Fantasy Football Today - Trade Talk! Players to Target to Help You Win Your League; HOU-NYJ Preview (10/30 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 30, 2024

We give some updated thoughts (3:00) on the Diontae Johnson trade and the Colts going with Joe Flacco. How should we value Michael Pittman and Josh Downs going forward? Then we give our favorite buy... low (12:45) candidates with Zay Flowers making the cut ... Who should you be selling right now (23:50)? Is now the time to get rid of Najee Harris? DeVonta Smith? How much does schedule matter? ... More news and notes (35:35) and a Texans-Jets preview (39:15), Grade the Trade (50:55), Buy Low or Heck No (57:55) and Name That League Leader (1:04:00)! ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is fantasy football today from CBS sports It's time to dominate your fantasy league Here's some combination of Adam Dave Jamie and he Welcome everybody to the Wednesday edition of fantasy Football Today presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. Happy Halloween Eve everyone. Who's in the Halloween spirit? Who's feeling it? Nah, I'm 48. Listen, we're not starting with Halloween. We're starting with your public apology.
Starting point is 00:00:41 Ooh, what did I do this time? You need to apologize for your people. Oh my gosh, those monsters. What do you mean? Those two piles of crap who tried to rip Mookie Betts's arm off last night. What? I mean, obviously the whole,
Starting point is 00:01:02 oh, you see, Yankees fans are the worst thing that always gets me when you base it on like five fans. But these two people, Mookie Betts in the first inning makes a catch in the stands. The guy holds his arm up, tries to take the ball out of his glove. How long did that go on?
Starting point is 00:01:17 For five seconds? I mean, it was dangerous. It was terrible. It was terrible. And I would like to say that I completely disavow what those people did. They don't represent me. Um, I have nothing but respect for the Los Angeles Dodgers and all of the good people who root for the Los Angeles Dodgers.
Starting point is 00:01:33 And I hope we can move forward as a baseball community together. Are you the owner of the Yankees? Why do you need to make a statement like that? All right. We got some big news that we did a bonus pod for yesterday, but I'll get Heath's reaction and Dave's had more time to think about this as well. Jamie should be on shortly. We'll do buy low or heck no, sell higher.
Starting point is 00:01:52 No thanks guy. We'll grade your trades. We'll preview the Thursday night game. That would be the Jets and the Vike, the Jets and the Texans. They've already played the Vikings. Name that name that league leader. We'll do that game and more. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Start with the Baltimore news and then the Colts news. Not the Baltimore Colts though. Baltimore acquired Deontay Johnson from Carolina. Heath, your thoughts. It's not great news for anyone but Lamar Jackson, who looks even just a little bit more likely to win the MVP and finish four points better than everybody else in fantasy football this year. Um, I would downgrade, it's so tough to say where Deontay Johnson was valued at this time
Starting point is 00:02:39 on the Carolina Panthers, because was it with Andy Dalton or with Bryce Young? I think it'd be closer to what his value was with Bryce Young. I'm not cutting him. I'm certainly not starting him this week. He's going to have to have a game with seven plus targets before I start him. I'm not sure that will ever happen. As a flower small downgrade, Rashad Bateman, goodbye. So bye bye Bateman. What do you think happens here?
Starting point is 00:03:05 Cause I, the Ravens run as a percentage, the fewest percentage of plays in three or more receiver sets. Do they stay with that and just sit Bateman or do they start changing their personnel and play three receiver sets? Or does it even matter? I think they will be, is is more multiple. Is that the
Starting point is 00:03:27 correct way? Yeah, like a little bit less predictable, maybe a few a couple fewer three tight end sets, because they like to run a lot of those as well. But it's not going to change their entire identity for Deontay Johnson, a guy that they moved down like, probably maybe like two picks, but 10 spots maybe in next year's draft to acquire. Okay. All right, David, do you want any updated thoughts on this? It's basically the same thoughts as I had last night
Starting point is 00:03:53 and they're right in line with Heath's, but I did do some digging in the stats and came up with this. We know that Deontay was a massive target magnet in Pittsburgh, for example, his second year in the league, 2020 Steelers attempted 41 pass attempts per game. He averaged almost 10 per game, 14.8 PPR points per game. The year after that, even though the Steelers didn't throw quite as much, it was still pretty high. He had 10.6 targets per game,
Starting point is 00:04:19 17.2 PPR points per game. In the three seasons after when he was on teams that a didn't have great quarterbacks but also just didn't throw a lot his fantasy averages sank including this year it's actually a three-year high as we sit here right now both or only in terms of fantasy points per game at 12.0 now he's going to a Ravens offense there's been one wide receiver in the Lamar Jackson era that's averaged eight or more targets per game. It is Marquise Brown in 2021. It's not even Zay Flowers this year. He's averaging 7.6 targets per game. Congratulations to Zay Flowers. He has the second highest target per game average with Lamar Jackson in Baltimore in his career. So I'm nervous, just like Keith is, that the high target volume that we've come to really buy
Starting point is 00:05:07 into with Deontay Johnson isn't gonna be there. It means he's gonna need to be hyper-efficient. I have to admit that it is possible with a quarterback like Lamar Jackson compared to other quarterbacks that he's caught passes from, Bryce Young, Andy Dalton, Kenny Pickett in the last three years. It's been gross for him, but I still, I'm going to stand by what I said. I think he's at best in number three, fantasy receiver moving forward.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Good morning, Jamie Eisenberg. Good morning. Hello. Onto our, you know, I do have a lot to say about say flowers and just what he's doing, but I'm going to move on and I'll just say that he is to me a very unique wide receiver. I don't know that I could compare him to any receiver in football. I feel like he's kind of like Debo Samuel with a little bit. No, I'd say that's the most I don't know if you guys agree with that, but he is unbelievably talented. He is incredible after the catch. He makes the he does.
Starting point is 00:06:04 I don't know. I want to say he makes the most out of his the, he does, I don't know, I wanna say he makes the most out of his targets, but he doesn't rank super high in yards per target. But I was just thinking about that from like a Surtan perspective. Is he, I don't even know if he's gonna be shadowed by Surtan, but that was just for this week. But going forward, he's just so unique.
Starting point is 00:06:19 He's just so different. It's hard to evaluate what this would mean for Zay Flowers, because of the way he gets it done. And he's so, he's explosive, having a real breakout, I still wanna be hopeful for him. I think you guys have talked me kind of off the ledge a little because I was pretty, you know, more concerned when the trade first happened.
Starting point is 00:06:34 But let's go to the second piece of news and the Anthony Richardson thing. And first of all, Jamie, Josh Downs is 79% rostered. Should that be even higher? 100%. And what should the ros Should that be even higher? 100%. And what should the roster should be, Jamie? 100%. Okay, so keep on adding Josh Downs. But, you know, he is, when you look at his profile, his A-dot, his slot rate, he looks a lot like DiMario Douglas, Jackson Smith and Jigwa, He looks a lot like DiMario Douglas, Jackson Smith and Jigwa, Christian Kirk, Wondell Robinson, and then one other guy, or maybe two other guys, Jaden Reed and Cooper Cup.
Starting point is 00:07:13 You know, yeah, I'd say he's in that group. Can he overcome, can he, I feel like we've been fooled. I asked you guys before the show, what's the difference between Wondell Robinson and Josh Downs? And we very quickly said. I asked you guys before the show. What's the difference between Wondell Robinson and Josh Downs? And we very quickly said, Yeah, and you're right. Better quarterback. And then you gave them a leak neighbors things, you know, and it doesn't have to be with leak neighbors. But I feel like we've been fooled by this type of player before.
Starting point is 00:07:37 And every type of player before, like maybe, maybe more regularly, we've been fooled by this type of player before, but I just, I think you're overthinking it. If there's a guy who with this quarterback was wide receiver eight for three games earlier this year, and now he gets that quarterback back, like maybe something goes wrong. I'm not saying he's bulletproof. He's not a number one wide receiver, but I'm starting Josh Downs this week.
Starting point is 00:08:07 He's a currently inside my top 20. Um, and it's Michael Pittman's kind of doing the undertaker meme as well. I don't like him as much as downs, but he is someone that I might consider as a low end number three or a flex. This is just a completely different offensive environment. And it's weird because yes, Joe Flacco is obviously a more accurate passer than Anthony Richardson. He's also averaging like 10% worse when it comes to yards per attempts
Starting point is 00:08:34 because of Richardson's big plays, but it's probably 10 more past attempts per game and it's a 65% completion percentage compared to a 44%. So it might be eight to 10 more receptions per game as well. You might see some of the yards per catch go down a little bit actually for these guys, because there aren't going to be as many deep shots. But it's, it's just a, you can't compare what these guys were with Richardson to what they will be with the fly coat, because it's not the same offense.
Starting point is 00:09:02 Downs gets open. And he's going to get open a lot this week. Yeah, like I'm not overthinking it in the sense that I'd pick him up in every single league if he were available and I would be starting him. So okay. And since you asked for a comparison between Wondale and Downs, I'd like to give it to you. This is Wondale versus Josh Downs. Downs with Joe Flacco as his quarterback.
Starting point is 00:09:21 A dot for Wondale, four yards. Josh Downs, six yards. Yards per catch for Wondale, four yards. Josh down six yards. Yards per catch, Wondale, 6.9 yards. Downs, nine yards per catch. Yards per route run, Wondale, 1.23. Sesame Street likes that one. Josh downs, 2.37 yards per route run. Catch rate, 67% for Wondale. That's really good. Josh downs, 79.3%. Yep. You nailed it. All right. Do you want target per round run rate too,
Starting point is 00:09:47 or do you just want to believe that one out of every three throws from Joe Flacco goes to our boy JD? All right, all good, all good. Listen, you know what else is good? CBS Sports Network, we're on CBS Sports Network. Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, typically 1 p.m. Eastern, sometimes the schedule changes. But flip on over today at 1 p.m. Eastern
Starting point is 00:10:05 You'll see Robert Turbin talking football with Jamie and Heath Friday is me Dave Jamie And then I get kicked out for Katie mocks, which I'm sure everybody appreciates but Tuesday is me Dave Jamie and That's on CBS Sports Network, and it's usually at 1 p.m. Eastern sometimes noon but we'll keep you posted on time changes. We'll do some buy low and sell high, and we'll take a break first. Let's take a quick break, come back, buy low, sell high. We'll tell you who you need to be trading for,
Starting point is 00:10:34 who you need to be getting rid of. We'll tell you what Aaron Rodgers is drinking these days, and if anyone here would be willing to try it, and we'll be right back on FFT. Did you know that across Ontario, utility damage happens 19 times a day? it and we'll be Visit ontarioonecall.ca and avoid unnecessary damages to get the job done right. Data sourced from the ORCGA 2023 Dirt Report. All right, guys, we have some grade that trade a little bit later.
Starting point is 00:11:17 So we'll do it like we did last week. We'll get some names out there, tell you why we like them or don't like them. Dave, you're always prepped for this segment. Who we buying low on? I'm going to start with Zay Flowers because if people are panicking that Deontay Johnson coming to Baltimore is going to be the end of Zay Flowers, I'm willing to take him at any discount I can. This is the receiver who's been the number one target in the Ravens offense to this point. I don't think he's done anything to lose that role. Does he average 7.6 targets per game the rest of the way?
Starting point is 00:11:49 Maybe a little bit lower. The average will probably be closer to seven than eight, but I still think he's going to get volume to a degree, and we know he's explosive. So happy to have somebody like that on my team. So you don't think he loses at all? I didn't say he's gonna lose at all, but seven targets per game, I think is still well within reach, especially for a guy who was already what I say, 7.6 targets per game and the second highest target average from for a receiver in the Lamar era. I, I don't think he drops off whatsoever. whatsoever. All right, let me give you this stat because you'll get the I shouldn't say whatsoever. I think he does drop off a little but not to the point where I at worst he's
Starting point is 00:12:30 still a top 20 ish type of wide receiver. So Lamar Jackson has 34 or more pass attempts in four games. We would take that. We would sign up for that any day of the week. Those four games are three losses and a 41-38 win at Cincinnati. He has 26 or fewer pass attempts in four wins of his four of his five wins. They're five and three. So- They have not had, they had consecutive losses
Starting point is 00:12:59 to open the season, right? Yes. And week three- Who the Raiders beat them. Week three, they beat Dallas on 15 pass attempts. Week four, they beat someone on 18 pass attempts. So they're five and three. They feel like they're eight and oh, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:14 they're so good, but they have a terrible defense right now, the pass defense. But I just want to bring that up because when the Marjaxons thrown a lot, it's been in three losses and a 41 38 win. So, you know, I don't, Denver, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Chargers, Eagles, Giants, Steelers.
Starting point is 00:13:34 There's could be some low scoring games there. I don't know, but all right. Anyway, Heath, give me a by low. Well, first off, I'll just say, nothing changed from last week, but I would still be buying low on Mike Evans if you can. You can go back to last week's episode, spectacular schedule after the buy, and he's going to
Starting point is 00:13:53 be chasing a thousand yards, go get Mike Evans. Also, I've seen a lot of negativity about J.K. Dobbins relating to his yards per carry over the last month, and I understand why. He's got some better matchups coming up towards the end of the season. Two of his three playoff matchups are very good. The volume's still fantastic. Has at least three catches in four of his last five games. I still think J.K. Dobbins is going to be a high-end RB2 rest of season. If somebody's a little bit skeptical because the If somebody's a little bit skeptical because the YPC for life has fallen off, then go buy JK Dobbins. Okay, and Jamie?
Starting point is 00:14:38 Similar to Heath with Evans, anytime we have injured receivers that people are struggling with, so Nikko Collins is one more week on IR. Go get him while you can. So hopefully you're in a league where the Nikko Collins fantasy manager is struggling and Is willing to deal at this point because they're desperate for a win Otherwise, you're probably not gonna be able to get him at the DK if the Nikko Collins manager is Is winning they're not gonna make a deal Similarly with DK Metcalf another receiver who's banged up right now. I'm hoping that he practices week so we could actually rank him But for right now, you know Metcalfcalf is dealing with maybe a multiple week injury. Hopefully not, but again, similar scenario. Try and trade for anybody that's injured and hopefully you get these great players
Starting point is 00:15:15 coming back soon. And I don't know if this guy counts, but I think we're like just a couple of weird things away from happening from viewing George Pickens as maybe a top 12 wide receiver rest of season. Two almost touchdowns in that Monday night game. I think Russell Wilson's looked fantastic throwing the deep ball. George Pickens might still be a top 12 wide receiver and he's on a buy. So if that George Pickens fantasy manager is like, oh, I got to win this week. Go see if you can buy low on George Pickens.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Same thing with you, Samuel. Would you buy high on those guys? Yeah. I mean, he only had 11 fantasy points last week. So I don't know if you'd have to, but yeah, I, again, I think he's top 18 at worst. Someone's saying that George Pickens playoff schedule was awful. So let's take a look at that because I have it right here. With what he's been so far this season. Right. Oh, it's actually not bad at all. Philadelphia, Baltimore, Kansas City, Kansas City might be bad, but Philadelphia is 23. His schedule is pretty good on paper. You know, it's it's actually quite good. So we may need to reevaluate Philly. Yeah, their run defense has really come on strong the last really since the buy. And I think the past defense will be a little bit better too.
Starting point is 00:16:26 The corners are playing a lot better. Uh, yeah, that's a terrible schedule for Naji who we'll get to in a minute. But I think in that instance, if Russ is still playing like Russ, then I think that we'll still see targets for George Pickens. Let me see where I have him on the trade show. He's 13th. Okay. There you go. So George Pickens. Let me see where I have him on the trade show. If you want to give it. He's 13th. Okay, there you go. So George Pickens is a good one. And I'll spoil something from a segment I have later on in the show, which is a name that league leader. He's not, he's not the league leader, but he, but there's a, he's one of them league leaders in end zone targets, George Pickens.
Starting point is 00:17:03 And yeah, he's had some, he's had some almost touchdowns all throughout the year. So, all right, we got- Jamie. George Pickens. Dan. No, I already told you he's not, you lose. So Zay Flowers, Mike Evans, Nico Collins, George Pickens.
Starting point is 00:17:18 I'm gonna throw out Breece Hall as not super low, but I just wanna just give you his playoff schedule. Breece Hall has a Miami in week 14, then Jacksonville, their 31st, Miami's bad against the run. Jacksonville's 31st against running backs, the Rams are 20th, the Bills are 28th. And they struggle, Jacksonville and Buffalo in particular, they struggle in the passing game against running backs.
Starting point is 00:17:41 In fact, I'm going to give you the rank rest of season for Breeze Hall, where his opponents rank against running backs. This week, the Houston Texans are fourth after that, 27th, 21st, 26th, 22nd, 31st, 20th and 28th. After this week, every opponent he faces is currently 20th or worse running backs. Has it mattered for him? I mean, not really, but he's coming off a single digit PPR fantasy point game. Oh, no, no, I'm not saying don't buy low 100% you buy low, but he sucked against Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:18:11 He sucked against Denver. So it kind of has mattered for him a little bit. He sucked against the Patriots. Yeah, he did. Now, listen, I got to point out he's played two games with Davante Adams. He had nine targets. One of them he had three in his last game with Davante Adams. So could he see a smaller role in the passing game?
Starting point is 00:18:27 Yeah, but you know, that schedule makes me want to do it makes me want to stash Braylon out. Sure. All right. Anymore? Yeah, I want to buy low on Devontae Adams because that schedule makes me encourage that it's that won't be a detriment to Devontae Adams. And I'm just as grossed out as everybody that it's two weeks into his tenure
Starting point is 00:18:48 with the jets and he still hasn't had a big game. Uh, Garrett Wilson's look better. Garrett Wilson's ranked higher, but I think that Devante Adams has a chance to still bounce back and be close to that guy that we thought he was going to be. So here you go. What is it? If they flowers, Josh Downs, Devante Adams, rank them rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Adams will be first flower second downs third. It doesn't mean I don't like downs. I just think that right now his value is the lowest of the three. Okay. And by the way, someone asked in the chat, should I trade Kyle Pitts for Nico Collins? Yes. Yes. In a heart. Oh man. Absolutely. I'll pitch for you. Kyle Pitts might be a? Yes, you should. Yes. Oh man, absolutely. Kyle Pitts might be a sell high. I saw something Jacob tweeted yesterday
Starting point is 00:19:30 about his first read targets. They're very low. I think he has two games this year with a target share over 18%. But then I went back and I watched his big plays because he has five catches. Kyle Pitts has five catches of 30 or more yards. That's the most among tight ends. One of them was busted coverage. The other ones,
Starting point is 00:19:48 he's just balling out, I guess, as the kids would say. He's big and strong and physical, and he's making those plays. It's not just total luck. So I'm a little on the fence on that. But in terms of targets and first reads and target share, Kyle Pitts might be a sell high. Any more buy lows before we transition to sell? Well, Devontae Adams, just to wrap up on him, 15.4 PPR points total in his two games with the Jets. I just don't think that that's going to last. DJ Moore has 11.4 PPR points in his last two games combined. I'd buy low on DJ Moore, not expecting DJ Moore to be a top 12 receiver rest of season, but if the Bears need to start getting back toward making things right on offense again
Starting point is 00:20:31 after they came out of the buy so sloppy, he will be a part of that. And then Corlyn Sutton, he's the number one receiver in Denver, right? Yeah. And are they not a good team with Bo Nix at quarterback? I Don't know I He's he's had Bo Nix played so well last week But he's done that sort of before and then he comes back and looks awful the next week, right? I mean there's that Saints game where Coraline Sutton didn't have a catch And Bo Nix's numbers weren't great and the Broncos offense still look phenomenal against the Saints
Starting point is 00:21:02 But I just I wonder if if we're giving credit to Bo Nicks for being, oh, not just a good rusher, but also a good thrower. That that's the guy who's going to get targets for them. I wonder if you're really in wide receiver hell, if he's not the cheapest guy you could go and try and trade for right now. Are you guys ready to call Bo Nicks a good thrower though? No, no. He's also thrown 12 times though. No, no.
Starting point is 00:21:28 He's also only thrown 12 times inside the 10 yard line. It's not a lot. You know, he's gonna run there a little bit. But I like to see if he can back it up after what he did against Carolina. Any more by lows or shall we move on? I am done. Done, okay. Let's go to some sell highs.
Starting point is 00:21:42 But first, if you haven't signed up for BetMGM yet, use the bonus code fantasy. You can still get this offer, a great offer on the BetMGM app. Use the code fantasy and get up to a $1,500 first bet offer on your first wager. Download the BetMGM app, sign up and use the bonus code fantasy. Deposit at least $10 and place your first wager on any game. You will receive up to $1,500 in bonus bets if your bet loses. Just make sure you use the bonus code fantasy when you sign up. Can I start with Heath here? You could.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Let's do it. So hi, Heath. Who are we doing? Well, I'm hopeful that this is going to lead you into the, the Acer stat that we all need. Um, but I've had a lot of people this week already questioning my very low ranking of Matthew Stafford. And I think that I've probably not fully adjusted. I'm going to, you guys, it's going to give you guys a chance to, to, to change my mind
Starting point is 00:22:39 on this, but adjusted enough to the Rams profile when it's Puk Nakuha and Cooper Cup versus when it's not. But that would lead into the sell high of Kyron Williams because he's scored such a high percentage of their touchdowns this year. That's been the big problem with Stafford. He's QB 29 or something on the year. He was QB 18 last year. He had four touchdowns last week. He had Pukka Nakua and Cooper Cup. But coming into last week, they had three passing touchdowns and eight rushing touchdowns. He caught, Tyron caught one last week, right? Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:17 He had 23 carries for 97 yards, five catches for 19 yards. Okay. So I'll tell you what I'll do. I'll take a look at Kyron Williams, the last six games of last season, because that's when Matthew Stafford was on fire, averaging 25 fantasy points per game. And let's see how we can Azerstad here and see what he did. And that I think he only played, did Matthew Stafford play in week 18? He did not. that was the Carson West game. Okay, so the last six games then, all right, give me, oh, Kyron Williams was on pace for 371 carries, 1,949 and 49 yards and 17 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:23:57 54 catches, 286. So the Rams are just the best offense in the NFL. They were, they were, I think, a top three offense. Maybe number two behind Baltimore, I want to say, down the stretch last year. They got into the red zone, into the green zone so much. I'm sorry, this is all off memory from off season research. But yes, the bottom line is, last year they hit their stride
Starting point is 00:24:20 and the Rams were one of the best offenses, almost the best offense in football. The question is, can they, can they do that again? You know, watching Thursday kind of felt like they can. How do you guys feel about the Rams? I'm with you. I think they can't, you know, I mean, it's, it's, it's everything is in place for them. You know, I mean, they need to stay healthy clearly. And you know, you're talking about Cup and Nakuwa and what they've dealt with this season. Can they overcome it? More so Cup, I think, just based on what's happened in the last three years. And Kyron's had some injury concerns as well. But that's as good an offense as you'll find. The good to play colors are fine and
Starting point is 00:25:00 the schedule is fairly favorable. So I don't see why it's not possible. are fine and the schedule is fairly favorable. So I don't see why it's not possible. Sean McVeigh got the bouncy ball and dodge ball into his hand when he got back up in Nakua and his offensive line is getting healthy. And he looked at the rest of the NFC West and he said, now you're all in big, big trouble. And that team is winning the division by the way. And I think they're like five to one to win it. In those six games, because only six games, it's not like these were the only games that Stafford played with Cup and Nakua last year.
Starting point is 00:25:32 In those six games, weeks 12 through 17, they averaged 427 yards per game, which was second in the NFL. They scored 30.7 points per game, which ranked loading, loading, loading. I'm going to say second in the NFL for a second in the NFL behind Baltimore. Do you still, do you still want to, what do you want to get for Kyron or are we just going to keep them?
Starting point is 00:25:56 No, I think well, and that like really, I just wanted to lead into that discussion. Okay. Um, but I, listen, I'm probably going to need to see another week this year. Um, but, and I'm, I think that the really interesting thing is how are they going to score their touchdowns the rest of the year is it's going to be Stafford or Kyron. And the answer is yes. Would you take, would you take Christian McCaffrey and Khalil Shakir for Kyron
Starting point is 00:26:23 Williams Heath? I think I'd, I think I'd take that yeah okay. So where is where is McCaffrey assuming he comes back we're thinking he comes back next week he's RB what rest of season? Because he's not guaranteed to A come back or B play the rest of the season he's only tenth among running backs on the trade chart. And that's in non PPR. If it's full PPR, it's up one spot from there. But you've got a ninth or 10th without the guarantee of him coming back. If he comes back, if he's back, he's top five.
Starting point is 00:26:56 Yeah. I mean, what would it take? Probably one or two games of Christian McCaffrey looking like Christian McCaffrey to have top five type value. He's a great sell high candidate right now though. Why? Because what if he's not right? Yeah, you could get RB one value for him. I mean, I'm not saying everyone would give you that, but you could. Justin says rest of season Cooper Cup or Tyreek Hill. Tyreek. I believe I have Tyreek higher. I'm taking Tyreek. Did you guys think that cup looked good last week? No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:27 I thought he did in spurts, not necessarily like every single time. I think there's a lot of the routes that he runs where he's designed to free up space. We're like, he runs slower draws in coverage and then Pooka is getting the target over the metal five yards behind him. All right, let's move on here and get. I got asked about this trade yesterday. A Chan and Olavi for McCaffrey. I'd rather have a Chan and Olavi.
Starting point is 00:27:51 I would too. Okay, so hi, Dave. Najee, you mentioned the playoff schedule. It's also the first time in his pro life where he's had three straight games with 100 total yards or 100 rushing yards Adam? Three straight hundred rushing yard games for the first time in his career. And listen, I said it earlier this week, the Steelers offense looks just so much better with
Starting point is 00:28:15 Russell Wilson under center and maybe it's given life to Najee Harris, but it's not, it's not something that I would expect to continue. And if there's a fantasy manager who's desperate for running back help, that's the running back that you should try and shove off your plate and onto his, but ask for more than you would have two weeks ago. I have a question. Hand raised.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah, Adam, you in the back. Thank you. In full PPR, would you rather have Najee Harris or Josh Downs rest of season? I think Najee's higher on the trade chart. That probably comes down to just need. Okay, so we value them fairly similarly in full PPR. Now, here's the question because I haven't seen anything in this. Is Richardson benched for the season or is he benched for one game? They did not clarify for the season.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Because if it's just one game, like Adam tried to give me a sneaky trade offer for Anthony Richardson or Dynasty League. If it's just one game, like are we going to go too crazy for the Colts guys for one week? And you know how I feel, like I'm taking the win in a week if I can get it. And I think downs gives you the chance to win a week. But like does the selling, does overpaying for downs or Pittman in trade make sense right now? No, I don't think so at all.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Like it is for me, it's a, it's an ad, it's a start. And I will say just like one thing in Najee's defense, he's running and playing a lot better. It's not just the situation. He has a 26.5% tackle avoid rate. His career high coming into this year was 20%. So he is playing a lot better as well as in a competent offense with a real NFL quarterback for maybe the first time in his career. Oh, fair point for sure.
Starting point is 00:29:59 Tough. I mean, so the thing about the schedule is that it just changes so much, but I'm looking, you go to his player page right now and he's got, let's see, eight games left in the fantasy season. So not counting week 18, the commanders are next, they're 17th, they're bad against the run. After the commanders, here's where Najee's opponents rank against running backs, seventh, fifth, 11th, fifth, sixth, seventh, first. It's probably on, it's probably the worst
Starting point is 00:30:25 running back schedule. It's gotta be up there. But, but these things change. I mean, I did this exercise two weeks ago and some of the players I had is having great schedules. It no longer looks that way. So you don't wanna put too much into it. And I would say, and I say this every year,
Starting point is 00:30:37 like I'm not sure that especially with a seventh or an 11th, you should carol. Like avoid the first, the fifth might be a really bad matchup, but anything in the middle 20 is just gonna change. Just really, really, right, what would you have to do about the difference of a quarter of a point per fantasy game
Starting point is 00:30:55 and they're all of a sudden an average matchup. All right, just one last thing on that. Seventh this year happens to be Baltimore. And- Right, that's a perfect example. That's a bad matchup for him because Baltimore, you might be able to do something in the passing game against them, but against just the run, they're brutal. So well, they are when they're
Starting point is 00:31:12 healthy. But if they're not healthy, we don't know how serious this injury to Michael Pierce is. But if they're not healthy up front, then suddenly it's a good matchup. Well, I don't know about that. But Baltimore, he's got them twice and he is Baltimore in Kansas City and week 16 and 17. But okay, anyway, let's Steelers, Steelers are dead last or at least the running backs are dead last on the fantasy strength of schedule for the rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:31:34 And as for the Colts in the passing game, it's it's Minnesota, Buffalo and the Jets in their next three games. Those those defenses are terrible. I don't know what defense would be good for Anthony Richardson to throw against, but they're terrible for him to throw against. Flacco gives them a chance to win. If they go out and they go two and one in those games,
Starting point is 00:31:53 three and oh, and they're staring at a playoff spot or the division, of course Flacco's gonna play the rest of the season. All right, Jamie, any sell highs? Devante Smith, just knowing the situation, how he's been with or without somebody there. And so, Dallas Goddard may come back soon. I don't know. There's been nothing positive on his reports.
Starting point is 00:32:13 But if you can get something great for Devante Smith, I would be looking to do so. Again, one of those injured receivers that somebody might be looking to sell, you know, so you can wait out Mike Evans. Certainly, if you get an Eagle Collins, you can get DK Metcalf, you know, those are trades, I think they'll work in your favor. Okay, any more names before we move on? I got two more. One is Marvin Harrison, who I deemed a winner
Starting point is 00:32:35 after week eight. But then, like, during the podcast, I noticed, almost all of his production came on deep targets. And what's the one thing that we want more of from Marvin Harrison, shallower targets. And so if this is gonna be the norm for him, where he's only gonna get targets 12, 15, 20 yards downfield, I don't know if he can keep up what he did
Starting point is 00:32:57 in week number eight. So you might be able to sell high on him. And then you can tell me if this is crazy or not, but hear me out, Brock Bowers, crazy target volume. Is it going away with Jacoby Myers back? And couldn't you sell high on Bowers and find a cheaper tight end to replace them with? I don't know if you can still find it,
Starting point is 00:33:15 but if you've already gotten Kate Otten or, you know. Gotten Otten? Yeah, exactly. Or who else? Like if you have Bowers and another start worthy tight end. Craft. Craft's got to make you a little nervous though, right? Well, I'm not saying that you're getting the same performance or feeling as comfortable,
Starting point is 00:33:36 but if you're getting a superstar for Brock Bowers and you're still pivoting to Tucker Craft, like I'd be doing that. And I think a fantasy manager who's relying solely on Tucker Kraft or a tight end like that would be interested in upgrading to Brock Bowers and they might overpay to do so. Okay. All right. Let's, uh, let's move on here and give you just the rest of the news and notes. Aaron Rogers is drinking cayenne pepper and water. Would any of you be willing to try that? I think I have tried that.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Oh yeah, I wouldn't do it. I tried. Is it like a weight loss thing? He says it's keeping him feeling younger. One of his teammates has recommended it to him. It's supposed to give you energy or something like that. If you want, I'll give it a shot right now. I'm sure I can find some cayenne pepper in the house.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Yeah, yeah, I'd love to get your thoughts. Joe Flacco starting for the Colts. Jerry Jones doesn't want Dak Prescott to run because let's go ahead and mute Dave as he takes his headset off there. Joe, yeah, anyway, it's not Joe Flacco. Jerry Jones. You see how Dave serves his salads at fancy dinners.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Oh, the salad bowl's there, yeah? Jerry Jones doesn't want Dak Prescott to run because of fear of injury. We just talked about this yesterday. I think, oh, it was on, we talked about this on Monday. I'm being on the box score. Dak Prescott is not running. Daniel Jones is going to start this week for the Giants.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Running back news, according to Jordan Schultz of Fox, Carolina has no plans to trade Schuba Hubbard. Wide receiver news, Jameson Williams could face weapons charges. They're reviewing the case. He was pulled over with his brother, I believe. He was in the passenger seat. They had guns.
Starting point is 00:35:15 You can read about it. Gabe Davis should be fine, according to Doug Peterson, and Brian Thomas also has a chance to play at Philadelphia this week. Stefan Diggs out for the season with a torn ACL. The Vikings acquired left tackle Kam Robinson from Jacksonville and Robinson hasn't really had a very good year.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Hopefully he's an upgrade over whatever they were going to replace Christian Darasaw with. It's a great move. Yeah, probably a downgrade for Jacksonville though because whoever they had behind him was probably worse. I think they just benched him. Well, they had him. They're playing him. Yeah, they benched him.
Starting point is 00:35:48 They moved Walker Little to left tackle. Yeah, so he's not having a great year. It didn't work out for Jacksonville. And for Houston, they're playing Thursday night. Couple of injuries to keep an eye on here. Jimmy Ward, their safety, Aziz Alshayar, their linebacker, they were limited in practice. These are pretty key players on their defense. Not guaranteed to play, but we'll keep an eye on them. And that brings us to Thursday Night Football, but Dave's not here to do the song. So instead, why don't we take a quick commercial break and we will come back and talk about Monday Night Football, Thursday Night Football, Thursday night, yep, Thursday. And then we'll get into your trades and some more
Starting point is 00:36:23 questions after this. Very excited to talk about the YouTube poll that people are voting on. But before we do that, it is time to preview. Oh, wait, Dave's mic is muted. Let's unmute him. Dave, can you unmute yourself or do you need me to do it? Uh, OK, he's unmuted. David, it is time for Thursday Night Football. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
Starting point is 00:36:47 Houston is at the Jets. What are we thinking here, Jamie? High scoring game, low scoring game, medium scoring game, what are you thinking? Let's go medium scoring. Who do you like in this game, Jamie? I like Joe Mixon. I like Teng Del. I like Tankdale.
Starting point is 00:37:07 I like Garrett Wilson. I like Breeze Hall. You like Tankdale, I think a lot more than the other guys. Now I know the Tuesday rankings aren't necessarily the most set in stone. So I don't know if anything's gonna change, but. Not the most set in stone, they are not set in stone. Yeah, I was gonna say
Starting point is 00:37:25 the word reliable but that felt mean so they they change a lot throughout the week or they change a little but tank dell was one that really stood out because look people are gonna start joe mixin you're probably you're almost certainly gonna start brice hall but although he is like 10th ish for jamie and heath i think he's top five for Dave. But for Tank Del, that's a big difference in ranking here. So Jamie make the case for Tank Del, you have him 18th I believe, and the other guys have him closer to 30 or 36 or so. I dropped him, I think he's like 25th now.
Starting point is 00:37:57 But I mean, look, he's gonna get fed targets. There's no other way around it. It's not like we're gonna see Xavier Hutchinson and John Metchi and Robert Woods be the focal point for CJ Stroud. It's a lot of hope that he's going to do something with his targets, but it's their most reliable threat at this point. I don't think you're going to see Saas Gardner follow him, and this is still a beat up secondary. I'm not necessarily running away from Tanktel here, but he's not a slam dunk mustard guy.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I think he's a great match. The last one to be outscores Devontae Adams at this point. I mean, that's not a big stretch. Currently the worst matchup for wide receivers, right? I believe the Jets, in terms of PPR fantasy points, have given up the fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. I have them as a second fewest, but it's probably super close.
Starting point is 00:38:45 I have no idea who's. Have they been in the last three weeks? Because I think their defense changed considerably when they fire Robert Sala. So the last couple of weeks, George Pickens had a massive game. And then they played the Patriots and then they played the Patriots. I always look at have the Patriots twice in that stretch, you know, both times with Jacobi reset, have any good receivers struggled against the Jets?
Starting point is 00:39:08 And the only answer I have there would be the Niners guys in week one. Um, so. Well, but Khalil Shakir has been at least as good as Tankdale. Yeah, I'm not saying they're a good matchup. He's clearly had two for 19. Josh Allen through what? Like 19 passes that game or something. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:24 And obviously different roles. Look, it's a good opportunity for Dengtel for Dengtel for take Dell to do it. You know, he can as a number one wide receiver. So I get that. And I like them as a flex. I do want to caution though. I don't think this is the same type of guy that he was as a rookie. So what I mean by that is he's not as explosive. He has one target this year of 25 or more air yards and he did not catch it. He has six explosive catches this year, none going for more than 23 yards. So we're hoping for volume. We're hoping for opportunity.
Starting point is 00:40:02 And could he get eight targets and have a six for 75 type game? Could he score on top of that? It's all possible. And that's why in a three receiver league or two wide receivers in a flex? Yeah, he's a consideration. Okay, so would you start Dank Tell? Or Amari Cooper? No, I think I have Cooper higher. I think I have Cooper higher. I think I have Cooper higher. Buffalo is that Miami is against Miami.
Starting point is 00:40:28 By the way, I was wrong about Josh Allen against the Jesse through 25 passes. The 19 past temps were against Miami. Would you start Tank Dell or Darnell Mooney against Dallas? Uh, I have to double check, but I think I have Mooney higher. Would you start Mooney or Devante Adams? Adams. Okay. Sorry. I'd have to double check, but I think I have Mooney higher. Would you start Mooney or Devante Adams? Mooney. Adams. Okay. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:40:48 We'll do tank Dell, tank Dell or Nick Chubb against the chargers. Oh, format. Would I, would I even start Dell over Chubb in non PPR? I think I might. Wow. I love Nick Chubb and non PBR. Come on. What do you have 16 carries last week against?
Starting point is 00:41:08 Yeah, I know. It's probably an overreach to say Dell over child change it to look. Okay. I think Chubb has a better chance to score than Dell. But as far as yardage goes, I don't know. I don't know if Nick Chubb has that big breakout game against the I've actually got job higher in all three formats. So any interest in a quarterback in this game Rogers or Stroud? Not really on the injuries for the Texans, Rogers could be a low end starter, but not as slammed up. No, I've got Rogers borderline,
Starting point is 00:41:35 borderline top 12. I start black over. No interest in Stroud. I've got Baker over him, Winston over him, flack over him, Justin Herbert currently over him. I don't know if I'm going to keep it that way, but that's the range that we're looking at. He's going to be outside the top 15, so we'll strap. Okay. It's a good matchup.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I mean, they're giving up the eighth most fantasy points to the quarterbacks. They're struggling defensively. We will keep an eye on those injuries. This is the Texans I'm talking about, but you guys are not super jazzed about it. And then we'll get to Devonta Adams in a moment and Garrett Wilson for that matter. But just Dave, give me, who are some players that, oh, you actually are the highest on Breeze Hall, sorry.
Starting point is 00:42:13 But I moved him down a little bit, but it's just, it's a short week. It's a good opportunity for him to do work both in the run game and the pass game. If he had scored last week, there'd be no trepidation whatsoever as far as Bree Bruce Hall, everybody's starting in Bruce Hall anyway. Yeah. All right. Fair. Okay. And then, um, yeah, Jets wide receiver. Oh, uh, before I forget, let me tell you what the Texans receivers did with Stefan Diggs off the field last week, because you might be surprised at who led
Starting point is 00:42:46 them in targets. It was John Meche. Yep. Three catches for 29 yards on four targets. And then you had Robert Woods, Tank Dell with two targets. You had Dalton Schultz and Cade Stover with one. So Meche is the slot guy now and deep league guy. I think he'll be the slot guy. They were mixing and matching him and somebody else like it might have been Hutchinson in the slot. So the story I read yesterday was that Hutchinson is going to stay as the third receiver when Nico is back. So my guess is that his long-term appeal if there is something for deeper know with with digs being out is probably the safest I would think in the short term though. Metchi benefits Maybe the most just based on how he played last week met
Starting point is 00:43:31 she was also the recipient of a of a target on a broken play where Stroud actually avoided pressure and then still made something good happen for a change and it was like a 20-something yard play Last week and that's why he had what he had. Like his, his stat line would have been even worse without that play. It was a bit terrible. All right. So now let's talk about Garrett Wilson and Devontae Adams and Heath, give me your thoughts here on these guys against the Texans who are 22nd against opposing wide receivers. Yeah, I'm pretty much viewing Garrett Wilson as a must start wide receiver again. He's just inside of my top 12.
Starting point is 00:44:03 You're probably starting Devontae Adams as well. He's at the bottom of my wide receiver twos. I think wide receiver 21 right now. Probably starting both of these guys. And that's kind of why I think Rogers is a borderline starter. Jamie. I agree. I mean, I think you just look at,
Starting point is 00:44:22 Adams is based on hope at this point. You know, I mean, there's there's no real okay He's going to do this the matchup is definitely favorable, especially if those guys still stay out But I mean he's clearly been leaning on Garrett Wilson You got two touchdowns in two games since Adams been there for Conklin And he you know seems to be a red zone threat for Rogers That could also be dependent on Alan Lazard's absence, you know So he missed last week's game with a chest injury, probably not going to play again this
Starting point is 00:44:47 week as well. So I think if you're the Adams fantasy manager, it just depends on what you're comparing him to. And so I think he's ranking, I have him ranked in a similar range, a little bit lower, but similar range. Like I said, it wouldn't surprise me if Dell is better just based on volume. So I would start Cortland Sutton over Devonte Adams this week. I would start Jacoby Myers Devontae Adams this week. I would start Jacobi Myers over Devontae Adams this week.
Starting point is 00:45:07 You know, so two guys that were clearly not in the same range with him from a draft perspective. And then I would start both culture receivers over Devontae Adams this week, just based on Joe Flacco and the matchup against Minnesota, which is the best matchup on the table. So, um, you know, I, I don't, I don't love Devontae Adams, but clearly there's, there's still plenty of potential and plenty of upside that at some point is
Starting point is 00:45:24 going to click and hopefully this is the week. Okay. Any interest in the tight ends in this game? They're both desperation plays. You know, again, Conklin did not do very well from a yardage perspective last week. He's getting four targets in each of the last two games, but he has scored twice. And so that's kind of, I think, where you land with him is that if he scores, you'll be okay.
Starting point is 00:45:46 If he doesn't score, you're probably going to be largely disappointed. Schultz has been extremely disappointing, but this is now his best opportunity. It's been one game without Tankdell. It's been three games without Nico Collins. And now it's going to be one game without Stefan Diggs and Nico Collins. So will he finally deliver? I don't know. I think he's a mid-range a mid range number two tight end.
Starting point is 00:46:06 That's better in tight end premium leagues. Or if you're just again, completely desperate three weeks ago, we would have been a lot more interested in Dalton Schultz because tight ends weren't as good as they are now. So I don't know how many people are that desperate for a tight end, but in PPR he could have five catches. So this, this is one of those guys we talked about on Tuesday. So I would not be surprised if he's better than TJ Hawkinson and Hawkinson
Starting point is 00:46:27 first game back and given the opportunity, but I would be dropping Schultz to carry Hawkinson. Okay. And then I'm just going to finish it with a couple of things here. Let me go do some Devante Adams or's Devante Adams or Rico Doudel at Atlanta. Adam Adams was close for me. Devante Adams or JK Dobbins at Cleveland Atlanta? Adams. Adams was close for me. Devontae Adams or J.K. Dobbins at Cleveland? Dobbins.
Starting point is 00:46:49 Dobbins. Dobbins. Devontae Adams or Chase Brown against the Raiders? Chase Brown. I do love that man. I love him this week. Yeah. Oh, do you, Jamie?
Starting point is 00:47:01 Okay. Oh, yes I do. Do we like the DSTs in this game is my last question. Donate them. Jets, yes. Yes. Right. Texans, maybe. And finally, what is the theme song
Starting point is 00:47:15 for Thursday Night Football? Na, na, na, na, na, na. Yeah. All right, that's it. Okay, YouTube poll. Which, what is it? Which FFT member would most likely survive a horror movie? So I don't know who won, but I know who's last.
Starting point is 00:47:33 We know both. I know who's second to last. I am definitely last and I got way too much vote here, 13%, there's no chance. Now, if you wanna say that I've watched the most horror movies and that gives me an edge, you'd be wrong. I have, but that wouldn't give me an edge. I'd be the first to die.
Starting point is 00:47:49 Dave is second to last at 18%. Jamie at 28%. Heath at 41%. This was my vote. So I do feel good about it. I did see a lot of people in the chat saying the killer always survives. So that's why they voted for me.
Starting point is 00:48:02 So. That's great. I have the handbook on how to survive the zombie apocalypse though. Oh, that's why they voted for me. So that's great. I have the handbook on how to survive the zombie apocalypse though. Oh, that's true. You do have the insider info there. I'm out. Here's some grade the trade.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Oh, Heath has to run as another obligation here. Grade the trade and other questions. You can email us by the way at fantasyfootball.cbsi.com. Fantasyfootball.cbsi.com. That's the letter I. Andrew's in a three receiver league give up Metcalf and Jacobs. Get Nico and McCaffrey. Oh love it. Yeah I mean it's 200 receivers right now. I don't know his record is oh he's in fourth place fourth place. Yeah it's fine
Starting point is 00:48:40 yep you might be in fifth place pretty, but you might also be in first place by the time we get to week 14. Just to say this though, we don't know the timeline on Nico Collins. We don't know that he's coming back after four game absence. So the last update we have on our site is trending in the right direction to return.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Okay, good. I thought I was supposed to be the one to take home. I don't know who that's from, so I don't wanna say the source, but So I don't want to say the source, but it is on our site, on his player page. And again, Metcalf may play this week, but there's no guarantee. So they both might not be back until the same time.
Starting point is 00:49:14 From Doug in New Jersey, give up Trey McBride and Tank Del in a half PPR league. I have Pitts and Hockenson. Give up McBride and Tank Del, get Debo Samuel. It's probably close to even on the chart. It was tight end is Hawkinson and what else did he say? Pickens? Pits, pits and Hawkinson at tight end.
Starting point is 00:49:36 So he's good at tight end. He's, he's trading McBride and Del. I like more than Debo right now. Yeah. I would try to get a little bit better than that. And if you can't then Debo's okay. Yeah. Jacob, if you heard on Monday, Jacob kind of thinks Debo is now. Yeah, I would try to get a little bit better than that. And if you can't, then Debo is okay. Yeah, Jacob, if you heard on Monday, Jacob kind of thinks Debo is going to be an absolute star rest of season.
Starting point is 00:49:50 We talked about him maybe as like a top six wide receiver. He definitely has a healthy. He has a potential to. I just wonder what this injury like what is he actually dealing with? You mean the pneumonia thing or the oblique thing? Oblique. From Colin, should I trade Bijan Robinson and Kyron Williams for Cooper Cup, Malik Neighbors and Christian McCaffrey?
Starting point is 00:50:18 Yes. Okay. From Ben, I traded Cooper Cup and Calvin Ridley for Marvin Harrison Jr. and DK Metcalf. One more time, please. Traded Cup and Ridley for Marvin Harrison Jr. and Metcalf. That's awesome. What's the difference between like Cup and Metcalf? I think Metcalf has more Smash games in them than cup. Wow. That surprises me because I feel more comfortable assuming Metcalf's knee injury is okay about his health long-term.
Starting point is 00:50:52 Yeah. All right. So you guys, I don't, I don't think I think their production will be somewhat similar. I mean, if cup is a hundred percent healthy cup would be the, the better player, but it's just, will he stay healthy? And is anybody ready to believe that what we saw from Ridley last week will be the norm? No, he's just a throwaway thing and is anybody ready to believe that what we saw from Ridley last week Will be the norm. No, he's just a throwaway thing. I don't think he's a throwaway It's three straight games with like eight or nine targets and I'm encouraged we gave this stat on the network show yesterday Eleven something yard a dot for Ridley season low his season a dot is higher than Rashad Bateman's. It's like 17 or 18 yards It's insane. It's unsustainable.
Starting point is 00:51:26 They need to use him differently, stop being morons about it. Now, unfortunately, that might be a Will Levis thing because Will Levis likes to throw the ball deep, but no receiver is good with a 17 yard a dot, not consistent. It's also the first game without Popkin, so that's the positive.
Starting point is 00:51:40 I don't think he's a throw. I mean, obviously he's the worst receiver in the deal, but actually, yeah, I obviously he's the worst receiver in the deal. But actually, yeah, I'm trying to talk myself into a bylaw on Calvin Ridley. If people think he's just a throw away. Right. I think he's a number three receiver. He could be. Oh, he's definitely in a number three receiver conversation, but you're talking
Starting point is 00:51:58 about three superstars here. Oh, yeah, I know. He's the worst in this deal. All right. this is from Alan. He said, this is shopping cart etiquette 101, 201, and 301. 101 is return the cart to the cart return area. 201, return it to the cart return area and interlock it with at least one other cart. 301, return it to the cart return area, interlock it with another cart, then interlock all the carts so they're all ready to go. I usually operate at the 301 level, but I'm an empty nester with no kids or grandkids to keep track of, so I have no criticism of those who just hit the 101 mark. If you're 301,
Starting point is 00:52:35 you better be getting a check from the grocery store. I was going to say, you're an employee. Yeah. You're honestly like doing their job. It's almost rude to just do the other person's job to that degree. But 201, I think, is something I kind of try to do. I think it also depends. There's some still, and there's some that are new, at least where I live, some smaller supermarkets that are popping up, where they don't have the same level of employees, let's say, like Publix for us, where there's a lot of people that work there. Like you might be doing them a favor if that's the case,
Starting point is 00:53:09 if it's not many people. But in the case of most like big supermarkets, like let the kids do their job. Yeah, let them cook. But if you wanna do my notes for me for the week nine games, let me know Alan. And this is from Joe Bro. How, with the trade deadline coming up, I'm not sure if he's
Starting point is 00:53:27 talking about fantasy or reality. How important is keeping depth? I have many good players that will be on my bench. He's in a 10-team league by the way. I think he's talking about fantasy. Yeah, because that's not really coming up. I guess it's... It is. Next week, week after. Usually as you get closer to Thanksgiving, fantasy trade deadlines happen. It's coming up. I always do Thanksgiving week. Should I be trying to, okay, summarize the question. Do you try to keep your bench depth or consolidate for stars? I prefer to consolidate for stars for two reasons. Number one, they're stars. And number two, it makes for easier lineup decisions when you get to the
Starting point is 00:54:05 fantasy playoffs. You can cultivate depth with the waiver wire. Like right now, Cedric Tillman, I don't know if we're ready to crown him as, you know, a league winner or number two wide receiver or anything like that. But like that's a guy that can add depth to your team. You'd happily start him if you're without Stefan Diggs this week. And you just picked him up off the waiver wire. start them if you're without Stefan Diggs this week and you just picked them up off the waiver wire. So 10-team league you want stars 12-team league 14-team league you obviously want a little bit more depth because the waiver wire is not going to be as accessible to help you down the stretch. I think in the case of also 10-team leagues depends on how many bench bots you have. I mean I play
Starting point is 00:54:39 in two 10-team leagues like think of least two where one has a six-person bench one has an six person bench. One has an eight person bench, the 10 team league with an eight person bench. You have both, you have stars and you have, you know, a lot of depth in the case of, you know, most people it's usually a six person bench. So you want to try and turn some of those, you know, middle tier players that are certainly great starters or solid starters into some stars. And especially like, if you're lucky enough to be avoiding injuries,
Starting point is 00:55:05 they're probably going to come back to bite you at some point. But you may be able to take somebody's best player and give them two starters that they can need right now. So in a 10 team league, it's a lot easier to get away with not having great players on your bench if you can turn them into, you know, top five players, their respective positions. All right. Here's a little by low or heck no. From the Twitter audience, by low on Nick Chub little buy low or heck no from the Twitter audience.
Starting point is 00:55:26 Buy low on Nick Chubb. Buy low or heck no. Very low, yes. Agreed. What's your hesitation? Like if you turn, if you can turn a receiver needy team and give them Cedric Tillman for Nick Chubb, that's a great trade. And I think you'd have to give up more than that in trade for Nick Chubb. But what's your hesitation?
Starting point is 00:55:46 If I said to you, Nick Chubb just got 16 carries, he's dominating the running back touches, we certainly expect this offense to be better now. Why wouldn't I? I don't expect Nick Chubb to be like five yards per carry, but why wouldn't I want Nick Chubb on my team? Why isn't this the most obvious bylaw in fantasy? Because have you seen any evidence through two games of him being explosive? Like physical? Yes, we've seen that.
Starting point is 00:56:10 And that's great. But like, as can he can he break away? Have we seen a lot of like 10 yard runs from him? I'm genuinely asking. I don't think we saw it in the first game. I don't know. I don't know. I haven't watched his tape. I think Dan watched it. See, Dan watched it said see. Dan watched it, said he was impressed. Like he doesn't look like as explosive, but the vision he said is unparalleled vision. I believe that.
Starting point is 00:56:31 I also believe that now that Jameis is under center, this coaching staff will have the confidence in calling more pass plays. And that's what Ken Dorsey got fired for in Buffalo, by the way, and he's calling the plays now in Cleveland. They'll still run the ball. But if he gets like pretty much every carry. All right. All right. So you're also doing this to be fair with Jerome for her, not that Ford is going to be
Starting point is 00:56:53 that much of a diva to maker, but I think they probably feel more comfortable with Ford as a change of pace back as opposed to Deontay Foreman, who's more of a Nick Chubb type of runner. All right. Julio Pena says by low on Travis ETN and a BLT is the most versatile sandwich. You can have it at any time of the day. He's right on the BLT. Yeah. Uh, if you can, yeah, you should be able to try and finagle ETN off somebody's team for cheap. It's, you're hoping that he actually like plays again. I don't know. I just don't know what team he'll do it on. I'm not making any ETN offers. What is his role going to be 10
Starting point is 00:57:32 carries for three, four catches? That's not terrible. No, it's like a total bust to me. It could be as simple as him starting to break away on some key runs. And all of a sudden Tank Bigsby is a role player again for the Jaguars. Okay, that's the thing. Like ETN hasn't been good to begin with, right? He's been fine some weeks, but why would they,
Starting point is 00:57:54 why would he make Tank Bigsby a role player when it just- Because if he comes back and he's healthy and he's spry and the Jaguars- Bigsby seems like the better rusher, doesn't he? Bigsby's not going away. There's no way. I didn't say he's going to get benched, but it's not going to be it. I'm saying in this imaginary world where Etienne comes back and he's explosive.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Then he could be the one a when they came off the Houston game where Bigsby had seven for 90, that was when the thought was. Bigsby is going to be there running downs guy and ETM was going to be the pass down guy. And then ETM got hurt soon thereafter. And they both, yeah. David says, trying to buy low on Isaiah Pacheco. I think with even how good Kareem Hunt has been, it's hard to see him not get his role back or almost fully back. I like it. You just have to do it at a dirt cheap price. Like of all the players that we talked about in this segment, he's he should be had for the lowest amount.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Check. Oh, yeah. No story. Oh, look at this. Injury update on as a Pacheco. Okay, I'm gonna go read this article and get back to you. Brr. Chase Brown and Jalen Waddle from KSNE fan. Chase Brown and Jalen Waddle, buy low or heck no guys? Buy low, heck no. On which ones? On both of them? On Waddle for me. I wouldn't trade for Waddle.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Okay, this article is giving me absolutely nothing. It's just like a garbage article. All right. And then James Cook as a buy high. What do you think about James Cook as a buy high? Yeah, I mean, like anytime you're getting players that are performing well and hopefully will continue to perform well, if you're comfortable enough paying up for them, then sure, you know, it's. It's most likely going to be a receiver for running back, quarterback for running back, package some sort of deal to go running back for running back. I wouldn't be giving up somebody of equal value for James Cook or someone who I value that's going to have similar production the rest of the season. That's just the waste of trade.
Starting point is 01:00:00 But if you feel like, okay, at some point James Connors injury history may come into play or Aaron Jones's injury history may come into play and somebody values that player more so than James Cook, then sure, those types of trades I would make. But I don't think you're giving up somebody of significance to get James Cook at the same position. Would you rather have Malik neighbors or James Cook? Neighbors.
Starting point is 01:00:20 Neighbors. Really? Really? That's so interesting. I think I'd rather have Cook. I don't know. You guys, I kind of called you out a little bit last week on being too low on James Cook. And I understood going into last week why there was hesitation, but 17 carries, 111 yards,
Starting point is 01:00:35 two touchdowns, three catches for 22 yards. You can have some questions about the catches. I would say the bills have been in such weird game scripts all year. They've been in so many blowouts that I'm still hopeful that Cook can be a three catch guy on a weekly basis or pretty close to it, but he's just awesome. And I'm not convinced that he's, he's not going to get all of the goal line work, but I don't think he's coming off the field necessarily for Ray Davis. Like there'll be a little bit of a split. Alan will work in there.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Ooh, I think he's scoring more touchdowns. I think he's scoring more touchdowns the rest of season than Malik neighbors. I guess it's probably format specific. I just look at it like the wide receiver position is so beat up right now. You have a star there. Like I'm not giving that up. All right. All right. That can do it for today's show. I had a let's do one minute on name that league leader, name that league leader, passing yards per game. Passing yards per game. Yep. How many games played?
Starting point is 01:01:40 It's all of them. It's not like a trick question. Yeah, right. Who? Russ? No. His cousin's up there? It's Gino Smith by one yard over Baker Mayfield. I was down to either Baker or Cousins and I thought about Gino and I thought, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:58 I know he's up there in attempts. I didn't think he'd be up there in yards too. Okay, Gino. Schaefer guessed Baker. Very good guess. Dak Prescott is third, by the way, passing yards per attempt. Could be Richardson. No, can't be Richardson. I'll say Richardson.
Starting point is 01:02:17 No, uh, Lamar Jackson. Lamar Jackson is one tenth of a yard per attempt behind Jared Goff. It's number one. Oh, Goff makes perfect sense. Rushing yards per carry. For running backs? Yeah. Well, for any position, but yeah, sure. It is a running back. So yards per carry? So Derek Henry was the first name that popped into my mind.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Is that your guess? Yes, Derek Henry was the first name that popped into my mind. Is that your guess? Yes, Derek Henry. It's Derek Henry. 6.5 yards per carry, one tenth of a yard ahead of Jameer Gibbs. We have 10 running backs right now, averaging five yards per carrier better. In 2023, there were six through the first eight weeks. But in 2022, there were 12 through the first eight weeks, but we ended up with only six. Some of this efficiency is going to come down. Derek Henry and Jameer Gibbs are not going to average 6.5 yards per carry. Your league leader in yards per route run. He's very good. He's very good? Yeah, it's not a trick. AJ Brown. AJ Brown is correct. Oh. And your league leader in end zone targets.
Starting point is 01:03:37 They are two players tied for 11 end zone targets. One of them is not playing this week. One of them is playing on a different team. And you said it's not picking. One of them is not playing this week. One of them is playing on a different team. And you said it's not Pickens. So. One of them is playing on a different team this week. One of them is not playing this week. Does it mean that he's on by or does it mean that he's hurt and playing on a different team? Deontay Johnson? Deontay Johnson. He's not going to lead the league in end zone. Oh, you're right. He's not playing this week. Mike Evans. Mike Evans. There you go. Good job, guys. Impressive stuff. Thank you all for watching and listening to Fantasy Football.
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