Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire! Jalen McMillan, Jauan Jennings, Tua Tagovailoa and Many, Many More (10/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 22, 2024

I'm sure you're dealing with plenty of injuries on your Fantasy teams, particularly at wide receiver. We'll tell you the top priorities (4:00) for Week 8 and beyond with Jalen McMillan, Jauan Jennings, Cade Otton and Hunter Henry among the appealing options. How much FAB are we spending (8:40)? And we spend a lot of time on the WRs (13:00) discussing if there are any potential must-start guys. Is Demario Douglas underrated? Is Tyler Lockett the best bet in the short term? What about the Packers WRs? ... We discuss the Bucs leaving their starters late in last night's game (29:50), give you news and notes (32:00) and the top three players at each position: QB (34:30), RB (35:15), WR (36:30), TE (36:45), DST (40:55) and Kicker. We discuss Russell Wilson, Jaylen Warren, Ja'Tavion Sanders and more ... Options in shallow leagues (44:35) and deep leagues (47:30), a recap of the two Monday night games (51:00), the Dropometer (59:10) and a longer look at the waiver wire (1:02:00) ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Can you believe this? I had no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays at his feet. He's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races, and he stays on his feet. He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. We welcome you to the Week 8 Waver Wire episode of Fantasy Football Today, presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas.

Oof, I hate these intros. You know, everybody's thinking about Chris Godwin right now. And it's just like, oh, what a, I was so terrible. And it's such a deflating way to end a fun week of fantasy football. At the same time, we did have the top two quarterbacks in fantasy football going at it and having huge games. And then we had an exciting finish in the Arizona Chargers game. So we're going to be optimistic.

We're going to give you some help. We hope for a speedy recovery for Brandon Ayuk and Chris Goblin and everybody else who's injured. But we're going to tell you who to pick up and how to win your league, even if you had a little bit of a setback. I'm Adam Azer with Dave Richard and Jamie Eisenberg. And yeah, I don't think it's going to be a big running back week, Jamie, but in terms of wide receivers and tight ends, it looks pretty good.

How would you rate this week's waiver wire? It's six and a half. You know, there's some interesting receivers, as you mentioned, and some situations we have to monitor. Like, for example, if DK Metcalf plays, Tyler Lockett is not as needed. But if DK Metcalf is out, Tyler Lockett could be huge. Uh, you know, the situations in Tampa Bay and San Francisco, but are there guys that you're looking at and saying must start options, you know, especially knowing that we

don't know the extent of Evans hamstring injury, although you can assume it's probably going to be multiple weeks. And we don't know when Debo Samuel is going to be back dealing with the fluid in his lungs and the pneumonia that he's dealing with. So he may have some options there that could be short term and long term. Tight end, K. Dotton looked fantastic, certainly with the injuries that they're dealing with. He's going to be a huge priority. Hunter Henry has been really good with Drake May. So yes, wide receiver and tight end is very good. Running back, not so much. And there's a must-start quarterback that's available in 49% of leagues as well. Oh, who could this be?

Who is it? Who is it? Tua. Oh, Tua, right, right, yeah. Yeah, he's probably coming back this week. Very exciting stuff. You know, if you play in a shallow league, tight end is going to be overwhelming for you because there are so many appealing options,

probably not like David Njoku, but maybe Jake Ferguson and Kate Otten, of course. I'm sorry. I'll get to the names there. There are many. Yeah. So TJ Hawkinson. TJ Hawkinson has great matchups coming up. His next two opponents are 31st and 30th against tight ends.

Tucker Kraft. Heavy plays. Yeah, heavy plays, of course. But he's got to be playing pretty soon. Pat Friermuth. You know, Pat Friermuth, the Steelers actually had 26 pass attempts in the first three quarters. So they ended up with 29 pass attempts.

But you've got to figure they're not going to be blowing out teams every week, maybe this week, against the Giants. But, yeah, I thought kind of encouraging just for Friermuth that they were throwing the ball more than usual, at least in the first three quarters. And two very nice design plays to Darnell Washington, too. I think three, if I recall, but at least two. Hey, Dave, what's up?

Yo. Sorry for making you wait. How you doing? I don't care. I've got 100 things going on over here. All right. Well, let me give you 101. Why don't you start with your top three priorities on the waiver wire this week? First of all, I think that Jamie's 6.5 on the waiver

scale is generous. I don't think it's that good at all. And I'm scared that this is going to be the future of fantasy waiver wires this season, because every week the great players are getting hurt. Some of them are coming back and they're being replaced by average Joes. And it makes me very nervous to think about the teams that don't have like the most impeccable depth that you could possibly have surviving what we've been witnessing this season. So sorry for that cheery note. I think Tua should be a priority if you need a quarterback. I think Hunter Henry should be a priority almost no matter what you need. Kate Otten should probably be up there.

And I think Jawan Jennings should be up there. He's available in a little more than half of CBS leagues. Okay, so which tight end, if you had to pick one, Otten or Henry, who would you go with? I'm thinking Henry will still have the volume rest of the season compared to Otten, but they're both going to be very popular. Okay, so Tua Tungabailoa,

Hunter Henry slash Kate Otten, and Juwan Jennings. Jamie, how about you? Who are your three priorities? Just to be different, I agree with Dave. I would actually take Otten over Henry. To me, it's not close, but those three are up there, and then Jennings and McMillan. agree with Dave. I would actually take out and over Henry. To me, it's not close, but those three are up there, and then Jennings

and McMillan. Right, okay. You've got the Tampa Bay wide receivers and the San Francisco wide receivers. And if you maybe just... Would you put Tyler Lockett ahead of... Well, we don't even know that Jawan Jennings is playing this week, so that's... That's part of the problem. That is true, but knowing

that Brandon Ayuk is not coming back, it's a long-term thing too. How good do you think Tua is? You know, he gives you nothing rushing. Last year he was, I don't even think he was a top 12 quarterback per game. He did leave the NFL in passing yards. I know, but he still, like even with that, you know, is he a top 12 quarterback rest of season for you? Yes.

I don't know if he's quite there yet, but we all know what the upside can be. That's what's interesting. He did lead the NFL in passing last year, and he was QB 15 per game in six-point-per-passing touchdown leagues, QB 17 per game. But how far was he from 12? I don't know. I can find that out.

But still, he wasn't... I think there is more upside, right? He only threw 29 touchdowns. He wasn't dominant, no. But he had 74 rushing yards, no rushing touchdowns. That does hold him back a little bit. So we're looking at right now, the number two quarterback in fantasy

just lost his top two receivers for God knows how long. Brock Purdy just lost a big piece of his passing attack. We know that Anthony Richardson is probably not going to recover to a point where you feel comfortable starting him across the board. Kyler Murray has been up and down the majority of the season. Like you're looking at the quarterback landscape. I'm sure there's a few other guys I'm missing here that, you know, you tell me Tua's stepping back in with hopefully healthy.

You know, it's not a shoulder. It's not a knee. It's, you know, something he just has to be careful of and cautious of, which is tough for him at this point. You got to assume with those receivers and they're desperate. I think we're going to see a huge rest of season for him. And it helps that the schedule is pretty favorable. Like, for example, if he comes back this weekend,

we've got to put the F on two as well. It's Arizona at home. I kind of feel like Arizona's defense played better than they really are against the Chargers. And then it's Buffalo. It's the Rams. It's the Raiders. It's the Patriots. And then here's the Heath advisory. Watch out for those cold weather games like at Green Bay week 13 at Cleveland week 17. There's some toughies in between those games. So the

fantasy playoff schedule might not be so great for Tua, but he can probably help you get there provided he stays on the field, which we're hoping for. Yeah. All right. How much fab are we spending this week?

I mean, we're hoping for. Yeah. All right. Uh, how much fab are we spending this week? I mean, this is, we're at the point this season, week eight, where it's almost dependent on your record, you know? So if you're just desperate and you just lost Godwin, you just lost IU,

you just lost Samuel, you just lost Metcalf, you know, you just need to find somebody to get you through a win. You know, you're probably going to overpay the differences. Like, you know, we, we just mentioned, there's to get you through a win. You know, you're probably going to overpay. The difference is like, you know, we just mentioned,

there's no guarantee Jennings is playing this week. There's no guarantee that Jalen McMillan, despite eight plus targets, potentially that he could be looking at is going to be successful. I think if you need a tight end, you know, Otten and Henry are worth spending for. If you need a quarterback, Tua's worth spending for. There's no running back that's walking in as a starter. And let's keep in mind,

you know, yes, we're in the bi-week situations. So I buy week weeks of, you know, hell, this is not one of those weeks though. This is the, this is the reprieve,

you know, no, no teams on a buy this week. So I think it just comes down to really what you need and what your record is. But if you are in a good spot, like it's definitely worth speculating on Jennings. It's definitely worth speculating on McMillan because there's long-term appeal for those guys.

And even in deeper leagues like Ricky Pearsall and Sterling Shepard, who I didn't give you on the list, Adam. I put him in there. He's worth adding to just because of what their roles could be on their respective teams. Pearsall is probably going to take some time. But in Shepard's case, he may step into Godwin's role, and that could be very their respective teams. You know, Pearsall is probably going to take some time, but in, in Shepard's case, you know, he may step into Godwin's role and that could be very, you know, exciting for him. Okay. By the way, no bye weeks this week, no teams on by this week.

And then next week, only two teams, Pittsburgh and San Francisco. And then it gets real. If I may, it does get real, especially with weeks 12 and 14, six teams on by, and there are a lot of really good fantasy players that are going to be on by in week 14. And if you're, you're fighting for something in week 14, no one has the number one seed locked to almost nobody has the number one seed locked up going into week 14. This is a good week to kind of look at your roster and think about what you need for

weeks 12 and 14. If anything, if you don't, that's cool, but you've got to start making some preparations and it could mean a trade, but weeks 12 and 14 are going to be absolute killers for fantasy managers that just are not prepared for those weeks. So don't be those managers, please. Okay. I want to ask you guys, are there any must start wide receivers or any wide receivers that you think could become must start guys that we can pick up on the waiver wire this week? And I'm going to ask you that in just a little bit, but right now, if you have not signed up yet for the bet MGM app, you got to do it. Let's use that bonus code FANTASY, and you're going to get up to a $1,500 first bet offer. That's insane on your first wager with BetMGM. Here's how it works.

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We've got some opportunities here with obviously San Francisco situation. We've got some opportunities. Are there any guys on the waiver wire? And there's a name we haven't even said yet. I'll see if you guys say it. If not, I will jump in on it. That could become a must start wide receiver in a few weeks in the range that we're

talking about huh i mean i i think lockett for this week if there's no meccaf and it shoot out with buffalo and then i you know you look at demario douglas and jaylen tolbert they're still definitely there that could be starters d Douglas, unfortunately had, I guess, an illness that he was dealing with in London and Tolbert, you know, prior to his last game had scored 13 plus PPR points in three or four going into their buy. Yeah.

Douglas was the name I was going to bring up. Don't forget about him just because he had, you know, the illness, Dave, anything to add. So I think those are the three best names. And I think of those names

Douglas and Tolbert might have the best long-term upside so not only could they help you in week eight but potentially become number three receivers flexes what have you and maybe in the case of Douglas and full PPR if he can really go back to being a nine target per game guy he could be a starter every week in and every week out. I'm going to give you some other names that I think. I would put him in that category too. You know, just with the, the chance of, of what he could be in this offense. Say that again.

I would put McMillan in the category of long-term upside to like, just chance of what he could be in this office. Right. And so like, I'm going to give you one, two, three, four, six more names. And we can debate just if they've got anywhere near the same type of upside as these three i'm gonna say that they don't quite but maybe don tavian wicks is one of them jaylen mcmillan jamie just said him i think you gotta throw sterling shepherd in there because if we're living in a world where sterling shepherd is not going to become a must

start guy if the bucks don't make a trade and Mike Evans is done for the year, I think Shepard could end up being their next slot receiver. Do you think Evans is done for the year with the Samson injury? What happened? Do you think Evans is done for the year with the Samson injury? I said if. But why would he? I mean, I guess it could be like a tear or something.

I mean, it could be like what happened to Jefferson last year. Look, I want him back next week. I need him back next week. But who knows? We'll find out. If Cedric Tillman is going to keep getting targets and Deshaun Watson's out for the year, maybe there's some hope for Cedric Tillman. He's out there in 98% of leagues. And then Jawan Jennings definitely makes the cut. Ricky Pearsall, we'll see. I didn't like the film on his first game. Same. you know, I was going to text you.

Maybe he, listen, we've seen it a hundred times where a player's playing his first game. He looks like do do. And then he, you know, two weeks later, he looks like a world leader.

Yeah, right. Exactly. We got to be patient with him. Got to be patient. Um, okay. Is that it?

I've, and just the other point I'll make on Pierce saw is when they drafted him, I thought they did it because they saw similarities in his game to Iuke's game. And now here is Iuke done for the year. And Pearsall is going to get that opportunity to play a lot. Hopefully flash that speed that he has. Okay. Yeah.

Oh, just shallower leagues. Jacoby Myers is is another guy i know he's oh and romeo dobbs he's only 67 percent rostered like you you know the upside of anybody in this offense right now and so there's going to be weeks like we saw last week with christian watson where somebody's left out there's going to be weeks where you know two or three guys eat and you know dobbs to me is is the most steady of the group. He's going to have probably the most. He plays the most. Runs the most routes.

He's on the field the most of all the receivers. Okay. So, you know, I'm going to audible here. I'm going to audible. Usually we go position by position. I think we should just – Ball ball. Yeah. Let's just focus on the wide receivers here.

Let's just talk more about these guys. It's not only the injuries. I mean, look, Jamison Williams just got suspended for two games like this was this was rough it was it's funny i led the column with is like we felt like we got good news yesterday we got to a back cooper cups back and then it just all of a sudden everything just it was raining poop yeah just everything iuk out for the season. Debo hospitalized. You know, who knows when he's coming back. Jamison suspended.

The Monday night game and everything that happened there. My gosh, it was rough. Deshaun Watson, you know, for what that's worth. Bruce and Vince have a name for that. It's the Drizzlin' something. I don't know if I can say what it is. You know, and people may not know this, but there were actually two Monday night games last night.

It was like completely lost in the fold. One was boring as hell. Yeah, it was. A game that came down to the wire, though. It came down to a last-second field goal attempt. But it's almost like there were so many storylines from the Baltimore-Tampa Bay game. And just like, who the heck cares about it?

Although, Arizona's run defense, right? They may not be that bad. Disappoint right so so we look at the wide receivers here and some guys that you have in the shallower leagues like Jackson Smith and Jigba you don't want to drop him yet right let's see what happens no um oh my gosh no Jerry Judy was was really bad and and by the way uh we're hoping Jameis Winston's going to be the quarterback. It seems like they wanted DTR to be the guy, and maybe that will be the case down the line. I would

guess they added a quarterback today. Bailey Zappi. Which would probably indicate that DTR's not good to go. Okay, and then you've got Christian Watson, but he's probably is Christian Watson behind Romeo Dobbs at this point yes but again it's i think this is one of those things where you just start jayden reed every week and hope that he's clearly the the best guy there which

is what he's proven to be so far this season and then just depending on what you need like i would hate to roster two of those guys because you're probably going to pick the wrong one on the week week to week basis now you go back two games ago against Arizona, what did we see? We saw Watson score. We saw Dobbs score twice. So you got production out of both those guys. Wicks, you find the end zone this week. He's second on the team of targets.

And then Tucker Kraft. So it's just going to be a little bit of a gamble. That's the nature of their offense and the beauty of their offense, which is why Jordan Love is having a good season. But you're probably just going to guess wrong. But yes, for me, Dobbs would be second at this point. All right, so I'm going to give you a bunch of names that are rostered in 67% or fewer of leagues.

And Dobbs would be second. You meant Dobbs would be second to you amongst the Green Bay wide receivers. So Romeo Dobbs, Keenan Allen with a great— 67% or more. You said 67% or less. Yeah, they're rostered in 67% of... They're available in a third of CBS leagues. Or more.

Yeah, they're the highest... 67% or fewer leagues. That's the roster percentage. Starts with Dobbs and Keenan Allen. Washington has a... Sorry, they start with Washington this week. Chicago has a great wide receiver schedule coming up, including four games against Minnesota and Detroit,

who give up the most fantasy points to receivers. All right, so you got Keenan Allen. I'll throw Roma Dunze in there. Romeo Dobbs. San Francisco wide receivers. Tampa Bay wide receivers. Tyler Lockett. Demario Douglas. I mean, I want all these guys. I mean, in my shallowest 12-team league where I start two receivers, and I don't know. All right, let's think about that. I don't know how many two-receiver, one-flex leagues you guys play in,

but how many of these guys am I going after in that format? Douglas, Jennings, McMillan, and if I need someone for one week, Lockett. Maybe multiple weeks.

Could be two weeks for Lockett. Okay, so that would be... Based on the previous week-to-week reports, DK Metcalf could be back tomorrow. Yeah, but he'll be listed as doubtful that he'll play. All right, that's kind of how I see it. I guess if I were in my shallowest leagues

where I'd have to start three receivers every week, what did I say? I said Douglas, Jawan Jennings, Tyler Lockett. Yeah, I might put Lockett at the top of that list just for this week. And McMillan too, I think. I want to see what happens there. But how about you guys?

Who are the guys that in a two-receiver league you're even feeling like you need to pick up? I think it just depends on your situation. You know, short term, Lockett is going to be the most likely one to help you. But again, what happens if Metcalf plays this week? Like you're not going to start Lockett with any confidence. But he's been over 60 yards in like all but two games. I'm not saying you won't start him. I'm just saying you won't start him with any confidence. If the options are Douglas taking on the Jets, Tolbert taking on the 49ers, which I don't think Brandon Cooks can return.

I think he's still another week. He can't. Week 10. Lockett, if there is DK Metcalf. There's a lot of things at play here. You tell me Jennings returns and both guys are out for San Francisco, I'm starting Jennings over all these guys. By the way's a lot of things that play here. Like, you tell me Jennings returns and both guys are out for San Francisco,

I'm starting Jennings over all these guys. And by the way, Josh Kittle has an injury, too. He does. He's got a foot injury. But, okay, I'm sorry. So forget about week eight, then.

Like, long term, who are the guys that you think should be picked up? Even in a two-receiver, only Jennings? Oh, of all of them? Yeah, I think he's at the top of the list, Adam. Two-receiver flexes.

There's no way I'm picking up Sterling Shepard in that format. No, of course not. But McMillan, I mean, is definitely worth adding. The upside is huge. Yeah. Yeah. But you're not starting Jalen McMillan. Again, if we get to week eight and there's no Evans,

which is what it seems like, and there's definitely no Godwin, how are we not considering him a starter if you're playing three receivers? I'm happy to just see what happens. No, no, no. In the format that Adam said, start two receivers and a flex. He's in the conversation as the flex. And for me, he's in the conversation of, let's just see what happens here.

Obviously, that's the preferred situation. Yeah, but even Sterling, in a shallower league, I'm not going for... Even for Ricky Pearsall, I don't think necessarily I'm going to be too excited. Shepard and Pearsall are not going to be added in any 10-team leagues unless it's just huge, deep rosters.

Right. McMillan is a borderline probably add in 10 team leagues because rosters are so, you know, stacked, but you, you just lost. I mean,

think about this. We we've been dealing with injuries at receiver all season long, and now you just lost two guys for whatever they're worth. One has been a must-start guy and proven it in Godwin. One's been a guy that's been struggling in IU, but they've been must-start guys. I mean, they've been started in 80% of leagues or more for the majority of the time that they've been active. Now Evans is going to potentially miss some time. Jamison Williams, who's been started in about 70% of leagues, is out for two games.

And then we get to week nine and beyond, and you're talking about bye weeks. So it's going to be a lot of starting these guys. Would you consider Cedric Tillman in that format in a two-receiver flex league? He's somebody I'd rather take a wait-and-see approach. It was great, and we'll see how things look moving forward,

but I think when Elijah Moore had six-plus targets and Judy had six-plus targets, Najoka's going to get his opportunities. It's hard to say like, who's the best of that group moving forward. Yeah. All right.

So it seems like consensus is that if we throw Dobbs, the bears receivers, the San Francisco receivers, the Tampa Bay receivers, and to Mario Douglas in there, who's number one. Jennings. Jennings will be number one on my list.

For one week? No. Long term? Yeah, or like next month. For the next month? I think it still might be Demario Douglas for me. See, the thing with Jennings is like if, see, Debo's back and Kittle's back,

you're talking about six, seven targets a game. And, you know, he's only been great in one game when it was no Debo and no Kittle. And Ayuk was still, I think, shaking the rust off of the layoff. So there's the concern there with everybody else. And by the time that happens, it's McCaffrey's back. Yeah.

I also have to say that on paper, well, what's the answer then? Sorry, before I get into this rant, what's the answer? Who's number one? Long-term? Next month. Let's just say next month.

I might go Dobbs. I don't think I can go Dobbs. would either be jennings or douglas for me what do we think about i got to bring this up we brought this up last week douglas's schedule we were like well it's jacksonville and then it's jets titans bears and those are terrible matchups jets though are super beat up they're not not nearly what they used to be and the titans have been a little bit shaky against wide receivers the last two games, too. Josh Downs, Michael Pittman, Keon Coleman, Amari Cooper, and Khalil Shakir, for that matter, all doing well.

But on paper, you've got Douglas with the Jets who are fourth, the Titans who are sixth against receivers, the Bears who are seventh, the Rams who are 12th. I think the Dolphins are first. That's their next five games. Right. That's why Drake May isn't the top quarterback for me. That's why Tua's ahead of Drake May. I just don't know

if I believe it necessarily with the Jets in particular, just with the state of their defense. But all right. All right. Did we solve this? Did we answer this question? I think we did, right?

Pretty thorough there. I don't think there's a clear-cut guy. I mean, and that's the nature of the position with all the injuries, you know, look, we, we may find out like to Dave's point,

you know, Mike Evans, I don't know season ending, but it may be like what happened to Justin Jefferson last year where they don't rush him back because they're still considering themselves, you know, in the case of the bucks, not necessarily the case with the,

uh, the Vikings last year, you know, a playoff contender and wanting to make sure he's 100% right if they can steal a few wins here or there or McMillan steps up. You know, Tolbert may lose his value with the return of Brandon Cooks.

I don't think so, but he might. There's just a lot of different scenarios here at play. Like, it's hard to say, you know, next month. Douglas could be fantastic, but, you know, I think as Drake may evolve also, we may see some more downfield options for some of these guys you know where Polk becomes a factor or you know um KJ Osborne continues to get healthy and they lean on him a little bit you know so there's a lot of things that could happen here and we've rifled through like 10 different wide

receivers I don't and the fact that we don't have a consensus number one oh yeah this is the guy go get this guy it just tells me that like you can make that move for not without spending a lot of fab to get Jennings to get lock and even if they end up not playing and hopefully you don't spend a lot of fab to get them even if they end up not playing there's someone else that will be there that you could pick up it could be Cedric Tillman and I know it's gross to start a Browns receiver, but he wasn't bad. The numbers were not bad for him last week, and we know that the quarterbacking should be at least solid?

Question mark? I just wonder if DTR is healthy. I listened to Stefanski's entire press conference yesterday and he was he said the reason that they made him active, well it was because I was sitting waiting to do some work and they had to listen to the pre-roll while I was waiting for a taping

gotcha, gotcha the questions were, you know, why was he active instead of Jameis, you know, and he kept talking about short yardage package that they had in place for him as opposed to Jameis. If Jameis has a Jameis game, which we know could be great or could be awful, he may only start one game. That's true, but that isn't interesting. If it's a short yardage package thing, then that tells me that Jameis might actually be the favorite to start if both were healthy. I'm not disagreeing with you, but

I didn't know that. Clearly, Stefanski is not necessarily married to Jameis Winston that he has to stick with him if he has a 2-3 interception game, which we know could be a pick six or two. He's just that type of quarterback. That makes me a little more excited

about that offense now. Someone wants to know where now it's the combination of DTR was active for a special package of plays. Now he's got a finger injury. No guarantee he's even going to play. The zappy signing makes it sound like

they need another quarterback. They just lost the green light for Jameis Winston. Two touchdowns, two interceptions and 300 yards on deck, baby. I mean, the zappy thing is like, couldn't that just be Deshaun Watson being out for the season?

They need a third quarterback. Could be that, too. Someone asked about Rashad Bateman. Well, if they don't have both, they need something. Well, they need a third quarterback. Anyway, someone asked about Rashad Bateman. And look, Zay Flowers, obviously, he got hurt early, came back, did nothing.

Sometimes you run on adrenaline. If Zay Flowers is on the injury report, that's going to make Rashad Bateman, who still only has one game, I think, maybe zero with more than five targets. He doesn't get a lot of targets. But if Zay Flowers is hurt, we'll see. It looked like a pretty bad ankle injury.

I was surprised he came back. Then obviously Bateman's going to move up in the standings there, in the rankings. He should be up in this conversation anyway, but not toward the top. He's been a good bi-week receiver. Let's touch down our buckets. I want to take a quick hiatus from this

and bring up this Twitter poll. I thought it was very interesting how split it was. Do you think the Bucs starter should have been in the game when Chris Goblin got hurt, down 10, a little over a minute to play? 53% said yes, 47% said no. What do you guys think? At that point, it was 43 seconds left when he got hurt. No, I think it was a minute six, a minute four, maybe 43 seconds. Call it a minute six if you want to. I mean, it's such a miracle to win at that point. I would drag them in.

It just sucks that that's when he got hurt. The flip side of that is we've all been there. I hope he gets one more catch. I need three more points. We're begging for production in these situations, and then you see him get hurt. The stupid thing to me was after he got hurt, they didn't take a knee.

It's still a two possession game. Like, that's the thing. It's still- There's 43 seconds left, though. You just lost- I don't think there were 43. I think there was over a minute. It actually makes a big difference.

56 seconds left. We're not going Godwin. When they snapped the ball after Godwin was hurt, whatever it was, it was under a minute. Okay, but when they ran the play, okay, fair.

After he was hurt. Fair, okay. After he was hurt. It must have run the clock. All right, yeah. You're still having Baker. And he's scrambling. It's still a two-possession game.

I mean, it's still like, you're still in it. It's a fireable offense for an NFL coach to not try to win no matter what. But at the same time, if you just lost, arguably your two best offensive players and not name your quarterback. Like, what are you trying to accomplish at that point? Like, your whole team is deflated.

You just watched Chris Godwin get card off. He's second in the NFL and receiving yards after Evans just blew his hamstring out. Like what, what are you trying to do at that point? It might be fair at that point, but as far as Godwin being in the game, Herm said it best, you play to win the game.

No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not saying at that point he should have been out. Yeah. After he got hurt. Do you think they should just take knees? Just go home.

I think most teams, if not all, I think most teams would have done what the Bucs did. I think most teams would have just would have gone and kept playing. But obviously, people are very split on this. So I wanted to see what you guys thought. All right, let's do the news and notes real quick.

Jaden Daniels is week to week. He may not play this week against the Bears. Mariota was really good. I had to watch the tape, but from what I saw, he was really good. The Panthers were really good against the Panthers, and now come the Bears. Yeah, now come the Bears. Right. Aiden O'Connell's out four to six weeks

with a broken thumb, and the Raiders signed Desmond Ritter. Justin Herbert hurt his thumb, but he played through it. He played very well yesterday. Deshaun Watson is out for the year with the Achilles. Daniel Jones and Andy Dalton are going to start this week, even though they were replaced in their games. Tyler Huntley left, but we're hoping for two of this week.

And I think that's it at quarterback. Don't really have any running back news. Wide receiver news. Godwin out fractured ankle. Evans hamstring, Cooper Cup. Cooper Cup, it looks like he's going to play this week, but they're not sure what the snaps are going to be. It's a Thursday game against Minnesota.

Are you guys, you have done your early rankings. Is Cooper Cup in your top 24? Top 10. I believe he's top 24 for me. All right. Brandon Ayuk out for the season. Debo Samuel in the hospital with pneumonia. So we're hoping, look, they have a bye next week.

So we're hoping Debo plays this week, but he may not. And Christian McCaffrey, that's a news update. It feels like week 10 is going to be the week for McCaffrey, or at least feels like there's a solid chance for McCaffrey to come back after the bye. Do they make the playoffs at this point? I think they will, but if they lose this week, it won't be easy.

Jamison Williams, he's not officially suspended for two games, right? Yet? Jamison, or is he? I don't think it's official, but expect it to be suspended for two games. Yeah, I just don't know if it's going to start this week or not. That's two targets a game that they have to

replace. DK Metcalf. Hopefully it helps Laporta. That'd be the best thing that comes out of this. And Juju Smith-Schuster is not going to play this week. He has a hamstring injury. George Kittle is day-to-day with a foot injury. I don't think we can just pencil him in yet, but we can pencil him in.

He's penciled in. Yeah, we can't pen him in yet. And I'll leave it at that in terms of the injuries. CBS Sports Network, you know we have shows on CBS Sports Network. Please join us there. They're actually Tuesday. It's already Tuesday, but Tuesday and Wednesday this week are at noon Eastern. I think Friday is still at 1 p.m. Eastern,

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Jamie, who are the top three quarterbacks to get? The top three quarterbacks are Tua Tunga-Vailoa. Skip a few. Skip a few more. Then I'm going to put Russell Wilson ahead of Drake May, by Lowe. Skip a few. Skip a few more. Then I'm going to put Russell Wilson ahead of Drake May, just because the schedule is a little bit more favorable for him.

And I thought Russ looked good in his first game. So it depends on what you need, short-term versus long-term. Long-term, I'd rather have May, but short-term, I'd rather have Russ. Those are the top three. And if you are the Baker Mayfield manager, do you have to...

Do you have to pick up a quarterback? You should. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'm just throwing it out there. I mean, obviously, he played very well at the end of the game, but everything changed

when Mike Evans got hurt in that game, even with Godwin there. Yep. All right, so 2-0 Russell Wilson, Drake May. Dave, I'll give you the unenviable running back list here. Who are the top running backs? changed when Russell Wilson went under center. It's just crazy to me, but Warren's going to be first. As we sit here right now, I've got Goodson second, Tyler Goodson second, and Sean Tucker third, but it sounds like Jonathan Taylor's going to practice this week.

If he plays, you can say bye-bye to Tyler Goodson. That would move up Sean Tucker to second, and then Justice Hill would be third for me. Um, none of the stash running backs or the desperation running backs are in my top three, obviously. Okay.

This is, this is the worst waiver wire week for running backs. I think all year just it's getting, it's funny. Pittsburgh is number one. I would say so. It's funny. You say that.

Cause last week was great. And then Aaron Jones played. Yeah. And they all played and they all played. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Look, if it's a bad week for waiver wire running backs, it's a good thing. I mean, running backs didn't get hurt.

Wide receivers. You want to give me a top three, Jamie? Yeah, it's a Juwan Jennings. It's Jalen McMillan and Tyler Lockett. Okay. Juwan Jennings, Jalen McMillan, Tyler Lockett, and we've discussed them a lot. Okay, and tight end, Dave, top three tight ends.

For me, it's Hunter Henry, number one, K-Dot, and number two, Jatavion Sanders, number three. Hunter Henry, K-Dot, and Jatavion Sanders. And then what about if there is T. is TJ Hawkinson and Cole Komet? Tucker Kraft. Yeah. Obviously, you're going to put those guys ahead. Well, I don't know that it's so obvious.

Jadot would be first for me ahead of those guys. Ahead of Kraft? Not Ferguson. Over Kraft. Kraft has had, what, five targets or less? His touchdowns for him. Yeah, I would go. I mean, that's how it is for tight ends.

But not necessarily for us. I mean, I just got it is for tight ends. But not necessarily for us. I mean, I just got 10 targets in a game where they lost their two top receivers. Sure. And Hunter Henry's gotten a lot of targets, too, in the two games with Drake May. Well, one with Drake May and then the other one he scored. But I did a whole Twitter thing about this. If you've got a tight end that gets six targets in a game, he's got a 70% chance of getting you, I think it was 10 PPR points.

So the first thing you look at with the tight end is how likely is it that they will be able to get me at least six targets in a game. And in the case of Henry and Otten, I would say it's pretty likely. Yeah. Okay. So we have some questions in the chat from Isaac Hunter, Henry or TJ Hawkinson going forward.

I'll take, I'll take the tight end that is playing now. Yeah, I agree. But Hawkinson's either going to be out for the season or he's going to be back by next week, right? Like, he has got

to come back soon. But he could come back and they could still make him inactive. Correct. They could, yeah. Kemet versus Otten and Henry from Oregon.

He's third for me. Same. Tight end is so back. It does kind of feel like tight end is back. Would you draw? This sounds crazy, but if you just think about it from a target standpoint, would you drop Mark Andrews for Kate Otten?

Yes. Yeah. I know it sounds silly because we just saw Mark Andrews score twice, but how many games does he even have six targets? I think zero or one. Yeah, the Gainesville, Ohio is what I think. Given some of the running backs and receivers right now, I might be playing both, one at tight end, one at flex.

Two games with five targets for Mark Andrews. Tell my stinking commissioner to let us put a tight end at flex. I mean, what a ridiculous league. Come on now. What league is that? It's, remember Hoyman? Yeah, Justin Hoyman? The Hoyman League.

He's the commissioner. What about, speaking of leagues, what about you coming back to beat my juggernaut magazine team, which was impressive by you? Dude, I had four games that I lost by 0.8 points to Lamar Jackson. I went into that game with a 43-point

lead, and I lost in one of my, in the FFT Open. And then the Magazine League, me and you, yeah, you had Murray and Henry. I had Mayfield. That was wild. We had some wild finishes last night. I wasn't watching it, but I just saw that you won. And then I also saw that I ended Thomas'

undefeated season in the baked burger. Did you? Yeah. Nice. It's like the Thanos line from Avengers. What did it cost you? It cost me everything. I lost Godwin. Yeah. Wait, let me see if I

have this. Yeah, I put this tweet up. I can confidently say that I have never been 0-7 in a fantasy league ever, but someone that I work with is 0-7 in one of our leagues. Can you guess who it is? And people guessed right. I won't say who it is, but it's not Dan. Who do you think

it is? Is it Dan? Of course it's Dan. Oh, it's Dan 0-7? In the magazine league. Oh, he's going to say that he's not playing. He didn't know we were playing it out. I guarantee you. I don't think. I don't know. No, he did that. Hold on.

Has he been making lineup changes? I think so. Then he knows we were playing it out. Yeah, it's so funny. Go ahead, Thomas. What's up? Dan's been saying that, unfortunately, we drafted way too far in advance. I'm like, well, everybody in that league drafted that far in advance.

So that's really not an excuse. Yeah, I love the magazine league. All right, Jamie, give us the DSTs and kickers and we'll take a break and we'll talk about last night's games and challenges. It's actually a pretty good week for DSTs.

You have some really good matchups here. So you got the Chiefs against the Raiders. That would be number one. Chargers against the Saints, especially if Spencer Rattler still starts. Lions against the Titans.

We saw what Mason Rudolph looked like. Bears against Washington with Marcus Mariota. Texans against the the Titans. We saw what Mason Rudolph looked like. Bears against Washington with Marcus Mariota. Texans against the Colts. We know what Anthony Richardson's experience has been. So there's five right there that are available in 62% of leagues or fewer. Kickers?

Kickers would be Cameron Dicker, Will Reichert, Jake Bates, Will Lutz, and Brandon McManus. All right. So just to recap, top three priorities at quarterback are Tua Tungabailoa, Russell Wilson, and Drake May. That's for Jamie. For Dave at running back, it was Jalen Warren, Tyler Goodson, and Sean Tucker.

Let's move that to Warren, Tucker, and Justice Hill with the expectation that Jonathan Taylor will be back this week. And if you do need somebody for this week, Tyler Goodson obviously played well. Not an easy matchup against the Texans. And Dearness Johnson. Look, he got nine carries and three catches and most likely wouldn't be surprising. They're chasing points this week. So if they're chasing points against the Packers, we know that they haven't really leaned on tank Bigsby very much in that

regard. So if ETN still out, Dearness Johnson is very sneaky play this week. Sell Bigsby, sell Bigsby, sell Bigsby. Someone said they sold tank Bigsby for Isaiah Pacheco I love that good for you uh yeah this is come on Bigsby is no zero involvement in the passing game I'm just worried about Pacheco when does he come back and when he does come back how much work does he get oh if he comes back healthy he gets a lot of work I keep thinking God Pacheco would have had such a huge year he would would have had a huge season. I think the concern would be, though, is what Dave mentioned.

But, like, they're rolling right now, you know, from a win-loss perspective. Like, why would they rush him back at all? They won't rush him back. But when he does come back, they're just going to run the ball even more. I thought, Dave, you said that there was talk about him coming back in week 10 or something like that, Pacheco. It's possible. I think that's when he's eligible to come back. right yeah i think he's eligible to come back already but bigsby to me is a great sell high candidate i don't know if i would

be selling him for pacheco all right well at least we agree as a sell high candidate wide receiver the top three priorities for jamie were juwan jennings jalen mcmillan and i think you said tyler lockett third yes but the mary douglas and Jalen Tolbert are right behind him. Tight end, Hunter Henry, Kate Otten, Jatavian Sanders. DSTs, you got the Chiefs, the Chargers, the Lions, the Bears, and the Texans. All good options. So they don't need to be your number one waiver wire priority. You don't need to put even more than a dollar in fab. Good options.

We got to take a break. When we come back, we'll tell you about the shallow league guys. I'll do the South Park voice for the deep league guys. We'll talk Monday night football, drop a meter and more. I'll be right back. Jamie, are there any potential league winners to sit in there in shallow leagues that might be available? Across the board? Yeah. Yeah. What do you think? I mean, I'll start a receiver just because we know that that's the position of need. So you got a lot of guys that could be helpful. Jackson Smith and the jig, but, and for these leagues, I usually look at 85% or less.

So there are a couple of guys, for example, that are in the 86, 87% range. Just, you know, check your waiver wire. I'm not giving up on Wanda Robinson yet.

I know he had only 23 yards receiving, but he still had six catches. That's five games in a row with at least five catches and nine, an eight plus target. So he should hopefully continue to do something a little bit more significant than what we saw. Jerry Judy, I think we'll hopefully start to produce at a little higher level with Jameis. You got Jacoby Myers.

I hope to see him play. Missed the last two games with the ankle injury, but you know the loss of Devontae Adams should help him. We talked about both Packers guys, Christian Watson and Romeo Dobbs. Put a little bit of a slight priority with Dobbs over Watson. Khalil Shakir, look, he didn't disappear. Seven catches, 65 yards, caught all seven of his targets. No surprise there. So he could maybe benefit with Amari Cooper being on the field,

just playing a different role, and that will help him. Good option in PPR still. Keenan Allen, as you mentioned, great schedule coming up. Last time we saw him, had five catches and two touchdowns. So that's something that hopefully he can build off of. If all those guys are available, who's the one you're drooling over? Have to get this guy on my,

on my roster. Drooling over? Probably none of them, but you know, JSN just with the opportunity of, of Metcalf potentially being out. Okay. Okay. Running backs,

there are better options than what are available on waivers. You can start with, at this point you should be adding Jonathan Brooks in all leagues. Alexander Madison is clearly the lead guy now for the Raiders and had a very strong game, 123 total yards against the Rams. And that's now four games this season with at least, I think it's 12 plus PPR points where, you know, he's just been productive in one way or another, but this was his best outing across the board.

I would still be adding Ray Davis if he's available. James Cook didn't look 100% right in that game, and I know part of it was the score, but you saw what he was when Cook did not play the week before, and that's something I think you want to have on your team. Quarterbacks, there's only two that I put in the column. It's Geno Smith, and you got to keep an eye on DK Metcalf, but we know the schedule coming up is favorable. Plus, you have leading the NFL in passing yards, and while he would miss Metcalf, without a doubt, it's not expected to be a long-term injury. And then I think Aaron Rodgers is still worth picking up as well.

Did not play well, clearly, against the Steelers. That's Pittsburgh. Devontae Adams will get more comfortable. Schedule coming up is very favorable. Last time he played the Patriots, he had over 25 fantasy points. This is a good week to potentially trust him and hopefully things look better for him

moving forward. You mentioned a lot of tight ends. Njoku, Ferguson, Komet, Hawkinson. There's a lot of guys out there that can help you. Ferguson is still the best? How would you compare Ferguson to Otten and Henry? I still think Ferguson is the best.

If Njoku is available, I might put Njoku over Ferguson. Okay. All right. Dave, none of these guys are available in my leagues. What am I going to do on the waiver wire today? I hate this CBS show. They don't tell me anybody I need. Yeah, I know. Sorry. I shouldn't have done the CBS with the S. Yeah. Go hate this CBS show. They don't tell me anybody I need.

Yeah, I know. Sorry, I shouldn't have done the CBS with the S. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead, Dave. So Russell Wilson is the quarterback that makes the most sense. He's 84% available. He'll get gobbled up in a bunch of those deep leagues. I guess Drake May would be next up.

Jamie, you can tell me if you've got another quarterback in those deep leagues. Oh, I mean, there's a lot of two QB leagues. You mentioned Jameis. Jameis would be next up. Jamie, you can tell me if you've got another quarterback in those deep leagues. Oh, I mean, there's a lot of two QB leagues. Jameis. Jameis would be the one. Jameis, you got Mason Rudolph if you're desperate, and Gardner Minch if you're desperate. Look, you're not talking about starting those guys in super flex for two QB leagues,

but as we get to the bye weeks, O'Connell's going to miss four weeks for the Raiders, and Mason Rudolph, who knows how many more games he starts, but at least he's going to get you 12 or 13 fantasy points, as we saw in a bad game. So in desperate situations for those super flex and two quarterback leagues, they should be added for sure. I'll make a timely cultural reference at running backs

and say Dearness goes to fantasy camp. He's available in 90% of leagues. Dearness Johnson is. The only other super deep league running backs. And it's, you're desperate if you need them. Pierre strong to Michael hasty, hasty,

probably over strong just because if there's no Antonio Gibson, that's the passing downs back for the new England Patriots at wide receiver. I just want to say two things. One, one running back, one receiver. Oh,

I thought you were going to talk about your favorite Ernest Ghost. The trade deadline is within two weeks. And Khalil Herbert, if you want to get ahead of it, just in case he gets moved. And Mike Williams, if you want to get ahead of it before he gets traded. Yeah, and I've never seen him. There are sexier names on the trade block beyond those guys, but those guys are available that you can just grab and stash. And then if they don't get traded, you just drop kick them onto the waiver

wire again. Okay. Wide receiver. Jalen Melon tops the list. 94% available. His teammates, Sterling Shepard, 99% available. I would put pure Saul and Rashad Bateman ahead of Sterling Shepard. Those dudes are available in 87% of leagues.

Cedric Tillman. I would also put ahead of Sterling Shepard. He's 98% available. And then three other, two other guys other guys adam thielen 85 percent available he's eligible to return if there's a trade of a carolina wide receiver then adam thielen would theoretically be in line for a lot of targets in carolina and thielen himself could get traded if he proves to be healthy because he's got a contract that makes him easy to get dealt. Roman Wilson still hasn't come back yet for the Steelers, but I don't know if the Steelers really have a good number two wide receiver.

And I think he could still be that guy. It's just a matter of time. If Hunter Henry and Kate Otten already rostered in your league, Jatavion Sanders might not be 97% available. And he's the only tight end that I would recommend in those deep leagues. Johnnie Smith is 92% available. i know he had a great game what a weird game plan for miami's passing game i think it all changes with two a back and johnny smith goes back to like six ppr points at best uh don't overlook noah fant if metcalf is out he's available 91 of leagues and two games in his

last five with at least six guys. He's someone that could potentially help you as well. All right. And look, Noah Gray. Chiefs need something. Okay, so... Let's not overlook his game that he just had. Well, there was a game. There was another game last night. Let's talk about those two games.

Let's do it quickly here. Baltimore 41, Tampa Bay 31. And what do you think about the Bucs running backs right now? Because Rashad White, I wanted to look this up and I ran out of time. I'm going to look it up now.

I feel like he had the best game of his career. He scored about 29 points. He had two receiving touchdowns. But it's still, it was a three-headed monster. What are we thinking about? He's a must-start guy.

Because of the injuries? Yeah. I mean, look, he's their passing downs guy. Yeah. How many games do you see the Bucs playing with a lead without Evans and Godwin? So they showed an interesting graphic last night. I know a lot of it had to do with the Saints game.

They've been last in rushing yards in each of the last two years. I saw this. Yes. And, and they were eighth coming into week eight, week seven. So, you know, the, the, uh, Aikman and Buck were making a point about Liam Cohen and just the, the system. I think a lot of it had to do really get with that, that game against new Orleans, but they did use all three guys. It was frustrating to watch early in the game. As the game went on, Sean Tucker's role decreased a little bit. And Irving, you got a little lucky with him finding the end zone. But Rashad White in the passing game, I can't imagine that that's going away. No.

I can't imagine that's going away. And so, you know, you look at start to tear their weapons, right? If Evans is going to miss multiple weeks and Godwin's now gone, who are their two best players? Three best players. It's White, Irving, and Otten. It's not Jalen McMillan yet. You know, it might be,

but those are the three guys that are going to touch the ball the most. Jeez, Barf. Adam Snow is... Okay, Bucky Irving, 92% roster. Do you think he's droppable? No. I wouldn't drop him. All right. Okay, Bucky Irving, 92% rostered. Do you think he's droppable? No.

I wouldn't drop him. All right. He had all their snaps inside the 10. Oh, you know what? I honestly, I tweeted last night. I thought I'd get more response. I guess I'm not as popular or as interesting as I thought I was. If we were drafting today,

I really think I could make the case that Lamar Jackson and Derrick Henry should be the first two picks in fantasy drafts. They are the two players. I said this Monday afternoon before the game. I don't have any of those two guys. They are the two players that I fear the most if I am facing them, if my fantasy opponent has them, that they are going to destroy me. And I think you could make a case that they are the two most valuable players in fantasy. Absolutely, you can make the case. So who would you draft ahead of them, if anyone? I don't think there's another quarterback I would take ahead of Lamar.

No chance. And so the only other running backs that I would consider are Saquon. Maybe that's it. Maybe Breesall. Maybe Breesall. I'd put Ken Walker in the conversation, too. If you could put him in the conversation,

I think I'd take Henry over Walker. Henry has so few catches, so it's really unbelievable, but he is... He was having a bad game until the 82-yard run. He was. That's him.

That's him, right? All right. The other game, Arizona 17, Los Angeles 15. And J.K. Dobbins, what did you say? The other game. The other game, right? Yeah. This is our other daughter.

We have to talk about you. So, yeah. Jamie, what are your fantasy thoughts on this game? I mean, I was wrong on Connor. I thought the Chargers run defense would do a better job in stopping him, and he was fantastic. So, yeah, Jamie, what are your fantasy thoughts on this game? I mean, I was wrong on Connor. I thought the Chargers run defense would do a better job in stopping him, and he was fantastic. Kyler ended up with a very solid fantasy game despite minimal passing yards.

You see what he's capable of when he decides to be a runner, and it's just so special. You mentioned it. The Cardinals run defense, again, surprising us and stopping J.K. I think will bounce back and play much better this week. But yeah, just a bad day overall, you know, Justin Herbert, he has his most completions, most passing yards in the season, and still cannot top 17 fantasy points. Like it's just, it's going to be one of those years for him, I think where, you know, even when he has a, a, a quote unquote, good game, it's not going to be one of those years for him, I think, where even when he has a quote-unquote good game, it's not going to be a good fantasy game. The one thing I think you look at, though, it's back-to-back weeks of him with his passing numbers up.

Will that start to lead to something? I'm still not going to bet on it in a one-quarterback league, but it should be a little bit more encouraging for you if you have him in super flex in two-quarterback leagues. And the loss of Quentin Johnston,ston look this was the fear when we said to add him he had a very tough schedule coming up and did not perform well in those matchups then had his bye week and now he's hurt and unfortunately i think you gotta drop dave let's talk about marvin harrison jr started in 51 of leagues and he was a total dud he did get wide open for what should have been a touchdown, but that happens throughout the course of the game.

You can't just look at that play. That happens like every quarter. It happened to him in week one too. Right. But it's still, I mean, six targets, three catches for 21 yards.

He had a drop. I, yeah, I, I get 57% of leagues. He was started and sorry, but what are, what are we telling our Marvin Harrison,

junior managers right now? I think expectations have to be dialed down quite a bit. And for me, anyway, they were going into this game. It wasn't so much about the matchup as it was, what has Marvin Harrison been so far this year? And it's really just been a dude who's scored some touchdowns. What was his nickname in college? What did Gus start to call him?

I'm not ready, Marv. Speed. Power. Yeah, he's Moped marv now and he just he doesn't look like he doesn't look like the guy who played at ohio state and it's one thing to say that after week one when maybe he's thinking a little bit too much and then he comes back in week two and he looks like his old self but but the combination of like, he wasn't sudden in his routes. He was used almost as a decoy for the entire first half. He ran like it didn't have juice. Um, and then it didn't help that Kyler was like too high on a couple of

throws. It didn't help that he dropped a pass. We've seen him get lapped by other rookie wide receivers already this year. So I look, we've seen him get lapped by other rookie wide receivers already this year so i look no one should be calling anybody moped and marv especially me i'm like just i don't know i didn't think about a nickname for myself but i can't move um and i think eventually he will play well but i can't start him with expectations for more than like maybe 11, 12 PPR points. I want to say buy low on Marvin Harrison because it can't get any worse and probably won't get worse than five fantasy points.

How much better will it get? But his next three games are Miami. They're number one against receivers. Chicago, they're seventh. The Jets, they're fifth. I don't know if I buy Miami that had a very easy schedule, but being number one against receivers, even with an easy schedule is pretty impressive.

So the one thing I can say, he doesn't, I mean, they just shut down Michael Pittman. Come on. They don't, he doesn't have a good schedule going forward. I'll just say that he may not be as bad as it looks on paper,

but his next three games and then his buy, it's not a good schedule for Marvin Harris. It's, it's not the most encouraging situation, but at the same time, like if you can get them cheap, you can get them cheap. I mean, you might see people.

The Dolphins, flip side of that is you probably want to sell them because his name and draft capital still carries some value. You know, so like if you could turn Marvin Harrison in a week, let's just say he has a good game against Dolphins, into Puka, I'd be doing that. All right, let's get to John. If there's reports that Puka will be back soon, sure. Just the last thing. This is the cherry on top for Marv.

How many games this year does Kyler Murray have over 30 pass attempts? Great point. One, I believe. I would say none. It's three. How many does he have with 35 or more pass attempts? One. It's zero.

It's a team that's running the ball running the ball well as long as connor's doing his thing the defense plays like they do yesterday matt the the cardinals won a game the way we expected the chargers to win that game yeah uh boring and uh this sometimes we get comments in the chat that are really out of line but this one nails me. Just like perfect. Adam, the type of guy to stop the microwave before it hits zero because he doesn't want to hear it beep. Yep. ZBAT, great comment. Absolutely true.

It's very funny, though. The NFC West, just looking at the standings. Seattle's four and three. Arizona and San Francisco, three and four. The Rams are two and four. It's so wide open. It is. It really is.

Yeah, that's great. It's huge. All right, drop-o-meter, zero to ten, Jamison Williams. Zero. I would say that he's like a five or six in that league that you talked about, Adam, that small, two-wide receiver, one-flex league. But outside of that, it's like a one. Zach Moss, 89% rostered.

The smaller the league and the less that catches count, the more I'm willing to drop Zach Moss, 89% rostered. The smaller the league and the less that catches count, the more I'm willing to drop Zach Moss. I'd call him a 10 in those leagues, and I'd probably call him like a six and a half overall. I think just given the nature of what the waiver wire looks like right now, if you saw Zach Moss available, he'd be second or third on your priority list.

That's that running back. Yeah, I mean, he's basically a handcuff as it looks right now, but he does catch some passes. Sam Laporta can't drop him now, right? I wouldn't drop him now.'s basically a handcuff as it looks right now, but he does catch some passes. Sam Laporta can't drop him now, right? I wouldn't drop him now. I don't know if I'd start him now, but I wouldn't drop him now. Correct. Agreed. I will say this. You're one player away from your team looking very solid as a starting group,

and K.Dotten is sitting there, and Sam Laporta is the only one to drop him. Drop him, Laporta, fraud. Wow. What if it were Hunter Henry? Look at where we've come. Um, I don't know if I'm there with Henry yet. No,

but you probably want to drop, hopefully drop someone else roster both and start Henry. Yeah. Yes. Uh, tank Dell zero to 10. Zero. Oh no.

I I'm, I'm ready to drop tank Dell. Let's call him. Here come the Colts. There's no chance I'm dropping. The Col here come the Colts here comes Joe Mixon yeah Christian Watson 0-10 1 if I'm dropping Tank Dell I'm dropping

Christian Watson the same so 7 by the way at least in the case of Tank Dell Nico will be back in a couple weeks Anthony Richardson we hope Michael Pittman, Josh Downs. Nine

for Richardson, seven for Pittman, six for Downs. I was impressed by a couple of throws that Richardson made, and then the rest of the throws made me want to throw up in my wastebasket. So I agree across the board with Jamie. If the playoffs started today, the Colts are in the playoffs. That made me want to throw up in my waist basket. So I agree across the board with Jamie.

If the playoffs started today, the Colts are in the playoffs. Oh, that made me want to throw up in my waist basket. Wanda Robinson. Zero. It's like a five and nine. Seven and nine. No, it's higher than that in the non-PBR, like seven. Cortland Sutton with Carolina coming up this week. That's the only reason I didn't put him in the column.

I feel like there's going to be a squeaky wheel game coming a little bit for him. Agreed. He can be dropped, as we said on Sunday, he can be dropped in 10-team leagues if you need to make a move. But I would try to hold him if he can. Just for one more week, just to see. This is Cortland Sutton we're talking about here. No targets last week. And Bo Nix, by the way, is going to be someone we're about

to talk about as a good matchup this week. Brock Purdy, 98% rostered, drop-o-meter. Zero. Four. I guess the case to be made is if you don't want to start him this week against Dallas because you're worried about the receiver situation, he's got a bye in week nine, then maybe you can justify dropping Brock Purdy.

Okay, quarterbacks on the waiver wire. nine, then maybe that you can justify dropping Brock Purdy. Okay. Quarterbacks on the waiver wire. If Aaron Rodgers and Tua Tungabailoa are staring at you, who are you taking? Tua. Tua first. Aaron Rodgers or Drake May? Rodgers. Probably

Rodgers. This week, would you start Bo Nix over Russell Wilson and Matthew Stafford? Over Stafford. I'd start Wilson over him. I'm definitely starting Wilson over him. Bo Nix has Carolina this week, so they are bad against basically everyone. Stafford has Minnesota.

They're 18th against quarterbacks, and Russell Wilson has the Giants, who the last four quarterbacks have been pretty solid against them, except Burrow wasn't really great. All right, and then you got Jameis Winston in shallow leagues, Dorian Thompson-Robinson, Gardner Minshew, Mason Rudolph. You could go with Marcus Mariota maybe for one week against the Bears, but they're really good against quarterbacks. If let's just say the Browns came out and said, Jameis Winston is our

starter going forward, how would you feel about him? Do you think he would average 20 fantasy points per game and 6 points for passing touchdown leagues? No. I think he'd be just short of that, and you wouldn't want to watch any of it. Oh, you're going to get some touchdowns, you're going to get some

picks. I'd want to watch every second of it. It can't turn away. Alright, running backs, I'm going to skip over thiss. You're going to get some picks. I'd want to watch every second. Yeah, it can't turn away. All right, running backs. I'm going to skip over this one, basically. But Madison, Jonathan Brooks, Ray Davis, those are the shallow league guys. Jalen Warren is someone to get. He gets the Giants this week, and then he has a bye. Tyler Goodson, we're hoping Jonathan Taylor comes back.

And the thing about Goodson is he didn't catch a single pass with Anthony Richardson, and he's facing the Texans, who have been inconsistent this year but but not bad against running backs uh Dearness Johnson though uh three catches for 32 yards I moved I moved him to two okay Dearness Johnson what about um what about uh Jemichael Hastie was that just an injury thing with Gibson probably you would have to think so I don't know how many people have any interest in Jamichael Hasty, though. It's such a bad situation, a bad matchup. If Stevenson was hurt, maybe, but we don't know what

Gibson's status is. And it's the Patriots. Okay, and they're playing the Jets this week. So, Kamani Vidal, Tajay Spears, Justice Hill, these are names that you could get. The thing about Justice Hill is like, you're never going to know when to start.

You're never going to know when to play him. He's got three games this season with, uh, 11 plus PPR points. Two of them came on touchdowns, two of them. He had six catches in like, it's just,

it's so hard. But that being said, as we get to buy weeks, like if you just want to desperation plays, put somebody on a good offense, like that's the hope. And wouldn't you consider him a little bit more if it's a matchup where the Ravens might face some tough situations running the ball with Henry?

Like for the first half last night, Henry wasn't getting anything against Tampa. And that's a good run defense. They've got another one this week in Cleveland. Yeah, sure. But there's also been some games in line PPR points. There's also been some games the last couple of weeks where he just wasn't involved. Right.

Yeah. He was running over, but even games where Lamar Jackson has thrown a lot, there have been games where, where justice still hasn't been involved, but I think it's basically like, Oh my gosh, I am completely stuck.

I'm just going to play someone on the best offense in football and hope he scores. You're going to have to make a decision on Justice Hill versus Dearness Johnson. Hill. Yeah. It might be the same guy. To roster this week? No, to start this week. Oh, I would

take Dearness Johnson this week. Okay. That's actually a solid point, right? Because ETN's still out in theory. If ETN plays, it's no-brainer. It's Hill. But if ETN's Because ETN's still out in theory. If ETN plays, it's a no-brainer, too. But if ETN's out, it's Johnson. All right, wide receivers. I'm skipping wide receivers.

We did this earlier. We've done it basically throughout the entire show. We've said all the names that need to be said. So please just rewind. Check the time codes in the episode description. Just thoughts on Calvin Ridley real quick. He had nine targets. He has now 17 targets in his last two games.

Hopkins is dealing with a little bit of an injury here at Detroit this week. What do you think about Ridley? No chance. Oh, it's an awesome setup with a guy who's getting a lot of targets. He might outperform Justice Hill. Okay. And then tight ends is just crazy. I mean, you've got potentially being able to pick up in shallower leagues,

Ferguson Goddard, who we don't know he's going to play this week. Hawkinson great schedule. If he can come back this week, that'd be wonderful. Um, sex, three games are great.

Uh, Tucker craft, 79% rostered. Zach hurts. I don't think we're going to be too excited about him with Mariota out. I already made the case for Pat Fryer. Muth at 75% rostered the, you know, I think you'll get more going to be too excited about him with Mariota out. I already made the case for Pat Fryermuth at 75% rostered. I think you'll get more pass attempts than what you got last week, typically.

And then there's Cole Komet. But then Cade Otten and Hunter Henry are widely available, especially Otten, 40% rostered. Henry, 58% rostered. We've spoken, I think, enough about them. And then Noah Fant. Just keep in mind with Henry's game. Does he do that if Douglas plays?

Yeah, because he had, what, five targets the week before? Yep. And he had nine targets last week. And really nobody else picked up the slack, as I recall, for the absence of Demario Douglas. Yeah, Noah Fant, Jatavion Sanders. Dalton Schultz is pretty interesting. He's 47% rostered,

and the Colts have allowed 12 or more PPR fantasy points to Pat Fryermuth, Cole Komet, Brenton Strange, and Jonu Smith. Three of those guys scored more than 16 fantasy points, so Schultz, I don't know. Coming off that game, it's hard to make much of a guess. Yeah, he led them in receiving yards. He did. 28 yards on one catch.

And then Jonu Smith, we're thinking it's going to be a lot more Tyree Killen, Jayden Waddell, a lot less Johnnie Smith. Noah Gray, Will Disley in deeper leagues. All right. Yeah, I know I just basically ran through it, but I don't want to do the show twice. DSTs, the Chiefs, the Chargers, the Lions, the Bears, and the Texans. We're about to do it twice in two hours. Good week to stream DSTs and kickers.

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