Fantasy Football Today - Trade Talk! Plus Midseason Awards, Fantasy Cops and GB-SF (11/04 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: November 4, 2020We have so many buy low and sell high players for you! Get excited for a lot of trade talk after we get to the big news (2:55) on the Packers and Dolphins RBs. Should you pick up any of these guys? Th...en get our favorite buy low players from Dave (8:00) and Ben (13:40) including a couple of Ravens and Jonathan Taylor. And then some sell high players (20:33) perhaps including D.K. Metcalf and Mike Evans ... More buy low options (26:48)! Are we thinking D'Andre Swift will break out in the second half? And is Josh Allen ready to turn things around? Then we've got more news and notes (36:15) and it's on to Packers-49ers (37:15). Who is the best TE in this game? How much do we like JaMycal Hasty and Jerick McKinnon? ... Midseason awards (46:40)! The Fantasy Cops are back (54:30)! And we read your Apple Podcast questions later in the show ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com You can also download and subscribe to the full-length Fantasy Football Today podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-podcast/id261735167 Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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We are going to talk about some running back situations, Green Bay and Miami.
We're going to preview that Green Bay-San Francisco game,
and hopefully we're going to take your mind off some things
and talk a little football here for the next hour.
Welcome to Fantasy Football today.
Oh, yeah, the Fantasy Cops are coming on as well, so that'll be fun.
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That was...
He's going to give Heath a run for his money.
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All right.
So here we are on Wednesday.
As I mentioned, we're going to be doing some regulating a little bit later.
And we will read your Fantasy Cops questions. Trivia
question to start the show. Which team
is allowing the fewest points per game
in the NFL?
Oh, I know the answer.
Do you really? Yeah.
Doing research, it
came across my screen.
I know the answer. Let's let Ben
have a chance to guess.
I want to say Ravens,
but I'm going to go with the Chiefs.
No.
The Miami Dolphins are number one.
What?
Yeah, they're the number one team
in fantasy points per game allowed.
Ravens are second.
Chiefs are third.
Fantasy points per game.
Amazing. No, points per game. Is it actual points too? Did I say fantasy points per game allowed. Ravens are second. Chiefs are third. Fantasy points per game. Amazing.
No, points per game.
Did I say fantasy points per game?
I didn't mean that. I meant reality
points per game. Okay, yeah. They're 20th
in yards per game allowed, so
probably not going to keep it up, but that's a
fun stat. We have
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The big news.
A.J. Dillon and Jamal Williams out.
Aaron Jones, apparently some pessimism.
They're playing Thursday at San Francisco.
Dave, I want a Green Bay running back to start this week.
Who am I taking?
You will probably take Tyler Irvin to be that running back,
but you should have next to no expectations for him
or for Dexter Williams, who will be the other running back
that figures to get work.
What you should count on is Aaron Rodgers
throwing a lot and maybe even running himself
a little bit.
I do not have faith in Tyler Irvin.
He's more receiver than running back.
And last week, he dropped two passes
on consecutive plays.
He's not great.
And Dexter Williams isn't great either.
And they're both inexperienced and they're both probably
below the average
the line of average running backs
I guess I should say that they're below
average running backs
this is going to be a tough spot for the Packers
that's a funny way of calling someone below
average right he's below
the line of average
I was thinking of the Mendoza line.
Yeah, and so
we don't have that type of line
in fantasy.
We could probably come up with a player
at some point during the show, and we can start putting
running backs above and below that line.
Yeah, well, I think
Irvin and Williams are below that line.
I think Tampa Bay running backs.
Ronald Jones could be that line.
Yeah, who wants to start him against the Saints?
I'll take him over Irvin or Williams at this point.
Ben, how about you?
I'm in the same boat.
I think Irvin probably catches four passes,
but he may drop two of them, only get four targets.
And Rodgers says, I'm not throwing to any running backs this game.
And Dexter Williams could fall into the end zone.
Dexter Williams could play 10 snaps. If Rodgers doesn't like'm not throwing to any running backs this game. And Dexter Williams could fall into the end zone. Dexter Williams could play 10 snaps.
If Rodgers doesn't like the way it's going,
he could throw 65 times on Thursday night.
So I'm not excited about either, but in PPR, I'll go Irvin.
That's probably the better way to go.
And obviously both 49ers running backs ahead of the Packers running backs.
Yeah.
And Matt Breida ahead of them.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
Breida's interesting.
Breida is interesting.
Let me just say this, though. You know, with the Packers situation, it does remind me a little bit of the Se Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Breida's interesting. Breida's interesting. Let me just say this, though.
With the Packers situation,
it does remind me a little bit of the Seahawks,
except I guess there are two mouths
to feed, we think.
Do we love DJ Dallas? I don't think so.
Was he facing a tough matchup?
It's the same matchup. It's the 49ers
who are now allowing the second-fewest
fantasy points to the running backs.
Aaron Jones has scored a touchdown in every game he's played.
Jamal Williams has had 100 yards in both of his starts
and a touchdown in one of them.
So that's why I didn't want to just completely poo-poo the Packers.
I think if it were one guy, we might be more excited.
It's a split. It would be disappointing.
But yeah, Brita, you know, so he's got Arizona this week,
but three-week absence roughly for Miles Gaskin, sprained MCL.
Dave, I wish I hadn't been so occupied last night.
I would have put in more bids for Matt Breida.
What do you think?
He's only like 17% rostered, I think.
You got to get your priorities straight, Adam.
I do believe that he's got a chance to help
running back needy fantasy managers get by as a three week bandaid.
I think he'll be the best running back for the Miami dolphins until
Gaskin comes back.
He's kind of like Gaskin in that he's,
he's,
he's a good pass catcher out of the backfield.
He's an explosive runner.
I think there was hesitation to use him a lot because his body has broken
down.
But if it's a three game window that he's got to play,
I don't mind him being used. because his body has broken down. But if it's a three-game window that he's got to play,
I don't mind him being used.
I don't think he's going to be a feature back,
but he'll be the lead back for the Dolphins,
and you might see Jordan Howard reprise his role as the hammer between the tackles.
Okay, and would you drop,
by the way, it's 31% roster now?
Yeah, Matt Breida.
Would you drop Boston Scott or Giovanni Bernard to pick up Matt Brita?
Only if I need a bandaid this week, because I think that if either one of those guys are
starting next week, I'd much rather have them next week than Brita.
So if I need somebody this week, yeah, I'm doing it.
I'm fine doing it.
I'll start Brita, but I would prefer to hold on to both of those guys.
Okay. So is Matt Brita ahead of Ronald Jones?
Yes.
The Jones line.
He is.
How about David Montgomery or Matt Brita this week?
I like Montgomery in a good matchup.
I've got Montgomery a little bit higher.
Okay.
All right.
So Matt Breida is interesting.
Go get him, everybody.
And it's not just one week.
It might be three weeks.
Hopefully, you know,
hopefully they don't do that shenanigans that Dave was just talking about
with Jordan Howard
getting the one-yard touchdown runs.
Oh, I'm sure it's going to happen.
Yeah.
Okay.
Just to throw it out there.
I mean, I don't have the numbers in front of me,
but I would imagine
that the number of carries inside the 10
that Matt Breed has had with the Dolphins
is in the single digits and potentially a zero.
Oh, definitely single digits.
He hasn't had that many carries to begin with.
Okay.
Favorite buy low.
We're going to go to Dave.
You've got a couple of running backs on there.
You gave us three names for your buy lows.
You gave us Clyde Edwards-Elair, Jonathan Taylor, and Lamar Jackson.
So let's do it one by one here.
Clyde Edwards-Ziller, we'll go with him first.
He has 18 touches, was it?
Yeah, 18 touches in two games.
It's been terrible.
Right, right, right.
He and Le'Veon are...
It's not quite 50-50 in terms of snaps,
but in terms of touches, it's pretty close to that.
And he hasn't been great with them.
I can't imagine it stays this way. I really can't. I think Edwards-Hilaire is still the more talented running back. What has Le'Veon shown in the two games that he's been to Kansas
City? That he's good at splitting the workload with Edwards-Hilaire? I don't think he's necessarily
a better running back. And I think that as December comes along, teams get a little more
conservative offensively,
and that'll help Edwards-Hilaire hopefully pick up more touches.
And his price has never been lower.
We did this game when Le'Veon went to Kansas City.
Where would you draft him?
If we were drafting again right now for the rest of the season,
we talked about him in that round two, three turn.
Now I think if we were drafting,
I think the consensus would put him maybe in round four
because it's been so ugly
through two games.
I think he can outperform that.
So if the manager in your league
that's got Edwards-Alaire
is unhappy with him,
go get him
because I think there will be
some great games ahead.
And I feel the exact same way
with Jonathan Taylor.
I just don't believe
that Jordan Wilkins
is going to take over this backfield
when Jordan Wilkins
hasn't taken over anything
his entire career. So Taylor's another one. That's a great by low running back that should
be able to get his act together. The caveat with Taylor is that if he's legitimately hurt and he
shows up on the injury report, the ankle, and then is out, then maybe that slows down the excitement
for him. And then it gives Wilkins a legitimate chance to be something. I just do.
I can't help myself here.
I think the talent is too good with both these rookie running backs.
Okay.
I just going to say this about Taylor,
right?
I'm going to question this,
right?
Have we kind of assigned greatness to him a little bit too early?
The guy has two games this year with more than 68 rushing yards.
Maybe only one game.
Yeah, one game this year.
How many games this year has he had 15 plus carries?
I was just about to get to that.
They don't give him a lot of work.
It's very frustrating.
He has 100 carries this season.
One carry out of 100 has gone for more than 16 yards.
His longest run is 21 yards.
He doesn't really catch a lot of passes most weeks.
I was all about,
I mean,
I'm not trying to be a hypocrite here because I had been bringing him up.
Great schedule.
Schedule looks a little bit tougher now than it did.
Tennessee's run defenses come around a bit.
They got Baltimore this week.
I thought the same thing about Jonathan Taylor.
I'm just wondering,
have we,
have we anointed him a little bit too early here?
He's not really playing that well,
you know, he's not doing that well. It's a score score touchdown i was on the other side of that you remember in the draft
in august when we're talking about where to draft jonathan taylor i wasn't touching him
where guys like jamie and ben gretchen and probably even heathen and ben as well
wanted to take him they were they were looking at him in round three or round four and then when
uh marlon m Mack got hurt,
everybody was like, oh, well, if I had known that, Jonathan Taylor
would have been the second-round pick. And I agreed
with that. But
he certainly has not played to the level
that we thought. And still, I'll say what I
said on Sunday. It looks like he's still not
quite sure he knows what he's doing. Right. So that's
why I'm wondering, is he really
the good buy-low that you're saying? It doesn't
necessarily take a full season for a running back to click.
And sometimes it could take something as simple as one play for him to start to,
okay, all right, I got this now.
I'm ready to go.
So maybe it was a case last week where the ankle was legitimately slowing him down.
Maybe it was what I thought it was,
where he's just thinking a little bit too much and not playing freely.
Maybe it's something else that we just don't know about.
Maybe. Could it really be that
he's just not as talented of a running back as
we saw when he was at Wisconsin?
I doubt it. I really doubt that.
I don't want to say it's talent. I'm not doubting
his talent. I'm just doubting his production.
Just looking at the raw number,
he just hasn't really been nearly as
productive as we thought. Maybe he's just still, like you
said, still kind of learning.
And Jordan Wilkins isn't going to overtake him if Taylor's healthy, most likely.
But is he going to be a thorn in the side?
Remember he had that three-game stretch where he had nine carries each game?
And then he completely went away from Jordan Wilkins.
So, you know, did he carve out a role in a multi-back system?
That's all I'm saying.
You know, to finish it off,
when would you draft Jonathan Taylor right now if we were drafting again?
Around 3-4.
Yeah, 3-4 turn.
I think, Adam, you're right about talent.
I think that may be a reason
why they're not using him as much
because they do think there's talent there
and maybe he's not ready
because Wilkins and Hines have gotten the job done
in their little opportunities.
So they don't really have a reason to give Taylor more than 12 carries a week.
Well, who would you guys rather have, Taylor or C.E.H.?
I'd rather have Taylor.
I think I would too.
Okay. Dave, your last buy low is Lamar Jackson.
Who's been a disappointment, especially where you drafted him.
But I do think that there will be some great games ahead.
I love his schedule for the fantasy playoffs.
He's another one who just, for whatever reason,
the passing hasn't clicked this year like it did last year.
And he's not running quite as much.
And if he is, it's not quite as hyper-efficient as he was in 2019.
I think that can flip.
Yeah.
Well, look, he's still on pace for 939 rushing yards.
So I've been saying this.
Yeah, that's pretty good.
He basically has to just be a little bit better as a passer,
and he's still going to be really good for you.
I'm saying the best is yet to come for Lamar Jackson.
Ben, your favorite bylaws, one of them is a teammate of Lamar Jackson.
You've got Mark Andrews, and you've got of Lamar Jackson, you've got Mark Andrews and you've got James Connor.
So Mark Andrews, uh, he is not getting a lot of targets, but which is not a surprise, but yeah,
anyway, uh, go ahead. Mark Andrews. He's not the targets aren't there. And the last two weeks,
he's two for 21 and three for 32. And you know how Mark Andrews rolls. He's going to have a
60 yard game with two touchdowns
pretty soon. And he's still a top five tight end because the tight end position is so bad.
So someone frustrated with that, those last two weeks may want to get rid of them. And Andrews
does have the sixth easiest schedule for tight ends rest of season. It may not matter too much
because targets just aren't there, but I think Lamar Jackson's going to click. I agree with the
bylaw Dave. And I think Mark Andrews is going to be a beneficiary. I think that that's what would
help Lamar Jackson click. Remember there was this whole big deal during the off season about Lamar's
got to be a better thrower downfield. And maybe he just, he's not going to be there. I mean,
he may not get there until next year with those passes to Marquise Brown and they worked in Devin
Duvernay. And there were some passes even as recently as last week where he did get the
job done.
But I think if you,
if you wanted to get Lamar Jackson back on track,
go to the guy who's been his most reliable pass catcher since he started
taking snaps two seasons ago.
And that was Mark Andrews.
He's always done a nice job throwing to Andrews.
They need to get him going.
You know,
I had some guys I was going to throw out at you is,
are they by Lowe's lows and one of mine was
the uh the old squeaky cricket oh wait wrong song thank you for destroying my ears
there we go there's the cricket sound that's the windshield wiper uh
marquise brown marquise brown was another one are we just the windshield wiper in the desert
yeah no water whatsoever that thing is just rubbing on the windshield wiper in the desert. No water whatsoever.
That thing is just rubbing on the windshield. I have three buttons.
I finally got the right one.
Sorry about that.
How can you be a squeaky wheel a game after you caught a touchdown?
Because he got two, three targets.
He had two targets in the game.
Out there tweeting about no targets, but I don't know.
He's been up and down his whole career.
So I think it's tough to trade for a guy after a touchdown game.
His whole career? Is it his second season?
Yes, his whole career. Short career.
I don't know. So is Mark Andrews.
That's kind of the thing with the Ravens.
They don't have a lot of passing yards, so they need hyper-efficiency.
Brown is still leading the team.
This is the target breakdown for the Ravens,
even after Brown just had two targets and Snead just had a big game.
Brown 44, Andrews
39, Snead 22,
Boykin 22. Still those
two guys getting most of it.
As it should be.
Yeah, I could make
the case for him as a buy low, but
I've always been kind of high on him.
I think the bottom line is if they give him
targets, he's going to produce.
Andrews is currently the number seven tight end in PPR.
Yeah.
Okay.
Sorry.
Soon.
Cause Kittle,
you know,
not going to be around.
Uh,
James Connor was your other one.
So is he really a by low?
What do you think?
Under 50 rushing yards to out of the past four games,
people might be frustrated with him,
but 15 touches and six straight and he has a great upcoming schedule.
I still think he's a high-end RB2,
low-end RB1.
If you can get him at an RB2 price,
I'm all in. If you can,
that would be great. It would also be
great to buy a Ferrari for
$25,000.
I might have to do that.
I think the argument could be made
that James Conner is a a buy high and that if
you wanted to go and get a running back,
that seems to score every week is the main cog in the Steelers offense.
And they're eventually going to have to do something to change up their
offense because this short passing game that they've been doing is going to get
snuffed out pretty soon.
So one thing that they can do is lean on Connor even more. I know
they might not want to do that, but I think that
it would help them diversify a little bit.
The other thing is taking shots downfield.
How about that? They established taking shots
downfield. They need some speed
in order to do that. I don't know
if DeAndre Johnson's healthy, he could be
that guy. Claypool's size can give
him that opportunity. We'll see.
If they do establish that,
that'll help Connor be more efficient as a running back.
Yeah.
He's having a really good year.
And,
uh,
Connor Dallas,
Dallas this week,
Cincinnati next week,
Jacksonville.
Wow.
He's got,
I mean,
he's got some really good matchups coming up.
He's,
he's currently the number 11 running back and full PPR.
That's it.
Huh?
So I get
if you asked me where did he rank coming
into the year or coming into today
in PPR, I would have said a lot higher than 11.
So I get Ben's point. Okay.
Well, look, guys, we're going to get
some. Oh, we have our
fantasy midseason awards scheduled for today
too. So we'll try to get to those.
Best MVP, LVP, best waiver
wire pickup, second half breakout all that
stuff but you know it's been a pretty stressful week really a stressful day tuesday um yeah because
of the trade deadline yeah trade deadline was just very uneventful kind of crazy the packers just
won't do anything to uh to help outgers. Weird. Seems like they tried.
But look, everybody's probably a little on edge right now,
and it's been a tough year.
We know that.
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All right, your favorite sell highs.
So this is fun because Dave says TJ Hawkinson's a sell high,
and I think Ben had him as a second half breakout in our superlatives, right?
Oh, yeah.
All right.
Fight, fight, fight.
TJ Hawkinson.
I'm not saying to get fight. TJ Hawkinson. I'm not saying to get
rid of TJ Hawkinson, but I wonder if his perceived value is higher than what his actual value is.
Now, when it comes to tight ends, he's been really good the last four weeks. He scored in three of
the last four games. And in PPR last week, he gave you 13 points. But he's given you seven or fewer
points in non-PPR in three of those four games.
Eventually, Kenny Galladay will come back.
I still view him as a touchdown or bust tight end.
And if somebody in your league is trying to put together a God squad and they're a tight end away and they're willing to overpay with TJ Hawkinson,
man, go for it because he's not that much better
than the types of streaming tight ends that are out there.
So you,
you make the conscious choice to stream tight ends.
This is a great week to start doing it.
Eric Ebron,
Logan Thomas are two guys that you can pick up.
Robert Tanya.
And if we're before the,
if you're listening to this before the Thursday night game,
he could be somebody that steps up without that run game there for green
Bay.
You can stream tight end decently.
Trey Burton's another name.
And if you can sell high on Hawkins, I'm not telling you to get rid of him,
but if someone's looking for a tight end,
they might overpay for him based
on what the stats have been for
him, the touchdowns specifically
over the last four weeks. I don't think he keeps it up
and scores a touchdown every week.
Yeah, I had made the same exact case last
week. I thought he was a great sell high
just because he was like, you know, having a nice year,
but not really truly breaking out.
So if you had two tight ends, he was perfect.
But now you get the Galladay injury
and he got 10 targets in the last game.
Stafford threw the ball a lot more.
So Ben, you know, is that factoring in?
Why do you have Hawkinson as a second half breakout?
Yeah, Stafford will continue to throw the ball a lot.
But yeah, over five targets, over 50 yards averaged in the games without Galladay.
I think he's a top five tight end,
maybe six or seven,
but I don't really want to get rid of them.
And I'm a bit scared to stream tight ends.
If I have someone with Hawkinson,
who I think is going to have a good floor without Galladay.
If Galladay was there,
I agree.
I want to get rid of him and I don't think the touchdowns will stay up,
but if he can get five catches, four catches, and 50 yards every game,
maybe a touchdown, I like that for my tight end.
If you could turn Hawkinson into Mark Andrews, would you do it?
I would.
I would.
But Andrews is in my top five.
You know, I'll give you a bold prediction.
You ready?
I need, like, some music here.
That's not a bold prediction. Jordan Reed. That's not a bold prediction.
Jordan Reed.
That's not a bold prediction.
It's a scary prediction.
Jordan Reed is better than TJ Hawkinson rest of season.
Jordan Reed will have two better weeks than TJ Hawkinson.
I agree.
He might only play two more weeks.
Exactly.
Okay.
All right.
Per game.
Sorry. That's the beauty of streaming.
That's also assuming that Jordan Reed is back in action soon.
Let me stop slowing everybody down.
Mike Evans and Todd Gurley are next for Dave on the sell high list.
Gurley, we've talked about a lot.
His schedule gets tougher.
He's got a buy coming up.
He has the Saints twice and the Bucks
once before this season's over
and he never catches the ball,
but he does have eight rushing touchdowns. So I think we're all on the same
page with Gurley. Would you trade Gurley for Clyde
Edwards, Z-Lair and or Jonathan Taylor?
I think it's close with
those guys. So I would say yes.
If I felt really good about
my running back depth and I wanted to have, like
if Gurley was my third running back,
yes, I would do that. If Gurley was my third running back yes I would do that if girly was my first running back I don't think I'm selling high I think I've got to just you know I'm thin at running back at that case got to keep them all
right Mike Evans so high he had a great game he's coming off of what I think will probably end up
being one of his last great games of the season I do expect Antonio Brown to make a big difference
in this passing game.
He'll be the better downfield threat.
Godwin's going to get healthy.
He's going to be the short area threat.
Where does that leave Mike Evans?
Maybe as the red zone guy,
four catches for 50 yards and a touchdown
feels like his ceiling now moving forward.
I shouldn't say moving forward.
Moving forward with Brown and Godwin on the field.
But what if Godwin is out for like four to six weeks?
Then that would obviously help Mike Evans,
and I'll feel stupid for saying what I'm saying right now.
It's possible.
So, okay.
Is it?
That's what was the report.
That it was going to be a much longer injury.
Then they would have put him on the line.
You can sell him, and Gronk is a factor too.
Evans was the only guy scoring touchdowns from the one, two-yard line, and now Gronk is a factor too. Like Evans was the only guy scoring touchdowns from the one,
two yard line.
And now Gronk is getting more involved.
So I agree.
It is,
you know,
Evans will be good if Godwin is out,
but it is a good time to sell Evans if you can.
Yeah.
And what happens when Mike Evans has a three catch 30 yard,
zero touchdown game,
which could happen as soon as this week against the saints.
Saints have done a good job
taking Mike Evans away
over the course of his career.
You're not going to get
the same type of value for him then.
You got to wonder what the coverage
is going to be like
because he gets the Saints,
then Carolina.
They've been great against wide receivers,
and then he might get Jalen Ramsey.
I don't know who Jalen Ramsey would shadow
if the wide receivers are all healthy.
If he shadows, right.
Mike Evans has been playing in the slot
a decent amount this year, I believe. I know he did
on Monday night.
Ben's buy high, sell high.
Devin Singletary,
we talked about him on Monday's show.
Not getting the goal line
work.
See what you can get for him.
And then DK Metcalf,
you
little... Why? Why you got to hate on dk metcalf my man
and it is not hating on him he's just the wide receiver three overall i think he slides down to
the eight to ten range for the season maybe stays in the top five but i'm talking downgrade to
somebody like digs lockett feeling and get an upgrade somewhere else you know know, he's going to be up and down in terms of target share.
Just like you want to sell lock it after a big game.
I want to sell either one of these guys after a big game.
Cause I don't think either one will finish in the top five.
Okay.
Fair enough.
And,
uh,
Tyler lock it is actually,
believe it or not.
I know you had that one huge game.
He's averaging more PPR fantasy points than DK Metcalf.
The huge game.
Yeah. That's just kind of funny to think about. Biometer. So these are just some guys that I thought maybe could fit
into buy low. You tell me if you agree, the biometer zero to 10, how interested are you in
buying low on Deandre Swift? Four, seven. I thought he for sure would be one of Dave's.
Adrian Peterson has 42 carries in his last four games,
and none of them have gone for more than 10 yards.
That is wild.
He could be running out of gas.
They don't care.
No, they should care.
It is time.
I know they should care, but they don't care.
Every reason to play DeAndre Swift more.
I saw your tweet.
His playing time is going up.
He had some bad luck last week.
Get DeAndre Swift, right? If you can't, that's why I gave him a seven His playing time is going up. He had some bad luck last week. Get DeAndre Swift,
right? If you can't, that's why I gave him a 7.
Right. Okay, good. Leonard Fournette,
biometer.
6.
Who'd you rather have rest of season?
Will Swift.
Fournette or Swift? I'd rather have Swift.
I know you gave Swift a higher
grade on the Biometer,
but I think some of that should also be what we perceive his value to be,
what you'd have to give up for him.
But they're probably fairly similar, I guess.
I think they're pretty similar.
I agree that you'll have to give up more for Swift than for Fournette,
but I think fantasy managers realize what Fournette could be,
and that's the main back in Tampa Bay.
Pandora's box has been opened for that now.
You think so?
Because I just feel like maybe one more fumble.
Which could happen as soon as this week against the Saints.
You know, that fumble was really kind of a tough luck fumble.
Coaches don't care, though.
I disagree. He's so bad at catching the ball.
It's just unbelievable.
He's on his knees catching the ball,
cradles it in his chest, and then it comes out.
All right, sorry, back to the biometer.
Cooper Cup, sixth most targets among wide receivers.
He did just have 21 targets last week,
but 25% target share, only two touchdowns.
That's just weird for Cup.
He's usually the touchdown guy. Biometer
on Cup. And going into a buy, you know, value a little
lower right now.
Five, but it's just because I
sent offers for Cup this week and managers
think his value is pretty high after this
big game. So I want Cup, but
I'll give it a five. You're going to have to pay. You're going to have to pay up
for Cup. And I don't think a lot of people want to
do it. So if I could buy low on Cup,
it's like a 10. But I think the reality, ben's right it's like a five yeah he didn't have that
great of a game considering he had 21 targets so i thought maybe people wouldn't react that way but
okay well there's some people that see 21 targets and they go oh my god he you know that's a
ridiculous you know amount of targets without thinking about well how much did jericho actually
throw in the game but he's always been, all season and really his whole career,
he's gotten a lot of targets.
He's never been a guy that gets by on three or four targets a game.
No, but he had been, going back to the last half of 2019,
Cup had been about six targets a game.
And then the first two weeks of the season, five targets, six targets.
But since then, he's really gotten...
He's ramped it up.
Yeah.
Robbie Anderson.
Robbie Anderson is 10th in targets
among wide receivers. He has only one
touchdown this year.
He's on pace for 102 catches,
1,376 yards,
two touchdowns on 134
targets. Biometer on
Robbie Anderson.
Nine.
I was going to say eight. I think that this
is a good buy low receiver to go get
because he's been dragged through the
dirt the last three weeks. 11, 13,
nine PPR points.
And that was after the first five games
when he was getting a lot of numbers.
So I think that that could bounce back.
Which side would you rather have? Robbie
Anderson and DeAndre Swift or Mike Evans?
Oh, Anderson and Swift.
Anderson and Swift.
I think Anderson and Evans are even for the rest of the year.
That's what I figured.
How about a Denver-wide receiver?
They got Atlanta, then Vegas, then Miami, then the Saints.
It's a pretty favorable schedule these next four weeks.
I don't even know if it's a buy low.
It might just be go to the waiver wire.
Jerry, Judy, Tim Patrick, if he plays.
Dave, are you seeing any interest in a Denver-wide receiver?
I think if you want to acquire one of these guys,
you start setting up a trade by going after a bigger player
on somebody's team and say,
okay, what are you going to give me for Alvin Kamara and Jerry Judy?
And the manager will say, what?
You're going to need a lot to get those guys.
And then you go, okay, well, how about just Judy then?
And then you hope to just kind of sneak them on your roster.
Because if you go to somebody saying, I offer you Matt Brita for Jerry Judy,
if they need a running back, they'll take that in a heartbeat.
But they'll wonder, well, why are you going
after Jerry Judy? And the reason why you should go after
Jerry Judy is because he had a bunch
of targets last week. We know the talent is there.
It's just a matter of time.
It's kind of like the Jonathan Taylor thing. He's another
player that had a ton of talent coming
in the year. A lot of expectations
and it just hasn't clicked yet
for him. And it's gonna.
And you want to have him on your team when it does. Or is that going to be Tim Patrick? Patrick was playing better. It could
be Patrick too. It really could, but we don't know how he'll be when he comes back from this injury.
I don't want to give up an asset for Patrick, but I probably like Patrick more if he's playing.
If he's at a hundred percent, he's probably the better pass catcher for Drew Locke style for now.
But I could absolutely see Judy.
I'm with you, Ben.
I don't want to give up anything big for Judy.
I don't even want to give up Matt Burrito for Jerry Judy.
Patrick is 47% roster right now.
And if he's playing, you're going to want him against the Falcons.
So keep an eye on it.
Josh Allen is my last guy on the biometer.
Four straight games with 12 to 19 fantasy points in six point per passing touchdown leagues. He played pretty poorly in two
of them. I thought he played well against the Jets. They just couldn't score. And I thought
you couldn't really judge him based on last week. He threw 18 times. It was a windy game. They were
able to run the ball successfully against the Patriots. So I'm wondering, he's got Seattle
this week. So start with that.
Then Arizona, that should be a shootout.
Then a bye.
Then the Chargers, they're 30th against quarterbacks.
So the upcoming schedule seems pretty good for Josh Allen.
And he's running more now.
So I think it's a decent case for a bye low on Allen.
What do you guys think?
Bye, O-Meter.
I'm hesitant to do it just because he couldn't put up
great numbers against the J jets two weeks ago.
And I didn't expect him to have a great game against the Patriots,
but I expected more than what he gave.
And maybe it was just because they were able to run the football finally for
Buffalo.
So I wonder if they're going to try and keep doing that against Seattle in an
attempt to keep Russell Wilson from doing his thing because Buffalo knows
their defense isn't very good at this point.
And if, if, if Alan starts pressing, like we've seen the past couple of weeks,
especially in the red zone, he's, I don't see him. I don't see him getting the types of numbers that
he did earlier this year. And I'm still, I I'm looking at it right now, San Francisco, Pittsburgh,
Denver, new England. Those are the last four games. Well, week 13 through 16, week 17, he's got Miami.
I don't know if you play into week 17, but that schedule scares me.
I don't want him to be my quarterback in the fantasy playoffs,
especially based on how he's been playing the last couple weeks.
I can appreciate that, but the Seattle, Arizona, then a bye,
then the Chargers looks really good.
Yeah, you know, on paper, it makes sense,
but if you get him, have another quarterback
just in case he doesn't deliver to expectations.
And the time to trade for him is now.
Because people that have Josh Allen are seeing,
okay, his numbers are starting to dwindle.
Maybe he was just a first-half stud.
Okay, what are you going to give me for Josh Allen?
I'll give it an eight because of that reason.
If you're going to trade for him, it's right now.
Yeah, look, I also would say that even if he just reverts to last year's Josh Allen,
he's going to be better than he's been because he rushes. He's averaging 36 rushing yards in his last four games, which is a pace of 576 yards. If you rush for 500 yards, you're going to end up
certainly being a top 12 quarterback, probably a top 10 quarterback.
So the production hasn't been there in the passing game.
I think a lot of it might be John Brown.
So hopefully Brown can get on track and help Josh Allen.
Here's a new segment and it's called,
here's something that you're not going to care about,
but I'm going to tell you anyway.
DeAndre Hopkins is going to face Byron Jones.
I don't know if they'll shadow him or whatever,
but Byron Jones,
Tredavious White,
Seattle,
Stefan Gilmore,
Jalen Ramsey,
James Bradbury,
and Darius Slay in his next seven games.
How about that? Who cares?
Yeah,
precisely.
But I told you.
I don't see any of those guys closing out Hopkins.
News and notes.
Antonio Brown is going to play this week,
but Bruce Arian said, quote, it could be 10 plays. It could be 35 plays. I wouldn is going to play this week, but Bruce Arian said,
quote,
it could be 10 plays.
It could be 35 plays.
I wouldn't anticipate 60 plays for sure,
but we'll just see how it goes.
Dave,
are you starting Brown against the saints Sunday night?
I think he's a very good flex play.
Okay.
Matt Breida or Antonio Brown.
I think I'm going to go Brown and PPR.
And I might take them in non PPR too I'll go Brown and both
do you sort of get the sense it's prime time
it's his first game back
it's prime time he's going to want to put on a show
I mean there could also be some significant
rust how much practice
has he had a couple weeks worth maybe
first time on the field with Brady
I know he's played with Brady before and that's a good thing but it's not like he played a field with Brady. I know he's played with Brady before, and that's a good thing, but it's not like he played
a year with Brady. A game.
He played a game with Brady.
I don't want to...
My first run of rankings, he was a top 20
receiver, and I just told myself,
you're too excited about this guy. You've got
to tone it down. Okay. Tevin
Coleman and Deebo Samuel are out this week. Jordan
Reid has a chance to play. Same with Al
and Lazard. The Packers attempted to
acquire Will Fuller, but they weren't quite willing to pay
up. Looks like the Packers have a decent
chance of getting cornerback Kevin King back
this week. He was listed as limited in practice.
The Patriots acquired Isaiah
Ford from the Dolphins for a sixth round pick.
Andy Dalton is on the reserve
COVID list, so he's out this week.
The Cowboys have not decided on a
starting quarterback. Could be
Cooper Rush. Who are we
looking at? Or Garrett Gilbert.
They're both
better than DiNucci. That's the good
news. The bad news is that
they're not better than Andy Dalton.
Detroit linebacker Jared Davis is on the reserve
COVID list. That's a big blow for them.
Chicago right tackle Bobby
Massey is on IR with a knee injury
and backup offensive tackle Jason Spriggs
is on the reserve COVID list.
So right tackle could be a trouble spot
for the Chicago Bears. The offensive line
has been a trouble spot for the Chicago Bears
for two seasons.
Let's go to the game. Green Bay at San Francisco.
Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.
When we finish this, we will do
our first half awards
and fantasy cops
and your Apple podcast questions.
Green Bay at San Francisco.
Here we go.
Stat of the game.
The Packers.
I already gave this stat.
They are ninth in rushing yards per game,
but the stat was basically their running backs
have just been tremendous.
Aaron Jones, touchdown in all five games.
Jamal Williams, more than 100 yards in both starts,
a touchdown in one of them.
But you guys are hesitant to start a Packers running back.
Understandable.
So Aaron Rodgers is top seven.
What are the tough calls in this game?
Well, at least with the Packers.
You're starting Rodgers.
You're starting Adams.
I suppose it would be Alan Lazard if he plays and Robert Tanyan.
Ben, I'm going to give you the first word.
How do you feel about Alan Lazard?
50% rostered.
Let's say he plays.
The 49ers give up the 10th fewest fantasy points to receivers.
If he does play, I think he's a flex at best.
I don't know if he'll be eased in.
I don't know.
But the thing is, Rodgers is going to throw a lot.
So he is a flex play,
but I'd rather not start him
in his first game back.
Dave, Lazard?
I'm not counting on him
playing as of this point.
If he does play,
he's at best a flex.
I do think Tanyan can be
an asset for Green Bay.
Tanyan, sorry.
My bad.
Tanyan, Tanyan, my bad.
You know, old habits die hard.
I set the tone.
I believe that he could end up getting
a little bit more target share than we've seen
because the run game is a humongous question mark.
And if they can't get going,
they got to move the ball somehow.
Can we just address that it looks like Dave
is in a foggy shower right now?
He put an Instagram filter on his video.
What happened?
I don't know.
I did.
You know what's funny?
It's sunlight coming through.
You think so?
I think it is.
It definitely is, but it's an Instagram filter.
It's really funny.
All right, Dave.
We're keeping this, Dave.
That's fine.
You can keep it.
Okay, okay.
Is this any better?
It is not any better.
I don't think it's fun.
I'm enjoying it.
It's not just the filter.
Who's the better flex in this game?
Dexter Williams, Tyler Irvin, or Alan Lazard?
No, there's crap on my camera.
I don't think there's crap on your camera.
I don't think it got there.
I think it's just the sun.
I think it's Lazard, Adam.
I think Lazard is going to have the most catches,
and we can't predict the rushing yards or the rushing touches.
So I'll play Lazard, but I don't think Lazard plays so Irvin
of the two running backs like we said earlier.
Irvin has the much better chance to rack up some receptions.
Who's the best tight end in this game?
Reed if he plays
I'll go Tanya
I think if Reed plays Dwelly has been
playing a lot and he's decent so
I think maybe they split some
some snaps so I think
they could both play a lot
but I think
Reed has kind of got this role
based on what we saw earlier this season
of being way more of a pass catcher than a blocker.
Dwelly is a little bit more of a blocker than a pass catcher.
I wouldn't mind Dwelly if Jordan Reed isn't called up to play.
You want to hear a terrible joke?
Do you think they'll split Dwelly out wide
and it'll be Reed between the lines?
I told you it was terrible.
You should have stopped me.
You should have stopped me.
Okay, would you start Dalton Schultz
or a tight end in this game?
I could start both tight ends
in this game over Schultz.
I think I would too.
How about Evan Ingram at Washington
or a tight end in this game?
Ingram.
Tunyon over Ingram at Washington or a tight end in this game? Ingram. Tunyon over Ingram.
Okay.
Nick Mullins is about 20th for Jamie and Heath,
not ranked outside of the top 24.
Nick Mullins is completing this year 70.4% of his passes
and averaging 8.6 yards per attempt.
Let that sink in.
Nick Mullins might get benched.
I mean, yes, if he throws some interceptions,
he might get benched. The Packers have one of the worst
pass rushes in the NFL in terms of pressure
percentage. They do...
They have been pretty good against quarterbacks. You know, the one thing
the Packers do, if you're wondering, the metrics
say they have a bad defense. They can't get to the
quarterback. Their yards per attempt is terrible.
How are they doing this? The Packers
are the slowest-paced team
in the NFL.
They are 32nd in pace.
Not in situation neutral,
which just kind of gives an idea of how they want to run their offense,
but 32nd in pace overall.
And the Niners are down low, too,
and the Niners are even lower in situation neutral pace.
So this could be a game without a lot of possessions,
without a lot of plays being run,
kind of a slower game,
which isn't great for offense, obviously.
I understand nobody's trusting Nick Mullins.
I have Nick Mullins and Nick Foles in a 2QB league.
I have Jared Goff and Baker Mayfield.
So I am all about St. Nick's this week, Nick Mullins and Nick Foles.
And you know what?
There could be worse weeks to be starting those guys, I suppose.
Do you like, love Jemichael Hasty, Dave?
What do you think?
I like him more than McKinnon in non-PPR.
I will take McKinnon in full PPR.
What we learned last week was
after Tevin Coleman went out,
Hasty was in on obvious running situations,
McKinnon in obvious passing situations,
except there was
one series in the third and one series
in the fourth, or I'm sorry, in the second and in the fourth where McKinnon, or I'm sorry,
in the second and the third where McKinnon was basically taking over. And then in the fourth,
when they were playing from behind, it was McKinnon every single play. And I thought
McKinnon looked okay as a pass catcher running routes, working after the catch. I thought he
was fine. So I don't know where this idea of him having tired legs comes from, but I don't see him getting 15 touches.
I think he's a PPR-only type of play.
I think Hasty is at worst a flex in PPR
and maybe makes the cut as a low-end No. 2 running back in non-PPR
because of that rushing downs role.
And the Packers are just terrible.
Terrible. They give up the most points.
They give up the most points to running backs.
But they also give up the most receiving yards.
They contributed to that last week.
I mean, he had an amazing game.
And Packers defense, it's been all year.
They've struggled with running backs.
And Kyle Shanahan is the rushing wizard.
So he can probably figure out something with Hasty.
And Hasty had a bad average last week, whatever,
the two games before he was doing all right.
So it's a great opportunity for him.
It's a great opportunity.
I'm surprised that you're starting McKinnon over him,
even in PPR, because, yeah, I did mention, though,
the Packers are giving up the most receiving yards
to running back.
So that is a good thing.
Second most.
I have him with the most, but...
I got him with the second most.
Yards per game.
Yards per game.
Oh, okay.
I've got it yards per catch.
Oh, no.
So it's second most yards per catch to running back.
Okay.
And the most yards per game to running back. Okay. And the most yards per game
to running back. So whatever.
They've allowed 17 or more
non-PPR fantasy points
to a running back in four of their
last five games. Camara,
Gurley, Ronald Jones, and Dalvin Cook.
So Hasty... Yeah, those guys are
a little better than Hasty.
Are Gurley and Ronald Jones
that much better than Hasty?
Talent-wise, Jones is.
Situation-wise.
I think situation-wise, yes.
Hasty's the same, I think.
Well, Jones wasn't when they played.
Jones was when he played.
Now he's not.
That's true.
So that was a game where Jones was playing without Fournette
and got 100 yards.
That's true.
So now, of course, Hasty's in a better situation.
Listen to what Shraggy B just said.
He thinks Hasty goes off.
I think he does.
I think he gets 15-plus rushes
because you can run on this Packers defense.
And I think McKinnon plays a lot,
and I do like McKinnon as a flex in PPR,
but I think Hasty has the opportunity
to go 15 for 100 and score.
So I prefer Hasty in both formats,
but Dave, I do like McKinnon in PPR,
so I totally get that.
Okay, Ben, you might want to calm down. That was a little...
Hasty?
Okay.
It'll happen. It'll happen. But no, Hasty is a good RB2, nothing more than that.
Dave, Brandon Ayuk, Kendrick Bourne, what do we do?
You're starting Ayuk. Bourne is a PPR-only bi-week replacement.
Are you nervous about IUC?
You are talking about a team now
in their last four games.
Packers have held Calvin Ridley,
Mike Evans, and Chris Goblin
to a combined six catches
for 58 yards.
Will Fuller and Brandon Cooks
were good, not great.
They had 12, 13 PPR fantasy points each.
The Minnesota wide receivers
had five PPR fantasy points each. The Minnesota wide receivers had five
PPR fantasy points each. That would be Thielen and Jefferson. Obviously, weather targets played
a role in that, but this team is pretty good against wide receivers. Nobody seems to buy it.
I buy it a little bit, but are you nervous about Ayuk or are you confidently starting him?
I'm confidently starting him as a number two receiver.
Okay. Would you start?
They don't have a lot of other targets, and I think
eventually they'll play from behind.
Would you start IUK or
DJ Moore?
IUK and non-PPR, I would
start for sure.
And I think I'd go with him over more in
PPR as well. Okay.
Then Carolina is at Kansas City this week.
Corey Davis or Brandon Ayuk?
Ayuk.
Ayuk.
Okay.
The Packers DST, 8th for Jamie, 18th for Dave, 14th for Heath.
Not super helpful there.
Let's do our second half awards.
We'll fire through these, and then we'll get to the fantasy cops.
Dave, your fantasy MVP is?
My fantasy MVP
for the first half of the 2020 season
as I kill seconds of time.
Russell Wilson, Dave.
My MVP is Russell Wilson.
There you go.
Thank you, Adam.
Yeah, he is actually only averaging
about one more fantasy point per game
than Kyler Murray in four point per passing touchdown leagues.
But you drafted him after.
Well, they were almost identical in ADP.
Same round, yeah.
Do you think so?
I think he was drafted after.
I know for a fact.
But six point per passing touchdown leagues,
he's averaging five more fantasy points per game
than Kyler Murray.
Murray, by the way, has seven rushing touchdowns.
So that explains the gap.
Hard to argue with Russell Wilson.
He has been like almost 35 points per game.
Astronomical numbers in six point for passing touchdown leagues.
And Ben, your MVP was?
Alvin Kamara.
Horrible pick.
Yeah, he's got...
Horrible pick.
Awful pick.
I know.
I know.
No, this is not...
It's the chocolate.
It was the third pick of the draft.
Come on.
He's your MVP.
Guess what the other first-rounders have done this year?
Nothing.
That's true.
Good point.
He has one game under 20 points, Adam.
It sucks.
It was 19.9 points.
The dude's a stud.
He's the only stud from the first round.
Kamara's my MVP,
but yes, Russell's a good second option.
Not my MVP.
You know, Dalvin Cook is actually averaging
more fantasy points per game in non-PPR than Camaro,
and not too far behind in PPR.
Missed a game, huge game last week.
I'm not worried.
Okay, okay.
The least valuable player, Dave, what do you got?
I went with Lamar Jackson.
He was drafted as the first or
second quarterback off the board. In some leagues, he was
a first-round pick. We laughed at
those people who took him then, and
now look at what he's delivered this year. He's
not even a top-10 fantasy quarterback
so far
this season. I do think he turns it around,
but for the first half of the year, least
valuable pick outside of guys who got hurt
like Saquon and everybody else.
McCaffrey.
Right.
Okay.
We didn't do any injury guys here.
That's Lamar Jackson.
Ben, what do you got for least valuable?
I had Lamar there for a very long time.
Then I realized Cam Akers was a fifth round pick.
Cam Akers has 37 touches this year.
He's my least valuable pick.
Cam, it's a good call.
He's been a dud.
Swift is getting his turn.
Dobbins is getting his turn.
Henderson has
an injury.
I was looking at their schedule.
I think they have a really bad
rushing schedule coming up.
I'll confirm. Let's go to our next
superlative.
That would be the best waiver wire pickup.
Ben, I'll start with you.
It's James Robinson.
He was a preseason waiver wire guy,
maybe week one waiver wire guy,
but he's a top five running back.
Most touches of any running back
in terms of percentage of their backfield
and double digit points in every game,
230 plus point games.
James Robinson is the best waiver wire pickup of the year so far and will be
for the whole season.
Dave agrees.
He also had James Robinson.
The other guy that Ben was going to say was Robbie Anderson.
Also a good call.
Cam Akers on a buy this week,
then Seattle,
Tampa Bay,
San Francisco,
actually tough matchup Seattle for,
for running backs.
Typically Tampa Bay is eighth against running backs.
San Francisco is second.
Then it gets easier after that.
Our next category is I Kill Time.
It's best draft pick.
Yes, best draft pick.
Which I broke the rules for.
Yeah, you sure did.
Yeah, I picked a whole team instead of just one player
because I didn't want to give Russell Wilson the fantasy MVP
and the best draft pick.
You took the Seahawks.
I just took a bunch of Seahawks.
Been superstar
starters
for every week that they've been healthy.
It's Russ.
It's DK. It's Lockett. It's Carson.
I'm just going to look at
fantasy pros.
Fantasy football calculator ADP.
We'll just go through all these Seahawks.
Chris Carson was the first one off the board.
Let me just search.
Chris Carson was around two pick.
210.
DK Metcalf was 48th.
Well worth it.
Tyler Lockett was 57th.
Worth it.
Bless me.
Russell Wilson was 50...
I just sneezed in case people were wondering what I was talking about.
Russell Wilson was right after Tyler Lockett, 58th.
Kyler Murray was three picks after that.
And that's what we're looking at.
So they're all top 60 picks, but they probably...
Based on what we've seen, they probably should have been top 12 picks.
They've been that good.
Okay, Ben, for you, best draft pick?
Yeah, it was Russell Wilson, too.
Sixth-round quarterback at that value.
He's the winner.
Worst draft pick for Ben was Lamar Jackson.
Worst draft pick for Dave Tyler Higbee.
Remember him?
Yeah, I remember him.
Loved him all offseason.
Thought he was going to evolve into a regular
part of this rams offense he did in week two and then he's been gone basically since then
that's me had some mediocre ppr games since that week two game but now you can find him on the
waiver wire he did not work out like i thought okay our next category is the second half superstar for ben it's tj hawkinson we already
talked that i'm not superstar by the way just second half star it's a huge difference dave
who's your second half i've let oh i think i did put superstar you did put superstar it's
hawkinson baby okay superstar wow how about you dave who's your second half superstar who else
but antonio brown flex this week three weeks from now he might be a top 12 receiver that you just How about you, Dave? Who's your second half superstar? Who else but Antonio Brown?
Flex this week.
Three weeks from now, he might be a top 12 receiver that you just run
right back to starting without even thinking about
matchups or anything else. It's what he once
was once upon a time
before his feet started freezing and
his helmet stopped fitting and
he started doing crazy stuff
and some not so great
stuff.
But he's back, he's playing,
and he's in a great offense for him to shine.
So, Ben, we had the late-edition category,
which was the biggest waste of fab or the worst waiver-wire pickup.
Did you have anything for this,
or did I throw this at you all too late?
Remember Benny Snell?
It's 19 rushes in week one.
James Conner.
Is James Conner hurt?
Is James Conner just sucking and he got benched?
Snell has 25 rushes since that game.
Hasn't gone over 20 yards since that game.
We were telling people 30, 40% on Snell.
He could be the next RB1.
I don't remember saying 30 or 40.
I don't think I remember even saying 20. I just looked at the notes. It was pretty bad for Snell. He could be the next RB1. I don't remember saying 30 or 40. I don't think I remember
even saying 20. I just looked at the
notes. It was pretty bad for Snell.
Otherwise, there's been some great pickups, but
Snell was bad.
I want to see how much he went for in our
podcast
because I'm looking at fantasy football today.
Our FFT league, he went for $0
to Jamie, but I'm pretty sure Jamie
got him on a Sunday
before the Conner injury, just on a
whim, basically.
I'm trying to find some other big bids
here that were bad.
$41 on Mike Davis.
That made sense. $40 on Devontae
Freeman. That made sense. Does
Dearness Johnson qualify? Yes.
After the Nick Chubb
injury.
That one did not work out.
Justin Jefferson's another good waiver wire guy.
$17 in this league.
Yeah.
All right.
$31 for Latavius Murray.
I don't know what that was all about.
Just looking at one league here.
So, okay.
I think Benny Snell was a pretty good call.
Good job, Ben. Proud of So, okay. I think Benny Snell was a pretty good call. Good job, Ben.
Proud of you, man.
Thanks.
I support all other Bens,
even if they suck
after week one.
Okay.
Moving on,
ladies and gentlemen,
to the Fantasy Cops.
Here we go.
This is from Weston.
I need your help in regulating the proper use of an IR spot.
My commissioner had Jalen Rager in his IR,
but was activated on Saturday.
But his lineup was already set,
so he was able to make it through Sunday,
keeping Rager on IR.
On our site, you are able to edit future lineups,
so his Week 9 lineup was also set with Rager on IR. And if he does you are able to edit future lineups, so his Week 9 lineup was also set with
Rager on IR. And if he does not make
any roster moves in Week 9, the site will not
force him to activate Jalen Rager.
I feel like this is a misuse of the IR
spot, but he says it's fair because the system
allows it and alleges other players have
done it before.
What do the fantasy cops have to say?
If a player is not on IR,
he should not be allowed to
stay stashed in an IR spot. If people have gotten away with crimes in the past,
they are still crimes in the future. This is not acceptable.
That is very well said. And I admit, I actually accidentally did that with Sterling Shepard
when he played that Thursday night game. I did not activate him and I apologize for that. I
cheated accidentally.
There's somebody in one of the leagues that we play in
who put a DST in his IR spot and got away with it.
Wow.
I won't say who it is.
I'm just going to have a drink.
Really?
Yeah.
Really?
Wow.
Okay, sorry.
Next one is from Matty G.
Last week, I found myself scrambling to find a streamable defense.
I dropped the Colts and I added...
Oh, this is from a couple of weeks ago, by the way.
Sorry.
I dropped the Colts who were on a buy
and I added Boston Scott with my waiver wire pickup
because I saw several streaming options at defense.
Washington, San Francisco, Tennessee, to name a few.
Figured I'd find a roster spot by Sunday. My opponent, after already starting the Eagles defense on Thursday, proceeded to
systematically add and drop five defenses, which put them all on waivers until after Sunday's games.
With very few streaming options, I traded Boston Scott to the Miles Sanders owner
for the Bucs defense.
My opponent claims it's a strategy recommended by a different podcast,
but the consensus around our league is that it's shady.
My question is, is this a shady practice
or acceptable strategy?
I know I put myself in the situation
by waiting to add a defense,
but I've done that many times
and never had this problem before.
We get a question like this several times a year.
It usually happens in the fantasy playoffs where a manager like this several times a year. It usually happens
in the fantasy playoffs
where a manager will add
and drop a bunch of kickers
or whatever
and put them all on waivers.
Fantasy cops,
what have you to say?
You should have in your rule book
that because it's so shady
and because there is intent
of this crime,
in the rule book it should say
if there's intent,
clear intent
of this occurrence where you're dropping 10 kick say if there's intent clear intent of this occurrence
where you're dropping 10 kickers dropping 10 quarterbacks you should have the option the
commissioner can override it allow the team to add one of the guys 100 a commissioner should allow
anything and any of those players to get picked up if the guy literally went through and added
and dropped one after the other after the other after, after the other. If a guy adds a defense on Wednesday
and then drops them by Saturday for a different defense,
that's different.
Kosher.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, totally.
Big difference there.
All right.
We got another Fantasy Cops question.
This comes from Apple Podcasts.
As we get into your Apple Podcast questions.
From Zach from Illinois.
Hey, Peyton, Marvin, Reggie, Jeff, Robert, and Dwight.
Colts.
Yes.
I am the commissioner in a redraft league
of 12 casual football fans.
I currently have it to where the commissioner
vetoes and approves all trades.
A fellow league member is one in six
and offering to trade his whole team to anyone.
Everyone in the league tells me I am a corrupt commissioner
if I veto a trade where both sides agree.
I have most recently approved a trade
that was Jamison Crowder for Saquon Barkley.
What do I do, cops?
You veto that trade because it's redraft
and Saquon Barkley is out for the year.
That should not be allowed to happen.
Agreed. That's obvious.
Why do people do this?
I would never be in a league
where someone would ever do that.
Because if I'm going to be given
Jamison Crowder for nothing,
I'm saying,
why would the guy who has
Saquon Barkley be doing this?
He's just,
he's one in six,
and he's just like,
ah, I'm just going to create
chaos in my league.
It's a really mean thing to do.
People want to play fantasy.
They want to have fun.
It's mean.
It's mean, I tell you.
I used to wonder the same thing, Adam.
And then I played,
my father played fantasy football for one year.
And when he was mathematically eliminated
from the playoffs,
he dropped everybody on his team.
It's mean.
I can't believe my dad did that.
Your dad is mean.
He is. No, believe my dad did that. Your dad is mean. He is.
No, you have to veto that.
Your league mates are wrong.
You have to veto that.
Thank you for the Fantasy Cops questions.
Keep them coming.
Grade the trade from Apple Podcasts from Ema.
Give Will Fuller.
Get Chase Edmonds.
My running backs are currently Singletary, Moss, and Mostert.
You got to do it. It's an ugly Mostert. You got to do it.
It's an ugly running back room.
You got to do it.
Yeah, you need to win this week.
You know Edmonds is going to play this week.
Maybe he'll have a feature role next week as well.
That sucks that you have to give up Fuller, but you have to do it.
I would say he could have the role the rest of the way,
but I wouldn't count on it.
You are overpaying for Edmonds.
Josh in the hometown of Richard Pryor. I don't count on it. You are overpaying for Edmonds. Josh in the hometown of Richard Pryor.
I don't know.
Where's Richard Pryor from, I wonder?
Ben, I'll tell you all about Richard Pryor after the show.
I give Zeke, Gio Bernard, and McLaurin.
Give Zeke, Gio, and McLaurin.
Get Michael Thomas.
No, this is a little outdated.
Miles Gaskin and Travis Fulgham.
Ooh.
If Gaskin was healthy, I would say it's an even deal,
but given Gaskin's injury, no thanks.
What if you just look at it as Zeke and McLaurin
for Michael Thomas and Travis Fulgham?
I think that feels fairly even.
I think it's, yeah. Yeah. Are we really buying into Fulgham. I think that feels fairly even.
Are we really buying into Fulgham that much? We are, right? You have to.
Of course.
From Mighty Reviewer,
give Robert Woods and Gio Bernard, get
Stefan Diggs.
Yes, please.
I think it works because
Gio's value is going to sink as soon as Joe
Mixon comes back.
Remember that schedule that I laid out for Josh Allen?
Obviously, that's the same schedule for Stefan Diggs.
Dave, we're thinking that's next week for Mixon?
Could be.
Yeah.
That's how I'm approaching it.
Because a lot of people are asking, can I drop Gio?
I think he's obviously one of the most valuable handcuffs.
It's just not certain.
So I wouldn't do it if I didn't have to.
Well, thank you all for listening.
Much appreciated.
We will have Starter Sit for the AFC home games tomorrow.
We will have Twitch tomorrow as well at 4 p.m. Eastern, twitch.com slash FFtoday.
For Ben Schrager and Dave Richard, I am Adam Azer.
Talk to you tomorrow.