Fantasy Football Today - Trade Talk! Lamb, Kamara, Mahomes, Fantasy Jeopardy and More (11/06 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 6, 2024

Let's go through the trade deadline news (2:30) and then get into our favorite buy low candidates (5:25) as we assess the values for CeeDee Lamb, Amari Cooper, Breece Hall, Aaron Jones and many more ...... Who are we selling high (23:10)? Are we buying into the Chiefs passing game? Should you sell the Lions passing game? What about Isiah Pacheco and Malik Nabers? ... Previewing Bengals-Ravens (35:45) with Chase Brown having a tough matchup and Mike Gesicki set up for another big game. Then we finish with some Fantasy Jeopardy (42:00) and Grade the Trade (51:15) from our listeners ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is fantasy football today from CBS sports It's time to dominate your fantasy league Here's some combination of Adam Dave Jamie and he Morning everybody happy Wednesday welcome Welcome to Fantasy Football Today, presented by Bet MGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. We are going to make some trades. I'm gonna try to make an on-air trade with Thomas Schaeffer if we can figure it out,
Starting point is 00:00:34 because I wanna get Alvin Kamara off my team. I wanna get C.D. Lamb off my team. I wanna get Malik Nabors off my team. I wanna King's Ransom in return. Let's see if I can rip Schaefer off. But don't tell him I said that. Anyway, I'm Adam, Dave Richard and Heath Cummings are here. Jamie will be joining us shortly by low sell high,
Starting point is 00:00:52 grading your trades, previewing Thursday Night Football, which I think is the most excited I've been for Thursday Night Football year, right? Yeah. Let's go. Ooh, I'm raising the roof. You should get the music ready. What, the Game of the Week music?
Starting point is 00:01:04 Yeah. You said I couldn't do it on, the Game of the Week music? Yeah. You said I couldn't do it on a Wednesday. Who said I couldn't? You said that. Nah, you can if you want to. No. You're a bit. I can't break the tradition here.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Well, truth be told, I was going to break the tradition, but now I'm not. Dave ruined that little. Good job, Dave. Way to go. Sorry. All right, let's go through the news and notes real quick. You'll still do it.
Starting point is 00:01:23 And just tell me if there's anything fantasy relevant here. The Steelers acquired Mike Williams from the Jets. The Cowboys acquired Jonathan Mingo and a seventh round pick from the Panthers for a fourth round pick. The Ravens acquired cornerback Tridavious White from the Rams. Steelers got Preston Smith and Edrusher from the Packers.
Starting point is 00:01:45 The Lions got Zedarius Smith and Edrusher from the Browns. The 49ers got a defensive tackle, Khalil Davis from Houston. The Commanders got Marshawn Latimore in a sixth round pick for a third and a fourth round pick. That's pretty pricey for Latimore. T Higgins mispracticed, you knew that. Orlando Brown left tackle for Cincinnati.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I don't know if you knew that but Cincinnati left tackle, Orlando Brown, he was limited in practice and Khalil Herbert could play this week. So really Heath, I don't know, other than we talked about Herbert yesterday on the waiver wire show, but you can talk about it if you want. But then there's also Mike Williams going to the Steelers. Yeah, I, I think it's a very high likelihood that none of the players who were traded yesterday matter. And in any
Starting point is 00:02:24 shape, fashion or form, Herbert would be the one I would be most interested in. I picked up Mike Williams in a deeper league. You know, he can catch those moon balls from Russ, might be if you want to throw him in when you've got some receivers on a buy in a couple of like maybe week 14, you got a bunch of receivers on a buy
Starting point is 00:02:43 and you just want to say, hey, maybe Mike Williams will catch a 60 yard touchdown. That's okay. Okay. And how about Elijah Moore or Mike Williams? Elijah Moore. All right. If I had to carry one through this week, it would be, I guess it would be Williams. I don't know if he's going to play. I don't know if he's going to suddenly become a good player like everybody else in Pittsburgh when Russ got under center, but I could imagine that no one's going to make a beeline for Elijah Moore if he were on waivers in a traditional typical 12 team redraft league. All right, we're going to give you the buys.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Oh, did I say we're playing fantasy few? Did I tell everybody that is a fantasy feud or fantasy Jeopardy? Good call. It's fantasy Jeopardy. Did it again. All right. Playing fantasy Jeopardy? Good call, it's fantasy Jeopardy. Did it again. Playing fantasy Jeopardy. Our categories today are quarterbacks, pass catchers, and famous. Eric!
Starting point is 00:03:33 Famous Eric's today, famous Eric's. We welcome Jamie, hello Jamie. Famous Jamie. Good morning. Good morning to you. CBS Sports Network, we're on three days a week on CBS Sports Network. Check your local listings, which go to your guide
Starting point is 00:03:44 and look for CBS Sports Network and watch us on Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Fridays at 1 p.m. Eastern. But this Friday, we're 1230 to 1 30 p.m. Eastern. So it's an hour long show, a little bit different than what you get here. And we have a lot of fun. It's on CBS Sports Network. And if you miss it, you can catch it.
Starting point is 00:04:00 YouTube.com slash fantasy football today. Just go to the videos tab, not the live tab, because those are not broadcast live. All right, let's get some buy lows. Jamie, you've got some specific buy lows with players that you would trade for these guys, or maybe just one guy, but go ahead and hit me with a buy low, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I followed the assignment. I would buy low on CD Lam and two trades I would offer. I don't know if they would get done, but it would be the Andre Hopkins and Tyrone Tracy and Najee Harris and Cortland Sutton. And I went off Dave's trade chart and I overpaid for both according to Dave. Okay, so you'd give up Hopkins and Tracy for CDLAM.
Starting point is 00:04:37 You'd give up Najee and Cortland Sutton for CDLAM. Dave, is he overpaying? Yeah, but if that's what you, first of all, if you want CD lamb, that's, I think that's the get in price. I think anybody that has CD lamb and as we sit here on Wednesday morning, we don't know what his status even is for week 10. We know that he doesn't have his quarterback beyond week 10. At least four games could be the rest of the season, the way the Cowboys year is going. So I don't think anybody should expect CDLAM
Starting point is 00:05:07 to be top three fantasy receiver CDLAM. If you acquire him with the idea that he might be like a borderline number one fantasy wide receiver, then you should pay accordingly. And a good running back like Tracy or Nagy, well with a solid receiver like Cortland Sutton and whoever you said with Tracy, like that's that should at least make you think about dealing lamb.
Starting point is 00:05:33 So I think that's another, it brings up a point first about trade charts is like you should have to overpay if you're doing a two for one, if you're getting the best player in the deal, then you should be paying more. If you're doing a two for one, if you're getting the best player in the deal, then you should be paying more. Um, so I would do both of those deals and I had CD lamb on my buy low list. I had nausea on my sell high list. So I'm crossing those off, but agree 100% with those. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Now he's a decent sell high candidate for sure, because he's just played so well over the last three weeks. It's hard to believe that he's going to keep getting a hundred yards and a touchdown every week. But this is okay. So this is what I'm concerned about with with lamb. First of all, a note in his favor. I mentioned this on the network show yesterday, but didn't mention this on the podcast. Go ahead. Five games with Cooper Rush in 2022. CD lamb was on pace for 105 yards just under 1300. Sorry, 105, just under 1300 yards and seven touchdowns
Starting point is 00:06:27 and about 10 targets per game. That's very good, I would take that. I'd be happy with that going forward. But the Cowboys offense, it stinks right now. He's not even really doing that well with Dak Prescott, except for one quarter against San Francisco where they just decided not to cover him for two huge touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:06:46 He is struggling, they are struggling, and he's got a shoulder injury and they're almost out of contention and their quarterback is going on IR. So like I think that the, like I said at the start of the show, I kind of want to get Kamara and Lam off my team. These are two guys who I think could be great, who still have a lot of value right now, but who are playing through an injury. Lam's got a shoulder, Kamara has a broken hand,
Starting point is 00:07:12 and whose teams are veering towards not being contenders. What's gonna happen if they're completely out of the playoff picture and playing hurt in the fantasy playoffs? You get where I'm going, right? Like what's the- They might not play. Exactly. It's the risk reward of what you feel is best for your roster. So in the case of the first trade
Starting point is 00:07:33 that I would propose, Hopkins and Tracy, I don't envision myself for the most part starting DeAndre Hopkins on any teams that I feel are in contention. He might. Injuries, continues to play like this. There's certainly a path to him doing it. But just the way that I would look at my roster, I would look at him based on how I acquired him most likely, whether draft or picking up off waivers after he was cut, as not a difference maker like Lamb could be. And Tracy, the reason I use someone like him is he was mostly a late round pick or a waiver wire add. Again, someone that was more of a luxury on your roster as opposed to a must star player. And you're looking at this from a position of strength.
Starting point is 00:08:08 You're not looking at this as a, you know, 500 team sub 500 team. You're looking at this if you're trying to acquire CD Lam or Alvin Kamara as a team that's, you know, playoff bound with championship aspirations. So you know, you want pieces like that to put you at the top. Are those the best pieces? No, because of the way that you're outlining it. But people aren't giving up those top end options, unless they're, you know, have flaws, and these guys
Starting point is 00:08:29 have flaws. So the hope is CD land plays through his injury, produces well enough with Cooper Rush, and that comes back, you obviously have to look at it from an optimistic standpoint, if you're trying to trade for Yes, you do. All right. So Jamie's buy low is CD land, he gave you a couple of examples of what he would do. Heath, do you have any bylaws? I do. And I am still buying low on Breeze Hall. I love the playoff schedule. I still love the volume. He's still touching the ball nearly 20 times per game. I still think on a week to week basis, he has an opportunity to catch five passes,
Starting point is 00:09:02 would not be surprised if he's a top six running back for the rest of the season and I would trade and you could probably get something Breeze Hall and something but I would trade the running back that Breeze Hall is facing this week Joe Mixon for Breeze Hall because of Mixon's playoff schedule because of Mixon's playoff schedule and Mixon still has a buy and Breeze Hall does not. Okay. That's another thing that people need. You make sure you check the schedules by week's hierarchy. When you look at Breeze Hall,
Starting point is 00:09:32 do you try to factor in, you can get his handcuff and that's a little bit of a safety valve? I mean, I think, yeah, he is one of the handcuffs that I would really like to have. And I misspoke. Breeze Hall also has a buy in week 12. Um, because I think Braylon Allen would be awesome if something happened to Breeze Hall. I don't think Breeze Hall is more likely. I think probably if I was guessing, I would say Mixon is more likely to miss time than Hall is.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Right. That's my point. Like, the, like you see see Breland Allen sitting on waivers and you see, okay, I want to try and sell high and mix in and buy low on, on Brice Hall. But I'm going to make sure I get Breland Allen because I know I have that backfield locked up. Yeah. Well, he'd really, well, Brice Hall has a great schedule coming up.
Starting point is 00:10:18 All right. So CD Land, Brice Hall, Dave, who we got by low? By low on Jordan Love going into his buy week. So you can't use them this week, but the manager that has Jordan Love will probably happily trade him to you. And I think you can get him at a pretty good discount right now. We know what his upside is. He should be healthier, and hopefully he plays better when he's not gimpy in the rain against the Lions. I just think that there's so much upside with him compared to like all but 6, 7 quarterbacks around the league. And, and again, the discount is what matters here. So like in a non-PPR league, I would imagine you could give JSN, DJ Moore pretty easily. PPR, I would rather have those wide receivers than Jordan Love so the price tag would move down. Dobbs, Kion Coleman, that's where they are on the trade chart. I've
Starting point is 00:11:11 got Brooks neck and neck with Jordan Love in PPR. You'd rather have JSN than in PPR than Jordan Love? Yeah. Well, okay. I mean, that's interesting because I would, you know, JSN has been pretty bad, pretty like, he's been okay. And I think at least in PPR, you can flex them. I mean, that's interesting because I would, you know, JSN has been pretty bad, pretty like, He's been okay. And I think at least in PPR, you can flex him. I mean, like, I think that what he did last week, does he is hopefully going to earn more targets. Right, but we said that after week two.
Starting point is 00:11:36 Yeah, but what he did last week was different. I mean, he was making plays downfield. He had 70 ish yards called back on penalties. He absolutely dominated. He was absolutely awesome. It was a game without DK Metcalf. So why, but like why? The situation's kind of changing.
Starting point is 00:11:48 So we can't rush JSN up the trade chart. And why wouldn't you give him up for Jordan Love? Who could be a real difference maker? I would in non PPR. In half PPR I would too, but in full PPR, I just think that there's enough value there. And certainly some upside there that I'd rather go for a cheaper piece.
Starting point is 00:12:05 Does, does love have one of the worst starting quarterback schedules left? Um, I did this on, let's see, let me get my, is that at Chicago, San Francisco, Miami at Detroit. Um, who knows what's the, yeah, I've got him graded. I think he's okay in the fantasy playoffs. I've got him 12 from the fantasy playoffs and 17 okay in the fantasy playoffs. I've got him 12th in the fantasy playoffs and 17th. So a little bit below league average the rest of the way. But I also see an offense that is going to be aggressive no matter what throwing the
Starting point is 00:12:36 ball and he's got so many weapons to go to. So even like really good pass defenses are going to have a hard time with love. And I think also, I mean, look on paper, it's not good. We don't really think the Dolphins or the Saints are that good. I don't want to speak. They're not the Saints definitely aren't. Yeah, the Saints are seventh against quarterbacks, Dolphins are third. And I think we're seeing that those are especially the
Starting point is 00:12:58 Saints just traded Latimore. I think we're seeing those are not as tough as they are on paper. Right. Unless teams just run like crazy against New Orleans and then the quarterback doesn't have to do much. It's always a game script possibility. All right, let's talk about BetMGM. If you haven't signed up yet for BetMGM, use the bonus code fantasy,
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Starting point is 00:13:37 Just make sure you use the bonus code fantasy when you sign up. Quick break, we'll talk more trade after this. All right. Welcome back. Did anybody want to have a, don't want to throw in some more by lows? I have a couple more names. Go start with a Mari Cooper. I know that he's hurt right now. We don't know if he's even going to play and his debut in Buffalo has really not gone well save for one touchdown, but I still believe in the talent. And I don't think they acquired him to play a third
Starting point is 00:14:06 of the snaps and to let other wide receivers go off. So I would imagine that Cooper will have some big games ahead. And that's another passing offense that can, you know, they've got a bunch of options. And Josh Allen is good. So it just, it just makes sense. TJ Hockenson is actually going to go off of some of my teams because I need the roster spot, but. I told you. Uh huh. Yeah. It's week 10. There's four teams on by and I've got a lot of teams
Starting point is 00:14:35 with good benches. So he's like the most droppable guy. It's only one or two of my teams. And so obviously if you see him on the waiver wire and you want to stash him, you can. He'll play more snaps moving forward, I still think he's going to be a good fantasy tight end. And if someone has him, and he's a second tight end, you could save them the trouble of dropping
Starting point is 00:14:55 him. And you could trade a bench player for Hawkinson. Schaefer, what's going on here? We're gonna make this CD land Alvin Kamara Malik neighbors trade or what? Working on here? We gonna make this a CD lamb, Alvin Camara, Malik neighbors trade or what? Working on it? What did you just say again? Repeat what you just said. Okay, so it's, I don't know if I even wanna do this. Camara, lamb and neighbors in a PPR three receiver league
Starting point is 00:15:18 for Tyreek Hill, Jamar Chase and David Montgomery. I just think right now it's too much for me trading for a injured receiver because their benches are so shallow. So like I'm trying to see like how to make that work where I don't think it's an awful deal, honestly, but my, my entire team's injured and I have a bunch of quarterbacks. So yeah, the, the, the downgrade from Camara to David Montgomery and a PPR league could be pretty severe.
Starting point is 00:15:46 Like Camara could be scoring 23 or more points every week cause he's going to catch so many passes. But, um, yeah, look, and I think Tyreek Hill is someone that I want to try to get. I don't know how you guys feel about that, but I don't really see why. Like Buffalo is a tough matchup for him. They, they always struggle against Buffalo dolphins too is not throwing the ball downfield. It's frustrating. But do you guys want to go out and try to get Tyree killed?
Starting point is 00:16:10 You still think he's a top three receiver, top five receiver? Yes. No, not three. Maybe five. I don't think you have to put him into a category. Just he's a starter with huge upside. Hey, he's who did the dolphins play late in the year?
Starting point is 00:16:29 No, November 28th. They are at green Bay. Then they have the jets. Then they play the Texans. Then they play the 49ers. Then they play the Browns. Texans are terrible against the pass. What?
Starting point is 00:16:42 So you found one good matchup in the last 49ers aren't like the 49ers aren't something they're not impenetrable. I don't know that it matters for Tyrico. Let's check what he did last year because you were worried about this last year. And he was you got hurt. I had a couple of bad games. Yeah, he missed the judge. Didn't anybody have fantasy championship score? Okay, he missed the first week of the championship. He scored 18.9 points against Dallas and he
Starting point is 00:17:06 scored 13.6 points at Baltimore. But earlier in the year he had nine for 102 yards in a touchdown at the Jets. That was in week 12. So I mean, I know it's your concern of yours. It's worth pointing out. So yeah, it's not a great schedule. Maybe a cold weather game in Green Bay on Thanksgiving week. Maybe well in the Cleveland in Green Bay on Thanksgiving week. Maybe well in the Cleveland games at Cleveland on December 29th. Yeah, and it's a night game, so it's probably going to be like
Starting point is 00:17:33 four degrees and their 27th against against wide receivers. So that's another team that just hasn't really been that good against the pass. Because if you think if I told you that Tyree kill two of his three matchups in the playoffs are against teams that currently ranked 26th and 27th, that's good. On the other hand, one of them is at Cleveland, which is bad for cold weather. You know, for two of all right, Cleveland did just get spanked by Justin Herbert and the Chargers. All right, let me get there could be something to that.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Let me get your thoughts real quick on Brian Thomas, Jr. Next two matchups. The next three matchups are great. Minnesota, Detroit, then a bye, then Houston. Then it's pretty bad after that, at least on paper. But he has three to six targets in four straight games. Do you think Brian Thomas Jr. is a buy low? Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:19 If you can. Would you rather? It's the same thing for Tyreek. Like if you can buy low on Tyreek, you should, but. I'd be sending DeAndre Hopkins for Brian Thomas right now. I don't think anybody's accepting that. Would you trade Malik neighbors for Brian Thomas? No.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Okay. Debo Samuel, do you think he's a buy low? Or do you think everybody feels like he's gonna have a big finish? Do you think? I think coming off a buy that's got an injury tag next to him is probably a by look in it? Do you think he's gonna have a big finish? Do you both Samuel? Yes. Aaron Jones, a lot of touches the last two weeks, not efficient, disappointing against Colts. Got to wonder if he's wearing down a little bit. But six of Aaron Jones, his next seven opponents currently ranked 19th or worse against running backs.
Starting point is 00:19:07 Although a couple of them, the next two have good run defenses. They struggle in the passing game against running backs, but Aaron Jones, the work is there. The production has not been. Do you think we should try to buy low on Aaron Jones? I don't know if you, again, this is another play where I'm not sure if you can buy low on Aaron Jones. You'd have to find a manager that feels like Aaron Jones is slipping. But
Starting point is 00:19:27 you're right, I've got him graded with the easiest schedule the rest of the way. Second easiest schedule in the next 4 weeks, 6th easiest schedule in the fantasy playoffs. It's a great, it's a great slate for that run game. And if you, you could try and say that you'll safeguard it by adding camacres along with Aaron Jones and hope that it all works out. But I think the fantasy manager that has Aaron Jones is gonna stick with Aaron Jones. You're not gonna be able to get them for cheap. Okay, what if I offered you Alvin Kamara for Aaron Jones?
Starting point is 00:19:57 What would the wide receiver have to be to make this a fair trade? I give you Kamara, you give me Aaron Jones and who? Full PPR? Yeah. Give me a second. And I will look it up off the top of the dome. I don't have anybody. I don't want to say somebody that's like it, they're close in the trade chart. So I don't think it has to be a huge wide receiver. Like you're probably overpaying if you throw in Coraline Sutton.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Oh, wow. I was thinking Brian Thomas or something. Because I would do. Oh, yeah you're probably overpaying if you throw in Coraline Sutton. Oh, wow. I was thinking Brian Thomas or something because I Yeah, sure. I feel like the perception of Camara versus Aaron Jones is a big gap. Yeah, I don't think it's that way. Okay. All right And then yeah, does anybody think it's that way? Jamie Heath, um, I don't know It's hard Aaron Jones and versus like Camara you Jones. You'd rather have Kamara than Aaron Jones. What's the difference? If Alvin Kamara is a top five fantasy running back, where is Aaron Jones?
Starting point is 00:20:53 15. Yeah. Yeah, I think he's better than that. I think the general public would agree. Jamie, why no faith in, why, not sorry. Why not a ton of faith in DeAndre Hopkins? Because if I make the case, he's finally, like first time in a few years, he's had a good quarterback.
Starting point is 00:21:09 He's gonna, you know, like, he's just gonna maybe fill the Rishi Rice role and get a lot of targets. He only played 60% of the snaps last week. He caught two touchdowns. I'm gonna give you another stat. Patrick Wilhomes, remember a few weeks ago, I said this guy's been very unlucky with touchdowns. He had one touchdown on 12 passes inside the 10 yard line
Starting point is 00:21:27 in his first six games. In his last two games, he's thrown 11 passes inside the 10 yard line. Now five of them have gone for touchdowns. If I'm sitting there going, finally, this is what the Andre Hopkins needed. This is what we saw. This is what we got.
Starting point is 00:21:39 This is what we're gonna get going forward. At least a must start guy. What's wrong with that argument? Two words, Tampa Bay. And Las Vegas. Well, for Mahomes anyway. I mean, it's not that I don't have faith in DeAndre Hopkins being a potential top 30 wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:21:58 It's that I'm trying to maximize his value right now and trade it for something that I think is better. Okay. All right, let's do some sale highs. Dave, you can start. Patrick Mahomes is a good candidate coming off of a three touchdown game. I think Jamie said yesterday on one of our shows that this was the first time all year with back to back games north of 20 fantasy points for Mahomes. Yeah. He did against the Raiders and the Bucks and now he's taking on Denver next week.
Starting point is 00:22:26 He will have some other tough matchups down the line. And I think he can't help but view him now as, you know, right back as a starting fantasy quarterback. But there are a lot of those. There are a lot of guys that can qualify for that. And so if you can get somebody to overpay a little bit from a Holmes, package them in a deal. Where is he at?
Starting point is 00:22:46 Cause you said a top 12 quarterback. I ran a Twitter poll yesterday and I think it was like 55% of people said somewhere between QB six and QB 12. I've got him. Um, he's seventh on the trade chart. It's pretty high. So you're expecting a massive change in perception. I'm expecting that. You're selling high as a top four quarterback.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I didn't say top four. I mean, you could. If you're selling high though, you got to get more than a cube. I would sell high on the top seven quarterback. Well, I mean, let's talk about if you have two quarterbacks here and you just try to get rid of my homes, get a different position. Is that kind of the way you'd approach it? You first need to find somebody that needs a quarterback and somebody in every league
Starting point is 00:23:27 just lost DAC. And I'm pretty sure they'd take my Holmes. And I don't I don't think he's going to cost you a ton. It's a little bit more than what you'd expect to get for love. Okay, he who would you sell high on? I would like to sell high on the Lions passing game. They've got playing awesome and extremely efficient. They've got an awful schedule in the fantasy playoffs. I'd like to sell high on Deandre Swift. That's an interesting one outcome.
Starting point is 00:24:02 I don't particularly like, it's kind of been this. I guess it's just the story of DeAndre Swift's career. Like it's always been whenever things are going well, it's time to sell. And whenever things are going bad, he's going to make a comeback. And things are going well from DeAndre Swift right now. And so the history of DeAndre Swift tells us that things are about to turn for the worse. It's an interesting point. Now, when you say you want to sell high on the passing game for the Lions, you want to sell high on Amonra St. Brown? I do. I don't like he's, I think wide
Starting point is 00:24:33 receiver 10 for the season. The perception coming into the year was he was a top five or six wide receiver. I don't think the way he's done it so far this year is particularly sustainable. I don't think the way he's done it so far this year is particularly sustainable. And so if you can get someone to value like we you talked about Brian Thomas Jr. What can I get in addition to Brian Thomas Jr. from Amon Rasenbrown? Can I get it? Can I get another starter somewhere? Would you take would you take Brian Thomas Jr. and Tyrone Tracy for Amon Rasenbrown? All right, you're thinking about it. It's in the ballpark. We're in the ballpark. Tracy for Aman Rasim Brown. All right, you're thinking about it. It's in the ballpark. We're in the ballpark, okay.
Starting point is 00:25:10 Jamie, who do you want to sell high on? I mean, I said DeAndre Hopkins. I don't know how much more we need to discuss it. That works. So you guys aren't really buying into the idea that Patrick Mahomes is starting to be Patrick Mahomes again. I'm not saying he's gonna be on like a 5,000 yard pace,
Starting point is 00:25:25 but that he's got Kelsey and he's got Hopkins and he's playing pretty well right now. And I know Denver could be tough, but let's say after that, like you're not- I think again, it's, you know, this is, these are two players. Mahomes, if you're still winning in spite of him, so you probably just ride with him,
Starting point is 00:25:43 but I'm gonna check what his start percentages it's still pretty high it was short-term schedules really good for his start percentage is 85% okay so there's still a small percentage of people that are benching but what I would be looking to do is if you can trade these guys while they're coming off these amazing performances you know back-to-back strong games from a home first time all season best games for these guys while they're coming off these amazing performances you know back to back strong games from a home first time all season best games for Deandre Hopkins since that since that Atlanta game last year with the Titans where he
Starting point is 00:26:12 went nuts with Will Levis you know so you're just looking at and saying okay can I turn these guys into what I would feel as better players you know so if you value Jordan Love more so than Patrick Mahomes and you have another quarterback to get you through this week then you trade Mahomes and something for Jordan Love and something. In the case that I gave you with DeAndre Hopkins like if I could turn Hopkins and a running back into CD Lam I'm gonna try and make that trade because I think CD Lam ceiling is much higher so you know I'm just trying to maximize the value of those guys. If I don't get any trades that are significant where I'm getting better
Starting point is 00:26:43 value then I'm just gonna ride it out and hope that, you know, to what your point is, Adam, that we're starting to see my homes be my homes and he's getting a receiver who's productive and a receiver that's getting a quarterback that he's never had before. I want to get your thoughts on a couple of other players here. First, Isaiah Pacheco as we stay on the Chiefs. Because I've kind of been thinking, man, like, if Kareem Hunt is doing this, what is Isaiah Pacheco going to do? But I don't think I've really taken into account that Isaiah Pacheco is going to be recovering from a broken leg.
Starting point is 00:27:10 And this could be really tough. Not an injury expert, so I don't know how it compares to Tank Dale and Tony Pollard and all that. Those were longer recoveries. And Kareem Hunt, is he doing enough to have a role? But I mean, I just feel like in a world where Pacheco hadn't gotten hurt, he could be a top five running back right now. He'd be dominating.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Right? So what do you guys think about him if he comes back in, let's say, two or three weeks? I think you have to buy extremely cheap because you made a very good point that I do think overlooked a little bit. Like his goal is to get back by late November. He might not be Isaiah Pacheco until the playoffs, not the latest playoffs. Right. January. Um, chiefs are going to have absolutely no reason to rush him back unless something goes
Starting point is 00:27:58 terribly wrong in the next couple of weeks. So I, like, if I'm buying, it's at a like bargain basement, not a starter. I'm not giving up a starter for it. And just like my homes, the schedule is a little dicey, um, more so from a homes than it is for the running backs in the next two weeks, four weeks, two weeks, the next two games for them, little dicey. It's Denver and Buffalo. Then after that it's Carolina and Vegas.
Starting point is 00:28:24 You're going to love those two games. And then it's a little tougher when you get to the fantasy playoffs. I mean, I think we're making the case to sell high on Kareem Hunt here too. Just knowing that when Pacheco comes back, I imagine he gets eased in. I don't think they shovel 15 touches onto him and his recovered leg so quickly in late November, early December, whenever he comes back. So I really agree with Heath. If you're going to trade for Pacheco, he almost has to be a throw in, in a deal. And I don't think anybody that's been holding onto Pacheco this long will do that unless they're desperate for starters now so that they can pick up some wins and, you know, come back from four and five, something like that.
Starting point is 00:29:02 And then I want to ask you about one more player who is, I believe, let me take a look at the updated analytics and, sorry, I'll just tell you who the player is, because this is bad. It's Malik Neighbors. And I think he had like the highest open score on the ESPN wide receiver, any receiver analytics. It's like a 99% open score on the ESPN wide receiver, any receiver analytics. It's like a 99% open score something.
Starting point is 00:29:27 And yeah, so he's open all the time and he's getting a ton of targets, right? He's got 24 targets in his last two games. But in his last three games since the Andrew Thomas injury, 8.1, 14.1, 14.9 fantasy points. A lot of catches, but not a ton of yards. I don't know that Daniel Jones is around for much longer, especially if they lose this game. They're on the hook for a big number if he gets injured, like $22 million or something
Starting point is 00:29:59 like that. It's the same thing that happened to Derek Carr two years ago and the same thing that happened to Russell Wilson last year. I would have had more faith in Drew Lock, but that guy looked horrible in the preseason and he looked awful when he came in earlier in the regular season. And I have no faith in Tommy DeVito. So how are you guys feeling about Malik neighbors? Because I could see case for by low, this guy's getting targets, he's getting open,
Starting point is 00:30:19 and he has a great schedule coming up. And I can see the case for get him off your team now while he still has max value. I'd like to buy low from you. I'm not sure anybody else is as skeptical about Malik neighbors rest of season as you are. Like I think he's a top five wide receiver this week and he's probably, I'd rather have him than Tyreek Hill. Would you rather have him or Devontae Adams?
Starting point is 00:30:44 Oh, rest of season you'd rather have neighbors than Hill? Yes. Do you have Tyreek? No, you don't. I don't. I'll make you that trade if you want in the Superflex League neighbors for Hill. It's a fantastic schedule. And I don't like the Giants are playing against Bryce Young, then they get a buy.
Starting point is 00:31:03 So they're gonna have, Dable gets two weeks to get ready for Tampa. And then you're playing against Cooper Rush. And then you're playing against the skeleton of what's left of the Saints. Like the Giants are winning three of their next four. What a role reversal. Heath has the Giants making the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:31:18 And if they win through their next four, they're not benching Daniel Jones. Of course. Yeah, I don't, they're not gonna win three of their next four. They lost the Cooper rush two years ago. They're going to lose the Cooper rush again. It's funny if they lose to Carolina, what kind of significant changes happened during the buy with that team? They probably, they possibly benched Daniel Jones. Here's one thing I'd say though. I think the Andrew Thomas thing is honestly a little bit of a coincidence. He really, I don't think it said that he's actually, Dan is actually played all right
Starting point is 00:31:48 the last couple of weeks. It just hasn't really happened for neighbors. So it'll probably help if they targeted him in the first half last week, but he still ended up with 11 targets. He did it, but why not get him more involved early on that? That was confounding because they wanted to run the ball, but it almost worked this week too. All right. We'll take a break and come back and talk about
Starting point is 00:32:11 Thursday night football baby. And looks like we're working on a blockbuster trade. Which side which side do you guys like? Montgomery Hill and chase or Camara lamb and neighbors and PPR? What do you think? Chase side. Yeah, don't make that trade Thomas. Oh, come on. I think I like trade. It's a good trade. I just traded Jamar chase to Dave and it made my team way better. So there you go. I don't even sure I want to do it, but we're working on it. All right. We'll be right back with Cincinnati and Baltimore after this.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Okay, it's time for Thursday Night Football. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. All right, Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson are top four quarterbacks, start them up. Let's talk about Chase Brown though, Jamie. He goes from start of the week to borderline number two running back against this Ravens defense. Give me your thoughts on chase Brown.
Starting point is 00:33:09 It's a tough matchup, obviously, you know, and we'll see if he's able to, you know, continue to get the work in the passing game, which I would be surprised if he doesn't just, you know, clearly Herbert joining the roster. I don't think he's going to all of a sudden step in and they're going to trust him to run routes right away. So I think he's gonna all of a sudden step in and they're gonna trust him to run routes right away So I think Brown's a you know a starter. It's a another good week for running backs You know even with the teams on a buy so it depends on what you're looking at and we have I Just hope that he you know continues to come through and and you said you know tough matchup He did score against the Ravens in the first matchup. He caught a touchdown in that game. So I mean for the most part I think you're still starting him as just a matter of you know when when you're looking at a rank list, there are a lot of other
Starting point is 00:33:47 players, I think they're just in some better spots that have, you know, chance to be just as successful. So most weeks, he'd probably ranked a little bit higher, but I'd be starting Tyrone Tracy against the Panthers or chase Brown, Tracy, just better matchup. The grade, there's four running backs that have at least 15 PPR points against Baltimore this year. Two of them are the Bucks running backs who had a slew of targets two games ago. So is Chase Brown
Starting point is 00:34:13 going to get four targets, five targets, four catches, five catches? I don't know if that's necessarily in play. He did last week, right? He had five catches and the Ravens allow the fourth most receiving yards per game to running back. So this is you throw on Baltimore, and that's going to be some catches out of the backfield for chase Brown for sure. But only no running backs rush for more than 52 yards against the Ravens. That's yikes. That's insane. And I know they're giving up like 3.2 yards
Starting point is 00:34:41 per carry, something like that. So very good run defense, only four touchdowns to running backs on the year. So easier to start in PPR. Okay, so he's got a shot at four or five catches this week. That's cool. I don't think that necessarily helps his chances that much of getting to a hundred yards or finding the end zone again.
Starting point is 00:35:01 He's a number two fantasy running back. Would you, I guess we're hopefully we're gonna know something, but if you have McCaffrey and Chase Brown, you might have to start Chase Brown. I don't know, you guys ranked McCaffrey by the way? We did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Okay. He's not a certainty to come off IR, right? Right. No, but the fact that he's practicing and that there's optimism, this is the most optimistic we've been about Christian McCaffrey since mid August. Which is all we were pretty optimistic he was going to play
Starting point is 00:35:28 week one. Okay. Yeah, it's true. That's true. That's true. Would you start chase Brown or James Connor against the Jets? Connor, Connor, Connor, Chase Brown or DeAndre Hopkins against Denver? Brown. Yeah. Chase Brown or Josh Downs against Buffalo? Downs. Half PPR, let's go.
Starting point is 00:35:56 Half PPR, I'll go Chase Brown. I might go Brown and half. Okay. And honestly, if we're gonna pencil them in for four or five catches, I would probably end up taking Brown in full PPR too. Start Jamar Chase and we're not expecting T Higgins. So that brings us to Mike Gassicki. Top seven for all of you. I think top six in full PPR. Gassicki or Pitts? Gassicki. As long as there's no T Higgins. Yep. Okay. Kisiki or Ingram against Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:36:26 Kisiki. Yep. Big Mike. If you want to go read some Jacob Gibbs tweets, I believe Evan. Well, there, there are some weird things going on with Kisiki. Like he's not a full-time player. He's really more of like a third down passing downs. Part of this Cincinnati offense, uh, ran the third, had the third most routes last
Starting point is 00:36:45 week as an example. But it's something like seven, almost eight targets per game in his last three without Higgins and at least 12.6 PPR points in each of those games. And Baltimore's not great against Titans. You talked about that. Yeah. But I was going to say about Evan Ingram, just a little off subject, if you want to read some Jacob Gibbs tweets, I think he said that Evan Ingram's first read target rate went way up in the first game without Christian Kirk. So that might be a sneaky by low at tight end. Sure. Okay. All right. That's it for the
Starting point is 00:37:21 Bengals start Lamar Jackson start Derek Henry is Justice Hill, a top 30 running back this week? Yeah, just outside for me in PPR. How are we feeling about the Ravens wide receivers? There's only one. Give him his flowers. This is an easy game. Say flowers is top eight for you guys,
Starting point is 00:37:41 111 or more yards in four of his last five games. Including against Cincinnati in week five. I think that was the number was 111. Very curious to see what that whole two receiver set with him coming off the field thing was. I hope it doesn't continue. And then how about Mark Andrews, Heath, how we feeling about Andrews? And I guess I'll throw likely in there as well. Yeah. Um, he's back in the being faked in the rankings, um, discussion. I think he's tight end 17 and my projections, I've got him tied in 11 in
Starting point is 00:38:13 the rankings, I'm probably just starting him, but it's entirely like a very, very touchdown dependent tight end. I still don't think he has a game this season with more than five targets. The nice thing is if you're going to be a touchdown dependent, dependent tight end, you might as well play on the best offense in football. Exactly. Five targets is pretty much all he needs most weeks. How about,
Starting point is 00:38:36 And likely hasn't practiced each of the last two days. Okay. We'll keep an eye on that. Hunter Henry at the Bears or Mark Andrews? Henry. Henry. Henry. How about Jake Ferguson against the Eagles or Mark Andrews? Ferg. Ferg. Ferguson.
Starting point is 00:39:00 Ferg-alicious. All right, that's it for that game, I think. Quick one. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, famous Eric's for two, four, and $600. Heath, I'm going to let you have the board. Famous Eric's for $600, please. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Going right for it. He caught 11 to 13 touchdowns in a three in three out of four seasons from teeth. Yes. Who is Eric Ebron? Oh, I'm sorry. Too loud. Sorry, everybody. in three out of four seasons from teeth. Yes. Who is Eric Ebron? Oh, I'm sorry, too loud. Sorry everybody. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Not Eric Ebron. He caught 11 to 13 touchdowns in three out of four seasons from 2012 to 2015. Dave. Who is Eric Decker? Correct, Dave. Famous Eric's 200. Respect his authorita.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Dave. Dave. Who is Eric Cartman? Yeah, Eric, that's not even about it, Higg. I knew you were gonna get that one. That's supposed to be Eric Cartman? It reminds me of Eric Cartman. I would say it's supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:40:16 No, not me. Famous Eric's 400. He is famous for his roles in Munich and Hulk. Jamie. Jamie. Eric Banna. Correct. All right. So it's a 800 for Dave, 400 for Jamie. Heath needs to get on the board.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Jamie, the board is yours. I have the turnstables. Or quarterbacks. What was the other one? I'm sorry. Quarterbacks or pass catchers? Pass catchers for two, four, six. 200.
Starting point is 00:40:44 All right. This NFC West wide receiver leads the NFL in target per route Pass catchers. For two four six. Two hundred. All right. This NFC West wide receiver leads the NFL in target per route run rate at 35%. Dave. Dave. Who's Cooper Cup? That is correct. Tell me where you'd rank Cooper Cup with Malik neighbors, Tyree Hill, all these guys.
Starting point is 00:41:01 He's behind them, but gaining ground in PPR leagues just because of the crazy target volume that he is going to get. Now you can't, you can't lean on what happened last week because Puka punched a dude, but even when Puka is playing, he's got upside of nine targets a game. All right. Dave is at a thousand points. Jamie at 400 Heath scoreless. I'd like to buy a Val Pat.
Starting point is 00:41:23 Dave, the board is yours. Quarterbacks 200. Skipping categories. Wow. These two teammates have the second and third highest off target rate in the NFL. Dave? That is your name? Who are Anthony Richardson and Joe Flacco?
Starting point is 00:41:44 Dave is crushing it today. Those poor Colts receivers cannot get an accurate quarterback. Only Bryce Young has a worse off-target rate than Flacco and Richardson. And it's interesting because Richardson, he throws the ball downfield a lot. It's going to lead to more off-target throws. Not the case with Flacco so much. It doesn't matter until he's playing again anyway. What's left with pass catchers?
Starting point is 00:42:04 Four and six hundred for both's left with pass catchers, four and 600 for both quarterbacks and pass catchers. Okay. Quarterbacks 400, please. He has the lowest intended area yards per pass attempt in the NFL. Eight. All right, fine. Heath. Patrick Malmes.
Starting point is 00:42:26 Second. Ahead of only? Do I lose points if I guess incorrectly? No. Dave. Dave. Kyler Murray. Good, Jamie. Take a guess. Daniel Johnson.
Starting point is 00:42:37 It would be Tuatanga by Loha. Yes, that makes so much sense. 5.8 intended area yards per pass attempts. It was 9.5 and 7.7 the previous two seasons. He's just getting the ball out quick and throwing it short. That's perfect for Tyree. I know, it's gotta change. It's gotta change.
Starting point is 00:42:59 All right, Dave, the board is still yours. Quarterbacks, 1200. Just letting you guys know, you gotta start winning here. We still have 1600 left on the board. He leads all quarterbacks in explosive pass plays per drop back. Heath. Heath. Who is Sam Darnold?
Starting point is 00:43:15 Oh, doctor. You look like you're looking at advanced metrics right now. Yeah, I thought explosive drop backs. Actually, if you read the quarterback preview, you will see that one of the numbers to know is that Sam Darnold leads all quarterbacks in explosive for dropping. Okay, good stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:32 I read it, that's why I put it in there. That's where it came from, right. All right, Heath is on the board with 600. I think Dave has 1200, Jamie has 400. You're not even keeping track of how much I have? Yeah. Are you? No. It's not the easiest.
Starting point is 00:43:45 I'm not the host. I have 600. You have 600. Yeah. Okay. And you have the board, 400 and 600 left for pass catchers. Let's go 400.
Starting point is 00:43:55 This tight end had three green zone targets and one touchdown in his first seven games and four green zone targets and three touchdowns in his first seven games and four green zone targets and three touchdowns in his last two games. That's really random, but um, but it isn't. But it's not though. So three touchdowns in his last two games.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Yeah. And four green zone targets first seven games. He had only three green zone targets and one touchdown. Jamie. Jamie. Coppets. Heath. Heath.
Starting point is 00:44:31 David O'joku. Dave. I don't think it's Kosicki. Cause I don't think he'll be able to touch that. Come on, Aaron Johnson in the chat has it? It's Cade Otten. Good job, Aaron. Cade Otten. And it, Aaron. Kate Otten.
Starting point is 00:44:45 And it's interesting to think about that, right? Because- Give Aaron the point. Who's got the most end zone targets in the NFL? I know I'm talking about green zone targets. I believe it's still Mike Evans. What happens? Mike Evans goes away,
Starting point is 00:44:56 three touchdowns in the last two games for Kate Otten. Just something to think about. It might only have one more game. I'm sick, I didn't get that one. Yeah. Has Evans missed three games now? Two. Two. Okay, so one more game. I didn't get that one. Yeah. Has Evans missed three games now? Two. Two.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Okay. So two more games. But like two and a half. He doesn't have to miss four. Oh, he's not on IR. That's right. He's not. He could be back this week if he wanted to. All right. So Heath, you can tie with this one. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Otherwise Dave wins. These are the top three wide receivers per game in PPR and they are all currently injured. Per game? Yeah. Jamie. Jamie. Chris Godwin. Nico Collins. And... Five. Four. CD-LAM? No. I was gonna guess that.
Starting point is 00:45:54 These are the top three wide receivers per game in PPR and they are all currently injured. Okay. So I mean, I think Nico and Calvin are definitely right. Yeah, I'll let him go again if nobody else wants to guess. Rashi Rice. No. That is correct. However, I was hoping you were going to get it right and say Rashi Rice because you didn't say who is for any of them and I was going to give you the wrong buzzer for that. But the answer is or the question is who are you? Godwin, Was she right? Yes, it is. No, it's not. What are you talking
Starting point is 00:46:29 about? Or she rises averaging 16.2 fantasy points per game. He is like wide receiver 12. What's Justin Jefferson averaging? No, I was saying to Adam, what are you talking about? I know you know what happened, right? You forgot a filter or something? No, I'm using a website that didn't count the game he got hurt in because he didn't have any targets in that game, so. That is on me. All right, would you like to guess? But if you remove that game, he's number one.
Starting point is 00:46:55 Okay, Heath, go ahead. And they go Collins, Chris Godwin, and Justin Jefferson. Incorrect because Justin Jefferson is not hurt right now, so nobody gets the points. What a disaster of a question here. I'm gonna do one more impromptu. For the record CDLAM is six than PPR points per game at 18.5.
Starting point is 00:47:14 I'm gonna do one more here. According to Adam. Yeah, right, according to Adam. He is for $600 dues. He is second in receiving yards at wide receiver behind Justin Jefferson. Um, could that be Nico? I don't know. Receiving yards total? Yeah, you have to buzz in and Heath.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Who is Jamar Chase? Oh, Heath with the tie at the buzzer. It is Jamar Chase. Congratulations. Second in receiving yards. One of our best rounds of fantasy Jeopardy, which is saying something. We'll finish off with some grade the trade here. I've never wanted to play who has more, any more than right now.
Starting point is 00:47:59 Yeah. Who has more, who has more response? Heath, who has more touchdowns? Derek Henry or the Miami Dolphins? Derek Henry. Correct. 13 to 12, I believe. So that was final Jeopardy. No, that was way before.
Starting point is 00:48:11 No, I got that one right 24 hours ago. That was stupid Jeopardy. All right. So yeah. He has to run. So what grade your trades? I asked y'all on Twitter to grade your trades, ones that you've already made
Starting point is 00:48:21 or ones that you're considering. Jewel says, Debo Samuel for JK Dobbins in PPR. Debo Samuel for JK Dobbins? Yeah. See, I think that's pretty even. LFGM. I mean, Dobbins might have a little bit of a nudge because he's a running back, but it's close, close enough.
Starting point is 00:48:44 LFGM says. what's that mean? Yeah, it's a Mets. It's for the bets. Dobbins for Terry McLaurin in PP. God, your language this week is just awful. That's just like the first trade for Dobbins. It's close. I've got McLaurin a little higher. See. So that means you like McLaurin a little bit more than Debo. I do. They're McLaurin and Dobbins are tied in non PPR on the chart.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Benjamin David says, I get AJ Brown and Quentin Johnston. I give up Deandre Hopkins and T Higgins. That's a win. The only reason I won't give it an A plus is because there is this vague knee injury that they say isn't a big deal, but it's something right with with AJ Brown's got a factoring in a little eight. Could we give it just an A? Sure.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Okay. Thank you. From be a fan. F and a baby. Considering trading away McLaurin to get Tony Pollard and Cedric Tillman. Fine. B plus. Yeah. From Nutell. I give up. Yeah, I wish. I wish. I give up Christian McCaffrey. I get Marvin Harrison Jr. and Kareem Hunt in PPR.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I don't think that's enough. I don't like that's enough. I don't like it. Yeah, D. That's almost as bad as Heath's trade in McCaffrey. Which was what? Aaron Jones and Wondell. Wondell.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Not that bad. I mean, listen, if you were not on the other side of that trade, you'd be screaming to the high heavens. I can't believe that trade happened. No, I wouldn't. I'm less confident in McCaffrey, I think. I wouldn't say, I'm more nervous about a flare up. Not so much a workload, maybe in the first week,
Starting point is 00:50:31 but like they're gonna give them the ball. But you guys, these can't stay healthy right now. And Aaron Jones is the picture of health. All right, this is from GS. Gave up Justin Jefferson and Najee Harris for Saquon Barkley and DK Metcalf. C minus. Give me one more time. Jefferson and Najee Harris for Barkley and Metcalf. Yeah, if we were drafting today, Barkley would be the number one overall pick.
Starting point is 00:51:04 overall pick. So yeah, it's, it's about even but Okay. Yeah. Metcalfe is a person I point out that kind of what I said about Patrick Mahomes and him throwing in the green zone and not getting a lot of touchdowns. That is he's regressed to the mean there. Geno Smith might be another guy that could do that. He's another guy who's had some kind of bad touchdown luck. And every year of his career, or DK Metcalf has been top four and end zone targets. This year, it's not even close. So he's just not getting that different system, though. But they're just not throwing that ball that much the ball that much in that area. But I just wonder if some more touch that like for a guy who's leading the league in passing yards, Gino
Starting point is 00:51:43 Smith has, what does he have have like 10 touchdown passes or something? Yeah, it definitely feels like there's there's some positive regression coming in. The offensive line is expected to get a little healthier coming off their bye weekend. For God's sake, can they work on their center quarterback exchange? It's so awful. Connor Williams keeps snapping it over his head, stepping on his foot, like, get this together, man. That's the easiest guy to sort of fix coming out of the buy. Find a new center. Yeah, so you lead the league in passing attempts.
Starting point is 00:52:09 You lead the league in passing touchdowns and you only have 11 touchdowns in nine games. That's Geno Smith. All right, Taylor gave Jalen Waddle and Deontay Johnson Great job. For Mike Evans. Great job. Yeah, that's good. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Jeff gave up Devante Adams and Aaron Jones for Amanra St. Brown and Isaiah Pacheco. I think I like the Adams side a little better. C-minus. And Tony Leaves gave up Devante Smith and Josh Downs for Tyreek Hill. I think it's too much for Tyreek Hill. B-plus. I love it in a 10-team league. I love it in a 10-team league.
Starting point is 00:53:00 I mean, look, you're gambling also. What does Devontae Smith look like when AJ Brown and Dallas Goddard are healthy? Yeah. So that's Devontae Smith. What if the Colts decide to go back to Haley Richardson after what Joe Flacco looked like last week? Devontae Smith and Josh Downs for Tyree Kill as a trade. We're kind of on the fence there. From Alejandro. Brian Robinson Jr. for Malik Neighbors. A+.
Starting point is 00:53:20 I'd rather have neighbors. I would also rather have neighbors. Read some from YouTube here. What? All right. McConkey for Pollard. Yeah, good trade. I'd rather have Pollard.
Starting point is 00:53:33 Yeah, hell yeah. Dobbins for Zay Flowers and Half PPR. Rather Flowers. I would too. Gave up Cooper Cup and Bucky Irving for Saquon Barkley. Hey, plus nice job. Is it really an a plus is cup? Not elite, an elite player. He is, but Barkley is the elite player. He's the elite with a one for the high number one.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Gave up Brian Robinson jr. And Michael Pittman for a plus plus. Oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. Bruce Hall is the winning side there. Easy gave up Kareem hunt and George Pickens. Wow. What a good, that was a great by low for Bruce Hall. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Gave up Kareem hunt and George Pickens for David Montgomery and Austin Eckler. C minus. I think it's pretty close to even. I think right now I'd rather have Pickens and Kareem Hunt. Okay. I definitely would. But look, if Ryan Robinson misses weeks, then it's there. Sorry. Are you guys downgrading Pickens at all with the Mike Williams edition? Not a smidge. Giving up DJ Moore and Michael-
Starting point is 00:54:47 Boy, did Van Jefferson take a hit in the rankings. Giving up DJ Moore and Michael Pittman for James Cook. Love it. Great job. A minus. Yeah, that's a good one. Thinking about sending Gibbs and McConkey for Barkley. Jacob? Yeah. If it's Jacob, yes.
Starting point is 00:55:04 If it's Jameer, I don't know. I don't know. I think it's a fair deal. I agree. I think it's a fair deal. You gotta throw a little bit of something to get Barkley with Gibbs. So that's good.
Starting point is 00:55:14 I don't know if the Barkley manager, did this trade already happen? Or he's offering it. Thinking about, he says thinking about sending. This is the type of trade you're making when you're looking at somebody that lost Evans who has Thomas struggling or Harrison struggling, you know, or another injury to wide receiver. Like it's the perfect move to make. You're giving them something that can get them through
Starting point is 00:55:31 and it's still running back. They can start. It feels like in a three receiver league feels like a pretty fair trade in a two receiver league probably want the Barkley side of that makes sense. Like cause McConkey is, is this number three receiver right? Yeah. Yep. All right. One more. Chase Brown and Kate Otten for Malik neighbors and Tajay Spears. Neighbor side wins. The other side wins. Brown and Otten. Do you think we should be trying to sell Kate Otten before Evans comes back? I think you should,
Starting point is 00:56:07 but I don't know what you're buying in Ty J Spears at this point. Like, you know, when is he going to be healthy? And he's still a backup running back, you know? So you're basically trading a potential league winning running back and a tight end that he's going to lose value when Evans comes back, but how much?
Starting point is 00:56:22 I mean, Godwin's not coming back, so. I guess I'll take it back. The Otten side is higher on the trade chart. Thanks for your trades, everybody. Love to see that you're wheeling and dealing. That's good stuff. You want to talk more trade? Head on over to FFT Express. We'll be looking at the most trading players in CBS SportsLeague. And we'll talk to you tomorrow on fantasy console.

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