Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire! Chuba, Patrick, Darnold and More (09/23 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 28, 2021

Chuba Hubbard is the headliner this week but what are our expectations and how much FAB should you be spending on him? And if you can't get Hubbard, who are the other top priorities (8:40)? Tim Patrick could be the top WR available, and keep an eye on the Bills and Raiders WRs. What about a Patriots RB? And we have a long discussion about how to approach TEs on the waiver wire (12:00) ... FAB talk (21:30), news and notes (27:30) and the top players to add at each position. QBs (31:00) including Sam Darnold and Matt Ryan, RBs (33:00) including Zack Moss and Peyton Barber, WRs (35:40) including A.J. Green and Rashod Bateman as a stash, TEs (39:00) including Tyler Conklin and Dalton Schultz, plus DSTs (40:00), Kickers and IDPs ... Recapping Eagles-Cowboys (42:00), dusting off the Dropometer (50:00) and taking a longer look at the waiver wire at each position (53:00) ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Beck. Chuba Hubbard, Tim Patrick. Is there a Patriots running back we want? Perhaps is there a Patriots wide receiver we want? Gosh, we're really going for the Patriots on the waiver wire this week. Welcome, everybody.

Week four is upon us, and we've got to make some waiver claims. Adam Azer with Jamie Eisenberg and Dave Richard welcoming you to Fantasy Football Today. Jamie, how's the waiver wire looking in week four? There is a headliner and a bunch of backup singers, so we'll see how things go for Chuba Hubbard and how much fab is spent on him. That's going to be the fun part of this conversation. Everybody's adding him clearly across the board, but what are you going to spend?

That's the fun part of this scenario. I'd love to get a number of, a percentage of fab leagues. We could probably get that. Do you think we can get that? Not right now, but yeah, I'd like to know how many people,

I think it's getting much more popular. I, I'm, I feel confident saying that it's like a two QB league. You should be doing fab, but at least in some of your leagues, um, Dave, what do you make It does make it more fun.

And by the way, if you draft, if you do a snake draft to build your team and then you do fab in season, you're missing out on the fun of fab when building your team. You should be doing a salary cap draft. I wouldn't want... Okay, if you had 10 leagues,

how many would you want to be salary cap drafts? 10. No way. They're more fun. You would miss the snake drafts. I would miss the snake draft. You would. Yes, I miss picking 12th and waiting forever to make two picks and never getting great value.

I miss not having a chance to get the player I really want in every single draft. You would miss the opportunity to have Christian McCaffrey and A.J. Brown on your team if you had the first overall pick. Guillotine leagues are going to be fun this week. All right. Anyway, let's get into our top priorities here. Jamie, start with Chuba Hubbard. He's the lead singer, as you mentioned.

He had 11 carries for 52 yards and 46 of those yards came in the fourth quarter. He had five carries for six yards in the first three quarters in that game at Houston. He'll face Dallas this week, who shut down Miles Sanders, even though Miles Sanders averaged 13.5 yards per carry. We'll get into that. But anyway. They didn't shut down Miles Sanders. No, they didn't. I'm just kidding.

No, Nick Sirianni shut down Miles Sanders. Terrible play calling. How aggressive are we being on Chuba Hubbard considering McCaffrey is not going on IR? What do you think? So, Jason LaConfora wrote this weekend, our CBS Sports NFL insider, that he has less than a grade one hamstring strain.

And that according to the people he spoke to, it's a couple of of weeks so the fact that the that matt rule said not going on our which would be three weeks so go with the two week window let's just say that that's the case and so uh you mentioned dallas i think they have um philadelphia after that philadelphia after that uh which probably is not going to be the same run defense that it was earlier in the season after what we saw last night um so the way that i would the way that i wrote it was we already have a cautionary tale about going all in on a running back with our fab money right because our fab budget because people spent a ton on elijah mitchell

and that has clearly backfired so far it may still work out for you because we don't know how it's going to work long term but so far so far through two games, it's been a waste. If you're 0-3 or 1-2 and you have a running back situation that's bad, you're probably spending north of 50% is the way that I would approach it because what else do you have to lose at this point? You got to get a win. And if he helps you get a win for the next two weeks, that's what you're trying to do. But if you don't have that problem, I would probably put in a bid around 30% because if somebody doesn't put in anything higher,

then you're getting somebody for maybe two weeks that could be great. But it's also, we have to factor in as much as it seems like it's going to be Chuba Hubbard, there could be this scenario of Royce Freeman, you know, being the guy that they trust in certain situations. And that leads to a second half scenario,

a second game scenario of Freeman being better. The other side of that is we saw last year that, uh, Oh yeah, he'll be back in two weeks. He'll be back in three weeks with McCaffrey. He'll be back in four weeks with McCaffrey. And then 13 games later, you don't have Christian McCaffrey with two injuries. Um, and Chuba Hubbard could be Mike Davis who in the 12 games that he appeared for McCaffrey, because he didn't play in week 17, he had 15 or more PPR points in six of those games. So for half of his games, he was clearly really good. So that's the way you have to sort of game plan it. Is he worth all of your fab?

I would say no. Is he worth at least half at this point? I would say yes if you need a running back. And the other point, though, about Dallas, despite the fact that they have statistically done well against running backs from a rushing standpoint, their third and receptions allowed to the position, and running back groups against them have had at least seven receptions every game. Yeah, they score a lot of points, though,

so they could take you out of your game plan a little bit, but he had three catches, and we know Darnold's been throwing to McCaffrey a ton, so you'd think that you're going to get some catches out of Hubbard. And the offense threw to Davis last year, too, so that's what they did. Yeah, yeah. Sure. Dave, I don't know if you want to follow up on that. Let's forget the Fab. Let's

transition from Fab to just, I have the first waiver wire priority. Done. Not even close. But is he worth using it if it rolls over? Yes. Alright. Dave, how good do you think Chuba Hubbard is going to be if he plays two games against Dallas and Philadelphia?

He can be pretty good. I think that he's in a good offense. I don't think the offensive line is that great, but the way that they utilize their backs in the scheme certainly suggests that he'll get

a decent amount of touches. I'm a little worried, maybe a tad worried, that they saw that drop in the end zone and they go, okay, how much can we trust him? And that Royce Freeman ends up doing a little bit, maybe a tad worried, that they saw that drop in the end zone, and they go, okay, how much can we trust him? And that Royce Freeman ends up doing a little bit more work than we think.

But Hubbard does have... I'm not going to say that he's a consistent game-breaker when he runs the football. I mean, if he were, then he would have been drafted a lot sooner. But I think he's capable, and I would imagine that he'll see the majority of the touches in this Carolina backfield, and that's a good place to be. And I really think Jamie nailed it. If you're 0-3, you don't have a lot to lose at this point. You need to start winning games. Even if you don't need Hubbard, you should acquire him and then trade him if you can get something

good for him, and you should be able to get something good for him. So I think that he's one of those guys that you do have to make a big splash for and fab if your record sucks. If your record's okay, you shouldn't spend as much and just kind of price guard it, I guess. And top waiver claim for sure. Just to give you another perspective, I asked Heath yesterday on HQ what he would spend. He said 20%.

I said, you're not getting it. I don't think that's going to get it done. I think it's going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 30 to 50. There are going to be people that go north of 50 that need a running back and, again, that are in just dire straits because their season's flailing at this point. I think if you just approach it like you have a good flex play because, at worst, he's a flex because you know he's going to get the work. The only thing that I think, again, to go back to Royce Freeman is Mike Davis had been

in the league for a long time, you know, and Hubbard's still learning his way. And I think as we're seeing with this rookie class, um, how much maybe the shortened collegiate season played a role last year for some of these guys that it's taken even longer for them to get going. Um, we'll see how much they want to throw on Hubbard's plate. They had to last week. Clearly there's more of an opportunity because they had the Thursday game. So there's,

there's a lot to like about this situation, but I just don't want people to run into the Mitchell situation again, where, oh my gosh, here's the guy for however long there's the guy and he's not the guy. Yeah. And they did, they did work out Duke Johnson also.

Yeah. Okay. And maybe, you know, maybe a late waiver claim on Royce Freeman too. You never know. Hubbard is interesting because he was a Heisman candidate going into his junior year and he had a pretty bad year,

but he had a tooth that he, he rushed for 2,094 yards in 13 games in 2019. And he had nearly 2,300 scrimmage yards. And he had 22 and 23 catches his first two years at Oklahoma State. A lot of buzz going into his junior year, and he just kind of flopped, and he fell in the draft. All right, so if Chuba Hubbard is priority number one, give me two or three more priorities.

Dave. I think that if you need a receiver, Cole Beasley's probably too highly owned to find him off the waiver wire, so let's go with Tim Patrick, although he's highly rostered, too. I like that Patrick has a touchdown and or 90-plus yards in each of his three games. I just wish he'd get more targets. Problem is, Denver hasn't been in a game where they need to throw a lot, and I think Baltimore could be one of those games this week. So that would be good with Patrick.

There's a lot of other supplemental wide receivers that I would line up behind Patrick. Guys who you'll probably need during the bye weeks, certainly you'd want to have on your bench. It includes A.J. Green, who's giving you 10 non-PPR points each of his past two. He seems okay. It's a good offensive fit.

Jacoby Myers, we've talked about this. He's leading the Patriots far and away in targets and catches and yards. He just doesn't score, so he's better in PPR. Hunter Renfro is another name. He's had at least five catches and 50 yards in each game. And then I would say that that's the

next priority. I wouldn't make Peyton Barber a big priority other than saying he's a running back with a pulse who, if Josh jacobs doesn't play this week would have a semblance of opportunity against the chargers to at least start for you get you some points i don't think he can repeat what he did in week three by the way beasley's only 62 percent rostered and i think he has one fewer target than stefan diggs this year he's been very involved so uh cole Beasley and Tim Patrick

are both around 60% roster right now. So is Emmanuel Sanders. So is Jacoby Myers, who had a huge game, 14 targets, nine catches with James White out. And you've got to figure they're going to have to throw the ball a lot against the Bucs this week. Jamie, did we miss anything? Any other priorities you want to mention?

No, I mean, it's not the best running back situation because even though Barber had a strong game and does have 36 carries in the last two games with Jacobs out, it seems as if Jacobs is going to return in week four. So for those of you looking for running backs, it's not the best situation behind Hubbard. There is the Patriots guys with James White out,

like you mentioned at the top of the show. So it's more of the wide receivers. They've covered most of them. You know, I think you can, like, I would actually try and pick up Emmanuel Sanders over Colby, just because I think there's a little bit of a higher ceiling for him. Hunter Renfro has had a nice floor for three straight games, and so he should be added, I think, in PPR leagues also.

And then if you want to look at the tight ends, there's a lot of interesting options. I don't know if there's a lot of must-start options, but Tyler Conklin has two decent games out of the three, clearly a big one in Week 3. Dalton Schultz is coming off that tremendous game last night. Maybe that helps separate him from Blake Jarwin. The Giants' injuries might open the door for Evan Ingram

to maybe be something, even though he fumbled last week, which is frustrating once again. And then you have the trade from yesterday that could open the door for those two guys, Dan Arnold in Jacksonville and Tommy Tremble in Carolina. So deeper leagues, those guys are both available. So all the tight ends are really available aside from Ingram. But you can stream the position now, especially with guys like John O. Smith stinking. He's terrible.

A couple other guys, Dallas Goddard, if you want to pivot off him. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I've had sort of this moment of reflection of how I've approached tight end on the waiver wire for so many years. And you pick up these guys who aren't very good. Obviously, they're great players.

They're in the NFL. But you know what I mean? Not very good, and you hope for good matchups. Maybe we should just try to target tight ends on good offenses and hope they score. And so Dawson Knox, I think, is becoming pretty interesting. His target share is still very low, but that could change. I know they want to get the tight end involved.

He's had a touchdown in two straight games. Faces Houston this week, right? Buffalo at Houston. So maybe they won't need to throw that much. That's had a touchdown in two straight games. Faces Houston this week, right? Buffalo and Houston. Maybe they won't need to throw that much. That's always an issue. I don't know. Tommy Tremble or Dawson Knox. I might just gamble on

Knox and hope that the guy on the team that might throw 45 touchdowns, they're going to be inconsistent. There's no way you're getting consistency. No, but it's a good strategy. And I'll just go back to what I said when you brought this up last week. Don't chase Max Williams.

Right. So Knox has clearly a better track record. Yeah, I think he's different than Max Williams. But you're right. I mean, that is the same concept of good tight end. Well, I just, you know, because you had said good offenses and he was coming off a game with, you know,

seven targets, whatever it was, seven targets, seven targets seven catches i forgot he had um you know so just keep keep that in mind but i think just a bigger tight end discussion which we should have once again is you know if you're not happy mostly it's kyle pitts because i think the other five guys of the top six have been good you know andrew's finally had a good game so he makes people feel better and hock, two out of three. Pitts is the one that people are clearly the most frustrated about, is if you're not happy with that, just do this, and just

stream every week and hope for the best. You hope that you end up landing on somebody, whether it's Tyler Higbee with a later pick, who's had two or three good games, or Jared Cook. You could say good or bad start for him, however you want to slice it. That's the thing. I'm not getting away from Jared Cook to go the streaming route because I, you know, I just, I understand that there are going to be some really bad weeks,

but he had a touchdown call back in week two. And it's just what you're hoping for is that he's going to end up as a top 12 tight end because he's in a really good offense and he's going to catch enough touchdowns. You know what I mean? I'm not, I'm not going to end up as a top 12 tight end because he's in a really good offense and he's going to catch enough touchdowns uh you know what i mean i'm not i'm not going to drop him for dan arnold or or i'm not going to jump for dalton schultz even after last night's game would you right but i guess you what you could do is pick it pick up one of those guys and keep cook yeah and then just see what happens you could do that yeah i think it's i think it's the most fun position on the waiver wire this week. I like to classify tight ends a little differently. There's the must-start guys

and everybody knows who they are. Then there's the guys that have the chance to score and get you yardage on top of it. In PPR League's guys, they can get you catches on top of that. Then you've got basically the streaming position that you're in and you're hoping that a guy, you get a tight end that catches a touchdown. Jared Cook

is the poster boy for that. I think Dalton Schultz has a chance to be better than that. I think he can be one of those guys. He has six catches in two or three games. He's been playing right around 70% of the snaps. Adam, you mentioned it. You want a tight end on a team that scores a lot of points. The Dallas Cowboys score a lot of points.

I'm interested in Dalton Schultz. I know he's going to lose some numbers to Blake Jarwin, but I think he's a little bit more than a touchdown or bust type of tight end. And so if I'm really hurting that position, I drafted Johnnie Smith and I can't even look at him anymore because he's dropping every pass and throwing the ball in the air for pick sixes. I'm going in that direction. And honestly, if I had one roster spot and it's between Dalton Schultz or Jared Cook for my lineup this coming week, I know the Chargers are playing the Raiders, but I think Dalton Schultz or Jared Cook for my lineup this coming week. I know the Chargers are playing the Raiders, but I think Dalton Schultz has a little bit more upside.

Coughlin is somebody who I think can get you three or four catches a week. I know he had a huge game in week three. I don't see that being sustainable, but I see him as a guy that can get you minimal production and a touchdown or bust. I agree with you on Knox. What about Hunter Henry? If we're talking about John New Smith being a dud,

Hunter Henry is going to get in the mix and he's seen not great production, but at least low production consistently through the first season. What's enticing about that? If John who's off the field I may be the James White injury just opens up more targets for everybody. But again, the Patriots Mac Jones is not doing

anything special. He's not throwing the ball downfield at all. He's not throwing for touchdowns. It's great for tight ends. It's great for tight ends? No, those guys have been so bad, both of them collectively. Unless John is completely bent. If he's going to continue to dink and dunk, and Hunter Henry is the one who's playing more

and getting more targets than Johnnie Smith. Yeah, but he's got, what, 36 yards tops on the season? I mean, it's been ugly. They haven't scored 10 PPR points. If I'm streaming the position and i'm looking for somebody he's i gotta take my chances with arnold or or tremble at this point than one of the patriots guys i mean those guys are just terrible yeah maybe the light situation helps them but i mean this this will this will be an interesting week i just think the the two guys this was the fear going in was that they would cannibalize

each other in a low-volume passing attack. They're going to be throwing in this game because they're going to be chasing points. That could maybe help both of them, but unless one gets hurt or is just completely outright put on the bench, it's just too frustrating for me, so I'm staying away. That's what happened in the second half last week. John, who had too many drops, he got benched.

Yeah, and then Belichick said, you know, they're still going to go to him. They paid him too much money to sit him outright. Look, if you want to gamble, I guess, on Henry, he'd have to basically just dominate the tight end targets. I mean, it would have to be at the expense of Johnnie Smith. They're both involved. It's just going to be tough for one of them. But all right.

Johnnie's on your drop list, right, Jamie? Yeah. Yeah. So I agree with that 100%. Johnnie, right. Okay. DST. Is there a DST that maybe should be the second priority after Chuba Hubbard?

If you're good in your lineup. You can certainly make a case for the Bengals. Dave had a great call last week on them against the Steelers. They get the Jaguars this week. We've seen that turnover fest for Trevor Lawrence so far. The Colts look like an absolute nightmare right now. And you have, you know, no Quentin Nelson most likely. So the Dolphins for me would be second,

and then just Detroit's offense as a whole, I would take the Bears third and the Titans fourth, but you can make a case for the Colts too taking on the Dolphins also. Titans are fourth for you against the Jets? Their defense just stinks. I mean, that's just not a good team. As you might say, I see that that defense sinking and i raise you the jets off yes they're gonna play better at some point though so you can take a chance on them second

if you want yeah they the bangles might have a just a solid defense they've had three pretty good games as a dst um the titans gotta keep an eye on bud dupree he was active but he didn't play last week he played zero snaps he He's recovering from the ACL injury. I think they're saying that, you know, I think he played week two. This is a big free agent acquisition for them. They played week two, but recovering from the knee injury, they basically sat him in week three, so that was weird.

But the Jets, the Jaguars have been a great matchup for DSTs. The Jets are giving up six more points per game to DSTs than the Jaguars. So you've got some options at DST this week. All right, listen, we've got more time tonight to talk to you about who to pick up, who to add and drop. We've got a Q&A scheduled for tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern on YouTube, youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. Tuesdays at 8 p.m., Thursdays at 2 p.m., Sunday, 11.30 a.m. Eastern, and then 8.15 p.m., Thursdays at 2 p.m., Sunday 11.30 a.m. Eastern, and then 8.15 p.m. Eastern on Sunday night around then. We try to start a little bit earlier.

We do our podcast live, our Sunday night recap. Again, it's all on youtube.com slash fantasyfootballtoday. We'll see you tonight at 8 o'clock. Quick email of the day from Ian from the home of the Beatles in England. How do I not know? I know where they're from. Liverpool. Is that where it is?

Okay. That's killing me. What's with me? Dear Eleanor, Jude, Lucy, and Lady Madonna. It's funny you mention that because I picked up my kids from school yesterday and one of the safety patrol kids was holding the door open

for my two older ones and the oldest ones in fourth grade. And I thought it was a friend of his and said, oh, make him listen to the Beatles. I was like, okay. And I said, who is that? He goes, I don't know. That's so weird. That kid is just on a mission. A fifth grader telling a fourth grader to listen to the Beatles that he doesn't even know.

Pete, I got to tell you, the Beatles are not bad. I listened to them the other day. They're okay. All right, so here's the question. This is just for the listeners, for all of you out there. Submit your answers. Let's get something going here. Let's coin some phrases on Ian's email.

Is there a term for winning a game with the second lowest score of the week? Conversely, is there a term for losing your game your week with the second highest score of the week? So winning with the second lowest score, losing with the second highest score, we need to come up with some terms for that. Email us, fantasyfootball at cbsi.com.

You could tie it into what Jalen Hurd said after the game last night if you didn't see this. No, what did he say? Oh, Jalen Hurd said about the offense, you take a deuce, you don't sit there

and look at it, you flush it and move on. We're going to flush it and move on. Wow. Okay. So yeah, email us. That's pretty interesting. First of all, everybody looks at it. Do you guys want to have a fab discussion? A fab discussion?

That's part of what we do. Yeah, so we already talked about Hubbard. Jamie said about 50% if you really need it, about 30% if you don't. At least 50%, not about at least. I think it's really risky with McCaffrey. We've already laid out all the scenarios. But yeah, man, if you're 0-3 or 1-2, what the heck are you waiting for, I guess? Anyone else worth more than 10%? Worth more than 5%? I mean, Patrick, at least you know his role is locked in

because Hamler's now out for the season. And Judy, we don't know exactly when he's coming back. And we saw this from Patrick last year. Dave already mentioned it, that we haven't seen a big target share for him yet. But that could potentially be coming. And look, he's been more consistent than Cortland Sutton. So, you know, last year, good. This year, so far, good.

On the field for the rest of the season. If something happens to Sutton, as well as Judy going down, then he is the number one guy. But I don't think more than 15%. You know, again, we're talking about a guy that's near the threshold already. So this is more for shallow 12-team leagues and 10-team leagues where you're looking at a receiver. So I think 15% is probably the max. The tight ends, you could tell me Conklin's the best one this week,

next week, or Knox is the best one this week, or Schultz is the best one this week. There's no one that stands out above the rest. They're all, you know, uh, fighting for scraps at the table. Um,

so no, I don't think there's anybody significantly more than 15%, but I would say you can go up to 15 for Patrick, just based on what we've seen from him so far. Dave, there, there could be some tight ends. Just the one that you like the best.

I think 7% gets it done for tight ends. Okay, Dave, there are, there could be some players like kirk cousins cordell patterson is 67 percent rostered um michael pitman's about 82 percent rostered so let's say i mean look that's what we're talking yeah yeah let's say we're in those leagues are they must ads and patterson might even be available in some 12 team leagues uh you know like who Who's a season-long rosterable player? Is Patterson, is Pittman, is Cousins, is Ruggs? What do you think, Dave?

You pretty much named them all. We're all worried about Cordell Patterson being phased out eventually, but last week he played not quite as many snaps as Mike Davis, but the margin between them was the closest it's been yet this year. Matt Ryan has turned into Alex Smith. He's checking down so much. It's really pathetic. It's killing Calvin Ridley, and it's hurting the target volume for Kyle Pitts,

and it's absolutely making Cordell Patterson an actual useful fantasy player that you can start at running back or wide receiver. So if he's out there and you need help at running back and maybe you already blew most of your fab on Elijah Mitchell, you know, you're not going to get Chuba Hubbard and by some miracle Patterson's there. I think you've got to, I think you got to chase him. I think you got to put him on, put him on a big waiver claim. You got to spend a lot of fab to get him just so you've got a running back. Who's got some spend a lot of fab to get him just so you've got a running back who's got some potential, especially in leagues where

catches count from league to league. I think Pittman's going to continue to be a modest floor PPR type of receiver. The game that you got last week is probably going to be what you can expect from him. Right around 12 PPR points. Don't like him as much in non-PPR or half PPR.

Ruggs is obviously just a big play guy. You're hoping that he catches a deep ball and scores on it, something like that. Modern day Deshaun Jackson, not as excited about him. Cousins is excellent. Cousins is one of several quarterbacks that I think might be out there in those shallow leagues, those 10-team leagues, where if you want to pivot away from Jalen Hurts or anybody else that you're just not happy with at quarterback, you can go right to Cousins and not feel bad about it. I like the Raiders' schedule for the passing game.

I love Zach Moss. I think there's a breakout coming by far because he's just starting to figure it out. And you're seeing now seven targets in back-to-back games. He had been five targets or less each of the first two games. What he did last week against Xavier Howard was much better than I think people are going to give him credit for. He's just scratching the surface, I think, of what he could become. Wait, who?

Who? Who? Who are you talking about? Ruggs. Jamie, I thought you were talking about Zach Moss. Oh, you said Zach Moss. I did? Yeah, yeah.

Okay, we are talking about the— I don't disagree with you. I think Zach Moss is starting to figure it out. No, I'm sorry. I guess rewind. Henry Ruggs is just scratching the surface. I think there's a breakout coming for him. So I love the setup for him with what he's done

for the last two weeks of the season. Moss also is also worth picking up across the board because what you saw from him last week was kind of what I was expecting for him to be the entire season. It was the lead running back for the Bills. The best running back for the Bills, at least. And so I think both those guys should be added across the board. I would nervously take Moss ahead of Cordero if both were available in your shallow league.

Yeah, I would take Moss confidently over Cordero. Okay. So one way or another, we're taking Moss over Cordero Patterson. And you should really be taking a look at Lightstream. Are your credit card bills keeping you up at night? Are your interest rates in the double digits? Lightstream can certainly help here. Be smart and pay off your credit card balances with a credit card consolidation loan from Lightstream. Rates start at 4.98% APR with auto pay and excellent credit. And the rate is fixed. It will never go up over the life of the loan. You can get a loan from $5,000 to $100,000 with no fees. You can get your money as soon as the day you apply. And Lightstream just wants to help you out

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4.98% APR to 19.99% APR and include a 0.5% auto pay discount. Lowest rate requires excellent credit. Terms and conditions apply and offers are subject to change without notice. Visit lightstream.com slash FFT for more information. News and notes. McCaffrey not on IR. We mentioned that. Jacobs could play this week. James White is probably going to be out for a while.

He has a hip subluxation. Sounds very painful. I don't really know what it is. What is it? Dislocated hip. Oh, yeah. It's the same injury that Ryan Fitzpatrick suffered. So, you know, no surgery for Fitzpatrick as they're trying to rehab it.

We'll see if the same thing happens for White. He's almost certainly going on IR. Daryl Henderson could play this week as they get Arizona. Any word on Dalvin Cook? None, but you got to hope that he's close because he was close last week. The Chiefs signed Josh Gordon. Does anyone care about this?

Deep Dynasty League is not a bad flyer to see. But it's been a long time since he's been relevant. I'm happy for him. Yeah, it's good to have him back. Let's hope he can stay. He's getting these chances. Philadelphia left guard Isaac Sayamala

was carted off the field. So, back to where we were with the Eagles. Their line is battered again. That's three. I don't know the extent of this one,

but Brooks out for the year. Sayamala, you don't want to see a guy carted off and they were without their starting left tackle last night? Yeah.

Rashad Bateman is eligible to return. We talking about him? Sounds like he's in practice. Yeah. Anyone interested in Baltimore rookie receiver Rashad Bateman? He is someone worth stashing. Okay. Julio Jones was dealing with tightness in week three.

That's why he did not play down the stretch. The Bears could start any of their three quarterbacks, Fields, Foles, or Dalton this week against Detroit. Oh, man. I'm going to tell you, this one bothered me. I didn't really like these comments from Cliff Kingsbury. He thought, apparently there was a punt to Rondell Moore, and the referee threw a flag during the play,

and the flag hit the ball as it was on its way down toward Rondell Moore. The ball sort of ricocheted off the flag just a little bit. Moore muffs the punt. They recovered it. Arizona recovered it. They didn't know at the time that the flag even hit the ball. He said that the referee, if they hadn't recovered the football,

the referee should have been ejected. I think that is so unfair. The guy made a mistake, Cliff King. What are you, perfect? Give me a break. Give me a break. All right, anyway, thank you for letting me.

I didn't like it. Two Pittsburgh offensive linemen left with injuries. I mentioned that yesterday, but just to recap, that's bad to worse, as I mentioned yesterday. Two Colts cornerbacks left with injuries. New Orleans left tackle Teron Armstead is out. He's going to miss some time with an elbow injury. Jamie mentioned KJ Hamler towards ACL.

Sterling Shepard likely to miss some time. Don't know about Darius Slayton right now. Giants middle linebacker Blake Martinez towards ACL. I mentioned yesterday Tay Crowder had 11 tackles, seven of them assisted. Tay Crowder, if you're looking for an IDP replacement, I don't know, he could be okay. San Francisco beat up at cornerback,

and the Panthers acquired C.J. Henderson from the Jaguars. They gave up Dan Arnold. There were some draft picks exchanged. All right, let's give a lot of names here, guys, some priorities at each position. We can dive deeper into them later. Jamie, start us off with quarterbacks to look at on the waiver wire. Sam Darnold will be the first one to look

at. Probably going to be chasing points this week against Dallas, but he's been 21 or more PPR points in every game this season. At least you've seen him be productive. Maybe he uses his legs a little bit more, as we saw with the two rushing touchdowns in week three

with McCaffrey not there. Maybe a goal line opportunity or two for him. Taylor Heineke would be the second quarterback for me. You've seen at least 23 fantasy points in the two starts that he's made for Ryan Fitzpatrick. Also used his legs last week. Didn't see that too much in week two, but we know he's capable of that. And great matchup this week against Atlanta. And then Dave said Matt Ryan has not played well,

but he does get Washington this week and they've allowed the most fantasy points to opposing quarterbacks so far on the season. So maybe there's a get right game coming for Washington, excuse me for Ryan taking on Washington. And at least, you know, he's, he had a 20 point game two weeks ago,

19 points last week. So this could be an opportunity for him to maybe get on a little bit better side of the ledger and help fantasy managers if you're stuck. Okay. Dave, running backs, we have Chuba Hubbard. And by the way, just to recap, Jamie said Sam Darnold, Taylor Heineke, and Matt Ryan. Are we given, should we just drop Daniel Jones

and Teddy Bridgewater, or are they holds? I mean, you can. I didn't put them on the drop list. You know, it's hard to overlook, you know, the three-game sample size, excuse me, the two-game sample size of Daniel Jones versus one, you know, disappointing game because, again, he still runs.

He did run in that game. But losing the two receivers, you know, I think you take a hold approach if he's, you know, not your starter. You know, if you need to make a move, clearly that's a guy you can drop. And then Beasley, same thing. You know, I want to see what happens

in this game against Baltimore. I don't like the matchup for either guy. Bridgewater. But I would hold both of them. Bridgewater, right? Did I say Beasley? Yeah. I'm in the middle trying to figure out the way we're starting.

Are you a Bills fan today? What is going on? Every time. All right, Dave, running back. Bridgewater, excuse me. Other than Hubbard. Other than old mother Hubbard. Two-name Tuesday, I called old mother Hubbard by the way go ahead double check to make sure zach moss

cordero patterson naheem hines aren't out there in your leagues they're still available in at least 25 of cbs leagues if they're there go ahead and grab them i would still rather um i don't know about rest of season moss versus hubbard i might take moss over hubbard knowing that moss has a chance to help you rest of the year whereas hubbard. I might take Moss over Hubbard, knowing that Moss has a chance to help you rest of the year, whereas Hubbard could end up getting replaced. After those guys, it's just, it's ugly. I mean, Kyle Juszczyk, maybe,

assuming that Elijah Mitchell doesn't come back, that would be kind of pathetic if he was second on the list. Royce Freeman is out there in 99% of leagues. Don't love him. I'm waiting for the Patriots to give JJ Taylor an opportunity. I don't know why they didn't do it in week three. They gave Brandon Bolden all the work in the passing game.

I'm not ready to say to go get Brandon Bolden off the waiver wire. Special teams guy who just had to be thrust into action. And I don't know. The one other running back that's available in a lot of leagues, if you've got the bench space to get him and stash him, is Jeff Wilson. And we've been saying it every week. Eventually, he's going to come back,

and eventually they'll have a chance to claim a role in this 49ers run game. He's available in 88% of leagues. Okay. And for the Patriots running backs, they are obviously throwing to their running backs a lot. Bolden had three catches after the white injury. You just don't know who's going to play that role because it would be fairly

valuable in fantasy. I think I would hope it's Harris. I mean, you know, that's the best case scenario is that Damian Harris takes, takes on the majority of that work. And James White had 13 targets in the first two games with 12 catches. JJ Taylor is the one that would profile the most, unless it's Bolden, just because of

Bolden's history with the team. But Taylor, 2019 in Arizona, had 32 catches. Stevenson wasn't a pass catcher at Oklahoma, whereas Taylor at least showed you something collegiately that you might be able to say that could translate to the NFL if in fact it does so you know just the fact that he's playing over Stevenson already would maybe give you a give him a slight edge and give you a slight edge but I mean it wouldn't surprise me if it's Bolden you know he's going to be on the field because he's going to be active because of his role on special teams so they may just prefer to mix and match those two guys uh Stevenson should probably be elevated now as they you know fill the spot but it just doesn't seem like anybody right now is going to step out until we see it, you

know? So if you want to try and get ahead and you have an open roster spot, I would, I would probably go Taylor Stevenson Bolden. Um, but you know, it could be Bolden after week four and wide receivers, Jamie, uh, the, the top three, you know, would be probably the two Bills, Patrick and the two Bills. You know, sticking with my love of the Bills. Sanders and Beasley. You can, you know, whichever one you like better.

I think Sanders might have a higher ceiling coming, you know, because of his touchdown potential. But Beasley clearly, you know, two games with 13 targets on the season is hard to overlook. But I think the problem is that when we look at his roster percentage, I think for him, 62% is probably the max of the PPR leagues. You know what I'm saying? He's probably at the point where there's not a lot of PPR leagues

where he's available. It's more non-PPR leagues, and we know that's not going to be his best format. Whereas Sanders, I think, could be useful in both because they think he'll score more at least. So gauge it that way if you want. But if you get past those guys I think AJ Green as we've seen you know his his targets have been there and you know last two weeks finding the end zone certainly last week looked much better and then you know I know we

had Jacoby Myers as a as a drop last week but you have to factor in two things one you know I'll go back to what I wrote what I said that was more of a non-PPR thing that you should be dropping him hold him in a PPR league and we we saw the benefit of that with the targets and the receptions. And now the James White injury. So he just might be the one that gets the best production as a result of White being out. Sammy Watkins, Hunter Renfro, these guys are getting a decent amount of involvement.

Is there a decent amount of interest in them? And did you mention Jacoby Myers, by the way? I just did. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Renfro would be the next guy. Yeah, I think, you know, you look at this receiving core. You know, I think I said, I don't remember which show I said it on, but on paper, they fit every description.

You know, Waller, the number one guy, whatever position you want to designate him. Renfro, the possession guy. Ruggs, the deep threat. Edwards, the guy they hope can do it all, more of a you know traditional number two guy that doesn't necessarily get a lot of targets but makes plays when he gets his targets and um renfro just been steady eddie you know he's a he's like a poor man's cole beasley uh he gets the job done when the ball's thrown to him you know touchdowns are going to be hard to come by i think but you know

you need a safe you know week of a ppr option option. He should be rostered close to the percentage I think where Beasley's at. Yeah, he's pretty available. Hunter Renfro is 19% rostered. He has five or more catches in all three games. And if you were going to take a shot on a first-round rookie just to stash, Kadarius, Tony, or Rashad Bateman? I'll say Bateman just because I think Lamar's doing well. I think that the Ravens have a plan on getting him involved in the offense.

I think he's a good type of rangy outside receiver. It might take him a little while to actually get into the swing of things in that offense and to certainly get the type of target volume that we would like. But he's one of several receivers that I would be interested in putting on my, my stash list. And he might be at the top of the list. Okay. Yeah. I guess I made the case for Tony is just the injuries. You know, if they're going to be so beat up you know, I, you know,

you saw what Colin Johnson did. You saw what CJ board did when the one catch they got to get Tony going, you know, so I would just, you know, bank on those guys being out and Galladay is not a hundred percent either. So, you know, if you're looking at it, the, the target potential,

I think would probably favor Tony just looking at the offense he plays in. Cause Marquis Brown and, and Mark Andrews and what they've done with Sammy Watkins. Like, I don't know where we're baiting and we'll fit in right away, you know, just based on how much they're going to throw the ball, how little they throw the ball and what those other guys have done.

Tight ends, Dave, who are your top three tight ends? Schultz is my favorite tight end. I like that he's got six catches in two or three games. I like that he's playing right around 70% of the snaps. We mentioned it earlier. It's a tight end who's got a chance to score a touchdown in a high scoring passing type of offense. So I'm a big fan of his.

Conklin would be my second favorite guy. I feel a little icky that I'm chasing the points after week three but i know that he's been playing a lot in the offense and i think he'll have some good weeks moving forward dawson knox would be third and then after that it's it's a messy list i've got hooper following him and then uh henry tremble arnold firemuth but a lot of tight ends out there that's it's the one thing that's nice about the position following him, and then Henry, Tremble, Arnold, Friermuth. But a lot of tight ends out there. That's the one thing that's nice about the position is that you can make a case for pretty much any of these guys to be worth some attention.

Sure. Especially Tommy Tremble because, not especially, but the Cowboys might be that team this year. They should have been even worse against tight ends last night. Dallas Goddard was wide open for a huge play, and Jalen Hurts missed them, an easy throw. Hurts scored. I mean, they really suck against tight ends so far.

So that's Carolina versus Dallas. Pretty big game early in the year for those two teams. Our top DSTs, we already talked about the Titans. I think Dave would have them first or second. Jamie has them fourth at the moment. We like the Bengals. Bengals, Titans, Dolphins. Who else?

Packers. Against the same Steelers team that the Bengals just beat up on. And they're available in 73% of leagues. Jamie, which kickers? The kickers would be Randy Bullock against the Jets, Greg Joseph against the Browns, Chase McLaughlin against the Vikings, and Evan McPherson against the Jaguars.

IDP, I already mentioned, take router. I don't really have a gauge for how deep people need to go in IDP leagues. Anytime there's a linebacker who can get you. So, I mean, in a super deep one. Anytime there's a linebacker who can get you 10 tackles a game, it's worth bringing up. Yeah, I don't know that Crowder can, but Blake Martinez was one of the best tackling linebackers in the NFL, and he's out for the year.

I still mention Cole Holcomb for Washington. He had 10 tackles this week. And then this guy really needs to be rostered. I didn't look at his snap rate. He's 16% rostered. Cole Holcomb, I didn't look at his snap count in week three, but I think in weeks one and two, he played every snap.

That's their guy. Javon Hargrave, defensive tackle. I picked him up last week because I had been reading a lot of good things about him. The Eagles love him. He had two sacks and a forced fumble last night. He had a huge game. That's probably going to be his best game of the year. But it's really hard to find defensive tackles who can do anything.

And Javon Hargrave could be one of them. And he's 28% rostered. I didn't realize he was that rostered. Anyway, this is obviously not my strong suit, but I'll give you some names to think about anyway. All right. We're going to take a quick break here. When we come back, we'll recap Dallas and Philadelphia, tell you who to drop and go

a little bit deeper into the waiver wire. We will be right back. Did you know 66% of utility damage is caused by not requesting a locate? Don't let your project become part of this statistic. A quick locate request can save you from unexpected downtime financial penalties and keep you safe don't let avoidable damage cost you time and money click before you dig ensure your next project is safe visit ontarioonecall.ca it's free it's easy it's the law data sourced from the orcga 2023 dirtirt Report. Dallas 41 and Philadelphia 21. Cowboys had the ball for just about 35 minutes. The Eagles really did not play well.

We were very disappointed in Eagle Nation last night, I got to tell you. It's two straight weeks. Yeah, I don't think. I mean, the Cowboys are such the obvious front runner in the division now. Mm-hmm. Okay.

That's great. It really does, yeah. Most turnovers forced in the NFL, eight Your defense looks great. It really does, yeah. Most turnovers forced in the NFL, eight turnovers, I believe, in three games. That is insane. They still obviously have some trouble.

I mean, they're not a great defense, but they're forced to run. Well, I mean, they're doing this without Lawrence. Gregory missed last week. They're moving Michael Parsons around, so they're figuring out their linebacker core. But isn't it funny? We always talk about, and Pete makes this reference all the time, X's and O's versus Jimmy's and Joe's. Look at the difference that Dan Quinn and Gus Bradley have made in the places that they're at right now.

Quinn with the Cowboys and Bradley with the Raiders. Those guys coach. You see where coaching matters and scheme matters and putting guys in the Raiders. Those guys coach. You see where coaching matters and scheme matters and putting guys in the right places. Those two defenses have just dramatically changed from where they were a year ago. Now getting guys healthy clearly has helped and some personnel changes, but give those

guys credit for what they've done. Dallas might have themselves a lockdown cornerback too with Trevon Diggs. That guy's awesome. He spent a lot of time on Devontae Smith who had a terrible game. Dave, you take the Eagles. What did you see from the Eagles? Not much.

Not much good. You did get 24 points from Hurts, which is a miracle. It really was. When you go back and you think about all the bad plays that he had and the fact that they were just killed in time of possession in the first half especially, it definitely was messy messy I think Hurts is someone that fantasy managers can still start but you might want to get another quarterback on your bench just in case he goes further south I think

the problems stem beyond him I think the offensive line issues are going to be real and I think the play calling just has been really rough the last couple of weeks. Not to say that Hurts hasn't made some mistakes. You talked about the throw to Goddard that he missed, the interception from Diggs. He stared down Smith, and Smith fell on the play. But he might have been picked off anyway, even if he hadn't fallen down.

It's going to be hard to really trust players in this offense. Moving forward, there will be some good weeks. I would imagine that Miles Sanders will get more work next week how could he not after only having two carries in week number three but I'd be a little concerned about him definitely have to be concerned about Smith because if Hertz isn't throwing well Smith isn't going to do great in the last two weeks of an absolute duds for him Goddard was their leading receiver with 66 yards. He should have had a better game and he watched Zach Ertz score a touchdown.

It's kind of a tough team to watch right now and it's hard to feel really good about anybody in Philadelphia. I feel great about Ertz. You do? Because he really played like garbage. He's a good fantasy quarterback. That's all I care about. I don't care how ugly it is.

He's getting the job done. This is now three straight games with what? Over 22? Is he really getting the job? 21 last week, 24 this week. Yeah, I mean, that's the floor. Maybe, but he really played horribly. Oh, he played like crap, like he said.

That's what running quarterbacks do. He's going to be throwing late in games because his team's not going to be very good. And he's going to get to his rushing production. The floor is very safe. Okay. Let's go to the Cowboys then. Heath brought this up

last week on the Believe It or Not after the Week 2 recap. He said, Believe it or not, Dak Prescott has a Jerry Jones problem in that they were going to run the ball a lot. Prescott, they had the ball for 35 minutes and he threw 26 times. Obviously, they were in control of the game. Prescott could have had such a big game. I mean, Zeke

and Lamb were both half a yard short of receiving touchdowns. Dak got stopped. He really scored. I mean, I think he probably scored, but they didn't count it on the quarterback sneak. So he could have had an enormous game. But you look at the pass volume and the fact that he has, I think,

19 rushing yards in three games. Is this a fantasy issue, Jamie, for Dak Prescott? Slightly. Yeah, I mean, they're running the ball well. And you saw it last week. You saw it this week, mostly. I think the narrative has changed a little bit, was he? I think so.

And he looks good. You know, Zach Martin back, certainly has changed things. Wait till they get Lyle Collins back, and hopefully everybody's healthy. You know, we haven't seen this offensive line in full strength. This is the best offense, maybe in football, you know, just with what they can do in all facets of the game. And getting Michael Gallup back also at some point, too.

You know, Cedric Wilson had what looked like a nice catch, he was clearly out of bounds, but got the touchdown at the facets of the game and getting Michael Gallup back also at some point too you know Cedric Wilson had what looked like a nice catch he was clearly out of bounds but um got the touchdown at the end of the game uh this you know and and they have the luxury of the two tight ends it's thanks for fantasy that one may not ever fully separate I agree with Dave Dalton Schultz should be added but you know like Darwin's still a problem as we saw in week two um it's just it's just a fun team but Dak may not reach the heights that we thought because of the run game being maybe as good as it can be. That hurt Lamb and Cooper, obviously, because what we

saw in week one was amazing. Are we really going to get double-digit targets from these guys every single week and huge numbers from them every single week? The last two weeks have proven that there is definitely a downside to these guys. I would imagine they are both good by low candidates. I think it's shocking that Amari Cooper has had 50 yards in his last two games

on nine targets without Michael Gallup. And that is just 50 yards combined. That is crazy. Lamb at least had 81 yards last week, and he was a foot away from a touchdown on the opening drive. It's kind of wild.

Would you guys rather have Dak or Hertz the rest of the season? I'd still rather have Dak. Still Dak, but it's not that far off. I'm really interested in the rushing. There have been stretches where he doesn't run that much, and then he'll'll have a game with a lot of rushing guards but it never coming off the injury that he came off of well they they uh the mannings made reference to that

payton said he talked to dac and there was the run where it was a design run to the left and dac barely got back to line of scrimmage and and just you know dove yeah and he said you know fourth down play he's he's gonna you know make the effort but he said he's making a conscious effort to not take those unnecessary hits which is smart i'd rather him not run and play 16 or 17 games than you know run a few times and miss a few games sure uh also i don't know did you guys hear the bob ross play if you're watching the manning broadcast you probably didn't hear it but uh they ran you actually watched the other broadcast i did i i you're the one? Yeah, I am. I'm still that guy.

This is what you get to hear. You get to hear them calling the plays in the line of scrimmage. So, Dax in the shotgun. He goes, Bob Ross! Bob Ross! And Greasy's like, Bob Ross likes the paint. I bet this is a draw. And it was a draw play to Ezekiel Elliott. And he's like, gosh, quarterbacks aren't that smart. And somebody said, yeah, defensive linemen

aren't that smart either. Is that better than LeBron calling the, uh, the Zeke touchdown? Right, right, right, right. No,

I didn't see that. No, you did not. That was on the Manning, the Manning cast. It's so much better than anything else. It is. But,

but from our standpoint, I mean, I just think there are some, I think it's from my standpoint, at least that there are some things I could see and learn in the broadcast the real world. I think actually that's why Peyton did what he did. We'll learn more in the Manning broadcast. Peyton said he spoke to McCarthy this week, and he spoke to Dak. So obviously he's trying to.

He's getting there. He's trying to do his homework also. Yeah. But I mean, they were making fun of Peyton. Eli was making fun of Peyton's armpits. I flipped a little bit. I saw it. It's good stuff.

All right. Drop-O-Meter, 0-10. Robbie Anderson, 3. I'm going to give it one more week, so 0. Rondell Moore? Zero. LaVisca Chenault? One. Really?

I can't drop LaVisca Chenault? If it's in non-PPR, it's higher. Targets have gone down each of the three weeks, and now Dan Arnold's there, which is going to be a problem. They're going to try and force feed Arnold the ball. So yeah, Chenault to me is across the board. Joe Burrow. Jacksonville this week.

Green Bay at Detroit. I mean, it could be some favorable stuff here, but not throwing the ball. He hasn't thrown the ball more than 30 times in any game. Joe Burrow, 0-10. 4. Okay. Will Fuller, 86% rostered.

2. 5. Oh, 5, 86% rostered. Five. Oh, five, two. All right. I mean, it's hard to imagine Fuller being great in the short term. I don't think you want to drop him long term, though. And how about Corey Davis, 88% rostered? Zero. Four.

Okay, you guys disagree. All right. Waver wire. He got 10 targets in two or three games. Yeah, someone dropped him in a league I'm in. I picked him up, Corey Davis. I don't think I'm going to drop him. That's a guy, if you need a running back and Chuba Hubbard's there, though.

Sure. Yeah, of course. That goes without saying. Everybody you named, you could drop for Chuba Hubbard if you had the worst player on your bench. I think if you're 2-1 or 3-0, I don't know that you're dropping Will Fuller for Chuba Hubbard. You're the worst player on your bench. I think if you're 2-1 or 3-0, I don't know that you're dropping Will Fuller for Chuba Hubbard. You might end up regretting that.

Oh, you can't. I mean, there's receivers who are replaceable for Fuller, but you drop anybody that's not starting for you or has no chance of starting for you that you're speculating on for Chuba Hubbard. That's an easy one. You can drop Fuller. You can pick up Chuba Hubbard.

You can flip Chuba Hubbard, and no one's going to take Will Fuller off the waiver wire. I would take Will Fuller off the waiver wire in a second. Fuller will be added, but he's not going to be added like Hubbard is going to be added. So you would drop Will Fuller for Chuba Hubbard? Yes. No, I said if you're 2-1 or 3-0. Yes, yes, yes.

Because what if, again, McCaffrey's injury lingers? You'd be kicking yourself for not picking up Hubbard. Probably, although I just, I think we all have to wonder how good Hubbard's going to be in this opportunity. Oh, of course, there's questions. It's not Alexander Madison. The problem, look,

Will Fuller's got a world of potential and can still be good even with Jacoby Brissett. I'm not going to judge him based on last week after shaking the rust off for not practicing in the preseason and then playing his first game of the year. But the potential of what the starting running back could be for two weeks versus what Will Fuller could be over the next 14 games,

that's not close. All right, let's talk about the waiver wire. And I think every week with quarterbacks, it's just a lot of fantasy managers have their starting quarterback. And it's hard. Who are you benching for? Sam Darnold, Taylor Heineke, Matt Ryan, Jacoby Brissett. It's funny because we talk about the running backs and receivers

of the 70% range, those guys. We speak to 10-team leagues, but the quarterbacks are speaking to 14- to 16-team leagues. Right, right. Until we get to the bye weeks. Yeah, so Darnold, do you think he gets to 20 points at Dallas? Yeah. He's got a shot, sure.

Back-to-back 300-yard games for the first time in his career and only a 2.8% touchdown rate. It's not a guy who throws a lot of touchdowns, but that is very, very low. So maybe there's something there at Dallas and then Philadelphia and then Minnesota. He's got an opportunity the next three weeks. Taylor Heineke at Atlanta

and Matt Ryan against Washington. These two teams have given up the most fantasy points to quarterbacks. Taylor Heineke, Matt Ryan, Bonanza. I'll save it. I'll save it for Friday. You know, there's one other quarterback that if you're 3-0 and you're

just trying to load up for the long term, it's Trey Lance. Available in 55% of leagues. I don't think his time is imminent, but it's going to come eventually this year where he'll get in there and play. You see that Jalen Hurts can have a bad game and still get you a good

fantasy production. Trey Lance can do the exact same thing. Let's go to the running backs. The shallow league guys, James Conner, Alexander Madison, they're 80-82% rostered. Naeem Hines, 74%. Zach Moss, 70%.

Cordaro Patterson, 67%. Just quick numbers here on James Conner. He's basically got the Kenyon Drake role, except Drake averaged 16 carries per game. Conner's averaging 11.7. Drake had 1.7 catches per game. Conner has one catch in three games.

So that's why it's not exactly the same type of value. No, but if Edmonds gets hurt, then Conner is a must-start across the board. Yeah, but we don't, yeah. And obviously he can always score you some touchdowns. But if Edmonds gets hurt, then Connor is a must start across the board. Yeah. But we don't. Yeah. And obviously, he can always score you some touchdowns. Would you drop JD McKissick?

74% rostered? I wouldn't in PPR, but in non-PPR, yes. I mean, you know, he's good. This is Naeem Hines and JD McKissick are the same. You know, they're the Spider-Man meme. They're going to have one good week, one bad week, two good weeks, three bad weeks. That's just the nature of that position and what they do. It was frustrating, though, because Washington was trailing behind badly

against Buffalo, and McKissick didn't have a good game. Didn't have a ton of targets, either. Yeah, I know. It's weird. Chargers' run defense, by the way, looks like it's pretty bad so far. So, Peyton Barber at 7% rostered, coming off a 100-yard game.

You know, he may not obviously, Jacobs could be back, but should we be taking the gamble on Peyton Barber on waivers and thinking, like, let's say Jacobs is out. Is he a top 24 running back? No, but top 30. You know, I think you look at, like you said,

the run defense is bad. He's clearly earned the trust of the Raiders coaching staff. And it's like you said, you know, James Conner has been plugged into the Kenyon Drake role. Peyton Barr has been plugged into the Josh Jacobs role. They haven't changed Kenyon Drake's role too much. So, you know, he's going to get the rushing down chances. And so are they playing with a lead?

I don't expect that, but they've been so good so far. So it's hard to say that they're necessarily going to be trailing by a lot. So, yeah, Barber will be a flex play. And the other thing, look, if you're in a deeper league, Josh Jacobs has an injury track record and might be dealing with turf that he's managing. So it may not be bad just to stash Barber for however long you can, but you also just don't want to think that the game against Miami is who he is

because we've seen a bigger sample size of what he really is. You know, dropping in for Justin Jefferson. Or you look at the Miami game and see what he did in the first three and a half quarters and say that's who he is. Yeah. Because it wasn't until the Dolphins were gassed at the end of the game that he started picking up chunks of yardage. Real quick, if you were going to pick up one Patriots running back off waivers, it would be

whom? Taylor. I think I'll say it's Taylor, but I'm non-committal to all three. Okay. Kenny Gainwell, 59% rostered. Malcolm Brown. Malcolm Brown started and scored a touchdown.

It was a long touchdown, but know, but might play more. He got goal line opportunities, too, and failed at them. He did. He actually has four carries inside the 20, three inside the 10, two inside the five of his, whatever it is, 14 carries on the season. We broke it down on Monday's show. He appears to be the better pass protector and gaining perhaps more playing time.

Okay. Yeah, deeper leagues. Deeper non-PPR leagues. He's not a bad guy to just have around just in case. That's Malcolm Brown. Let's go to the wide receivers here. You can look for Pittman, Ruggs, Christian Kirk. Christian Kirk's having a really good year. Yeah. And they're rostered in a lot of leagues,

but 10 team leagues, you might find them. Meanwhile, Tim Patrick, we've already talked about him. And does it bother you that Tim Patrick's next two games are Baltimore and Pittsburgh? No. No, you don't have to start Tim Patrick. I don't know if there's a starting wide receiver out there. You know, I mean, the Bills guys in PPR,

sure, you can make a case for it against the Texans, but I don't think week to week right now, there's starters. You know, I mean, the Bills guys in PPR, sure, you can make a case for it against the Texans, but I don't think week to week right now, there's starters. You know, look, we're getting closer to bye weeks. We're getting some injuries that are creeping up. You know, now the A.J. Brown manager is looking for somebody. The Jujus Miss Schuster manager

is searching for somebody. You know, Patrick, we said when Judy went down, has a chance to be productive, and he has been. He just hasn't gotten a lot of targets doing so. But now you have Hamler and Judy out, and we don't know when Judy is exactly coming back. So his role is solidified. How come Jacoby Myers isn't higher on your list

after just the correlation between the white injury and then the 14 targets? And they're playing Tampa Bay, who gives up a ton of fantasy points to wide receivers. Do you consider him 59% him 59 roster do you consider him to be under under rostered i think i mean i'll go back to what i said last week you know ppr leagues he should have been a hold non-ppr leagues you can drop him so when we're talking to whatever audience is still looking at jacoby myers i'm going to guess it's more ppr excuse me more non-ppr

as opposed to ppr you know because you've seen what the sample size of his career has been. It's been no touchdowns. And so when they're chasing points and the game script is in his favor in that regard, which is probably going to be the case in week four, then he's going to have a chance for these type of games. But in games where they're playing with a lead and the Bucs game certainly fits that game script where they're playing from behind, he should have chance white's injury gives him a chance but it could be one of the running backs you know so uh we've seen kendrick bourne have a good game we've seen nelson aguilar have a good game you know those guys are still involved and and like they've said you know we could see hunter henry uh getting a bigger opportunity while john is still having whatever role he has so there's

just a lot of mouths to feed in this office myers is the best in terms of what the targets will be but non PPR, it's hard to trust him. Yeah. Well, their next five games, Patriots next five games are against either teams that should score a lot of points or teams that should give up a lot of points.

Tampa Bay, Houston, Dallas jets, chargers. Uh, we've got the Raiders guys, Renfro or Jacoby Myers. Who would you pick up?

Myers. Uh, for me, like Tim Patrick, I think is good in any format to would you pick up? Myers. Myers is right for me. Tim Patrick, I think, is good in any format to go and pick up. Beasley, if he's still out there, is second for me in PPR. And Myers is right behind him. So I don't think we're

necessarily poo-pooing him. Where I get into trouble is in non-PPR leagues, weighing like A.J. Green, who's been pretty efficient on the limited amount of targets that he's gotten compared to these other PPR receivers like Beasley and Jacoby Myers. And I might consider taking Green ahead of Myers as an example in those non-PPR formats. And Adam, I guess just to ask the question in relation to your tight end comment,

why wouldn't you not do the same with receivers? Like look for guys in good offenses as opposed to your tight end comment. Why wouldn't you not do the same with receivers? Look for guys in good offenses as opposed to guys in bad offenses. I'm not saying you're wrong in approaching it either way. If you say Myers in his role in a bad offense is better than Green in his role in good offense, I'm just curious. Oh, I totally buy that.

I think that's why you take a Bills-wide receiver over Myers because they just throw so much. The Raiders actually have the second most pass attempts in the NFL, but that's not typically their MO. And they've also played two overtime games

in three weeks. Because I think that Waller is obviously the number one target. I think you're talking about the target leader for the Patriots compared to Renfro. Maybe he's two. I would take Renfro probably over Myers. But no, I'd take Myers.

I'd take Myers, yeah. But it's a good question. I think with tight end, it's a little bit different just because it's such a bad position that you're hoping for a touchdown. That you're fishing for touchdowns. Okay, but I guess, so to Dave's point about Green and non-PPR versus one of these other guys,

Green has scored now in two games, whereas Myers hasn't scored in four years. I think it's a great debate. I think I probably would take A.J. Green. I think he has a much better chance to score. But then again, this white injury could really boost Jacoby Myers. We're just not aware of it yet. And this particular week, where Brady's going to throw seven touchdowns,

right? I mean, Gronk's going to catch six of them, right? Like I just think this could be a good week for the, for Myers in the PPR sense, but all right. This is the Ronald Jones week. Yeah. Would that be something? Marquez Calloway, 51% rostered finally. Cameron Bray,

two touchdowns. Did something. Is there a Tennessee, is there a Tennessee wide receiver that you're interested in? I mean, Westbrook played a lot

and had targets and scored, you know. Can he just cut off his name at Westbrook? Yeah, Nick Westbrook. But yeah, he's, he's I guess worth a look's, I guess, worth a look.

Zaccheaus is worth a look with Russell Gage out and again facing Washington. Then you have just Flyers, I guess, the rest of the way. Yeah, if you're in a super deeply, Colin Johnson for the Giants, Kalief Raymond for the Lions. I don't know, maybe Marquez Valdez-Scantling I think is interesting.

He got hurt. He got hurt. What about Anthony Miller? Yeah, you can look at Miller too. Yep. Yeah. They need somebody else in that offense to pick up some work, so it's not all on Brandon Cooks.

Yeah, Dave. I don't know if this is a game for him. He's a talented receiver. Is MBS seriously hurt? I don't know if he's going to play this week. Look, you should take a look. He's 18% rostered. He might be second on the team.

Well, maybe Jones. I don't know. At the end of the year. Second or third on the team in targets. Sorry to step on you there. Do we need to address James Washington? Sure. Oh, yeah.

It's a great point. Right. Juju hurt. Deontay. Don't know about him. Sure. Oh yeah. It's a great point. Right. Juju hurt Deontay. Don't know about him. Right. So he could end up being the number two receiver in the Steelers. Number three, number three.

Who's number one? Okay. Yeah. As, as flyers go in, in deeper leagues is for everybody in the 14 and 16 team leagues. I guess he's worth a look. He's going to be way behind a lot of the other players

that we've mentioned, but he's got a chance. He's got speed. Roethlisberger will take some deep shots when he's not on his back. And Washington is someone that could end up having maybe, let's say that Johnson and Juju are out for two more weeks. One of those two weeks, Washington should end up having a decent game.

All right, so just give me a couple of names here. Kalief Raymond, Olamide Zaccheaus, Nick Westbrook, Colin Johnson, Kalief Raymond, James Washington. Who would be your favorites? Anthony Miller. Okay, fair. I'll take Colin Johnson right now with the injuries.

And I'll give you another one. Terrace Marshall. Maybe moving Dan Arnold is to open up some work for the rookie who hasn't really done much yet, but he's been playing a decent amount and he's available in 70% of leagues. I would take him ahead of James Washington if I'm in those deeper leagues. Yeah. I hope it'd be Robbie Anderson.

Let's get him going. All right, let's go to the tight ends and finish the show here, guys. You can see if Tyler Higbee, who I don't know if you're going to be a little nervous about this week at the Patriots. They're so good against tight ends. And that goes back to last year. Jared Cook, Mike Gasicki. See if they're available. If not, Tyler Conklin, Dalton Schultz.

I think Dave likes Schultz better than Conklin. Is that the Patriots? Yeah, you said Higbee's not playing the Patriots. Oh, God, I'm sorry. I got the wrong schedule. It's early. We're off. The Bucs are playing the Patriots,

and the Rams played the Bucs last week, and I got the wrong schedule. Yeah, and the Rams have the Cardinals this week. Should be a high score. But who do the Bills play? You should know. You got the calendar magnet on your fridge. Conklin, Schultz, Dawson Knox, Evan Ingram,

Pat Friermuth, Dan Arnold. I mean, it really is an opportunity for Evan Ingram here, but it was last week, too. Yeah, you know what? The next time I recommend Evan Ingram as a start, I need somebody to grab a Kendo stick and smash me in the back with it. I don't know what that is.

Probably a wrestling thing. Yes. Yeah. My pleasure. And a Friar Muth. Do you think Friar Muth could be on the verge of something here? He's got, he's got nine targets.

I would look at more than James Washington. I mean, Ben can't throw the ball down the field. No, he's not allowed. Ben Schrager. He's been using the red zone. He's been playing more than Eric Ebron.

I believe he has more targets than Eric Ebron. He's someone who could develop into a worthy candidate as a touchdown or bust tight end. Oh, my gosh. Are the Patriots going to shut down Gronk this week? They're going to try. They did really well against Kelsey, Kittle, Wall. They played the four best tight ends in fantasy last year.

And they did pretty well against the, I don't know about all of them. I don't remember the stats off the top of my head, but you just gradient Brady and Gronk back in Foxborough. You just figure it should be, should be big. Tommy Trimble's got the, you know,

all of his ribs are broken, but he's not missing this game. No, he's not. He's not going to watch any film, but he's not missing the game. DSTs, bangles,

dolphins, bears, tight. They mentioned that on the minicast, by the way, too. Did they? About how he lied to them. And kickers, Randy Bullock, Greg Joseph, Chase McLaughlin,

Evan McPherson. All right. See if you know which teams those players are on. We'll talk to you tomorrow with some buys and sells on Fantasy Football Today. It's week four, right? So that means it's time we're going to do a game show on tomorrow's show. I've got to figure that out.

Maybe do some fantasy. I'm going to go dump through a table. All right. Later, everybody. Have a good one. See you tonight, 8 p.m. Eastern.