Fantasy Football Today - VALUE ALERT! NFL Veterans Who Could Be Affected by the NFL Draft (04/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: April 22, 2026

Join our NFL Draft Contest! tinyurl.com/draftfft What does history tell us about what happens to veteran wide receivers or quarterbacks when their team drafts a productive rookie WR? We'll talk abou...t the trends and who has a lot at stake this weekend. Also, Jamey mentions the player that has the most to lose (5:25) on Thursday night. Basically, who will have their value destroyed by Jeremiyah Love? We've also got a lot of news and notes (10:10) on Sean Tucker, Puka Nacua, Trent Williams and more ... We continue to focus on backfields that could be affected by the NFL Draft (15:35). What would Jeremiyah Love do to the values of Cam Skattebo and James Conner? Which NFL running backs might lose value if their team drafts a RB in Rounds 2 or 3 of the NFL Draft? ... Now let's focus on QBs (35:40) and WRs (46:50). How much would Jaxson Dart, Tyler Shough, Jayden Daniels, Malik Willis and Matthew Stafford benefit from a first round WR draft pick? Which rookie would we like to see paired with Shough? And at WR, do great veteran WRs really get hurt by the addition of rookies? Would Terry McLaurin or Chris Olave have more to lose if their respective team drafts a WR in the Top 10? ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:13 It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Happy NFL Draft Eve, everybody. It's Wednesday, April 22nd. This is fantasy football today. I'm Adam Azer with Jamie Eisenberg. We're hoping to be joined by Dave Richard in a little bit. If not, it'll just be me and Jamie chopping it up.
Starting point is 00:01:35 We're going to talk about the NFL veterans that could be the most affected by the NFL draft. In a good way, like a quarterback adding a weapon, or in a bad way, like a running back, having to share backfill with Jeremiah, I love. Jamie, what's going? Is there really, because you asked us, you know, give us people who will benefit or lose from the NFL, gain or lose, I believe is your phrase. Does anybody gain from the NFL draft aside from a quarterback? Because receivers lose targets, running backs lose jobs.
Starting point is 00:02:05 I was trying to think. I'm like, well, yes. Okay. So this is, you could look at a team like Carolina maybe. Okay. And let's say they draft a wide receiver, surprisingly, right? And you'd go, ooh, it's not good for Tedd-Role-McMillan. And that would probably be, if it were one of the top three wide receivers,
Starting point is 00:02:27 that would probably be my reaction. But I do think there is a scenario, and I've seen this, and I can look for some examples in my notes, of teams that, like, Carolina was, I think, 27th in pass attempts last year, they would change their offense in a way where McMillan would actually benefit because they'd be a more pass-heavy team. So I would just say if the Panthers, as one example, drafts, I don't know that Sadiq's really going to make a difference, but if they draft a wide receiver, I don't know that it's that bad for McMillan because I think. think it might change their offense a little bit. They were so conservative down the stretch, like last six games of the season or something, throwing 27 times per game. It could be that. But you're right.
Starting point is 00:03:08 You're saying ad weapon changed philosophy players benefit. Yes. I guess I was looking at it more like in your Carolina scenario, like, well, hell, man, you just hate Jalen Coker. Like, Coker, yeah, I mean, but I think the more interesting situation, because look, if an NFL team I didn't mean to bug you down with the Carolina discussion. No, I mean, Koker is the kind of guy that I think would be irrelevant. I think if the Giants or the Saints draft a wide receiver in the top eight, I think that kills, not kills, but I think that could really hurt.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Juan Johnson, like, forget it. No one's going to even consider him, right? Isaiah likely would probably be hurt by that. But what about neighbors? You know, the conversation is really, would neighbors be affected? Would Chris Olave? Would Terry McLaurin? or are they too good?
Starting point is 00:03:58 So what does the history tell us? I do have some research on that, basically. I'd be concerned about neighbors just because of his injury. Obviously, I'd be a little concerned about McLaurin and Olavet because I think they're in such good situations right now. And yes, the tight ends will clearly be affected as well. All right, let's get into it. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I'm going to tell you about our NFL draft contest as well. But I'll do that right now. The URL is tiny URL.com. slash draft FFT. There's a lot of Fs and T's in that, but it's tiny URL.com slash draft FFT. You go to that URL,
Starting point is 00:04:37 and there's a link in my Twitter profile, on Twitter for me, and anyway, I'll put it in the episode description too. You go there, you fill out this form, and all you have to do is tell us the top 10 picks in order.
Starting point is 00:04:50 It says, who will be picked number one? Who will be picked number two? It doesn't matter the team that selects them. You just got to give us the top 10 picks in order, and you need to give us first and last name, and you need to spell it correctly. And whoever gets the most right is in the podcast league. We'll have a tiebreaker.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Just so we're clear, so everybody understands, if the Cowboys trade up to three to get Jeremiah Love and you just put Jeremiah Love third, it does not matter. That is a correct guess. Yes. Jamie, give me the one player that right now, if you had them on a dynasty roster, you're going, I think Thursday is going to be really bad for this guy. I think the most obvious one is probably Tony Pollard, just because it seems as if barring the Cardinals' recent potential move to get Jeremiah Love at 3,
Starting point is 00:05:39 I don't think he gets past 4. And so Pollard would be the one that makes me the most nervous. There was, I think it's, I think it might be your Dynasty League. And it wasn't an official offer. It was an email just going back to our conversation. Somebody asked me, would I be willing to trade Jalen Koker for Tyler Algier? And I need the receiver help more than I need the running back help in that league. I think if I got the league's correct because there's several people in Heathstein.
Starting point is 00:06:08 I don't know also. But like I'd be nervous to be holding on to Jalen Koker slash also wanting to acquire Tyler Alger, you know, just because you could see it go either direction. I agree with you. I think big man to go adding a fast catcher. I also think the Cardinals could be adding Jeremiah Love. So, you know, those type of players, I think, make you nervous. Yeah, I was going to say James Connor.
Starting point is 00:06:30 James Connor has been a top 16 running back per game in six of the last eight seasons. He's been really good for fantasy. He's going to be 31 years old in May. And if they add Jeremiah Love, just he's not going to be a top 16 running back. Yeah, he's probably cut. I'm sure we'll talk about this when it happens on Thursday night. By the way, programming update Thursday night after round one, Friday night after rounds two and three, Saturday after rounds four through seven.
Starting point is 00:06:55 We are on the air recapping the action. Let me see the updated numbers here. Over the last 11 seasons, there have been 16 running backs drafted in the first round. Let's go to 15 running backs. Let's take Travis E.T.N out because he missed his entire rookie season. So that's 15 running backs in the last 11 season drafted in round one. 13 of them averaged 15.5 or more touches per game. Seven of them, seven of the 15,
Starting point is 00:07:26 averaged 18.9 or more touches per game. Do you think Jeremiah Love, I think 15.5 feels like a given, but do you think 18.9, which is what Genti averaged last year, touches per game, more likely to get that with Arizona or Tennessee? I'll say Tennessee right now just because if they decide to keep Connor and let's say move on from Benson, then I think that's a problem.
Starting point is 00:07:56 If they keep Benson and move on from Connor, then it's easy to say, Algeria, you're the backup, Benson, you're the third guy, and we're getting all that work for love. Now, the reason I think you're hearing a lot about love is that it's coming from the top. You know, ownership, GM, those type of things are driving this potential move because they don't need Jeremiah Love. They need a lot of other things. You know, they need a lot of help defensively. So does Tennessee, but I think when you look at it, like you have some offensive pieces in Arizona, like they can get by without having that running game to support what they need. And I think they're, you know, you're looking at a young quarterback in Cam Ward that can use that support more so, if that makes sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:39 So I would I would rather see him go to Tennessee than I would see him go to, go to Arizona. but as Kevin Bowers 7159 suggests, I agree. I think that all this noise from Arizona is they're trying to drum up trade interest in a draft where there's not a lot of star potential at usually prime spots. The start potential is at the spots that people don't necessarily covet running back being one of them. Positions, yeah, yeah. Positions, yes, yeah, yeah. Positions that people don't necessarily covet.
Starting point is 00:09:08 And I would like to see if a team that really could feature Jeremiah Love to the way we want to feature them to the numbers you just gave out, to the Ashton Gendee numbers, you know, close to 20 touches per game. I don't even know if that's Tennessee, to be honestly, because Pollard will still get some touches, and that can be annoying. Yeah, I know, right. The two running backs who didn't,
Starting point is 00:09:31 the two rookie first round pick running backs in the last 11 years, who did not get 15 and a half touches per game. Remember, 13 of 15, got 15 and a half for more touches. The two that did not were Christian McCaffrey and Rashad Penny. and Christian McCaffrey was playing behind
Starting point is 00:09:47 Jonathan Stewart, I believe. With Jonathan Stewart? Yeah. McCaffrey averaged 12.3 touches per game as a rookie. And Rashad Penny averaged 6.7. I think he was playing behind Chris Carson, I believe. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:03 So let's do some news and notes. We actually have a lot of news and notes. We'll get back into this discussion in a bit. The Buccaneers signed Sean Tucker to a one-year deal of $3.52 million. Good handcuff, right? I mean, I would guess that if there's something that happens to Bucky Irving, we get Tucker getting more carries than Kenneth Gainwell.
Starting point is 00:10:26 But this is just a crowded situation that's messy because now Tucker could be the goal line guy, taking touchdown opportunities away from Bucky Irving. Obviously, Gainmell is going to come in and play on passing downs. There's no way that he's not getting opportunities and work after what he did last year. And I think how Zach Robinson wants this offense to operate. So I'm still a Bucky Irving guy. I'm still hopeful that he could be the type of running back we saw in his rookie season. And at the start of last year, you know, before injuries became a problem for him.
Starting point is 00:10:53 But clearly this is a backfield that we're going to see maybe three guys getting touches. And that's not good. Yeah, maybe that's such a good handcuff. But the goal line situation is interesting. He had seven carries from the three-yard line or closer. Sean Tucker last year. He had seven. Bucky Irvin did not have one.
Starting point is 00:11:11 He had 11 as a rookie, Bucky Irving. but he lost that role last year and Tucker scored three touchdowns in the last five games of the season. Bucky Irving did not score any rushing touchdowns in the last five games of the season. What else we got? Pooka and Nakua, a full participant in OTAs.
Starting point is 00:11:28 The 49ers gave Trent Williams their left tackle a two-year, $50 million extension. We like that. Teteroa McMillan wants to add weight and muscle. We don't typically like that. Is this a red flag for you? Tetero-McMillan wanted to gain weight? it's more so for running backs than it is for receivers, but I mean, listen, he's already
Starting point is 00:11:46 what I would put in the category of a bigger physical receiver as opposed to a burner. Not that he can't run, but look, just hopefully it's not a situation where it slows him down. You know, you can gain the right amount of weight and the right amount of muscle and still be okay because the way that these guys train these days and obviously the things they eat. But yeah, it's not the most ideal situation. But typically that's more of a running back conversation than is receiver. Okay, so that's Tyrone McMillan, who, you know, Marvin Harrison Jr. was a guy last year said he wanted to put on more weight, bulk up because he wanted to do better with contested catches.
Starting point is 00:12:20 McMillan definitely needs to improve the catch rate last year. It was below 60%. Daniel Jones has begun to drop back and throw. It's a nice step for him. Alec Pierce is out about three months after ankle surgery, so we're hoping Alex Pierce is ready at some point early in training camp. The Cowboys signed their kicker, Brandon Aubrey, to a four-year $28 million extension. couple of NFL draft prospects. Tennessee cornerback, Dramad McCoy. He got it. I guess there's a report out there
Starting point is 00:12:49 that bad medical situation for McCoy. Teams are worried that he's going to need another surgery that could make him miss a lot of time. And I'd say good news for Garrett Nussmeyer, who played through oblique pain last year, he's LSU's quarterback. He has a cyst in his spine that was causing the oblique pain.
Starting point is 00:13:09 So I think that's something they'll be able to get rid of won't have a long recovery there. CBS Sports's Jonathan Jones says that Arizona has been linked to Alabama quarterback Ty Simpson more than any other team. That would be not with the third pick. That would be trading into the first round, maybe, or if he makes it to the second round. Doctors believe that Baltimore defensive tackle Namdi Madabouquet could play this season. He hurt his neck in week two, and he is a great player.
Starting point is 00:13:37 And if he can get back for the Ravens on that defensive line, that would be huge. And just some players that might get traded tomorrow during the draft, Anthony Richardson, Kenny Moore, a cornerback for the Colts, Brandon I.Uke, Kyle Pitts, Kvon Thibodeau. These are guys who could get traded tomorrow. All right. We're going to talk about NFL veterans who could be affected by the NFL draft. We're going to do it after this quick break on fantasy football today. We'll be right back. Hey, Ontario. Come on down to BetMGM Casino and see what our newest exclusive the Price's Right Fortune pick has to offer. Miss out. Play exciting casino games based on the iconic game show only at Betmgm. Check out how we've reimagined three of the show's iconic games, like Plinko, Clifhanger, and the Big Wheel into fun casino game features. Don't forget to download the BenMGM Casino app for exclusive access
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Starting point is 00:14:58 BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with Eye Gaming Ontario. All right, Jamie. So the first conversation is about NFL veterans that could be affected by the draft at the running back position, backfields that could lose. And you've talked a lot about Arizona and Tennessee. They are picking third and fourth. You have the Giants picking fifth. You have the Browns picking six.
Starting point is 00:15:18 We don't think they'll draft a running back there. But Washington picking seventh, if they don't move up, if Love is still there at seven, the report from Scheffler was that he's not going to get past seven. And Washington could maybe even move up. So out of Arizona, Tennessee, the Giants in Washington rank them. first, I guess, your favorite spot for love, and then we'll talk about how the veterans would be affected. Including the two we already mentioned?
Starting point is 00:15:46 Yeah, Arizona, Tennessee, Giants, commanders. Yeah, I think we did this on Express the other day, right? So my favorite spot would actually be Washington. I do like the idea of him going there, being paired with Jane Daniels. And, you know, I think the competition would just be Rashad White mostly in a passing down's role. So I don't think that would impact him, at least for this year, as much as it could in Arizona or it could in Tennessee. But obviously all three of those spots are going to be featuring him if they take him that soon.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Look, the giant situation is interesting because I think Camp Scadaboo is going to have a role if they were to add love, maybe at the goal line. You know, I don't think it would be three guys sharing it. So Tracy would probably be irrelevant. But, I mean, these are not the Raiders from a year ago. You know, when we knew that Gentie was, you know, when we found out Gentie, he was going there. You know, it was
Starting point is 00:16:38 where he most, I believe, was the opening, backup running back, if I'm not mistaken, you know, the start of last season. So it was never a scenario
Starting point is 00:16:45 where there was going to be guys or at least guys that have a resume that were going to share with him. And in the case of, at least in Tennessee, in Arizona, and I would say the Giants,
Starting point is 00:16:55 there are guys with resumes. You know, in the case of Washington, Rashad White can sort of just sort of go into the role where I think he's probably best suited as a change of pace guy and a pass catcher. I would prefer Washington as the destination for Jeremiah.
Starting point is 00:17:09 All right. So if Washington, I mean, I don't think you'd have to be worried about to Corey Kroski-Mert personally or anyone really in Washington. I don't know, you tell me. But of those four teams, Arizona, Tennessee, Giants, and Washington, which veteran player would still have. have the most fantasy value if he were paired with Jeremiah Love? I guess I would say Rashad White, just because, like, his role could be what it is, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:50 and we've seen guys still have success in that type of role, him included, you know, during his rookie campaign in tandem with Bucky Irving when Irving eventually took over. We saw the Kenneth Game All last year where he was sharing with Jalen Warren. Warren was still a really good running back. Obviously doesn't have the same pedigree as Love, so Love would still be outstanding. So you can still have success as that second option and be, you know, flex-worthy. I think if he goes to Arizona, you're hoping for Tyler Algeria score touchdowns. Again, I don't see James Connor probably surviving roster cuts, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:25 or they try to trade him, you know, to a team that can use a veteran running back that still has a little bit of juice. Obviously, in Tennessee, he's going to take Tony Pollard's touches. And then either he goes into a past catching role or Tadier Spears, you know, remains in somewhat of that role. and they try to trade Pollard. But look, I mean, anywhere he goes, he's taking the job. You know, he's going to be the guy, you know, whether it's the 15 and a half or 18 and a half,
Starting point is 00:18:47 I don't forget the 18.9, yeah. Yeah. You know, that's, to me, the 15 and a half is the floor. Yeah, Scataboo is interesting in this conversation. Not only if the Giants at 5 select a running back, which would obviously be love, but even if they select a wide receiver because so much of Scataboo's value came from his receiving. He took over as the third downback, even though he came into the NFL with a reputation of being a bad pass protector. And he graded out, according to PFF, as a really bad pass
Starting point is 00:19:21 protector. But from weeks two through seven, week one and eight, he played less than 22% of the snaps. From weeks two through seven, Cam Scadabu was on pace for 60 catches for 50 yards and three receiving touchdowns. Dave, Richard, hello? Hey, tell me more. All right, but first you got to fix your mic, your mic settings. You're just not using the good mic. But anyway, you'll get that fixed. You'll tell me what mic I'm using.
Starting point is 00:19:50 But yeah, remember Jamie, Malik Neighbors was out for some of that. I don't know, Scataboo is just so interesting. The guy was an absolute beast. And I do wonder if he maybe poses the biggest threat to Jeremiah loves potential of any running back here. And if he would still have a goal line rule, for example, you know, Jamie, what do you think about if the Giants take love, what that looks like? I think Tracy would be in trouble, certainly.
Starting point is 00:20:18 But what about Scataboo? I mean, he's obviously going to be in trouble. And listen, they may, you know, look at his health situation right now and say, we'd like to have two backs eventually, but at the start of the season, we're not going to have that. And so we don't know what that means in terms of easing Scataboo back in. But when everybody's healthy, it's a different. regime. You know, you're talking about a new coach, essentially who's going to have a huge
Starting point is 00:20:40 say in personnel. You have a new offensive coordinator. What Scadawood did last year, we see this a lot. We see guys step into situations where everything around the, the, everything in the offense, you know, was falling apart. You know, they had a new quarterback coming in, which we were, you know, eventually going to see, you know, Jackson Dart taking over. But you had just injuries everywhere, you know, and so you bring back neighbors who these two guys really didn't play together. Well, They played a good. DART and neighbors are really pretty good. But you bring back neighbors, hopefully 100%. You bring in Isaiah likely.
Starting point is 00:21:13 You add in Darno Mooney. You subtract Wondell Robinson, which I think is a big part of this as well. So you're taking away a guy that worked very well in the short area of the passing game. But what's the other layer to this? What do they do at 10? Do they really fall in love with Jordan Tyson and take him in 10? And really just revamp this entire offense and just build everything around, you know, Jackson Dart, giving him as many weapons as possible.
Starting point is 00:21:34 But I think if it's just love at 5, and that's the only offensive piece of significance that they add, then I think Scatabu is a touchdown or a bust or an injury waiting to happen to really help your fantasy team. What's going on, Dave, Richard? Not much, dude. Do you think, Dave, that there are running backs that could be affected by anyone other than Jeremiah Love being drafted by their team? What's going to happen to Zach Charbonnet when the Seahawks spend, call it? a top 60 pick, maybe 65 on a running back. Are we going to be in love with him still as one of those draft and wait for types of
Starting point is 00:22:13 players? Are we going to just completely fall out and not be interested in having Charbonnet on our team? Because here comes a new running back to Seattle, whether it's Price or Washington, whoever Coleman and those guys kind of take that place and go even higher than where we were taking Charbonnet before. I think it comes down to one of our. our guys. I think I mentioned this on the last show we did together. Maybe it was expressed. So they're all on the site now. I finished the NFC. So I tried to reference the story I'm referring
Starting point is 00:22:45 to is I did all the sort of my fantasy wants and don't wants for the teams in the NFL draft. And I tried to sort of marry those with our mock drafts. And we have six of our NFL draft analysts doing mock drafts. We've had Josh Edwards on our show. Obviously, you know Mike Renner, you know Ryan Wilson, Pete Prisco's in there, a couple of other guys. And I believe it was Josh who had the Seahawks trading, I'm sorry, not trading, taking to Diderian Price at 32, which would be unprecedented to see first the first two running backs in the NFL draft go from the same team and certainly both of those guys going in the first round. To Dave's point, you know, the Seahawks have four picks in the draft. So they're going to have to be creative in what they do here if they are going to
Starting point is 00:23:29 take one of these guys. Now, I think Dave maybe mentioned this on a previous show or somebody else did. Maybe we had Josh Edwards on talking running. I'm sorry, we had JP Acosta talking running back. That we could see a situation where we don't get a running back on day two or day three. It'd be surprising, but, you know, maybe that's, you know, we get love in round one and we don't see anybody until round four just because this class is a little bit lacking. But I do think a lot of people are somewhat enamored by price.
Starting point is 00:23:56 And I agree with Dave. I think Washington should be the third guy. So does Seattle take their second pick, which is pick 64? and use that on a running back if there's one still there that they like. Or do they trade up to try and get it? Now, you're hearing a lot of stuff about them wanting to trade out of 32, get as many picks as they possibly can, maybe get some more capital in round two and round three,
Starting point is 00:24:15 and then that's where they find somebody. But they are just barren when it comes to draft picks. Yeah, four of them, four total. Just a little peek behind the curtain. Usually it's me, Dave, Heath, and I think Dan just jumped in the last couple of years to do all the player outlooks that you're reading. on the site.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I would like to do Seattle just because there's not a lot of rookies. We have to worry about writing because not a lot to add for those player outlets. And I'm the opposite. Like I always want the teams where there's a ton to like dig into. So Jamie will get the NFC West and I'll end up with probably the NFC East when it's all send out. Can I give you a few names of running backs that are entering a contract year at a Mazer? Yeah, I just want to bring up because we had a text exchange about this yesterday, players that
Starting point is 00:24:59 maybe would hurt from a team adding running backs other than Jeremiah Love. And Chuba Hubbard's name came up. Bejal Tootin's name came up. Chuba Hubbard is right now the starting running back. They have Trevor E.N., they have Jonathan Brooks. Bejel Tootin is dealing with Chris Rodriguez in Jacksonville. But those were a couple names that came up. You know, I think if it's a day three running back in a bad class,
Starting point is 00:25:26 then probably not such a big deal. But if it is Judarian Price or Jonah Coleman, I'm not so sure. You got up on Mike Washington in there. I mean, I get it with Washington because he's got this incredible athletic ability, but he was so unproductive for three years. And then finally, in his fourth year, he had a good year, probably at an older age. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:46 But sure, fine. Put him in there. Few guys. Hard to do it at a younger age in your fourth year. Well, yeah, I just don't know how old he was when he came into college. So that's all I'm saying. I don't know if he was 22 when he did it, 21 when he did it as a scene. you're, anyway, any who, most running backs are not going to have that much of an effect.
Starting point is 00:26:04 But if someone gets taken in round two, early round three, you know, then it could be something. But I think the point of it is that one of those other running backs, the non-love running backs, can go to a team where they might have a big opening next year. And that's why I wanted to tell you about some of the players and think about the teams that these players are on. Breeze Hall is in a contract year. Yeah, Jonathan Taylor and Jumeer Gibbs are too, but I wouldn't really freak out about those guys. I think they're going to stay with their teams.
Starting point is 00:26:34 D'Andre Swift is in a contract year. Pollard, contract year. James Conner's in a contract year. Going down the list, Rashad White just signed with Washington. It was a one-year deal. Pacheco just signed with the Lions. Could the Lions go and draft a running back to pair with Gibbs? Could they get Jonah Coleman to replace David Montgomery?
Starting point is 00:26:51 Would that shock you? Seattle, Charbonnet, is in a contract year. So is Emmanuel Wilson. We already know that Seattle should. do something at running back. I think the thing is, that's really about it. There's a couple of other names that are in there. Like A-chan, I think he's staying with Miami at this point.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Camara, we expect to move on. Both the Vikings running backs are on one-year deals. Those are the teams that I think are kind of like dark horses and we're not thinking about, especially the Vikings that could add a running back and maybe not great in 2026, but 2027 and beyond could be the guy. So to your point, Adam, I do think more of talking about. day two and day three guys in this class and even in dave's scenario you know so the vikings have a need you know and and you could see that as the long term answer because aaron jones is 31 and jordan
Starting point is 00:27:39 mason i think is more of a backup than he is a you know alpha type of guy yeah but are we looking at like a woody marks type of guy a damien pierce type of guy uh you know somebody who's never really going to materialize because they'll find the next big thing i do think it's interesting though because we just talked about Jeremiah Love's landing spots, and there's only one of him and four or five teams that are coveting him. So which of those teams in day two or day three draft a running back, and how much does that impact those backfields and those veterans in place? And so if you're Tennessee, for example, and they take to Derryan Price,
Starting point is 00:28:17 or they take Mike Washington, or they take another guy, are we looking at Tony Pollard as a winner in that situation because he didn't get love? or a loser because they brought in somebody else. And same thing with Arizona. Like, you know, same thing with the Giants. Like, you know, these are teams that could still be looking at running backs per se. Now, you would think if it's the Giants, for example, like, why would they go get somebody else if they miss on love or don't want to take love at 5? You know, it's just adding a player to the backfield as opposed to a star to the backfield.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Now, Price may be a star. Washington may be a star. You know, again, however far down you want to take this, those guys may end up being quality players. if you don't have to be the first running back in the class, as we certainly have seen, to be the best one of the group. So it's going to be interesting, I think, to see while that all shakes out from a day two standpoint,
Starting point is 00:29:06 day three standpoint, for these teams that were sort of putting running backs on. You know, Washington may not have the opportunity to take love, and then they find a way to get it. And I also think, you know, to sort of tie in what Dave said, is that if, let's say it's the Cardinals, does James Connor find his way to Minnesota?
Starting point is 00:29:23 Does James Connor find his way to another team? We're still waiting to see if Alvin Kamara finds his way to another team, you know, because of the Travis E.N, Travis A-Chin, you know, addition in New Orleans, you know, so there's going to be something else that happens if one of these teams end up taking love or taking another running back that some of these veterans that don't have any long-term standing with their current roster to a team that may have a need for one of those players. You know, you look at Green Bay, for example, you know, their depth is terrible right now.
Starting point is 00:29:51 You know, they lose Wilson. It's Chris Brooks. You know, we're still waiting for this Marshawn Lloyd experiment to ever come to fruition. It's probably never going to happen because of all the injuries that he continues to deal with. Jacobs missed two games last year. You know, I mean, he's going to be 28 years old. They may be looking at a running back, and that could be somebody that you're looking with a late-round pick that may have some opportunities, you know. So I think there's a lot of layers to this.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Clearly, love is the first domino to go. And then, you know, whoever Seattle takes, you know, just to tie it back into your question, you know, whoever Seattle takes, we're all going to jump toward, you know, whether it's Price, Washington, you know, again, it's true. It could be, it could be, again, based on their draft capital. You know, a lot of people are saying that's the Ty Simpson trade chip right there. You know, they trade out from 32. Somebody goes in the back end of the first round gets Ty Simpson.
Starting point is 00:30:41 I know the latest ESPN mock, I think it was Peter Schrager, has that happening, you know, trading out with the Cardinals. It's funny that the teams that you're hearing that are interested in Ty Simpson, two of them are in the same division. Does Seattle want to give the Rams their quarterback of the future potentially or the Cardinals, their quarterback now that can end up hurting them? Or they just may say, you know what, we don't like Ty Simpson. You can have them, sure, give us more traffic.
Starting point is 00:31:08 But in any event, I think, you know, if Seattle trades out and still ends up getting whatever running back you think it may be, does that guy just become RB2 or RB2? in the rookie class for fantasy just because of opportunity. I would not. Mike Washington broke out in his age 22 year, his only year at Arkansas. He was decent at New Mexico State in 2024. Remember, he's got the biggest boom busts in terms of per carry by carry. So, you know, I think I did it for eight running backs in this class.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Highest percentage of runs that went for 20 or more yards, was Mike Washington. Highest percentage of runs that went for zero or negative yards was Mike Washington. So he does have that Kenneth Walker
Starting point is 00:31:55 profile in him. I would love to see Judarian Price go to the Panthers. They have the 51st pick. They probably have to trade up. You guys need to go to the Panthers than the Seahawks?
Starting point is 00:32:09 I'd rather go to the Seahawks. Well, I mean, I think Charbonnet is good, you know, maybe Sharbonnet's career isn't over, right? So I just think that the Panthers have been trying to get away from Chuba Hubbard, right? That's why they paid him, right? They paid him.
Starting point is 00:32:30 They almost had to pay him because he had such an unexpectedly good season. Then they benched him for Rico Dowell. I disagree. I think they like Chuba Hubbard and they want to make it work. I mean, and they want to make Jonathan Brooks work too. I don't think they're taking a running back at 51. Yeah, I'm okay. I wouldn't mind it because I,
Starting point is 00:32:47 I don't think they're super invested in Chuba Hubbard, you know, and they drafted Brooks, they signed Dowdell, they gave Dowell. I mean, but think about who they signed out. No, they signed out, and that was nothing. But then they went with Doubtel over Chubber. They paid Chuba after they drafted Brooks after he got hurt. Right. Right. They paid Chuba because he had a really good season.
Starting point is 00:33:08 They might have some buyers. They could move on from him after this year. Yes. They could. And I'm just saying that I think Charbonnet is more of an impediment to, a rookie running back long term, not this year, but long term, than Chuba Hubbard is personally.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Okay, I think that's just my way of saying, I think Zach Chabin is better than Chubbard. Let's talk about the quarterbacks. Win healthy. What's that? Win healthy. We don't know what version of Zach Charbonnet we're going to get or win. Not this year, obviously, but hopefully next year.
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Starting point is 00:34:59 And, you know, how much are we talking here? Do you think these rookie wide receivers can make that kind of an impact or they could really boost an NFL quarterback? I think, and let's just take Jackson Dart as an example. That's somebody who could see their value go up a little bit in fantasy managers. eyes. If they get Tyson or if they get Carnell Tate, that's a good, that's a really good number two option across from Malik Neighbors. And in the event that Malik Neighbors isn't himself, isn't ready to start the season. Okay, at least you know that when you draft Jackson Dart, there is this rookie who's highly touted can do some really good things, playing already on the
Starting point is 00:35:35 field for the Giants. And I think that Tate more so than Tyson is a little more polished and a little more NFL ready. And so that's somebody who could gain value. I don't know how Drake May could gain any more value. We already love them as a top two or top three type of fantasy quarterback. But that's a team that could add potentially two wide receivers between now and the start of the season. AJ Brown being one of them, they could draft a rookie after a round one if they want to or maybe even late round one. That's somebody that I would consider as as a player who could if they spend around one pick on a wide receiver, they're not getting AJ Brown. Depends on the type of receiver that might just be trying to telltale sign right there that the
Starting point is 00:36:16 Jay Brown trade is not happening for them. It depends on the receiver that they get. If they trade up for a receiver, then I would definitely agree with you. And it depends. It just, how much did they like the receiving core last year? They've got to replace Diggs.
Starting point is 00:36:29 I don't think they were necessarily in love with what Diggs did. Otherwise, he'd still be on the team. But it's going to be something like that. Any quarterback, there's going to be at least five receivers, maybe six. There is,
Starting point is 00:36:39 there is one. There is one that I don't know how much it will change his fantasy value. but he would have, at least on paper, the best receiving core in the NFL. The best receiving core of Stafford? If Stafford gets the next Amonra St. Brown and Mackay Lemon, then we are looking at Pooka Nakua, Navante Adams, and Mackay Lemon, as for this year only, because they're definitely moving on from Adams, and it's probably, again, a telltale sign of how they feel about Pooka Nakuwa long term
Starting point is 00:37:09 with everything that's happened off the field. But four of our guys, four of the same, six guys who do mock drafts for us, all have Mackay Lemon to the Rams at 13. And so if they stay in that spot, you can see them trading out because they're going to be aggressive and trade down. If that's the way they go, man, that makes Stafford just absolutely scary. I really want to see. All right, well, I'll put your feet to the fire. If they draft Lemon, are you going to move Stafford up in your rankings? I mean, right now he's, I think, 12 or 13. So, you know, does he move up dramatically?
Starting point is 00:37:46 Probably not. You know, again, we'll see what happens with everybody else. But look, the guy's coming off on MVP season. You know, he's one, it's so funny when you look at other rankings around the industry. And I'm in the same category. I'm sure Dave and Heath are just based on how we draft. Like, we don't have him in the top eight. And, you know, it's, it.
Starting point is 00:38:12 It's close. It's probably close to that right now if he gets, if he gets lemon. He just doesn't run. Right. But he might throw for 5,000 yards and have 40 touchdowns. Crazy upside, certainly compared to some of the other quarterbacks that are in that range.
Starting point is 00:38:25 I do have Stafford at 8, but he's part of that gang of quarterbacks. I just think you can wait, wait, wait, and then take in the back half of your fantasy draft. You don't even have to think about the position. You can just wait to get Matthew Stafford while everybody else spends earlier picks on Allen, Jackson, May, Burrow.
Starting point is 00:38:43 So I think what the Giants do at 5 and 10 is really interesting because this is a team that so far is just giving me big time vibes of we want to be really physical and run the ball. Okay. Like you bring in Harbaugh, you, you maybe, if they draft Jerry, there's a big difference in I think their offensive philosophy. They don't want to be physical and stop to run anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Well, Jamie, like we were talking at the top of the show about offensive philosophy. To me, you could really change your offensive philosophy by either drafting Jeremiah Love or by drafting a wide receiver fifth overall or 10th overall. So I think Jackson Dart, you know, he averaged fewer than 190 passing yards per game. As great as he was, this was not an environment that was good for receivers. I know Wondale like did fine because he had a bunch of catches, but again, he averaged neighbors was hurt. Make sure you put that in context. Of course. He was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was, he was a hundred and ninety passing yards per game. He very often ran the ball near and into the end zone. So it, it wasn't a great environment for receiving production. But it could easily change if the Giants elect to draft a wide receiver with the fifth or the tenth pick. And then to meet jaden Daniels, man. I really want to see Washington take a receiver. His best and pretty much only good option is 30 years old and Terry McLaren. He's, McLaren, to me, is a really good,
Starting point is 00:40:09 wide receiver. He's not a game changer, in my opinion. Maybe he's another great season in him like he did in 2024 when he only had 117 targets and he just basically had a bunch of touchdowns. But that's like, Jaden Daniels, I really want to see them get a wide receiver and I really want to see Malik Willis get a wide receiver to the point where we can be like, okay, well, this guy's, this wide receiver that the dolphins took is good enough to me just once again put Malik Willis in the top 12 discussion, right? I mean, is that on the table, Dave? For Malik Willis? No, I don't think it's going to be, well, top 12 discussion means what exactly?
Starting point is 00:40:47 Well, you know, maybe he's the 12th quarterback off the board. Yeah, we were just talking about Matthew Stafford, right? So. I'm taking Stafford over Willis. No matter what, you know. Pretty much no matter what. Willis would have to get. They'd have to get two wide receivers with the first.
Starting point is 00:41:01 What I was going to say is he would probably have to get, they would probably have to go receiver at 11 because that puts him in the range of still the top five guys as opposed to settling for let's say, and I'm not saying these guys are bad, but settling for Denzel Boston or Omar Cooper, you know, at 30, you know, if those guys are still on the board, unless a trade happens. But I think if you're looking at it from the Dolphins perspective, to help Willis, it's probably, and I would think they would have done this already because of some of the guys that they've added, certainly on cheaper deals. But they would probably have to draft somebody at 11 and then still get like a Joanne Jennings
Starting point is 00:41:30 or Stefan Diggs or somebody that's going to really just boost this receiving court to a level. Like you're looking at it and saying, okay, this is what their plan was. go get a high-priced rookie, a high-end rookie, then go still add somebody that could be an upgrade over the Jalen Tolbert to Malik Washton's that they have right now. And then maybe even in, you know, day two, it's at another tight end because I don't think Greg Dolshus is the answer.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Like there's a lot of ways that they can still work out for Malik Wills. I just don't know if you're taking him. I think you're right. He's still in the top 12 discussion now because of what he could do as a rusher. But nobody should be drafting him as a top 12 quarterback. I think it's more like he's one of the high-end backups you should be looking. But I think he was right there, right around 12, when they had Jalen Wattle.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Sure. So I'm saying they just, when they had Jalen Waddle, they had Greg Dulcich, and they had the Mike Washington and, you know, these very, I'm sorry, Malik Washington, these uninspiring receivers. So is there a wide receiver that the dolphins could take at 11 that you think could replicate what you may be expected from Jalen Waddle? How close could they come to what Jalen Waddle could have done for the dolphins? I mean, look, you know, you're hearing Jordan Tytton.
Starting point is 00:42:36 at 10. And if he's as special as he could be, then that's going to make things a lot better for, you know, Malik Willis. If, you know, lemon slips, you know, everybody has them going at 13 to the Rams. If that Dolphins decide at 11, they want to take Malikailam, excuse me, you know, then that's something that's going to clearly put up the antennas of, okay, this could be, you know, a special type of talent that's going to get a lot of opportunities, you know. Is Casey Concepciona type of guy?
Starting point is 00:43:02 I don't know. He wouldn't be for me. You know, I've seen some mocks where you see Denzel Boston. at 30, that's not the type of guy for me, even though he might be one of the more ready wide receivers to step in and play right away and certainly is physical enough to, you know, go make plays. I think it's got to be, you know, Tate slipping, Lemon being there and them going that route. Tyson being that type of guy. One of the high-end guys that, you know, can step in and be not an alpha from day one, but certainly the opportunity to be an alpha because of all the targets he's going to get.
Starting point is 00:43:35 You know, basically what you got from Teterola McMillan. You know, and if he's that type of receiver, you know, could be a thousand-yard guy, can be a, you know, seven, eight touchdown type of guy, then that's going to make things a lot better for Malik Willis because of what he should be able to do with his leg. But I don't think that's changing how people are drafting Willis to the point where you're taking him over the Staffords or the Purdy's or, you know, Caleb Williams, Dak Prescott, you know, all these guys that are going to be in that, I forget what Dave said,
Starting point is 00:44:00 that category of guys that are going to be in that, you know, nine through. Low end top 12. Like there's a difference between the, low end top 12 and then what Adam said 12-ish. Yeah. Okay. So I would think Willis would be in that conversation. Like I had a hard time earlier this offseason between Willis and Kyler Murray.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Who would I rather have? And then once Waddle got traded, it was a slam dunk that Kyler was the quarterback that I'd rather have. I don't know if one or maybe even two rookie wide receivers in Miami is going to change that opinion. I don't think the dolphins want to become a past crazy team. I think they want to run it. I think they want to play at a slow.
Starting point is 00:44:35 pace. I think they want to lean on Willis, just getting the ball out fast and running and not having to throw to the sidelines and stuff like that. And to that end, I do think Concepcion is a fit for what they want to do. And he should be available to them at 30 if they want to go and get a wide receiver. Last quarterback, I just want to briefly. I want to get to the wide receivers that could be affected by the NFL draft. But let me just talk about one more quarterback. The guy who had the third best yards per attempt on past attempts of 10 to 20 air yards last year, which to me is Tate's specialty.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Maybe, I don't know if you disagree, but 10 to 20 air yards, I think he's really good in that area of the field. So, number one in yards per temp was Jared Gough. Number two was Drake May. Number three was Tyler Shuck. And then it was Mack Jones, Matthew Stafford, Patrick Mahomes. So Tyler Shuck really excelled. He had a 67% completion rate on past attempts of 10 to 20 yards, really excelled in
Starting point is 00:45:28 this area of the field. And maybe Carnell Tate would be a good fit for him. Additionally, the Panthers just, or the Saints, rather, they just need more talent at the receiver position, they had the lowest yak per completion in the NFL. That's not necessarily just a wide receivers, but the Eagles and the Saints, lowest yak per completion in the NFL. Tate's not a yak guy, I'll say that. Well, he might be.
Starting point is 00:45:51 He just didn't show it off in college. Fair. Why do you hate Devon Veilet so much? Yeah, Vailet was good, but the Saints could certainly use it. Was he a yak guy? I don't think he was a yak guy. I don't know. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I just the way you crap on Mason Tipton. It's just so awful. They could use it. E.T.N. will help hopefully with that, too. Or A. Chan. Sorry, Travis A. Chan. All right.
Starting point is 00:46:13 Wide receivers who could lose or maybe gain by what happens in the NFL draft. So, yeah, let's say the Giants take someone at five or ten. Jamie, how's that going to affect how you feel about neighbors and Mooney. I mean, Moody's irrelevant in that point. You know, they're using Mooney as, I think it was a good signing. You know, and to you. your question or your point about, you know, offensive philosophy, you know, they bring in what I think is a solid veteran that, you know, maybe has more to offer than what we've seen
Starting point is 00:46:43 from Mooney, even his career so far, but certainly played well enough two years ago in Atlanta that, you know, warranted some fantasy discussion about could he be a number three fantasy receiver last year. But adding Isaiah likely, you know, getting another playmaking option in the passing game and one of the better playmaking tight ends that was available, even when you factoring guys in the draft. So they're putting weapons around. Jackson Dart. But I think if they spend that early capital on a wide receiver, it is telling you that they want
Starting point is 00:47:09 to build around Jackson Dart, that they want to be a little bit more of a pass happy, not necessarily over the top, past happy from, let's go crazy, be top five in past attempts. But trusting what Jackson Dart can do and maybe the potential of what he could become. But I think it is an indictment on
Starting point is 00:47:25 neighbors. It's an indictment on his health, probably. You know, the fact that he may not be ready to go at the start of the season. I don't think Harbaugh is coming to the Giants to have a long rebuild. He's coming there because he thinks this is a Rothschist ready to compete. And so, you know, he's in the Super Bowl business. He's not in the, you know, I'm going to do this over a five to 10 year period because I think just where he is and what his resume suggests. So my guess is that they want to make sure that neighbors is right. They still want to add another
Starting point is 00:47:55 piece. But I think if they do draft, certainly a five, but at 10, you know, if it's, you know, the second or third receiver off the board, if they're that much in love with Tyson, after the, you know, GM meeting with the receiver at his private workout and having dinner with him, you know, they're interested. So I'd be a little bit more concerned about neighbors. He would probably fall to definitely round three at this point. He's heading that direction already because of the health situation. And this would probably put him in there firmly in that spot. For what it's worth, just going back, I think the last eight years or so, the wide receivers that really lose value when they're paired with a really good rookie wide receiver.
Starting point is 00:48:33 And I don't mean, I mean one that ended up being really good. Usually like Corey Davis's of the world with A.J. Brown. It's, you know, it's not Justin Jefferson who got Jordan Addison. Addison had a good rookie year, you know? So let's see, like Chase Claypool didn't really affect the targets of Deonti. Giantee Johnson had 144 targets in Chase Claypool's rookie season. And Claypool wasn't bad. you know, Amari Cooper, the first four games of the season with C.D. Lamb, I think that was the year
Starting point is 00:49:06 DAC got hurt in week five. But the first four years of the season, the first four games of the season, Cooper had 51 targets, Lamb had 32. T. Higgins actually, like T. Higgins really hurt Tyler Boyd in Higgins' rookie season. But T. Higgins actually did better in his second season, which was Jamar Chase's rookie season, because Joe Burrow had by far his best year. So it's like Elijah Moore got killed by Garrett Wilson. It's those kind of guys that get hurt. Although, you know, Nico Collins, his splits with Tank Dell were not as good in Tankdale's rookie year as they were without Tank Dell.
Starting point is 00:49:42 He had a lot more targets per game without Tank Dell. The Cardinals drafted Marvin Harrison fourth overall in 2024, and Tray McBride was the number two tight end with 147 targets that year. I think you could look at though like Christian Kirk wasn't as good with Brian Thomas, that kind of stuff. So my general takeaway is that great players are not really affected by it. Average one. He was a rough season with Puka, but he was injured.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Yeah, that one, that one is the top of the more. What about Seattle for Smith and Jigba's rookie year? So that was like, first, let's talk about Seattle with D.K. Metcalf's rookie year, which wasn't bad, but Tyler Lockett actually had one of his best seasons. He was actually better than the year before. JSN, I don't know if I really counted JSM. Like, J.S.N didn't really do that much his rookie year. But if I recall, it just wasn't that good of a year offensively for them. Although maybe that was Gino's good year.
Starting point is 00:50:36 You can look that up for me. I don't know. Great wide receivers don't seem to be too affected. Cooper Cup, Jamie, I'm glad he brought that one up. He was hurt. He missed the first three or four games. Puka and Kua went nuts. Cooper Cup had one game where he played like 25% of the snaps.
Starting point is 00:50:52 If you took that one game away, looked at his 11 healthy games. He was on pace for 145 targets. which is a lot, but I have a feeling it's not nearly as much as it was the year before. No, the year before he's a Triple Crown winner. Okay, then there you go. That was the Super Bowl year? Yeah. Yeah, so Cooper Cup, I would say, was hurt by Pooka and Kua.
Starting point is 00:51:12 Not to the point where he wasn't fantasy relevant, but he was hurt by it. And he didn't really play that while that year. Go back to the thought of Stafford getting another weapon. If Lemon is the guy for the Rams, does that take Pook out of the conversation as the number one overall wide receiver. I think it has to, but I don't know if it takes them out of the first round. No, no, no, no. But I think it takes them out of the first guy.
Starting point is 00:51:35 Yeah, I mean, when you're looking at it, again, Seattle's got four draft picks. I don't think they're taking a wide receiver after, you know, keeping Cooper Cup and bringing back Rashid Shaheed. So JSN should be fine. I don't think Cincinnati's going to invest heavily in their receiver spot, you know, to get maybe an upgraded third receiver if that's something they want to do. So I would guess that Chase is fine. And so those guys, you know, again, looking at different rank lists, they're all sort of mixed up at the top.
Starting point is 00:52:01 You know, typically you see JSN third right now. I would probably put Puka third at best if that happens. Yeah, that's a fun one. I think you could downgrade Puka a little bit, but what about Adams? Yeah, that's the one I would downgrade. Well, Adams is, you know, he was so touchdown dependent last year. It's hard to say that this is not. And then you get the story that they talk to him about maybe trading him, you know,
Starting point is 00:52:29 and then ultimately deciding to bring him back. So, you know, they have to worry about winning now because they're very much in the Super Bowl conversation, but also they worry about replacing some older players, which is why you're hearing Ty Simpson to the Rams as well. So, you know, you're looking at do they have the opportunity to add a significant piece that still helps them? Obviously, if they take McCoy Lemon, this offense is, you know, in the conversation to be the best in the league. They just had a very successful season last year without a guy like Lemon. So you see them all over the place. Again, looking at, I just because I read it this morning, you know, Schrager's mock draft on ESPN has the Rams trading out of 13 and drafting Sadiq.
Starting point is 00:53:09 And that, to me, is crazy because their tight end room is so crowded, you know, by bringing back Higbee and Parkinson is still there. And, you know, you have some hope for Terrence Ferguson in long term like that would crush that. But, you know, the Rams know how to be creative. We never thought that this would be a team that would go out and add a Devante Adams and they made it work. And adding a guy like Mackay Lemon, I'm sure they'll make it work. You know, it would be at the expense of probably both Puka and Adams, but I would think
Starting point is 00:53:38 it impacts Adams more than anything. What do you guys think? I gave my thoughts on this on FFT Express. Chris Olave and Terry McLorn, those two teams have back-to-back picks in the top bait and they obviously are in play for wide receivers. Maybe they both take a wide receiver, the Saints and the commanders, but which wide receiver would you be more concerned about
Starting point is 00:54:00 if a rookie wide receiver is added to Chris Olavé or Terry McLaurin's room, Dave? I think it depends on which receiver they get. I think Washington would be much more intrigued with Tate or Tyson because they can play along the perimeter. where McLaren plays. So same sort of type of receiver, not necessarily a slot guy that would change the target volume for McLaren.
Starting point is 00:54:28 And I don't think anybody's super hyped about McLaren anyway. So I think we could see him fall. Like he's maybe a number two wide receiver right now. He'd be a number three. If they go and they get Tate or Lemon with the seventh overall pick. I do think that if it's if it's lemon, I'm sorry, Tyson with the pick. If they get lemon in New Orleans or say they trade back a lot in round one,
Starting point is 00:54:51 they get somebody like Cooper or Conception on whatever, I don't think that hurts Alave too much. I think Alave will still get a good dose of targets. But otherwise it would be the same thing. His target volume would go down. Tate would be playing opposite. Tyson would be playing opposite. And Olave would be hurt target wise.
Starting point is 00:55:08 And remember last year, 9.8 targets per game was super high for Chris Alave. The year before that, he was at 5.5. Now, new coach, new, new offensive scheme. When Shuck came in, he really did turn it up a little bit more. Maybe those are all factors. And maybe that's what makes him a little bit more of a one-year wonder than a guy that we can say, okay, this is who he is from now on.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I would almost think his target share was going to fall under eight anyway. But if they go and they get Tater Tyson, it could be closer to seven, which is still good, but not where we would have him. He wouldn't go down, obviously, in our rankings. I just think that one's so fun because I've always personally compared Chris Olavé to Terry McLaurin as football players. You know, they're very talented guys. They've been in their careers higher ADOT guys with not a lot of yak. Although the ADOTs come down a little bit for OLAV the last couple of seasons,
Starting point is 00:56:06 but he's still not a great yak guy. And they've always had problems scoring touchdowns. And they've never really had never as a strong word. They've rarely had good quarterback. I think actually it's not so true with Olaabe, but quarterback play hasn't been great for them, certainly. And then McLaren goes out and has this huge touchdown season where you look at his numbers, go, wow,
Starting point is 00:56:24 the only thing that changed was the touchdowns. And then Olave comes out and basically does the same thing except the two things that changed for him were targets and touchdowns. Right. Yep. And, you know, Alave feels to me like a regression candidate, and if they add another receiver, I don't know that it's great, but also there's the difference is like you could still see the best football still to come for Olave. He's in his prime.
Starting point is 00:56:49 You can't really see that for McLaurin, right? I think you nailed it there. The thing that I go back to is Olave two years ago was getting outplayed by Rishit Shaheed. Yeah. And there's nobody, I think, on the current roster that's even as good as Shahid. So adding another receiver, especially a high-end rookie receiver, I'd be much more concerned about Chris Olava than it would Terry McClure.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Really? Because look, Olave has never had a player on his team, second receiver on his team, have more than 102 targets. That was Joanne Johnson last year. But McLaurin, in his seven seasons, the number two target getter for Washington has had 58 targets, 110 targets. There are actually two guys who had 110, and McLaren at 134 in 2020.
Starting point is 00:57:38 62, 92, 91, 91. So in six of his seven, not accounting last year, last year he didn't leave the team in targets, he played 10 games. In five of his first six seasons, the number two target getter didn't have more than 92 targets. This is another guy who's had basically no target competition. And last year they brought in a debo and he got hurt.
Starting point is 00:57:58 It's the starting point for both guys. Olave is around the borderline round two pick. Oh, you know, I mean, I get that. But just in terms of downgrading them from where they are. I'm never saying that McLaurin's going to be ahead of Oliva or anything, but no, no, no, but I, I mean, the downgrade from McClorin would not be as steep as it would be for a lobby. Okay. And then, that's right. I guess I'm just saying that based on the research I've done, you know, great wide receivers aren't really that affected by great rookie wide receivers, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:29 on their team. Yeah, but a lot of the examples you gave, though, were not first round top 10 wide receivers joining standout wide receivers as well. Like you're talking about Elijah Moore and, you know, like the Neal Collins one is interesting because of where he was, but Tankdale was not that type of draft pick. I know, but the other part of that is that even the guys who get drafted in the top 10, sometimes they're not nearly as good as rookies as we expect them to be. No, I get that, you know, and the one example that you said, which stood out to me
Starting point is 00:58:59 because of I think what we're talking about here is the Dallas one, and we didn't get a full sample size of that Crescott. You know, so C.D. Lamb joining Amari Cooper. Amari Cooper is very established and very good and stolen is prime and productive. And C.D. Lamb was a first round pick. And so that's the type of situation we're looking at here. Like, Crystal Lave is basically Amari Cooper. Terry McClorn is basically Amari Cooper. Resumas are different, but you get the point.
Starting point is 00:59:21 So, you know, you're adding a Tate or a Tyson or a Lemon or, you know, whoever, you know, to this group. And then we're, or to that, you know, team. And then we're looking at it like, okay, those are two very, very quality standout talents, not necessarily one that was a fourth round pick that just happened to have a good year. All right. Let me get one more example then. Let's talk about Jalen Waddle's rookie season. I don't know if there's a... He had no competition. Tyree Kill was after Dealin Wals were here.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Yeah, but I thought there was someone on the team that had a downgrade and target. Okay. If not, then I apologize, but... I'll double check. Better and pass catchers. Quarterbacks. I've got so many notes here. I got it. Go on.
Starting point is 01:00:09 All right. No, I just wanted to see that Dolphins team in 2021 and who they have. So, Devante Parker. That's it.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Like a sticky. Devante Parker average 7.3 targets per game. And that may not. So I guess if the conversation is targets and what the targets end up being,
Starting point is 01:00:29 there's probably going to be a downgrade. If we're talking about where the player is and who the player is getting competition from. I think you said this, Dave, like, Olavi's probably going to have fewer targets regardless. Yes. He had 156 last year.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Sure. Their run game got improved. They're going to add somebody somewhere along the way. It just makes sense that he's not going to have. He averaged 9.1 with Shuck, which was actually lower than what he averaged with Rattler. So I can't help but think that that number goes down, period. story. Do you want to talk about any tight ends or should we just read some emails here?
Starting point is 01:01:13 I mean, again, I think any of these tight end groups that get competition, the guy in place is, you know, sliding scale, clearly. You know, Sadiq goes to Baltimore. That's not great for Mark Andrews. Sadiq goes to the Panthers, which is where I would like to see him go. Then we're looking at, you know, okay, Jatavion Sanders coming off a broken leg. that's not going to be a significant fantasy impact. Sadiq's in a great spot. I think it was more concerned about wide receivers. I mentioned Isaiah likely and Jawan Johnson earlier in the show,
Starting point is 01:01:41 or if the Giants and Saints take... Yeah, I mean, look, we're hopeful always. This is, you know, great stat by you many, many years ago, about we're looking for who's first or second on the team and targets and how that leads to fantasy success. If the Giants go defense with their first two picks or Jeremiah Love with one of their first two first round picks, then neighbors and likely should be the top two target getters there.
Starting point is 01:02:06 So you don't want to see a receiver go to the Giants. Joanne Johnson, you mentioned that's a sneaky late round pick because if they don't go wide receiver earlier, don't get someone of significance, then he's probably second on the team targets. So it's those type of scenarios that you want to see, clearly. Are you interested in the tight ends that are entering a contract year? Not really.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Fine. Should I be? I don't know, because, their teams might be interested in drafting a tight end, and there's more than just Sadiq in this draft class. I mean, there's two in the top 12 in Fantasy. That's Kyle Pitts and Travis Kelsey, you know, so. Three, Leporta.
Starting point is 01:02:44 He's in a contract here? He's in a contract here. Oh, wow. He's in his fourth year already. What about that? That's how it works. Evan Engram, Dallas Goddard, although I think Goder might get some sort of a rework deal.
Starting point is 01:02:57 All right, let's get some emails here. Fantasy football. He just signed a one year deal. Yeah, he just signed a one year. Oh, so yeah, never mind. My bad. My bad. Okay.
Starting point is 01:03:07 From Fudd. Why does Kenyon, Sadiq, get so much buzz at Tidea, about Tideon one in this draft when he barely had any volume or production at Oregon? His profile and what he is projected to do. I think Coles-a-Lub-Ly. Yeah, I think I liked Loveland more than Sadeek. Oh, I agree. I'm just saying, like, you know, a guy that didn't have a lot of stats in college. True, true, true, true.
Starting point is 01:03:33 Freak athlete. Um, definitely has potential to get better, like as good as he was and good as being used relatively speaking here, but he could get better. Teams fall in love with players like this all the time. And let's just say he goes to the Rams. It would make sense for that because he's, he's got such a size speed advantage over any defender in the league. And I think he's pretty quick too. And that'll help him, all those things are just going to help him get open, catch passes, make plays, etc. Yeah, Sadiq, though, I mean, I get the.
Starting point is 01:04:04 concerns. He averaged 40 yards per game last year, whereas Colson Loveland average 58 yards per game in his junior season. He only played 10 games. It's a very low production for a guy who's going to be the number one tight end. But there's also a difference between the top 10 overall pick and a top 20 overall pick.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Yeah. Right. Honestly, though, you just don't see tight ends with as little production as Kenyon Sadiq that have ended up being good. other than Kittle, really. And I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago. Kittle and Darren Waller are basically the only tight ends.
Starting point is 01:04:40 We've had less production than Sadiq. And Waller was a receiver. Right. And Waller was a receiver. Waller came out as a wideout and then converted. My biggest problem with Sadiq is that he, I don't think he plays as tough as you'd expect him to for a guy as big as he is. Didn't have a lot of plays where he got yardage after first contact.
Starting point is 01:04:58 He went down on first contact a lot. That's something that both Loveland and Tyler Warren have on him by comparison. Josh Edwards, though, did mention that Oregon might have the number one tight end in the 2020s. Right. The other guy that's got. So, so Sadiq did have to contend with that. Okay, that would be Jamari Johnson. Let's, next question is from Scott G.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Subject, Mendoza value for contending team. Okay, I'm a back-to-back champion in my dynasty league. I've got Gibbs and Bijon and Chase, but I have a weird quarterback room of Purdy, Kyler, Jacobi Brissette, Gino Smith in a Superflex tight-end premium league. I can trade for the 101 this year. I would give up my 110 and a 2027 first,
Starting point is 01:05:45 which I expect to be a pretty low pick next year. So he's thinking a 110 this year and a back end of the first round next year for 101 this year. Should I pull the trigger and get Mendoza or hold off? And he's only asked about getting Mendoza, by the way.
Starting point is 01:06:01 He's not considering love. Yeah, that's it. the first mistake. It's Purdy. Who else is he? Purdy, Kyle, Prisett, and Gino.
Starting point is 01:06:10 10 team league, by the way. Superfund. Can he, can he potentially trade 110 and something else of his first round
Starting point is 01:06:18 pick for 102? Right. Or like, get 101 and then get a better quarterback than Mendoza for love. I don't,
Starting point is 01:06:31 I don't think trading for one-on- Who's other running backs? Gibbs and B. John, he's great. And he's Jamar Chase. I don't think, I don't think trading that up for 101 and taking Mendoza is the right move. I feel like you have more capital.
Starting point is 01:06:44 You can get a better quarterback out of the 101 pick than Mendoza. And the other part of this is if you hold on to your first next year, because you're probably still going to contend and maybe win the league again this year with what you have because if Purdy and Kyler do what they do and Gino is your third guy, like you're probably fine there. I think you get, but if, if you want to. the league at 10, or you won the league and end up with pick 10, whether that was through trade or it's a 10 man league. And your 10 next year, the QB class is so loaded that you may get, not Mendoza, but still a really good quarterback at 10 in a super flex league next year.
Starting point is 01:07:22 I would probably avoid that deal. But at the same time, like the draft capital you're giving up, 10 this year sucks. and the door is open for you to have Bijon Gibbs, Chase and Jeremiah Love all on the same team. I don't know that I, yeah. I kind of love that. And it's a 10 team league. So finding that second quarterback,
Starting point is 01:07:47 he really just is a 10 team league. He's got, but he's got Purdy and Kyler and Brissette. He's probably okay this year. He's okay with Purdy. He's probably okay this year. I'm thinking about that next move about getting that second quarterback. And I think he's thinking about that too because he's actually considering Mendoza over Jeremiah Love, which I couldn't do that unless I was just desperate for a quarterback.
Starting point is 01:08:11 If you could make the deal and you're taking love, I would do it. I think I would too and just table the quarterback decision until next year. I got to say something, though, like 10-team league, right? I would not be surprised if the 10th pick of a Superflex draft next year is a better fantasy quarterback than Fernando Mendoza. It's possible. But he's trading that, though, to get the one. I know. Two things.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Number one, we have talked up quarterback classes before. We've talked up these quarterback classes before and been burned by it. So I don't necessarily want to like say, oh, yeah, next year's loaded. I think over the next two or three years, there will be a nice influx of quarterbacks into the league. Full stop. Don't want to go any further than that. If it does happen to be a loaded quarterback class, then you're right. There should be somebody who would be at least comparable to Mendoza at 10.
Starting point is 01:08:59 I would make this trade and get love and then maybe not one of those other three veterans that you've got, but maybe somebody else on your team, see if you can turn one of them, like whoever your third best running back is now, turn that guy into a quarterback who's not old and not at the end of the line.
Starting point is 01:09:16 But you're not going to get that, don't is super flexly. That's a problem. You might, if a team's got, there's got to be a team in this 10 team league that's got three good quarterbacks and maybe one good running back.
Starting point is 01:09:27 I think it's, but just thinking about next year and what you can get at number 10, I think it might come down to how good the running back class is. The wide receivers, you know, we usually get four or five-quivor- Yeah, we're going to be going nuts over Jeremiah. Go back three years ago now,
Starting point is 01:09:41 and the quarterback class of 24, which was Caleb, Daniels, May, McCarthy. Penix. Pennix. Knicks. Knicks, yeah. Right. So I wonder, and I can't answer this. I wasn't in a 10-10.
Starting point is 01:09:59 team Superflex Dynasty League. Did any of those quarterbacks make it to 10? I would imagine some of them did. Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Nick, Knicks for sure was not a top 10 pick. Pennix was a second round pick, as I recall. Pennix was for sure not a top 10 pick.
Starting point is 01:10:15 The top three were actually, it was, it was Caleb Daniels, whoever you like first. Usually most people were taking Daniels. It was Daniels, Williams, and then I think May was in that group. but McCarthy third. Really? Okay. All right. Okay, let's see. We got a question, keeper question from Baxter.
Starting point is 01:10:36 Keepers, he's got a one QB, two flex PPR league with three keepers. We can keep them indefinitely with each year costing a round earlier. Am I crazy for wanting to keep three Chicago Bears? So he's got
Starting point is 01:10:52 Loveland in round eight, Burden in round 12, and Menangai in round 11. Are there any players that you would take over those guys at those values? Loveland in round 8, Burden in round 12,
Starting point is 01:11:03 Benangai round 11. Tyler Shuck in round 12 had to say no to that. Right. Mekonki in round five. Sorry. I would probably take him over Monongai. Devonte Smith in round three if Brown has traded.
Starting point is 01:11:18 I couldn't he be in round five. Why? You have to make the decision. He can still, he can wait until after Brown is traded. If Brown is gone, then I'm taking Smith in round three and the two bears. But there's also Pearsall in round six. I don't think you want to do that.
Starting point is 01:11:32 No, no. It would come down to Smith in three versus McConkey and five. Yep. And finally, David has a new definition of breakouts and sleepers. He said, to me, both breakouts and sleepers could win you weeks or leagues, because I say breakouts when you league, sleepers when you weeks. But the distinguishing markers at a breakout sets a new level of performance that becomes the standard for the rest of their career.
Starting point is 01:11:57 It takes a few years to solidify someone as a breakout, and they can come from any round in the draft. So to modify Adam's mantra, both win you leagues, but breakouts create dynasties. And then he said that diehard is maybe a Christmas movie, but it is certainly a Harry Potter movie. The main character spends all his time trying to avoid or find Alan Rickman in a tower.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Good way to end today's show. Well, I can't wait. The next time we talk to you, we're going to have round one of the NFL draft. I'm just really excited. I've gotten more excited about this class. Running back kind of stinks, but the wide receivers, I think, are exciting. And, you know, I think it's going to be really good for fantasy. And you know what?
Starting point is 01:12:45 We have not talked at all about the linemen. So there's some big-time linemen that are going to go in the top 10, top 12, that might be able to help. Will Campbell, certainly. Will Campbell stunk after he came back from his injury, but he certainly helped the Patriots last year. A lot of concern about your guy with the back injury. No, apparently not.
Starting point is 01:13:01 I mean, unless there's something new. Francis Maui Noah, I don't know, the report was that the herniated disc in his back is not really a big deal. I hope not. I love him. Kind of want him to play guard, but I love Maui Noah. Kind of hope the Giants take him at 10 and move him to guard.
Starting point is 01:13:17 All right. Let's go. We'll talk to you Thursday night after the first round of the draft ends. You think, are we going to, are we going to go like at a 30 minute mark, 15 minute mark, or if it's like 10, 12, we're starting? Oh, no. We'll start like when we're ready, basically, hopefully, quickly after. Just remember when the draft ends, FFT begins.
Starting point is 01:13:42 I think it's going to end it. It usually ends at midnight, right? I feel like it's going to end at 11 p.m. Eastern. Because they shorten the time of the picks. That's just my guess, but I have no idea. Anyway. There again. We can keep talking.
Starting point is 01:13:55 Maybe we'll just keep talking until the draft starts. We'll talk you tomorrow. On podcasts. Instacart knows that some people go bananas about getting the perfect, well, banana. Some want them green, some want them ripe, some want them ready right when they hit their doorstep. But with Instacart's preference picker, available at most retailers, you can choose to get your groceries just the way you like. That means perfectly ripe bananas, deli meat sliced just the way you want, and avocados that aren't still. hard as a puck in the third period.
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