Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire! Broncos/Falcons/Colts Backfields and More (10/04 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 4, 2022

Is this the week to break the bank for a free agent running back like Tyler Allgeier or Latavius Murray? Probably not! But there are plenty of exciting waiver wire options in Week 5 including George P...ickens, Josh Reynolds, Rachaad White and Geno Smith. We start with the top priorities (5:30) and give our thoughts on the Broncos backfield (11:15) going forward ... How much FAB are we spending this week (17:35)? Who are the deep league targets (21:50)? What other injuries are we tracking (24:55)? ... We give the top options at QB (28:00), RB (33:15), WR (35:45), TE (37:50) DST (42:55) and K. We discuss Ryan Tannehill, Mark Ingram, Devin Duvernay, Tyler Conklin and many more. Then we recap 49ers-Rams (47:10) and give you even more names to know on your waiver wire (52:10) ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:16 Visit amex.ca slash business platinum. This is Fantasy Football Today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? No, I can't. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. This is going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Starting point is 00:01:43 Well, Javante Williams out for the year. A real bummer. Sorry about that, fantasy managers. Tyler Algier maybe stepping up for Cordero Patterson. We got two big injuries there. We got Jonathan Taylor questionable for Thursday night. Is this finally the week? Is this the big fab spending week, the big waiver wire week?
Starting point is 00:02:00 Jamie, how's it looking in week five? I don't think it's a big week for Fab because there's a lot of uncertainty with some of the replacement situations. You know, you have the scenario in Atlanta where Tyler Algier might be great for week five, but it's a tough matchup. Caleb Huntley is looming and he played well in
Starting point is 00:02:18 his opportunity that he had in week four. And then we get to week five, excuse me, then we get to week six, and Damian Williams might be back and he can be the best running back for Atlanta. So it's, it's a little bit of a mess situation there. The Denver situation is very cloudy now because I still would expect Melvin Gordon to be the lead guy there, but, uh,
Starting point is 00:02:34 with his fumble problems and the addition of Latavius Murray, now we're looking at a potential committee. You mentioned the Don Taylor situation. There's no real answer. A is he going to be out? b is it going to be Naeem Hines staying in his role or does he get the the lead opportunity uh Philip Lindsay Dion Jackson those are two guys there so no I don't think you should be breaking the bank for one guy but you could be spending on a couple of guys to maybe take some some flyers on to see what happens moving forward okay yeah no it's fair enough it's kind of depressing all the way around because you
Starting point is 00:03:07 lose the two guys right you lose you lose giovante you lose cordero patterson and there's no like okay this guy could be very good you know like if you really want to avoid the mess of the of the injury replacements just go get rashad white because he may eventually become that guy uh or you know what? Mark Ingram might still be really relevant this week. Oh. Because if Alvin Kamara's not healthy, and Latavius Murray's now gone. That's right.
Starting point is 00:03:35 The dream matchup for Alvin Kamara. The Lions and the Seahawks, I think, who just bonanzed in week four, are dream matchups for running backs. Dave, I did not. And the Texans. And the Texans. Yeah. I did not like my intro.
Starting point is 00:03:48 It was weird. It was very to the point. So I'm going to put up a comment here from Aaron in our YouTube chat. He says, Dave, give me life! No. It's depressing out there. It's up in these fantasy football worlds that we're living in. A lot of injuries that hurt us
Starting point is 00:04:08 this week. And I'm still reeling from a loss I took last night in one of our leagues. Oh. All I needed Allen Robinson to do was catch like two passes for 15 yards.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I lost by 0.96. Not nice fantasy points. That's the opposite of nice to George Maselli, one of our best editors and just frustrating that Alan Robinson, who I tried to spite drop before the 49ers were done taking their kneel downs at the end of the game or before the Rams, whatever. I don't even know. I wasn't paying attention at the end.
Starting point is 00:04:47 I didn't care. It was so bad. No, they didn't kneel. The site didn't let me. I'm going to see if I can spite drop him right now. At this point, it's not just a spite drop. He sucks. He shouldn't be on a fantasy team.
Starting point is 00:04:58 What was this complaint you had about Alan Kamara on the situation this weekend? Oh, I'll get into that later. We've been hearing too much about that. That's on Wednesday. That's on Wednesday. I'm going to run over into my stupid mentions and everything. Yeah, I mean, the gist of it was, you know, Chris even started this conversation. We offered some leniency to people who didn't know and maybe could make a substitution after the game,
Starting point is 00:05:20 but before the 1 o'clock. All right, all right, all right, all right. Just the thought. Yes, some of us got killed for it. So anyway, we'll talk about that on Wednesday. Did you say some of us got killed for it? I took a lot of heat for it. It became a hot topic.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Well, you're the one saying that you should allow people to bench him. I don't think it's a blanket statement. I think it depends on your league. I think there's an opportunity. No, stop. I'm not getting into it. This is a waiver wire show. Not getting into it.
Starting point is 00:05:46 All right. We'll talk about the Rams game. I feel better. I just spike cut Allen Robinson. He's gone from my team. There you go. Is that the notification I just got in one of my leagues? That's probably what you just got.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Okay. So, anyway, Javante out for the year, and he tore his ACL and his LCL. Melvin Gordon did have a neck issue, but he's fine. They have a Thursday game. Russell Wilson's a little dinged up. They expect him to play. They're hosting the Colts. Cordero Patterson on IR in the next two matchups.
Starting point is 00:06:11 I don't know if Tampa Bay's run defense is still great. It really has only been great for one week, but it's Tampa Bay and then it's San Francisco, and they are definitely great. So that's not a great outlook for the Falcons running backs. And Jonathan Taylor, we thought maybe there'd be a waiver wire opportunity or something like that,
Starting point is 00:06:26 but he could play on Thursday. And if he doesn't, it might be. Yeah. Yeah. I just, I don't know. I mean,
Starting point is 00:06:32 Heinz is 75% rostered. I don't think you're going to trust. Right. But it's the other two guys that, you know, you can take a chance on. And by Wednesday we find out Taylor's out and Dion Jackson is starting where Phillip Lindsay is starting.
Starting point is 00:06:43 And then you're looking at, okay, that's a flex. Yeah. And then we got to keep an eye on Amandra St. Brown. We got to keep an eye on Keenan Allen. We got to keep an eye on Hunter Renfro because you still have Josh Reynolds, Josh Palmer, Mac Hollins, who could have opportunities. There's a lot of guys. There's George Pickens. Let's get into it. Top three waiver wire priorities. Jamie, who would you say they are? I would put Tyler Algeo first, just with the chance that he is the lead guy for the Falcons. You know, this was something that we thought might happen at the beginning of the season after they drafted him in the third round.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I'll put George Pickens second, with the chance that he takes off now that Kenny Pickett's the starter and what we saw in that game against the Jets. And then the third option, you could say it's a Broncos running back just because there is a clear opportunity for at least somebody to be the second guy there along with Melvin Gordon. But if you're just looking for a one week situation, it might just still be Josh Reynolds because he looked good, you know, in the game against the Seahawks, obviously the Seahawks
Starting point is 00:07:41 tougher matchup this week against the Patriots. But we don't know the extent of Amar St. Brown's injury. And clearly, they're looking for somebody else. DJ Chark is also banged up. Jameson Williams is not ready to go yet. So I'll put him third ahead of those other guys. If you want to put another running back in the mix, it's Rashad White, just with the hope
Starting point is 00:07:59 that he continues to get work. And he is clearly the one guy you can identify now as a lottery ticket based on his role now plus if something happens in front of him all right so jamie said tyler algier who gets tampa bay this week but patterson's out at least four weeks george pickens who gets the bills this week on the road and josh reynolds um they get the patriots as jamie said tougher matchup also on the road. Dave, what are your thoughts? Who are you prioritizing this week?
Starting point is 00:08:29 And by the way, we should specify, who do you want in the Denver backfield, Latavius Murray or Mike Boone? I really don't want either one. So I'm not going to make a priority for either one. My top three is the same as Jamie's. Algier one, Pickens two, Reynolds three, because the rookies have a chance to help you in week five and maybe even help you rest of season.
Starting point is 00:08:50 I loved what happened when Pickett came in the game and George Pickens just started getting targets. He was the top receiver in terms of yards for the Steelers. And I don't think it's going away, but the things that we talked about
Starting point is 00:09:03 with why Najee Harris was a sell for what you can get, can't say a sell high, sell whatever, was because of the schedule. And the schedule's going to be bad for Pickens, too. It's going to be bad for Pickett. But I love the connection. They're going to trail a lot. Chase Claypool is awful. I expect him to get benched sooner than later.
Starting point is 00:09:24 Pickens will be the number two receiver and maybe even make a run at the number one receiver spot with Deontay Johnson. And so I'm all in on Pickens love to go and get him. I also think that there are four receivers that are worth prioritizing. Maybe after the, these first three or four names or after the guys that you get, I think there's still going to be on the waiver wire after your waivers run
Starting point is 00:09:47 on Wednesday or Thursday morning. It's Isaiah McKenzie, who's concussed right now, but if he gets cleared, he might end up being the number two receiver in Buffalo. Zay Jones, who had an ankle injury last week. Jacoby Myers didn't play last week. Richie James, I know. I loved him and told people to stash him.
Starting point is 00:10:07 Some people started him. That didn't work out last week, but I still think he's going to have a role. I think those four receivers have a chance to be at least really good bench options, if not number three receivers for fantasy teams moving forward. But you don't have to prioritize. You don't have to go and get them now. All four of those receivers that have Allen Robinson, all four of those receivers over other guys that we're going to say to cut. Okay. I mean, if I'm that you really would take Richie James over Kadarius, Tony or Wanda Robinson. Yes, we do. They're, they're getting closer. We don't
Starting point is 00:10:41 know what they're going to do. I, my worry with Kadarius is that he's going to play, and then he's going to get hurt again. And it just feels like a headache that I can avoid. And Wondell could be that guy, but he's also just a small, lean guy, has a hard time staying healthy potentially. I like James. I like what I've seen, despite what happened last week. I don't think there's any scenario where Richie James is going to help you win your league.
Starting point is 00:11:06 Wondell Robinson and Kadarius Toney might be those guys. They have much, much, much more upside than Richie James. Richie James is just a small possession receiver. If you get these guys playing at the level that they can potentially play at based on what their pedigree has been, they're difference makers. Richie James is not a difference maker. So you absolutely should prioritize Robinson and Kadarius Toney over Richie James.
Starting point is 00:11:26 How many names have we spoken in the first 10 minutes of this show that is somebody who's going to help you win your league? The words win your league. One of those two guys might be difference makers. Richie James is not a difference maker. He's a better floor player than those guys. None of these guys we're talking about are difference makers. Except maybe George Pickens. This is a better floor player than the guys. None of these guys we're talking about are difference makers, except maybe
Starting point is 00:11:45 Jordan Pickens. This is crazy. No, it's not. No. He has been in his career. Kadarius Toney could be that guy. No, Kadarius Toney's not going to be that guy. At least he has a chance. It's a magical universe where a Giants-wide receiver can stay healthy
Starting point is 00:12:01 and get targets from a great quarterback. I agree, but it's not going to be Kadarius Toney with Daniel Jones. It's going to be Richie James? For what? He's going to help you win your league this year. No, he's a bench. I didn't say he's going to win. No, I know that, but I don't know. I said he's a good bench. Yeah, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:12:17 If you're stashing someone on your bench... I'm not picking Richie James. He's literally fourth on my list of the post-Wednesday. So I don't care if you get him. Yeah, whatever. He's not a priority or anything. the post Wednesday. Yeah. So I don't care if you get, yeah, whatever. Yeah. He's not a priority or anything, but, but there's actually,
Starting point is 00:12:27 there are a lot of guys. I mean, uh, Corey Davis, we haven't spoken about wide receiver, uh, will be an interesting, great.
Starting point is 00:12:33 We should be on the list too. Yeah. We have, so we'll get to all those guys. Now, speaking of the Denver, I know this is the waiver wire show, but the Denver vac backfield,
Starting point is 00:12:41 uh, people want to know, what do you expect here? You know, how high it's a, it's a little dismissive here. I mean, Melvin Gordon, backfield. People want to know, what do you expect here? Sucks. It's a little dismissive here. I mean, Melvin Gordon, this is how I phrased it on yesterday's show. This is how I framed it on yesterday's show.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Melvin Gordon, last two weeks, has been really bad. He had a bad game in week three. Why do I keep forgetting who they played? Oh, San Francisco. Best run defensive football, arguably. And Melvin Gordon had a bad game. And then he was terrible in week four. And obviously he's fumbling.
Starting point is 00:13:08 But if this Javante Williams injury happened in the preseason, or if this Javante Williams injury happened even after week two, where you looked at Melvin Gordon and he still looked like he had some bursts and he had a good roll in the first two games of the year against Seattle and Houston, two of the best matchups, we would be, I think everybody would be, really high on Melvin Gordon. Things have changed over the last two weeks,
Starting point is 00:13:33 and he has had bad weeks. But I think there's an opportunity for him to still be a must-start player here. I want to know how you guys feel about it. Sure. All right, so, Jamie, I'll let you have the first word. Give me your thoughts on the Denver backfield. Where do you rank Melvin Gordon rest of season and Booner Murray? And will they have a role the same way Melvin Gordon has had a role with Javante healthy? I think you should view Gordon as a high end flex with the chance to be a must start running back because the opportunity is there now for him to still reestablish himself as the best running
Starting point is 00:14:01 back in Denver. Talent wise, he's the best running back in Denver. And so, you know, he's got to fix the fumbling issues. You know, he's clearly addressing it in terms of how he's talking to his teammates and talking to the media, and he knows it's a problem. Obviously, the Broncos know it's a problem. And the fact that they sent a message to him, you know, with how they were using him in the game against the Raiders, is pretty telling that they're frustrated with his fumble. Well, as he comes in, he fumbles on his first carry.
Starting point is 00:14:23 But now their hand is forced. If Javante Williams is still there, they can mention, I don't think they're going to keep him off the field for Mike Boone and the 32 year old Latavius Murray. So he's got a chance to run away with this job. If he doesn't, they're going to use a second guy,
Starting point is 00:14:35 no matter what, whether it's Boone or whether it's Murray, I'm going to give a slight nod to Murray because of what Mike Boone's been in his career. He's a good special teams guy. He's not necessarily a guy that profiles as a lead running back. And so he made mistakes in that game too. The drop at the end of the game, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:48 that could have helped extend the drive and maybe they could have scored to keep it interesting against the Raiders, certainly from a gambling perspective. But, you know, could have made the game a little more interesting at the end. I don't think they're probably in love with Mike Boone either. So does Murray have a chance after what he just showed in London to come in and be the lead guy? Maybe. But again, you know, we saw this last year. He looked good at the start of the Baltimore season when he was replacing all the guys that were there. And then he fizzled out because, you know, 31 at the time, not 32. That's just, I think where he's at as a career. So
Starting point is 00:15:17 I'm going to say Gordon's the one and then Murray and Boone in that order will compete to be the two. I don't want to, I don't think Dave is wrong there in saying you don't want to prioritize those guys, but you should absolutely be looking to get them as a second waiver move because what if one of them does become the lead guy there? What if there's an injury to Melvin Gordon who continues to fumble and becomes the lead guy there? Any volume situation is worth having on your fantasy team. And so he's going to be one of the two, Murray or Boone,
Starting point is 00:15:41 is going to be in a potential volume situation. So don't break the bank for any of those guys, but you should certainly be trying to roster them and definitely over Richie James. Okay. I will agree on that. All right, Dave,
Starting point is 00:15:54 anything else you wanted to add there? Melvin Gordon's 29 years old and he can't hold on the football. He's averaging less than three yards per carry in his last two games. They just brought in a 32 year old running back to add depth to their unit. This is a team that's going to end up throwing more. I'm trying to find their pass-run ratio, and I'm coming up short finding it. Oh, just found it. But this is a team that I think is going to become quite pass-heavy moving forward. I think they're going to learn to
Starting point is 00:16:20 not trust these guys. I'd be surprised if any one of them breaks out. Denver's already, um, that they've been a little more run heavy compared to the rest of the league, but I bet that flips. I bet they become a rust centric offense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Melvin could score touchdowns. He could be a good flex. I think that he could benefit if they get pass heavy here. Cause I think he could catch a lot of passes and, or at least, you know, maybe two to three a game, something like that. And I think he could catch a lot of passes or at least maybe two to three a game, something like that.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I think if you're one in three, I think if you're one in three, oh, and four, I think he's a good guy to go after because there are a lot of people that are going to be split on Melvin Gordon. Some people think he sucks and Dave sounds pretty
Starting point is 00:17:03 low on him. There's a big opportunity here for Melvin Gordon. Some people think he sucks, and Dave sounds pretty low on him. There's a big opportunity here for Melvin Gordon. I don't understand the fumbles. Four fumbles in four games is outrageous. He's fumbled three or four times in each of the previous three seasons. And, you know, he's had 11, I think, 11 fumbles in his last three seasons. Now he has four in the first four games. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Probably not going to continue. But, you know, obviously a big opportunity for Melvin Gordon. And like I said, two weeks ago, we would have been over the moon here. Very excited about Melvin Gordon. Dave mentioned he's been under three yards per carry in each of his last two games. He had three carries in one of those games.
Starting point is 00:17:35 So I think, you know, not going to count, not going to hold that against him, but all right. I don't know. I think he's like 4.3 yards per carry this season. He hasn't been great. Their running game hasn't been great this year.
Starting point is 00:17:47 And you know what? Their beat writer in the athletic, sorry, I don't know his name off the top of my head, he said, whoever the running back is, the offensive line is going to have to do a better job. So I guess that's been a bit of a problem for them. Let's see if I can find the quote. No matter who gets the carries for the Broncos on Thursday night, the offensive line will need to perform better in order for denver to establish a running game
Starting point is 00:18:07 that has been inconsistent since the opener against the seahawks oh how about this during the past three weeks the broncos have averaged only 0.75 yards per carry before contact according to true media yeah figure that ranks 27th in the n during that span. So they need better offensive line. Sixth worst. Yeah, Javante was getting 4.3 yards per carry. So he was doing okay. Yeah. All right, guys.
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Starting point is 00:19:06 that Algier would be worth probably north of 20% with the chance that he could not just take the lead role in week five, but maybe the rest of the season. Because we just don't know what the extent of Patterson's injury is. We're hearing everything. It's just a minor procedure. But you never know for a guy that's 31 and at what point the Falcons will be in their season when he comes back. Clearly, they're off to a good start at two and two uh but the two things that that give me a little bit pause for you know going all in on Algiers one again it's not a a full season injury for Patterson but to remember and you've mentioned this quite a bit that in uh in week one they wanted to be a they wanted to have a split between Damian Williams and Patterson and Williams
Starting point is 00:19:46 is a week away from being eligible to return from his rib injury so by week six Williams could be the lead guy there I would like to see Algier because I always like to see the younger player get an opportunity uh but Williams is certainly somebody that should be stashed for this week um if you have an IR spot and probably should have been stashed all along if you have an IR spot just in case you know he did get an opportunity once he's healthy. So now there's a path to it. And so I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:08 Algier 10 to 15%, if you're desperate for running back, maybe a little bit more, but I wouldn't necessarily break the bank for any of these running backs, just because again, it could be a situation where none of them has the lead role on their respective teams. Denver,
Starting point is 00:20:21 we just talked about, and now the Falcon, same thing. Dave, if you saw George Pickens, he's 63% rostered, maybe Robert Woods with the Traylon Burks injury. So there's another wide receiver in there. Tyler Boyd is in that range.
Starting point is 00:20:35 Would you spend more than 20% of your fab on any player this week, specifically the wide receivers? No, and that includes Pickens. If I thought Pickens was a surefire league winner then i would but i will if it's all i'll let me amend it if it's a keeper league then i would but he wouldn't be on the waiver wire in a keeper league right so that that's the nice thing about this week is that you shouldn't have to burn through too much of your fab and yet there's still enough talent out there, especially a receiver, where you can get some players that you'll like.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Okay. So, all right. All right, then. That's your fab discussion, not breaking the bank on anybody. Dave, I'll let you lead this since you brought up some of these guys earlier. But if you're in deep leagues, I want to address something real quick here. One of the comments I see a lot is, George Pickens isn't available in any of my leagues.
Starting point is 00:21:31 What are you guys playing? Stop, please, with that stuff. You sounded like Rodney Dangerfield there. George, my waiver doesn't get any respect. Anyway, to stop with that stuff, we do it based on anyone who's rostered in fewer than 65% of leagues. Anyway, to start with that stuff, we do it based on... It's so bad, it's good.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Anyone who's rostered in fewer than 65% of leagues is... We give you the shallow league guys too, like Jared Goff could be available in shallow leagues. But I look at the other websites and these players are rostered in a lot fewer leagues on ESPN because I think most ESPN leagues are 10-team leagues. I think there are more 10-team leagues on Yahoo as well. So a lot of fantasy managers are making these decisions. In fact, they're deciding between maybe Dak Pres available in your league. He's available in a lot of leagues. CBS leagues, he's available in 37%, and on other sites, it's even more. But in terms of the deep league guys, you know, the Richie Jameses of the world,
Starting point is 00:22:32 but the Zay Jones of the world, because he'll be back, it looks like, this week. And who headlines that list, Dave? Who would you look for in deep leagues? I would start with... See, here's the thing. I don't know if Isaiah McKenzie is going to be ready to go. He seemed
Starting point is 00:22:47 okay jogging off the field last week when he got concussed. If he passes through protocol, if we knew he was going to be ready to go, I'd make him the priority ahead of Zay. Is he a deep league guy? He's 47%. Yeah, he's 47%. He's too rostered. Well, Zay Jones
Starting point is 00:23:03 is available in 6% more leagues than Isaiah McKenzie. Oh, okay. I thought he was deeper. Why don't we begin the conversation with Josh Reynolds, who's available in over 80% of leagues? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think less than 20% of CBS Sports Leagues is a good... I thought... I didn't realize Zay Jones was as rostered as he was. I'm sorry about that.
Starting point is 00:23:21 If you want to go more shallow, more deeper leagues, you want to look at Alec Pierce. He's starting to better and the options in the passing game, you absolutely should look at Wanda Robinson. He's at less than 10% of leagues on for the giants. And he's the guy that this regime drafted. You should look at Rondell Moore who played more than Greg Dorch and probably has an opportunity to be better than Greg Dorch because he was
Starting point is 00:23:38 expected to be better than Greg Dorch. He's at 28%. If you're looking at running backs, you know, the, the two guys in Denver Latavious Murray and Alec alec um and mike boone excuse me are at zero percent uh philip lindsey you want to take a flyer on him or deon jackson depending on who can get that job there that's both zero percent uh for those two guys so that those could be options uh josh reynolds at 19 percent cory davis that's the guy that zach wilson just seemed to love he's at 24 so he could be available in a lot of leagues uh one guy that we haven't mentioned because we don't know the extent of the injury devin duvarnay may end up being the number one receiver for the the ravens if this injury for rashad bateman lingers and he's at 20 excuse me
Starting point is 00:24:14 38 so he's a little bit more rostered than some of these other players but um if he's the lead guy for for the ravens for however long um you've seen the the touchdown potential and now maybe we get a few more out or targets his direction. So there's another guy. If there is no Zay Jones back this week, Jamal Agnew just showed you that that's a guy that they'll lean on, and he's available in 100% of leagues. So he's somebody that you should put on your radar as well.
Starting point is 00:24:37 And then you want other positions too, or just retreat? No, that's fine. I mean, that's fine. Okay, well, we have a lot more show to get to here, but I got to tell you about my Indochino suit. Oh, sad day yesterday. I had to take it to the dry cleaners. Don't have my Indochino suit until Saturday when it comes back from the dry cleaners, but I don't think I'll need it. But get yourself an Indochino suit. Get yourself a suit that you love wearing. It's really important, okay? A suit that you're fired up to put on. You customize
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Starting point is 00:26:30 All right, Traylon Burke's out indefinitely with turf toe. Rashad Bateman has a midfoot injury. Keenan Allen, day-to-day. Josh Palmer. That doesn't sound good. A midfoot injury? Yeah, it almost sounds like a Liz Frank. And he was in a walking boot after the game all right the call on devin duvernay is a good one yeah uh keenan allen day
Starting point is 00:26:53 to day and josh palmer i was so disappointed in i did not realize that he got hurt in week four is he i haven't seen any updates on him but he didn't play that much i hope he's back because i believe he came back in the game, but yeah, he did limp off the field at one point. He missed a lot of time. He's great for Gerald Everett and obviously Michael. Oh, sorry, Jamie. He missed a lot of time. I think that's why Josh Palmer stunk, but he's usually good without
Starting point is 00:27:17 Keenan Allen. He usually plays 90% of the snaps. T. Higgins has an ankle injury, but he should be fine. Isaiah McKenzie, concussion protocol. Jahan Dotson's out one to two weeks with a hamstring injury. I'll ask you ankle injury, but he should be fine. Isaiah McKenzie concussion protocol. Jahan Dotson's out one to two weeks with a hamstring injury. I'll ask you this later, but how about right now? Uh,
Starting point is 00:27:31 no Jahan Dotson this week. And Tennessee is arguably the worst team against tight ends so far. Any interest in Logan Thomas on the waiver wire? Sure. Streaming option. Uh, Gus Edwards is going to start practicing. Should we be adding Gus Edwards if we don't have an IR spot?
Starting point is 00:27:48 No, not yet. But clearly, Kenyon Drake and Mike Davis are not getting the job done, and Justice Hill's not hurt. Something to keep an eye on there. Brian Robinson could be back this week. He's not available in a ton of leagues, but if he is, get him. Russell Wilson, questionable but expected to play. Don't know about Daniel Jones or Tyrod Taylor right now as the Giants are in London facing Green Bay.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Tuatunga Bailoa is out this week. It'll be Teddy Bridgewater at the Jets. And then maybe more for Teddy Bridgewater. Sam Darnold is eligible to return but still not close to returning. And you got to think he has a decent chance of being their quarterback with the way Baker Mayfield's played. Shaquille Leonard on Thursday's game. He'sfield's played. Shaquille Leonard on Thursday's game. He's out this week. Shaquille Leonard
Starting point is 00:28:28 for the Colts. Big thing there for the Colts, their run defense has been so good, but DeForest Buckner played just 35% of the snaps in week four, and they struggled against the run for the first time, so we've got to keep an eye on him. He'll probably play. I don't know how healthy he'll be.
Starting point is 00:28:44 Jacksonville lost a starting defensive tackle, Foley Fatukasi, and they struggled against the run against Philadelphia. We'll see if he can come back. Defensive end Randy Gregory for the Denver Broncos, he could end up on IR. Noah Brown got a good report on his injured neck. And both San Francisco and the Rams lost starting offensive lineman last night. For the Niners, it was their backup left tackle who was starting in place of Trent Williams. So they're on to their third left tackle. Top three priorities at each position. Dave, give me the quarterbacks to prioritize this week. It's a week-to-week deal. None of these guys are going to help you rest of season.
Starting point is 00:29:26 My favorite is Geno Smith. I love the way that he's been playing at least 20 fantasy points in three of his four games. The matchup gets tougher this week against New Orleans. There's no doubt, but I think he's making the most of playing with DK and with Lockett, and they're letting him throw.
Starting point is 00:29:41 He's doing a good job, so I don't see that changing. Tannehill's my second favorite one on the list. Garoppolo is third. They are all available in at least 50% of leagues. You might be able to convince me on Bridgewater over Garoppolo. I just, I like the matchup for Garoppolo against Carolina. Bridgewater gets the jets. All right. So that's Geno Smith against the Saints, and Smith has been playing very well, and he's completing 77% of his passes. Ryan Tannehill gets... Bizarro world.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Yeah, Ryan Tannehill gets Washington. He's Bizarro Russell Wilson. It's weird, and people, you know, Seattle, I've been just reading a little bit about it this morning. People seem pretty sold on it. I think it's probably a little premature, but he is also number one for you, Jamie. So Dave said these are week-to-week guys.
Starting point is 00:30:25 He said Smith, Ryan Tannehill against Washington, Jimmy Garoppolo against Carolina, and Teddy Bridgewater would be fourth. Do you, Jamie, think Geno Smith has staying power and can help us all year? Yeah, I mean, not as a must-start guy in a 10- or 12-team league, but certainly in a 14-team league
Starting point is 00:30:43 and in deeper 12-team formats. I mean, think about where Matthew Stafford is right now, you know, and his struggles and what his offensive line looks like and some of the matchup he has coming up. You know, Gino's doing what we wanted Russ to do for the last couple of years. You know, he's leaning on his two top receivers. He's, he made plays with his legs last week, 49 rushing yards is impressive. He can do that. We know he's got that in his, you know, his arsenal uh not to that level on a week-to-week basis but you
Starting point is 00:31:08 know 15 to 20 rushing yards he gives you an extra point or two that's a that's a nice thing so yeah i don't i don't mind gino smith right now he's been one of the best surprises so far this season i would put kenny pickett third um you know with the upside of what he can be you know there's another guy that we know is going to use his legs. Terrible matchup this week, clearly, but he's somebody that I know. I'm in a couple leagues where I'm struggling a quarterback where I have Stafford. One league where I lost Trey Lance
Starting point is 00:31:34 and the waiver wire is bare. I'm going to make a play for Kenny Pickett to be my second quarterback with the hopes that he can be the third guy. I have no interest in Jimmy Garoppolo whatsoever. This is a guy that's never averaged 20 fantasy points per game in his career and is averaging 12 and a half points per game his last two weeks. So he's somebody that I'd be cutting if you have him in one quarterback league.
Starting point is 00:31:54 I'd have more interest in Teddy with the chance that he's good in the Dolphins offense. And then if you want to talk week to week, Bailey zappy baby against his lions i mean there's a chance for um for him to fall into 20 fantasy points uh knowing how bad the lions have been so um if you're just you know a desperate two quarterback super flex league and we don't get mac jones and we don't get uh brian hoyer if i'm the patriots i don't even bother with brian hoyer at this point i'd rather just play that great um and so he could be he could be an interesting option you know if you option if you're stuck, and he's available in 100% of the league.
Starting point is 00:32:29 And don't forget about Andy Dalton and Jameis. Just on the topic. Yeah, either one. But it's a little clouded just because of the scenario of will Winston play. If Winston does play, yeah, it's a great matchup. If Winston doesn't play Dalton, same thing. You know, I think, you know, you asked the question about spending your FAB budget. Two quarterback super flex leagues, people are going to spend some money, you know, because
Starting point is 00:32:53 there are guys that are now available. We don't know how long Tua's out. So Teddy's going to go for, you know, probably I'll say at least 15 to 25% of your budget, depending on what your situation looks like. Zappi, because of your, of your budget, depending on what your, what your situation looks like. Um, Zappy because of his matchup should get some interest. Obviously pickets, not roster across the board. You know,
Starting point is 00:33:10 I, I usually look at it. I can be wrong. This is my gauge. Anybody that's rostered in fewer than 30% of our leagues. I think there's some chance that they could be available in 10 team to QB or super flex leagues. Um, so those guys could potentially be available.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Even Gino, you know, who's at 24%, you know, people might not even be buying in. So there's a chance that these guys could be helpful for you. And if they are, you know, we saw Heath in our league. You know, granted, it's a little bit deeper, 12-team league. He spent 100% of his fab budget on Jimmy Garoppolo. That's extreme. But there are people that could be in those type of situations
Starting point is 00:33:44 that you don't have a good second quarterback. Trey Lance was your guy. Your other That's extreme. But there are people that could be in those type of situations that you don't have a good second quarterback. Trey Lance was your guy. Your other guy's struggling. You may be stuck. Quick word on Geno Smith. Just as far as the subject of staying power, can he be your guy the rest of the season? I'm looking at his schedule now. And after this
Starting point is 00:34:00 match against New Orleans, I'll just give you the next four games. Arizona, the Chargers, the Giants, Arizona. I mean, it doesn't get that hard. He's got a game at Tampa Bay. He's got a game against the Rams. Week 17, fantasy championships. He's got the Jets at home. There's some really, really favorable matchups for him for the majority of the year that I think you can kind of maybe buy
Starting point is 00:34:28 into a little bit. So if you need a quarterback, Jamie said it, I say it. I think he's the top guy to get. And maybe there is some staying power. Maybe this isn't just a week to week deal with them. All right, let's get some names. We probably talked about this already, but Jamie, who are the top waiver wire priorities at running back? Yeah, for me, it's Algier one. But, you know, when you see the column on CBS Sports dot com, you're going to see I have the Falcons guys in one blurb together. So the priority list could be a little bit different depending on how we're going to phrase it here. But Algier would be one.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Latavious Murray would be two. And Rashad White would be one. Latavius Murray would be two. And Rashad White would be three. Now, that being said, I have no problem if you want to take White first to avoid the mess and just have somebody that you're stashing if you don't need to start any of these guys. But I think Algier has an opportunity to take the lead role for the Falcons. But Damian Williams should be factored in. Caleb Huntley should be factored in. For the Broncos, Mike Boone should be factored in. So it's a little bit of a mess.
Starting point is 00:35:22 But the top three guys would be the situation in Atlanta, being Tyler Algier is the lead option. The situation in Denver, I'll give the slight lean toward Latavius Murray and then Rashad White. And I have Mark Ingram fourth. I don't think fantasy managers should forget about him because if Alvin Kamara is out and it's Mark Ingram and Tony Jones and Dwayne Washington, Mark Ingram will get a great opportunity
Starting point is 00:35:44 against Seattle and could be a difference maker for this week. I picked up Ingram in a couple leagues Sunday morning because I was paying attention, unlike Adam. I'm not dropping Mark Ingram this week unless there's somebody absolutely fantastic on the way around. I was paying attention.
Starting point is 00:36:01 I was saying, if you're in California or something like that, and it's 6.30 in the morning, and Kamara is a surprise inactive, I felt bad for you. Okay. Wide receivers, Dave, the top three priorities. You say surprise inactive. It's not like it's two minutes before the game starts.
Starting point is 00:36:16 The news came out two hours before that. But that was 4.30 in the morning in California. The people were sleeping, obviously. Yes, but if you have any. Look, I appreciate our audience, which is why they're saying that George Pickens isn't available in their leagues because these are serious fantasy players. The people that typically play on our site
Starting point is 00:36:34 because of how the payment structure is for our leagues are typically serious fantasy players. I understand for the casual fantasy player that doesn't necessarily want to wake up at 4.30 in the morning or 6.30 in the morning to check their lineups. But if you know that you have a player that has some semblance of an issue,
Starting point is 00:36:51 you got to be aware of that. Set the alarm. You can go back to sleep. Look, I wasn't saying blanket statement, let someone make a move. I was just saying that it's understandable. And if your league wanted to operate that way, I think it would be understandable.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Okay, anyway, George Pickens. it's understandable. And if your league wanted to operate that way, I think it would be, it would be understandable. Okay. Anyway, George Pickens, uh, George Pickens, I'm assuming is number one at wide receiver among like, like what if I know Michael Gallup is technically over the 65% threshold, but if they're both available,
Starting point is 00:37:17 cause they're rostered in almost the same amount of leagues, Gallup and, uh, and Tyler Boyd for that matter. Uh, and Robert Woods, uh, who do you, and George Pickens. Okay. How about those four right there for, for that matter, and Robert Woods. And George Pickens.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Okay, how about those four right there for the shallower leagues? Woods, Pickens, Gallup, and Boyd. How would you rank them, Dave? Pickens, Gallup. I think I'd go Boyd next over Woods just because I think I like him better this week, but it's close between the two of them. I know that no Traylon Burks being there is something
Starting point is 00:37:49 that's going to make people excited about Robert Woods, but it's still Robert Woods, and it's still the Titans. Okay. It is Washington this week, though. And after that, Dave, who are the top? I think Washington gives up the most fantasy points to receivers. They are obviously just terrible. Who are the top? I think this, I think Washington gives up the most fantasy points to receivers.
Starting point is 00:38:05 I mean, they are obviously just terrible. Who are the top priorities after George Pickens? And I really want to talk more about Pickens. We'll do it later. Cause I've got to get to some tight end. I haven't mentioned any tight ends, DSTs or kickers or anything,
Starting point is 00:38:16 but the schedule just really sucks for him. But a wide receiver after that, Dave, who else would you be looking at? Josh Reynolds would be at the top of the list, and he's available in 81% of leagues. It seems like he's here to stay, not to this degree, not to what he's done the last two weeks,
Starting point is 00:38:34 where he's given you at least 15 PPR points, but he'll play a good amount in this Lions offense, and they're moving the ball. They're a good offense. That offensive line's doing a great job. So he would be number one for me if he can't get Pickens. Darnell Mooney is on the same threshold as Pickens. You can look to see if he's available. I think what Jamie said made sense about Devin DuVernay.
Starting point is 00:38:55 He's available in 62% of leagues. He feels a little touchdown needy to me, but still, at minimum, a good bench receiver who you might be able to start this week against Cincinnati. Corey Davis would be after that. Okay. Jamie, we have not talked about, talked about tight ends. That is my fault. Who are the tight ends to look at this week?
Starting point is 00:39:15 Good call. Logan Thomas. I'll add him to the list. I don't know why Tyler Conklin continues to get overlooked. I didn't have a monster game against the Steelers in the first game with Zach Wilson, but he still had over 50 yards receiving. He's still not going away.
Starting point is 00:39:29 And so while he might not finish as a top five tight end, he still has the opportunity to finish as a top 12 tight end. So 58% roster is a little bit silly in my mind just because of what he's been so far to start the season. Robert Tunyon, we said it two weeks ago, he had seven targets, six catches. Two games ago, scored a touchdown last week. It feels like there's something coming for him, you know, a bigger role,
Starting point is 00:39:52 bigger opportunity. Didn't have a lot of targets, but as he's getting healthier, I think Aaron Rodgers will start to lean on him a little bit more. So he's another guy that should be rostered. And I do think that Taysom Hill is going to be a cheat code because of what he's going to do at tight end. And so, especially if Jameis remains out there's a situation at play here where if Jameis and this back injury lingers and they're and they're going to be cautious with him which they might
Starting point is 00:40:14 and Dalton gets knocked out and he's playing quarterback we are right back to where we were you know two years ago um I think it was two years ago with uh the other leagues we didn't do this but the other leagues that had him listed as a tight end only and he was able to play quarterback so it could be uh it could be a cheat code for you there and then there's a couple you know deeper league options molly cox you know maybe builds up what he did last week although it's been you know two weeks ago jelani woods last week was molly cox um you know the the colts are just struggling to find weapons in the passing game and then if if the concussion situation lingers for cameron bray k dot and i, would be the guy
Starting point is 00:40:46 that could have some opportunities there for Tampa Bay. Not a 10- or 12-team league type of guy, but a 14-team league guy or deeper and tight end premium leagues as well. Here's the thing on Taysom Hill. I don't think it's just a Jameis thing. What if Kamara's out again?
Starting point is 00:41:02 He's basically a running back. You can play quarterback. I'm just talking about the ability that he would play quarterback for the majority of the game. You're right. He's going to get opportunities now, but in the event that they're stuck without Jameis and without Dalton, and he's
Starting point is 00:41:18 the guy for them like he was last year, look out. Agreed. But even if Dalton's healthy, which I think he will be coming into this game, they're playing Seattle. And they're terrible. Yeah. So there's all kinds of opportunities for Taysom Hill there.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Yeah. But let's address this situation. What would happen on CBS if Taysom Hill became a mid-game quarterback? You would obviously get the points at tight end. But if he became the starting quarterback the next week, what would happen? What would we do? I believe what we would do is give him, and commissioners already have
Starting point is 00:41:50 the power to give position eligibility to whoever they want in their league. But I believe we would give him quarterback eligibility. We would not take away tight end eligibility. We would not. We would allow people to play him at tight end because I think we did not do that. I don't think we're in the business of taking away eligibility for people. We would not. We would allow people to play him at tight end because I think we did not do that.
Starting point is 00:42:05 I don't think we're in the business of taking away eligibility for people. We had a lot of discussion about him during the offseason. We even got the Saints involved just to see what should we do because I kind of thought he shouldn't even be a tight end.
Starting point is 00:42:21 He's not used as a traditional tight end. He's basically a running back who can throw a little bit and they trust him enough to do it. But when they had Andy Dalton, it made it pretty clear that they didn't want to really make Taysom Hill their plan B at quarterback in case things went wrong with James Winston. So we thought that the best avenue to go would be make him a tight end to start and then if he does end up playing quarterback, and that's in the situation where Andy Dalton gets hurt, Jameis isn't available and they make him their quarterback. That's when we'd give him QB eligibility. But I don't,
Starting point is 00:42:55 I'm not, there's a brain trust here at CBS that would make this decision. It doesn't come down to me or the three of us. Um, but I don't think we've ever taken away a player's position eligibility before in a season. And I don't think we would do it now. Okay. I don't think that when he became the quarterback that people were allowed to start him at tight end because it made everyone crazy. We didn't have him listed as a tight end.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Oh, okay. Oh, okay. That was the difference. Right. Okay. It wasn't our league. Right, right, right. Right. The other leagues had him as a tight end. Oh, okay. Oh, okay. That was the difference. Right. Okay. Right, right, right. Others tied him as a tight end.
Starting point is 00:43:27 And the Saints themselves didn't list him as a tight end on their website until after training camp this year. Our conversations with the Saints via, it was through their media representatives to their coaches was, is he really going to
Starting point is 00:43:43 play tight end or is he going to have the same role? And they didn't want to give out that information to us because they consider that confidential information. They said, no, he's a quarterback for now, but we still didn't really view him because everybody else was looking at him as a tight end and we thought that we'd get a number of complaints and we thought we'd be wrong if we didn't list him as a tight end to begin the season. And then when the Saints did list him as a tight end,
Starting point is 00:44:08 that justified everything. It was easier to say, okay, he's a tight end. You can use him as a tight end in fantasy. All right, let's move on here. DSTs, Jamie, DSTs and kickers. I like the Vikings this week. I think they have a good opportunity to, you know, hopefully play a little bit better than they have been.
Starting point is 00:44:25 But, you know, the Bears clearly are not going to scare a lot of teams. They're not going to throw on a lot of teams. And, you know, I think this is a good matchup for them. The Dolphins against the Jets, you know, we'll see what Xavier Howard's status is. But I still think they'll be aggressive enough and maybe force Zach Wilson some turnovers. And the Jaguars' defense against the Texans.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Jaguars obviously struggled against the Eagles, but they're widely available in the Texans. I think they can force Davis Bills into a turnover, too. Kickers? Oh, the kickers, I'm sorry. The kickers would be Will Lutz, home game against the Seahawks. You got Brett Maher, who's coming off a good game, taking on the Rams, and Graham Gonneau, who's the Giants MVP,
Starting point is 00:45:06 according to Adam, taking on Packers in London. Maybe we get another couple 60-yard field goal attempts. Maybe. All right, so by the way, the Jacksonville DST against Houston, they actually ended up with a good game against the Eagles because they had a defensive touchdown, but they got shredded.
Starting point is 00:45:23 But yeah, they've been pretty good this year, and they get Houston. So let me recap. The top priorities at each position, a quarterback, Geno Smith. You could look at Ryan Tannehill. Dave likes Garoppolo. Jamie, not so much.
Starting point is 00:45:34 You could look at Teddy Bridgewater. Kenny Pickett, maybe more of a long-term thing. You're not going to start him this week against the Bills. But Geno Smith is the prize here. Would you start Geno Smith or Matthew Stafford this week? Gino Smith. I would also be interested in the Saints starting quarterback this week against Seattle.
Starting point is 00:45:54 I don't know who it's going to be, but I think you guys would be relatively interested as well. I don't know where you'd rank him. The problem is Dalton played really well for the most part. You know, 236-1. He's going to lose a touchdown or a goal-line opportunity to Taysom. That's the problem. Can he get to the second touchdown?
Starting point is 00:46:13 At running back, we're looking at Tyler Algier. We're looking at either Latavius Murray or Mike Boone. Jamie favors Murray. Rashad White and Mark Ingram would have a great opportunity this week if Alvin Kamara is out again. If you don't plan on starting Tyler Algier over the next four weeks, and we've made a pretty big case against,
Starting point is 00:46:30 you know, why you should be aggressive, you know, then maybe you just look at Rashad White or Mark Ingram and have a high-end backup there. And Isaiah Pacheco. Oh, Pacheco, yeah, yeah. He's got two games so far this season with double digits and carries. He's over five yards per carry in both of them.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Tight end Tyler Conklin, Robert Tunyon, and Taysom Hill. Wide receiver. There's a group of wide receivers who are rostered in about 65% of CBS Sports leagues. They are George Pickens, Michael Gallup, Robert Woods, and Tyler Boyd. You could look at them if they're not available. Josh Reynolds, Devin Duvernay, Corey Davis, and there
Starting point is 00:47:00 are more to discuss as well. We'll get to that. DST's Minnesota against the Bears, Miami against the Jets, Jacksonville against Houston, and there were some kickers mentioned too. We'll take a break. When we come back, San Francisco and the Rams recap 24 to 9.
Starting point is 00:47:13 We'll be back to talk about that and give you even more names to know for the waiver wire and also talk about starts and sits. I mean, do you pick up Tyler Conklin and sit Kyle Pitts or do you sit George Kittle? You know, we'll talk about that
Starting point is 00:47:24 when we come back on Fantasy Football today. Welcome back, everybody. Let's look at last night's game real quick here. Rams moved the ball pretty well. They had the ball for nine more minutes than San Francisco, but the Rams cannot beat the 49ers unless it's the championship game.
Starting point is 00:47:41 So San Francisco 24, Rams 9. How concerned are we about Matthew Stafford going forward, Dave? That is now three games with 10.2 or fewer fantasy points. That's not good. So definitely cause for concern. You're going to probably only start him when he's got a favorable matchup. Let me tell you what his favorable matchups are over the next five or six weeks.
Starting point is 00:48:07 He's got Dallas this week. I don't think that's favorable. I think the Cowboys defense is playing great. He's got Carolina at home in week six. That's a get right game for him. Then they're on by. Then they play the 49ers again and the Bucks the week after. These are matchups where that offensive line is going to be a problem for Stafford.
Starting point is 00:48:25 And eventually teams are going to have to figure out a way to really just deter him from throwing a Cooper cup. You'd think that it would have happened right now, but good luck with that. The difference is, is that in this game, he had cup had 19 targets, 14 catches, didn't average 10 yards per catch. So what, what they were doing was saying, all all right if cup's going to beat us he's not going to beat us deep and i wonder if that's going to be part of the strategy that defense is used moving forward is you can throw it a cup all day long if you want to same thing with higby you're just not going to get a lot of yards after
Starting point is 00:49:01 that and they just sit on those guys. It worked on the pick six? Yeah. Yeah, really did. Yeah, it's a shame. I mean, the offensive line, teams with great pass rushes, you're going to have to really, really reconsider with Stafford, and that's what he's facing again this week. Cam Akers or Daryl Henderson rest of season, Jamie?
Starting point is 00:49:20 Cam Akers. I think as long as he's healthy, he'll be the guy there. Again, it's a similar situation. If they're facing tough defense, it's going to be hard to trust either one of those guys. So this will be an interesting week. The Cowboys' pass rush is certainly much more impressive than their run defense, although their run defense has been good. So I don't know if it's go back to Cam Akers as a starter,
Starting point is 00:49:41 but I'd rather have him on my team than Darrell Henderson. I think I agree. Henderson, we know that he breaks down. Akers does too. But it did feel like Akers regressed. Because last week I thought he looked great, and this week he looked like 2021 playoff Cam Akers, and that's not a good look.
Starting point is 00:49:59 It's the best run defense in football. And it was Henderson who was playing a lot down the stretch. Right. I know. But it was Henderson. The fourth quarter, Henderson played 22 of 24 snaps. So maybe that just means that they're going true hot hand and whoever they think is even a little bit better is who's going to play in the fourth quarter.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Do you drop Cam Akers or Daryl Henderson for Tyler Algier or Latavius Murray or Mike Boone? No. Maybe Henderson. All right. It depends on how desperate you are for a running back in week five. Do you drop Alan Robinson for...
Starting point is 00:50:33 I always forget his stinking name. Yes. The guy I dropped Justin Jefferson for two years ago. His name is Ryan Suckup. You can drop him for Ryan Suckup. Oh, it's so bad. All right. Drop him for Cairo Santos.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Tyler Higbee is awesome. You start him. He was only started in 37% of leagues. He's clearly their number two guy. On the other side of the ball, I don't know. Is there much to say here about the 49ers, Jamie? You had Debo Samuel. I tweeted it.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I reverse jinxed him. He had fewer than 15 PPR fantasy points in all three games going into last night. That was as many times as he did that last year. So basically three times all of last year where he scored fewer than 15 points. He had already done that this year in three games. And then he had a couple of huge plays.
Starting point is 00:51:20 But Deebo was great. What about IUK? Do you see a reason to hold IUK? He's 90% rostered. I didn't like IUK going into this week, but I would still hold him. He did have a target to the previous two games. And so, you know, in a game, I think,
Starting point is 00:51:33 where they're chasing points, I don't think it'll be the case this week against Carolina. But where they're forced to throw a little bit more, I think we'll see a little bit more attention for Brandon IUK. But no, he is not a must-hold guy. You know, I think you'll regret probably dropping him in a week or two when he does pop off for a big game. But this is still a run-first team.
Starting point is 00:51:50 This is still a scenario where Kittle's been struggling. Debo hasn't exactly been making a ton of plays prior to last night as a pass catcher. And Aiyuk is not necessarily, I think, going to be consistent right now. They're still trying to figure out their offensive line as well. You know, replacing Trent Williams. They had some interior offensive line concerns last night also. So, you know, they'll, they'll, I think, get sort of settled to who's getting the ball when and where. So I, you still should be, in my opinion, rostered.
Starting point is 00:52:14 But if you have pickings is available, you know, you want to pivot to any of these other guys because you think they have more upside, go ahead. But I would prefer to hold Brandon. Time to take a look at some more players on the waiver wire here, starting with quarterback. And let's talk about Jared Goff, if he is available. He's 80% rostered, and he just scored 41 fantasy points. That's two monster games against two of the worst defenses in football, Seattle and Washington.
Starting point is 00:52:39 A respectable game against the Eagles, 19.5 fantasy points and 15.9 fantasy points at Minnesota. So, great start to the season for Goff. Does he have staying power, Dave? Do you think Goff is a must-roster player? No, I don't think he's a must-roster, but I think he's a potentially good starter this week.
Starting point is 00:52:58 It's the Patriots. I am a little worried about Belichick having a game plan for Goff, and if he doesn't have St. Brown, I think it'll be a little bit harder. So I don't love him, but I think he's okay if you're looking for him and he's out there. I wouldn't use him in DFS. I think
Starting point is 00:53:13 the whole world will be on him in DFS. Yeah, I think the problem is if you think New England is a tough matchup, I don't know if they are, but they're not a good matchup. And then he's got to buy, and then he has Dallas. So it's not a great upcoming schedule for Goff. I think the setups you want to play Jared Goff. First of all, I would roster Jared Goff for the rest of the season.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I think the scenarios you want to play Jared Goff, home game, explosive offense on the other side. These two situations don't bear that out. The Patriots, while they'll score on the Lions, they're not going to put up 50 points in the way that you'll see Jared Goff having to play like he played this past game. The Patriots will be a methodical, run the ball down their
Starting point is 00:53:51 throat type of game. But I think this is not going to be a game where the Patriots, because of how they play, Goff is down three touchdowns in the second half, unless he has another pick six or so. But you see where that goes in terms of his scoring. I don't think we have to talk too much about the quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:54:07 We laid it out for you. It's Geno Smith as the top guy to get this week, even though he's against the Saints. I mean, this week, I can make an easy case for Dalton or Winston against Seattle or Tannehill against Washington or even Bridgewater with, against the jets, which are they starting?
Starting point is 00:54:28 Are you starting them over Gino Smith or is Smith the highest ranked in that group this week? Uh, I would start Tannehill over Gino. I would start if, if, if there's some clarity with the saints quarterback situation, I might consider it.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Um, I think Gino max is out probably about 20 points. You know, that's what he did in his first tough matchup against the Broncos. You know, so give him credit for that. So, you know, I don't know if there's a huge ceiling for Geno Smith this week, especially Saints back home after a loss. You know, you've got to figure that that building will be rowdy.
Starting point is 00:54:56 So, but really for me with the approach with the quarterback position, the two guys that I have listed at the top are Geno and Pickett. I think long-term they have some staying power. If you're looking week-to-week, Tannehill would be the best one. Running backs. By the way, what do you think about Carson Wentz this week? Two great
Starting point is 00:55:16 games, two bad games against Philadelphia and Dallas. It's going to give a lot of people trouble here, but he gets Tennessee. Now it's Tennessee. What do you think? They've allowed at least 22 fantasy points to each of the last three quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I'm nervous. I'm nervous. No, I originally had him as somebody to drop, but this week he could definitely play well. Yeah, I'm so sorry about the internet issues
Starting point is 00:55:40 that I'm having today, folks. I don't know what's going on, but it's wreaked havoc on the show. Would you drop Carson Wentz for Geno Smith or Ryan Tannehill? I would definitely drop him for Tannehill to start this week if Wentz has been my starter,
Starting point is 00:55:51 and I would definitely drop him for Geno to be my backup if that's the case on my fantasy team as well. You can drop Wentz. All right. Running backs. You could look for Naeem Hines, 75% rostered. You can look for Brian Robinson, 73% rostered, and Raheem Mostert at 67%. A lot of people are going to have a tough
Starting point is 00:56:11 decision to make on Brian Robinson, who's been taking up an IR spot, and you might have to activate him maybe this week. Where do you think Robinson is rest of season? I think he can be a low- end number two fantasy running back rest of season where he can have some surprise weeks and big weeks. And then a lot of games where he's right around 14 carries and they're, they're pretty empty. I don't love the state of the Washington offensive line right now. I don't know how long until that gets even a little bit better for them,
Starting point is 00:56:43 but that this is a team that wants to run the football and he's their type of running back north, south, physical, all that stuff. Short yardage goal line guy. He, I think he's got some good potential.
Starting point is 00:56:56 I don't think he's, he's going to flub as long as he stays healthy. So you'd rather roster Brian Robinson than Tyler Algier. Yes. How about Raheem Mostert roster Brian Robinson than Tyler Algier? Yes. How about Raheem Mostert or Brian Robinson? Robinson. How about Raheem Mostert or Tyler Algier or Latavius Murray? If you're asking me, I'll take Algier over Mostert.
Starting point is 00:57:21 I'll probably take Mostert over Latavius Murray. But anybody that's got a chance to have some significant role the rest of the season, I'll put out of Mostert because you know the deal with Mostert. He gets hurt very easily. They're probably going to press him into their main running down role in Miami. Who knows how long that lasts.
Starting point is 00:57:42 Okay. He's got two games so far this season with double digits and carries. In both those games, he's got at least 75 total yards. The problem is that he's losing touchdowns to Chase Edmonds. I know they've given him some touchdown opportunities. He just hasn't converted them. He's losing touchdowns to Chase Edmonds. He's probably not going to get a lot of
Starting point is 00:57:57 opportunities in passing down situations. You're getting some empty work there. Still, if something happens to Edmonds, then maybe his his role does increase but it's not a he's not a must add or a mustache but i don't know if he's on my team if i'm gonna drop him either okay and then what do you think about getting philip lindsey or dion jackson any interest there not for me so what i what i would do is it's more of a deep league situation um i think it's it's it's sort of similar to the broncos scenario because we just
Starting point is 00:58:24 don't know what they're going to do because the Colts have a guy, whether they use Naeem Hines in that lead role or not, we'll find out. The Broncos still have a guy in Melvin Gordon. The difference is
Starting point is 00:58:34 there's a clear absence in Denver without Javante Williams there. I think the thing that you can hope for is that because the game is on Thursday, you're going to get a practice report on Tuesday
Starting point is 00:58:42 for the Colts. And if Jonathan Taylor is out probably as expected, at limited at best, then you could take a flyer on one of the two guys. I just give a slight lean toward Lindsey because of his experience. It could be Deion Jackson, and I wish I had an answer for you, so I apologize. But I think if you get to Wednesday and both those guys are unclaimed
Starting point is 00:59:00 and you find out Jonathan Taylor is out, then you race to your waiver wire and hopefully you can pick up one of them with the hope that you get potential flex option. Again, we're talking deeper leagues at most. They're probably not going to be good because Denver's run defense is good and Taylor has struggled behind his offensive line. So keep that in mind. But again,
Starting point is 00:59:16 we know volume matters in some cases. You might not have another option to pivot to in a deeper format. Wide receivers. We've talked a lot about the top four that are rostered in more than 60% of leagues. Pickens, Gallup, Woods,
Starting point is 00:59:30 and Boyd. Josh Reynolds. Yeah. I mean, if Amon or St. Brown is going to play this week, where are you going to rank Josh Reynolds? If St.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Brown plays. Low end number three, high end number four receiver, better in PPR. Okay. Josh Reynolds if St. Brown plays? Low-end number three, high-end number four receiver, better in PPR. Okay. If, Dave, if Rashad Bateman does not play against the Bengals, where would you rank Devin Duvernay
Starting point is 00:59:57 who's 38% rostered? Right. He'd be probably in that same range, like low-end number three in full PPR. Lower than that and none. If Keenan Allen does not play, would Josh Palmer be ahead of Devin Duvernay, ahead of Josh Reynolds? No. He might be ahead of Duvernay if you need somebody for this week.
Starting point is 01:00:22 But again, just don't know what the status is of Rashad Bateman at this point. If this is a significant absence, you'd like to have a piece of this Ravens passing attack to some extent. I don't think it's a break the bank situation, but Reynolds clearly is not going to be a long-term
Starting point is 01:00:39 option if Keenan Allen returns. But the fact that Keenan Allen walked off the field last week with a trainer and may have had a setback, Palmer might have some staying power. So he's right there with him. I'd probably prefer Palmer if you tell me that Keenan Allen's left. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:52 And we've got Devontae Parker on the list. I'm not sure how much people are going to trust him, but two good games in a row. He only had two targets at Green Bay at a 24-yard, had 24 yards and a touchdown. Gets Detroit this week, though. Corey Davis,
Starting point is 01:01:06 seven targets from Zach Wilson. Was pretty good at the beginning of the year with Zach Wilson. Gets Miami this week. Isaiah McKenzie still available in half our leagues. Jamal Agnew, it looks like Zay Jones is going to come back. I know Matt Collins had a bad game, but Matt Collins
Starting point is 01:01:23 faced Denver, and he plays almost every snap when Hunter Renfro is out. So keep an eye on Matt Collins. If you need someone, he's 37% rostered. And then you've got Kadarius, Tony Wanda Robinson, Richie James for the giants,
Starting point is 01:01:37 Alec Pierce, Alec Pierce, 80 yards this week, 61 yards the week before he didn't play a ton in week four. Jamie, what's your interest level on Alec Pierce? I liked him coming into the week before. He didn't play a ton in week four. Jamie, what's your interest level on Alec Pierce? I liked him coming into the NFL draft. I liked him when he ended up with the Colts
Starting point is 01:01:50 because of the opportunity there to get targets. Look, this run game is struggling. May not have Taylor this week. Probably going to see Matt Ryan north of 35 pass attempts. Again, he already has a 50 pass attempt game on his resume this season. You go back to that week one game,
Starting point is 01:02:06 he targeted Pierce in the end zone a couple of times, should have maybe had a touchdown. If he scores in that game, despite the fact that he got a concussion and missed week two, we'd probably be a little bit more excited about Og Pierce. And so there's a clear path to production here. And so a great guy to let your first run of waivers go through. Maybe your second run of waivers go through.
Starting point is 01:02:23 You don't have to necessarily spend a lot of fab on him and could end up being a significant contributor for you at some point this year. A last question about wide receivers. Dave, Darnell Mooney, where does he rank amongst this group? Is he ahead of guys like Josh Reynolds and Duvernay and Josh Palmer? Darnell Mooney? He's behind
Starting point is 01:02:39 Reynolds for me. He's ahead of Duvernay and Palmer, but it's on the hunch that the bears start to open up their offense just as, as much as they did last week against the giants. Okay. Let's go to tight ends. Tyler Conklin is number one for Jamie gets the dolphins this week. They've kind of struggled against tight ends, mostly Mark Andrews, but just gave up a touchdown Hayden Hearst, Robert Tunyon against the giants who have yet to allow a touchdown, but just gave up a touchdown to Hayden Hurst. Robert Tunyon against the Giants, who have yet to allow a touchdown, but they have not faced any good tight ends yet.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Taysom Hill, we talked about, and he gets Seattle. Mo'Ally Cox, Cade Otten, Will Disley. Will Disley, we have not talked about. In three of four games, he has 34 to 43 yards and a touchdown. He played a ton of snaps in week four. In the other game, he had zero yards. But, Jamie, like Will Disley, you have him last on this list. So you have Disley behind Conklin and Tunyon and Otten and Mo'Ally Cox.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Want to just discuss? I think there's more upside for those guys because Disley's still playing in a three tight end rotation. But, you know, look, with the way Gino's playing right now, it's two guys getting a ton of targets. And then the third guy is kind of, you know, just finding the end zone. That's what this has been. So he's not bad. You know, if you want to put ahead of those guys, that's fine.
Starting point is 01:03:56 I just think, you know, if if the absence for Braid is extended, you know, Otten was somebody that they liked. Remember, before they brought in Rudolph, he was expected to be the potential Gronk replacement. And now there's maybe an opportunity here for him to get some additional targets. And the Colts are just struggling for playmakers right now. And Molly Cox pops up from time to time, and maybe they build off what they had last week as Ryan continues to develop a rapport with them.
Starting point is 01:04:18 And how would you rank these guys, Dave? Irv Smith against the Bears, Daniel Bellinger against the Packers, and Logan Thomas against the Titans? Thomas would be first. Irv Smith would be second. Daniel Bellinger against the Packers, and Logan Thomas against the Titans. Thomas would be first, Irv Smith would be second, Bellinger would be third. Okay. And DSTs, the Vikings, the Dolphins, and the Jaguars.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Do you like the Saints this week against Seattle? Yes. Not as much as other defenses. Do you like the Titans at Washington? I do like the Titans against Washington. Okay. And we've got kickers, Will Lutz,
Starting point is 01:04:51 Brett Marr, who Jamie added a lot of Brett Marr last week because he had a lot of Harrison Butker. I kept seeing, drop Harrison Butker, add Brett Marr, drop Harrison Butker. Good job.
Starting point is 01:05:00 And Graham Gonneau. Graham Gonneau is, how is Graham Gonneau not the number one kicker in fantasy? I mean, he's the best kicker in the world. Daniel Carlson for the Raiders
Starting point is 01:05:08 is the number one kicker in fantasy. All right, we're out of here, everybody. Thanks so much for watching and listening. Sorry for the connection issues.
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