm kind of hitting myself over not having Eno ranked high enough.
I'm not going to make that mistake again in non-PPR with Gus Edwards.
Okay.
Well, you know those Thursday night games are always so good for fantasy, right?
I mean, come on.
That Bucs defense is going to be tired.
Gus is not going to be tired.
I just think we've got to keep an eye on Akeem Hicks, too.
I don't know how much you care about that.
No, that'll make some difference,
and we've got to see just who's fresh and ready
to go for the Ravens on their offensive line,
but I was
very impressed with how they blocked for
Gus. Gus did a good job following
his blocks. I think some of how
he did, too, had to do with how Cleveland's
run defense is. Certainly
inside the red zone, both of his
touchdowns, the Browns' defense was
sleeping at the wheel.
All right, come on, guys.
Don't guise me.
No, all right, come on, let's get to it.
He wants to turn up and guise me.
Heath, you can talk about the wide receivers.
You can talk about the wide receivers.
Go ahead.
You should start Mike Evans.
You should start Chris Godwin.
You should not start any Tampa Bay wide receivers.
Any Baltimore.
You should not start any Baltimore wide receivers.
Baltimore wide receivers, yes.
If you can't get the teams right, Heath, I can't give you the...
I'm not asking for more.
Start Mark Andrews. Heath, you get Cade
Otten. Here's your stat of the game.
Baltimore has allowed 11.6
or more PPR fantasy points to
five tight ends in seven games.
They are Conklin, Gasicki, Hurst,
Bellinger, and Njoku.
None of them had more than seven targets.
Starters hit Kate Otten,
who has just a 12% target share
in two games without Cameron Braid,
but still good production.
Yeah, I'd rather stream Irv Smith.
I'd rather stream Greg Dulcich.
I would not start Kate Otten over Kyle Pitts.
But other than that, he's fine.
Dave, Cade Otten or Kyle Pitts?
I'll take Otten.
Okay, yeah, he's giving you about 10 to 11 PPR fantasy points
in each of the two games that Brady has missed.
But Brady has thrown so many passes in those games,
so he doesn't have a high target share.
If Brady keeps throwing 40-plus times, it should be good for Otten.
He's only 11% rostered as of
right now and Baltimore's DST start or sit they've been great I'd start top 12 option okay top 10
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right. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. Time now for buy low or heck no and sell
high or heath sigh, which means don't sell high for some reason. All right, buy low or heck no? Well, the first
one was Chris Godwin, so that's a buy low.
Alex says
Kyle Pitts. Would you buy low on
Kyle Pitts? He is anticipating
a quarterback change soon.
And then he says, parentheses, I'm just trying to make myself
feel better about drafting Kyle Pitts.
It's a
heck no.
Heath, you there again he froze poor heath he's so the reason why i said heck no on pits is because i think eventually people are going to start dropping him so what what would you give up what
would you seriously trade for cow pits okay if you're streaming tight ends anyway,
and here comes Kyle Pitts who's had maybe, what,
two, three games this year with 10 PPR points?
Is that right?
What do you give up for a guy like that
who doesn't have a ton of upside?
I don't think you give up that much.
You almost want to wait until somebody drops him.
Heath, buy low or heck no on Kyle Pitts?
Buy low on Dynasty.
Heck no on Redraft.
Okay, buy low or heck no on Leonard Fournette.
Do you guys even consider him a buy low coming off a terrible game?
I mean, if you can, you should.
But most people who have Leonard Fournette still value him as a top 12 fantasy running back.
I would rather have Leonard Fourard fournette than um
ezekiel elliott for sure oh yeah would you guys have fournette or etn oh oh etn role reversal here
uh yeah i think i still think i'd have fournette but it's really close i was gonna ask fournette
or the young emerging ken walker uh damian pierce travis etn all of to ask Fournette or the young emerging Ken Walker, Damian
Pierce, Travis Etienne.
All of them over Fournette. Rookies and Etienne.
But maybe you could
turn Fournette into Ramondre Stevenson.
Or vice versa.
Turn Ramondre into Fournette.
There you go. Okay.
Mike wants to know, would you buy low
on A.J. Dillon? Buy low or heck no?
Heck no.
I'd put him in the same category as Pitts.
Wait for somebody to drop him and then just put him on your bench.
From Gabagool, would you buy low on Khalil Herbert?
I don't think anybody's cutting him,
so you would have to give up something for Khalil Herbert.
If the something to get him is really minimal, if it's a bench player, I don't hate it.
Heath?
Yeah, I mean, that's a weird one because he was good and just played.
He's probably got a bigger role now than he did two or three weeks ago.
So I guess you're just hoping he takes the entire job from David Montgomery.
I don't think that's very likely without an injury.
It would have to be very cheap.
I think that's what Herbert and Dylan kind of have in common is that they've got that Kareem hunt upside.
If the running back that they share with disappears for a few games.
Yeah.
I do.
I like Herbert more than Dylan right now.
I think I do too.
I agree.
That's the thing.
No one's going to cut Khalil Herbert
unless they just don't have the bench space to carry him.
People are going to start cutting A.J.
Dylan because the Packers aren't using him that much.
All right.
Next one.
If you could turn, let's say you're good at receiver
and you've got Bateman or Cooks,
you might be able to trade one of those guys for Khalil Herbert.
Okay, next one from Good Citizen.
Buy low or heck no on James Conner?
If I could buy low in the bench bench player range then yeah absolutely there's
there's still top 15 touchdown dependent upside here yay for top 15 touchdown potential so
would you give up maybe jacoby myers for james connor in a ppr league oh yeah probably but i i PPR league? Oh, yeah. Probably. But I also can't help but think that Eno is the
running back of choice
in Arizona, and that
when Conor comes back, he's the 1B
and Eno is 1A.
Would you give up
Christian Kirk for James Conor?
No. Definitely
not in PPR. Probably not
in non-PPR. All right, let's do
Sel High or Heath Sy. Sel High or Heath Sy. Our first Definitely not in PPR. Probably not in non-PPR. All right, let's do sell high or heath sigh.
Sell high or heath sigh.
Our first one comes from Jonathan King.
Sell high or heath sigh on Gus Edwards.
Sell high.
If you can.
From Aaron.
Sell high on James Robinson.
He is washed.
I kind of agree.
If you can can you should
I think you'll have an easier time
selling higher on Gus
and Michael Carter
than you would on James Robinson
yeah I don't know if
but Carter might be a buy low now
like I think a perception will be
that Robinson's eventually going to be
the best running back in that backfield
and I don't believe that
so
yeah I agree
I'd rather have Carterter than robinson so we're buying low on carter i think is going to
be really hard to do would you buy high on carter right now would you give up uh adam theelin and
ppr for michael carter probably not but i'd rather have Carter than Gus.
I think I'd rather have Gus,
but it's kind of close between those two.
I wouldn't give up Thielen and PPR for any running back that we've talked about in the last
30 seconds. How about this one?
Buy low, sell high,
sorry, sell high or Heath Sy
on Saquon Barkley?
No.
Heath sigh.
Don't sell high.
Yeah, you probably shouldn't.
I could understand just not wanting to roster running backs.
Because eventually he's going to get hurt.
Sure. Sure.
Right.
How about if I come at you with Leonard Fournette and DeAndre Hopkins
just for Saquon Barkley?
What do you think?
See you, Saquon.
I agree.
That's an example of selling high on Saquon,
but that's the type of sell high I'm looking to do.
I think let's give a little bit of love to the running backs.
The fact that Jacksonville's got a much better backfield now.
Ken Walker's been great.
Damian Pierce has been great.
And he's got three games where he's got two or more.
I think he's got, what, nine catches in his last three games
or something like that.
Yeah, it stinks to lose Brees Hall.
That's a crusher.
But at least you get Travis Etienne sort of as a replacement.
I don't know. I mean, I feel like running back
is not so bad.
The injuries are always a big concern,
but quarterback really is
terrible right now. Tight end is
as bad as I've ever seen it, I feel.
I feel like running back has
gotten a lot better. From the first few weeks of the season,
all the great running backs were
struggling, basically. And now I think running back's really not so bad you guys feel that way
yes no i do no and and i'll give you the proof of that uh i've got james robinson brian robinson
kareem hunt and a handful of leagues not all three on every roster but at least one of those
guys it feels like on every roster and i'm trying to trade those guys into something that helps my team at like wide receiver.
Cause you know me, I'm never drafting a ton of wide receivers and I'm having a hard time
moving them because everybody else in the league seems to have two competent running
backs that they feel good about starting.
So it's, it's, it is definitely deeper than it's been in the past.
I agree with your sentiment.
One other thing on just on the topic of the Jaguars running backs,
there's got to be an opportunity for someone else to play behind ETN.
ETN's not going to play 100% of the snaps, otherwise it'll break down.
They've got Jermichael Hasty behind him.
They've got Snoop Conner behind him.
I've made a play to get Hasty on a couple of my benches just to see what happens.
He's been serviceable before. He's played in passing downs roles
before. So in deeper leagues, you can look to
grab him off the waiver wire. I'm pretty
sure he's still available in a lot of
leagues. Oh, he is.
All right. A couple more here. Sell higher. He sigh
on Josh Jacobs from Eric
Eric Heath sigh
Heath sigh.
I agree with the Heath Sy,
but if someone offers me Fournette and Hopkins,
using the earlier example to get Jacobs, I'm taking it.
Who would you not give up for Fournette and Hopkins?
I mean, basically anyone.
Eckler.
You wouldn't give up Eckler for Fournette and Hopkins?
Eckler and McCaffrey are probably the only two.
Okay.
Travis Kelsey?
Cups close.
All right, last one from Nick.
Sell high or heath sigh on Ken Walker?
No.
If someone wants to overpay, same thing with Saquon.
I'd be happy to let him overpay,
but I think he's a top 10 running back rest of the season.
All right, so it's a heath sigh.
Don't sell high on Ken Walker.
Now we've got a new game.
Let's see if it goes well.
It almost certainly will not.
It is called follow the leader.
And it is the Halloween candy edition.
I'm going to ask you for the leader in a particular NFL statistic.
Every time you guess right,
you get to put any Halloween candy you want in your
bucket. After
three wrong guesses,
your opponent gets to put any disgusting
Halloween candy in your bucket, and we will keep
track of the buckets. Schaefer can keep track
of the buckets and see who has a better one
at the end of our game. Does that
make sense? Yeah. You need to know
your favorite Halloween candies and your least favorite
ones, and we'll see who has a better bucket.
By the way, since Snickers is a frequent sponsor
and has sponsored our draft-a-thon,
let's just go.
Look, we love them.
They're going to be one of the good ones,
but I don't think I have to tell you that
because they're obviously an amazing candy.
I think we should start with a king-size Snickers
in each of our buckets.
Fair enough.
You each get the free space,
a king-size Snickers in your bucket. Okay. Fair enough. You each get it. It's the free space. A king size Snickers
in your bucket. Okay. I like this
game already. A right answer. You get to pick some candy.
Gonna be a while indeed. Three wrong
answers. You get to put a
bad one in your
opponent's bucket. Who leads
the NFL in
passing yards per attempt?
Heath.
Go ahead. You can just shout answers, I think.
Yeah, I don't know how this works.
Tua.
Congratulations.
You got it.
The first guest, Tua Takamailoa,
leads in passing yards per attempt.
What candy would you like, Heath?
I'll take a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup.
Okay.
You've got a Snickers and a Reese's Peanut Butter Cup.
Thomas, are you keeping track?
Just give me a thumbs up backstage there.
All right.
Well,
he's got it.
Adam.
I didn't know that we had to buzz in.
What you just sat there is silently for five seconds.
I mean,
I don't know.
It wasn't five seconds.
He said Heath at the jump and I didn't know whether I should just
blurt out to her or not.
Did you know the answer?
Yeah.
I was going to guess to her.
Well,
I'm giving it to you.
That's fine. Now. I. Now I know all the rules
for Follow the Leader Halloween
Candy Edition. I can't wait for Follow
the Leader Thanksgiving Edition.
Maybe. We'll see how this goes.
So just briefly on Tua,
what does that stat mean to you? He is
just ahead of Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes,
Jalen Hurts, and Geno Smith
to lead the NFL in yards per attempt,
and he has only a 3.5% touchdown rate.
What does this all mean to you?
Jimmy Garoppolo has been a yards per attempt king for the past couple.
It's the best stat for him every year.
That's because Kyle Shanahan's offense produces a lot of yak,
and yak is really good for quarterbacks yards per attempt, and has Tyree kill and Jalen Waddle we should anticipate him continuing to have a very
high yards per attempt but not quite this high he's only 15th in yak he's only 15th in yak per
completion it's good it's not great he's actually throwing the ball downfield eighth in air yards
per pass attempt so it's not just the short stuff turning into long stuff. It's a mix,
which I think is good. But, but at the end of the day, Heath two only has one good fantasy game.
Almost all of his production was against the Ravens. Yeah, that's a little bit fluky, but,
um, I, I think he's a top five quarterback this week, so I'm starting him. All right.
I don't know him that high, but I do think he's a must start in the first three weeks of the
season. Week one, 8.2.
Week two, 9.4.
That was the game against Baltimore.
Week three against Buffalo, 10.3 yards per attempt.
The two games since these played against Cincinnati, 7.9.
And last week against Pittsburgh, 7.5.
I wonder if they're kind of changing their tune on what they want to do.
He was really bad last week.
He was very lucky he didn't have four interceptions.
Yes.
And he missed guys.
And even when he completed passes,
they were not in yakable spots for those guys to catch passes.
I just, I think that was a blip.
And also, 7.5 yards per attempt is above average.
Somebody asked me to take out the Baltimore game
and see where he ranks.
Well, I actually did that.
Weeks 1, 3, and 7, Tua was 5th in yards per attempt,
4th in passer rating, 19th in touchdown rate.
So pretty good to be 4th in passer rating and 19th in touchdown rate.
He was 5th in week 7?
No, overall, weeks 1, 3, and 7,
the other three games that Tua has played without leaving for injury,
he is 5th in yards per attempt.
Yeah.
All right.
Moving on.
Heath,
you got a delicious candy bucket there,
Dave,
you already ate your Snickers.
So you got nothing.
Who leads the NFL in carries inside the five yard line among,
among running backs.
Jalen hurts his number one,
who leads all running backs in carries inside the five yard line.
Dave,
Dave. Yeah. I buzzed in twice jamal williams incorrect he's second
um heath yeah
um josh jacobs just keep guessing guys who? Who's got the most carries inside the five-yard line?
Nick Chubb.
Tied for second with Jamal Williams.
You should get a list of the teams up.
It will help you.
AFC.
North or south?
You both are wrong.
Joe Mixon leads the NFL.
I didn't want to lose my candy.
Well, no, you don't lose your candy.
If I guessed wrong,
one more time I would have.
You get a gross one added.
You don't lose.
You weren't listening to the rules.
Joe Mixon only has one touchdown
despite having nine carries from inside the five-yard line.
One touchdown from that range.
All right, next up.
Who leads the NFL in end zone targets?
There are three players.
Actually, I'm sorry.
Devontae Adams leads with 10.
Who's next?
There are three players tied with nine.
Who has nine end zone targets?
Wide receivers only or anybody?
Anyone.
Dave.
Dave.
Elsie.
That's two wrong guesses for both of you.
You're one wrong guess away from getting some yucky stuff.
Dave.
Dave.
DK Metcalf.
He's one of them.
Way to go.
All right, we got two more on the board.
End zone target leaders after Devante Adams.
Dave.
Dave.
Irfan Diggs.
Oh, Heath.
Put something gross in Dave's candy.
I'm going to give him a toothbrush.
No, he's got to be candy.
I disagree.
I accept toothbrush as an answer.
He's getting some terrible things in his bucket that I've got.
Fine.
Fine.
Toothbrush.
Okay.
Heath, you got any guess?
Dave, you got any more guesses?
Mike Evans.
Oh, Dave, give him something gross.
I once got a piece of bread for Halloween.
You did not.
I swear to God.
What kind of bread?
White, at least?
I think it was white.
The person who answered the door didn't even know it was Halloween,
didn't have any candy, went into his house,
came back a minute later, and threw a piece of bread into my bag.
Zach Ertz.
Zach Ertz.
Oh.
All right, we'll move on here.
Wait a minute, I got one right.
So don't I get a candy?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, sure.
Yes, you do get a candy.
That's right.
What would you like?
I will take a full stuffed sausage Giordano's pizza.
I know where you go trick-or-treating.
I'm treating myself, man.
Give me one of those bad boys.
The answers are Allen Robinson, DK Metcalf, and Cortland Sutton.
They all have nine end zone targets.
Allen Robinson has nine end zone targets.
And he has at least one in every game.
So do you see buy low opportunities here on Allen Robinson,
DK Metcalf, or Cortland Sutton?
What do you think?
Well, you've got washed, hurt, and no quarterback.
Sutton nearly had a touchdown late last week.
Gardner made a really good play on the ball.
Otherwise, it would have been a touchdown.
He had nine targets last week.
I would not panic if I had Sutton,
but if you're in a league where somebody is panicking,
yes, he's a buy low.
All right.
Who leads the NFL in yards per carry?
Running backs.
Running backs.
Dave.
Yeah, and I'll just tell you,
there are four running backs who are averaging
more than six yards per carry.
Can you name them?
So those are the...
Oh, we can name any of the four?
Any of the four.
Hold on, I buzzed in already.
That's okay.
You can both get right answers.
Go ahead, Dave.
Ken Walker.
Ken Walker is correct.
Pick another candy.
Khalil Herbert.
Khalil Herbert is actually number one.
So yes, you both...
All right, both of you pick something yummy.
Burntons. I will take a of you pick something yummy. Burnt.
I will take a bone in ribeye.
OK, thank you guys for you.
Rude the game this time.
Not me.
Now we've got Khalil Herbert and Ken Walker.
I'm making it better.
Who are the other two running backs who have averaged six yards per carry?
Nick Chubb.
No.
Oh, wait.
I got another one.
Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave.
Travis Etienne. Yes. Go ahead wait. I got another one. Dave, Dave, Dave, Dave. Travis Etienne.
Yes.
Go ahead.
What else do you want?
Okay.
I will take, hold on.
I will take Oreo cookies on top of a 12-ounce chocolate frozen yogurt.
Okay.
With hot fudge.
All right.
I don't know why I'm overweight.
Heath, any other guesses?
Dave, any other guesses?
There's one more player
averaging six yards per carry.
Minimum carries?
40, I think I did.
Let me see.
You don't even know?
I'll tell you how many carries he has.
He has 57 carries this year.
Tony Pollard.
No.
And it's a running back, obviously.
You know what's really nice under a plate of burnt ends just a piece of bread
soak up all that juice and a toothbrush after you guys i cosign okay um who is it adam i'm
gonna let you guys each give each other one other gross thing just for fun go ahead
like give them mounds or whoppers or something
i don't know who those makes those things and i don't know if they have been or will be a
potential sponsor they're not i think we're fine all right milk duds for heath heath what are you
giving days we we have poopooed so many products and then years later it's guess who's going to sponsor the show now um sorry about the airheads
oh that's those are delicious but okay now dave gets delicious airheads all right uh the answer
is i'll give you one last hint he is a teammate of one of the three players who are averaging six
yards per carry cleo herbert ken walker tra Etienne. Oh, it's Dave.
Yeah.
Rashad Penny.
Rashad Penny.
You want something else,
or do you think you deserve something else in the bucket?
I think I do deserve something else, Adam,
because I got a correct answer.
I will go with a $100,000.
Oh, there you go.
And that's not the candy bar $100,000.
I'm talking about $100,000 in cash right in my Halloween bag.
Thank you very much.
All right.
Schaefer, does it even make sense to read the buckets?
Yeah, no.
We have nothing.
Dave has like a porterhouse, $100,000, airheads.
Stuffed pizza.
Stuffed pizza.
I think Dave wins.
But Heath is going to be able to brush his teeth.
We're going to finish the show with some rest of season rankings.
Rank them rest of season.
Ramondre Stevenson, David Montgomery, Miles Sanders.
Give the names again, please.
Ramondre Stevenson, David Montgomery, Miles Sanders.
Sanders, Stevenson, Montgomery.
I'll flip-flop Montgomery and Stevenson.
Sanders, number one, though.
Mm-hmm. All right.
Number two,
Travis ETN,
Damian Pierce,
Ken Walker,
rank them rest of season.
Walker Pierce,
ETN Walker,
ETN Pierce.
Why Walker?
Number one,
because he's awesome.
And how about you just got done showing the world that Seattle had two
running backs,
average six yards per carry?
Yeah.
But ETN is one of them, too.
ETN's in there, too.
ETN's been great.
My worry is what happens when he takes on too much work.
Still an awesome running back.
Stardom, no doubt.
By the way, Pierce has 13 catches in his last three games.
I said nine. Walker has 13 catches in his last three games. I said nine.
Walker has two catches in his two starts.
Okay.
By the way, explosive run percentage.
That's defined as 12-plus yard carries
with a percentage of carries that go for 12 or more yards by true media.
Ken Walker is number one.
Travis Etienne is sixth.
Damian Pierce is 29th.
Minimum 40 carries there.
This is a good one, I think. Rank these
guys rest of season. Chris Olave,
Michael Thomas, Michael
Pittman.
Olave's first. Olave,
Pittman, Thomas. Agreed.
Okay, why Pittman over Thomas?
He's playing
football.
When do you think Thomas will come back?
That's a great question.
How many licks did it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Pub?
The last commercial I saw was three.
One, two, three.
All right.
I believe Mr. Owl is a follower on Twitter by the way
of you?
yeah
I like Tootsie Roll Pops too
Russell Wilson by the way is practicing
just saw that
got a good chance to play this week
rank him rest of season
actually I want to spend a little bit more time on Olave
do you
try to sell him?
or what?
Because are you worried about him when Landry and Thomas,
specifically Thomas, come back?
No.
Not that worried.
Not enough to trade him
for whatever you can get.
Once again,
if somebody's willing to overpay,
let me give you an example
of what an overpay might look like for him.
Brian Robinson and Christian Kirk.
No, no, no.
No? You would rather have Olave?
I would.
Okay.
I wouldn't. I'd rather have those two.
I would take DeAndre Hopkins and Leonard Fournette.
That would be an overpay I would take, too.
Would you take Hopkins?
I was trying to dial it down.
Straight up.
What about Hopkins straight up for Olave?
Who would you rather have?
I've got Hopkins higher than Olave.
All right.
Last one.
Juju Smith-Schuster, Amari Cooper, Gabe Davis.
Rank them rest of season.
You know, I can't help but think that Cooper...
No.
Davis, Cooper, Juju.
Davis won.
Wow.
He has not had more than six targets in a game.
I know, but he's just so explosive.
In the perfect offense.
Yeah.
It's probably Cooper, Davis, Juju.
I think...
No, screw it.
Cooper, Juju, Davis.
Yeah, you're not a Davis guy
because he's not getting
a ton of targets.
He's just getting a ton
of touchdowns and yards,
whatever that means for fantasy.
Well, it's only been two games, though.
We saw a lot of it last year.
Week one.
Yeah.
I looked at,
in case anybody cares,
where Gabe Davis' upcoming opponents rank
in 20-plus air yard completions allowed.
In other words, do they give up long pass plays?
They rank 8th, 14th, 20th, 28th, 20th, 23rd, 14th, 23rd,
10th, 10th, and 23rd.
The last one is Week 18.
So, nothing terrible there.
Some teams that give up a lot of big pass plays.
It's kind of an interesting stat. It depends
a lot on who you've played.
And we're just, you know, we're not late
enough in the season where I'm making too much
of that stat.
Oh, I had one more. How about that? I didn't even
see it there at the end. Jalen Waddell, Debo Samuel,
Amonra St. Brown. Rank them.
St. Brown, Debo Samuel, Amonra St. Brown. Rank them. St. Brown,
Debo, Waddle.
Yeah, that
sounds right.
I think it's really close between Debo
and Waddle. I thought you were going to take Waddle over Debo.
Okay.
St. Brown, Debo, Waddle.
That's it for today's show.
We'll talk to you tomorrow with Start or Sit
for the AFC home games.
Appreciate your time.
I hope you all have as delicious Halloween's as Dave and he'd have trick or
treating at Morton's steakhouse.
We'll talk to you later.