Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire! Chargers RBs, 49ers/Packers WRs, TEs Aplenty (10/07 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 7, 2025

Kimani Vidal and Hassan Haskins have a big opportunity in front of them, but we're a bit hesitant to buy in. We talk about our top waiver wire priorities (3:45) which include the Chargers running backs plus Mason Taylor and Kendrick Bourne. What if Rico Dowdle and Michael Carter were available (13:35)? How would that change our priorities? ... How much FAB are we spending this week (18:45)? What if Calvin Ridley were on waivers? We also run through the news and notes (21:45) and then give our Top 3 priorities at each position: QB (24:40), RB (26:00), WR (29:10), TE (31:00), DST (33:00) and Kicker. We talk about Sam Darnold, Kenneth Gainwell, Darnell Mooney, Mac Jones, Theo Johnson and more ... Options in shallow leagues (37:05) and deep leagues (39:00), Team Name Tuesday (43:30), a recap of Chiefs-Jaguars (44:00), the Dropometer (48:00) and a longer look at the waiver wire (51:00) at each position ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? It's a no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.

What's up, everybody? Welcome to the show. Let's talk waiver wire on fantasy football today, presented by FedMGM, the sports book born in Vegas. It's Tuesday, October 7th. And Omarian Hampton is on IR. We need running back replacements once again. We've got a lot of tight ends with really good matchups coming up, including both Brown's tight ends.

How about the Patriots DST? They've been good in four or five weeks, and their upcoming schedule is so good. Saints, Titans, Browns, Falcons. Their next four games, a lot of good matchups coming up for some of these players that we're going to talk about on the waiver wire. Woo, good morning. I'll tell you, it was a good morning as a dad.

My son is obsessed with Trevor Lawrence. He's seven years old. And when he woke up and I got to show him the highlight of Trevor Lawrence falling and getting back up and falling again and scoring a touchdown. He was pumped. What a fun game last night, guys. Are the Jags for real, Duvall? You just saw him Chris Jones playing defense on that play. Are the Jags for real?

Yeah, of course the Jags is for real. I mean, this defense is creating a lot of turnovers. They're finding ways to win. It's not pretty if you listen to Liam Cohen. post-locker room or post-game locker room talk. You know, he understands that very well. But look, when you could be 5-0 in the loss that they had to Jake Browning, essentially, like this is a division that's clearly winnable.

You know, it's between them and the Colts at this point. I think the Texas have a chance to get back into it, but it's a brutal schedule still for them. So you're looking at one of those two teams and not both can make the playoffs. One could potentially, you know, if, if they, they are able to get some luck. You know, if one gets really hot between the Jaguars or the Colts, can maybe get the one seat if the bills have a loss or two along the way because the division is so winnable if they can beat each other, sweep the other one.

But yeah, Jacksonville is definitely for real, without a doubt. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's, this is one of the teams that new coach influence, new regime influence, make the playoffs next year, you know, and then we see if it's sustainable or not. But, I mean, look, they're finding ways to get the job done. Good for them. Fun, fun season in the AFC South, Indianapolis, and Jacksonville, tie to top the division at 4 and 1.

All right, on to more pressing matters. Top three waiver wire priorities. Dave, I'm going to let you go first. Is that a Raiders jacket? No. You ask this every time. When do the Raiders ever wear blue app? I don't remember.

It's the old NFL equipment logo. Okay. It's turned into a relic. like us. Mason Taylor's the first name on my list. I love what we've seen from him as far as Snapchat all year long. The targets over the last two weeks have been great. He needs to continue to get that volume.

I don't see why he doesn't. I kind of feel like he's in that mold of start him, but don't necessarily watch him because he's not an outstanding athlete. It takes him a little while to get open still, but he's getting a ton of short targets because Justin Fields likes to check down a lot. And I think it keeps going. So he's my favorite guy to get. It would be Kamani Vidal.

A, if I thought that Kamani Vidal was a really talented running back, and if he was a really talented running back, he would have been drafted a lot sooner than the sixth round once upon a time. And B, if I was convinced that he would be the main guy for the Chargers, next four weeks, no questions asked as the main replacement for Amari and Hampton. But he's second for me. And obviously, if you lost Hampton or if you need a running back in general, yes, you can put Kamani Vidal first because he should,

get an opportunity. But Hassan Haskins is there. He's going to take work away. I do not think Askins is a top three ad. But he's somebody that I think could end up being helpful in fantasy. I just don't know for how long. Kamani Vaddao will be helpful in fantasy. Third is Kendrae Miller. It's a long-term play. And he's only available in about a third of CBS leagues, probably a little bit more on other sites. But he's eventually going to take over the Saints backfield. It's happening. And he's been playing really well. Double-digit carries each of the last two weeks. Should could see a lot more at some point by, I don't know, let's call it week nine, week 10. Oh, man.

First of all, Mason Taylor is one of the guys I highlighted is having great matchups. Now, Denver this week, not necessarily a great matchup, although they're usually better against wide receivers than they are tight ends. But then after that, Carolina, 31st, Cincinnati, 32nd against tight ends. Those are the matchups for Taylor after Denver. Then they get a buy, then Cleveland, then New England, 28th against tight ends, and Baltimore. 23rd, Baltimore should be a lot healthier by then. I always take tight-end fantasy points aloud with a grain of salt, especially early in the season.

It really matters who you played. But I think Carolina and Cincinnati are legitimately great matchups, and that's what Taylor gets in weeks seven and eight. I don't know if I agree about the Kendry Miller thing, because I don't know, taking over for Camara. But we'll talk about it later. Jamie, who are your top three waiver-wire priorities? Kendrick Bourne is one with the idea of if Ricky Pearsall and Joanne Jennings are out.

We are still in wide receiver hell and what he did last week with Mac Jones and the matchup he has against Tampa Bay. He's easily number one for me. Mason Taylor would be two. The one thing I would caution with Mason Taylor and everything Dave said is right and everything you said about the matchups is right. But you kind of alluded to this. There's a lot of tight end options this week.

It's probably the deepest that we've seen in any position of players that could helpful for you if you're in a one-week situation. So let's just say you're the George Kittle manager that has been sort of going week to week. There's about five guys that you can use this week that I think can get you by. So you don't have to necessarily break the bank for Mason Taylor. But if you need a tight-in long-term, I do think Taylor has the most sustainability. If Kenneth Gainwell is still out there, I would still go get him. There is the report that Jalen Warren is going to return this week.

But we still don't know how this usage is going to look like after what Gainwell did with the best running back performance for the Steelers so far this season. and so the options for the Chargers backfield are clearly the most available to you and potentially the most upside. It's also potentially the biggest mess that we could have of any team this season, and I don't think they're done adding to their backfield. So get ready for the Gus Edwards signing that's going to happen at some point this week. So Vidal is my preferred choice of the Chargers guys,

but it might be Haskins, and that's just going to make you vomit. The only thing I think that's encouraging for the Chargers short term is who they play in week six, and that's the Miami Dolphins. So hopefully whoever gets the majority of touches does well with them, and then we have that guy for the next three games, if that's the length of time that Hampton's going to miss, I hope it's not more than the four games. But for this week, I think if you end up chasing the wrong Chargers running back and spending too much fab on that particular guy, you're going to be a little bit upset. well i have two questions about michael carter one of them is how do you feel about videl right now compared to whoever your favorite cardinals running back was last week felt much better about carter because they have used him in this role before we saw last year when j k dobbins was injured and gus edwards was doing nothing they didn't even give vidal a chance yeah and so the concern

is, is that do they trust him? You know, for a guy that's been on the practice squad, and Haskins is a guy that Harbaugh coached in college, like, does he get the opportunity to be the lead guy? So we had two drives in the game against the commanders with Hampton sidelines, and the playing time was 60, 40 in favor of Vidal. They had the same amount of carries. They had the same amount of catches.

The route participation was one in favor of Vidal. So, like, there's no real, clear cut one is more is going to be more involved than the other and so it could be i'm sorry to cut you off jamie um were you done no good all right i feel like vidal is carter and haskins is demarcato but haskins is a worst version of demarcato and vidal is a worse version of carter and if they don't they've got a running back on the practice squad that i want to bring up his name is a mar johnson who's short, small, fast, decent pass catcher, had a good preseason in Green Bay.

I don't know if they promote him or they go and sign another running back off the street or whatever. But I do feel like he could end up. I think he's like an interesting dynasty stash. And it kind of breaks my heart that I have to say that on the air because I don't want Jamie or anybody else in our dynasty league to go and pick him up. I want to get a lot of time. He's all yours.

Yeah, okay, good. And I don't even know if he's going to end up being. a thing but that's a deep dynasty stash if the chargers don't add anybody i would suspect that they they move him into the active roster and doesn't mean he's going to get every single carry but if they don't like vidal and haskins is a slug man like he's he's good in pass protection and he played three of five third downs that they had after hampton got hurt last week um i i just i don't see it i'd be really surprised of haskins ended up being their main back vidal had all their snaps inside to 10. They had three of them against commanders after Hampton's injury. And Vidal had them all.

I'm not excited about the talent, but as we know, opportunity matters the most. And I think Vidal, as long as the chargers don't add anybody else, they don't sign Gus Edwards, et cetera. I think Vidal gets the better opportunity. Yeah. Right. And I think people weren't that excited about Michael Carter, but then you see him go out and get almost every touch and get a score a touchdown and have five catches. They throw to their running back. Is that really humble at the goal line? Yeah. They throw to their running backs a lot.

I mean, Amarian Hampton is getting a lot of work in the passing game. So I could see, even if you're not that excited about Vidal, remember, it's at least four weeks for Hampton. They haven't given us a timetable here that I've seen. And we've got only two teams on by this week. Two teams on by next week, but it's Baltimore and Buffalo. So you got two must-start running backs, basically. Well, we thought two must-start running backs. And then you got to buy NATO after that with six teams on Byerick.

You got to get through at running back. So I think Vidal is going to be probably the most out of players. Only 1% props. Oh, I think they both will. I mean, again, you're running waivers on Tuesday. You're not going to hear a peep from the Chargers unless there's a signing about who's better than the other. Who's going to get more work than the other? You know, I would be very surprised if anybody covering that team, no disrespect to them, has that information said to them.

So we're not going to know until they probably get on the practice field. And you get the, oh, here's the guy taking the first rep. And then the next time through their drills, it could be a flip-flop of who it is. So the only thing I would caution is, like, Carter was worth spending some money on. This, to me, is not one of those type of situations. You know, you could be buying a flex because of the dolphins. And it might be both of them. It might be what is.

We're still talking about a terrible offensive line. We're still talking about a quarterback who, in the first three weeks of the season was their leading rusher and just had a 60 yard rushing game like this is going to fall a lot on Justin Herbert and so this is not

you know run game that's going to come in and support this team this is going to be run game that's going to come in and supplement whatever they're able to accomplish because it could be

this could be the best Dolphins run defense performance that we see because these guys are so bad. Okay so my other question about my oh wait I don't know if I Dave's top three with Mason Taylor Kamani Vidal

Kendry Miller Jamie's was Kendrick Bourne, Mason Taylor, Vidal? No, it was Kenneth Gainwell. Kenneth Gainwell, okay, sorry. I don't know if we ever got to that. All right, so Gainwell, even though, oh, you did say that. Even though Jalen Warren, there was a report that he's expected to play. There are B reporters that say that Warren will not only be back, but still have the feature role.

Okay. So you want, so. Not that I disagree with Jamie. I don't disagree with Jamie at all. Like, I've got Gainwell on a couple of teams, and I am not going to cut him, unless I am desperate for a roster spot. Okay, so my next question is, if Rico Dowdell and Michael Carter are available,

how does that change things? Because Rico Dowdell is, hold on 59% rostered on ESPN and Yahoo. Rico is 71% rostered on Sleeper. Michael Carter, I mean, we talk, the waiver wire is based on guys who are rostered in 65% of leagues or less. Michael Carter is 66% rostered, so he's very much available in CBS leagues, and then 39% rostered on Yahoo.

42% rostered on ESPN, 59% on Sleeper. That's Michael Carter. So, Jamie, if Rico Dattle and Michael Carter are part of this discussion, then what are your top three priorities? Yeah, Daudel would be one overall or running back? Overall. Overall, Daudill would be one. Carter would be two and then Kendrick Borton would be three.

Dave? Doutle one, Carter, two, Taylor three. And the only reason why I don't have Kendrick Born in my top three is because I'm thinking a little bit more long term. plus there's the chance that some guys come back this week for the 49ers and Bourne loses that upside that we saw on Thursday. Can I make the case that Carter should be ahead of Dowdell, just because you've got another at least three games of Michael Carter as the

Starter? I would take the one game scenario of Rico Dowell this week versus the three game scenario of Michael Carter, to be honest with you, because you know Dowell's going to have a good game against the Cowboys. But we don't know that Chuba is out, do we? we don't know for sure okay i'll rephrase if we know that rico dattle that we know that tuba hubber is out this week which is what it seems like yeah yeah i think what they say he was week to week and i'd be very surprised if after what he did knowing that he's playing his former team and what dave canales said

at monday's presser about how they may have to split touches between the two of them which was happening already like this just feels like he's going to give him the opportunity to play well in this give him the opportunity to get touches in this game whether he plays well or not is it's hard to say But, like, Carter could easily have three miserable games. Yeah, he makes me nervous. Yeah, he doesn't play Tennessee anymore. It's Indianapolis, Green Bay, then a buy. Now, he does have Dallas.

That could be good. And then after that, we could start seeing. Yeah, after that, I believe Benson's eligible to return. As much as he makes me nervous, I would start him over Derek Henry and Alvin Camar the week. Yeah. Indianapolis's run defense isn't really that great. They're allowing four and a half yards per carry. I think six best against one.

catch it's like he's going to be involved. I hope so. I just, man, but it's not unimpressive. It's not going to be like last week. All right. We've got a couple things I want to tell you about. First of all, 1 p.m.

Eastern today we're on CBS Sports Network doing this waiver wire thing. If we have any more updated information, you've got to make sure you pay attention to that and join us on CBS Sports Network every Tuesday and most Thursdays at 1 p.m. Eastern for fantasy football today. Beat the waiver wires is a FFT Express episode

that Dave and I have been doing on Thursdays, and Dave has been really on point he's been crushing it talked about sam darnold talked about who else did you talk about a mason taylor mason taylor and sam darnald were big time priorities on that show and the week before i forget you did great so congratulations a nice nicely going or nice going it's a fun thing that we do i think all of our waiver stuff generates on this show every tuesday yeah but things changed during the week and we want to start talking about players to just put on the bench in case we need them you know as a by week replacement for the week after or as someone that could end up breaking out. And there are players

that we will talk about on this show that have some amazing long-term potential. I can't wait to talk about them. But that Thursday show is fun and it's short. It's not that long. 10 minutes of your time to help your fantasy team get better. Okay, we're going to take a quick break. That'll be short as well. And come back. We'll talk about Fab, news and notes. We'll get to the top three at each position. We'll give you the DSTs that you should be picking up this week. And we'll be right back. I have to tell you about this game-changing product I use before a night out with drinks. It's called pre-alcohol. Zbiotics pre-alcohol probiotic drink is the world's first genetically engineered probiotic. It was invented by PhD scientists to tackle rough mornings after drinking.

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And now I'm getting flashbacks to my college days. It's not going to be that much. I think the manager that's got Omar and Hampton and can't get their hands on any other running backs can probably get away with like 15%. And every other manager probably won't go higher than 10%. Okay. And then, Jamie, you said you really like Kendrick Bourne. How much would you spend on him?

oh again i'll keep saying the same thing like these receivers are not worth breaking the bank for because there's a the potential especially for borne you know or i in the case of born there's the potential of the one of the two guys returning which could clearly make him irrelevant but with the injuries that they're dealing with in the case of pierceal and in the injuries for jennings that continue to mount up like we could see him still in in a prominent role but we've seen these type of receivers come and go uh throughout the course of the first five weeks of the season and so 10% at most. What if Calvin Ridley were available, guys?

He's about 70 to 80% rostered on our site, ESPN, Yahoo, and Sleeper. If Calvin Ridley were available, how much would you throw down for him? 15%. Okay, a little bit more aggressive for Jamie. Would you rather have, if they were both on your waiver wire, would you take Rico Dowdell or Calvin Ridley? Rico. Michael Carter or Calvin Ridley?

Carter. Michael Carter. Kamani Vidal or Calvin Ridley Mr. Carter Ridley Who'd you ask for that? I don't know Fonzie.

Is that Fons? No. I'm going to make you look that one up. That is an old head reference for sure. Okay. I asked I don't know.

Calvin Ridley or Kamani Vidal. It's not even Carter. Like I, it's Cotter that I said, but it sounded like Cotter, so or Carter, so I said it like that. Right, but isn't that happy days? No, no, I'm stuck in 1974. Isn't that happy days?

No. What is it? Welcome back, Cotter. Oh, I thought they were the same show, I think. To me, I'm picturing the same exact show. All right, whatever, who cares? Let's go, I guess, these are news and notes, I'll throw it off. Before we do that, I knew there's something else I had to tell you.

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All right. News and notes. So we could get a quarterback change in Cincinnati. Zach Taylor hasn't ruled it out. Kevin O'Connell from Minnesota didn't say who would start after the buy, but Carson Wentz is now dealing with a shoulder injury. So we'll see what they do. They have Philadelphia, the Chargers, the Lions, the Ravens.

Tough, tough schedule for Minnesota after the buy. And then Chicago, Green Bay, Seattle. Geez, brutal schedule for them. Kyler Murray briefly left the game with a foot injury. came back in, but he's going to be monitored as he deals with his foot injury. Arizona is at Indianapolis this week. Running back news, unfortunately, Antonio Gibson is out for the season with the knee injury. Amarian Hampton on IR with an ankle injury.

The next four games are Miami, Indianapolis, Minnesota, and Tennessee. We don't know the timetable for Hampton, but he's out at least four weeks. Saquan Barkley's got the Thursday game against the Giants. He has some soreness. He missed practice or was listed as a DNP. but he should play. As we just talked about twice, Jalen Warren expected to play.

And Tyler Biday left with a shoulder injury. We have a Tyler Biday themed team name for team name Tuesday later. Darius Slayton left with a hamstring injury and they've got the Thursday game so we may not see Darius Slaten. But Dan Quinn is optimistic about Terry McLaurin playing this week, so that would be wonderful

against the Bears. Calvin Austin for the Steelers, he's injured. He could go on IR. We're expecting Darnel Mooney back. and Christian Watson's 21-day practice window is open. So Christian Watson should be back sometime in the next three weeks. Pretty cool. Speedy recovery.

At tight end, George Kittle likely out this week. Coker, too, right? Thank you. Coker also could come off of IR this week. George Kittle likely out this week, but has a good chance to return in week seven. Kind of bummed about Brenton Strange, leaving with a hip injury yesterday. Looks really good out there. He's got a great matchup.

with Seattle, 30th against tight ends. You mushed him yesterday. I did? Well, I didn't have him in the early Waverwire show that we do on Monday. And you said, oh, what about Brent Strange? He's 63% roster. And I left him out because it was the game Monday night. So I was going to add him depending on what he did.

And you're like, oh, he's got a great matchup. He's going to be awesome. I'm going to mush him. Arizona tight end tip Ryman out for the season with an ankle injury. Landon Dickerson has an ankle injury for the Eagles. not sure if he'll be able to play against the Giants. Minnesota centers on IR, Jacksonville Center left with an injury last night.

Buffalo Center left with a handage. I just think he came back in. But big one here, Denver Offensive Guard, Ben Powers is out. No, why did I say he's out for this season? He's out for much of the season, though. He's going to miss maybe two months. So very good offensive guard for one of the best offensive lines in football. So both for the Eagles and the Broncos,

we've got injuries to a very important offensive. defensive guard on one of the best lines. And we'll stop it there. All right, Jamie, let's get the top three at each position, beginning with quarterback. Who are our top three quarterbacks this week? Sam Donald would be one, you know, coming off the game that he just had. He's kind of, like I said, prior to Sunday, he's been living in that 18 to 20 point per game range, you know, in the three games prior to facing Tampa Bay.

And then he goes for 35 in his best performance, or 32, excuse me, in his best performance, 30 fantasy points, because he threw 35 a 10. So, you know, 34 times, nine more than his average. So hopefully we get a little bit more volume. I think it's a good enough matchup against Jacksonville that you can buy into starting him, at least in deeper leagues. He doesn't crack my top 12, but he's just outside of it, which again, which is kind of where he was living. I kind of go back and forth for who's two, because if Mack Jones starts, which seems like

it's going to be the case, I do like him better for this week with his matchup against Tampa Bay, based on what we saw, especially if he gets some help at wide receiver. but Tua coming off, ironically, his best game of the season in the first game without Tyree Kill, also not a matchup. I think you have to fear against the Chargers at this point, at least again from a low-end starting point. So a starting standpoint. There's not a must-start quarterback for this week, but I think all three of these guys are in the streaming conversation. This is probably not the position that's going to require a lot of ad drops just because we have C.J. Stroud and the Minnesota guys on by.

so obviously Lamar Jackson out but you know hopefully hopefully you're not scrambling for quarterback Dave running back top three assuming you can't get your hands on Dowdell or Michael Carter it's Vidal 1 Kendrae Miller number two Kenneth Gainwell number three and it's with the idea that Vidal is going to get the opportunity now in L.A. You need to pay attention in the news to make sure it stays that way. Kendrae Miller will get an opportunity long term and he's playing a little bit right now So as a bi-week running back, he's not bad. And I didn't mean to poo-poo Gainwell earlier by saying that reporters think that Warren is still going to be the main guy and that Gainwell's going to go back to barely touching the ball.

He'll still get a little bit more work than he was getting before. At least I assume that he will. But is he just more of like a handcuff to Jalen Warren than anything else? Or is he now the Steelers new 1B where maybe it is 40%. And we don't know. And that's why there is intrigue in picking up Kenneth Gainwell. I just wouldn't prioritize it unless we knew for sure that the Steelers were going to pivot to Gainwell and make him their 1A, in which case he'd be the hottest guy to pick up off the waiver wire. But those are my top three.

Badal, Miller, Gainwell. Don't forget, the Steelers are also playing the Browns, which we consider arguably the toughest matchup. That's what they have this week. And then after that, they have the Colts, I believe. No, they have the Bengals. Okay, then the Colts. Nope, that would be a goal. Then the Packers, then the Colts.

I knew they had the Colts at some point. So it's Browns, Bengals. worst best matchup, worst against running backs, Packers, Colts for the Steelers. Yeah, I will say just in regard to the gain-mole situation,

the beat riders are speculating. That has nothing, because I'm sure Dave and I read the same stuff, like that he's going to get his job back in terms of Jalen Warren, but we don't know exactly what this will look like. And so if you're talking about the chargers and their splits

or Gainwell getting more work on his team, I would take the chance on Gainwell getting more work on his team. team, then the Chargers split. If we knew there was one guy for the Chargers, and we can speculate that's right out. So we want to go that route. It's fine. But it's just something that I think at this point we don't know. And again, I don't rule out them bringing somebody else in off the street. The Gus Edwards thing was a joke. I hope it's not Gus Edwards, but they can still bring in somebody that they may feel has an opportunity to help them. And if that player does

help them, then you may get the thumbs up as a big, hey, you know, like something like Fonzie might say. So those would not be happy. If that happened. Just something to keep in mind there when you have that, that ready to go that you could get a little happy days feel of five months. There we go. I think these 70s sitcom, I think the 70s sitcom jokes have jumped the shark. Oh, very good. I don't like it when Jamie and Thomas work in cahoots against me like that.

Okay. It's pretty good, though. It was good. It was good. It was good. YouTube and see Adam as the Fons. All right. So Vidal, Kendry Miller, Kenneth Gamel, however, the big caveat is, if Rico Doudal's available,

he's number one. If Michael Carter's available, he's number two. Okay, wide receivers. We haven't really talked much about the wide receivers. Dave, who are your favorites? It borne's number one at wide receiver. This is assuming that you can't get your clopies on one of the Packers wide receivers. Romeo Dobbs, Matthew Golden, maybe they were dropped going into the buy.

but if they're out there, they're only available in, like, smaller 10-team leagues on CBS. But if they're out there in your leagues, man, go get them, especially Dobbs. I think that he really kind of earned what his role should be moving forward in the Green Bay offense. Bourne's number one, it's a temporary short-term deal because we know that once Pierceall's back and assuming one of Kittle or Joanne Jennings comes back, this could be two weeks. Bourne's volume is going to go way, way down. Rashid Shaheed is second for me. I like the big catch they had last week.

We know that he's got that upside. He's had at least 8.2 PPR points in each game this year. That's not an exciting number. But when we're talking about biweek replacements, maybe number three receivers, he can be that guy for New Orleans. He could also be on the trade block from New Orleans. So that's someone who can end up in a better situation and be a factor, number two target getter for another team,

a team that's better than New Orleans. I had a tough call between Darnell Mooney or Trey Tucker. I'm just going to take the safer route, which is Mooney. I know he hasn't been great this year. I'm hoping the buy week helped him get healthy and ready to go. Should still play a ton. Good chance to rebound, post-buy, and I don't think he's going to lose his job when somebody else comes back for Atlanta.

In fact, I don't even know who would come back for Atlanta to take work away from Darnell Mooney, whereas Trey Tucker might turn to dust when Brock Bowers comes back. Marquis Brown is almost certainly going to turn into dust when Rishi Rice comes back. So there's a little bit more long-term appeal for Mooney. Okay, so I'll recap all the top threes when we're done with this exercise, but Jamie, how about the top three tight ends? Mason Taylor would be one, Theo Johnson would be two, and A.J. Barner would be three. Just looking at Taylor, we talked about this enough. Opportunity has been great. The targets, the last three games have been amazing.

Theo Johnson now seven targets, he's got 12 targets and the two starts with Jackson Dart and Darius Slayton may not play. And A.J. Barner, seven targets, seven catches, 53 yards, two touchdowns in his last game. He's got now four touchdowns in his last four games, three in his last two. So doing a good job finding the end zone. And again, if Sam Donald starts to throw the ball a little bit more. Barner, by the way, one of the more underrated touchdown celebrations when he scores. So does the little robot thing. So those will be the three.

But it's a very good position for this week because you got Harold Fanon, hopefully getting a little bit more involved with Dylan Gabriel. You have Evan Ingram coming off two weeks with 13 targets, scoring his first touchdown. Jake Tongass, if you need a one-week situation, had a huge game last week and, again, favorable matchup this week. So there's a lot of guys that you can sort of find your way through or navigate through the position if you can't get your hands on Mason Taylor. Barner with four touchdowns on 16 targets this year.

Pretty good. Kyle Pitts is 67% roster, David Njoku's 69% rostered. Do you like Mason Taylor? You both have Mason Taylor as your number one tight end. How would you compare Mason Taylor to Nogoku and Pitts? Rest of season, I would go Taylor still first, then Njoku, then Pits. But they're all right in that top 10 range. I would take Pitts first, Taylor second, Njoku third.

Okay, Kyle Pitts has scored 7.7 or more PPR fantasy points in every game. It's not really amazing or anything, but... One touchdown, yeah. Not bad, only one touchdown for him. The hope would be is that what we saw from Njoku with Dylan Gabriel is, sustainable. Absolutely. Absolutely. Could be. This episode is brought to you by Peloton. A new era of fitness is here. Introducing the new Peloton Cross Training Tread Plus powered by Peloton IQ, built for breakthroughs with personalized workout plans, real-time insights, and endless ways to move. Lift with

confidence while Peloton IQ counts reps, corrects form, and tracks your progress. Let yourself run, lift, flow, and go. Explore the new Peloton cross-training treasps. plus at one peloton.ca. Jamie, give me a DST to stream this week. You already said it. It's the Patriots, you know, just looking at their matchup this week, the way that they played. I mean, I think you heard me say it on Sunday that with the secondary healthy now, this is going to be a tough matchup across the board because they've been very tough to run against,

which is, you know, kind of alluding to why I said I would start Michael Carter over Alman Kamara this week. They're tough to run against. They're tough to throw against at this point and did a great job against Buffalo. And I think Mike Rabel's, you know, finally got the tools in place and the pieces in place with Christian Gonzalez back and, you know, some guys up front that they'll be able to sort of, you know, make things frustrating. But it's the upcoming schedule, especially this week's matchup against New Orleans. Patriots DST is going to, I think, help a lot of people win some games. Yeah.

Patriots DST with great matchups, not just this week, but coming up. Kickers to stream? Well, did you mention Straders out for the season? I did not. I should have mentioned that. tough one for the Colts, Spencer Schrader out for the year. Tough one for fantasy managers, too. He's been awesome.

Yeah, yes, he has. Just let me get there, sorry. I got you, if you. It's, um, Brandon McManus coming back off is by. Jason Myers, who I thought would do a little bit better last week, but still gets Jacksonville. And then Chris Boswell also coming off was by. McManus and Boswell have been very good fantasy kickers, so buy back into them.

And I'm sorry, I should have asked you for the other DSTs that you like. So in addition to the Patriots, I thought, It doesn't seem like it's a great week for streaming DSTs. It's not. So you can just play the Raiders, Titans match up, and to see which quarterback is going to make the first mistake. Raiders versus Titans. Both DSTs have not been so good.

So not easy. I would be shocked if Max Crosby does not have three sacks in this game. I'll take the under. Come on, man. First of all, we, the Titans, my favorite. new favorite team. We're on a one-game winning streak here. Everything's looking up.

Is Jonathan Gannon now coaching the Raiders? The Titans may not know this, and I'm not even sure this is true. They lead the NFL in Interceptions Throne that have led to a touchdown for their own team. That is true. They've got that going for. I think it's true.

All right. Well, we want to know about the shallow leagues, the deep leagues. We're going to tell you about that after we take this break on fantasy football today, we'll be right back. So we have touched on some of the shallow league players like Calvin Ridley,

Michael Carter, and our favorite, RICO Dowdell. Jamie, other shallow leaguers, I wanted to ask you about Stafford because I don't think Stafford's, oh, how about this? Is Matt Stafford worth a top waiver priority? They have the pathetic Ravens this week,

so he might be, but he's 88% rostered or something. But I'm just wondering, if people picked up Stafford last week, should they hold on to him? Of course. Okay. He's top of my quarterback this week. Oh.

And I like it better than Donald. Okay. So who else in the shallow league discussion do we need to know about? At quarterback or everywhere? Everywhere. Who are some of the best ones? Well, you mentioned a few of the running backs.

Obviously, Rico Dowell and Michael Carter would headline the list just based on what they're hopefully going to do. If you want to stash CJ Stroud, It's back-to-back, 22 plus point games. The schedule coming off the buy is miserable, but still looking at, you mentioned that the buy weeks ahead of it, he is maybe starting to play a little bit better. So he's the one quarterback that falls in this range. But obviously, if Stafford's on your waiver wire, make him the priority.

At receiver, there's a bunch of guys. You mentioned Calvin Ridley, 72%, I believe, is what his roster percentage is on our site. Wondell Robinson is probably going to get 100 targets now if Darius Slatens out and the rest of the receiving court looking like it is. Cooper Cup just had nine targets. And so I think we talked about this last week. You said, are we dropping Cooper Cup? And we said, if they're going to throw the ball more,

which was based on your theory, they did. And he had nine targets. Not a huge game, but six catches. I would still look at him. Matthew Golden and Romeo Dobbs. Dave mentioned that. Golden's starting to play better in his last two games prior to his by. Dobbs coming off the three touchdown game.

So clearly take a look and make sure those guys aren't on waivers. And then Joanne Jennings still falls in this range. I think at some point when he's health. He has one good game so far this season. He's been really banged up. But in that one game, he led the 49ers in Target. So we'll see what happens when he's healthy. What Pierceall's knee situation is when Brandon Ayuk returns,

a lot of moving parts clearly with the 49ers. But if you could stash Joanne Jennings, I would do so. And then at tight end, Kyle Pitts, you mentioned. David Nijoku, you mentioned, you know, both those guys coming off their last games. For Pitts, it was week four because of their buy. But best game for him, 18 PPR points in week four. And then Najoku was just his first game with with Dylan Gabriel, 18 PPR points as well. So both those guys should be rostered.

Yeah. Well, David Nizoku, what are you kidding? Romeo Dobbs. I had him two weeks ago when he caught three touchdowns. None of these guys are available in my league, Dave. I was, I'm glad you didn't do the Foncy voice to introduce the deep league guys to add. Okay, quarterback, Mack Jones, McCorkle, he's real, 85% available. I don't think Brock Purdy is going to play.

we're skipping over a lot of quarterbacks, and I'm going to do this at other positions, too. Players who are available in around 50, 60% of leagues, that's not deep enough. We're trying to go really deep. So Mack Jones, tops the list of quarterback, Jake Brown and Cam Ward,

those are the other quarterbacks that you can go and get to potentially start this week. Good luck if you're using them. At running back, it's simple. When you go to the doctor, you check your vitals. When you wash your hair,

you use Fidal Sassoon. And when you need a running back who's available in the 99% of leagues, Kimani Vidal is that guy. He's the number one player. to add his teammate Hassan Askins is available in 97% of leagues he would be another running back that would be definitely added in those deeper leagues Isaiah Davis is a handcuff for the next two months to freeze hall he's on 86% of leagues I would put him on the list as well

and then two deeper names already mentioned amar johnson what about jarquess hunter in l.A after blake quorum's ugly fumble not fumble but really it's on him that there was a fumble and Stafford lost two points on Thursday, I wonder if Jarquez Hunter gets an opportunity. So deep league, tons of bench spots, Jarquez Hunter of the Rams may be worth picking up at running back at wide receiver. Kendrick Bourne's available in a ton of leagues. He's an easy one to go and figure out. Tori Horton, Jalen Coker, we've already kind of hinted at him.

You can pick him up and stash him on your IR until he comes off of IR and then you're going to have to make a decision about whether or not you want to keep him on your bench or not. but 79% of leagues he's available could be the number two target getter for Carolina the rest of the season big slot receiver not a burner by any stretch but someone who can use his size to win especially in the red zone i like car i like cocker quite a bit actually so if you can get your hands on him you can we haven't talked about ryan flornoi yet he had a monster game for dallas on sunday i don't know how feasible it is that he can keep it up see the lamb's eventually going to be back when he's back florinois could turn into total dust Dave do you think do you Do you think Ryan has a high Flournoy? Isaiah Bond is 87% available for the Browns, and he might be. There's an outside check. That's Brown's wide receiver for rest of the season. It was an ugly game against Minnesota.

Wait, which one? Bond. Bond? Again? Yeah. Isaiah Bond. And then Diamondy Brown had a decent game for Jackson. I can't really recommend him at 97% availability.

Tideon, Mason Taylor, 76%. We'll talk about other tightest. Benz. Jake Tongass, Jamie mentioned him, really like what we've gotten out of him over the last couple of weeks, 89% available. A.J. Barner, 98% available. That's it. That's all the, those are all the puns I've got. So I said I'd recap top three at each position. Jamie gave us the quarterbacks, Darnold, Mack Jones, Tuatung of Iloa. Running back, the top three were Dowdell and Carter, if they're available, followed by Vidal, Kendry Miller, Kenneth Gainwell. That was Dave's order. Jamie actually prefers Gainwell to Vidal.

by the way pronunciation cops pronunciation police it is videl not vidal i'm not if you're adam's such an idiot i'm not i promise uh wide receiver kentrick born take a look at those see if the packers wide receivers are available specifically dobbs rachid shahearnel mooney and at tight end they bothers too for me by the way what's that it's born koker for me okay koker yeah um mason taylor is the number one tight end for both Dave and Jamie. Jamie likes Theo Johnson and A.J. Barner. DSTs, really the Patriots are the prize this week. You can also take a look at the Titans and the Raiders. Okay.

Oh, it's team name Tuesday. This one's from Russ. The bidet hurts my booty. And the bidet hurts my Tootin' booty. So very mature. Yeah, not bad. From Michael. This one I think is really great. Orange Moka Frat Pacheco. You get that? No, you never really. I think it's great. Noah has Bijan the box score.

It's good. That's pretty good. That's clever. And Matthew has the very simple, very effective. Tudin Ertz. Jacksonville, 31, Kansas City, 28. Both quarterbacks led their teams in rushing. And Kareem Hunt had a 33-yard character.

which is tied for his longest carry in his last seven seasons and also longer than any carry that Alvin Camara has had in his last five seasons but Jacksonville 31 Kansas City 28 Jamie any big fantasy takeaways here Brian Thomas still tough to trust

I know he had the big catchdown on the sideline at the end of the game but like still need more from him it's just frustrating I know he had the passenger interference call in the end zone too but like you want you just want to see more I do like the fact that it was

you know, the throw in the honey hole and he was going to take a shot and he still caught it. You know, so hopefully he's not shining away from contact. But this was Lawrence's best game in a win. He had been terrible in their

three other victories. And it was because of his rushing total. So just keep that in mind. His schedule is interesting coming up in the next I think they have a week eight by, but schedule's coming up. That's interesting for him. you're looking at him. I added him to the list out of him. You might not see it. So I put him

in the column late last night, um, 49% rostered. So really it was the, the, the one disappointment for me was, was worthy, you know, and thankfully he wasn't injured when he came down with the ankle or came up hobbling with ankle injury, but, like, you'd want to see a little bit more from him, clearly. Targets were okay, but just not the production. Yeah. Now, I think I'm done even considering, this could be a really stupid thing to say, but even considering Brian Thomas as a buy low. I just don't see it, you know. I'm hoping it happens, but how could you, what is there to give you optimism?

It's not like, oh, they came so close to having a big game. It's just not happening right now. If you were good at running back, would you trade Michael Carter straight up for Brian Thomas Jr.? Yes. Yeah. Right. It's a good idea.

So if you can buy really low, then sure. But I think if we view him as a low end number two receiver moving forward, we'll be okay. And maybe he continues to snap out of it. Maybe he sees more targets and maybe he goes back to being the stud that we draft him to be. But there's just not enough evidence. I think he's moving in the right direction, but just not as fast as we want him to. All right. I don't really know there's much else from this game.

Kelsey was 80% started. He came through with a very good game. Mahomes has now scored over 28 fantasy points in three of five games. Very impressive. He throws a ton. And by the way, the Jaguars. are seeing the second most pass attempts per game in the NFL. Who are they playing this week?

They're playing Seattle, so we're hoping for that for Donald. Who sees the most past attempts per game in the NFL? That would be the Cardinals, and Sam Donald threw 24 times or something like that against the Cardinals. So you just never know, but for whatever reason, teams are throwing and throwing and throwing on Jacksonville. Jackson's about a lead in a lot of their games.

I think that's part of it. Travis Hunter, 75% rostered. Got him a little more involved. It's funny to say that, but he briefly left with an injury, but he had three targets, three catches, 64 yards. Drop or hold Travis Hunter? Drop. He's dropable for sure.

9.4 PPR points per game or less in every game this season. No touchdowns yet on the season. Like, I don't know what you're expecting from him at this point. If we were to create something called a dropometer, and it's like on a scale of 1 to 10, where 10 means definitely drop this guy. and one means, no, keep him. He'd be at least an eight, if not a 10.

I don't think I have time for another segment, Dave. But you know what? I'll give it a shot. Let's try it. Dropometer. I'm going to just throw some names out there. Didn't prepare for this at all. Mark Andrews on the dropometer, zero to 10,

10 being drop him immediately, zero is stop playing fantasy football if you're even asking about dropping this guy. Mark Andrews. Five, seven. Yeah, remember, he has the Rams and then a buy. So if you're not going to start him this week, You're not going to start Andrews next week. T. Higgins, zero to ten.

Zero. One. So I should stop playing fantasy football, Jamie. That's what you're telling me. Well, you said. No, no, no. We want you playing against us. You said that before the show.

You were done. Yeah, Hampton. I'm a big Hampton guy, so it was not good news for my teams. RJ Harvey, 0 to 10. Zero. Yeah, it's low. 0, 1, 2, whatever. Trayvion Henderson

Zero Negative zero Woody Marks Is negative zero a thing? I don't think so Woody Marks is also a zero Zach Ertz Five

Same as Anderson Okay One target for Zach Ertz Played about I think half We know that he's okay He played 30 snaps And he did play into the fourth quarter But it didn't seem like he was in his usual

Like it didn't seem like he was Like in a normal role for him Would be interesting they gave Ben Sinnett some more work. Yeah, someone's asking about Joanne Johnson. We can throw him on the dropometer as well. And he played 85% of the snap. So he just didn't get targeted, but his role was not affected yet.

10. I'm not going to go that high. I'll say six. But it's interesting that he sees his target volume dwindle and his numbers dwindle the first time that both Foster Moreau's back and Tassum Hill is back for the Saints. Feels more like coincidence to me, though. It might be, and that's why I'm not going to worry to get rid of him, but he is, if you need the bench, like, would you rather have Mason Taylor or Joanne Johnson the rest of the season? I will pivot.

I will take Taylor over Joanne Johnson. Okay. So let's get back into the waiver wire, give you a recap and some of the names that you may have, that we mean to talk more about. So at quarterback, the shallow league guy was C.J. Stroud, but really it's not, it's not. Jacob talked about it yesterday. They've changed their offense. He's getting the ball out much quicker over the last two weeks,

and it's working. He's also faced Tennessee. They just have a bad defense. And Baltimore, who has right now probably the worst defense in football, Dallas would have something to say about that. It's so beat up. Yeah.

Yeah. He's had two very good matchups, and they've been able to run the ball in those matchups. And I think that's helped Stroud stay comfortable. Okay. So I don't think we're sitting here going, you got to stash CJ Stroud.

The ads for this week are Sam Darnold, Tuatung of Iloa, and Mack Jones. Those appear to be our top three. There is another wild card that we have to talk about, and that's Bryce Young, facing the Dallas Cowboys. But Sam Darnold, who are some quarterbacks that you would start him over this week? Would you start him over Justin Fields against the Broncos?

No. Would you start him over Kyler Murray at the Colts? Yes. Yes. Daniel Jones in that game. Yes, no. So Dave would go with Darnold over Jones and Jamie would go with Jones over Darnold.

Okay, I'll stop there. Let's talk about Bryce Young, since, you know, we already got into Darnold, Tua, and Mack Jones. Bryce Young, facing the Cowboys, they are, yeah, it's the best matchup. But he's only had one good game so far. Where do you guys have him? He's had one good half so far. What's that?

He's had one good half so far. He threw 55 passes and scored 27 points at the Cardinals in week two. where do you guys have bryce young right now uh just behind darnald two and mac jones uh in that same range as kiler i hope that he takes advantage of the matchup but it's just i think you you see what he is at this point especially with the interior offensive line being a mess for them it's just it's such a problem for him at his size like he needs to be protected up front and he's just not getting that right now so he could have a good game but like you said his best game his best half, he threw 55 times, you know, to get there.

And so hopefully Jalen Coker's return, which could happen this week, it's not guaranteed, will give him another weapon that he trusts and can make plays for him. I thought the throw to Xavier Ligett was amazing for the touchdown. Yes. And the second throw he made a league at late in the game and then he threw one to horn late in the game. I actually thought Brett Young had a very strong second half in this game. Look, he has, this has been his career. He's had spurts of, you know, showing why he.

he's the number one overall that was the number one overall peck it's just like not consistent and you know you could say coaching early play early line early now offensive line again weapons which they thought was a strength when they traded at them feeling um not being healthy but this is a game where they're going to lean on their run game and it's just the expectations should be maybe a 20 point game at best i thought the cowboys pass rush and pass defense overall was pretty good in the first half against the Jets. They were all over Justin Fields. I know Fields looked terrible in the first half of that game.

And really, Fields didn't get a lot of his numbers until the fourth quarter. He kind of did what Bryce Young did against Arizona, where the opponent really didn't care. They had a big enough lead that they just said, go ahead, knock yourself out, put up some garbage points. And Justin Fields did that and he was awesome. And I think that's what you have to hope for if you start Bryce Young this week. He is not a top 15 quarterback for me. Okay.

Four of the five quarterbacks to face the Cowboys have thrown for a season high in yards. It's just the best matchup. The only thing that's frustrating for Bryce Young is he was doing this the end of the last year. He's not running anymore. Right. 100%.

Dylan Gabriel scored 20 points against the Falcons. He's another guy that you could look at. By the Vikings, sorry. Minnesota Falcons. The Minnesota Falcons. Pittsburgh right now is 29th against quarterbacks. Miami is 30th against quarterbacks. Pittsburgh's,

misleading, though. Yeah, I know. New England's 21st. That's probably misleading. The Jets are 28th. The Ravens are 31st. So the Browns have on paper a great schedule, but it's, but a lot of those teams have been injured.

But it's more, he should be rostered in Super Flex and 2 QB League. It's not a one QB league. Well, he probably is. He's 12% rostered. But what about also picking up, I mean, picking up Brett Ripham, Brett Rippin just to throw in name out there. To your point, there's just quarterback news right now in Cincinnati. What is it?

they have released Mike White. Okay. All right, let's go to running backs here. Also, if you need a quarterback, Carson Wentz could keep the job. And then the last one, I'm sorry, any interest in Jackson Dart, Eagles, Broncos, Eagles next three weeks. It's just so hard with his receiving court being what it is and the matchups that he has. Plus, it is sustainable. Is he going to rush for 50 yards every game?

So he's definitely in the conversation. I just looked at the matchups and the quarterbacks. They're like, I don't have him ranked ahead of any of the guys we talked about. No. And there's also now concerned about his health. He's already got a hamstring injury that's limited him in practice this week. If they keep running him over and over again, we're going to see Russ. Stop.

Okay. Running back waivers, sorry. Rico Dowdell would be the best. Michael Carter would be the second best. Kenneth Gainwell would be the one with the hairy chest, remember that? Well, Jamie likes Kenneth Gainwell better than Vidal.

Dave likes Vidal better than Gainwell, right? I like Vidal and Kendrae Miller better than Gainwell, as far as waiver ads go this week. And then there's Haskins who, you know, could be the guy, you know, maybe throw a $2 bit on Haskins or something like that.

You never know. Kendra Miller, you know, people... I'd say I'd rather do that from a fab perspective than spend big on Vidal. Would you rather spend $10 on Vidal or $2 on Haskins? $2 on Haskins. $10 on Vidal.

Kendry Miller, people seem to think Camara might get traded. Do you think Camara is going to get traded? Yep. Yeah? I would think if there's the right offer out there, you know, it's one of those things where he means so much that team. Like just for example, small thing, they get their first win. he's the one that gave Kellen Moore the game ball.

Like, you know, he's still, this is a franchise that is wasting the latter years of Cam Jordan of allowing him to go get a ring or play somewhere else. Like, I don't know if they're going to do that. Did you see what DeMario Douglas said about Cam Scataboo? DeMario Davis. Yeah, DeMario Davis said about kids. Yes, I saw that. It's so funny.

He's like a little kid, like always kicking his legs. It was really funny. Tyrone Tracy, speaking of Camp Scatterby, Tyrone Tracy might play this week, and he's 65% rostered. What do we think? Anybody want to roster? He's definitely worth a look,

especially after the fumble, you know, so it's, again, somebody that you don't have to put a huge premium on to pick up this week if he's out there, but you never know how this may shake out, especially with their receiving court being as bad as it is for a former receiver. You may have both these guys on the field a lot at the same time.

You might be able to get him with your last waiver claim, a $1 fab bid. I don't know how many people are thinking about Tyrone Tracy. He's just so unlikely to score because that is Scataboo Land even before the injury. And starts running.

Yeah. Taj Spears didn't play much. Maybe he'll get a bigger role this week. We had a fumble from Pollard. Anytime we're running back fumbles, they could be one fumble away from losing some playing time. Unless you're just fumbles and fumbles and fumbles

and fumbles. Trevor. I wasn't going to make this joke that Amari DiMarcato, if he continues to fumble, he'll be the starter for the Patriots. All right, we got Trevor E.T.N., Isaiah Davis, and Emmanuel Wilson is a handcuff that no one ever talks about. But Emmanuel Wilson for the Packers, someone that you could...

Is it him or is it Marshawn Lloyd? I would guess it's him at this point. We don't know when Lloyd's going to return. Two other handcuffs that are out there, just... I didn't write about them because there's really nothing to say outside of just picked them up his handcuffs. Brian Robinson, Jr. and Tyler Alger are just floating out there in some leagues. they're an injury away from being lottery tickets. Yeah, Marshawn Lloyd. Do you know Marshawn Lloyd can't triple stamp a double stamp?

Lloyd. Okay. So, Kareem Hunt, any interest in picking him up? He had two touchdowns. He's 70% rostered. And then Nick Chubb, 78% roster just thrown out there. If you saw those names, Kareem Hunt and Nick Chubb, any interest there? Minimal.

They're a good bench depth, but that's it. Wide receiver. Wondell Robinson You know, Jimmy kind of He's 82% roster Fine, whatever You kind of said He could get a ton of targets

Of Slatins out Which good chance It's going to happen This short week I don't really Like do we want Would you start Wondale Robinson on Thursday?

If there's no Slayton in three receiver of PPR leagues He'd be in the conversation Okay, fine Cooper Cup Matthew Golden Joanne Jennings, Romeo Dobbs

who's your favorite from that group of four. Cup, Golden, Jennings, Dobbs. Dobbs right now. Dobbs. And what if I threw Calvin Ridley in there? Ridley would be my favorite. Dobbs would still be my favorite. Golden would still be ahead of Ridley.

All right. Let's add Kendrick Bourne, but cautiously, because if they get healthy, I don't think we're going to want to start Kendrick Bourne. 142 yards last week. Now, Jalen Coker. It's amazing. And to Jamie's point on making him a priority,

I don't think we should expect Pearsall and Jennings back this week. One of them could come back. Both of them might not come back. But as long as both of them don't, and we already know Kittles basically not going to play, you're going to get a week out of Bourne. And if it was last week, it was amazing. I don't think it'll be that good this week,

but he could get a ton of volume again, end up being a total stud in PPR. So he's my favorite receiver to pick up. too. And in deep leagues, I mean, DeMarcus Robinson had seven targets last week. He didn't do much with it, but he could, you know, he's only 15 percent rostered. Obviously, born

much bigger priority at 4% rostered. Jalen Koker is... This week, too, right? What'd you say? What'd you say? Good matchup? Yeah, it's a better matchup because Tampa Bay secondary is all beat up. Coker, we don't know that he'll be back this week, but we're

hoping he gives the offense a little jolt. Trey Tucker involved with six targets he gets a lot of deep balls so he could always make a big play Rashid Shahid against the Patriots not the easiest matchup

Ryan Flournoy now keep in mind with Flournoy I'm sure Jamie would bring this up but he got nine targets George Pickens had three and he was shadowed by Sauce Gardner so you know it probably won't be the same type

of target volume for Flournoy but you never know because they throw 40 times a game well you also have CD Lambs potential return. And this also came in a game where Cavante Turbin did not play. So there's injuries that could clearly impact the guy that's done nothing prior to this in his career. I'm also pretty sure Tolbert played more than Flournoy in the game for whatever that's worth. Dave already talked about Isaiah Bond, who had seven targets. Darnel Mooney's coming back.

We would love for him to rediscover that form he had last year, 52% rostered. I don't know for a fact that he's playing this week, but it seems like he will. uh darnal mooney josh downs is solid tory horton has three touchdowns in his last four games and christian watson 12 percent rostered should be back sometime in the next three weeks um yeah then there's a guy like troy franklin i feel like troy franklin could yeah i like franklin this week i should have added him that's what i do like him this week right because you know sutton's going to get yeah sudden's going to get sauced and number two i don't know if sudden's going to get soft i don't know if this is You mentioned the hand fighting.

I think Sutton's going to get his targets, though. Oh, he's going to get his targets. I do think that sauce will shadow him, though. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, yes. They will put some sauce on Sutton. But Calvin Austin, Emeka, Abuka, Ryan Flournoy, these are three number two wide receivers who were better than the number one wide receiver

that was shadowed by sauce gardener. Which means it'll be Marvin Mims. Yeah, it could easily. All right, tight ends. We got David Nijoku and Kyle Pitts available in shallow leagues. I think Dave prefers Pitts and Jamie Nojoku. Did I get that right? Those two, yes.

Okay. And then we got Mason Taylor, who's everyone's favorite. But refresh my memory. Najoku, Pitts, Taylor, who's your favorite of those three? Taylor. Pits. Okay. Yeah, the one thing I'll say about Pitts is like the last game we saw him go nuts

because Mooney was out in week one he played well with Mooney out. Like he needs Mooney to be out, I think, to be the best version of coppets. Brenton Strange was on the waiver wire list. He got hurt last night, but if you see him practicing this week and he's ready to play against Seattle, might not be the worst move, Brenton Strange. Theo Johnson, A.J. Barner, are next. Jake Tongis has been pretty solid.

He had 11 targets and a touchdown last week. Tampa Bay has allowed two touchdowns to a tight end in consecutive weeks, and that's Jake Tongass's matchup this week. Then you got Harold Fanon Jr., you got... Evan Ingram. Colston Loveland is interesting. Yes, I'm so glad you brought him up. Right.

There's just so many guys. And then Jamie had a good sleeper on the beat the waiver, on the early waiver wire show yesterday, and Michael Mayer, who actually has what looks like a pretty tough matchup against Tennessee. But Bowers is week to week, and mayor had the concussion, so hopefully he's back this week.

But I don't know. I said a lot of names there that we haven't talked about, Dave. I said Tongass, Fannan, Ingram, Loveland, Mayor. Thoughts on that group of five. How much time do we have? have because I'd love to say a little something about all of them, but I also know that we need to go like one at a time and we're getting near the end of the show. Yeah, I'll give you two minutes. All right. So let's start with Theo Johnson, who if there's no Darius Slayton, he's going to continue to see an uptick in targets like we've seen in the last couple of weeks. He's a big physical target. He's not like quick by any stretch of the imagination. He's more of a big lug who can win on contested catches. And I don't like the matchup against Philadelphia, but he could have one of those Zach Ertz lines as a floor. that's five for 50, that's 10 PPR points, seven red zone targets,

four end zone targets for Theo Johnson. That's way better than what we've seen for even Mason Taylor this year. And so I think there's a good opportunity for Theo Johnson. If you need a one week plug at tight end, especially if Slayton's out, I really would consider Theo Johnson. Loveland is a rest of season play. And the Bears coming off the by, we saw it in the game where Loveland got hurt in, got some targets early, looked like the bears were getting ready to start to use

him a little bit more in the offense. They could keep going in that direction if he's healthy and good to go in that game, or it might have been the game after that, I'm sorry, but one of those games, Cole Komet had nine targets and looked like a total mess. He only had three catches. Loveland is a great stash. He could end up being the next Mason Taylor, meaning rookie tight end that's getting a lot of opportunities.

Absolutely, we'd go and try and stash Loveland and see what you get out of him for the next week or two. I'm assuming that he's going to be active for their game this week. Jake Tongass, you talked about him, he's been outstanding, at least 14.8 PPR points each of his last two games, but absolutely a short-term option because once George Skiddle comes back, Tongus is a goner. And then Barner has scored a lot of touchdowns. Jamie talks about the dance. I think it's cool what he does. But that's an offense with JSN, Cooper Cup, and I think Barner's just like a short area target. It doesn't get a lot of first reads. It does get a little bit of attention in the red zone, obviously, but not some. that I would want to confidently start regardless of the matchup.

And it's Jacksonville this week. We saw Jacksonville do bad against Kelsey. They're not exactly the same type of player. So put me in the camp of Theo Johnson over A.J. Barner, as far as tight ends that you might use as a one-week option, Tongass would also be ahead of Barner. There are two tight ends on the waiver wire that are facing a team that has allowed four touchdowns to tight ends in their last two games. One of them I mentioned is Jake Tongass.

The other one is Evan Ingram. He's facing the Jets. In their last two games, they've given up four touchdowns to Darren Waller and Jake Ferguson. That is not the most reliable thing to go off of. That's the way it goes with tight end, but thought I'd mention that for you. There are a crummy defense that's missing its best pass rusher, one of its best middle linebackers.

He's coming back, though, Jermaine Johnson. Is he? Well, that actually would help them a little bit. hurts Bo Necks. Not that I'm a huge fan of Bo Nex this week anyway. I just feel like Ingram's got low upside. Yeah. A lot of short targets for him this year.

Not a lot downfield. One thing I have noticed is that over the last two weeks, Troy Franklin's A dot has gone up. And I think it might be because Evan Ingram is now playing that role that I thought Troy Franklin had stolen from Evan Ingram, Ingram back to getting those short targets. All right, DST's Patriots, definitely top the list. Raiders, Titans, behind them.

Hopefully you don't need a DST this week, but the Patriots have a great matchup this week and a great matchup in four of their next five weeks. Brandon McManus, Jason Myers, Chris Boswell, are your streaming options at Kicker. We will just end with this comment if I could find it. It was LMAO.

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