Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire; Claypool, Mattison, Dolphins and More! (10/13 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 13, 2020

Who are our top priorities this week (2:06)? We give you several names and then get into a deeper debate about the top two options (8:00): Is it Chase Claypool or perhaps a one-week star in Alexander ...Mattison? How much FAAB are we spending this week (16:23) and where does Justin Jackson factor in (18:00)? ... News and notes (24:40) and then we get into the options at each position. At QB (29:05), we like Ryan Fitzpatrick and Kirk Cousins. Who else makes the cut? It's not a good week for RBs (36:05) but J.D. McKissic is interesting ... TE (42:00) is headlined by Jimmy Graham, and WR is always deep (47:05) and you need to see if Mecole Hardman is available. We also like Christian Kirk, Tim Patrick and Mike Williams to varying degrees. Finally, we've got options at DST (56:50) and Kicker and the Dropometer (58:30) and a bunch of your questions to end the show (1:00:00) ... Your emails at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com Listen to the brand new Fantasy Football Today in 5 podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-in-5/id1528634304 'Fantasy Football Today' is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Google Podcasts, Castbox, and wherever else you listen to podcasts. Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:16 Touchdown. Oh, he's done it again. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, Heath, and Ben. Welcome to your Tuesday morning Waiver Wire show. A very strange Tuesday morning because the week is not over yet. Get ready for Tuesday night football. You can actually hang out and watch it with us. We'll give you some Waiver Wire help and watch a later portion of the game on Twitch tonight.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Twitch.com slash FF today, 8 p.m. Eastern. Twitch.com slash FF today. What's going on adam azer here with dave richard and jamie eisenberg i'm wondering if i had a good week you know i looked at my seven cbs leagues i went four and three it was fine i lost to heath in two leagues though so that's kind of a bad week for me i feel like i'm gonna hear about that when you saw the scores what noise did you make uh what noise did i make probably like a uh one of these um
Starting point is 00:02:13 or uh yeah that was bad i i don't know why what noise should i have made dave i think he made the same noises. Yeah, probably. Yeah, that's probably what it was. It was like, oh, I lost the Heath. Oh, well. Oh, well. Well, at least it's not on the show today. Maybe he'll forget about it by Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:02:35 How are you guys? Good luck with that. I'm good. Happy Chase Claypool Day to you. Yes. Same to you, Jamie. Happy don't pick up a running back on waivers this week day to you. It's brutal, baby. It's brutal.
Starting point is 00:02:49 How dare you talk that way about J.D. McKissick. A lot of catches. Madison, Justin Jackson, they're rostered in more than 65% of leagues. Maybe they are available. We got four teams on a buy. Seattle, Vegas, the Chargers, and the Saints. Hopefully only four teams on a buy. Yeah, I think. That seems right as of now.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Who are the top priorities, JB, this week? Oh, the Dolphins. Let's go Dolphins. Chase Claypool should be the number one receiver added unless you can find Mikko Hardman because he's going to get a big opportunity now with Sammy Watkins not there for the Chiefs. But obviously Claypool coming off the four-touchdown game
Starting point is 00:03:24 should be the number one player added. Just don't go crazy with your fab budget because we don't know what's going to be the injury status of Deontay Johnson. But Ryan Fitzpatrick, great matchup against the Jets. He's playing well from a fantasy perspective. Dolphins DST. They get the Jets.
Starting point is 00:03:38 So take advantage of that matchup. And then there are it's mostly the receivers. I mean, you know, you look at Christian Kirk. He's starting to play well. You look at Preston Williams, get get the jets coming off a big game uh but it's it's not a great week of uh waiver wiring you've been complaining about the waiver wire for the last couple of weeks we've hit rock bottom this is rock bottom for the waiver wire and hopefully will only be the worst week of the season in week six first of all i i wouldn't say
Starting point is 00:04:03 i was complaining about it. I kind of, I don't mind when the waiver wire is not great because then I don't, you know, have to work for you. Well, it's not that. He's thinking through that he's about to say something that he's going to regret. No, I don't think so, Jamie.
Starting point is 00:04:19 He usually just blurts stuff out all the time that he ends up regretting. He's about to say, I don't want to. It means less injuries. I don't want to. Yes, say, I don't want to have to make waiver wire moves, but most people do. No, it's not that. It's that like, you know, you get a guy like Dearness Johnson and you feel like you have to pick him up. But you also know in the back of your mind, you could be wasting your fab and wasting your time and wasting a roster spot and dropping somebody that's better than him. Because the waiver wire is always filled with uncertainty and you get
Starting point is 00:04:47 these weeks where it looks great you get a guy like oh carlos hyde and then he doesn't even end up playing so i i don't mind when the waiver wire is not so great because a lot of let's just face it a lot of waiver wire ads are bad and i don't have to necessarily worry about that this week. Plus, the quarterback list is pretty good. And I think I'm going to be more aggressive with quarterbacks this week. I want everybody to look ahead to your quarterback's bye week. Even if you don't need someone this week,
Starting point is 00:05:15 just have someone for your quarterback's bye week so you're not competing that week. You know, get ahead of the game. Maybe you're... You're talking about just the bye week. Don't you want to have a second quarterback just in case your starting quarterback's game gets postponed? It's a great point.
Starting point is 00:05:28 It's a great point. So, yeah, quarterback could be a good way. It's just there's not the high end running back this week, so it might be a quarterback week. But the starting quarterback for the Dallas Cowboys for the rest of the season is now on the waiver wire. Yes. So would you go with Fitzpatrick or Dalton?
Starting point is 00:05:46 I'm going with Dalton. Oh, I'd go Fitzpatrick. You're going to go with the guy that's eventually going to get benched versus the guy who's absolutely the starter for Dallas. The rest of the way is, is Fitzpatrick going to get benched at some point? He will at some point he might.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I mean, you're, you're absolutely right, but I think you're, you're first off, you're hearing that two was having a hard time picking up the offense. Second, I would imagine that if things go the way the season has gone for each of these respective teams, the Dolphins are three and three after week six. And so you but if you're winning games, everybody loves Fitzpatrick in that building, including Brian Flores. And so if they're
Starting point is 00:06:29 going to stay in the playoff hunt, which they will be after this week, it's hard to take Fitzpatrick off the field. It's a good argument. I just like the receivers around Andy Dalton better. I like the play calling around Andy Dalton better. If it's the same play calling.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah, I guess that's a fair point. They're not going to call as many RPOs, I would imagine, with Andy Dalton. No, but it could be, here you go, Zeke. You're getting 50 carries a week. Yeah. Well, Fitzpatrick, I mean, the Dolphins have lost to two undefeated teams and the Patriots. So I think he deserves a bit of a leash.
Starting point is 00:07:05 It seems like all their problems are pinned on him at times. It's not that their problems are pinned on him. I know you're going with that. Well, they have been, like the Seattle game. Well, it's more a byproduct of what's looking over his shoulder. It's a top five overall pick that everybody's waiting to see, especially after you're watching Justin Herbert and Joe Burrow and what those guys have done, more so Herbert, of late.
Starting point is 00:07:28 But I think you look at what the outlook is for this team, and if you can get into the playoffs, you're not going to put two out there. Exactly. That's what I was saying. I said to some people this weekend that is there such thing as a bad win? Because had they
Starting point is 00:07:44 lost that game to San Francisco, it's probably going to be Tua. Right. So isn't that what's going to happen after every loss? Provided that like they don't go on like a three game winning streak and then lose. Like if they lose this week, I know it sounds crazy. How could they lose to the Jets? But, you know, things happen.
Starting point is 00:07:59 They just beat the 49ers. If they, if they, all right. No, no. Look, if they lose this week, they're going into their bye in week seven. It's a good chance we see Tua, but his hip is apparently not right, and he just appears not to be ready. And this is a relevant conversation
Starting point is 00:08:14 because you just lost Dak Prescott, or maybe you just need a quarterback. And let's face it, Ryan Fitzpatrick, he was bad against the Patriots in week one. That was the only time he hasn't scored 20 or more points. He scored 24 or more fantasy points
Starting point is 00:08:26 in eight of his last 11 games going back to 2019. This guy is not just a laughingstock when it comes to fantasy. He runs the ball. He's insane. He takes hits. It's fun. It's great.
Starting point is 00:08:37 I love it. And he's got a beautiful matchup this week against the Jets who actually only give up their 11th against quarterbacks. I don't think anyone is buying that. All right, that's enough on Ryan Fitzpatrick. More on him a little bit later. So Chase Claypool, we have to talk about Alexander Madison first of all.
Starting point is 00:08:51 72% roster. Dalvin Cook might play this week. They have Atlanta this week. They have a bye next week. So you would think it looks like at most one week based on what we're seeing right now, at most one week for Madison. But do you feel like he just needs to be... He's 72% rostered.
Starting point is 00:09:08 How rostered should he be tomorrow? 150%. Okay. If he starts this week, he's the top five running back. Yes. Without hesitation. But do you go Claypool or Madison? Madison, without a doubt.
Starting point is 00:09:23 But why? You might get nothing. I would take the one-week win, even if he doesn't, on the chance that he may not play, knowing that I'm still going to get that possibility, I would still spend the money on Madison. Because A, you're talking about if he does play this week, if he does start this week,
Starting point is 00:09:38 he is much more of a must-start option than Claypool. And B, have you seen Dalvin Cook? He gets hurt a lot. Yes. Yes, he does. If Deontay Johnson plays, there's a very likely chance that Chase Claypool sees five targets.
Starting point is 00:09:51 I got to tell you, it's a much easier conversation when it comes to waiver claims. You just put in the waiver claim in for Madison ahead of Claypool. That's easy. But you're saying spend more in fab on Madison than on Claypool.
Starting point is 00:10:03 A hundred percent. Okay. Okay. Okay. I don't know how I feel about that. You're chasing Claypool's best game. If you're spending more fab on him. And I'm chasing Alexander Madison for what I hope is one, at least one game,
Starting point is 00:10:17 but there might not even be one game. If I drive, well, because we don't know if Dalvin Cook's been ruled out. No, you're right. It might not. You're a hundred percent right.
Starting point is 00:10:24 So if I'm going to spend a big chunk of my – Right. So if I'm spending a big chunk of my fab for a guy who's going to end up being the backup running back this week, that doesn't seem like a good use of my fab. I hope we lose about him. But there's also the Vikings bye next week. What have we seen with the Packers going into their bye week, with the Saints going into their bye week? Dude, I agree with you on this.
Starting point is 00:10:44 I hope – Okay, fine. I don't agree with you. I don't agree with you on the Saints going into their by week. I agree with you on this. I hope, but okay, fine. I don't agree with you. I don't agree with you on the Saints. Jared Cook played Michael Thomas punch someone. I agree with you, Jamie. So it's one game of Madison. I'm thinking, first of all, I'm thinking the fab that
Starting point is 00:10:57 is going to be spent on Claypool that's fair should be somewhere between 20 and 25 percent. So if I'm going to spend that much on Claypool and I'm going to spend that much on Claypool, and I'm going to spend it... Do I spend it on Claypool and have whatever he'll be for the rest of the year? Too much on Claypool. Well, I'll get into my theory on that when we get to Claypool.
Starting point is 00:11:14 We're on Claypool. No, we're on Madison versus Claypool. Okay, but I do want to know how you feel, because I understand how you all feel about Madison. It's literally potentially one game of Alexander Madison for a quarter of your fab, who should be great in the game versus rest of the season with Claypool. I actually have a hard time spending a quarter of my fab on both these guys, given the circumstances. But whatever, it's probably it comes down to what you need and how badly you need a running back this week.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Adam Schefter just tweeted this morning. One thing to consider with Dalvin Cook and his groin injury. Vikings host the Falcons on Sunday. Then have a bye. Cook could miss one game and have two weeks to recover. So let's work under the assumption that Madison will be the starter this week. But that might be it. That might be it.
Starting point is 00:11:58 I don't care. You're buying a win. You pay for a win. Well, OK. But that's the thing. Like if you're four and one, I think this really, the way I'm hearing it from Jamie is he's not really, Jamie doesn't really feel like Chase Claypool is
Starting point is 00:12:10 going to have a huge impact. That's the rest of the season. I think he's going to have a good impact if Deontay Johnson misses significant time. If he misses a few weeks, Claypool will be good. But if Deontay Johnson's back, there's still too many miles to feed in this offense. And so, you're not going to get 11 targets for Claypool. You're not going to get four touchdowns from Jay Claypool.
Starting point is 00:12:26 I'll go out on a limb and say this was the most touchdowns he's going to score in a game this season. Call me crazy. I think you're getting a good player. His pedigree suggests that he's a better player than Deontay Johnson based on draft capital. And you look at the way that he plays, the comp for him is a guy like Calvin Johnson. That's the type of player that he mirrors in terms of his size, his speed, and his athleticism. And so if you're talking about what the upside could be, he could be fantastic. But I don't think Juju is going to continue to be this bad. I don't think Eric Ebron is going to drop passes and not be involved. I don't think Deontay Johnson is going
Starting point is 00:12:56 to come back and go to the bench. You're still going to get James Conner catching the ball in the backfield, and you're still going to get some shots for James Washington. So this was the chase Claypool week. He had it. He was a monster. But if you're chasing that by spending too much fab on him, I think you're going to be mistaken. So you're saying people shouldn't chase Claypool.
Starting point is 00:13:13 That's right. How much fab would you guys, by the way, Jamie, I agree with a lot of what you said there, but you just said that you don't think Eric Ebron is going to continue to drop passes. So that, that I can't get behind that. Like this is, this is who's taking Eric Ebron is going to continue to drop passes. Yeah, that one.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Sorry. Get behind that one. This is who's taking Eric Ebron off the field. And the Steelers would be nuts at this point to not play Chase Claypool, even if he's just running around to nowhere. Oh, he's playing. He's not playing. He's going to be such a problem for defenses now after this game. He's going to be on the radar of everybody that they play but he he's got it they would be ridiculous if they only limit him to you know 30
Starting point is 00:13:51 to 40 percent of the snaps per game moving forward they've got to get him on the field more it doesn't necessarily mean that they have to throw to him more but they probably should do that too he's actually very efficient when he's played yeah He's been good, and it goes before you even open your eyes to week five. He's been pretty good. I can get into that. Is this Claypool time now, Adam, or not? Yeah, but he's been good. He had one big play.
Starting point is 00:14:17 He was very uninvolved before week five. He had one long touchdown catch where he broke a tackle and ran away. That's part of his game. I am concerned if I don't pick up Claypool that I'd be making the mistake I made with T. Higgins. But then again,
Starting point is 00:14:35 A.J. Green seemingly wants out and he's not really a thing. I don't know how Claypool emerges the way Higgins has, but I was like, I don't know. I'm not chasing this game from Higgins has, but I was like, I don't know. I'm not chasing this game from Higgins, and now it really seems like he's a must-own, must-roster. The good news is Claypool's already been playing a lot of snaps, at least 50 snaps each of the last two games,
Starting point is 00:14:55 and he played 61 snaps against Houston in Week 3, and that was his only game on the year where PFF didn't grade him into the high 80s, which is rare to see. Every other game he's played in, his grade for overall and for receiving has been in the high 80s. PFF likes what they see. But they haven't done anything.
Starting point is 00:15:13 What were his stats before this game? It's the routes that he's running. It's his ability to get open. It's more than just... I know this doesn't matter for stats, but he's playing well, and the Steelers are obviously buying in, and they have bought in before week five. The thing you got to keep in mind, I'll say this again.
Starting point is 00:15:29 This was the first four games of his career with no preseason and no full offseason worth of work. He's only going to continue to get better as a player, but you just don't want to chase the stats that he had in week five because that's the mistake. So you should absolutely try to get him if you're first on waivers, and there is no Alexander Madison and there is no player that you think is better than him
Starting point is 00:15:48 depending on what you need, then he should be added just for the speculation alone. I don't want to downplay what Chase Claypool could become. The biggest thing though, I think is, will he be a startable fantasy wide receiver anytime soon or just a guy that you may end up cutting in three weeks is Deontay Johnson's injury because I don't think Johnson is going to come back and say, okay, Chase Claypool just did this. You're now on the bench.
Starting point is 00:16:09 He was their target leader through the first three weeks of their season. And so Deontay Johnson is going to have a significant role. Juju is still going to have a significant role. And the best of Juju is still ahead. Whether he lives up to his draft status or not, there's a different conversation. He's still going to be a significant part of this offense. And so now you have three receivers in this offense, plus the tight end, plus the running back, plus the fourth receiver who will still get three or four targets a game in James Washington. So if Chase Claypool is going to be eight to 10 targets on a week to week basis, he is a must play and a must stone. But can you make that justification based on one game where their target leader got hurt
Starting point is 00:16:43 versus the three games that they played when Deontay Johnson led them in targets and Claypool wasn't as much of a factor. So it's not really necessarily about adding him. He should be the top player added of the guys that we talk about in the range that we usually consider. 65% of leagues or 65 roster percentage or less. But if Madison is there, even if deontay johnson is out
Starting point is 00:17:08 you are starting alexander madison over dalvin cook and what happens if dalvin cook gets hurt later on in the season that guy could win you your league there's there's a huge disparity in what these two guys can do for your fantasy team so i i think the last point is what's the number for fab and how much you're willing to spend. And what I thought of before the podcast was go back into your league transactions, see how much Justin Jefferson and T Higgins went for on fab and whatever that
Starting point is 00:17:35 number is, add 5% and that should get it done for Claypool for too much. If you're talking about this, because I'm in two leagues where jefferson went for 17 and 16 that's the range that's what i would spend on on claypool too and i think if you want to make sure you get claypool you got to add five percent if you're if you're not sure then stick with under 20 which i think it's fine i think it's fine uh would you how much would you spend that on madison if you need him this week i'd spend i'd spend up to 50 i mean you know especially if how much would you spend then on Madison?
Starting point is 00:18:08 If you need him this week, I'd spend up to 50. I mean, especially if you're 1-4, 2-3, you need to get yourself a win. I would spend it all if I had Cook and not Madison. And Madison's on the waiver wire. Don't forget, you never want to factor in trades when you're making draft picks or transactions like this. You could then turn Madison into a trade with the Dalvin Cook fantasy manager because he's going to be desperate or she's going to be desperate. making draft picks or transactions like this, you could then turn Madison into a trade with
Starting point is 00:18:25 Dalvin Cook fantasy manager, because he's going to be desperate or she's going to be desperate. You know, so there is an easy trade partner when you're picking up a player like this. It's the same thing like Mike Davis with Christian McCaffrey, as we've been saying the last couple of weeks, look at the Christian McCaffrey fantasy manager and see if maybe that person would take Mike Davis off your hands because that person is going to be desperate for the replacement. And you saw what Madison could do. I mean, he played less than a half and he had over 100 yards rushing. This system is fantastic and he's a star.
Starting point is 00:18:52 I wish he was on a different team to see him run more. Yeah, it reminds me so much of Latavius Murray last year. You got two games out of Latavius Murray and they might have been enough to put you in the playoffs. You probably won if you had Latavius Murray. He was just incredible in those two games. What if Justin Jackson's out there? Justin Jackson may have taken the starting job from Josh Kelly. He had a much, much better game than Josh Kelly. He had five catches. Kelly only had one.
Starting point is 00:19:16 15 carries for 71 yards at New Orleans. Kelly, to be fair, it seemed like most of the time he got the ball. There was a Saints defender right next to him immediately. But still. That offensive line was bad. Yeah, but Jackson made the most of it. Yeah, I mean, Jackson had a little bit more of the better play calling it looked like, you know, especially on some of the draw plays for him.
Starting point is 00:19:38 But I think you look at it this way. If they were playing this week, Jackson's priority level would be higher the fact that they're on a buy you probably get him a little bit cheaper uh but yes absolutely he should be the the second running back added if he's available he should be the first running back added if he can't get madison uh he's just above the threshold of the the guys we usually talk about he's at 66 roster percentage right now so you know if he's out there, he's, he's, I would take him over. Um, Okay. And Eckler is on IR. So he'll miss at least two more games. Um, all right. So that's, that's four players. Basically Ryan Fitzpatrick, also dolphins DST could be really good. Madison and Jackson, if they're available. And I think chase Claypool really needed to be discussed
Starting point is 00:20:23 in depth. You need to know what we expect from him rest of season and why maybe you shouldn't go too crazy over Chase Claypool. It's all downhill from here on the waiver wire this week. I'd check to see if Meikle Hardman is available too. I'd love to set up for him. I would take him over Claypool, to be honest, just because who his quarterback is, what his role is going to be now. Sammy Watkins could miss weeks.
Starting point is 00:20:45 That's the report. If you tell me the same thing with Deontay Johnson, then it's Claypool easily. But I think just knowing the fact that now you're going to get Meikle Hardman on the field and what his outlook could be with Patrick Mahomes, my goodness, give me that. In a two-quarterback league, how much fab on Andy Dalton? Could be all of it.
Starting point is 00:21:02 A humongous chunk of it. Humongous, right, yeah, right. And easily ahead of Claypoolpool easily ahead of hardman it would be by far there's no way madison's going to be on the waiver wire in a two quarterback super flex type league like this but if he were i'd have a hard time spending the same amount on madison as on dalton dalton in any two quarterback or super flex league should be the number one player dad i mean it just goes without question you know you're getting the Cowboys starting quarterback and so like Dave said you know he gets all of these weapons hopefully the offense doesn't change much
Starting point is 00:21:33 the thing that concerns me not too well the thing that concerns me about this team is Dak Prescott can overcome the offensive line woes I don't know if Andy Dalton will because of the mobility. And so now you're looking at no tackles from where they started with Tyron Smith and Lyle Collins out. And as great as these receivers are, is Dalton going to have time when the matchups get tougher? I don't think this is the week because the Cardinals are now down Chandler Jones. So he should have the opportunity for a good game. Great game. I'm not sure. Good game, hopefully. But moving forward, if he's going to be under duress, we've seen that's when Andy Dalton tends hopefully but moving forward if he's going to be under duress we've seen that's when Andy Dalton tends to struggle and so it's going to be a lot of creative play calling from Kellen Moore a lot of creative moving from Andy Dalton and hopefully
Starting point is 00:22:14 it's these receivers making plays so I'm I'm certainly concerned about the offensive line when it comes to Andy Dalton versus Dak Prescott you know what you're going to see a lot more pass blocking by Dalton Schultz and their tight ends. Probably. Could be. He's a loser in this whole thing. Yes.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Andy Dalton. I'm trying to think of another team, by the way, that has a player, a receiver with the first name that is also the last name of its quarterback. Andy Dalton, Dalton Schultz. I don't think the Bills have an Allen. Just something to think about
Starting point is 00:22:47 for all of you sitting at home with nothing to do. I mentioned this yesterday, but Dalton, just back to 2018, was having a good year. His first eight games when A.J. Green was healthy, he was on pace for 4,200 yards and 34 touchdowns. Green was on pace for almost 1,400 yards and 12 touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Tyler Boyd was on pace for over 1,200 yards and 12 touchdowns. Tyler Boyd was on pace for over 1,200 yards and 10 touchdowns. So we have seen in the very recent history of Andy Dalton being able to carry two wide receivers, two must-start wide receivers. I don't know if they'll have three or anything like that, but you could do worse than Andy Dalton if you have those Cowboys wide receivers. All right, guys, we got a lot to get to here. First of all, Dave, you feel like you're always on. All right, it's football season. You're working all the time.
Starting point is 00:23:31 Yeah, you gotta, you know, oh, poor us. We gotta talk about football, but you're always on. Do you ever feel like you need a moment to chill, Dave Richard? Because if you do, you should grab a Coors Light.
Starting point is 00:23:40 I want to tell you about my moment to chill this weekend, Adam. It was Sunday afternoon, right around three o'clock Eastern time. So everybody enjoys their Sundays. You wake up, you have a little breakfast, spend time with the family. Maybe you go to church or what have you. You come back home. You tune into Fantasy Football Today on CBS Sports HQ.
Starting point is 00:24:00 You watch us talk about fantasy. You get your lineup set and you go and you plop on the couch. Well, while you're doing all that stuff in the morning, we're preparing for our shows. I don't know about Jamie and Heath and everybody else, but I'm up early making sure my notes are in order. And then I've got to sit in my chair, in my living room, in my house to make sure that I'm delivering the fantasy analysis that I'm asked to do. That's my Sunday morning from about 8 a.m. until 1 p.m. That's a lot of work, man. It's a lot of energy to get out there and put on the internets. And so then I've got to go and watch
Starting point is 00:24:31 football. And for a lot of people, watching football is fun and easy, but I've got to stay on top of at least two games at a time, making sure that I know exactly what's going on around the National Football League. It's even harder for some of my other colleagues. And then I finally get to that point where I feel like I'm on top of everything that's going on. And I just go into my fridge, grab out a Coors Light and go sit on my couch. And that's when my Sunday starts because I'm able to just have that moment to unwind. I feel great and I can just relax. And Coors Light, it's such an easy beer to drink because it tastes good, it's perfect when it's cold, and there's no aftertaste that really makes you want to puke
Starting point is 00:25:12 after. So that's always a good thing when it comes to your beer, not making you want to puke. And Coors Light happens to have that. So when you need to hit that reset button, when you're having a hectic day or a hectic week, and it's people driving you crazy, or it's work staying on top of you, if to do this and do that just take the time reach for the beer that's made to chill and that's Coors Light and now you can even get Coors Light in the new look delivered straight to your door you go to get.coorslight.com and they bring the Coors Light to you I'm going to do that next Sunday Then I don't even have to leave the house. Yeah, they'll bring it right to your chair, Dave.
Starting point is 00:25:46 Get.coorslight.com. Celebrate responsibly. Coors Brewing Company, Golden, Colorado. Okay, news and notes. Well, you know about Dalvin Cook. Groin injury. Might be able to play. Maybe not.
Starting point is 00:25:58 Atlanta this week, then bye. Keenan Allen's on a bye. He left with a back injury. We have to be at least a little interested in Mike Williams. Baker Mayfield's going to be monitored at practice this week. He has ribs injuries, injured ribs, and he is looking to score 18 fantasy points for the fifth game in a row
Starting point is 00:26:16 as he faces the Steelers, who have given up 20 to 22 fantasy points four games in a row. Sammy Watkins expected to miss a couple of weeks with a hamstring injury at Buffalo. That game is actually going to be played on Monday. No Thursday night football this week. Weird. Christian McCaffrey
Starting point is 00:26:33 unlikely to play this week. Adam Gase could give up play calling duties. Le'Veon Bell and A.J. Green might want a trade. A.J. Green may have Yeah, I know. Le'Veon Bell and A.J. Green might want a trade. A.J. Green may have been seen on the sideline going, trade me.
Starting point is 00:26:50 And Le'Veon Bell liked a tweet that said the Jets would trade him or something like that. So, interesting. Deontay Johnson... What are we going to get for those guys? No. The Jets would make that trade
Starting point is 00:27:03 in a heartbeat. A.J. Green for Le'Veon Bell? A.J. Green will be like, I'm out. no oh the jets would make that trade in a heartbeat aj green for uh levy on bell aj green will be like i'm out answering aj green dogged it so badly on an interception he just decided he did not want to tackle the defender it was pretty bad or go up for the ball yeah it was it was a it was bad it was really bad would you agree that the only reason to keep adrian at this point is to see how he does once he's traded? Oh, you mean for a fantasy team? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Probably. As long as he's on the Bengals, who could want him now? Deontay Johnson, back injury. Jimmy Garoppolo, he's uncertain for this week. DJ Chark, what do we think? Any idea? He left late with an ankle injury. Jimmy Garoppolo, he's uncertain for this week. DJ Chark, what do we think? Any idea? He left
Starting point is 00:27:47 late with an ankle injury. Yeah, we don't know how severe it is. Okay. Teams are not going to be tested on game day for COVID. Atlanta owner Arthur Blank did not fully commit to Matt Ryan beyond this year. Interesting. Richard Sherman is not going to play this week,
Starting point is 00:28:05 but the 49ers could get Emmanuel Mosley back as they face the Rams on Sunday night. All right. Do you have any feeling whatsoever about whether or not these guys are going to play? Cam Newton, Drew Locke, Kyle Allen, Sam Darnold. Those quarterbacks? Kyle Allen, it seems as if he's going to start.
Starting point is 00:28:23 That was the report. Cam Newton will have been past 10 days, so hopefully he's going to start. That was the report. Cam Newton, he will have been past 10 days, so hopefully he's going to be okay. But that's something you got to keep an eye on. Drew Locke should play. He was going to play in week five. Who was the other one you asked about? Darnold.
Starting point is 00:28:36 I don't think Darnold's playing. Darnold, if I was him, I would not play again. Not for at least a couple more losses. He's a different play caller you know I mean get rid of Adam Case Chris Godwin, Devante Adams Julio Jones I would expect Adams he practiced on Monday
Starting point is 00:28:56 yeah Adams is a lock the other two I wouldn't expect Julio you never know I mean the fact that he was close to playing this week at least you know working him out before the game, that's, I would hope, a positive sign. But at this point with their season going nowhere, is he going to risk going out there and re-injuring himself?
Starting point is 00:29:16 Godwin, who knows? I mean, it's been a frustrating season. Okay. Alshon Jeffrey to Sean Jackson? I would imagine Alshon is going to be close this week. You know, he was dealing with an illness as opposed to the foot injury. So the Eagles really messed this up because had they put him on the pop list, he would have missed six weeks.
Starting point is 00:29:35 And if he's out this week, that's week six. So they did themselves a disservice by not putting him on the pop list. So my guess is it's probably more the illness than the foot because there was reports he was close last week. Deshaun Jackson, who knows? I thought Deshaun was close last week. I thought he was as well. So, you know, he had, I think he practiced on a limited basis Wednesday
Starting point is 00:29:54 and then missed Thursday and Friday. So who knows if he had a setback? All right. You know what, guys? Usually at this point in the show, we do the top three at each position. But let's just go right to the waiver wire and start talking about some more players here. Okay, you need a quarterback this week.
Starting point is 00:30:10 We mentioned Ryan Fitzpatrick. Who else are we talking about, Jamie? Well, first of all, there's the check to see if available list of 72% or these players are rostered in 72% of leagues or more. There's Tannehill. He's playing tonight, but he also gets Houston,
Starting point is 00:30:26 Matthew Stafford. And well, the order you have it is, I'm sorry, is Bridgewater, Minshew, Stafford, and Tannehill.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Bridgewater, the order of their roster percentage. Oh, the order I would, I would put it in would be Stafford one. I would go with Stafford one. Minshew. And if you want to, if you want to factor in the rest of the guys, I'd go Fitz Stafford one. Minshew. And if you want to,
Starting point is 00:30:47 if you want to factor in the rest of the guys, I'd go Fitzpatrick too. Oh, then Tannehill, then Minshew, then Bridgewater and then cousins. Now that's for this week. Now,
Starting point is 00:30:56 if you want to go longterm, you put Dalton ahead of cousins. Okay. Cousins kind of let us down. Well, I don't know how many people started him. 21% of leagues against the Seahawks. You have more faith in him this week against Atlanta?
Starting point is 00:31:08 Did he let you down or did the run game just dominate? He threw 39 passes and scored 17 points. If you told me he was going to throw 39 passes before the game, I would have started him without hesitation. Yes. So if you tell me he's going to throw 39 passes against the Falcons, I'm going to start him without hesitation. I'd be shocked if he had that many against Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:31:26 It's all about trusting him in this matchup, and so that's the case if you're going to buy in. Yeah. Atlanta gives up the most points to quarterbacks. Teddy Bridgewater scored 24 points. The only time that a team, like if you count both the Bears guys, the only time that a team QB did not score 36 or more
Starting point is 00:31:44 against Atlanta. That's wild. This is going to be like a Justin Herbert-esque performance for Kirk Cousins, where he's around 200 passing yards and three touchdowns. Why do you think Ryan Tannehill was only rostered in 72% of leagues? By weak uncertainty of the Titans playing.
Starting point is 00:32:00 I mean, that's probably what it comes down to. Okay. He gets Houston next week. Same thing why Stafford's at 81%. And the funny thing is, like, you could pick up Tannehill now, potentially. Potentially. You'd have to drop somebody on the Bills or the Titans.
Starting point is 00:32:13 But, you know. Right. So if you lost Dak Prescott and you have Cole Beasley or Corey Davis on your roster, that's an easy move to make with Tannehill sitting there. Right. Or Dawson Knox, which I know a lot of people. True, Dawson Knox. Maybe Tyler Croft.
Starting point is 00:32:28 Alright, but in terms of the available players, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Kirk Cousins, and then Andy Dalton gets Arizona. They have been... I mean, they haven't really been tested that much by quarterbacks this year, but they've been okay.
Starting point is 00:32:43 The two duds against them were Joe Flacco and Dwayne Haskins. Right, right. The other three quarterbacks, all three had at least 250-2. Derek Carr, he's on a bye, but playing really well. 24 more fantasy points
Starting point is 00:32:58 in three of his last four games. This is all six points per passing touchdown leagues, so he could be a long-term option. Who do you like better long-term? Derek Carr or Fitzpatrick or Dalton? I'm thinking that it's Carr. He played fantastic against Kansas City,
Starting point is 00:33:13 and I'm wondering if he's going to be sneaky good the rest of the way, and he won't be the most popular guy off waivers, even at this position, because people will see Fitzpatrick out there, and they know that he's been good now for, I guess, four straight games, And Dalton's going to be hugely popular because he's replacing Dak and cars on a buy this week. You can't use them, but this is what you talked about to open the
Starting point is 00:33:34 show. Adam, you've got your star quarterback on your team. Go check when his bi-week is go see who the Raiders play on that bi-week and whether it's a, it's a great matchup or an average matchup, Carr could be your guy because he might end up being really, really good. This offense has, when Henry Ruggs is on the field, this offense has been
Starting point is 00:33:52 very fun to watch. Drawback of Carr is bye this week, and then I don't know if you're going to trust him against Tampa Bay in week seven. But then after that,
Starting point is 00:34:04 Cleveland is a great matchup in week eight. And then the Chargers, they look like a pretty good matchup right now. See how healthy they are by then. Then Denver, they've been terrible. So the schedule gets pretty good after Tampa Bay. I just want to say this before I forget. Do not only look at weekly projections
Starting point is 00:34:21 when you're looking at waivers. So if you're in a CBS league and you go to the stats pages and you look at the free agents, it will default to the week six projections. You will not see Derek Carr in there. You will not see Justin Jackson in there. So you can either look at rest of season projections, or what I like to do is I like to look at the weekly projections first,
Starting point is 00:34:44 and then I like to hit the year-to look at the weekly projections first, and then I like to hit the stats, like I like to hit the year-to-date stats and see who's actually done the best. Or then you could look at rest of season projections. But just make sure you are toggling to a way where you can see the players that are actually on buy so you don't miss them in free agency. And the other thing you could do is look at the roster trends page and go to the most rostered players. Or most viewed. Or most viewed the roster trends page and go to the most rostered players. Or most viewed. Or most viewed, yeah, or most added.
Starting point is 00:35:10 But most rostered players will show you if there's a player that's like 90% rostered and just happens to be available in your league. Sometimes it's like a DST or a kicker or something. That's a very helpful tool as well. Okay, there we go. Daniel Jones. Daniel Jones, bold prediction. This is going to be a big week for Daniel Jones against the football team. Three touchdowns.
Starting point is 00:35:28 It should have been a big week for him last week, too, but he let us down. He's just not playing well, but I think you've seen enough of this Washington defense to know that there is an opportunity here, and obviously every fantasy manager, every league has a fantasy manager looking for a quarterback. If you're going to start the streaming game
Starting point is 00:35:43 and you can't get Dalton and Fitzpatrick is already rostered, I think he's the next best guy. Cousins, I'm sorry. If you can't get Fitzpatrick or Cousins and Dalton, then I think he's the next best guy. Hopefully this is the week, but it's been four games
Starting point is 00:35:59 without a touchdown. It's very difficult to do in the NFL, and he's accomplished that. Seven to nine fantasy points in four straight games for Daniel Jones. Okay, you could take a look at Drew Locke at New England. How about Kyle Allen or Daniel Jones this week? I'll go with Jones. And how do you guys feel about Carson Wentz, 75% rostered, Jimmy Garoppolo, Baker Mayfield?
Starting point is 00:36:25 Mayfield. Mayfield's interesting because they're probably chasing points, and so the targets would be up for the guys. Passing game would be up for him. He's played well. He just hasn't had a lot of volume. He's been okay. He's been okay.
Starting point is 00:36:36 He made some mistakes even last week. I think he had like 18 yards and two interceptions in the second half. I can't confirm this, but his second half numbers, I think he had more fantasy points at halftime than he did at the end of the game. So that's really weird for Baker Mayfield.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Yeah, if I could turn him into any of the quarterbacks that we've talked about except Cousins, I would do it. You could turn him into Dalton. Yeah, I would drop Mayfield for any of those three. Cool. All right, let's go to the running backs here. This won't take long. But check to see if available.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Chase Edmonds, James White, Adrian Peterson. He might be available. Gets the Jaguars this week. That could be good. Alexander Madison. Have we talked about him? And Justin Jackson. And it's not in that order.
Starting point is 00:37:25 That's roster percentage order. How would you rank them, Jamie? Like that's Edmonds versus, this is shallow leaks. We won't spend too much time on it, but Edmonds versus Madison is pretty interesting. Madison should go ahead of Edmonds because of the one week scenario, but long-term, they're very similar. And long-term, if everybody is healthy, Edmonds is going to get you more fantasy production than Madison is because of his role in the passing game. So if you're just talking about lottery ticket appeal, it's Madison because of what Dobbin Cook has already done getting hurt. But both in backup roles, Edmonds has proven to be better. And that's the guy I'd rather have if you're just telling me that Kenyon Drake
Starting point is 00:38:05 and Dalvin Cook are staying healthy. And Edmonds will cost you probably less than half the fab that you would need to spend to get Madison. Yeah. Okay, so I have to ask this before I forget, because I will forget. Is Josh Kelly droppable going into a bye week? I wouldn't drop him yet
Starting point is 00:38:23 because we don't know how long Eckler's going to be out, and he still played a significant amount. Like you said, he didn't have a lot of favorable touches in that game against the Saints, and the Saints' run defense is good. Justin Jackson just had a really nice game. I think you're going to still see the two of them share touches.
Starting point is 00:38:40 They had a little bit of a weird usage with them because it seemed like almost every time Justin Jackson got going in the first half, they took him off the field and put Kelly in there. And so I'd like to see it, you know, give each guy a chance to get in a rhythm, but I'm not dropping Joshua Kelly yet,
Starting point is 00:38:52 unless I have to, you know, for Madison or Edmonds or one of these receivers. So it's obviously a case by case scenario. That was one of those games where you have to sit there and go, okay, listen, Sean Payton's won a Superbowl.
Starting point is 00:39:04 He's a brilliant offensive mind. You are Adam Azer sitting on your couch watching Monday Night Football. But yes, they should give the ball to Alvin Kamara more and get Taysom Hill off the damn field. It's so funny because every time Taysom Hill touches the ball, I basically send the same tweet, get Taysom Hill out of there. And then he had the second play again where he had
Starting point is 00:39:25 he got stuffed and then it was a touchdown and i just got inundated with oh you're an idiot yeah no i'm glad he scored congratulations for saints fans it was it was a big touchdown for your team but you're you're wasting your best players you have a hall of fame quarterback and one of the best players in football and alvin kamara and you're basically saying those guys are irrelevant because all tasem hill is going to do is run the ball. I mean, it has to be blackmail, right? Taysom Hill must have some photos of Sean Payton, you know, in a compromised position.
Starting point is 00:39:57 And he says, if you don't play me, I'm going to send these photos out to everybody. And it has to be on third down. Speaking of bad tweets, what about yours last night, Mr. Azar? Hey, I got the Saints score right. What are you talking about? I predicted 30-3. What I meant was 30 points and a three-point win.
Starting point is 00:40:14 So, you know, I think I nailed it. All right, other running backs to pick up. JD McKissick, 16 catches in his last three games, at least 37 receiving yards in each game. 16 targets in his last two. I don't know if the matchups even matter. I mean, the Giants have been pretty good against pass-catching running backs, I guess.
Starting point is 00:40:31 But, you know, he led the team in receiving J.D. McKissick in week five. This receiving core is miserable. It's absolutely miserable. It's Terry McCorn and then a bunch of stiffs. Logan Thomas has stopped doing anything. He's got two catches his last two games if he was doing anything to begin with.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Steven Sims is on IR. Dontrell Inman is just a guy. And so, you know, if you're Dwayne Haskins two games ago or the combination of Kyle Allen and Alex Smith, especially behind that offensive line when those guys were running for their lives, it's get the ball out quick. And so you've seen Antonio Gibson and McKissick
Starting point is 00:41:02 and their role in the passing game continue to grow. And McKissick is basically what you think of guys like James White and Tariq Cohen and Theo Riddick and those type of players. Obviously it's a sliding scale based on how the performance has gone for those guys and how it will go for McKissick, but he is going to be a non-factor and non-PPR leagues, but he's going to be somebody that you can use as at least a flex and PPR. And so for the desperate fantasy manager that is down, all the running backs who are missing from bye weeks this week, again, with the four teams on a bye,
Starting point is 00:41:28 and then with the injuries, he's not bad to get you that seven to 10 PPR points, hopefully a little bit better, but he's averaged nine over the last two weeks. And so that's not going to crush you if you're stuck.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Okay. So I'm assuming you drop like Cornell Patterson for McKissick. Yes. Oh, God. Yeah. But like you're dropping, it's not a,
Starting point is 00:41:46 you know, the thing with, with doing this, like I have to put players to drop. It's very difficult to say, drop some of these guys that are owned in a lot of leagues, like JK Dobbins in a redraft league. It's probably easy to drop,
Starting point is 00:41:59 but like me telling people to drop him two weeks from now, Mark Ingram gets hurt. You're going to kick yourself for dropping JK Dobbins because of what the role he could have. So the guys that you're dropping, you're dropping like Jordan Howard, who was the coach's decision, not playing.
Starting point is 00:42:12 You're dropping Carlos Hyde. You're dropping guys that are going into their bi-week that don't really matter too much, but we can't sit here and say, pick up your handcuffs or somebody else's handcuff and say, drop, you know, a guy like Dobbins,
Starting point is 00:42:22 for example. So it's, it's, it's a little tricky. Like same thing with Joshua Kelly. Same thing like Dearness Johnson. People may be frustrated with him after one week. Would you drop Dearness Johnson for J.D. McKissick?
Starting point is 00:42:32 If you need guaranteed production, then yes. Kareem Hunt gets hurt. You're going to regret that. Okay. If Gibson gets hurt, I don't think J.D. McKissick is necessarily going to have a huge ball. He's already the number two receiver in Washington. If Gibson gets hurt, he don't think JD McKissick is necessarily going to have a huge ball. Well, he's already the number two receiver in Washington. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:46 And if Gibson gets hurt, he might challenge to be the number one. No, but I mean, he's not going to get a ton more. He might get more carries, but he's not going to be a ball. He's not going to be a ball carrier, a reliable ball carrier. Okay, let's get through running back here and spend more time on receiver and tight end. We haven't even given tight. Give me some tight ends. we'll get back to it. Give me some tight ends.
Starting point is 00:43:07 The three to look for this week are Jimmy Graham, just based on what he's done. He's obviously touched down or bust. And then the other two would be Irv Smith and Trey Burton. And that's assuming you can't find some of these guys that are in the 70 to 80% range of Mike, a sickie TJ Hawkinson, Jared cook,
Starting point is 00:43:23 even going into his bi-week, you know, those type of guys. But for the ones that are readily available, Graham's bordering on the threshold, but Irv Smith gets the Falcons and he just had his season high in targets and catches. I know that sounds very similar to what happened with Ian Thomas going into the Falcons game, but Irv Smith is a little bit more of a playmaker.
Starting point is 00:43:39 And then for Trey Burton, two games that he's played, he's got 11 targets in those two games and he's essentially working as the number two receiver slash best tight end. So Molly Cox is also hurt. Those are the three that I would look at. What about Austin Hooper? Rostered in 57% of leagues, has 17 targets in the last two weeks. And he's played well.
Starting point is 00:43:58 He's averaging 12 PPR points over those two games. The problem is in the first three games, he scored a combined 12 PPR points and he gets a Steelers this week. So I don't know if you really want to buy into him as a one week replacement. If he comes out of that Steelers game playing well, he could do okay. So he's fourth for me,
Starting point is 00:44:12 but I don't want to really chase those two games. One was against Dallas and then, you know, against the Colts, they were, they were banged up and he was a little bit more involved than we've seen. It's a gross position.
Starting point is 00:44:21 Again, this is another one that you don't feel great about, but I'm with you on Graham and Irv Smith at the very least ahead of Hooper. Gerald Everett, 7% roster. I mean, you know, again, you're talking about a very heavy, a very offense that's heavy with a lot of players and playmakers. And, you know, he did have the 90 yards receiving, but it was on four targets.
Starting point is 00:44:39 So, you know, is he somebody that's going to see five plus targets even with Higby still there? So he's on the list, but he's not at the top of the list targets even with Higby still there? So he's, he's on the list, but he's not at the top of the list for me to say that you would take herb Smith. Well, this is just going to be our tight end segment to say that you would take
Starting point is 00:44:51 herb Smith over Austin Hooper before last week at Seattle, where Smith had five targets, four catches, 64 yards. He had two catches on six targets the entire season. So I know that the matchup is definitely better. Falcons allow the second most fantasy points at tight ends. They're horrible. They just gave up three touchdowns to Robert Tanyan two
Starting point is 00:45:09 weeks ago. But like Hooper, he had what, 17 targets in his last two games? Same as Odell Beckham. Yeah, so I don't know. You don't feel good about any of these guys. When Jimmy Graham is at the top of the list,
Starting point is 00:45:25 it's a crappy list. And he doesn't have a good matchup this week. The Carolina's actually been pretty solid against tight ends, and he's got one game with more than 33 yards. The thing you are getting with Graham is a ton of red zone targets. A ton of red zone targets.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Yeah, and touchdowns, right? And I think that's what you're going for with Irv Smith, too, is that you're hoping he's the one that gets a target or two inside the 10. Are you bailing on Dalton Schultz or Eric Ebron? Ebron, no.
Starting point is 00:45:50 Because the matchup is good. And Schultz, not yet. I'd be looking for alternatives for Schultz, but I would still hold Schultz. If either of those guys were my only tight end, I'd want to pick up another tight end. Yeah, I'm thinking if either of those guys is your second tight end, do you drop them for
Starting point is 00:46:06 Chase Claypool or Mikko Hardman or... Ebron for sure. Easy. Ebron for sure. Schultz, it's harder to do, but if he's your worst guy on the bench, then yeah. But Ebron... If they're your second tight end, then yes. Ebron got six targets, which is not bad, and he's in the middle of this
Starting point is 00:46:22 great stretch of games. Right. Like, he still does have a great matchup this week against the Browns. Yeah, but if he makes mistakes and Claypool doesn't, they're basically, they could be utilized similarly. And if anything, Claypool could have more versatility to his game than Ebron. You think Claypool's a better blocker than Ebron? Like, I don't think so. Like, he's still a tight end.
Starting point is 00:46:44 But this isn't a team that needs a ton of blocking. They're doing a good job throwing the ball. Yeah. All right. So those are your tight ends. I'll recap it. Jimmy Graham would be the best one, followed by, sorry, who was second?
Starting point is 00:46:59 Irv Smith, Trey Burton, and Austin Hooper. Yeah, Burton is pretty interesting, I suppose. So are we done with Mo'Ally Cox? Yeah, he's hurt. And so, you know, you look at what he's done in the two games that Burton has been back, he's touchdown or bust. And, you know, for the way Phillip Rivers is playing,
Starting point is 00:47:14 it's, you know, the fact that Frank Reich five weeks into the season is already fielding questions about benching Phillip Rivers shows you where Rivers is at. Okay, I got three sleeper tight ends. One is Gronkowski. Against Green Bay. One is Gronkowski against Green Bay. One is Chris Herndon going back to his college field where I believe Travis Homer, Jamie, scored a touchdown
Starting point is 00:47:36 when he went back to that field. I know you love the homecoming stories. Chris Herndon at the Dolphins. And then if Jordan Akins is out again, Darren Fels. I don't really believe it with Herndon, by the way, but a Houston tight end
Starting point is 00:47:48 has caught a touchdown in three of five games. The Titans have allowed a touchdown in every game they've played. They've only played three so far, so maybe they'll make it four for four tonight.
Starting point is 00:47:57 These are sleepers. Gronkowski's obviously on a different level, but. I like the Fels call, but it really does come down to whether or not Aikken plays.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Okay, how about wide receivers here? Other than Chase Claypool, Jamie, who are three players we're looking at? Christian Kirk. You know, his play the last two weeks is starting to tick up. I think it's 12 targets in those two games. And he had a nice performance against the Jets.
Starting point is 00:48:20 He scored the week before. So hopefully the guy that we were looking to get as the second receiver for the Cardinals is starting to emerge after battling some injuries early in the season. And then I'll buy back into Preston Williams. You know, again, looking at the first four weeks of the year, it's been a disappointment for him, but you saw some signs of life and, you know, hopefully the knee is starting to get healthy. A lot of it has to do with the matchup against the Jets too. So I think you're going to see with Fitzpatrick playing at this level.
Starting point is 00:48:52 I didn't see this until this morning, but apparently the Palm Beach Post reported that Chan Gailey said going into the week that they're going to try and ramp up Preston Williams. And so it leads to his best game of the year against the 49ers. So that could be the jumping off point for a guy that we were excited about coming into the season. OK, Claypool, Kirk Williams, Kirk gets the Cowboys. They're giving up the second most fantasy points to wide receivers typically it's one wide receiver so it should be a huge game for Hopkins but you saw Lockett and Metcalf have big games at the same time
Starting point is 00:49:13 Preston Williams on the other hand is facing a Jets team in their last two games huge game by Patrick, touchdown by Judy then Hopkins and Kirk both had good games so the Jets are a mess right now. Interesting names on this list. Nikhil Harry, Alshon Jeffrey, Travis Fulgham.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Probably talk about him. Matchup kind of stinks for Fulgham against the Ravens. Fifth best against wide receivers. Tim Patrick. Dave, what do you think about this group here? And then we should get into the Jaguars as well because you have some opportunity there if DJ Chark misses the game for guys like Keelan Cole,
Starting point is 00:49:48 Chenault, obviously, if he's available. But again, Nikhil Harry facing Denver. They have allowed 81... Listen to this. Denver has allowed 81 yards or a touchdown to eight wide receivers in four games. Alshon, Fulgham, Tim Patrick. Let's start with them. What do you think about them? I like Patrick. I guess I'm okay with Harry.
Starting point is 00:50:10 Patrick would be my favorite of the group just because there's long-term appeal as well. If he's taking on the Patriots without Stephon Gilmore, I like his chances to have a decent game and there will be better games ahead. And he's getting a good quarterback there. We don't know who Nikhil Harry's quarterback is going to be. I'm not sure that even matters.
Starting point is 00:50:27 It'd probably be better, obviously, if it were Cam. But it's not like he's been on fire with Cam anyway. And Fulgham had a good game. He scored in two straight. But we've already talked about how Philadelphia might get Jeffrey and Deshaun Jackson back. It might push Fulgham into a smaller role. He basically was like a big bodied outside receiver that they they thought they were gonna like when they drafted our segoe white side they thought
Starting point is 00:50:52 that's what they were gonna get and instead they get it with fulgham who they pick up off the scrap heap i don't he needs those other receivers to be off the field in order to be the volume type of white out so i'm not that excited about him he is the i was reading this this morning fourth player since the 1970 merger and first since anquan bolden in 2003 to have at least 10 catches and 150 receiving yards in one of his first five career games wow so very impressive performance for him but again it's like chase claypool light don't chase those numbers because they're going to be bad against the Ravens. And if those guys return, the one thing about Harry,
Starting point is 00:51:29 I will say is in three of the four games, he has at least six targets and you got Julian Edelman and nothing else in his passing game. So I think Harry's outlook is very, very bright moving forward and somebody that you can get a lot of good production that way you still get him a little cheaper this week because not everybody's going to be chasing him going into their waiver where did we i'm sorry if we brought him up but mike williams yeah mike williams uh group as well um you know you look at uh keenan allen and we don't know how long he's going to be out but the fact that they're on a bye week i would imagine gives keenan allen the time to get healthy but yeah i mean you know, you know, you see what Justin Herbert is doing. He's been fantastic.
Starting point is 00:52:07 And so Mike Williams coming off a very strong game against the Saints. Just not a lot of targets, but, you know, when the ball was thrown in his direction, he certainly made some key contributions with the touchdowns and the big catch there to set up what could have been a game-winning field goal. And are you interested in two deep, deep, deep stashes? Yeah, but I think we have some shallow... Hold that thought, because we have other players that could help this week.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Well, first of all, LaVisca Chenault and Mikko Hardman are among the players that might be available. Chenault, 76%. Hardman, 68%. How about Brandon Cooks in that group? If you saw Hardman, Chenault, Cooks, who's your favorite? Cooks.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Hardman by far. And then Chenault. And I'd put T. Higgins in there too because if A.J. Green's going to miss time, you saw what Higgins was doing when A.J. Green was on the field. And so, you know, those three guys for me are the top wide receivers to look at this week along with Claypool.
Starting point is 00:53:01 And then Cooks is right there also. But I don't want to chase just the one big game against the Jaguars because I think that could be a mistake as well well but this was the first game without Bill O'Brien calling plays and he got more involved he looked good he played well and Watson clearly had no time going back to him I don't mind taking the chance on Cooks keeping up that double digit targets per game no but being involved as much as Will Fuller which is kind of what we were expecting a little bit from Cooks when we were drafting,
Starting point is 00:53:29 I think I could see it. And he's got rest of season appeal. For sure. Totally agree. I was just taking behind those other guys. How many of these guys would you take ahead of Chase Claypool? Chenault, Ruggs. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Ruggs, Chenault, Higgins, Marvin Jones, Brandon Cooks, Mecoleult, Higgins, Marvin Jones, Brandon Cooks, Mecole Hardman. How many of them ahead of Claypool? Hardman, Higgins, and Chennault.
Starting point is 00:53:52 None. Claypool will be my first waiver claim. Wow. Because I think I can get one of those other guys with my second waiver claim. Okay, but, but,
Starting point is 00:54:01 fine. However, let's just say that wasn't the case and you're just ranking them. How many do you like better than Claypool rest of season? Ruggs, Chenault, Higgins, Marvin Jones, Brandon Cooks, Meikle Hardman? Or not even necessarily rest of season, but like immediately because Hardman, you know. But those are different conversations because somebody like Hardman, like I get where Jamie's coming from and I pretty much agree with him. I'd rather have Hardman in my lineup next week than Claypool. Okay, so would you drop LaVisca Chenault for Claypool? Would you drop T. Higgins for Claypool? See, it's funny because I'd rather have Claypool in my lineup next week
Starting point is 00:54:33 if Deontay Johnson's out. Then Hardman? Yep. Yeah. Okay. I wouldn't quite feel that way. Answer that question, please. Chenault and Higgins, would you drop either for Claypool? I'd feel better. I don't feel good about dropping either of those guys for Claypool.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Chenault would probably be the first one I would drop. No chance. Keelan Cole is 40% rostered. He scored. Yeah, this is probably a Chark thing, but the Lions stink against wide receivers. So if Chark's out, you can look at Keelan Cole, maybe Chris Conley in a super deeply Marquez Valdez,
Starting point is 00:55:08 Scantling. I am interested to see what he can do as a number two receiver. I do not think he's a number one receiver, but he was a lot better with Devante Adams, Sterling Shepard. I don't think he's necessarily going to play this week based on what I read this morning, but he's 43% rostered.
Starting point is 00:55:22 And this was a guy you were taking, you know, it was around a hundredth overall, 120th overall, something like that. So Shepard eligible to come off IR. Mike Williams, Jeff Smith got 11 targets. That's cool. Didn't do much with it, but that's 20 targets for Jeff
Starting point is 00:55:35 Smith in two games, and he's rostered in 3% of leagues. Yeah, so many of those targets were terrible throws from Flacco. You might find this hard to believe, but Joe Flacco is not a good quarterback. He's done. He's washed. Hey, game is on tonight.
Starting point is 00:55:51 No positive tests for the Titans. That's good. And A.J. Brown is going to play tonight. And Dave, who are your deep stashes? Kalief Raymond, who we'll watch tonight. Remember, Tennessee is real thin at receiver because both Corey Davis and Adam Humphreys are on the COVID list. So he's going to end up being their number two receiver, which might make him third in targets because Johnny is going to be there doing his thing. But deep threat, good speed.
Starting point is 00:56:19 They'll take a couple of chances with Khalif Raymond. And then Tyler Johnson had six targets for Tampa Bay, and he could end up being their number two receiver at least in the short term until Chris Godwin comes back Jamie is it easy to prioritize Travis Fulgham over Greg Ward if you're just looking at Eagles receivers yeah I mean you see the upside you know Greg Ward had a good game a few weeks ago but I mean look I think you're just chasing these guys because a they're going to struggle if they're the two guys again against Baltimore because of what Baltimore's defense is. And B, there's going to get reinforcements coming back to the Eagles. And in a couple of weeks, Jalen Rager should be back as well.
Starting point is 00:56:52 So I don't want to chase those performances from these two guys knowing what's coming for the Eagles. We have said, because it's a Claypool show, we have said chase so many times today. I do want to know how you guys feel about Rob Gronkowski, by the way. You know, six targets last week, 52 yards. Looks terrible. But is he a tight end that needs to be held on to? Held on to? Sure. I mean, you know, we're looking at maybe downward turns for Dalton Schultz.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Eric Ebron, not necessarily the most consistent producer. You have, you know, the concern over Hayden Hurst and the way he's performed and what's going to happen with this offense. So yeah, Gronk with, without Chris Godwin and without OJ Howard,
Starting point is 00:57:37 the first game was moderately encouraging, better in PPR than non PPR. Yeah. Like there's going to be a game where he eventually scores and then people will rush back to Rob Gronkowski. I don't know. I don't think he's ever going to resurge as a must-start fantasy tight end.
Starting point is 00:57:54 DST's Dolphins, Packers, Giants. Dolphins get the Jets. Packers are at Tampa Bay. And the Giants get Washington. Do you dare trust the Panthers' defense against Chicago? Actually, I was going to say, do you dare trust the football team against Jameis Jones and that terrible defensive line?
Starting point is 00:58:12 I mean, they should be able to get four sacks or more. Which DST do you like better in that lousy game, Giants football team? I actually think the Washington offensive line is worse than the Giants offensive line. Yeah, but the Washington pass rush is worse than the Giants offensive line. Yeah, but the Washington pass rush is better than the Giants pass rush. The Giants just lost their best pass rusher. Yeah, Carter is done.
Starting point is 00:58:33 I still would go with the Giants, but it's really close. They're both really, really crappy streaming choices. Yeah, it's another week of kind of lousy options. It's disappointing. You may see, aside from Claypool, choices. Yeah, it's another week of kind of lousy options. Disappointing. You may see, aside from Claypool, the Dolphins DST, the most added player unit this week. And you know what? They're finally like fully, truly healthy in the secondary because at the beginning of the year, Xavier Howard wasn't healthy.
Starting point is 00:59:00 Then Byron Jones got hurt. And that's supposed to be their strength, their're two cornerbacks, so that's good. Kicker streamers. Rodrigo Blankenship, you didn't mention because he's 76% rostered. But this guy's awesome. 15 field goals in five games. Get Blankenship. Mason Crosby's been having a really good year.
Starting point is 00:59:17 He's 45% rostered for the Packers. Youngway Koo, Matt Prater. Jason Sanders. Get Jason Sanders on the list. Sure. I've got two things before we go. I've got the drop-o-meter, and I've got eight emails in four minutes.
Starting point is 00:59:32 So let's go to the drop-o-meter first. Zero to ten on the drop-o-meter. Teddy Bridgewater. Assuming you picked him up last week for a streamer. Do you think he's a must roster, or is he just a waiver wire guy? Teddy Bridgewater. I'd put him at a five. I would like the other quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:59:50 that we talked about rest of season ahead of him. I'm not dropping him if I just lost. If I see Dak Prescott, fantasy manager looking for quarterbacks, I try to trade him first. Yeah, do that first, but I'd rather have those other guys rest of season. Russell Gage.
Starting point is 01:00:06 He's a 10 and non PPR and a 6 and PPR Jarek McKinnon oh agreed zero by the way we should have we could have a new game called hold number Fulgham team day
Starting point is 01:00:22 Tuesday Debo Samuel oh I don't want to let him go if he's my worst player Tuesday. Debo Samuel. I don't want to let him go. If he's my worst player, I'm dropping him for any of the receivers or running backs that we talked about today. So call that a four. Brandon Ayuk. Same. Four.
Starting point is 01:00:38 Dave, I do appreciate you giving numbers. I do. Dalton Schultz. Four. Mo Alleycox. Drop. Fulgham. I do. Dalton Schultz. Hold four. Mo Alleycox. Drop. Fulgham. Dump. Okay. Here's eight emails in four minutes.
Starting point is 01:00:54 This is from someone. I have both Hayden Hurst and Dalton Schultz. Who should I drop to pick up Madison? Schultz. Drop Schultz. Who should I drop to pick up Madison? Schultz. Drop Schultz. Okay.
Starting point is 01:01:10 From BT. Oh, I don't love either one, man. But I guess Schultz is the one you go up. This is from BT. How are you? I'm good. How are you? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:20 He's good. Would you trade Hayden Hurst for TJ Hawkinson? Yes. Yup. In a heartbeat. Yup. In a heartbeat. Yeah. This is from Matt in NorCal.
Starting point is 01:01:31 Dear Bill, Matt, Brian, Romeo, Charlie, and Josh. That would be the Patriots coaching tree. What did you say? Belichickians. Belichickians. Yeah, there you go. I have the top waiver wire. I have to decide between Andy Dalton,
Starting point is 01:01:45 Kyler Murray is my starter, andton, Kyler Murray is my starter, and yeah, Kyler Murray is my starter, Andy Dalton, Chase Claypool, or holding it and waiting for another week to use the top priority. Don't do it for Dalton, because that's a waste. Right. If you need receiver help,
Starting point is 01:01:59 then take a chance on Claypool, but I probably prefer to hold it. Yeah, no, he has Hopkins, Ridley, and Michael Thomas. He's good. Yeah, wait. Wait. Champgrinder says, in this environment, fantasy leagues need to go to waivers on Wednesday, then open the rest
Starting point is 01:02:16 of the week. Your thoughts? It's not a bad call. Obviously, we may have a few more Tuesday games coming, just the nature of how the season looks. So if that's a move your commissioner is willing to make, then make it. Scott Fishbowl has been doing waivers on Wednesdays for years. A lot of leagues do it on Wednesdays.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Yeah, there's no problem with that. Dear Joey, Chandler, and Ross, this one actually comes from Chandler. So kind of interesting throwing your own name in, your greeting. We'll be there for you. Yeah. I've been listening every night for two years all right cool i mean where were you for the first nine years but that's great thank you uh great the trade give up watching friends give up central park gala day nice gala day and dj
Starting point is 01:02:57 charke get jonathan taylor and michael gallup ppr g Galladay and Chark for Taylor and Gallup. Oh, I think you're giving up too much. Yeah. I mean, if you need the running back help, then it's an A because Galladay and Taylor are essentially a wash. And Taylor plays a more premium position that's harder to replace. So if I'm getting Taylor, I like it.
Starting point is 01:03:21 If I'm losing Taylor, I don't like it. If you can downgrade from either of the receivers, you can do it. Okay. John from Cincinnati. I had Dak. Can you rank these guys in four-point-per-passing touchdown leagues?
Starting point is 01:03:34 Bridgewater, Herbert, Tannehill, Carr, Fitzpatrick, Dalton. Bridgewater, Herbert, Tannehill, Carr, Fitzpatrick, Dalton. Dalton is a distant last. He's not last, but he's not first. It's Herbert, Carr, Lawnmower, Tannehill, Dalton, and then Fitzpatrick. What about Tannehill? Give me the names again.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Yeah. Herbert won. Bridgewater, Tannehill, Carr, Fitzpatrick, Dalton. Herbert, Tannehill, Fitzpatrick, Carr, Bridgewater, skip about 10 spots, Dalton. I put Dalton ahead
Starting point is 01:04:16 of Bridgewater. Rob wants to know who you like better rest of season, Mahomes or Rodgers? Mahomes. He only asked because Rodgers does not have a buy. It's a decent point. It's a fair point. And Rodgers is getting Devonta Adams back.
Starting point is 01:04:31 He actually has more fantasy points than Mahomes so far based on the games that they played, points per game. But I still like Mahomes better. And Jack wants us... I have a fun bet with Pete Prisco. I won't tell you what the bet is for. There you go, drink. So he has been deadly accurate on the season so far for Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers.
Starting point is 01:04:51 And he said in the middle of the game for Seattle, Minnesota, that Russell Wilson has just lost the MVP. So I bet him, I'm surprised he took it, he gets Allen and Rodgers for MVP. I get the field. Oh, my God. And then Wilson rebounds and has the second half. Oh, my God. So I get Wilson and Mahomes.
Starting point is 01:05:16 If it's just those two versus Rodgers and Allen, I like my chances a lot. Yeah, I like that. Dude, that fourth down catch by DK Metcalf was so awesome. That whole drive was just incredible. Whenever you see Russell circle, it's the best thing.
Starting point is 01:05:33 The last two games, Sunday and Monday night, I thought Monday night was like a boring, exciting game, but I think if we had fans at those games, those are probably the two best atmospheres in the NFL. Just would have taken it to another level.
Starting point is 01:05:50 It was a shame. Last trade here. Grade the trade from Jack. Give up Mixon and Gallup. Get Godwin and Gaskin. Mixon and Gallup for Godwin and Gaskin. I like the Godwin-Gaskin side. That is a C.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Oh, that's a B+. Okay. Good job, guys. Good show. Sorry we didn't get to recap the Saints game, but both those teams are going on a bye, so who cares about them? Quick update, Adam. Dalvin Cook, not expected to play this
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Starting point is 01:06:53 Chad Graff of The Athletic. He could miss. Vikings have a bye and then we'll reevaluate Cook if ready to return. Hello, Madison. Let's go. All right. Things are looking up for me in the IDP League. Thanks for listening, Madison. Okay. Let's go. All right. Things are looking up for me. My name is Alexander Madison.
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