Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire! Juwan Johnson, Daniel Jones, Packers WRs, Troy Franklin and More (09/16 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

Who are our top waiver wire priorities? Are we buying Daniel Jones now? Will Jake Browning keep the job? Is Juwan Johnson legit? We also talk about Troy Franklin and others to consider and then we tel...l you how much FAB to spend on these guys (12:30) ... News and notes (21:10) and our top priorities at each position: QB (29:05), RB (33:15), WR (35:00), TE (37:15), DST (38:50) and Kicker. We discuss Wan'Dale Robinson, the Commanders running backs, Harold Fannin Jr. and more ... Options in shallow leagues (42:25) including Bhayshul Tuten, Jauan Jennings and Jake Ferguson. Options in deeper leagues (46:00) including Mac Jones and Woody Marks. Then we look at the Dropometer (49:00) and take a closer look at the waiver wire (53:00) at each position. Find out who to stream for Week 3 and who to stash for the future ... Email us at fantasyfoootball@cbsi.com Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Shop our store: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shop.cbssports.com/fantasy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow our FFT team on Twitter:⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @FFToday⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AdamAizer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @JameyEisenberg⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @daverichard⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @heathcummingssr⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is fantasy football today from CBS Sports. What a play! Can you believe this? It's a no idea. It's time to dominate your fantasy league. Off to the races and he stays on his feet. It's just going to go the distance. Now here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Tuesday, September 16th. Welcome everybody to fantasy football today presented by BetMGM, the sports book born in Vegas. What a waiver wire week if you need a quarterback you probably do and there are a lot of them available on the waiver wire a lot of them with some good matches
Starting point is 00:00:38 Aaron Rogers great matchup this week are we going to trust him and many many more names to talk about here including Jake Browning and Tarad Taylor and Carson Wentz
Starting point is 00:00:47 and Marcus Marriota all right Adam A's or Dave Richard and Jamie Eisenberg Just a year is it Yeah I know right Just a quick reminder usually we have CBS Sports Network Tuesdays and Thursdays at 1 p.m. Tuesday WaiverWire, Thursday rankings for the week. We are not doing that this week. So no CBS Sports Network this
Starting point is 00:01:08 week, but we've got all your waiver wire needs right now, including the top three waiver wire priorities from Jamie Eisenberg. Go. For me, it would be Juan Johnson won. Screw quarterback. Who needs a quarterback? We need tight ends. So Johnson's, you know, back-to-back games over 15 PPR points, hard to overlook that. And then it would be two quarterbacks with Daniel Jones and Jake Browning. I think for Jones, it's time to buy into him as a number one fantasy quarterback at this point. You know, two straight, solid games, one against Denver. I know they both have been at home.
Starting point is 00:01:38 So we'll see if this is the, you know, pitfall coming up, division game on the road. But based on what he's done through two games with this Colts offense, I'm going to trust him this week if I need a quarterback. And then Jake Browning, the track record, small sample size, seven games, but 22 plus fantasy. points on average in the seven games he started in 2023 without Joe Burrow and over 20 fantasy points coming in for Joe Burrow in week two. And Burrow is going to be out the majority of the season. So again, it was Juan Johnson, who has now go back to last year. John Johnson now has seven or more targets in four straight games. You look at his career, you can find some good two game stretches, hard to find good three game stretches for Joanne Johnson. This might feel
Starting point is 00:02:25 a little bit different because he is playing pretty much every single snap. They're designing plays for him and he's 51% rostered. So this might be the last opportunity to get Joanne Johnson who has 20 targets in two games at Seattle this week. And then Daniel Jones and Jake Browning for Jamie.
Starting point is 00:02:41 Okay, that's top three for Jamie. How about for Dave? I want to go in a different direction with my top three Adam because a lot of people are in leagues where Joanne Johnson was picked up last week and obviously there's going to be people who are going to prioritize quarterback based on what they need. Let me give you a top three players that are going to be available in the
Starting point is 00:02:58 majority of leagues. So these guys are available in those deeper leagues. I think Troy Franklin is number one with a bullet for the Denver Broncos. Looks like he's going to be their number two receiver. The targets have been awesome for him each of the first two weeks of the season. It's not like there's a whole bunch of great players on my specific list because it's a deeper list. Jetavian Sanders would be there. I like the target volume that he got in week number two. Just worried about how long that can continue for over the course of the season, but for now, I think he's not bad. And then I was going to say Woody Marks. I'm not sure if it's ever going to be Woody Marks. So why not put Chris Rodriguez on your shopping list, since I think he's going to end up
Starting point is 00:03:39 being active for the commanders. And we're going to have a new look for how the commanders are going to use their running backs. Cross game is going to be their main guy. But who's going to work third downs, who's going to be working near the goal line? Are we sure it's going to be McNichols, who is definitely on the commanders each week for his special teams play? Could it be Rodriguez? And so in those deeper leagues, you really don't have anything else to improve your roster. Maybe you avoided the injury so far. Stashing Chris Rodriguez and seeing what happens this week is not a bad idea. All right. So those are really deep league guys. So Franklin, Chris Rodriguez, and I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:04:14 who is the, who, uh, oh, Jatavian Sanders. The Jatavian Sanders was in the middle. And by all means, like if Jawan Johnson is out there on your waver war, he trumps all these guys. Same thing with Harold Fanon. Same thing with Cedric Tillman. And of course, if you need a quarterback, Jones and Browning, those are the two. Okay. This is not exactly the top three.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Is this, okay, Dave is going kind of all. My top three is a deeper league top three. So people that are in 12 team leagues, slightly deeper benches, Joanne Johnson's already rostered. It's for those folks. Gotcha. So Troy Franklin played 83% of the snaps. That was his first game of his career playing more than two-thirds of the snaps.
Starting point is 00:04:53 And I think at least in this game, he kind of played the Evan Ingram role, kind of what we expected from Ingram, kind of a short area slot guy. Well, Ingram's barely playing so far this year, even when he's healthy. And Franklin was, you know, he's primarily in the slot and he's getting wide receiver screens and things. So he had one big play on a really nice play by Bo Nix. But, yeah, I'm very intrigued by Troy Franklin, just kind of seeing the role that he's feeling that. We were excited about Evan Ingram. It's not happening for Ingram.
Starting point is 00:05:24 And it kind of looks like Troy Franklin is doing that role. I want to talk about, well, you know, you mentioned Joanne Jennings. I thought, Joanne Jennings, 71% rostered. Would he be the number one ad if he's available for you guys? he'd be the number one receiver he'd certainly be in the top three are we sure he's okay Carl Shanan said he was banged up on Monday
Starting point is 00:05:49 I think he's going to be banged up every week and I think based on his contract he's going to play every week as long as he can play through it okay that's cool all right well Joanne Jennings coming off big game and I thought he'd be more available in ESPN and Yahoo leagues
Starting point is 00:06:01 but he's actually rostered in more ESPN and Yahoo league than he is CBS which is unusual because ESPN and Yahoo more 10 team leagues than CBS but John Jennings 71% rostered in CBS, 80% in Yahoo, 76 on ESPN. How about Quinnshon Judkins, 89% rostered on CBS? Yahoo, Quinchon Judkins, 62% rostered, 57% on ESPN.
Starting point is 00:06:22 So I just, I talk about Quinshan Judkins, and I feel like I haven't brought this up. He's probably going to get suspended, right? And I think Dan brought it up yesterday, but we've got to say this. If you're thinking about dropping Dylan Samson or anything like that, how are you guys looking at Jamie the Judkins situation right now? I didn't see he's going to get suspended. Where did that come? Well, there was a report that they're bracing for a suspension.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Okay, maybe I'm reading into it too much, but I thought he's, what do you think? He's met with league officials about the July incident. Should I not have said that? Am I jumping to conclusions? I just didn't see it. So I'm curious because that's news to me. I would assume if he's going to get suspended, it's probably going to be a two-game suspension at most. I mean, he's not been convicted of anything, and the charges were dropped.
Starting point is 00:07:12 So, you know, they can certainly do what they want to do based on how the Code of Conduct policy is. But I wouldn't be dropping Dylan Samson anyway. I mean, he's going to have a role in tandem with Judkins. You want to drop forward. That's a different conversation. But in the case of Judkins, you know, again, I look at the other sites in their waiver columns, and I get jealous when they get to write about Basial Tutin and, you know, Quinchon Juddkins. Because I have to throw that into a category of, you know, hey, if you're in the 10-team league on CBS and these guys are available, go get them.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Yes, those are the two biggest priorities. Tutin, to me, would be as right there with Judkins. So, yes, if you can look at your waiver wire, if you play on a different site, and you see guys like Juan Jennings and Tutin and Judkins and these type of guys that have so much upside, Scataboo, you know, I mean, another one that, you know, looks like you could be taking over the Giants pack, So there's lots of options, again, as I said to you on Express, and I hope people understand this that have been listening to us and watching us for years, that we try to, I try to, we try to on the show, but I try to in the column, you know, give you from 10 team leagues to 16 team leagues. You know, it's, it's, it's, it's something that I think we make a good priority of doing. I've got Tony Grossey of ESPN Cleveland reporting that, not reporting, speculating that there will be a suspension.
Starting point is 00:08:36 This was last week. I mean, yeah, but again, I wouldn't be dropping those guys whether Judkins is not suspended or not. All right. Okay, there we go. There are some names for you. And let me ask you this about Jake Browning because obviously in Super Flex leagues,
Starting point is 00:08:51 we now have some other options. We have Carson Wentz. We have maybe, hopefully not, but maybe Mariotta. But with Browning, you just mentioned how good he's been, Jamie, when he's played. How concerned are you about the idea of throwing all your fab at him And then the Bengals trade for someone because we're already starting to hear speculation about that,
Starting point is 00:09:12 not from Cleveland, just from people who watch football and whatever. Like, are they going to go after James Winston, Kirk Cousins, you know, whoever it may be. Do you think the Bengals might go that route? I don't think they're trading for a starter. I think they're trading for a backup. You know, so if they are going to get somebody, it's in the case of what happens to Jake Browning. So you're right. We talked about this a little bit on Express yesterday, and that was before we got the,
Starting point is 00:09:36 McCarthy and Daniels News. So anybody that watched that, we were giving you some options in a different way. We were talking about Terrat Taylor, you know, just if you want to manage the week-to-week quarterback situation, if you lose Borough, before you can make a trade or somebody else emerges. But I think in the case of
Starting point is 00:09:51 what we're looking at now, yes, you don't have to spend all your fab. That being said, if Browning is the starter for the rest of the season, or at least until week 15, then you could be getting a borderline number one. fantasy quarterback and so those type of options don't come along very often but we are three weeks
Starting point is 00:10:11 into the season and now we've lost purdy for potentially two games who knows much longer because he sounds like he's going to miss week three you lose borough for you know 12 weeks essentially you lose McCarthy maybe for two or three weeks you lose maybe daniels for a week you lose maybe justin fields for week this is the one position where you could survive that in one quarterback leagues. In Superflex and two quarterback leagues, you need to go get these guys. So, you know, there may be because, you know, looking at the
Starting point is 00:10:41 roster percentages in some 10 team super flex and two QB leagues, Russell Wilson, Joe Flacco, Spencer Rattler, those guys may be on waiver, so it's a different conversation when you have all these guys. But in a 12 team league, like the one we play in, you know, where someone like me is rostering Jackson
Starting point is 00:10:57 Dart with the what if. And, you know, you had to make the tough choice of dropping Spencer Rattler, But for the most part, every quarterback is roster. Then you're going to spend a lot of FAB on something like this. All right. So, Dave, let's transition to the FAB discussion here. And how much FAB are we spending on the Jawan Johnson's of the world?
Starting point is 00:11:18 I think Jawan Johnson is worthy of a 15 to 20 percent FAB drop. It's been two weeks of him playing well. Marry that with the track record of tight ends under Kellyn Moore. Marry that with how Spencer Rattler has been playing, the game script for the Saints all along and I think that we should count on Joanne Johnson oh man saying the sentence gives me
Starting point is 00:11:40 the heby-jeebies but I'm going to say it anyway we can hope that Joanne Johnson can be a top 12th tight end rest of season well I mean think think about where we are at the position right sure no no no I get yeah yeah I have kiddle out for at least two more games
Starting point is 00:11:56 who knows where we go from there right Ingram is dropable Andrews is dropable those were two guys that for the part, based on ADP, were drafted as top 12 guys. Hawkinson, not great so far to start the season, potentially drop a bowl in 12 team leagues. And then a week ago, we were waiting to see or trusting, in some cases, from this group of players.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Johnson was among them. Johnson, Fanon, obviously Johnson's been better through two weeks. Najoko's been a bust through two weeks. But in terms of the waiver, where guys, like Hunter, Henry, Brenton, Strange, Kyle Pitts, Dalton Kincaid. Like, there's been a group of guys that, you know, in some strange situations that have either been good or bad. And so I think in the case of Johnson, like,
Starting point is 00:12:44 you're seeing this role with this new coordinator and quarterback. And to Dave's point, Spencer Atler's thrown 80 times in two weeks. You know, like, there's probably going to be a lot of volume in this passing attack. And it's been, from a target perspective, beneficial for not just Johnson, but Alave and Chehid. And I think in the case, again, of Johnson, like, you're seeing production. And, you know, you mentioned the targets, Adam. The production was there at the end of last season, too.
Starting point is 00:13:08 He was taking advantage of those targets. So when he's getting these chances, he's producing. All right. Guess who's number two among tight ends in targets so far this season? It's Jake Ferguson because Joanne Johnson's number one, 20 targets through two games. Guess who's number one in PPR points per game among tight ends this season? Johnson. No.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Nope. Tucker Kraft. by a point and a half ahead of Joanne Johnson. So Joanne Johnson, who nobody drafted through two weeks, is doing better in the target and fantasy point averages than our heroes, Brock Bowers, and Trey McBride. Do I think this last? No. Do I think he's a top 12th tight end?
Starting point is 00:13:47 At this point, yes, I do. Okay. I'm starting to lean more toward 20% just to lock this up. And hopefully you don't have any major tight end worries the rest of the season, hopefully, fingers crossed, maybe. Okay. How much fab for Wondell Robinson? This is one of those where I think with the receivers, there's so many options.
Starting point is 00:14:06 So I wouldn't go crazy with it. But, you know, again, we're talking targets. He's got 18 targets in two games, you know, and you just saw with Russ the second game of these two guys together, a career performance for him. So, again, I wouldn't go crazy. But, you know, Dave mentioned two names already in, you know, guys that he's interested in. There are two guys I wrote about in Cedric Tillman and Troy Franklin. you have um you know from uh still have Josh Downs out there so Christian Kirk still have well I was going to say like you know he's ahead of those guys for now yeah I mean right now I have
Starting point is 00:14:41 Wondell as a number one receiver to add this week because the the floor is so safe and the ceiling could be you know better than we've seen from him before but it's they're so lumped together you know and I would say it's not just you know some of those guys it's like IOManner is, you know, having a good start to his career through two games. You know, like there's lots of guys that are kind of in this, you know, number three-ish range. And so I don't, I don't mind, you know, taking chances on somebody a little, or I'm sorry, I don't mind not necessarily spending all my fab on one receiver this week. Like, I don't know by next week, you know, we're going to see WAND.
Starting point is 00:15:23 I'll come back to being, you know, 11 PPR points. and, you know, Tillman took a fluky touchdown for him to get to where he was at this week. You know, so there's just, you know, in Franklin, obviously, you know, you could see Marvin Mims showing a little bit of signs of life and maybe Ingram too. So I wouldn't go crazy with it. I'd go 8% and that's in full PPR. It's going to be lower if it's half a non-PPR. And he had 11.5 ppr points in week one. And that's, that's what I would expect from him.
Starting point is 00:15:49 All right. So unless it's Juan Jennings, we're not going to be spending more than, say, roughly 8% on a waiver wire wide receiver this week. And then quarterbacks, obviously, Superflex changes everything. Just last question. You'd spend what percentage of your fab on Browning? In Superflex? Yeah. I think, again, if you're committing yourself to all of it,
Starting point is 00:16:16 I would say in your league, you're probably starting in the 70% range. So if you want to save yourself a little bit for the rest of the season, I get it. If you miss them, you know, you got to make sure you try and get. a Wenz, a Mariotta, one of these guys. And by the way, let's give Thomas some credit. His $38 on Carson Wentz is paying off. And we'll see. Let's see how once does and for how long before we give him props on the $38
Starting point is 00:16:39 bid. That's still a lot of change. Would you put a 38% bid in for Carson Wentz this week, Jamie? In a Super Flex League, 100%. In a Super Flex League when we don't know how long Wentz is going to play for. This isn't like Browning. This isn't like Daniel Jones has already. rostered. Yeah, but you also have to take into account, and I'll speak for Thomas here. He has
Starting point is 00:16:59 basically one quarterback. So he was, okay, fine. And that's, he was. How much for, yeah, how much for Wentz is a good question. Again, whenever you get these guys that are going to be multi-week starters. So Mac Jones last week, you know, we were hearing two to five weeks. This week, it could be, you know, two to three weeks for, for McCarthy being out, you know, so 30% makes a lot of sense. All right. So I just want to say that I've been watching a lot of game tape. the last day, Monday is, you know, good game tape day. Welcome to the club. Carson, thank you, Dave.
Starting point is 00:17:30 Carson Wentz in week 18 last year was the worst tape I've seen of any player I've watched this year. Absolutely horrible. He was playing Chiefs backups against Broncos starters. So there's that. It's not there. That's all you got to do. No, but that doesn't mean that you should be missing, like, wide open guys. He was absolutely awful.
Starting point is 00:17:52 I suspect he'll be better than he was. but it is worth known. I mean, he was so bad in that game. What was it, week 18 the year before? Yeah, his numbers weren't great. He didn't throw that much. He ran, let me see. So week 18, the year before that with the Rams,
Starting point is 00:18:10 he was 17 of 24, 163 yards, two touchdowns, one interception, but he also had 17 carries, 56 yards, and a touchdown rushing. Against the Chiefs, he was 10 of 17 for 90, no, not with the Chiefs. Against the Broncos, he was 10 of 17 for 98 yards and no touchdowns. But obviously, there's a lot of appeal with Carson Wentz, especially facing the Bengals and then the Steelers who have been horrible in the next two games. All right, we're going to take a break. We got news and notes for you, and many more waiver-wire names after this.
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Starting point is 00:19:39 It's never just coffee. Joe Burrow, there's no official timetable for him, but the reports say minimum three months. Are we dropping Joe Burrow? Do you have an IR in your league? No. Then you're dropping Joe Burrow. Wait, wait, wait, wait, is it a keeper league?
Starting point is 00:19:57 Okay. Kevin Stavansky brushed off talk of a quarterback change for now. I still worry about this situation, guys, because the Browns are 0-2, their next two games are Green Bay and then at Detroit. So what happens if they're 0-4? Do we have to keep us in the back of our mind here as we pick up Tillman, as we pick up Harold Fanon is still widely available? I wouldn't worry so much about Fanon because I think what Dylan Gabriel does will be okay for him. I mean, in the case of Tillman, clearly he's benefited now in the six games that he's been fantasy relevant from the majority of that being James Winston and Joe Flacco, you know, two of the biggest gunslingers we've had in the last, you know, three, four years. So, yes, there'd be a concern, but I'd like to see how this plays out because they're still going to be throwing the ball so much.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Okay. And Jaden Daniels with the knee injury. So Marcus Mariotta actually was very good last year. in two games where he replaced Jaden Daniels, 23.6 fantasy points against the Panthers, 30 fantasy points at Dallas. Those were two of the worst defenses in football last year, but Marietta played really well. He'll get the Raiders, who really haven't been that bad defensively through two games.
Starting point is 00:21:10 J.J. McCarthy, high ankle sprain. The speculation is two to four weeks, Bengals this week for him, and Carson Wentz is his replacement. You know, I don't think anyone eclipsed 300 yards last night, but at least six quarterbacks through for more yards in week two than J.J. McCarthy has thrown for in the entire season so far. So they've thrown for 150 yards per game. It should get better no matter who's the quarterback. We've got Justin Fields with the
Starting point is 00:21:38 concussion. Could be Terad Taylor at Tampa Bay. And we've got some running back news. Aaron Jones left with a hamstring injury, and he seems unlikely to play this week. They get Cincinnati, so it could be a I think I know my start of the week is, by the way. So, yes, so Jordan Mason going to be starting a lot of leagues against the Bengals. And that's pretty much it for running back. Before I get to the wide receiver news and a note on Brian Thomas Jr., football fans,
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Starting point is 00:22:51 He just seemed to be shying away from contact. Maybe the wrist injury for Brian Thomas Jr. was the reason for that. He gets Houston this week. It's going to be interesting. You know he's going to get shadowed by Stingley. As I recall, he had success. I have to go back and watch it.
Starting point is 00:23:03 He had a lot of success against Stingley last year. Jaden Reed, six to eight weeks with a broken collarbone. So, Don Tavian Wicks, Romeo Dobbs. Who do we want there? We'll discuss that. Xavier Worthy trending toward a week three return. Are you guys ready to drop Marquise Brown for your desired waiver wire option? I wouldn't do that yet.
Starting point is 00:23:23 I think Marquise Brown is certainly in the same kind of range that Wondale and Tillman and all these other guys, at least for their short term, we just don't know what this is going to look like, you know, with still Rice out for another couple of weeks. So if you want to play, you want to go that route that Rice is returning and you're looking long term,
Starting point is 00:23:40 I get it. You know, Tillman and Wondale and Chehede and, you know, even Christian Kirk. But look what the Cowboys just did to the Giants. And, You may see Mahomes come out and have a very strong game.
Starting point is 00:23:53 Wouldn't shock me at all clearly. And so wouldn't be surprised that Marquis Brown does something of significance. I would just hold on to him until we're sure that Xavier Worthy's playing. And then even when Worthy's playing, I think Jamie's right, there's a chance that Brown can be useful as a number three receiver. Okay. But long term, like if you're making a long term decision, like no chance you're starting Hollywood Brown this week and you want to try and, you know, get that tight end you need or a quarterback, then yes. Brown is dropable. Yeah, I'll give you example.
Starting point is 00:24:24 Like, I picked up Brown last week in a league where I had no intention of starting him. It was more, I had nobody really that I needed. My lineup was fine, but I had a roster spot to, you know, sort of, you know, play with a little bit. And now I'll drop him. Tucker Kraft is a big liar. He said he'd never had a 100-yard game before.
Starting point is 00:24:41 He actually had two in college. So, quite frankly, I don't know if I could roster someone that I can't trust, but I will make an exception for Tucker Craft. There's a lot of offensive line news. The Buccaneers super beat up, but they just keep on ticking. They're down both tackles right now. San Francisco Guard, Ben Barch. Baker's like, I'll see your 40 touchdowns, and I'll raise you.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Nice, yeah. And honestly, I mean, it could have been a better game for him, obviously, but they ran with Rashad White touchdown at the end was anti-climactic for fantasy purposes. Dallas Center, Cooper Beebe, is going to be out a long time. with an injury, two minutes, Minnesota's beat up. Maybe they get Darrasaw back this week. That'd be nice. Titans are beat up right now.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Oh, so two panthers. This is a big deal, I think. I'm going to end with this. Then we'll get into the waiver wire. This is, yes. The Panthers, right? So they got, remember, a couple years ago they go out and they, they improve their interior offensive line.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Part of the reason for that, other than the obvious, is being better, is that they have a small quarterback and you don't want pressure in his face. So they knew, and I remember reading this, I'm not just making this up. They knew they had to be, you know, better in the interior offensive line for the pocket for Bryce Young. Now you've got Austin Corbett and Rob Hunt on IR. So, you know, how does this affect, Dave, how does this affect the Panthers offense going forward? It's going to open the door for more pass rush pressure on Bryce Young for sure. Yeah, I mean, that being said, he had 169 yards and two touchdowns in the fourth quarter against the Cardinals.
Starting point is 00:26:19 now the Cardinals were without some of their starting corners for most or all the fourth quarter so that could have played a big role in there but i think it's going to be a little treacherous for anybody who's like running routes of 12 plus yards on a semi regular basis in carolina this is one of the reasons why i think jatavian sanders could have some staying power because he can run those shorter routes ted macmillan can run those shorter routes they can work on getting the ball out fast they can work on getting Bryce Young on the move a little bit more, and they're going to have to do that. I think the Hunt injury is the one that's way more concerning than the Corbett. And don't forget about Hunter Renfro. I mean, he had a big game, too. So he's involved here. But just keep in mind, Bryce Young to 55 times. Like, everybody got a chance to get an opportunity.
Starting point is 00:27:08 He had a whole game's worth of attempts in the fourth quarter, 30 attempts. Well, Falcons DST, by the way, 7% rostered coming off a six-sack performance at Minnesota. They're not bad options. That defense looks great. Yeah, I mean, they stunk against the bucks, but they were great at Minnesota, and now they face the Panthers. So we're giving up the third most fantasy points at DSTs. All right, let's get to our top three players at each position. Jamie, for quarterback.
Starting point is 00:27:32 What do we got? So Daniel Jones is one for me. Number two is Jake Browning, and I believe three is Rogers. All right, Daniel Jones, Jake Browning, Aaron Rogers. Rogers facing the Patriots this week who are giving up the most yards per attempt and over 300 yards to both quarterbacks they've faced. With Daniel Jones,
Starting point is 00:27:56 do you guys feel like this is a must-have player, basically, whether you need a quarterback or not? Because this is, Jamie, I said, the Baker Mayfield yesterday, and you said, let's say maybe the Sam Darnold, but is this the guy who's going to be a top 10 quarterback this year, then just needs to be rostered? I guess if you have, you know, open roster spot and based on the fact that all these quarterbacks are going down, maybe you can add him and trade him or, you know, you want to cover yourself just in case, you know, that your guy is the next one to get injured.
Starting point is 00:28:27 But if you need a quarterback, then yes, he should be added. So if you're the borough manager, if you're the Daniels manager, if you're the Fields manager, you know, I mean, Fields probably whether he's going to play this week or not, you want to pick up Daniel Jones to see what this looks like moving forward. But clearly there's something here. And, you know, you could chalk it up the first week to say, well, we thought Miami was going to be bad. And he just completely blew us away with how he performed, scoring on every possession, you know, in terms of the Colts, the way that he scored the two rushing touchdowns, you know, leaning on Michael Pittman and Tyler Warren. Okay. So there was everything that he could have asked for. And then here comes Denver.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Well, we know Denver's defense. They're going to make him look stupid. And he made them look stupid, you know. And so a 300-yard game gets you another rushing touchdown. So the things that Daniel Jones has done well in. his career, using his legs. You're seeing that. And now you're seeing a guy that's not making the same stupid mistakes. Again, you know, going, spending time in Minnesota, getting better coaching, getting better coaching with the Colts and what Shane Steichen is doing with him. So I think you
Starting point is 00:29:31 got to trust it, you know, at least in the short term, until he turns into a pumpkin. And that may happen and it may happen again you know this week not that i think that the titans defense is one to run away from by any stretch but when you're seeing all these quarterbacks getting hurt and you're seeing some of the poor play from some of the guys of the position like why would you not want to buy into this and i'll go back to something i said in the in the preseason or off season that if let's just say aaron rogers had signed here based on the weapons at the cold tap you know just a guy that can throw the ball like we would be so excited about the situation because the situation on paper is great you know you have this passing attack that just needed somebody to be competent.
Starting point is 00:30:11 And that's what Daniel Jones has been so far. And so I still don't think, like I said yesterday, Adam, I still don't think we've seen the best of it because we haven't seen sort of everybody clicking at once. You know, Warren's been the constant, great, awesome, because we need that at that position. And you had one good game from Michael Pittman and then an okay game from Josh Towns. Imagine if we get sort of like that Browns game that we had in week one, you know, where everybody's getting involved in touches and producing. and then you're seeing Daniel Dones even use his legs on top of that. So I think it's just low-end number one guy for the rest of season.
Starting point is 00:30:44 He's in that category. For this week, I think he's a top-told quarterback. Okay. He had, according to Fantasy Points Data suite, a 97% first-read target rate in week two. The highest percentage of passes that were first-read for quarterback in any game since fantasy points data has been charting those games back to 2021.
Starting point is 00:31:06 This is a tweet from Jacob Gibbs. So he's just kind of running within the confines of the offense and it's working for him. So good job, Daniel Jones. Would you rather have Caleb Williams or Daniel Jones rest of the season? That's great questions.
Starting point is 00:31:23 That is a good question. I'm a little worried about Caleb getting benched at some point. I'm not worried about that with Daniel Jones anymore. I mean, God, I love Caleb this week against the Cowboys, right? This should be a great one. Sure, yeah, I do too.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Yes, for this week if I'm, so if you're the Daniels manager, let's say, 10-team league and both are available, I would go Caleb Williams. All right. Top three running backs, Dave. Top three running backs. I would have Rodriguez one, and these are not great names. Rodriguez one, Woody Marks 2. I guess Monongai is three, but I had a hard time finding running backs that I really. A, were available, and B, could be something significant in the short term.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Jamie, do you like Rodriguez or McNichols? I would go to McNichols first. I just think that based on what he can do as a past protector, they're going to trust him to be on the field more. So the way that I view it is McNichols is going to get the first shot in Echler's role, which is going to change. But Echler's snaps if you want to go that route. and then Rodriguez, I still think, is just the backup to
Starting point is 00:32:32 Jacori Crosky Merritt. The hope would be is that Crosky Merritt starts to get involved in the passing game, but I do think that McNichols is going to be the one that they trust in past protection, as of now. Okay, top three, and Jamie also likes Blake Corum, who will discuss in a bit. Top three wide receivers. You're probably haven't seen the updated version of it. So Rashad White would be second for me just going past the Washington situation because he's a 64% rostered.
Starting point is 00:32:56 And I think if you're going to get double-digit touches, for him because we did not see that in week one, and I don't know how much of that was the groin injury, you know, coming back from that, that he suffered in the preseason. So you got 11 touches, or excuse me, 12 touches, 10 carries and two catches. Like, he can still be in the flex conversation, especially when we start to get in it by weeks if he's doing that. So even take away the touchdown. You know, he ran really well.
Starting point is 00:33:18 He actually ran better than Bucky. All right, wide receivers, Jamie, who are the top three? So I'll go Wondale 1, Tillman, 2, and Shaheed 3. And I think you pretty much intimated earlier that it's close, right? So don't put a huge fad bit on any of these wide receivers. You go Wondale, Tillman, Shaheed. Dave, how about you? What would your order be at wide receiver?
Starting point is 00:33:45 Tillman's still going to be number one, Wondale's second, and there's a clear difference between those two and the other wide receivers that are available. I'd go Romeo Dobbs three as a short-term fix. We know that Christian Watson's still not playing for the next couple of weeks. Jaden Reed's out for a while, Matthew Golden, they're trying to get going. I think Dobbs is just the safe, steady, wide receiver in Green Bay's passing game. And so I'd rather have him than Shaheed, then Franklin. But it's a short-term play, not a long-term play.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Okay. Yeah, I would actually go Wicks over Dobbs if you're looking for the Packers guy to go get because I think we kind of know what Dobbs is. And you're right. I mean, he's going to be on the field a lot. He's going to get opportunities. Hopefully, you know, he gets more targets. But you saw Reed goes down and Wix playing time spikes, target spike, you know, like this is, I think, a guy that has a higher ceiling than what Dobbs can give you.
Starting point is 00:34:38 One of the things the Packers and a lot of offenses do well is they put guys in motion and then they create easy opportunities for those guys. And that was often Jaden Reed. But last week it was Dantavian Wix. He was in motion on 30.6% of his snaps and it led to some easy catches for him. Romeo Dobbs, meanwhile, is almost never in motion. So I don't know if that's too beyond the box story for you, but I did like seeing that from Wix. I mean, Wix had a nice game and good target share in week two. I just, I know who he is and I know he doesn't have reliable hands.
Starting point is 00:35:11 I'd rather go with Dobbs. Yeah, I agree. But I'll use your exact same phrase. I know who Dobbs is too. Like there's just like a cap ceiling for him, unfortunately. Do you feel like that ceiling is there, though, without Reed and without the downfield targets being great for Green Bay? I just think he is who he is.
Starting point is 00:35:30 He's not going to be a guy that gets a ton of opportunities. He's touchdown dependent. Like, Wix can be such a difference maker. Granted, he's got to catch a ball. That's a big part of this. But clearly, clearly he's their guy that they want in this role without read there.
Starting point is 00:35:44 All right. Top tight ends. Dave Richard, who are top three tight ends? It's Joanne Johnson, number one. It's Harold Fanon, number two. Jatavion Sanders, number three. Who are some players you drop? for them?
Starting point is 00:35:57 Well, among tight ends, I think you can move on from, there's a lot of them. Breton Strange, Hunter Henry, Evan Engram, Dalton Kincaid, Dallas Goddard, if he's not back this week, could hit the waiver wire in a few leagues. Mark Andrews is like 96% rostered. You could move on from him. I don't know if you necessarily can do that, but if you can, then by all means, go for it. Okay. Some people are going to want to hang on to Andrews because they know who he's been.
Starting point is 00:36:25 If he's your worst player to drop, you know, we talk about this all the time. Who's the player on your bench who's most expendable? For some people, that could be Andrews. And in those situations, I wouldn't blame you for dropping them based on what we've seen for the last couple of weeks and what we know is coming for the Baltimore offense once Isaiah likely gets healthy. And even if likely gets healthy, I think that just it hurts Andrews chances, but Andrews chances are already muddled because of what we're getting out of DeAndre Hopkins and say Flowers is dominating targets. It's just not working out for Mark Andrews. Now it's time for coverage you can count on, sponsored by Nationwide. Just like your fantasy roster is more than just your offensive starters,
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Starting point is 00:37:37 He said, you don't even have 100 yards. And Jailen Hertz goes, we won the game, basically, dumbass. They're angry. They're going to take it out on the Giants. It's going to be probably pretty ugly for this Giants offense. Yeah, the chiefs are still available in almost 50% of our leagues. So that's one that I like a lot. Yeah, you know something?
Starting point is 00:38:00 I'm not looking forward to watching that game with Heath on Sunday night on the air. That's going to be brutal. What would be worse? You watching that game with Heath or me watching the Hurricanes Gators game with you? Don't upset potential there, but that. Oh, please. Come on. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:20 That was coverage you can count on. Some sort, but I don't think... I don't even think I want to watch the game. That's how this... It's only an eight-point spread. I'm telling you, like the Gators are... They threw five interceptions and barely lost to the number three team in the country. All right, guys.
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Starting point is 00:39:01 You mentioned the Falcons. I have to add them. I didn't have them in there just after. Jamie's saying the Falcons is a little hard to hear them there. Absolutely. Behind the Chiefs, though. Actually, I like the Seahawks. I think they're going to make some plays against the Saints.
Starting point is 00:39:15 The Bucks against Tarot Taylor and the Jets and the Colts. Listen, their defense is playing well too. So there's five defense as you could look at for this week. Chiefs, Falcons, Colts are my top three. Colts get Tennessee. And then kickers, Jamie? Spencer Schrader. He's been very good.
Starting point is 00:39:32 Chris Boswell continues to get the job done. John Parker Romo, who just learned his teammates after the game on Sunday. That was a very funny interview. And then Joey Sly, he's got to be up there in terms of fantasy points amongst kickers. He's got 16 plus in each of the first two games. So the Titans are moving the ball. They're just not scoring touchdowns. All right.
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Starting point is 00:41:25 quarterback okay then Drake May still somebody you want to target Trevor Lawrence we'll see how he does but um if Brian Thomas Jr. can get right then there's still a lot to like there running backs Tutan we mentioned Judkins we mentioned Tray Benson, Brian Robinson, Jr., those are two guys I definitely want a roster. And then Scatavu, you know, just basically with the opportunity of him taking over the Giants job. And I wonder how much the fumble, I know it wasn't credited to him at the end of the game last night from Arryn Hampton, is going to impact playing time. It's just, I mean, this rookie class, with all the hype that they had, we had for them, unfortunately, is not paying off. the first two weeks of the season my goodness you know gentie struggling hampton struggling
Starting point is 00:42:19 henderson struggling like it's been it's been rough harvey's struggling horrible it just sucks um uh the wide receiver is pretty good opportunities for some guys in 10 team leagues you know it apparently people bailed on cooper cup i get it after week one but 84 percent roster for him the two chargers guys are still available in about 17 18 percent of leagues quentin johnston and keenan allen marquis brown again you know see what happens there darnel mooney i expect there's going to be a lot more production coming. And you mentioned Joanne Jennings. And I also would, you know, go back to Khalil Shakir, too.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I know last week was bad, but it was bad for the entire Bill's passing attack. They get Miami this week. Like, there's an easy bounce back potential for Coleman and Shakir as well. Like, it would not be surprising if you're just, you know, like if you miss on Wondale and people are dropping Shakir, like this is the same type of player from a floor perspective. I don't think Shakir does what Wando did last week. I don't know if he has that potential in this offense, but you still want to. to, in my opinion, at least, you know, roster, Khalil Shakir if you can't.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Tight ends, there's a bunch of guys, you know, so. I just want to get it where you don't yell at me that I'm not talking to the microphone. Zach Ertz and Jake Ferguson. I'm sorry, not a bunch of guys. There's two. Zach Ertz and Jake Ferguson. Like, those two guys right now off to such great starts. And Ertz, there was, not Ernst, I'm sorry, I was the theme so much.
Starting point is 00:43:39 But Ertz has been great through the first two weeks this season. And we'll see if Terry McLaren gets going, what that means for Ertz's production. But for right now, I think even with Mariotta coming in to start, Urts will be fine. And Ferguson, you know, I liked him going into week two. He exceeded my expectations, you know, and Dave mentioned it. You know, he's up there right now in terms of, you know, targets in production. Nine catches, 78 yards, all targets last week was pretty fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:44:03 Yeah. Can I, I just add something on Ferguson here. So Chicago's actually been pretty good against tight ends. They faced the Porta and Hawkinson and held them both to less than 30 yards. Brock Wright scored, though. But Chicago's defense is horrible. They just lost Jalen Johnson for the season, not that that's going to necessarily affect their tight end coverage or anything,
Starting point is 00:44:21 but they also lost T.J. Edwards, the linebacker. I don't know the severity there. So on paper, it doesn't look like a great matchup, but it's a, you know, they're going to be throwing a lot probably. But then they got the Packers the week after, and that's the one thing the Packers have been bad at so far, is covering tight ends. Sam Laporta, 79 yards, Zach Earts, and a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:44:38 Ertz, meanwhile, is... I do think, though, for that game, just based on the narrative, Michael Parsons will cover everybody. Well, Ertz is 57% rostered on Yahoo, 50% roster on ESPN. So he's 82% rostered in CBS. But, you know, how about, would you rather have Joanne Johnson, Zach Ertz, Jake Ferguson. How would you rank them? Ertz?
Starting point is 00:45:03 Ferguson, Johnson. Johnson's first for me. I think I'd take Ferguson over Ertz, too. Okay. How about Kyle Pitts in this thing? discussion. Dist and forth. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:17 But he belongs in the discussion. Yeah, but you know what, Dave? Like Kyle Pitts? Zach Earths? None of these guys are available in my league. What about the deep league guys, Dave Richard? Starting a quarterback, you know that Jake Browning is going to be out there in a ton of league's 98% available.
Starting point is 00:45:36 If you can't get your clopies on him, then look for Mac Jones, who's 89% available. I thought Mac Jones looked pretty good. for the 49ers. It's actually shocking that Pearsall didn't have a good game. I know that that was a player that Jamie and I went back and forth on a lot last week. It was weird out, turned out. But Mack Jones really played well, I thought. And so if he's going to continue to get some opportunities, short term, I like him.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Rattler also has played okay through the first two weeks of the season, and I think he's got more staying power than Mack Jones. Chris Rodriguez, Woody Mark, we talked about those guys that were running back. I am still stashing Breschard Smith. in my deeper leagues. He's a rookie running back for the chiefs. And I can just hear, I can hear the rolling of the eyes from everybody out there. Oh, here we go.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Another rookie that the guys are touting. But they've got to find something out of their run game at some point here. I mean, they're still using Cream Hunt almost as much as they're using Isaiah Pacheco. He's a stash. He's somebody in those deeper leagues that is worth stashing. Wide receiver, a lot of names. We can start with Troy Franklin. I talked about him earlier.
Starting point is 00:46:40 He's getting a lot of target volume. I don't think he's going away in Denver. I think he's a pretty good receiver. Elico Manor, Tontavian Wix, Isaac Tesla, Tori Horton. Jalen Coker is still worth a stash, too. He's halfway home from his IR stint. He's going to eventually come back for the Panthers and be a good short area target. He's a big slot for them, 91% available.
Starting point is 00:47:03 And Christian Watson is talking like he's going to be back sooner than later. He's available in 92% of leagues. You could stash him, especially if we've got those IR spots. And then at tight end, there really isn't that much. It's just, it's to Tavion Sanders. The other tight ends that are available in deep leagues I wouldn't go after. Okay, more names coming shortly. Team name Tuesday real quick.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Boswell, that ends well. Very good. I never know how to pronounce the name of this old video game, but Ninja Jaden. Is it Gaden or Giden? I always said Gideon. Gaden? It's guided. Positive.
Starting point is 00:47:35 It's guided. Okay. So Ninja Jaden is a terrible team name. Thank you for playing. Loser. Bill and Tetz, parentheses. his mom doesn't like it. Excellent adventure.
Starting point is 00:47:45 A swift kick in the booty. Remember when Dave mispronounced booty's name for some reason on Sunday? That was so strange. Remember? It was two days ago. This happened sometimes. I know, but you made all the booty jokes. Rishi Rice and Beans got me tooting.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Very good. A little elaborate, but very good. All right, I think I want to save the Monday night games for the very end of the show. including our thoughts on Omari and Hampton. I want to get into the waiver wire a little bit more. First, give me a 0 to 10 on the dropometer. Caleb Johnson, 78% rostered. One billion.
Starting point is 00:48:25 Yeah. Yeah. I'd go lower than a billion, but yeah. Isaiah Pacheco. Zero. He's going to have a big game this weekend. No, he's not. It's a Joe Boo week, though.
Starting point is 00:48:35 If he doesn't, it's a problem. I mean, the run defense is so bad. It's a great matchup. but just worried it's going to be Kareem Hunt. They also have yet to play with the lead. Matthew, will you stop counting the Giants out? I mean, it's right in front of me. Matthew Golden.
Starting point is 00:48:51 We should do some sort of bet, like Gators, Cain's, Chiefs, Giants. Why would I, why would you even get involved in Chiefs Giants? Are you just saying Adam is making bets across the board? I'm very nervous about the Gators game, okay? Oh, yeah. You should really be shaking. They're good. They just keep beating themselves.
Starting point is 00:49:16 They're not good. Well, that's coaching. Well, yeah. Matthew Golden, drop o meter. That's what happened to the Cains for two years, and then they figured out how to call games. Two and ten-team redraft leagues. I didn't hear the-12-team league.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Drop-O-Meter for Matthew Golden. I'm still mad about the Cains blowing that game against Georgia Tech two years ago. It's a zero. Trevor Lawrence. zero I don't know man I mean he's got Houston
Starting point is 00:49:47 and San Francisco in Kansas City and Seattle coming up I would say in a 12 team league he is a 4 Kishon booty I would prefer to stash him 5 Stefan Diggs
Starting point is 00:50:07 zero three DeMario Douglas 10. Eight. It was very strange. He barely played. I mentioned this yesterday.
Starting point is 00:50:16 They basically were two tight ends for a lot of the game, barely went three receivers. It was so weird. They went two tight ends and they didn't throw to Henry very much at all. Yeah. And I don't know why they didn't try attacking the cornerbacks even more of the dolphins. They really wanted to get that run game going. Did you hear Vables on his radio show in New England, wherever in Massachusetts? wherever he was, wherever he is.
Starting point is 00:50:43 Probably the same place. About the Ramandre catch? No. So he said that play was designed for Trayvion. They ran in practice for Henderson. He said it was like they were struggling in practice. They ran the play. He hit the play.
Starting point is 00:50:57 And the whole, you know, tenor of practice changed. Everybody was excited. I don't know what I didn't do it for him in the game. Henderson had a brutal game pass protection. Terrible. He really struggled. Yeah, that was supposed to be a strength. matters for Steventon moving for it sucks uh Hollywood brown dropometer you guys said you
Starting point is 00:51:15 don't really want to drop him I think he's pretty dropable if we're worthy coming back let's put him out of five but it's it's a zero if worthy is out it's a five if if worthy plays and it could be a 10 a week from now okay yeah so let's be patient with the practice reports for the chiefs hunter henry nine uh four t j hockinson You can move on from Henry to one of those guys pretty easily. Yeah, I'm not dropping Henry for Jatavian Sanders yet, though. Yeah, I mean, the disappointing thing for Henry was that Austin Hooper was so much more involved in week two than he was in week one. T.J. Hawkinson.
Starting point is 00:51:56 No, not yet. May have a better quarterback now. I have Hawkinson in two leagues, and I want to sit him. I don't know that I'll drop him, but I definitely will try to pick up someone else. All right. waiver wire the shallow league guys Caleb Williams we're I'm assuming you guys like Caleb a lot this week against Dallas
Starting point is 00:52:15 top 12 quarterback yeah Drake May you like him against Pittsburgh top 12 but uh top 15 and then there's Lawrence against Houston not a top 12 quarterback okay
Starting point is 00:52:31 add in this order Daniel Jones 1 for James Jamie's order Jake Browning Bryce Young No, Rogers is three. Aaron Rogers, and then Bryce Young? Mm-hmm. All right, Rogers is three because he's getting New England.
Starting point is 00:52:48 After that, he gets Minnesota, which has been kind of an interesting match-up. But Young, you know, nice comeback effort yesterday or Sunday through 55 passes. So where's it, if Aaron Rogers is your third priority on waivers and Bryce Young is fourth, where are they in the rankings this week? Jones is a top 12 quarterback. Browning is just outside. Rogers, I believe, is 12. Wow. Rogers is 12th.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Wow. Okay. Bryce Young. Bryce Young is near the bottom for this week. But the next four games, total, in totality, the schedule is good. Atlanta, New England, Miami, Dallas. Yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:53:36 It's a very good schedule for Bryce Young. You got Tua at Buffalo. That's a Thursday game, right? Don't love him this week, but the next two games are good. Next two games are Carolina. No, Jets and Carolina. Matthew Stafford. Matthew Stafford's thrown for 245 and 298 yards in two games.
Starting point is 00:53:58 He's got three touchdown passes at Philadelphia this week, which can't be great, right? No. No. And then the Colts. Sam Darnold against the Saints His schedule also coming up very favorable Mm-hmm Mm-hmm
Starting point is 00:54:12 Saints Cardinals Next two games for Sam Darnold They're gonna try to be a run heavy team Russell which is not a surprise Russell Wilson gets the Chiefs this week then So the orders change a little bit So this is where the backups come in Oh like the Mariotas of the world
Starting point is 00:54:29 Yep Tarad So you'd rather have mariotta than russell wilson assuming mariotta's starting uh i have wents first just because of the potential longevity okay mariotta's not even guaranteed to play this week just keep that right and you have browning first just in case anyone got confused browning is and and mac jones too like i mean listen this is now uh i think four of his last seven going back to his time with jacksville 21 or more fantasy points so
Starting point is 00:55:03 he's going to run the system. I mean, look, he's going to give you Kyle Shanahan quality numbers if you're just looking for what he can't do. And I don't think the Cardinals' defense is one of the fair. The Cardinals' defense might be without all three of their starting corners. And their pass rush
Starting point is 00:55:19 is good. It's not great. Cardinals have seen 101 pass attempts in two games. It's insane. So, yeah, so Mac Jones has Arizona. Then he has Jacksonville. It's really pretty good if he keeps that job for the next couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:55:35 Do you expect, you know, 18 or more fantasy points from Mariotta if he plays this week against the Raiders, Wenz against the Bengals, Terad Taylor at Tampa Bay. Marioita, yes. The other two right at that number. Taylor a little bit lower. But Mario, like you said, the- Wentz is right at that number, maybe a little bit below Marioada after that, Tarad after that. You mentioned what Mario did in this offense last year.
Starting point is 00:56:01 He's going to use his legs. And I don't think this Raiders defense, yes, they've played well. But they're now short week cross-country. I don't think it's a great setup for them. Yeah, it's quite a trip. I think it's a great setup for Bill. Hmm. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:18 No mention of Michael Pennix gets Carolina this week. Any interest there? I would mention Pennix. I think that he had a tough game against Minnesota on the road. I think he deserves a little bit of slack for that. And the Carolina matchup should be favorable for him. The only thing I want to see is he's okay.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Which Pennix shows up because when he had to make plays in week one, he used his legs. He took advantage of Bijan in whatever, however, Robinson in the passing game. Mr. Robinson. And then they ran the ball so effectively in week two
Starting point is 00:56:54 and Pennix as a fantasy quarterback wasn't great. And so again, small sample size. But in the three starts last year and the two starts so far this year, he's got one say pretty amazing game one pretty good game and three just kind of game managing
Starting point is 00:57:08 and I don't know how much of having to go out and win the game he certainly could you know in terms of you know making plays with his arm but I think he's just kind of in the mix with all these other guys
Starting point is 00:57:19 as opposed to standing out above them and that's what took me just so long doing the waiver wire show yesterday is like doing the notes you say he's in the mix there's so many guys in the startable mix, you know,
Starting point is 00:57:33 that it could just, it could be this way every week where you could go to the waiver wire and find a quarterback you like just based on the matchup. I don't know how it's going to turn out. If Aaron Rogers goes out this week and has a big game against New England,
Starting point is 00:57:43 then we're just going to be streaming guys against New England all year. We're going to be streaming guys against Dallas, streaming guys against Chicago. And there are a lot of just really good quarterbacks potentially in the NFL this year. And it's going to, it's going to be this like this. It could be like this every week.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Maybe the dust will settle and it won't be like this. But right now it's, you know, So we should save this conversation for next July, and we'll see how Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen and hopefully everybody stays healthy and the guys that were drafted at the top. This is the one position you can survive an injury. Yeah. And so you lose Joe Burrow, it sucks because there's not somebody you're going to find off waivers that's going to be Joe Burrow. I'll end, if you want to end the conversation there, I get it. You're not going to find Joe Burrow on waivers.
Starting point is 00:58:30 But you are going to potentially find Sam Donald or Baker Mayfield or in this year, Daniel Jones, or maybe Jake Browning, or maybe somebody, whoever you think it's going to be in this range. And do you want to invest early in a quarterback? That's a question you have to ask yourself. Yeah. All right. Let's go to the running backs. Cam Scataboo, 81% rostered and Bejal Tootin, 75% rostered. These guys are making some good progress in their backfields.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Trey Benson and Brian Robinson, Jr. are obviously high in handcuffs, but Benson's also fairly involved on a weekly basis. And then you've got the commander situation, Jamie favors McNichols, Dave favors Chris Rodriguez, but they have Giacori Kroski Merritt. We're hoping that he's the guy that just excels here. Blake Corum. Blake Corum has a role in Shaw McVeigh wants it to be more of a maybe two-thirds kind of split in terms of the snaps.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Do you want the quote again? Sure. Yeah, this is what Sean McVeigh said about the Rams backfield, Blake Corum, with five carries, and he scored a touchdown at Tennessee. McVeigh said he was really impressed with what Quorum did. And then here's a full quote. I was pleased with Blake. He's explosive. He's a good football player. I have a lot of trust in him. And then we'll continue to see that moving forward. So I thought that was good today. And then you got Rashad. He played 31% of the snaps. He actually had the edge inside the five over Kyron, four of seven snaps. inside the five was that throughout the course of the game or just at the end of the course yeah that's the whole game no but what he's saying because he scored that touchdown super late in the game i don't know if it was he got most of his snaps right yeah like what do you
Starting point is 01:00:10 have the breakdown of the first three quarters of those yeah sure i can get that just give me a second all right rashad white is another guy you could add taj spears could be coming back in a couple of weeks tyler algir 48 and just while you're there like if you do not need a running back and have an open roster spot with no IR. Stash him. And that's how I feel about Christian Kirk. Hopefully he'll start practicing. But I feel like he could have the most staying power
Starting point is 01:00:38 of these wide receivers that we're talking about. Obviously, you can't count on him for this week. But good grief do they need a number two wide receiver. And maybe he can play one back. One of the two. What did you say? Or an offensive line. Yeah, or a running back.
Starting point is 01:00:51 I still think the buck. I think the bucks let him score. at the end there. I love any time I get to use one of your gifs. Miles Sanders is whatever. He's four or five carries. First two games scored a touchdown. What about Kareem Hunt?
Starting point is 01:01:08 Any interest in picking him up? Sure. Yeah. If he doesn't score, you're not going to be happy that you've got him. I guess if you're stashing him in case Pacheco gets benched or hurt, and Breschard Smith never becomes anything and the chiefs do nothing else at running back, that seems kind of narrow.
Starting point is 01:01:30 I'd be more inspired by some other players. I've got your Kairn number, by the way, James. Go. First three quarters, 68% of the snaps. No, what about inside the five? What about inside the five? Inside the five for the first three quarters.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Yeah, we were just wondering if Rashad White, or sorry, if Blake Corum. You're at three of four snaps inside the five through the first three quarters. Okay, thank you. Mystery solved. Wow. Wow. Kyle Menangai is the clear number two running back right now for the Bears, and he played
Starting point is 01:02:04 about, I think, a third, 40 percent of the snaps, and he had eight touches. Shallow leagues in wide receiverville. Chris Godwin, could be back soonish. You know, we were expecting about a four-week absence. He started practicing. Cooper Cup. He started watching Abuka perform, and he's like, hey, you know, my ankle feels okay.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Cooper Cup, nice bounce back there. So if Cooper Cup were available and Joanne Jennings were available, and Scadaboo and Bejal Tootin were available, who you go, of those four names. I'll throw Godwin in there. Godwin, Cup, Tootin, Scataboo, Joanne Jennings. Who's your favorite? Tootin, by a long way.
Starting point is 01:02:43 Yep. Followed by? Jennings right now. Jennings over Godwin. I'm not believing in Cup. And I probably go Scatibu running back. I don't know why I'm scatibou. I probably go Scatibu after Jenner.
Starting point is 01:02:58 Scadabababoo? Yeah, I would go Scatibu over Cup too. Kalil Shakir, they didn't throw much against the Jets. But, you know, Josh Palmer is a guy that is, has a one more target than Shakir. If you look at the Bill's targets through three games, or through two games, they've only played two. 14 for Coleman, 12 for Palmer, 11 for Shakir, 10 for Kincaid. And obviously the views of Coleman v. Palmer are much different. But another guy is kind of a deep league guy, Josh Palmer, 20% rostered.
Starting point is 01:03:28 All right. So the wide receiver priorities are Wondale Robinson for Jamie. Cedric Tillman, Rashid, Troy Franklin, Jamie and Dave disagree on which Packers wide receiver to prioritize. Jamie likes Wicks a little better than Dobbs. Dave prefers Dobbs. There is Christian Kirk and Ehrlich, Iowmanner. Tori Horton, Hunter Renfro
Starting point is 01:03:51 But with Tillman You know Would you if I How much is the The potential of a quarterback change Changing things for Tillman If I told you Flacco We're going to keep starting
Starting point is 01:04:06 Would he be ahead of Wondell Robinson? No I get let me Let me Counter your question with a question How long is Russell Wilson starting? The whole the whole season.
Starting point is 01:04:19 That's a good call because I think Dart will be more aggressive than Russ. Although, look at how Wandao was used last week. That was pretty impressive. I think it's not just the quarterback. It's he was 93 catches
Starting point is 01:04:34 last year and 140 targets. Like, dable's going to give him chances to get volume. For Wando Robinson, this was his career best game. 142 yards. He had never had more than 100. And also 16.2 yard a dot in his entire career his previous career high was 11.5 yard a dot so he's if they could use
Starting point is 01:04:55 him downfield a little bit more that'd be great but i think it was just a product of the cowboys playing this pathetic zone defense the entire game and the giants and no pass rush uh but yeah again if thomas comes back you've talked about this quite a bit in the last you know month of what this offense does scoring wise and let's just say his a dot improves by marginal not to what it was against the cowboys but just a little bit better and now his six for 50 becomes six for 60 six for 70 like we're talking about a very easy number of three ppr receiver on a week to week basis yeah but i think personally that christian kirk is is a better version of wanda l robinson but obviously that's that's assuming you don't have to start one of them because
Starting point is 01:05:40 you know kirk's not playing right now but i don't know i hope i hope kirk is good for you man you really love this guy. I mean, I don't. I don't really love him, but I don't really love Wondell Robinson, you know, but I think Robinson is 10 and a half PPR points per game. I mean, he's going to be in the Giants Hall of Fame. Safe floor. I mean, Tommy DeVito is going to be in the Giants Hall of Fame. I think if you're just, if you're looking at the list on YouTube and you're reading it and you're listening to it, the names are Wondell Robinson, Cedric Tillman, Rishici, Troy Franklin, Don Tamey and Wix. The other names, aside from Wondell Robinson, almost to a man, have more upside because of what they can do from a touchdown perspective, from what they've done in
Starting point is 01:06:21 their careers, from maybe their quarterback situation, like there's a lot of ways to sort of look at this. I'm sort of a little bit diving into the unknown here because it's two games of Russell Wilson. The targets have been constant. So it's 18 targets through two games. That is a carryover from last year. He had 140 targets. Then you have what Russ does for Robinson, at least in a two-game both sides. One game was exactly the same Wondell Robinson in week one. That's the exact guy you got a year ago. Exactly. Game two, you got a different version
Starting point is 01:06:54 in Wondell Robinson. And so can we get somewhere in between, probably still closer to week one, but can we get somewhere in between where there's a few yards down the field a little bit more? So again, that 5 for 40, that 6 for 50,
Starting point is 01:07:12 that 11 PPR range that he just lives in his entire career, now becomes 12 or 13. I'm willing to take the chance on that. Sure. All right. I'm looking to see what his previous high was an A dot. I just told you.
Starting point is 01:07:26 It was 11.5. It was 16. I'm sorry. Yeah, it's okay. 16.2 yard A dot. That's only the second game of his entire career with an A dot over 10 yards. Usually it's like six yards. So he was used very differently, Wondell Robinson.
Starting point is 01:07:42 I will go with him over Christian Kirk. I think I'm being too optimistic here because the, The Texans are a mess. They're just an absolute mess. We're not going to have time to talk about those games today. We'll talk about them tomorrow. But obviously, the offensive line is so bad. And they have no run game.
Starting point is 01:07:57 And I think that hurts them. They're in obvious passing situations. And when you have a bad offensive line, it's not good. So Christian Kirk's not going to fix that. And you saw what Damika Ryan said about mixing last week, right? No. He basically was talking about him in past tense when he said what he's done for this team. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:14 He may well may not play this year. All right, Elic Isle Manor, you know, whatever. He's not a bad option. He's got 13 targets in two games and gets the Colts who actually been pretty good against wide receivers except for Troy Franklin. All right, let's go to the tight ends. And just, sorry, Josh Downs.
Starting point is 01:08:37 Would you pick up Josh Downs or Wondale, Tillman, Shaheed, et cetera? I think if you're picking up Josh. you're doing it with the hope that he becomes what he was a year ago and he certainly can get there I mean you know you're you're looking at again signs of life in the in week two but until we see it I think there's just more options with those you're going to see Josh downs dropped in a lot of least question for my chat but I would go Wondale over him because oh sorry no I mean downs has a Jonathan Taylor problem there's definitely going to be some games coming up where Jonathan Taylor just continues to dominate and really restricts just how much they throw the ball.
Starting point is 01:09:16 Colts aren't going to need to throw the ball as much, and that'll hurt Josh Downs already. So I'd rather have Wondale. But I do think that Downs is very talented. At tight end, the shallow league guys are Kyle Pitts, Dalton Kincaid, who's got to be, I mean, we're not really excited about him, right? But he is playing the Dolphins.
Starting point is 01:09:34 You are looking at the wrong version of the call. Okay. So it's Jake Ferguson and Zach Ertz? Mm-hmm. All right. And Dallas Goddard, if he were available, how much do you like him? I don't. All right.
Starting point is 01:09:47 And we don't really like Kincaid, and you don't really love Pitts. You'd rather have Joanne Johnson. And Harold Fanon. Okay, Harold Fanon, five targets. He gets Green Bay this week, and they have been bad against tight ends. Is Harold Fanon a top 12 tight end for you guys? He's just on the cusp. I mean, this is a tough matchup against Green Bay across the board for the Browns.
Starting point is 01:10:10 But you've got to like the usage. I like the fact that his route participation increased a little bit. They clearly want to get him going. And how amazing would it be if they traded David Najoko? To get Najoko to maybe a place where he could still be the guy that we hoped he would be, and then Fanon just gets unleashed. So you've heard a little bit of like, you know, maybe he's on a trade block. I don't know where he would go to make some most sense,
Starting point is 01:10:33 but it's just hard not to buy into what Fanon could become. Go back to his college home. back to Miami for David Nijoku that'll fix it Darren Waller by the way
Starting point is 01:10:48 I think has a chance to at least practice then they list them as limited not easiest $5 million ever made probably not gonna
Starting point is 01:10:57 play on a short week but then there's by the way do you do you drop Nijoku for Joan Johnson and or Harold Fannin
Starting point is 01:11:05 yep I definitely do it for Johnson you could probably talk me in to do it for Fannin Isaiah likely is someone that Jamie's been talking about stashing and Dave's been banging the drum for Jatavion Sanders.
Starting point is 01:11:19 Any interest in a 49ers tight end against the Cardinals? I think the fact that Farrell got the touchdown is not great. Tom just had five targets, but yeah, I mean, we're talking deep leagues here. Yeah, deepest of tight end premium leagues. Oh, I know. There is one. George Kittle. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:11:40 He said interest in the 49. Tenants, yeah. Can I get killed? Yeah, I'd take it. DSTs, chiefs are at the Giants. They do have Baltimore the following week, so it's the one-week thing. Falcons get the... Panthers.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Panthers. Thank you. Seattle gets the Saints. Seattle's been very good so far defensively. They have four sacks and four interceptions. They get the Saints, then the Cardinals. So Seattle might be a two-week thing for you. Tampa Bay against the Jets.
Starting point is 01:12:08 They haven't been so great so far against Falcons and Texans. they get the Jets, and then the Eagles, that's Tampa Bay, and the Colts facing the Titans. One great game for the Colts, one bad game. Titans have been a pretty good matchup so far. Kickers, Spencer Schrader, Chris Boswell, John Parker, Romo, and Joey Sly. All right, we're going to talk about Marion Hampton and anything else, Brock Bowers walking around, running around with that knee brace on tomorrow's show. I'm going to leave everybody with a really bad beat for me in the IDP League, where I have now
Starting point is 01:12:41 lost two games by a combined five points. And yesterday, it was Omari and Hampton for Scott Fish versus Devin White linebacker for the Raiders for me. And Hampton was having such a bad game and that he fumbled at the end. And we were tied. Oh, no, I was down by one point. And then Devin White got a tackle and we were tied. And I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to salvage this.
Starting point is 01:13:07 I'm going to get a tie. And then they changed the fumble to Justin Herbert. instead of Omari and Hampton, and I lost by two points. We have a similar situation in the podcast league where right now we're sitting with a percentage point edge with Hampton. So if they change the fumble, I just that correction, we lose.
Starting point is 01:13:27 Oh. And I have one league where I lost 11.02 to 111. Oh, my God. I listen, stack corrections, baby. Stack corrections. Yeah, I have that in that league. It's my longest running league, and they think I always do all the write-ups on the draft recaps and all stuff.
Starting point is 01:13:47 So I sent a text this morning. I said it's time to call on that favor for stack correction. Wow. All right. Look at us. Me, Heath, Jamie, and Dave are a combined seven and one in the podcast, pending a stack direction. All right, folks. Have a great day, everybody.
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