Fantasy Football Today - Trade Talk! Fantasy Cops! Chargers-Chiefs! (09/14 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 14, 2022Ready to make some trades? We'll give you our favorite buy low (4:40) and biggest sell high (11:04) candidates after one week. Don't give up on D.J. Moore just yet, and see what you can get for Corrda...rrelle Patterson ... News and notes (20:55) with updates on the Thursday night game and a lot of Cowboys talk (23:30). How do we value the Cowboys options now that Dak Prescott is not going on IR? Then we'll preview Chargers-Chiefs (33:15)! Start Josh Palmer? Juju? ... It's Worroyometer Wednesday (44:00)! Dave and Heath tell you who they're actually worried about. Dave is worried about Allen Robinson. Heath is worried about Travis Etienne. Then we've got more buy low players (51:00), "Sell High or Heath Sigh?" (53:40), a team name contest (57:15) and the Fantasy Cops (1:00:00)! Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to your Wednesday edition of Fantasy Football Today.
Buy low, sell high.
Also, a new segment called Sell High or Heath Sigh.
We'll get to that a little bit later.
We'll take a look at the Thursday night game.
The Chiefs and the Chargers.
Not going to be sitting too many people in that game.
But what about guys like MVS, Josh Palmer?
Is Mike Williams going to have a bounce back game against the Chiefs?
And we'll have your injury updates as well.
I'm Adam Azer with Dave Richard and Heath Cummings.
Are you guys ready to wheel and deal?
Yes.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah.
How's that for a second?
Not as much.
No?
I want people to proceed with caution on these trades after one week.
We got a little glimpse of what's to come but there's there's so much that's going to change between now and even week three so just be
careful I was looking at um at Aaron Rogers and how he finished week one as QB 32, the worst starting quarterback in fantasy football.
And last year he was QB 35 after week one
and was QB 2 from that point forward.
So you're saying I shouldn't trade my DJ Moore
for Taysom Hill and Deshaun Watson?
I saw on Twitter this morning
someone dropped DJ Moore for Devin DuVernay.
Oh.
And I got...
I don't remember a guy getting as many messages,
people upset about DJ Moore as they were after one week.
Guys, first and second and third round players
are going to have bad weeks, bad two weeks.
Yeah.
It's okay.
Yeah.
I've said it a hundred times now.
They ran 50 plays second fewest
in the nfl give them a break like michael pitman ran michael pitman's team ran 40 more plays than
dj moore's team think about that michael pitman had almost an extra game than dj moore 90 plays
to 50 and cincinnati ran i think 95 94 95 96 somewhere in that range the most disturbing
thing of all was that on monday night
seattle actually ran fewer i know than carolina did 49 i did not think it was possible for them
to remain this slow and they did there's another weird thing carolina did you know how many runs
outside of the tackles they had they didn't have that many runs so i'm gonna guess four i know dj
moore had one.
That's the only one.
I think they're purposely trying to break Christian McCaffrey.
Every single run he had was either right up the middle or over guard.
Wow.
That's it.
And he didn't have a ton of runs.
It was weird.
It was not what I was expecting.
And he didn't have that many catches either. I think they knew they had such a terrible mismatch on the outside between Cleveland's edge and their edge.
They just had no chance.
That was the biggest mismatch in the game.
Sure.
And the Jets are going to have a similar mismatch, but I bet they'll do a better job managing that than what we saw from Carolina. Okay, so today on the show we also have the fantasy cops
to settle your league disputes,
including one in a CBS Sports League amongst us.
And let's get right to it.
A quick trivia question here before we get into Bilo and SoHi.
There were two quarterbacks, two quarterbacks that,
according to True Media, which is a stat source that we use,
did not have a single off-target throw in week one. Who were those two quarterbacks that, according to True Media, which is a stat source that we use, did not have a single off-target throw in week one.
Who were those two quarterbacks that did not have a single off-target throw in week one?
Taysom Hill.
No.
And?
They both play in the same state, kind of.
I, I, um, oh, wow.
Oh, Josh Allen and Daniel Jones correct correct I don't I my my actually my
internet froze while you were telling me what the two things were but when you said they both play
in the same state kind of I knew it was Josh Allen and Daniel Jones they were the two the two players
who did not have an off-target throw last week all right favorite by low candidate
oh i saw an off-target throw from josh allen and daniel jones what a throwaway or like a legit one
uh yeah was daniel jones interception on target was josh allen's second interception on target
i don't remember daniel jones's interception i remember his fumble did he throw an interception on target? I don't even remember Daniel Jones's interception. I remember his fumble. Did he throw an interception in the end zone? Oh yeah. Oh, that was a terrible pass.
How was that not on target? Yeah. It's subjective. All right. Heath, who's your favorite by low?
That's gotta be DJ Moore, right? Like somebody actually dropped him for Devin DuVernay
and somebody else sent me a tweet, said I would rather have Robbie Anderson and a punter than DJ Moore.
So I think nobody really believed that DJ Moore was as good as I did in the first place.
And then he had a bad game.
So, yeah, I would like to buy low on DJ Moore.
I'd like to maybe offer like a Jerry Judy for a DJ Moore.
It's so much Baker.
It's everybody.
I've seen so much of it.
I'm showing this comment right now.
People just think Baker stinks, and he's not that much of an upgrade.
So that's what it is, Heath.
And what's your response to that?
Maybe.
Baker got a lot worse than he's been through his entire career.
I'm telling you, they're so down on DJ Moore right now and so so down on baker mayfield i think it's a huge overreaction i i have mostly had positive experience over the
last couple of years on twitter um with like it seems like i can make six bad calls and the one
good thing i say is all i hear about on twitter my my twitter followers are fantastic that has
not been my experience the past couple of days.
The people are really upset about DJ Moore.
Okay.
All right.
So Jerry Judy for DJ Moore, something you would do.
I'm assuming you would still trade Gabriel Davis for DJ Moore.
I would trade Gabe Davis, yes.
Gabe Davis for DJ Moore.
Dave, would you rather have DJ Moore? Gabe Davis and Gabriel Davis.
Yes.
Who would you rather have, Dave? DJ and gabriel davis yes who would you rather have dave
dj more gabe davis dj more okay i want to cannot you cannot let one player one player's performance
especially in the first week of the season completely cloud your judgment unless there's
like legitimate evidence like did you watch dj more play? Did he look like DJ Moore or did he look like DJ Tanner?
I mean, I watched him play for like 15 minutes because that's how long they had the ball.
Right.
Well, like it's a different story with Alan Robinson for me because I watched Alan Robinson
play and there are so many factors that I think go against Robinson that if he doesn't get literally seven
plus targets every single game, I think he's going to disappoint. I don't think he's good
enough to be hyper-efficient and pop here and there.
Or if he scores every week. I don't think that necessarily happens.
So he's not my buy low. He's not my best buy low. I was going to say, there's a wide receiver in that
range that I'm terrified of after week one, and it was Darnell Mooney.
Really?
Because they were playing from behind for a good portion of that game,
and they threw 17 passes.
Their offensive philosophy is just don't lose the game on offense.
Run, run, run, run, run, run, run.
Heath, don't you have to take the conditions into account?
I don't.
This is true for Trey Lance as well.
Because like I said, that was the game I watched more of live than any other.
The conditions simply were not that bad for the first two and a half,
two and three quarters quarters.
It just wasn't that bad.
And that's the time when the Bears were mostly playing from behind. all right dave who's your favorite by low dk meccaf he had seven targets he
didn't do anything with it and he fumbled and i think people who took him knew the risks of gino
smith sabotaging his numbers when they drafted him and his ADP reflected that.
And now the casual person might think, oh, it's going to be like this every week where he gets a good catch amount, but he doesn't do anything with it.
I call hogwash.
I think he ends up being not great, but certainly better than five yards per catch.
I think Gino played well and didn't embarrass himself in the game.
The more that they utilize other players in the game. The more that
they utilize other players in the offense, the more likely it'll be that Metcalf doesn't draw
double teams all the time. And he's clearly going to get targets. He had 25% of Geno's targets.
It is a slow paced offense. He's not going to have 10 targets very often, but I think he's
absolutely worth trying to buy low on because easily this was his worst game of the year.
That goes without saying. And he still should pop for at least six weeks moving forward and i said on this the
live stream last night it's possible that he was facing a truly elite cornerback and patrick
who stuck to him like glue the entire game so uh and and you know their schedule does get easier
still threw at him a lot after after this
week the only thing i'm not sure about because he had seven catches for 36 yards forget about
the fumble i don't care about that that's 10.6 ppr fantasy points for his career he's caught 61
percent of his targets and averaged 8.8 yards per target. So seven targets should be four catches for 60 yards.
That's still 10 PPR fantasy points.
Probably a touchdown once every three weeks.
Do you think the cat, this is DK Metcalf we're talking about here, though.
I'll just follow up with this, and then we should move on.
Do you think the catch rate's going to go up now, though,
because he's not going to be used the same way?
The yards won't be the same, but the catch
rate might because, you know, Wilson was more
of a downfield guy with Metcalf, and Geno probably
won't be.
But Geno will take shots with him. It's just
not going to be as frequently
as Russ did.
I think the catch rate will likely... I could
be convinced that the catch rate
will go up, but I would expect
a corresponding decline in the
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And here are our favorite sell-high candidates.
Heath said buy low on DJ Moore. Dave said buy low on DK Metcalf. And Dave, who's our favorite sell high candidates. Heath said, buy low on DJ more.
Dave said, buy low on DK Metcalf and Dave, who's your favorite sell high.
I will. I like both these guys to sell highs provided that you're running backs are in good
shape. Kareem hunt and miles Sanders, because I don't think Kareem hunt's going to get two
touchdowns. This is probably among his best games of the year.
The upside with him really comes if Chubb gets hurt, and that could happen.
But I think I'm going to go with Sanders.
Sanders is my favorite sell-high.
He's coming off of a monster game against a defense that I think is not going to be great this year against the run again in Detroit.
And he's sharing still too much.
Only played 50% of the snaps.
So if you can sell high,
go to the Elijah Mitchell manager
and see if you can turn Miles Sanders
into somebody that was taken
in the first three or four rounds.
And that's the thing, right?
I mean, it's not that you can't keep Miles Sanders.
It's not like, you know,
he can certainly outperform where you drafted him,
maybe round eight or something like that
and have some good weeks,
but he's not going to be, in all, but he's not going to be in law.
Likely it is not going to be a consistent week to week star.
So Dave said,
someone you got in the first three or four rounds,
you got to sell high here.
Now there's a difference.
Okay.
DJ more.
Right.
But Dave,
my favorite sell high.
And I think the one that I saw the most on Twitter,
when I asked who would you sell high on is Cordaro Patterson. And I want to ask you the difference between Sanders and
Patterson, similar ADPs, both coming off encouraging week ones. The usage for Patterson was much better
than that for Miles Sanders. Who would you rather have? And I would just say like, I could just see
Cordaro Patterson being basically useless at some point this year. I don't know if you agree with
that, but I think he's by far my favorite sell high.
I don't think it's going to be immediate.
I mean, you might be able to get a good month out of him,
but I just don't buy it.
And career high in carries and yards in week one,
I don't think they're going to use him 20 carries a game.
So I feel like Sanders could be someone that's still worth rostering,
flex worthy most of the year.
Patterson, I feel like sell high because he's Cordaro Patterson.
He's like 30 years old or whatever and has had one good season
and it wasn't even a good full season.
How do you compare those two players who are both sell-high candidates,
Sanders and Patterson?
I wonder if we said the exact same thing after his first big game last year.
Yes.
Almost guarantee it.
But he struggled down the stretch.
Because he had never done it before.
And then he goes on to be the most consistent running back
in fantasy football until he gets hurt.
I think you can get more in a trade for Patterson
than you can for Sanders.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Because I think the general public saw one game
of Cordero Patterson
crushing it against a really tough defense.
Or at least we think they're a tough defense.
And they'll buy back in.
Let's do it.
And I kind of buy in a little bit too.
I think he's their best.
He might be their best.
He's definitely their best running back.
Might he be their best offensive weapon as well?
Okay, but do you think i mean answer that i guess answer the question who would you rather have sanders or patterson i did i'd
rather have patterson okay and then so you don't think that he could be like a total bust down the
stretch i think both of these guys could okay exactly both of them could but i think you can
get more for patter so who would rather have in a full ppr league rest of season right is the twitter
poll yep and we'll do it on youtube too oh you got it all right go for it good do it on
both i'm gonna forget to check it'd be funny if youtube was different than than uh than twitter
but i i think people know that sanders has serious competition here's the funny thing they know that
sanders has serious competition for touches as well as for touchdowns and short yardage because of Jalen Hurts.
I don't know if they're thinking about Mariota in that same way with Patterson.
They're close.
They're close on the trade chart.
They're close in my mind.
But I think Patterson might be a little bit better.
Sanders isn't playing the Lions every week.
I'm interested to see what happens because Damian Williams got two
of the first three carries before he left.
Yeah, that's over.
It's over.
Patterson proved that he can handle it.
I just don't know that they want him to handle it.
He's not really a running back, you know?
Well, then they're going to have a bad run game.
That's exactly.
I've thought that from day one.
That's the thing.
I didn't think they were going to have a good run game, but they surprised me in week one.
Let's see what happens going forward with Patterson.
All right, we'll see.
We'll check on the Twitter results.
Heath, who's your favorite sell high? I'm going to go with Antonio Gibson. He was phenomenal, and he has the history of being a borderline or high-end
number two running back each of the past two seasons, and I still think it's pretty likely
when Brian Robinson comes back, maybe it'll be mid-season. They're hoping week five, but I don't
know if it'll be 100% week five, that Ryan Robinson's going to earn double-digit carries in this offense,
and Gibson's not likely to be the short yardage back, and he's going to have to share passing
downs with J.D. McKissick. Now, I was encouraged that they used him in the passing game so much
more than McKissick, and I think that there is a chance that Robinson comes back, and it's just
Robinson and Gibson, as opposed to Robinson and McKissick with Gibson backing both of them up still 130 yard game seven catches 19 fantasy points I'd call it 20
um absolutely looking to sell it Gibson and I should have put him in the poll Gibson by the way
played only one snap on third down so his catches came on first and second down, and he was split out.
From what I saw on PFF, he was split out wide once.
I mean, he ran like a real route
and made a nice, great downfield catch,
but they weren't really using him that way.
They were just throwing the ball on first and second down.
It did not take many votes at all
that Cordero Patterson is just destroying Miles Sanders.
Take advantage.
I'm not saying you should hang on. I'm saying between the two, I'd rather have Patterson is just destroying Miles Sanders. Take advantage. I'm not saying you should hang on.
I'm saying between the two, I'd rather have Patterson,
but I would try and trade both.
Patterson's a good sell-high candidate,
especially since you probably drafted Patterson after Sanders.
I'll just ask this.
I think I know the answer,
but who would you rather have rest of season,
Jeff Wilson or Cordero Patterson?
Patterson.
Heath Patterson? but who would rather have recipes in jeff wilson record errol patterson patterson heath
yes for sure
and i'll tell you what i think gibson's trade values higher than both these guys
it on the i'm gonna run a gibson patterson poll next i think the
senators are close
would you rather have any of these three guys, Sanderson, Patterson, Gibson, or Brees Hall?
I'd rather start all of them this week.
Yeah. I think
format matters. Although Hall
had a lot of catches. I don't know.
There were 19
targets to the Jets running
backs last week. Five of them look like design plays to me, which means that there were 19 targets to the jets running backs last week five of them look like
design plays to me which means that there were 14 checkdowns joe flacco did not want to get hit
um i think hall's better in non-ppr i would take gibson i would say gibson has more value
rest of season i don't i don't want to do i don't know about rest of season, but as far as fantasy trades
go, overhaul right now.
I don't love doing 180s,
but I feel like I need
to do a 180 on Brees Hall from where I was
about a month ago when I was extremely excited
to draft him. I think it could be
a Javante type of season.
Just kind of frustrating.
Michael Carter just not going to go away.
What's that? We said that tweet it's funny that like he's show we're showing here
on youtube the uh the cordero patterson poll but as adam's talking about changing his mind on
breeze hall the tweet that i retweeted just before i did this poll um, might be relevant to Breesal. What is it?
It's when all of the rookie wide receivers broke out.
Be patient.
Yeah.
And Breesal is not a receiver, but still.
No, I know.
Be patient with rookies in general.
Would you trade Cordaro Patterson for Damian Pierce?
No.
Patterson's higher on the trade chart.
So that means no.
Okay.
The trade chart is awesome, by the way.
Dave publishes a trade chart every week,
gives you sort of a rest-of-season value
for every relevant player,
and will help you make trades.
Now, you shouldn't take it as,
it's not like 100% accurate,
because your team,
your depth at a certain position
should influence your trades as well.
But if you want to know how to value players rest of season,
please check out the trade chart is so cool.
It's great stuff.
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A lot of staples of the football season.
You got the roar of the crowd.
You get the touchdown dances.
You got pick sixes.
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Maybe in Dave Richards' dad's fridge.
There you go.
A man can change his mind, right?
I could become a wide receiver guy.
I could become a super flex guy.
I could become a yards per target guy.
But I can also be a Miller Lite guy. I could become a super flex guy. I could become a yards per target guy, but I can also be
a Miller light guy. And if you're a beer lover, you don't want watered down flavor. That's no good.
You want the original light beer. You want a beer that actually tastes like beer. And that's what
Miller light is. Miller light actually tastes like beer. And with college football here, it's
great to kick back on Saturdays and just pop open a Miller Lite and enjoy the games.
I know I'll be doing it on Saturday night when our Canes take on Texas A&M.
It is basically the season on the line for the Canes.
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All right, guys.
Let's do some news and notes here.
Keenan Allen unlikely to play this week.
They have the Thursday game against the Chiefs.
Also, Donald Parham is out this week.
That's their other tight end.
So that's going to make Gerald Everett more appealing.
He's a top 10 tight end for all three of our analysts right now.
And JC Jackson,
their star cornerback,
or they got from the Patriots missed week one.
And boy,
it showed his Devante Adams torch them.
He's a little bit.
He was listed as limited in their walkthrough on Tuesday.
I don't know if it was a walkthrough, but a light practice, whatever it was, he was listed as limited.
Let's hope he can get back out there. J.C.
Jackson for the Chargers.
Najee Harris is questionable. He says
he's playing. Mike Tomlin didn't exactly
commit to that. And Mike Tomlin
said that Jalen Warren did not urinate
down his leg, which is always something
I'm looking for in a rookie running back, Heath.
Yeah, I...
How are we feeling about Najee Harris
if he does play this week?
I feel really, really gross about him.
Patriots.
It was a bad performance
from the Steelers' offensive line all the way way around the one thing the Patriots were
pretty darn good at in week one was stopping the run and that's historically been something they've
been pretty good at Mitchell Trubisky only through 8% of his passes to running backs and
Najee Harris had a lisfranc injury that was reported as an ankle injury,
and now an injury that apparently was not a re-aggravation of a Lisfranc,
but is being reported as an ankle injury.
I just don't feel confident he's going to finish the game or be very good if he does.
Okay, well, I don't think people are going to sit him,
but would you rank him outside your top, say, 15, Najee Harris?
My projections, I had him 32nd.
I moved him up to like 23rd in the rankings.
Okay.
Oh, sorry.
That's tricky.
Am I the only one with any concern, Dave?
No, I've got concern too.
But I obviously have him much higher in my rankings
because you're talking about a running back that is going to get a lot of work.
But we don't even have confidence he's going to get a lot of work.
He's not healthy.
That's a good point.
Let's see how much he practices this week.
If he ends up only practicing one day this week,
then I think there's legitimate cause.
But if he's going out on radio shows and saying,
I'm fine, I'm good to go, I'm going to
play, then
I trust it. I
believe it. If the practice report says
differently, that's when things will change.
Let's talk about the Dallas Cowboys here.
Dak Prescott avoided IR.
That would have put him out for four games at least.
Those four games would have been Cincinnati,
the Giants, Washington, and the Rams.
So they are hopeful that he can come back within a month, basically.
Where is CeeDee Lamb, Dave, and where is Ezekiel Elliott in the trade chart?
They're much lower because of concern for how the Cowboys offense is going to operate
in the short term and kind of in the long term, that offensive line took another hit and Ezekiel Elliott looked good when he
had room to run,
but he still,
you know,
didn't put up numbers like we were hoping for from Ezekiel Elliott,
or maybe it was what we were hoping for because we weren't taking him in
rounds one or two anymore.
And lamb is just huge risk just because of Cooper rush.
Now under center,
he could have, he could have a lower A dot and maybe a higher catch rate,
but just not do anything with it.
And I think that's almost what you have to hope for.
But if Dak comes back sooner than expected,
then I think you could expect CeeDee Lamb to be maybe even a decent value
to trade for right now.
If people have just gotten so tired or nervous,
I guess is the better term, as far as Lamb goes.
They might be nervous because they don't know what to expect.
There are people who traded Lamb straight up for A.J. Dillon.
I don't have a problem for that, even in full PPR.
I guess I need to know the names that they're around.
I told someone, someone said, should I trade Lamb for Sutton?
I said, yes.
Agreed. If you're getting Sutton
back, that's a great move. I would keep
Lamb over Metcalf.
Yeah, I'm not certain that I
would even trade. I was really
down on Lamb at
first glance, and I made the comment, what's
the difference between him and Amari Cooper?
And the difference is, is the Cowboys are still going to throw
40 times a game, because they're going to be behind. And so he's going to get 10 targets a game. And the difference is, is the Cowboys are still going to throw 40 times a game. Right. Because they're going to be behind.
And so he's going to get 10 targets a game.
And it's really, like, you've got a group of wide receivers that we rank as, I'm ranking
as number two wide receivers, who probably have better quarterbacks than CeeDee Lamb,
but have mediocre quarterbacks and are just volume wide receivers that are really, really
good.
And I think Lamb's one of those guys.
So I've still got him ranked as a number two this week.
From a trade standpoint here,
where would you rank him rest of season?
With definitely not any clarity on Dak Prescott.
It was supposed to be six to eight weeks.
Now they're optimistic that,
now they're hoping that he might not need to go on IR,
which was very surprising.
So, you know, rest of season, CeeDee Lamb.
For you, Heath, CeeDee Lamb or Corlin Sutton?
Lamb.
Dave?
Sutton.
CeeDee Lamb or Mike Williams?
I've never been a huge Mike Williams guy, so I'll take Lamb.
Lamb.
All right.
So I guess if we were redrafting today,
he's probably a late third
round pick in a 12-team league for us.
He's 17th among wide receivers
in the trade chart in full
PPR, but it's a four-way tie.
That seems perfectly reasonable.
It's a four-way tie, so at worst, he's 20th.
Ezekiel Elliott or A.J. Dillon?
Rest of season.
I think you can get more
in trade for Dillon than Zeke right now. Ezekiel Elliott or Clyde Edwards-Elayer? Rest of season I think you can get more in trade for Dylan than Zeke right now
Ezekiel Elliott or Clyde Edwards-Elair rest of season
I'll take Zeke
okay would you trade Gibson
for Zeke
yes
I think you can aim higher with Gibson
but you would do it
Twitter poll results have Patterson
crushing Gibson as well.
Would you trade Patterson for Zeke?
I think that's because people think Patterson's going to be a rest of season
league winner, just like last year.
I would trade Patterson.
I don't know if I believe that.
I don't know if I believe that,
but I especially believe that Gibson is going to be good now and then
potentially very bad by the time we get to mid-October.
Okay, Dalton Schultz,
if we're redrafting today,
does he move behind Goddard and Hawkinson?
I mean, even if he already was,
is he now clearly behind Goddard and Hawkinson,
Dalton Schultz?
No.
Behind Goddard.
Not for me.
Uncertain on Schultz.
Hawkinson and Schultz are kind of a push
see i think one more week 10 targets for pat frymuth you might be behind him
yeah yes that's true fire mood moved up quite a bit yeah i talked about that last night with
dan because he he was pretty optimistic on frymuth and i just thought i just kind of feel like yeah
that week one was a frymuth week week Week two could easily be a Claypool week.
Week three could be a Pickens week.
I wasn't all that moved by week one with the Steelers.
Of course, Fryermuth's going to have some good weeks,
but a lot of people are super high on them.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know how many tight ends that we were not drafting
as top seven or eight tight ends are going to have 10 target games.
I was surprised by the 10 targets.
Yeah.
All right.
J.K. Dobbins, Dave said it on Sunday night's recap,
Jason Locke and Foro was on Fantasy Football today
on Sunday morning,
and he did not paint the most optimistic picture
about Dobbins getting back to his old self
until a little later in the year,
maybe around mid-season. I don't want to misquote Jason, but you might want to just be a little cautious with Dobbins getting back to his old self until, you know, a little later in the year, maybe around midseason.
I don't want to misquote Jason, but you might want to just be a little cautious with Dobbins.
I hope he comes back because they really, really need him.
They had no run game against one of the worst run defenses in football from last year.
So hopefully we see Dobbins this week.
I don't know.
Ty Montgomery's on IR.
Ramondre Stevenson was dropped in our 10-team For the People podcast league, Heath.
We got to put in a bid for Ramondre Stevenson.
Is he, are both Harris and Stevenson big winners here
with Ty Montgomery out at least four weeks?
It was so strange.
Bill Belichick, all preseason,
talking about how good Ramondre Stevenson is
in the passing game.
And then Damian Harris goes out
and posts a career-high 10% target share
and ran, I think, as many routes as Ty Montgomery did.
And Montgomery was the passing downs guy without any question.
For sure.
It was dominant on third downs.
Yeah, third downs.
Like Gibson, there are passing downs that are not third down.
Yeah, that's right.
It does not look to me like from week one usage, Ramondre Steven, like there's,
there's things that we think are going to happen that haven't happened yet.
And we kind of had something that happening with Rondre Stevenson and I didn't see any
indication that was true.
I don't have confidence that Stevenson's going to get more passing downs than Damian Harris
this week.
But they both should get more passing downs.
I think so.
I would consider this just as big a boost for Harris as Stevenson,
and Harris was ahead of Stevenson in the first place.
Harris is ahead of Stevenson on running downs.
Harris ran plenty of routes.
It's who's going to get that third down gig.
All right, guys, I failed a little bit with the pace of this show because we have a lot more to get
to, so I'm going to fly through the rest of these news and notes.
The Saints signed Latavius Murray to the
practice squad. You can just stop me if anything is
really important. People are worried
that that's going to impact Alvin Kamara.
People are kind of freaking out about Alvin Kamara.
That's a not
bad buy low.
He has a rib injury.
I'm just worried that...
He has a rib injury, but they just worried that... What's that? He has a rib injury.
Rib injury, but they think
he's going to play through it.
You'd have to be a super panicky person
to be nervous about Kamara
after the one game.
So that's why I don't think he's...
You can try and trade for him,
but most fantasy managers
are probably going to hang on that.
Okay.
The 49ers signed Marlon Mack.
I don't think that's a big deal.
They've got great confidence in those rookie running backs.
Brian Dable said Kadarius Tony is working his way back.
So it could have been injury related.
We'll see.
Lovey Smith wants Damian Pierce to get more work.
He had 12 touches, 11 carries, one catch.
Ken Walker is going to play this week.
I understand how Lovey feels.
You want Damian Pierce to come to work,
but we just don't have any control over it,
do we, Levy?
Oh, man.
Ken Walker's going to play this week.
He's 84% rostered.
Might make Rashad Penny tough to trust,
but we'll talk about that game later.
They're at San Francisco.
Nathaniel Hackett said he should have gone for it.
So he and Levy Smith get to have do-overs this week as they face each other in Denver, Broncos and Texans. TJ Watt is out about
six weeks. That is a big relief. They gave up. Sharp Football Analysis had this stat. I read it
on the air on last Thursday's episode, I think. The Steelers gave up an extra yard per play
without TJ Watt on the field last season
compared to with TJ Watt.
That is incredible.
A yard per play.
Kansas city cornerback,
Trent McDuffie is on IR with a hamstring injury.
First round pick corner.
He'll miss at least four weeks.
Here come the chargers.
Yeah.
On a short week,
Harrison Butker likely out this week.
So you're probably going to need a new kicker. Alvinara has that rib injury but he's expected to be fine and irv smith barely played
in week one and minnesota head coach kevin o'connell said he just wasn't as much as part
of the game plan as tight end johnny munt so there could be weeks where he's just not in the game plan
and that definitely takes the shine off of irv sm. What did O'Connell say about Adam Thielen?
Was he not part of the game plan either?
I don't know.
I think maybe he said something like, well,
Adam Thielen wasn't left completely wide open all day by the Packers
secondary.
So we didn't throw to him.
Unlike Justin Jefferson,
the game plan was throw to Justin Jefferson and then throw to Justin
Jefferson and then keep throwing to Justin Jefferson.
All right, guys, let's victory. Dave, cue the music. It is time for Thursday night football. and then throw to Justin Jefferson and then keep throwing to Justin Jefferson.
All right, guys.
Let's... Dave, cue the music.
It is time for Thursday Night Football.
Chargers at Chiefs.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Stat of the game.
Let's take a look at the routes run by Kansas...
Sorry, by Chargers wide receivers.
You might see that Josh Palmer ran 25
and DeAndre Carter ran 14 in the game
but in the second half it was basically a four-way tie Mike Williams ran 13 Palmer 12 Everett 11
Carter 11 so basically what happened was DeAndre Carter just filled in for Keenan Allen so that's
why his routes yeah his routes were lower he didn't't run any. Yeah, he didn't run a route in the first quarter.
He didn't run any when Allen was playing.
Right.
So that's basically what that was.
So with that said, look, I'm not going to get too complicated with this game, right?
We're starting Eckler, starting the quarterbacks.
Which quarterback do you like better, by the way?
Mahomes.
Mahomes.
We're starting Mike Williams. is he a slam dunk?
Starting him without even thinking about it.
He's a number two receiver.
And Eckler is obviously a slam dunk
even after a slightly disappointing game.
We only played like half the snaps.
It's pretty low, so we'll keep an eye on that.
Okay, the tricky ones, I guess, would be the Chargers wide receivers other than Mike Williams. game we're only played like half the snaps pretty low so we'll keep an eye on that um okay the
tricky ones i guess would be the chargers wide receivers other than mike williams and the chiefs
wide receivers and then we'll talk about clyde in a little bit but let's let's talk wide receivers
or who's the second best wide receiver in this game behind mike williams assuming williams is
your highest rank guy for me it's juju i think he's a flex though so not really loving him as like a sure
fire slam dunk start could have a game similar to what we saw in week one chargers played a lot
of man coverage against the chiefs last year and that's where i think smith schuster's going to
struggle the majority of his catches last week came against zone coverage two of them did come
against man coverage one of them he was lined up against a linebacker.
So I don't blame Mahomes for throwing to Juju against a linebacker,
and it was one of his bigger plays.
I don't think the Chargers, rather, are going to do that.
Consider some other options with Juju.
For example, I've got to bring up my rankings real quick,
but a couple of receivers that I would start ahead of Juju this week,
Tyler Boyd, I would go with him.
Waddle, I would go with him.
CeeDee Lamb, we'd go with him.
And Mike Williams, too.
I'm really interested in that.
I mean, I'm very encouraged by Juju.
He had eight targets.
He had six catches for 79 yards.
He did fumble twice, but he only played three snaps in the fourth quarter,
whereas MVS played
10. Hardman played six.
Sky Moore played six. Justin Watson played
four. Edwards-Hilaire played zero. Yeah, I know.
Right, so... So, what does that
tell me? Tells me that the Chiefs
were in conservation
mode, knowing that they had a Thursday game.
And the fact that Juju Smith-Schuster had 79 yards
in three quarters in a blowout
win, and this
game hopefully will be a shootout, I cannot imagine sitting him. But you're not saying to sit him.
No, I flex expectations. Okay. Heath, are you higher on Juju than Dave?
We just showed my rankings. It showed us in exactly the same spot, but yes.
I didn't see that. I'm sorry. I've got him, I think, at 27. So he's a number three wide receiver.
He and Josh Palmer are basically tied for me. I think Palmer, I'm not buying into what DeAndre Carter did last week. So I expect it to be Williams and Palmer getting a majority of the
targets. I don't know what that spread the ball around, run too much offense from the Chargers
was. As a fantasy analyst, I hate it. And I don't want those people to be in charge anymore. As a
Chiefs fan, I just hope the Chargers do that all year. And we'll wonder, how are the Chargers 9-8
and didn't make the playoffs again? But no, I think you start Mike Williams. Juju and Palmer
are both good number three wide receivers. I don't really want to start Carter or MVS and certainly not Sky Moore or Meikle.
Josh Palmer's 26% rostered.
So he didn't do much last week because nobody had more than four targets,
but he had a good game last year without Keenan Allen against the Giants.
I don't have those numbers right in front of me.
I'm sorry, but I can get them.
But he had a good game.
I believe he scored.
And yeah, he had 66 yards and a touchdown on seven targets when Justin Herbert threw 31 passes in
that game last year. That's Josh Palmer we're talking about. So would you start Josh Palmer
or Adam Thielen against the Packers? Thielen. Dave does not even rank Josh Palmer. Yeah,
you're not going to get many names ahead of Josh Palmer for me this week.
Let's talk about that, Dave.
Heath just made the case for Palmer.
He says he's got him right around where he has Juju Smith-Schuster,
number three wide receiver.
You're not interested in Palmer so much this week?
I'll take Carter.
I think he's got a safer floor than Palmer.
Slot receiver guy, getting the opportunity to play,
good short yardage and medium range target for Justin Herbert.
And if Herbert's going to throw more and they're spreading the ball around
like they did last week, who's to say that they both don't end up
with the same amount of targets?
I think with Palmer, he's going to have to score.
I don't really like either one of them.
I like Gerald Everett better, significantly.
Heath, since you're the higher guy on Palmer,
would you rather have Palmer or Rashad Bateman against the Dolphins?
I've got Palmer and Juju ahead of Bateman.
Would you rather have Palmer or Allen Robbins?
Oh, you have them back-to-back.
I've got Robinson, then Juju, then Palmer is where I'm at now.
Okay, okay.
How about DK Metcalf or Palmer? DK, then Robinson, then Juju, then Palmer is where I'm at now. Okay, okay. How about DK Metcalf or Palmer?
DK, then Robinson, then Juju, then Palmer.
Okay.
Just go to the guy right now.
DJ, DK, then Juju, then Palmer, then Bateman,
then Claypool, then Thielen, then London.
All right, how about running backs?
Would you start Josh Palmer, Juju Smith-Schuster, or Clyde?
Oh, Clyde. How muchuster, or Clyde? Oh, Clyde.
How much do you like Clyde this week?
Chargers run defense sucked last year, and nothing changed in week one.
No.
I mean, it's not that Jacobs had a great game in week one,
but a lot of metrics went against him.
The worry that I have with Clyde, and also our Clyde ahead of Juju,
even in full PPR, it's just the lack of usage.
But I'm hoping the reason for it
was because the Chiefs knew
that they had a Thursday game. They were blowing out the
Cardinals. There was no need
to play Edwards Hilaire.
He was out by the middle of the third quarter.
So I kind of love it.
Pacheco had almost no work.
I was going to say they treated him like a true number one running back.
Like he had – I know he only had seven carries or ten touches,
but ten touches and two and a half quarters,
and then the game's out of hand.
Pretty good.
Don't get him hurt.
And how about scheming him up for inside the ten targets?
He took – and this was what I was hoping he would do,
and it may not happen anymore,
but week one, he was used in some of those Tyreek ways in the red zone that have taken away running
back touchdowns in the past. Those scheme them up just wide open in the end zone type things.
Did you see on the second touchdown catch he had, I think it was Valdez Scantling,
threw a pick on
two Cardinals defenders
that really freed up Edwards-Hilaire. It was an
awesome play from MVS.
Great block. Are you starting
Clyde or Cordaro Patterson against
the Rams?
Cordero.
Yeah, I've got Cordero one spot
higher because I feel better about the
workload. Alright, how about the other running back in that game,
Daryl Henderson or Clyde?
Clyde.
Henderson and Patterson are two backs
that I have quite a bit higher in week two
than I do rest of season.
So I'd start Henderson and Patterson over.
Interesting.
Okay.
Ezekiel Elliott against the Bengals
or Clyde Everett-Ziller?
Clyde.
Same.
Okay, let's finish up here with Gerald Everett.
And you guys have him around 10th.
Would you start him over Dalton Schultz?
No.
Nope.
Pat Fryer-Muth or Gerald Everett?
Everett.
I would go with the Muth.
Even against New England?
Even against New England.
The Muth is...
Because I think the Steelers don't care. I usually don't care about match-ups. I didn't match-ups thing, but New England? Even against New England. Because I think the Steelers don't care.
I usually don't care about tight end matchups thing,
but New England and the Saints are getting to the points of scaring me.
49ers perhaps as well.
Well, the Bills too, but really a bit.
Let's see, one more.
How about Gerald Everett or Tyler Higby?
Higby? Higby.
In PPR, I've got Higby two spots higher.
I could see myself pivoting off that, though,
because I'm worried about Higby.
He had so many targets in the fourth quarter
when they were playing catch-up, and he stunk with them.
I wonder if he takes a big step back
in terms of opportunities this week,
particularly in a game that the Rams don't have to play from behind in.
I do think he'll take a big step back,
but he had a 27% target share last week,
so he could take a big step back from that.
What was his target share through the first three quarters?
Well, I don't have that information.
I can get it for you.
I'm moving Everett ahead of him right now.
We'll talk about Higby later in the week.
You do have Everett ahead of Dawson Knox and Cole Komet.
And that is going to do it, Dave, for Thursday Night Football.
Na, na, na, na, na, na, na!
We'll take a break.
When we come back, it's Worry-O-Meter Wednesday.
Dave and Heath are going to tell you who they're actually worried about.
We'll give you more buy lows and sell highs.
I have like six more segments that we have to squeeze into 20 minutes,
so we'll be right back.
I'm going to go turbo ludicrous speed on fantasy football today.
All right, welcome back.
Let's go.
It is Worryometer Wednesday.
Instead of doing the Worryometer the way we usually do it,
you tell me who you're actually worried about.
Dave, you said you're actually worried about Allen Robinson.
You already detailed that.
What I want you to do is tell me how worried you are
and where you see them
rest of season. So Allen Robinson,
the Cowboys, and Kyle Pitts, Dave.
That's where we're starting with our Worryometer Wednesday.
I feel like we're already on
a Joe Boo week for Allen Robinson.
That if he can't see good target share
after Sean McVay told the media
in the wake of their week one loss
that he needs to get Allen Robinson more involved.
It would shock me if he had another game with only one catch and two targets.
The problem that I saw with Robinson is that he would find a way to get open,
but by the time he was open, Matthew Stafford either threw the ball
to somebody else or he was getting collapsed upon by a defending Buffalo Bill.
I think the offensive line is a huge problem for Robinson
if he can't get open quicker.
They need to shorten his routes, and he's okay.
He can get open with short out routes and in-breaking routes
and stuff like that, but then they've got to feed him the football to do it.
So I'm definitely nervous about Robinson.
I've got him ranked as a flex this week.
I would rather start Juju Smith-Schuster.
Cowboys, pretty obvious to be worried about them
because we don't know how long Dak's going to be on.
And when Dak comes back, the offensive line could still be a problem.
I think what you have to hope for is that the Cowboys use the next three
to four games to get their offensive line working
and to be in better shape than it was when we won.
And then that Dak comes back, he's well-protected,
and the offense runs as functionally as they were hoping for
before Tyron Smith
got hurt. From my lips
to the fans who got to yours on that one.
And then with Kyle Pitts, he had
seven targets. Four of them were either late
throws from Mariota or off-target
throws, and so I'm a little
nervous about him having this explosive
year. And he's
not on a Joe Boo week yet, but
if he goes the month of September without scoring, and without on a Joe Boo week yet, but if he goes the month of
September without scoring
and without having a huge game for fantasy,
I think people are going to start to think,
uh-oh, he might be a legitimate
pass, but I think he needs a great
quarterback. If he gets
paired with a great quarterback, I think he could be awesome.
I don't know when that's going to happen. That might not happen
until 2023 or 2024.
Dave, hop off and back in if you wouldn't mind.
Connection's going out just a little bit.
We'll get right back to him.
Dave said Allen Robinson, he's worried about all the Cowboys.
Rewind like 20 minutes.
We talked about the Cowboys more in depth than Kyle Pitts.
Is Kyle Pitts, for you, Heath, Waller, Kittle, Pitts,
how would you rank them?
Still Pitts, Waller, Kittle, Pitts, how would you rank them? Still Pitts, Waller, Kittle.
I agree.
Pitts is nowhere close to a Joe Boo week because he's a tight end.
He's going to be started no matter what happens.
But another bad week, and people are going to regret probably the third round price they paid for him.
Okay, and Joe Boo week, what the hell
is a Joe Boo week? You might be asking if you've ever seen the movie major league, there's a moment
bleep you Joe Boo. I'll do it myself though. That's one of my favorite references that you guys make.
All right, Heath, you're worried about Najee Harris, Travis ETN and Darnell Mooney and Dave
is back. So talk to me about rest of season harris etn and darnell mooney
like basically the three concerns that i had about naji harris will the offensive line be any better
will his russian efficiency be any better will the target share still be there um resounding no
across the board and all three and then throw in the fact that he's got a hurt foot or an ankle or
both and that makes me very
concerned he's still someone that's a high-end number two running back for me rest of season
uh he could still get back into the top 10 discussion but i was low on harris coming
into week one and week one was an absolute disaster for him okay naji Najee Harris, ETN. I will. He was so good when he touched the ball. He was PFFs
second highest rated running back. Are we counting the drop as when he touched the ball? Uh, no.
Cause he did touch the ball. He should have had two, two, maybe three touchdowns in that game.
And he was electric with the ball. How about this with the ball in his hands? That's a better way
of putting it.
And he also had, are we counting the time when he fumbled inside the 10-yard line?
Only the portion of that.
Because the ball was in his hands.
Only when he had the ball in his hands.
He had the ball and then he didn't.
I'm not counting.
From the moment the ball was knocked out of his hands, I've turned off the TV. The thing that bothers me, the dude's electric.
There's no question but he does the things that
drive he did and has done the things that drive coaches wild he he should have had a touchdown
and dropped it he fumbled inside the 10-yard line he does have a tendency to not run exactly where
the play is designed and try to hit a home run every single
play i think he's going to have some monster weeks he's a fine flex this week but yes i'm worried
he had six touches travis etn it's hard to know awful yeah that's pretty that's pretty bad would
you rather have james robinson or travis Etienne rest of season? Robinson.
Dave?
Etienne.
And I'm worried about both.
I don't know.
I still don't think this is a good offense.
And they both played exactly the same number of snaps.
Most concerning, maybe.
I believe Etienne played more snaps in the first half. Robinson played more in the second half.
Yuck. Definitely worried if I drafted him in the first four rounds go ahead dave this was etn's first nfl game sure i i'm willing to give him a pass to some degree the the drops
that stuff i can't get past but everything else i i get it. I get why Jacksonville may not have fed him a ton.
I get why they might've split those reps with Robinson.
They might've had a plan going into the game where ETN would play more than
Robinson. And then Robinson ended up going off early on and they said,
crap, he's good. Let's let him roll. And that could continue to happen.
And I've said it before.
You could see Robinson play more than ETN over the course
of the year. But I still think ETN is, we we've talked about it already in the last two minutes.
He's fun to watch. He can change. And those mistakes aren't going to happen every week.
At least I hope they don't happen every week. And he's still going to be a useful fantasy piece.
He he's a much better prospect. And. He probably won't be this at all.
The name that
pops into my head, I think it was
the first screaming argument that Adam
and I ever had on the show. I know what you're going to say.
Oh. CJ Spiller?
CJ Spiller. Yeah.
Oh, man.
All right. Let's move on.
You guys gave me a whole bunch of sell highs.
You also were worried about Darnell Mooney.
You did talk about that earlier in the show.
He had three targets in a game where they were trailing
and threw 17 times.
They're at Green Bay this week.
Then the schedule does get a lot easier after that for Mooney,
but we'll reevaluate.
You gave me a whole bunch of buy lows and sell highs.
I do want to get to the fantasy cops as well.
If you could do me a favor,
Heath, give me all your buy lows in two minutes.
My all buy low team, it's a 2QB team. Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Aaron Jones, Josh Jacobs,
CeeDee Lamb, DJ Moore, Mike Williams, Mark Andrews. Most of these make perfect sense.
The Josh Jacobs one might concern people a little bit, but I was really encouraged that he was not sharing carries with Zamir White.
I don't think that he's going to be in quite as bad a situation as we thought.
I actually like him this week against a very bad Arizona defense.
He could be a low-end number two running back.
Everything's fine.
I don't know what happened with the Aaron Jones thing,
but he led the team in route participation as a running back.
Things are going to be A-OK for Aaron Jones thing, but he led the team in route participation as a running back. Things are going to be A-OK for Aaron Jones.
And Justin Fields and Trey Lance are low-end QBs.
Low-end starting...
Low-end QBs in week one.
Low-end starting QBs, high-end number twos.
We don't care about how bad their floor is.
Go buy low just in case they hit their ceiling.
That was beautiful.
Dave, same thing for you.
Give me your buy lows.
DK Metcalf, TJ Hawkinson, Tom Brady. I already talked about Metcalf. Hawkinson, I think,
is going to be a consistent target getter. And so if you're streaming tight ends to begin the year,
maybe add Njoku. Ugh, that didn't work out. See if you can make a cheap deal to get Hawkinson.
I think he'll be worth starting week in and week out. And Brady had a bad game,
and I know he's not going to have Godwin for the next three or four weeks.
But I still feel like especially maybe wait a week.
Wait a week.
Because he plays the Saints.
Yeah.
Wait one week on Tom Brady.
But maybe put the blueprint down, find the Tom Brady manager in your league,
and start working on the parameters of a deal,
and then hammer it home after this game against the Saints.
And then you'll be a week closer to Godwin being back, too.
That's a win-win all the way around.
He's going to have some great numbers this year.
You just got to be patient.
And my buy low is Traylon Burks, 78% rostered.
This is a guy that you throw into a trade offer.
Say, oh, yeah, give me Traylon Burks.
He played 37% of the snaps and got 55 yards on five targets against the Giants.
That snap count is going to go up.
Traylon Burks has a great chance to be the best wide receiver for the Titans
and a really good fantasy contributor.
It takes time for rookie wide receivers.
I was encouraged that he contributed 55 yards.
Not for Kyle Phillips.
Exactly.
Kyle Phillips is there already.
I think their two best wide receivers are going to be rookies.
Yeah, Traylon Burks will be better than Kyle Phillips.
Love Kyle Phillips.
Go get him.
And Burks might get dropped. If you see Burks
get dropped in your league, I think you should definitely stash
him. All right, let's do
sell high or Heath side.
These are from the listeners.
Should we sell high or
don't sell high? Michael Thomas.
If you could get someone to value
Michael Thomas like a top 12 wide
receiver, I would 100% sell high. He used to be a top 12 wide receiver. I think he finished the top 12 wide receiver this week. If you could make that argument, sell high.
He was terrible for the first three quarters, and then he turned it on. So did Jameis in the fourth quarter. I am cautiously optimistic that Michael Thomas is back.
Would you rather have CeeDee Lamb or Michael Thomas?
Thomas. I would rather have CeeDee Lamb or Michael Thomas? Thomas.
I would rather have Lamb.
Jeff Wilson, sell high or heath sigh?
Love the idea of adding Jeff Wilson
and then trading him for almost anything.
Yes.
Yes!
Anything Jaguars, sell high or heath sigh?
I guess that's Robinson and Kirk.
I thought about saying sell high on Kirk,
but I don't think I believe it.
I think he's going to continue to see a lot of targets.
I think this is a team that does throw a lot.
Does that mean that Robinson is a sell high?
Maybe.
If you can get top 15 return on James Robinson, go for it.
Robinson was one of my sell highs.
So yes, do it.
Do it.
Do it.
Would you rather have Christian Kirk, who had 12 targets and 117 yards, or DK Metcalf?
Kirk.
Metcalf.
Okay.
Yeah, like Kirk, look, if you can turn him into a guy who was picked in the first three rounds,
you can turn him into DJ.
You take DJ Moore over Kirk?
Yes.
And CeeDee Lamb.
Yes.
But you also could just sit there and be perfectly happy with your Christian Kirk draft pick,
which is probably going to be a very good pick.
Yep.
Clyde Edwards-Elair, sell high or...
Sell high or he'd sigh?
There you go. Say it. I'm going there you go say it i'm gonna make heath say it he did he just sighed
so does that mean that means don't sell high on clyde that's what the side means there's the the the upside potential if clyde is just the lead running back in this offense all season long
is a league winning pick in round seven or eight
what's the downside again uh he could lose his job
yeah he he was not okay the Kansas City running back snap counts in the first three quarters.
Clyde 24, McKinnon 24, Pacheco 4.
So he was not splitting with Pacheco, but Pacheco's a rookie,
and like I always say, takes time.
He was splitting, though, with McKinnon.
The fact that he caught two touchdowns is... Which we knew going into the year.
I thought would be reason to sell high on Clyde Edwards-Elair,
but there will be games where he has rushing touchdowns.
Also, I don't think,
and I should just run the poll with all four of them now, I guess,
I don't think anybody thinks that Clyde is a top 15 running back.
What, am I going to sell high as a high-end flex?
Right.
No.
Unless you come across a desperate fantasy manager
who just lost Elijah Mitchell
or is scared of Najee Harris or Alvin Kamara, you come across a desperate fantasy manager who just lost Elijah Mitchell or
is scared of Najee Harris or Alvin Camara,
and they want to have that extra insurance.
And maybe they took some extra receivers and you drafted glide in round six,
seven,
eight.
So you can afford to part ways with them for somebody who was drafted
significantly higher.
That's not a bad idea.
This isn't sell to get the name of the segment.
Isn't sell to get rid of them because you don't think they're any good or Heath sigh. It's sell high. Right. That's not a bad idea. This isn't sell to get... The name of the segment isn't sell to get rid of them
because you don't think they're any good or Heath's eye.
It's sell high.
Right. Exactly.
All right, Dave, there's a segment on this show today.
We're going to end with Fantasy Cops,
but first we're having a team name contest.
Heath and I share a team.
We need a team name.
It's our 10-team Superflex League.
We have Trey Lance, Justin Fields, and Tua Tungavailoa.
We have Jonathan Taylor.
We have Cooper Cupp.
We have two Jets on our team, Elijah Moore and Michael Carter.
Mike Williams is on the team.
So we both were – I said to Heath,
let's try to come up with a team name for our team,
and whoever has the better one, it sticks.
I did not come up with anything good, Heath.
I don't know about you. I couldn't come up with it sticks i did not come up with anything good heath i don't know about you i couldn't come up with anything i did not come up with anything good
enough because we have a collection of names um that we're should just produce fantasy team names
so that the best that i have so far and we can workshop this adam you think you can help me make
it better um but the best we have you didn't mention we also have J.K. Dobbins.
I don't know if you did or not. I did not mention that, no.
And we have Trey Lance, Justin Fields,
and Tua as our three quarterbacks.
Two of my favorite breakout QBs, J.K.
Okay, it's a little wordy.
I came up, since we have Tua and we have Cup,
Tua, one Cup? Tua and we have Cup, Tua one cup?
Tua guys one cup.
Tua guys one cup. I also have two Jets one cup because we have two Jets and Cooper Cup.
And then
since we have Lance and Fields, I have
Lance Field Classification,
which, as we all know, is
a serological method
for classifying streptococci into one of 20 groups.
Can we trade for Rashad Penny and go with Penny and the Jets?
Oh, that'd be bad.
Based on the presence of polysaccharide and taecoic acid antigens in the bacterial cell wall.
So if you want to get scientific with strep throat, we could do Lansfield classification.
Otherwise, I think two guys, one cup is not bad.
Thank you.
So Dave won the contest?
What's my prize?
Please email us or send tweets at Adam Azer with better.
Yeah.
I had another one.
Fields to a tray, like farm to table, fields to a tray.
I mean, that is very heathy.
It's really bad, but also funny.
I think you should call it running past Jamie's house every morning.
I did run this morning.
I didn't run past Jamie's house, but I went 2.7 miles.
2.7 miles.
That could be our team name.
2.7 miles. It was actually miles. That could be our team name. 2.7 miles.
It was actually 2.69.
Oh, okay. Even better.
All right.
So that was a team name
contest where everybody loses.
Let's do some fantasy
cops here. This is from Miles.
In a 12-team PPR
league,
we have some serious yet creative shenanigans that happened.
A member in my league created screenshots that looked like they were taken from ESPN
that stated Austin Eckler would be out with a hamstring injury for four weeks.
He stated that ESPN Plus got injuries earlier than everyone else.
The manager was offering to trade Bateman and Hunt for Eckler and Tony.
And due to the worries of the supposed injury,
the other manager accepted the trade and gave up Eckler and Tony for Bateman and Hunt.
Should this be allowed to stand,
or should the manager learn his lesson for being an idiot?
And I saw the screenshots.
He created these screenshots that said Austin Eckler was going to miss four weeks, basically.
How nefarious.
How evil.
This is so easy.
I love it.
And I wish I had thought of it.
Obviously the trade needs to be overturned.
Like that is so dirty.
You cannot do that.
But it is really funny.
But the funnier part of this is, did Bateman and kareem hunt quadruple austin eckler and carderius tony
in week one and fantasy points or even more maybe yeah quite possible i'm at a great weeks
like that's justice it is but i'd still want the trade overturn justice would be have you ever been
offered money to to tweet something false so that somebody in some fantasy league uses our tweet
to try and take advantage of another?
No, but I would be willing.
DMs are open.
Yeah, I haven't been paid enough or offered enough pizza
to do such a thing.
It would take a lot.
All right, let's do one more here from Nate in California.
Dear Fantasy Cops, I joined a league, and as I was reviewing the settings,
I realized that it allowed bench players to be dropped after the game has been played.
I saw this as an opportunity to use my last bench spot to take some flyers on players using that bench spot.
So I dropped Jeff Wilson for Isaiah McKenzie on Thursday night,
and then I dropped McKenzie for Sammy Watkins, and then I dropped Watkins for Rashad White. When I dropped Watkins,
another manager noticed this and made a complaint in the league chat. I pointed out the setting and
said any manager could do the same thing as he should as well. While we were discussing this,
the commissioner changed the setting. If that's the way it's supposed to be, I guess it's better
late than never. Not a big deal. But on Monday night at 9 p.m. before waivers are about to run, the commissioner just force
dropped Rashad White from my team. I think this is a huge overstep. The commissioner is a friend
that I know he also listens to your show. Please regulate. I think I should either get Jeff Wilson
back since I might not have dropped him if the setting was correct in the first place,
or at the very least be able to keep Rashad White. What do you guys think? I agree. I think
you either get to keep White because the rules were it was fair game to do when you made the move
and if it wasn't fair game and it was an oversight from the commissioner then the commissioner
deserves a smack across the face and he needs to put Jeff Wilson back on your team
now. Rashad White should back on your team now.
Rashad White should be on your team.
The commissioner should be penalized and mocked.
You don't...
Hey, wait, wait, wait.
He set the settings up correct.
He listens to the show.
The commissioner listens to the show.
What's his name? Do we know his name?
This is not one of those where you can just kick him out of the league
with no consequence here.
He's listening right now.
Kamish.
Yeah.
You do not have the authority to correct your mistake in this way.
Okay.
Don't be a dope, Bill.
Okay.
All right.
That's it.
We had one more fantasy cop, didn't we?
Go ahead.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go, go, go.
I'm in a 12-team league where the commissioner is just busier than everybody else.
So right before waivers run, he always drops the guy he's going to drop so that he doesn't have to put that drop guy every time that he goes to add a waiver claim. And then he just puts in a claim for everybody he wants to add.
What happens when he does that is that often he will pick up four or five more players than are eligible to be on his roster,
preventing other people from picking them up with $0 bids.
This morning, I took screenshots and sent them to the judge, Adam Azer,
showing that this commissioner had four quarterbacks on his roster.
He picked up three.
He has four more players, I believe, on his roster that are currently legal.
And now when he drops those players, they're going to go back on
waivers for two more days.
Sounds legal to me.
If I could ask you a question,
Council, none of this would have
happened if said Commissioner hadn't
dropped the original player
and made single add drops
with that player each time, right?
Correct. You would have just gotten one guy.
Yeah, what do you have to say for yourself, Kamesh?
I think if it's allowed by the website,
then it's certainly fair game that everybody in the league
could also take advantage of it.
Oh, that's a terrible idea.
He's laughing.
All right, you're out, buddy.
No, hold on.
Now I've got to figure out how to fix that.
I will ask about how I fix that.
And the problem is when you have IR spots,
it allows you to roster extra players even if they're not IR eligible.
So that's what happened.
I'm thinking that Dave didn't go over his roster maximum because of the IR spots,
so he was able to pick up all those players.
No, no, no.
I'm over the roster maximum.
He's way over.
Oh.
I'm over by at least one.
Yeah, but I think because of the IR spots,
you're allowed to pick them up in the first place.
And then it says your roster's illegal.
That's tough.
It is shady.
You could just put them back on waivers
without the two-day thing, though.
Just leave Tyler Johnson on your roster
and have to hit the button every time
like all the rest of us do. He's right. He's right. All right to hit the button every time like all the rest of us.
He's right.
He's right.
All right.
That's it for the show.
That I disagree with.
I think I'm allowed to cut players whenever I want.
He's solving the problem here.
Anyway, thank you all.
I disagree.
That's not a problem that needs to be solved.
Oh, I'm the boss here.
That problem definitely needs to be solved.
Really?
Would you like to be the commissioner of the league moving forward?
I did not consider that. And no, I would not. Thank you to Dave.
Okay, then. You're not the boss. We will
talk to you all tomorrow on
Fantasy Football Today.