Fantasy Football Today - Trade Talk, Titans-Packers, Fantasy Jeopardy! (11/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 16, 2022

Our favorite buy low (1:50) and sell high (8:25) players to get you ready for the stretch run! Are we ready to buy into David Montgomery with Khalil Herbert on IR? We love Justin Herbert going forwar...d, but what should the Justin Fields managers do? We also give you the news and notes (17:35) and react to the injuries to Dallas Goedert and Cooper Kupp ... We talk about rest of season value (25:35) for players like Deshaun Watson, Dameon Pierce, Jonathan Taylor, Allen Lazard, Deebo Samuel and Michael Pittman. Are they league winners? Must-starts? Probably-starts? Flex options? ... Previewing Titans-Packers (43:10) and playing some Fantasy Jeopardy (51:00)! Can Dave finally get in the win column? ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Trade deadlines are approaching. Lame. Extend them. Shouldn't be the same as it was before they added the extra game, right? Extend it. Get into early December with your trade deadlines. But we'll give you some trade advice.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Buy low, sell high. All that fun stuff. We're going to play a game, sort of, called League Winner, Must Start, Probably Start, or Flex. Not really a game, but it's a segment. And we are going to play an actual game fantasy jeopardy once again our defending yes our defending champ heath cummings is here welcome back heath hey thank you i am looking forward to the challenge really strong competition today um i will do my best is one of the categories, whatever Dave answers, is correct?
Starting point is 00:02:26 Would you like to know the categories, or do you want to be surprised? No, it doesn't matter. It's going to wipe the floor. I would like to know the categories. I'm sure one of them is what's the catch. I'm sure one of them has to do with movies. No. And then another one is something else.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I mixed them up today, but one of them is definitely a little bit more Dave-centric. Good. So, yeah. Ooh, excellent pizza toppings. No, you'll see. You'll see. All right. So, we also have a Thursday night game.
Starting point is 00:02:52 People who call Dave Dad. We also have a Thursday night game to talk about. Green Bay hosting Tennessee. And something you might not realize about Tennessee's defense. We'll tell you a lot of things you might not realize about Tennessee's defense. Okay, let's start with what we always start with on Wednesday, our favorite buy low, our favorite sell high. Heath, should Dave go first?
Starting point is 00:03:12 No, I think my favorite buy low, let's turn back the clock. Turn back the clock to an oldie but a goodie, David Montgomery. Oh, yeah. Actually, we have some pretty big news today. I'll at least tease it. We got the Khalil Herbert on IR. We got Dallas Goddard out for a while. And we got Cooper Cup on IR, which we were sort of bracing for.
Starting point is 00:03:34 But, okay, first time we're talking about the Bears here. What's that? Oh, and Ertz. Right, Ertz is out for the season. But we knew that yesterday, right? Yeah, but still. Okay. Part of the bloodbath of week 10.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Did you guys not update your rankings? Because I saw Montgomery was somewhere around RB20, which surprised me. Go ahead. Talk about David Montgomery. I think he's around 16 for me, 16 to 18. No, I think it's not been a very good year for him, and I don't know that he's necessarily going to be efficient
Starting point is 00:04:04 the rest of the year, but his main competition for touches is gone. You should expect David Montgomery to be the 20-touch running back that he has shown an ability to be in the past. This is not a disastrous Bears offense any longer. Justin Fields' mobility opens things up a little bit, and I think Montgomery has a chance to be a high-end number two running back for the rest of the season. Let's talk. I think we should talk a little bit more about this here.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Dave, what are your expectations for Montgomery's next four games, which will certainly be without Khalil Herbert are the Falcons, the Jets, the Packers and the Eagles. What do you think? I think the schedule is fine. I agree with Heath completely. And the only pushback I would give is that the people who have Montgomery and whether they have Herbert or not, they know that Herbert's out for the year. They know that Montgomery has a chance to be a startable running back, a number two guy that can propel them potentially into a playoff spot. So I don't think you're going to be able to get away
Starting point is 00:05:05 with paying what you would have had to pay last week, not by a long shot, for David Montgomery. Hold on. You said Herbert's out for the year. Did you misspeak there? No, four games. Right, he's out. Minimum.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Minimum four games, yes. Could be more. We don't know the specifics on the injury. Montgomery, you want to guess where he ranks per game? In what? 20 fantasy points? Yeah. 28.
Starting point is 00:05:30 Yeah. You wish. 39th and non, 42nd in full PPR. Oh, yeah, because he had the game with two carries or whatever. Take away that game, he'd be RB 36 per game, basically in both formats. So it's been a terrible year for him. But this is a team that has the fourth most running back carries in football,
Starting point is 00:05:52 just running back carries. And, you know, and Herbert was getting a pretty decent chunk of that. Tristan Ebner, any interest in adding him in a, Tristan Ebner in a deeper league? Yeah, for sure. All right. Would you rather have DeAndre Swift
Starting point is 00:06:06 or David Montgomery rest of season? I'll take Montgomery. Montgomery. Would you rather have Jeff Wilson or Montgomery? I think I'm ready to lean toward Wilson. I'd probably go Montgomery. It's funny because if Montgomery had been playing better, he's averaging, I think, 3.8, 3.9 yards per carry.
Starting point is 00:06:26 If he'd been playing better, if he were, he'd been Khalil Herbert. You, I'm sure you guys will be talking about him as a potential top five, top, maybe 10 at the worst running back, right?
Starting point is 00:06:35 With this opportunity. Is that it? Is that correct? Um, well, I mean, it depends on how well he was playing. If he had been playing like Khalil Herbert
Starting point is 00:06:46 if this had been the opposite does he have Khalil Herbert's target volume Khalil Herbert gets no targets but let's just say exactly that's what I'm saying if he doesn't have a role in the passing game then no he wouldn't be a top 5 or top 10 potential running back assuming David Montgomery had gone on IR
Starting point is 00:07:02 you'd rank Khalil Herbert a lot higher than you rank Montgomery, I assume. No. No? They'd be about the same, and I'm not sure he can handle that job in passing downs. I would probably have him a couple spots higher. All right. Dave, who's your favorite by-low?
Starting point is 00:07:17 My favorite by-low is Justin Herbert, who you might actually be able to still by-low on. He's getting his receivers back. Schedule for him upcoming isn't that bad. This is the team with the second highest pass rate on offense by one-tenth of a percentage point behind the Bucs, who might become more of a running team now all of a sudden. We don't know. We'll see.
Starting point is 00:07:42 So pass-friendly offense. Quarterback who's really good receivers coming back high scoring games ahead this is the quarterback to go trade for if you're trying if you've got quarterback issues and you don't want to overpay for fields for tua and there's no one on the waiver wire that you really like i agree 100 for dave my only criticism of this would be dave's criticism of what I said about David Montgomery. Which is that everybody knows that the receivers are coming back. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:11 He won't be cheaper than David Montgomery in trade, but I feel like people will be more... I don't think that that factor... because people knew that those receivers would come back anyway it's just that now they're coming back yes i think people might ask for a little bit more for herbert than they did a week ago or they would ask for a little bit more if there wasn't such certainty and there's still no guarantee by the way that williams and keenan allen are going to be back and there's no guarantee especially in the case of keenan allen that he's going to be his old self all of a sudden. He's got this hamstring issue that might last with him all year. Who knows? But I still, as long as one of those guys is there,
Starting point is 00:08:54 and really the one is Williams, I'm feeling a lot better about Justin Herbert. Gerald Everett, by the way, is day-to-day with his groin injury. I want to go back to Montgomery just because I saw an interesting question in the chat, if you wouldn't mind. What is the difference between David Montgomery and Brian Robinson? Montgomery is on a better offense and catches passes.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And is probably a half yard better per carry. I don't know if he's a half yard better per carry. And he's not splitting. I don't think Ebner is going to get the work Herbert got. I'd be surprised. Right? So Gibson is definitely a factor there.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Okay. So Montgomery's 3.8 yards per carry. Is Robinson better than 3.3? I don't think so. Oh, maybe you're right. I was underrating Montgomery there. Overrating Robinson. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:42 As you look that up, let's talk about our favorite sell-high guys. And Dave, you can go first. Who's your favorite sell-high? I had a lot of names for sell-high, and I struggled with finding sell-high guys this week. I've got three names where I think I can make an argument, but I don't know if I'd really want to slap my name on those players as saying that they're definitely sell-high guys.
Starting point is 00:10:04 So let me give you the one that i would put my name on and that's james connor not very sexy but he had a huge workload he's going to continue to have a huge workload we've seen what happens to him when he has a huge workload it's a cardinals offense that i still think is going to lean past as they move forward and not be in in these rare situations where the opponent they're playing can't do anything offensively leading to a favorable game script for james connor their schedule coming up it's the niners that's tough the chargers okay that's easy bye that's a zero patriots tough broncos not so easy tampa bay not
Starting point is 00:10:38 so easy so he's got one good matchup left in his next five six weeks man if you can turn him into if you can turn him into your team and you're good at that. Oh yeah. If you can turn him into Montgomery, I'll take Montgomery over Connor. Yeah. I would rather have James Connor. I just look back at the stretch last year after Chase Edmonds got hurt and the usage was almost exactly what it was last week. He averaged 3.5 yards per carry and was the number two running back in fantasy.
Starting point is 00:11:08 All touchdowns, right? No. Receiving work, too. I think when you reference those games where the other team does something on offense and they're playing from behind and go more pass heavy, it's just going to mean that he's catching five or six passes instead of three or four passes. There's no pass catching back either. He is going to – he's the guy. Well, I hope he gets those targets. I mean, he could, and four catches isn't a lot to ask for James Conner in those situations.
Starting point is 00:11:33 But we know that that receiving core is a lot better now than it was toward the end last season. And so I think there's some diversification that Kyler Murray, assuming he's healthy, can take advantage of. What's different? diversification that Kyler Murray, assuming he's healthy, can take advantage of. What's different? I still look at James Conner as mega volume dependent, plus he needs touchdowns. And I just don't feel confident that he can do that every single week like he did last week.
Starting point is 00:12:03 It's a role versus production thing, or at least efficiency. Role versus efficiency. Efficiency thing. Right, exactly. The role is un thing, or at least efficiency. Role versus efficiency. Efficiency thing. Right, exactly. The role is unquestionably great. The efficiency is awful. It has been for a year and a half now. But it may not matter. And I think people are going to be very split on that.
Starting point is 00:12:17 So you can decide which side of the fence you want to be on with James Conner. I don't know that there's really, other than one offense will probably score more points. I don't know that there's a big difference between James Conner and Joe Mixon. And yet, there's no chance in the world that you could offer the same thing for Conner as you would for Mixon. Oh, you can get Conner a lot cheaper.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Way, like, less than half the price. Right. Yeah, I would hope that Mixon can... hope that i disagree too i think mixon's got more upside and more efficiency that's it i mean mixon's had such a bad year but hopefully he can turn it around but you know agreed he hasn't given us a lot of hope about that he's had a few good games including his most recent one uh all right dave or heath rather who's your favorite sell high i think it's um i mean it's the guy that we were really excited about two weeks ago because of how great his schedule was,
Starting point is 00:13:08 and he's been the number one quarterback in fantasy since. It's Justin Fields. This is one of the names that I like, too. You can make the argument. Sure, go for it. Yeah. I'd love to see what type of starter I could get to trade Justin Fields for Herbert and add a high-end number two
Starting point is 00:13:28 running back or wide receiver in the deal. I think he's probably QB7, QB8 rest of season, but he still has his buy. He has an awful schedule. Sometimes with these great players, when you're trading them, you're thinking, man, I'm trading him to another playoff team. I don't want to face this guy in the playoffs. I might be okay facing him in the playoffs against the Eagles or the Bills. I might be all right with it. I hear people talking about him or read, I guess, on Twitter about how, man, I guess I'll trade Josh Allen away or I'll trade Lamar Jackson away. I've got Justin Fields now. I don't have needs for those guys. People are viewing him
Starting point is 00:14:05 as either the number one quarterback rest of season or a top three quarterback rest of season, which means you could get the moon for him. 85 fantasy points in his last two games combined. People are going gaga. It's awesome. I love it. I was the Justin Fields guy this summer, but go sell him for the moon and make your team better but don't sell him just to sell him no for the moon yeah well the best part about him is that he's everybody's number two quarterback right i mean how many people have a lot of people have lamar and fields to uh and fields you know so that dude i've got've got Josh Allen and I started Fields last week and it saved me from having a sweat. I had I wanted a blowout.
Starting point is 00:14:49 I keep asking this, but I'll ask one more time since you brought up Fields. Do matchups matter? Scored 30 points against the Cowboys two weeks ago or three weeks ago, I guess. No, the only thing that I would say is eventually he's going to run into a defense that tries to keep him in the pocket. And they defend him like they used to defend Lamar Jackson in the year after his MVP season. And that didn't even work out that great for defenses. But he's a good passer on top of it.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I think he might be a better passer than Lamar Jackson. Oh, my God. No, you did not just go there. I'm telling you, I think he can get there. He's made some really good throws over the last several weeks. I can... Yes, but he is not currently. He is not there.
Starting point is 00:15:31 Okay. I mean, I'm sure you watched the film. I did, too. He's doing a great job creating... The interception was ugly. There's no question. Yeah, the interception was bad. Trying to make a play.
Starting point is 00:15:41 He's going to make some bad throws. The thing is, he runs around, he extends plays, and guys get wide open, right? Because you can't cover for that long. And this isn't a criticism or anything like that. This is a strength. This is a strength. His legs are making him a better passer right now.
Starting point is 00:15:58 But there's obviously some ugly throws in there. He sits in the pocket. It'll make some bad throws. But it doesn't matter. It really doesn't matter. And Lamar has some ugly throws, too. Yeah. His speed is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Agreed. He can run for a hundred yards on any team. So I wouldn't want to face him in the playoffs, but I do definitely see the merit in selling when, if you have another quarterback, you can rely. Now, I think if you have Tom Brady,
Starting point is 00:16:21 if you have anyone, that's not a top seven quarterback and Justin Fields, I'm not sure I'm selling him because, you know, I'm not. Well, I think a play is to if you if that's the case, the play is to trade him for another top seven quarterback and and more. Yeah. All right. So why don't we try and define this?
Starting point is 00:16:38 I'm going to lob you some offers. If you tell me whether you'd accept you have fields. I have Justin Herbert and Deontay Foreman. No, I'd like Justin. Can I have Justin Herbert and James Conner? Yeah, you'd rather have Conner than Foreman. Oh, yeah. Okay. What about if it's Leonard
Starting point is 00:16:55 Fournette instead of James Conner? No. Justin Herbert and this would be a good time for me to create a shirt open. No, you cannot. That's way too much. Devin Singletary and Justin Herbert.
Starting point is 00:17:16 It's got to be a high-end number two or it's got to be a top 16-ish type player. I think we value Connor very differently. Oh, yeah, for sure. I think I need to know how the general public views Conor and whether they believe how you believe. Do a Twitter poll. Go for it. I'm going to have to do it. Do it right now and let us know. One other thing. I know that Lamar is a better passer right now than Fields, but I think Fields can be better down the line.
Starting point is 00:17:40 That's totally fine. He's still young and making mistakes. Could I get Lamar Jackson and Rondell Moore? Now, okay, Rondell Moore is interesting. On PPR, I think you can make that happen. It's very obvious that right now Rondell Moore is a stud, a must-start. Stud, I don't know if he's a stud, but he's a must-start in PPR. What happens when Marquise Brown comes back? What does Rondell Moore become?
Starting point is 00:18:02 Well, I think it really is very helpful that zach urch just went away and that's his situation like this role i agree for the slot wide receiver has been so consistent that i think it's far more likely that the tight end role diminishes than the slot role diminishes in that scenario okay um because they get targeted in the same area of the field yeah all right uh let's move on here we'll give you some more trade talk in a little bit. And if you love DFS, well, if you don't,
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Starting point is 00:18:55 Dallas Goddard is going to miss multiple weeks with a shoulder injury. He could end up on IR. Their next four games are the Colts, Packers, Titans, and Giants. So what changes here, Heath, with Dallas Goddard on the shelf for the foreseeable future? I think it's a slight downgrade for Jalen Hurts. It's probably a slight upgrade for Miles Sanders. And it's a little more consistency, hopefully, for Devonta Smith. There's no Eagles tied in. I'm not starting Jack Stoll or anybody else that plays tied in for
Starting point is 00:19:28 the Eagles. You just hope that the peaks and valleys we've seen from Devonta Smith turned into more peaks and plateaus. Okay. And do you think AJ Brown is a top 10 wide receiver or top five? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Would you guys rather have Amonra St. Brown or AJ St. Brown?
Starting point is 00:19:52 AJ. Full PPR, I think I'd go with ARSP. All right. Cooper Cupp's going to have ankle surgery. He's on IR. He could return late this season. The most valuable pass catcher on the Rams will be
Starting point is 00:20:07 blank. I refuse to answer because I do not believe any of them will be valuable. But the one who I think has the most upside and is the most available is Van Jefferson. He's a pass catcher. Tyler Higby. That's where I was leaning to.
Starting point is 00:20:24 I don't know if it was score related or cup related, but this is a guy who wasn't running a lot of routes, and that continued through the first three quarters. And in the fourth quarter, he ran a bunch of routes. He had four catches after the cup injury. There you go. I think that might have been. Again, they were trailing, and I think they're going to be trailing.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Weren't they trailing in the first three quarters or part they were but they were in obviously they got so much of their production on their final drive I think they were down by 14 points or 17 points and uh Kyron Williams got all four of his touches Van Jefferson got his touchdown uh their their numbers were so much worse even before that drive but I do do think Higby, hopefully he gets back into that must-start tight end discussion, at least as a low-end PPR guy. Khalil Herbert on IR. Najee Harris has knee discomfort. Keep an eye on that.
Starting point is 00:21:16 Make sure Jalen Warren is added. Houston claimed Eno Benjamin off waivers. Matthew Stafford still in the concussion protocol. Oh, the Packers released Amari Rogers. Very sad. Guy can't stop fumbling. Ron Rivera. Oh, what is this?
Starting point is 00:21:30 Just say Taylor Heineke is your guy. He didn't commit to Taylor Heineke remaining a quarterback. They have won four games in a row. Are you kidding me? He also did not commit to activating Chase Young, although that is expected to happen, according to Adam Schefter. Chase Young should be back this week at Houston.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Tennessee cornerback Caleb Farley. This kind of made headlines. He's a big name. He's a first-round pick, but he's not really a starter for them. He's mostly a special teams player. He's out for the year. Or he's on IR. I'm not sure if he's out for the year.
Starting point is 00:21:57 Tennessee got very good news, though, on the practice report. Bud Dupree still missed practice, but cornerback Christian Fulton, defensive tackle Jeffrey Simmons, safety Imani Hooker, they were all limited in practice as they have the short week, the Thursday game at Green Bay. And Greg Allman of The Athletic thinks
Starting point is 00:22:12 that Rashad White will remain the starting running back after the bye. We're going to talk about Leonard Fournette in just a moment. Right now, let's talk about the holidays. You guys ready for the holidays? Excited for the holidays? Sure.
Starting point is 00:22:25 Always. yes. Thanksgiving is a little bit of a stress ball for me. I don't know. Is that way for you? It's just a lot of work. Three games and Thanksgiving. It's a lot. I have to travel the day before Thanksgiving.
Starting point is 00:22:39 You do? Then it's Thanksgiving, yes. Then it's Thanksgiving with the in-laws in Chicago. Oh, okay. Then then it's Thanksgiving with the in-laws in Chicago. And then spending half the weekend there. And then the mad rush to the airport to get back before Sunday's games. Yeah, it's a little hectic. Plus, there's no buys that week, right? Just a lot of work, a lot of teams, a lot of players.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Anyway, it's still fun. And, of course, it's the time to sit back, and Dave's going to tell you. He's going to be with his family at Thanksgiving, have a little bit of a Miller Lite. Tis the season to get together with good friends and great drinks. Tis Miller time. Yes, the holidays can be stressful, as we just mentioned,
Starting point is 00:23:18 but all the more reason to raise a glass or a can, keep things uncomplicated, Dave. Raise that Miller Lite. It's so true. I'm on a text chain with the family, and things uncomplicated, Dave. Raise that Miller Lite. It's so true. I'm on a text chain with the family and they're talking about, okay, what do we want to drink during Thanksgiving this year?
Starting point is 00:23:30 We've got this really great wine from Napa Valley and we've got this other something from somewhere else. And I'm not even responding to the text chain. I just know that at some point, Wednesday night, I'm going to slip out of my in-law's house, steal my mother-in-law's car, drive down to the grocery store and pick up a little six pack of Miller Lite. And that'll be for me. I will hide it. So my brother-in-law cannot get to it.
Starting point is 00:23:59 And I just want something that's just, you said it, it's simple. Plus, it's low calorie. So I don't have to really think about, oh, I'm going to have to, you know, I don't really jog. You're not going to be worried about calories. I don't have to go jogging in the morning or anything. I don't have to be fatter because of what I'm drinking. It's only, you know, it's under 100 calories a can. And it's easy and it's smooth.
Starting point is 00:24:21 And it's going to be great going with the turkey and the mash. It's Miller Lite.'s smooth and it's going to be great going with the turkey and the mash. It's Miller Lite. Great taste, 96 calories. Go to MillerLite.com slash FFT to find delivery options near you so you can give the gift of Miller Time this holiday season. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Tis Miller Time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin.
Starting point is 00:24:41 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. All right. Back to, yeah. We're going to play a grade the Twitter poll, Adam. Okay. Because Dave and I both made Twitter polls to estimate James Connors' value. My Twitter poll is pick one rest of season, full PPR, James Connors, DeAndre Swift, or David Montgomery. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Dave, do you want to give the verbiage on your Twitter poll? How do you feel about James Conner in fantasy after week 10? I want him on my team. It's okay if he's on my team. Don't want him on my team. I think they're both great. I'm giving them both A's. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:25:20 And they give content. Now let's give the results. What's your results, Dave? I've got, it's okay if he's on my team at 51.4%. And I'm on the magic wall here, and I'm moving things up and down. I want him on my team, 30.8%. So a huge majority is at least okay having James Conner on their fantasy team. 17.8% don't want him on my team. So a large majority also doesn't really care if they have on their team i would have voted for i'm fine with i'm
Starting point is 00:25:52 okay with yeah i'm okay with the team means yeah yeah they're they're fine with them i want to hear your results i didn't even know you made the poll i thought i was the one making the poll. I thought it was my poll, not your poll. Connor is at 38%. Montgomery is at 33%. Swift is at 21%. Yeah, I knew Swift would be last. I'm sorry, Montgomery's at what? Connor, 38. Montgomery, 33.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Swift, 21. Yeah, it's pretty interesting. Midweek trade chart edit? Those aren't people that people like. So I'm trying to think of guys that are maybe slightly above James Conner to see. Ramondre Stevenson? Yeah, we're going to talk about him in a second, too. Oh, I think I'd rather have Ramondre.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Maybe Jamal Williams? What about Damian Pierce? Okay, I'll run those two. Ramondre Stevenson, Damian Pierce, and James Conner. I think Pierce will run away with it. I do too. Damian Pierce, by the way, has 117 or more total yards in five of his last six games.
Starting point is 00:26:57 But he is part of our next segment, which is league winner, must start, probably start, or flex. League winner, must start, probably start, or flex? League winner, must start, probably start, or flex? There's only one quarterback on here. He can't be a flex, but Deshaun Watson, league winner, must start,
Starting point is 00:27:12 or probably start? You're probably going to start Deshaun Watson, assuming that your other quarterback isn't a stud, must start. Lay out a scenario that it's week 13 and Heath's right justin fields comes
Starting point is 00:27:26 back down to earth the people who have justin fields and maybe picked up deshaun watson they're gonna have to make a decision on who to start between those two and watson has the texans it's a great matchup uh just because the texans they're terrible against the run so maybe it's a just get your feet wet game for what's a revenge game and it's a oh he played for the texans i didn't know that but think about that his first game in in almost two years and it's against the texans he's probably yeah the nfl knew how to get that going go ahead yeah no chance i'm starting him in his very first game i'm hopeful that he's a he's a he's probably start but i'm not starting him in his first game like i saw him in the preseason. I need to see him play good football first.
Starting point is 00:28:06 He was terrible, and he looked uninterested. What if your other option is Russell Wilson? I mean, there's lots of time between now and then to change that. Well, here's the thing. Think about all the quarterbacks going to new teams or getting new coaches. It has really taken a while for them. Kirk Cousins has it's been fine, but actually very encouraging, by the way,
Starting point is 00:28:28 with Kirk Cousins. I didn't know how I was going to fit this in, but I'll just say right now, his last two games since the bye, by far his most air yards. He's finally throwing the ball downfield. But Kirk Cousins, Matt Ryan, Derek Carr, Carson Wentz, Russell Wilson,
Starting point is 00:28:41 some of these guys may not be that good, but it has taken time for these guys to adjust to new systems, new coaches, new offenses. So that's really the question is, who is Deshaun Watson when he comes back? Is he Deshaun Watson? Because that was a top five quarterback,
Starting point is 00:28:53 one of the best players in football. Or is there going to be an adjustment period? That's really the question. So league winner, must start or probably start Deshaun Watson. I'm not starting his first game back. He will be a maybe start. All right. Thank you guys for answering with two
Starting point is 00:29:10 things that were not on the menu. I was joking. Maybe your options weren't so good. It's legit. I was joking. All right. Damian Pierce. He has 12.2 to 15.7 PPR fantasy points in four straight games.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Is Damian Pierce a league winner? Must start. Probably start or flex. Must start. I'd qualify him as a must start as well. Holding just short of calling him a league winner, but he was the type of player that you picked in the middle of the late rounds and has turned out to be somebody who's helped you get to this,
Starting point is 00:29:45 hopefully, a winning record in fantasy. That's kind of the definition of a league winner. Not quite the definition. You've got to be great in the playoffs, obviously, but someone who helps you win your league. I don't want to think of it as... Yeah, okay. Just to clarify the terms. I don't want to think of it as
Starting point is 00:30:01 Damian Pierce is a league winner because of where you drafted him or a guy like Ramondre Stevenson we're going to talk about next. I'm just mean from this point forward, you know, what is he? Ramondre Stevenson. Is he a league winner? Must start? Probably start or flex? I guess I need some
Starting point is 00:30:18 further clarification on the difference between league winner and must start. Okay, so Ramondre Stevenson over his last seven games has been a league winner. He has been the number eight running back per game in half PPR, the number six running back per game in full PPR. I would say that Jamal Williams has been a probably start.
Starting point is 00:30:39 What did I say? Yeah, a probably start. League winner and must start, I guess, are a little vague. But I think league winner implies sort of like fantasy superstar. And must start implies... Who would be a must start? Mike Evans would be a must start.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Give me a surefire league winner is Christian McCaffrey. DeAndre Hopkins is a league winner. Mike Evans is a must start. Okay. Is that fair? Yes. Okay. So, Ramondre Stevenson. must start. Okay. Is that fair? Is that? Yes. Okay. So Ramond, Dre Stevenson must start. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:10 He, you think he will be a little worse going forward? Yeah, there's potential for it because Damian Harris will be there. He'll take some work away. I think the Patriots love Ramond, Dre Stevenson. I think they're, they're at the point where they trust him the most.
Starting point is 00:31:27 They want him out there the most. And the passing downs work. I mean, he's getting so much production there. It's great. We'll see if Montgomery becomes a factor. All right. Alvin Kamara, league winner. Must start.
Starting point is 00:31:38 Probably start or flex. Here's another player who was on the, I don't want to say you should sell high on him and he's not quite a sell high but maybe you consider trading him away because jamis figures to be back eventually his his target rate with jamis is half that of with dalton almost half there's no like one percentage point different i think he's still a must start fantasy running back even with the schedule coming up even with the offensive line right now not being in great shape he has 12 and 11 touches in his last two games 62 and 45 yards and he has only scored one week this entire season
Starting point is 00:32:21 yep yeah oh so this is Kamara we're talking about. So the league winner must start probably starter flex. I'm going to leave him in the must start conversation, but there's really not very much at all about his recent performance that justifies that. I will give you though, a few reasons to be optimistic. Dave mentioned the target share lower with Jameis Winston.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Also, Michael Thomas played in those games and Kamara was not exactly healthy at the beginning of the year. He left at least one of those games with an injury. He played kind of a normal snap share, but he had some issues. Right, yes. Two games with Winston. Yeah, two games with Winston. Michael Thomas played
Starting point is 00:32:58 in both of those. He played in the first three games. And I have no... In his career, there's been a big difference in targets with and without Michael Thomas in the last two games. They've been bad, right? They've been 9.2 and 7.5 PPR fantasy points. They have been terrible offensively against the Ravens and the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:33:15 They scored 23 combined points. They had the ball for 22 minutes in one game, 21 minutes in the other game. That that's just so bad. Winston could hopefully juice them up a little bit, and they'd have a normal game script, a normal time of possession because the previous four games, he was
Starting point is 00:33:31 a league winner. But also, he did score all three of his touchdowns in one game against the Ravens. Keep that in mind with Jonathan Taylor, who we're going to talk about next. Against the Raiders. And his next three games are Rams, 49ers, Tampa Bay. That's no good.
Starting point is 00:33:47 That's no good. All right. So things could get better, but the schedule gets worse. All right. So you guys are going to say Kamara is still a must start, not a league winner. Jonathan Taylor just had a huge game. It was against the Raiders. What do you think going forward for Jonathan Taylor?
Starting point is 00:34:03 He's at the other end of the must-start spectrum than Alvin Kamara. Kamara was at the tail end of the must-starts, where one more bad game, and you're going to put him in the probably start. Taylor is one good game away from going back to being a league winner. I'm going to say league winner because I'm just looking at the playoffs and he has the chargers and the giants in week 16 and week 17. And I think he could be the number one running back in fantasy for the last two weeks of the season. If that's not a league winner,
Starting point is 00:34:35 then I don't know what is. And I think the other hope is that Matt Ryan could give him four plus catches a game in a, in a head to last week, but they didn't throw that much. They play Philadelphia. They got, you know, but they didn't throw that much. They played Philadelphia. They got some high scoring teams coming up. And that was a valuable role
Starting point is 00:34:51 in the Matt Ryan led offense. Leonard Fournette, league winner, must start, probably start or flex? Flex. Flex at best for him. Who would you rather have rest of season rashad white or leonard fournette rashad white flip a coin um like i think it's probably rashad white that's the way to lean right now but i do think it's just worth remembering that even though rashad white started last week when leonard fournette got, he had been far more productive and far more efficient than Rashad White. White had one
Starting point is 00:35:29 long run after Fournette got hurt. How about Chris Godwin? League winner, must start, probably start or flex. Last week convinced me to put him back in the must start. League winner for Heath. yeah he loves chris godwin i'm just gonna stick with my idea that godwin should continue to get better as the season goes on and i i could not care less that he's only scored one touchdown all season so um league winner what was his yards per catch oh last sunday well i was gonna say say, I've got it right here. 10 point. Uh, no, 11.11 and a little more than 11,
Starting point is 00:36:07 right? Six for 71. First time in a while. That's been that high. Well, I have two more, even better stats. What am I always bitching about with Chris Goblin and route depth is route
Starting point is 00:36:18 depth, right? Season. That changed. That definitely changed against Seattle season. High route depth. Second highest aid out of the season. I think that's an encouraging sign.
Starting point is 00:36:26 And, by the way, he has been, over the last seven games, his last seven games since returning from injury, he has the third-most targets, fourth-most catches, twelfth-most yards among wide receivers. Go ahead, Heath. Yeah, his yards per catch was 12.5
Starting point is 00:36:42 in Week 8 against Baltimore and 15.8 in Week 6 against Pittsburgh. Okay. Alan Lazard, league winner, must start, probably start, or flex? Alan Lazard. Probably start. He's right next to Alvin Kamara on the fence between must start and probably start.
Starting point is 00:37:00 I can't fault him for one bad game. Literally his second worst game of the season was against the Cowboys. He's been pretty money as a number two wide receiver. I still say he's a must start. The one thing that's really interesting about him, because it's his second worst game, and it's also two out of his last three. The whole 100 yards
Starting point is 00:37:28 or a touchdown in every game, it's really worked out well for him. If you don't think of it that way and just look at the yardage totals, he has games of 13, 45, 35, 55, 45 this season. I just want to eliminate the 55 game
Starting point is 00:37:45 because he left with an injury. He had six catches for 55 yards on seven targets and he played 60% of the snaps, which is not bad, but he usually plays almost every snap. So let's take that one out.
Starting point is 00:37:56 So half of his games have been 45 yards or fewer if you don't count the 55 one. Yeah. There's no disputing that. I thought he was kind of getting on a roll with the yardage.
Starting point is 00:38:08 And then last week, as I've said 16 times, he got shadowed by Trayvon Diggs. Well, we'll see what happens here. His best path is the James Jones role. Sure. I mean, isn't that what he's been doing? Yeah. That's not... you I know I know at the very least Alan Lazard's a probably start
Starting point is 00:38:30 how about we'll do two more Debo Samuel we hesitate don't we probably start might be a flex by next week though he scored fewer than 16 PPR fantasy Probably start. Might be a flex by next week, though. He scored fewer than 16 PPR fantasy points in three games in 2021.
Starting point is 00:38:50 That has happened six times in eight games in 2022. However, his efficiency metrics are pathetic. They will definitely come up. He'll be better. Oh, by the way, Brandon Ayuk has got to be a sell high. Look at what he's done the last four games. 80 plus yards every game. He's catching almost every target.
Starting point is 00:39:09 He could not continue to produce like this with seven targets a game. You guys agree or disagree? I agree, especially this week with so many players on buy. I wonder if you could turn Ayuk. What would you have to throw in with Ayuk to get Lockett or DK? Probably not that much. And then you just eat the in with Iyuk to get Lockett or DK? Probably not that much. And then you just eat the pie with those two guys. You might be able to do the same thing with Evans or Godwin.
Starting point is 00:39:32 So if you're rich at receiver in week 11 and Iyuk is one of those receivers, that's a move you can make to kind of boost somebody on their wide receiver conundrums. I have no idea what the perceived value of Brandon Ayuk is. True. Would you like my answer on that? Yeah. I would assume he's valued as wide receiver 24. Wide receiver 22.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Yeah, I think if we're worried about Debo Samuel, then we should be selling high on Brandon Ayuk. It's not like Ayuk is getting a lot more targets than him. You don't think he can be wide receiver 24? I mean, here's the thing. Because he's been a lot better than that. Here's the thing. Before these last four games, he was looking like a drop.
Starting point is 00:40:19 We were talking about him on the drop-o-meter. You know, there's so many mouths to feed. If they have good defense, they throw 28 times a game. The case is simple. And then wide receiver 24? Sure, he probably can be that, but I just don't think he has top 12 upside. I do think
Starting point is 00:40:38 Metcalf and Lockett have top 12 upside. I don't think they're going to get there, but at least they have that potential. I would make that trade personally. Oh, yeah. I mean, I don't think anybody would give you Tyler Lockett for brand IU. They probably wouldn't give you DK. No, I think DK's perceived value is much higher than IU's.
Starting point is 00:40:56 It might because of the buy, though. That's the thing. You've got to attack the fantasy manager who's got a player you want that's on a buy and needs a win this week. It really is a very good strategy. All right. Last one. Michael Pittman, league winner, must start, probably start, or flex at best? League winner.
Starting point is 00:41:19 No. Flex at best. Oh. I think he's a probably start. You think Paris Campbell is better than him, Dave? Statistically, he has been. Who do you think will be better the rest of the season?
Starting point is 00:41:37 You got to say Pittman, right? You don't have to say Pittman. I think the general consensus is that it's Pittman, though. Well, what do you think? I mean, who are you taking, Pittman or Campbell? I think... So this is one where the...
Starting point is 00:41:56 Heath has always brought up that, is the trade chart my opinion or what I think the general public thinks? Campbell, I don't believe, is even on the trade chart. He should be. Pittman is. I'll say Pittman, but there's a piece of me that thinks that it's Campbell. And when you say Paris Campbell has been better than him statistically,
Starting point is 00:42:15 you mean last week or in Matt Ryan's last three games? It's the Ryan's last three games, and that's what the situation is now, is that Matt Ryan's the quarterback. When Ellinger was playing, nobody was particularly good. Right, but for the season with Matt Ryan, Pittman's been better than Campbell. Sure, he had a great start at the beginning of the year. Campbell did not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:33 All right, let's go to break. I want to give a quick shout-out to the St. Jude Best Ball Invitational. Caleb Skaggs, still on top, holding a five-point lead over John Prorock. I'm sorry if I definitely mispronounced your name. Matthew Valdez, Josh Shearer close behind. And I will tell you, I have now finished second and third out of over 300
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Starting point is 00:43:09 When we come back, we still got to talk about Tennessee Green Bay and play some Fantasy Jeopardy and hopefully have time for your emails. We'll be right back on Fantasy Football today. Did you know 66% of utility damage is caused by not requesting a locate? Don't let your project become part of this statistic a quick locate request can save you from unexpected downtime financial penalties and keep you safe don't let avoidable damage cost you time and money click before you dig ensure your next project is safe visit ontarioonecall.ca it's free it's easy it's the law data sourced from the orcga 2023 dirt The Titans are at the Packers.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah. Genuinely excited for this game. I'm not going to give it the blah sound. And Tennessee's defense has been really damn good. The Bills are the only team that has scored more than 22 points against the Titans. And in their first five games, they were 31st in passing yards per attempt allowed. In their last four games, they're fourth. The competition's gotten a little easier, but not that much easier.
Starting point is 00:44:19 They're not giving up as many big plays. And the main thing, I talked about it last week, they don't blitz, and they still pressure the quarterback. They have one of the best pass rushes. It's crazy. So we should keep that in mind. I personally, Dave, don't think we should just consider this a layup matchup for the Packers.
Starting point is 00:44:40 And I feel like people probably do. And I've been saying, Tennessee, great matchup, great matchup. Got to reevaluate a little bit here. What do you think? I agree. You look at how they've played the last four games. They've definitely gotten better on those deep throws that you talk about. A much lower completion rate on those plays. And I kind of want to throw out the Jalen Virgil catch from last week because I just don't think that those breakdowns happen that often. And they're getting healthier. They're going to have, in theory, you mentioned it earlier in the show, Simmons will play, Fulton will play, Hooker will play. They need these additions. They
Starting point is 00:45:15 need those guys back. It does make it a little bit tougher on the Packers to do what they want to do. But I think the Packers have a hard time doing what they want to do, no matter what the opponent is. Getting a team that can get to Rodgers rushing only four, that's going to be tough. And by the way, do you know what their pass rush pressure rate was last week without Simmons and without Dupree? It was eighth best or something in the league, and
Starting point is 00:45:37 they hit Russell Wilson 18 times. That's crazy. Even better than eighth best. I know. And obviously the line is stunk for Denver, but they're making things difficult. So let's get into the starts and sits here. Is Derrick Henry the only Titan you want to start? Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Oh, yeah. Do we have to spend any time on Hooper or Tannehill as streamers? I do not want to. Hooper might get you nine PPR points. Okay. He's been involved a little bit more lately with Tannehill. And the one game where Malik Willis had to throw against Kansas City, he got some work there too.
Starting point is 00:46:12 So let's talk about Aaron Rodgers then. Starter set? Heath, Aaron Rodgers. I would rather not, but he's going to be in that 10 to 12 range in the rankings. We've got four guys that we'd rather start over him on a buy this week. This, I do think, is one of those hit-the-button games. I mean, it's got an over-under of 41.
Starting point is 00:46:33 You've got a Packers team that just always plays slow and a Titans team that would like to run about 17 plays, 16 of them being Derrick Henry runs. I don't think this is going to be a high scoring game at all. You're hoping Rogers hits one of those deep shots to Christian Watson, or it just turns out that the two touchdowns they score both happen to be passing touchdowns. Any hesitation on Aaron Jones?
Starting point is 00:46:58 Not for me. No hesitation on Aaron Jones. Can I give you a quick Rogers stat? Yeah. When his completion rate is north of 70%, he's three and oh, when it's 66% or lower, he's one in six. The one win was their overtime went over the Patriots when Bailey Zappy was commanding the Patriots offense. When Rogers yards per attempt is 7.0 or higher, he's three and oh, when it's under that he's one in six, you know, the game that he won. So pretty simple stats to think about. And maybe it's under that he's one in six you know the game that he won so pretty simple stats
Starting point is 00:47:26 to think about and maybe it's it's obvious the titans do allow a completion rate of 68 it's pretty close to 70 i think if rogers has a clean game he will have good enough numbers for fantasy and enough to have green Bay win. Okay. Rogers or Kirk cousins against the Cowboys cousins. Same Rogers or Marcus Mariota against the bears. Oh, Rogers. I have Rogers a spot higher than Mario.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I know he feels a lot differently about Mariota Rogers or Russell Wilson against the Raiders. I'm not starting Russell Wilson. He's more of a desperation play for me, a quarterback. I'll take Rodgers. Yeah, I have them
Starting point is 00:48:11 very, very close. I think projections-wise I have Wilson higher and ranking-wise I have Rodgers one spot higher, but I think you could flip a coin.
Starting point is 00:48:18 They're both guys who have had very bad seasons. Wilson has a much better matchup. Rodgers, obviously, has been a little bit better lately. Garoppolo or Rodgers?
Starting point is 00:48:29 Last one. They're close. I have Garoppolo higher. I'm going to go with Jimmy. And even though we did this yesterday, well, I'll throw in some more names. Rank Ryan Tannehill with Russell Wilson, Derek Carr,
Starting point is 00:48:44 and Taylor Heineke. All of them over Tannehill. All right. Agreed. Okay. Aaron Jones, you're going to start. A.J. Dillon, you're going to sit. Alan Lazard or Christian Watson?
Starting point is 00:48:54 Who do you like better? I'll take the safety of Lazard over the upside slash downside boom bus nature of Christian Watson. Yeah. Um, I generally liked the boom bust guy, but it was just one game for Watson. So I'm going to go with Lazard over Watson as well. They're both low end.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Number two. It's, it's more than just it being one game. He made a bunch of mistakes in the game. His, his first two routes, he dropped the pass. The first two routes he ran, he got targeted.
Starting point is 00:49:26 They wanted to get him involved. Rodgers, they desperately need somebody who can attack downfield. And he proved that he can do that. If he can do it again, he's going to change the way defenses play against the Packers and can open things up for everybody else. That's exciting to think about, and that could help Aaron Rodgers quite a bit. But he really has to keep proving himself, especially because he makes so many mistakes, slowing down when the ball is coming his way, where if he doesn't slow down, he has another touchdown. The drops that I mentioned, the varied routes,
Starting point is 00:50:00 he really only seemed to run like three or four different routes in the game. But he can separate. He can really fly. He's really tall. He's really big. There is some great upside with him that I'm willing to start him in some situations, but when you line him up against Lazard, I feel like the safer pick is the way to go on Thursday night.
Starting point is 00:50:21 Let's line him up against some other players. Christian Watson or Darnell Mooney? Watson has more players. Christian Watson or Darnell Mooney? Watson has more upside. Christian Watson or Curtis Samuel? Watson has more upside. Watson. Just because he has more upside doesn't mean you should start him.
Starting point is 00:50:35 It does in these cases. Watson or Paris Campbell? Watson. I'll take Campbell. Watson or Tyler Boyd? Boyd. They are back to back. As of now, I have Watson one spot higher than Boyd.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Deebo Samuel or Christian Watson? Gotta go with Deebo. Watson. Whoa. Whoa. Wow. Okay. Watson and PPR. Deebo and non all right and sit tonyan yeah yeah please i hope i didn't oversell the titans defense i just want to point out how well
Starting point is 00:51:16 they're doing lately i think it'd be okay if you did because i i think for the entirety of mike vrabel's career um we and everybody else have undersold the Titans' defense. We always say they're fluky and they're not actually as good as their record. It just turns out he's one of the best coaches in the NFL. They're a low-end starting unit. I would take the chance on them
Starting point is 00:51:37 if I'm in bye week hell. I feel like they're going to win. They're three-point underdogs, which is shocking. The Packers can't stop the run i yeah i don't know it's a good spread all right this is fantasy jeopardy finally here we go and be sure to check out the jeopardy tournament of champions weeknights and for more head over to jeopardy.com slash toc 2022 where you can find the daily box scores and stats for each game and you can always listen
Starting point is 00:52:06 to the Inside Jeopardy podcast for game analysis and other fun info. I hate Jeopardy fans. Here we go. So we have three categories. Here are the rules. You have to say your name
Starting point is 00:52:16 to buzz in. There are no penalties for wrong guesses. I'm not going to do a daily double today. And we have nine answers on the board. You must answer in the form of a question.
Starting point is 00:52:26 If you don't or if you get it wrong, you will hear this sound. And we have three categories for 200, 400, and 600. The first category, well, you can go whichever way you want. Famous Daves or Famous Richards. Last three weeks
Starting point is 00:52:43 and players drafted in round eight or later so heath you are the reigning champion the board is yours would you like famous daves or famous richards last three weeks or players drafted in round eight or later famous daves or famous richards for 600 please this friendly guy insisted they were on who yeah d, Dave? Who is David Schwimmer? Correct. Stop the game. Let's just end it right now. This friendly guy insisted they were on a break
Starting point is 00:53:12 is where I was going with that. All right, Dave. Okay, Dave is on the board. All right. You've got control of the board. What's it going to be? My heart is racing. This is crazy.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Famous Dave's, famous Richard's for 400, please. I need to clarify something. Yeah. Dave, is your name David? My birth name is David. Okay. Dave Schwimmer. He says famous David's.
Starting point is 00:53:37 Oh, come on. Come on now. Or Richard's. Okay. All right. For 400. We can talk about first names if you want, guys. For 400, a Hall of Famer and Super Bowl winner,
Starting point is 00:53:46 he was known as the Colonel or Sack Man, according to pro football reference. Heath. Heath. Who is Richard Dent? Hey, Heath is on the board. Apparently he was the Colonel. A Bears player, even.
Starting point is 00:54:02 I know. I thought Dave was going to get that. 85 Bear Richard Dent uh Heath what is yours uh which Dave and Richard is left 200 200 okay I'll take that one this future hall of famer played for a west coast bird mascot in college in the NFL yeah who is Richard Sherman correct all right we're, we're tied. Wait a minute. A West Coast bird mascot. Oh, actually, they didn't. I was wrong.
Starting point is 00:54:30 I still got it right. Yeah, you did. Stanford. How does that happen? It's not. Well, it's just like, it's like Dave Schwimmer. It's not.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I'm sorry. The Stanford Cardinal is actually the color. It's not the bird. Yeah. What the hell? I'm sorry. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:54:44 There's some shenanigans going on the mascot's a tree there's probably birds in that tree there are two birds no there are birds that really quick when it was an incorrect clue i'm sorry about that you it's i did not mess up once the first two games that were the first two weeks that we played you two aren't like this isn't some sort of bit. Me and Heath? Come on. No. All right. The other categories are last three weeks and players drafted in round eight or later.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Players drafted in round eight or later for 600, please. Round eight draft picks who were teammates on draft day, but no longer. One is a top five tight end per game, and one is a top 15 wide receiver per game. Dave. Dave. Dave. Who is TJ Hawkinson and Amon Ross St. Brown?
Starting point is 00:55:29 Hey, Dave. You're crushing it. All right. That's 1,200 for Dave. This is the first time in this stupid game I've gotten two questions right in the same week. Round eight or later for 400, Alex. Drafted in round nine,
Starting point is 00:55:41 this running back has become the starter due to injury and is currently a top 12 running back for the season. Who is Heath? Go ahead, Heath. Who is Ramondre Stevenson? Correct. Correct. I thought you might say Ken Walker, but he was not.
Starting point is 00:55:56 That's what I was going to say. And you would have gotten a... I think he was a round 10 or 11 pick or something. All right. Players in round eight or later for 200 or you can go to last 3 weeks. Yeah, I'll go to 200, sure. Okay, this round 10 wide receiver has outscored
Starting point is 00:56:12 his round 6 teammate. This round 10 wide receiver has outscored his round 6 teammate. It was Tyler Lockett. Tyler Lockett was a round 10 pick? Yeah, in CBS ADP. Wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:36 All right, Heath, the board is still yours. What an absolute fart cloud that was by us with the Seahawks receivers. It is 12. Well, Geno Smith has been one of the biggest surprises in football. We were pretty much dead on on DK Metcalf, right? I guess, yeah. 1,200 for Heath for Dave.
Starting point is 00:56:52 If people were redrafting now, he'd go sooner than round six. 1,200 for Dave and 1,000 for Heath so far. So he has to make up a 200. Last three weeks for 200, please. On a per-game basis, he is the number one tight end in fantasy over the last three weeks. Dave. Dave. What? Yeah, Dave got in there.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Oh, that is such crap. Who is Travis Kelsey? Correct. No. It is Kelsey. It was a trick question. Who are you going to say, Heath? Over the last three weeks? Yeah, per game. I thought it was Cole Komet. He's number two.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Well, at least I didn't embarrass myself, but I did still. But I did say my name first. Everybody listening knows it. You can go back and listen to the tape if you would like. That's your third mess up in this game. Schaefer, who was it?
Starting point is 00:57:37 Thomas went away in there. It was Dave or Heath. It doesn't matter. It was Dave. All right. Dave? Is there anybody? Four or 600?
Starting point is 00:57:48 400, please. it was dave all right uh dave four or six hundred uh four hundred please despite just 11 catches over the last three weeks he leads all wide receivers and touchdown catches in that span could you repeat the question the answer uh over the last three weeks so despite just 11 catches over the last three weeks, he leads all wide receivers in touchdown catches in that span. And he has four. Oh, man. Heath, you need to get... Yeah, Heath. Who is Christian Watson?
Starting point is 00:58:21 I love pressing that button. Thank you. All right. Wait, wait, wait. I don't get a chance to answer? You have five seconds. button. Thank you. All right. I don't get it. You have five seconds. No. Come on.
Starting point is 00:58:30 What do you mean? That's been five seconds. Come on. I said Dave before you buzz. Okay. Yeah. Last question. Who is AJ Brown?
Starting point is 00:58:41 I'm not allowing it. It was AJ Brown, but I'm not allowing it. All right. Heath is down. Heath is down 400. Now I know what it feels like to be Heath. We have one left for 600 and the win. Only Derek Henry
Starting point is 00:58:53 has more rushing yards than this guy over the last three weeks. Heath. Heath. Who is damian pierce only derrick henry has more rushing yards than this guy over the last three weeks i'm going to win anyway but let's see if you can bring it home who is like on this stuff? Justin Fields. Oh. That was a good one. Of course.
Starting point is 00:59:27 That's a great one. Two fewer yards than Derrick Henry. All right. Let's end the show with a quick round of emails. Two fewer yards. That is amazing. What an insane run. From Smragu.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Dear Eli, Bo, Matt, and Chad. Those are Ole Miss QBs? They are. Mm-hmm. Matt and Chad. Those are Ole Miss QBs? They are. Should we be looking to sell DeAndre Hopkins with Marquise Brown coming back and Rondell Moore breaking out? Yeah, I don't want to say this again because I was wrong the first time I said it.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I think you should hold on to DeAndre Hopkins and expect him to continue to be Kyler Murray's number one guy. Colt McCoy's too. Okay. From Nelson. What's up, Stuart, Scott, Chris, and Neil? The first two names are a hint. Stuart, Scott, Chris, and Neil.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Those are SportsCenter anchors. Trade Justin Fields and Kadarius Toney for CeeDee Lamb. He already has Lamar Jackson. Sure. I don't mind that. From Joey. Can you imagine a month ago someone telling you, yeah, you're going to be able to trade Justin
Starting point is 01:00:38 Fields and Kadarius Tony for CD Lamb. Yeah, it's wild. Yeah, it's been that kind of year. Now from Joey, full PPR. Who do I start? Jarek McKinnon or Isaiah Pacheco? Pacheco.
Starting point is 01:00:51 Or McKinnon. I'm sorry. I'd lean Pacheco this week just because I think the Chiefs can put up a big number and run on the Chargers. Pacheco seems to be that guy. Joe in Boston
Starting point is 01:01:04 needs help at tight end with Dallas Goddard hurt. Should I trade Tyler Lockett and Jeff Wilson for David Njoku and Jamal Williams? No. No. Well, Jeff Wilson and Jamal Williams are basically the same thing, right? I think Wilson can be better than Williams rest of season.
Starting point is 01:01:23 I would do that. You would. Okay, so the trade is Lockett and Wilson for N better than Williams rest of season. I would do that. You would. Okay. So the trade is Lockett and Wilson for Najoku and Jamal Williams. I'm assuming that Lockett's like your fourth wide receiver. He was, I mean, he's around 10 pick.
Starting point is 01:01:34 No, he has, well, he has chase and Hill and then he has people's Jones, Darius Slayton and Juju Smith Schuster. That's an interesting group of people. I don't think I'd do this. I think the drop-off
Starting point is 01:01:46 from Lockett to Njoku could be bad. I know Njoku's been awesome, but I'd be too nervous to do that. It's way too much for those two. I just, I don't,
Starting point is 01:01:57 and I think the big difference between Dave and I is that we think there's a big difference between Jamal Williams and Jeff Wilson. It's not a huge difference. It's not huge i
Starting point is 01:02:05 just i think i might prefer williams wow i purposely this is such a coward move by me i admit but i i tried to keep the lions running backs off the show because i just don't feel like there is any real advice we could give we have absolutely no idea how that's going to play out with the star jamal williams No, no, this week, but with DeAndre Swift's health rest of season, I have no idea what that's going to be. Last week, was he? No, he was removed. Okay. But
Starting point is 01:02:33 I mean, it's inconceivable that within the last eight weeks of the season that he could start actually getting more work and Jamal Williams would be a flex option at best. It's conceivable. Right. How about the fact that there were three different running backs in getting more work, and Jamal Williams would be a flex option at best. It's conceivable. How about the fact that there were three different running backs in Detroit's backfield last week and the week before?
Starting point is 01:02:53 All right, well, a couple more wins, and they're going to be in the playoff discussion. So keep that in mind. It's Washington right now. Heath, you brought this up. Every AFC East team is in the playoffs if it started today. Every NFC East team except for Washington is in the playoffs. If it started today, every NFC East team except for Washington is in the playoffs and Washington is the first
Starting point is 01:03:08 team out. Incredible. I have a Jeopardy question. Yeah. This Lions running back led the team in third and fourth down snaps played in week number 10. Heath. Heath. Who is Justin Jackson. Isn't that crazy that he's the one that's getting that role and it's not DeAndre Swift or Jamal Williams?
Starting point is 01:03:24 I buzzed in first, by the way. Thanks for watching and listening, everybody. We will... It's inconceivable, says David A. Very good father of the bride, a princess bride reference to end the show. And we'll talk to you tomorrow with Starter Sit for the AFC
Starting point is 01:03:40 home games on Fantasy Football. Hey, hey, hey. Who won the check?

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