Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire: DeeJay Dallas, Jordan Wilkins, Marvin Jones and More (11/03 Fantasy Football Podcast)
Episode Date: November 3, 2020We know there are some interesting RB adds this week but we're not necessarily agreeing on how to prioritize them. It's DeeJay Dallas, Jordan Wilkins, Damien Harris and Gus Edwards but in what order? ...We'll give you our top priorities at RB and a couple of WRs as well, tell you about some TEs with good upcoming schedules (11:04) and discuss FAB strategies (13:40) ... News and notes (20:06) and our Top 3 priorities at QB (28:00), RB (32:30), WR (36:30), TE (37:15), DST (40:04) and Kicker. Drew Lock, anyone? Marvin Jones, Sterling Shepard, Mecole Hardman, Eric Ebron and a number of good DST options are discussed ... Recapping Bucs-Giants (41:55), the Dropometer (48:22) and a deeper look at the waiver wire (50:00) at each position ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com You can also download and subscribe to the full-length Fantasy Football Today podcast here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-podcast/id261735167 Follow the new FFT Twitch channel: https://www.twitch.tv/FFToday Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @BenSchragg Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCviK78rIWXhZdFzJ1Woi7Fg/videos Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Welcome to your Waver Wire show. It is Tuesday morning.
The Eagles, Bengals, Browns, and Rams are on a bye.
So who are you picking up?
Wait till you hear the quarterbacks you're picking up this week.
Running backs to the wide receivers.
Everything's good, Jamie, except the quarterbacks.
Yuck on the quarterbacks.
It's miserable.
Miserable, miserable, miserable.
But you know what?
That probably means that there are good quarterbacks on a lot of fantasy rosters,
which is what we would prefer.
It's time to make a trade if you need a quarterback.
Yeah, and really, there aren't that, you know, look,
Wentz, Burrow, Mayfield, Goff on by.
So I guess you're right.
There are good quarterbacks on fantasy rosters.
That is a relief.
How would you guys describe the waiver wire?
I think it's great.
I think it's really fun this week. Jamie, how about you guys uh describe the waiver wire i i think it's great i think it's really fun this
week um jamie how about you i agree uh but i'm usually the most optimistic about the wire stuff
so uh but you know this is this is one of those weeks where there are multiple guys in multiple
positions aside from quarterback you know and uh obviously tight end everybody has a person in
their league looking for a starter now that george Kittle's out for most likely the season. There are still a rash of injuries. You know, the two big ones that
wide receiver that we're looking at this week are Kenny Galladay and Calvin Ridley. So, you know,
there's, there's at least, you know, trying to replace a potential starting wide receiver on,
on some teams and then the running backs, you know, there's, there's some good options,
you know, so they're interesting options,
but they're, they're good options.
If they, these guys get starting roles for at least one more week,
we don't know about the Seattle running back situation,
but DJ Dallas could be really good.
Michael hasty has an opportunity against a terrible run defense,
even with his team falling apart around him.
Jordan Wilkins could be the lead running back for the Colts, you know,
based on what just happened and the fact that Jonathan Taylor has an ankle injury.
There are guys that could help you.
Wide receiver is always going to be deep.
Again, there are guys out there.
That's a fun thing to do when you get to week nine in the waiver war.
Dave, what do you think?
I think it's good.
I think there's plenty of players that are out there.
Damian Harris, to me, is the top name.
At 61% rostered, maybe there's a chance he's still out on your waiver wire. If he is, he's got a chance to be someone that helps
put your team over the top and into the playoffs.
Give me your top three, four, however many priorities you got. Dave, you said
Damian Harris. Who else are you looking at? He's going to be number one. Gus Edwards is going to be my
number two. I really love the way the Ravens rather ran the ball against the Steelers.
Good blocking, even without Ronnie Stanley there.
Dobbins was the more explosive of the two, but Gus had a bunch of runs that were great.
And he's certainly, I think he's certainly more experienced, but maybe a little more physical at this point than JK.
And we know that he's got the better chance to work at the goal line.
And then I think Sterling Shepard will be my third one.
I think he's got,
especially in PPR,
a chance to be a reliable starter rest of season.
He has six or more catches in three and all three of his healthy games.
He left week two with an injury.
So if you don't want to count that,
you know,
you know,
I wouldn't Acer stat,
but that's a six, six targets, eight, and ten targets for Sterling Shepard
in three healthy games.
And he caught six to eight balls in all three of them.
So maybe he's a lot different depending on format.
But in PPR, I don't know how you don't have Sterling Shepard on your team.
45% rostered.
And we've been saying that for a couple weeks now.
Jamie, you heard Damian Harris, Gus Edwards, Sterling Shepard.
For Dave, how about you?
Who are some of your top priorities?
DJ Dallas is number one by far,
just based on what he could do this week
and what he should be able to do,
plus his roster percentage.
That's something you've got to factor in
because not a lot of people
are going to find Damian Harris.
Harris would be two,
with the hope that he's still out there
and what he should be able to do
this week against the Jets.
You never know what's going to happen
moving forward,
and he doesn't catch the ball,
but obviously he's the lead running back for the Patriots.
And then after him would be Jordan Wilkins.
Look, if you can get the number one running back for the Colts
and they decide to make a switch for whatever reason,
or if Taylor is hurt because of the ankle injury,
you want to have those guys on your team,
those three running backs.
So it's those three guys easily,
and I go back and forth between Wilkins and Harris
just based, again, on what the roster percentage is.
Dave, where are you on DJ Dallas? It's risky for sure.
Absolutely. And there's no chance that he's going to be the guy rest of season. If you need a guy
for just week nine, he's got a chance to have that opportunity. And I love the way that he
caught the ball on the offense and the touchdowns you can't argue with either, but not a great
rushing average. And this is still a Seattle team that's going to throw a lot man we've been waiting a long time to say
something like that so I if I've got the chance to get Damian Harris who I know will be the lead
back I think for the Patriots for the rest of the season I'll gladly take him out of DJ Dallas and
then Jordan Wilkins is another guy he had a great game it was a career best game for him. 20 carries career high,
89 yards rushing was great. But I don't believe it. I don't believe that he's truly going to be the feature back for Indianapolis the rest of the season. I'm almost positive that Jonathan
Taylor will eventually overtake him. And Naheem Hines is going to be a fly in the ointment.
And I'm nervous that people are going to go fab crazy on Jordan Wilkins,
and it's not going to pay off for them.
If you tell me Jonathan Taylor is going to miss any time,
then Jordan Wilkins is the number one running back to hat.
And then just reading the stuff out of Indianapolis this week,
they said, which was shocking because they were talking about Taylor so much
that, first of all, this wasn't an injury-related thing,
why Wilkins played over Taylor,
because Reich said he didn't know about the injury until after the game so it sounds like it could be somewhat of an excuse but they were saying that
Taylor was dancing too much down the line of scrimmage his time to the hole was the longest
that he's had all season was over three seconds prior to that he had been around two and a half
seconds and Wilkins was I think 2.89 if I read it correctly, which was among the fastest of the Colts running backs this season.
So they're clearly not happy with Taylor at this point.
The thing about Dallas is he did everything that you like from a fantasy running back in terms of leading the team in carries and working in a passing game, obviously getting the goal line opportunities.
And yes, he does not have as long of a leash as what Damien Harris should have.
But we're trying to win games right now.
And so if I can get a chance to get DJ
Dallas in a matchup against Buffalo, who's allowed
a running back to score in four games in a row,
two guys to go over 100 yards over that span,
one of which was Damien Harris,
I'm absolutely taking DJ Dallas first, and so
should you. But hold on.
Dallas,
it's not like he played that well.
2.3 yards per carry.
Doesn't matter.
He also did it against San Francisco.
But listen, 3.4 yards per catch.
It wasn't good there.
Travis Homer was active.
Travis Homer played, and he obviously was hurt.
It was an emergency situation.
All you need is Homer to be healthier.
Maybe they go back to him, or at least they split it.
Potentially.
Or Carlos Hyde plays, or Chris Carson plays.
Yeah, but everything you're hearing from Pete Carroll right now is,
first off, Carson may not even get on the field until Friday or Saturday.
So it doesn't sound very encouraging for him to play this week.
And Carlos Hyde, I don't know if he's going to play over DJ Dallas at this point
based on what we just saw.
What we just saw?
What?
It's Carson.
Was he so good?
First of all.
This was against San Francisco.
Give the defense credit. I will give the defense
credit, but don't give DJ Dallas that much
credit because he didn't play that well. And also,
you know, he's a rookie.
You got to worry a little bit about pass
protection, those types of things. I don't think DJ
Dallas is going to play over
Carlos Hyde.
It wouldn't
surprise me either, and it could be a
split, but you know he's not going
to play over chris carson and carson it sounds like he's got a chance this week and maybe it's
going to be by week 10 or 11 carson's back in the saddle is the lead guy and dj dallas is a scrap
sure i mean and look and let's let's face it with with damien harris whenever we get above 50 we're
talking to 10 team league fantasy managers here most most 12 team leagues have damien harris
roster sure right so why not gus edwards though right that's the other guy that i would well i mean
dobbins was better than edwards and edwards doesn't catch the ball if he doesn't score you're
getting you know those dead zone running back numbers that we don't like but he might have
he might have rest of season appeal it's not nearly as good as like harris and potentially
not even played more snaps than him mark Mark Ingram is going to come back.
I don't,
I don't know how great Gus Edwards is if he doesn't find the end.
Okay.
But we're just,
we're basically just talking,
we're comparing Dallas to Edwards.
We're basically just talking about this week.
We really don't think Mark Ingram is going to play this week.
Right?
Right.
That's the expectation.
Right.
So I'm just saying that if you,
okay,
if you told me that Carlos,
if you told me that Hyde and Carson were both out.
Yeah,
sure.
That's one thing but it seems like the possibility of the party being ruined for dj
dallas is i don't know at 50 so i just want to point that out so there's some risk there whereas
gus edwards seems like has a lot more certainty to get probably 12 to 15 carries something like
that yeah they're all they're all quality options to pick up off the waiver wire.
To me, DJ Dallas has the highest ceiling based on the matchup that he has,
based on the workload that he just had, based on his work in the passing game.
I'm going to shoot for upside more times than not,
and DJ Dallas has the most of this group.
Yeah, but Gus is playing.
Who do the Ravens have this week?
I was about to say the Steelers.
All right.
It's a tougher matchup for sure.
I don't know how much tougher it is.
He ran against the Steelers. Here's a tougher matchup for sure. I don't know how much tougher it is. He ran against the Steelers.
Here's what Pete Carroll
said about Chris Carson.
He will test out his foot Friday and evaluate
him Saturday to determine if he can play Sunday.
That does not sound very encouraging that he's not
going to practice all week. I don't know.
And then think about that. And this is to
your point, James. If they're going to go
and evaluate him on Saturday, does that mean
he's making the flight? He's going to go with
the team all the way to Buffalo to not play?
Maybe they evaluate him
on the tarmac before they get on the plane.
Who knows? But you guys don't. You think that
if Carlos Hyde... Maybe it's a little bit better than 50%.
Maybe it's a little bit better than 50%.
Don't Carlos Hyde me.
I guess I shouldn't say that.
You think that DJ Dallas is going to
jump Carlos Hyde? You're right. You should Carlos Hyde. I don't know if I'm right. I apologize for that. I don't say that. You think that DJ Dallas is going to jump Carlos Hyde? You're right.
You're right.
You're right.
You should Carlos Hyde.
I don't know if I'm right.
I apologize for that.
No, you are.
There's no way that if Carlos Hyde is active, DJ Dallas is going to be the one-man show.
And that's really what he had last week that helped him out was being the one-man show.
And if Hyde's there for whatever reason, if he practices, if Homer is ready to play, he's not a one-man
show anymore. I'll take Gus.
By the way, the next two games for
J.D. McKissick are against
teams that allow the fourth
most and sixth most receiving
yards per game to running backs.
So if you can't
get those other guys and you're in a PPR league,
maybe J.D. McKissick bounces
back after a bad game against
the Dallas Cowboys who only do one thing well, and
that is stop pass catching running backs. That's why I think
this is an interesting week. You got Marvin
Jones, obviously, and Sterling
Shepard, and that was a pretty
spirited debate about the running backs, but
Damian Harris is high on the list. Gus Edwards,
DJ Dallas, Jordan Wilkins,
and a couple of tight ends
who have great schedules coming up.
Eric Ebron's been in the midst of a great schedule run,
and he usually gets you around 50 yards, which isn't bad.
Dallas this week, and then it gets even better than that
with Cincinnati and Jacksonville,
who are 30th and 31st against tight ends.
And Austin Hooper coming off a bye.
He had six to ten targets and exactly five catches
in three straight games.
So that's great for PPR.
He faces the Texans.
They allow the eighth most points to tight ends.
And then the Eagles and then the Jaguars.
He doesn't face a team that's not 20th or worse against tight ends
until week 15, I believe.
And that's the Giants who aren't that good against tight ends anyway.
So Ebron and Hooper have good schedules.
I want to ask you about Corey Davis,
if he's available.
67% rostered.
Been great stuff so far.
Two straight games with 10 targets.
But Bears and Panthers,
next two weeks,
they are second and fifth.
Do I have that right?
Or is it Bears and Colts?
I'm sorry, it's not the Panthers.
Bears and Colts.
Bears this week.
Let's start with that.
Like Corey Davis,
how interested are you in him?
Because he's obviously a hot name,
but Bears have only allowed
two touchdowns to wide receivers.
They give the second fewest fantasy points.
Very interested.
I mean, you can't get past
what the targets have been for him,
what the production has been for him.
And he has been,
this year's Devontae Parker,
a guy written off for you
know his own team and has played fantastic and has put himself in a great spot going into free agency
so look AJ Brown is obviously still the number one guy for the Titans you still have John Newsmith
even though he's been struggling of late you know they're going to run the ball but Ryan Tannehill
and Corey Davis have a strong connection and anytime you get a receiver that's getting you
know double digit targets are close to that which is what Davis has been basically all season it's Ryan Tannehill and Corey Davis have a strong connection. And anytime you get a receiver that's getting double-digit targets
or close to that, which is what Davis has been basically all season,
it's hard to overlook what he could be and what he has been.
So, yes, tough matchup, but I'm still going to start Corey Davis
as a low-end number two receiver, definitely as a high-end number three guy.
And so if I'm in a three-receiver league, I'd love to have Corey Davis on my team.
Absolutely.
And I love the fact that he's given you at least 11 PPR points
every game of the season. He's given you at least 11 PPR points every game this season.
He's played five. Five for five.
That's a great safe floor, and he's given you
at least 15 PPR points in three of the five.
By the way, Shraggy B
says, Carlos Hyde not expected
to play in Week 9.
That certainly helps.
Certainly helps for DJ Dallas. Buffalo has been
just horrible against the run. It would be a great
opportunity for him.
I guess you don't think,
just to go back to that,
you don't think Travis Homer would play ahead of him?
He might be the passing downs guy.
Okay.
All right, let's talk fab. I don't think they're comfortable with Homer
in a bigger role than that.
Let's talk fab here.
How much fab are you guys looking at
for your top priorities?
See, now here's the thing,
because you're at a point in the season where if you're desperate, you gotta spend whatever you gotta spend looking at for your top priorities? See, now here's the thing, because this is,
you're at a point in the season
where if you're desperate,
you know, you got to spend
whatever you got to spend
to get the guys on your team
just to help you get some production.
So, you know, that's the first thing
you got to say
whenever you're looking at Fab
or, you know,
holding the top waiver spot,
you know, don't just sit on it
and sit on it and sit on it
for the big injury,
because, you know,
that just may not happen for you
if you're stuck.
I'm going to, you know,
the way that I'm writing it is right around 15 percent um for these running
backs because there is no certainty for any of them you know even damien harris as the lead
running back for the patriots because in the two games prior to the bills game he was bad because
the team was bad and so yes they get the jets this week but it's no guarantee that he's going
to be good because of the catchable you know so he a, he's a guy that you got to factor in, in terms of spending your fab budget as well. So, uh, I would say
around 15%, but it, it, it kind of goes in hand with, you know, where you're at in your league,
where you're at in your season and what you need to do to get these guys on your roster.
Is there two players, honestly, that I would spend a lot on, and this is going to sound weird
is Nick Mullins and Jake Luton. Because finding quarterbacks
and two quarterback in super flex leagues
is impossible.
And so to get these guys,
you might have to spend a little bit more.
And you're probably desperate
if you're looking for a quarterback at this point.
So I totally get that.
Is there a long-term play?
We're talking so much about week nine.
But who's the guy that you think
could actually stay on your roster
and help you most weeks if there is?
Harris is first if he's there.
Sterling Shepard would be second for me.
Could Marvin Shepard be up there? Shepard would be first.
Shepard would be first.
Over Damian Harris?
Yes.
All right.
Maybe that just depends on what you need.
Yeah, I don't know.
I mean, I'm always in a PPR mindset,
so Damian Harris is always going to be somewhat low in those formats
because he doesn't catch the ball, He doesn't score. You're screwed. In terms of long-term I put
Jordan Reed in that conversation. You know, if he's the guy now for the 49ers, clearly there's
a, there's some upside there because of the kiddle injury of the other receivers, you know, of the,
of the ones who are available in most leagues, Alan Lazard. I mean, we saw what he was at the
start of the season. You know,
that's some something you can look at, you know,
if you want to talk Patriots, probably Jacoby Myers, you know,
just based on what he's shown you the last couple of games and after the
Julian Edelman injury. Right. And then I would still look at Debo Samuel.
I don't know what notes you're looking at Adam from what I sent you,
but you know, Kendrick Bourne is clearly the more immediate ad.
And I think they're going to have to throw
just based on how this team's going to look.
But Deebo Samuel would be somebody that I'd try and stash if you can
just because they're going to end up having to use both wide receivers
now that Kittle's hurt.
Where did Marvin Jones end up on your list?
He's the first receiver to add this week for me.
But, you know...
Ahead of Shepard?
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, he got Minnesota,
right?
I mean,
so Marvin Jones
against Minnesota
seems like
a pretty damn good
ad.
Dave,
agree?
I'd rather have Shepard
just for the rest
of season appeal.
I could see that,
but what about
just this week,
Shepard or Marvin Jones?
I have Shepard
one spot ahead
of Marvin Jones
in my
non-PPR
and several spots
ahead of him in PPR.
Okay.
Yeah, Minnesota allowing the second most fantasy points
to wide receivers.
How about this?
The last four number one wide receivers
to face the Vikings
have all scored 16 or more non-PPR,
22 or more PPR fantasy points.
He is not as good as they are, I would say.
They are Will Fuller, DK Metcalf,
Julio Jones, and Devante Adams.
Maybe he's in the Will Fuller class.
I mean, they're in the same group of five, I would say, yeah. Maybe Fuller, DK Metcalf, Julio Jones, and Devontae Adams. Maybe he's in the Will Fuller class.
They're in the same group of five, I would say.
Maybe Fuller.
It's going to be a big week for him.
It could be a really good week for Marvin Jones.
That's my point.
And moving forward.
I mean, look, we don't know how long Galladay's going to be out.
Yeah.
Now, his next two matchups, I think it's worth pointing out.
His next two matchups after this week, Minnesota for Marvin Jones,
Washington, their third against wide receivers, and Carolina their fifth. I don't know how much...
Shouldn't the Washington defense, which I don't buy,
but shouldn't that factor into picking up Shepard?
If you're just looking one week. Well, the thing about
Shepard is like he's
just catches, I feel. Oh, I like Shepard
a lot. I think Shepard is very
good. And long term, he's probably better than
Marvin Jones if there is no Kenny Galladay.
If Kenny Galladay... If there is Kenny Galladay, right. And so... But yeah, probably better than Marvin Jones if there is no Kenny Galladay if Kenny Galladay
right and so
but yeah I mean Marvin Jones has such
a big opportunity in front of him now that
to me he's the easy one to go first
I'm not buying that football
team past defensive but we haven't
seen them without Landon Collins yet
and he's out for the year so and it's so
weird because like
in the first game for the Giants,
Darius Slayton was probably on his way to a big game,
and he got hurt.
And so I think Slayton could be better than Shepard this week
just based on the big playability because now Slayton is hopefully
escaping these past two games of some brutal coverage
that he's had to deal with.
We have so many more names to talk about.
A guy like Jacoby Myers is pretty interesting.
If you just need to plug somebody in and hope to get 10 PPR points or something like that.
What about the players you picked up last week, like Nelson Aguilar?
The players that were really badly affected by the weather.
Could they bounce back?
Let's see.
Alan Zard, we talked about.
Mikko Hardman, Jalen Rager.
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I guess surprisingly competitive.
Did you guys enjoy that game?
Sure.
Yeah, you know, it was
a little frustrating to see the Bucs
not play the way that they
had been playing the last couple of weeks.
It was a little frustrating with the Ronald Jones
Leonard Fournette split.
If you still were buying into Ronald Jones,
which doesn't seem to be something you should do moving forward.
It was a little frustrating to see Mickens play ahead of Tyler Johnson
for anybody that used Tyler Johnson in daily
because of the absence of Chris Godwin.
But look, Daniel Jones made some great throws.
That touchdown pass to Golden Tate was as pretty a throw as you'll find.
The touchdown pass to Deion Lewis was as pretty a throw as you'll find.
He is maddening to watch.
I'm sure for you, Adam, as a Giants fan.
And just a little, you know, all these names that we've talked about, let's not overlook
Wayne Gallman, who, you know, it's not pretty as well but he's been productive in in his two opportunities now and he does have a decent matchup against the Washington
football team this week yeah all right more we'll get back to that game a little bit later you got
the Gronkowski touchdown and the Mike Evans touchdown I'd say Bradbury did a pretty decent
job on him but he did score okay news and notes George Kittle so you can probably drop him
hopefully you have an IR spot maybe you get him back for fantasy playoff game but he's out roughly He did score. Okay, news and notes. George Kittle, so you can probably drop him.
Hopefully you have an IR spot.
Maybe you get him back for a fantasy playoff game,
but he's out roughly eight weeks.
Jordan Reed could be back.
Reed was pretty damn involved in weeks two and three.
He caught two touchdowns in one of those games. He almost had a touchdown.
He was just out of the end zone in one game against the Giants,
so don't overlook him if he plays.
It's a Thursday game, so we don't know if he's going to play.
Which is the most shocking thing
of fantasy football in 2020?
That we are in week nine
and we are talking about Jordan Reed,
Antonio Brown, Le'Veon Bell,
Adrian Peterson,
and we just got finished watching a game
where Alfred Morris had relevant touches.
Oh my gosh.
I confess the day of last night.
I had no idea Alfred Morris was on the Giants.
No idea. He got the handoff.
I was like, who the hell is that?
And he got eight carries to
12 for Gallman. So that was
kind of frustrating. You'd be maybe a little more
excited about Gallman if
he didn't get
60% of the carries.
It's a weird year.
And Antonio Brown coming back this week as well.
Did you mention that?
Yes.
Sorry.
I had a feeling you did.
Jimmy Garoppolo out six or more weeks with an ankle injury.
And I'll just tell you, Nick Mullins, he throws a lot of interceptions,
which is a problem, but he basically scores 20 or more points in half his games.
So it's not like that bad if you're looking at two QB leagues and what.
Well, I mean, he did in 2018 half of his games,
four of 80 and 23 or more points.
He's done it this year too.
Well, he started three games when he was benched.
So, and when he was at 19 points.
Right.
But he torched the Giants, just didn't get the touchdowns.
And he came off the bench and in one quarter,
he scored 20 points or 23 points or whatever it was against the Seahawks. Right. Right, but he torched the Giants, just didn't get the touchdowns. And he came off the bench, and in one quarter,
he scored 20 points or 23 points or whatever it was against the Seahawks.
Right, but he was also, the second start he made this year,
he was benched for C.J. Beathard.
So just factor that in. Yeah, that's true.
Kenny Galladay out week nine.
He's considered week to week.
Don't know yet about Calvin Ridley.
You mushed both of these guys.
You with your stupid comparison, Galladay versus Ridley.
Look what you did.
What? Me?
Yes. You kept asking who's better rest of season and you killed them both.
Well, yeah. My bad.
That's what I do.
That's what I do. I kill Kenny.
I'm a bastard.
We've got some COVID situations.
Cleveland, they're on a bye.
AJ, okay.
What happens if AJ Dillon and Jamal Williams both don't play
because Dylan has COVID
and ready for Dexter Williams. Okay.
Dexter Williams is Aaron Rogers.
Maybe Aaron Jones.
Right. Could he play this week?
Well, yeah, I mean, that would be the best thing.
And, you know, get ready for 50,000 touches for him
if he's the guy out there, which would be awesome. But
yeah, if you're
the Jamal Williams fantasy manager
and you've been kind of riding this fun wave,
which has been great for his fantasy production,
you know, be prepared for him not to play.
Right, because he may have been in close contact with Dylan
and they've been clearing those players pretty quickly, it seems.
Today is a big day for him
because I believe if he's not clear today, he can't play.
We got to keep an eye on the Ravens and the Steelers.
Marlon Humphrey played the game with COVID.
So there are going to be some contact tracing there.
Jonathan Terror's got the ankle, Darrell Henderson, the thigh injury.
They're on a bye.
Sam Darnold.
What's the update?
We have an update on Sam Darnold, an MRI on his shoulder.
The update is you shouldn't start him unless you're in a two quarterback
league.
Yeah.
They expect him to play at this point.
If I'm the Jets, I don't know if I'd be willing to risk it
if they're still viewing Sam Darnold as their franchise guy
or trade chip once they draft Trevor Lawrence.
I don't know how they win.
I don't know how they don't get Trevor Lawrence
unless Trevor Lawrence stays in college.
Well, that's the thing.
Does Trevor Lawrence look at it and go,
oh, yeah, I'm going back to Clemson.
They're so bad.
Kenyon Drake unlikely to play this week.
May not miss much more time.
We're probably going to see Jamal Adams this week
for the Seahawks,
but not necessarily Chris Carson or Carlos Hyde.
Like, if you're the Jets,
how do you not hire Eric Bien-Ami
and say to Trevor Lawrence,
we are going to create as much of a chief's environment as we potentially can
from the guy who's just been coaching. I use that, you know,
term as the offense coordinator for, for Patrick Mahomes.
Obviously Andy Reid has a huge influence on it,
but Eric Biennium being the offense coordinator for Patrick Mahomes with
Trevor Lawrence, like that,
that to me is the only way I'm Trevor Lawrence. Go to the Jets. Give me a coach
that I can trust. The millions and millions of dollars
that you get for being the number one overall pick ain't bad
either, but I would love
for the Jets to do the right thing, and that sounds
like the right thing. And they've already got
some pieces, a few pieces, in place
on offense. Yeah.
That tackle is going to be good.
Damon Williams on Twitch
talked to us and said,
he just raved about Eric Biannimi.
He's awesome.
He's awesome.
Did he rave about Adam Gase?
You know, he didn't.
I asked him.
He didn't trash Adam Gase or anything like that.
He was being diplomatic, as I recall.
It's been a little while.
But, you know, you just don't.
I don't.
What we never know about these coaching searches is who actually wants the job. I don't know if anybody wants to't, I don't, we never know
about these coaching searches
is who actually wants the job.
Who,
I don't know if anybody
wants to go to the Jets,
but having the number one
overall pick would help.
Guarantee you,
there will be coaches
who want to go to the Jets.
everybody wants to go to the Jets
if they have the number one pick.
If they have the number one pick.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
look,
Joe Douglas is a good GM.
I don't want to,
you know,
lump him in with Adam Gase.
Or he has a chance
to be a good GM.
We'll see.
You know, this is a team that's just been a disaster for years. And so, I don't want to lump him in with Adam Gase. Or he has a chance to be a good GM. We'll see.
This is a team that's just been a disaster for years.
And so maybe Douglas gets the ax as well,
and they just clean house with everybody.
But right coach, first pick.
Some nice pieces that you can hopefully build around.
They got the two picks from Seattle that they'll use,
hopefully, the right way.
But Adam Gates has to go.
Yeah, it's going to happen.
Okay, just real quick.
The Saints acquired linebacker Quan Alexander from San Francisco.
If you're in an IDP league, you might be too late on this.
But Dre Greenlaw, who's a San Francisco linebacker,
Dre Greenlaw has been filling in, and he'll get a lot of run.
Now, he's been good in IDP, so take a look at him.
Tennessee acquired cornerback Desmond King for a sixth-round pick from the Chargers.
Detroit defensive end Trey Flowers is on IR.
This could be a good week for the Vikings.
Obviously, it's going to be for Dalvin Cook, but...
Start Dalvin Cook.
We'll see if we like Kirk Cousins this week.
We'll talk about that in a moment.
And Chargers defensive end Joey Bosa
in the concussion protocol,
which would certainly help Derek Carr and Las Vegas.
Let's do our favorite at each position here.
We have not talked enough about guys like, well, any quarterbacks.
So let's start with that.
Top three quarterback priorities, Jamie.
Well, this is an ugly group, but if you're desperate,
I like what Drew Locke did in coming back against the Chargers last week.
I hope that he gets getting Tim Patrick back because Patrick was close.
Then he would have his full complement of receiving options,
I think, for the first time all season, factoring in Cortland Sutton
not being there because of the ACL tear.
But it's a decent matchup.
You know, when you look at the Falcons,
I know that they've turned the corner a little bit under Raheem Morris, but some of it is circumstantial. You talked about this, Adam,
about the low pass volume for Teddy Bridgewater, how little they had the ball last week's game.
Prior to that though, every quarterback over 300 yards passing, every quarterback in, aside from
the last two games, multiple touchdowns. So Stafford a little bit unlucky to throw for 340
and only get the one score. So I think Drew Locke in a 14 team or 16 team league. If you're desperate, it can be okay.
Nick Foles, same thing coming off his second 20 point game of the season. First as a starter,
because his first came against the Falcons when he stepped in for Trubisky, but another favorable
matchup, the Titans, either 300 passing yards or multiple touchdowns in every game since week one.
And so I think that Foles will have an opportunity to be in that 20-point range again.
So 14-team, 16-team league, that's really the only type of leagues that you're looking at these quarterbacks for.
Again, aside from potentially Mullens or Luton into quarterback or super flex leagues where you just might be desperate and you're looking for some hope.
You said Locke and Foles. Is there a there a third kirk cousins would be the third yeah you know i
mean look 14 pass attempts last week uh it's clearly a guy that is not going to be a high
volume passer if you just go by the trends he's five of seven games with 27 passes or less but
in two of his last three against the lions you're going back over two seasons now he has uh two
games with, I think
it's 25 or more fantasy points. It might be more than that. It has to be more than that because
he had a three-touchdown game and a four-touchdown game in back-to-back games prior to his last
meeting against them. So the hope would be, and it stinks that there's no Gallaudet, but give the
Lions some credit. Their run defense has turned the corner a little bit. Not that they're going
to stop Dalvin Cook and clearly not benching Dalvin Cook, but if they contain Dalvin Cook and
their offense shows up and then it's a little bit more of a shootout, then Kirk Cousins hopefully
will have to throw a little bit. So again, we're talking 18 to 20 fantasy points is kind of where
these guys lie, which puts them in the, you know, at best mid-teens. But you're just, this is,
this is just completely desperation plays at this point. You know, none of these guys are must start guys by any stretch in 12 team leagues.
And if you can, because people, whether it was the weather or whether it was by weeks
or whatever the case may be, Derek Carr could still be out there.
He's, uh, I think 70% is his roster percentage.
Um, I think 80, I think 80 with him.
Um, I'm sorry.
80 for him.
Yes.
Stafford 79 and Cam Newton 75.
So if those three guys are available
who do you like how would you rank them car stafford cam newton car stafford stafford last
against minnesota yeah just because of the injury right okay but i mean cars should have look give
car credit he's been fantastic this season and throughout last week's game because of the weather
but i think you look at this Chargers defense,
they're down a corner now.
They're potentially down Bosa.
Their defense gives up.
Like here, the formula for success against the Chargers
is go down 24-3.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you're going to storm back
and have an amazing fourth quarter
and you're going to look like the best quarterback in football.
I think it's, I think I said this yesterday,
but I think it's four straight games
they've had a 16-point lead or more.
It's an NFL record.
Yeah, and they've lost all of them. Dave, real quick, I said this yesterday, but I think it's four straight games. They've had a 16 point lead or more. It's an NFL record. Yeah.
And they've lost all of them.
Dave, real quick.
I kind of feel like I may have just jinxed the jets.
Maybe they beat the Patriots this week, but no.
Cam Newton, how much confidence do you have in him?
75% rostered.
I originally had him on the drop-o-meter.
Then I saw he was.
No.
Yeah.
I understand.
I understand it's the jets, but by God he's been so bad
but uh the Jets have have given up a 57 yards and a touchdown rushing to Josh Allen 31 yards
and a touchdown rushing to Kyler Murray and then 61 yards to Allen last week so that bodes well
for Cam how much do you like him this week I flirted with putting him in my top 12 at quarterback
this week I can't do it I like Staff better. Last four quarterbacks had at least 24 fantasy points
each against Minnesota.
Galladay, no Galladay.
He didn't have Galladay
for a lot of last week.
He had one of his best games
of the season.
So maybe it helps
not having that big target there.
Maybe it's kind of
what we thought with Baker
going into last week.
But I would take Stafford,
but that's it.
I'd rather have
Newton over Carr.
I think I'll have a good game.
I think the Patriots will find a way to win.
They'll probably run their way to win,
and Cam will be a big part of that.
All right, running back we've already talked about,
but for Jamie, DJ Dallas is number one.
For Dave, Damian Harris.
We're also looking at Gus Edwards.
I mentioned JD McKissick.
Strictly a PPR thing.
And yeah, you never know.
He's not even on my list.
You never know how reliable the receiving totals are for running backs.
But Giants and I think the Lions are his next two games.
And they've given up the fourth and the sixth most receiving yards to running backs for what that's worth.
So who else?
Wayne Gallman, what's your interest level on him?
The football team, actually, their run defense has been really damn good lately. the running backs for what that's worth. So who else? Wayne Gallman, what's your interest level on him?
The football team, actually,
their run defense has been really damn good lately.
But so has Tampa Bay's and so has Philadelphia's and Gallman hasn't been that bad.
So is he a decent consolation prize?
He is.
Again, we don't know if Devontae Freeman is going to play.
He was working out on the side all last week,
not doing anything with the team.
But obviously their practice regimen
was kind of thrown out of whack because of the COVID-19 stuff. So, you know, maybe Freeman has
a chance to return this week. And clearly if that happens, you're going to want to start him over
Wayne Gallman. But if Gallman gets the chance to, you know, play again as the lead running back
there for the Giants, he scored him two straight. It's an easier matchup than what he's played in
the last two games. So that's something that should be encouraging for him. But as you saw, Deion Lewis had the touchdown
reception. They played him in some obvious passing downs. And as you mentioned, Adam, previously,
the Alphamores problem there too. So I was a little frustrated with Gallman's work in the
passing game because he had the five catches two games ago against Philadelphia and then only one
catch on one target.
So I'd like to see him get more involved in that area of the game.
And can I just make one thing clear?
I think rest of season DJ Dallas doesn't have a lot of value,
but if you're really in week to week mode, maybe you're three and five,
you can't afford another loss and you're really hurting at running back and
you can't get Damian Harris.
I have Dallas ranked ahead of everybody else on the list.
And that's as of now, we
don't know if Carson's going to come back and end up
being a problem that takes DJ
Dallas off the field. But for now,
sure, he can be your top waiver claim
at running back if you just
got to get a win in week nine.
So to Michael
Hasty, if he's barely available, 82%
rostered, but I'm assuming you guys love
him this week against Green Bay? Sure. for two reasons one it's still the you know essentially fourth string
running back for the 49ers uh it's a fantastic matchup but Adam you brought this up when we did
our you know sort of emergency uh top to your podcast yesterday um or lead to the podcast
yesterday that George Kittle's absence is
terrible for this run game. And so while it's such a strength and the matchup is so good,
you should be starting to Michael Hasty, but I wouldn't be like, oh my God, I got the 49ers
running back against the Packers. I'd be like, I got the 49ers running back against the Packers.
You sound kind of pumped about the fourth string Seahawks running back against the Bills.
Yeah, because their offense is at full strength. I mean, you're talking about, you know, backup quarterback
backup tight end.
You know, so there's just a lot of stuff going on with San Francisco. That's that's bad, unfortunately.
And it sucks because I do think to Michael Hasey's we're starting. And yes, if he's available,
you should go pick him up because there are some people that probably dropped him after Tevin Coleman
was ruled active. And I get it but you know you still saw you want to talk about bad
rushing average uh what was he 12 for 29 yeah yeah he was game against seattle so yeah he was
nine for 57 the week before but they'd score a touch they score rushing touchdown i think all
for one week you pointed that out so yeah we like hasty if they're behind we saw mckinnon play a lot
and so you know mckinnon play a lot.
And so, you know, McKinnon might be the best San Francisco running back,
especially in PPR.
Yeah.
J.K. Dobbins obviously is a high priority.
Justin Jackson has 96 receiving yards in his last two games.
And Vegas allows the second most receiving yards to running backs.
So he's another 72% roster, Justin Jackson.
And then, of course, there's Zach Moss,
who might have a lot of long-term appeal and is 71% rostered.
Okay, Dave, let's talk about wide receivers.
Give me three, four-ish names to know.
Shepard's at the top of the list,
both in terms of week nine and rest of season,
especially in PPR.
He's going to be consistent,
safe floor type of receiver.
If you can stash Alan Lazard,
I would go in that direction next. But if you need to win now,
Marvin Jones,
McCall Hardman,
Jacoby Myers,
Curtis Samuel.
Okay.
Say it again.
Sterling Shepard.
So if you're looking just for a receiver in week nine,
it's Shepard one,
Marvin Jones,
two,
McCall Hardman,
three,
Jacoby Myers, four, and then Curtis Samuel after that. But if you're looking long-term, throw Alan Laz, it's Shepard one, Marvin Jones two, Nicole Hardman three, Jacoby Myers four, and then Curtis Samuel after that.
But if you're looking long-term, throw Alan Lazard right behind Shepard.
Where would Corey Davis rank if he were available?
Top of them all.
Okay.
Jamie, tight ends?
Well, Ebron should be the first one you look for.
Obviously, coming off a strong game against Baltimore,
gets a great matchup against Dallas,
and based on his availability, could be out there in some 12 team leagues but 10 team leagues
as well for the Kittle fantasy manager Logan Thomas I'll buy into what he's done prior to his
bye week and you know hopefully we see a little bit of an uptick in targets but he's been at least
productive with the minimal targets and then I'll put Jordan Reed third but if you have two roster
spots to play with and this is more for the Kittle manager,
pick up Austin Hooper, you know, just with the idea of hopefully his return, which is what Kevin Stefanski said following their bye week. And if he is back out there without Odell Beckham, don't
judge the Browns based on this game in week nine, because excuse me, week eight, because of the wind,
it was just a terrible situation for both of those teams. But clearly there's an opportunity for
Hooper because
beckham's absence and what he was starting to do prior to the appendix injury yeah are we sure
jordan reed's playing no no we're not sure jordan reed's playing but long term you know that's the
the guy that should step into the george kittle role and you know i know ross dwelly caught a
touchdown but we've seen enough of ross dwelly to know that unless he's playing the cardinals in
2019 or 2018 i don't know how much you want to trust him. Right. So
first of all, I don't like using Jordan Reed and long-term in the same sentence. It just
doesn't feel right. But if he's available, I agree. You should go get him.
That's true. And if he's not, there are still other tight ends
that are going to be out there that you could use as an emergency replacement for him if he
doesn't end up playing in week nine.
These aren't exciting names.
Darren Fels, Dalton Schultz,
Mike Kosicki, Jimmy Graham, and Irv Smith
only had the one stinking catch.
I wish it was a little bit more than that.
That's the thing. Should we not
forget about Irv Smith?
It's hard to tell
somebody to stash Irv Smith in week nine.
I get that, but I'm willing to,
I'm willing to just forget about some of these wind games,
uh,
from week eight,
you know,
well,
that wasn't a wind game.
That was a win game because cook was cooking.
It was both though,
but you're right.
Uh,
but he only threw 14 passes in that game,
which even for Kirk cousins is pretty low.
Uh,
I don't know.
I,
I'll go back to what Scott Smith said,
that every time Dalvin Cook has been healthy,
we haven't seen a lot from Irv Smith.
That's a great point, too.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, so Eric Ebron, Logan Thomas, Jordan Reed,
and I will ask you, if you don't need a tight end,
you're just looking at the rest of these guys long-term,
is Hooper the best long-term?
Yes, yes, yes.
I would say also, which, you know,
according to reports yesterday,
Monday, that Andy
Dalton still in the concussion protocol, Ben
DiNucci brought Dalton Schultz back to life.
So Dalton Schultz could be somebody in PPR
for sure that you can look at even in the matchup
against Pittsburgh. I think Dalton Schultz played almost
every snap in that game too. He was on
the field a lot. Okay, DST.
This is a fun DST week.
Fun DST week.
Yes, it is.
All right, Jamie,
why don't you give us your top three?
Well, I mean, you know,
you're guaranteed a turnover from Daniel Jones.
He has won in all but one of his starts
on his career.
So the Washington football team,
you know, they did a nice job against him
in the first time,
and their defensive line will hopefully be healthy
coming off their bye week. So that's a good one. Look, the Dolphins had a great win
to a tongue of Iloa did not do much. So you get the Cardinals coming off a bye to his first road
trip. That's when I would look for. And then as you said, Adam, Nick Mullins throws interceptions.
So the Packers coming off a frustrating loss, you know, I think that they'll be able to,
if they're playing with a lead and Mullins is chasing points, he'll get erratic.
So the Packers would be one that I would look for as well.
Honestly, I think the Giants are interesting.
They had a great game.
Giants would be the fourth one.
I only gave you three, but the Giants would be the fourth.
Yeah, and the Giants are the 12th best DST.
I mean, it really depends on your scoring,
but this one league that I use, it's just like a kind of standard
old school league.
They're 12th per game, and they crushed the football team a few weeks ago.
They had to pick six to score like 17 points.
Dave, is there any other DST?
Oh, Houston.
What about Houston against Jake Luton?
Come on.
I don't really want to trust them.
They're not that good of a defense.
Okay.
I noticed the Titans get a lot of interceptions, and I noticed Nick
Foles likes to throw some of those, too.
So you
should be happy with your DST
this week, I think. Kickers,
who wants to take this one?
Jamie does, because
I haven't looked. Well, you got
Farrah Barron, who had a double-digit fantasy game against the
Jaguars the first time around, so he gets Jacksonville again.
Zane Gonzalez has been good as part of a good offense.
He gets the Dolphins at home.
And then anybody facing the Jets, you know they're going to score points,
so I'd put Nick Folk as the third option.
Great. Thank you.
Tampa Bay 25, Giants 23.
Tom Brady did finish with 23 fantasy points.
It was a bit of a struggle.
He threw 40 passes, which is pretty typical for him.
Yeah, interesting game, I guess. Let's
talk about Fournette and Ronald Jones.
Don't do anything wrong ever, Ronald
Jones. That's my advice to you
because you're going to get benched.
And he fumbled and he basically
barely played after that.
Is there any doubt in your mind who you'd rather
have rest of season? Is it clearly Fournette?
It's Fournette,
but I don't feel
amazing having either one.
Fournette had a lot of... He had a couple of
really nice runs that were blocked well,
and then there were a lot of runs that looked like he was diving
to find the line of scrimmage. It did not look good
at all. His role in the passing game needs
to be better. I think that he's
the one you'd rather have rest of season, and
it's two mistakes in consecutive
weeks for Rojo.
So it's going to be part-time work for him moving forward.
I'm sure.
The snap count was 73% for Fournette, 51 snaps.
Ronald Jones played 17 snaps, 24%. Yeah.
I mean, Bruce Arians does not like Ronald Jones.
Whenever he screws up, it's just go sit down.
So I think you just look at it as Fournette should be the better of the two.
What do you think
about Mike
Evans? Five catches, 55 yards,
and a touchdown. He also got open for a deep ball.
Bradbury knocked it away. Great play
by Bradbury. Yeah, and he
killed him on that route too, Mike Evans.
What do you think about him? He says he's
close to 100%. Well, that's good. Antonio
Brown's coming back. We know he's getting a ton of red zone targets, though,
which is good.
That's good.
The problem for Mike Evans isn't so much Antonio Brown this week.
It's Chris Godwin.
Now, I was a little surprised in the report Sunday from Schefter
because what I thought was Godwin was going to be out two weeks,
and Schefter said that the injury was four to six weeks
and that Godwin does have a shot to return next week meaning this week so if Godwin's still out Antonio Brown
doesn't bother me as much from Mike Evans if Godwin and Brown are there then I'm concerned
about Mike Evans so uh you also have the Lattimore matchup which we know has been a problem for him
Lattimore has not played well this season by comparison he's still a good cornerback but
Allen Robinson turned around a couple times in that game against Chicago.
So I wouldn't necessarily fear a lot more if I'm Mike Evans' fantasy manager if there's no Godwin.
But if Godwin plays, then I think you've got to go back to Evans as more of a touchdown or bust number three receiver.
It'll feel like the game that he just had is going to be pretty close to his ceiling.
Five for 55 and a touchdown. I mean, he's missed the end zone, what, once on the air?
Or twice?
Yeah, once, I think.
And so I think you mentioned, Adam,
they mentioned last night that Brady is six for six
in the red zone going to Mike Evans.
So who's your favorite Bucs wide receiver
beginning week nine?
Rest of season?
Godwin.
Really? Even with the injury uncertainty?
Yep.
Yeah.
Okay. It's a finger injury. So, you know the injury uncertainty? Yep. Yeah. Okay.
It's a finger injury, so hopefully he is back next week.
But it could change by week 10 if Antonio Brown looks like Antonio Brown.
So two questions real quick here.
Why are people just clinging to Darius Slayton?
I guess you see the game, and boy, he got wide open
on the interception
where Jones didn't see
him. Jamel Dean is horrible. Oh my gosh.
Good job by the ESPN
crew for pointing out how horrible of a game
Jamel Dean had. I should say he had a horrible
game, not that he is horrible, but Slayton was
burning him every time, basically.
It seemed like he just didn't really see the ball
on a deep ball in the end zone. I'm not sure that one was on Daniel Jones. There was the one they pointed out and the one that, yeah, it seemed like he just didn't really see the ball on a deep ball in the end zone.
I'm not sure that one was on Daniel Jones.
The one they pointed out and the one that was in the end zone
where he just didn't look either.
Yeah, so that was weird.
But he's got two games this year with more than 10 PPR fantasy points.
That is not good.
Both those games were huge games.
But he's 87% rostered.
Why are we hanging on to Darius Slayton?
Should we be?
And then Evan Ingram.
He five catches, 61 yards on 10 targets. That's 19 targets in his last two games. percent roster why are we hanging on to darius sladen should we be and then evan ingram he five
catches 61 yards on 10 targets that's 19 targets in his last two games uh should we be hanging on
to both of these guys they have washington philadelphia and then a buy in their next three
games ingram is clearly still better in ppr than non-ppr because he doesn't score and they should
have reviewed the one play last night because it looked like he scored the end zone um so you know look they uh you know
i asked uh pete priscoe this on uh fantasy football today on hq uh you know about ingram and and what
his role should be and you know pete said pete likes to use this phrase he's one of his many
phrases that he's one of the ultimate tease guys you know that the town is so awesome and you get
you fall in love with it, but is he going to,
you're going to look back on his career and say,
he just teased us with that talent.
So I hope that's not the case for Evan Ingram. You know,
we could still find out because there was some talk.
Remember the trade deadline today, you know,
and he was a guy that they were, you know, maybe,
or there's been rumors about them maybe moving him. So keep that in mind.
But I still think Evan Ingram is in that 14,
16 team league range,
as opposed to a 10 to 12 team range.
The giants could have benched him after what happened last week,
the ball bouncing off his hands that would have won them the game.
And instead they threw him to him 10 times.
So they're committed to Evan Ingram.
I think,
I don't think they're going to trade him.
I think he's going to be a big part of their offense,
and I do think he's worth considering as a starter
in a 12-team PPR league.
Maybe even in a non-PPR league.
Non-PPR, I think there are better options
of the touchdown or bust guys
just based on what they give you.
Yeah, but those are guys
you'd have to flip around each week.
I don't know.
I'd start Logan Thomas over Evan Ingram at this point.
Would you drop him, though?
Would you drop Evan Ingram for Logan Thomas?
If that's the only move I can make, yes.
And how about for Jordan Reed?
If you tell me Reed is playing, then I would drop Evan Ingram for Reed.
All right, Dave, give me 30 seconds or less on Darius Slayton.
He's a tease, but part of it is because his quarterback is a tease.
And if,
if the offensive line were better protecting the quarterback,
I think he'd make better throws.
I think Jones still has potential,
but he's probably jittery behind that offensive line.
So it's wrong place at the wrong time for Slayton.
He's a,
at best a number three receiver,
preferably in non PPR leagues.
I'd rather have Sterling Shepard. Yeah. I feel like I receiver, preferably in non-PPR leagues.
I'd rather have Sterling Shepard.
Yeah, I feel like I like Slayton this week.
I do too.
At Washington.
Then it's Philadelphia.
It's probably not going to be good.
He'll probably get Darius Slay and then a bye.
Giant's schedule is not bad after the bye, but they're such a bad offense.
Okay, to the rest of the waiver wire.
We've covered most of it.
I had trouble with the drop-o-meter this week.
Drop A.J. Green, 0-10?
Six.
Three.
How about...
You know what?
That's going to be format dependent.
I would say three in PPR
and like seven in non-PPR.
How about Baker Mayfield, who after the buy has Houston, Philadelphia,
Jacksonville, Tennessee, and then week 16,
week 15 and 16 are the giants and the jets.
10.
Yeah.
I'm not holding Baker in his buy week.
Mike is sicky.
You know?
Yeah.
It's he's not a guy that you need to hold on to
but it's like
it's so unfair to judge the Dolphins after that game
what do you do with Nelson Aguilar
and Rashard Higgins
Higgins is a drop
Aguilar I think is still a hole
if you can
what about Beasley
I would like to see what Aguilar looks like in a non-win game
which is going to be this week.
We've seen it.
He looks amazing,
but I fear that fantasy managers are going to need that roster spot
for something else.
Sure, if you need to drop him, you can drop him,
but I don't think it's a must.
It's easier to get away from Higgins.
Cole Beasley?
Zero.
Zero in PPR, five in non-PPR.
Yeah.
I don't think Jamie's enthused about John Brown,
but I kind of am.
Oh, I'd love to see John Brown play well,
but we've seen Cole Beasley play well
and John Brown's played well.
Yeah, yeah.
And we just saw the run game get going finally for Buffalo.
Like they got Seattle this week.
So we're excited about the passing game.
So if you guys had to choose...
You're going to regret dropping Cole Beasley this week if you do.
But who are you going to rank higher, Beasley or Brown?
Beasley.
I think you can see Brown 100% helpful.
Okay.
All right, so to the quarterbacks then,
this is going to be just reiterating a lot of what we already discussed here.
The three that you're hoping are available,
shallower leagues, would be Stafford, Carr, and Cam.
I believe Jamie goes Cam, Carr, Stafford, and Dave goes Stafford, Carr, and Cam. I believe Jamie goes Cam, Carr,
Stafford, and Dave goes
Stafford, Cam, Carr, right?
Yep. And then on waivers,
Drew Locke, Nick Foles, Kirk Cousins.
They have great matchups
and opportunities
and hopefully you don't have to start them.
That's the way Jamie
ranks them. Locke, Foles, Cousins. Dave,
any major objections there
I believe that's how I've got it too
Locke for sure is at the top
Nick Mullins
it's an interesting matchup for Mullins
because the Packers they are
27th in yards per attempt allowed
nobody really thinks
they have a good pass defense
but they do limit fantasy points
probably because teams run all over them.
So 12th against quarterbacks in fantasy points.
And then Tua is always a decent option.
Got some long-term upside.
I don't think anybody's comfortable starting him right now,
but Tua exists.
And Jake Luton against Houston.
I'll just throw out a few.
I really, really hope the Cardinals
pull ahead early
and they force Tua to have to
make plays and throw. So we see what he can be.
Phillip Rivers, any interest? Two big games
in a row? Not against Baltimore.
Daniel Jones
against Washington?
No.
I prefer not to.
Yeah, what did he have first time against
them? 11 fantasy points.
Oh my God.
I thought I had him at 15.
Maybe 15.
74 rushing yards and he scored 15 points.
That was without Shepard.
It was. He only threw 19 passes.
I would take him ahead of Tua or Mullins.
Yeah, if you're starting a guy this week,
you'd start Daniel Jones over Tua.
I would rather have Locke than Daniel Jones this week.
I'd rather have Mullins than Daniel Jones this week.
Running backs.
I don't know how much more we need to say about running backs.
How do you feel about Justin Jackson right now,
if he were available
just this week and long term?
I like him a lot.
I think that he's the best running back
for the Chargers.
And I think Troy Mayne Pope
is probably the second best running back
for the Chargers.
I would expect Jackson to have that lead role
and Pope potentially
getting that 8-12 touch role
that we talk about
that the second running back gets.
I think Kelly's had it.
I don't think he's getting the job done anymore.
And it's frustrating because he was so good early on in the season.
But Pope looked great and Jackson looked really good.
The problem with both those guys is Kelly is still going to get some touches,
whatever number that may be.
So that's going to limit the ceiling for them.
And it seems as if they're going to use Jackson mostly on passing downs,
which is good.
But I don't think any of them are must start guys. Jackson has the highest ceiling,
but you know, it's just, you'd like to see him give Jackson the workload that they gave him in
that week five game against the saints when he had 20 touches. If that's the case, then he could
be a starter. Yeah. I like the matchup against the Raiders. I think that I do too. I think he
can, he can be, yeah. I mean, that's the safest way to play it. Yeah.
Well, like I mentioned, the Raiders go up the second most
receiving yards to running backs. Jackson has
11 targets and 96 yards
in his last two games receiving.
Who do you think
is better rest of season, Zach Moss
or Justin Jackson?
Moss. Because Eckler's coming back.
Right. But with Eckler back,
you know, there's always a two-back system. I would start Jackson over Moss for this week,
certainly in PPR, and it's closer in non-PPR.
Okay.
DJ Dallas, Jordan Wilkins.
Yeah, when we ran through those top three earlier,
I'm not sure I mentioned Jordan Wilkins, but he's...
He got talked about.
I just...
Early in the show, yeah.
I can't overpay for him in Fab, and I can't make them my number one waiver
claim.
I've seen,
but I,
I totally agree.
Totally agree with everything you're saying,
but if they decide that they're going to bench Jonathan Taylor or Taylor
misses any game,
including this week against Baltimore,
the starting running back to the Colts is basically a number two running
back.
If he is the only guy there,
even with naive minds,
because Heinz is just a gadget guy on passing that. So I look at Jordan Wilkins as somebody that if he ever gets a
starting opportunity, the game that he gave you could be replicable almost every week with 15 to
20 carries 80 to 90 rushing yards chance to score because that's what the Colts running back should
give you. I hope you're right. That's what a Colts running back should give. But the Colts running back that we were hoping for to give that
hasn't really given us that this year.
And it's a career-best game for Jordan Wilkins.
And it's the Ravens coming to their place this week.
So I'm not as optimistic.
Okay.
Damian Harris, Wayne Gallman, Gus Edwards, J.D. McKissick,
Troy Mayne Pope, Cam Akers.
Don't forget about him.
47% rostered.
Stashy.
Henderson dealing with a thigh injury,
and they are on by this week.
Any interest in LaMichael Pirine or Naheem Hines?
No.
Okay, good.
I'd rather take the chance on Troy Mayne Pope.
Then let's go to the wide receivers.
So the check to see if available,
Christian Kirk,
Cole Beasley,
Mike Williams,
Emmanuel says a big list.
Emmanuel Sanders,
Nelson Aguilar,
Corey Davis,
Jerry Judy.
All of these guys might be available again.
That's Christian Kirk,
Cole Beasley,
Mike Williams,
Emmanuel Sanders,
Nelson Aguilar,
Corey Davis,
Jerry Judy.
And I guess I'll throw John Brown in there.
I think he's 69%.
After you mentioned it, John Brown's in there too.
John Brown would be...
The check to see if available list is always rostered in more than 65% of leagues.
That's the cutoff.
So it's a lot of names there.
And who would be some of your favorites?
Oh, I can't believe this guy's on waivers.
Pick him up.
DK Metcalf.
Cole Beasley in PPR would be my favorite on that list.
Kirk, for me, by far.
I mean, what he's been doing prior to their bye week
and what Kyler Murray's been doing,
it's just easy to say Christian Kirk has now put himself
in the conversation to be a top 20 wide receiver
on a weekly basis.
In non-PPR, I would completely agree with you.
But I'm worried about that catch volume.
One other thing
I'm a little worried about with Kirk, just a little,
is he has faced
19 yards
and a touchdown against Carolina, so that wasn't
great, but the three games we're excited
about have been the Jets, the Cowboys,
and the Seahawks.
Miami's probably
better than those teams defensively.
And I guess I shouldn't.
Maybe I should put Kirk ahead of Beasley in PPR.
He does have five catches in two of his past three games.
And the targets have been good except for the Dallas game.
And that was just a blowout win for Arizona.
So I'll amend what I said.
We can put Kirk on top of Beasley in PPR too.
And I highly, highly doubt the Cardinals are going to come out of their bye week
saying that Kirk is a problem in their offense.
He's part of the reason why they were able to get downfield more.
And he's going to have some staying power rest of the season.
So taking it back, Adam.
I'm taking it back.
Okay.
Who would you rather have?
Mike Williams or Emmanuel Sanders or Nelson Aguilar?
Sanders if Michael Thomas is out again,
but that's the risk that you're running.
But Mike Williams, I mean, look,
he had a great game from Justin Herbert this past week.
He had, I think, eight targets in that game,
so that's something that's encouraging.
The week before, he was nonexistent,
so you just kind of know what Mike Williams is.
No floor, no ceiling.
You know, the upside play there is always good.
The thing about Mike Williams is for how well Justin Herbert has played.
It's just weird that Williams hasn't been better.
You know, he's only had one good game.
This was his first good game this year in which Keenan Allen did not get hurt.
So that Justin Herbert played.
He also was good week one with Tyra Taylor.
But it's just like...
4-69 is good.
It's worth looking.
I mean, it's, you know, it's way over water.
We were interested in that game, yeah.
Yeah, right.
All I'm saying is like...
We were interested in that game.
Justin Herbert throws the ball deep really well, it seems.
It just feels like Williams should be better.
You know, hopefully there's some type of breakout coming here.
Well, I mean, he's battled some injuries too.
You know, factor that into his game logs. But I think you just look at it that some type of breakout coming here. Well, I mean, he's battled some injuries too, you know,
factor that into his, you know, game logs.
But I think you just look at it that they like Jalen Guyton
and he's, you know, good deep threat.
They still have, you know, Hunter Henry, who's, you know,
making some plays, even though it hasn't been great for fantasy.
He's in love with Keenan Allen, which we love, you know,
so that's great.
But yeah, you would expect a few more big plays coming.
So sure.
I mean, I don't have a problem if somebody dropped Mike Williams,
which I get prior to last week, and he's sitting there,
and I need a fourth receiver to stash that.
I'll pick him up.
Give me the names one more time, Adam.
Yeah, I kind of want to move on just because there are really roster
in a lot of leagues.
But Kirk, Beasley, Mike Williams, Emmanuel Sanders.
I was just saying the last three.
It's Sanders, Williams, and Aguilar, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I think probably just a guy to have on my bench,
I'd rather have Williams at the top
just for the boom-bust potential
than Sanders, than Aguilar.
And Corey Davis, you know we like him.
And I think Jerry Judy,
I feel like there's a comparison
to Brandon Ayuk last week, right?
If Debo Samuel was out,
if Tim Patrick is out,
it's 10 targets last week for Jerry Judy.
Now he's facing the Falcons.
Ayuk is facing the Seahawks.
Not quite as good for Judy, but you see the potential there.
If he gets close to 10 targets against the Falcons,
he's probably going to have a big game.
Priorities, other than that, are Marvin Jones and Sterling Shepard
and Alan Lazard, Mikko Hardman.
Dave mentioned Mikko Hardman.
I think you had him third on your priority list for this week.
Carolina, they should be getting a starting cornerback back.
Rasul Douglas coming off the COVID list.
They've been really good against wide receivers.
This is the Chiefs we're talking about.
But what do you think about Hardman this week?
He's a flex play that you're hoping.
Probably more of a bi-week replacement than a flex play.
You got to love the targets last week.
That was amazing.
I don't think you can count on that every week,
just based on what Hardman did.
I think if you look for four targets from Hardman,
knowing that half of them will probably be deep shots,
you'll be okay.
But a lot of the receivers that we've already talked about way ahead of
Hardman.
The problem for Hardman is twofold.
One,
Dave mentioned that the targets aren't always consistent for him.
So last week getting nine was great.
The other part of it is Sammy Watkins could
return at any moment.
The upside for Hardman is a starting
wide receiver on a week-to-week basis. The downside is
he doesn't play. And Sammy Watkins
should probably be somewhere
on your radar.
Who's a better player to stash? Alan Lazard or
Sammy Watkins? Lazard.
Okay. How about
Jacoby Myers? Maybe you get 10 or more PPR fantasy points from him at the jets.
Jalen,
Jalen Rager,
more long-term.
They're on a buy this week.
Darnell Mooney.
He's got five or more targets in five straight games.
Yeah.
Six straight games.
But he finally put it together this past week.
Yeah.
Like he's had those targets and he didn't do a ton with them.
Now he finally has.
I don't know if he can keep it up.
Kendrick Bourne, LaVisca Chenault, Hunter Renfro, Braxton Berrios,
Deshaun Hamilton had a big game against the Chargers,
gets Atlanta this week, Zach Paschal.
First game without Tim Patrick.
Right.
Why'd you put Chenault on your list?
Well, the hope that Luton comes in
and the rookie-to-rookie connection is there.
I don't want to give up on LaVisca Chanel completely yet.
Would you guys consider dropping DJ Chark or not yet?
Not yet. Let's see what happens.
I think Luton's going to be good for Chark.
If you were going to gamble on a second Detroit wide receiver against the Vikings, would it be Hall or Amendola?
Hall.
And the targets showed you last week that they like Hall quite a bit.
Cool. Tight ends.
You got Eric Ebron, Logan Thomas, Jordan Reed, Austin Hooper,
Dalton Schultz, and Trey Burton at the bottom of the list
against Baltimore.
But I think we've talked a lot about them.
So Ebron, Logan Thomas, who's had four targets in four straight games
or three straight games, I think.
But he caught a touchdown against the Giants.
Giants are kind of struggling against tight ends.
It may not show up in the numbers, but the last three weeks,
Logan Thomas, 42 yards and a touchdown.
Richard Rodgers, 85 yards.
Gronkowski caught all four of his targets and scored.
And then there's Jordan Reed.
Like I mentioned earlier, weeks two and three, he was pretty involved.
He had 14 targets in those two games
and one of them he got hurt in.
So Jordan Reed, 4% rostered.
Austin Hooper, long-term.
Dalton Schultz, if you need someone,
although it's a really tough matchup
this week against Pittsburgh
and then he has a bye.
Trey Burton.
Jamie, what are your thoughts on him?
Well, I mean, it was nice
that they gave him the opportunity
to run one in on the Indy special
that they tried to run.
But that was frustrating.
You know, the first game with both Mo Ali Cox, Trey Burton, and Jack Doyle all healthy that his targets weren't there.
So that's why he is where he is.
Who is a better bye week stash, Dallas Goddard or Austin Hooper?
Goddard should be the number one tight end available to pick up if he's out there.
Yeah.
Okay. Goddard should be the number one tight end available to pick up if he's out there. Okay, and if you are in a deep league,
Ross Dwelly,
if Jordan Reed doesn't play, Ross Dwelly's got
an opportunity. But you can wait on Dwelly.
You can probably wait until Friday to
add him. I don't know because they play
Thursday.
You can't wait until then. So yeah, Wednesday would
have to be the time. My bad.
Again, if you're the George Kittle
manager and you're stuck and you have two roster spots, pick up have to be the time. My bad. Again, if you're the George Kittle manager
and you're stuck and you have two roster spots,
pick up Dwelly and Reed.
See what happens Thursday.
Drop one before the game
and then pick up something else.
You could cut your kicker and pick them both up
and then whichever one plays,
you drop the other for a kicker.
Diabolical, Dave. Diabolical.
Football team, Cardinals, Packers.
Dave is actually short for diabolical. Football team, Cardinals, Packers. Dave is actually short for diabolical.
Football team, Cardinals, Packers, and Giants would be fourth.
Maybe I'm the only one who likes Houston this week, but...
It's not bad.
They'll be my fan duel, DST.
The thing about Luton is he, last year, if I saw the stats correctly,
only three interceptions at Oregon State
and only 11 interceptions in his three-year career.
That's good to know.
Kymie Fairbairn, Zane Gonzalez, Nick Folk, you're welcome.
Just please don't put in Mike Lennon.
Sure, why not?
Thanks for listening, everybody.
No Twitch tonight.
Forgot to mention that.
No Twitch tonight because of election night.
But we will talk to you tomorrow on the podcast.
See ya.