Fantasy Football Today - 🚨 Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins! (03/23 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: March 23, 2022

There are so many Fantasy angles to cover as the Dolphins have acquired Tyreek Hill. Is he still a Top 5 WR? Top 10? And how does this change the WR landscape? Moving on, what does this mean for Patrick Mahomes (8:00)? Is Travis Kelce the clear #1 TE in Fantasy now (18:00)? And would you rather have Jaylen Waddle or Juju Smith-Schuster (19:15)? How about Tua Tagovailoa vs. the Year 2 QBs (25:10)? At the end of the Podcast, we talk about what this trade means for the Chiefs franchise and the NFC West in general. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. The craziness of the NFL offseason continues. Wow, Jamie. Teron Armstead to the Dolphins. Huge franchise-altering move. Have you done our Jamison Crowder emergency podcast yet? No.

No, I wasn't sure if we should do just Duke Johnson and then Jamison Crowder or combine them. But actually, getting Teron Armstead's a pretty big deal. But then you go and you acquire Tyreek Hill the next day for five picks. First, second, and fourth rounders this year. Fourth and sixth rounders next year. No picks higher than 29th overall. That'll be the first round pick they give to the Chiefs this year.

And the Dolphins signed Tyreek Hill to a four-year deal worth $120 million. So that's an extension with $72.2 million guaranteed, according to Adam Schefter. Boy. All right, give me your immediate reaction here. And then I'm going to ask you to rank Juju Smith-Schuster versus Jalen Waddell, since that's what everybody wants to know. My immediate reaction is, you know, it feels a little sad because you're taking away one of the best pairings that we've had in the last, you know, four or five years of Patrick

Mahomes and Tyree Kill. And even if, you know, Mahomes gets a quality replacement, whether it's Juju or, you know, now finally Mikko Hardman gets to fulfill his potential as the, as the guy there, if it's Marcos about this Gatling, who's rumored to be signing, if it's a rookie that they draft now in the first round, um, none of those guys are going to be what Tyree kill would have been in this offense for at least this season and probably the next couple of years. So, you know, you downgrade my homes. You have to, um, downgrade Tyree kill because of the quarterback downgrade and it hurts Jalen Waddle. So, you know, you downgrade Mahomes. You have to. You downgrade Tyree Kill because of the quarterback downgrade. And it hurts Jalen Waddell.

So, you know, it just feels like across the board, the top guys lose a little bit. Travis Kelsey, not so much because I don't think, you know, you change his status. But the second-tier guys, you know, they benefit in Kansas City. Again, whether it's Hardman or Juju or, you know, whoever else they bring in, all those guys get a boost, clearly. But, you know, you're taking away, I mean, you think about this.

We went into the offseason with Devontae Adams, potentially the number one receiver, Tyree Kill, surefire top five guy, and now Adams, borderline top five guy, you know, depending on how you view it. And Tyree Kill, maybe borderline top 10 guy. I haven't really settled on where I'm going to rank him yet, but he's no longer in the top five. And, you know, that's frustrating. It is pretty interesting.

There are so many angles to this trade in terms of fantasy. But when you talk about who you're taking in the first round, there was, as of a week ago, five top receivers that were, I don't know if they were consensus, but pretty close. In some order, Adams, Kup, Chase, Jefferson, Hill. It's probably a big three now, right? Yeah, I mean, I still think Adams and Hill have value, but in the first round, yes.

I think you're only going to see those three guys barring something crazy happening in the next week or the NFL draft. But, you know, I think it's and I know we did the draft. We did draft yesterday. PPR draft. I think Tyreek Hill was the first round pick. But Jamar Chase was not. I know Chase was definitely the second round.

And so he was 13th, but he could have. Yeah, right. I know he's 14th. I'll look it up now. No, Jamar Chase. Because I had a late pick and I was debating. Chase was 15th.

15th. And yeah, this is the thing. What I'm saying is if you have a late pick and you're deciding between a running back and a wide receiver, I think this makes you

more likely to take one of the big three because they are now in a smaller tier and they might have an even bigger edge over the position without Tyreek Hill

paired with Patrick Holmes, without Devontae Adams paired with Aaron Rodgers. Kopp, Chase, Jefferson on paper may have gained value just in terms of they're just that much better than the rest of the position now. It's not a big five, it's a big three, so maybe considering who's a back end of the first round

running back. Joe Mixon versus one of those three. It's not going to be Kopp, he'll go off the board, back Joe Mixon versus one of those three. It's not gonna be cup. He'll go off the board, but Joe Mixon versus Jefferson or chase. I feel like this maybe changes things. It makes you go wide receiver more than running back now, just because wide receiver has been weakened at the top.

Does do you feel, do you agree? Yeah. I guess the only counter to that would be, you know, how the draft is unfolding because if you're, you know, 11,

12 and both receivers are still there, you can conceivably hope that the guy after you, well, obviously not 12, but 11 leaves one. all right, let's say you're eighth. Let's say you're eighth and Cooper.

Yeah. I mean, you know, if you're, if you're torn on mixing, you know, who knows where Javante ends up with any competition, you know,

Najee may fall a little bit. McCaffrey, who knows, depending on your league. Kamara, if there's a suspension. Dalvin Cook is clearly losing some steam for some reason. So if you're staring at that group and if you want to take it a step further, Nick Chubb, Antonio Gibson, those guys, you might be better off just taking the receiver

and taking the running back that falls back to you. Okay, so now to the rankings here where's tyreek hill so when i first looked at it i i've unfortunately been stuck in a chair doing video stuff for uh when i say unfortunately just in terms of my rankings but um i've been stuck in in this chair so i haven't gotten a chance i didn't bring my computer with me upstairs. So I was just kind of eyeballing it. And initially I thought eighth, which would put him behind the three that you mentioned. I still have Adams fourth ahead of Hill.

And then it is DeFon Diggs, CeeDee Lamb, Deebo Samuel, or no, excuse me, A.J. Brown as my top seven with Tyree Kill in the mix there. And so I initially thought I'll put him behind AJ Brown. But I'm not sure.

You know, it's just, is Keenan Allen better in PPR with his quarterback still than Tyree Kill, who, to me, Tyree Kill feels like he's going to be, and this is clearly a good thing, a better version of Deebo Samuel, because I would imagine Mike McDaniel is going to do some similar things with him, right? Not necessarily the carries to the same level, but you remember Tyree Kill's early part of his career. He was lining up in the back of the lot, you know, before he really understood how to play receiver and how the Chiefs really fully maximize how to use him. And so could they do some of those things in Miami, which I think makes some sense, you know, to just be creative with them, you know, so bubble screen, some more jet sweeps, some more of those things, not necessarily carries per se. So I think there'll be some of that creativity, but, you know, it's, it's not Mahomes, you know, and that's the, that's the thing you got to deal with.

It's, it's not Patrick Mahomes. It's not Andy Reed. So, you know, you're asking a lot of Tua, who's, you know, the only, I think way to label him has been a bust. And you're asking a lot of Mike McDaniels, the first time head coach, to do those things with clearly a player who's a unicorn. And so it's just a matter of, I think, where your trust level comes in, comparing him to, you know, the Bucs

guys, assuming Chris Godwin is healthy, to T. Higgins. Godwin, I mean, I feel like Godwin will move way up if he's good to go for training camp, good to go for preseason, right? And I think right now, in a full PPR league, I would definitely take him over Tyreek Hill. Definitely.

Right now? I'm sorry. With the caveat that they're both playing week one. You know, no setbacks. Oh, for sure. If you told me right now both are healthy, I would take Godwin. Yes. And you're going to a T of Iloa who I think only Jared Goff averaged fewer air yards per pass attempt than to a last year. I'll look that up right now. But the Armstead signing it to a five year deal is a pretty big deal. It's going to go under the radar now. But they had arguably the

worst offensive line. If you looked at the games, if you looked at the PFF ratings, the Dolphins offensive line was terrible. Getting a franchise left tackle in there, let's hope he can stay healthy. Let's hope he's not at that point of his career where he's breaking down.

I know he had some injury issues last year, but Teron Armstead coming over from the Saints to the Dolphins, it should really help. I mean, the Dolphins have gotten so much better in the last 24 hours. And Connor Williams,

let's not forget his time, too. Yes, yes. So they have gotten a lot better. All right. So Tyreek Hill, you're thinking somewhere around eight. We'll see how things shake out there. Mahomes, he was one or two for you. He was two.

Both Dave and Heath had him one. I had him two. And now? So again, just eyeballing it, it really comes down to Brady and Wilson because I'm going to take Justin Herbert ahead of him. I'm going to take Lamar Jackson ahead of him. And then it comes down to Brady, who was five for me. So it went originally Allen, Mahomes, Herbert, Jackson, Brady five, Russell Wilson six.

And so do I trust Patrick Mahomes with a receiving core of Juju, who he's never played with, Mikko Hardman, who has clearly never lived up to the expectations? There is the thought, because he was visiting there, that Marcos Valdez-Scantling will be signed and could be the replacement. So factor that in for anybody listening to this, not live. And then you have the best tight end in football, plus Andy Reid. So does mahomes with

that group stand out more so than brady or or wilson i'll probably put him behind brady but ahead of wilson right now so he'll be fifth okay so he just like aaron rogers without davante adams we have a limited sample of patrick mahomes Tyreek Hill, and it's pretty good. I think it was four games in 2019, not including week one, which was also a great week, where Tyreek Hill left with an injury. I mean, if you do want to include that game, weeks one, two, and three...

You're not either batting that one? I don't know. It depends what side of the Mahomes debate I want to be on. If you want to include that, I'll just look at his first five games. First five games of 2019, Tyreek Hill got hurt in week one, and he missed the next four.

Patrick Mahomes scored 33, 40, 34, 18, and 21 fantasy points. In those last two games, he only threw one touchdown, but he threw for 315 and 321 yards in those two games. And in those five games, and I'm just looking at this now, I haven't done this before the show, I'm sorry about that, 11 touchdowns, no interceptions. So he was outstanding with three monster games out of five without Tyreek Hill.

And Rodgers also had some terrific performances without Devontae Adams. So I'm just throwing that out there, Jamie. The limited track record, the limited sample size is very good. It's a lot better, I would say, than what we've seen in a limited sample size of Tyreek Hill without Patrick Mahomes.

And if you want some numbers on that, I mean, I think you would look if... Tua, by the way, he had the fourth lowest intended air yards per pass attempt last year. It was Roethlisberger, Andy Dalton who qualified, and Goff were lower in terms of how far they threw per pass. Yeah, I think some of that, though, is Tua would be even on three-step drops. Sure. Putting the ground, there's a guy in his face.

Sure. But he hasn't shown the ability to really throw the ball downfield yet at this level. Yep. I guess if there's two seasons that you want to look at with Tyreek Hill, it would be his second year in the league, which was with Alex Smith. And he was very good. He was fourth in non-PPR, ninth in PPR.

It was a very weak year for a receiver, but it was 75 catches, almost 1,200 yards, seven touchdowns as still a young guy emerging. And then last year, even though Hill played, or even though Mahomes played, it was a very different offense where Mahomes was 25th, by the way,

in air yards for pass attempt. They weren't throwing the ball downfield. So we got a little bit of a sample of what Tyreek Hill looked like as less of a downfield guy, much lower ADOT. And he had, once again, a great season. It wasn't typical Tyreek Hill looked like as less of a downfield guy, much lower ADOT, and he had, once again, a great season. It wasn't typical Tyreek Hill.

He was 7th per game in non-PPR, 7th and a half PPR, 6th per game in full PPR, but he was really good. He just caught a ton of passes but didn't make the explosive plays. I'm not sure if that translates at all. All right, Jamie, I'm sorry.

Is there anything you want to add to that? I'm just throwing out some stat no it's all relevant I was just quickly looking at our draft from yesterday and I'm curious where you would take Tyreek Hill so

assuming that he goes behind the group of Kup, Jefferson and Chase so we start there. So here are the receivers that came off the board. This was our staff. So Frank Stample is part of this, Jacob Gibbs. You know, most of the voices that you hear

in some of our producers' HQ. So would you take Tyreek Hill or A.J. Brown? I would take A.J. Brown in non or half, and I would take Tyreek in full PPR. Okay, so then you answered the question. He would be the fourth receiver off the board for you? No. He would be maybe the fifth.

Diggs would be fourth. Okay, so this is the order it went. After Chase, Jacob Gibbs took A.J. Brown, then Diggs, then Adams, then Diggs, then Lamb, and then Debo. So if I were doing rankings, it would be the big three, followed by Diggs, followed by probably Adams, followed by asterisks Chris Godwin, if healthy, and then Tyreek Hill would probably fall in around there. So you'd take Hill over A.J. Brown?

In full PPR. Because I don't think he's going to. And that's the thing. Hill has actually not been a full PPR guy. I think he will be better in full PPR. I feel like that's what the Dolphins offense will be more suited to. Like what we saw with Waddle last year. A different offense.

I know. I still don't think they're going to be a downfield throw. Super efficient. Like Mahomes, so incredibly efficient. So they didn't think they're going to be a downfield throw. Super efficient. Like Mahomes, so incredibly efficient. So they didn't run that many plays because they had so many long touchdowns and things like that. And last year was very different. And you saw Tyreek Hill's targets and catches go way up.

He won't hit those levels, but I feel like he'll profile more like that, Tyreek Hill, than the downfield guy, explosive play guy that he, that he was in the previous three years. That's what I think. What do you think? I think the numbers you gave in the Alex Smith season are very realistic because if Mike McDaniel brings something from San Francisco, it's getting guys in space and yards after catch.

And so that I think is where his numbers will be a little bit different. It's not going to be the intended area yards down the field. I think it's going to be more what he does with the ball in his hands and that ability, which will maximize to his ability where he doesn't have to sit there and, you know, throw the ball 50 yards down the field and hope Tyree can run under it and make a play because I still don't think this offensive line is going to be tremendously great. I think it's going to take a significant stride, like you said, but there's still some holes there that could potentially be filled or just better coaching and better scheme helps those guys play better.

So look, Tyreek has shared the field with the best tight end, maybe in NFL history, but he's now asked to share the field with a guy like Jalen Waller, just does different things, has a rapport and a history with Tua going back to college. And so, you know,

he's going to have to, you know, change that a little bit where 20's safety valve was jaylen waddle last season so if they keep parker it's a very good group yeah it is you know i mean sed wilson's an underrated player he's not a star he's not gonna be a good fantasy option but he's a good player and mike iseki we know it was you know we've been waiting for somebody to unleash him and maybe m McDaniel is that type of guy. So it's a good group. It's a fast group. My God. Raheem Mostert, his 40 time was amazing. Waddle's 40 time, amazing. Tyreek Hill, we know, 4-3 guy. This team can run. They put together a

very nice offensive unit here, and it's just a matter of if Tua is good, they will be good. And if Tua stinks, well, then you know what you're dealing with. You're, you're, you're not drafting Tyree kill. I think as a fantasy receiver, based on what Tyree kills capable of,

because you kind of know what he's capable of. You said it. He's awesome. And he was amazing with Mahomes. So he'll be probably around the Alex Smith numbers. If things go right for Tua, but if Tua stinks, it's a,

it's a wasted second round pick. Yeah, Smith had a very good year that year, but he only threw about 4,000. Actually, he's pretty good because he's about 4,000 yards in 15 games that year. He averaged something like 265 passing yards per game. And before this trade, I don't think anybody would have

projected that for Tua Tungabailoa, but Tyreek Hill just has that ability to make plays after the catch or before the catch. He's a one-man fantasy point machine. And we'll see where he falls. Okay, so we have a lot more to talk about here. He does benefit with J.C. Jackson leaving the division. That's a good thing for the Patriots.

But he's got to face the Bills defense twice, which might not be great. So you've got Travis Kelsey. Is he the definitive number one now? Yes. Okay. These are teasers. Especially with 300 targets coming his way. Juju Smith-Schuster versus Jalen Waddell.

I'm actually curious to see what you think about that. We'll talk about Tua. Would you take Tua over Justin Fields and Trey Lance and Trevor Lawrence? All those questions will be answered when we come back on Fantasy Football today. So did you have, I always forget, Jamie, did you have Kelsey ahead of Andrews? Yes. Okay, and now it's not even close or what? Now it's not close, no.

Okay, so. Kelsey was a second round pick for me. I may put him back in the first round. Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at the draft we did yesterday. Najee Harris, DeAndre Swift, Alvin Cook, Joe Mixon. Would you take Kelsey over any of them in a PPR league? I would not take DeAndre Swift over Travis Kelsey. But you'd take Najee, Cook, and Mixon?

Yes. Yeah, but he's a first-round pick now. He's going to go ahead of Tyreek Hill, obviously, who went 11th. All right, we don't have to say much about Kelsey. And obviously, Chiefs aren't done. There's an NFL draft coming. It's loaded in wide receivers, and maybe there's another move to be made.

You know there's a quarter of the teams in the NFL that do not have a first-round pick. You're kidding me. No. Wow. Wow. Also, I was reading the report, the Jets had a trade lined up for Tyreek Hill too.

And I think they let Tyreek Hill decide where he wanted to go between Miami and the Jets. It was not a first-round pick, though, according to the package that Jeff turned and grabbed a port tweet. But it couldn't have been that much lower than... It was three seconds. Three seconds. Okay.

And the highest pick they got was 29th from the Dolphins. So, let's go to, yeah, Jalen Waddell versus Juju Smith-Schuster. I don't think it's a crazy question at this point. Who would you take? To be honest with you, Adam, you know, barring what the Chiefs do, I don't know if Juju's better than Mikko Hartman. I'm going to draft Juju ahead of Mikko Hardman. But, I mean, we know what Mikko Hardman's done

when Tyree Kill's been off the field. And if you go back to when they drafted him, that was the intent, was Hill maybe being suspended and they were thinking about releasing him, you know, if you go back to his off-field situation at the time. So could Hardman be the biggest winner in all of this? You know, if you go back to his off-field situation at the time. So could Hardman be the biggest winner in all of this? You know, I want to see, because I think if they bring in

Valdez-Gantling, that kind of tells you what they think of Hardman. But, you know, we said this prior to last year that every time Tyreek Hill missed games, Mikko Hardman was pretty special. Was he, though? I didn't remember it being that way. So I wish I had more time to do that research.

I thought it was more like sometimes Hardman, sometimes Demarcus Robinson. Prior to last year. Yeah. Okay, I'll take your word for that. But 78%, by the way, we have a poll on YouTube, 78% say Juju over, wait, was it Juju over Hardman? Okay, I wanted Juju over Waddle.

I want to see what people think about that. I think it'll probably be Waddle. But Juju Smith-Schuster's had a 1,400-yard season. Oh, I mean, I'm not going to rank Hardman over Juju. But again, if it stands as it is right now, so they don't get Valdez-Galing and they, you know, day three draft pick, you know, just because they're backfilling their receiving core.

Then, you know, it certainly shows you what they think of Juju. But, you know, they had to have this conversation before they signed Juju. You know, so was this the intent that they're going to replace him with Juju Smith-Schuster, who's not the same player? And what do we say when they sign Juju? When has he been at his best? when he's not been the lead guy? Now you can say, okay,

Kelsey's there. He's not the lead guy, but still. So I'm excited for Juju. He's a big winner in all this by far, but I still think I'm taking Jalen Waddle. It's a, it's a very limited sample of games without me,

Cole Hart or without Tyreek Hill, but Hardman, here were the four games that Hill missed in 2019. Hardman had four for 61 and a touchdown on six targets, two for 97 and one on five targets, two for nine on five targets, bad game there, and four for 79 on six targets.

So he had five to six targets in all four games, and he came through with 16, 18, 18, one and 11 PPR fantasy points, three good games out of four. All right, we're getting a Juju Smith Schuster versus Jalen Waddle poll right now on YouTube. Please vote if you're watching. Let's talk about Waddle and where you're going to end up ranking him. He was top 12 in PPR last year. Not quite close to that in non-PPR. He was very catch-heavy.

But also one thing you should know, his numbers were dramatically better with Tua than they were with Jacoby Brissett, so he would have had an even better year if Tua hadn't gotten hurt. But 21 in non-PPR last year, 12th in PPR per game, 25th in non,

14th in PPR for Jalen Waddell. All right, where are you going to rank Waddell as of now? Probably outside the top 24. Certainly non-PPR because I think the touchdowns is where he'll lose. PPR probably still in the top 24. You know, I'll have to just, you know, once I sit down and look at it. But, you know, he's past past amari cooper he'll be behind amari cooper he'll be behind brandon cooks and deandre hopkins and um certainly the bucks guys

t higgins he's behind him it just comes to you know like the adam thielen mike williams group marquise brown michael pitman you know i don't know if he's still better than those guys. That's the question you have to ask yourself, and I have to ask myself. I think, again, the rapport with Tua will matter. I think McDaniels, looking at Jalen Waddell as a superstar, as he said, prior to when he got the job, but he didn't have Tyreek Hill at the time. But there's only so many footballs to go around, and a team that you've got to figure is still going to want to run the ball because that's what Mike McDaniel's coming from.

You know, so less targets probably in his direction. It's hard to say Jalen Waddell is still a must-start fantasy receiver in a two-receiver league. Oh, man. Mike, did you say Mike Williams versus Waddell? It's easy in non-PPR. PPR is tougher. You know, so, you know,

Williams is probably a 75-catch guy, right? You would say? Maybe 85 at best in this offense. Yeah. And Waddle is coming off a 100-catch season, but that's with Devontae Parker missing half the season as well. So, yeah, I'll probably still take Mike Williams. Let's see if we have Waddle.

Waddle is at 73% of the vote over Juju Smith-Schuster, which makes a ton of sense. It won't be far off, though. Yeah, I mean, if you just try to do the math and the opportunity and all that, Waddle, though, I just wonder if he's a superstar. Obviously, having the rookie season that he did, fifth overall pick, maybe sixth overall pick. Yeah, sixth overall pick.

So, got the pedigreeree he can do so much more he started to make more explosive plays late in the year he wasn't making any of them in the first half of the season started to make some more later in the year and maybe he could become a bargain if he just really emerges it might be at the expense of tyreek hill but you know he's he's damn good um okay and then anything else? How about Tua? Would you take Tua over those second-year quarterbacks, Fields, Lance, Lawrence? Fields, yes.

Because I think Lance, with his legs, will make more plays. So it'll probably go... Like, right now I have Derek Carr, 13, Aaron Rodgers, 14, Trey Lance, 15, Field, 16. I think I might have had Tua, 17 already. And so Tua will probably, I might put him ahead of Aaron Rodgers at this point. I mean, you know, it's just crazy.

That's so tough. All right, one more poll, Shraggy. It could be, though. It could be where Tua is. Again, you don't want to make direct parallels between a coach coming from one place to another. But Jimmy G had some pretty good weapons. Wasn't mobile. Tua's a little bit more mobile, but wasn't mobile.

And wasn't a great fantasy quarterback. He had moments, but wasn't consistently good. They ran the ball so well. And I think that's what the Dolphins are going to do too. You think so? I don't know that they can. Maybe they can. I guess they have had two offensive line upgrades.

Why would you trade for Hill if you're going to be run heavy though? Because he's a difference-making player. Yeah. He doesn't need the ball that much to make plays. If Tua plays well, they are freaking loaded. You already talked about it.

Their defense is good. With Waddle and Hill, you have two receivers who can make big plays. I know we didn't see that from Waddle so much last year, but in college, that's all he did. All right, now this is going to sound stupid, but take the quarterbacks away.

Which roster do you like better, Buffalo or Miami? Buffalo or Miami? I thought you were going to say the Chiefs or Miami. Take the quarterbacks away. What roster do I like? I would say Buffalo. I would too, but it got a lot closer today. Oh, sure.

Or this week. Maybe I don't. Maybe I wouldn't say Buffalo. No, I'd say Buffalo, but it's close. Buffalo has a lot of guys like they just make plays. They're not stars. Like the Dolphins, you know, probably a little bit splashier with some of the guys they have

on their defensive side of the ball. But yeah, it's going to be a fun AFC East now Mr. Davias White is he back or is he a free agent I think he's back White I believe is back but he's coming off an ACL tear right yeah he's coming off ACL yeah he signed a big contract extension in 2020

but honestly you know I don't mean to keep bringing it up but they had just also signed the best free agent offensive lineman so when you compare their rosters, they now have, if he's right, a franchise left tackle. Yes, and

you assume there's probably another move coming in the draft for the offensive line as well. Right. Do they have a first round pick now? Not anymore. Not anymore. By the way, 60% for Rodgers over Tua. I'm going to take Rodgers. I almost don't feel like there's any scenario

where I could take Tua over Rodgers. I will probably have it where I move Tua ahead of Fields. But if the Packers don't do anything at receiver, barring a day two pick in the draft and then a Julio Jones, Odell Beckham type of guy, I will take Lance over Rodgers too. I feel so bad for Heath because every time,

I don't care about the Tyreek thing for Heath, but every time we're supposed to do a dynasty show, something just seems to derail all of our dynasty talk and it gets minimized within the show. So tomorrow is supposed to be a full-length dynasty show, but how are we not going to be talking about Tyreek Hill? I can tell you that I'm a Tyreek Hill dynasty manager, and I don't love this.

And I would imagine the Jalen Waddle dynasty manager doesn't love this. And I would imagine the people that may have said, that have made some lowball offers for Juju Smith-Schuster, or even Mikko Hardman because thinking he might get cut and maybe get the chance someplace else after adding Juju. Those people are probably pretty happy right now. The Mahomes manager is not happy.

The Tua manager is very happy. I wonder how Patrick Mahomes himself is feeling. He just goes back and looks at his $500 million and says... Are they going to finish last in the division? That would be crazy, wouldn't it? I don't think they will.

Alright, so offensively, who do you like better? Chiefs or Broncos? You want to say Broncos? I do want to say Broncos. Yeah, I'll say the Broncos. Chargers or

Chiefs? I'll say the Broncos. Chargers or Chiefs? I'll rank the offense as Broncos, Chargers, Chiefs, Raiders. Why the Chiefs over the Raiders? Just because of the quarterback? Yeah. How about you? I mean, look, offensive line,

I give the edge to the Chiefs. Quarterback, I give the edge to the Chiefs. The tight end equation is close. It's obviously in favor of the Chiefs, but you can't down Gray Waller that much. Actually, I forgot there's another element here. I'm sorry. I thought you were done. Go ahead and finish up.

No, everything else is the Raiders. Do you think Clyde Edwards-Ziller gets a big boost here? Big boost? I mean, it's hard to say, but so far this offseason has been good for him. You haven't brought anybody in yet.

You're looking at Clyde versus Chase Edmonds, PPR. I take Clyde, but they're almost back-to-back for me at this point. But yeah, I mean, I probably don't have Clyde ranked high enough

compared to what he should be able to do. I'll adjust that. I feel like he's a steal right now the way I've seen our drafts play out. He's not saying he's great, but to get the starting running back, a starting running back for any team

would be great for it to be the Chiefs would also be good and hopefully this gets him to catch a few more passes. All right, Jamie, thank you for this 30-minute bonus pod. We could go another 30, I'm sure, but we've got another episode coming for you tomorrow at 10 a.m.

Eastern. We will talk to you then. Heath is happy right now. Heath is not happy. Because he said he was emotionally invested in the Juju Schuster signing because he's also a Juju guy. And now Tyreek Hill is gone. I think this feels

like... This is a silly, this is a crazy thing to say, but the Chiefs have gone from winning the Super Bowl to losing the Super Bowl to losing in the AFC Championship game, and now they are going to lose Tyreek Hill. Kelsey is getting up there in age. Who knows how long Andy Reid will be around

to coach? I don't know. I mean, does it feel like the end of a dynasty that never really started? Did they already peak, even though they have Mahomes locked up forever? Probably not. I posted a poll. What's been more fun, the NFL season or the NFL offseason? The offseason, obviously, it's a little recency bias,

but running away, when I last looked, it was 800 votes. It was 82% in favor of offseason. Well, that's stupid, Jamie, because we actually just had the greatest NFL season that we've ever had. And we're having the greatest offseason. That is true. That is true. It was an amazing season. But somebody replied to it and

said, the Chiefs playoff run was awesome because of the Bills game, but this is worse than losing to the Bengals in the championship game. Yeah, this is really, you know, it's not exactly franchise altering, but it cannot really replace Tyreek Hill. Well, I mean, the Packers too. You know, you're taking away.

And look, you take a step back to have to pay a 28-year-old receiver $120 million, $72 million guaranteed. That hamstrings your franchise. That's a, we're ready to go win a Super Bowl move by the Dolphins. And I don't think they're ready to do that. Raiders, same thing. They made a move to get Devonta Adams, who's 29, franchise-altering financial situation but the flip side of that is if you use the capital you get returned the right way which you're trusting the chiefs front office to do so and let's keep

in mind that they were the ones that got Patrick Mahomes not the first overall pick they were the ones that got Tyree Kill not a first round pick you know they're the ones that took a chance on Travis Kelsey made him into what he is you know they're the ones that took a chance on travis kelsey made him into what he is you know so this is a franchise that has found certainly diamonds in the rough and made them superstars and so to your point andy reed if he hangs it up okay maybe eric v enemy is the same type of guy to whatever degree there's a decline but the hope would be and this is what the chiefs i, are banking on, Mahomes is going to make whoever's around him

that much better, and we'll find out. And they have so much draft capital, they could trade up and take any wide receiver they want. And perhaps the dynasty landscape gets shaken up and our drafts get more fun if they trade up and the, and our drafts, you know, get more fun. If they trade up and take, you know, their favorite wide receiver and whichever one,

whichever rookie goes to the chiefs in the first round, if that does happen, uh, what could be really exciting. All right. Let me give you another scenario. Quick. Garrett Wilson to the chiefs or Drake London to the Packers.

Who are you taking first? Oh, Wilson. How about you? I'm taking Wilson first also, but what if it's flipped? I really like Wilson. I can't really say I know much about London.

Obviously, I know him, but I think the Packers are just going to... The Packers can fall back on their two-headed monster running game. The Chiefs really can't. They can fall back on their two-headed monster running game. The Chiefs really can't. So I think... They can fall back on Travis Kelsey, though. Sure.

I just think that the Chiefs have to throw the ball, and the Packers... The Chiefs are probably going to throw for 700 more yards than the Packers, so I'll take the guy who goes to the Chiefs. Yeah. All right, man. Thanks for your time. I like your shirt, by the way.

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