Fantasy Football Today - Trick or Treat (AFC)! Start Jaylen Waddle? JK Dobbins? Zay Flowers? (10/31 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 31, 2024

Happy Halloween! We'll try not to scare you too much but we have spooky team names to give you in addition to players we love (3:10) and players to avoid (5:30). Chase Brown is our Start of the Week! Meanwhile, Zay Flowers will be a tough call against the Broncos ... News and notes (11:15) and One Question for Each Game (15:45)! Can you trust any Bucs other than Cade Otton? Will Courtland Sutton be a Trick or a Treat? Start Jakobi Meyers? Nick Chubb? ... Start or Sit for Bucs-Chiefs (25:05), Broncos-Ravens (34:10), Colts-Vikings (43:10), Chargers-Browns (50:30), Dolphins-Bills (57:15), Raiders-Bengals (1:04:00) and Patriots-Titans (1:12:00) ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is fantasy football today from CBS sports It's time to dominate your fantasy league Here's some combination of Adam Dave Jamie and he Well, hello everyone and welcome to Fantasy Football Today presented by Ben MGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. Happy Halloween, I am old man Azer. I was born in the 1930s and I welcome my colleague Jerry Eisenberg. Hey, good morning Jerry. Happy Halloween.

I don't even know where to begin. I give your mustache six minutes before it falls off. Do you want to explain everybody what's going on right now? Do I want to explain what's going on right now? Yes, you're dressed up for Halloween. You look fantastic. You have Like an old-school fedora on As your hat you have glasses on and then to spice things up and make yourself look as old as you possibly can you have a

What I guess is a white mustache and white eyebrows. They're gray, gray. Oh, it looks white, gray, white, same. Yes. What's nice is that your mustache will never ever grow in like that in your life. Do I have to? But those eyebrows are almost exactly to a T of what you'll look like when you're older. Is the mustache upside down?

Someone said it's upside down. It might be. All right, let's flip that then. Maybe that'll help it stay on. I don't know. Well, anyway, Jamie, if I'm a little tired this morning, it's because I was at Yankee Stadium watching Duke Snyder and Mickey Mantle battle it out last night. So-

Hope you'll have before the fifth inning. I do. Goodness gracious. Anyway, let's get into the show. Happy Halloween, everybody. We'll do some trick or treat with all our controversial players later. But Jamie, who's a player that we love this week? Not your mustache.

I don't know. Chase Brown is the start of the week. So, very excited about his outlook against the Raiders. Unfortunately, we have to change the number. It's no longer 15 and a half PPR points for every running back. It's now 13.1 I think. We'll be fine. We'll be running back range.

And just given the way that he's performed, he's had an absolutely brutal schedule. He's come through in some tough matchups with touchdowns, you know, certainly against the Baltimore Ravens. He caught a touchdown. But I think, you know, just based on how many touches he'll get, which should be 15 plus, how this game should unfold at home were their favorites. This could be one of Chase Brown's, if not, maybe his best game of the season.

So I haven't ranked 19. I feel like it's a little bit low. I probably find a spot or two to get him higher. It's actually pretty good week for running backs, but love the setup for Chase Brown. Yeah, as Jamie was referring to, running back has scored 15.5 or more fantasy points in all but one game.

Going into last week was every game, but then Kareem Hunt didn't quite reach that. He did score a touchdown that we just didn't really catch any passes. All right. Heath is about to join us. Let's see before we get onto players to avoid if we can get Mr. Heath Cummings on here. He was obviously he. Oh, welcome, Keith. I hope you are out trick or treating this morning and that's why you're running a little late. I got all the treats that I needed last night.

Oh, that's such a dirty thing to say. Why would you say something like that? It's a hater. Who's a player you love this week, Keith? Derek Carr. Can I just go back and say all the things that I said about Bo Nix last week? He's facing the Panthers.

Carr had 27 fantasy points in week one against this team. They just gave up 34 fantasy points to Bo Nix. He Garrett Carr says he's not a savior. He's your fantasy team savior for this week. Oh my goodness. I'd feel so nervous starting him coming off the injury. Where do you have him ranked? 12, 11.

Okay, so would you start him over Kyler Murray against the Bears? No. Caleb Williams at the Cardinals? Yes. How about Trevor Lawrence assuming Thomas plays? I would start Clark. Okay, all right, let's go to some players to avoid.

By the way, the games we're going to preview today, Tampa Bay at Kansas City, Denver at Baltimore, Indianapolis at Minnesota, Chargers at Browns, Miami at Buffalo, Raiders at Bengals, and New England at Tennessee. Is that it? I feel like there should be one more. All right, I think that's it.

All right, players to avoid, Jamie, who are we sitting? Not sitting him, but I'm nervous about Zay Flowers. We don't know exactly what Deontay Johnson's going to do, how much he'll play, if he'll play at all, but it's not really about that. It's obviously about Denver. And I know he'll move around and Sir Tan may not follow him all over the place,

but this is still a situation where every number one receiver that he's faced of significance has been shut down. And so if you can avoid him, avoid him. Yeah, there's only one I think that did well, right? Jacoby Myers, would you say, would you call him? Would you put him in that? Jacoby Myers has the best game for a number one receiver against the Broncos.

Six catches. You could say Chris Godwin. You could say Chris Godwin if you want to go that route, but we know what he did against Evans in terms of Surtan. Right, Evans had 17 yards on two catches, Godwin had 53 yards in a touchdown. What were you saying about the slot rate Heath? Jacobi Myers didn't go to the slot hardly at all.

Yeah. Like he did that as an outside wide receiver. Yeah, that was the best, right. He wasn't, and he wasn't shadowed by Surtan, but he saw him quite a bit. We'll talk about that a little bit later, that whole slot rate thing. And that does make Zay Flowers a little bit different

than the other guys, but yeah, it's a tough matchup. So, this mustache just will not. You just cannot keep it on. There's nothing I can do. It's gonna be off. So who should we start over Zay Flowers? Would you start J.K. Dobbins against the Browns? I do not like J.K. Dobbins either. That was my other choice depending on what Heath was

going to say. So Dobbins in a tough spot. Again, I still haven't ranked as a starter. He's 23rd. If he does not score touchdown, it's going to be bad. His game logs, his performances this season, if he's not finding the end zone, he hasn't exactly produced a good fantasy number. Now the Browns have allowed seven rushing touchdowns to running backs this season, so that's in his favor. But this is just a really good run defense that has made things very uncomfortable for a lot of running backs. So you know that they're going to stack the box and try and make Justin Herbert beat them. And I think it's going to be a little bit difficult for JK Dobbins. Those are the two guys that have his bust alerts in their respective positions.

Is he in your top 24 Zay Flowers? Zay Flowers is 24th. I know you're going to start downs over. What about Pitman? I have both Colts receivers over Zay Flowers? Zay Flowers is 24th. I know you're going to start down. You're going to start down. So what about Pittman? I have both Colts receivers over Zay Flowers. All right, Heath, who are we avoiding this week? Javontae Williams, Baltimore Ravens, like the one definite true difference maker against the run them and the Chiefs, I guess that makes two. Very concerned that Denver is going to do much of anything offensively in this game, unless it's Bo Nicks just throwing deep against these corners.

And so I do not have John Givante Williams ranked as a top 24 running back. I would start Zay Flowers over him. I would start J.K. Dobbins over him. I would start Alexander Madison over him. I would start Tank Bigsby even in full PPR over him. I just want to say a couple of things about these running backs. Alexander Madison over him. I would start Tank Bigsby even in full PPR over him. I just want to say a couple things about these running backs. So Michael Pierce for the Ravens is on IR. He's their nose tackle. They have actually allowed fewer yards per carry with him

off the field. 2.8 with him off the field. I mean, I feel like it should be something that hurts the Ravens run defense, but we'll see. All right, but we'll assume they're going to have a great run defense. I just have one question because I agree with you 100%. But this is the one thing I keep going back to with Givante because first off, if you can't have success against the Panthers, from our perspective, it's hard to trust him, right? Like going in a tougher matchup. But and you've you brought this up a few times, times Adam this week, that they struggle with pass

catching running backs. And we know what the Broncos like to do with their running backs, to throw to them. Now he had four catches for eight yards last week, so it's not like he's going to go out and have a Devon Achan, Alvin Camaro type of game. But I just wonder if that's where the Broncos lean with him, with McLaughlin, and not necessarily, I mean they're going run the ball but not necessarily try and win the game by running between the tackles and does does Devante have a chance to win there now again I'm not sitting him I would not recommend sitting him I probably

have him lower than you do. You're not starting him. Yes I'm not starting him but I just wonder if like that's an opportunity for the Broncos backfield in some capacity whether it's McLaughlin, whether it's Williams, who knows. I also wonder with Gervonta, like after the way he ran against the Panthers, does he lose work? Because that was not a good game. Yeah. Yeah, I know that's why you were saying to pick up

Jaleel McLaughlin. Okay, so let's get, what's it's a flood. So that's a game, that's an interesting game, Baltimore, Denver, one of the best defenses against obviously one of the best offenses. And we'll talk about that a little bit. Make sure you check out FFT dynasty. Make sure you check out Beyond the Box score, the Thursday episode that they do. Make sure you check out CBS Sports Network shows at 1 p.m.

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Bay. Will Levis has a chance to play this week. Do you guys want him to play or do you want Mason Rudolph? Rudolph. Yeah, sure. OK, just hand the ball to Tony Pollard. As you've already heard, Derek Carr is likely to start and Bryce Young is going to start for Carolina. Running back news, Tyrone Tracy's in the concussion protocol against Washington. Doug Peterson is optimistic about Travis Etienne at Philadelphia.

Jonathan Brooks looks like he could be coming back this week. He's practicing in full, might make his debut. We'll talk about that game tomorrow. They're facing the Saints. Does this make Chuba Hubbard an easy sit if he plays, if Brooks plays? No, not at all. Okay. If Brooks plays, I think I'd probably have Chuba

in the Givante range. Let's see, Tony Pollard mispracticed, which just the Wednesday mispracticed. Don't think it's a big deal. And Tajay Spears was limited hoping he gets back this week. Josh Jacobs mispracticed, but he said he's going to play. And Jerome Ford was limited for Cleveland. Tonight's game, Alan Lazard is out at wide receiver. The Jaguars wide receivers are trending in the right direction. Amari Cooper and Curtis Samuel are questionable.

I didn't even know Amari Cooper had an injury, I will confess. But he's on the injury report. I think it's a wrist injury for Cooper. T Higgins day to day, he didn't practice on Wednesday. Tyler Lockett limited, DK Metcalfe missed practice, but he could get back on the field today. And Calvin Ridley missed practice.

Tied in, Dallas Goddard missed practice. Noah Phant was limited. Will Disley of the Chargers been good a couple weeks in a row. He mispractice. The big offensive line news. Cleveland left tackle. Jedrick Wills practice. Houston's going to be without offensive lineman Jared Patterson tonight.

Jaguars might get guard Ezra Cleveland back this week. He left last week's game early. The Raiders their center Andre James could be a bad one for their lousy run game, but he missed practice. Atlanta could be getting Drew Dallman, their center back soon. He's off IR. Three Packers offensive linemen missed practice.

So we're gonna keep an eye on that. That's not the defensive front against Detroit that you wanna be missing three starters. And on defense, the Jets come into tonight's game a little beat up with a safety out, with CJley out and the Texans are beat up Jimmy Ward a safety and a linebacker for both teams good players are out this week and we'll update you on the other stuff but I think Jeremiah Uso Karamoa being ruled out for Cleveland that's a big one Michael Pierce going on IR for Baltimore

Tennessee has their past defense whether it's coincidence or not has been much worse the last two weeks with the Jerry has sneed out and they faced New England this week and sneed did not practice. And that will do it for the news. And there's two big ones in Green Bay, Evan Williams and Jair Alexander, you know, both left last week's game, both missed practice on Wednesday. Clearly Detroit would love to not see them there. Trevor Lawrence with those guys off the field. Alexander's injury was late but Williams when they left everything I read about Green Bay was like their their secondary was just not great. Trevor Lawrence had his best

fantasy day of this best fantasy game of the season. That that would be big. I don't think Jared Goff's ever had he's never had a great game in Green Bay. I think he's only topped 250 passing yards once in Green Bay in his career. And they are getting Quay Walker back though. They're a linebacker he will play. We'll do one question for each game after this break. Un-Fantasy football today, kids.

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what we saw last week. And for what it's worth, let's give Baker Mayfield some credit. You know, loses receivers and still comes out and has another 28 point fantasy day. Like it's just, he's finding a way to get it done. But I think just based on the defense and the matchup, it's tough to say they're starters.

All right, next game. Let's go to Denver at Baltimore. Cortland Sutton, trick or treat. Treat. What did you just put up there? Adam tapes cotton balls to face. Costume is ready. These glasses are like very old glasses too.

You can't tell. And there's a pipe somewhere that I'm missing. I hope a treat. I've got him ranked like right on the border of trick or treat, but I'm probably starting him. Sutton or Zay Flowers? Sutton for me. Who's Sutton for Jamie?

Zay for Heath? So I know Zay's had a better season. Have they had the same amount of good games? Like no, I don't think 15 point games. I don't think so. I'm sure there's a cutoff. I think you'd be surprised at how close it is. I'm going to say it's four to two, Zay.

Let's take a look. How many? 15 points? Let's see. One, two, three. Three for Sutton. Okay, then it's four to three. And they probably had the same amount of games with four or fewer points.

Two for Flowers. No, how about six or fewer points? Three of those for Flowers. That's crazy. Indianapolis at Minnesota. TJ Hawkinson, trick or treat. Trick. It's a trick, but like I've got some teams where I've been starting just miserable tight ends every week and Hawkinson was on the IR for me. I'm probably just going to go ahead and start them even though I don't have him ranked as a top 18 guy this week.

I read a really good article on ESPN about the Vikings offense and it made me a little more hopeful for TJ Hawkinson because it talked about how they don't really have a guy that works in that area of the field. You know, they run their offense through two players, Aaron Jones and Justin Jefferson. And Hawkinson gives them a dimension that they just haven't had. And I didn't really think about that, but that's, that's a really interesting point. Also brought up some, some cool stats on the Vikings. Like they, could you imagine, I mean, just think about this, Justin Jefferson is having such a good season. He's quarterback proof, whatever. They also

are averaging the fewest pass attempts per game in the NFL. And when we evaluated Justin Jefferson in the preseason, you know, as well, it's the Vikings, they're gonna have so much volume, it's not gonna matter. If I had told you in the preseason that Darnold would be the quarterback and they were gonna have the fewest pass attempts in the NFL, just think about what we would have thought for Jefferson. So that's amazing. What have the past attempts been since London? Still pretty low. I don't even think he's had a 30 pass attempt game. He hold, and the other thing that the article mentioned is that he holds the ball, I believe,

longer than any quarterback, Sam Darnold, in the NFL. Once the ball is snapped, he's holding the ball. He's like waiting and waiting and waiting. So keep an eye on that left tackle situation for sure. But it was interesting stuff. That's a big part of the reason they have, I don't think there's necessarily a huge like run heavy desire in Minnesota, but he has a 10% sack rate,

which is extremely high. And then also he's average, like they have all the throw the ball 15 yards downfield every time they throw it. So they're just, it's just chunk play after chunk play after chunk play. And all of a sudden we don't have the ball anymore. And he has a 31 pass. Heath, I don't know how you track this or not, but like you should be making offers for JJ McCarthy in dynasty.

Yeah. Right. Like if Donald can do this, then McCarthy theory can be really good. Especially if somebody needs something, you know, that it's a contender. All right. Sorry. Back to one question for each game. Chargers are at Cleveland.

Who is the best wide receiver in this Chargers-Browns game? Only one wide receiver has had more than seven targets against the Chargers. It was last week, it was Chris Olave. But who's the best wide receiver in this game? Well, Adam McConkey. Adam McConkey. Miami is at Buffalo. Who's the second best wide receiver in this game?

Jalen Water. Water. Okay. Are you assuming Cooper's gonna play or no? in this game? Jalen model model. OK, well, are you assuming Cooper's going to play or now? I have Cooper ranked the lowest of all the main receivers in this game. Behind Shakir and Coleman. Wow. I mean, listen, the Dolphins have not had good history throwing the ball against the Bills in the Tua era, even Tyree Kill. That's terrible.

All right, Las Vegas. He was also left two games against Buffalo in the square. Has he? Because I thought, all right, I thought he played full game, at least in the Tyree Kill era, I thought he had played full games, but maybe I'm wrong. Well, he left the first concussion that he suffered that was, well, I think it's the first concussion he suffered. Yeah, this week, I think it's the first concussion he suffered. Yeah, this week you mean?

This year? No, but 2022. Was that the non-concussion? Right. All right. Anyway, let's go to Las Vegas at Cincinnati. Jacoby Myers, trick or treat? Treat.

Treat. All right. Bengals have allowed 15 or more PPR fantasy points to six wide receivers in their last five games. New England at Tennessee, Ramondre Stevenson or Calvin Ridley? Um, Ramondre, if Drake may clears the protocol Ridley, if it's Jacoby Percent. So I'll go Ridley in full PPR. I think I'll go Ramon right now. I'm gonna go Ramon Andrea cost support.

Yeah, you know, Christian Gonzalez is the type of cornerback that I don't know, look, he's kind of up and down. But I always say this about Ridley, he does not do well against cornerbacks like good cornerbacks that shadow him. I'm almost positive that he's going to shadow Calvin Ridley, he does not do well against cornerbacks, like good cornerbacks that shadow him. I'm almost positive that he's going to shadow Calvin Ridley. Also Stevenson, like when they're close or winning, that's when he has good games. So what's the spread in that game? Three and a half

Patriots? Or tight? I'm pretty sure it's tight. You could have told me either one I would believe. Right? Let's see Patriots. That is a sorry, Titans spelled it wrong I can spell Titans right it is the Titans minus three and a half okay. If you had to watch that game or the fifth inning of the Yankees World Series game what would you rather watch? Oh my gosh you know so I was at the game and oh yeah I went I went first Yankees World Series. You didn't throw anything at anybody, right? No, I'm so pissed in that inning though.

They're just such a joke of a World Series team. I mean, they've been doing this kind of, not this bad, but they've been doing this kind of stuff all year. They're a terrible base running team, terrible defensive team, mental lapses. Cover first base, man. What are you doing? Cover first base.

What was he pointing at? He thought, I mean, the ball had a lot of spin on it. He thought Rizzo was gonna be able to get it. I guess he didn't realize how much spin was there and was hit so slowly. But that's totally on him. I don't know if he took responsibility. I haven't read any articles. But yeah, it's, that's, I mean, you always say this is the worst ever. You don't know. There's a hundred something years of baseball history. That's got to be one of the worst innings in baseball history, given the stakes. Terrible. I think they said if I'm not mistaken the largest comeback in a clinching game.

Awful. All right. Well, freeze up my Friday and Saturday night at least. All right. It is now time for the Workhorse to Watch segment. What are you going to do instead? Sleep. All right. Ready, Jamie? Now it's time for the Workhorse to Watch segment brought to you by Microsoft Copilot Plus PCs powered by Snapdragon, the fastest, most intelligent Windows PCs ever. In this segment, we'll identify a player whose battery just doesn't seem to run out, similar to Copilot Plus PCs. Jamie, who is our Workhorse to Watch? I mean, Kareem Hunt's been as good a workhorse as you can find in the NFL lately since he's taken over for Carson Steel, but obviously the injured Isaiah Pacheco. And

it feels like they're going to just run him into the ground until Pacheco comes back. So for fantasy managers that have been relying on Kareem Hunt, you know, you want to see Isaiah Pacheco take his time because the Chiefs are undefeated and looking like they're going to make another Super Bowl run. And until then, until Kareem Hunt comes off the field and gets replaced, he is going to be at least a number two running back. It's a tough matchup in week number nine against a good Bucks run defense. And as we've seen, he's definitely touchdown dependent. But are you betting against him at this point?

So he's his motors running and you know, keep him in your line. Would you start Kareem Hunt or JK Dobbins? I start Kareem Hunt. They're very similar. I start Kareem Hunt or J.K. Dobbins. I start Kareem Hunt. They're very similar. And so both tough matchups, I'll lean toward, you know, the guy who's actually been a little bit more consistent that's been Hunt.

All right. I'll go with Dobbins. Dobbins for Heath. That was the Workhorse to Watch segment brought to you by Microsoft Copilot Plus PCs. Whether you're multitasking like never before, working far from power outlets or sketching your own ideas

into existence. You can do it with the new Microsoft Copilot Plus PC powered by Snapdragon. Battery life varies by device and with usage and settings. And brings us right into Tampa Bay at Kansas City. It's, oh, and Dave is going to join us. Dave wanted to show off his costume. Hello, Dave. You have a costume?

What's up, grandpa? Hey, hey. Hello, Dave, you have a costume? What's up, grandpa? Hey, hello, Dan. What is your costume, young man? Well, I actually have the scariest costume of all of FFT. OK. I don't want to scare anybody because it's really spooky. But you should get the music ready. You want to see it?

Are you sure you can handle it? Yeah, I think I'm ready. Pitman! Oh, it's Michael Pippen. 12.7 PPR points per game with Flacco. Yeah. Oh, Dave has a Michael Pippen shirt. That is quite a shirt. Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween, Dave has a Michael Pippen shirt. That is quite a shirt.

Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween, Dave. Why don't you stick around for one game? Sure. How does that sound? All right, Tampa Bay is at Kansas City. Spooky name of the game, Arson Steel. All right, stat of the game number one.

Is that gonna be something you do for every game? Every game today, yeah. I'm ready to leave the show now. Okay, Thank you. Tampa Bay has allowed 36 or more fantasy points to three quarterbacks in their last four games. Kirk Cousins twice and Lamar Jackson. So start or sit Heath Cummings Baker Mayfield. He is a high end QB to you may not be able to find Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes. It was a Tampa Bay is bad against quarterback. It's my memory.

I'm sorry. That dementia. I was just planning on thinking of a better spooky name for each game as we go through the game. So yeah, I'm not starting Patrick Mahomes. I would start Baker Mayfield over Patrick Mahomes, but neither one of them are top 12 quarterbacks and I hope I can do better. All right.

I want everybody's opinion on that. Baker Mayfield or Patrick Mahomes, the matchup is so different here. Actually, I'll go Mahomes this week. Same here. I think they're both going to be, you know, right around 20 fantasy points. It's hard to expect more from Mahomes just based on how the season has gone. But this is a real tough test for Baker, you know, and, and I think he's going to struggle. So last week he kind of got by, I think based on the defense that he faced and Atlanta is going

to hopefully be good for Dak Prescott this week. I'm, I'm nervous about Baker. Where do you have car compared to Baker and Mahomes? In the same range. Car, Baker, Mahomes. In the same range. Car Baker Mahomes for me. Okay, I've got Mahomes right in front of car and then Baker behind them. Okay, Baker's 29.4 or more fantasy points in five straight games.

And a lot of people are gonna leave him on the bench, understandably so. All right, so Dave, talk to me about the running backs here and what you expect from Rashad White and Bucky Irving. We know the Chiefs, they are phenomenal. The fewest fantasy points allowed to running backs three yards per carry to running backs. But of course you get the passing game numbers here. So thoughts on rice on white and Irving. I like white better than Irving. Certainly the PR factor helps. And Rashad White, like give him credit. He's playing on third downs. He's

playing near the goal line more so than Irving. At least that was the case last week. I expect that to continue. Still expect him to see more targets and catches. Last week was the first time that, that Irving had more than three catches in a game. So I can't buy into him having seven targets and seven catches again. I need to see that again, before I confidently started them. I'll use them as a bi-week replacement running back. Rashad White just outside of my top 24 and feet in PPR. Any strong disagreements? Any hot takes on white? I mean, they're lower for me, but I agree.

Okay. I start Rico Daddle over both bucks running backs. Okay. How about Givante at Baltimore or a bucks running back? Both bucks running backs over Javante. I'll take white Williams Irving. I've got it Williams white Irving. All right. You know, actually one of the storylines in this game

is can the chief score against the bad defense and looking at what they've done this year, they don't really strike you as a great offense but they can put up 26-27 points they put up 27 against Baltimore 26 against New Orleans 27 at Las Vegas that's pretty relevant obviously because you want the Bucks to be throwing a lot and if he throws a lot he sort of threw 50 passes last week he threw 45 the week before if he's throwing a lot Rashad White's probably gonna you know I mean it's pretty realistic for him to have five catches, what he had last week, but that's what you're banking on. It's you need it. Any interests,

Jamie and Jalen McMillan or a Tampa Bay receiver? I'd like to still stash him. You know, we had this conversation yesterday on CBS Sports Network. He was one of the most dropped players based on our roster trends from the moves made Tuesday night. And I think we all agreed Heath, Robert, Turbin, and myself, that that was a little too soon to completely give up on him. Clearly, if you have to make some, you know, decisions like, you know, Josh Downs is available, you're dropping Jaylen McMillan for him or, you know, Cedric Tillman, you wanted to make that move.

I get it. But if you can still stash him, I would do so. He'd, he'd played the Godwin role and if they're going to be throwing 40 plus times consistently, which I think is going to be the case, then he's going to have some, some big games head. Oh, okay. Scream hunt. That's pretty good.

What did I have? Arson Steel? I think Arson Steel is better than Scream. No, at the Paramount franchise. Oh, that's true. That is true. Good point. Okay. K.Dotten is a top five tight end. Who are the tight ends you would start over K.Dotten this week? McBride, Bowers, Kelsey, and I think that's it for me.

Just McBride and Bowers. What about Evan Ingram? What about David Njoku? Just McBride and Bowers. Okay. I like Ingram because I think that the Jaguars are going to have to throw a lot and I don't know who's healthy a receiver for them right now. And then, and then Nijoku, I don't look, I don't think K-Down's catching two touchdowns again. And I do think volume will be in his favor, but Nijoku's gonna have good volume too. I do have Otten once by the Nijoku right now. I'm thinking about making that switch. All right. It is the best matchup on paper. Chiefs give out. And Ingram has the

worst matchup on paper. Yep. Yeah.. And Ingram has the worst matchup on paper. Yep. Chiefs give up. Yeah. Chiefs give up with the most fantasy points to tight ends. Okay. Mahomes, you guys sort of agree. Well, Heath has them even lower.

I think Heath has them 20th. Dave and Jamie have Mahomes 14th. Is that right? Or is that outdated? Let's see. He's 14th for me. I got him at 16. Okay.

And Heath has him 20th. And Kareem Hunt. Okay, we just talked about him a little bit earlier in our previous segment, our Microsoft segment here. He's a low end starter. He's got 20 or more carries in three straight games. The Bucks run defense. I mean, it is pretty surprising to see.

They're giving up five yards per carry at a running backs. They're usually more like 3.5 yards per carry to run as best, but they've only had a healthy defensive line for three games. In those three games, Kamara was terrible, Derrick Henry was very good, and then Bijan Robinson was good and Algier wasn't. So it's hard to say,

but it doesn't seem like they have the run defense that they used to have. And then Jamie, what are your thoughts on the Chiefs wide receivers in this game? Hopkins only played 32% of the snaps last week. He'll play more. I do like the fact that Worthy has eight targets each of the last two weeks.

So, you know, trying to get him going, scored a touchdown last week, but minimal yards on four catches. So he's a, I think desperation number three receiver, you know, with the chance of some big plays. If my homes is going to win, somebody else is going to have to help Kelsey. You know, Kelsey could have a two touchdown game, but that just hasn't been the profile for this season.

So I would, I would say Hopkins worthy. They're very similar. I lean toward worthy if you have to make a choice. And are they better than Zay Flowers or Cortland Sutton? No, no, no, no, no, no. Are they better than Zay Flowers or Cortland Sutton? No, no, no, no, no, no. Are they better than, let's see, Amare Cooper? No, I'm not there yet. Nope.

How about Tank Deltonite or a Chiefs receiver? Del. Del. Yeah. It's just such a shame because like, the Bucks, their pass defense is so bad, but I guess it'll be a big Kelsey game. Start Travis Kelsey.

And it looks like you guys want to start the Chiefs DST. Not a great DST week. So start the- It's a bad DST week. Yeah. Baker, despite his, you know, big games has been turnover prone. Yeah. Oh, for sure.

All right, Dave, thank you very much. Happy Halloween, sir. Happy Halloween to you. Don't forget to take your Metamucil. And we'll be right back after this advertisement on Fantasy Football today. Denver is at Baltimore. Spooky name of the game, Patrick Sertan to die.

That's my worst one. That one's terrible. I couldn't think. I looked at the rosters. I looked at the rosters for both teams. I just had nothing. Um, start of the game. No, no nicks. You know what? I have other booze coming up. I don't like, you know, I have like Boa Tunga by Lola. I don't want to keep doing boo, but boo nicks is better than Patrick's certain to die. When does the more Jackson? That's so terrible. When does Lamar Jackson throw a lot of passes? 34 or more pass attempts in four games.

Three of them were losses and the other one was a 41-38 win at Cincinnati. 26 or fewer pass attempts in four wins by seven, 10, 25 and three points. So I don't know if it's gonna be just that simple. But so far when they've lost and or been in a shootout, he's throwing the ball a lot. That's one of your stats of the game. So we've already talked about Zay Flanagan is quite a bit.

The spread makes it seem as if it's going to be a Derek Henry game. Oh, God, I have so much of that mustache in my mouth. It's a horrible mistake. All right, so anyway, the spread is nine points. Raven's at home, nine point favorites here. Who are the great starts in this game? Great starts Lamar Jackson, Derek Henry. Next game.

I'm still starting Zay with confidence. Right. Okay. Yeah. So let's get into that a little bit. Get a little staty, advanced staty here on the wide receivers who have faced and failed against Patrick Sertan. Garrett Wilson, DK Metcalf, George Pickens, Mike Evans. They were terrible. They had Metcalf played in the slot only about 12% of the snaps. The others were right around 30%. Zay Flowers is 40% of the snaps in the slot right around there.

And I don't know how that's going to be impacted, by the way, with Deontay Johnson if he's playing. So I guess that's a better outlook. But Surtan will, I I would say from what I've watched about half the time, he'll probably follow those other guys, Pickens and Metcalfe, Wilson and Evans into the slot. So the guys who have had success against Denver scored 13 or more PPR fantasy points. Jalen Coker, 73% slot rate.

Cedric Wilson, 52%. Chris Godwin 64%. Tyler Lockett, Xavier Leagate, Jacoby Myers, Lockett 29%, Leagate 28%, 29%, Myers only 11%. But I think the guys who've had the highest slot rates have had the most points. Jamie? We generally see these corners that are so good, like on an island by themselves, have a lot more success against the big wide receivers. Like they like with Latimore with Mike Evans, we've seen DK Metcalf struggle with the, with the corners a lot and this, the smaller shiftier guys, it's harder for those guys to get locked down. Every cornerback will tell you they would rather play a bigger receiver than a

smaller shifty guy just because of what those guys do. Look, this is not, it's not with any of these situations and we've had these conversations about every guy you listed at him. You know, I think I tend to lean more towards Sertan and I think he probably tends to lean more towards the receiver. It's just there's a track record here of what and it's not just Sertan, it's this defense. You know, so it's not just, youan, it's this defense. So it's not just, we shouldn't just completely say it's 1v1. They do a good job to take away a team's number one receiver. It's the scheme that they do also. And let's give Riley Moss some credit too.

He's having a good season. So I think just in terms of when you're looking at risk reward, it's very difficult to bench Zay Flowers because it could just be one play. Because they don't throw the ball that much on a week-to-week basis. But when you have a nine-point favorite with a running game like that with an offense in Denver that I think has played over its head. You know Heath I think sort of alluded to this before you know Bo Nix what he was able to accomplish last week versus what he's gonna have to deal with this week.

And I know the defense for Baltimore is not good and it's beat up on all those things. They're going cross country having to probably chase points. It could be ugly. Isn't that good for Bo Nix though? But that's not his game though. I mean, it certainly could be, you know, he got the two touchdown passes against the chargers. That was great. And it was, you know, a lot of it was late.

So it's not necessarily a starter set. But next conversation, it's will Baltimore have to do a lot in this game. And if you're, if you're Baltimore, like, you know where the ball's going first. It's Derek Henry. Does Lamar Jackson have to force the situation against Sir Tan and he might, cause he not afraid he's he's an MVP candidate but now you have another player on the field that they may want to showcase a little bit show off the new toy as we talked about all time whenever they get a trade so there's just a lot of things working I think in the negative more so than the positive for Dave Flowers and it's not like every game has been

perfect for him you mentioned it four games with 15 plus PBR points they played eight games yeah yeah there's how he's had those games where Jackson's barely thrown the ball, which is what your concern is here, obviously, with the nine point spread. I was also thinking along the same lines as you, Heath. Dave Flowers is not the typical, I'm going to put my number one cornerback on this guy and have him follow him on the field.

He's just different than Mike Evans, Garrett Wilson, George Pickens, DK Metcalf is a completely different player, which is what I tried to highlight yesterday on the show, just his profile and what he's doing. But okay, and then obviously we're not gonna- And I'll just give you by comparison granted, it's a lot of injuries at the receiver spot and a lot of bi-weeks.

When I was doing this with Metcalf and Wilson and Pickens, they were barely top 30 receivers. Like I still have, say Flowers 24th. Okay. Fair enough. Well, that's good perspective here. Obviously we're not gonna start Deontay Johnson or Rashad Bateman. So what about the Baltimore tight ends?

Heath, start Mark Andrews. I think you're probably starting Mark Andrews unless you were able to pick up Kate Otten. He's a top 12 tight end for me. I don't, I don't really feel like he's back. I do think he's still a touchdown dependent tight end. But if you're going to be a touchdown dependent tight end, it's good to play on maybe the

best offense in football. And we've got how about I'm looking for chat questions here. How about David Njoku against the Chargers or Mark Andrews? The Joker. The Joker. Okay. And on the other side of the ball. All right. So why should I not start Bo Nix coming off his best game?

In fact, he's got three really good games, 24.7 or more in three of his last four games in six point per passing touchdown leagues. And now he's facing a team that gives up the third most fantasy points to quarterbacks. Five of the last six quarterbacks to face the Ravens have scored 24 or more fantasy points. Um, how am I sitting?

Bonix at this point, the great bonix Heath. Yeah, I think because of the way that he is successful and the fact that like one of the things that I mentioned about him last week that I liked so much is he's tied for fourth amongst quarterbacks and red zone rush attempts, and he has fighting for rushing touchdowns now. And it's, I'm not super excited about him running or getting to the red zone all that often in this game. So if I, there's, there's certain quarterbacks that you would feel a lot better if you said you're going to have to throw it 40 times because they're

playing from behind and Bo Nix is not one of those quarterbacks. He's still like he's still ranked higher than we would have ever thought coming into the season. I think I've got him at QB 16 this week and I'm kind of tempted to move him a couple of spots higher but he's not quite a top 12 guy. Okay I'm starting him well actually to be honest with you, the waivers ran. I don't know if I got him, but I plan to start him over to a agreed. Yep. And I see back to back here. I'm going to, I would plan to start him over Caleb Williams in a league. I would. I've got Caleb one spot higher. Yeah. All right. So that's Bo Nix low end starter or high end backup. We could call him this week. Javante Williams, we're gonna try to avoid. Cortland Sutton or Javante Williams in a half PPR league?

Sutton. All right, Sutton is a top 30 wide receiver. Jamie is the highest on him at 21. Heath has him 27, I believe. And we're not gonna trust Adam Troutman just yet. Okay, that is it for Baltimore. And oh, I'm sorry, what about the DSTs? You like a DST in this game?

No, not really. I think the Ravens might be low in top 12. Wouldn't be surprised if Bo Nix throws a couple of interceptions. All right, tough guy. What's your spooky team name for Broncos Ravens? Did you get one? I said Bo Nix as soon as we started immediately.

Like, probably tough guy. LeBar. One of the people on this show, I'm not going to say who rhymes with Hafer Lamar Axeman. And then he wrote, that's terrible. So he knew, he knew right away. It was a loss. Indianapolis is at Minnesota. Spooky name of the game. Garrett Brad burial ground. Wow. Awful. I hope you didn't spend very much time on this. You could tell I did not spend that much time on it, but go ahead. You can think of one good, but it can't be. You can't do boo.

Can't do boo anymore. No, you can't use boo again. OK, got it. Easiest one. Stat of the game. About son of Sam Dornald. Excellent. Excellent way to go.

Stat of the game number one. There's a massacre. Oh, that's very good. Yeah, but he way to go. Stat of the game number one. And there's a massacre. Oh, that's very good, yeah, but he's not playing. But he's also hurt, so it's a massacre. There you go. And speaking of which, that brings us to the stat of the game number one, right? Just say that Stamford Arnold struggles under pressure,

lost his left tackle for the season, they traded for Cam Robinson. The Colts are 24th in pressure rate, according to True Media, but in weeks one and eight with DeForest Buckner, they are fourth in pressure rate according to true media. But in weeks one and eight with DeForest Buckner, they are fourth in pressure rate. Now that's gotta be a little bit of a coincidence. They have played Houston in both of those games

and the Texans offensive line is bad. But that is just something to watch here. Someone did ask in our previous game, Bo Nix or Sam Darnold? How do you feel about that? Bo Nix or Sam Darnold? Darnold. Heath? Darnold? How do you feel about that? Bo Nix or Sam Darnold? Darnold. Heath?

Darnold. Darnold. Darnold or Mahomes? Darnold. Darnold. Bo Nix or Mahomes? Nix. Mahomes. No, I'm sorry, Nix. I think Nix 13 and Mahomes 14. And the other stat of the game here is that the Vikings are just a great team for fantasy football.

You get Jefferson's production, you get Aaron Jones's production, Darnold's been a pleasant surprise, and on the other end they see the most pass attempts per game in the NFL, the fifth most running back targets, the second most wide receiver targets in the NFL. So Jamie, what does that mean for the Indianapolis Colts offensively? I mean, at this point, you're starting both receivers in some capacity. You're obviously starting Jonathan Taylor and Joe Flacco is in the streaming discussion. You know, he's right in the same range as Bo Nicks and Patrick Mahomes. And you know, for me, Derek Carr, I know Heath is higher on Carr, but you know, those, those types of quarterbacks look, Flacco's appeared in

three games. Um, whenacco's appeared in three games, one he came in the first quarter, but in two of those three he scored 19 or more fantasy points. This is a great matchup. The Colts did us a favor. Richardson would have been a tough trust and we would have said avoid the receivers probably even in a good matchup. Now there must start guys, you know, and clearly Downs has been better than Pittman, but given the matchup, like it's to me, it's exciting to start Michael Pittman, which I haven't said very much this year. So who are some players that you would start Michael Pittman over?

Say Flowers. Yeah, let me go, how about some running backs? Would you start Michael Pittman or Jonathan Taylor PPR? I stick with Taylor. Taylor. Sometimes I say obvious ones and then I work my way down. Michael Pittman or Tony Pollard? Pollard.

Michael Pittman or J.K. Dobbins? Pittman. A full PPR, I'd go Pittman, everything else Dobbins. Chuba Hubbard? Hubbard if no Brooks. Pittman if Brooks. Okay Hubbard with a good matchup against the Saints. And Josh Downs everything we said about Michael Pittman it's even better for Josh Downs we like him better. So in the three games for both of them Downs was 15 and a half PPR points or more. Pittman was 12 and a half PPR points or more. And Downs with Joe Flacco has had a 27.6% target share.

Pittman's had an 18% target share. So far that's really been his guy, Josh Downs. Jonathan Taylor, just real quick here, I don't wanna get too sidetracked here. Do you like this for Taylor Flacco over Richardson? Is it better, is it a push? What do you think, is it worse? I think it's better because there'll be some opportunities

in the passing game. Remember, they didn't play together. Did they have one game? They had one game together and he had 21 carries for 88 yards and a touchdown, three catches. Oh, that was the game he got hurt. Three catches for 20 yards against Pittsburgh. That was the game that Richardson got hurt, yeah.

I just think the offense is gonna move.. Like they're going to be more scoring opportunities. And you're not worried about the matchup here with Taylor? No, it's got to be so overwhelming to sit a player like to like he's not ranked in the top five, but he certainly had muster guy. Okay. And then sit the tight ends for the Colts. Sam Darnold, we've got a lot of Sam Darnold questions, I think. So let me see if I can find some of them. But, uh, Darnold or Dak? Darnold. That was close. Darnold. Flacco or Tua? Flacco.

Flacco. And Brian Thomas Jr. or Colts wide receivers, PPR? Thomas if he's healthy. Yep. Pittman or Chase Brown? Brown. Brown. Flacco or Caleb Williams? Flacco.

Caleb for me. Okay. Start Aaron Jones. He's like 15th-ish in the rankings. Look honestly running back is just really good this year. Yep. It's just really good. Guy being 15th ish in the rankings. Look, honestly, running back is just really good this year. Yep. It's just really good. Guy being 15th is not an indictment on him.

It's just it's tough, tough to crack the top 12 and then start Jefferson. Any interest in Naylor or Addison? No, definitely not Naylor. Yeah. I mean, if there was a it could be a squeaky wheel game for Addison, this would be it. I think he and his family are unhappy with his targets. And Naylor actually has more targets in Addison over the last two games. Um, but we'll sit them and then TJ Hawkinson is not a top 12 guy.

He is for Dave and full PPR. I think he's 10th. The Colts do allow the fourth most fantasy points to tight ends. Tight ends caught a touchdown and four of the last six games, but this is one where you probably wanna wait and see if you can. 100, oh sorry. We said it this week, Heath reiterated it today.

Like if your tight end has been of the streaming variety that has not hit and Hawkinson's been on your IR, you're dropping that guy, you're playing Hawkinson. If you picked up Kate Otton or Njoku who was cut or Ingram at one point who was cut, Ferguson, you can make that call if you want to. I'd start Ferguson. Um, craft, you know, with or without Jordan love is certainly, you know, a different story, but for the most part, I think, you know,

Hawkinson give him a week, see what happens and then make your decision. Unfortunately, you might have to give him a little bit more than a week cause I could see him playing, you know, 50% of the snaps or something. I don't know, but we'll see. We'll see what happens. Let's let's give yeah Let's give him a week and reassess on TJ Hawkinson But Hawkinson or Hunter Henry against the Titans If Drake may plays it's Henry if Drake mays out it's Hawkinson Comet or Hawkinson a question from Ryan Comet Hawkinson for me. All right, and then Josh Downs or Zay Flowers?

Josh Downs, okay. I didn't say, someone's telling me they said no snap count for Hawkinson. I didn't see that, but okay. Sometimes they say that and it's not necessarily gonna factor in, but all right, that's good. If that's true, that's good. Chargers are at Cleveland.

Spooky name of the game. Cedric Killman. That's not bad, right? I don't know that I can do better than that one, Adam. Okay, good, good. That was really good. Thank you. Very much appreciate that.

Something to watch in this game. The Browns average the eighth most plays per game, offensively. The Chargers see the fourth fewest plays per game defensively, something's gotta give. Who do we love, who's an easy start? Easy start in this game, Jamie, Chargers and Browns. Easy start, wow, N'Joko.

Yep. That's it, huh? Okay, this is an interesting game. There's a lot of fringy guys here, a lot of, you know guys here, a lot of, you know, gonna be a lot of questions, I think, starter sit wise. Who's the next best guy?

Is it just a flex? Dobbins. Yep. Okay. So Dobbins, five straight games averaging 3.8 yards per carry or worse. In fact, he's averaging 3.2 yards per carry in his last five games. Jeremiah Utsukaramoa, last year,

when he wasn't on the field, the Browns were like 7 tenths of a yard per carry worse against running backs. This year it's only been nine carries, but they're giving up 5.2 yards per carry with him off the field, so we'll see. And they haven't been that, honestly the Browns have not been that good of a defense. They just haven't been.

Their run defense has. Has it been? They do they give up the fifth fewest fantasy points to running backs. They give up touchdowns. They give up touchdowns. Yeah. But also 4.3 yards per carry. And that's what swings it for Dobbins. You look at the way he's played. If he scores, he's going to give you a good fantasy day. If he doesn't, you're in trouble. Just how confident are you in Lad McConkey? He's a number three receiver.

I've got him as a borderline number two. Like he's just not getting more than six targets per game, which is hard to say in this offense against this defense is safe. That being said, they're throwing more. You pointed that out on Tuesday with like 35 ish pass attempts in their last three games on average. On average. So they are giving more chances for their receiving core.

But I mean you see the over under 43 points. This feels like it's going to be a low scoring game with these two defenses play. And James Winston's been, you know, he was good coming in late against Cincinnati, although granted against like prevent defense. He obviously was very good last week. And so is Tillman has been good two weeks in a row. Heath, what are your thoughts on the Browns passing game?

I would view Jamis in that same Bo Nix range. I think I have him one spot behind Bo Nix. Tillman is one more week as a number three wide receiver. If he has the same, if he has a big volume, big production, he may move into that top 24 conversation from do it one more time is the number one wide receiver in fantasy since Amari Cooper was traded. I like Elijah Moore as a PPR flex and I wouldn't completely give up on Jerry Judy yet. TILMAN IS ROASTERed in 66% of leagues.

All right. So Tillman or Flowers? I think I asked you that earlier. Flowers. Flowers. Tillman or Hopkins or Chiefs wide receiver? Tillman. Tillman.

Tillman or Rashad White? PPR. Tillman. Yeah. Okay. Tell me. Yeah. Okay, Killman, I guess I should be calling him. And then- I feel like this could be like, you know, a 12, 13 point game for one of the Browns receivers. Just one.

So- It's hard to say both in this matchup. It's tough matchup. You know, Chargers have been really good. They allow the fewest fantasy points to wide receivers. They've done a great job against Devante Adams, George Pickens, Marvin Harrison Jr. All of them scored 11 PPR fantasy points or fewer. So it's a tough matchup.

I think play volume and target volume, like I said earlier, only one wide receivers had more than seven targets against the Chargers. It was Chris Olave and he had a hundred yard game. So if the Browns can run a lot of plays and throw a lot of passes, I think they'd be okay. I don't know. I'm still not sure if we know that the Chargers have a really good defense or not.

It's been good, but is it just that they run the ball and keep the ball out of the other team's hands? And then what about Nick Chubb? Like what is the difference between Nick Chubb and J.K. Dobbins? I think they're so different in the rankings, but I don't really see that much of a difference. They're both going to be touchdown dependent. They're both going to have, you know, a lot of volume potentially.

I mean, one guy, which is the shocking thing to say, given their careers, but one guy's healthy, one guy is still, I think, working his way back. And so just given how the season has unfolded for both of them, I would start Dobbins over Chubb, but you're not wrong And I think like Dobbins had seven targets last week and has at least three catches in four of his last five games That's a great point. He is their third down back and he does he is more involved in the passing game for sure Um, I think anyone any interest in Will Disley assuming he plays Good 18 targets in his last two games. Yeah.

It's just hard with coming off the week that we just had of tight ends and you know, getting a guy like Hawkinson back. And then I think this leaves definitely in the conversation now of streaming options based on the targets. But is and this is clearly however you feel, I'm not telling you one is going to be better than the other. But like Dalton Schultz's opportunity tonight, with all the receivers out versus his Dissley,

if Metcalfe doesn't play and fans match up against the Rams and how good that is. So that's where he is for me, but tight end premium, he should be rostered and potentially started. And, you know, hopefully the targets continue to be there. Todd wants to know, which DST would you start over the Chargers?

I would start the Saints. I would start the Commanders. And I would start- Jerk. I mean, Taylor Jones at home. I mean, down Jones home. I know, I'm just kidding. I think that's it. Yeah, you guys have the chargers, DST very high.

Nick Chubber. I'd start the bills. Nick Chubber, Sam Laporta. Laporta. Chubb. I can't tell which way the mustache is supposed to. I'd say bad and Williams is up. And then, all right, Tillman or JSN.

Let's look at her chat questions here. JSN. JSN if Metcalf is out, Tillman if Metcalf is in. You agree with that Heath or it's JSN no matter what? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Tillman or Devante Adams? Adams. It better be Adams. I mean, it better be Adams. Herbert or Flacco? Flacco. Yep.

One more. Tillman or Shakir? Shakir. Especially if Cooper doesn't play. Tillman if Cooper plays Shakir, if not. Let's go to Miami at Buffalo. Spooky name of the game. Dalton Killcade or Amari Booper. You just used Kill the game before. After selling me, I could only use Boo once. Okay, fine. Amari Booper or Boo-a-tug-a-vai-loa.

Boo-a-tug-a-vai-loa is pretty good, I think. Trick or treat for Boa. A trait. A trick. A trick. Devon H.A. N. Masker. Yeah, I thought about that. When he used to be H.A. N.

We were, yeah, we would've been able to do something like that, yeah. Okay, so Tua is a sit. He's a trick this week. He has scored more than seven. There's gotta be something with Tyreek Hill you can do. Like what? Hill?

I don't know. I don't think so. Tua has scored more than 17.2. There's one in the chat that Tyreek Haunted House on the Hill. Oh, that's good. Tyreek Hills have eyes. That's good too. There you go. I think Bua Tungawello is clearly the winner here though. No.

He hasn't been good against Buffalo. That's the bottom line. But neither is Jalen Waddle really. And neither has Tyree Kill. Like he's been, he's had two big games and had three bad games against Buffalo with Tua. So I think everyone's going to start him, but just be aware, not great history there.

Devon Achan, layup. Oh, this is a tailor-made matchup for him. The Bills give up the most receiving yards to running backs. He had seven catches against them earlier this year. So. There are three auto starts at running back that you shouldn't even blink at. And he's the third.

And the other two are Henry? Saquon and Camara, matchup wise, just matchups. Okay, yeah, Henry doesn't even have a good matchup. No, but he obviously, I'm not saying you're not starting those guys, but that you that you would that there are other guys are not starting but like those three are just matchup plus strong games.

Would you start Jalen Waddle or Cedric Tillman? Waddle. Heath, what'd you say? Waddle. Okay. So Waddle in his history with Tyree Kill and Tua on the field, he's got 200 yard games against Buffalo, but he also has two terrible games. So it's not that bad.

He's scored one time in those four games, but not a lot of catches, no more than four catches in any of those four games with Tyree Kill and Tua against the Bills. Bills giving up the six fewest fantasy points to wide receivers and they do not give up big plays. They are always one of the best in that category. John Smith or Will Disley if you were desperate.

Disley. All right, any hesitation on Josh Allen? Nope. No. Would you start Jaden Daniel hesitation on Josh Allen? Nope, no. Would you start Jaden Daniels or Josh Allen? Allen. I think I have Allen one spot higher. Okay, Dolphins do allow the fewest fantasy points to quarterbacks, but that will be put to the test.

James Cook, easy one, lay up. Yep, start him. And all right, so let's talk about the Bills wide receivers and how you see them against the Dolphins who give up the third talk about the Bills wide receivers and how you see them against the Dolphins who give up the third fewest fantasy points to wide receivers, but have they done well against any good wide receivers? I would argue not really.

Maybe Christian Kirk in week one, one catch for 30 yards, but they have not faced the toughest of competition here. So Heath, give me the rundown on the Bills receivers. None of them are must starts. I rank it right now. Cooper Coleman Shakir, but they're all number threes and hopefully you don't have all three of them. So you have to make that choice.

Um, I would say it's kind of like what Jamie was saying about the Browns. One of these guys is probably gonna score 13 fantasy points. I, I don't know which. I do think as a rule, I generally like betting on the early pick rookie whose role seems to be growing. And so I wouldn't be surprised if Coleman just emerges. And Jamie, your thoughts on these guys? Oh, where'd Jamie go? Disappeared. Oh, he disappeared. And he's back. Look, both Shakir and Coleman, since Cooper has arrived, have each had 14 plus targets total

in the last two games. Uh, you're seeing, uh, a concerted effort to get Coleman going and that's fun. And he's starting to produce and hopefully it's one of those situations where second half of the season, like becomes a must start fantasy option. And then for Shakir, you know, I, I know he I know Heath made the joke yesterday. He catches every pass he's ever been thrown in the NFL. And it's a pretty reliable thing. So I just trust those two guys right now more so than I do Amari Cooper.

But I agree with Heath, they're all number three receivers. Shakir scored double digit PPR fantasy points in all six of his games with a normal snap share. And that's with only one game with more than seven targets. And he's not, he has not yet to play 70% of the snaps in a game. He's really doing some phenomenal things there. How do we feel about Dalton Kincaid?

Dalton Kincaid or Hunter Henry? Kincaid. Kincaid easily if it's Jacobi Brissette, it's a tougher call if it's Drake May, but I would still leaning Kinkade. Okay Dalton Kinkade or Colkommet. Kinkade. Kinkade.

How about Sam Laporta against the Packers or Kinkade against the Dolphins? Laporta and Laporta very easily if Evan Williams is out. Let's read some chat questions. Shakir or Leagate? Shakir. Shakir. Oh, I didn't talk about Mostert, I'm sorry. Mostert, JSN or Bucky Irving?

JSN if Metcalf is out. Mostert if Metcalf is in. I'll go Bucky over Mostert. Hats half PPR by the way. Kinkade or Otten, that's an easy one. Oh, this is a great one. Rescreen Most dirt. Most hurt.

It does say most hurt, but I think you should just keep it as Rescreen Most dirt. Tua or Gino Smith? Gino. Gino. Well, it's not easy if Metcalf's not there. We saw what Gino looked like last week, but yes, I would still go Gino. And Waddle or Shakir? Right now I have Waddle or Ranked Tire, but I don't love it.

Waddle. Waddle or Dell? Dell. Okay, Waddle. Heath, where do you have Waddle? Oh, Tyree Kill. That's a good one. 26. Tyree Kill is good.

All right, let's go to our next game. It is Las Vegas at Cincinnati. Spooky name of the game. Joe Buro. Are you see you just found a name that you could put boo in the middle of on every team and that was your whole your whole stick. This is my own. This is only second one second game I did a boo, right? You had two last game. Okay, but that was only one game. Oh I got something really scary

What Gardner Mentsch you? Yeah, Gardner Mentsch you scored 19 points last week. Don't hate on guard. I got a start in a week in a league where super flex league where my three quarter, my four quarterbacks, you want to talk about just the poor timing and bi-week situation. Four quarterbacks, Brock Purdy, Anthony Richardson, Russell Wilson, and Andy Dalton. Those are my four quarterbacks. Oh God. I would just start Wilson and hope he figures out a way to get traded or something like that in the middle of the week.

I'm starting Mitchu. Yeah. No, the Bengals give up the fifth most fantasy points to the quarterbacks, but we're not exactly excited about. Could have gone just Kobe Michael Myers. Oh yeah, easy. Or just Michael Meyer, Michael Meyer. Yeah, oh God, that is so much better than Buro. And I love Hollow, I love that movie too.

And since you didn't use Son of Sam yet, you could have done Alexander Mattis son of Sam. That's a little wordy, but it's not, it's Joe Buro on its own is not bad. It's all the booze though, like that I've used all two of three of them. Anyway, how do we feel about Alexander Mattis son of Sam? Number two running back.

Strong flex. I would have said strong number two running back except for what Antonio Pierce said the other day, which just, ugh. Right. So what did he say? He said they're sticking with Madison as the number one guy, right? But they're going to give Pierce more, going to give White more work. Right.

Yeah. Madison is coming off a game with 14 carries for 15 yards. Granted, it was against the Chiefs, but he does have 17 or more touches in four straight games is a much better matchup and before the Chiefs game he was 10.1 17.5 15.3 PPR fantasy points and even last week 9.4 because he had five catches. The nice thing is if white gets more work I don't think it's going to be in the red zone or in the passing game because he wasn't getting those touches when he was the starter. Yeah I don't I don't think this is a white is better than Madison. No, no stretch.

But this is like I'm with you. When I started the week, I was like, Oh, great opportunity for Madison borderline top 20 running back. Love the setup for him. Couldn't be better. And then I saw what Pearson I was like, Oh, you know, it's like just it just killed the whole thing. So most sort of Madison, Madison. He's he's just killed the whole thing. So. Most, most Sturder Madison. Madison.

He's, he's, he's just outside the top 24 for me, but it's, it, it like dropped him down about four or five spots from where I was originally thinking. Like I was excited about Madison this week. Now I'm not as much. All right. Jacoby Myers. I'm excited about Jacoby Myers.

It's, you know, we've talked about a lot of wide receivers today and this is one guy that I'm going to be starting. Like I'd start him over, over Jay over Jaylin Waddle. Would you guys start Myers over Waddle? Yes. I start Myers over as A-Flash. And I'm excited about Brock Bowers. He's top two in both formats. All right, Joe Burrow. Jamie, I know you like him at home. He's been a little disappointing. Three straight

games with fewer than 20 fantasy points at the Giants at Cleveland and Philadelphia. Is he an automatic start in both scenarios with or without T. Higgins? It's so funny because, you know, just thinking about it, like we give Joe Burrow a pass when he loses T. Higgins and we're crapping all over Baker Mayfield who's outperforming him and at least in one game without his top receivers top receivers so probably something to revisit but I'm hoping that Higgins plays he you know you said it he didn't practice with the team he did practice off to the side and the the stories that I read were you know trending in the

right direction so hopefully we'll get out there so Higgins starts yes he's not Higgins plays he's not a start Higgins doesn't yes, he's not Higgins plays, he's not a start. Higgins doesn't play, then you know, you might have some tough calls to make between somebody like Sam Darnold or Stafford? Who? Stafford? Stafford. It's a good one.

You know, given his matchup and his receivers, you know, maybe Kirk Cousins, you know, just given his matchup against Dallas. Dak Prescott given a matchup against Atlanta. So there's ways to look at it. Like I have Joe Burrow in about five leagues. I'm not looking to replace him, you know, and carry a second quarterback on half. Honestly, like the Raiders, they're not that bad against quarterbacks. They've struggled against some mobile quarterbacks.

They gave up three rushing touchdowns combined of Fields and Bo Nicks. But like Andy Dalton really is the only quarterback that's had a big game passing the ball against them. Not that they faced a murderer's row, but they held Lamar Jackson at 17 points. Matt Patrick Holmes last week scored 21. So yeah, I don't know. Heath, you haven't third or did you change that? I haven't third, yeah.

You're very confident, bro. Is that with Higgins, you're thinking? No, we're not projecting Higgins to play. I don't think the Ra? I have a third, yeah. You're very confident, bro. Is that with Higgins, you're thinking? No. We're not projecting Higgins to play. I don't think the Raiders defense is any good. Yeah, it might be one where they're not as good as what they are on paper.

One thing they do is they do limit the big plays. They keep everything in front of them. They've given up the second fewest completions in the NFL of 20 or more area yards. All right, start, we'll get to Chase Brown in a moment. He's the start of the or more area yards. All right, start. We'll get to chase Brown in a moment. He's the start of the week. Start tomorrow.

Chase, if T Higgins does play, where would you rank? And where do you think you'll rank T Higgins? Start. Must start. Okay. And then, then chase Brown is the start of the week for Jamie Heath. You want to give your thoughts on chase Brown? I think he's a number two running back.

Probably scores a touchdown, not going to do a whole lot in the passing game most likely. Would you start chase Brown over Aaron Jones in a tough matchup? I would not. Would you start him over? Aaron Jones is not have a tough matchup, I'm sorry. No, I didn't say. I did it again.

Josh Jacobs in a tough matchup. Keep putting Aaron Jones on the Packers. I would not. No, but didn't say I did it again. Josh Jacobs in a tough match. I keep putting Aaron Jones on the Packers I would not know but they're very close for me Would you start? Chase Brown or I'll give you a wide receiver here Chase Brown or Jalen wattle Brown Brown we had a question in the chat. I saw chase Brown or Kareem hunt. I would start chase Brown. Brown. We had a question in the chat. I saw chase Brown or Kareem Hunt. I would start chase Brown. I have him one spot ahead of hunt. I agree. Okay. Perfect. Start chase

Brown and Zach Moss do not start. And okay. Mike Kosicki, if he Higgins plays, I'm assuming we're going to be Mike a city, but if he doesn't play Jamie, you were pretty high on him on the waiver wire show a couple of days ago. What are we thinking about Mike Gassicki? Three game sample size, two games where he's been, you know, 12.3 PPR points or more should have been 14 PPR points or more, but he had a fumble last week against the Eagles. So the targets have been there. The production has been there and the matchup I think is fairly safe.

So, uh, T Higgins out Gassickian. Gassickian. So how about again, like Hunter Henry or Gasecki? I mean, that was our waiver wire discussion. So yes, I would take Gasecki over Henry if no Higgins. Okay, how about Evan Ingram or Gasecki? No, I would start Ingram. And part of that is like, you don't want to carry those two tight ends. I think it's more roster construction. Okay, fair. If you were willing to carry two tight ends. You know, I think it's more roster construction. Okay, fair. If you were willing to carry two tight ends, Sam Laporta against the Packers

or Gasicki against the Raiders? Again, it comes down to Packers injuries. So if their safety, Evan Williams is out, it would be Laporta for me. But I think they'll be somewhat similar. Yeah. And this, every Gasicki question where is assuming Higgins is out

because if Higgins is in the, it's the answer is the other guy. Correct. I would not even consider it. Chase Brown or David Montgomery from the chat. I believe they are back to back for me with Montgomery once bought in. Elijah Moore or T Higgins? That's

Yeah, no. Okay. Not even close. Definitely. All right, next game. New England and Tennessee. Spooky name of the game. Will and Testament Levis. Zombie hunter Henry. Yeah, it's better. But there's some humor to Will and Testament Levis, I would hope. I hope people got a little chuckle out of that. Updated stat of the game,

the Patriots have allowed 80 rushing yards or a touchdown to 12 running backs in eight games. If Tajay Spears plays, do you guys have any hesitation with Tony Pollard? No, not against this matchup. All right, new stat of the game, Ramandre Stevenson. Let's look at his game scripts, because he was annoying last week.

I definitely sat him, and he definitely scored two touchdowns. His four good games were two wins, an overtime loss, and a five point loss. His three bad games were a 21 point loss, a 17 point loss, and a 16 point loss. They are three and a half point underdogs, but I don't think they're gonna lose by double digits here.

So how do we feel about Ramon Tre Stevenson, Jamie? I think he's a low end number two running back slash flex. If he finds the end zone, I think he'll be happy with his production. If he doesn't, you'll probably be disappointed. It's just tough to trust him, especially if per sets starting because then the offense isn't going to move as well. Yeah, I think he's a slightly more flex than number two running back, but it wouldn't be surprising. Like you said, Adam, running back so good this year,

there's probably 30 guys that would normally be RB twos. Ramondre or Gervante? Ramondre. I'm gonna put Ramondre one spot ahead or just made the change. Ramondre or Dobbins? Dobbins. Dobbins. Dobbins. Dobbins.

Dobbins. All right, sit for set. Drake May plays, we can have this discussion, but he's probably, we're not expecting him at this point. He was limited in practice yesterday. He's on the, I think, like, not to say that I think he's going to play, we have no information, but he is on the right path.

To get a limited on a Wednesday and the concussion protocol has often led to playing on Sunday. Okay. So if he does play, would you start him? Would you start to Mario Douglas? I'd consider to Mario Douglas if he played. I'm not considering to Mario Douglas right now. Correct.

All right. And we're going to keep an eye on the Jerry Snead because not that he would be shadowing to Mario Douglas, but the defense has been a lot worse the last two games They've also played Buffalo in Detroit. So that's part of it as well. They're by far the toughest competition And then hunter Henry, how many spots would you move him up if Drake may were to play? Two or three Yeah, okay right now Henry is

15th for Heath 16thth for Dave, 16th for Jamie. Will Levis, we're going to sit. Mason Rudolph, we're going to sit. Tony Pollard. I think he's like a top 12ish guy. I've got him 12th. All right. Yeah. Patriots, like I said, great matchup.

Fourth most fantasy points allowed to running backs. Okay. That brings us to Calvin Ridley. And I think it kind of a big gap between you guys. Let's see. Jamie has Ridley 33rd and Heath has him 23rd. So Heath make the case for Calvin Ridley against the Patriots. He'd had a ton of targets each of the last three games. I'll probably downgrade him a little bit honestly, if we'll let us place. But he's had a ton of targets the last three games. It finally turned into a monster performance in the first game without DeAndre Hopkins.

And I'm just a little bit more prone to believe that with a player of his pedigree, also like for all the good things we're saying about running back wide receivers, awful. Here's a question about Ridley. Start one of these guys, Ridley Hopkins, Waddle Coleman. Keon Coleman. I'd about Ridley. Start one of these guys. Ridley, Hopkins, Waddle, Coleman. Keon Coleman. I'd go Ridley.

That's not my answer. I was just clarifying. Ridley for Heath. Jamie, Ridley, Hopkins, Waddle or Keon Coleman? Waddle right now, but I probably will move Ridley ahead of him when I adjust my rankings. And that's it. That's it for this game. Titans, oh, Titans or Patriots defense.

Titans if it's Jacobi, Patriots if it's Levis. Well, yeah. If it's Levis, I'm just, that's true. I'd probably, that's a good point. What if it's Jacobi and let us then it's Patriots May and Mason then it's Patriots may plays then it's Patriots I think May and Mason I might just go find somebody else yeah I would find somebody else anyway, I hope everyone had a wonderful time

sitting around and talking about football and leather helmets and have a wonderful Halloween and next week go out there. You wrote this, didn't you? No, next week go out there and vote for Eisenhower, I say. Also Heath, what are we doing for Halloween? Turn the lights off? Hey, hey, no politics.

Um, I was, I actually been trying to figure that out. Probably turning the lights off. Maybe, maybe going somewhere so that I don't have to be quite as big of a jerk, but not, not, not, not passing any candy out. You're a mean one, Mr. Grinch. Okay, that's it for Fantasy Football Today. Thanks everybody, we'll talk to you tomorrow

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