Fantasy Football Today - Trustometer, Trades, Patriots-Falcons, Fantasy Cops (11/18 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 17, 2021

We've got a long show today and stay tuned until the end for a fun round of Fantasy Cops. We'll begin the show with a format discussion. Find out why Adam is over the 3-WR, full PPR format. Then we've... got buy low (10:00) and sell high (20:30) candidates from Dave. What should you give up for Kyler Murray? Are we nervous about T.J. Hockenson's schedule (15:00)? ... News and notes (23:00), a couple of players with tough schedules (28:00) and the Trustometer for QBs (32:30), RBs (41:30), WRs and TEs. We spend time on Aaron Rodgers, Jalen Hurts, Tyler Lockett, Darrell Henderson, Mike Evans and other inconsistent players ... Previewing Patriots-Falcons (48:40), answering your questions from email (59:00) and Apple Podcast (1:02:30) and hearing from the Fantasy Cops (1:04:00) to settle league disputes! ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:21 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Well, Thanksgiving is just over a week away, and that means we'll have plenty of time to talk about side dishes and dark meat versus white meat and all that stuff, but also trade deadlines. Trade deadlines are rapidly approaching. Very upset about our 2QB league where the trade deadline already passed when I had a trade
Starting point is 00:01:45 pending. That was kind of I guess it's my fault for not checking when the trade deadline was, but that's egregious. Very early. Very early. Yeah, I have a couple leagues where I was actually thinking I wish that I had moved the trade deadline back. We should have. That
Starting point is 00:02:02 should have been something that we foresaw in August. We have an extra week of the regular season. We should move the trade deadline back a week. For it to be last week in a league, that's early even for a 17-game season.
Starting point is 00:02:17 Sorry, schedule. 16 games. 17 weeks. Maybe that one never got moved from when it was 16 games. Anyway, I have a random thought to start the show, and then we're obviously going to go into buy low, sell high, and the trust-o-meter. What, Heath? What did I do?
Starting point is 00:02:32 No, I said, oh, good. I'm looking forward to hearing your random thought. Okay, here's my random thought. How are you doing today, Dave? Dave, what's up? Hi, Dave. I'm in a nice track suit. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Yeah, looking good. All right. So my random thought is the full PPR, three wide receiver, and flex league, I am anti. I'm against it. I don't – it's not that I don't like it. It's almost all of our leagues are like that, almost all of my leagues because that's just – that's what we do here. You know, it eliminates the difficult decisions. I'm sick of talking about these players that are really frustrating
Starting point is 00:03:10 and that we want to make these cases to sit and then going, well, it's a three-receiver PPR league with a flex. You have to start them. Well, why? Why should that be? I think when you go three receivers and a flex and full PPR,
Starting point is 00:03:26 which receivers are you going to sit? So I think we should stop with that and change it to two receivers and two flexes. So now at least you have the possibility of sitting a DJ more for a running back that you might have on your bench if you're loaded at running back or something like that. I'm getting frustrated with the format because it's almost like the advice that we give on these players,
Starting point is 00:03:50 it doesn't even matter because in that format, you have to start them anyway. There's been lots of players that have moved from starts in that format to sits like LaVisca Chenault, Marvin Jonesones jarvis landry um you're talking about drops i like that is probably the most common format i assume i saw your twitter poll yeah i was surprised that many people said they had a league like that i can't imagine there's another format you could be that specific about where 36 of people would say they play in a league like that.
Starting point is 00:04:26 And I really probably should have put... So the Twitter poll... I want Dave to talk after this. The Twitter poll was, do you play in this specific fantasy format? Full PPR, one QB, two running backs, three wide receivers, tight end flex. 32% yes, 68% no. But really, some of the no's are 2QB, and that doesn't really change this either.
Starting point is 00:04:50 So maybe it's more like 35, 36% of the respondents would have said yes, because the 2QB doesn't change this discussion. But Dave, I don't know. It's like, I want to make some tough decisions. Benching Jarvis Landry, that's not a tough decision. Benching DJ Moore is a tough decision. I want to make those tough decisions, andching Jarvis Landry, that's not a tough decision. Benching DJ Moore is a tough decision. I want to make those tough decisions,
Starting point is 00:05:08 and I'd rather play with two flexes anyway. So I think we should, I don't know, I think we should get away from this format. Counterpoint. Fantasy football is supposed to be fun. Tough decisions should be left for real life, not for fantasy football. Come on.
Starting point is 00:05:25 You don't believe that. Look, you're, I think you're going to make tough decisions in fantasy, no matter what your lineup restrictions are. I think if you had better players, you might have tougher decisions. No,
Starting point is 00:05:38 you wouldn't have it in a three receiver, full PPR plus false league. You wouldn't have that many receivers where you'd have tough decisions. I was expecting a different response from Dave, so I'm going to give it for him. Next year, don't be such a wimp and weasel out of our auction league because that is half PPR, two wide receivers, and two flexes. The exact type of format you'd like to play.
Starting point is 00:06:01 That is great. Yeah. All right, I'll think about it. I'm in a 12-team keeper league where we still don't use PPR. It's been going since 1997. We start two running backs, two wide receivers, and one tight end. I am in a 14-team analyst league,
Starting point is 00:06:20 two of them, where we have to start two running backs, three wide receivers, one tight end, and three flexes. Yep. In both leagues, there are tough decisions to make. One of them, I've got to decide between, you know, which of these receivers to start between CeeDee Lamb and like really good Tyreek Hill is one of my receivers.
Starting point is 00:06:40 We have great receivers in the keeper league. And then in the expert league where there's three flexes and three wide receivers, well, Jamison Crowder is a must-start receiver for me. There are all kinds of... The decisions that you're looking to make, you want to be challenged, Adam. You want to make some interesting decisions and have to put your butt on the line with these decisions for your fantasy team. You're going to have to make decisions like that pretty much every single league that you're in yeah unless you're in some sort of like you know 16 mickey mouse league where you start one of each
Starting point is 00:07:14 and then you don't have any tough decisions to make necessarily you'll have decisions oh you will look i get it there's always always are you in the magazine league? Yeah. Well, that one's a half PPR league. It's not the same format. It's the three receiver plus flex thing, but yeah, you're right. Well, sort of right. All right, you know what? Look, I said my piece.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I just think that, I think so many times this year, and I'm not criticizing the analysis because it's true. So many times this year, we've said, well, you know, he's struggling this and that, but you're starting him anyway.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It's a three receiver. And I don't like that. I don't want to start DJ Moore anymore. We do the same thing. The reason we do that is because there's so many more wide receivers than running backs. We do the same thing with running backs
Starting point is 00:07:57 as RB2s. Not this week, because this week, running back feels okay. But a lot of weeks, the guys ranked between 19 and 24. Half of them have been awful, but they're going to get 15 touches.
Starting point is 00:08:09 You got to start two running backs. We're going to start them anyway. Or tight end. Well, he's a tight end. I know he's only had four catches in the last three weeks, but he might score a touchdown. So he's a tight end. This is different.
Starting point is 00:08:21 The same thing. This is different. I'm right. Okay, let's move on. Listen to the Fantasy Football Today DFS podcast. I don't host that one, so you don't have to listen to this nonsense. Frank Stample, Sian Ajad, Mike McClure. These are experts in the field. You're going to win some money.
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Starting point is 00:08:56 That's all this Sunday on CBS. Frank Stample, who is currently in the top 10 in the Scott Fishbowl overall leaderboard. He has built himself a juggernaut. And by the way, the number one team, FFT alum Ben Gretsch. And in the top 175, some fat vampire wearing a brown track jacket. What about me? Am I in there? Are you even playing in the
Starting point is 00:09:25 fishbowl what do you yes come on of course you're not in the top i don't think you're in the top i'm actually good i i thought this was one of my worst teams it's actually it's actually solid how many um what place are you in overall or no in your division i want to say i'm in third okay the best you can tell us pretty close to where you're at in the standings by how many points you scored because we know dave's at 175 or whatever and he we know we can figure out how many points he's scored i'll tell you how many points i've scored i don't believe i'm in the top anything i have scored 1589 points yeah you're not in the top.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Which is third most in my league. Our league is defensively oriented. You can be your third in your league and just change subjects, but it's not third overall. Frank is literally like seventh or eighth overall. Yeah, that's amazing. All right, sorry. Enough about us.
Starting point is 00:10:21 So today on the show, we're doing the Trust-O-Meter. We're going to talk about players if we trust them rest of season. And that's going to really be a trade segment, you know. But before we do that, I think, Dave, you might have some other buy lows and sell highs you want to mention that aren't going to be on this list. If you do, please fire away. I have no idea if these names are on your list or not. But two quarterbacks that I would
Starting point is 00:10:45 consider buying low on right now are Kyler Murray and Matthew Stafford, neither of whom you might be able to use in week 11, but you've got to think long-term with them. And if you're on a team that's five and five or better, but you've been streaming quarterbacks, these are two guys that you can try and grab, especially if the team that's been struggling with Kyler Murray on the bench is also five and five or four and six or three and seven. You should be able to procure him from them in exchange for a couple of players that can help their team win. Now there's two types of fantasy and we should preface the buy lows and sell highs with this. There are two types of fantasy teams right now. There are the teams that have visions on making it to the fantasy playoffs.
Starting point is 00:11:26 They're feeling good about their squad, and they might need to make one or two moves, maybe consolidate their whole roster so that they've got their lineup set ready for the big playoff push. And then there's the teams that are trying to get into the playoffs, and they'll do whatever it takes, and they're in win-right-now mode. They can't afford to have that seventh loss. Once you get to seven losses this year,
Starting point is 00:11:46 it's going to be tough to make the playoffs in your league. I think it's eight. I agree with everything Dave said, especially the part about Kyler Murray. But I think it's eight this year. I think a lot of teams are going to make it at seven and seven. You might make it at seven and seven with tiebreaker help. But if you want to be sure that you're in,
Starting point is 00:12:03 don't lose seven games. All right, so Kyler Murray was not on the trust-o-meter, but he could have been. And Stafford was only started, I don't know what to make of this. He was only started in 77% of leagues on Monday, which really shocked me. And I don't know if that was a Robert Woods reaction or what.
Starting point is 00:12:21 And then obviously he had a dud, so people were right. I wonder what's his highest start rate this season. Oh, he's had weeks where he's been in the 90s. He's got to have 90-plus weeks. Because he was drafted as a second quarterback in a lot of leagues. Mm-hmm. I mean, well, I can try to find out for you. But no, there were definitely weeks where he was almost universally started.
Starting point is 00:12:41 He was coming off a bad game. He lost Robert Woods. I don't know what the thought was there. Okay, so you guys, so Dave, you obviously have faith in Stafford. We'll get into him later. How about sell highs, or did you want to do more buy lows?
Starting point is 00:12:55 I mean, I've got three more buy lows. You can pick one if you want to talk about them, but Daryl Henderson, off the miserable couple of games that he's had, I figure the Rams have to start getting back to running the football. And he played over 70% of the snaps in week 10. So I don't think they're trying to get away from him and give more work to Sony Michelle. I think they realize that they're going to have to run the football on top of throwing it. They can't just have Stafford throw it 50 times a game.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Michael Pittman had a bad game. Anytime a player like that as a bad game. Uh, I like the idea of trying to buy low on him cheap. I imagine that it's going to eventually hurt T.Y. Hilton that he's playing with Michael Pittman because Pittman is the number one guy in Indianapolis. And T.J. Hawkinson, one target, no catches. How many more times are we going to see that from him? So if you're streaming tight ends and you don't like what you've got tight end and you want somebody who should be a good enough starter at minimum rest of season, Hawkinson is someone you can trade for cheaply right now.
Starting point is 00:13:49 I want to go back to Kyler Murray. Is this a fair trade offer to a 4-6 team who has Kyler Murray? Dak Prescott for Kyler Murray and Miles Sanders? Yes. I think you're asking for a little too much. I think it's fair. That was my computer. Daveave says a little too much i think it's fair that means it's probably you know i would not i would not take kyler murray for dac and sanders knowing that sanders could be back really soon no it's kyler and sanders for dac oh kyler and sanders for d No, I still wouldn't do that either. That's too much to give for Dak.
Starting point is 00:14:26 It's not even. But I think it's important also, and the traits are awesome and very important. You can't worry so much about getting equal value if you're four and six and you have four players who aren't going to play this week. Right. Like you have to win this week. It doesn't matter if you lose the trade, if your season's over after this week. Right. But you're trading Kyler Murray and Miles Sanders, neither of whom are guaranteed to play this week. That's the reason you're
Starting point is 00:15:01 trading them away. The four and six team has Kyler and Sanders to get Dak. Okay. So that's overpaying for Dak Prescott, but I get your point. I want to talk about two of the guys that you just said, Michael Pittman and Hawkinson, because I hate their schedules. Hawkinson, he has Cleveland this week, and they're 22nd
Starting point is 00:15:19 against tight ends. They give up a lot of touchdowns, but they don't give up a lot of yards. Hawkinson doesn't score touchdowns. Then they have Chicago. They give up a lot of touchdowns, but they don't give up a lot of yards. And Hawkinson doesn't score touchdowns. Then they have Chicago. They are fourth against tight ends. Then they have Minnesota. They're fifth. They haven't allowed a touchdown to a tight end yet.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Then they have Denver. They're third. They haven't allowed a touchdown to a tight end yet. Then they have Arizona. They're first. And they've only played one good tight end. And that's George Kittle. And he crushed them for 100 yards and a touchdown. So I think, so they have Cleveland
Starting point is 00:15:50 and then their next four opponents, Detroit's next, TJ Hawkins' next four opponents after Cleveland are top five against tight ends. And three of them have given up a combined one touchdown to tight ends. I don't necessarily care, but I did want to bring that up and see, you know,
Starting point is 00:16:08 do you care about that? Because it is obviously hard to figure out who's really good against tight ends. Arizona, perfect example. They're number one right now, and they might not even be good at all. Cause they've only played one good tight end.
Starting point is 00:16:17 It was Kittle and he crushed them. But there's that for Hawkinson and Pittman. We can do separately, but Dave, does that make you pump the brakes on calling him a by-low? He's a by-low because of what he's been doing. The schedule moving forward definitely sucks, but this is why you're not going to give up that much form.
Starting point is 00:16:38 You're not going to give up Tyler Lockett for TJ Hawkinson. You're not going to give up in a PBR league. You're not going to give up Hunter Renfro for TJ Hawockinson. You're not going to give up, in a PBR league, you're not going to give up Hunter Renfro for TJ Hockinson. Alright, so then you can't really feel that confidence in him. You're trying to get him for scraps on your bench. Alright. The one I have a question about is
Starting point is 00:16:55 Michael Pittman if T.Y. Hilton plays the rest of the games this season. Right, so... Do you really think, though, that Pittman's target volume is going to crater just because Hilton's there? No.
Starting point is 00:17:10 Eventually, Indianapolis is going to say... And there's going to be games where it won't go like the Jacksonville game, where they're going to have to throw 30-some-odd-plus times. I don't know how many times Wentz threw against Jacksonville, but I think Pittman's still going to be the number one receiver there.
Starting point is 00:17:27 I 100% think Pittman is going to be the number one receiver. It's, I think it's the difference. I'm trying to get the numbers now. I believe he's around a 26% target share in the games that Hilton has not played. Maybe 25 has played. He's got to be way lower.
Starting point is 00:17:47 I, right. And so if it's a difference between 25 and 20 i do think if he's a 20 target share in that offense then he's just a number three wide receiver and and that's what you should try and pay to get him well yeah okay but you know it's he does have a bad schedule beginning this week with Buffalo. Oh, wow. Went through 34 times. I knew he only had 180 yards, and I knew he didn't score, but 34 times, that's a lot.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Pittman is really doing a lot with his targets, though. You got to give him credit for that. Agreed. 50% share last Sunday. All right, so let me just get to the schedule here because Buffalo is number one against wide receivers. Tampa Bay, I don't really know what to make of them. They've gone five or six games in a row
Starting point is 00:18:27 without giving up more than 70 yards to a wide receiver. They've gone four or five games in a row without giving up more than 60 yards to a receiver. Mostly playing bad receivers, but also Terry McLaurin last week. Devontae Smith was in there. Darnell Mooney was in there for what that's worth. But they've been much better. And then
Starting point is 00:18:46 Houston, that's fine. A bye. But the playoffs are New England, Arizona, and Las Vegas for Pittman. I don't know how you feel about those. Now, New England, obviously we know they're very good. Arizona, they have this tendency to be great against number ones and give up points to the others.
Starting point is 00:19:02 They gave up a touchdown to Robbie Anderson last week. And Las Vegas is fifth against wide receivers. That one, I mean, I never really bought it, but it just kept happening until last week. And they always collapse second half, so it wouldn't shock me if that was easy. But anyway, does Pittman's schedule scare you? A little bit, but not enough to make me
Starting point is 00:19:21 not want to acquire him and think of him as someone who can be a number three receiver with a chance to finish the year as a number two. I just don't know how you get Michael Pittman for number three receiver value. It's, you know, he's been so good because he's coming off of a crummy game. Not really. I mean, five or 71 back in his target chair is going down. All right. The bet is that his target chair rebounds even with Hilton playing. Or Hilton gets hurt and Pittman's back up to where he was. Pittman has the most yards of any wide receiver against the Rams
Starting point is 00:19:52 this year. He has the second most yards of any wide receiver against the Ravens. And then he has the fourth most yards of any wide receiver against one other tough matchup. Was it San Francisco, I think? And the others that were ahead of him were like Devontae Adams, Cooper Cupp, and one other guy matchup. Was it San Francisco, I think? And the others that were ahead of him were like Devontae Adams, Cooper Cup, and one other guy.
Starting point is 00:20:09 So he's performed pretty well in tough matchups. So it really does matter whether you call Week 8 a game that T.Y. Hilton played or not. Because if you just look at Week 6 and 10 when Hilton didn't leave early, Pittman's got a 15% target share in those two games. But he saw like 11 targets or something in week eight. No, five,
Starting point is 00:20:30 but they didn't throw any passes. I don't remember. But he had a huge target share in week eight, so it's pretty normal. Would you rather have Pittman or Lockett? Lockett. Heath, are you there? Yeah, I thought I said Lockett. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't hear you.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Pittman or Devante Smith? Smith. I will take Pittman. Pittman, okay. So, Heath, Smith or Lockett? Lockett. You sure? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:59 Well, I mean, as sure as I am about anything over the next month. I offered Heath my Devante Smith for his Tyler Lockett. He's not going to accept it. Okay, so then why don't we talk about sell highs. Dave, who you got? Well, the first sell high seems like a pretty obvious one. It's A.J. Dillon. And it comes down to, do you need A.J. Dillon?
Starting point is 00:21:22 Are you one of those teams that's four and six and you're doing everything you can to win now? If you one of those teams and you have aj dylan uh you just got an extra booster strapped to your back and you're rocketing toward the playoffs so you don't necessarily want to give them up then unless someone's willing to give you a ton for them because there is a lot of hype out there about aj d. And so if you can cash in on that hype and get a top 12 receiver, a top five quarterback, a top four tight end, you pair Dillon with another player to improve at running back, someone that can help you the rest of the season. Maybe you turn AJ Dillon into David Montgomery.
Starting point is 00:21:59 I would make a move like that, but I don't think he's necessarily a strict sell high, get them off your team for whatever you can. It's more like if you can cash in, now's the time to take your chips to the cashier. Okay. And you want to just fire off a few more names you want to, or should we move on to a new segment?
Starting point is 00:22:18 Cause like we got plenty of names up to you. Uh, the other names that I would give you are Keenan Allen, because it's just again same thing his value is just sky high but you shouldn't just trade him away and then higby if you higby's one where you should just try and get whatever you can because you can't start him this week you'll never feel comfortable starting him again he's coming off a game where he scored a touchdown after like four straight games without a touchdown so if you can find a team that's desperate at tight end,
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Starting point is 00:23:38 But is Jeff Wilson a must-add, guys? Heath, I'll start with you. He's a want-to-add. Yeah, I didn't put a claim in for him everywhere. There were teams where my bench had players on it that I didn't want to drop for Jeff Wilson, but he was amongst the top
Starting point is 00:23:53 five running back priorities and amongst the top ten overall priorities that I had. I still and I know I'm the most skeptical on this, I still think the things that I've read that the team has said and that the beat writers have said sure sounds like it. They think
Starting point is 00:24:09 they're going to put a pin in his finger. He's going to come to practice today and he's going to play this week. Eli Mitchell. Let's take a look at the running back landscape now, resetting the waiver wire. A lot of leagues do run their waivers on Wednesday night. You've got the Eli Mitchell finger injury, but could certainly play.
Starting point is 00:24:26 You've got Damian Harris, who is still in the concussion protocol, but was listed as limited in practice on Tuesday. Thursday game at Atlanta. You got Cordaro Patterson, who was listed as limited, but it's very vague. They didn't actually practice.
Starting point is 00:24:38 You got Baltimore waving Le'Veon Bell. And you got the Deontay Foreman. Nothing's changed in that situation. But if you look at the 49ers, Patriots, Falcons, Ravens, and Tennessee Titans, pardon me, who are facing the Texans, Dave, would you re-rank the waiver wire running backs now? Give me those teams one more time. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:01 So we're talking about Deontay Foreman, Ramondre Stevenson, who's now up to, I think, 76% rostered. It was 51 yesterday. Right, and we know that Harris is practicing again. Yeah, but still in the protocol. Stevenson, Wilson, Gallman, Foreman, Latavius Murray. All these men. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:22 I think it really depends on how much you want to take a chance on a guy that's going to get you 15 touches this week if harris isn't going to play stevenson would clearly be the number one guy if mitchell wasn't going to play then with wilson would be behind stevenson unless harris plays those would be the top two on my list, no matter what. Okay. I think with, it sounds like both Harrison Mitchell will play. And if that's the case, I'd rather have Stevenson.
Starting point is 00:25:53 So I guess I would settle on Stevenson one, Wilson two Foreman who's left Foreman, Gallman and Latavious. It sounds like Latavious is coming back. I would probably, I there's a big gap between those first two. Latavius would be three, Foreman four,
Starting point is 00:26:08 Gallman five. Okay. So I found another league where the Kyler Murray manager is three and seven. Only has one running back this week. Doesn't have a tight end and is currently starting Jimmy Garoppolo.
Starting point is 00:26:22 So I have offered Kirk Cousins, Kenyon Drake, and Dan Arnold three starters for Kyler Murray and Chase Edmonds. Yeah, I love you calling Kenyon Drake a starter. You want Chase Edmonds with Kyler for that? It's a full trio.
Starting point is 00:26:37 He's a starting running back. Oh, Kenyon Drake? Oh. Yeah, look, this is what you should do. Be aggressive. I like it. This is the i like it this is the podcast league it is the podcast you don't need any more help i don't think anybody's saying yes to that trade well i mean if you don't you got to make that trade or another trade or your season's over it's possible this is how many watches do they have like the office where dwight's trying to sell his car five four three four, three, two.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Make a decision. All right, guys. I got these more notes here. Chargers defensive lineman Joey Bosa and Jerry Tillery are on the reserve COVID list. Bosa reportedly not vaccinated. So let's say he's probably not going. They're both probably not going to play. And they're two important pass rushers.
Starting point is 00:27:23 So I think that takes the shine off of the... Does it take the shine off of the Chargers DST? Because, you know, the Lions DST was so good against Mason Rudolph. They were okay, but their most talented defender is not going to play. And Tillery is a good component of that defense. It absolutely makes it easier on the Steelers.
Starting point is 00:27:44 I know, I know. But if you're if you need a DST I don't know that anyone's bad against Mason Rudolph Mason Rudolph I know all right what else we got Pittsburgh by the way planning for Mason Rudolph to start their game planning for Rudolph to start but they're leaving the light on for Ben Roethlisberger Tampa Bay cornerback Richard Sherman's gonna miss a few weeks with a calf injury. And Green Bay worked out Kerryon Johnson. Okay, we're going to get to the Trust-O-Meter in just a second.
Starting point is 00:28:11 There were two other schedules that I hate that I wanted to talk about. We already talked about Pittman and Hawkinson. I want to get your thoughts on them. Michael Carter. So it really depends on how you view Miami because they have been better lately. They started off as a terrible run defense.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Someone on Twitter pointed out that they had a linebacker that was out and now has come back and has improved their run defense. And I don't know... Which team is this? The Dolphins of Miami. Right down the road from you. But...
Starting point is 00:28:41 Not the Dolphins of Topeka. Right, exactly. So, Michael Carter has the dolphins, Texans and Eagles in his next three games, which at least two of them are great matchups. But then beginning in week 14, he has the saints and then the dolphins again in week 15. And then Jacksonville has a really good run defense.
Starting point is 00:29:01 And then Tampa Bay in week 17 in the Fantasy Championship. So that's Carter. And then we can get into DJ Moore. Heath, what do you make of Carter's schedule? Does it scare you? I mean, the only thing that scares me is that there's a quarterback change and they don't throw to him as much. Because then this schedule would matter.
Starting point is 00:29:22 As his role is currently defined, I'm not really sure how much it will matter because I think he's going to catch five passes and he's going to keep playing in garbage time. And so I'm more worried about a role change than I am a schedule problem for Michael Carter. He was just good against the Bills. Yeah, well, he was good because he scored. But that's fine.
Starting point is 00:29:44 He's getting 15 carries, then he's still going to be worth using. But I think you should probably, I think we should probably assume that Zach Wilson's going to be back there sooner rather than later. Right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Could be this week. It could be. And we don't know if Zach Wilson is going to be just banged over the head with, throw it to your running backs, throw it to your running backs. And it certainly was not his tendency when he was playing before. So you can't guarantee that it's going to suddenly change. In fact, you should probably assume that it's not going to change.
Starting point is 00:30:18 All right. How about DJ Moore? He's got Washington, which is great. And then again, I mean, it does kind of matter. It's actually, let's just focus on his playoff schedule, because that's what it is for DJ Moore. He's got Washington, which is great. And then again, I mean, it does kind of matter. It's actually, let's just focus on his playoff schedule because that's what it is for DJ Moore. It's at Buffalo in week 15, Tampa
Starting point is 00:30:31 Bay in week 16, at New Orleans in week 17. Now, Buffalo, we know, very tough. Tampa Bay, questionable. They're on a great run. Five or six weeks of being great against wide receivers. They have faced mostly very bad pass offenses and not great wide receivers.
Starting point is 00:30:48 And then New Orleans. New Orleans gives up a lot of points to wide receivers, but you know you have the Lattimore factor where they could take away one guy. So does this DJ Moore playoff schedule, Buffalo, Tampa Bay, New Orleans, does it scare you off if you were thinking about buying low on DJ Moore?
Starting point is 00:31:05 I mean, what scares me off about buying low on DJ Moore? I mean, what scares me off about buying low on DJ Moore is just BJ BJ DJ Moore's track record in the red zone, how he's just played overall. The quarterback change is another issue that it's not a guarantee that it's going to get better. It might say the same from when he was with Sam Darnold over the last few weeks. I'm I, this is somebody I might say the same from when he was with Sam Darnold over the last few weeks.
Starting point is 00:31:26 This is somebody I might hit the eject button on just in general and just try and trade him for whatever I can get. Okay, that's an interesting take because you could say... If I can find somebody
Starting point is 00:31:37 who thinks they're buying low on DJ Moore, they might actually pay up a little bit more than someone who wakes up in the morning and doesn't even think about trying to acquire DJ Moore.
Starting point is 00:31:45 DJ Moore or Michael Pittman? Pittman. Yeah, I'm going to take Pittman, but DJ Moore's really good at football. Yes, that is true. I think I'd still go Moore over Pittman. So I would be
Starting point is 00:32:01 pretty actually interested in acquiring DJ Moore if not for that playoff schedule because it does scare me, especially the Buffalo game. I mean, that could be week one. You've got a guy who's getting 30 yards week one of your playoffs. It's week 15. It scares me. And then if he sees Lattimore, I don't think he'll beat Lattimore.
Starting point is 00:32:21 But I don't know that he'd get shadowed by him. I don't know. He's not the type of receiver that Lattimore, but I don't know that he'd get shadowed by him. I don't know. He's not the type of receiver that Lattimore usually shuts down. Yeah, that's right. Right. It's true. Okay, with that said, it's time for the Trust-O-Meter. Zero to ten.
Starting point is 00:32:36 We've got a lot of names here, guys, and we also have to take a look at this Thursday night game. This is an interesting game. Obviously, we need to know. Yes, I think it is. I think it is. Because Pitts is really interesting going up against this defense. You could make the case that some wide receiver for the Falcons has
Starting point is 00:32:53 got to put up some type of numbers. I mean, right. It's like, who else is Kyle Pitts? I guess. Who else is he going to throw to, though? And then you've got the Patriots, both of these teams, but the
Starting point is 00:33:02 Patriots in particular, so bad against pass-catching running backs. That makes Mike Davis pretty interesting. You know, Mac Jones. Anyway, sorry. Get to that. Trust-o-meter. Zero to ten. How much do you trust these guys going forward? Matthew Stafford.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Seven. I think he's probably like a seven. Yeah, seven seems fine. I was thinking six. Maybe I'd go six and a half on the trustometer. Okay. Russell Wilson.
Starting point is 00:33:35 The same, seven. No, not for me. I was disturbed by his inaccuracy in his first game back, and I'm concerned that maybe his miracle healing of his finger is just that he came back a little earlier than he should have. And so this week in particular, I'm more like a four. As soon as I see him look like Russell Wilson again, I'll be with Dave as a seven. Well, when you see Russell Wilson look like Russell Wilson again, wouldn't you be at like an eight or a nine? Or a ten?
Starting point is 00:34:14 No, because I think there's concerns outside of Russell Wilson. The fact that he's throwing 26 passes a game gives him a very small margin for error. He's throwing less than he has even in the past years when we've said let Russ cook. They went the opposite direction. That's not because they're so run heavy, though. It's because they're last in time of possession,
Starting point is 00:34:34 in my opinion. Does that make me feel better? I don't know. Well, you could say offensive philosophy is one thing. If you think the time of possession thing is fluky, then you could see more passes. And it's not as if they're not run heavy. Are they run heavy?
Starting point is 00:34:54 I mean, I don't really feel like they are. I think relative to league average, they are still more run heavy than not. What are they, like 55% pass rate? I can look it up right this second. And considering their record, I think that's pretty... Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:13 On the year... 51.9. 51.9 is what you see? Is what I see. That's not situation neutral. That's just pass rate. That's just everything. If you're throwing 52% of your plays
Starting point is 00:35:27 and you're winning one out of three games, that is extremely run heavy in my opinion. I see something completely different. I see that they're 61.6 pass. Well, can't we just look at their stats page and do some math here? And the thing is, they don't run that many plays. So that's why, I guess that's why, even if they were
Starting point is 00:35:47 run heavy, they wouldn't feel run heavy because they don't run plays. They are running 55.7 plays per game. Is that what you have, Dave? I don't know if I even have plays per game. And they're throwing 28.9 passes per game. That's how I do it. All right. Pl plays per game. And they're throwing 28.9 passes per game. That's how I do it.
Starting point is 00:36:06 All right. Plays per game. This is boring. No one wants to. So boring. 55.7 is what I have. So boring. All right.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Are you including sacks in your math? No. No. You need to. No, I don't think so. I have pass run sack because some teams get sacked more than others, and sacks are not good for fantasy.
Starting point is 00:36:28 I agree. So if you add pass and sack, what do you get? Then you would have the dropback rate, which is probably around 61%. You get sass. All right, let's go to our next player here. We have done Stafford and Wilson. How about Jalen Hurts? Trust-o-meter.
Starting point is 00:36:48 Five. Seven. Dave trusts. Yeah, Dave. Wow. Very trusting today. Dave, let me borrow your credit card. I just need to check something. Zero. Just want to see if it has the same amount of numbers as mine.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Yeah, Jalen Hurts is pretty interesting. How many pass attempts does he need per game to be good? 23? How many rush attempts does he need per game to be good? Well, he's always going to get you the rushing totals. Right, so that's part of the floor for him. Can't count on him to make those deep throws to Devontae Smith every week, but I think he's starting to come back along as a passer.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Will he stay that way all year long? Look, I don't know if I can trust him to do that, but the rushing will be there. I think this offense is starting to find itself a little bit more. In the first half last week, they were balanced pass and run 50% each way, just like I said they'd be. And there will probably be games down the line where they'll have to throw a little bit more. They were in the first half, but for the game, it was like, what, 40-60, right?
Starting point is 00:37:53 They threw three passes in the second half. It was even worse than that before the game. But once you got in the, oh. I'm just saying, like, he threw 23 passes. That wasn't what we were hoping for last week. He just happened to have a 10% touchdown. No, in the second half, they didn't need to. Three passes in the second half.
Starting point is 00:38:06 I was expecting it to be a more competitive game. Their remaining schedule, if you just look at the quarterbacks in fantasy, Trevor Simeon, Daniel Jones, whoever the Jets run out there, Taylor Heineke, Daniel Jones, Taylor Heineke. I don't know if they throw 25 passes a game the rest of the way.
Starting point is 00:38:25 They are the Eagles, though. Let's not act like they're some really good team now. No, but they are a team that desires to be run heavy, and they're facing zero offenses that are good. Yeah. Zero. It's true. All right, let's go to Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 00:38:40 Zero to 10 on Aaron Rodgers. Eight. Eight. Five. Probably the same as Jalen Hurts. Why so low? I think we're using different trustometers. Yeah. It seems like we're not calibrated.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Mine is basic. To be an eight, I would have to think you're a top six quarterback. Oh, wow. But that's what a ten should be. Yeah, seriously. If you're a must- quarterback. Oh, wow. But that's what a 10 should be. Yeah, seriously. So what is... If you're a must-start
Starting point is 00:39:08 fantasy quarterback, what number do you get? What would your 12 be? A 7? 7, 8. Yeah, 7. 7. Nah, you could put some 6s in there.
Starting point is 00:39:17 In fact, full disclosure, I thought about changing my number on Hertz to 6 as soon as I said 7. I put Rodgers at five because I view him just about QB 12, and I think he'll probably be good about half the weeks and bad half the weeks. I have more faith in him. My biggest concern about Rodgers is he's got three home games in December, maybe ones in late. No, they're all in December.
Starting point is 00:39:43 And that could mess things up although he scored like 40 he scored 32 points last year in that tennessee game which was that crazy snow game but we've seen bad weather can throw people off but i just think roger i think he is what he was from weeks two to seven when he was eighth per game in four point but fifth per game in six point and i think Rodgers would have to have a different number, depending on the format. But he was basically in that stretch, almost what he was in 2020.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Not quite as good, because he's never going to do that again. But I don't know. I think he's awesome. I don't care about the game he didn't play with Devontae Adams. I don't care about week one. You don't care about last week. I do care about last week. I do. I do. But it was care about the game. He didn't play with Devante Adams. I don't care about week one. You don't care about last week. I do. I do. But
Starting point is 00:40:28 it's just a bad game, you know, and he threw for a lot of yards in that game. He just didn't throw any touchdowns. I think if you look at him this year compared to him last year, it's not that much different except the touchdown rate is back to what's normal.
Starting point is 00:40:44 But I don't think his yards are that much different than where he was last year. It's just he had a 9% touchdown rate last year. Now it's 6%. He's lost a third of his touchdowns. Aaron Rodgers last year, without a third of his touchdowns, is a borderline number one quarterback.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Has he turned into 2019 Aaron Rodgers? No. No, not at all. He's right in the middle. But in weeks two through seven, he was on pace for 4,200 yards and 40 touchdowns. And that's not nearly as good as last year, but it's still really good.
Starting point is 00:41:11 And he's done that before many times. He's been in the 39-40 touchdown range. That's per 16 games. And I don't know. He was on fire in that stretch. So I think this week will be pretty important to see what we can expect down the stretch. But I'm not looking
Starting point is 00:41:26 to upgrade if I have Rodgers. I mean, you can always look to upgrade. I don't need to. I would love, love, love. And I only have this
Starting point is 00:41:34 in one league. And I'm going to go try to do it right now to turn Aaron Rodgers into Kyler Murray. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. Let's go to
Starting point is 00:41:43 the running backs here. And we're going to have to go turbo now. Miles Sanders, 0's fine. Okay, let's go to the running backs here, and we're going to have to go turbo now. Miles Sanders, 0-10. Five. Five once he's off the IR. Yeah. Daryl Henderson. Six.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Six or seven. Josh Jacobs. Five. Six. Six or seven. Josh Jacobs. Five. Six. Okay. Michael Carter. Six. Five.
Starting point is 00:42:16 All right, so all of these guys are in the... Well, where did you put Henderson? Six. Six or seven. They're all in the low-end number two running back discussion. Even Henderson? I mean, Henderson we were talking about is much better than that. He was much better than that when we were talking about him as much better than that.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I know, but that's the thing about this. It's like, well, are we just going to react to what they've done lately? Because what are the circumstances for Henderson? Last game, they had the ball for 20 minutes, 21 minutes. It got blown out. They got blown out two games in a row. If you have faith in the Rams, then you should have more faith in Daryl Henderson.
Starting point is 00:42:49 I have him as the top 20 running back. Part of trust is trusting somebody to be there every week, too. All right. I just figured that Henderson would be ahead of, noticeably
Starting point is 00:43:04 ahead of Sanders, Jacobs, and Carter, but he's slightly ahead. He was the highest number that we gave. Slightly ahead. All right. Wide receivers. Tyler Lockett. Seven.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Yeah, I think this is a different question for rest of season versus on a week-to-week basis. I'm like a four on a week-to-week basis. I'm like a four on a week-to-week basis, but around what Dave said, a seven for the rest of the year. He'll be a top 20 wide receiver rest of the year. All right. That's Tyler Lockett. DJ Moore. Five.
Starting point is 00:43:38 Five. Devontae Smith. Six. Five. Adam Thielen. Man, I want to say eight to Adam Thielen, but he doesn't deserve it. So let's go six.
Starting point is 00:43:57 Six. Mike Evans. Ten. Ten. Kind of doing the same guy two guys in a row uh six for sure on mike evans and i like i know davante adams what is davante adams 10 okay all right so at least you can mike evans and adam phelan over the last since the start of last year have been the same guy phelan's actually been a little bit better
Starting point is 00:44:25 in PPR fantasy points per game. They are hugely touchdown dependent and they just continue to score touchdowns at a rate higher than any player ever has. And I just can't say that they are going to definitely do that over the rest of the season because nobody's done it before. Yes, they've done it for a year and a half now. But Evans
Starting point is 00:44:46 has four or fewer targets in three of his last four games. At some point, he has Antonio Brown and Gronk coming back. I'm really worried that we're going to get to Week 15 and he's going to have two catches for 11 yards and that'll be the game he doesn't score a touchdown
Starting point is 00:45:01 and go home. You're done. And you know who week 15 is? I don't. New Orleans. So I'm even more worried. And you know who week 14 is? Buffalo. So, yes, Adam Thiel and Mike Evans get the same number from me.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Okay. I got Mike Evans on a couple of teams. I haven't debated sitting him yet this year. Yeah, because you play in a bunch of three-receiver PPR leagues with a friend. No, I agree, but you know that there could be some games when Brown comes back where Evans is just
Starting point is 00:45:33 very quiet and doesn't score. Jalen Waddell. He's like a three in non-PPR and a five in PPR. Yeah, I think he's right for me in that DJ Moore, Devontae Smith and non PPR and a five and PPR. Yeah. I think he's right for me in that DJ more Devante Smith range and PPR. Okay. How about tight ends here?
Starting point is 00:45:51 Kyle pits this week. He's like a six overall. I'd say he's a seven. I'm going to give him a nine. Yeah. He just, how do you get away? Dave is not happy with this number.
Starting point is 00:46:04 It's the highest number i've given you i just yeah i know the tight end you know exactly if he played wide receiver the number would be different which tells you that maybe starting three wide receivers versus one tight end is not as bad as adam thinks it is 10 on that what's that come Come on. Dallas Goddard. If Kyle Pitts would have a lower number as a wide receiver than a tight end, then starting three wide receivers is not diluting the position too much. I don't agree with that.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Because you can still, in the format that I want, you can still start three, you can start four wide receivers. I would just like the option to start a running back or a tight end, if I so choose, over that third must, that third, you could start four wide receivers. I would just like the option to start a running back or a tight end if I so choose over that third
Starting point is 00:46:48 must, that third, you know, roster spot. You know what's funny? I flexed Dan Arnold in three different leagues this week where we start three wide receivers and flex. So yeah, we have that option now. I don't, I like your solution, Adam. I do.
Starting point is 00:47:04 I was, I thought you were going to go in a different direction with where you were going. And when you said two flexes, I thought that was cool. Yeah, thank you, Dave. Appreciate it. I'm giving you a 10. Dallas Goddard, 0-10, trust-o-meter. Once he's healthy, somewhere between 6 and 7. 4.
Starting point is 00:47:22 I love his schedule. Giants, Jets, bye, unfortunately. Washington, Giants, Washington. No bad matchups there. six and seven four i love his schedule giants jets bye unfortunately washington giants washington no bad matchups there what where would you guys guess on a per game basis dallas goddard ranks at tight end 14 probably somewhere around 10th or 12th i think it's 18th or 12th? I think it's 18th or 19th. And his fantasy points per game has... Let's not count last week because he got hurt and left the game early. His fantasy points per game without Zacherts has been the same as with Zacherts.
Starting point is 00:47:56 10.1. That I've noticed. That's a little frustrating. And that's come in line with the Eagles finding their run game. Yeah. But his target share is encouraging, you know? Oh yeah. If they ever threw more passes, that would be great.
Starting point is 00:48:11 They'll throw more than 15. I know I keep making this reference, but it just feels like the Ravens of last year. It feels like Marquise Brown and Mark Andrews or Devante Smith and Dallas Goddard, and they're going to throw 20 to 25 times a game. I agree with that, except for two problems. I don't think Jalen Hurts is as good as Lamar Jackson, and I don't think Dallas Goddard is as good as Mark Andrews. Yeah. Finally, Heath, we are on the same page.
Starting point is 00:48:41 All right. Okay, New England at Atlanta. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. New England at Atlanta. Let's get... Nah. New England allows the second fewest points per game in the NFL behind only Buffalo. And I'm pretty sure the Falcons allowed the second most points per game in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:48:56 So there's that. Stat of the game number one. Mack Jones has thrown 20 passes inside the 10-yard line. 11 of them have gone to tight ends. And is Johnny Smith going to play in this game, by the way? Do we know? Don't know. And honestly, for fantasy purposes, I do not care.
Starting point is 00:49:13 Well, would you guys start Hunter Henry or Kyle Pitts? I'd start Pitts, but I don't really feel great about either one getting more than eight or nine PPR points. Would you start Mac Jones or Matt Ryan? I think I started the week with Mac ahead of Ryan. I might've switched that. I don't really want to start either one.
Starting point is 00:49:38 No, they're two QB only. Um, neither one of my top 18. I don't think I don't know. have ryan two spots ahead of mac jones yeah same so yeah i think people might be a little higher on mac jones against the team that gives up the second most fantasy points the quarterbacks how come you guys are resisting that because i think they're going to be able to run quite a bit on the Atlanta Falcons.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Well, yeah. And like how many good fantasy games has Mac Jones had this year? Two games is more than 21 fantasy points. I think three or four with 21 or more. 20 or more. So I think let's see. Fantasy points. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:50:23 You heard what I said. Two games is more than 21 fantasy points. Yeah, look, they're going to run the ball. They're going to run the ball a lot and probably successfully. The Falcons, actually, they're kind of like the Jaguars, that they're not that bad per carry. Unlike the Jaguars, they're giving up a ton of touchdowns, a ton of fantasy points, and they see the fourth most rushing touchdowns per game
Starting point is 00:50:49 and a lot of attempts, I don't know, but also the eighth most receiving yards per game, the running back. So, all right, listen. Let me just get to the running backs later. Let's finish this off here. Any wide receivers that you have confidence in in this game? Kyle Pitts.
Starting point is 00:51:05 No. Jacoby Myers is my favorite confidence in in this game? Kyle Pitts. No. Jacoby Myers is my favorite wide receiver in the game, and he's not in my top 30. Not a great deal of confidence. Correct. Would you take a flyer on Russell Gage or Zaccheaus or anyone like that, given the fact that we're expecting
Starting point is 00:51:21 Patterson to miss the game? I would rather start Marcus Johnson. Same. Okay. All right. But who's Matt Ryan going to throw to? He's going to throw to Pitts, and New England's probably going to do a good job against him. He's going to throw to McCourty and J.C. Jackson.
Starting point is 00:51:38 I think he will throw to J.C. Jackson at least once. He's probably going to throw to Mike Davis at least six times. Kyle Pitts will get six. So they've got 14 of his targets there where are the other 20 I'm not sure about the ball that much running backs and all right then Kyle Pitts I think Jamie does have pits pretty low and you guys have him more like sixth. Which tight ends are you starting over Pitts? All the studs, Pat Fryermuth. I'm going to have to make a decision on Hawkinson and Gasicki
Starting point is 00:52:16 versus Kyle Pitts. Yeah, it's just Kelsey Kittle, Andrews, Waller for me, and I had to move Andrews and Waller ahead because projections-wise, it was just Kelsey Kittle. How are you going to start Friar Muth over him if Mason Rudolph's starting? And you won't even know that by Thursday. Because, well, then it can only go up from there
Starting point is 00:52:34 if it's going to be Mason Rudolph starting. He's still got a lot of targets from Rudolph last week. The biggest mistake that Friar Muth made, Rudolph had nothing to do with. It's just a matter of him just getting some more opportunities near the goal line, which we've seen before. And that's an easy fix for the Steelers. But I mean... I don't think it's an easy fix because it requires them getting near the goal line with Mason Rudolph.
Starting point is 00:53:00 Yeah, but they're playing the Chargers without the Chargers' best defensive player in another defensive line.gers best defensive player in overtime they scored what 10 points or something did they get into the red zone once or twice against the Lions the Steelers yeah at least once I don't know I don't
Starting point is 00:53:17 have that number in my head that's my problem with Fryer he's not he's probably going to be 40 yards and four or five catches which is okay, but I don't like his touchdown chances very good with Mason Rudolph at quarterback. And we like Kyle Pitts' touchdown chances against the Patriots? Well, Kyle Pitts, if he
Starting point is 00:53:33 catches three passes, has probably got 50 yards. Yeah, sure. Okay, they scored 16 points, not 10, the Steelers last week. So New England gives up the second fewest points to tight ends. Who have they played? They held Gasicki catchless in week one.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Dalton Schultz had five for 79. And they haven't really faced good ones. They've given up. This stat is meaningless when it comes to Kyle Pitts. Okay. Completely meaningless. He's not a tight end. You keep saying that, but he lines up.
Starting point is 00:54:03 He's not like an X receiver. He lines up as a tight end. He's pass blocked 10 times all lines up. He's not like an X receiver. 30% of the time he lines up as a tight end. He's pass blocked 10 times. It doesn't matter if he pass blocks. I'm talking about who's going to cover him. They're going to cover him like he's a wide receiver. Just like everybody else does. I would guess J.C. Jackson's a wide receiver. Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:54:20 But they probably covered Mike Kosicki that way, too, would be my guess. Probably a good call. You get a sneak preview of what that'll be like. How many catches does Kosicki have in week one again? Zero on three targets. Oh, okay. Okay, how about the running backs?
Starting point is 00:54:36 Never fired me. Heath, break down the Patriots running backs. Oh, yeah. Yep, got it. Well, if there's no Damian Harris, then Ramond Ray Stevenson is a top 12 running back. If Damian Harris plays, then you can have zero confidence
Starting point is 00:54:54 in anything for any of the running backs. We don't even know for sure that Brandon Bolden will be the pass-catching guy because it might be Harris early downs, Stevenson passing downs, no Bolden. It might be Stevenson early downs no Bolden it might be Stevenson early downs Bolden passing downs no Harris it might be Harris rushing downs Bolden passing downs no Stevenson so if Harris plays you're just looking at these guys as flexes who
Starting point is 00:55:20 do have really big upside in this matchup Harrisris and stevenson not there's not a lot of upside for bolden um but i would not have a patriots running back honestly in full ppr if harris is active i'm probably starting mike davis over any of the patriots running backs that makes me kind of sick it's gross i don't like it do you agree you don't say you should put damian harris ahead of of Mike Davis at the very least, which is what I would do. If Harris plays, I think he's going to be a number two fantasy running back. Week five, week six, not only did they both play,
Starting point is 00:55:54 they both played roughly 30. One game it was 35% of the snaps. The other game Harris played half the snaps. And Harris scored in each. Harris has scored in five straight games. I don't see how you can get away from him. Short week matchup. He didn't play last week. He's going to have fresh legs. I think there's a chance if Harris plays, he gets to 100
Starting point is 00:56:14 yards and a touchdown. Ramondre is the one that I would be nervous about. He would be no better than a middling flex if Harris plays. Mike Davis is going to be your favorite Falcons running back? Yes. But it's like asking me what my favorite vegetable is. I don't know. There's a really good opportunity for receiving totals here.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Really good opportunity. I think in full PPR, there's a pretty big gap for me between Davis and Goldman. I don't really... In non-PPRr it's really close and they're both gross do you think that they're going to use mike davis like they've used cordero patterson no not entirely but kind of well they're not going to use him as a wide receiver i think they're going to use mike davis like they've used mike davis and they're going to find somebody
Starting point is 00:57:01 else to fill in patterson's role. Probably not a running back. Well, no, I, I want to clarify Cordero. Patterson has received some targets out of the backfield as well. Like he's not only been thrown to as a wide receiver. So I think the targets out of the backfield that Patterson has received
Starting point is 00:57:18 Davis will get. And that's one area where the Patriots defense has struggled is guarding running backs, catching passes out of the backfield. I don't think they're going to line Mike Davis up as a wide receiver like they did Patterson. I agree with that. Not that much. No.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah. So in their last seven games, the Patriots have allowed 46 or more receiving yards to eight running backs. That's mind blowing. That's more running backs than games. It is. And 46, that's a lot of yards so they are really bad at that and probably you know could be by design just they're good at pretty much everything else defensively so all right would you guys would you start a running back in this
Starting point is 00:57:56 game over saquon barkley at the bucks no oh well not so bad stevenson, if Harris is out, then you'd start Stevenson, I assume, right? For sure. Over Barkley. Let's say hypothetically tomorrow the report is the same as I think it was last week. He's working out on the side, Saquon Barkley, making progress. It gets tough to start to sit anybody over him on Thursday night. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:58:37 I think we've covered this. And Hunter Henry? Do you want to try and get seven fantasy points from your tight end? Start Hunter Henry, but he also might give you four. Um, low ceiling tight end starter. Yeah. Much rather start Arnold. Much rather start Conklin.
Starting point is 00:58:59 I would prefer Earth's actually this week, but Henry's right there after that group. I'd start Henry over Evan Ingram, who I think was my second favorite streamer. Dave, I think that pretty much... Oh, Patriots, DSC, start them. Dave, I think we're done. Na, na, na, na, na, na. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:18 Yeah. All right. So I wanted to do Fantasy Cops. Let's fire through emails and Apple Podcasts and we'll do fantasy cops at the very end. Chris, uh,
Starting point is 00:59:27 non PPR grade, the trade, give up Hopkins and Melvin Gordon. Get back. Nick Chubb. Chubb side wins. Okay. Giving up Chubb.
Starting point is 00:59:40 No, he's giving up Hopkins and Melvin Gordon for Chubb and non PPR. Perfect trade to make. If you're, if you're one of those teams that's heading toward the playoffs you're consolidating you're uh getting fewer lineup decisions in the future all right b would be even better if you got kareem hunter dearness johnson on your bench okay great b from jason i have barkley gibson montgomery michael Montgomery, Michael Carter, Darrell Williams at running back. All right, that's not bad. Wide receiver, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:00:09 I was offered Justin Jefferson for Carter and McLaurin. So you give up McLaurin, you get Justin Jefferson. You also give up Michael Carter, still leaving him with Barkley, Gibson, Montgomery, and Darrell Williams. Half PPR. Do it. Do it. Do it.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Yes. Jefferson side wins. Do it. Do it. Do it. Yes. Jefferson side wins. From Malcolm, 7-3, getting ready for the playoffs. Need an RB2. Should I trade DK Metcalf for Daryl Henderson? That would leave me with Lamb, Chase, and Devante Smith at
Starting point is 01:00:39 wide receiver. It feels like the timing's off on making that deal. I would actually see if you can get something with Henderson back. I would try to get just a little bit better running back.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Okay. Try to get Montgomery. Kyle from a city north of Kansas City and south of Minneapolis. Des Moines. Sure. I swear to God, and south of Minneapolis. Des Moines. Sure. Oh, I swear to God I was about to say Des Moines. It's the only city in between those two. Oh.
Starting point is 01:01:13 I had no idea. At three and seven, I was three and seven trying to make the playoffs. I sent McCaffrey and Judy. I got Jamar Chase and Michael Pittman. Grade the trade. Boo! That's an F.
Starting point is 01:01:30 And also, I want to apologize to the good people of Omaha. Now, I've been there. I've actually been to Des Moines, too. Alright, dynasty trade for Michael. I give Dalvin Cook a late second round pick and a third round pick. Both in 2022. I give up Dalvin Cook a late second round pick and a third round pick.
Starting point is 01:01:46 All ball of both in 2022. I give up Dalvin Cook a late second and a third. I get Michael Pittman, Trevor Lawrence, one QB league, a first round in 22 and a first rounder in 23. So I think Pittman and a first for dalvin cook um if you're going nowhere i like the trade that's not too far off at all yeah i i think that's a that's a b maybe a b plus apple podcast questions from cool two dollars what value do i get with these players?
Starting point is 01:02:25 If I'm looking to trade for a true wide receiver to Boston, Scott Bateman, Pollard, Friar, Muth, Sony, Michelle, they're all going to be cheap players.
Starting point is 01:02:37 If you're trying to trade two of them for one wide receiver to, I, maybe you could try and convince somebody to give you Hunter Renfro. Maybe Judy? Go try to find a team that doesn't have a tight end, which there's probably two or three of them, and see if they think that Friar moves their answer the rest of the season.
Starting point is 01:02:58 And then throw on whatever else they want and see if you can get maybe even a Tyler Lockett or a Devontae Smith type. From Grant, 10-team PPR league, grade the trade, give Nick Chubb and Kelsey, get Najee Harris and Pitts. It's full PPR.
Starting point is 01:03:16 Chubb and Kelsey for Harris and Pitts. C-. I think the Chubb-Kelsey side wins pretty handily. From Josh in the Tar Heel State. Where's that, Dave? North Carolina. Good job.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Grade the trade. 10-team half PPR. Give up Fryermuth and Higgins. Fryermuth and T. Higgins get Odell Beckham and Eli Mitchell. And he still has Kelsey, so he doesn't need Fryermuth. I like it. I like it, but I like Eli Mitchell quite a bit. He's the best player in that deal, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:49 I think so. A-. Okay, guys. You want to stay a little overtime and do Fantasy Cops? Oh, yeah. Only if you play the music. Oh, come on, Dave. I would never not play the music. Regulate! Okay, first Fantasy Cops comes from Sleepless in Seattle.
Starting point is 01:04:10 I am in a 14-team PPR Superflex League Tuesday night just before 8 p.m. I traded away Terry McLaurin, Tarod Taylor, and Chris Carson, and I got Devante Adams. I made this three-for-one trade specifically on Tuesday night as the waivers run Wednesday morning at 6 a.m. This way, I could go get Deontay Foreman, et cetera, to fill out my roster. So he had two extra spots.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Here's the twist. The league commissioner texts me at about 8.30 p.m., congratulating me on the fleece of a trade I pulled off. I thanked him and then I asked him when the trade would be processed, to which he replied, tomorrow because I am in bed and can't do it from my phone. Apparently, you can't approve or process trades from the app on the other website that I will not say. Either way, I followed with, can you please process tonight so I can add guys on waivers tomorrow morning?
Starting point is 01:05:10 Then I got crickets. You will never guess who I am playing this week in a matchup. We both need to win to keep our playoff hopes alive. Yep, that's right, the commish. He is a good friend and a great guy, but fellas, help me out here. Was I asking too much or
Starting point is 01:05:25 should it have been put through probably not a whole lot i can do at this point why why do league commissioners insist on approving a trade why not just let a trade go through what why have this extra piece of red tape? No, I don't agree with that. Dave's 100% right. Yeah, he's 50% right. Hold on, hold on, hold on. If a commissioner makes the decision that he's got to be the one
Starting point is 01:05:56 to approve and checkmark every single trade, then he needs to actually do it in a very timely manner. The commission's in the wrong here. I agree with Dave at the start The commish is in the wrong here. I agree with Dave at the start that the commish is in the wrong for having to approve trades. 100%. But
Starting point is 01:06:13 this is an unpaid volunteer position, and if you should not be required to get out of bed to approve someone else's trade. It's 8.30 p.m. What the hell? This guy might live in California and the other guy might live in New York. I don't get that sense.
Starting point is 01:06:31 And I don't, like, 8.30 p.m., who knows? He lives in Seattle. He might have to wake up at 5 a.m. He lives in Seattle. His name is Sleepless in Seattle. Yes. So what if the commissioner lives on the East Coast? So it was 11.30 p.m.
Starting point is 01:06:41 Get out of bed. Get the hell out of bed. You're awake. You're awake. Get out of bed. No, that's so bed. You're awake. You're awake. Get out of bed. No, that's so weak. Are you kidding me? What's weak is having it to want to be such a proof traits.
Starting point is 01:06:51 That's you've got to be Mr. Commissioner enforcer. And you've got to make sure that every single trade is fair before you let it out in the league. Yeah. Well, you've got to make yourself available. Get out of bed.
Starting point is 01:07:01 And if you don't like that, then get rid of that piece of red tape. You knucklehead. All right. Next out of bed. And if you don't like that, then get rid of that piece of red tape, you knucklehead. Alright, next one from Joe. He needs to walk it back. He needs to allow... He needs to make a switch. He can't.
Starting point is 01:07:14 It's too late now. No, he absolutely should. Rewind waivers for the whole league? Yes. No. The players that this guy wanted, he should have been able to get the players he wanted. He probably saved you from using Deontay Freeman anyway. And spending your VAT. All right.
Starting point is 01:07:31 But Sleepless got screwed. There we go. Joe, halfway between St. Louis and Kansas City. Des Moines, Iowa. That would either be Columbia or maybe Jeff City. I'm going to go Omaha. He says, buckle up. I'm in an eight-team, two running back,
Starting point is 01:07:52 two wide receivers, super flex league with the worst commissioner I've ever played with. I've argued with him a couple of times about this league. It only takes three votes to veto a trade. Our championship is played in week 18, and we only start two wide receivers for some reason. Adam's the commissioner. Yeah, yeah. I played against
Starting point is 01:08:09 my commissioner's roommate in week 10. Just before the games kicked... The funny thing is, I'm just going to tell you right now, spoiler alert, Joe, who wrote this email, is so wrong. I played against my commissioner's roommate in week 10. Just before the games kicked off on Sunday, I added Nick
Starting point is 01:08:26 Folk, but in my rush to set all my leagues, I forgot to actually put him in my lineup. Once I noticed this, I contacted my commissioner and asked him to put him in for me. He told me to... He told me no. What exactly did he tell him? I don't
Starting point is 01:08:42 think I can read that. I ended up losing my three points. Is the second word off? No. The second word is it. Okay. Degeneration X is his commissioner. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Okay. I ended up losing by three points. I felt like I deserved to win the game because kickers don't matter anyway. Needless to say, I'm a little fed up with this league. I want to quit out of spite and principle, but I'm eight and two, and I have McCaffrey and Barkley.
Starting point is 01:09:06 What do I do? Dude, I'm sorry, Joe. Your commissioner might be bad. You said your lineup, you idiot moron. You're wrong here. Yeah, the only gray area I see here is if he messaged him between 11.55 and noon. Central. Central.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Central. Well, yeah, they're in Missouri. Yeah. If he messaged him between the time where Folk had locked and the time when the game had started, then the commissioner should have done it, even if the commissioner didn't see it until an hour later.
Starting point is 01:09:38 Yeah, I agree. The intention was expressed. Yeah, yeah. I'm fine with that. Do you think it's at the commissioner's discretion to do that though? Like a commissioner could say, okay, yeah,
Starting point is 01:09:51 you're, you're fine. But the commissioner could also say, sorry, rules are rules. No, because he was playing the commissioner's roommate. And so if he has that discretion to do that for people that he likes and not do it for people he doesn't like
Starting point is 01:10:06 but we don't know if that's the case that's why you should take discretion out of it if you ever are the commissioner I'm sorry if you ever are the commissioner and you do something like this you need to alert the entire league and set a precedent right and so everybody needs to know that you did it and then you have to continue to do it
Starting point is 01:10:22 every time and all Heath is saying is there's a five minute window in between lineups, locking in the game, starting. If you notice a mistake in your lineup, what I would do is I would send a note to the entire league personally. I wouldn't just text the commissioner, but we're okay with the commissioner editing a lineup. If it is announced, you know, in that five minute window that you want to make a change. All right, guys, thank you so much for hanging out for this long and doing some fantasy cops. Great show today.
Starting point is 01:10:49 And, uh, happy, have a wonderful Wednesday, everybody. Here we go. I know. Double up.
Starting point is 01:10:57 All right. I'm just going to go read the dictionary out loud now. Uh, we'll talk to you tomorrow. We'd start our day.

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