Fantasy Football Today - Updated Top 5 Overall; Rankings Risers/Fallers; Steelers-Browns (09/21 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 21, 2022

If we were drafting today, who would be in the Top 5 (3:05)? Have we seen enough concerning signs from Christian McCaffrey and Austin Ekeler to move them out? How seriously do we take Saquon Barkley,... D'Andre Swift, Stefon Diggs and the top tight ends? ... Heath gives you three players who have moved up (14:00) and three who have moved down (22:00) since the start of the season. He is higher on Garrett Wilson, Drake London and Christian Kirk. He is lower on Travis Etienne and a couple of Bears. We also have some news and notes (30:00) and a Steelers-Browns preview (33:35)! Are we starting Najee Harris this week? Is Kareem Hunt a better option? Do we go back to Amari Cooper? ... Buy low and sell high candidates from our listeners (42:00)! A lot of Najee talk, plus CEH, CeeDee Lamb, Kyle Pitts and more. We also talk about quarterback buy low opportunities (51:25) and Heath gives us more risers and fallers in his rankings (56:30) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Welcome to your Wednesday edition of Fantasy Football Today. A two-man show. Adam Azer and Heath Cummings here. We have a Carson Wentz fight scheduled for today. Wow. Some things never change, Heath. Yeah, well, I've always been a huge Carson Wentz supporter. I believe in the thread of bad Twitter takes is a Carson Wentz is an elite quarterback take from one Adam Azer. And I will try to live up to that.
Starting point is 00:02:13 I think that used to be true. Of course, some people would disagree with that. And, yeah, I think we're going to debate Russell Wilson versus Carson Wentz. I could make myself feel better and just do a Twitter poll because I do. Actually, I have no idea who would win that. I ran a Twitter poll for just this week. Who would you rather start? Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, or Carson Wentz?
Starting point is 00:02:35 And Carson Wentz beat all three of them. I would definitely prefer him to those two old washed-up quarterbacks in Green Bay and Tampa Bay. Which of the two are the old washed-up quarterbacks? Well, they're a lot older than Russell Wilson. Yeah, I mean, it's just a matter of the weapons and the defenses and whatnot. I think I'd start Wilson over... Yeah, I'd start Wilson over Wentz this week.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I'm worried about Wentz this week, Heath. We're going to get into that game on Friday as part of our NFC home games. But, man, the Eagles' defense is really good, and they do not give up big plays. They didn't last year. They so far are not doing it this year. They have two top cornerbacks. This could be a tough week for him.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Yeah, if you were trying to put together a roster of short area passing targets, you could do worse than what the Washington football team commanders have surrounded Carson Wentz with, like JD McKissick, Logan Thomas, Antonio Gibson. But he needs those big plays. I think he needs those big plays. He needs to chuck it downfield, the Dotson and McLaurin a little bit. He's got to hope he can be as good as Jared Goff was in week one.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Yeah, but Cousins was terrible. But you're right. I mean, the Eagles are a little Jekyll and Hyde. All right. Anyway, more starter. But it's more of a rest of season type of episode. Coming up on today's show, we're redrafting the top five. We are talking about players who have moved the most in the rankings for Heath based on the preseason. We're looking at the Steelers-Browns game and
Starting point is 00:04:09 giving you a little bit of a preview there. Trade Talk will be more of the second half of the show. I have plenty of your buy low and sell highs from Twitters, and we'll react to that from the Twitter, and emails at fantasyfootballatcbsi.com and your tweets. All right, so if you're redrafting today, give me your top five. And by the way, the current top five in PPR scoring non-quarterbacks is Stephon Diggs, Cooper Cup, Tyreek Hill, Amandra St. Brown, Jalen Waddell. That's your top five with Justin Jefferson, six. And the number one running back in PPR right now is Nick Chubb. He's number seven.
Starting point is 00:04:44 But it's Diggs, Cup, Tyreek Hill, Amandra St. Brown, and Jalen Waddell. All right, Heath, give me your top five if you're redrafting today. And does it matter if this was a three-receiver or two-receiver league? I'm not going that deep into it. I almost just put all wide receivers in the top five. And it's fun that the top five scorers are all wide receivers. My top five are the same as they were at the beginning of the year just a different order but it's the same five guys
Starting point is 00:05:11 cooper cup one christian mcafree two jonathan taylor three justin jefferson four austin eckler five um i haven't seen enough from any enough bad for any of these guys to move them out of my top five. Not even McCaffrey? And you have him, too, ahead of Taylor. McCaffrey's seen an almost 20% target share, and he's averaging five yards per carry, and he's completely dominating running back touches for the Panthers. I did a little bit of a tweet thread about this this morning because it comes back to the same thing as DJ Moore.
Starting point is 00:05:43 It's all about how likely is it that the Panthers are actually going to run 50 plays a game for the rest of the season? I think they're at 51.5, and you look at what they did last year, and they were 29th in points last year. They were dead last in yards per play, and they ran 65 offensive plays per game this year they are ranked 16th in points now there's just been some terrible points production in the league they've still been really bad in terms of points I don't want to say their average
Starting point is 00:06:16 they're 20th in yards per play and they're running 52 offensive plays per game this is not a Ben McAdoo thing the Giants were top 12 the two years he was offensive coordinator for the Giants in total offensive plays. I just don't think we should really take very much at all away from the fact that their volume's been so low. Someone suggested the new offensive coordinator, and I don't think it's McAdoo's fault, but I do think it's possible that they got off to a slow start because they have a new offensive coordinator. Everyone's learning a new offense, and Baker Mayfield's only been there for, what, six weeks? Maybe the connection's just not there, and so it's taking longer to get things done. They're being worse on third down. But I just don't believe that the Panthers—I have them projected for 61 plays this week.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I'll probably—even if they run 55 plays, I'm probably going to project them for 61 next week. I just don't think we're to the point yet where we should accept their Seattle from last year. Seattle's Seattle from last year. No, I think that's fine. I just certainly would not put him ahead of Jonathan Taylor. I mean, I'm surprised that you still have him once. I mean, I think they're like five points apart on the season.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yeah, Taylor had a horrible game in week two. They obviously could use Michael Pittman to open things up offensively for them, but that's, I'm hoping, going to be the worst game of the year for the Colts. One thing I really like about Jonathan Taylor, he's third in the NFL among running backs in routes run. And now they have run a lot of plays.
Starting point is 00:07:41 They've run the eighth most plays, but he is running a lot of routes. Jonathan Taylor, he had seven targets in week one. He had only one in week two. So I don't think you have anything to worry about with Jonathan Taylor. How did they get shut out? And he touched the ball 10 times. It's pathetic.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yeah. I don't even understand that. I guess they just got behind big and they just ran, ran, ran. But I'm sorry. Through, through,
Starting point is 00:08:03 through. Like I said, basically I moved cooper cup to number one overall because i and i said this if he's going to be the player he was in 2021 he should be drafted first overall yeah i expected some regression there's been absolutely no sign of regression from cooper cup alan robinson is not taking any targets away from him. So he should be number one. I think the only other change was I moved Jefferson ahead of Austin Eckler. Other than that, it's just the same five.
Starting point is 00:08:32 I want to talk a little bit more about Eckler, but there were, I would say, five players when I was thinking about this. Because Dave, by the way, also, he's not on the show today, but he did give a top five, and his is Cup, Taylor, Eckler, Jefferson, McCaffrey. It is the same five as Heath, but in a different order. Five players or so that came to mind, maybe they should be in the top five if we were redrafting today. And just give me your quick thoughts.
Starting point is 00:08:53 Saquon Barkley, he is top four in routes run among running backs and getting a ton of touches. Saquon Barkley. Yeah, Barkley, if his week two had looked anything at all like his week one i i would probably agree with that guy i was almost there um but the the week two was was really there were some things in giants that made me think week one was kind of the aberration you know what happened i didn't i read about this i didn't notice it or anything but uh he faced a lot a lot more eight-man fronts in week two
Starting point is 00:09:25 than he did in week one, and the blueprint's out now, and they really slowed down Saquon Barkley, but he's so involved in the passing game. I would say at least first-round pick now if you're redrafting, or much closer to it. The only reason,
Starting point is 00:09:40 definitely first-round pick if we took just as many running backs in the first round as we were but there might be enough wide receivers in the first round that you don't yeah speaking of which stefan diggs i think has a case as a top five player if you told me that gabe davis was not going to play anymore this year then stefan diggs would 100 be a top five player for me yeah well even in week one he was terrific but, but yeah, Alan just looks so good right now. Um, let's see, uh, who else came to mind? Deandre Swift. That that's one. He's a guy that I am struggling with so much. Like I, I think I made it clear last year how I feel about Deandre
Starting point is 00:10:18 Swift as a player. Um, and he, he currently is top five in the league in both yards before contact per rush and yards after contact per rush, which is exceptionally rare. But also, he's played two games and he has 20 carries and five catches. That's not the profile of a top five pick at all. Yeah, well, let's make this a little trade talky here, right? Because DeAndre Swift, he was limited in week two, right? So the touches were low in week two. Week one, they were much higher. But he does not appear to be the goal linebacker.
Starting point is 00:10:52 In fact, Jamal Williams appears to have that role right now. That could change. There have been some times where Swift has had to come off the field because he's had a really long catch or a really long run that set up first and goal. But it does look like Williams is that guy, and that's not good. But Swift is playing so well. You mentioned the yards before contact.
Starting point is 00:11:09 I mean, the offensive line is just plowing through people. Swift has a 50-yard run and a 20-plus yard catch in each of his first two games. So if the workload gets there, then he's got – I mean, I think he has RB1 potential. I don't know how you feel about that. Like, is the workload going to get to the point where should we be valuing Swift? How should we be valuing Swift right now? Because on one hand, he doesn't have the workload
Starting point is 00:11:34 that you want from a first-round player. On the other hand, he's playing so well, but he also has injury history, and he's already hurt. So is he a round one kind of guy, or is he still a round two kind of guy? He's a round one kind of guy. I would rather have Swift than Barkley. But it's still the end of round one.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I'm trying to think of running backs who we drafted. I had Swift ahead of Najee already, but definitely ahead of Najee Harris. Dalvin Cook? He's one of the big fallers. I think I'd still probably take Dalvin Cook, but it's really close. This week, they face each other, and that might like, we might see Dalvin Cook stake his claim, or
Starting point is 00:12:12 Swift might be clearly ahead of him after this week. And there are two other running backs that I think you could make the case. If you were just a running back guy, you could just make the case, based on usage, they deserve to be top five running backs. Joe Mixon and Leonard Fournette. You just wish Mixon were more efficient right now the offensive line stinks um but he's running a ton of routes he has a ton of catches i think he i think fournette and mixon are top two and carry so far
Starting point is 00:12:35 um you know i don't know it's too complicated these guys are you know i have mix in top five and non-ppr so yeah i don't you could make the argument for either one of them. Okay. And what about Kelsey and Andrews as we see the way the tight end position is unfolding this year? I feel really good about having drafted both of them at the end of round one. I can't quite get all the way up to top five. But, yeah, they're round one picks.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Okay. Last thing in this subject here is Austin Eckler. He's played just 49% and 63% of the snaps so far. Going into the fourth quarter in week two, it was only 60% of the snaps. Then he played 69% of the snaps in the fourth quarter in a comeback effort. We did see a similar start to last season for Eckler
Starting point is 00:13:21 with the snap count kind of low in the first two weeks and got better as the season went on. He also came off the field at the goal line in week two. It wasn't the case in week one, but Sonny Michel worked there in week two. And it just hasn't been a great start for Eckler, but you haven't seen enough to move him out of your top five. You have him fifth overall. Dave has him third overall. So does that mean we can definitely apply the buy low tag on Eckler? Yeah, if someone is like, I think it would have been easier to buy low at halftime of that Chiefs game or the end of the third quarter. It's more difficult after he puts up a nine catch performance. And you remember what kind of PPR upside he has.
Starting point is 00:13:56 Like basically anyone who's touching the ball 20 times a game and hasn't scored a touchdown yet is a is a buy low candidate. All right. So that is our current top five plus some talk about some more elite players we have an offensive line interview that dave did he did he talked to former jacksonville offensive lineman uche waneri might do that a few times throughout the season and that's going to be a youtube youtube exclusive piece of content that's going to publish later today on Wednesday about 1 p.m. Eastern or so. Just go to youtube.com
Starting point is 00:14:28 fantasy football today. I had an interview with Uche Winery before the season started talking about offensive lines. He's extremely insightful. He played I don't know six seven seasons or so with the Jaguars. I'll tell you right now and one two three four five six seven seasons
Starting point is 00:14:43 and had a really nice career and offered a lot of really great insight when I spoke to him. So looking forward to hearing what he had to tell Dave about some offensive lines to start the year. Leave us a five-star review in Apple Podcast with a question. We'll read it on the air. That's not a guarantee, but it's a pretty good chance on our mailbag show, which records on Friday, publishes on Saturday in the podcast on Friday on YouTube. Apple podcast review, five-star review, must be five stars. Leave a comment about why you like the show, why other people should listen to the show, and then ask your question, and there's a good chance it'll be read. So I asked you, Heath, for the players that
Starting point is 00:15:19 have moved up or down the most in your rankings. So we're going to finish it later in the show, but this is part one. Give me three. Remember we used to do a baseball segment, three up, three down, give me three up and three down. So these are players who have, who are, you are legitimately higher on than you were before the season started and legitimately lower on three up. And this would like, this does make me miss one thing about the baseball rankings process. We constantly had a rest of season rankings during baseball season because we didn't have to do weekly rankings. And I do wish that I was able to maintain a rest of season rankings for football as well, but alas, I am only one man.
Starting point is 00:15:56 The three that have moved up the most would likely be all wide receivers, Garrett Wilson, Drake London, and Christian Kirk. All right. I'm going to be negative about all three of them just for fun. Just for fun. Good. I appreciate it. And I think you probably believe it on the rookies and don't believe it on Kirk. Is that correct? No, I believe it more on Kirk. No. First of all, I didn't just call you a moron, even though I said moron. I believe it for all three of them. It's Carson Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:16:29 You should call me an idiot moron. I believe it for all three of them. I have questions about just how good they can be. I didn't go back and get a chance to look. I'm wondering if Elijah Moore saw a lot of Denzel Ward in week two and that freed things up for Wilson. But my bigger concern for Garrett Wilson is just Zach Wilson. I said this on the air last night on our live stream with Dan Schneier. There were three quarterbacks that I thought looked dreadful in the preseason.
Starting point is 00:16:56 Zach Wilson was one of them. It was only one drive, but I just thought he looked terrible. Davis Mills was another. He's off to a bad start. And Trey Lance was another. Too early to judge, but he was bad in week one. So I'm worried about Zach Wilson. And just worried about Garrett.
Starting point is 00:17:09 Eli Moore's not going away. And they've thrown 15 more passes than anyone else. So it's an ideal start for Garrett Wilson, basically. Yeah, and I've got some confirmation bias going on here because I thought before the draft that Garrett Wilson was the best wide receiver in this class. He was an elite prospect all the way going back to high school when he was a five-star recruit, earned a 26% target share at Ohio State playing alongside Chris Alave, blazing fast speed. And just like you've seen the videos this week on Twitter,
Starting point is 00:17:40 an incredible route runner. Some of these things he does as a route runner, one of his teammates, DJ Reed said he has that Justin Jefferson vibe. No one wants to cover him. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. I thought you were done.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Um, and the, there was also something that came out, the Jets coaches and general manager met after week one. And one of the things that came out of that meeting was they all agreed Garrett Wilson had to be more involved. Um, like there's just, he's a top 10 pick with absolute elite pedigree who just earned 14 targets in his second NFL game. It's the same thing that we said going into the year or after the drafts,
Starting point is 00:18:18 like we really liked all of these wide receivers, but just didn't really like their situations. I, receivers but just didn't really like their situations i i really don't believe that joe flacco is going to play one or two more games and then zach wilson's going to come in and be given the opportunity to stink all year long i kind of do you can't then they have to determine right away that they're moving on from zach wilson Not necessarily right away, but he was awful last year. He was terrible in the preseason. If he comes out, and let's say hypothetically they're 2-2,
Starting point is 00:18:53 and then Zach Wilson takes over, and all of a sudden they're 2-5, and he's playing just as bad as he has the first, I think that they're going to try to win games. That's fair. The schedule looks kind of rough for Wilson. He's got the Bengals. Steelers might not be tough. Bengals, Dolphins, Packers, Denver, New England,
Starting point is 00:19:10 and Buffalo before the bye. So some solid defenses there. All right. It's really just a matter of I just wonder what his upside is. Do you think Garrett Wilson is a number two or a number three or a number four receiver going forward? Borderline number two wide receiver he's pretty much and i would view him like most people view brandon cooks and tyler lockett and they say man
Starting point is 00:19:33 i don't know when to start him and i say i'm just going to start him every week because i don't want those 30 points on my bench ever again okay drake london no no concerns about the talent here. He's obviously, you know, he and Kyle Pitts are the only players really consistently involved. They're both, they've run 57 and 56 routes respectively for the Falcons, and no one else has run more than 37. So it's a two-man show. My only concern is this team really wants to run the ball, it seems.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I mean, they were down so big against the Falcons and Mariota through against the Rams. They trailed 28 to 10 going into the fourth quarter. Mariota threw 26 passes in the full game. And then Kyle Pitts, you know, Kyle Pitts eventually is going to get more involved. So same question for London. He's a number two, a number three, a number four receiver.
Starting point is 00:20:23 And it's not going to be a number four receiver. And do you like him better or worse than Garrett Wilson? These guys are just right there, neck and neck for me. I think there may be 21 and 22 in my rankings this week, and they'd be very close to that rest of season. I think both of them have the upside that if absolutely everything goes right, they could be top 12 wide receivers at the end of the year. Drake London has less competition for targets than Kyle Pitts. There will be fewer targets, but that's okay. The math works out pretty much the same. I think both these guys are at a 21, 22% target share for the rest of the year, if not higher for London. And London right now is a 33% target share. Pitts is 18%. Would you rather have... Okay, so who have you moved them ahead of?
Starting point is 00:21:06 Have you moved them ahead of... Okay, DK Metcalf, you take these guys over. Brandon Cooks? No. Not DJ Moore? No. Alan Robinson? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Wilson and London. Okay. Basically, it's those guys that... And I think a great guy to ask about is Drake London versus Garrett Wilson versus Gabe Davis. And you'll just find out that everybody who drafted Gabe Davis prefers him and everybody who didn't prefers the rookies. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:35 I mean, I'm just going to go with the offense there. I'm just, you know, it's just, I just don't know how much I can trust the Jets and Falcons passing games. There just might be too many down weeks. Yeah. And I think like the, the thing with Davis is like, we've only seen one game, so we don't know how much I can trust the Jets and Falcons passing games. There just might be too many down weeks. Yeah. And I think like the, the thing with Davis is like, we've only seen one game,
Starting point is 00:21:49 so we don't know that much, but if it's five to six targets a week, um, there's going to be some down games there, even in a great offense. And then Christian Kirk, here's my only problem with Christian Kirk. I don't love his next two games,
Starting point is 00:22:02 the chargers and the Eagles. If he can come out of these two games with one really good performance, doesn't even have to be two, then we might owe him a huge apology for crapping on the contract. And Christian Kirk might be one of the true steals in fantasy. And Heath, I would take him over Garrett Wilson and Drake London rest of season. I'm really excited about Christian Kirk. I'm all in. Yeah, I don't worry about the schedule or the matchups too much. So that part doesn't bother me. I have him, like, it's almost back to back to back.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I have him currently at 19, Wilson at 21, London at 22. I would slightly prefer Kirk in full PPR. In non-PPR, I might go with the other guys, but he's going to make some big plays too. So yeah, these are all three low end number two wide receivers. I've got all three ahead of Terry McLaurin, who is, I think, one of the guys who moved down for me. I like Christian Kirk because even in a tough matchup, he'll move to the slot. He'll play enough in the slot where he won't have to face the toughest cornerbacks.
Starting point is 00:23:08 And he's not a slot receiver like Jarvis Landry who's not going to go downfield at all. I kind of like that profile on a player. Move him into the slot, but don't limit him to just short area targets. I like to check his slot percentage. I'm going to do that. While you tell me the three players
Starting point is 00:23:24 that you have moved down in your rankings, three of the players that you've moved down. Yeah, Travis Etienne, Darnell Mooney, and Cole Komet. And the Bears are connected. It's not even an anti-Justin Fields take. He's only thrown 28 passes this year. We have no idea how much he's improved as a passer or hasn't. He's thrown one fewer pass than Dak Prescott.
Starting point is 00:23:50 And I just think that, especially the way that Montgomery ran against the Packers, it's possibly that they're going to design a run offense that's good enough that keeps them in games and their schedule's easy enough, they win a few, that there's just not a major change in philosophy. And if they are throwing the ball even 20 or 25 times a game, I just don't think there's enough volume for Mooney or Kmet to be players that you even consider using in fantasy. I saw Mooney dropped in a couple of leagues, and I'm not quite ready to do that. I didn't drop him with any of my waiver claims this week, but I can certainly see that on the horizon, especially if something doesn't happen positive against the Texans. Yeah, and I dropped Cole Komet for Hayden Hurst
Starting point is 00:24:33 in a league where I'm 0-2, podcast league. I changed my team name to Kometment Issues. And yeah, I need some points. I would think he'd be better than Hayden Hurst the rest of the season, but Hayden Hurst, you know, you might get like seven, eight points as a floor or something in a full PPR league. And I cannot say that Cole Komet's floor is even two points right now. They're just kind of a mess.
Starting point is 00:25:01 The passing game does not have a floor currently. Right. The floor is in the basement. ETN, he did get nine carries in week two, which was nice. They ran the ball a lot because they crushed the Colts. Yeah, and I'm lower on James Robinson, not that I was. I'm higher on him than I was, but I'm lower on him than I think where consensus is.
Starting point is 00:25:22 I just, this looks like pretty close to a full-blown committee, and I don't think I want to have a committee back on the Jacksonville offense. I'm a little more bullish, I guess, on the Jacksonville offense. I think they're solid. You don't? They've played, and again, you don't think the commanders are as bad defensively as I do. I actually think they are right now.
Starting point is 00:25:46 I think they're going to get better, though. They're terrible right now. Yeah. And then they face the Colts without half their starting defense. They've been provided no resistance or test whatsoever. I didn't realize the Colts were so banged up. I know they didn't have Shaq Leonard, but they had Kenny Moore. They didn't have DeForest Buckner.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Moore, Kenny Moore. They didn't have DeForest Buckner. Kenny Moore was playing but hurt. Well, I confess I somehow did not know that they did not have DeForest Buckner. How did I not know that? That's unlike me. No, they did have DeForest Buckner. They did? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:17 How many? Did he? Yeah, he played. I don't know what his snap count was. Okay. Well, that was my bet then. Yeah, because he's a very good run stuffer. Well, think well and they didn't i mean they think they averaged i don't know what robinson averaged oh they stunk robinson had to play as many snaps but he played over half the snaps so 70 robinson had one big run and they struggled to run the ball other than that i just
Starting point is 00:26:40 i like i think they're aggressive um and uh i don't know i'm just I'm watching a lot of their film because I've been watching a lot of Travis Etienne to see what's going on there. They left some points off the board in week one. I don't know. I'm hopeful. I'm impressed with Doug Peterson so far. Maybe I'm biased because I have a lot of Christian Kirk. I guess I have a lot of James Robinson.
Starting point is 00:27:02 I am very excited. Like I said, I'm excited for Kirk, and I think Evan Ingram can be a thing as a low-end starting tight end. I don't think they're going to be good running the ball and I think they're going to split it up too much. If you were 0-2 right now, really struggling with your team,
Starting point is 00:27:16 would you look to be getting... You don't have to be 0-2, whatever. Let's say you just wanted someone who... No, actually 0-2 is the worst example. Maybe if you were 2-0, would you look at Travisvis etn or breese hall and hope that they wouldn't even need an injury that they would just get more work in the second half and be big time contributors i have no problem if you're two and oh with buying talented guys that you can put on your bench and hope that they eventually turn into what we thought they could be. I think that's a good plan.
Starting point is 00:27:48 I don't want to do that if I have to start Hall or Etienne. Would you trade Daryl Henderson for them? Yeah. Would you trade Miles Sanders for Hall or Etienne? I think they're kind of the same thing. I think Miles Sanders would have made my list of rankings movers. You got to really like
Starting point is 00:28:11 what you're seeing so far from him. He looks kind of like a must start right now as a number two guy. Certainly not as a number one. Where do you have him this week? I don't.
Starting point is 00:28:22 He's like 22nd, I think, for me this week. He's been pretty close to what we expected, hasn't he? I think he's had a much bigger share. Gainwell and Scott are basically irrelevant. And I think that's awesome. And I think for Sanders. And he catches some passes, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:42 gets you two, three a game. It's not, you know what, their offense is just so much better than even I could have imagined. They just, they look so good. Jalen Hurts, I thought they were going to be really good, but I didn't think Jalen Hurts would be this good. It's been such a weird start still,
Starting point is 00:28:58 because like as awesome as Jalen Hurts has been, he's thrown one touchdown pass. Right, yeah, but he's still got to be a top four QB or something. Actually, probably not because two is probably ahead of him. I know Jackson, Allen. I think he's better in four-point-per-pass touchdown leagues, obviously, because he only has one touchdown pass. Sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:18 In our standard scoring, well, it looks like he is currently QB6, right behind Carson Wentz. More on him in a little bit. Heath, I went to an event, Bat Mitzvah, over the weekend. I needed to look good. This is not a lie. I think you know what I wore. I wore my Indochino suit. Real quick, before we get into Indochino, here's your poll question of the day.
Starting point is 00:29:44 What is fancier, in your opinion? A jacket with no tie or a tie with no jacket? Tie with no jacket. Boy, I get a lot of disagreement on that. Let's get a YouTube poll going, Schaefer. What's fancier, tie with no jacket or jacket with no tie? But Indochino, it's not about being fancy. It's about looking good. It's about feeling good. I love putting on my Indochino suit. I feel good. I have a little bit of a swagger in it. You can't find the perfect suit, but you can find a suit that's perfect for you. And you can do that at Indochino.com, I-N-D-O-C-H-I-N-O.com. Use the promo code FFT for $50 off any purchase of $3.99
Starting point is 00:30:22 or more. So why do I love my Indochino suit? Well, I have a lot of suits, and I've gone to tailors and all those things, and none of them fit me nearly as well as my Indochino suit. They will get it absolutely perfect for you. You customize every detail, obviously the color, the pleats, the monogram on the inside, the buttons, everything. The lining on the inside of the jacket, which is always fun. It's fun to build a suit like that. And you're just going to feel better wearing it.
Starting point is 00:30:50 You're going to be more excited to wear it. Like I said, a little swag gets you excited to put on some... Because you're looking good. You get excited to look good. So I encourage you to go to Indochino.com. You're going to save some money because people pay so much more. They pay double what you get at Indochino for a custom suit. And if you go to Indochino.com and use the promo code FFT, you get 50 bucks off any purchase of $399 or more. So design your perfect suit with Indochino. Use that promo code, I-N-D-O-C-H-I-N-O.com. Promo code is FFT. 50 bucks off any purchase of $399 or more. Quick look at the news and notes. Chris Godwin is questionable.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And Mike Evans has appealed his suspension. So we don't know how depleted that receiving core will be. And we'll update you on that. We'll know much more later today. Akeem Hicks, though, for the Bucs starting defensive tackle. He is out a month with a foot injury. And they have allowed 4.56 yards per carry to running backs. They've been below four each of the previous three years.
Starting point is 00:31:51 And they've allowed five yards per carry to a running back with 10 carries in each of the last two games, each of the first two games, Zeke and Ingram. So, run defense not what it had been thus far. Dalton Schultz, it looks like he's going to miss this week's game against the Giants, but he may only miss that one game. Could be back in week four, Dalton Schultz. Houston center Justin Britt is on the reserve
Starting point is 00:32:15 non-football illness list. He missed week two, and he will miss some time it seems. Hopefully come back soon. Justin Britt, Texans center. San Francisco signed Marlon Mack Heath. He was on the practice squad. Now he's on the active roster. Does Marlon Mack matter for the 49ers? Well, I'm going to
Starting point is 00:32:32 tentatively place him in the week seven waiver wire. All right. Seattle and Pittsburgh both talked about being more aggressive in the passing game. That resonate with you at all? I wonder, I'd like clarification.
Starting point is 00:32:52 What do they mean by that? Well, Gino wants to throw the ball downfield more. And Trubisky does too. I don't think that's probably going to work out very well for anyone. We'll find out soon. We're going to look at that Thursday night game. And Giants defensive tackle Leonard Williams, unlikely to play this week.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Very good player, both against the run and against the pass. He plays, he's an Ironman and his streak, whatever it may be, is about to get broken. It seems Monday night game Giants at Dallas Giants hosting Dallas. All right,
Starting point is 00:33:21 quick shout out of the day. We got an email from Bryce. Bryce says, Hey, Adam, would you please say pga tour on the podcast i'm curious if it'll sound like an abbreviated form of the way you say tournament or if you'll say it like normal people don't do character like don't don't do that just say it the way you say tournament tournament tournament that's not that's different. Anyway, there you go. So can you say there is a PGA Tour tournament this week?
Starting point is 00:33:50 There's a PGA Tour tournament. What do I say? What is wrong with that? I don't even know what I'm doing wrong. Nothing. Nothing at all. It's delightful. It sounds normal to me.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Anyway, the reason Bryce is emailing is, one of my best friends, Bryce says, one of my best friends was recently diagnosed with ALS. He's a huge fantasy football player. He loves the show. Listens to you guys every day, seriously. We cite things you say all the time and are always trying to think about
Starting point is 00:34:20 outlandish fantasy cops questions. All of which brings me to the point, finally, and that is, would you be willing to give a shout-out to Reed? He's a great guy. If you ignore the fact that meeting Dave Richard would probably rate higher than his wedding day. Gotta go buy. Shout-out to Reed.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Shout-out to Reed. And I can say, having met Dave Richard, I understand that. Reed, we wish you nothing but the best, man. Hang in there. Keep listening. And we love you, buddy. All right, Pittsburgh at Cleveland. I cannot say we love you to this game.
Starting point is 00:34:52 Thursday night. Look, if you don't have to cover fantasy football, you have our permission to seek other plans on Thursday night. Pittsburgh at Cleveland. Although, you know, every time I say that about a game, it always ends up being really exciting at the end. Your stat of the game is just about how bad the Steelers' offense is. Mitchell Trubisky has attempted four red zone passes.
Starting point is 00:35:12 So has Tom Brady, unfortunately. In two games, they have gained 267 and 243 yards. Only the Bears and Seahawks have gained fewer yards than the Steelers. Only the Texans have averaged fewer yards per play. I can also give you a stat of the game, Heath, about how good the Browns were last year and so far have been this year against past catching running backs,
Starting point is 00:35:33 which may be where Najee Harris has to, you know, make his day. They did give up a 10-yard touchdown catch to Brees Hall. I'm aware of that. But they've held Christian McCaffrey and Michael Carter in check. McCaffrey had 33 yards and a touchdown rushing. No, I'm sorry, he had 24 yards receiving. So Michael Carter and McCaffrey had 23 and 24 yards receiving. And last year, they held C.E.H. Montgomery, Dalvin Cook, Chase Edmonds, Najee Harris twice, DeAndre Swift, and Aaron Jones to fewer than 30 yards.
Starting point is 00:36:04 So I wonder how that factors into your evaluation of Najee Harris, and are you even starting Najee Harris this week? I'm probably starting Najee Harris. I mean, if I picked up Jeff Wilson, then I would start him over Najee. I would start Clyde over Najee. I'd start Miles Sanders over Najee. But he's a top 24 running back, just barely. And I think most people who have him should start him. If you could flex, would you start Garrett Wilson and Drake London and Christian Kirk over him, over Najee Harris?
Starting point is 00:36:39 Definitely not non-PPR, but in full PPR, very, very close. They're basically tied in the projections. I'd probably stick with Najee. Yeah, I mean, look, he hasn't been that bad. Week one, he scored. Week two, he had five catches and 89 total yards. But he is, you know, you talked about DeAndre Swift before and after contact
Starting point is 00:37:01 being a lead in both. Najee Harris is 39th among running backs in yards before contact per rush, 36 in yards after contact per rush. Would you start Kareem Hunt or Najee Harris? I would start Najee over Kareem Hunt. I've got Kareem Hunt basically in the same place that I had him last week. A flex, a good flex, but a flex flex how about amari cooper or those running backs i would start both the running backs over amari cooper right it was a great performance from cooper i just is one of those these things where we have one terrible game and one really good game i have a hard time deciphering which one i'm supposed to believe i mean i don't expect anyone
Starting point is 00:37:43 to have great games week after week with Jacoby Brissett, but I lean more toward the start as a number three guy, because you are the lowest on him. Dave and Jamie have Cooper 36, like right around number three, number four receiver. You have him 45th in full PPR, and you have Cooper not even in the top 48 in non-PPR. So you have him as a number four or five guy, whereas Dave and you have him as a number 4-5 guy, whereas Dave and Jamie have Cooper as a 3-4. I guess they said that they wanted to get him more involved, and they did.
Starting point is 00:38:12 I didn't hear that, but I heard it on the broadcast during the game. I didn't hear that before the game. So they made it a point. The Steelers have been dreadful against wide receivers. Three wide receivers have reached 95 yards in two games, and one of them was Jamar Chase, but the others were Nelson Aguilar and Jacoby Myers.
Starting point is 00:38:29 So, yeah, I don't know. I mean, if he's at the highest, he's 36th wide receiver, he's not going to be started in all that many leagues. Kareem Hunt is a no, I'm sorry, Nick Chubb is a no doubt about it. We know what to do with Brissette and Trubisky. How about Deontay Johnson? How do you feel about Deontay Johnson this week? He has had 55 to 57 yards on 10 to 12 targets in both games.
Starting point is 00:38:55 No touchdowns. Yeah, it's kind of like what I said about... I don't remember now, but if you had 20 touches a game and you hadn't scored any touchdowns, you're probably a buy low. If you're getting 12 targets a game and you're not scoring touchdowns, you're probably a buy low. I'm starting Deontay Johnson as a number two wide receiver. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:15 You would definitely start Amonra St. Brown over him. Would you start Corlin Sutton or? Sutton. Sutton. Okay. Let me get some more wide receivers here. They've got Denzel Ward. Would you start Corlin Sutton or? Sutton. Sutton, okay. Let me get some more wide receivers here. Because, you know, look, they've got Denzel Ward.
Starting point is 00:39:31 He's not going to shadow Deontay Johnson most likely. He doesn't do that. He stays on his side, but he'll see some Deontay. Would you start Michael Thomas or Deontay Johnson? Thomas at Carolina. I would start Deontay Johnson. Would you start CeeDee Lamb at the Giants? Yes, Lamb. Oh, you have them back-to-back.
Starting point is 00:39:45 Lamb, then Deontay. Okay, so start Deontay Johnson. How about Jeff Wilson or Deontay Johnson? Wilson in non-PPR, Deontay in full, and in half, it's probably Deontay. No interest in Claypool? No, it's Wilson in half. No interest in Claypool or Pickens? No interest in Claypool or Pickens. No interest in Claypool or Pickens.
Starting point is 00:40:05 No interest in Peoples Jones? No interest in Peoples Jones. Start Pat Frymuth. Yeah, give me some tight ends you'd start Frymuth over. Most of them. He's a top six guy. I would start him... I'd start him over George Kittle.
Starting point is 00:40:19 If Kittle comes back, I'd start him over TJ Hawkinson. I'd start him over Zach Ertz. I'd start him over TJ Hawkinson. I'd start him over Zach Ertz. I'd start him over all the streamers. I think we're pretty much good here. How about the DSTs? Which one do you like better? You ask me these questions. Well, you have to rank them.
Starting point is 00:40:40 I know you have DST rankings. I do have them ranked. I have the Browns ranked higher. Boy, they've been so disappointing. The Browns have scored 10 fantasy points in two games. They were mine and I think everybody's favorite DST for the beginning of the year. One, because we thought they'd be good. Two, because they faced the Panthers and the Jets, and they've been bad. They allowed 24 points to the Panthers, 31 points to the Jets,
Starting point is 00:41:02 and they don't have Jadeveon Clowney. The Steelers, meanwhile, 27 points of the Jets, and they don't have Jadeveon Clowney. The Steelers, meanwhile, 27 points at the Bengals. They score, the DST scored 27 points. DST scoring is different in every league, I get that.
Starting point is 00:41:14 Six points against the Steelers, but noticeably worse without TJ Watt. They had seven sacks in week one. They had one in week two. Are they both good DSTs, or would you go
Starting point is 00:41:24 to the waiver wire? I would just start them okay nah nah nah nah nah nah sit david njoku we'll take a break when we come back buy low sell high more players that have moved up or down in the rankings for heath cummings but we're going to hear from you with your buy low and sell high candidates and we're going to crap all over all of your suggestions. No, just kidding. We will be right back on Fantasy Football today. Oh, my phone is ringing. I've got to turn that off here. Welcome back, everybody. How unprofessional.
Starting point is 00:41:51 I can't imagine. I always get blamed for that and it seems like it's not always my fault. You said sit David Njoku. Is he still rostered? I don't know. A percentage of leagues? When I do my Thursday... What should we do with Harrison Bryant?
Starting point is 00:42:07 That's the more relevant question, I think. Why don't you guess Njoku's roster percentage? 57%. It's 41%. 41%. When I break down a game on Tuesday, I never put the roster percentages in for a guy like Njoku
Starting point is 00:42:21 because I figure he's going to get dropped. Yeah. Yeah, drop David Njoku, I guess is what I should have said. Okay. Buy low, sell high. I asked you on Twitter who your buy lows, who your sell highs. James Shattle says buy low on Marquise Brown and sell high on Antonio Gibson.
Starting point is 00:42:41 I think Antonio Gibson is probably the most popular sell high. The problem is finding someone who doesn't already know that. But if you can sell high on Antonio Gibson. I think Antonio Gibson is probably the most popular sell high. The problem is finding someone who doesn't already know that. But if you can sell high on Antonio Gibson, I would do that. I am not as interested in buying low on Marquise Brown. I do not believe that DeAndre Hopkins coming back is going to make things better for Brown. I do not understand what's going on with Marquise Brown. He does have 17 targets in two games.
Starting point is 00:43:06 He's got two respectable games. 14.3 PPR points. 12.8 PPR points. What is going on here? Why is he not better? I'm not sure we know the answer to that. I think maybe just our expectations were a little too high for him. I think he's just
Starting point is 00:43:22 a boom bust borderline number two wide receiver. Yeah. What do you think he'll be? And, and, but honestly you might be able to buy low on him with the idea that he's a borderline number two wide receiver. Cause people might be really down on him. And you know, what's funny is James, when he wrote by low on Brown, he actually thinks Hopkins coming back would be a good thing for him. We don't. But at the same time, Marquise Brown's off to a slow start. Hopkins is coming back after four more games. People might be really low on Marquise Brown. And you might be able to just get him for cheap.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Yeah. I'm trying to think what I would give up for him. I'd rather have Garrett Wilson and Drake London for sure. I'd rather have Drake London. I'm not to think what I would give up for him. I'd rather have Garrett Wilson and Drake London for sure. I'd rather have Drake London. I'm not sure about Wilson, but I guess I'd rather see where it goes with Wilson. He might just be great. I'd rather have Brown than DK Metcalf though.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Okay. Yeah, I mean, if you could sell Tyler Lockett for him, if you could sell Marty Cooper for Marquise Brown, I'd do that. Unless your team is loaded and you're just waiting out until Hopkins gets back, I guess. I mean, sorry, until Watson gets back. All right, from Bay650, buy low on Derek Henry, sell high on Clyde Edwards-Elair.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Agree with Clyde Edwards-Elair. If you can get someone to buy as a top 15 running back, I think he's RB5 for the season right now. I think you'll have a hard time getting somebody to buy at what he's been. But if you could get somebody to buy him as a top 15 running back, yes. I still think he's kind of what I thought he was,
Starting point is 00:44:54 a boom bust number two running back for the rest of the year. But I'd rather have Clyde right now than I would Najee Harris. Is that because of the foot? It's because it's kind of like the Gabe Davis versus those rookie wide receivers, maybe. I'd like to have the guy that's on the good offense.
Starting point is 00:45:11 I just think the Steelers are terrible, and I don't think things are getting any better for Najee Harris. Man, I would much rather have Najee Harris. If you told me they were both going to play the same amount of games, I'd much rather have Najee Harris than Clyde. He just has such a bigger role and the most valuable roles too. I mean, he is the goal line guy and the passing downs guy, pass catching guy. And I don't know week to week. If they're going to get more aggressive with their passing game, that would tell me fewer targets for Najee. But he's still the running back.
Starting point is 00:45:38 That doesn't mean they're not going to throw to a running back ever. He's still going to be on the field for almost every running. Right. I think he might see three catches a game or four catches a game. And that's kind of where Clyde is right now. I just think he's going to have so many more touches. He will have a lot more carries for sure. But he needs probably
Starting point is 00:45:58 30%, 20% more carries to match the expected yards for Clyde. I wish I could have this passionate argument with you about how you're way too low on Najee Harris, but the foot injury lingers in the back of my mind. Right. You know, because... Well, and again, I think it makes sense
Starting point is 00:46:18 that we are all more confident in downgrading these guys that we were worried about before or upgrading these guys that we were excited about before. True. That's kind of what we do. And so Najee Harris is on my bust list in June and July. So a terrible start to the season is going to make me think he might be a bust.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I know, but behind Clyde Edwards-Elier? Well, I had Clyde as a top 20 running back at the end of draft season. Okay. From Ariel, buy low on Dalvin Cook and CeeDee Lamb. Sell high on Michael Thomas and Antonio Gibson. Gibson we agree with. I agree with pretty much all of that.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I'm not sure about Michael Thomas. Yeah, I don't know the sell high case for Michael Thomas, I guess. Well, I think the case would be where he ranks top 10 right now, right? Probably. And he was, last time we saw him fully healthy, the number one wide receiver in fantasy. Oh, yeah, you can't be buying that. That's not what he's going to be.
Starting point is 00:47:21 He's ninth currently. So if somebody said that they would trade you mike evans for michael thomas i think i'd rather i'd still rather have mike evans um yeah but i hate to say this but i would take him over dj more at this point it's really really close i probably just wouldn't make the trade but i think you could probably get cd lamb and something for michael thomas and i'd i'd still rather have lamb sure yeah i i love michael thomas i have a lot of michael thomas i view him as a number two receiver and you know so if you can get a number one value go for it uh from open wider Sell high on Najee Harris before the wheels fall off
Starting point is 00:48:06 and buy low on CeeDee Lamb and Kyle Pitts. I don't think we have to rehash the Najee Harris discussion, but what about Pitts? The hard part with Pitts is, because there is like 60% or 50% of Twitter that just is really anti-Kyle Pitts right now. But those are not the people who drafted Kyle Pitts. I don't know the people who drafted Kyle Pitts
Starting point is 00:48:27 are ready to sell low on him at the tight end position yet. So it might be harder to buy low on Pitts. I don't know how you could sell high on Najee Harris. Well, I think you could to someone like me. You know, because I still think that if someone feels that Najee Harris is a good buy low, I don't even care about the foot injury. If you could tell me that I – personally, if I could give up Clyde Edwards-Hilaire to get Najee Harris, I would do that in a heartbeat. You should ask for more than Clyde Edwards-Hilaire for Najee Harris. Like I made that comment, and it's my personal thing that I wouldn't trade Najee for Clyde Edwards-Hilaire for Najee Harris. I made that comment, and it's my personal thing, but I wouldn't trade Najee for Clyde Edwards-Hilaire.
Starting point is 00:49:06 Get more than that. I would trade Miles Sanders for... I would trade any of those guys. I would trade a Rams running back. Oh, yeah, for sure. I would much rather have Najee than both the Rams. I would trade Garrett Wilson for Najee Harris, and this is low.
Starting point is 00:49:19 I still think that if we're redrafting today, Najee Harris' average draft position is probably going to be in the third round. That's my guess. Yeah. That's how I feel people would value him as a third round pick. Would you rather
Starting point is 00:49:38 have Javante Williams or Najee Harris? Javante. As far as pits goes, if we're redrafting today, you're taking Kittle, Waller, Pitts. How would you rank them? Waller, Pitts, Kittle. If you promised me that Kittle was fine now and was going to play the rest of the season,
Starting point is 00:49:59 the Kittle was, then I would go Waller, Kittle, Pitts. We pretty much know what to expect from Kittle now. The mystery is gone. If he's on the field, this is the 49ers offense and George Kittle is going to be freaking awesome. Healthy Kittle over Pitts, but we don't know if he's healthy, so I might take Pitts over him right now. This is from Justin
Starting point is 00:50:17 Bellamy. Is it crazy to sell high on Stefan Diggs? He had his big week last week without Gabriel Davis. How high? What's the point? He's obviously a top 12 player. He had eight catches for 122 yards
Starting point is 00:50:35 and a touchdown at the Rams in week one. So I'm not selling high on Diggs. I'd still rather have Chase, but... Me too. From Tyler, would you sell high on Pittman with the injury and how bad Matt Ryan looks?
Starting point is 00:50:49 Are you concerned at all? If you're going to do that, I think you need to do it after week one. It'd be really tough. I think he has to have another big game for you to be able to sell high on him now. I don't know what to make of what the Jaguars did in week two to the Colts,
Starting point is 00:51:01 but remember, Josh Allen had one of his worst games last year, probably his worst, against the Jaguars. And, you know, he was fine. From Jesse, buy low on Darnell, not a goonie moonie. He's not a goonie. Somebody drops him, and you want to pick him up all the way where?
Starting point is 00:51:19 I think that makes a lot of sense. From Kale, sell high on Cortland Sutton. Russell Wilson is bad. I'm not selling high on Cortland Sutton. Russell Wilson is bad. I'm not selling high on Cortland Sutton, but if Jerry Judy... Well, yeah, I might. Because I do think if Jerry Judy comes back
Starting point is 00:51:35 and is just fine in a week or two, that Sutton and Judy are probably both low-end number twos. Who do you feel best about buying low on at the quarterback position? Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, or Kirk Cousins? I thought you were going to say Rogers. Cousins or Brady. Okay. Then throw Rogers in there. Rogers and Wilson. I do not want to buy low on.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I agree with half of that statement. Like Rogers, I think we thought he was a questionable top 12 quarterback coming into the year. And so the buy low part would be in like a two QB sense for me. I wonder if you could buy low on Alan Lazard. Not that I necessarily want to, but if you believe in him, missing week one, basically doing nothing besides scoring a touchdown in week two like there might be people who just think he's a bench receiver i kind of do yeah i mean i was pretty discouraged he was one of my favorite draft values so i was pretty
Starting point is 00:52:37 discouraged with alan lazard just because they're so run heavy they're gonna i think they're gonna want to be that run heavy not not that okay not not necessarily that run heavy they're so run heavy. I think they're going to want to be that run heavy. Not necessarily that run heavy. They're not going to blow out a team every week. But they obviously want to run the ball. And every player, no player had more than three targets on the team last week. Then I thought about it.
Starting point is 00:52:57 I looked back at what the Chargers did in week one. No player had more than four targets for the Chargers in week one. And things changed dramatically in week two. So Lazard played the most snaps by far, ran the most routes by far. I still think he's the number one wide receiver. I maybe have to lower my expectations a little bit,
Starting point is 00:53:15 but I do think I'd say by low. I don't think he's a bench receiver. I think he's a bench receiver in a two-receiver league. Lazard or Juju? Flip a coin, who cares? No or Juju? Flip a coin. Who cares? No, I care about both of them.
Starting point is 00:53:29 You know, I'm going to take Juju in full PPR, Lazard in non or half. Fair. Here are a quick round of emails from Jared. Oh, wait,
Starting point is 00:53:43 wait. No. Okay. We'll get into it. We talk once from Jared. I must drop one wait. No, okay. We'll get into it when we talk, Wentz. From Jared, I must drop one of these from my roster before Sunday. Gallup, Mooney, or Garrett Wilson?
Starting point is 00:53:55 Gallup. From Vic, would you guys rather stash Michael Gallup or Jamison Williams? If you have, I mean, if you have an IR spot, it's Williams. If you don't, it's Gallup or Jamison Williams? If you have... I mean, if you have an IR spot, it's Williams. If you don't, it's Gallup. From Jeremy.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Dear Gary, Alonzo, Marcus, and Rudy. Who is that? Gary, Alonzo, Marcus, and Rudy. That seems like a back-up ball team. It does. Those defensive players of the year,
Starting point is 00:54:33 Gary Payton, Alonzo, Mourning, Marcus Smart, and Rudy Gobert? That would be very impressive, Heath. In my league, we have the Chiefs and the Saints DSTs available. I already have the Broncos. Heath has the Broncos ranked the highest, but Dave and Jamie don't like them this week. They love the Chiefs. They have them number one this week,
Starting point is 00:54:52 while Heath has them 16th. So if you have the Broncos, Chiefs, and Saints available to you, Heath, what would you tell Jeremy to do? I am really a little bit too busy Googling to see if Lonzo Mourning won defensive player of the year. And he did. He must have. And so I don't know what he meant by that, but 100% I'm claiming credit for that being right.
Starting point is 00:55:13 Yeah, I'll go for that. I also don't know. Yeah, Rudy Gobert certainly had to have won it. Anyway, why do I hate the Chiefs defense? They have them number one yeah against the colts um they can't do that if michael pittman plays my opinion yeah i don't think the chiefs defense i mean they're fine i don't think they're particularly good they don't have a great pass rush uh they don't have their starting linebacker willie gay for the next four games i just don't have a great pass rush. They don't have their starting linebacker,
Starting point is 00:55:45 Willie Gay, for the next four games. I just don't... I don't think the Chiefs are that special, but I think the Chiefs would make an excellent... Heath, why are you so low on the Chiefs this week? We haven't played that game yet this year. You know what? I would split the difference and just go with the Saints
Starting point is 00:56:01 because the Saints are the one DST in this discussion that are ranked in the top eight for all three of our analysts. Top four for Jamie and Dave, eighth for Heath. So Heath would say go with the Broncos. Jamie and Dave would say go with the Chiefs. I'll say the one DST that everybody likes
Starting point is 00:56:18 is the Saints, and they have the Panthers. I agree with this sentiment. Okay, good. From Dan, grade the trade. Give up Justin Herbert, Jeff Wilson, Tyler Lockett, and Rashad Penny. Herbert, Wilson, Lockett, and Penny. Get Matthew Stafford and Justin Jefferson.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Deal. From Dan, do I trade Debo Samuel for Najee Harris and Devin DuVernay? I was supposed to grade that. B minus. Trade Debo for Najee and and Devin DuVernay. I was supposed to grade that B minus. Trey Debo for Najee and... No, no, no, no, no, no. All right, let's do more rankings movers
Starting point is 00:56:53 to end the show, Heath. I think we've got to talk about Carson Wentz. 56 minutes in, sorry about that. What do you think about him rest of season? And you would take him over Russell Wilson, rest of season. Yeah, I think Carson Wentz is a borderline top 12 quarterback rest of season. Maybe even a slightly better. The Russell Wilson versus Carson Wentz thing, it started out as a this week thing,
Starting point is 00:57:18 then it turned into a as long as Jerry Judy is out thing. And I definitely believe both of those things. Rest of season, I think it's really close, and it's not something where I would probably want to make a trade either way. But I think they're kind of the same thing because Russell Wilson's not running anymore at all and doesn't look like a quarterback who should be. And their offensive philosophy is a mixed bag of poo. And Wentz has been a high-end number two quarterback at worst every year that he's played at least 14 games. And largely he's
Starting point is 00:57:54 done that recently on teams that aren't throwing all that much. Scott Turner's offense have been about as pass heavy, not as anybody in the league, but certainly in the top third of the league. He's throwing more than 40 times a game. I think he's going to average more than 37 attempts for the rest of the year. And he has a very, very talented core of pass catchers. If Curtis Samuel stays healthy and you've got McLaurin, Dotson, and Curtis Samuel, then you've got Logan Thomas at tight end, both Gibson and McKissick as pass catching backs, coupled with a just atrocious defense right now that might get better and only be bad, but it's not going to be good at any point this year.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I think Wentz has everything lined up for him, even if he's not a good real life quarterback, that he's going to be a good fantasy quarterback. I don't disagree with that. I just don't, I just wouldn't take him over Russell Wilson. And he's going to run for probably 10 times as many yards as Russell Wilson.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Hmm. Six times. Okay. I don't know. 250 yards for Wentz, 40 for Wilson? No, I think Wilson will be,
Starting point is 00:58:59 what did Matthew Stafford run for last year? Look that up if you wouldn't mind. 23? No, I feel like it was, I feel like it was like 80 to 100 yards. Maybe I'm crazy. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else.
Starting point is 00:59:12 All right, look, here's the thing about Wilson. I still believe, I'm going to give him another week at least. They are moving the ball. They are top eight in total yards. They are terrible right now in the red zone. I gave these stats on Monday's show, and I don't quite remember them, but he is one of like six or seven quarterbacks that have
Starting point is 00:59:31 10 to 12 pass attempts inside the 10-yard line, and he's the only one that has fewer than three touchdown passes, and he has zero. So things will turn for Russell Wilson. He's had some almost touchdowns. He's had some bad luck. There's been some terrible play calling, which I believe will benefit Javante Williams as well.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Just give him the ball. They're a joke right now. They cannot score. They're breaking the huddle late. They look like they have a rookie head coach and a new quarterback. As bad as they have been, I really feel like it's only going to get better for the Broncos offensively because there's just too much talent there. I really feel like it's only going to get better for the Broncos offensively because there's just too much talent there.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Matthew Stafford ranked 41st amongst all quarterbacks in rushing yards last year with 43. Who was it that had like, I don't know. Baker Mayfield at 134.
Starting point is 01:00:22 No. How many did Wilson have? 183. Right. So I mean, is he that much slower than he was last year i don't think so i know i just it's a different coach in a different system yeah but he'll scramble a little bit okay he'll get to 100 he tried to scramble in week two and he fell down all right there's nobody around him other players moving up in your rankings giovante williams well jalen hurts giovante williams and jeff wilson yeah jalen hurts it's no longer a like aspirational he could be top he could be the number one quarterback it's more of a man it might just be him or josh allen is
Starting point is 01:00:59 the number one quarterback i know that hurts is not currently top number two but we talked about it just one passing touchdown and he's qb6 he has a monster game coming a two a game coming and uh that'll vault him back up where he belongs i i was encouraged by the fact that in week one giovante was so involved in the passing game and in week two he played a higher percentage of the snaps um i i think giovante is going to be a borderline top 12 running back maybe even a top eight or ten running back if the usage is the same as it was in week two and we simply cannot just assume that it will be but if it is then he'll be an arguably a top five player i think well what if the usage is the same as it was in week one
Starting point is 01:01:44 i'm gonna say that won't happen because that was the Seahawks and that's just what people do, what teams do to the Seahawks. But yes, you're right. If he gets 11 passes, he looks like he really could just be an incredible breakout. But next week, would you be shocked if Melvin Gordon had 10 carries and Javante had 13? I wouldn't shock you.
Starting point is 01:02:06 No, not at all. Jeff Wilson's obviously moved up. Number two running back, basically, you'll be ranking him? Number two running back for as long as he can stay healthy. But he's never played more than 12 games, so go add Jordan Mason. The players that you gave me on the down list, I think you already talked about Najee.
Starting point is 01:02:22 No, you talked about Etn mooney and comet so the others are naji harris which has been a theme on today's show i think he's a low end number two running back robert woods he's droppable and check his roster percentage it was 74 after week one or going into week two and it is now 71 so he hasn't been dropped in enough leagues and george pickens 73 percent rostered uh well that was before waivers ran see where pickens is now but uh let me give you one thing on pickens 69 percent roster now he has he has had two catches on six targets in his first two games you know who else had six targets in his first two games. You know who else had six targets in his first two games? Justin Jefferson.
Starting point is 01:03:08 I am not dropping. I have not dropped George Pickens. I'm not advising anyone to drop George Pickens. I've lowered him in the rankings because I think week one, he was like wide receiver 40 for me, and he's not being ranked on a weekly basis now. But the Justin Jefferson set I thought was actually a DJ Morstead. I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Like, you know, look, that's pretty rare for a guy to have six targets in his first two games. I think he had like 150 yards in week three or something, Justin Jefferson as a rookie. And that's why I was saying, I don't think Pickens really has that kind of upside. He's not in as good of offense.
Starting point is 01:03:44 He doesn't have as good a quarterback and he has Deontay Johnson on the team. Right. Jefferson week three, actually for him in his rookie year was seven catches, 175 yards and a touchdown. And of course I dropped him for Peyton Barber before. So yeah. All right. That's it for today's show. Thank you for watching and listening everybody. Tomorrow we've got our starter set for the AFC home game. For Heath Cummings, I'm Adam Azer. Have a good one. Talk to you soon. Deep in the ocean, an orca pod
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