Fantasy Football Today - Updated Sleepers! What Has Changed Since the NFL Draft? (05/06 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: May 6, 2024Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts Khalil Shakir (2:06) remains a sleeper and R...ico Dowdle (4:00) deserves more attention! We start with those two sleepers and get into the news and notes (9:45) with Odell Beckham going to the Dolphins and D.J. Chark going to the Chargers ... Dave's sleeper wide receivers (17:05) include Christian Watson, Diontae Johnson, Jaxon Smith-Njigba and some rookies. At running back (29:10), we talk about the Titans backfield, the Chargers guys and more. Jake Ferguson (39:15) is a great tight end to settle for and Dave likes the rookie quarterbacks as sleepers ... On to Jamey's sleepers highlighted by a different set of rookie WRs (42:15) plus some love for Jahan Dotson. Jamey also tells us his sleeper RBs (52:35) including Kendre Miller and two veteran QBs (54:30) in Brock Purdy and Tua Tagovailoa that are being overlooked. Also one sleeper TE and the Fantasy Cops (1:00:00)! ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Hey, what's up, everybody?
Happy Monday.
We've got some sleepers.
Now, we did sleepers about a month ago, but this is a different list.
The NFL draft has obviously changed some things.
We're going to give you some fresh names as well.
We spent so much time talking about Ezekiel Elliott recently.
We didn't really talk about Rico Dowdle.
He's on the list.
We have the Fantasy Cops coming on later.
Tua Tungabailoa is also on the list.
I'm going to tell you, I azerstatted the crap out of this one.
I looked at the games over the last two seasons where Tua, Tyreek Hill,
Jalen Waddle, they were all healthy,
played a pretty normal
snap share, but not the games where there
were blowouts and they sat. But anyway,
in the real games where everyone was healthy,
Tua's averaging almost 23
points per game.
That's enough to make him a top six quarterback
per game each of the last two years.
How many games was that?
23 games. last two years. How many games was that? 23 games over two seasons.
Yeah.
So it's a big sample.
Because there were some games where Tyreek Hill didn't play
even 50% of the snaps, but it was a blowout.
I'm not going to take that away from him.
Anyway, guys, I have my jersey on for the big game tonight.
Hope you guys are ready.
The big game. Yeah. Knicks game one, the big game tonight. Hope you guys are ready. The big game. Yeah.
Knicks game one, Panthers game one,
but I have got my
softball jersey on. Look at that.
The
pepper cords. Wow.
So you're part of the team?
I told you I'm part of the team. I paid my dues.
I got my shirt, and I'm bringing my
league-leading 1,000 batting average
to tonight's game.
Anyway, big night, big
night of sports for everybody. So I'm picking
one of your sleepers to highlight.
That's what we're starting with. I get to pick
Dave. Yeah.
Khalil Shakir still on the sleepers
list here. He was drafted
almost in round 11, the 11th pick of round
10 in the draft we did last week.
Still a sleeper even with the addition of the quotable Keon Coleman.
I think Coleman is fun to follow, and he's obviously got a great personality.
Every single video that's come out on social media about him has been very entertaining.
I hope he's as entertaining on the field as he is in these videos, because there is something to his game that is left to be desired.
He doesn't have explosiveness.
He doesn't have downfield speed.
He is a big body.
He is a power forward at wide receiver.
And I think that there's a role for that.
And obviously, Josh Allen wants that role filled by Coleman.
He liked him.
He told the GM about him.
Allen's glad that Coleman was drafted by the Bills.
But I don't know if it's necessarily going to mean that he's going to be the target leader for Buffalo.
In fact, I don't even think it's going to be a wide receiver that's a target leader
for Buffalo.
But I think there's going to be a role open for Shakir, who had a bunch of touchdowns
in the second half of last season, should be somebody that Tom Kincaid doesn't take
to being a stud tight end.
Well, I don't think Curtis Samuel is going to be the guy that's going to being a stud tight end. Well,
I don't think Curtis Samuel is going to be the guy that's going to have a
ton of targets week in and week out.
I think Shakir can do it up anywhere.
I think he's going to play a lot.
And for the double digit round cost,
happy to have that guy begin the season on my bench and fantasy.
Looks like I'm having some internet issues.
I apologize for that.
If you're listening,
I probably missed it.
Do you need me to repeat all that?
No, that's okay. I got most of it. Might've missed, I probably missed it. Do you need me to repeat all that? No,
that's okay.
I got most of it.
Might've missed a little bit of a,
of a chunk of what Dave said there.
All right.
So Khalil Shakir is still a sleeper for Dave.
He's a yak machine.
He had third most yak per catch last year behind only Debo Samuel and Rishi Rice.
That's among wide receivers with 45 or more targets.
It's a small sample size, but in two years,
he's been great after the catch.
Rico Dowdle, Jamie, that was one of your sleepers.
He went in round 11.
He went three rounds after Ezekiel Elliott.
Why?
Should he be going before Ezekiel Elliott?
I should have brought this up last week.
I really regret not doing so when Zeke was signed,
but why not Rico Dowdle ahead of Zeke?
He's not going to get drafted ahead of Zeke now.
But come August, if he's the guy taking the first snap in training camp,
if he's the guy atop the depth chart,
if he's the guy that the Cowboys are going to lean on,
then obviously that will change.
Now, we'll find out what's going to happen.
I believe there was a story in The Athlet about the bears, maybe shopping Khalil Herbert, um, could see a
situation. Maybe the Texans decide to put Damien Pierce on the block. There's going to be another,
you know, guy or two that has some name value that Dallas may kick the tires on, which makes
total sense. I mean, you know, you have Zeke, uh, near 30, you have Dowdle who's unproven.
You have Deuce Vaughn and Royce Freeman.
You know, these are guys that aren't exactly going to, I think, scare defenses at this
point.
But for now, it's Zeke and Dowdle, at least in what I would assume to be the top two guys
on the depth chart.
So Dowdle is somebody that they, you know, have invested in over the last couple of seasons.
You know, I don't know if he's ever going to be, you know, similar to what Dave said
about Cleo Shakira breakout type of player,
but this is a huge opportunity.
We've spent a lot of time following Tony Pollard's departure through the NFL
draft saying that this is the best landing spot for any of the running backs.
And they just haven't added anybody of significance aside from Ezekiel
Elliott.
So this should be somebody that you have some interest in with a later round
pick. And again,
that could change depending on how things go in training camp for Dallas.
Yeah, I mean, three rounds later than Zeke, Dave,
would you rather have Dowdle three rounds later than Zeke or Zeke in round eight?
I'd rather have Dowdle three rounds later because,
A, I don't really know if I want a Cowboys running back,
at least if these are the Cowboys running backs.
But if I had to bet on one, I'll take the younger guy.
And with the later draft capital, when I cut him, it won't hurt as bad as when I take Zeke
and I cut him potentially.
Okay.
Been a long winding road for Rico Dowdle.
He had seven carries in 2020.
He missed 2021 with a hip injury.
He had no carries in five games and had an ankle injury in 2022.
This guy was an undrafted free agent.
So at this point in his career, it would be something.
But, you know, that's the thing about running back.
You just need those opportunities.
We have an opportunity to be on national TV today.
And I'm fired up.
I got a haircut the other day considering keeping the beard for the show.
Dave, your thoughts?
Beard or no beard? I'm
going to vote beard, but I think we should put it
in a poll on YouTube and let the
YouTubers decide what you do with your face.
All right. We got a new producer today. We have
Schaefer on vacation, so we have Nada
hanging out with us. He's our producer for
the week. He can put up a YouTube. I think
beard is definitely going to win. All right. I'll keep it. I just
don't want to look unprofessional, but we be on cbs sports network monday today this afternoon
2 p.m eastern set your dvrs if you can't watch it live but yeah watch it live on cbs sports network
check your cable provider i think you can watch on the cbs sports app as well yo you got a lot
of gray in that beard oh i was okay maybe i'll shave it then that's not cool i mean jamie did shave his uh he did you did shave yes look at you um you're
gonna wear the hat hat or no hat jamie oh no hat um but i did so i got a haircut friday and i shaved
the beard thursday night but i i went to this funny story i went to
breakfast with two buddies of mine and so i left the mustache just to be funny and so um i had i'd
usually drop off my middle son and i and then i was gonna go meet them he forgot his water bottle
and my youngest son uh wore the wrong shirt today that day for school because they were having like
something to recognize the staff so i had to walk into two schools looking like a like ron burgundy yes that is awesome
and i dave dave thinks that okay i'll ask you jamie so i go to this barber and he actually
has like a rewards card he stamps it every time you wear shirts so people can recognize you right
right so if you get i think 10 haircuts you get a free one well i've been there a lot i mean i probably had seven eight
haircuts there and i usually forget to get my card punched and then when i do remember he's he never
he'll never give me like a double stamp he'll never give me like oh i know you forgot last time
so yeah i think he should I think he should honor it.
Like I'm a regular.
What do you think?
Dave says no.
Dave says it's my fault and I don't deserve the double.
It is your fault.
Are you a good tipper?
$5.
And he owns the store and I still tip him $5.
I mean, you should still tip him.
But he gets all the money.
I do tip him.
Tell me you've never owned a business.
If you're a good tipper, I might bring it up.
If you're not a good tipper, I would say just...
You tell me, am I a good tipper?
Is $5 a good enough tip?
$5 is fine.
If you're a regular somewhere,
you want to be a little bit better
than $5 on a $30 tab.
It's $30?
You don't even do 20%?
Yeah.
That would be what?
$6?
You want me to give him $6?
Fine.
No, no, don't do it.
That's like insulting, this $6.
It's just weird.
All right, let me go through some news items real quick.
I don't know, man.
I'd want to have a barber on my side.
He's excellent. Is this the one that cut your ear too no that was years ago all right this is the one
that cut the three lines on the side of your head after you lost the bet the dolphin side odell
beckham to a one-year deal does that matter yes okay why i mean it's another weapon for tua um he
he still was pretty productive down the field last year,
despite not putting up big numbers.
So it gives him another weapon.
It's going to hurt a little bit for Tyreek and Waddle.
Not enough, I think, where you have to significantly downgrade them,
but it is somebody that's an upgrade over Braxton Berrios
and whatever they were throwing out there.
Cedric Wilson as their third receiver a year ago.
And it kind of hurts Malik Washington.
We talked about this following the draft draft that this could be a,
a fun option,
you know,
to,
to maybe see what can develop there.
And so now I think you've got to wait a year,
you know,
so almost,
you know,
plan on him being a red shirt in,
in some capacity,
but in any event it's,
it's,
it's,
it's a good thing for,
for Tua and slight,
again,
slight knock for the other two guys.
Yeah.
Beckham really wasn't bad last year
when you consider he barely played real I mean he's usually playing right about half the snaps
week one he played 92 percent of the snaps week two 52 percent of the snaps then he missed two
games and he never played 60 percent of the snaps the rest of season but I don't have the numbers in
front of me I think on a per route basis, he was actually really good.
So 15.4 yards per catch.
That's really good.
That came on a 14 yard a dot.
His yards per route run was a little at 1.8.
Usually you want that number to be 2.0 or higher and yards per target.
I know you like this stat.
He likes this stat 8.4.
I believe anything over.
I don't care about yards per target.
Honestly, I thought you did. It's fine. He's also what? that 8.4. I believe anything over 8 is good. I don't care about yards per target, honestly.
I thought you did.
It's fine.
He's also, what, 32 and coming off?
31.
Be 32, maybe?
He will be 32 on November 5th.
Okay, so 31, 32.
Buckle my shirt. Injury track record.
All right.
I should have snuck in a break before that, but we'll sneak in a break.
Now we'll talk about some more. We got a lot of news actually today. We got, uh, Najee Harris,
Nick Chubb, Damian Pierce, Drake May. We got news items on, uh, Darren Waller and more. We'll be
right back on fantasy football and the receivers for the chargers too. It's hockey season and you
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Yes, Jamie said new receiver for the Chargers
and I forgot to put that in the notes.
So DJ Chark
is on the Chargers. We'll get to him in a minute.
Steelers did not exercise Najee Harris's
fifth year option.
Nick Chubb is
progressing nicely according to GM Andrew
Berry. And yes, here we go. The Chargers
signing DJ Chark. Does this matter,
Dave?
I think it matters for Justin Herbert, kind of like the same way that Odell matters for Tua. I
can't sit here and say that I'm excited about drafting DJ Chark. I haven't been that way in
several years, I don't feel like. But in the event that you're playing best ball, keep them in mind
for a late round pick. It is another downfield target for Herbert.
That's a good thing.
Okay.
Does it affect Josh Palmer, Quentin Johnston, Ladd-McConkie?
Yes, definitely.
It does?
Yes.
The door's wide open after Ladd-McConkie.
I didn't hear you say McConkie.
I don't think this is McConkie.
Okay.
But as far as the other receivers, there's going to be a camp competition.
There was an interesting video.
I don't know if you guys saw it on,
on X where Marvin Harrison and Quentin Johnston were working out together.
And they were both like running routes,
doing drills,
all this stuff.
And I just thought to myself,
weird dichotomy between those two.
They're both,
you know,
young NFL players.
And one is just,
you know,
we're loving this guy in fantasy without him playing a single down in the NFL,
and the other guy was a total bust as a rookie,
and here they are working out together.
I just found it kind of interesting that that was the duo
that was on the field together at the same time.
After signing Chark, they also worked out MVS,
and that's another sort of speed guy.
Yeah, they have a type.
So they're looking for guys
that can make plays down the field.
And so, you know,
I'm hopeful that Quinn Johnson could bounce back,
but it's not looking good
when they're bringing in players
that have similar skill sets.
That's a good point.
Houston GM Nick Casario said
that Damian Pierce will be a big part
of what they do this season.
I don't think we're necessarily believing that.
Head coach Gerard Mayo of the Patriots.
Oh, boy.
Did we miss?
I missed the good roast last night, apparently.
Did you guys watch it?
Oh, my gosh.
No, I haven't watched it.
Yeah, I saw some.
I saw a bunch of the highlights, though, so I feel like I saw enough.
It was incredible.
It was really a very well-done, entertaining show.
I can't wait to watch. This is Tom roast on netflix right yes yes okay nick casario used to uh no okay it was
not casario it was gerard mayo that's what got me to that thinking about that gerard mayo the
patriots head coach said drake may and jacoby brissett will compete for the starting job
a couple of giants notes i don't know you've all been waiting patiently for that dan duggan of the
athletic believes that
second-year running back Eric Gray
has a clear path to a bigger role.
We will see.
That's two years in a row they drafted a running back on
day three, Eric Gray, in 2023.
Just a week ago, it was
Tyrone Tracy. He also,
Dan Duggan, said that
Darren Waller's expected retirement
is probably what we should be expecting then at this point.
And Daniel Bellinger could have more of a role in the passing games.
The Giants have brought in some blocking tight ends.
So Bellinger might,
might set them loose a little bit.
ESPN's Jeff Kime says that the commanders want to rely on a strong defense
and run game to take pressure off of Jaden Daniels.
Is that John Kbs' brother?
Yeah.
Sorry.
Sorry, David.
Take your brother to work day.
And the Commanders actually,
because I remember reading
they wanted like this downhill running game last year
and whatnot.
They led the NFL in pass attempts last year.
So what a team says now.
Completely different coaching staff now, man. No, I know. Just year. So what a team says now, completely different coaching staff now,
man.
No,
I know.
I just,
the point is what a team says in,
in may,
it doesn't really matter that much.
What happens in a game is what matters.
The bill signed chase Claypool Cowboys cornerback.
Trayvon is expected to be ready for training camp.
He's recovering from a torn ACL and Baltimore rookie running back.
Rasheen Ali will be ready for training camp.
He's recovering from a ruptured bicep.
All right, let's get to the sleepers.
We're going to start with Dave's sleepers.
We're going to start with his wide receivers.
And let's go three at a time here.
Christian Watson in round nine.
I'm going to tell you where they went
in the draft we did last week.
Christian Watson, round nine.
Deontay Johnson, round six.
One pick before, arguably the best pick in the draft, Malik Neighbors.
Deontay Johnson, round six.
JSN, also round nine, just after Christian Watson.
So let's start with Deontay Johnson.
If this is where he's going to get drafted, round six, round seven,
even in full PPR, that's not much of a sleeper,
but it is somebody that fantasy managers should keep in mind
as a settle for wide receiver.
I think he can get enough target volume, even with the addition of Xavier Leggett and with Adam Thielen there and Jonathan Brooks, once he's healthy, to still see good numbers from week to week as far as receptions go.
I don't know about 100-yard games.
We know that you can't count them for a lot of touchdowns now that he's in Carolina.
But he's in that range
of receivers that might be able to get that done in PPR leagues only. With Watson and with JSN,
these are more talent plays versus stat plays. We know that these guys stunk for fantasy last year.
The opportunities weren't great for them. In the case of Watson, he was hurt for half the year.
Hopefully he can stay healthy. The best stat I can give on Watson, touchdowns per catches.
He had a touchdown every 5.9 catches in 2022,
a touchdown every 5.6 in 2023.
If you believe that the Packers are going to still score a lot of points
and Watson's healthy, yeah, this is a guy that you want to go ahead and target.
If it's that round nine range, that means it's right around pick 100.
Perfect guy to roll the dice on then.
And with JSN, I'm not ready to say that he's a total bust because of where he is.
He could easily take a step forward, even with Tyler Locke there,
work the middle of the field a little bit more and develop into a second year breakout in Seattle.
He went in round, where Adam?
JSN went five picks after Christian Watson in round nine.
Yeah, I don't mind
that either put him on the exact same list as christian watson just he's not in the same type
of offense as christian watson okay with christian watson i just had this this thought here yeah how
many wide receivers in fantasy who will be drafted second on their team,
behind a teammate,
behind a wide receiver on their team,
have a better chance of
beating the guy ahead of them.
Because Watson's going to go after Reed.
He went two rounds after Reed.
You could maybe look at Hopkins.
Biggs and Collins fall in the category
depending on which one goes first.
Oh, yeah.
They're going to be so close.
But that's not bad.
Maybe say Tank Dell.
Ayuk and Debo.
Again,
they'll be close.
Let's see. Ayuk, they went back-to-back in this draft. Yeah, I'm just thinking of
guys that are in that range.
Hopkins and Ridley, I think.
There's a big gap.
It's with them.
Right. Well, the receiver that goes first would be the favorite obviously yeah just how big of a favorite that that receiver would be like i would imagine that
people would say calvin ridley is probably like a 65 favorite to be the better receiver in tennessee
i don't think the percentage would be that high for Watson,
or for Reid, rather, behind Watson.
That could be a lot.
If Christian Watson is healthy, he'll be the best receiver in Green Bay.
Yeah, exactly.
If he can stay healthy all season long and he continues to rack up touchdowns,
man, that's easy.
Awesome value.
I think it's a little bit steeper for Smith and Jigba because of Metcalf there.
And listen, didn't Lockett lead this team in targets and catches last year?
Targets for sure.
I don't know catches.
Pretty sure he did.
I can double check.
It makes sense,
but I definitely know he led them in targets.
Yeah.
Okay.
So another guy on your sleepers list, Dave,
is Roma Dunze,
and he went in between Christian Watson
and Jackson Smith and Jigba.
So how do you, you know,
if you're up in round nine or
something, how do you decide between Christian Watson, JSN and Roma Dunze? Well, I have it
ranked where it's Christian Watson, JSN and Roma Dunze. So that would be where I would go with it.
And it's just a Dunze being a rookie receiver with a rookie quarterback. I'm not ready to give him
the benefit of the doubt yet, but making the case for him as an
awesome sleeper is easy to do. Super talented wide out on an offense with two veteran wide
receivers, one of which obviously this being Keenan Allen doesn't have a totally versatile
role. We expect him to be a slot guy, expect him to have a low a dot and expect him to potentially
miss some time because
he's an older receiver. And when those games come, Odunze could easily pick up the snack,
snack. Was that a Freudian slip or what? He could easily pick up the slack and put up seven,
eight targets per game, be a really good receiver for fantasy. He could also possibly break out,
you know, camp goes his way. We know that he's talented
enough to do it. We were hoping he'd go to a team where he could be a number one wide receiver.
Now he might begin the year as a number three. By the end of the year, he could be number two.
And so that's why the idea with Odunze would be you draft him, you sit on him, you wait for him
to do something good, and then you put him in your lineup as a wide receiver three.
It's just the irony of all this is that shane waldron is the coordinator from seattle
a year ago yes i had a similar situation that's a great point yeah and now he has a similar situation
um that the rookie may be i don't want to say more talented but has might have more upside
than the second guy yes you know at this point this point, it's crazy to say that. And so, well, I mean, look, you know, Keenan Allen's going to be 32
and, you know, miss four games last year. It's hard. It's hard to, it's hard to know if Keenan
Allen was actually injured for those four games or just the chargers were in such a bad spot
without Herbert there. And he was hurt. And so not fighting through whatever injury he was playing
with. Cause if they're in a playoff hunt, you know, could he have gone out there?
I have no idea.
I'm just speculating.
But, you know, I mean, look, it's going to be hard to say for JSN and Odunze.
You can get a little bit better feeling for JSN because, okay,
did he do enough as a rookie?
Like he needs more targets.
He needs more opportunities.
He needs more, you know, attention in the offense.
And that will help things for that team
because you're getting the higher upside player on the field more.
And the Bears, they just may take their time with it.
I think they obviously want to grow and cultivate Caleb Williams as much as possible,
and so does Keenan Allen help that more than Odunze does in terms of how they operate
with two-receiver sets versus three-receiver sets and using tight ends, et cetera.
So they have a lot of weapons.
They have a lot of moving parts.
I mean, with Gerald Everett there and Cole Komet as well,
and they'll certainly throw to their backs.
They have certainly two guys that can catch the ball quite a bit
in DeAndre Swift and Roshon Johnson.
So it's a lot to ask for Odunze to be successful
if everybody's healthy.
Well, one of the things that worked against JSN last year
is that Metcalf and Lockett, they basically never get hurt, those guys.
They rarely, rarely miss games.
Meanwhile, Keenan Allen has missed, what, he's missed 11 games over the last two seasons.
So right there, that's an opening.
You might need that.
You might need an injury.
But maybe you look at that and say you got an aging wide receiver who's missed 11 games over the last two seasons that could be a reason to put romo dunze
on your bench and you know you just be one of those terrible people who roots for an injury
that's something that i would never do but you out there you're a terrible person you might do it
well i i'd like to go back and look and like how many people stashed jsn used him for the couple
games where there was injuries and how successful
were they in managing their roster that way because these these are the type of players
that kill your team you know like they're so talented there's so much upside there's so much
potential you can't cut them because you know the minute that there's an injury he's the most
coveted player in your league and And then somebody else benefits from that.
He had 16.3 PPR points in the one game DK Metcalf missed last year was
against Arizona.
Right.
And,
and yeah,
and lock it's what 31.
And then if you look at Deontay Johnson,
Adam Thielen is even older than that.
And,
and Keenan Allen's older than that.
So you've got guys on your list,
Dave,
that have an opportunity,
even if there isn't an injury, maybe just performance-wise,
to break out a little bit.
One thing I'll say, you mentioned that Deontay Johnson going in the sixth round,
that's not a sleeper.
I actually thought that was one of the worst picks.
Deontay, I hated that pick, Deontay Johnson.
Yeah, it felt very harsh.
A little harsh.
But I didn't think it was a good pick to take him in the sixth round. So when is an appropriate time to take Deontay Johnson in the... Yeah, it felt very harsh. A little harsh. But I didn't think it was a good pick
to take him in the sixth round.
So when is an appropriate time
to take Deontay Johnson?
One round later.
Yeah.
Jaden Reed or Deontay?
Reed.
I'll take Deontay in PBR.
Ladd McConkie or Deontay?
Deontay.
I'll take McConkey.
Can I throw a sleeper in the ring here in the mix?
I'm just looking at this chart.
Bring it on.
Chris Godwin.
He went around later than Deontay Johnson.
They're moving him back to the slot this year.
Yeah.
I'm feeling it.
I love targeting him ahead of everybody we've named so far.
Okay.
Let's go. That's an easy one. The last receiver named so far. Okay, let's go.
That's an easy one.
The last receiver on your list.
Oh, no, two more.
Jamison Williams and Jalen Polk.
So Jamison is certainly going to get an opportunity
to play a larger role in the Lions offense.
I don't know if it's going to be enough to make him
like a megastar in fantasy.
He obviously has that upside.
Would I take him ahead of Godwin, for no i don't think so he's kind of in that same range though as
watson jsn odunze just another one of these wide receivers who if if the if things break right the
opportunity is there man you're gonna be glad you took him with a pick around round 100 or round 100 pick 100 excuse me i'm all all over the place today but if if he doesn't break out you're going
to be nervous to cut him so we got to figure out a name for these types of players there's probably
a good one out there he'll get cut up he will definitely get cut who james jameson yeah i mean
you know there's enough of a sample size with him
that I think people have soured on it.
Plus, you're looking at a situation where he's not going to command targets
in this offense.
He's going to be three to five targets, I think, consistently,
even with the opportunity, because he's just not that type of player.
With St. Brown and Laporta healthy and what they'll do with Jameer Gibbs
and even David Montgomery, I don't think they're done adding to their receiving
core also.
I think this will be a team that kicks the tires on some of these guys
that are still out there or get cut.
So I wouldn't be surprised if they're done.
That said, it's a huge opportunity.
I agree with you 100%.
He's one of my favorite sleepers at Target.
I wrote about this in the first sleepers version that I did
because there is so much opportunity and so much excitement.
But I do think that if he gets off to a slow start,
he's getting cut in a lot of leagues.
James Williams, yeah.
The first guy I remember thinking this guy is too good to cut,
but not good enough to start back in the day was Tevin Coleman. And I never wanted to draft Tevin
Coleman. He, I feel like, you know, Deontay, Deontay Freeman was, was the man Devante Freeman,
sorry. And Coleman had a role and he was the man Devante Freeman, sorry. And,
uh,
Coleman had a role and he was like a seventh,
eighth round pick.
And I never wanted him because you could never start them.
You were hoping you were just waiting for an injury.
He would be amazing if they were an injury, but you couldn't bench him because you couldn't cut him because he'd be the
first guy picked up.
Exactly.
So there's,
there's so many handcuffs throughout the years that you can put in this
category of just,
he's one injury away
and the guy in front of him is injury prone and blah blah blah and then you know the guy stays
healthy for six seven weeks in front of him and then you cut that guy and that's the minute that
that player unfortunately gets hurt now we need to think of a guy who's just been around been in the
nfl or any any league for so long and just has a bench role and and like it just always finds a
team but uh okay anyway let's go to your running back sleepers.
Yeah, they form it a little more like like an old guy, like a Udonis Haslam running back Tajay Spears.
He went eight point three in between Ramond Ray Stevenson and Ezekiel Elliott.
And the nine game. Yeah, I'm sorry. No, it's all right. Go ahead. Go ahead. Tajay. Nine games last Elliott. And then nine games.
Yeah, I'm sorry.
No, it's all right.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Tajay.
Nine games last year with at least nine touches.
He averaged 10 and a half PPR points per game.
I think we know him as a good passing downs running back.
I think he's going to get the opportunity to probably just work in tandem with Tony Pollard.
And we don't know exactly how that'll shake out, but the Titans just might view both of these guys in the same way. And so there might not be one that it could
be. Tony Pollard gets the first drive. Tajay Spears gets the second drive. And then when one's
tired, the other one goes in, maybe Spears fits in as the two minute drill running back. I don't
know who would be the goal line back because neither one of them is particularly great in
short yardage situations. That's something to be concerned about. It could be a third running back that we're not thinking about. But I think Spears would have a humongous opportunity if Tony Pollard were to get benched or missed time for whatever reason. And we've seen him play with good efficiency as a rookie. Second year in, offensive line's better. Could see a little spike in fantasy
points per game. It's a good idea to have running backs like that on your bench.
So he went in between Ramondre Stevenson and Zeke. Your thoughts?
Rather Ramondre. Yeah, I'd rather have Ramondre too, but that's exactly... I've got both of them
a little bit ahead of Zeke. I'm not on the Zeke bandwagon. I expect the Cowboys to do more with their backfield, as Jamie's alluded to.
But I think he should go before pick 100, Spears.
So where he went in this draft, perfect.
Yeah, he's going to go a little bit higher because there's still some speculation
that he may be the best running back for Tennessee
based on some of the things that Callahan has said.
And we saw what he was able to do
in a small sample size last year.
I think the hype will get a little bit,
I don't want to say out of control,
but to a point where these guys,
and we saw it, I think, in their first draft,
that the first draft we did following free agency,
they were almost back to back.
I think there was actually one draft
where Spears went first.
I think you're right.
I'm looking at this right now.
Where Robert Thomas, if I'm not mistaken,
the guy who does our um facebook
our facebook page 48th overall yeah so i don't really put spears in a sleeper category i feel
like if anything he's gonna be a breakout candidate um so it 80 people probably determine type of the
type of player that he is if you're going to categorize these guys so if he's going closer
to pick 100 then i think he's worth you know considering a sleeper but the line is, as Dave said, he's somebody you want on your team because he's
an injury away from being a superstar and he may end up being the best running back for Tennessee
outright without an injury. Dave, how sick do you feel when you take Tony Pollard
61st overall and then Spears goes two rounds late, 25 picks late, 26 picks late or something
like that.
Not the best feeling in the world.
You're hoping that Pollard gets just a little bit more
of an opportunity to begin the year
and can turn that into something that doesn't change
or maybe improves as the year goes on.
I have a better question.
You took Tony Pollard with the first pick of round six.
You were up again at the turn round seven, eight.
You took Najee Harris and Evan Ingram.
Of course.
If I had known that Najee was going to fall that far,
I would have probably taken another position.
That wasn't the question.
Did you give any thought to taking Tajay Spears
when you already had Pollard?
No.
Okay.
So maybe it was a worse question after all.
All right, let's go through your running backs quickly here.
Chase Brown, first pick of round nine.
He went one pick ahead of Devin Singletary.
He also went ahead of Jalen Warren.
I think that's a mistake.
I think Warren should have gone ahead of Chase Brown.
But do you like Chase Brown in round nine?
I think Brown's got a little bit more potential
to put up nicer numbers than Warren.
I think we know what Warren is.
And after last year, I don't know if the Steelers, even with Arthur Smith coming in,
I don't know if they're ready to make him the lead back if Najee's healthy.
So you would do that?
You would take Brown over Warren?
I would take Brown.
They're back-to-back in my rankings.
I'm not going to fault you for taking Warren.
But I spent the whole year watching Jalen Warren, Obviously he was my favorite sleeper last year and he felt like 10 PPR points per game.
And that's not bad. That's a good role to have, but it's not, I don't, I don't know what the odds
are of him getting to 12 or 13 PPR points per game. Now I can't sit here and say that the odds
are great for chase Brown to do the exact same thing i just know that his situation doesn't feel as locked in to not changing like it is for jaylen in pittsburgh
fair uh real quick zach moss in round seven or chase brown in round nine. What do you like better? I'm going to say Moss for now.
Yeah.
That was my pick.
That was a good pick.
Thank you.
Okay.
He's a saddle for running back.
There's a bunch of them in this fantasy world.
Gus Edwards.
I do not see him as a saddle for running back.
Gus Edwards.
You're targeting Zach Moss.
Oh, in round seven?
Yeah.
I may have taken him a little bit too early
in a previous draft in round six,
but I've said it so many times,
there's absolutely no evidence to suggest
that Joe Mixon is a better player than Zach Moss.
And Mixon, now Moss won't get the catches of Mixon.
But, you know, Mixon was like a round two, three pick.
I think Moss in round seven is terrific.
Anywho, Gus... You know, Mixon was like a round two, three pick. I think Moss in round seven is terrific.
Anywho, Gus. You've just got to hope that Moss gets the same type of opportunities that Mixon has.
No, he won't.
That's something that I don't think we can promise.
No, he won't get that.
But that's why he's not even close to where Mixon was being drafted.
Right.
Anyway, Gus Edwards was drafted in round nine.
He's one of your sleepers.
We got Edwards in round nine, Dobbins in round 11, Kamani Vidal in round 13 ball as much as possible. And Gus, for what it's worth, has been efficient. Maybe that was because he was playing with Lamar
Jackson. Probably won't have the same type of yards per carry this year as he has in the past,
but he's going to get those touchdown opportunities. He'll also benefit greatly
from the offensive line. He's just got to stay healthy to do it. I don't want to take him.
It's got to be like a round nine pick for Gus Edwards at the absolute earliest.
But he could end up scoring 10 touchdowns this year.
Okay.
But he's the best value there.
Edwards in round nine.
Dobbins 11.
Vidal 13.
I don't know what Dobbins is yet.
And I don't know what Vidal is either.
I keep saying Vidal, which is, by the way, how I do believe it is pronounced.
You might be looking at the spelling and going, Adam, you're an idiot.
But I heard it pronounced Vidal like 100 times, so I'm rolling with that.
Blake Corum, first pick, or sorry, almost the last pick, 10th pick of round 10.
One pick after Jalen Wright, who I believe is on Jamie's sleepers list.
Who do you guys like better, J, uh, Jalen, right.
Or Blake Corum.
Depends what you need.
If you need somebody that has a chance to play sooner, I would take Corum.
If you need someone who's going to be more of a league winner, I would take Jalen.
Right.
I think if there's injuries to both backfields, I would rather have the dolphin starter than
I would the ramp starter right now.
And in those two guys, uh, I'll go, I'll rather have the Dolphins starter than I would the Rams starter right now. And those two guys.
I'll go, I'll take the other side of this.
I think if, if the starters go down, I'll take quorum because I don't know
if the Rams even have another running back that they would want to put in.
I don't think it's Ronnie rivers.
I think quorum would get that opportunity.
I think they drafted quorum.
They said as much, he reminds them of Kyron Williams.
And this is the same thing about Jalen Wright,
reminding them of Raheem Mostert. Sure. But the other, the very first thing that I want to say
to you is whenever there's a running back that goes down in Miami, they're still going to stick
with using multiple. That's what I'm saying. It would take two injuries. I mean, there's,
there's certainly more of an opera. That's what I said. If you need somebody that's going to play
right away, you'd rather have a quorum because not only will he probably play in tandem with Kyron Williams, there's only one guy he has to
jump over as opposed to. And if Kyron Williams gets off to a
sluggish start, we we've seen this coaching staff make a very
quick change at running back before last year, a perfect
example. Quorum can end up being the feature guy. I am. I mean,
they did that before the season started though. No week one,
they gave cam acres a lot of work.
And by week two, Cam Akers was back in the Cam Akers ceremonial doghouse at Rams practice.
To be fair, also, when Kyron missed four games, they used two guys.
They did.
They didn't have Cam Akers at that point.
I would be – I'm not one to take Kyron Williams in round one anymore.
If I did draft Kyron Williams, I'm reaching for Blake Corum before 10th pick of round 10.
There's no way he should go that late anyway,
but I'm going to want to back him up just in case.
That's a backfield I want to lock up.
Thomas had the chance.
Thomas took Kyron Williams in round two,
and then he took his fifth wide receiver, Tyler Lockett, in round 10.
I think that would have been a good time
to take Blake Corum instead.
Jake Ferguson went as tight end 12.
That's your tight end sleeper that you provided, Dave.
Yeah, tight end 12 and 11th round for Ferguson.
Another cowboy that benefited from the offseason
because Dallas didn't do much to improve their
offense other than the offensive line. And that's something that they needed to do. I'm glad Dallas
did it that way. And it's going to work out for Ferguson. He was second on the team in targets
last year. He was a big time red zone threat. He was playing the Jason Witten Dalton Schultz role.
He did fine with it. He's not going to be a top five fantasy tight end. I don't see that happening,
but I think he can be a starting fantasy tight end and a great guy to target
late if you do the greater late strategy. I would say Jake Ferguson is my favorite
settle for tight end. A guy that I target if I've missed out on like the top seven or eight,
once Pitts is off the board, probably I'm probably just hoping I can wait a few rounds
and get Ferguson.
Is that too strong of a...
No.
Similar things.
He's
tight end nine for me. I'd take him over
to Joko.
Quarterback
sleepers are the rookies. Jaden Daniels,
Caleb Williams, and J.J. McCarthy
in this draft
that we did last week, Williams went in round 9
and then Daniels went in round 13
and McCarthy was not drafted
okay, how do you rank them
Dave, real quick
Daniels, Williams, McCarthy
Daniels, Williams are back to back
for you or no?
yeah, they're very close and then McCarthy's
several spots behind.
Should McCarthy be drafted in a 1QB league?
You don't have to draft him.
No.
Okay, then I won't.
All right.
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We talked a lot about them last week.
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Okay, we're going to start with Jamie's wide receiver sleepers.
We've got three rookies on this list.
Xavier Worthy, Brian Thomas, and Troy Franklin.
Let's take a look at how they were drafted.
Worthy for the Chiefs, Brian Thomas for the Jaguars,
Troy Franklin for the Broncos. Worthy was drafted in round nine
in between Roma Dunze and JSN.
Brian Thomas, round 10,
just after Jacoby Myers and Tyler Lockett.
And Troy Franklin, round 12.
What do you think the best value there is, Jamie?
Worthy in round nine, Thomas in round 10,
and Franklin in round 12?
With a significant
suspension for Rashi Rice,
worthy by a mile.
Moderate suspension for Rice
or little to no suspension,
I will take Thomas.
There's like, what, 200 targets
vacated from the Jaguars offense
that Thomas and Gabe
Davis are trying to fill to replace
Calvin Ridley and Zay Jones? Like, no offense to Gabe Davis are trying to fill to replace Calvin Ridley and Zay Jones.
Like, no offense to Gabe Davis, but Thomas could be an absolute monster
if he picks up things quickly.
Now, Kirk and Ingram should benefit because I don't think, Kirk specifically,
because Ingram, it's hard to expect more than 100 plus catches from tight end.
So, you know, he should, should in my opinion easily be tight end six
coming off the board in most leagues um kirk is a borderline top 24 guy but in terms of like just
sleeper potential you know thomas playing the calvin ridley role is pretty fantastic if he can
do some of the similar things that calvin really did you know the expectations are dramatically
different we were expecting calvin really to be a borderline top 12 guy last year with the opportunity he had in
Jacksonville Thomas won't do that and he's obviously a raw product coming out of LSU even
though he was successful in his final year there but you know it's everything you hear is just you
know he's still got a room room to grow which is great um for his long-term potential but I think
just for what his opportunity is and we'll be able to draft him he's going to be a lot of my fancy
teams all right you also have Jahan this is an interesting one you have Jahan Dotson as a sleeper But I think just for what his opportunity is and where you'll be able to draft him, he's going to be on a lot of my fancy teams.
All right.
You also have Jahan.
This is an interesting one.
You have Jahan Dotson as a sleeper, and he was a round 12 pick in this draft.
Dotson went.
This was round 12, if anybody remembers, was the rookie round.
Seven of the picks in round 12 were rookies.
So Dotson went just before Malachi Corley of the Jets, Ricky Pearsall of the Niners,
Troy Franklin of the Broncos, Jalen Polk of the Patriots.
Should Dotson be drafted ahead of those guys?
Yeah.
And to be honest, I was looking at him in round 10.
And the reason I didn't take him was because I already took McLaurin.
So I was just trying to diversify a little bit.
If I hadn't taken McLaurin, I would have taken Dotson in that spot.
Third year receiver, flashed as a rookie, disappointed last year.
No more Curtis Samuel.
You'll see, you know, you have the list in front of you.
I like Benson, and I think it's a good landing spot for him as a rookie tight end there in Washington.
But this is a receiving core that's, you know, lacking for – not lacking for talent,
but lacking for, you know, guys I think that are going to command targets.
You know, they drafted McCaffrey's little brother. Um, you know, he could be the third receiver there. I
think that speaks volumes to what the volume will be for McLaurin and for Dotson. So, uh, getting
more excited about McLaurin and more excited about Dotson, you know, entering his third season,
hopefully this will be the type of third year breakout player that we talk about, you know,
not like maybe to Nico Collins Heights, but in a similar capacity of a guy that can take a huge step forward with a new quarterback, with a new system and a guy that, again, we were very excited about going into last year.
I would argue that he's an easier receiver to draft than some of the guys on my sleeper list because he's got that same type of breakout potential.
But if it's week three and we're not seeing it from Dotson, I don't think you're going to sweat it much if you cut them.
I'm sorry.
I am trying to find this research I did about rookie quarterbacks.
I want to know, how confident are you that this passing game
will be more productive?
It will be better, you'd think, more efficient.
Because remember, like I said, they led the NFL in passing,
in attempts last year.
But in terms of yards and touchdowns,
do you think the commanders are going to exceed what they did last year?
Probably not, at least for the majority of the season.
There may be a stretch where if you go on a per-game basis,
it might look better once Jaden Daniels gets comfortable. Remember, there may be a stretch where, you know, if you go on a per game basis, it might look better.
Once Jayden Daniels gets comfortable, remember he's a 24 year old rookie,
you know, so it's not like we're talking about a kid coming in here that hasn't played enough.
He's played at two schools.
He's got an opportunity, I think, to step in and pick up an offense that I think is
going to be catered to him, which is why Cliff Kingsbury is there.
And so when we talk about investments, like this is a perfect
friendship strategy type of opportunity here.
So, you know, maybe I'm talking to both sides of my mouth by not taking talk about investments like this is a perfect uh friendship strategy type of opportunity here so
you know maybe i'm talking about both sides of my mouth by not taking both washington receivers
you really just need one of these guys to be successful right for where they're the the split
and where they're being drafted you know so if you drop mclaurin and dotson if one guy pops he'll be
great and so that's kind of the hope i. Are two guys going to be fantastic in this offense?
Probably not.
But Dotson showed you as a rookie, he's got seven touchdowns.
He could do it by finding the end zone,
not necessarily being a high-volume catch and yardage type of guy.
So you just have to know what you're getting.
There's a reason why he's going after in the double-digit rounds.
He's not necessarily a league winner going into the year,
but he might be that coming out of the season.
So we'll see.
I mean, Kingsbury's offense hasn't exactly been successful
in supporting two guys consistently,
but we haven't also seen a lot of consistent two options
like what Washington may have.
The one season of Hopkins and Brown, Brown got hurt.
Hopkins was suspended.
So hard to say that those guys would have been as successful as they were.
I don't have huge expectations for Dotson,
but I love him in this range.
Yeah, the Commanders averaged 245 passing yards per game last year.
It is, I would say, very unlikely that Jaden Daniels is going to do that.
Maybe not very unlikely, but unlikely.
First-round picks, yeah, the ones that go in the top 10, they have a chance.
I think like Justin Herbert, Joe Burrow did that.
But that's actually not that bad.
They were 16th in gross passing guards per game, the Commanders.
24 touchdown passes.
Again, I'm probably going to take the under on that
for a rushing quarterback in his rookie season.
So I do want people to consider that.
Consider that the Commanders, I would say, they didn't have a good passing game, but because they threw the ball so much, they had very average, like league average passing production last year. And I just wonder what that means for a McLaurin-Dodson breakout when you might not really get much more statistics, basically. The one thing I do like about Daniels is Terry McLaurin has had quarterbacks,
I think Dave brought this up on an earlier show, that have been so bad.
No, you mentioned his off-target rate, McLaurin's off-target rate.
But specifically with deep balls, he has had such a bad run of deep ball accuracy.
And I feel like Jaden Daniels can be really good at that.
Well, he was at LSU.
He was, right.
He's got to translate the game.
And at 24 years old
with a lot of experience
and he's been developing
for the past five years
and you can see that on the film,
I think you can feel good about him
being at least serviceable.
But he might be able to come right in and just throw like a stud.
This is another team that's improved its offensive line as best as it could.
I actually love the kid that they drafted, Brandon Coleman.
I noticed him a year ago when I was watching TCU and he was awesome at the
senior bowl.
Like he was going toe to toe with Devandre sweat at the senior bowl.
This is a guy who might be able to play left tackle for them and protect the
blind side of Jane Daniels.
It's volume that you have to worry about.
And I think that there's going to be enough there to support one wide
receiver.
I would obviously say that McLaurin has the best chance to be that guy.
And if the deep ball catch rate is better,
the catchable passes are better than yeah.
McLaurin is going to have the best year of his career.
It might not be by a whole lot, but he'll have
a very good year. And if he gets hurt or something
happens, then Dotson will have that opportunity.
But I think only one of them will be able to do it.
If you're drafting McLaurin, let's call it
late round five, round six.
I don't know where he went in our mock.
And then you're getting Dotson in the late rounds.
Yeah, friendship strategy. That'll work
out, I guess. He went round six to Jamie.
Yeah, 6.8.
Okay. Love, 6.8. Okay.
That's awesome.
Love that pick.
So Rashid Shahid is the last receiver on your list.
He went in round 13,
and he actually had a pretty good year last year,
719 yards and five touchdowns
on only 75 targets in 15 games.
You're definitely going to need more targets
for Rashid Shahid, Jamie,
but he's been very efficient.
I mean, look at this receiving core.
You know, it's no Michael Thomas, at least for now.
They got rid of him or let him walk.
We love Chris Olave, understandably so.
A.T. Perry, Bub Means, you know, like these are guys that have a long way to go to prove themselves.
And Shahid, again, I don't think breakout type of player but could he
be a third receiver in a three receiver league absolutely you know so he'll be a frustrating
fantasy option at times felt like last year he was starting to see a spike in targets and then
he got hurt and so you know that was disappointing to see him not be able to finish it out but
I mean look Derek Carr is what he is maybe Spencer Rattler at some point changes that, but there's a huge opportunity here
and we'll see if he takes advantage of it. Washington was first in the league in attempts
per game. New Orleans was ninth. They were less than two attempts per game behind Washington.
So that's a team that threw a lot. And I don't think their offensive identity is going to change
that much, even though I don't even know what I'm supposed to say after, even though I don't think their offensive identity is going to change that much, even though I don't even know what I'm supposed to say after,
even though I don't think their offensive identity is going to change that
much.
I think the one thing that for a player like this with Clint Kubiak coming
in is coming from the San Francisco offense.
We know yards after catch are big.
And so between a lava and Shahid,
they could be as good as anybody in the league with what they do and how they operate.
And if Derek Carr can manage to pick up the system quickly, which I think he will, especially knowing his brother played for Kubiak's father, there's hopefully some level of –
Does that matter?
I was your brother's cousin, former roommates. It's funny you mention that, though, because Dennis Allen said he reached out to
Derek Carr to make sure there was no issues
between David Carr and
Kubiak's dad.
The language
will matter.
If some of the concepts are the same, those things
help. Any of these little intangible things help.
When you're
changing offenses, and Derek Carr
has now been through what
probably at least five or six would be my guess you know between what he had with the Raiders and
the couple he's already had with uh New Orleans you know terminology and and getting familiar
with those type of things matters guess who the top three quarterbacks and yards per attempt were
last season not car yards per attempt.
Yeah.
One of them,
they should get number one.
You should get instantly.
Brock Purdy,
9.6 yards per attempt.
Oh,
sure.
Okay.
Two has to be up there. It was two,
two,
it was two,
two,
three.
No,
no,
uh,
it was Stroud all coming from the same system.
And now that's what you're getting in New Orleans, hopefully.
Hopefully an increase there.
Okay, Jamie's running back sleepers, Jerome Ford.
He went in round 10 just before Roman Wilson.
I'm up all day for that. That's a good one.
Okay, he went before Roman Wilson and Jalen Wright.
Would you have taken Jerome Ford before those rookies?
Oh, yes.
100%. And let me just check Nick Chubb in this draft.
I took Chubb in this draft.
Okay.
Round eight.
Yeah, that was late for Chubb.
Okay, round eight for him and Ford in round 10,
as I mentioned.
And Jalen Wright is in one of your sleeper things.
I think we talked about him.
Rico Dowdell.
Kendri Miller.
Let's go.
Oh,
somebody likes the saints this year.
Uh,
Kendry Miller around 12 pick went right after Packers rookie Marshawn Lloyd.
Okay.
Thoughts on Miller.
Yeah.
Screw their starters.
I just want all their backups.
Um,
uh,
again,
you know,
a guy that has an incomplete from his rookie season,
you know,
didn't get to play very much because of injuries.
I don't love the fact that Jamal Williams is still there for now, because that's a roadblock to him. I think getting featured offers, featured touches,
if something happens to Alva Kamara, but we are talking about a guy that's going to be,
I believe 29 in Kamara. Um, and so should he miss any time? Do they go back to Williams
who struggled last year, or do they give, do they give maybe the younger player with more upside an opportunity?
So this is just another type of guy that you put on your bench.
You see what happens the first few weeks of the season.
If he's not playing at all, then it's easy guy to drop.
If he's getting worked into the rotation, Tevin Coleman style,
then he may be able to show you some flashes and you want to hold on them
just in case something happens.
So lottery ticket type of running back you'll take with the late round flyer.
Some of you could cut easily,
but still,
I wouldn't be surprised if there was an injury in front of him.
He gets a chance to play more than the guy that's probably listed second on the depth chart right now.
Very similar to like a green Bay situation with Marshall and Lloyd,
you know,
where Lloyd is the guy you'd want as opposed to Dylan,
even though Dylan might be second on depth chart,
similar to New Orleans.
All right. We got a comment here from no. Thank you. Very polite commenter. I feel like Purdy will be good value this year. Brock Purdy, the hype around him has died down and I
see people drafting even some of the rookies ahead of Brock Purdy. He still has amazing weapons in a
great system. Why am I reading that after we just talked about Kendrick Miller? Cause we're going
to transition to Jamie's quarterback sleepers and Brock Purdy is one of them.
He went in the 12th round.
I took him in that draft.
He was my second quarterback.
And to a tongue of Iloa was Jamie's second sleeper,
who went in the 15th round, I believe, to Dave.
He was the second-to-last quarterback taken.
And like I said, these guys were one and two in yards per attempt last season.
So, yeah, Purdy, Jamie, Brock Purdy has scored
20 or more fantasy points in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues
in 16 of his 21 regular season starts.
That is awesome.
Yeah, I think he was QB six last year.
Do you think he could do that again?
Absolutely.
I think, like No Thank You said,
I don't know if the hype has died down around him. They did just come off a Super Bowl run, and they're going to be do I think that he could do that again? Yes. Do I think that the rookies could do it
in that range also? Yes. But at least we've seen it from this guy. And when you talk about system
and weapons, he has everything that you want. You know, he's got two receivers, maybe now three
that can make a lot of plays for him. He has a tight end. That's among the best in football.
And we know the best running back in the game that does a lot of his work as a pass catcher.
So Brock party gets a lot of easy points and that's the type of thing you want. So
I'll go back to what I said about the rookie quarterbacks. When we talked about it following
the draft, I think you followed this to a T you take one of the rookies first and you take a
established guy like Purdy right afterwards. You know, I, you might've let the, the value go a
little bit too far, uh, in what most people will have to draft because I don't think Purdy will fall as far as he did.
And I don't think you'll be able to probably get the quarterbacks in this
range in most regular drafts.
As we know,
the ADP gets pushed up a little bit,
but if you're going to buy into Caleb Williams or Jaden Daniels,
whatever,
or do you have them in try and make sure you do it with one of these type
of guys.
And I think Purdy,
and you want to throw two in here too.
I mean,
two,
I just let the NFL in passing yards. He's got two of the best receivers and now maybe a third guy that's
going to help improve things a little back home but you know systems are great and options around
them are great they just don't run and that's kind of the the the appeal that's not there
so you don't get the same type of maybe upside that you might get with with jayden daniels and
you know i think caleb williams is going to be fun to have on your fantasy roster. But they're all almost back-to-back-to-back for me,
those four guys.
And I would take all of them over Justin Herbert,
to be honest with you.
Yeah, you're talking about following it to a T.
Jamie's referencing my team.
I took Caleb Williams, and then I took Brock Purdy.
And I was considering taking Caleb Williams
and Jaden Daniels, but I don't know.
Purdy's good enough.
I didn't feel like I needed to do that.
Purdy, I do think maybe is a little bit underappreciated.
The rushing is kind of interesting for Purdy though.
You know, Tua does not run.
Purdy rushed for 144 yards last year.
That's good.
He rushed for 13 yards in 2022.
So if he goes down to like a 50 yard rusher,
that actually could be fairly significant.
His rushing, I remember he had one game
where he had like 50 yards or something
against the Bengals.
I don't remember.
Oh, yeah, he had 57 yards against the Bengals.
He had a terrible game.
He threw two intercepts.
With the long of what?
I don't know, but there were like some late scrambles there.
And he's probably, probably i'm gonna go with
he's not gonna rush for 144 yards this year that's probably a little high for him okay and then ben
sinet was the last guy on your sleepers list he was not drafted you said i should have taken him
over darren waller uh probably will have to do that going forward or else i'll have a retiree
on my team but yeah ben sinetott as a sleeper for you.
You like the commanders.
I mean, athletic profile that we like, you know, is going to be a very good pass catcher at this level.
And the draft capital is always something I think you look at with tight end second round pick in the NFL draft.
And so Zach Ertz in his mid to late 30s in front of him, we saw Ertz, you know, struggle to stay healthy two years ago.
When he was starting to get phased out a little bit by a younger player he wanted to be traded to a contender
i see very similar situation happening this year of washington is struggling and he just wants to
maybe see if he can latch on with another team because he's starting to get replaced so the guy
in front of him is not exactly the most entrenched player um we talked about the downside you know
there's not going to be a lot of pass volume this offense that i think can support three guys but this could be one of those tight ends that by the end of the
season we're saying okay pick them up off waivers and not making an impact similar to uh sam laporta
or even dalton kincaid because that's a lot to ask but maybe luke musgrave you know if you want
to attach a rookie to it and you know make make a comp in terms of production you know musgrave
was making a lot of plays for the packers in a crowd of receiving core as the season went on and then eventually it
was tyler craft you know once the injury happened to musgrave so uh you could see something similar
there but just love the investment that you have to make with them again late round pick if you're
inclined to take two tight ends you could easily be somebody that you cut before the middle point
of the season or can turn into something because won't be Bowers, but could be the second best tight end in this class.
Team name Tuesday on a Monday.
Sin it to win it.
I'm sure there'll be a lot of those.
Election year two.
Yeah, right. Senator.
Senator.
In Washington, the West? Yeah, from
Cody, Fantasy Cops.
Hey, guys, so I'm going to, this is not loud enough.
I got to start this over.
You know, I'm sorry.
YouTubers, close, cover your ears.
Oh, yeah.
From Cody.
I'm in a dynasty super flex league, and the morning of our draft,
the guy with the first pick, pick 101, asked if anyone would want to talk trades.
An important side note.
For whatever reason, the linear non-snake draft that we were doing and have done for four years had registered as a snake draft.
While the guy with 101 and I were messaging about the trade, the other members were talking about correcting the snake draft error in the main
league chat. The holder of pick 101 and I messaged privately and we agreed on trading pick 101
for my 106, 210, and Drew Locke. I accepted and some other league members started commenting on
perceived lopsidedness.
My trade partner said, it's a snake draft, so 210 is basically a first-round pick.
The other members corrected him, letting him know that the draft was changed back to linear while we were negotiating, but before our trade was completed,
probably 10 minutes into a 20-minute negotiation session.
Okay, this trade caused a protest, and the commissioner vetoed the trade.
My argument was that the snake problem was solved in the main league chat while we were
both active and had a chance to see, and I was very clear on trading 2.10 and not my
other second rounder, 2.6.
Should the trade have stood because we both had the chance to know what was going on,
or should it have been vetoed
it's clearly a mistake to have the snake draft especially if no one in the league talked about
it before draft day like no one brought it up saying hey why don't we change it to a snake
draft this year no the commissioner messed up the settings especially the last four years
had been linear drafts so it should be a linear draft. Here's what should
have gone down. The commissioner should have gone to both teams participating in the trade and said,
do you want to keep this trade? Here's where the picks are now. And if either team says,
no, I don't want to do it, then the trade is reversed. It's as simple as that.
I agree. Yep. And I believe these people, I think this person got into the league from
our Facebook group or something like
that. This is like listeners in the league or I don't know. It's an FFT connection. That's why I
read this. I appreciate that. That's awesome. I love that. There's another guy who sent an email
about how unhappy he is with his league of like 26 years or something. He wants a new league.
This is what the Facebook group and Twitter, I guess, could be for. We'll help you find
league mates. We'll help you find new fantasy
football friends. I love the little community that we've developed here. So yeah, Dave and Jamie have
got it here with the Fantasy Cops. Thank you very much to Cody. Thank you very much to all of you
for watching and listening. Thanks to Nada for producing today and for the rest of the week.
And we will see you at 2 p.m. Eastern on CBS Sports Network. Talk to you then, everybody.