Fantasy Football Today - Updated Breakouts! How Early is Too Early for These Guys? (05/13 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: May 13, 2024

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts Heath and Jamey give us a list of 2024 breakout candidates and talk about how much the quality of a team's offense matters, and we play "Breakout Trivia" (3:10) comparing the stats and profiles of three breakouts. You can get one of them much later than the other two. Also, why was De'Von Achane removed from Jamey's breakouts list (16:35)? ... News and notes (18:50) and then Jamey gives his breakouts at quarterback (22:35), running back (27:05), wide receiver (32:00) and tight end (38:30). Is Zamir White talented enough to be drafted in Round 5? Can Chris Olave really break out, or have we basically seen the best of him? Does Kyle Pitts present better value than Drake London? ... On to Heath's breakouts list (45:15), Javonte Williams and Tank Dell could be somewhat controversial! We'll talk extensively about those two guys and more ... Your emails at [e-mail] SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. And we are talking breakouts, potential league winners here on fantasy football today. What has changed since the NFL draft? Maybe not much. Well, I'll tell you this.

Devon A. Chan was in Jamie's breakouts list. Now he's out. I'm going to ask Jamie about that. I'm going to grill him on that. Happy belated Mother's Day to everybody out there. I hope everybody had a great weekend. Heath and Jamie are here. No Dave today.

I want to know, guys, how much, when you look at your breakouts list, how much do you value how good you perceive that player's offense to be in 2024? I think for me, in the case of like Drake London, better offense, just because of the better quarterback. Obviously, different play caller as well, but mostly just because there's a quarterback upgrade. So that has to be taken into account. You know, I don't think you want to attach, uh, someone to be significantly attached the, the breakout, um, category to somebody to be significantly better if their offense is going to stink, you know? So, um, there there's, there's clearly examples of

that and, and there's potential still for players that are on bad offenses to have breakout breakout seasons but you obviously would like to have the scoring potential be a part of that and if the scoring potential is not there i don't think you can expect them to be significantly better than they may have been coming into the year yeah the only player that on the list that you guys gave that i look at and go i don't know about this offense would be zamir white and that was jamie's breakout i think I had one too. Javante Williams. Yes. Sorry.

Yes. Yeah. Looking at those two guys. So does that factor in? And here's the thing. You know, who was who were last year's breakouts? Well, Nico Collins was clearly one. Did we think the Texans had any chance of having that good of an offense?

No. Brees Hall. Would you call him? Would you call Brees Hall breakout last year? One hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. He was RB six per game in PPR he was RB2 overall but he averaged 17 points per game that's really good we're hoping for even more this year they were terrible they were 29th in scoring so so one example is an offense that was just better than we thought the other is a guy who had a breakout season on a bad offense but yeah Heath, Heath, you can talk about this angle.

I think Jamie mostly said it right. You don't want to be relying too much on bad offenses, but specifically with Javante Williams, I'm hoping that he's going to be more involved in the passing game in that Sean Payton offense. And a pass catching back on a bad offense can still be a very good breakout. Jamie with Zamir White, we right now think he's going to be pretty much a feature back. a pass catching back on a bad offense can still be a very good breakout. Jamie was the mirror white. We right now think he's going to be a pretty much a feature back.

And so a guy that's touching the ball 20 times a game on a bad offense can still be a, and they might be a unique bad offense paired with a good defense that at least keeps them in games, which keeps him touching the football. Have you guys ever played breakout trivia? No, I guess we're about to, you're about to you guys ever played breakout trivia? No. I guess we're about to.

You're about to. Here's how breakout trivia works. I'm going to give you questions. Actually, this is really not a properly named, it's not even trivia. It's just breakout stats, facts. It's really only because it's about these breakouts. So this is a bus segment,

but no, I'm going to give you, it's breakout comparison. I'm going to compare three players, okay? Yeah. And I think you guys are going to pretty easily know who it is. But don't say anything, just so the listeners can try to take in this information. These three players are on either one or both of your breakout lists. Player A, player B, player C. I'm only going to compare the last two seasons for these players.

They've all played 33 or 34 games. They're all wide receivers. Player A, I'll round up or down. 2,100 yards. Player B, 1,800. Player C, 1,900. Player A, seven touchdowns. Player B, six touchdowns. Player A, seven touchdowns. Player B, six touchdowns.

Player C, 10 touchdowns. Player A and Player B, 12.1 to 12.6 yards per catch. Player C, 16.9 yards per catch. Player C has the most 100-yard games. He also has the most games of fewer than 30 yards. What kind of offenses were they on? Player A's offense over the last two years has averaged 218 passing yards per game, 26 touchdowns in 34 games. Gross. Player B, only 197 passing yards

per game, 34 touchdowns in 34 games. Player C, 208 yards per game, 25 touchdowns. Slightly worse than player A in two seasons in 34 games. Player A went 12th in our most recent mock draft. Player B went 19th. Player C went 59th. Who am I talking about? Garrett Wilson, Drake London, and George Pickens. Correct.

George Pickens has been, I think on paper, if you look at the last two seasons, the best player. I mean, he makes big plays. The other guys really don't. Yards per catch, he absolutely crushes them. Yak per catch. His rookie year was actually terrible. Last year, 6.2 yards after the catch per catch. His rookie year was actually terrible. Last year, 6.2 yards after the catch per catch.

That's dwarfed anything that Wilson and London have done. And then they're all getting upgrades offensively, you think, but I just find it interesting that he's thought of differently. I think it's because of draft capital in the NFL draft. So differently he's thought of.

Well, I think, well, I think the interesting thing is that quarterback upgrade. Um, like if we'd have looked at it two years and said, one of these guys is getting Aaron Rogers. One is getting Kirk cousins. One is getting Russell Wilson. Oh,

he felt pretty awesome about all those guys. Now the, the, the, the interesting thing is we saw Wilson be bad, and we saw Rodgers and Cousins suffer catastrophic injuries, and now there is more of an expectation that the guys coming off injuries are just going to be awesome again, and the guy that was bad is going to stay bad. I think I have Pickens

and London very, very close. I do have Wilson separate. And I do think that Wilson is the best wide receiver of the three. I actually have Pickens ahead of London. Oh, wow. I do think that they should be closer than one going 19 and one going 58. And that should significantly change. I like George Pickens

near the 3-4 turn. Somewhere in the top 40. I do like London better. I think if you were to ask, if you were to poll most people, and you want to do a Twitter poll, you can, Twix poll. If they all had Patrick Mahomes, Oh, that's a good one.

who would be the best of the three? Let's do that. I don't know the right way to phrase it, but how good would they each be with Patrick Mahomes, for example? Okay. So I think the order would probably be the way that they're getting drafted based on draft capital. So clearly the NFL felt that Drake London was better than George Pickens

for whatever reason, whether it was his attitude or off-field situation. He barely played, right? He had a torn ACL. He just didn't have a lot of experience, George Pickens. And by all accounts, if I'm not mistaken, I could be wrong on this. I don't think he interviewed well when he went through the pre-draft process.

But I could be wrong on that, so I apologize if that's the case. In any event, I think that the thing that scares me a little bit about Pickens. And again, if you know, if you, you want to look at it, the Jets receiving core was upgraded. The Falcons receiving core was upgraded along with their quarterback situation. The Steelers receiving core was downgraded, you know, so there's potential for more targets and opportunity for George Pickens. The thing that's a little concerning, and you can sort of split this both ways

because DJ Moore was very good with Justin Fields last year. If Fields does take over, does that help Pickens or hurt Pickens? And there's the potential for that at some point during the season if Russell Wilson does struggle or they get off to a bad start. So there's also, you know, if you want to look at it, one guy lost Arthur Smith, One guy's getting Arthur Smith. Yeah, I know. Yeah, for sure.

That might not be a great thing. So I do think Pickens should be third. And I don't fault Heath for putting Pickens ahead of him because clearly the track record suggests that. But I know Heath likes Russell Wilson more than I do. So there's certainly, again, the gap should be closer. But I like it the way that it was drafted, and that's how I will have it ranked as well.

Here's a fun question. How would you rank the collection of quarterbacks that these three have played with the last two years? It's awful and laughable, but who had the best-slash-worst quarterbacks the past two years out of these guys? Well, that's what I was kind of trying to do. I mean, Garrett Wilson's quarterbacks

have averaged 218 yards per game over the last two seasons. Pickens, 208, and London, 197. So by that measure, they've thrown the ball more. I mean, the Jets had the 2022 season where they just threw the ball a ton, but he's had more yards. Touchdowns have been in London's favor.

34 touchdowns for the Falcons over the last two seasons, which is terrible. But 26 for the Jets, 25 for the Steelers. I would say that Pickens has had the worst quarterback play, personally. And also, he was the second fiddle, right? Like, he had Deontay Johnson on his team. That's the other thing. Like, these other guys led their teams and targets. So Flacco was the best quarterback that any of the three have played with in the last

two years. Well, I don't know that there's a right answer here, but I think London's had the worst quarterbacks. I mean, you just have to say pedigree, both Pickens and Wilson had a first round quarterback throwing them the ball. They were terrible. Yeah, but that doesn't really matter. They were terrible. Zach Wilson is probably the worst of the bunch. I don't know if he's worse than Mariota, though.

Man, this is some conversation. I mean, Ritter was terrible. This is not as exciting as if they all had Patrick Mahomes, who is the best. Garrett Wilson, by the way, has the early edge with 80% of the vote here. If they had Patrick Mahomes, who would be the best receiver? And that's the thing. I've got to take a break here. On the other side of the break, I just want to finish this discussion here.

I think the fantasy community, we kind of look at Garrett Wilson. We've seen the highlights. We know what he can do, even though it may not be there in the numbers. The guy is awesome. I'm going to ask you if you feel that way about Drake London when we come back. You make sure you listen to Fantasy Football Today Dynasty. You're getting two episodes per week.

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So, so, um, do you feel like, do you feel like Drake, uh, London is a stud is a star in the making? Yes.

I, I think so. I'm not, I don't have this. I mean, obviously based on how I i have it ranked i don't have the same level of confidence that with a good quarterback drake london turns into a top 10 wide receiver with garrett london or with wilson it just seems like a foregone conclusion if he just has good quarterback play he's a top 10 wide receiver i i think I would, I'm not saying Lennon's not, I'm just not as sure. Yeah. I,

I, I hope Kirk cousins is close to not peak her cousins, but just normal Kirk cousins, you know? So like what we've seen from him in his time with Minnesota, he's been able to support a receiver at a very high level, you know, and,

and the floor for his number one guy. And we know we had the, who's the number one between Thielen and Diggs, but through that stretch, it was 14 and a half PPR points was the floor with Diggs. And the high was obviously Justin Jefferson, you know, being, you know, over 21 points per game, you know? So I think you got to look at least the way I feel, I think he'll be somewhere in the middle, you know? So I think he'll be around 16, 17 points per game if he's legit. And Heath has the reason to question it. Totally understandable. Typically what we tend to see is some flashes of consistent performances, even if the quarterback situation is bad.

And look, London's had a pretty decent floor. He just hasn't had a big ceiling at all or a consistent ceiling at all during his first two years. And again, you could say bad quarterback, bad coordinator, just everything that's worked against him. But at some point, Garrett Wilson was able to make some plays his rookie season with some pretty crappy quarterbacks. And George Pickens has made some plays with pretty crappy quarterbacks. And London just hasn't done it, you know, more than a few times, handful of times.

So there is an if attached to it. But if that if becomes reality, he could be special, you know, and being a top 10 overall pick in the NFL draft two years ago and everything that he showed in college, he has that potential. Hopefully, it gets fulfilled. I think you've insinuated this, Adam. I think it's probably true. As a community, we're just kind of ignoring the risk

with Wilson and London. We believe in their talent. We're optimistic about their quarterbacks and we're just gonna hope that the the achilles thing's fine yeah exactly for 36 and 40 year old quarterbacks right yeah well i think you know at least and and understandably so they both have done their due diligence in finding some some capable backups you know whether it's you you believe can panic step in and still support these guys, or is it going to be more of the same? That's a fair question to ask because, you know, while he's an older rookie, if something

happens to cousins, are we back to the Ritter, Mariota, Heineke type of situation, or do they even go back to Heineke who's still on the roster? Uh, and for the jets, you know, to Rod Taylor, we've seen him have good moments with his receiving core. So if something happens to Rogers, is he the guy or is Jordan Travis? Do they turn to him in terms of is he healthy, ready to go? There's a lot of ifs with those situations, but you've got to feel a little bit better about the backups, at least right now,

based on what they had a year ago. I'm still really exploring the... It's easy to talk about big plays with running backs, but a breakout player is probably someone who's going to have to make some big plays. Drake London hasn't really done that. His yak is bad.

I don't know why. I don't know if that's going to change. But it's two years, especially last year, where there's terrible yak. Yak is very much connected to ADOT. But for him, it's like he should have more yak after he should have more yak with his a dot um all of that could change but it's just like a little concerning for me that he just hasn't done that much i mean drake london has been last year he was he has not been a top 40 wide receiver per game and i know he's had bad quarterbacks but that's my point like

so has pickens and pickens had an 1,100 yards. What did Pickens have last year? Did he have 1,100 yards? I don't think he had quite that much. No, yeah, he did, 1,140 yards and five touchdowns. I mean, he was able to do that because we know Pickens can be explosive, can make huge plays.

Haven't seen that from London. Hopefully that can change. Okay, so why did Jamie remove Devon Achan? You know, Jamie, I'm going to challenge you here with a text that you sent me. It was a tweet. Let me look at who sent it so I credit the right person here.

It was a tweet from... Frank Amiranti, a senior sports writer at TheGameDay.com, looking at all of the round three running backs over the last four seasons, rookies, and they've basically all been pretty irrelevant for fantasy. Almost none of them have averaged 10 or more PPR points per game. So why remove Devon Achan when the Dolphins drafted a running back in the third round? Why remove Achan from your breakouts list?

Because I was expecting him to take a leap forward, and he still might, but it's hard to expect him to take a leap forward when two guys are there potentially taking touches away, one of which, and I know Heath will be on board with this, that we keep dismissing a little bit too soon, in Raheem Mostert, you know, who, while he is 32, um, he comes back to the team. That's kind of, you know, embraced him a little bit with Mike McDaniel since he's taken over,

uh, leading the NFL and rushing touchdowns last year, tying Christian McCaffrey for most touchdowns at 21, that he's just not going to go away. And so my hope was that, okay, we start to see the younger player take a step forward. Well, now there's two guys there that may be taking a step forward with him, or another player might be taking a step forward with him while they're maybe phasing Raheem Mostert a little bit or keeping Mostert fresh because they feel they're a significant playoff contender. So where I was drafting A-Chain in round two, I'll still take him in the round four, five range because I still think there's plenty of upside there.

I just think the upside is a little bit capped. So I just don't put him in the breakouts category since they added another running back to now make it a potential three headed monster. I don't think this is a Jalen, right. Is taking over the backfield situation. No, this isn't,

Hey, Roshan Johnson is going to be the best bears running back or Kendra Miller is going to have a bigger foothold in the saints backfield type of conversation that we were having a year ago. This is more that there's a lot of mouths to feed on top of what they do as a passing offense that's going to hurt HN to become that type of star that I think he still can become, but it's just a little bit tougher to get there. Okay.

I've spent a lot of time talking about that, so let's move on here. News and notes. The Ravens and the Chiefs will open the season on Thursday night in Arrowhead Stadium before the Chiefs move to Dallas in future years and Heath has to figure out who he wants to root for. Why would I...

Why would the Chiefs move to Dallas and why would I stop cheering for them if they did? I don't know. There's this whole thing about the stadium and they might move. I think they're going to move across the state line probably. That's tough. So that's... Everybody stadium and they might move. Yeah. I think they're going to move across the state line. Probably. That's tough. So that's everybody already thinks they're in Kansas anyway, but you don't people from Missouri kind of dislike Kansas or no.

It's more. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. So you can't, I don't share. You can't. I grew up a Kansas Jayhawk fan.

So obviously it didn't bother me, but all right. Well, I'm saying Heath can't be a Chiefs fan if they move. Caleb Williams was named the starter, but Romo Dunze is missing rookie minicamp with hamstring tightness. Kirk Cousins nearly full go. Sam Darnold expected to begin the offseason program

as Minnesota's number one quarterback, according to ESPN. They're going to make the rookie J.J. McCarthy earn it. The Raiders started Aiden O'Connell. He took the first snap in their minicamp. So, over Minshew. You know, we'll see how this plays out. Aiden O'Connell in his last nine starts. He had a couple of cameos,

and then he got the starting job for nine games. He was on pace for 3,600 yards, 21 touchdowns, nine interceptions, almost nothing as a rusher. He took a lot of sacks. He's on pace for 3,600 yards, 21 touchdowns, nine interceptions, almost nothing as a rusher. He took a lot of sacks. He's not very mobile, completed 61.5% of his passes. But look, for a rookie, he wasn't terrible. Devontae Adams, in those nine games, he was on pace for 183 targets. So 11-ish per game, 10.5 per game. But not great production on those targets. 106 catches on 183 targets, 1,143 yards, nine touchdowns. Not bad.

And Jacoby Myers was a complete afterthought, basically, for Aiden O'Connell. Doug Peterson, head coach of the Jaguars, is still, he's not saying who's going to call plays in 2024. Never really told us who called plays in 2023. I am hoping that someone from San Francisco's coaching staff calls plays for them in 2025. I am so sick of this game that the Jaguars are playing. Rams GM Les Snead says the team does not want to totally run down Kyron Williams, so they might take some work off his plate.

Remember, they drafted Blake Corum in round three. The, okay, sorry. I put that the Jaguars signed Zay Jones, but they didn't. Who the hell signed Zay Jones? The Cardinals. The Cardinals, that's right. I'm sorry.

The Cardinals signed Zay Jones, and he's not that bad. Heath, does this matter? I think it's fun. Yeah. Good for Kyler. It maybe puts a little bit of pressure on, I guess, Michael Wilson. I guess, I can't imagine they're putting Zay Jones in the slot.

That's probably still going to be Dortch. I think it's good for Kyler. It's really all that matters. I think he walks in as the fourth receiver with a chance to be Dortch. I think it's good for Kyler. It's really all that matters. I think he walks in as the fourth receiver with a chance to be the two. Okay. The Texans acquired Ben Skoranek from the Rams, wide receiver.

Get a little depth there. The Chargers signed edge rusher Bud Dupree. The Saints signed offensive lineman Lucas Patrick. They had a really bad offensive line last year. They drafted Talese Fuaga in the first round to play tackle. And we will have two Christmas games on Wednesday. They could be on Netflix. So there you go.

More streaming services for you to subscribe to. Breakouts. Here we go. Jamie's breakouts. That quarterback, CJ Stroud and Anthony Richardson, two top five picks in the NFL draft in 2023. And they both had very good seasons with Richardson, you know, barely playing. But who do you like better in four point and six point per passing touchdown league, CJ Stroud or Anthony Richardson?

Richardson in four points, Stroud in six points. Heath, same to you. Yes, I have Stroud about a point per game better in six and Richardson about a half a point per game better in four. So in five points, I know you play in a lot of those leagues, I would lean towards Stroud. How are you guys doing in your eliminator leagues that we've been drafting, by the way?

Fantastic. how are those teams looking well love my team yeah shaky well it's uh it's it it's it's it's it's it's made to be difficult and a little bit painful so hopefully it is yeah 18 teams super super flex uh i have two punters in my first five picks oh i, I don't have any punters yet. I have three quarterbacks in my first three picks. Well, I would have probably preferred that, but I auto-picked twice, and I got two punters. Come on.

I didn't see... I'm more upset about it than anyone. I feel bad. That's on you, dude. It is on me. Have you been taken off of auto-pick yet, at least? I don't think I was for the second one, but yes, I have been taken off auto-pick. Okay, good.

I was pretty pissed off. It was my fault, but... I did get George Pickens with the 12th pick of round six in an 18-team league, so that felt pretty good. Nice. Round two, I had to decide between Aaron Rodgers and Brees Hall, and it was so painful to take Aaron Rodgers. Anyway, Jamie, with Stroud and Richardson,

any concerns about these guys? No, no. I think Stroud, you know, becomes a little bit more consistent, obviously has a chance to be top five quarterback. And Richardson, same thing. You know, I mean, you look at what he was able to do in the two healthy games that he played in his first five. He was pretty special.

Adding, you know, Mitchell at receiver receiver I think is going to help be an upgrade over Alec Pierce. And I think you'll see his ability to be dominant right away. Does anybody feel like C.J. Stroud, it was almost like, I'm specifically looking at the touchdown interception ratio, 20 touchdowns, five interceptions as a rookie that he could regress and disappoint this year. Like last year was almost too, I'm not saying I feel that way. I'm just bringing it up. That was too good last year. Peak too early. Um, I don't, I, I would expect if anything, the touchdowns to be a lot better in his second year. We've talked a lot on this show. That's something that rookie quarterbacks often struggle with.

I don't think he's probably going to take a leap in his yards per attempt. You probably just get what you got last year. But if he takes a leap this year, it's because he throws 35 touchdowns instead of 20. Yeah. And if you look at only the games in which Tank Dell played more than 50% of the snaps, there were eight of them. Stroud scored 20 or more points in six of those eight games.

Obviously, he had some huge games. And one of the games that he didn't, he scored 19.3 fantasy points. So that is a really nice floor whenever Tank Dell was healthy. Oh, by the way, they have Stephon Diggs. All right. Heath also has Anthony Richardson. I mean, I guess the one thing you can look at is

better run game. If Mixon's better than Singletary, which he should be. Should he? Should he be? Yes. Will he be? We'll see. Oh, I forgot that Devin Singletary's in the Giants now. No, I just think

that Joe Mixon is, I think based on his career, is the most overrated, might be the most overrated player in football. We just had the YPC talk last week. It's his whole career. Come on, we brought the tweet on specifically. His whole career. The guy, just, there's nothing.

Well, no, no, no. I'm not talking about fantasy football. Like, I get the value of Joe Mixon in fantasy football. I just don't think he's really that good of a running back um B. John Robinson took you one year in Detroit to come around on David Montgomery it'll take one year in Houston to come around on Joe Mixon why is Houston a better situation than Cincinnati I mean well they should have a Cincinnati's had an abysmal offensive line for almost the entirety of not abysmal not abysmal have you ever seen that friends episode where Joey doesn't know what abysmal means?

I'm sure I don't remember it, but I can see it now. Joey Truviani was abysmal. All right, B. John Robinson and Zemir White. Jamie, how surprised would you be if B. John Robinson scored more fantasy points per game than any non-quarterback this year? Any non-quarterback?

Yeah, basically the most valuable player in fantasy, the highest scoring non-quarterback this year? Any non-quarterback? Yeah, basically the most valuable player in fantasy, the highest scoring non-quarterback, B. John Robinson. Yeah, I can see it. I mean, look, he's entering year two. He showed plenty of flashes in year one that he could be special. I think the removal of Arthur Smith, better passing game, hopefully more involved in the passing game, will help. They're certainly going to score more touchdowns and give them more touchdown opportunities.

So can he be better than McCaffrey and Brees Hall who are going to be, I think the two guys drafted ahead of him? Sure. I mean, you know, McCaffrey at his age, a little bit of a tail off, a lot of work to the 49er scale back a little bit. Brees Hall, they added two running backs in the draft. You know, are they trying to make sure he's a hundred percent, you know, getting them to potential postseason run? Yeah, I can see Bijan being better than those two guys. And you look at the receivers, I mean, we certainly see last year a running back can be better than receivers if things go right.

So it's a big ask, but yes, he has the potential to do that. And you guys are comfortable with Bijan Robinson as early as blank overall in, let's say, a half PPR league. Six. Six for Jamie. What'd you say, Heath? Three? Three. The only way I would take him third is in non-PPR. He went seventh in the draft

we did last week, half PPR. Alright, let's talk about Zamir White. You have Garrett Wilson, Drake London, George Pickens. We're gonna skip them. You have Zamir White, you have Chris Olave, and then a couple of tight ends. And I think we're going to get some pushback from Heathon Olave, I think. But let's talk about Zemir White here.

And, you know, do you see any legitimate threat to his role from Alexander Madison? And I will say Zemir White went went about 50 i think he went 53rd overall he went in the middle of round five in our 12 team half ppr league last week is there any threat sure i mean you have an established guy coming in that that um may impress the coaching staff clearly he was a failure as a lead running back but he's had some great moments as a secondary guy and it may not be strictly a replacement option but it could be situation but he's had some great moments as a secondary guy. And it may not be strictly a replacement option, but it could be situation where he's off the field in terms of

White more than we're hoping for. You know, like I said, when he said it, I was a little bit like taken aback, but it makes a lot of sense that Zemir White could be one of the leaders and carries this season based on how he was used last year and how this offense operates. If he's not getting all that work, I don't think he's going to be a star in the passing game. He showed last season at the end of that four-game stretch that he can be a three-to-five catch guy consistently, which is not a big ask, which would certainly help his overall outlook. But then you add Derek, how are we saying it now? Lobby? Dylan Lobby. Dylan Lobby. I said Derek, I'm sorry. Butcher his name all over the place. It's pronounced Dylan, yeah. Dylan.

That, you know, he can be the pass-catching back there and that Madison takes on too much of the rushing downs work away from Zemir White. And then we're talking about trap back and a potential bad offense, not scoring touchdowns. It could be awful. So I think you just have to rate him appropriately, you know, a number two running back. But when we start to get into the Najee Harris, DeAndre Swift, Jonathan Brooks being injured, you know, that range of backs,

he makes a lot of sense to be at near the top of that group based on even the four game sample size. And I know, Adam, you're going to say we saw this with Madison. We saw this with these guys before backups that have sat on the bench for a long time. And then they come in and all of a sudden they look good and then they just don't, you know, pan out over the course of a full season. But given what the Raiders backfield looks like right now and what he showed, I'll buy into that for, you know, around five pick. Yeah. I think that people could look at, at Zamir white and say, well, this guy is one of those players who I don't know that you can say he's not that good.

We just don't know. But he might not be that good. And he's getting this huge opportunity. And then we're always going to go back to Mike Davis and... Madison. Yeah, who's the Dolphins guy that year? Sorry, Mike Davis and Miles Gaskin. And then updated with Alexander Madison last year.

And I think I would love to... I may be splitting hairs here, but I'd love to get Samir White in round six. Round five, look at the running backs he went with. Joe Mixon, David Montgomery, Samir White, Aaron Jones. Jamie took Mixon, I took Montgomery, and then you get Samir White to RJ. And Joey Wright took Aaron Jones.

Do you think he belongs in that group, guys? I think I like him better than anybody in that group. I like him much more than Mixon. I'm sorry, I like Mixon much more than White, but he's in the conversation with the other guys. Montgomery and Aaron Jones. I didn't hear Mixon. I do have Mixon ahead of him okay

okay then we'll go to Chris Olave Heath is this one you're going to disagree with Chris Olave as a breakout I mean not with a great deal of enthusiasm but I think you have to make a different case obviously for Olave than you do

London, Wilson, or Pickens because there's not been the quarterback upgrade. Yeah. Has there been? Do you feel confident in the offense upgrade, though, bringing in Kubiak, who comes from the San Francisco offense, which seems to be, and he's been around, but seems to be the way to instantly improve your offenses

to bring someone from the 49ers staff. Do you buy that? I don't know how that's going to work with Olave's skill set. Like he's there, if it's a San Francisco type scheme or more short area targets, he's been more of the downfield guy and not the yak guy at all. So I'm not saying I'm not anti it. I think it's interesting and it opens up more of a wide range of

possibilities because at least the offense is changing. But if they go run heavy and most of their targets are eight to 10 yards, I don't think that's going to be particularly good for a lobby. All right, Jamie, what's the case? I mean, really lack of competition for targets, you know, more so than ever before.

Uh, I believe in his talent. I believe in his special player. And while Derek Carr may not be the type of quarterback to unleash in or unlock that potential. Uh, I mean, we've seen him perform at a high level with a couple of different quarterbacks, you know, throughout his, you know, three years in the NFL so far. So, um, I do think that the offense will benefit him. I think this comes down to, you know, play calling and scheme, putting him in positions to succeed and have, have that type of, you know, opportunities to take some short passes and, and, you know, really open things up for his game. So yeah, I'll buy into it for sure. You know, so does he,

does he belong in that round two range? I think that's where the debate should come into play. You know, is, is he better than Pittman and Evans and, uh, the 49ers guys, Nico Collins, you can make a case for, for those guys ahead of him, but, you know, just looking at how this team, I think is going to have to perform, you know, especially if something happens to an aging Alvin Kamara, then there's not a lot of help, I think, for Derek Carr. So he could be among the league leaders and targets this year. He's kind of – okay. I think I've made this comparison before.

He reminds me of Terry McLaurin. And the big issue, I think, for McLaurin has been touchdowns. And the big issue for Olave has been touchdowns. He has nine touchdowns. the big issue for Olave has been touchdowns. He has nine touchdowns. And Carr. Yeah. Carr's best seasons weren't as great as they could have been because it was generally around a 4% touchdown rate.

Nine touchdowns in 31 games and only, how many, he has like, he has 21 red zone targets and eight green zone targets, I think, in two seasons. So I hope that changes Heath. I don't know that it might be just that his profile, like McLaurin, is a downfield kind of higher ADOT guy. And if he's going to score touchdowns, he's probably going to need to make big plays like Mike Evans or have better quarterback players, because I just don't know that he's going to get a lot of like, oh, here's an eight

yard touchdown pass to Chris Olave. Right. And I think that there's going to be a lot more eight yard passes in New Orleans this year than there have been in the past. Hey, hopefully those go to him and he shows that he can do that. Maybe. Right. I don't, it's tough.

I don't want to pigeonhole a guy into being this type of player after only two seasons. Right. And I think like that, believe in his talent. He's a third year wide receiver. There's an offensive change. I think that's a good enough case for a breakout. I just don't, there's enough wide receivers.

I'd rather bet on over him. All right. So let's play Chris Olave or Mike Evans. Evans. Olave. Debo Samuel. Olave. Drake London London

Nico Collins Olave Nico Alright that'll do Well let's see let's go a little further I know the answer will be Olave for Jamie But Jalen Waddle Waddle

Olave Alright Then let's talk about a couple of tight end breakouts here. After this quick break, I know one of them will be a breakout for Heath. I don't know if he will agree on both of them. We're going to take a break and talk about two tight end breakouts. Remember, Jamie also had those three receivers, Garrett Wilson, Drake London, George Pickens, as wide receiver breakouts. You can listen to the very enthralling breakout trivia segment from earlier on in the show.

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Yeah. It was a good run. Don't tell Shania. She'll make fun of me. Let's check in on the Twitter poll real quick. If they all had Patrick Mahomes as their quarterback, who would be the best wide receiver? Right now,

I have 462 votes. Garrett Wilson has 79.5% of them. But yeah, I think who's going to come in second? Who do you think? London or Pickens?

London. I would think that London is second. Correct. 12.9%. Pickens, 7.4%. And if you're like, hey, that math doesn't add up, well, now Garrett Wilson's up to 79.7%.

All right, tight end breakouts. Dalton Kincaid, he is on Heath's list. And Kyle Pitts, not on Heath's list that he sent to me. Does that mean that you do not consider this a breakout, that you do not think he should be on a breakout as Kyle Pitts? I have them projected very similarly. The difference for me, like if Dalton Kincaid had Kyle Pitts' 1,000-yard rookie season,

I would not have Dalton Kincaid as a breakout. So it's just the fact that Pitts has already done so much more than Kincaid has, but I think they're both excellent breakout candidates. What did he fit? I think Pitts was something like 12 per game, 12 per game as a rookie with because he only had two touchdowns right maybe one one touchdown right so you know doesn't he still belong in the breakout do you think he's going to finish top eight heath i think he has if like he's right in that range i might have him ninth right now but so maybe that's a breakout.

Okay. Jamie, talk about these guys, pits and Kincaid. Kincaid is relatively easy. I mean, you know, you look at what the bills have done or maybe have not done to enhance the

receiving core, you know, losing Stefan digs and, you know, bringing in Keon Coleman, who hopefully we'll have a big rookie season, but you know, Kincaid has an opportunity here to lead the team and targets and certainly should be in the top two if things go right for him. You look at what he

did last year when Dawson Knox was missing in the middle of the season, then when Gabe Davis was missing at the end of the season, and he became a go-to option for Josh Allen. And I think that will be the case continuing into his second year. So love the upside for him. I feel like even at five, he's a little bit too low. He definitely has a chance to be a top three tight end this year. If the touchdowns follow what should be catches and plenty of yards in terms of Kyle pits. I think, you know, we, we saw the highs as a rookie, you know, where he was featured with a veteran quarterback. And then we saw some struggles with some terrible quarterback play. So going from Matt Ryan, even while he was not very good in pits, his rookie season to what he's had to deal with the last two years, you can understand why he struggled, and same thing

why Drake London has struggled. So, again, there's a lot of mouths to feed now in this Falcons offense because of what London and Bijan should be able to do based on what the coaching staff has said. And then on top of the fact that they bring in, you know, Darnell Mooney, they bring in, why am I forgetting the second guy that they brought in? Rondell? Oh, yeah, Rondell Moore. Excuse me.

So more targets that should perform in that second and third tier of pass catchers, does that hurt somebody like Pitts more so than it hurts London or maybe even the running backs out of the backfield? But I'm banking on Kirk Cousins unleashing the potential of what Kyle Pitts has to offer, and we know we've said this since he was drafted. He's a unicorn. He could be a special type of talent. So I'm i'm more hopeful than than saying this will happen that will happen this is you know guaranteed to to be the case we saw some pretty two different areas i

think that will benefit pits when kirk cousins didn't have an elite level tight end he used that player as a red zone threat you know so whether it was kyle rudolph to irv smith um you, pre TJ Hawkinson, he likes to throw to his tight ends in the red zone. Then he gets Hawkinson and we see this massive season from him, you know, or at least on the way to a massive season before both guys got hurt. So I'm, I'm hopeful that those two, those two scenarios sort of marry each other. And we see Kyle Pitts find the end zone seven plus times, and he gets back to close to a thousand yard season and he could be 65 to 75 catches. That's going to be a top five tight end.

I think we had a question in the chat from way early in the show about both London and pits being breakouts. And we've actually got Bijan as a breakout too. Yeah. I'm not sure that I believe that all three of them can break out. I don't know. I, what's that?

I do. I do that. Well, I do because they haven't really been that good. They've been very disappointing so far. I mean, like I said, London hasn't finished inside the top 40 per game. But you don't quite. We've had this argument many times.

I'm usually on the other side. But if he goes and finishes as wide receiver 30, you're not going to call that a breakout. No, it's not. It's not a breakout. Right. So how bad they've been doesn't necessarily... They could all have career years. Okay, so let's define what do you think they need to be.

Dijon Robinson is a top three running back. Kyle Pitts is a top four or five tight end. Drake London is a top 12 wide receiver. It seems like one of those has to give. It feels a little bit like Dalvin Cook, Adam Thielen, Stefan Dix. Right? Dalvin Cook was a superstar, those has to give it feels a little bit like dalvin cook adam phelan stefan dicks right you know dalvin cook was a superstar and then obviously you have two wide receivers or you don't even have a tight end that's that's the thing about the tight end right is that the bar is so low

for him to be even fifth best he could have 900 yards six touchdowns well that that's the other thing i was going to bring up is the guy with both Kincaid and Pitts that I really struggle with that I think has so much more floor, but it seems like Kincaid and Pitts have more upside is Evan Ingram. But it's also hard for me to say that those guys have more upside than Evan Ingram when he might see like 140 targets or 160 targets. I would take Ingram over Pitts. I'm banking on Kincaid taking a huge step forward. Ingram was a tight end two last year. Ingram, in full PPR, because he had 114 catches, he averages as many points per game as Sam Laporta, Evan Ingram.

And they were tied for tight end three per game. And his situation did not get any worse. I don't care about Ryan Thomas' addition. Yeah, it might got better. So here's the thing about Pitts and London, right? I don't really see a justification for taking Drake London three or four rounds earlier than Kyle Pitts. I mean, I was saying this last year with Chris.

If I want a piece of the Falcons' offense, I'm just going to wait and take Kyle Pitts. Truthfully, I think London and pits were both bad picks last year, probably pits even worse. Cause he was so bad, you know, and, and so hurt.

He just was hurt. He even said it himself, but if you want a piece of the Falcons offense and Drake, London is too rich for your blood. If he's going to end up in the second round, maybe even early third, then shouldn't you just wait and take Kyle Pitts? Yes, that's how you feel.

Yeah. I mean, how many rounds do you think should separate those two guys? Should or will? Both. Pitts is going to be a little polarizing depending on how tight ends get drafted in your league. Because if the top four guys don't start coming off the board until round three, which I think is what we'll start to see, Laporta, Kelsey, Andrews, McBride. I don't even know if McBride goes that high, but those other three guys might.

Then there'll be a little bit of a separation, and then that's when we'll start to see Kininkade ingram pitts kittle um maybe no joku you know those guys start to go ingram those guys start to go we may not see them until round seven or eight at the earliest so i'd say two two rounds should separate them and it's possible i think we're gonna see london go the latest round three yeah all right heath's breakouts thankfully we do have a little overlap here. Anthony Richardson, Bijan Robinson, Garrett Wilson, Dalton Kincaid. They are.

Is there anything you want to add about those guys? No, I think we covered them. OK, so we've got Javante Williams, Marvin Harrison, Tank Dell. That's so interesting. Tank Dell. But let's start with Javante here with the breakout. OK, go ahead. Make the case for Javante Williams. Before you do that, let me just tell you where he went in our most recent draft.

He went in the eighth round, the third pick of the eighth round, just ahead of Trey Benson and Ezekiel Elliott and Zach Moss. Go ahead on Javante. I don't generally like pass-catching running backs or running backs catching passes from rookie quarterbacks, but Bo Nix was tailor-made to play in the Sean Payton offense and throw the ball three yards over and over and over again. They do have a lot of running backs in Denver. I like Jaleel McLaughlin. They just brought in somebody else in the draft, but I still think Javante Williams, when he's right, is pretty easily the most talented running back in that backfield. And while Sean Payton has divided things up a lot, like we've seen a committee that often includes three guys,

the number one running back in Denver or in a Sean Payton offense has generally been a pretty attractive thing to have. I'm banking on the fact that Williams wasn't fully himself coming off the ACL last year, just like we said he wasn't going to be last summer, and that he will be himself this year. And I think he could push to be a top 12 running back. I don't disagree with most of what he said. The last part is going to be a big leap for him to get there, but it would be fun to see. The thing that concerns me is that this is a guy that he inherited, and he's brought in three other guys to maybe challenge for the job.

And that's my biggest concern with the situation, is that could Estime or even McLaughlin push him on running downs? Could Estime, McLaughlin, and P. Ryan push him on the non-obvious passing downs? This is where Javante Williams made most of his production in the passing game. And so is he going to be the goal line back? Is that going to be estimate? Who's a big physical presence as well.

You know, so I I'm still hopeful that Javante is the best guy. I won't put him in a breakout category, but it wouldn't surprise me if he does have the type of season that Heath is projecting. I think top 12 would be a big stretch. But I do think that there's also the risk of he struggles in some capacity, whether it's route running or not hitting the hole the way that Peyton wants him to, or pass protection, and he may not see the field for a stretch.

And that could be part of a game or games If he feels like these other guys are still there. And there's also the chance that one of the two, I would guess at this point is McLaughlin or P Ryan, not on the roster, whether it's being cut or traded. I'd be surprised if it's McLaughlin at this point. Yeah. I would assume P Ryan would probably be that guy,

but they also like Blake Watson is an undrafted free agent that they signed. So it just feels like there's just been a lot of guys into, you know, compete for something. And it could be, here's four guys that I brought in. And here's one guy that I inherited. Would you guys take Zeke or Zach Moss ahead of Javante Williams?

No, I'm not. I'm not. Yes. Zeke. No, especially after, I don't know if you saw the news out of my, I think it was, uh, I don't know if you said it in news and notes that, uh, Zeke in news notes, that McCarthy said the Cowboys are going to go running back by committee. No, I did not say that. The snippet that I saw was that Zeke will still be the lead guy,

but it's not going to be the same thing as what Zeke had the last time he was here. Yeah. All right. So how about Marvin Harrison and Tank Dell? Marvin Harrison's been a top 16 pick in each of the two drafts we've done since the draft. Tank Dell really fell to the middle. Ooh, I like the rhyme there.

Tank Dell fell to the fifth pick of round six, 65th overall in the draft that we did last week. All right. How is tank Dell going to break out? Did you see the exceptionally good clip of CJ Stroud, like breaking down, putting together his ideal offense and then the play they were going to run and a must win situation.

It was an outstanding clip that I shared on Twitter, and he was just picking the best players at every position to put on his offense. There was only one wide receiver that he chose from his own team, and it was Tank Dell. I mean, this was the guy that C.J. Stroud said, go draft this guy after they drafted him. I think Tank Dell is the future wide receiver one in this offense, and he might be the wide receiver one this year.

I have it ranked right now, Nico, then Tank, then Diggs, but I would not be surprised at all if Tank is the wide receiver one this year. Why didn't you take him, Heath? Let's see. Would you take over him? I think I had

to pick first, so I would have to take him with the first pick in the third round and that seemed a little early you could have taken him at the 4-5 turn you took Calvin Ridley and Trey McBride I thought you said he went in the 4th no he went in the 6th tank down I remember

I should have taken him that's okay would you have taken him over It's my bet. That's okay. Would you have taken him over Ridley or McBride? That was, it would be McBride. I like Ridley a lot this year too. Okay. So Tank Dell, Jamie, you think he can break out now with Diggs there?

He definitely can. But I think the problem is, and we talked about this when they brought in stefan digs in the trade that it's very difficult for three receivers to be top 24 options so who's going to be the one that fails now injury plays a part in this you know so digs in his early 30s if he gets hurt that makes a lot of sense nico collins has had an injury track record in his first two seasons and battled some stuff last year. To me, it feels like Dell is probably going to be the one that suffers a little bit. Now, I don't think that means he's going to be bad. He's still a top 30 receiver for me.

But you throw in Joe Mixon, you throw in Dalton Schultz, there's just a lot of mouths to feed here. And so I agree with what he said. Is he the future number one guy there? Sure. With Diggs, most likely gone after this year unless everybody just falls in love with him and he falls in love with the situation and they decide to extend him.

Nico's got at least one more year. But you think if you had to take a guess who's the number one in two years in Houston, do you think it's Nico or Dell? In two years, Dell. Dell. Yeah. That's interesting. Okay.

But for 2024, he's third for me. I just think that Diggs is going to be on a mission to prove something that he wasn't the reason that Bill struggled, and he could still be a significant playmaker. And Nico, I think, is still the guy based on how they'll use him,

where he'll line up, how he'll perform. I'm just a little bit concerned that Dell will be taking a little bit of a step back. I do think it's worth noting, and I know Nico played with bad quarterbacks early in his career, but Tank Dell played like nine and a half games last year and had 250 more yards than Nico Collins had in his first or second season and four more touchdowns than Nico had in his first two seasons combined. Oh,

I mean, yes, he should have a better start to his career, but yeah, that doesn't necessarily mean he'll be better in 2024. Uh, they had very, very similar stats in the seven games

that they both played more than 50% of the snaps. And that's where I might be wrong, too. If I have a first-year and a third-year wide receiver on the same team, and when they play together, they put up similar numbers, I'm going to generally expect that the first-year guy is going to be better in year two. And that's not always right. Like, Nico's not old by any means. But they're both going to generally expect that the first year guy is going to be better in year two. And that's not always right. Like Nico is not old by any means,

but they're, they're both going to suffer. I mean, you know, they, they brought in the guy who might be the, you know, like we keep saying,

like, you know, tank's the best and Nico's the best. I mean, you know, Stefan Diggs is certainly more proven than both those guys. He's played with crappy quarterbacks. He's played with good quarterbacks,

you know? And so we may just be overlooking Stefan Diggs. Could be. Yeah. Yeah. I think, you know, for think for Dell, what I don't love, just in terms of him becoming a true number one, is he had a 14-yard ADOT last year. But that could change.

Now, that kind of benefits him in the sense that Dell, that Collins and Diggs, if Dell stays as a high ADOT guy, Collins and Diggs might sort of place in similar areas of the field and Dell would have sort of a unique role. But I think you'd want to see that ADOT come down. And it was much lower than that in college. So I don't want to say that he's just a deep guy, but I don't think, I don't think most players can be a true number one with a 14-yard ADOT, personally.

That's pretty much just Mike Evans. Yeah. I was just thinking, though, at the beginning of the show, what's George Pickens' ADOT? Yeah, it's a concern of mine. I think it's been 14.3 and 15.3.

You know what? 14. 15 is a big red flag. That's basically Mike Evans. 14, I don't know. I guess you can get there. But I think like when I was going back and forth before the Diggs acquisition of Dell versus Collins, I liked Nico Collins' profile better.

If we removed the year one versus year three thing, it's a huge deal. I mean, I get that. But I liked the year one versus year three thing, it's a huge deal. I mean, I get that, but I like the fact that Nico Collins had a bet to me, like a more consistent producing a dot. And he had 10 red zone target in those games, just those games where they both played more than 50% of the snaps. Nico had 10 red zone targets. Tank Dell had three. Uh, Nico had four green zone targets. Tank Dell had one. They had similar amount of end zone targets because that could be a 40-yard throw into the end zone. But I liked that about Nico.

I thought that his profile looked like that of a more reliable, consistent player. But I've seen it so many times where a player's profile in terms of ADOT and red zone, that can change so much from year one to year two. Just go look at Devante Smith and Jalen Waddell, for example. Big differences in what we saw from them in terms of just the routes they were running, how far downfield they were being targeted, those types of things.

Well, things changed dramatically for both of them. In what regard? Like new offense? A.J. Brown and Tyreek Hill. Yes, that is true. Did they also get new coaches? No, not. Devante Smith did not. Did they also get new coaches? No, not. Devontae Smith did not.

Waddle did, right? And Waddle did not. Waddle did not? He had McDaniel as a rookie? No, he did. Okay. All right, and then is there anything you want to say about Marvin Harrison? I think there's a significantly

good chance that he is the best wide receiver that we talk about on today's show. I have him projected for two points fewer than Garrett Wilson. I have him ahead of everyone else. He might come in and just see 10 targets a game as a rookie with a quarterback that we know is pretty good.

I don't think you can rank Marvin Harris in two high. Number one. That might be too high. This email. We got some emails. Fantasyfootball.cbs.com. This one is from Eric.

He said, where would you rank last year's receivers compared to this year's if they were all included in the rookie draft? Last year's rookie receivers? Yeah, Addison, JSN, Rice, and Flowers. last year's rookie receivers yeah addison jsn rice and flowers so he's i don't know that he's including like tank dell and puka nakua do we include do we have the knowledge that we have now about what they did last year or is or is this basically ranking them as prospects with versus prospects you know i would say is i'm going to go ahead and pull up the startup mock draft that we did last week. The one QB startup mock draft

and see where they all went. Harrison went first, right? I'm guessing it was Harrison, then Puka. Let me see if I can find it real quick. I have it Harrison, then Puka, then neighbors. So we're doing it based on the knowledge of how they perform. Yes.

I would go Harrison, Puka, neighbors, Dell, but dunes, a let's see how they went. All right.

Harrison went with the fifth pick. Um, Puka went in the second round. Neighbors went later in the second round. Odunze went a few picks after that. Where is Tank? Okay, still no Tank Dell. Tank Dell, first pick of round four.

Jordan Addison, round four. Brian Thomas, round five.ordan addison round four brian thomas round five jsn round five jayden reed round five i think we should have got a zay flowers by now yeah i must have missed a flowers round three sorry i went right over him he was before he was before tank dell so it was like all right so i'll just tell you the first four rounds. Marvin Harrison, Puka Nakua, Malik Neighbors, Romo Dunze, Zay Flowers, Tank Dell, Jordan Addison. There you go. I keep track of now past month's rankings

in my Dynasty ranking spreadsheet. And I always like to see those guys that are just like, obviously I'd rather they just stay right where I ranked them. But the, the complete rollercoaster guys, I think Jamie just mentioned him, right? Rice.

I did not like very much coming into the NFL. I did not have ranked very high going into last season. And then he became a top 20 wide receiver for everybody. And now I'm not sure he's a top 35 dynasty wide receiver he went after xavier worthy they went in the same round i prefer worthy right now in dynasty actually they were back-to-back wide receivers drafted worthy and then seven picks later eight picks later rice but nothing but running backs quarterbacks tight ends in between them all right next question is from Sherm in Sask, whatever that means.

A few years ago, I transitioned our PPR Dynasty League to three receivers instead of two. To make it fair for teams who had traded picks and built a roster for the old lineup, I gave the league enough notice that two rookie drafts would take place before the change occurred. I'm now looking at making the league a super flex league. Is two years notice enough,

or is that a significant enough change that more time should be afforded to the other teams? Two years is plenty. Yeah, I think it probably, it's, it's so hard. Most of the time when people ask me how to make this transition,

I just say, start a second league because it is pretty difficult, but two years should be enough. Next email from Mike. Dear Stanley, Rob, and Wes. I mean, I don't know. Rob and Wes could be Patriots. Patriots, yeah.

Stanley Morgan, Patriots? I don't know. Sure. He was a Patriot. So sure. Nailed it. 12 team, full PPR keeper.

Wait, hold on. Yeah. 12 team, full people are a keeper league. We do auction drafts with $200 budgets. We can keep two players for an extra $5 on top of last year's draft price. Which two keepers would you recommend?

These are their keeper prices out of $200. So I think the $5 have already been added. Kyler Murray for 10. It's a one QB league. Kyler Murray for 10 out of 200. Anthony Richardson for 13. DJ Moore, 27. Amon Ross ain't round 25.

Zay Flowers, 8. Kincaid, 8. DeAndre Swift, 16. Jerome Ford, 10. The $5 was already added? Yeah. I mean, St. Brown's easy. Yeah, St. Brown. I'd probably go...

How many keeping? Two. St. Brown and Kincaid for me. Over Zay Flowers for the same price. I would go St. Brown and Zay. Okay. Jamie, same price for Kincaid and Zay Flowers. St. Brown and Zay. Okay. Jamie, same price for Kincaid and Zay Flowers. St. Brown and Kincaid for me. Okay.

This one's from Chris Murphy. My running back room was trash outside of Montgomery. I had the best quarterback and wide receiver room, so I traded in a dynasty league. My Mahomes, he still has Stroud, A.J. Brown, pick 203 and 208. Mahomes,

A.J. Brown, 203 and 208 for Goff, Bijan, and D.J. Moore. You said it was one quarterback? It doesn't say give me the trade again yeah uh he gives up mahomes aj brown 203 and 208 he gets golf

bijan robinson and dj moore and he still has cj stroud and tyreek hill for what that's worth. So quarterback downgrade. Yeah. Huge running back upgrade as he gets Bijan Robinson. Yeah. And then he gives up AJ Brown and two second round picks for DJ Moore, which is a downgrade. I mean, I don't like trading for running backs in Dynasty unless it's Bijan, which is pretty good. Yeah.

Someone like Bijan, excuse me. I'll say it's a C. It feels like, you know, moving parts across the board. I think it's a C-. I believe I have the combination of Mahomes and A.J. Brown as more valuable than Bijan and D.J. Moore. And then I'd rather have the seconds than Goff in a one quarterback lead.

Right, but he has Stroud. I don't know if that, you know... This trade's not done in a vacuum, so how do you... Right, so you could have kept the seconds and not trade for Goff, and I still would have lost the deal. Okay.

You're downgrading a quarterback, you're downgrading a receiver, and you're upgrading your running back, plus giving away two picks. Alright, look, it's fairly even. Let's just say that. Thank you to Heath, Jamie, and all of our emailers, and all of you for watching and listening. We'll talk to you on Wednesday with another edition of Fantasy Football Today.

We just got an interesting trade proposal in the chat if you want to answer that one. Sure. I already did my outro, but okay. Tic says 12 teams super flex dynasty ppr hollywood brown and a 2025 fourth round pick for second and third round picks in 2025 would you do that trade yes yes oh wait he's getting hollywood he's getting Hollywood? He's getting Hollywood. I would do that trade, yes. I probably would not, but okay. Jamie, you would take the Hollywood side?

Yes, in a super flex, so yeah. Yeah, I don't really know how the super flex thing is relevant there. Well, because the receivers will be pushed back into round two. So you'll get better talent at non-quarterbacks well then you should say hello to Hollywood

but I got to sing alright we'll talk to you on Wednesday everybody bye