Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire, 2025 Top Three, "Who Has More?" (12/31 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: December 31, 2024

It's Week 18 so of course we have to start with some Fantasy celebrations! We hope you're celebrating too. Then we'll talk about which teams might be sitting their starters this week (8:40). Can you t...rust your Steelers, Packers, Texans, etc.? ... News and notes (16:00) and our top waiver wire quarterbacks (18:50), running backs (28:00), wide receivers (35:40), tight ends (46:00), DSTs (48:30) and Kickers. We discuss Josh Dobbs, the Colts QBs, Ray Davis, Khalil Herbert, the Cardinals RBs, Chris Olave, Olamide Zaccheaus, Chig Okonkwo and more ... Who are our early top 3 players for 2025 (50:00)? Is Saquon Barkley an easy call? Which WRs could sneak into the discussion? And we finish with a game called "Who Has More?" (57:30) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Please VOTE for Fantasy Football Today in the Sports Podcast Awards in the "Best Fantasy Betting and Gaming Podcast" category: https://bit.ly/3Zxw3uS Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Shop our store: shop.cbssports.com/fantasy  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 From the director of The Greatest Showman comes the most original musical ever. I want to prove I can make it. Prove to who? Everyone. So, the story starts. Better Man. Now playing in select theaters. This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports.
Starting point is 00:00:18 What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is gonna go the distance. Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is gonna go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie and Heath. Hey, welcome everybody.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Welcome to week 18 and congratulations to all you fantasy champions. This is Fantasy Football Today presented by FEDMGM, the sports book born in Vegas. And I was just thinking about one of the players that I feel like as a show, we were super high on during the draft season. And I really think it was T Higgins.
Starting point is 00:00:59 We talked about it a lot. Amazing value. He was like a round five pick. And I hope he carried you all to victory. And I know we had a pretty we had a pretty good year here on FFT. Anyway, I am on I'm not going to I am on cloud 10 today. I've skipped cloud nine. I've gone right to cloud 10.
Starting point is 00:01:21 I have beamed up to cloud 10. I just got to tell you guys, I had the best fantasy year of my life, so I have fired up. Let's go. Yeah, this was the best year because I didn't even realize. I mean, I knew I had a chance, but not until last night when
Starting point is 00:01:36 Goffin gives went off, I won the 14 team Flex League. So at all 12 leagues I won four of them, and yeah, I'm pretty fired up and and there's one other that I'd like to talk about, but how did how did you guys do? Oh, 12 leagues. I won four of them. And yeah, I'm pretty fired up. And there's one other that I'd like to talk about. But how did you guys do? I go ahead, Dave.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Made the finals in four of my leagues, won three of the four. Let me tell you about the one that I didn't win, though. Started the Colts DST zero on my bench. Eagles DST, zero. On my bench, Eagles DST, 21 points. I lost by 20 to producer Jack. So if anybody out there complaining about the Colts DST and where I had them ranked, which was number one, and you're complaining about it to me,
Starting point is 00:02:19 I'm with you all the way. Huge whiff by me. Wish I had had the Eagles in my lineup. Otherwise it would have been four for four. Jamie, how'd you do? I won seven of eight. Seven of eight finals. Wow.
Starting point is 00:02:35 That's a stand. Yeah, it was 29 redraft league, so not the best percentage, but happy. I won our big office league league which is I think 22 teams now. So I was happy about that never won that one been in that one a long time. Yeah. And Gosh. Won a dynasty league I joined last year so I talked to the commissioner saw him over the weekend and another guy in the league and he said oh you're in the finals and you're
Starting point is 00:03:04 in finals huh and I said yeah and so then they they turned and he said, oh, you're in the finals, huh? And I said, yeah. And so then they turned to each other and go, I told you not to let him in. I was happy with that moment. And then all three father-son leagues we won. That was fun. Wow, all right. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:03:19 So is that really you that won those father-son leagues or are we just gonna give it up? The six-year-old one, which is non PPR, Jonathan tailored our way through the final, father-son leagues or are we just going to give the six-year-old one which is non PPR we we we Jonathan tailored our way through the final you know three games um yes he carried us and non PPR was huge uh one with that one in the game where Jalen Hurst got hurt uh had to replace Jalen Hurst with Bo Nix so started the week carried us to a victory. And the other two, both of them, Tray McBride, huge games. They both drafted Tray McBride. On my recommendation, but they drafted him.
Starting point is 00:03:56 And my 10 year old Eli, ridiculous draft. 14 team league just loaded. And my 12 year old Ronan he he drafted and did most of it by himself that's I'd also like to give a shout out to my son Ryan who finished 42nd in the Scott Fish Bowl that's amazing 42nd out of 4,000 whatever teams that's in the fish bowl pretty proud of the kid he was he was pretty disappointed remember in the fish bowl. Pretty proud of the kid. He was pretty disappointed. Remember in the fish bowl, the final, there's 50 teams and only one team can win. It's whoever scores
Starting point is 00:04:31 the most points plus has the highest average going in. And he did better. I'm looking at the rankings now or the results I should say. I don't know how many analysts were ahead of him. A couple were, but he was ahead of some pretty heavy hitters that also made the finals. So proud of the kid. Yeah, that's awesome. Um, and you know what? I, there were on Sunday night, I thought I was going to go two and two. I'd like to tell a little story here is going up against Heath in the podcast league. Heath, who changed his logo, his avatar in the podcast league
Starting point is 00:05:06 to the final score of him whooping me in the championship two or three years ago. And you know what? I'm just gonna tell you what happened. I'm gonna put up a screenshot and I wrote a little song about it. All right, so Dave, did you bring your accordion by any chance?
Starting point is 00:05:24 Yes, of course. I always have my accordion. All right. Well, here we go. Sing along if you'd like. When you need 33 to win in fantasy, that's Brock Purdy. When you're losing to Heath in the old podcast league,'s Brock Purdy hits Debo, Garendo and Pierce. Oh, yes, I know this song's nerdy. Interceptions almost cost me, but Heath is toast. That's Brock Purdy.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Yes, I beat you, Heath. You thought you had it, but I Brock purdyed you and I win. All right, that's it. Let's get on to the show. Why you sacrificed Brock Purdy's elbow to win the game. Yeah, I wasn't too disappointed when he left at the end. I feel bad saying that. And I gotta give a big shout out to the Lipkins
Starting point is 00:06:20 on team like a good neighbors who rode Malik neighbors and his 36.1 fantasy points to a win the FFT open. So the Lipkins win it. I think brothers, I'm not sure, like a good neighbors. And that is out of the Stamful division. They are the FFT Open champions. That is freaking awesome. They had Jaden Daniels, Saquon Barkley, Jamir Gibbs, Malik neighbors, Adam Thielen, John O'Smith,
Starting point is 00:06:43 and they survived a 1.5 point dud from Terry McLaurin to win the FFT Open. Very cool stuff. All right, thank you for indulging and let's get on with the show. We're gonna talk waiver wire for week 18. We're gonna play Who Has More. Yeah, at the end.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Yeah, baby. And- Jamie, didn't you think we were done with that game? I was hoping, but yeah, sure. Shannon with the end. Yeah, baby. And Jamie, didn't you think we were done with that game? I was hoping, but yes, sir. Shannon with the wind. Yeah, we got some some winners here in in the chat and we're displaying your comments. But all right. And we're going to really look at big, big story today is who's playing, right? Who's playing in week 18? So the bills, Josh Allen is going to start and the Bills starters are probably not going to be in very long, especially Josh Allen. So don't start him.
Starting point is 00:07:29 They did the same thing in 2019, by the way. Every playoff spot has been determined, not necessarily the seed, but every playoff spot has been determined except for one. It's either going to be the Broncos if they beat the Chiefs, the Dolphins if they beat the Jets and the Broncos lose, or the Bengals if they win against the Steelers on the road and the Broncos and Dolphins lose. That's the only spot up for grabs, but seeds are up for grabs. The big game of course is Sunday night Detroit hosting Minnesota for the one seed and the NFC North title. So don't start Josh Allen. The Steelers could be eliminated from the division if the Ravens win earlier in the day on Saturday,
Starting point is 00:08:14 which they almost certainly will do against Cleveland. So the Steelers could have pretty much nothing to play for except for a seed. The Patriots have the- Well, hold on. Stop right there. Mike Tomlin already said the starters are playing. He wants to try and get the offense functional and moving in the right direction after three weeks of no direction. I would expect to see the starters for Pittsburgh play at least three quarters. And then that outcome for the Steelers could determine what the Chargers do. Okay. How then that outcome for the Steelers could determine what the Chargers do. Okay, how is that? If the Chargers win, and they want to, depending on how they approach it, they can get the five seat. And the five seat you want because the five seat is going to be facing
Starting point is 00:08:57 the Texans. If the Steelers win, then the Chargers, I believe, are locked into the sixth seat. Okay, and the Chargers play on Sunday, whereas the Chargers have nothing believe, are locked into the sixth seat. Okay. And the Chargers play on Sunday, whereas the... And then the Chargers have nothing to play for. The AFC North games are on Saturday. All right. So I was going to say Pittsburgh, yeah, they're going to play their starters. We don't know if they're going to play for the full game. We don't know about the Patriots. They have the number one pick right now. They're facing the Bills. They could win that game. So we don't know about what they're going to do. Well, they should take a long look at Joe Milton that
Starting point is 00:09:26 quarterback is what they should do. Yeah. The commanders say they're going to play their starters. They're at Dallas, the Texans want to play their starters. Again, we don't know how long they're going to do it. The Panthers are going to play their starters. You figure most of the teams that are eliminated are going to play their starters. Maybe not injured guys. Right. Did you see that the Titans are going to use both quarterbacks? Titans are going to use both quarterbacks. We don't know about their running backs right
Starting point is 00:09:50 now. Both Pollard and Spears could play or could be out. Spears looks like he's not going to play. Pollard looks like he is going to play. They originally said Spears was out and then they changed their tune. Right. But they're still, I I think a little pessimistic on it. All healthy veterans will play for the Bears. I don't know what that means. Does that mean Caleb Williams is not playing? They're at Green Bay and Aaron Rodgers is going to start for the Jets. And what am I missing? I mean the Packers. The Rams is the biggest one. So the Rams is the biggest unknown for us right now. So the track record for Sean McVay is to sit these guys in these spots, but they still
Starting point is 00:10:32 have the opportunity if they want to, to try and get the three seed as opposed to being locked into the four seed. So if they win and the Bucks lose, they would be the three seed. Three seed would be facing likely the commanders? Commanders if they win. Otherwise, if the commanders lose and the Packers win, then they're playing the Packers. So the six and the seven is still undecided in the NFC. No one wants to be the four seed because then you're taking on the loser of the last game
Starting point is 00:11:03 of the year between Minnesota and Detroit. Right. So that could be incentive for the Rams to try and win. But Sean McVeigh was faced with the same situation in 2019, I believe. Oh, three times. 20... But the three and the four, he was faced with this decision before. And he decided to rest this guy. So the typical MO for him is to rest in this spot And so three four he knows he's playing at home I guess he's not going to necessarily approach it with a must-win mentality
Starting point is 00:11:35 So that's the one I think the the Chargers I think could be determined by what happens with the Steelers so it's a little bit of up in the air the Rams until Sean McVeigh says anything we don't really know. You said the Texans they're gonna play. The Steelers as of now they're gonna play. Packers. The Packers and the Commanders as of now are gonna play. Again I think you said it best we just don't know how long they're gonna play these guys. Right. You know could be half know, could be the Dan Campbell mentality of just go out and play and see what what happens. So there's there's a lot to be determined here for anybody that's still playing for something. And obviously, if there's some
Starting point is 00:12:13 DFS interest, you know, you you, you can either get really lucky, or you can get really screwed by depending on how you view these guys. So as we'll talk about, the quarterbacks, I think, are easy to avoid in terms of the backups. You don't need to play Carson Wentz. You don't need to play Mitch Trevisky. You don't need to play Jimmy Garoppolo if you don't want to. You can if you want to take some swings at fences, just in terms of their situations.
Starting point is 00:12:39 But you know those guys are playing with some backup offensive linemen and some backup receivers. So it's very, very risky. The other situations, I think, are a little bit different. Like the running backs I would trust a little bit more so than the quarterbacks in some of the backups. Like Ray Davis could be a monster. And yeah, we didn't mention, but Baltimore, this is the good news. If you have Lamar,
Starting point is 00:12:58 Jeff, you have any Ravens, they are the first game of the week. And if they win, they win the division. So you are going to get your Ravens. You're gonna get the Ravens, you're gonna get the Bengals, you're gonna get the Broncos, you're gonna get the Dolphins hopefully to a place. You know not that that really mattered for the skills players so much I guess the one agent was bad but you're gonna get you know the most of the AFC teams are there are a lot of AFC playing because of the AFC teams are, there are a lot of AFC teams playing because of the three teams competing for the seventh spot. And it sounds like most of the playoff teams
Starting point is 00:13:30 in the NFC are playing aside from, again, the Rams. Yeah, and the Broncos are gonna be playing most likely against Chiefs backups. So that could be a very fruitful day for them. All right, if you have not voted for us, please do so. Go to sportspodcastgroup.com and vote for Fantasy Football Today. Go to sportspodcastgroup.com, click Vote Now,
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Starting point is 00:14:33 Colts will be facing the Jaguars, which is pretty usually a pretty good matchup. Kenny Pickett's got the ribs injury that the Eagles have nothing to play for. So are we expecting picket to be the quarterback or or could they go with that third stringer? As of now picket but it could be Tanner McKee. Yeah. Derek Carr has a chance to play. We'll have to see later in the week. Brock Purdy hurt his hand, so he may not play this week against the Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:14:57 Dealing with quote nerve stuff, according to Al Shanahan. And Shanahan said after the game that his status is very much up in the air. So I would expect we'll see a backup quarterback. Baby, let's go. revenge game. I do think he also said after the game that Dobbs was the backup last night because they wanted to potentially use his mobility. So I don't know that was an excuse and Dobbs really is the backup or if
Starting point is 00:15:25 that was just a one off and Brandon Allen is going to be the quarterback who the hell knows but once once they make it clear whoever that quarterback is pretty interesting DFS play. Tua is questionable at the Jets and the Titans are going to start both of their guys and Zach Jackson of the Athletic reported that Deshaun Watson is unlikely to play a meaningful down for the Cleveland Browns again. Well they can thank the Giants. They now have a chance to draft a top two quarterback.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Running back news, James Connor is going to be questionable. Trey Benson also. That's definitely one to watch there as the 49ers are struggling against the run lately. Chase Brown has not been ruled out. Seems a little unlikely with what was reported as maybe a high ankle sprain, but he hasn't been ruled out at Pittsburgh on Saturday. Could be Khalil Herbert though. I mentioned both Titans running backs are going to be questionable. Amir Abdullah,
Starting point is 00:16:13 Jamie Hadam in your waiver column. I haven't seen an update on the foot. Have you seen anything on Abdullah against the Chargers this week? He is not listed on our injury report. He was talking to the media after the game. So at this point, I'm assuming he's going to play. Aaron Jones has a good chance to play at Detroit. Kendry Miller's in the concussion protocol and Justice Hill will play for the Ravens. Wide receiver Mike McDaniel is optimistic about Jalen Waddle playing this week at the Jets and Chris Olave has a chance to play
Starting point is 00:16:39 this week. And that's pretty much it for the news and notes. If you have not signed up for bet MGM yet, it's that's time. Let's do it, man. Got one more week of the regular season than the playoffs and obviously a lot of other sports going on. So if you haven't signed up for bet MGM, just use the bonus code fantasy, and you're going to get up to a $1500 first bet offer on your first wager with bet MGM, download the bet MGM app, sign up using the bonus code fantasy, deposit at least $10 and place your first wager
Starting point is 00:17:08 on any game and you'll receive up to $1,500 in bonus bets if your bet loses. Just make sure you use the bonus code fantasy when you sign up. All right, the quarterbacks to get on the waiver wire. Jamie, who are the best ones we're looking at this week? Josh Dobbs would be number one, just with the opportunity to start against the Cardinals and
Starting point is 00:17:27 What he was able to do as Dave mentioned as a member of the Cardinals last year and as a member of the Vikings So he played in 13 games He scored nine eighteen point nine fantasy points in seven of the 13 appearances that he had So we know he's gonna do a lot with his legs He scored a rushing touchdown when he came on for the Lions last night. So he has borderline top 12 upside for me, especially with the guys who are sitting this week. Joe Flacco would be number two if he starts in place of Anthony Richardson again,
Starting point is 00:17:56 had over 30 fantasy points against the Jaguars in their first meeting. And Jacksonville numbered two in most fantasy points allowed to oppose in quarterbacks. Number three currently is Michael Pennex But you can make a case for Bryce Young but Pennex just gets such a great matchup against the Panthers and it's a must-win game For the Falcons, so I like the upside for Pennex a little bit more than young young is safer though 20 or more fantasy points in three of his last five games All right, so the top three
Starting point is 00:18:21 were Josh Dobbs at Arizona So the top three were Josh Dobbs at Arizona, Joe Flacco against the Jaguars, and Michael Pennex Jr. against the Panthers with Bryce Young in there as well at Atlanta. Another good matchup. How about Drew Locke against the Eagles backups? I don't know if it's gonna be the Eagles backups
Starting point is 00:18:41 and I'm not chasing Drew Locke's points against the Colts. So I don't even have Drew Locke ranked in my top 24. I mean, I'm only doing that because I figured the Eagles, if they play their starters, it's not going to be for long. And the Eagles have nothing to play for except a Saquon Barkley rushing record. We don't know if he's going to play. That's a big storyline going into week 18, by the way. Would you like a little bit of history? If he's criminal, they didn't let him go break it. I agree, unless he says, no, it's fine, I don't want it. And then the team just moves forward that way. Because remember, when he played the Giants earlier this year, he had a chance to get
Starting point is 00:19:11 some sort of record against them. It would have been his biggest Russian game of his career, I think. And he's like, nah, don't worry about it. Right. And he told the coaches, don't worry about it. You know, he's kind of... Oh, he's saying all the right things. He's certainly saying all the right things.
Starting point is 00:19:23 AJ Brown said he would love to be on the field for him while he breaks it so he can look back and say, I hope my teammate get that record. Given how the Giants run defense has been at times this season and how Barkley should be able to run against them with that offensive line, it would be a surprise if he didn't take him maybe a half, maybe a little bit more than half to get it if he's going to get as much work as he did. The fact that they gave him, I know it was to get him to 2,000 yards, but to give him 31 carries in a blowout victory against the Cowboys last week like why would you not just give him the chance to break and in
Starting point is 00:19:58 Devante Smith's rookie year the Eagles had a meaningless week 18 game Smith went out there He only needed to catch like four passes for a low number of yardage to break to Sean Jackson's franchise rookie records. And Sirianni let him do it. And then once he broke the records, whoop, he was out of the game. So there's precedence here where the Eagles have let players play to get records in a meaningless game. He is 101 yards, Saquon Barkley. So I mean, I know that he could do that, but I don't know that he can do that in a meaningless game. He is 101 yards, Saquon Barkley.
Starting point is 00:20:25 So I mean, I know that he could do that, but I don't know that he can do that in a half. That's a lot, but we'll see. All right, so back to the quarterbacks here. Jonathan Taylor against the Titans had 88 yards in the first quarter, so it's not like it's crazy. It's not crazy, but it's also not crazy to think that he won't rush for 101 yards in the first half.
Starting point is 00:20:42 All right, so back to the quarterbacks here again. It's Dobbs at Arizona, Flacco against the Jaguars, Pennex against the Panthers, Bryce Young at Atlanta, Drake may is a little risky, but he if he does start and finish, he's going to be facing Buffalo backups, Kenny Pickett could probably torch the Giants. Tyler Huntley had a good game, but that's tough to trust. You don't like Drew Locke. Then there's guys that maybe maybe
Starting point is 00:21:04 like Aaron Rodgers, I think we're probably done with him at this point. I mean, after what happened last week, it wouldn't be surprising, especially with what he said that he took himself out of the game. Like, if they're behind, does he just say let Tyrod finish it up? He probably wants that 500th touchdown, but I'm sure he does. I'm sure he also doesn't want to be booed
Starting point is 00:21:21 out of his own stadium for what might be his last game with the Jets. I don't get the sense that he cares Yeah How do you feel about like Caleb Williams and Russell Wilson and Gino Smith Anthony Richardson the shallow league guys Who are the guys you said Caleb Williams Caleb Williams Russell Wilson against the Bengals Gino Smith at the Rams Anthony Richardson against the Jaguars if he starts. So Richardson, I would like a lot if he starts.
Starting point is 00:21:51 I like Russell Wilson against the Bengals a lot given the matchup and the fact that they're going to play. He scored over 30 fantasy points against him the last time. And Geno, I think, has some pretty big incentives to reach if he puts up some numbers here. So against Rams backups, I like all three of the guys not named Caleb Williams as top big incentives to reach if he puts up some numbers here. So against Rams backups, I like all three of the guys not named Caleb Williams as top 12 quarterbacks this week if Richardson plays. Okay, Dave, anything to add on the quarterbacks?
Starting point is 00:22:13 No, with Gino against the Rams, if the Rams are going to rest their guys, then it just makes the matchup easier could be just an absolute smash spot for Seattle. All right, let's take a break. We'll come back. We'll talk about the best running backs actually pretty actually pretty darn interesting group of running backs to get this week off the waiver wire. We'll be right back on fantasy football today. So here's what Gino Smith needs if you want to know.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Two million dollars if he surpasses his career high and passing yards, passing touchdowns, completion percentage, passer rating, and either 10 wins or a playoff berth. He's not gonna get the playoff berth, gets he has a chance to get six million dollars on three incentives. Oh yeah so he could definitely get the yards. 186 passing yards for his career high. One more win to get to 10 wins and he's over 70% completion percentage right now so I'm gonna guess he has a chance for a pretty big game here. Oh man his career high completion percentage is 69.8. Right now he's at 70.2. He should definitely get the yards.
Starting point is 00:23:10 I see him dink and dunk. Yeah, JSN may get ready for about 50 thirties. That's really funny. All right, to the running backs. If you can get J.K. Dobbins in shallow leagues, Jalen Warren, Amir Abdullah. Two of those guys, we don't know how much they're going to play, but again, we could know the Chargers incentives
Starting point is 00:23:33 based on what the Steelers do on Saturday, as Jamie laid out earlier. But Abdullah against the Chargers could be good, and he's 70% rostered. But the guys who haven't been picked up recently, maybe Ray Davis and Ty Johnson. Ray Davis being your number one guy Jamie? Yeah you know I always group the guys together so we could see a little bit of both. I would hope what Ray Davis did the last time
Starting point is 00:23:56 he got a chance to start the one game James Cook missed it was over 20 PPR points for Davis so there's that potential again but he's playing with backups and backup offensive linemen so just keep that mind, but so could the Patriots Right and we don't know that he would get all the work. I mean, they might be like he's our number two guy We don't want to get him hurt But Khalil Herbert, how do you think he'll do at Pittsburgh? And he didn't look bad when he came on at the end for the Bengals and we know this Spot has been fairly successful for running backs.
Starting point is 00:24:25 I would go back to probably look at what Zach Moss was doing as opposed to what Chase Brown is doing because I don't think Khalil Herbert is as explosive. So you are talking about maybe a low-end number two running back but you know when we start to get into who's missing and offense that you play for and all those things like Khalil Herbert you know sort of pushes his way near the top. And then the third kind of replacement running back this week is Michael Carter or you could throw Trey Benson in there.
Starting point is 00:24:46 So Dave, Jamie goes, Ray Davis, Khalil Herbert, Michael Carter, uh, slash Trey Benson. How do you see those three backfields? I go Herbert first, just, I know that there's a chance that chase Brown could play, but if he, if he's diagnosed with a high ankle sprain, I'd be shocked if he plays. And if he does play, he'd probably split reps anyway. The Steelers, this doesn't sound like the Steelers. They've allowed 17 or more PPR points to nine of the past 13, to a running back in nine of the past 13 games.
Starting point is 00:25:17 Chiefs had a rush touchdown last week, but they were splitting so much. There wasn't one player that really had a shot to get 17 plus PPR points. I would imagine that Khalil Herbert would have a very good opportunity. And again, if, if the Ravens went earlier in the day, what Mike Tomlin talked about was getting the offense going, the defense needs to get going too. But he could pull starters in the second half if he wanted to. And the Bengals can just go and use Khalil Herbert to wind down the season. Could end up having a very good day.
Starting point is 00:25:47 So I would take him first. And I think I would take Michael Carter second. I'd be shocked if James Connor played after he left each of the past two games. Why play in a meaningless game? I know players play, but it just doesn't make sense for a guy that old to go and play without anything on the line to start wrestling up for next year. Davis would be third. Okay. Other guys?
Starting point is 00:26:09 I'll give you one more name. If we think the Rams are going to sit there, guys, Blake Corum is going to get a huge opportunity. And that's somebody who could end up being pretty potentially good. And again, Ray Davis and Corum especially, we don't know how much they're going to play. We think there will be an opportunity for these rookies to play. They're probably better guys to throw a dart on in a GPP rather than in a week 18 championship game. Yeah. I'm pretty intrigued by Jaleel McLaughlin, who's next on Jamie's list after those three replacement situations in Buffalo, Cincinnati and Arizona, you heard a different order for Dave, but Jaleel McLaughlin against what we expect would be Chiefs backups, Antonio Gibson against Bill's backups.
Starting point is 00:26:54 And he's- Yeah, just a question of who's going to be the starter there for the Patriots, you know, what, or who's going to get the majority of touches. Starters should not matter at this point after what happened last week, but who's going to be the lead running back? Did Gibson do enough and has, you know, Stevenson put himself in the doghouse enough that he's done as the lead guy. So right now I still have Stevenson ranked high at the back as flexes. If we find out Gibson is going to be the lead running back, then he'll be a borderline number two
Starting point is 00:27:19 running back for me. Someone's asking about the NFC South and basically the Bucks are in with a win and the Falcons are in with a win and a Bucks loss. So that's what we're looking at. So they're technically alive. Yeah. And Tampa is playing New Orleans at home and Atlanta is playing Carolina at home. So it looks good for Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 00:27:38 And then that overtime game, Atlanta had had everything in their grasp because they had controlled their own destiny if they had beaten the commanders and they kind of let that one slip away. Other running backs could look at Clyde Edwards Zillair he's the Saints running back now he's at Tampa Bay not a good match up Bucks have been dominant against the run lately. Carson Steele and Samaje Perrine for the Chiefs. It's funny Deontay Foreman it just looks like he's probably gonna be the starter. We don't know about Jerome Ford, but Ford was not, he didn't make it through the game.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And it's just a terrible matchup for Deontay Foreman against the Ravens who need to win. And then Justice Hill is back. The Browns have not allowed more than 25 receiving yards to a running back since week seven. It's one thing that they're doing well. The Panthers running backs, that was a mess last week, but Miles Sanders could be back. Raheem Blackshear.
Starting point is 00:28:27 They're at Atlanta. Kenneth Gainwell, maybe it may be the, maybe the Eagles can sign Boston Scott for this game. Kenneth Gainwell against the giants, Emanuel Wilson against the bears. Again, we don't know what the Packers are going to do with their starters and Chris Rodriguez Jr. For the commanders at Dallas. So I just want to go through the NFC scenarios one more time with the seeding here. So the Packers are the seven, but they could be the six,
Starting point is 00:28:53 right? Okay. They can't be the five. The five will be the loser of the Sunday night game. Correct. The one will be the winner. The two seed is the Eagles, no matter what happens Sunday. And then the three, four is either gonna be the, so if the Rams win, they're the three seed, which is what they wanna be.
Starting point is 00:29:11 They wanna face the six, not the five. They don't wanna face the Vikings or the Lions. And if the Rams lose and the Bucks win, then the Bucks are the three and the Rams are the four? Correct. But there's no scenario where the Falcons, the Falcons are two games back of the Rams are the four? Correct. But there's no scenario where the Falcons the Falcons are two games back at the Rams. So the Rams if the Bucks lose the Rams are the three.
Starting point is 00:29:32 Okay. And what time are those games? Rams are at four. Yes, they're both going to be at the Rams are definitely a four. Bucks are at one. So that's interesting, right? So if the bucks somehow lose to the Saints, then the Rams are locked in. Yeah, Rams are locked. Right. So if the Rams are waiting out the outcome, that could determine what they do as well. So if the bucks win and they're preparing to play, then they may play. Yeah. Well, I think the bucks are going to win.
Starting point is 00:30:04 I think the bucks are are gonna win too. Wide receivers. It gets a little more interesting if Carr and Olavi and Kamara play. It's 100% true, right? Yeah, that'd be so interesting. Wide receivers, oh man, are the Falcons fans rooting for that?
Starting point is 00:30:18 They are rooting for that, the trio. It's funny to have a starting- Reportedly sent all their Tor toward all to New Orleans. I have March on Latimore back for one game. Yeah, right. Can Mike Evans have a good game against the Saints? Because even in the games that Latimore's missed, he hasn't been good. Yeah, I'm writing the the all fantasy teams, all rookie team, the all
Starting point is 00:30:44 bus team once the season's over. And I started writing the the all fantasy teams all rookie team the all bus team once the season's over and I started putting the list together yesterday and I was like it's really hard to keep Mike Evans off the list Despite the fact that he missed time and same puka like their points per game are so good so yeah Including how they do one more game at least for it for Evans puka may not play but They're not on the first team, but they they both made the 13th. Yeah, and you know Evans game, at least for Evans, Pooka may not play, but they're not on the first team, but they both made the third team. Yeah, and you know Evans is getting at least 85 yards.
Starting point is 00:31:10 That's right. Oh yeah, big time. All right, check to see if Michael Pittman, I'm gonna throw Josh Downs in there. I know he had a bad week, but he's- I think he's rostered to me, Ligza. Okay, I thought he was rostered in about the same amount of leagues as Michael Pittman.
Starting point is 00:31:23 This is the shallow league talk. Where's Pierce at on this list? I didn't put Pierce on the list. I should have. Yeah, he belongs. Just for fun, would you rather have Downs or Pittman this week? Pittman. Pittman.
Starting point is 00:31:37 I might rather have Pierce too. Joe Flacco is in full blown YOLO mode. And it's part of the reason why he had the turnover set he had against the giants, he's just chucking up balls deep to, um, wide receivers downfield. That sounded a little funny. Sorry about that. Um, but he's, he's letting his big guys go up and catch 50, 50 balls. And with Pittman and Pierce, those are like 55, 45, 60, 40.
Starting point is 00:32:03 And then he also had good accuracy on slants and outs and stuff like that. So not the most consistent game for Joe Flacco, obviously, but he's just, he's willing to air it out. Yeah. Jalen McMillan would be the prize here. If you could still, he's still going to be on a waiver. Probably not, but he's 71% rostered and Romeo Dobbs had 11 targets last week with Christian Watson out at Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:32:28 But again, we don't know what the Packers are going to do. So the guys who are rostered in fewer than 65% of leagues, Chris Olave has Tampa Bay on the road. Olamide Zaccheaus, two straight games with 23.3 to 24 PPR fantasy points. He's at Dallas. Again, don't know what they're going to do. Marvin Mims at Kansas City. 3.3 to 24 PPR fantasy points. He's at Dallas Again don't know what they're gonna do Marvin Mims at Kansas City. They need to play he will definitely be playing And that's really I mean, those are the exciting ones. I guess you got like Rashad Bateman Don Tavian wicks
Starting point is 00:33:00 Ricky Pearsall Jalen Naylor one day. Robinson's actually pretty easy pretty interesting, because I do think the Eagles are not going to have their guys in, their starters in for the entire game. Brandon Cooks, Xavier Liggett, but let's talk about the top ones, Jamie. Olave, Zaccheaus, Mims. Thoughts? I mean, obviously Olave's got the most potential, most upside if he plays, especially if Carr does return.
Starting point is 00:33:23 So it's a matter of, you know, how much you want to trust him coming back from the concussion. But you would expect them to be throwing a lot and he would be my, my favorite in terms of upside. Zacchaeus clearly has stepped into the Noah Brown role and done much better than Noah Brown with what he's done the last two games. You hope it's not just the revenge game factor and they weren't giving him
Starting point is 00:33:42 targets because clearly they need to win those two games. And he was a big part of it. My gosh, Jane Daniels was leaning on him early in that game. Should have had another touchdown. It's funny when he had the touchdown that was taken back from a holding call, actually texted you at him when I walked out of the room. I didn't realize it was a holding call when I was like, oh, another game. Good game for Zacchaeus.
Starting point is 00:34:02 That's what happened. I walked back and I was like, why is the score chain? I was like, Oh, another game. Good game for Zacchaeus. I walked back and I was like, why is the score chain? I was like, Oh, hold on. But yeah, he's been fantastic. I think, you know, you just look at some of the opportunities for these guys and what they're looking at. You know, Mims is a little tougher to trust, but just coming off the game that he had, like, how do you put that back in the box after what he did, you know, catching all of his targets and bone next leaning on him and they're giving him some opportunities in the backfield to know whether that continues or not remains to be seen. As they said out here should be in this group to you know just based on what is a. I'm down to play is can be any of our children you know me this is been so rich since guy as well you know in terms of looking for him and the match against Jacksonville so you know it's icing especially if they decided to the ball.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Jacksonville so you know enticing especially if they decide to throw the ball up. I wouldn't be as excited in Pierce if Richardson plays. This is a flacco thing. Uh no I would agree but it's still a great matchup and you know this is what Richardson does you know it's it's a lot of when he's throwing he's taking shots and they may allow him to do even more of that. Shots shots shots shots shots yeah. Uh all right Any other thoughts, Dave? Olav, Zaccheaus, Mims, Bateman, Wicks, Pearsall, Naylor, Alec Pierce, Wendell Robinson. Oh, the Cowboys receivers. I think I skipped them. Yeah. Brandon Cooks is interesting.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I believe he had eight targets on Sunday. So that's not bad. He's probably the best Dallas wide receiver that you could start. If the Rams rest their guys, this is going to be, again, more GPP focused than anything else. but Jordan Whittington could take over in the slot for Cooper cup. I think he might be the future of the slot for LA. So not only a guy you could stash and keeper leagues, dynasty leagues, all that stuff, but someone who could be fairly useful. I would still start guys like Pierce, Mims,
Starting point is 00:35:41 Akiya way ahead of Whittington. But just another guy, he and Tutu Atwell might be the best options for the Rams as far as the passing game goes. If they rest guys and Garoppolo might start and Garoppolo might view this as an opportunity to showcase himself, can try and do what Donald did last year. Maybe end up as a starter somewhere. He's going to be the Giants. Maybe end up as a starter somewhere. He's going to be the Giants quarterback next year. I just, it's inevitable. I don't want to gloss over Jalen Naylor just because what we saw last night was the third receiver for the 49ers having a big day in Ricky Pearsall. And we know the secondary is an absolute joke right now for the Lions.
Starting point is 00:36:25 So with how this game could go and you just saw what a game plan was to try and take away which didn't work in the entire game to try and make things tough on Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison and Sam Dottel was not afraid to go to Nailer. So in a game that's expected to be north of 50 points All Minnesota's guys are a player. Schaefer, can you come on the show? Can we have a little Schaefer here? Will Minnesota Schaefer. Who do you think is going to win?
Starting point is 00:36:54 Unmute yourself. There you go. All the Vikings are going to win. I agree. If the spread, if the spread was like four and a half, I would say the Lions, but it's too close of a spread. Vikings are going to take it. What is the spread?
Starting point is 00:37:09 Two and a half. Who? The Lions or the Vikings? Yeah, the Lions. Oh, wow. That is exciting. I definitely underestimated the Vikings. They are better than I thought.
Starting point is 00:37:19 They are legit. They are really good. This is the game where if he darnolds, it's gonna happen. I don't think he's gonna darnold. I don't think he is either, but if it's gonna happen, this is the game. Because like,
Starting point is 00:37:31 He almost got him last week. Everything is, hit me at a bad throw. And you're like, cost the game. He'll make a mistake. Yeah, he'll make a mistake. But hopefully not more than one. Man, it's just a shame for the Lions. Like, I don't know why, I just have a soft spot
Starting point is 00:37:48 in my heart for them and their defense is just too in. Yeah, I know, we don't have a Super Bowl either. The Bills don't have a Super Bowl. There's a lot of teams that don't have Super Bowls. I don't know what it is, yeah. I don't care about the, yeah, I don't care about the Vikings, like whatever. Nah, I was a Vikings fan a few years ago, if you recall. Wish I't care about that. Yeah, I don't care about the Vikings. Like whatever.
Starting point is 00:38:08 I was a Vikings fan a few years ago, if you recall. Wish I had started that. I remember you being a Jags fan. Oh, he's been a Jaguars fan, a Vikings fan, an Eagles fan. Can I tell you- Anything to keep from actually being a Jags fan. Where is this one that was an Eagles fan? Like as a Giants fan his whole life being an Eagles fan.
Starting point is 00:38:21 That was the worst. Yeah. I mean, why not root for the Cowboys next? I was thinking about calls that I've made because people love to kill me for all my calls and like the Lamar Jackson MVP thing. I a few years ago, the year before they got Trevor Lawrence, I said the Jaguars were going to go 0 in 16. Do you remember that?
Starting point is 00:38:39 I was convinced. Do you remember what happened? They won week one and I got destroyed and they went one in 15. I just, I don't know what I thought about that, but I'll always love the Jaguars for that. All right, we're going to take a break, come back and talk about tight ends. Is it going to be O'Conquo again? Getting you to a week 18 championship.
Starting point is 00:38:57 We'll be right back on fantasy football today. And we're on the 18th green here for our tight ends in fantasy football today. Alright, another Masters promo for those of you who aren't watching and wondering why I'm talking like this. Jay, may I have a question for you? Why is Chigokankwo last on your waiver wire priorities for the tight ends and not first? Because they may have two quarterbacks and one doesn't seem to like his tight end as much as the other one does so I If honestly like the tired Titans passing game, I would like to avoid if they're gonna play both guys Interesting. All right, so you'd rather have kisiki So yeah, I take a little bit of a different take than Dave has I do agree that Khalil Herbert should be added
Starting point is 00:39:40 But this run game could be terrible for Cincinnati If the Steelers do play their guys and the defense holds up. And that's kind of what we saw that they couldn't run the ball against Denver very well. And Kasecki had a big game. Obviously the receivers are trying to, they were trying to take away the receiver. So you saw Kasecki involved in the, in the short passing game, but I think that could happen again.
Starting point is 00:39:59 So when there's a mess with those guys at the bottom, like the game he just had and how successful he was, I wouldn't be surprised if he's there run game essentially yeah you'll see in the stats that the Steelers have allowed some pretty big numbers to tight ends over the last four games but it's all big name tight ends. Or at least in the case of the ravens they had two guys it was Andrews and Isaiah likely had a touchdown I don't know if I can put Gassicki in the same box as those guys. And I'm a little bit nervous about trusting Gassicki to have the exact same type of target volume that he had. He's close. I think he is gonna be a top 12 tight end for me this week, but I might rather go Alconquil even with the quarterback
Starting point is 00:40:37 Snafu in Tennessee. All right, so Jamie's top four. Well, first of all, you can look for Kyle Pitts or Hunter Henry. Pitts would be pretty interesting. You only have to forget the Texans are getting healthy on defense and they want to show that they actually can play football again.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yeah. And and that would be O'Connkwo's matchup. Yeah. So you could look for Pitts or Henry but the top four that are not rostered in a lot of leagues are Gassicki for Jamie, Dalton Schultz, Jawan Johnson and Chig O'igokankwo. Dave, how would you rank it? It's gonna be Okonkwo. This is how I have it now in PPR. Okonkwo, Schultz, Gasecki, and Joann Johnson's dead last. Okay, so you just have more faith in Okonkwo regardless of the quarterback situation. I mean the coach who's also the play caller really went out of his way to
Starting point is 00:41:26 to compliment O'conkwo after I guess it was Monday that he did it. And this is if they don't have a run game, this is their plan B is to just throw short passes to O'conkwo. Okay. And do you like Kyle Pitts better than your favorite waiver wire tight end? No, I like these guys all better than Pitts. Maybe better than Jawan Johnson. Johnson's going to kind of hedge on what's happening with the Saints receivers, but he had a nice game against the Raiders. What about Hunter Henry versus your favorite waiver wire guy. Henry is behind Gasecki and behind Wokonkwo and behind, he's like right there.
Starting point is 00:42:12 I mean, they're all in pine shulks. They're all like top total guys. Why is Dave wearing a Michael Pittman shirt? Who has a Michael Pittman shirt? This was my Halloween costume and Pittman just had a great game on Sunday. So it's also laundry day at the Richard house. DSTs, the Seahawks are at the Rams.
Starting point is 00:42:31 This could definitely be dependent on the situation here. The Texans are at the Titans. They're getting Aziz Alshayar back. You know, I already sang my one song for the day, but I also just so everybody knows, I wrote a song in the tune of Hot To Go about Henry To'oto'o. Henry T-O-O-T-O-O. And it had to do with Aziz Al-Shair. But I'm not going to sing that one. I decided no. The Commanders at Dallas, that could be a good one. This is kind of a weird week. A lot of the DSTs are rostered, but you may find some on waivers that are just check our rankings.
Starting point is 00:43:08 There's some really good matchups. And kicker streamers, Will Lutz against the chiefs, Zane Gonzalez at Dallas, Will Reichard at Detroit. I like Will Reichard a lot. I mean, he's good. It's going to be a high scoring game. Did he miss two field goals? Did he? Weren't they long though?
Starting point is 00:43:26 He joined one. He may have missed two. And it's funny because like you see what what happened with Jake Moody last night. The Lions are, you know, statistically one of the better teams against opposing kickers, but that's just no there's no way to qualify that he made a 25 yarder and a 50 yarder. He missed one from 57. He missed one from 57.
Starting point is 00:43:45 He missed one from 43. He's still, he scored double digit points in three. Oh yeah. I mean, it's going to be a high scoring game. Lots of opportunities. Rykert should at least hit two field goals and get like three extra points. I promised people some 2024 talk on every show this week and I sort of forgot about that for this episode, but we've been doing 2024 talking to her. Yeah, we've really come through on that promise for like the last 300.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Twenty twenty five talks. Someone asked in the chat, who are your top three overall players for 2025? I obviously I have not thought about it yet. I've been so locked into the. Jamar Chase, Sequon Barkley and B. John Robinson in some order. Hmm, interesting. Hmm. Definitely Bijon up there for me. Barkley. Not sure. Not sure about top three. Like,
Starting point is 00:44:44 probably. Up top your head, who would you put up there against Saquon? Jefferson is fourth. Jefferson's really interesting. I think I think, oh boy, that Nico Collins is not going to be a top three pick. But there's a going to be a great case to be made for Nico Collins, because I don't think Diggs is going to be a top three pick, but there's going to be a great case to be made for Nico Collins. Because I don't think Diggs is going to be back and I don't care if he is. Like Nico Collins has a chance to have number one wide receiver overall production.
Starting point is 00:45:17 I don't know why he slumped so much at the end. Just Stroud has been so bad, but like they upgrade their offensive line. Yes. Look, I think Jamie's three makes sense, but Barclley's kind of old to be a number one running back. I would have bees on over Barkley. And he doesn't catch that many passes either. So it's like, I know he had an amazing year, but he's definitely top five. I don't know if he's top three. Chase is also interesting because he never has been able to do this with Higgins on the field. But I don't see how you can deny it. Well, Higgins may be gone.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Yeah, if Higgins is gone, Chase is going to be gone. Really, the concern is, is Chase going to have a contract situation that we're bothered by this off? Right. Then he's holding out, and he's not in training camp. And it's kind of like the CD Lam situation all over again. Might you be interested in a list of the nine players, non-quarterbacks, that average 19 plus PPR points per game to help
Starting point is 00:46:06 you figure out who should be top three, top five. Nine who? Non-quarterbacks? Nine players that averaged at least 19 PPR. Two you could throw out. Pouca is not going to be one and Kamara is not going to be one. Pouca isn't on the list and neither is Kamara. So here-
Starting point is 00:46:20 They both averaged over 19 points. They did not. They were very close. Amon Ra St. Brown, who's going to be a first rounder, but probably not top three. Derek Henry, not going to be a first rounder, not going to be top three. Jefferson, definitely the conversation. T Higgins, definitely not because who the hell knows where he's going to play. Bichon definitely is.
Starting point is 00:46:39 Godwin, definitely not. Jameer Gibbs. Yeah. Adam, you're going to make your same case for him like you did last year that he's going to share too much and then he can't possibly do it. And I think it's important to see what his average is. His average with David Montgomery isn't going to be 19.8. That's what he's at right now. And then the other two are Saquon and Chase. So I think a top three, some order of Chase, Bijan, Saquwan is probably going to be where we settle. In full PPR, I think it's justifiable to go with Justin Jefferson. I think people will come around
Starting point is 00:47:14 to the idea of Nico Collins. It's going to sound crazy at first, but to put him ahead of Sehkwan Barkley. How many catches? Does Barkley have 40 catches? He has 43 targets and 33 receptions. Yeah, that's not, I mean, 43 targets is, no, it's not enough. It's not enough. You've got to have like a special, special year to be that good and he is having it. But I don't know that he'll have it again when he's going to be with 28. 28 is not that old. I mean, maybe I should just get over that. Well, it's also going to depend on how far of a playoff run
Starting point is 00:47:45 they have because then it's just additional touches for him. Yeah. You know, coming off the year that he's having with 345, which is, you know, pretty close to the number that we hate. How about Achan? So we'll see how many touches he has. Yeah, Mr. Puffins, he says Achan's gonna be a fun discussion.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Does he enter this conversation? No. He should. No, he's not in the top three. No, not not top three, but he's a first rounder. And here with Montgomery this year, it's 14 weeks, 13 games, 18.2. In terms of Jefferson, I mean, clearly the quarterback situation is going to determine it because if they move on from Donald Nance McCarthy, he's not going to pass chase and be a top, the top receiver. No. Okay. Uh, honestly, receiver. I mean, you could see so many guys finishing his wide receiver one next year, including, uh, Brian Thomas Jr.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I it's probably going to be hard from the one, but so good Malik neighbors, Puka Puka. Why couldn't Puka? Why not Puka Nikua? There's no reason, especially if Cups not back and Cup looks like nothing right now. I don't know why Puka Nikua can't be a top three pick. I think he could definitely. I mean, again, you know, if it's going to be wide receiver heavy, I think the thing that we're going to see is that all these running backs did so well this year that we're going to get a little bit of a push back toward that position. One thing that we've had some discussions during the year, I know talking to Robert Turbin about it, for example, you see more bell cow running backs this year. That's been awesome.
Starting point is 00:49:15 We haven't seen as many two-back situations, tandem situations where the second guy has been taking as much work from the first guy. We've been really lucky with that. So will that continue? You know, if that's the trend that the NFL is, is moving toward, you know, and so I don't see, you know, the way that defenses are playing where they're taking away big plays from all these, you know, passing games that that's why we've seen a shift toward running backs. And the fact that the free agent class was as successful as it was, I mean, Joe Mixon was having a monster season before he tailed off toward the end, you know, just in terms of his, his production,
Starting point is 00:49:48 Camaro was having a monster season before he tailed off, you know, in terms of how he is operating, not that he changed teams. But Eric Henry and Mark Lee and, and Josh Jacobs and all these guys that signed contracts and all delivered. Really the only one that didn't was Deandre Swift, like in terms of the, the high end guys, you know what I mean? Zach Moss was Zach Moss, but in terms of the guys that signed somewhat big deals, they all were successful.
Starting point is 00:50:10 LWKRG Back to Nakua. When he came back in week eight through the rest of the season, and this includes week nine, remember he did not play either. I think he got hurt in week nine and then he came back. He got ejected. LWKRG Oh, that's right. He got ejected from week nine, including that game. He averaged 19.8 PPR points per game.
Starting point is 00:50:29 Absolutely in the conversation to be a top five pick. Yeah. I'm sorry. I'm just doing a little bit of math. Oh, wow. Jamar Chase averaged 27.4 fantasy points per game in his last eight games. That's basically what CD Lam did in that big stretch last year. And and chase Brown averaged 20.6 fantasy points per game in those eight games. That was the start of the chase Brown.
Starting point is 00:50:52 That was after the Zach Moss entry. All right. Last time of those games were without T Higgins, too. I don't know if any of them were without T Higgins. How many with the last eight games? Yeah. How many did he miss? Starting with Las Vegas, he missed two of them were without T Higgins? How many with the last eight games? Yeah. How many did he miss? Starting with Las Vegas, he missed two of them.
Starting point is 00:51:07 First two and Chase had a 55 point game in one. Okay. Who let's play to finish off our Tuesday show. Who has more? All right. I haven't seen who has more. We've been playing it on CBS Sports Network on every Tuesday. I asked Dave and Jamie a question. They give me an answer.
Starting point is 00:51:23 So who has more fantasy points per game in full PPR this year? Justin Jefferson or T Higgins? T Higgins. Points per game? Jefferson. It is T Higgins by 0.2 fantasy points per game. Oh I was just looking at that when I was going over the players that had at least 19 PPR points per game. So that was a, that was a layup for me. Thank you. Oh, stay a sir. You're welcome. And in my, uh, my home league, my softball league last night, the Jameer Gibbs touchdown with about two and a half minutes left gave one of my friends a win by 0.1 to fantasy points. He needed every yard of that run. So much of that going around this year, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Something similar to one of my buddies who texted me because I just lost on that. Oh yeah, it was brutal. I think I may have won the Flex League on that. Maybe not, but close. Touchdowns, who has more touchdowns? Jamar Chase or the New England Patriots? I'll take Chase.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Yeah, I'll say the Patriots. It is the Patriots, 17 to 16. Jamar Chase does have more touchdowns than the New York Giants though, 16 to 14. Who has more fantasy points per game in six point per passing touchdown leagues in the fantasy playoffs the last three weeks? Jaden Daniels or Jared Goff?
Starting point is 00:52:53 Who was the number one quarterback? I will say Goff. Dave is on fire. He's up three nothing. It is Jared Goff 38.1 to 36.6. Who has more PPR fantasy points per game in the fantasy playoffs? Brian Thomas Jr. or Malik neighbors? I'll say Brian Thomas Jr. I'll say neighbors. It is Brian Thomas Jr. Dave with a sweep. Dave's already locked this up for nothing.
Starting point is 00:53:26 Brian Thomas Jr. is the number one wide receiver in fantasy during the playoffs. He was followed by T Higgins, Mike Evans, Amon Ross St. Brown and Malik Neighbors. Is he a first rounder? I think so. I think so too. Again, gotta see who the coach is.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Who has more? It's who you think it's going to be. I'm going to be very excited about it. I don't think it will be Ben Johnson if Trent Balke is still there. Then fire Trent Balke and let's bring on Ben Johnson. Who has more PPR fantasy points per game in the fantasy playoffs, Amir Abdullah or Saquon Barkley? No.
Starting point is 00:54:03 I'll say Barkley. I honestly, this isn't just to do a bit. I'm taking Abdullah. It is Amir Abdullah by five tenths of a point. 18.4. I really thought it would be. 18.4. It's unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:54:18 Who has more total touchdowns this season? Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, or Joe Burrow? Burrow. Yeah, I think it's Burrow. It is Joe Burrow, 44 for Burrow, 43 for Jackson, 40 for Allen, and there's another quarterback who actually has more than Allen. More touchdowns than Allen?
Starting point is 00:54:42 Yeah. Is it golf? No, Baker. Baker Mayfield has 42 touchdowns this year, unbelievable. Who has more championships? Joe Montana or Tony Kukoc? Yeah. Uh, is that- Well hold on, wait, are you including any like
Starting point is 00:55:01 European league champions? No, just American. This is strictly NBA championships. Versus NFL, yeah. For the cookies. Uh-huh. Montana. Don't they have the same?
Starting point is 00:55:11 They do not have the same. Oh, then it's Montana. I think, oh, I think it's Montana. It's Montana, four to three. Good job, guys. I was trying to find, like, LeBron has four? How many does LeBron have? No, he has more than that. LeBron has four? How many does Bron have? No, he has more than that.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Bron has one with the Lakers, two with the Heat, one with the Caps. He has four. Yeah. And Kukocz just has the three with the Bulls, right? Yeah. Three for him. Montana with four. You would know.
Starting point is 00:55:35 You would think that I would know that Adam. I was trying to think of Kukocz like sign somewhere else and like want a championship like that. I don't think he ever, did he play with anybody else? I don't know, but I just looked on Wikipedia, like most championships, Kuko just played with. Bill Russell has 11, I think Yogi Berra has 10. I don't know if anyone in football
Starting point is 00:55:53 has anything close to that. But that's it for the show. Brady's got seven. Brady's got seven, yeah, Brady has the most seven. Like I know he had the most Super Bowls, but I forgot like even before Super Bowl era, I think Brady still has the most. How many does Robert Ory have?
Starting point is 00:56:06 Doesn't he have like eight or something? I think it's six. Robert Ori rings. He has seven. Two with Houston, three with the Lakers, two with the Spurs. Oh man, Kukoc played with the Sixers, the Hawks and the Bucks.
Starting point is 00:56:23 That's as many teams, oh that's almost as many teams as Michael Jordan. I don't even know if I can pronounce this team. The first pro team that he was with, I'll put it in the chat. Jamie, feel free to try and pronounce that one. Oh, Hugo Plastica. Yeah. There you go. Well, congratulations folks. And we'll talk to you tomorrow with tough calls for week 18 and some more 2025 rankings. See you later.

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