Fantasy Football Today - Trade Talk, Tua Talk, RB Tiers, NYG-PHI, Fantasy Cops! (10/21 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 21, 2020

Who are our favorite buy low (2:00) and sell high (10:00) guys? We discuss the Bucs WRs, David Montgomery, Jonathan Taylor and more. Then let's get into the Tua Tagovailoa decision (15:00) and what i...t means for the rest of the Dolphins ... Fun stats for WRs and TEs (23:45)! Adam Thielen is the #1 WR in non PPR, Tyreek Hill is having a slightly disappointing season and we'll tell you which WRs have the most targets without a TD. Then we'll give you a bunch of RB tiers (35:00) and figure out which RBs are must-starts, which ones you start but feel terrible about, which ones could move up to better tiers and which ones you could drop ... Previewing Giants-Eagles (43:16) and wondering if there is one single solitary great start in this game other than the Eagles DST. Then the Fantasy Cops show up to settle league disputes (52:05) and we read your questions via Apple Podcast (57:40) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Listen to the brand new Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-in-5/id1528634304 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. On his way to the end zone. I'll tell you what, that was a spectacular play. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. What a play! Off to the races! Touchdown! Oh, he's done it again! Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. What's going on, everybody? A fun Wednesday show for you.
Starting point is 00:00:24 We got some buy low. We got some sell high. We got some funky wide receiver and tight end stats. And I went ahead and I put about, I don't know, 20 to 30 running backs in tiers. And Dave and Heath get to pick those tiers apart. We welcome you to Fantasy Football Today. This episode is sponsored by Express.
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Starting point is 00:01:03 Oh, yeah. Fantasy Cops are coming on later. Looking forward to that. How are you guys doing? How are we doing? Great. Really wonderful. Oh, you sound like you're in a good mood Heath. Was it watching me dance just now? Is that what it was? No, I was thinking about your tears. Specifically you crying and how much I would enjoy watching that. But yeah, that would be a good movie. I almost cried. I almost actually did cry yesterday watching like a collage, a video montage of me with my kids.
Starting point is 00:01:39 That was really, I got very sappy and emotional. But then I almost fantasy cried this morning because a trade that I sent out last week that I forgot to rescind was accepted. Oh, no. And I don't know how I feel about it. So we'll get the fantasy cops on the case a little bit later.
Starting point is 00:01:56 Let's start with your favorite buy low, Dave. My favorite buy low is Chris Godwin, who leads the Bucks in targets per game. He just hasn't played a lot of games. He's been beat up. I'm sure that he's going to eventually round the corner and be good for Tom Brady and be that number one receiver for the Bucs that we projected him to be when the season started. And people who drafted him with a round two or round three pick might be frustrated with him. I think you can probably get Godwin at a decent
Starting point is 00:02:29 value right now. Does it bother you? Like he's only at six, seven targets each game. So his 16 game pace is 107 targets, 85 catches a little more than a thousand yards. I was going to talk about Mike Evans in this segment. Well, if he has 107 targets over, he's missed a couple of games. I'd be okay with that. That's his 16-game pace for the three games he's played. I'm saying it's not for a full season. He's played three games.
Starting point is 00:02:56 He's on pace in those three games for 107 targets. I know what you're saying. Not a ton. I'm still okay with getting him, and I bet the target share goes up. Yeah. Is Mike Evans a buy low? Because his 16-game pace is crazy.
Starting point is 00:03:08 It is 61 catches, 749 yards, and 16 touchdowns on 99 targets. But in three games with Chris Godwin playing, he has 14 yards. I keep giving that stat. He has 14 yards, and he has 10 targets. I keep giving that stat. He has 14 yards and he has 10 targets. Very strange stuff. I feel more like Mike Evans was a sell high and you might still be able to. Because of the touchdowns?
Starting point is 00:03:37 You're right. I mean, that would be the only reason. Somebody looks at the fantasy point ranking and says, ooh, Mike Evans has scored lots of fantasy points and doesn't look at literally anything else. But I don't know. Maybe it's like the savvy fantasy player or the fantasy community might be pretty down on Mike Evans right now.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Can he really continue to be this bad, this uninvolved with Goblin on the field? Their defense has been and looks like a very good defense. They have Tom Brady at quarterback. We know historically, and maybe it's because it was cold, but Tom Brady's teams have gone more run heavy in the second half. I don't think they're going to throw 600 times. I don't think they're going to throw for 5,000 yards. And Rob Gronkowski may be growing into a bigger role
Starting point is 00:04:27 than the tight ends had last year. So I don't think there's very much hope that Godwin and or Evans, or at least not Godwin and Evans, are going to perform at 90% of what they did last year. And you forgot the other important part, Heath. They're running the ball well. Right. Last three part, Heath. They're running the ball well. Last three weeks, they've started to run the ball well. They're actually one of the teams in the NFL
Starting point is 00:04:49 that still has a very nice offensive line. Ronald Jones has been playing good physical football. And it's not like last year at all. Yeah, I guess they are still a Bruce Arians team. They have, I think, the sixth or seventh most rush attempts or pass attempts per game in the NFL right now. And they ran the ball a lot last week because they had a huge lead. They've been running the ball a lot, but they're obviously a really good team.
Starting point is 00:05:15 But they still are throwing the ball. Almost every game they're throwing the ball a lot, not last week, because they blew out the Packers. But, yeah, I don't know. You look at Evans, I feel like this is the lowest his value is going to be. I hope. I don't know. That depends on if someone is valuing him based on his targets
Starting point is 00:05:34 or based on his fantasy points. I think they're going to value him based on his yards. Yeah, I don't know. I think that will vary based on the acumen of the fantasy manager you're dealing with. I agree. All right. So then I'll just sum it up. Chris Godwin is a blank and Mike Evans is a blank rest of season.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I think the answer is the same. I think they're both going to be number two receivers. But my hunch is that it will cost you a little less to get Godwin than Evans. Chris Godwin will rank between 10th and 15th rest of season. Mike Evans will rank between 17th and 22nd rest of season. All right. And in the trade chart, Evans is actually going for more than Godwin. Interesting. Interesting. Okay. Heath, how about you? Your favorite buy low? I will admit that sometimes I've mailed this in. Sometimes I've not had answers ready.
Starting point is 00:06:30 That is not the case today. This is possibly my favorite buy low of the season. You know those gambling shows where they say, this is the play of the season. This is your five-star 2020 buy low mega lock. Oh, man. I wonder who it is. It's David Montgomery.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Oh, David Montgomery. Yeah. Well, David Montgomery, 19 targets over his last three games. And the schedule's not been very good. Like Tariq Cohen went down. He got an increased volume in the passing game,
Starting point is 00:07:03 but he had to face the Colts. Then he had to face the Buccaneers. And then Carolina's defense for some reason is kind of not terrible. Oh, their run defense is dreadful. He should have crushed them. He should have crushed them. But then you want to talk about terrible defenses. He finishes the second half of the season, Tennessee, Minnesota, Green Bay, Detroit, Houston, Minnesota, Jacksonville in week 16. David Montgomery is going to be a top 12 running back in the second half of the 2020 season. I just hope he's good. There's only one running back. I don't think it matters. Sure it matters, because if he's not good, he's not going to give you
Starting point is 00:07:43 numbers that'll finish as a top 12 running back. He's going to get the work. He's going to get the work, and he's getting the catches, which is nice. There's only one running back, and speaking of buy lows, I've given this stat on Monday, on Twitch yesterday. One running back I think that has a better schedule than David Montgomery, and that is Jonathan Taylor. So his schedule is beautiful.
Starting point is 00:08:04 But you're not going to be able to buy low on Taylor. Well, you could if you got a Taylor manager who's two and four and Taylor's on a buy this week. Maybe. And he's got to be frustrated with Jonathan Taylor. But most people who drafted Taylor did so with
Starting point is 00:08:20 grandeur visions of him being a breakout rookie running back. And I don't think those people are ready to ship him off for a couple of parts. You know what? It doesn't have to be a buy low. It could be a buy high. I think there's a great opportunity for Taylor to really
Starting point is 00:08:36 just crush it the second half of the season. Because he's been good. He hasn't been great. He has one game with more than 68 rushing yards. He's got two games with more than 14 carries. Right. Look, I think you're right,
Starting point is 00:08:53 but I would still expect to give up a lot to get Jonathan Taylor on your fantasy team. And I'm confused. And maybe we were just wrong, but part of the selling point was that Jonathan Taylor's first half of the season schedule was really easy. Is his second half
Starting point is 00:09:08 schedule easier than his first half has been? Yes. I think it's turned that way. It's not like he's been bad. His schedule was easy. He scored, in non-PPR, he scored double digits four of six times. You know what?
Starting point is 00:09:23 I'm not criticizing Jonathan Taylor. I'm just saying he's played Jacksonville, Minnesota, the Jets, the Bengals. The Browns and Bears, I guess, are tough matchups, but that's pretty much it. And
Starting point is 00:09:39 looking at what he has left, it's good matchups, but he still has to face some great teams as well. He's got the Ravens. He's got the Steelers in Pittsburgh in Week 16, but everything else looks pretty good to me. Right, but everything else has been pretty good so far. It's a matter of workload,
Starting point is 00:09:57 and you're hoping that coming out of the bye week, the Colts say, all right, it's time to really turn this kid loose. They take a page out of the Dolphins playbook when it comes to their rookies and say, all right, let's get this kid going. They take a page out of the Dolphins playbook when it comes to their rookies and say, all right, let's get this kid going. It's time.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Oh, speaking of dolphins, we'll talk about two in a second. Who's your favorite cell? Hi, Heath. Uh, Kenyan Drake.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And I kind of hate him because he beat me by 0.33 points with that 69 yard touchdown run in a league. But I... Listen, that was a good performance. He did a better job of going forward instead of trying to bounce everything outside. That's going to work better against the Cowboys than it is against everyone else.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I do think he's going to be a starting running back rest of the season, but I would rather have David Montgomery than Kenyon Drake. In any format? I think what it did. Even in non-PPR? Because it makes sense in PPR,
Starting point is 00:10:50 but in non-PPR? Yep. Okay. Go ahead, Dave. I think he bought himself some time as the main back for Arizona over the last two games because he's running more north-south.
Starting point is 00:11:02 They've kind of unlocked him. Yeah. They unlocked him when they got him last year and then things changed again this year and now they've done it again. I like him a lot against Seattle this week. I think he can do okay against that run defense. And the schedule,
Starting point is 00:11:16 rest of season, he's got the Patriots in week 12. Adam will argue that the Giants is a tough matchup for him in week 14. 49ers in week 16. It's not that bad. It's not that bad. I don't mind calling him a sell high if you can sell high.
Starting point is 00:11:33 He's not a, ew, it's Kenyon Drake. Get him off. Get him off. Get him off. It's not like that. I can give you a real-life example because this was the trade that I offered last week that was not accepted until after his huge game. I offered Kenyon Drake for Myles Gaskin in a PPR league, and I forgot about it, and it was accepted this morning or late last night.
Starting point is 00:11:54 So I now have Gaskin. I gave away Kenyon Drake. That's pretty fantastic. It's good, Dre? You'd rather have Gaskin? I would rather have... No, it's pretty fantastic by the person who did it to you. But yes, I'd rather have Gaskin too.
Starting point is 00:12:05 I've got them dead even in non-PPR and Gaskin one point higher in full PPR. So what was the format? PPR, a slight win for me. There you go. You got it. It's a pretty dirty move, I think. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:18 It's questionable. I personally would have reached out and be like, hey, do you still want to do this deal? But it's my fault for not rescinding the trade. I had forgotten about it. But I'll take Gaskin. It's fine. Kenyon Drake has six catches this year.
Starting point is 00:12:32 So if he doesn't score, you've got... And there's one more thing. Seven, eight points. He's being used more in this physical style. Can he hold up? Great point. Okay, Dave, you got a sell high? My sell high is not actually for right now
Starting point is 00:12:47 it's a week from now and it's not one guy it's two guys it's josh allen and stefan diggs you should not get rid of them before their game against the jets i'm sure they're going to pound the jets everybody does but their schedule gets hard And Allen has not looked good the last couple of games. I think you can probably benefit off of a big game against the Jets and then move on from Josh Allen and consider moving on from Diggs.
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Starting point is 00:15:38 So hopefully that's the case and that Mixon will be fine. But the fact that there's nothing out there, it would be weird if there was nothing out there and then all of a sudden, Joe Mixon's out for three to four weeks. So I think it, I'm cautiously optimistic he'll play. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:53 This Tua thing is weird. Surprising. He's going to start for the dolphins going forward. They're on by, then they get the Rams. What is the value of everyone else of of Parker, Williams, Gasicki, Gaskin? Do they gain value? Do they lose value? What's your take on it, Dave? When I watched Tua play, I saw a strong-armed, accurate downfield thrower. I believe that at
Starting point is 00:16:20 times he was locking on to his number one receiver. It was Jerry Judy at Alabama. I don't blame him for locking on to Jerry Judy because he was pretty damn amazing when he was there. I wonder if he would end up doing the same thing now in the pros. Is he going to lock on to Devante Parker? If Parker's out, remember he hurt himself in week six. Is he going to lock on to Preston Williams? Could he lock on to Mike Isiki? It's entirely possible. But one concern I've gotten, this is bad for anybody who might have acquired Myles Gaskin in a trade recently. He did not, in college anyway,
Starting point is 00:16:54 he did not throw to his running backs a ton. Remember when Josh Jacobs came out, a lot of concern about it was, well, he never really caught the ball a lot. Well, that's that offense that Tua was running. And Tua will run himself a little bit. I would expect him to take off and run maybe the same amount that Ryan Fitzpatrick did.
Starting point is 00:17:14 And yeah, I think that he'll be helpful to the wide receivers and the tight ends. Gaskin is fine still as a great starter in fantasy, but there is a chance that his target share declines a tad. Well, you think for Parker Williams-Gosicki, is it better or is it worse? I think just by nature of having a rookie playing instead of a grizzled vet like Fitzpatrick, it's going to be a little worse. But I don't think Tua is going to be scared. Like, they're not putting him out there unless they really believe he's good to go.
Starting point is 00:17:47 And we don't get to watch any of these practices. We have no idea. The media has no idea. But the coaches do. And so you've got to trust that the coaching staff, knowing that they're 3-3 and legitimately in the playoff hunt, they're making a move that they think is going to make their team better. And they wouldn't put Tua out there.
Starting point is 00:18:04 This isn't like Johnny Manziel when he was put into action with Cleveland and he had no idea what he was doing. There was just pressure to get him out. There was no pressure for Tua to play. They must think that he gives them a better chance and that he's ready to go. So I don't think he's going to crawl into the field position every time the pass rushes on him. I expect him to make a lot of good throws. I just don't really know what the value for Devontae Parker,
Starting point is 00:18:29 Preston Williams, and Mike Kosicki was before. I'm trying to, like, not saying that they didn't have any, but those players have been, I mean, Parker's been hurt for most of the year. He's had some really good games. He's had some games where he didn't do much, but he scored a touchdown, so it was still okay. I think he's a borderline number two wide receiver, and I maybe would view him as a high-end number three now instead of a borderline number two.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Preston Williams has scored and had one really good game against San Francisco, but the targets haven't been there. And Mike Gasicki is only good when we tell you to sit him. So, like those are Gusecki and Williams specifically are very difficult players for me to hold over the bi-week. I would like to, especially Gusecki since he's a tight end.
Starting point is 00:19:18 I do think it will be interesting. A lot of times I think rookie quarterbacks have a hard time getting to the other side of the field. And with rookie quarterbacks, generally they're right-handed. And that means most of their throws are going to the right side of the field. Two is obviously not right-handed. I wonder if like Parker and Williams and where they've aligned, which I believe Williams is generally left side, but I'm not sure about that, will have any impact on the total targets. I wonder if the fact that Parker's currently banged up. And so the first week of practice that Tua gets with the starters, Preston Williams might
Starting point is 00:19:59 be his only outside wide receiver healthy, if that will make an impact on who gets the early targets but i think it's a slight downgrade across the board and it includes two players gasecki and williams that were very difficult to value in the first place okay let me follow up with this would you rather have miles gaskin or davante parker rest of season gaskin gaskin would you rather have mike evans or davante parker evans evans parker isn't even a top 24 receiver rest of Gaskin. Would you rather have Mike Evans or Devontae Parker? Evans. Evans. Parker isn't even a top 24 receiver rest of season. He's right.
Starting point is 00:20:31 T. Higgins or Devontae Parker? Higgins. Higgins. Higgins is a hotter name right now. Parker. Okay. All right. And Parker's been lining up all over the place.
Starting point is 00:20:43 There's been some games where he's lined up as the left receiver. Some games as the right. And he's played about a dozen snaps in the slot per game. Some Tua questions then. Are there any quarterbacks that you think are, you know, widely rostered that you would drop for Tua? What's Taker Mayfield's roster percentage? In the 40s, I think. Okay, so he's sliding down.
Starting point is 00:21:03 What's Garoppolo at? I don't know. He was in the 30s before yesterday. Garoppolo's at 34. So you'd rather have Tua than Garoppolo? Yes. What's interesting is I'm not sure what Tua's new rostership percentage is now. 31. So he only went up 11%. There wasn't a mad rush to grab him in now. 31. So he only went up 11%.
Starting point is 00:21:25 There wasn't a mad rush to grab him in fantasy. Yeah. I wonder if that'll change if he has a good game against the Rams. It will change if he has a good game against the Rams.
Starting point is 00:21:33 It took people a while to jump on the Justin Herbert bandwagon, too. Sure. They did not have that problem with Joe Burrow, though. Right. Yeah, the rookie quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:21:42 have been pretty good. Burrow and, well herbert's been great burrow got off to a good start it's been kind of crap for fantasy but okay uh derrick car to a rest of season car yeah i'd say car if only because i might want to use in this week news and notes i think against the bucks rest of the year. I know you like a tough spot for the Bucks. Very tough spot. My narrative street tough spot for the Bucks. Okay, Vegas
Starting point is 00:22:11 line says so too. All right. Well, we'll talk about that game to is that a that's a Vegas game. All right. That's tomorrow. That's tomorrow. Christian McCaffrey out this week could be back next week. Dallas players are openly criticizing their coaches. This is going really well. Weird.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Their left tackle, Brandon Knight, who is obviously replacing Tyron Smith, he is out this week at Washington. And they will get Randy Gregory, defensive end back, who has not played since 2018. A lot of Dallas news. The Saints are going to have 3,000 fans at their next home game, or at least up to 3,000 fans. That will be this week against Carolina.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I did not finish reading the article, but apparently the California teams are going to be able to have limited fans. Just saw that before we went on the air. Mark Ingram has a sprained ankle. He has a decent chance to play next week after the bye. So you don't think you have to go rushing. I think we need to go back to the Saints thing.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Is 3,000 fans enough to make Drew Brees good at home again? I'm going to say no, but by the end of the year, it could be like 10,000. Philadelphia right tackle Lane Johnson will attempt to play this week in the game that we cannot wait to watch and preview.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Actually, quite frankly, I do think it's a pretty interesting fantasy game. Giants and Eagles. Yep. Yeah. So we have a five-star review. You leave us a five-star review.
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Starting point is 00:23:31 or many of the numbers in Pi, 3.14, blah, blah, blah. So that was very clever. That came up on Monday's show. Would you like to do more buy low or sell high? Yeah, not yet. Let's change the order around a little bit. Let's do this segment. Fun wide receiver slash tight end stats.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I will give you a stat. You give me a reaction. Adam Thielen is the number one wide receiver in non-PPR, number three in PPR. Per game, he's number three in non, number six in PPR. This is Adam Thielen. He leads wide receivers with seven touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:24:04 He has four touchdowns from inside the four-yard line. That matches Thielen's He leads wide receivers with seven touchdowns. He has four touchdowns from inside the four-yard line that matches Thielen's career high. There's not really... This isn't the most fun stat, but when you look at the wide receiver standings and you see... This is the headliner of fun wide receiver stats, and you've given us zero fun wide receiver stats.
Starting point is 00:24:19 Okay, fine. He has four touchdowns from inside the 10-yard line. I think that's kind of cool. But I don't know. You look at the wide receiver standings and you see Thiel at number one and number three in PPR. That's kind of fun. If we had played Name That Player or Fantasy Feud, I wouldn't have gotten this. I should have done a different game. I did not know
Starting point is 00:24:36 that he was the leader in touchdowns. Yes. I mean, seven touchdowns in six games. What are we thinking about Adam Thiel right now? He's awesome. I don't think this is slowing down. It's been a refreshing change to see that the Vikings are throwing a little bit more
Starting point is 00:24:53 and not becoming this, you know, run conservative offense. I don't agree with that. And a lot of it has to do with the fact that their defense isn't any good. They are a run conservative offense. They've had one game with more than 27 pass attempts. It doesn't feel like that, though. It feels like they... No, they're
Starting point is 00:25:15 not throwing a ton, but it still feels like their defense is putting them in situations where they have to throw. Oh, that's true, but they're a little stubborn about it, at least until last week. Like the Seattle game, they ran, I don't know, how many carries?
Starting point is 00:25:30 Cook had like 17 and Madison had 20 and they were, you know, I guess that was a competitive game. You're right, you're right. But they also... For whatever reason, like between Jefferson and now Thielen,
Starting point is 00:25:38 it just doesn't feel that way. So maybe they're just, they're obviously very efficient with the pass. Yeah. They also have had horrible time of possession this year, except for one game, I think, against the Texans.
Starting point is 00:25:50 So that's interesting. So I guess it's Thielen. Do you think Thielen is a legit top 10 wide receiver rest of the season? Yeah. I would be selling high, I think. Not for Godwin. Would you rather? I'd have to get something in addition to Chris Godwin? Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:08 All right. Here's a more fun one. Your top wide receivers without top wide receivers in targets without a touchdown. Most targets without a touchdown. Oh, I know this one. Oh,
Starting point is 00:26:19 who? Um, AJ green. Yeah. T Y Hilton. Yeah. Julian Edelman. Yeah. You're're reading it's all the old guys oh okay jarvis landry's four and jarvis landry holy all the old guys right like usually you could like
Starting point is 00:26:33 last year was robert woods for a while and you could be like oh bylo this year it's aj green ty hilton julian edelman and jarvis landry who is the best by low of that group? It's green. I think it might be Edelman. Go on. I don't know. I don't know if this passing game for New England is going to ever get consistent. I don't know that it is either. They want to run a ton. They do.
Starting point is 00:26:59 But I've at least seen Edelman play really, really well in the one game where they had to throw. And the fact that he doesn't have a touchdown yet isn't quite as disturbing when you consider that they've already had their bye and he played one game with Jarrett Stidham. He's played three games with Cam Newton. Right. So, yeah, Edelman would be my... I don't have any thoughts on A.J. Green at all, good or bad. And I don't have any interest in T.Y. Hilton or Jarvis Landry. I've got thoughts on Hilton and A.J. Green.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I watched A.J. Green's game last week because you had to wonder what caused this breakout. And he's still running in breaking routes like an all-pro. He does not have the deep speed that he used to have. At least last week, the defense was on him like glue they were contested catches burrow was not nailing those throws he needs volume and if he gets the same type of volume that he got last week moving forward i'm confident that he can be usable and serviceable and fantasy just not a number one type of receiver. I would classify him as good, not great. I would classify Hilton as
Starting point is 00:28:10 average, not even solid. He's not getting a lot of deep throws. Rivers is spreading the ball around. I've talked about the Colts' offensive philosophy every week now. Ready for our next one? Tyreek Hill. I've talked about the Colts' offensive philosophy like every week now. Okay, ready?
Starting point is 00:28:26 Ready for our next one? Tyreek Hill. Tyreek Hill is on pace for 67 catches, 1,024 yards, 11 touchdowns, which is nice, on 101 targets. Like, just those numbers are low. He's been in six targets almost every game.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Travis Kelsey has 15 more targets than Tyreek Hill. He's been saved by touchdowns. He had a rushing touchdown. He had, I think, a receiving touchdown in each of his first four games. Total dud against the Bills. Are we concerned about Tyreek Hill? Slightly. Only because I think and I know
Starting point is 00:29:02 I think the Bills' defensive strategy against the Chiefs was exactly what you should do. You should pray that they will run for six yards a carry against you and only let Mahomes throw it 20 times. And I would expect more, I mean, it's a copycat league. And they had a chance, they just had to get one stop and they were going to go score and win the game. They copied what the raiders did right so and that was done to them earlier by houston so like there's only one game with more than six targets for tyree kill now the other thing i will say is we have historical precedent for tyree kill being a top 10 wide receiver with a hundred targets.
Starting point is 00:29:45 He had 105 targets in 2017 and he was top 10 in both formats. They used him 17 times as a rusher. He scored seven touchdowns and he was remarkably efficient. So I still think he's going to be a number one wide receiver rest of year, but I don't think he's going, I'm concerned. He's not going to be worth the early second round pick that you paid for.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Would you guys take Adam Thielen or Tyreek Hill? I've got Hill higher on the trade chart, so I'll say Hill. I would still take Hill in non-PPR. In full PPR, I'd probably take Thielen. You've got to take DeAndre Hopkins over Hill, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Oh, yeah. So who are the top five wide receivers rest of season? Thomas, Adams, Hopkins. I've got Hopkins, Adams, Thomas. And then it's really close between Ridley, Julio, Tyreek Hill, Galladay. And I've got DK Metcalf sky high. I think his value is crazy high, even though he's not getting a slew of targets every game either.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Yeah, I probably say... I think it's tough after the first three. Hopkins, Adams, Thomas. Diggs. No. Ridley. Julio. digs now ridley julio okay if we're doing that then matt ryan is a must trade for like yeah whatever it takes and it shouldn't take a lot yeah no people were asking about dropping that ryan are you crazy it's obvious but i also think that julio and calvin ridley could be top five wide receivers and matt ryan still just be like the number seven or eight quarterback yeah but that's fine i mean it's still a bit that's right
Starting point is 00:31:35 exactly i'd be okay with that i think it is really interesting that dan quinn gets fired and all of a sudden julio jones is scoring touchdowns and looking like a dominant receiver again. All right, last fun stat. This is a tight end stat. Mark Andrews and Jonu Smith have nearly identical statistics. Andrews has 20 catches. Smith has 19.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Andrews has 243 yards. Jonu has 234. They both have five touchdowns. They're within four targets of each other. Jonu Smith has played one fewer game and he left week six with an injury.'re within four targets of each other. John O'Smith has played one fewer game, and he left week six with an injury. He played 39% of the snaps. So he's been really a lot better than Mark Andrews,
Starting point is 00:32:14 if you think of it that way, or at least better. Your thoughts? It'd be more interesting if John O'Smith wasn't hurt. I guess so. Be more fun. Be more of a fun stat. Well, I mean,
Starting point is 00:32:31 could you, could you, if I told you Jono Smith was playing this week and he's already had his bye, could you take Jono? Would you take Jono Smith ahead of Mark Andrews rest of season? No, I'm not there yet,
Starting point is 00:32:41 but I do think it's close, but Jono is part of like tight end. Obviously it's is terrible. Again. John who's part of the good the good place if if he's healthy. Like what are there seven tight ends that are that are not just I guess if Noah fans, maybe eight. Well, don't forget about Evan Ingram.
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Starting point is 00:35:04 Okay, here are the running back tears. The elites. Alvin Kamara, Derrick Henry, Aaron Jones, Dalvin Cook, Ezekiel Elliott. This is in no particular order.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Kamara, Henry, Jones, Cook, Zeke. The near elites. Carson, Jacobs,
Starting point is 00:35:20 Mike Davis, for now. Kareem Hunt, James Conner. The must starts. Clyde Edwards, Eareem Hunt, James Connor, the must starts, Clyde Edwards, E-layer, Jonathan Taylor,
Starting point is 00:35:30 the probably starts. I don't think it'd be useful to like read off all of them. Probably now it gets more useful. The probably starts. Tell me if you disagree with any of them. Are they must starts? Are they less than this? James Robinson's a probably start.
Starting point is 00:35:46 Joe Mixon, Ronald Jones, Todd Gurley, who has seven catches in his last two games. Those guys are all must-starts currently. I agree. You know, James Robinson has had two brilliant matchups in a row, and he has totally crapped the bed on both of them. He was okay last week. He scored a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:36:02 That saved him. Yes, it did. As a rusher, he has been horrible two straight weeks against the Texans and the Lions. Both teams give up 5.25 yards per carry or more to running backs. His offensive line is starting to show its true colors, unfortunately.
Starting point is 00:36:19 All right, so Robinson, Mixon, Ronald Jones, Todd Gurley, and Miles Gaskin I have as a probably start. Yeah, those are must starts. Yeah. The starts, but don't feel great about them. David Montgomery, Kenyon Drake, David Johnson, Antonio Gibson. Yeah, you're starting David Montgomery too. Yeah, but you don't feel great about it.
Starting point is 00:36:40 You're starting David Johnson as well. But you don't feel great about it. And for now, you're starting Kenyon Drake. I was wrong. We should have done the Bilos El. And for now, you're starting Kenyon Drake. I was wrong. We should have done the buy low, sell high. No, the thing is, there are a lot of running backs that you have to start because they're running backs.
Starting point is 00:36:51 There aren't that many good ones. But every time, if I put David Johnson in my lineup, I'd be nervous every time. I will say he has eight. Oh, my gosh. Compared to most running backs, I would not be nervous at all. How many have I already named?
Starting point is 00:37:03 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17 were in the other tiers. So now we're talking about he's 18 to 21 here in this group. No, you have to start him. He has eight carries inside the five-yard line. That is as many as Carlos Hyde had all of last season. That is not something that you usually see from Texans running backs. Year after year, it's six for Miller, eight for Hyde, something like that. It's a very low number, but he's getting a ton of work near the goal line. But gosh, he has been really scary. And he has two catches per game, if you're lucky with David Johnson. So I think this group starts, but don't feel great about them.
Starting point is 00:37:48 I think it's very appropriate. Montgomery, Drake, Johnson, and Gibson. May I offer a different name for them? Sure. Starters you should try to upgrade on via trade. See, I think if you just put the probably starts, Robinson, Mixon, Jones, Gurley, Gaskin, in the must starts with Clyde and Jonathan Taylor. And then you could bump these guys up to probably starts
Starting point is 00:38:09 and we'd be good. I think, okay, fine. But I just know that every week I'm asking starter Joe Mixon. And it's like, it's easy to call him a must start now, but he's really been pretty bad except for one game. I know I'm not going to fault him for last week. He did get a little banged up. Gibson's a name. He's a
Starting point is 00:38:30 start that I don't feel great about. Or he might even be in your next category. Yeah, I think he's in the next category. Okay, the starts, but I hate myself for starting them. Fine, we can put Gibson there. Melvin Gordon, Daryl Henderson, Devin Singletary, James White, strictly PPR 15 catches
Starting point is 00:38:47 in his last two games Melvin Gordon Daryl Henderson Devin Singletary uh Antonio Gibson James White disagree with any of those do you feel better about them than I do no I don't I think that's perfect I think you nailed that one yeah I would um I think I'm I'm just about to the point of putting Daryl Henderson in the category above with David Montgomery and David Johnson. But you know that at some point it's going to switch. He was fine last week. I don't know that it is either.
Starting point is 00:39:16 But you know he doesn't catch passes. I've got Henderson in a bunch of leagues, but they've got acres. They've got to find a way to get him on the field more. Well, but not if he's not as good as Daryl Henderson. The way that Adam felt about starting David Johnson is how I feel about starting Daryl Henderson. And the worst part about it is that I don't know which week is going to be the week that Daryl Henderson
Starting point is 00:39:36 goes from 15 touches to five. It could happen. So, Dave, I think it's a good comparison. It could happen as soon as this week. It's a great comparison between those two. Here's the thing. They don't catch the ball. And that is a huge deal in the NFL these days.
Starting point is 00:39:50 But they both are getting most of the goal line work. The thing is, David Johnson is not going to lose those touches to Duke Johnson unless it's fluky. Whereas Henderson, obviously, you just don't know what's going to happen. There's much less certainty with his job than there is for David Johnson. I think Henderson's a better player than David Johnson at this point, but he's not a better fantasy option. It would be much better if Malcolm Brown or Cam Akers were hurt again. Look, any running back who's getting one to two catches per game or less
Starting point is 00:40:20 is going to scare me, bottom line. And this is more of a PPR exercise. Except for Derrick Henry. Except for Derrick, yes. Except for Derrick Henry. So that's why I'm kind of like lower on David Johnson, Daryl Henderson, Kenyon Drake, you know. And why, honestly, I could see Heath, David Montgomery
Starting point is 00:40:36 moving up into the must-starts faster than the other ones would. The bi-week replacements. Adrian Peterson and Damian Harris in non--ppr devante freeman did see i thought i think you might disagree with that devante freeman he's had 19 touches two games in a row justin jackson jd mckissick are they better than that use freeman and jackson up a tier um and uh other than that i'm good with it i agree. We're seeing Freeman's playing time go up. He had 19 of the 20 running back touches last week for the Giants,
Starting point is 00:41:09 but you hate yourself for starting him. And then like this next year, I think you just like maybe didn't see the Lions game this week. The hoping to start at some point, DeAndre Swift, Chase Edmonds, Zach Moss, Leonard Fournette, Philip Lindsay, Le'Veon Bell, the Baltimore running backs, and Tevin Coleman. I guess, yeah, the question is, are you already convinced that the Andre Swift is worth starting? Because I just don't know from one game that I'm buying in yet. He's at worst a bi-week replacement. Yeah, he plays Atlanta. The good is that he played awesome, but he did it against Jacksonville. And his playing time was exactly the same as it was pre-bye.
Starting point is 00:41:47 And then the Lions are for sure going to use multiple running backs week after week unless guys really get hurt. But they've got to find ways to keep using him. He's the best running back, period. At the very least, he's in the same tier as Adrian Peterson. He's not behind Adrian Peterson. Absolutely. I'd rather start Swift than Peterson.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Well, now you would, but last week you wouldn't. We're doing this now. I understand, but it could be just an overreaction from one game. That's why he's in the bi-week replacement tier and not the I hate myself for starting him the starts, but I hate myself for starting them tier.
Starting point is 00:42:22 Or the starts, but I don't feel great about them tier. I think that's rushing them up the flagpole a little too soon, but by this time next week, he could be in one of those tiers. Yeah, I hope so. By the way, I hope so too. I'd love to see it. Falcons have been pretty good against the run Alexander Madison, but
Starting point is 00:42:37 they do obviously struggle with running backs in the passing game. So hopefully Swift can take advantage of that. Hopefully the Lions realize that and the why are they on my team tier is Malcolm realize that. And the why are they on my team tier is Malcolm Brown and Josh Kelly. Why are they on my team? Depth. You don't want to be caught
Starting point is 00:42:56 without running backs. There's a chance that Joshua Kelly outplays Justin Jackson this week. He's going to have to do it on fewer touches. I think Jackson's going to get more work, but he could do something positive or Justin Jackson could week. He's going to have to do it on fewer touches because I think Jackson's going to get more work. But he could do something positive or Justin Jackson could fumble twice. All right, here's how we're going to finish the show.
Starting point is 00:43:11 We're going to go Giants-Eagles. We're going to do the Fantasy Cops. I'm going to read your APR Apple Podcast review questions. The Giants are at the Eagles. Interesting game because the Eagles opened as... Nah! Eagles opened at seven-point favorites. They're now four-point favorites.
Starting point is 00:43:25 The total is very low in this game at 44. Both teams have faced Pittsburgh, San Francisco, the Rams, and the football team. Those are the four common opponents so far. In those four games, the Giants allowed 98 points. The Eagles allowed 122 points. Does that mean anything to you? Because I keep bringing this up
Starting point is 00:43:44 because we're so gung-ho on the Eagles in terms of the waiver wire this week. Carson Wentz, are we starting Boston Scott? Are we starting Travis Fulgham? If Dallas Goddard plays this and that, the Giants defense has actually been all right this year. I don't,
Starting point is 00:43:57 I don't buy it. I think it's schedule related, but also I think the Eagles offense kind of been sucky this year. So, you know, the fact that the Giants have been 24 points better defensively against common opponents is pretty interesting to me. And what does it mean to you,
Starting point is 00:44:11 Heath, as we kind of look at the Eagles in this game, I was just looking, there is not one top 12 quarterback for me in this game. There's not one top 24 running back for me in this game. There's not one top 24 running back for me in this game. There's not one top 20 wide receiver for me in this game. There's not one top 12 tight end for me in this game. There is not a player that I really want to start. The closest would be Travis Fulcombe. And maybe if Alshon Jeffrey comes comes back that might change um yeah so i i i'm not
Starting point is 00:44:50 gun ho i'd rather start i'd rather stream derrick carr than i would carson wentz um even against the box okay i at like davante freeman i would rather start him than Boston Scott. Dave, how do you feel about that? Which running back do you like better? I like Freeman a little bit better. I think that his workload is safer than Boston Scott's. I already have major regrets
Starting point is 00:45:20 about spending so much money on Boston Scott. I told you. How much did you spend? It's our 14-team team podcast league and I have Miles Sanders and I got him for $35 out of $100 budget. Is he number 35? Did you do that on purpose? Oh, yeah, that must have been it. I just I thought you had it.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Isn't that the rule? You have to use their jersey number. That's why I hope I don't have to bid on any offensive lineman. Yeah, don't bid on TJ Watt. You know, it's going to be either... Or J.J. Watt. It's going to be either Boston Scott or Melvin Gordon, and I'm two and four, and I think I'll just go with Boston Scott.
Starting point is 00:45:51 So, you know, that's a situation. But why? No, I wouldn't do that. You'd go with Melvin Gordon? Phillip Lindsay coming off such a good game? I don't know. I'm kind of nervous there. I'm just...
Starting point is 00:46:03 And this, like, listen, we don't really know. These are two very, very bad football teams. So it could go either way, but I am not particularly excited about the offensive output in this game. If I didn't make that clear by saying
Starting point is 00:46:19 I don't have anyone ranked as a starter. So you think Fulgham is the best wide receiver in the game. Dave, who do you think is the best wide receiver in the game? Darius Slayton. Not a short week. He's dealing with a foot injury. Maybe he sees a little bit of Darius Slay, which, oh, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Slay versus Slayton, which happened last year, by the way. Darius Slay versus Darius Slayton. Like, that's pretty incredible. I think we need to appreciate that. Probably spend five more minutes on that. Why Slay over, why Slayton over Fulgham? Because I think he's just got more upside. Plain and simple.
Starting point is 00:46:50 Better downfield receiver. Certainly can get a lot of targets. Fulgham has been getting... The only reason why Fulgham has been good is because Carson Wentz is just chucking it at him 10 times a game. And listen, he's making contested catches. He's doing okay with them. I'm not convinced that this keeps going. I he, listen, he's, he's making contested catches. He's, he's doing okay with them. I'm not convinced that this keeps going. I mean,
Starting point is 00:47:08 I guess I am. He's a top 24 receiver and PPR, but it's toward the bottom of it. Okay. So I'm just going to do some either ors. Let's start with quarterbacks. Would you rather have Carson Wentz? Heath's already said Derek Carr.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Dave, would you rather have Carr or Wentz? I have Wentz two spots ahead of Carr as of Wednesday morning. Justin Herbert or Carson Wentz? Herb. You're going to be astonished when you see I think where Justin Herbert is in the rankings and in the projections. Top three?
Starting point is 00:47:38 I was kind of concerned because he came out at number six in my initial projections this week and I went and looked at Sportsline and he was number one. That's incredible. That's wild. He's eighth for me. Justin Herbert is.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Wentz or Minshew? Wentz. Minshew. Okay. Let's see. Jamie has Wentz 14th, Dave 13th, and Heath 19th. Okay. Boston Scott, Devontae Freeman.
Starting point is 00:48:05 You guys both like Devontae Freeman better. How about Boston, Scott, Devontae Freeman, or your favorite wide receiver in this game? Who's the best flex option, I guess? The receiver. Yeah, Fulgham. Okay, because to set up the matchup here, at least for Freeman,
Starting point is 00:48:25 the Eagles, I mean, they're really good against running backs. Daryl Henderson had a very good game against them. Other than that, it's been tough sledding. You know, there have been some touchdowns, but the yard has been very low. They give up 3.21 yards per carry to running backs, and we knew that going in.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I mean, they consistently, they have Fletcher Cox. They have a great run defense. And the Giants have been a lot better. Four straight games where they haven't allowed a 15-yard carry. Let's do a prop bet. 15-yard carry to a running back. It's been four straight games they haven't allowed one. Over-under, longest rushing, longest carry for Boston Scott only.
Starting point is 00:49:01 Not Corey Clement. Boston Scott, 14.5 yards over-under. I would take the under. Okay. And part of that is because I'm not sure how many carries he's going to get. Hopefully he can be involved in the passing game. When I said that I would start Freeman over Boston Scott, I don't want to start either of them.
Starting point is 00:49:21 So would you start Daryl Henderson over them over them oh yeah yep would you start devin single drastically yeah would you start devin singletary over them yes i've got singletary one spot ahead of freeman and non-ppr i would start justin jackson over them i would start jared mckinnon over them i would start keelan cole over them. I would start Tim Patrick over them. I do not want to start them. Deshaun Jackson, Sterling Shepard, if he plays. Thoughts real quick. No. No.
Starting point is 00:49:54 No. How about Dallas Goddard if he plays? I'm 99.9% sure he is not going to play. Okay. Well, if he plays not going to play. Okay. Well, if he plays, start him, I guess. We'll get the official word before this day. He has not returned to practice yet. Well, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:50:14 He's on the IR. He can practice while being on the IR. Well, but they were saying Sterling Shepard was at practice, and I don't think Dallas Goddard was. Right. So if there are reports that Goddard isn't practicing, even though he's on IR, then we know. Okay. It is...
Starting point is 00:50:27 Stop me if you've heard this one before. It's a great matchup for Evan Ingram. Start or sit? It is a great matchup for him. People who have him are going to be frustrated by this. He's getting open. And he's not getting double teamed. But Daniel Jones is just under siege every single play
Starting point is 00:50:47 and not looking for him every single play. And that's why he's not giving you huge numbers. And also, he's not catching the football. And also, he's not doing anything when he does catch the football. Like, it's not just a... They have him run four-yard routes, and when he catches it, he falls down afterwards.
Starting point is 00:51:06 They've got him running routes longer than four yards for sure. He's not being targeted on those routes. His average depth of target is right around four. Let me just speed it up here. Evan Ingram, Dave, you actually have him 10th.
Starting point is 00:51:22 I think I'm 10th. Heath, you have him 15th. It's not with a lot of confidence. So would you start Gronk, Hooper? Maybe in PPR. How about... Well, we're not going to really know about Felser. I need to correct myself.
Starting point is 00:51:38 His average depth of target is all the way up to 4.9. Robert Tanyan or Ingram? Tanyan. I'll take Ingram. And the most exciting play in this game is the Eagles DST. They are third. Giants DST is also okay.
Starting point is 00:51:52 But Eagles DST number three overall. And that is Thursday Night Football, Dave. Na, na, na, na, na, na, na, na. Okay, that was well done. I have a better song than that. It's time for the Fantasy Cops. Let's get your league issues settled here. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:52:09 This one comes from Terry from a town in southwest Missouri. That's all you eat. Southwest Missouri. Oh, that's Springfield. Oh, okay. Okay. Dear Wayne, Derry, and Dan. I don't know them.
Starting point is 00:52:22 This is a future Fantasy Cop question. Adam, I've heard you reference a couple of times that fantasy commissioners need to be prepared for schedule adjustments if when the NFL adds a week 18. I agree that the NFL is likely to add a week 18 when a game is postponed and there are no more buys available to adjust, but I'm confused at what you're suggesting that fantasy commissioners do to the schedule. Are you suggesting we add a week to the fantasy football regular season or make the championship matchup
Starting point is 00:52:47 a combination of week 16 and 17? Won't this create several future fantasy cop debates when a team is eliminated from the playoffs that would have made it without the extra week or a team that would have won it after week 16 loses when combined with week 17? Aren't we better off just leaving the schedule as is and playing DFS in Week 17 or 18?
Starting point is 00:53:08 If you leave your fantasy schedule as is, and there are teams that lose games between now and Week 17 that are played after Week 17, those are games that you're not getting credit for when you would have during a normal typical football season. So a fantasy manager would have a gripe for that too. Hey, I didn't make the playoffs because Derek Henry didn't play in week 12.
Starting point is 00:53:32 There's no solution. We're right. I believe it is. If there is a solution, first of all, no one wants to have a long-term solution. Like, okay,
Starting point is 00:53:44 whenever this game is made up, you'll get credit for it in week 12, and then we'll play it out. You don't want to do that. Just leave it as is, you're saying? For now, until we come up with something better. Do you think it's possible that the NFL has a week 18, but only a few teams or half the league are playing?
Starting point is 00:54:02 I think it's possible they have a week 18 and only four teams are playing. But I think it's think it's possible they have a week 18 and only four teams are playing. But I think it's also possible they don't have a week 18. I mean, we just... I kind of think the week 18 odds went down considerably when the Patriots played
Starting point is 00:54:14 the day after they added three players to the COVID list. Yeah, maybe. I just... I'm concerned. I don't want to get political here, but obviously cases are rising. It's going to be winter.
Starting point is 00:54:26 We could have a lot more COVID cases, so we could, we'll see. All right. Thank you for the email from Chris. In our league on Monday night, CeeDee Lamb fumbled a punt return and then recovered the ball
Starting point is 00:54:39 and was given plus one points for a fumbled, for a fumble recovery on special teams. There's no point given to position players on offense for a fumble recovery but the scoring was set up where if a fumble is recovered on special teams a point is rewarded the opponent of the team with cd lamb noticed this and demanded the point be taken away halfway through the game the commissioner made an executive decision that a point should not be rewarded for recovering your own football, and the point was subtracted from CD's stat line.
Starting point is 00:55:08 As the game came to an end, the owner with CD Lamb lost by.4 points. This mistake and correction cost the CD Lamb fantasy manager a loss. It really cost him a win. Please regulate and leave your opinion. Alright, so he would have won
Starting point is 00:55:24 on this obscure rule that you get a point for a special team's fumble recovery. The commissioner decided midway through the game to remove that rule, and that decided the matchup. What do the fantasy cops think? I would say that, I mean, you put together a list of three names that you think would be the most responsible commissioners.
Starting point is 00:55:43 You call each of those guys and say, if I nominate you, would you be willing to be the commissioner? You obviously fire your current commissioner and kick him out of the league because you can't change rules in the middle of a game. Even if you didn't know the rules. You should know what your rules are before the season starts. You could see how something like this would slip through the cracks
Starting point is 00:55:59 and you have no idea. Commissioner's fired, kicked out of the league, find a new commissioner and a replacement fantasy manager for him. And then get rid of this stupid rule. So you would have let it stand? Bumble recovery on special teams. You would have let it stand?
Starting point is 00:56:14 I would not let him stand as commissioner any longer. It's a farce. But the rules are the rules are the rules. You know what? I'm going to go rogue here. I'm going to be the bad cop. I'm going to say, I think it's a stupid rule. We all agree it's a stupid rule.
Starting point is 00:56:30 Very much so. It's such a random rule that I could see how someone would be unaware of its existence. And I am completely fine with what the commissioner did, making the in-game change to eliminate a dumb rule that decided a fantasy matchup. I think he did the right thing. I'm not arresting
Starting point is 00:56:50 this commissioner. I'm not arresting him. You're the fantasy cop. That's the only power you have. You can't kick people out of leagues. You can bring them in for questioning. Extradite. My ruling is the scoring should stand,
Starting point is 00:57:06 and then after this week, you should eliminate the scoring or keep it for the rest of the year and then eliminate it. I mean, either way, you're going to have somebody so rightfully mad at you that the only thing you could do if you have any sort of pride at all is step down and retire from fantasy football forever. Oh, wow. All right. So it's two to one that say that lamb,
Starting point is 00:57:27 that the lamb manager should get the point and win. And then I, of course was right. So thank you for your fantasy questions. Keep sending them in. We'll read them on the Saturday mailbag. All right. That brings us to our Apple podcast questions.
Starting point is 00:57:39 We will also read these on the Saturday mailbag. This is from CEO Rex grade, the trade, give up Le'Veon Bell and DJ Chark. Get Devante Adams. A. Plus. From Jacob L. Grade the trade.
Starting point is 00:57:54 James Robinson and Tyler Boyd for Michael Thomas. That's even. A. Oh, interesting. From I Feel Your Pain. Should I trade Le'Veon Bell for Austin Eckler? I have Justin Jackson and Josh Kelly.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Yes. Yeah. From Park Slope Jordan. Would you trade Dalvin Cook and Stafford for Mahomes and Metcalf in Dynasty? Yes. Oh, hell yeah. Yep. Yep. Yep. That's Yes. Oh, hell yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 00:58:26 Yep. Yep. That's juicy. Oh, we have a Fantasy Cops question. From Clay Chasepool. I had a conflict with two of my drafts, so I had a friend draft for me in my college league. Five minutes before the start, he texted me in a panic,
Starting point is 00:58:44 asking if it was a keeper league. So I logged on and it asked me to pick keepers. I quickly selected Lamar Jackson and DJ Chark. The draft starts and everyone freaks out asking why I already have two players because it's not a keeper league. The commissioner
Starting point is 00:59:00 is auto-drafting an MIA, unable to fix it. The draft continues and it turns out those keepers are the picks for my first two rounds. I know I started with a disadvantage, but it still feels like I screwed everyone over somehow. Should I be feeling guilty for this? Is this season permanently tainted? The season's
Starting point is 00:59:16 permanently tainted, yes. And if I was in your league, I'd probably kick you out of the league. But most importantly, like, we've already taken the reins away from one commissioner you're telling me the commissioner did not show up for your draft and auto drafted his own team he is not a commissioner you don't have a commissioner you need to find a commissioner but also you took lamar jackson and dj charke with your first two picks so i think that that
Starting point is 00:59:44 makes up for your mistake. Like those are terrible picks now in retrospect and your team sucks. The season isn't tainted for anybody except you, Clay. And the commissioner who auto-picked his team and did not show up for the draft. That's really bad. Yeah, that's not a good question. And Kelly Rose says, Fantasy Cop's music is a hit.
Starting point is 01:00:00 Improvement over regulators. What about this regulators? Oh, yeah. I don't know. How does anybody think that that sounds like the regulator? It sounds a little bit like it. No, it does not. It sounds nothing like it. It was a clear black
Starting point is 01:00:22 night, a clear dark. What is it? No, I said dark night, a clear dark... What is it? Did you just say dark? No, I said dark night, black moon. I don't know what I was saying. It was a... What was it? What's the line? Clear dark night, a clear white moon.
Starting point is 01:00:35 I don't know. Schrager, please cut that and send it to me. Oh, man. Yeah. Regulators. We've only been playing the song for years. We're out of here, ladies gentlemen Thanks for listening to My Bix See ya
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