Fantasy Football Today - Trade Talk, Fill in the Blank, DEN-NYJ (09/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 30, 2020

A lot of trade talk throughout today's show. Let's get started with a big trade Dave made and the reality of your FAB bids (4:00). You're probably going to spend more FAB than we recommend, but that's... not necessarily a bad thing. Then Dave and Heath give their favorite buy low (9:15) and sell high (13:40) guys. It's time for Deshaun Watson to get going, but what about Zach Ertz? ... We react to the COVID news (18:30) and tell you what Fantasy commissioners and managers need to know. And we've got a lot of injury updates plus some interesting stats (24:55) that could impact your Fantasy teams. Are we concerned about the lack of catches for Dalvin Cook and Nick Chubb? What are we learning about the Bengals offense and the Bills offense? What are we learning about the types of routes that D.J. Moore, Michael Gallup, and Julian Edelman are running? ... DEN-NYJ preview (35:40) because we have to! There are actually a few decent starting options in this game. Then we'll give you even more trade candidates (44:00) before we bring on special guest Nick Fox for some Fill in the Blank (50:50) and some Apple Podcast questions (1:00:00) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Listen to the brand new Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-in-5/id1528634304 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:59 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. On his way to the end zone. I'll tell you what, that was a spectacular play. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. What a play. Off to the races.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. Welcome to the Wednesday show, the most fun show of the week. Buy low, sell high. Got some fun stats for you to think about. A-dot and things of those nature. And, you know, more conventional stats as well.
Starting point is 00:01:37 We also have a special guest joining us today. I'll tell you about that in a moment. I've got a note about Fab, and of course, we've got this COVID news to talk about. Adam Azer, Dave Richard, Heath Cummings here. Okay. Dave, Dave,
Starting point is 00:01:49 I think wants to say something. He wants to address the audience about something that happened last night. Well, look, we're recording this Wednesday morning and something big happened Tuesday night. And I think everybody needs to hear it. I made a massive trade.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Ooh. And I want everybody's opinion on, on this blockbuster. I traded away. Grade massive trade. Oh. And I want everybody's opinion on this blockbuster. I traded away. Grade my trade. I'm giving myself an A+, because why else would I have made the trade if I wasn't doing that? You certainly wouldn't be bringing it up on the podcast if it wasn't a good trade. Well, listen, if it was an interesting trade, I would bring it up. If it was a lopsided trade where I traded away Alvin Kamara for joe mixon and justin jefferson here
Starting point is 00:02:25 i wouldn't i wouldn't tell my kids all right here we go uh matt ryan mike davis cam acres kareem hunt this is in a tiered ppr league where running backs get points per reception starting with their third catch oh you got to say the names again. I've already lost it. I got it. Akers, Hunt, Mike Davis, and Matt Ryan. Three running backs plus Matt Ryan. The other side of the trade, Kyler Murray, Jonathan Taylor, James White. Obviously, the
Starting point is 00:02:55 Kyler side. What is this, a joke? It's the Kyler side. Heath likes Kareem Hunt a lot. Who was the other running back besides Akers and Hunt? Mike Davis. Hmm. I mean, it's not as bad as I made it out to be, but I like me.
Starting point is 00:03:12 That's not an A. That's an A-zer. What do you mean? For the Kyler? It's an A-zer trade. The Kyler side gets a gets an a minus well you got like a top five to six like difference maker at quarterback you got a number one running back and i don't remember what the third piece was but james white james white wait wait was james white the number one running back or jonathan for like a very highend number two running back,
Starting point is 00:03:45 a fine low-end number one quarterback, and a bunch of replacement parts. Calling Matt Ryan a low-end number one quarterback, though, that might be a little severe. I agree. He wasn't even that last week. I don't know if he will be this week. If he loses Julio Jones and Russell Gage every week, then sure.
Starting point is 00:04:06 It's just, no, it's just that the game has changed so much. But the players are the same. Sorry, that's from a movie. You need to average 30 points a game if you want to be a top five quarterback. As of now, you do. I'm not sure it's going to stay that way. You got to go a little lower than that.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Not 30. All right, but he's low at number one implies he's like 12th or 10th. I don't know. He's a little better than that, isn't he? If he's got Julio, then sure. Dave, good trade. It would help if he had a pass-catching running back. The number five quarterback in CBS has scored 91 fantasy points so far.
Starting point is 00:04:41 The 30 points a game was not. No, I know, but do you think that's going to keep up? I'm just thinking historically, usually there's one or two quarterbacks that average close to 30 points per game, if not over it. Yeah, I mean, don't you think that that's going to normalize a little bit?
Starting point is 00:04:54 Because right now, Russell Wilson's on pace for 75 touchdown passes. He probably won't do that. Yeah, probably not. All right, good job, Dave. Way to go. Here's a quick note about FAB. Every week, we tell you, you should spend this on Fab.
Starting point is 00:05:08 And every week Fab runs and people in most of my leagues end up spending more than what we recommend. So the only thing I'd say is take our recommendation with a grain of salt. We will give you a, oh, he's an 8%, like Justin Jefferson, 8% or whatever. As kind of how we're seeing that player, you adjust based on your record, your team needs, how much fab you have left. But that's why people say talk more about fab. In the preseason, they say talk more about salary cap leagues or what we used to call auction leagues.
Starting point is 00:05:40 They're just all so different. I find that to be one of the more difficult parts of this job when you talk about free agent budgets and salary cap leaks and stuff like that. So with Fab, it's like everybody, if you really want a player, you have to go higher than what we say is basically what I would tell you.
Starting point is 00:05:58 We're just giving guidelines and you have to adjust. I like to think of it as we're giving what we would bid. But I even think it's a little insincere because we do that show, for me anyway, I think for most of us, we do it Tuesday morning.
Starting point is 00:06:13 So we do that show before we do our bids. And then I find myself personally going in and putting more money. Stop lying to our listeners. I'm not doing it on purpose. I don't think Hunter Renfro is someone that you should have spent $6 or $8 of your budget, 8% of your budget on. But I personally really could use a fill-in PPR wide receiver in a couple of my leagues, and I was aggressive with Hunter Renfro.
Starting point is 00:06:36 I spent $6 to $8 on him in two leagues. And I don't know that that was a great idea in general, but I needed it for me. I had a lot of fab left. I didn't spend much yet so i i don't know i don't you know it just feels like you should spend a little more than what we say if you really want the player and don't feel bad about it that's all do as i say not as i do do as i do not as i say i guess is what it would be right i don't know like how many players have gone through fab so far this season that you're sitting here on Wednesday morning of week four
Starting point is 00:07:09 and really regretting that you didn't bid enough to get them? Mike Davis, certainly. Yeah. So far. I don't know if Noah Fant was a free agent. Well, I mean, just look at the Benny Snell case. Hold on, hold on. Go back to Benny Snell after week one, where we talked about, I want to say we talked about maybe 15% max was as
Starting point is 00:07:31 high as we were going to go. Maybe it was even lower than that because we weren't a hundred percent sure how long he was going to be the guy if James Conner was going to be out and people were fabbing him up like crazy. And there's, I'm glad if people listen to us on Benny Snell and a bunch of other people, they're happy that they lost those bids. They're happy that they bid 15% and didn't get Benny Snell. Now, I went and looked at one of the leagues that we're all in, and Justin Jefferson went for 17% of fab. It's about double, a little less less of what we were willing to go for them and time will tell if that ends up being a great buy or a terrible buy and here's the reality of the situation how many players per season come off the waiver wire and make an impactful
Starting point is 00:08:17 difference in a in a fantasy league not just for your team but just in general fantasy football maybe heath you've got a number that you could is it 20 is it 30 is it less than 20 how many players are fab ads during the season that end up being starters for your fantasy team for more than a week dave for more than a week 10 to 15 literally blindfold us and point us to the nearest dartboard we have no idea at all we're trying to pull a number out of somewhere and just throw it against the wall is the let's go crazy is the number 100 no way right no is the number 50 probably not is the number 25 are there 25 players to come off the waiver wire in a given season?
Starting point is 00:09:07 I'm not asking you to name the 25 players from last year, but how many players this year have come off the waiver wire? It's been three weeks. How many players have come off the waiver wire? That was how I started this discussion, by asking that. Yeah, I'm probably going to drop Hunter Renfro in two
Starting point is 00:09:23 weeks. That's my point. But my point is I need to go out and get a win. And I like him this week. So maybe I'm probably going to drop Hunter Renfro in two weeks. That's my point. But my point is I need to go out and get a win. And I like him this week. So maybe I'm going to be wrong about him. That's fine. But I like him this week. And I spent $6 to try to win a league. I spent $6 last week on the Colts DST.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Would we ever say spend 6% of your budget on a DST? It was the best move I made. So I think you can be more aggressive than what we tell you. It's whatever. This conversation didn't need to go on that long. Let's do some buy low and some sell high. Special guest coming on the show later today is Nick Fox. Nick Fox generously donated to our St. Jude Draftathon,
Starting point is 00:10:00 and he donated for a spot guest appearance on a podcast. So he's coming on today to do a little fill in the blank and read your Apple podcast questions. He plays in 10 leagues. He's in the FFT Open, which we haven't talked about. The FFT Open, we'll talk about it with Nick a little bit later. Casey Simons, one of our listeners, started the FFT Open. There are, I don't know, about 200 listeners in that contest,
Starting point is 00:10:23 and that's pretty awesome. All right, who's your favorite buy low?. And that's pretty awesome. All right. Who's your favorite buy low? Heath, who's your favorite buy low right now? Man, I got the free space. Thank you for coming to me first. Deshaun Watson is not just my favorite buy low, but I feel like the show's favorite buy low,
Starting point is 00:10:37 maybe the industry's favorite buy low, which makes it more difficult for you to buy low on him. Except as we talked about yesterday on fft on cbs sports hq most leagues are not like our leagues so you probably do have an opportunity to buy low on deshaun watson it's been a very slow start for him against very very difficult opponents and now things get a lot better i still believe in the deshaun watson we've seen the past two and a half years i think he has enough weapons with Will Fuller and Brandon Cooks and Jordan Aikens emerging and David Johnson averaging 10 yards per reception.
Starting point is 00:11:12 I expect Deshaun Watson to be a top six or seven quarterback for the rest of the season. I feel like we could say the same for everybody in Houston. Every time that gets brought up, I say the same thing, though. What about Brandon Cooks? Do you feel that way about Brandon Cooks? First of all, I've seen people drop Brandon Cooks. If I'm
Starting point is 00:11:33 trading specifically for Brandon Cooks, it better be part of a package deal or I'm giving up a bench player for him. If I've got two tight ends and my second tight end is... Well, you've got three tight ends in one second tight end is well, you've got three tight ends in one league and you just put them all in the trade block and you're asking for
Starting point is 00:11:49 running backs, but let's just assume in that league you have great running backs like you do in most other leagues and your receivers are crap and you have Dalton Schultz, Noah Fant and Zach Ertz. Would you give up Dalton Schultz for Brandon Cooks? I think I would.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I would. If I needed a receiver, especially if it's PPR, I would make that move. So I'm talking about trading a tight end I picked up off the waiver wire and spent very little fab on to go and get Brandon Cooks. He is down to 77% rostered. So nearly a quarter of leagues Brandon Cooks is available, and maybe the 10-team leagues he doesn't need 77% rostered. So nearly a quarter of leagues, Brandon and cooks is available and maybe the 10 team leagues. He doesn't need to be rostered,
Starting point is 00:12:28 but go pick them up in your 12 team league. All right, Dave, who's your favorite by low is Zachary. It's a by low. Jamie made the case on HQ yesterday that he wasn't because everybody knows that he's going to be awesome now, just because Philadelphia doesn't have anybody else to their number one
Starting point is 00:12:43 tight end. Okay. So if you have that outlook on them, then yeah, of course, you're going to say that Ertz is an obvious by-low. But I'm of the belief that not everybody is on top of the Philadelphia Eagles news and that people who drafted Zach Ertz in rounds three through maybe five aren't happy with him, and they could have had another tight end already. And you could try and get Zachary, even if you know that he's going to end up
Starting point is 00:13:08 getting more target share over the next month, maybe the rest of the season, you still could probably finagle a deal. I think you're right on. I'll tell you why. Because people are so low on Carson Wentz right now, and they're so low on the Eagles offensive line, and they should be,
Starting point is 00:13:27 but they just probably don't want anything to do with the Eagles except for Miles Sanders. So, Zach Ertz... Why would you be okay with being with Miles Sanders but not the rest of the offense? Just because he's going to get so many touches. Just because he's going to get so many touches. But, no, I'm just saying what I'm seeing
Starting point is 00:13:44 is just so much negative Eagles feedback and they deserve it. But I think you're right. And Earth's had 10 targets last week and he should get a lot of targets going forward. Could I bring up another guy who might be a buy low? Yeah. Lamar Jackson. Oh, that's, I was going to say that like, yeah, a hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:14:04 I've seen a lot of... Just based on the emails, tweets, and stuff, a lot of, should I trade this guy for Lamar Jackson? Yes, you should. Yes. We're not really worried about him, are we? I don't think so. His offensive line did not play great against Kansas City.
Starting point is 00:14:22 And the Chiefs laid out a blueprint about how to kind of pin him in. And his pass catchers have been letting him down the last couple of weeks. I think they can get that right. And I think he'll eventually start rushing for touchdowns again. Okay. You'd rather have rest of season
Starting point is 00:14:38 Lamar Jackson over Deshaun Watson, right? Yes. Correct. Okay. Who are your favorite sell high guys, Heath? The fill-in running backs almost all of them mike davis yeah uh rex burkhead uh jeff wilson um i i don't even know for sure that burkhead and wilson are going to last week four. But right now it kind of looks like they are. And so like maybe somebody would like is really desperate running back and has Noah Fant and Dalton Schultz and Zach Ertz. And you were a dummy and drafted Hayden Hurst at tight end because you thought he was going to be good.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And you try to trade a couple of those guys for a good tight end. Yeah, I think Mike Davis is a great, it depends how much you need him. But if you're not starting Mike Davis and you have him, he's got value. It's not like you're ripping someone off here. Yep. But you're giving him a short-term fix. You're giving him or her a short-term fix, and you can get a long-term play industry analyst league, people who you've heard of that write about fantasy football just like us, guys that we had on our draft-a-thon earlier this year. I couldn't get Robbie Anderson for Rex Burkhead. Like, I'm trying to give away Rex Burkhead
Starting point is 00:15:57 because I've got great depth at running back. Surprise, surprise. And I can't even get Robbie Anderson straight up for sexy rexy so i don't think people are very excited about burkhead but there's definitely appeal for mike davis he's got some value all right dave give me a sell high i think melvin gordon is a great sell high even going into this matchup against jets which he should be a top 10 running back coming out of i know that philip l Phillip Lindsay is coming back soon. I know that this Broncos offensive line is getting worse.
Starting point is 00:16:29 They're onto their third quarterback of the season, and Melvin Gordon sometimes gets beat up. So if you can turn Melvin Gordon into, you might be able to turn Melvin Gordon into Kenyon Drake right now. And if you can do that, you're turning water into wine. I do not see Melvin Gordon. He'll be great in week four. Not so sure he's going to have
Starting point is 00:16:50 many great games after week four. I'm just hoping he'll be great in week four. So we actually are going to preview that game a little bit later. The worst game of the year. And we will discuss it. Don't we say that about every Jets game, though?
Starting point is 00:17:07 Brett Rippin is starting, Dave. I've got some fun. Do you think there will be 600 total yards in that game? And by the way, week three, the Jets and the Broncos combined for like 560 or something total yards in their respective games. Do you think we'll have 600
Starting point is 00:17:23 total stinking yards in this Thursday night game? you think we'll have 600 total stinking yards in this Thursday night game? I think there's a lot of bad defense in this game, and no, I don't think there will be 600 yards. I kind of think there will be. The Jets might... It sounds like maybe getting Jamison Crowder back. That Broncos secondary is not very good right now.
Starting point is 00:17:43 The Jets secondary is absolutely terrible. That's another one of my favorite by-laws right now is Jerry Judy. And I think you might need to do it before Thursday night. Even with Brett Rippin playing, the fact that as a rookie, he's earning eight targets a game in his first three games, he could explode at any moment. I don't think his drops are going to last all year. All right. So everyone, stop what you're doing right
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Starting point is 00:19:45 and other members of their organization testing positive. They're shutting down their facilities until Saturday. They're scheduled to play the Steelers on Sunday. The game could be moved to Monday or to another week later in the season, maybe week seven or eight. You're talking about starting defensive tackle or nose tackle Daquan Jones
Starting point is 00:20:02 and a long snapper, Bo Brinkley, and a practice squad tight end, Tommy Hudson. So they're facing the Steelers this week. Meanwhile, the Titans faced the Vikings last week, and the Vikings are being cautious right now. They're closing their facilities. By the time this show is over, by the time you hear it, you might have more information on the Vikings situation.
Starting point is 00:20:22 It's possible the Vikings, Texans, but that's less possible. It's possible that these two games could get moved in some capacity. So I guess generally speaking, what do fantasy managers need to know right now? I think the next two mornings are key. From what I understand, everyone retested again yesterday.
Starting point is 00:20:39 They're getting these tests back within 24 hours. And again, this is all from what I understand. Something could be totally erroneous. But we saw this with baseball. And I think the Cardinals were the best example. Not testing positive yesterday after a game on Sunday doesn't really tell us very much yet. We've got really 48 to 72 hours of incubation period
Starting point is 00:21:03 where you could test, say that you don't have it, and then you'll find out a couple of days later you actually did. So the NFL, if there's not any more positive tests, is very much on the, we want to play these games on time track right now. Mike Tomlin said they've been told prepare as if everything's going to go ahead as scheduled, but they don't really have the final say in this. The final say is going to come back to what these tests say. They can't play the game on time. If we continue to get more and more positives as the week goes on. And I,
Starting point is 00:21:32 you know, I was thinking about this, like, let's say the game gets postponed. You know, do you, do you allow a fantasy manager to put say Derek Henry in an IR spot? But I don't think so because this this would essentially be their bye week,
Starting point is 00:21:45 wouldn't it? It depends on if this goes down as their bye week. Let's just say that the only game that needs to be rescheduled is the Steelers and the Titans. There's a very easy way where it only affects three teams to reschedule that game for later in the year.
Starting point is 00:22:03 And then the Steelers and the Titans would have their bye in week four. If the NFL lays it out that way, and this is the de facto buy week for those teams, then I guess not. But if it's a postponed game that, you know, they make it up to be determined, then yeah, I think you absolutely create that extra bench depth for those players. It's the right thing to do.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Whether you can put them on your IR spot or not, because they're not playing, you really shouldn't punish a league manager because a player either gets COVID or is on a team that can't play because of COVID. Okay. So we'll keep everybody posted on that and talk with your commissioner
Starting point is 00:22:43 and see what your commissioner wants to do. News and notes. So Jamison Crowder is trending in the right direction. Would he be a must start against the Broncos? Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, I mean... In PPR, yes.
Starting point is 00:22:56 He'd be a top 30 wide receiver. Phillip Lindsay was limited in practice, David. The way you were talking about Melvin Gordon sounded like you didn't expect Phillip Lindsay this week. But he might play, and that just means fewer touches way you were talking about Melvin Gordon sounded like you didn't expect Phillip Lindsay this week. But he might play and that just means fewer touches and less playing time for Melvin. Yeah. In week one,
Starting point is 00:23:12 when Lindsay got hurt, he and Gordon had basically the same amount of carries at that point. I think he actually had one more carry than Melvin Gordon. He got hurt late in the second quarter. Denver right tackle Elijah Wilkinson is likely going on IR. Meanwhile, Deontay Johnson's in the concussion protocol, so we'll check on
Starting point is 00:23:28 him throughout the week. Chris Godwin, you're not going to have him this week, and he may miss multiple games. Dallas Goddard's on IR with a small ankle fracture. Deshaun Jackson could play this week. Chris Harris, Chargers quarterback, could miss six weeks with a foot injury. Daryl Henderson is likely to start.
Starting point is 00:23:44 Back to that Broncos game, Brett Rippon is going to start at quarterback. Philadelphia signed Hakeem Butler and is going to use him as a tight end. Anybody see any dynasty value there? Insert Undertaker GIF here. He's rising up out of the casket. Awesome, all right.
Starting point is 00:23:59 I still have two dynasty rosters with Hakeem Butler on it. So, yeah. Are you excited? Dedication. Yeah, I'm excited. He could be the second tight end with Hakeem Butler on it. So, yeah. Okay. Are you excited? Dedication. Yeah, I'm excited. He could be the second tight end to Dallas Goddard next year. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:24:11 I just saw this stat this morning on ESPN. DeMarcus Lawrence, Cowboys defensive end. He doesn't have a sack since week eight of last year. Over 400 snaps without a sack. That's wild. Yeah. And the Texans will not sign Earl Thomas. Do we have any updates on every 49er who's injured?
Starting point is 00:24:31 I have nothing. Nope. Michael Thomas? Nope. Chris Carson? Sounds like it's going to be one to two weeks. Yeah. Without him.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Jared Cook? Nope. Okay. Without him. Jared Cook. Nope. Okay. I like how we used to do, do you expect? I enjoy, do we have any updates on much, much more. Well, do you expect that I think is more of a Thursday, Friday thing after we get some practice reports.
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Starting point is 00:26:02 Do these stats matter? All right, you hear me talk about running backs and that 50 catch mark typically need about 50 catches to be a top five running back. Nick Chubb and Dalvin Cook. Dalvin Cook has five catches. He did thankfully have five targets in week three as they had the ball a little bit more than they did in the first two weeks. Nick Chubb has three catches on three targets. Cook is third in non-PPR. Chubb is fourth. Cook is fourth in non-PPR.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Chubb is eighth. But when you look at these low catch numbers here, does that make you at all concerned about the fantasy productions for Dalvin Cook or Nick Chubb? I would expect Cook to eventually have a couple of games
Starting point is 00:26:43 where he gets four-plus receptions. That's bound to happen with him. But Chubb. I would expect Cook to eventually have a couple of games where he gets four-plus receptions. That's bound to happen with him. But Chubb, I think we pretty much know now that the one area that we can expect him not to play in is the hurry-up offense for Cleveland. Two-minute drill, unless they're inside the 10, or when they're chasing points late. I think this game is really, really interesting this week for the Browns running backs against
Starting point is 00:27:09 the Cowboys, because I would expect the Cowboys are going to score at will. I expect Cleveland's going to be playing from behind, which in the way we expect things to work would mean a lot more Kareem Hunt than Nick Chubb. The other thing that I found that was interesting, Kareem Hunt currently has more red zone carries than Nick Chubb. The other thing that I found that was interesting, Kareem Hunt currently has more red zone carries than Nick Chubb. Yeah, let me see. Inside the five-yard line, though, Nick Chubb has four carries. Hunt
Starting point is 00:27:34 has two. Now, remember, Nick Chubb had a few of them consecutively. Didn't he get stuffed three times in a row? Yes, but he's also scored more red zone touchdowns than Hunt, even though Hunt has more carries. But Hunt has two catches in the red zone, right? Two touchdown catches.
Starting point is 00:27:50 It's really like, I don't know that we will learn anything. And this situation may be just as simple as just start on both and stop trying to analyze which one's going to be better in which situation. But yes, I do think it hurts Chubb's profile and PPR a little bit. It's weird. Alexander Madison has as many catches as Delvin Cook. Yeah. That might be garbage time.
Starting point is 00:28:12 I'm not sure. But I'm a little bit concerned because we were like, it's weird to say that about Cook after the week he just had. But we were definitely expecting 50 plus catches from Delvin Cook. And that's going to be a hard number to get to now. I'm encouraged that he had five targets in week three, even though he only caught, I think, two of those. Maybe, I don't know, whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:28:34 But I guess I'm just trying to ask, would you try to sell high on, let's say, Nick Chubb? Because Nick Chubb is very uninvolved in the passing game, and is he just going to be like Derrick Henry from last year and score a bunch of touchdowns, or do you think there's an opportunity to sell and when i say sell high i mean you basically ask for anything you want because he's obviously a muster guy so if i could if i could pair nick chubb with a small ish piece of my roster to go get alvin camara or ezekiel elliott i would would i trade him straight up for christ McCaffrey right now? Yes, if I was 3-0 for sure.
Starting point is 00:29:06 If I was 3-0 and I had running back depth, I think I could make the case for it. But if I'm 2-1, 1-2, and my running back depth isn't great, I don't know if I'm doing that. All right, tell me if this matters to you. Cincinnati has run the second most plays in the NFL behind Dallas, but they are last in the NFL in yards per play. They had... Yeah, they had a complete overtime
Starting point is 00:29:33 game. They went the distance in overtime. They tied. They've actually lost by three, by five, and they've tied. Well, I think that contributes probably to running the most plays. They played an extra quarter. Okay, so then what's more significant? The fact that, yeah, I think they were up there in plays even going into week two, going into week three.
Starting point is 00:29:50 But how about the fact that they're last in yards per play? They're not good. That should not be a surprise to anyone. And if they can't improve specifically the run game, that's an indictment of the coaching staff, big time. And especially this weekend, you just can't block anybody. Right, that's fine, but you work around that. You find ways to implement your running back
Starting point is 00:30:12 besides doing the exact same thing over and over again for 12 straight quarters. I say all this about how bad they are, and I've got Joe Burrow as a top 10 quarterback. I know, that's what I was going to say. This is a Joe Boo week for them, isn't it? This is definitely a Joe Boo week for them, isn't it? This is definitely a Joe Boo week for their whole offense.
Starting point is 00:30:28 Okay. All right. Next stat. Josh Allen has 16 pass attempts inside the 10-yard line. He had 21 last year. 16 already. Buffalo is seventh in pass attempts, which is crazy. They've been a running team
Starting point is 00:30:44 since 25 years. It's crazy. They've been a running team since like 25 years. You know, it's like crazy. But what does this mean to you? It means to me that I completely misjudged the Bills offense coming into the year. And I was under the impression that they were going to do plenty of running and that they were going to try and take pressure off of Josh Allen and that Allen wouldn't run as much. And the exact opposite has happened. Allen is running plenty. He's playing great.
Starting point is 00:31:07 And they've just decided, you know what? We're going to be a Josh Allen-centric offense. And we're just going to let him make plays. And he's been doing it. He's been great. And I feel bad and dumb about having Allen ranked as low as I did. But I'm enjoying the hell out of watching him play, man. He is fun.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Josh Allen or Deshaun Watson rest of the season? I think you have to say Allen. Yeah, I would say Allen with the caveat that I wouldn't be surprised if I changed my mind in two weeks, but right now there's no way to say anything but Allen. Would you trade Josh Allen for Lamar Jackson? No. I would rather have Lamar Jackson than Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Okay, how about this? Michael Gallup's ADOT, average depth of target. This is going to be high. 16.8. It's been 14.1, 12.2, and 16.8. So his targets are coming farther down the field now than they have ever had. His yards before reception are up from 11.7 to 18.2. That's that by the way, yards,
Starting point is 00:32:14 yards before reception, second in the NFL behind DK Metcalf. So Michael Gout, I don't love this trend here. I mean, I feel like he's turning into this boomer bust wide receiver. I just wonder, and I hate to keep going back to this play, but the sample size is still small enough that I'm going to.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Like, one play on a bogus PI call and his yards before reception might go up two yards. Right. Like, that was a 40-yard pass. And, yeah, he's the downfield threat for this offense. That's what I'm saying. Like he's, is he just going to be, his yards before reception is second in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:32:51 Like it's very high. You know, okay, the broader point I'd like to make and get your opinion on, when you look at ADOT, you look at how far downfield guys are running routes. I feel like you don't want a high ADOT. I mean, a lot of fantasy analysts really like it, but I think it's bad for PPR, unless you're like a really like it, but I think it's bad for PPR unless you're like a really special player.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Um, but I think it's, I think it's really bad for PPR. You know, it leads to fewer catches, higher yards per catch, but I think it, I think it could lead to a lot of boomer bust weeks,
Starting point is 00:33:15 very frustrating stuff. For sure. Like these guys are better in best ball. Um, they're better in non PPR than they are in full PPR, but they're also league winners three or four times a year, like our week winners. And I think Gallup was a week winner last week.
Starting point is 00:33:30 Like you've got two disappointing performances and then a week winner. So what do you think about this weekend? I don't know the game against the Browns, which I don't really know how this one's going to go. It should be interesting. I think the Cowboys probably put up 40. I don't know how they'll do it. They got too many weapons but he'll get some shots yeah they'll take some shots to him you're probably starting him as your third receiver or flex
Starting point is 00:33:52 five of his 11 receptions have gone for at least 19 yards so i think we've got a pretty good idea of how they're using michael gallup and the more you feel confident in the Cowboys being in a shootout, high scoring type of a game, the more you should want to start Gallup. Yeah. So except they've been in three shootouts and he said, well, I don't know if week one was a shootout. Okay. And finally, would you rather have Tyler Boyd or Michael Gallup? I would take the guy with the lower a dot here because i like the target share boyd and ppr for sure non-ppr i think it's a real uh it's a real question all right final thing here on a dot chris towers brought this up on monday robbie anderson and dj moore have like switch roles robbie anderson's a dot average depth of target, 8.5 yards. Very low. He's usually
Starting point is 00:34:46 around 15. Whereas DJ Moore, his ADOT is up from 11.1 last year to 13.5 this year. But we know, we love DJ Moore because Teddy Bridgewater's a conservative quarterback. He throws short a lot. Robbie Anderson is running these very short routes. DJ Moore
Starting point is 00:35:02 is going a little bit deeper downfield. You want to know the truth is that everybody on the Panthers is running these short routes, and there's occasional deep routes for Robbie and DJ. And I spent a little time yesterday watching all of DJ's targets, and he's not separating from man coverage very well. It's like the one little nitpick that I've got on him. And when it comes to contested catches, it's probably truly
Starting point is 00:35:29 a 50-50 type deal with him. And again, this is kind of like what we were saying about the Texans. He's faced the Buccaneers and the Chargers the past two weeks. Very few receivers separate against those defensive backs. That's why they're so good against the pass.
Starting point is 00:35:47 Yeah, so are you thinking buy low on DJ Moore, or are you thinking there are really reasons to be concerned here? I just wanted to... Don't give up too much for him, but you could go after him. Yeah, I still view him as a must-start wide receiver every week. This same thing you're talking about has also happened in new england julian edelman's a dot is over 12 really so far this season mckeel harry is at 6.3 it's edelman's being targeted twice as far downfield as mckeel harry is that weighed by what happened
Starting point is 00:36:22 in seattle well certainly that would be a third of it yeah yeah uh well maybe more than a third That's Nikhil Harry. Is that weighed by what happened in Seattle? Well, certainly. That would be a third of it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, maybe more than a third of it, though, because he probably had a lot more targets in that game than he had in week one. But, yeah, all right. Small sample size, I guess.
Starting point is 00:36:38 You're still taking DJ Moore over Robbie Anderson the rest of the season, right? Yes. Okay. Would you rather have DJ Moore or DK Metccalf in PPR league where Metcalf barely catching it? It's completely dependent on format for me. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:51 So PPR, who are you taking more? And Dave's going to take Metcalf. All right. Um, let's get this crap game out of the way. Denver at the jets. No,
Starting point is 00:37:00 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:37:02 Denver, Denver and the chair. There you go. Basic questions. How many turnovers in this game? Four. Over, under 600 total yards. Over.
Starting point is 00:37:15 We answered that. Under. Well, there you go. Over, under 30 completed passes. And to give you some context, Sam Darnold is at 21. Well, Sam Darnold is at 21, 21, and 17. So he'll hold up his end of the bargain.
Starting point is 00:37:28 Over. 30 completed passes. Okay. You guys, not seeing eye to eye on these stupid props. Jets are 0-3. They've been horrible. Broncos are 0-3. Lost by two to the Titans, five to the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Your last question was the best one. Oh, which player scores the most fantasy points in half PPR? Melvin Gordon. Darnold? Yeah. He's like 16, 17 points, something like that. I'd feel a little bit better about him if he had Crowder. Yeah. Okay. The Titans
Starting point is 00:38:01 or the Broncos, they were okay weeks one and two. Lost some close games. Week three, they got blown out. They didn't have their quarterback. 28-10, they lost against Tampa Bay. So we're not starting the quarterbacks in this game. Let's go right to the running backs. Now the Jets, they were horrible against the 49ers,
Starting point is 00:38:15 but their MO is having a good run defense. And they were really good against the Bills guys. And they were okay against Jonathan Taylor, 13 carries, 59 yards and a touchdown. Is this a good matchup for Melvin Gordon and you know where would where are you ranking him now and where would you rank him if if Philip Lindsay plays
Starting point is 00:38:32 top 10 running back right now top 15 running back even with Lindsay playing yeah I've got him at 15 to 20 right now and 20 to 25 if Lindsey plays. Are you going to start Mike Davis over Melvin Gordon?
Starting point is 00:38:52 Yes. No. You really like Melvin Gordon, huh, Dave? I do. So you don't think the Jets' run defense is good? I think their run defense has been okay, but I still think the Broncos can lean on Gordon, provided that he's the main back for them.
Starting point is 00:39:09 And that the field position will end up being in their favor because the Jets will turn the ball over. And they're not going to lean heavy on Brett Rippon. They're going to lean on Melvin Gordon as much of their offensive line as they possibly can. Yeah, let's hope we get a lot of carries out of him. I'll give you a few more. How about Devin Singletary?
Starting point is 00:39:31 You may not know Zach Moss' status on Thursday, but Devin Singletary at Las Vegas or Melvin Gordon? Melvin. If Zach Moss doesn't practice Thursday, then I would start Singletary. How about... And if Phillip Lindsey plays, I would start Singletary regardless.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Julian Edelman or Melvin Gordon. PPR. Edelman. Gordon. All right. Moving on to the wide receivers. In this game, let's just do both teams here. Let's say Jamison Crowder plays.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Crowder or Judy, who's the best wide receiver? Crowder. Yep. Crowder, you said, would be like about 30th? I know this matchup looks good for Jerry Judy, but Judy hasn't looked good. And this is the third quarterback that he's working with this season. So I feel like I need to see it from Judy before I trust him.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Okay. What about Crowder though? You said he'd be, you guys said he'd be a number three guy, right? Yes. Yeah. Top 30.
Starting point is 00:40:34 Uh, what did I do now? You guys are laughing. I was like, yeah, Crowder's and Crowder. And you said you don't like Jerry Judy. No,
Starting point is 00:40:39 I know because I was thinking about Crowder versus Judy. Oh, okay. Okay. I gotcha. How about Odell Beckham or Jameson Crowder? I'm doing a completely different podcast in my head right now, Adam. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Hey, how is it? Is it good? It's so much worse than what we're doing. It's so bad. Odell Beckham or Crowder? Odell Beckham or Crowder? Beckham. Crowder.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Yeah. I don't have much confidence in Odell Beckham. Well, they're going to have to throw the ball in this game. Cowboys are going to score. Maybe. Even in non-PPR, Heath? In non-PPR, I might go Beckham. I've got Beckham right around 30, so
Starting point is 00:41:17 I haven't projected Crowder, but it'd be close. Oh, I got a good one. PPR league. Joe Mixon or Jamison Crowder? Mixon. I'm giving Mixon the benefit of the doubt for one more week. I would say probably Mixon.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Yeah. Now, I do love the specific matchup for Crowder because they're starting a rookie in the slot in Denver and he's allowed like an 89% catch rate and a quarterback rating of over 130. He doesn't seem to be really good at covering slot receivers. So Crowder could end up doing well. I'm starting him in my one league that I have him in.
Starting point is 00:41:56 I'm excited. If he plays. If he plays. So if anybody cares a reference, I'd start him. I'm starting him over Darius Slayton. This is a chance for him to get back. We got a really interesting trade in that two quarterback lead. I've got a big lead on you.
Starting point is 00:42:12 But Jameson Crowder gets to try to make it up now. I have a feeling I'm going to win that trade. Buy Mitchell Trubisky for your Jameson Crowder. Yeah, so any other wide receivers in this game? Berrios has been good. KJ Hamler had seven targets. Tim Patrick caught a touchdown last week. Anyone else?
Starting point is 00:42:29 I think Berrios is in play if Crowder does not play. Do you like or love Noah Fantz this week? Gotta love him. Yeah. Okay. Just because of the quarterback. I mean, he got 10 targets last week and and only had five catches for 46 yards the jets have given up three touchdowns
Starting point is 00:42:53 to tight ends in their last two games jordan reed had two mo alley cox had one they both had 50 yards so the matchup is perfectly fine i mean let's not poo-poo five catches for 46 yards we were just talking about gronk's breakout game, which wasn't much different. But it was on 10 targets. It's not a great game for 10 targets. Right? Right. It's bad efficiency-wise, but fantasy-wise, I don't
Starting point is 00:43:15 get any rates in my fantasy points. Sure. Jonu Smith or Noah Fant? Fant. Jonu. Are we going? Fant. Jonu. Hunter Henry. Are we going to have any clarification on the Titans' status? Oh, that's true.
Starting point is 00:43:29 That's a good point. By Thursday night. Okay. Hunter Henry or Noah Fant? Fant. Fant. Okay. And is there anything I'm missing?
Starting point is 00:43:39 Frank Gore, then the DSTs. Talk about them. I did try on my podcast that's in my head to make a case for Frank Gore. Short week, offensive lines, defensive line for Denver is in bad shape. I can't do it. I can't do it. I can't recommend
Starting point is 00:43:59 Frank Gore. I might do try to make a trade offer for Le'Veon Bill. Reports have surfaced that if the Jets lose this game, some things in New York might be changing. And Le'Veon Bell's hamstring might feel better after those things change. He's
Starting point is 00:44:15 on IR, so he can come back next week. Correct. But also, yes, both defenses. I'm starting them both. Who do you like better? Broncos. I'm only starting the Broncos, but they're low end. They are toward the bottom of the top 12.
Starting point is 00:44:32 By the way, Chris Herndon... Stinks? Well, look, he might, but he has had... So far, he has faced three teams. Two of them are giving up the fewest fantasy points to tight ends. And the other is Buffalo who probably would be right there if not for the one game where their two starting linebackers were out.
Starting point is 00:44:52 It's possible when we see the season play out that he's just faced three teams that are great against tight ends. Um, so it's just something to just something to keep in mind. If he has a good game, maybe you can buy into it a little bit more on, on waivers next week. All right. Nick Fox
Starting point is 00:45:05 is going to join us in a bit. We're going to do some fill in the blank. Did you guys want to give any more buy low or sell highs? James Conner is on your team. Shop him around and see what you can get. Not saying absolutely get rid of him, but if you can turn it almost the same thing
Starting point is 00:45:23 that we were talking about with was it Chubb earlier where you're just going to move up and upgrade to like one of the elite running backs. And if you can do that with Connor, I think that would be, I think the timing is great on that. And if you can't trade Connor, just get Benny Snell, please back up Connor with Snell
Starting point is 00:45:40 Snell sitting the waiver wire in a bunch of leagues now. Any other names? I'll throw, I'm going to throw out Evan In Ingram. It's hard to get. I really think it's difficult to find a tight end on the waiver wire right now. Dalton Schultz is the only one that I'm excited about. He was 60% rostered before yesterday. You're buying low on Ingram. I'm buying low on Ingram thinking he'll be usable. He'll be like a top 10 tight end. I don't think he's going to be great, but he's getting a lot of targets. His stats
Starting point is 00:46:08 are basically the same as Logan Thomas's, and he's better than Logan Thomas. I don't know if he is. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure he is. I don't know if his quarterback is better than Logan Thomas's quarterback. I also think he is, but it's a bad situation, no doubt. I'm no longer
Starting point is 00:46:24 expecting Evan Ingram to be... Well, first of all, I wasn't. I don't have any shares, maybe one. One team I share with Heath. I just think that he's going to be usable. So if you're sitting there like, gosh, I have Mo Alley-Cox, I'd rather have Evan Ingram. I would too.
Starting point is 00:46:40 He'll be okay. Go see if you can move Moelle Cox for Evan Ingram. Dude, Moelle Cox, I was looking at the waiver reports. Moelle Cox in our leagues got a lot of love. Yeah. I think it might be misplaced. We'll see how that goes. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:56 So that was one guy, if you're desperate, a tight end. And I think Mark Andrews is a much higher end buy low. I think we agree on that, right? Yeah, buying tight ends. Look, people, a lot of fantasy managers have multiple tight ends on their roster. Dave's got three in one of our leagues. Yeah, that's why it's hard to find them on waivers.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Thanks, Dave. So you got to go the trade route. Let's make a trade. Let's make a deal. I've got Rick Burkhead and Jeff Wilson and Malcolm Brown, Dave. I've got three running backs for you. You're going to give me all three of them for Dalton Schultz?
Starting point is 00:47:27 It's generous. So anything else? Dave had a lot of names earlier. Oh, Cam Newton sell high? I talked about Cam Newton and Juju as sell high candidates on HQ. And really, Cam was the quarterback. I had to pick a quarterback. And I thought i can make the
Starting point is 00:47:45 case for him as a saw even though he's coming off of a bad game i think he has a good game this week if you're just not in love with cam newton's long-term prospects or if you can upgrade on him you can do it i'm not saying get him off your team the worst is coming for him i don't think that's happening but last week was an example of a game where cam newton didn't have to do much and the patriots were just fine. And they're getting, they're getting healthier running back for sure over the next couple of weeks. So I don't know what that's going to do to Cam's totals overall.
Starting point is 00:48:15 If the Patriots know they can just run, run, run, that could hurt Cam and he's still their best running back at the goal line. Does anybody feel like Deandre swift and cam acres are by low candidates are we just staying the heck 100 yes this was this was the uh this was the the blueprint um they're going to be bad early in the year wait until somebody gets sick of them
Starting point is 00:48:37 and they've been dropped in a few leagues i'd rather just i'd just rather wait till they get dropped and then i'll pick them up but like if Dave could turn even Noah Fant, I would say, into one of those two in that IDP League, I would be thrilled to do that. Oh, man. I'm not giving up Fant for one of those two right now. You're not even starting Fant this week, are you? In the IDP League?
Starting point is 00:49:01 I'm not sure. I probably will. Over Ertz? Yeah. Really? Yeah. in the idp league i'm not sure i probably will over hurts yeah really yeah no offense over zach hurts i can probably start them both i might want to do that all right we are somebody told me once it's starting too tight a tight end in your flex was the stupidest thing you ever heard it'd be with that many players. It's a little bit different. Things have changed, Heath. Shraggy B, we got
Starting point is 00:49:30 Nick coming on or are we just waiting? I got more stuff. Nick will come on in a bit. We can take a break right now. Or we can keep going. I don't care. I got more stuff in the notes. Let's take a break. You sure? I can read the Apple podcast questions. Why don't we do that?
Starting point is 00:49:47 Let's do it. Thumbs up, Shraggy B? If we need to take a break, I can read the Apple podcast questions why don't we do that is that quick thumbs up Shaggy B if we need to take a break I can take a break that's fine you know what I'm going to take charge we're going to take a break we'll be right back on fantasy football today and time for our guest of honor Nick Fox joining us now and as I mentioned Nick very generously donated to St. Jude
Starting point is 00:50:03 to come on our show he's been listening to us and tweeting us, interacting with us for years. Finally get to meet him and talk to him. This is awesome. This is a real pleasure for us, a real honor for us. Nick, first of all, thanks for your generosity and welcome to the show. Hey, Adam, thanks for having me, guys. I've been a big fan of yours for a long time and this is the least I can do. You know, through these trying times, Just all we can do is help.
Starting point is 00:50:26 And you guys do a fantastic job with St. Jude. And it's an honor to be here. Love that mindset. It's an honor to share the podcast Airwaves with you. Thank you for your generosity. Thanks, Dave.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Again, I'm so happy I'm here. That a Notre Dame hat you have on? Yeah, fighting Irish. Let's go. Why don't you just join the ACC already? Like, what the hell? You're so, so high and mighty. Like, come't you just join the ACC already? Like, what the hell? You're so high and mighty. Like, come on.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Just join the conference. Right? You know, it's, you know, with everything going on with the pandemic, it's, you know, the great team, obviously, historical team. And, you know, hopefully they can get back on the field soon. Yeah. All right. So, Nick, you have, you're in 10 leagues.
Starting point is 00:51:02 And one of those leagues is the FFT open. So, so cool. Tell us about this. Yeah. So Casey Simmons, you know, obviously he's, he's a big fan of yours as well on the Facebook group. He, you know, he was trying to get, you know, the fishbowl type of mentality and mantra. So, you know, I was happy to join one of the leagues and I'm sorry to say I'm three, you know, so it's, it's been a great start for me. And you know, he's, he's doing a great, great job. So, you know, I was happy to join one of the leagues and I'm sorry to say I'm three, you know, so it's, it's been a great start for me and, uh, you know, he's, he's doing a great,
Starting point is 00:51:28 great job. So, you know, hats off to Casey as well. Yeah. Casey's crushing it. He sends out an email every week. He's got like a website. He's so organized, very impressed. He put this together in a day or maybe two days. Uh, and we have something like, I don't remember the exact number, but like 200 people in the league. So awesome stuff. Can he commission all of our leagues? He probably would. He's real good at it. All right, we're going to do some fill in the blank
Starting point is 00:51:51 and some Apple podcast questions here with Nick. So we'll let Nick go last. Give him time to think about it and give him time to correct all of your mistakes. So this is from Pat from Ohio. Le'Veon Bell will be a blank running back for the rest of the season and a new blank would be the reason.
Starting point is 00:52:09 So Le'Veon Bell will be a blank running back rest of the season and a new blank would be the reason. What up, Pat? I'm going to say low-end number two running back and new coach will be the reason. Top 25 running back
Starting point is 00:52:23 and new hamstring. I was thinking about new hamstring. I was thinking about saying hamstring. Now, what if we... You're not going to let Nick give the fill in the blank? I'm going to let Nick answer this first. We're only going to do one fill in the blank, so I'm going to reread it just for you, Nick. Le'Veon Bill will be a blank running back
Starting point is 00:52:41 for the rest of the season, and a new team will be the reason. So Le'Veon's traded. I don't know the team. It's not the Jets. What would for the rest of the season and a new team will be the reason so levion's traded i don't know the team it's not the jets what would he be rest of season i i'm with you guys i still think in a ppr league he's a low-end rb2 um obviously you know in new york right now they need a new coach because obviously you know someone doesn't like him right there and right now so i would say low-end rb2 and hopefully even better if he's on a team that will actually utilize him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:07 Like I think about all the injuries that the 49ers are going through and, you know, what if the injury to McKinnon and Mostert are more severe than they're letting on? Or what if Carson was done for the year? Imagine Le'Veon Bell on one of those two teams, especially San Francisco, holy moly. I think he'd be closer to a top 15 running back rest of the year, if not higher. Yeah, I'm with you. Maybe in Pittsburgh, too. Maybe a reunion in Pittsburgh. Who knows?
Starting point is 00:53:32 But it would definitely help his value, no doubt. Yeah, that would be a shock to see. But why not? Let's just keep on dreaming. Let's keep on rolling with it. Look, I think everybody, I don't think the fantasy world dislikes Le'Veon Bell. I think they see him as a good talent, just stuck on a bad team. I think they'd race right back to loving him if he was on a different team.
Starting point is 00:53:52 I'm not sure I agree with that. I'm not sure if you think the fantasy world... In the here and now, I understand that we've got bitter feelings toward him for his holdout back in... No, no, no. I just don't know that he's so good anymore. You know how I felt. He hasn't had a 30-yard run in three years. He hasn't had a 20-yard run.
Starting point is 00:54:10 Well, it's been two full seasons since he's had a 30-yard run. He didn't have a 20-yard run last year. I don't care how bad your offensive line is. The guy is not making any explosive plays anymore. He's pretty advanced in his career. He just might not be that good. So, you know, I'm not sure.
Starting point is 00:54:25 But I hope he gets traded. I'd be more excited if he was on a different team. Yeah, might not be that good. I'm not sure. I hope he gets traded. I'd be more excited if he was on a different team. I would too. From Larry, Joe Mixon will be RB blank rest of the season. 16. 17. He's 17 currently.
Starting point is 00:54:39 I'm with around you guys. I'm saying 15. He's definitely a buy low right now. From River King, the second best wide receiver for the Green Bay Packers rest of season will be blank. Lazard. What's the other choice? Devontae Adams?
Starting point is 00:54:57 MVS. It's Ellen Lazard. Lazard for me as well. MVS is just going to roll coverage, even if Devontae's in. You know, Lazard's a possession receiver and I think he'll be the best. You could say AJ Green.
Starting point is 00:55:12 Maybe. For the Packers? Yeah. We can't make up trades for other players besides Le'Veon Bell? Dave, this podcast that is going on in your mind is really interesting. Trading players all over the place.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Good stuff. Thank you. Frank Gore. AJ Green. Taylor's Story says, I'm not sure what I am doing with blank if there's another letdown next week. Joe Mixon.
Starting point is 00:55:41 It's got to be Joe Mixon. Because I think I know what I'm going to do with A.J. Green. You're going to drop him or trade him? Well, I'm going to trade him to the Packers, apparently. No, I'm going to bench him. I won't be able to trust him on my fantasy team. What about Kenny and Drake? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:00 I love that schedule coming up for him. And I think the workload that he's had has been good. I'm not ready to put him on the Joe Boo list yet. I'll tell you what. I'm not sure what I'm going to do if Darius Slayton has another letdown. I think it might be time to drop him. Could be, yeah. Okay, from VC.
Starting point is 00:56:21 I think DK Metcalf's production is blank sustainable, and I would blank try to sell high on him now. I'll read it again. I think DK Metcalf's production is blank sustainable and I would blank try to sell high on him now. I think DK Metcalf's production is potentially
Starting point is 00:56:42 sustainable, meaning he can do these big plays every week. And I would, I I'm not even going to film that blank. I could, I could try selling high on Metcalf. He's the number six wide receiver in fantasy with 12 catches. I think DK Metcalf's production is not sustainable.
Starting point is 00:57:07 I would probably try to sell high on him now. If you could turn him into Kenny Galladay, would you? You would. Yes. Would you want to turn him into Robert Woods? In PPR, yes. Would you want to turn him into Odell Beckham? No. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Terry McLaurin? No. No. him into odell beckham no no no no terry mclaurin no hmm yeah probably i think pineapple does belong on pizza i don't care what you say oh my god i love that all right nick sorry sorry sorry that was the other podcast nick would you uh would you trade dk metcalf for joe mixon no you know it's always the age-old question what do you have what do you need um in a vacuum Would you trade DK Metcalf for Joe Mixon? No. You know, it's always the age-old question. What do you have? What do you need? In a vacuum, I'd say you could potentially do that.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I'm on a bandwagon of I'm selling Lockett for, you know, I'm selling high on Lockett right now. I think Metcalf's, you know, PPR stats are sustainable for me, and I'm selling high, you know, obviously I'm not there right now. All right, let's do one or two more here from Joseph. Hold on. Nick,
Starting point is 00:58:09 are you selling out on Russell Wilson? Ooh, I'm in a, in a bunch of leagues. I have him as my quarterback. I think this is the year, man. I just think he's going to win MVP and he's going to continue,
Starting point is 00:58:22 you know, with the counting stats. I just think it's his year and everyone else is watching. All right. Adrian Peterson will be, will blank this season for the Lions.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Adrian Peterson will blank this season for the Lions. Play? I don't. Start? Blank this season? It doesn't have to be one word. Am I supposed to use a dirty word here?
Starting point is 00:58:48 I did on the podcast up in my noggin. Lead the running backs. Lead the running backs. And so you can't fill in the blank with that and then also tell me that DeAndre Swift is a bylaw. Sure you can. No, you can't, in the blank with that and then also tell me that DeAndre Swift is a buy low. Sure you can. No, you can't, Heath. Why? I have done that.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Heath is making the case that two Lions running backs will be startable for fans. Oh, yeah. The Lions have not had a one startable running back in like seven years. Now let's get two. Adrian Peterson will be a bi-week replacement running back this season for the Lions. Okay, there you go. That's a good one. Nick, any love for Adrian Peterson will be a bi-week replacement running back this season for the Lions. Okay, there you go.
Starting point is 00:59:26 That's a good one. Nick, any love for Adrian Peterson? I mean, if I had to answer this, I would say he would continue to be the bull cow running back for the Lions. And, you know, last couple of seasons, he's been putting up those rushing yards and stats. So, I think they're going to continue it and Swift,
Starting point is 00:59:41 you know, maybe spell him a little bit. And I think, you know, John J. a little bit. And I think, you know, John Jay Swift is more in next year's, you know, he could be a really good player next year. Finally from Alex Heath Cummings will rank Rodrigo Blankenship in the top blank. But there's two blanks in this. I'm not doing baseball rankings anymore.
Starting point is 01:00:01 Come on, Heath. You're, you're way too low on our regal blanket ship week after week um where do i have him all right let's find out if it's not in the top 10 i have him ninth oh okay good good you've learned your lesson is that uh where does he rank for the year has he done a lot of kicks yeah yes yeah yeah he's he's he's managed to kick well and even well i don't know how well he's he's a couple oh wait wait no those are yeah no he's fifth guys this is solely just a glasses thing right oh he's third you got a problem with people with glasses heath there are three people tied for third, and he's one of them. In what scoring format?
Starting point is 01:00:45 I don't know. One of the leagues I'm looking at. This point per yard? No. Tenth of a point per yard? Dude, who cares? Okay, let's go to our Apple podcast questions. This is a shtick at this point.
Starting point is 01:00:55 Finish the show with these Apple podcast questions. I'm going to let Nick go first on all these. From Shinedog, 12-team PPR, grade the trade. Give Daryl Henderson and Russell Gage for Kenyon Drake and Brandon Cooks. Daryl Henderson and Russell Gage for Kenyon Drake and Brandon Cooks. I kind of... It's whether you believe Cooks can...
Starting point is 01:01:23 You guys have been saying that all the Texans are good by lows right now. I don't think Gage is going to be this productive for the rest of the season. I know he's going through some issues right now. I'm kind of leaning towards a Drake-Cook side and just hoping that both players are, you know, you're buying low and it could help you win, you know, for the rest of the season. So I'll say, I'll say B minus. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. C minus. Oh, you don't like B-. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. C-. Oh, you don't like it then? Oh, no, I'm sorry. I do. Yeah, B-. B-. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:50 So Henderson engaged for Drake and Cooks. Dave Heath, what do you got? I think the Drake side wins. Okay. From Grant Witcher, give up Evan Ingram and David Montgomery. Get back a Coors Light tall can and a high five. Easily A.
Starting point is 01:02:08 That's good. Yeah. David Montgomery also very frustrating. Maybe David Montgomery is a buy low. For sure. Yes. Okay. Ryan from a city northwest of Tampa.
Starting point is 01:02:22 Northwest of Tampa. Gainesville. No. Wait. Isn't Gainesville east of Tampa? Northwest of Tampa. Gainesville. No. Wait. Isn't Gainesville east of Tampa? Oh, northwest. I got my west and east mixed up. Seattle. Northwest of Tampa. Let's go with Memphis, Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Okay, Memphis. Grade the trade. Give up Austin Eckler, Tyler Boyd, and Jonu Smith. Austin Eckler, Tyler Boyd, and Jonu Smith. Austin Eckler, Tyler Boyd, and Jonu Smith. Get back Kenyon Drake, Deontay Johnson, Darius Slayton,
Starting point is 01:02:54 and Nikhil Harry. D. Yeah. Yeah, bad. Well said, Nick. That was a grading on a curve, too, to give him a D. Everybody else flunked the test, so I'm going to give you a D. From Steve, would you accept this trade in PPR?
Starting point is 01:03:15 Give up Josh Jacobs and AJ Green? Get DeAndre Hopkins and Kareem Hunt. Jacobs and AJ Green, get DeAndre Hopkins and Kareem Hunt. Jacobs and A.J. Green get DeAndre Hopkins and Kareem Hunt. I mean, Kareem Hunt seems like he's the talk of the town right now. What's going to happen with the Browns this year? I think you're getting the best player in Hopkins in the deal, so I'd probably say
Starting point is 01:03:37 it's a solid B for me. Hopkins on side is better. Yeah. Dave does not give grades anymore they're demeaning to kids we're just gonna go to the new grading system everybody passes Dave gave a grade I'm telling you which side grades out better on the trade chart
Starting point is 01:03:58 Dave's other podcast in his head is called Dave's grades Dave's trades grade he just grades everything the entire show Dave's other podcast in his head is called Dave's Grades. Dave's Trades Grade. He just grades everything the entire show. D plus. We're looking forward to it. Hey, Nick, thanks for coming on, dude.
Starting point is 01:04:12 It was really great having you on. Guys, again, big fan. I really appreciate this. And hats off to Ben for putting this together. And definitely follow me on Twitter if you guys want. CT underscore Fox, F-O-X. And yeah, thanks thanks a lot it's been a great time thanks nick yeah thank you for your donation absolutely and for being such a dedicated listener we really appreciate it and good luck to you and all 10 of your leagues for dave richard heath cummings and ben trager i'm adam azar talk to
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