Fantasy Football Today - Updated Top 5 Overall; Rankings Risers/Fallers; Steelers-Browns (09/21 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: September 21, 2022If we were drafting today, who would be in the Top 5 (3:05)? Have we seen enough concerning signs from Christian McCaffrey and Austin Ekeler to move them out? How seriously do we take Saquon Barkley,... D'Andre Swift, Stefon Diggs and the top tight ends? ... Heath gives you three players who have moved up (14:00) and three who have moved down (22:00) since the start of the season. He is higher on Garrett Wilson, Drake London and Christian Kirk. He is lower on Travis Etienne and a couple of Bears. We also have some news and notes (30:00) and a Steelers-Browns preview (33:35)! Are we starting Najee Harris this week? Is Kareem Hunt a better option? Do we go back to Amari Cooper? ... Buy low and sell high candidates from our listeners (42:00)! A lot of Najee talk, plus CEH, CeeDee Lamb, Kyle Pitts and more. We also talk about quarterback buy low opportunities (51:25) and Heath gives us more risers and fallers in his rankings (56:30) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Welcome to your Wednesday edition of Fantasy Football Today.
A two-man show. Adam Azer and Heath Cummings here.
We have a Carson Wentz fight scheduled for today.
Wow. Some things never change, Heath.
Yeah, well, I've always been a huge Carson Wentz supporter.
I believe in the thread of bad Twitter takes is a Carson Wentz is an elite quarterback take from one Adam Azer.
And I will try to live up to that.
I think that used to be true.
Of course, some people would disagree with that.
And, yeah, I think we're going to debate Russell Wilson versus Carson Wentz.
I could make myself feel better and just do a Twitter poll because I do.
Actually, I have no idea who would win that.
I ran a Twitter poll for just this week.
Who would you rather start?
Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, or Carson Wentz?
And Carson Wentz beat all three of them.
I would definitely prefer him to those two old washed-up quarterbacks in Green Bay and Tampa Bay.
Which of the two are the old washed-up quarterbacks?
Well, they're a lot older than Russell Wilson.
Yeah, I mean, it's just a matter of the weapons
and the defenses and whatnot.
I think I'd start Wilson over...
Yeah, I'd start Wilson over Wentz this week.
I'm worried about Wentz this week, Heath.
We're going to get into that game on Friday
as part of our NFC home games.
But, man, the Eagles' defense is really good, and they do not give up big plays.
They didn't last year.
They so far are not doing it this year.
They have two top cornerbacks.
This could be a tough week for him.
Yeah, if you were trying to put together a roster of short area passing targets,
you could do worse than what the Washington football team commanders have surrounded Carson Wentz with,
like JD McKissick, Logan Thomas, Antonio Gibson.
But he needs those big plays.
I think he needs those big plays.
He needs to chuck it downfield,
the Dotson and McLaurin a little bit.
He's got to hope he can be as good as Jared Goff was in week one.
Yeah, but Cousins was terrible.
But you're right.
I mean, the Eagles are a little Jekyll and Hyde.
All right.
Anyway, more starter.
But it's more of a rest of season type of episode.
Coming up on today's show, we're redrafting the top five.
We are talking about players who have moved the most in the rankings for Heath based on the preseason. We're looking at the Steelers-Browns game and
giving you a little bit of a preview there. Trade Talk will be more of the second half of the show.
I have plenty of your buy low and sell highs from Twitters, and we'll react to that from the
Twitter, and emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com and your tweets. All right, so if you're redrafting today, give me your top five.
And by the way, the current top five in PPR scoring non-quarterbacks
is Stephon Diggs, Cooper Cup, Tyreek Hill, Amandra St. Brown, Jalen Waddell.
That's your top five with Justin Jefferson, six.
And the number one running back in PPR right now is Nick Chubb.
He's number seven.
But it's Diggs, Cup, Tyreek Hill, Amandra St. Brown, and Jalen Waddell.
All right, Heath, give me your top five if you're redrafting today.
And does it matter if this was a three-receiver or two-receiver league?
I'm not going that deep into it.
I almost just put all wide receivers in the top five.
And it's fun that the top five scorers are all wide receivers.
My top five are the same
as they were at the beginning of the year just a different order but it's the same five guys
cooper cup one christian mcafree two jonathan taylor three justin jefferson four austin eckler
five um i haven't seen enough from any enough bad for any of these guys to move them out of my top five. Not even McCaffrey?
And you have him, too, ahead of Taylor.
McCaffrey's seen an almost 20% target share,
and he's averaging five yards per carry,
and he's completely dominating running back touches for the Panthers.
I did a little bit of a tweet thread about this this morning
because it comes back to the same thing as DJ Moore.
It's all about how likely is it that the Panthers are actually going to run
50 plays a game for the rest of the season?
I think they're at 51.5, and you look at what they did last year,
and they were 29th in points last year.
They were dead last in yards per play,
and they ran 65 offensive plays per game
this year they are ranked 16th in points now there's just been some terrible points production
in the league they've still been really bad in terms of points I don't want to say their average
they're 20th in yards per play and they're running 52 offensive plays per game this is not a Ben
McAdoo thing the Giants were top 12 the two years he was offensive coordinator for the Giants in total offensive plays. I just don't think we should
really take very much at all away from the fact that their volume's been so low. Someone suggested
the new offensive coordinator, and I don't think it's McAdoo's fault, but I do think it's possible
that they got off to a slow start because they have a new offensive coordinator. Everyone's learning a new offense, and Baker Mayfield's only been there for, what, six weeks?
Maybe the connection's just not there, and so it's taking longer to get things done.
They're being worse on third down.
But I just don't believe that the Panthers—I have them projected for 61 plays this week.
I'll probably—even if they run 55 plays, I'm probably going to project them for 61 next week.
I just don't think we're to the point yet
where we should accept their Seattle from last year.
Seattle's Seattle from last year.
No, I think that's fine.
I just certainly would not put him ahead of Jonathan Taylor.
I mean, I'm surprised that you still have him once.
I mean, I think they're like five points apart on the season.
Yeah, Taylor had a horrible game in week two.
They obviously could use Michael Pittman
to open things up offensively for them,
but that's, I'm hoping,
going to be the worst game of the year for the Colts.
One thing I really like about Jonathan Taylor,
he's third in the NFL among running backs in routes run.
And now they have run a lot of plays.
They've run the eighth most plays,
but he is running a lot of routes. Jonathan Taylor,
he had seven targets in week one.
He had only one in week two.
So I don't think you have anything to worry about with Jonathan Taylor.
How did they get shut out?
And he touched the ball 10 times.
It's pathetic.
Yeah.
I don't even understand that.
I guess they just got behind big and they just ran,
ran,
ran.
But I'm sorry.
Through,
through,
through.
Like I said,
basically I moved cooper cup
to number one overall because i and i said this if he's going to be the player he was in 2021 he
should be drafted first overall yeah i expected some regression there's been absolutely no sign
of regression from cooper cup alan robinson is not taking any targets away from him. So he should be number one.
I think the only other change was I moved Jefferson ahead of Austin Eckler.
Other than that, it's just the same five.
I want to talk a little bit more about Eckler,
but there were, I would say, five players when I was thinking about this.
Because Dave, by the way, also, he's not on the show today,
but he did give a top five, and his is Cup, Taylor, Eckler, Jefferson, McCaffrey.
It is the same five as Heath, but in a different order.
Five players or so that came to mind,
maybe they should be in the top five if we were redrafting today.
And just give me your quick thoughts.
Saquon Barkley, he is top four in routes run among running backs
and getting a ton of touches.
Saquon Barkley.
Yeah, Barkley, if his week two had looked anything at all like his
week one i i would probably agree with that guy i was almost there um but the the week two was was
really there were some things in giants that made me think week one was kind of the aberration you
know what happened i didn't i read about this i didn't notice it or anything but uh he faced a
lot a lot more eight-man fronts in week two
than he did in week one,
and the blueprint's out now,
and they really slowed down Saquon Barkley,
but he's so involved in the passing game.
I would say at least first-round pick now
if you're redrafting,
or much closer to it.
The only reason,
definitely first-round pick
if we took just as many running backs in the first round as
we were but there might be enough wide receivers in the first round that you don't yeah speaking
of which stefan diggs i think has a case as a top five player if you told me that gabe davis was not
going to play anymore this year then stefan diggs would 100 be a top five player for me yeah well
even in week one he was terrific but, but yeah, Alan just looks so good
right now. Um, let's see, uh, who else came to mind? Deandre Swift. That that's one. He's a guy
that I am struggling with so much. Like I, I think I made it clear last year how I feel about Deandre
Swift as a player. Um, and he, he currently is top five in the league in both yards before contact per rush and yards after contact per rush, which is exceptionally rare.
But also, he's played two games and he has 20 carries and five catches.
That's not the profile of a top five pick at all.
Yeah, well, let's make this a little trade talky here, right?
Because DeAndre Swift, he was limited in week two, right?
So the touches were low in week two.
Week one, they were much higher.
But he does not appear to be the goal linebacker.
In fact, Jamal Williams appears to have that role right now.
That could change.
There have been some times where Swift has had to come off the field
because he's had a really long catch or a really long run
that set up first and goal.
But it does look like Williams is that guy, and that's not good.
But Swift is playing so well.
You mentioned the yards before contact.
I mean, the offensive line is just plowing through people.
Swift has a 50-yard run and a 20-plus yard catch in each of his first two games.
So if the workload gets there, then he's got – I mean, I think he has RB1 potential.
I don't know how you feel about that.
Like, is the workload going to get to the point
where should we be valuing Swift?
How should we be valuing Swift right now?
Because on one hand, he doesn't have the workload
that you want from a first-round player.
On the other hand, he's playing so well,
but he also has injury history, and he's already hurt.
So is he a round one kind of guy,
or is he still a round two kind of guy?
He's a round one kind of guy.
I would rather have Swift than Barkley.
But it's still the end of round one.
I'm trying to think of running backs who we drafted.
I had Swift ahead of Najee already, but definitely ahead of Najee Harris.
Dalvin Cook?
He's one of the big fallers.
I think I'd still probably take Dalvin Cook, but it's really close.
This week, they face each other, and that might
like, we might see Dalvin
Cook stake his claim, or
Swift might be clearly ahead of him after this week.
And there are two other running backs that I think you could make
the case. If you were just a running back guy, you could
just make the case, based on usage,
they deserve to be top five
running backs. Joe Mixon and Leonard Fournette.
You just wish Mixon were more efficient right now the offensive line stinks um but he's running a ton of routes
he has a ton of catches i think he i think fournette and mixon are top two and carry so far
um you know i don't know it's too complicated these guys are you know i have mix in top five
and non-ppr so yeah i don't you could make the argument for either one of them.
Okay.
And what about Kelsey and Andrews
as we see the way the tight end position is unfolding this year?
I feel really good about having drafted both of them at the end of round one.
I can't quite get all the way up to top five.
But, yeah, they're round one picks.
Okay.
Last thing in this subject here is Austin Eckler.
He's played just 49% and 63% of the snaps so far.
Going into the fourth quarter in week two,
it was only 60% of the snaps.
Then he played 69% of the snaps in the fourth quarter
in a comeback effort.
We did see a similar start to last season for Eckler
with the snap count kind of low in the first two weeks
and got better as the season went on. He also came off the field at the goal line in week two. It wasn't the
case in week one, but Sonny Michel worked there in week two. And it just hasn't been a great start
for Eckler, but you haven't seen enough to move him out of your top five. You have him fifth overall.
Dave has him third overall. So does that mean we can definitely apply the buy low tag on Eckler?
Yeah, if someone is like, I think it would have been easier to buy low at halftime of that Chiefs game or the end of the third quarter.
It's more difficult after he puts up a nine catch performance.
And you remember what kind of PPR upside he has.
Like basically anyone who's touching the ball 20 times a game and hasn't scored a touchdown yet is a is a buy low candidate.
All right.
So that is our
current top five plus some talk about some more elite players we have an offensive line interview
that dave did he did he talked to former jacksonville offensive lineman uche waneri might
do that a few times throughout the season and that's going to be a youtube youtube exclusive
piece of content that's going to publish later today on Wednesday about 1 p.m. Eastern or
so. Just go to youtube.com
fantasy football today. I had an
interview with Uche Winery before the
season started talking about offensive lines. He's
extremely insightful. He played
I don't know six seven seasons or so
with the Jaguars. I'll tell you right now
and one two three four
five six seven seasons
and had a really nice career and offered
a lot of really great insight when I spoke to him. So looking forward to hearing what he had to tell
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your question, and there's a good chance it'll be read. So I asked you, Heath, for the players that
have moved up or down the most in your rankings. So we're going to finish it later in the show,
but this is part one. Give me three. Remember we used to do a baseball segment, three up, three down,
give me three up and three down. So these are players who have, who are, you are legitimately
higher on than you were before the season started and legitimately lower on three up.
And this would like, this does make me miss one thing about the baseball rankings process. We
constantly had a rest of season
rankings during baseball season because we didn't have to do weekly rankings. And I do wish that I
was able to maintain a rest of season rankings for football as well, but alas, I am only one man.
The three that have moved up the most would likely be all wide receivers, Garrett Wilson, Drake London, and Christian Kirk.
All right. I'm going to be negative about all three of them just for fun.
Just for fun.
Good. I appreciate it. And I think you probably believe it on the rookies and don't believe it
on Kirk. Is that correct?
No, I believe it more on Kirk. No. First of all, I didn't just call you a moron, even though I said moron.
I believe it for all three of them.
It's Carson Wednesday.
You should call me an idiot moron.
I believe it for all three of them.
I have questions about just how good they can be.
I didn't go back and get a chance to look.
I'm wondering if Elijah Moore saw a lot of Denzel Ward in week two and that freed things up for Wilson.
But my bigger concern for Garrett Wilson is just Zach Wilson.
I said this on the air last night on our live stream with Dan Schneier.
There were three quarterbacks that I thought looked dreadful in the preseason.
Zach Wilson was one of them.
It was only one drive, but I just thought he looked terrible.
Davis Mills was another.
He's off to a bad start.
And Trey Lance was another.
Too early to judge, but he was bad in week one.
So I'm worried about Zach Wilson.
And just worried about Garrett.
Eli Moore's not going away.
And they've thrown 15 more passes than anyone else.
So it's an ideal start for Garrett Wilson, basically.
Yeah, and I've got some confirmation bias going on here
because I thought before the draft that Garrett Wilson
was the best wide receiver in this class. He was an elite prospect all the way going back to high school
when he was a five-star recruit, earned a 26% target share at Ohio State playing alongside
Chris Alave, blazing fast speed. And just like you've seen the videos this week on Twitter,
an incredible route runner. Some of these things he does as a route runner, one of his teammates,
DJ Reed said he has that Justin Jefferson vibe.
No one wants to cover him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
I thought you were done.
Um, and the, there was also something that came out,
the Jets coaches and general manager met after week one.
And one of the things that came out of that meeting was they all agreed
Garrett Wilson had to be more involved.
Um, like there's just,
he's a top 10 pick with absolute elite pedigree who just earned 14 targets in
his second NFL game.
It's the same thing that we said going into the year or after the drafts,
like we really liked all of these wide receivers,
but just didn't really like their situations.
I, receivers but just didn't really like their situations i i really don't believe that joe
flacco is going to play one or two more games and then zach wilson's going to come in and be given
the opportunity to stink all year long i kind of do you can't then they have to determine right
away that they're moving on from zach wilson Not necessarily right away, but he was awful last year.
He was terrible in the preseason.
If he comes out, and let's say hypothetically they're 2-2,
and then Zach Wilson takes over, and all of a sudden they're 2-5,
and he's playing just as bad as he has the first,
I think that they're going to try to win games.
That's fair.
The schedule looks kind of rough for Wilson.
He's got the Bengals.
Steelers might not be tough.
Bengals, Dolphins, Packers, Denver, New England,
and Buffalo before the bye.
So some solid defenses there.
All right.
It's really just a matter of I just wonder what his upside is.
Do you think Garrett Wilson is a number two or a number three
or a number four receiver going forward?
Borderline number two wide receiver he's pretty
much and i would view him like most people view brandon cooks and tyler lockett and they say man
i don't know when to start him and i say i'm just going to start him every week because i don't want
those 30 points on my bench ever again okay drake london no no concerns about the talent here. He's obviously, you know, he and Kyle Pitts
are the only players really consistently involved.
They're both, they've run 57 and 56 routes respectively
for the Falcons, and no one else has run more than 37.
So it's a two-man show.
My only concern is this team really wants
to run the ball, it seems.
I mean, they were down so big against the Falcons
and Mariota through against the Rams.
They trailed 28 to 10 going into the fourth quarter.
Mariota threw 26 passes in the full game.
And then Kyle Pitts, you know,
Kyle Pitts eventually is going to get more involved.
So same question for London.
He's a number two, a number three, a number four receiver.
And it's not going to be a number four receiver. And do you like him better or worse than Garrett Wilson? These guys are just
right there, neck and neck for me. I think there may be 21 and 22 in my rankings this week,
and they'd be very close to that rest of season. I think both of them have the upside that if
absolutely everything goes right, they could be top 12 wide receivers at the end of the year.
Drake London has less competition for targets than Kyle Pitts. There will be fewer targets, but that's okay. The math works out pretty much the same. I think both these guys
are at a 21, 22% target share for the rest of the year, if not higher for London.
And London right now is a 33% target share. Pitts is 18%. Would you rather have...
Okay, so who have you moved them ahead of?
Have you moved them ahead of...
Okay, DK Metcalf, you take these guys over.
Brandon Cooks?
No.
Not DJ Moore?
No.
Alan Robinson?
Oh, yeah.
Wilson and London.
Okay.
Basically, it's those guys that...
And I think a great guy to ask about is Drake
London versus Garrett Wilson versus Gabe Davis.
And you'll just find out that everybody who drafted Gabe Davis prefers him and everybody
who didn't prefers the rookies.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm just going to go with the offense there.
I'm just, you know, it's just, I just don't know how much I can trust the Jets and Falcons
passing games.
There just might be too many down weeks.
Yeah.
And I think like the, the thing with Davis is like, we've only seen one game, so we don't know how much I can trust the Jets and Falcons passing games. There just might be too many down weeks. Yeah. And I think like the,
the thing with Davis is like,
we've only seen one game,
so we don't know that much,
but if it's five to six targets a week,
um,
there's going to be some down games there,
even in a great offense.
And then Christian Kirk,
here's my only problem with Christian Kirk.
I don't love his next two games,
the chargers and the Eagles.
If he can come out of these two games with one really good performance, doesn't even have to be two, then we might owe
him a huge apology for crapping on the contract. And Christian Kirk might be one of the true
steals in fantasy. And Heath, I would take him over Garrett Wilson and Drake London rest of
season. I'm really excited about Christian Kirk. I'm all in.
Yeah, I don't worry about the schedule or the matchups too much.
So that part doesn't bother me.
I have him, like, it's almost back to back to back.
I have him currently at 19, Wilson at 21,
London at 22.
I would slightly prefer Kirk in full PPR. In non-PPR, I might go
with the other guys, but he's going to make some big plays too. So yeah, these are all three low
end number two wide receivers. I've got all three ahead of Terry McLaurin, who is, I think, one of
the guys who moved down for me. I like Christian Kirk because even in a tough matchup, he'll move
to the slot. He'll play enough in the slot where he won't have to face
the toughest cornerbacks.
And he's not a slot receiver like Jarvis Landry
who's not going to go downfield at all.
I kind of like that profile on a player.
Move him into the slot,
but don't limit him to just short area targets.
I like to check his slot percentage.
I'm going to do that.
While you tell me the three players
that you have moved down in your rankings,
three of the players that you've moved down.
Yeah, Travis Etienne, Darnell Mooney, and Cole Komet.
And the Bears are connected.
It's not even an anti-Justin Fields take.
He's only thrown 28 passes this year.
We have no idea how much he's improved as a passer or hasn't.
He's thrown one fewer pass than Dak Prescott.
And I just think that, especially the way that Montgomery ran against the Packers,
it's possibly that they're going to design a run offense that's good enough that keeps them in games
and their schedule's easy enough, they win a few, that there's just not a major change in philosophy.
And if they are throwing the ball even 20 or 25 times a game, I just don't think there's enough volume for Mooney or Kmet to be players that you even consider using in fantasy.
I saw Mooney dropped in a couple of leagues, and I'm not quite ready to do that. I didn't drop him
with any of my waiver claims this week, but I can certainly see that on the horizon,
especially if something doesn't happen positive against the Texans.
Yeah, and I dropped Cole Komet for Hayden Hurst
in a league where I'm 0-2, podcast league.
I changed my team name to Kometment Issues.
And yeah, I need some points.
I would think he'd be better than Hayden Hurst the rest of the season,
but Hayden Hurst, you know, you might get like seven, eight points
as a floor or something in a full PPR league.
And I cannot say that Cole Komet's floor is even two points right now.
They're just kind of a mess.
The passing game does not have a floor currently.
Right.
The floor is in the basement.
ETN, he did get nine carries in week two, which was nice.
They ran the ball a lot because they crushed the Colts.
Yeah, and I'm lower on James Robinson, not that I was.
I'm higher on him than I was,
but I'm lower on him than I think where consensus is.
I just, this looks like pretty close to a full-blown committee, and I don't think I
want to have a committee back on the Jacksonville offense.
I'm a little more bullish, I guess, on the Jacksonville offense.
I think they're solid.
You don't?
They've played, and again, you don't think the commanders are as bad defensively as I
do.
I actually think they are right now.
I think they're going to get better, though.
They're terrible right now.
Yeah.
And then they face the Colts without half their starting defense.
They've been provided no resistance or test whatsoever.
I didn't realize the Colts were so banged up.
I know they didn't have Shaq Leonard, but they had Kenny Moore.
They didn't have DeForest Buckner.
Moore, Kenny Moore. They didn't have DeForest Buckner.
Kenny Moore was playing but hurt.
Well, I confess I somehow did not know that they did not have DeForest Buckner.
How did I not know that?
That's unlike me.
No, they did have DeForest Buckner.
They did?
Yeah.
How many?
Did he?
Yeah, he played.
I don't know what his snap count was.
Okay.
Well, that was my bet then.
Yeah, because he's a very good run stuffer. Well, think well and they didn't i mean they think they averaged i don't know what
robinson averaged oh they stunk robinson had to play as many snaps but he played over half the snaps so 70 robinson had one big run and they struggled to run the ball other than that i just
i like i think they're aggressive um and uh i don't know i'm just I'm watching a lot of their film
because I've been watching a lot of Travis Etienne
to see what's going on there.
They left some points off the board in week one.
I don't know. I'm hopeful.
I'm impressed with Doug Peterson so far.
Maybe I'm biased because I have a lot of Christian Kirk.
I guess I have a lot of James Robinson.
I am very excited.
Like I said, I'm excited for Kirk,
and I think Evan Ingram can be a thing
as a low-end starting tight end.
I don't think they're going to be good running the ball
and I think they're going to split it up too much.
If you were 0-2 right now,
really struggling with your team,
would you look to be getting...
You don't have to be 0-2, whatever.
Let's say you just wanted someone who...
No, actually 0-2 is the worst example.
Maybe if you were 2-0,
would you look at Travisvis etn or breese hall and hope that they wouldn't even need an injury that they would just get more work in the second half and be big time
contributors i have no problem if you're two and oh with buying talented guys that you can put on
your bench and hope that they eventually turn into what we thought they could be. I think that's a good plan.
I don't want to do that if I have to start Hall or Etienne.
Would you trade Daryl Henderson for them?
Yeah.
Would you trade Miles Sanders for Hall or Etienne?
I think they're kind of the same thing.
I think Miles Sanders would have made my list
of rankings movers.
You got to really like
what you're seeing
so far from him.
He looks kind of like
a must start right now
as a number two guy.
Certainly not as a number one.
Where do you have him this week?
I don't.
He's like 22nd,
I think, for me this week.
He's been pretty close to what we expected, hasn't he?
I think he's had a much bigger share.
Gainwell and Scott are basically irrelevant.
And I think that's awesome.
And I think for Sanders.
And he catches some passes, you know,
gets you two, three a game.
It's not, you know what,
their offense is just so much better
than even I could have imagined.
They just, they look so good.
Jalen Hurts, I thought they were going to be really good,
but I didn't think Jalen Hurts would be this good.
It's been such a weird start still,
because like as awesome as Jalen Hurts has been,
he's thrown one touchdown pass.
Right, yeah, but he's still got to be a top four QB or something.
Actually, probably not because two is probably ahead of him.
I know Jackson, Allen.
I think he's better in four-point-per-pass touchdown leagues,
obviously, because he only has one touchdown pass.
Sure, yeah.
In our standard scoring, well, it looks like he is currently QB6, right behind Carson Wentz.
More on him in a little bit.
Heath, I went to an event, Bat Mitzvah, over the weekend.
I needed to look good.
This is not a lie.
I think you know what I wore.
I wore my Indochino suit.
Real quick, before we get into Indochino, here's your poll question of the day.
What is fancier, in your opinion? A jacket with no tie or a tie with no jacket?
Tie with no jacket.
Boy, I get a lot of disagreement on that. Let's get a YouTube poll going, Schaefer.
What's fancier, tie with no jacket or jacket with no tie? But Indochino, it's not about being fancy.
It's about looking good. It's about feeling good.
I love putting on my Indochino suit. I feel good. I have a little bit of a swagger in it.
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Well, I have a lot of suits, and I've gone to tailors and all those things, and none
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They will get it absolutely perfect for you.
You customize every detail, obviously the color, the pleats, the monogram on the inside,
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The lining on the inside of the jacket, which is
always fun. It's fun to build a suit like that. And you're just going to feel better wearing it.
You're going to be more excited to wear it. Like I said, a little swag gets you excited to put on
some... Because you're looking good. You get excited to look good. So I encourage you to go
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Quick look at the news and notes.
Chris Godwin is questionable.
And Mike Evans has appealed his suspension.
So we don't know how depleted that receiving core will be.
And we'll update you on that.
We'll know much more later today.
Akeem Hicks, though, for the Bucs starting defensive tackle.
He is out a month with a foot injury.
And they have allowed 4.56 yards per carry to running backs.
They've been below four each of the previous three years.
And they've allowed five yards per carry to a running back with 10 carries in each of the last two games, each of the first two games, Zeke and Ingram.
So, run defense not what it had been thus far.
Dalton Schultz, it looks like he's going to miss this week's game against the Giants, but
he may only miss
that one game. Could be back
in week four, Dalton Schultz.
Houston center Justin Britt
is on the reserve
non-football illness list. He missed
week two, and he will miss some time
it seems. Hopefully come back soon. Justin Britt,
Texans center. San Francisco
signed Marlon Mack Heath. He was
on the practice squad. Now he's on the active roster.
Does Marlon Mack matter for the 49ers?
Well, I'm going to
tentatively place him
in the week seven waiver wire.
All right.
Seattle and
Pittsburgh both talked about being more
aggressive in the passing game.
That resonate with you at all?
I wonder, I'd like clarification.
What do they mean by that?
Well, Gino wants to throw the ball downfield more.
And Trubisky does too.
I don't think that's probably going to work out very well for anyone.
We'll find out soon.
We're going to look at that Thursday night game.
And Giants defensive tackle Leonard Williams,
unlikely to play this week.
Very good player,
both against the run and against the pass.
He plays,
he's an Ironman and his streak,
whatever it may be,
is about to get broken.
It seems Monday night game Giants at Dallas Giants hosting Dallas.
All right,
quick shout out of the day.
We got an email from Bryce.
Bryce says,
Hey,
Adam, would you
please say pga tour on the podcast i'm curious if it'll sound like an abbreviated form of the way
you say tournament or if you'll say it like normal people don't do character like don't don't do that
just say it the way you say tournament tournament tournament that's not that's different. Anyway, there you go. So can you say there is a PGA Tour tournament this week?
There's a PGA Tour tournament.
What do I say?
What is wrong with that?
I don't even know what I'm doing wrong.
Nothing.
Nothing at all.
It's delightful.
It sounds normal to me.
Anyway, the reason Bryce is emailing is,
one of my best friends, Bryce says,
one of my best friends was recently diagnosed with ALS.
He's a huge fantasy football player.
He loves the show.
Listens to you guys every day, seriously.
We cite things you say all the time
and are always trying to think about
outlandish fantasy cops questions.
All of which brings me to the point, finally,
and that is, would you be willing to give a shout-out to Reed?
He's a great guy.
If you ignore the fact that meeting Dave Richard
would probably rate higher than his wedding day.
Gotta go buy.
Shout-out to Reed.
Shout-out to Reed.
And I can say, having met Dave Richard, I understand that.
Reed, we wish you nothing but the best, man.
Hang in there.
Keep listening.
And we love you, buddy.
All right, Pittsburgh at Cleveland.
I cannot say we love you to this game.
Thursday night.
Look, if you don't have to cover fantasy football,
you have our permission to seek other plans on Thursday night.
Pittsburgh at Cleveland.
Although, you know, every time I say that about a game,
it always ends up being really exciting at the end.
Your stat of the game is just about how bad the Steelers' offense is.
Mitchell Trubisky has attempted four red zone passes.
So has Tom Brady, unfortunately.
In two games, they have gained 267 and 243 yards.
Only the Bears and Seahawks have gained fewer yards than the Steelers.
Only the Texans have averaged fewer yards per play.
I can also give you a stat of the game, Heath,
about how good the Browns were last year
and so far have been this year
against past catching running backs,
which may be where Najee Harris has to, you know, make his day.
They did give up a 10-yard touchdown catch to Brees Hall.
I'm aware of that.
But they've held Christian McCaffrey and Michael Carter in check.
McCaffrey had 33 yards and a touchdown rushing.
No, I'm sorry, he had 24 yards receiving.
So Michael Carter and McCaffrey had 23 and 24 yards receiving.
And last year, they held C.E.H. Montgomery, Dalvin Cook, Chase Edmonds, Najee Harris twice, DeAndre Swift, and Aaron Jones to fewer than 30 yards.
So I wonder how that factors into
your evaluation of Najee Harris, and are you even starting Najee Harris this week?
I'm probably starting Najee Harris. I mean, if I picked up Jeff Wilson, then I would start him
over Najee. I would start Clyde over Najee. I'd start Miles Sanders over Najee. But he's a top 24 running back, just barely.
And I think most people who have him should start him.
If you could flex, would you start Garrett Wilson
and Drake London and Christian Kirk over him,
over Najee Harris?
Definitely not non-PPR, but in full PPR,
very, very close.
They're basically tied in the projections.
I'd probably stick with Najee.
Yeah, I mean, look, he hasn't been that bad.
Week one, he scored.
Week two, he had five catches and 89 total yards.
But he is, you know, you talked about DeAndre Swift before and after contact
being a lead in both.
Najee Harris is 39th among running backs
in yards before contact per rush, 36 in yards after contact per rush. Would you start Kareem
Hunt or Najee Harris? I would start Najee over Kareem Hunt. I've got Kareem Hunt basically in
the same place that I had him last week. A flex, a good flex, but a flex flex how about amari cooper or those running backs
i would start both the running backs over amari cooper right it was a great performance from
cooper i just is one of those these things where we have one terrible game and one really good game
i have a hard time deciphering which one i'm supposed to believe i mean i don't expect anyone
to have great games week after week with Jacoby
Brissett, but I lean more toward the start as a number three guy, because you are the lowest on
him. Dave and Jamie have Cooper 36, like right around number three, number four receiver. You
have him 45th in full PPR, and you have Cooper not even in the top 48 in non-PPR. So you have him as
a number four or five guy, whereas Dave and you have him as a number 4-5 guy,
whereas Dave and Jamie have Cooper as a 3-4.
I guess they said that they wanted to get him more involved,
and they did.
I didn't hear that,
but I heard it on the broadcast during the game.
I didn't hear that before the game.
So they made it a point.
The Steelers have been dreadful against wide receivers.
Three wide receivers have reached 95 yards in two games,
and one of them was Jamar Chase,
but the others were Nelson Aguilar and Jacoby Myers.
So, yeah, I don't know.
I mean, if he's at the highest, he's 36th wide receiver,
he's not going to be started in all that many leagues.
Kareem Hunt is a no, I'm sorry, Nick Chubb is a no doubt about it.
We know what to do with Brissette and Trubisky.
How about Deontay Johnson?
How do you feel about Deontay Johnson this week?
He has had 55 to 57 yards on 10 to 12 targets in both games.
No touchdowns.
Yeah, it's kind of like what I said about...
I don't remember now, but if you had 20 touches a game
and you hadn't scored any touchdowns, you're probably a buy low.
If you're getting 12 targets a game and you're not scoring touchdowns,
you're probably a buy low.
I'm starting Deontay Johnson as a number two wide receiver.
Okay.
You would definitely start Amonra St. Brown over him.
Would you start Corlin Sutton or?
Sutton.
Sutton.
Okay.
Let me get some more wide receivers here. They've got Denzel Ward. Would you start Corlin Sutton or? Sutton. Sutton, okay.
Let me get some more wide receivers here.
Because, you know, look, they've got Denzel Ward.
He's not going to shadow Deontay Johnson most likely.
He doesn't do that.
He stays on his side, but he'll see some Deontay.
Would you start Michael Thomas or Deontay Johnson?
Thomas at Carolina. I would start Deontay Johnson.
Would you start CeeDee Lamb at the Giants?
Yes, Lamb.
Oh, you have them back-to-back.
Lamb, then Deontay.
Okay, so start Deontay Johnson.
How about Jeff Wilson or Deontay Johnson?
Wilson in non-PPR, Deontay in full, and in half, it's probably Deontay.
No interest in Claypool?
No, it's Wilson in half.
No interest in Claypool or Pickens?
No interest in Claypool or Pickens. No interest in Claypool or Pickens.
No interest in Peoples Jones?
No interest in Peoples Jones.
Start Pat Frymuth.
Yeah, give me some tight ends you'd start Frymuth over.
Most of them.
He's a top six guy.
I would start him...
I'd start him over George Kittle.
If Kittle comes back, I'd start him over TJ Hawkinson.
I'd start him over Zach Ertz.
I'd start him over TJ Hawkinson. I'd start him over Zach Ertz. I'd start him over all the streamers.
I think we're
pretty much good here. How about the DSTs?
Which one do you like better?
You ask me these
questions. Well, you have to rank them.
I know you have DST rankings.
I do have them ranked. I have the Browns ranked higher.
Boy, they've been so disappointing.
The Browns have scored 10 fantasy points in two games.
They were mine and I think everybody's favorite DST for the beginning of the year.
One, because we thought they'd be good.
Two, because they faced the Panthers and the Jets, and they've been bad.
They allowed 24 points to the Panthers, 31 points to the Jets,
and they don't have Jadeveon Clowney.
The Steelers, meanwhile, 27 points of the Jets, and they don't have Jadeveon Clowney. The Steelers, meanwhile,
27 points at the Bengals.
They score,
the DST scored 27 points.
DST scoring is different
in every league,
I get that.
Six points against the Steelers,
but noticeably worse
without TJ Watt.
They had seven sacks
in week one.
They had one in week two.
Are they both good DSTs,
or would you go
to the waiver wire?
I would just start them okay nah nah nah nah nah nah sit david njoku we'll take a break when we come back buy low sell high more players that have moved up or down in the rankings for
heath cummings but we're going to hear from you with your buy low and sell high candidates and
we're going to crap all over all of your suggestions. No, just kidding. We will be right back on Fantasy Football today.
Oh, my phone is ringing.
I've got to turn that off here.
Welcome back, everybody.
How unprofessional.
I can't imagine.
I always get blamed for that and it seems like it's not always my fault.
You said sit David Njoku.
Is he still rostered?
I don't know.
A percentage of leagues?
When I do my Thursday...
What should we do with Harrison Bryant?
That's the more relevant question, I think.
Why don't you guess Njoku's roster percentage?
57%.
It's 41%.
41%.
When I break down a game on Tuesday,
I never put the roster percentages in
for a guy like Njoku
because I figure he's going to get dropped.
Yeah.
Yeah, drop David Njoku, I guess is what I should have said.
Okay.
Buy low, sell high.
I asked you on Twitter who your buy lows, who your sell highs.
James Shattle says buy low on Marquise Brown
and sell high on Antonio Gibson.
I think Antonio Gibson is probably the most popular sell high.
The problem is finding someone who doesn't already know that. But if you can sell high on Antonio Gibson. I think Antonio Gibson is probably the most popular sell high. The problem is finding someone who doesn't already know that.
But if you can sell high on Antonio Gibson, I would do that.
I am not as interested in buying low on Marquise Brown.
I do not believe that DeAndre Hopkins coming back
is going to make things better for Brown.
I do not understand what's going on with Marquise Brown.
He does have 17 targets in two games.
He's got two respectable games.
14.3 PPR points.
12.8 PPR points.
What is going on here? Why is he not
better? I'm not sure we know the answer to that.
I think maybe
just our expectations
were a little too high for him. I think he's just
a boom bust borderline number two
wide receiver. Yeah. What do you think he'll be? And, and, but honestly you might be able to
buy low on him with the idea that he's a borderline number two wide receiver. Cause people
might be really down on him. And you know, what's funny is James, when he wrote by low on Brown,
he actually thinks Hopkins coming back would be a good thing for him. We don't. But at the same time, Marquise Brown's off to a slow start.
Hopkins is coming back after four more games.
People might be really low on Marquise Brown.
And you might be able to just get him for cheap.
Yeah.
I'm trying to think what I would give up for him.
I'd rather have Garrett Wilson and Drake London for sure.
I'd rather have Drake London. I'm not to think what I would give up for him. I'd rather have Garrett Wilson and Drake London for sure. I'd rather have Drake London.
I'm not sure about Wilson,
but I guess I'd rather see where it goes with Wilson.
He might just be great.
I'd rather have Brown than DK Metcalf though.
Okay.
Yeah, I mean, if you could sell Tyler Lockett for him,
if you could sell Marty Cooper for Marquise Brown, I'd do that.
Unless your team is loaded and you're just waiting out
until Hopkins gets back, I guess.
I mean, sorry, until Watson gets back.
All right, from Bay650, buy low on Derek Henry,
sell high on Clyde Edwards-Elair.
Agree with Clyde Edwards-Elair.
If you can get someone to buy as a top 15 running back,
I think he's RB5 for the season right now.
I think you'll have a hard time getting somebody to buy
at what he's been.
But if you could get somebody to buy him
as a top 15 running back, yes.
I still think he's kind of what I thought he was,
a boom bust number two running back
for the rest of the year.
But I'd rather have Clyde right now
than I would Najee Harris.
Is that because of the foot?
It's because it's kind of like the Gabe Davis
versus those rookie wide receivers, maybe.
I'd like to have the guy that's on the good offense.
I just think the Steelers are terrible,
and I don't think things are getting any better for Najee Harris.
Man, I would much rather have Najee Harris.
If you told me they were both going to play the same amount of games,
I'd much rather have Najee Harris than Clyde.
He just has such a bigger role and the most valuable roles too. I mean, he is the goal line guy and the passing downs guy,
pass catching guy. And I don't know week to week. If they're going to get more aggressive
with their passing game, that would tell me fewer targets for Najee. But he's still the running back.
That doesn't mean they're not going to throw to a running back ever. He's still going to be on
the field for almost every running. Right. I think he might see three catches a game
or four catches a game.
And that's kind of where Clyde is right now.
I just think he's going to have
so many more touches.
He will have a lot more carries for sure.
But he needs probably
30%, 20% more carries
to match the expected yards for Clyde.
I wish I could have this passionate argument with you
about how you're way too low on Najee Harris,
but the foot injury lingers in the back of my mind.
Right.
You know, because...
Well, and again, I think it makes sense
that we are all more confident in downgrading these guys
that we were worried about before
or upgrading these guys that we were excited about before.
True.
That's kind of what we do.
And so Najee Harris is on my bust list in June and July.
So a terrible start to the season
is going to make me think he might be a bust.
I know, but behind Clyde Edwards-Elier?
Well, I had Clyde as a top 20 running back
at the end of draft season.
Okay.
From Ariel, buy low on Dalvin Cook and CeeDee Lamb.
Sell high on Michael Thomas and Antonio Gibson.
Gibson we agree with.
I agree with pretty much all of that.
I'm not sure about Michael Thomas.
Yeah, I don't know the sell high case for Michael Thomas, I guess.
Well, I think the case would be where he ranks top 10 right now, right?
Probably.
And he was, last time we saw him fully healthy,
the number one wide receiver in fantasy.
Oh, yeah, you can't be buying that.
That's not what he's going to be.
He's ninth currently.
So if somebody said
that they would trade you mike evans for michael thomas i think i'd rather i'd still rather have
mike evans um yeah but i hate to say this but i would take him over dj more at this point
it's really really close i probably just wouldn't make the trade but i think you
could probably get cd lamb and something for michael thomas and i'd i'd still rather have lamb
sure yeah i i love michael thomas i have a lot of michael thomas i view him as a number two receiver
and you know so if you can get a number one value go for it uh from open wider Sell high on Najee Harris before the wheels fall off
and buy low on CeeDee Lamb and Kyle Pitts.
I don't think we have to rehash the Najee Harris discussion,
but what about Pitts?
The hard part with Pitts is,
because there is like 60% or 50% of Twitter
that just is really anti-Kyle Pitts right now.
But those are not the people who drafted Kyle Pitts.
I don't know the people who drafted Kyle Pitts
are ready to sell low on him at the tight end position yet.
So it might be harder to buy low on Pitts.
I don't know how you could sell high on Najee Harris.
Well, I think you could to someone like me.
You know, because I still think that if someone feels that Najee Harris is a good buy low, I don't even care about the foot injury.
If you could tell me that I – personally, if I could give up Clyde Edwards-Hilaire to get Najee Harris, I would do that in a heartbeat.
You should ask for more than Clyde Edwards-Hilaire for Najee Harris.
Like I made that comment, and it's my personal thing that I wouldn't trade Najee for Clyde Edwards-Hilaire for Najee Harris. I made that comment, and it's my personal thing, but I wouldn't trade Najee for Clyde Edwards-Hilaire.
Get more than that.
I would trade Miles Sanders for...
I would trade any of those guys.
I would trade a Rams running back.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
I would much rather have Najee than both the Rams.
I would trade Garrett Wilson for Najee Harris,
and this is low.
I still think that if we're redrafting today,
Najee Harris' average draft position
is probably going to be in the third
round. That's my guess.
Yeah.
That's how I feel
people would value him as a third round
pick. Would you rather
have Javante Williams or Najee Harris?
Javante.
As far as pits goes, if we're
redrafting today,
you're taking Kittle, Waller, Pitts.
How would you rank them?
Waller, Pitts, Kittle.
If you promised me that Kittle was fine now and was going to play the rest of the season,
the Kittle was, then I would go Waller, Kittle, Pitts.
We pretty much know what to expect from Kittle now. The mystery is
gone. If he's on the field, this is
the 49ers offense and George Kittle is
going to be freaking awesome. Healthy Kittle over Pitts, but
we don't know if he's healthy, so I might take
Pitts over him right now.
This is from Justin
Bellamy. Is it crazy to sell high
on Stefan Diggs? He had his big week
last week without Gabriel Davis.
How high?
What's the point?
He's obviously a top 12 player.
He had eight catches
for 122 yards
and a touchdown
at the Rams in week one.
So I'm not selling high on Diggs.
I'd still rather have Chase,
but...
Me too.
From Tyler, would you sell high on Pittman
with the injury and how bad Matt Ryan looks?
Are you concerned at all?
If you're going to do that,
I think you need to do it after week one.
It'd be really tough.
I think he has to have another big game
for you to be able to sell high on him now.
I don't know what to make of what the Jaguars did
in week two to the Colts,
but remember, Josh Allen had one of his worst games last year,
probably his worst, against the Jaguars.
And, you know, he was fine.
From Jesse,
buy low on Darnell, not a goonie moonie.
He's not a goonie.
Somebody drops him,
and you want to pick him up all the way where?
I think that makes a lot of sense.
From Kale,
sell high on Cortland Sutton.
Russell Wilson is bad.
I'm not selling high on Cortland Sutton. Russell Wilson is bad. I'm not selling high on Cortland Sutton,
but if Jerry Judy...
Well, yeah, I might.
Because I do think if Jerry Judy comes back
and is just fine in a week or two,
that Sutton and Judy are probably
both low-end number twos.
Who do you feel best about buying low on
at the quarterback position?
Tom Brady,
Russell Wilson, or Kirk Cousins? I thought you were going to say Rogers. Cousins or Brady.
Okay. Then throw Rogers in there. Rogers and Wilson. I do not want to buy low on.
I agree with half of that statement. Like Rogers, I think we thought he was a questionable top 12 quarterback
coming into the year.
And so the buy low part would be in like a two QB sense for me.
I wonder if you could buy low on Alan Lazard.
Not that I necessarily want to, but if you believe in him,
missing week one, basically doing nothing besides scoring a
touchdown in week two like there might be people who just think he's a bench receiver i kind of do
yeah i mean i was pretty discouraged he was one of my favorite draft values so i was pretty
discouraged with alan lazard just because they're so run heavy they're gonna i think they're gonna
want to be that run heavy not not that okay not not necessarily that run heavy they're so run heavy. I think they're going to want to be that run heavy. Not necessarily that run heavy.
They're not going to blow out a team every week.
But they obviously want to run the ball.
And every player,
no player had more than three targets
on the team last week.
Then I thought about it.
I looked back at what the Chargers did in week one.
No player had more than four targets
for the Chargers in week one.
And things changed dramatically in week two.
So Lazard played the most snaps by far,
ran the most routes by far.
I still think he's the number one wide receiver.
I maybe have to lower my expectations a little bit,
but I do think I'd say by low.
I don't think he's a bench receiver.
I think he's a bench receiver in a two-receiver league.
Lazard or Juju?
Flip a coin, who cares? No or Juju? Flip a coin.
Who cares?
No,
I care about both of them.
You know,
I'm going to take Juju in full PPR,
Lazard in non or half.
Fair.
Here are a quick round of emails
from Jared.
Oh,
wait,
wait.
No.
Okay.
We'll get into it. We talk once from Jared. I must drop one wait. No, okay. We'll get into it when we talk, Wentz.
From Jared,
I must drop one of these
from my roster before Sunday.
Gallup, Mooney, or Garrett Wilson?
Gallup.
From Vic,
would you guys rather stash
Michael Gallup or Jamison Williams?
If you have, I mean, if you have an IR spot, it's Williams. If you don't, it's Gallup or Jamison Williams? If you have...
I mean, if you have an IR spot,
it's Williams. If you don't, it's Gallup.
From Jeremy.
Dear Gary, Alonzo,
Marcus, and Rudy.
Who is that?
Gary, Alonzo,
Marcus, and Rudy.
That seems like a back-up ball team.
It does.
Those defensive players of the year,
Gary Payton, Alonzo, Mourning, Marcus Smart, and Rudy Gobert?
That would be very impressive, Heath.
In my league, we have the Chiefs and the Saints DSTs available.
I already have the Broncos.
Heath has the Broncos ranked the highest,
but Dave and Jamie don't like them this week.
They love the Chiefs.
They have them number one this week,
while Heath has them 16th.
So if you have the Broncos, Chiefs, and Saints available to you, Heath,
what would you tell Jeremy to do?
I am really a little bit too busy Googling to see
if Lonzo Mourning won defensive player of the year.
And he did.
He must have.
And so I don't know what he meant by that, but 100% I'm claiming credit for that being right.
Yeah, I'll go for that.
I also don't know.
Yeah, Rudy Gobert certainly had to have won it.
Anyway, why do I hate the Chiefs defense?
They have them number one yeah against the colts
um they can't do that if michael pittman plays my opinion yeah i don't think the chiefs defense i
mean they're fine i don't think they're particularly good they don't have a great pass rush
uh they don't have their starting linebacker willie gay for the next four games i just don't have a great pass rush. They don't have their starting linebacker,
Willie Gay, for the next four games.
I just don't...
I don't think the Chiefs are that special,
but I think the Chiefs would make an excellent...
Heath, why are you so low on the Chiefs this week?
We haven't played that game yet this year.
You know what?
I would split the difference and just go with the Saints
because the Saints are the one DST in this discussion
that are ranked
in the top eight for all three of our analysts.
Top four for Jamie and Dave,
eighth for Heath.
So Heath would say go with the Broncos.
Jamie and Dave would say go with the Chiefs.
I'll say the one DST that everybody likes
is the Saints, and they have the Panthers.
I agree with this sentiment.
Okay, good.
From Dan, grade the trade.
Give up Justin Herbert, Jeff Wilson,
Tyler Lockett, and Rashad Penny.
Herbert, Wilson, Lockett, and Penny.
Get Matthew Stafford and Justin Jefferson.
Deal.
From Dan, do I trade Debo Samuel
for Najee Harris and Devin DuVernay?
I was supposed to grade that.
B minus.
Trade Debo for Najee and and Devin DuVernay. I was supposed to grade that B minus. Trey Debo for Najee and...
No, no, no, no, no, no.
All right, let's do more rankings movers
to end the show, Heath.
I think we've got to talk about Carson Wentz.
56 minutes in, sorry about that.
What do you think about him rest of season?
And you would take him over Russell Wilson,
rest of season.
Yeah, I think Carson Wentz is a borderline top 12 quarterback rest of season. Maybe even a
slightly better. The Russell Wilson versus Carson Wentz thing, it started out as a this week thing,
then it turned into a as long as Jerry Judy is out thing. And I definitely believe both of those
things. Rest of season, I think it's really close,
and it's not something where I would probably want to make a trade either way.
But I think they're kind of the same thing
because Russell Wilson's not running anymore at all
and doesn't look like a quarterback who should be.
And their offensive philosophy is a mixed bag of poo. And Wentz has been a high-end
number two quarterback at worst every year that he's played at least 14 games. And largely he's
done that recently on teams that aren't throwing all that much. Scott Turner's offense have been
about as pass heavy, not as anybody in the league, but certainly in the top third of the league.
He's throwing more than 40 times a game.
I think he's going to average more than 37 attempts for the rest of the year.
And he has a very, very talented core of pass catchers. If Curtis Samuel stays healthy and you've got McLaurin, Dotson, and Curtis Samuel,
then you've got Logan Thomas at tight end, both Gibson and McKissick as pass catching backs,
coupled with a just atrocious defense right now that might
get better and only be bad, but it's not going to be good at any point this year.
I think Wentz has everything lined up for him, even if he's not a good real life quarterback,
that he's going to be a good fantasy quarterback.
I don't disagree with that. I just don't, I just wouldn't take him
over Russell Wilson.
And he's going to run
for probably
10 times as many yards
as Russell Wilson.
Hmm.
Six times.
Okay.
I don't know.
250 yards for Wentz,
40 for Wilson?
No,
I think Wilson will be,
what did Matthew Stafford
run for last year?
Look that up
if you wouldn't mind.
23?
No, I feel like it was, I feel like it was like 80 to 100 yards.
Maybe I'm crazy.
Maybe I'm thinking of someone else.
All right, look, here's the thing about Wilson.
I still believe, I'm going to give him another week at least.
They are moving the ball.
They are top eight in total yards.
They are terrible right now in the red zone.
I gave these stats on Monday's show, and I don't quite
remember them, but he is one of like six
or seven quarterbacks that have
10 to 12 pass attempts inside
the 10-yard line, and
he's the only one that has fewer than three touchdown passes,
and he has zero. So
things will turn for Russell Wilson. He's had some
almost touchdowns. He's had some bad luck. There's been
some terrible play calling,
which I believe will benefit Javante Williams as well.
Just give him the ball.
They're a joke right now.
They cannot score.
They're breaking the huddle late.
They look like they have a rookie head coach and a new quarterback.
As bad as they have been,
I really feel like it's only going to get better for the Broncos offensively
because there's just too much talent there. I really feel like it's only going to get better for the Broncos offensively because there's just too much talent there.
Matthew Stafford ranked
41st amongst all
quarterbacks in rushing yards last year with
43.
Who was it that
had like, I don't know.
Baker Mayfield
at 134.
No.
How many did Wilson have?
183. Right. So I mean, is he that much slower than he was last year i don't think so i know i just it's a different coach in a different system yeah but
he'll scramble a little bit okay he'll get to 100 he tried to scramble in week two and he fell down
all right there's nobody around him other players moving up in your rankings giovante williams well jalen hurts giovante williams and
jeff wilson yeah jalen hurts it's no longer a like
aspirational he could be top he could be the number one quarterback it's more of
a man it might just be him or josh allen is
the number one quarterback i know that hurts is not currently top
number two but we talked about it just one
passing touchdown and he's qb6 he has a monster game coming a two a game coming and uh that'll
vault him back up where he belongs i i was encouraged by the fact that in week one giovante
was so involved in the passing game and in week two he played a higher percentage of the snaps um i i think giovante is going to be
a borderline top 12 running back maybe even a top eight or ten running back if the usage is the same
as it was in week two and we simply cannot just assume that it will be but if it is then he'll be
an arguably a top five player i think well what if the usage is the same as it was in week one
i'm gonna say that won't happen because that was the Seahawks
and that's just what people do, what teams do to the Seahawks.
But yes, you're right.
If he gets 11 passes,
he looks like he really could just be an incredible breakout.
But next week, would you be shocked if Melvin Gordon had 10 carries
and Javante had 13?
I wouldn't shock you.
No, not at all.
Jeff Wilson's obviously moved up.
Number two running back, basically, you'll be ranking him?
Number two running back for as long as he can stay healthy.
But he's never played more than 12 games,
so go add Jordan Mason.
The players that you gave me on the down list,
I think you already talked about Najee.
No, you talked about Etn mooney and comet so the
others are naji harris which has been a theme on today's show i think he's a low end number two
running back robert woods he's droppable and check his roster percentage it was 74 after week one
or going into week two and it is now 71 so he hasn't been dropped in enough leagues
and george pickens 73 percent rostered uh well that was before waivers ran see where pickens is
now but uh let me give you one thing on pickens 69 percent roster now he has he has had two catches
on six targets in his first two games you know who else had six targets in his first two games. You know who else had six targets in his first two games?
Justin Jefferson.
I am not dropping.
I have not dropped George Pickens.
I'm not advising anyone to drop George Pickens.
I've lowered him in the rankings because I think week one,
he was like wide receiver 40 for me,
and he's not being ranked on a weekly basis now.
But the Justin Jefferson set I thought was actually a DJ Morstead.
I don't remember.
Like, you know, look,
that's pretty rare for a guy to have six targets
in his first two games.
I think he had like 150 yards in week three or something,
Justin Jefferson as a rookie.
And that's why I was saying,
I don't think Pickens really has that kind of upside.
He's not in as good of offense.
He doesn't have as
good a quarterback and he has Deontay Johnson on the team. Right. Jefferson week three, actually
for him in his rookie year was seven catches, 175 yards and a touchdown. And of course I dropped
him for Peyton Barber before. So yeah. All right. That's it for today's show. Thank you for watching
and listening everybody. Tomorrow we've got our starter set for the AFC home game.
For Heath Cummings, I'm Adam Azer. Have a good one.
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