Fantasy Football Today - Trade Talk, Hurts Debate, Dynasty Tips, Packers-Cardinals (10/27 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 27, 2021

Kicking it off with our favorite buy low (2:30) and sell high (11:30) guys. Do we still believe in DeVonta Smith? And would we rather have Kyler Murray or Patrick Mahomes rest of season? ... We play "Hey, Real Quick" (16:50) to give some rest of season rankings on Michael Thomas, D.J. Moore, Cordarrelle Patterson and Christian McCaffrey among others. Then we've got your news and notes (20:30) including a somewhat heated debate on Jalen Hurts. Is he good? And should you stash Deshaun Watson (31:00)? ... Previewing Packers-Cardinals (34:05). A lot of WR questions in this game, but also a good discussion on the Cardinals RBs. And we finish with Dynasty trading tips (48:00), more buy low/sell high (54:30), your Apple Podcast questions (1:02:00) and emails at [e-mail] Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Today on the show, which Green Bay wide receivers can you start? We're going to preview this exciting Thursday game, even without Devontae Adams and Alan Lazard. I think the Packers are going to give them a game, and I really can't wait.

So we will do the starts and the sits for Arizona and Green Bay. We'll talk buy low, sell high, as usual, on these Wednesday shows. Take a little bit of a look at schedules. I'm going to ask you guys, can Mike Kosicki, Dalton Schultz, and Marquise Brown in particular, can they keep it going if their teams get healthy and maybe the target share decreases a little bit? But also, we'll hear from you guys and find out your favorite buy lows and sell highs and Halloween candies. Heath, candy corn, yay or nay?

No, no, no. Wasn't there like a candy corn beer or something like that? Did you ever see? I'm sure, I'm certain there was a candy corn beer. Basically, any candy that's ever been made, there has now been a beer made in the flavor of that candy and how do we feel about pumpkin beer mostly um i'm anti pumpkin beer but there is one i believe it's southern tier makes a pump king and it's like an imperial pumpkin and it's it's pretty good but for the most part i'm not a pumpkin beer kind of guy

i do like pumpkin pie oh yeah i could rather have pumpkin beer what's up dave what's up man all this pumpkin pie talk is making me hungry yeah of course i'm i'm hungry the second i wake up uh so today we're gonna do buy low sell high but're going to put a little twist on it. Dave gave me inspiration. We're going to do kind of a let's make a deal twist on buy low, sell high. You guys tell me who you want to buy low and sell high on. I've got eight mystery boxes. You get to choose either keep the player that you want to buy or what's in the box. So that should be fun.

We'll see how it goes. And what'd you say? Sounds complicated. Yeah, very complicated. Why don't we start off with something that's not complicated? Who's your favorite by low favorite by low right now? Dave Richard. Can I name two?

You can. Two I gave on FFT and five yesterday. It's the Chiefs quarterback and the Chiefs receiver. Receiver. Receiver. Yes. Chad Henney and Byron Pringle. Let's go get them. Mahomes, three straight games under 27 fantasy points for him. That's lower than expectations. Obviously, last week was really bad. Now's the time to pounce, especially if the guy that has Mahomes is somehow 3-4, 2-5. They're

trying to make a move. One way that they might be able to make a move is by taking in a lesser quarterback and another starter on their team. You can provide that lesser quarterback and another starter and get yourself Patrick Mahomes. I am positive that the Chiefs will turn this thing around. They play the Giants this week. Should happen as soon as this Monday night. Tyree Kill is connected to Patrick Mahomes. We know that he's had some pretty rough games lately.

I think he turns it around as well. These are two great players that teams with playoff aspirations and five plus wins should go and try and acquire ASAP. Yeah. You know, we actually got an Apple podcast question. We're going to get to those later from Keenan in San Diego. Where's he from? Dave San Diego.

Yeah. You just said, yeah, he is. Well, you're trying to see if I'm paying attention. No's he from, Dave? San Diego. Yeah. Yeah, he is. Are you trying to see if I'm paying attention? No, just a funny bit. He says, on Sunday night, thank you, you said that you would trade

Kyler Murray for Mahomes hands down. Can you dive into this more? Do we still believe that or was that reactionary? You believe that? Did I say that, though? I did. I think you guys agreed. I definitely agreed.

I've got Mahomes a point higher on the trade chart. I don't have a problem if somebody does it. You want to hear something nuts? You're not going to believe this. Patrick Mahomes has rushed for 219 yards. Kyler Murray has rushed for 126 yards.

Mahomes is running all over the place. He's fifth in the NFL in quarterback rushing yards. He's sixth per game behind Josh Allen. He's a little bit ahead of him, but Allen's played one fewer game, but Mahomes is actually running a lot more than ever. So imagine if that keeps up and he's, and he's still,

you know, my homes. So, okay. Heath, who's your favorite by low? You know, I,

first off, I pour one out for miles Sanders, who would have been the greatest by low if he hadn't got hurt last week and still might be a great by low who you can acquire for almost nothing. But I'm going to go, he's not my favorite cause he's currently hurt right now. We don't know how long he's going to be out. So I'm going to go, he's not my favorite because he's currently hurt right now. We don't know how long he's going to be out. So I'm going to go with his teammate, Devontae Smith.

I do expect he will have a better finish to the season than he's had a start to the season. We've talked about this Eagles closing schedule quite a bit. Basically, they play the Jets, the Giants, and the Washington football team for the last month and a half of the season. It's a fantastic closing schedule with worse pass defenses than run defenses. And so I think you'll see Devontae Smith be a top 20 wide receiver

from, say, week 13 or 14 on. Okay, this is a really interesting one. This is one that I listed in the bylaws as well, but as a question mark, because he has almost no red zone and green zone involvement. He does not have a target inside the 10-yard line. He has only two targets inside the 20-yard line this year. But Devontae Smith is dominating targets on the team. He has a 22% target share, and he's been very inconsistent.

Three big games, four bad games, basically. But if you just look at the raw numbers, in 16 games, he's on pace for 73 catches, 928 yards, only two touchdowns, on 121 targets. That's great for a rookie. So I think, you know, if you compare him to Jamar Chase,

you're obviously let down a little bit. But for most rookies, he's having a really good year and you think, all right, maybe that's going to, you know, kind of springboard him in the second half. At the same time, Hurts has issues. You got this report in The Athletic from Bo Wolfe saying he expects

at some point Gardner Minshew to make a start or some starts for the Eagles. So, Heath, you know, how confident can you really be given all those things? Because it's just been, for a guy who's had as many targets as he had, 53 yards, or 53 targets, it's been so inconsistent. And you know what I'm getting at here. He's a little bit tough to trust, I think. When you don't score very many touchdowns, you're more liable to be inconsistent.

And I think if he has a second-half breakout, it might be more of a dj more type second half breakout where he gets more and efficient in terms of the yards he's producing i don't think he's gonna have a stretch where he scores five touchdowns in the final six games of the season probably but that doesn't prevent him as dj more has shown us from being a top 20 and very valuable fantasy wide receiver all right so i'm not particularly worried about jalen hertz and i did we had an email like why do you guys hate jalen hertz because we always say i actually wrote fantasy quarterback i replied to that one yeah i think he's kind of right um jalen

hertz is basically still a rookie quarterback like we we have not given trevor lawrence near as much hate as we have jalen hertz i i don't think that we've been too hard on Jalen Hurts. I just think that... I don't think we know that he's a bad NFL quarterback. No, nobody should have said that. I don't think anyone's actually said that. I think right now he's not a very good NFL quarterback. But, you know, as a passer,

what's relevant is how good is he as a passer, because we're talking about Devontae Smith here. And obviously, Hertz is not a great passer right now. Well, but I think, like, as we've seen with Marquise Brown, early in Lamar Jackson's career, when he was not as good a passer as he currently is, but probably a better passer than people gave him credit for, Lamar Jackson's running ability

helped make up for some of his inaccuracy as a passer as far as it related to Marquise Brown. Because Marquise Brown was wide open on plays because everybody was so worried about Lamar Jackson as a runner. So I do think Hurts' rushing ability is relevant to how he is as an NFL quarterback and Devontae Smith. But mostly, even if it was Gardner Minshew, I think Devontae Smith could still be a second half by low. Okay, so we'll do our little let's make a deal. And actually, in honor of a horror movie and Halloween, we're going to call it What's in the Box? One of the weirdest lines.

That's Brad Pitt in Seven, just freaking out what's in the box. All right, so we have eight mystery boxes, Heath. You can have Devontae Smith or any of the eight mystery boxes. So, Dave, should I tell him vaguely what are in the boxes? No. The description? No, but I think I should. You've got to pick the box first, and then you've got to tell him the description.

If it's Devante Smith or a mystery box, I'm going to take Devante Smith. Well, that's not fun. I think I should tell you. Do you want to know the vague description yeah that's what I'm saying the vague description that's what I was going to tell him you should get all the information before you make a decision I thought you just said that he wasn't going to tell me the vague description

I think you have to pick a box and then you get the description well no that doesn't help I'm going to run this game here mystery box number one you left one letter out what did I what do you mean here. All right, Heath. Mystery box number one. You left one letter out. What did I mean?

You said you were going to run this game. Add an I. Oh, in run. That's good. I already did that. All right, mystery box number one. You renamed the game that we're playing for the first time. So, yes, you may have already. Shut up. Mystery box number one is a wide receiver on a team with a bird mascot. It's not Devante Smith.

It's not Devante Smith. Mystery box number two is two NFC West running backs. You could have Devante Smith or two NFC West running backs. That'd be Eli Mitchell and Alex Collins, I presume. Mystery box number three is an NFC be Eli Mitchell and Alex Collins. I presume mystery box. Number three is an NFC East running back and wide receiver. You can't do mystery box. Number three.

One of them is Devante Smith. Mystery box. Number four. I would like mystery box. Number three over Devante Smith. Please. Mystery box. Number four is a current top 10 wide receiver.

Mystery box. Number five is a current top five tight end. You box number five is a current top five tight end. You willing to trade Devante Smith for either of those? We've hit the ruin part of this. Go ahead. Yeah, I will trade Devante Smith for any of the current top 10 wide receivers. So I'd take the current top 10 wide receiver.

You just got Marquise Brown. Okay. Congratulations. Good trade got Marquise Brown. Okay. Congratulations. Good trade. Good trade. All right. Marquise Brown is off the board. My league.

All right. Dave, best sell high right now. I'd like to sell high on Mike Evans. Coming off of a three touchdown game against the Bears. Eventually, Gronk's going to be back. Could be this week. Antonio Brown is going to be back. What's going to happen to his target share his touchdown production his yardage when tom brady's got everybody back on the field i certainly don't

think he's going to have a lot of two touchdown games much less three touchdown games if you've had mike evans you've gotten maybe the best numbers that he's going to get this year still a startable fantasy receiver don Don't get me wrong. We're all going to start them. But I mean, we saw him kind of wilt a little bit when Antonio Brown was on the field and Gronk wasn't. Now they're all going to be back. A lot of mouths to feed.

So if you can turn Mike Evans into something good, I would do it. I want to say he has pretty bad history against Marshawn Lattimore and the Saints. That's this week's matchup. He's been okay. It's not great. And in week 15 as well. He has him. He has Buffalo. We talked about it. He's got some tough

cornerbacks coming up. Mike Evans. Would you rather have Mike Evans? I debated this with Chris the other day. Mike Evans or Debo Samuel? I thought you were doing Mike Evans in the mystery box. I'll do that later for the buy lows. These are the sell highs. You don't want to keep the other day. Mike Evans or Debo Samuel? I thought you were doing Mike Evans or the mystery box. I'll do that later for the, for the buy lows. These are the sell highs. Nobody, you know, you don't want to keep the sell highs, but would you trade Mike Evans for, all right, all right, fine. Fine. Well, but answer my question first, Mike Evans or Debo.

I've got Evans higher on the value chart than Debo. Uh, it's very actually Debo's higher in full PPR, non PPR. It's Mike Evans who's higher, but they're both sell high candidates. Okay. Ready, Dave? You've got seven mystery boxes. I'm just going to offer you three. Offer me one. Pick one that you haven't talked about yet. Okay. Either Mike Evans or the mystery box. Mike Evans

or an AFC South starting running back. Could be Robinson, Could be Taylor. Those guys are awesome. Could be Derek Henry. That guy's awesome. Or Mark Ingram. Or it could be Mark Ingram.

So I got a 75% chance of getting a stud running back. I'll take the box. All right. Give me the box. It is Mark Ingram for Mike Evans. Dave. Yeah, I never thought you had a 75% chance of running back. Well, I got some good ones out here.

You know, some of them have to be bad. Adam clearly has some good ones. Marquise Brown was in a box. That's right. That's right. All right, Heath, best sell high. I think it's Joe Burrow. Not because I don't think Joe Burrow can't be a low end number one quarterback,

but he's been a lot better than that. The last couple of weeks, he's probably coming off what will end up being one of his best games of the season. I still have a little bit concern that they are not going to be a high paced, high passing offense. I think this week against the jets will tell us a lot more,

but he's not running at all. So he has like, I don't think it's very likely that he's going to be a top five quarterback just as a passer. Cause he's not throwing it 45 times a game like Tom Brady. So if, if somebody's seen what Burrow's done the last couple of weeks, I would still rather have Dak than him.

I'd still rather have Justin Herbert than him. He's been better than both of them before this season. I would like to see if I could turn Joe Burrow and something else into Mahomes or Lamar Jackson. I don't hate that plan at all. I actually like that game plan. I think there will be some low output games for Burrow, but when I say low output, I'm thinking low 20s maybe high high teens and this could be one of those games let's face it joe mixon should go off against the jets and and burrow might still get two touchdowns but it might come with 195 yards something like that so i i get where you're coming from let me give you three names here let's say you've got burrow i've got

these three players which rank these three in terms of what you would do in a one-for-one trade. Jerry Judy, Michael Thomas, Chris Carson. I'm presuming I have a top 12 quarterback in addition to Joe Burrow if I'm training him for a non-quarterback. What if you don't, though? Let's say that you're planning on trading Burrow, and then you're going to stream the position. Okay, so it's judy

michael thomas and who chris carson rank those three as compensation that you would accept which one would you accept the most or want the most which one would you be okay carson's definitely last okay carson's definitely last i'm not i'm very uncertain that chris carson's going to be a starting fantasy running back again ever. So you would rather have Burrow than stream quarterbacks and put Chris Carson on your IR? For sure. Got it. Judy and Michael Thomas are really, really close.

I would probably put Judy first, and I'd probably take Judy. But Thomas would be – unless I was like 6-1 or 7-0, then I'd probably take Michael Thomas. Okay, got it. Well, if you want an edge on setting your DFS lineup, please check out the Fantasy Football Today DFS podcast, bringing you all of the DFS insights that you need to dominate in DFS. Frank Stample, Mike McClure, and Sian Ajad provide cash and GPP analysis.

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Hey, real quick, Michael Thomas or Antonio Brown. Brown. Hey, B Christian McCaffrey or James Robinson. Robinson. Robinson's going to be

a score more points rest of season. I would guess McCaffrey would be better points per game and it totally depends on whether you're above or below 500 who I'd prefer to have right now.

DJ Moore or Leonard Fournette? Let's say full PPR. More. Fournette. Fournette's a sell-high candidate. Fournette is? He could be. That's the thing though. If he's a sell-high candidate. Fournette is? He could be. That's the thing, though.

If he's a sell-high candidate and you're not willing to take a top 12 wide receiver for him, how high do you have to sell? I would want something in addition to DJ Moore. I am not convinced that DJ Moore is a top 12 wide receiver. You are? He's currently number eight. Yes.

I am not looking at rest of season rankings as... What is Devontae Adams right now? He's fourth. I still think he's number... Well, COVID, I guess. He's two, believe it or not. Yes. So DJ Moore is number four.

Sam Darnold threw for 295 or more yards in each of his first four games. You think he's going to reach that four more times this season? They're an absolute mess right now. So I do not value DJ Moore as number eight overall. I do not think the last three Panthers games are significantly more predictive than the first four. Okay, then pick up Sam Darnold. I know you don't think Sam Darnold's good.

I didn't want to start Sam Darnold after the first four games. He was playing over his head. So you don't believe that Sam Darnold is the, a good quarterback. Like he showed in the first three games of the year, but you think DJ Moore is a 12 wide receiver. I think he can throw for 250 to 300 yards and one touchdown and an interception every week. That's Sam Darnold.

Sometimes two interceptions. Yeah. But that doesn't hurt me anymore. Why wouldn't you take Leonard Fournette? Fournette is the guy. He's catching three or four passes every game. They're not messing with him. He looks like a must-start, no doubt about it, running back.

I just think if we're going to say the, I'm not taking what they've done so far, applying that to the Tampa Bay running back should probably happen as well. Why? It doesn't really seem like they're going to Ronald Jones this time. I mean, it really feels different, doesn't it? I understand. Don't you think that? It feels different.

I don't know. I think it's a little bit different. Fournette has established himself for longer this time it might take three mistakes now instead of one or two but i don't think his job is 100 secure for the rest of the season all right terry mclaurin or cordero i on fournette would be to like spin him up into a better running back you take fournette and another player and you go after one of the top fantasy rushers. All right, Terry McLaurin or Cordaro Patterson? McLaurin.

But again, this is another guy who I thought was a top 12 wide receiver coming into the year, has been a top 12 wide receiver so far, and I expect to continue being a top 12 wide receiver. I get that with McLaurin. I've got Patterson higher. He came out of the bye with more playing time for Atlanta.

He had a good game. He didn't have a great game, and he wasn't really that involved in the pass game. I think that can change as the Falcons move forward. I'd rather Patterson. Let's do some news. I'd put it this way. I'd rather have the running back. Right. Okay. All right. Let's do some news. I'd put it this way. I'd rather have the running back. Right.

Okay. All right. Let's do some news and notes. Alan Rezard is on the reserve COVID list, but MVS could play this week. So you're not going to have Rezard. Probably not going to have Devante Adams. That game is coming up.

We're going to break that one down in a little bit. DeAndre Hopkins mispracticed with a hamstring injury, but we expect him to play. So Jordan Howard may be activated, according to a report for the Eagles. Andre Hopkins mispracticed with a hamstring injury, but we expect him to play. So Jordan Howard may be activated, according to a report, for the Eagles. And what would that mean, Heath? It doesn't mean, like it could mean something.

It doesn't mean much to me. The Eagles are going to be without a running back. It makes sense that they would activate another running back. They're going to have three or four, or if they have enough to play special teams, probably four active. So I still expect it's going to be Boston Scott and Kenneth Gainwell. Okay. Okay, so we mentioned the Gardner Minshew thing.

Bo Wolfe of the Athletics would be surprised if Minshew doesn't start at some point this season for the Eagles are one of those teams. They should expect to go beat the Lions. They go beat the Lions. They're three and five. As we talked about, they play five games against the Giants, Washington football team, and Jets to end the season. They've got a reasonable chance to think that they're competing for the final wildcard spot.

I think the idea that Gardner Minshew might start, as much as I love Gardner Minshew, is probably based around the idea that they're going to be out of contention and they want to just see Gardner Minshew in their offense because they've given up on Jalen Hurts being their quarterback. I don't think that seems very likely with their remaining schedule. I think it's expedited if they lose to the Lions, though. If Hurts lays an egg against Detroit and the Lions pull out a win, and I wouldn't put it past the Lions. They clearly are trying to pull out all the stops to win a football game. We saw that last week against the Rams. Right.

It wouldn't surprise me if things happened a lot faster in that regard. Hertz needs to win this week. The fantasy production is great, but the Eagles coaches really don't care about his fantasy production. I understand that completely. I would take objection to the lays an egg thing, because if Hurts lays an egg this week, it would be the first egg that he's laid this season.

And he's not losing these games. The rest of the team around him is not good. I'm sorry, man. I think that would it be the first fantasy egg that he would lay if Hurts laid an egg? Yes. But I just don't understand. I mean, Jalen Hurts is not a good passer. I don't think I'm going out on a limb here.

When you watch the broadcast, you know, the announcers keep saying he underthrows his deep ball. He underthrows his deep ball. He's extremely inaccurate. He was awful against the Cowboys on national TV. I'm sorry. I just I think he is a problem for them right now. I'm not condemning him to a career of bad football. He could obviously become great. He's super athletic. He's got talent, but I just think the facts are he hasn't been a very good

quarterback. He's a reason why they are struggling. He is a reason, not the reason. He has been an inefficient passer as the most pressured quarterback in the NFL. But like I have a hard time and we, we had this debate with Lamar Jackson too. I have a hard time saying a guy that completed 64% of his passes and threw for 326 yards was awful. He was awful. Did you watch that game? The amount of plays that he missed.

Do you remember the plays he missed? I think it's the same thing as Lamar Jackson early in his career. His misses really bother you because they're so bad. You can't do that in the NFL. What's that? You can't do that. You can't do that in the NFL.

You can't miss easy balls. Have you watched Lamar Jackson this year? I mean, I haven't seen every throw, but he's a much improved passer from what I've seen. That's what happens to quarterbacks. I'm not saying that Jalen Hurts can't... Do you remember Josh Alters? Dude, you're misinterpreting my argument. Oh, but he's a much improved passer from what I've seen. That's what happens to quarterbacks generally in the first three years of their career. You remember Josh Alters?

Dude, you're misinterpreting my argument. I'm not saying Jalen Hurts can't be that. I'm not saying that. I'm saying that he isn't that right now. I'm saying that he is not a good passer right now. And the Eagles, I think they feel that way. It seems like everybody feels that way. And I think you are exaggerating his faults as a passer.

All right. I mean, maybe that's possible. How about this? Last three games, he took on the Panthers, the Bucks, and the Raiders. He completed less than 55% of those throws. I don't care what metric you want to use. That's not good. Now, if you're going to tell me that his receivers had three or four drops in each game,

I'm going to say that Hurts is struggling as a passer, given that metric in his last three games. I would agree with you about the Cowboys game, Heath. Just the fact that he came out of that game. He wasn't perfect. Obviously, two interceptions in the game, but he completed well over 60% of his throws. After the game, we were like,

gosh, Jalen Hurts really struggled last night. Right, but he's also struggled now. He bounced back from that game, and since then, the last three games I just talked about, that's been the struggle. And I think if the Eagles continue to see him struggle like that, where he's not completing 60% of his throws, and he's not throwing downfield as much

or challenging downfield as much, and he's done some of that, I shouldn't say that that's the problem. The bigger problem is just accuracy. Yeah. It hasn't been there for him. I look, I just want to make clear.

I am not statistically, if you line him up against the first and second year quarterbacks that are currently playing in the NFL, he would be in the upper half statistically as a best. All right. I am not saying that he's bad. I'm not saying that he's going to be bad. I'm saying that he has struggled as a passer.

And yeah, that's just the reality of it. And I really feel like, you know, you are spinning the stats in a very positive way because it just seems like the people that cover the team and the fans, it just seems like they don't think that Jalen Hurst is a very good passer. And this is the same. Yeah, I don't care what the fans think.

Well, but you should, because this is what I talked about with like Terod Taylor, right? Nobody in Buffalo wanted to keep Terod Taylor. And a lot of the people, oh, Taylor, look at this and this and this. Taylor's really good. He's really, no, he's not.

And that's why he's a career backup now. And it's like, I don't know. I mean, the writing's on the wall that Jalen Hurts right now is not getting it done. And they don't seem sold on him. Why have we talked so much more about that with him than these six or seven other first or second year quarterbacks that have been worse as him as a passer?

We shouldn't be. You're right about that. Probably, yeah. I mean, that's a good point. But I think because he's in his second year, because he's in his second year, and he only started four games last year. It's not fair to say he's in his second year because he barely played in his first and and he hasn't he only started four games last year because he barely played in his first year so i think he's point there is spot

on the question that i've got is how patient are the eagles going to be with him we know the jaguars are going to be super patient with trevor lawrence we know the patriots with mac jones the bears of justin fields 49ers with trey lance but this goes on back wilson he's been better than all of them be patient they have to be patient with all those quarterbacks. I don't know how patient the Texans are going to be with Davis Mills. And I don't know how patient the Eagles are going to be with Jalen Hurts. But if they really think that he's a possible solution to their quarterback issue, then there should be no talk about Gardner Minshew taking over for him.

They need to let him go through it just like the Ravens did with Lamar Jackson during the half of his rookie year that he played and then into 2019 when he was on fire, then he struggled in the playoffs. And then in 2020 when he was up and down a little bit. And this year he's come out great as a passer. Same thing with Josh Allen. That's the question is, do the Eagles coaches want to move forward with Jalen Hurts?

And if they're going to judge him on the last three games and then make a change, or if he goes out and bombs against Detroit, then if they make a change after that, you know exactly where they stand and you know what the future is going to be like for Jalen Hurts. I agree with you, Heath.

In time, if given the opportunity, I think Jalen Hurts could be a heck of a quarterback. I agree with that, too. I agree with that, too. Don't put words by mouth. Now he's not playing well. That's the reality. Yeah, no, don't put too. I agree with that, too. Don't put words by mouth. Now he's not playing well. That's the reality. Yeah, no, don't put words.

I am not, again, this is not about the future. I'm just asking that we compare him as a passer to the other players in the NFL with similar experience playing quarterback as a passer. I think that when you're just looking at completion percentage, that's not the whole story here. George for attempt. Trevor Lawrence, I'm going to tell you, I don't know what the stats say. I have no idea. Trevor Lawrence is a better passer than Jalen Hurts.

Yeah. And like, if you look at the 52 quarterbacks who have been first year quarterbacks in the last 10 years, Trevor Lawrence, it looks like there's not a statistic that makes him look good. And I, but I will tell you that I think in my heart, in my eyes, I believe Trevor Lawrence is a better passer than Jalen Hurts. I am going to choose stats generally over your heart and your eyes. Yeah, but we're talking about the number one quarterback prospect since Andrew Luck. You don't think he's a better passer than Jalen Hurts? How about everything that happened in college?

He's a pocket passer. I'm not saying that. I'm saying thus far he has not been. Okay. He's a pocket. I'm not saying that I'm saying thus far, he has not been. Okay. Oh, that might be true, but I think that he is,

and I don't even know. I'm not even looking at the numbers. He is a better pass. You know what I'm saying? Like I'm saying that if you put, if you're just saying, who's a better passer, Trevor Lawrence or Jalen hurts,

I think the answer is Trevor Lawrence. Okay. Maybe this, maybe he hasn't performed that way, but he's a better passer. Right, and we'll just give him a free pass for a year and a half or two years because he's a young quarterback

and he'll probably get better. No, because he is the number one. No, no, stop, stop, stop. Because he's the number one. Like, pedigree has to matter here. Trevor Lawrence has a much better pedigree than Jalen Hurts. That has to matter at some point.

Right, it has to matter. Right now, it has to matter. Like, Trevor Lawrence, prospect pedigree matters. Jalen Hurts is not Trevor Lawrence. All right, sorry. It has to matter. Like Trevor Lawrence, a prospect pedigree matters. Jalen hurts is not Trevor Lawrence. All right. Sorry. Got worked up there.

Well, I'm still worked up, but we can move on, but it's true. All right. Washington worked like, okay, fine.

Heath, you're starting a franchise. Trevor Lawrence or Jalen hurts. That doesn't have anything to do with what we're talking about. I don't even know what way that we talk about these quarterbacks and the way we evaluate their performance. Yeah. Okay.

So I, right. I think I probably mixed up current versus future a little bit with, with the Lawrence hurts argument. I, you know, yeah. All right. Washington worked out carry on Johnson and Deontay Foreman. And I don't think that can make you feel too great about

Antonio Gibson's shin. Miami signed Duke Johnson to the practice squad. Left guard Andrews Peet for the Saints may have torn his pec. That would be a big loss

for them. Roger Goodell says he doesn't have enough information to put Deshaun Watson on the commissioner's exemplus, and we should talk

about this, guys. Do you think Deshaun Watson plays this year if he gets traded? Yeah. Do you, we should talk about this, guys. Do you think Deshaun Watson plays this year if he gets traded? Yeah. Do you think we should be stashing Deshaun Watson? I think if you have the roster spot to spare,

regardless of your league size, you should put Deshaun Watson in that spot and carry him for the next seven days. By this time next week, we'll know what team Deshaun Watson's playing on and what his status is. Okay. And Jerry Judy will play this week.

Ramondre Stevenson's status could be unpredictable according to their running backs coach, Ivan Fears. You know, it could just be between him and J.J. Taylor who's better in practice that week. And Giants safety Jabril Pe, is out for the season. Kind of a third safety for them. Played a lot, but not exactly a starter. But tough loss for the Giants.

All right. What's going to do buy low, sell high? I think we should go right to the game because this is such an interesting game. Green Bay at Arizona. First... No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Wait, wait, wait.

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Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah. Green Bay at Arizona. Stat of the game. James Conner has outscored Chase Edmonds in full PPR in five straight games Yes he has But is this a James Conner game?

Because if it's close I've got on their schedule so far I've got three close games One of them was the Jacksonville game They did win by 12 but it was close pretty late in the fourth quarter about midway through

In three close games, he does not have more than 11 carries in any of those games. So has he earned that, though? Is he a bigger part of that? Is this a James Conner game? Dave, I'll let you start. I think every game is a James Conner game. I think what we're looking at from this Arizona offense is that James Conner still, I know last week was a little bit different. It was a blowout against Houston and we saw chase Edmonds play a ton of snaps. I think it was a season high for him. I think it was a season high for him at like right around 70%. And it was a season low for Connor. But I think that had to do with just the Cardinals wanting to get Edmonds a little bit more work. He

had 15 carries 90 total yards. Everybody was happy with what Edmonds did. Connor still scored. It wasn't even a short yardage touchdown. He had to work a little bit to get it. I think he's still got that short yardage goal line roll on lock. He's their bully back. And maybe in this game against the Packers, he's also going to be the closer, different type of closer for this game against Green Bay versus what Chase Edmonds was in a laugher against Houston. So I still like Connor better. I like his chances to score. He's been scoring a bunch. And Edmonds hasn't been getting that workload in the passing game like we had hoped to.

And like he got at the beginning of the year, his last three games, I want to say he's had seven catches and he hasn't had a good receiving average on those seven catches. And some of it had to do with the fact that he was playing through a shoulder injury, and maybe he's over that because they gave him 15 carries last week. But I'm with Connor, PPR, non-PPR, much closer gap between the two of them. In fact, they might even be back-to-back in my PPR rankings,

but not in my non-PPR rankings. There is a gap there. And the last thing I'll say is it's Thursday night. Running backs tend to do better on Thursdays than they do on Sundays. Yeah, I'm back on Edmonds. That scared me quite a bit that James Conner played 30% of the snaps last week.

And the only game he's played 50% of the snaps or more was at Cleveland the week that we know that Chase Edmonds was dealing with the shoulder injury and another blowout win. I just, I really think, and I know he's scored what four of his past five games, but you look at his yardage totals and the fact that he just doesn't do anything at all in the passing game. And there's a super low floor. And I don't think in this game, there's a particular, I mean and I don't think in this game there's a particular... Really, for most of the season, except for the weeks that he scored two touchdowns,

there hasn't been a very high ceiling. I do not really want to start James Conner. Do you want to start Chase Edmonds? He's a borderline number two running back. Replacement running backs this week. Khalil Herbert, Darrell Williams ahead of these

guys for sure Chuba Hubbard at Atlanta yep oh I guess you'd have to make a decision on Thursday on Devante Booker I think we expect Saquon Barkley to practice this week but if you do yeah if if Barkley is I probably just go ahead and start Edmonds over Booker anyway. I would start Michael Carter over these guys. I'm not there yet. I've got both Cardinals ahead of Michael Carter. I've got them both ahead of Gaskin. I've got them both ahead of Gordon.

Gainwell, we've got to get to that, right? Gainwell or a running back, Cardinals guy. I'll pick a Cardinals running back over Kennethinal sky i'll take a cardinal's running back over kenneth gainwell all right that's as of now i think i have it edmunds gainwell scott connor i've got it oh i'm sorry connor edmunds gainwell scott okay finishing up on the cardinals here let me finish up on the cardinals. Hopkins, Kyler, must starts. AJ Green, Christian Kirk, any interest, guys?

As bi-week replacements go, they're fine. As number three receivers go, they're okay. I don't feel comfortable recommending Green or Kirk just generally. I've got them both right around wide receiver 40, which seems really low, but again, the difference between last week and this week is enormous in terms of the number of available players

we have to start. But there are some significant names that I would start both Green and Kirk over. I'd start them over Judy. I'd start them over Julio. I'd start them over Tyler Boyd. So I'm not anti them but they're low-end borderline number threes

the only one I'm with you on there is Boyd I'd definitely start Julio and Judy ahead of them and then Zach Ertz like him and love him this week eh he's definitely in the eh category eh for Ertz I've got him 13th and i actually have another

double evan engram ahead of him in full ppr zach ertz is my second favorite tight end in this game ah there you go all right but so tonyan over earths okay and Dave, are you also Tunyon over Ertz? I am. Okay. And Tunyon over Ingram as well. Yeah. And how about Ricky Seals-Jones or a tight end in this game? I have Seals-Jones ranked the highest. Seals-Jones, I believe.

Okay. Then let's go over to the Packers here. Start or sit, Aaron? Rogers. Okay. I've got him 12th at quarterback. I don't feel great about him without Devontae Adams

and Alan Lazard. I had him at 11th with Lazard. I moved him down one spot. I'm going to make the case for Valdez Scantling in a couple of minutes, but I do worry about Aaron Rodgers having a 300 yard three touchdown type of game without his absolute best receiver and another solid wide receiver can he make it work yeah can he make it work to the point where he's thrown three touchdowns i'm a little nervous

about that i think green bay would be wise to come out running the football a lot leaning on their two running backs the short week absolutely the fact that those guys have been playing well, despite the numbers not being what we wanted them to be for Jones last week, I think they're absolutely in a great spot to run roughshod against Arizona. I'm lower on Rodgers than Dave is. I do think that they should go run heavy. And the fact is Aaron Rodgers has given us... There's a chance he

finishes top 12 and you start somebody over him you shouldn't have. I don't think there's really that big a risk that he gives you one of those games where you're like, oh, I can't believe I missed that. He's only had two top six weeks this season with Devontae Adams. I don't think he's going to give us one this week.

He has been great without Adams over the last two years, if that matters. weeks this season with Devante Adams. I don't think he's going to give us one this week. All right. He has been great without Adams over the last two years, if that matters. Sure. And I think, and I mentioned this yesterday, I think he's excited about the prospect of playing without Adams and Vance Joseph of the Cardinals kind of mentioned it. He said, it's going to be a tougher challenge for us because now he's got to play a little bit more. I think he used the word cleanly.

He's got to spread the ball around. We don't know exactly where he's going to go with it, what he's going to do with it. But I could see, I guess without Adams there, I think the range of outcomes is just much wider toward the bottom than it is toward the top. Keith's right. There's really no shot of a top six finish.

All right, so hold on. So let me talk about the streamers, basically. Guys you may have picked up, would you start... Well, first of all, would you start Kirk Cousins over at Rogers? I would. Would you start Taylor Heineke against Denver? I would not. Yeah.

Teddy Bridgewater in that game, Washington. For sure. For me. I'm not there yet Matt Ryan against Carolina yep I'm there yes okay Carson Wentz not there yet all right it's a lot of yeses for Heath that one I said yes okay all right start Aaron Jones AJ Dillon is a number three running back I do wonder if they use Dillon is a number three running back. I do wonder if they use Dillon a little bit more in the passing game. We've seen that without Devontae Adams. The running backs get a ton of catches from Aaron Rodgers.

33% target share in the six games that Adams has missed for the running backs over the past two years. 33%. You figure 20 of those probably go to Aaron Jones, but that might mean four targets for Dillon. Okay. But, yeah, still he's not, I mean, can't call him a great starter or anything like that. So pick a wide receiver for the Packers

Heath. The only one I would consider would be Marquez Valdez Scantling, but it would be completely as a boom bust flex play, just hoping that he scores a 50 yard touchdown. Like he probably gets six targets. The problem is with Marquez Valdez-Scantling,

six targets means two or three catches. Even with Aaron Rodgers, he consistently has a 30% to 40%, maybe 50% catch rate. He's got to have the big 40-yard play, or he's got to get into the end zone. Some positives on Valdez-Scantling. Number one, I watched all of his targets from this year. There weren't that many, but I watched them.

No mistakes, no drops. I think he fell down once, so I don't know if that counts really that much against him. A lot of deep routes. There's no question about it, but he caught a bunch of short area passes as well. Doesn't run a full route tree. Has an opportunity to be the number one target getter

for the Green bay packers against arizona and so there probably will be in the neighborhood of two to four deep throws from rogers i would imagine he can catch one of those and then i think he's got a shot at maybe four to five other targets in that short to intermediate range and now we're talking about a lot of work for valdez scantling which sounds foreign to us but it's because there's no lazard and there's no davante adams and who else do they have they have randall cobb who's probably safe for 10 ppr points but equinemius saint brown kind of a worse version of valdez scantling he could come through on a deep ball he could have a breakaway play but he really just doesn't have a lot of experience

with the track record of doing something like that. And Amari Rogers is a lot like Randall Cobb as a short area target type of wide receiver. So I think that they really don't have a choice, but when they do throw the ball, Valdez Scantling is going to be the one that's got the most upside. So I'm with you, Heath, as far as a boom-bust flex.

I've got him right around 36th in my PPR receiver rankings, and I'm kind of intrigued by him and the best part is is that you can stash him on your ir and you have to do this because and we should honestly have prefaced this before we even started talking about valdez scantling we have to make sure he's actually activated for the game it sounds like he will um i feel pretty confident that he will but you can stash him in your IR spot for now, and then when he's activated, you'll have the choice of taking him out of that IR spot if you want to.

Would you start MVS if you knew he was playing, or Kenneth Gainwell? Gainwell. I think Gainwell's the safer play. How about MVS or JD McKissick? Gainwell. MVS or JD McKissick? Game one. MVS or JD McKissick? I think I'd go

Valdez-Scantling. I'd probably go pick up Kalief Raymond. Okay. Okay. Alright then, and that's pretty much it. We talked about Robert Tunyon. By the way, if this matters to you, the Cardinals have allowed the third fewest pass plays of 20-plus yards

and only two pass plays all year of 40-plus yards. And the two teams that have given up fewer pass plays of 20-plus yards both had a bye, Buffalo and the Chargers. So you could say they might be the second best in the NFL behind Buffalo so far at allowing big pass plays but uh they i think they faced you know fairly easy competition a little bit up and down up and down and they certainly have when it comes to tight ends like they rank number one in fantasy points fewest fans allowed to tight ends but the best side and they've seen is tyler higby but i

don't know if any team has played more incredibly talented wide receivers. Like they have played a huge number of great wide receivers and none of them have gone over 80 yards. Yeah. The only ones who have had more than 65 yards are KJ Osborne, Van Jefferson, Odell Beckham and Donovan Peoples-Jones. Now in fairness, Marquez Valdez-Scantling fits in well with that group. Right, but he doesn't have A.J. Brown, Julio Jones,

Justin Jefferson on the field with him. Robert Woods, Cooper Cup. They took away. They did a pretty damn good job against these great receivers. But it is interesting. It is interesting to see who's produced against this team. All right. So, Dave, I think that's it for third. Oh, DSTs who's produced against this team. All right. So Dave, I think that's it for Thursday. Oh, DSTs.

Sit them. Start them. Start them. Sit them. If I had to pick one, it would be the Cardinals DST. Obviously. That's it for Thursday Night Football. We'll take a quick break on fantasy football today. Come

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And Heath, I know you wanted to talk about dynasty trade targets. Did you want to get into that? If you want to do that now, that would be fantastic. Let's do it. All right. Dynasty trade stuff is the name of the segment. What do we got? I think we should start with just some rules of thumb for this time of year. First off, you should know whether you are a true contender or whether you are playing for draft picks. If you are playing for draft picks, you should not, in my opinion, have any running backs who are age 26 or older on your team. That makes a lot of the top running backs sell highs for teams that do not plan on

competing for the rest of this season. Dalvin Cook, Alvin Kamara, Derrick Henry, Ezekiel Elliott, Austin Eckler, Aaron Jones, all of those guys approaching a point where if you're just thinking about competing next year, it is more likely next year their value goes down than up. And I would say the same thing with any wide receiver in the age 28 to 29 range. I do not want to... DeAndre Hopkins is a prime example. Devontae Adams, even.

Like, if you're not playing for this year, it's time to turn those guys into draft picks. Okay. The flip side is if you're not playing for this year, it's time to turn those guys into draft picks. Okay. The flip side is if you're not, is I am trying to acquire the rookies like Devontae Smith we talked about earlier or second year players who have not yet popped. Devontae Williams, a great example.

Any of the quarterbacks because they've all been awful. I want to ask you something here. I haven't brought this up yet, but since the two of you are playing each other this week, actually, in the Tankathon in your Dynasty League, have you looked at mock drafts lately? Because most of the top 10 to 15 is non-skilled position players. This is not Javante Smith, Jalen Waddell, Kyle Pitts, Jamar Chase. I don't know how much stock to put into those at this time of year,

considering what the last year and a half of college football have been. We've had some real late emergers in over the last couple of years because some of these guys like a lot of these guys didn't play last year or played six or seven games yeah and so it was supposed to be a deep draft class this year because a lot of players kept an extra year of eligibility

so this was supposed to be a loaded draft class but right now when I look at mock drafts I don't see these wider that's why I'm not putting as much weight into that all right okay works for me so how are you guys uh what are your starting lineups going to be this week well we had a really interesting turn of events on the waiver wire last night because dave's only quarterback is joe burrow so according to the rules of our league, Dave has to start Joe Burrow. So he went and spent 17%, I believe of his fab on Joe Flacco. I spent 1% of my fab on Mike White.

It will be, it's going to be a problem for Dave. If Mike White is named the starter, as we expect. No, it's not. Did we still play? Cannot start a backup quarterback. It's been very clear about that. Hold on a second. We knew going into the game, going into this week, that Flacco could still play.

I can start Flacco. I've seen nothing. I've seen, if you can point me to a quote from a coach that Joe Flacco is expected to play this week. Does it have to be a Jets coach? Coach Dave Richard. But you'll know by Sunday.

You'll know who's starting. Yeah. Right? Yeah. If Mike White's starting, then Dave is really a pickle. If not, I'll just start Burrow. I'll probably win then if that's the case. Who else? Any other fun decisions? I think that I'm just Art Burrow yeah I'll probably win then if that's the case who else well any other fun decisions

I'm in this spot yeah I've got some tough spots because I've been starting Ty Johnson and I'm going to have to replace him in my lineup right now I've got Marlon Mack and Savan Ahmed at running back my wide receivers are Elijah Moore

Josh Reynolds, and Josh Gordon. Uh, flex. I've got DJ Dallas and Chris Evans. My tight end is Pharaoh Brown. Uh, my gosh.

Yeah. The problem is I, which is an IDP league and I've got pretty decent defensive players and you just can't stash so many of them that you start bad defensive players as well so this will be a game it's um and if tarod taylor comes off the ir then i'm gonna have to make a decision with what i do with a roster spot because i have to bench davis mills to start taylor okay yeah for those of you not following david and heath are both trying to tank in this Dynasty League.

Dave, what's your starting lineup going to look like? And Heath has a one-game lead on me for one of those picks, and I helped him out by losing to a team that was previously winless last week. I've got Flacco in at quarterback. I plan on keeping him there. Michael Carter is my top running back, along with Jarrett Patterson. We know that Patterson will play to some degree

for the football team. My wide receivers, listen to this group, KJ Osborne, Darnell Mooney, and Marquise Goodwin. Dan Arnold is my tight end. My flexes are pretty good. It's Tyler Boyd and Tyler Higbee. I'm looking for some... You're going to crush him.

I'm going to crush him. Well, that's the thing. Dave says, my bench is loaded with all the players that I was planning on going for with this year. Dave should currently be 3-4, heading for 4-4 and headed to the playoffs. I've got a two-game edge on you because you have scored 407 more points than me in seven weeks sure because there was a point this year where i was trying to win so that's what i'm saying like if you if if i win

this week we're both two wins but i still have the first pick yeah i dave you should you should just go for it man like you're not well or just get the second pick i guess not a huge deal all right let me get a little more trade talk in here. Lamar Jackson, I just think that you just look at his paces of pass attempts and rush attempts over the last three seasons. He's basically, this year and the last two years, about the same amount of carries. You know, his rushing totals are pretty similar. But he's throwing so much more.

So it doesn't make sense for him to be, I wouldn't even say he's struggling that much, but the game log has been very inconsistent. The usage, though, of Lamar Jackson, he's just the most involved player. He's in every facet of it, and it's just ridiculous. I really feel like, because I know Heath, you'd agree with this.

Finally, we could be on the same page. A little more touchdown luck for Lamar Jackson. He could be just, oh crap, I'm facing Lamar Jackson this week. It's over. It could be that good. Right? I mean, agree? With this usage, I think that most projections would say Lamar Jackson is probably going to be the best quarterback in fantasy

the rest of the season. But he had a 7.2% touchdown rate for his career coming into this season. He has a 4.4% touchdown rate now for this year. Now, you would expect if he throws more that rate to come down, and if it's 7.2%, you'd expect it to come down anyway. But he's at least two to three passing touchdowns shy of where he should be and we know who's a who's went through mark these browns hands right right uh miles gas it's really kind of the same thing on rushing as well like he's he's not i i would expect he'd have at least one maybe two more rushing touchdowns than he has

based on what he's done for his career. All right, Myles Gaskin I wanted to ask you about. Is this actually a buy high or maybe he's a buy low because people still don't buy him? Or do you wait because maybe he has a bad game against Buffalo and then it's a much better schedule after that? But the Malcolm Brown injury, I mean,

even if you want to say buy low or sell high, do you think Myles Gaskin is a reliable starting running back in your fantasy team while Malcolm Brown is out? I'll say yes. I'll say that he is because I don't think he leaves the dolphins with much choice. I don't think they're comfortable putting everything on Savan Ahmed's plate.

And I think that at, at worst there would be a 50, 50 split between those two, but they gave Gaskin the opportunity last week and he looked pretty good so I'm guessing it's going to be a week-to-week thing with the Dolphins it's nice that Gaskin is doing good work as a pass as a receiver in the passing game and he's the type of running back where you just need to get by for a couple of weeks you shouldn't have to give up too much to get him. But I wouldn't say, all right, I got Myles Gaskin.

I'm set at RB2, or I'm set at RB3 for the rest of the season. I don't think we can say that about him. And as far as three sell-high potentials I wanted to ask you about, we're three players who are going to see perhaps a significant player come back onto the team or players.

So you have Mike Kosicki, who's a top five tight end. You have Dalton Schultz, who's a top six tight end right now. And Dolphins could get a little healthier at wide receiver. But they have the third most pass attempts in the NFL.

They just can't run the ball. Dalton Schultz. They have a hell of a schedule. Oh, he's got an amazing schedule, Mike Kosicki, after Buffalo. Dalton Schultz, not a bad schedule too, but Michael Gallup coming back. And then Marquise Brown, you know, I don't know how it works out, but Sammy Watkins had seven, eight targets in all four of his healthy games.

Rashad Bateman's had six targets in two straight games. So what happens to Brown after the bye if Watkins is back? Do you guys look at Kosicki, Schultz, or Marquise Brown and say, all right, I think I'm going to try to sell here. We've gotten the best so far. Yeah. Maybe not Brown. I

think Gallup could definitely impact Schultz's target share. I think Parker slash Fuller could definitely impact Kosicki. I'm less convinced that a rookie wide receiver is going to make a big impact on Marquise Brown with the way he's played. It's kind of what we've said about some of the elite tight ends, and I've said it about Mark Andrews. A guy is one of their best players. I'm not sure a rookie is going to come in and negatively impact that in a big way.

Do you have any other buy lows or sell highs that you guys feel very strongly about? Dave does. I do when it comes to Elijah Mitchell, but I don't think we can call him a buy low. I just think he's a buy. I think that the way that the 49ers used him coming out of their buy week was impressive. I thought he ran well. I think their schedule, I think toward the end of the year, I think it's going to be good for them.

I think Mitchell's a running back that you can look at and say, he's my RB2 rest of season, and you should trade for him accordingly. And even after our show yesterday, I moved him up again in the trade chart. So he's ranked accordingly accordingly and he still isn't as expensive as i think he could be especially considering that he's not a passing downs running back for the niners i um i'm gonna you were ready for the he's going to say something he regret oh no i was ready but he froze wow. Wow. God stopped him. He was about to say something and then shut down.

All right. I'm going to, oh, Heath, you're back. You back? I'm here. Okay. We missed everything you said. I feel like you were about to say something that you're going to regret. That's it. Are you ready for the Heath's going to say something he regrets?

I'm ready. I think Jamar Chase is a uh is a potential sell high and i hate to say it but like if you give him a.j brown's career efficiency and a.j brown's basically been the most efficient wide receiver in the nfl over the past three years if you give him a.j brown's career efficiency he loses about 22 fantasy points off of whatever he has scored so far this season his touchdown rate is yards per target it's ridiculous he's awesome he's the number one wide receiver in dynasty i don't think he's a top five dynasty wide or redraft wide receiver that's right he's sixth i would put him closer to 12. okay um i don't want to challenge that

but i do want to agree with you that if you can get a haul for Jamar Chase, kind of the same boat where if you're fighting for your playoff life each week here, you're 3-4, something like that. You should be able to trade Chase to the first or second place team in your

league right now for a couple of very good starters. Okay. I've got a couple of mystery boxes for you, Jamar Chase managers. You can have Jamar Chase, or you can have a mystery box with two NFC West running backs, or a mystery box with

an NFC North running back and wide receiver. I'm not trading Chase for a mystery box. Okay. No, I would have to... What I was receiving to trade... I agree. Aaron Jones and Devontae Adams, obviously. Well, if you want...

I can't think... Do you want that? Do you want the NFC North mystery box? What is it? I can't tell you. You have to guess. It's an NFC North running back and wide receiver, Jabar Chase. Nope.

Heath? Do not want. No. Okay. Probably a good choice. It was David Montgomery and Adam Thielen. All right. Apple podcast questions and emails to end the show.

Java MC says he's giving up hope in his Dynasty League. He's looking for next year. Gives up Dalvin Cook and Russell Wilson. Gets a first-round pick. Oh, sorry. He gives up Cook, Wilson, and Chenault. He gets a first-round pick. Daryl Henderson, Cam Akers, and KJ Osborne.

Ooh, I don't like it at all. Big question mark with those 49 with those Rams running backs. Yeah. The first round pick probably won't be a top six pick because you're giving this team so many, well, you're giving them cook anyway.

All right, let's say, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're an a I'm thinking nay. Yeah. I think you need to ask for a little bit more

than that for dalvin cook agreed from grant witcher dear arthur oswald edward and victor villains i don't know them give me the names again arthur oswald edward and victor Arthur, Oswald, Edward, and Victor. Oswald and Edward are villains from Batman. Oh, they probably all are. Yeah, I think Victor is too. Not sure about the Arthur. I picked up Earths. Now I have him and Pitts. Which one should I trade, Earths or Pitts?

Earths. Cool, okay. hurts cool okay from blakester i play in a weekly draft kings league with people from high school it's two bucks per man a week and i have won it three weeks in a row for a total of 25 bucks per week i'm getting accused of cheating because i have my redraft leagues linked to fantasy pros tool MVP level. It does not have DFS tools. Do I just tell them to kick rocks and draft better players? Yes. Yes,

exactly. You found your way to build a DFS lineup. Stick with it. And this is from LC. I've been listening since 2012. Wow. Great. I give up Chris Godwin and miles Gaskin. I've been listening since 2012 wow great trade

I give up Chris Godwin and Miles Gaskin I get Antonio Gibson and Kenny Galladay Godwin and Gaskin no yeah I can't do that yeah alright emails fantasyfootballat CBS. I.com.

Brian from PDX. Says he has Michael Thomas. He now has to add. He has to drop someone to activate Michael Thomas. Debo DJ more Antonio Brown or Tyler Lockett. Or Thomas. Oh, because he's only allowed to have four wide receivers. Yeah.

So who do you drop here? Got to be Lockett. I think it's Lockett. From Austin, I need serious help at wide receiver. I traded Eckler for Devontae Adams and Damian Harris. Grade the trade. Half PPR. I think it's fine.

I think that's a good return on Eckler. From Matthew, grade the trade. 10-team PPR. I think it's fine. I think that's a good return on Eckler. From Matthew, grade the trade. 10-team PPR. Give up Kelsey and Sutton. This is a tough one, I think. Give up Kelsey and Sutton. Get Noah Fant and Cooper Cup. I like the Cup side.

Yeah. I feel more confident that Fant's going to be a starting tight end than Sutton's going to be a starting wide receiver from gr truck who wins this 12 team half ppr dynasty league trade the clyde edwards ziller side or the damian harris and travis etn side harrison etn yeah i'd rather take two swings at a young running back than one and that's it for Fantasy Football today. Thanks so much for listening.

I need to wish a very happy birthday. Yes. Thank you. Sorry about that. To Lil, 104 years young today. You know, as we've been going through the pandemic, you've heard people reference the 1918 pandemic. She survived the 1918 pandemic.

She worked at Walt Disney World during the grand opening. And so I heard from her friend, Lauren, over the past couple weeks just about what a blessing she's been to so many people over her life. And I just wanted to wish her a very happy birthday. That's awesome. Happy birthday, 104. That is awesome. Happy birthday, 104. That is awesome. All right, good stuff. Great way to close the show.

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