Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire! Keaton Mitchell, Demario Douglas, QB Replacements (11/07 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever else you listen to podcasts With a lot of talented players on bye, you'r...e going to need the waiver wire this week! We tell you the top options on the waiver wire (2:30) which is headlined by Keaton Mitchell and Demario Douglas. If you need a quarterback, we've got great options there as well. Who should you drop for Mitchell (6:15)? If Khalil Herbert is available, is he the top priority? We've also got a schedule alert (9:15) and some FAB talk (13:40) ... News and notes (17:25) and the top three players at each position: QB (21:30); RB (26:00); WR (28:15); TE (29:40); DST (32:00) and Kicker. We discuss Baker Mayfield, Josh Dobbs, Tyler Boyd, Jonnu Smith, Logan Thomas and more. We've also got options in shallow leagues (36:15) including Russell Wilson and Tyler Allgeier and deep league guys (38:30) including Ty Chandler and Cade Otton ... Recapping Chargers-Jets (41:55) and then taking a longer look at the waiver wire (50:30) with players to add at each position ... Email us at fantasyfootball@cbsi.com SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:37 Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Good morning, everyone. Double-digit weeks. We're in week 10. How about that? And it's the waiver wire. And it's Adam, Dave, and Jamie here telling you who to pick up. You know, I'm in the Thanksgiving mood now.
Starting point is 00:01:56 We're just a few weeks away. I'm going to say this week's waiver wire is Brussels sprouts. It's Brussels sprouts. You know, look, not a lot of people love brussel sprouts but some do and the thing is it's brussel sprouts at a dinner where there's only like two or three sides because all of the best side dishes are on a buy this week so you have to eat the brussel sprouts in a lot of cases is anybody is is this analogy working at all is this brussel Is this Brussels sprouts with bacon and balsamic and other stuff in there to kind of dress it up and make it taste good? Or is this like boiled Brussels sprouts?
Starting point is 00:02:34 Nothing else. You tell me. What do you think? It's boiled Brussels sprouts. You're going to go and you're going to sit through this meal and then you're going to hope that there's a McDonald's open on Thanksgiving night that you could pull through and pick up some food. I have a question, Jamie. Yeah. Why should – well, it's a demand.
Starting point is 00:02:53 Tell people why they need to listen to this show today. I don't want to crap on the waiver wire too much, right? This is an important week with the bye weeks. I mean, that's the reason is that you're down the Chiefs, you're down the chiefs you're down the eagles you're down the dolphins and you're down the rams and those are a lot of great players that you have to replace so while there might not be a oh my god grab this guy and start him right away he's awesome spend all your fab there are certainly several plug and play players that you may be looking at as flex options quarterback and tight end you may be looking at as flex options, quarterback and tight end. You may be looking at a starters.
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Starting point is 00:04:01 Insurance designed for life So Jamie Who are the top three priorities this week? No one. Don't listen to the show. The top three guys are Keaton Mitchell, with the hope that he can become something for Baltimore. Mario Douglas, once again, because he's going to be the best receiver for the Patriots moving forward. And then I'm going to put a quarterback third, but I'm not sold on the quarterback. As I told you this morning, when I called you, I was like, I don't know who's the, who's
Starting point is 00:04:35 the best quarterback, but I think Baker Mayfield, the safest, just taking on the Titans and what he gives you. So you can put Will Levis in that spot. You can put Joshua Dobbs in that spot. But all three of those quarterbacks, I think, are worth looking at with the chance of helping you replace a Mahomes, a Hurts, or a Tua. Who's your favorite quarterback rest of season between Dobbs, Mayfield, and Levis?
Starting point is 00:04:58 If you told me right now Jefferson's coming back, it would be Dobbs. Agreed. Wow. It's the only reason why. That and the fact that he's going to continue to run and Baker doesn't run I I get it with the higher floor with Mayfield but I I think I'd rather have Dobbs than Mayfield I just I would hope that if you're picking these guys up and you don't need a quarterback because most of the leagues I think we're players that were fantasy
Starting point is 00:05:21 managers have needed quarterbacks these guys are are probably rostered. Maybe not so much. Dobbs was probably dropped after he was traded. Yep. But I think if you are 10 team league, you know, shallow 12 team league that if you're just looking for the one week replacement, I probably would go with the floor as opposed to the ceiling.
Starting point is 00:05:37 I would too. That's fair. Yeah. There's another player out there, 67% rostered, who was a must, who's emerging as a must startstart running back, and that's Khalil Herbert. I want to talk about him in a little bit
Starting point is 00:05:48 because he has a great matchup this week, and then it's absolutely terrible after that, and he could be in a three-way split. We don't know. If he's even playing. The window's open. He's not guaranteed to play. Yeah, they're playing Thursday. So he may not even play this week. Okay, so he's a guy that you could look at
Starting point is 00:06:04 too in shallower leagues. So it's Keaton Mitchell, DeMario Douglas, and Baker Mayfield for Jamie. How about you, Dave? Who are your top three priorities? I'd put Mitchell first, and it's just with the hope that he becomes something, and I've got notes on him. Zach Charbonnet would be second, but he's only available in about a third of CBS Sports League's 35%. I think he just barely makes the threshold. There's some interesting notes on him. And then if you need a quarterback rest of season, it's Dobbs. I'd put him ahead of any of the wide receivers that are out there. And I liked a Mario Douglas. I think he's got potential to be better than what we saw in week number nine, but he plays the Colts good matchup.
Starting point is 00:06:41 Then he's on by, do you really want to roll with him? Rest of season? It's just, it, the, the problem is that if it's not tomorrow, Douglas, it's one of the tight ends. None of the tight ends are really amazing. There's a couple that have potential. I think it's Douglas third for me by default. If you don't need a quarterback. Yeah. I kind of want him rest of season. I mean, I'm not expecting much, but I'm expecting like what Michael Thomas has been before this past week. Great. Great comp. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:09 Well, I mean, look, you can say that, Dave. I know, but I feel like we can find a guy like that on the waiver wire almost every week. Like Tyler Boyd's out there in 38% of leagues. You can pencil him in for 10 PPR points pretty much every single game. I do think there's potential for more, though, for Douglas, just based on what the offense needs and,
Starting point is 00:07:26 you know, who's missing. And so it's kind of like the same thing with Hunter Henry. You know, if you're talking about tight ends, you know, we just saw a game without Kendrick Bourne and both those guys had good to okay.
Starting point is 00:07:36 You know, average to above average production, depending on what you were looking for. I mean, Henry was good. You'll take that from it. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:07:42 so it's yes, the buys coming up. Yes. It's Mac Jones. Yes. It's the Patriots, but there's still opportunity for volume. And'll take that from a time. Yeah, you know, so it's, yes, the buy is coming up. Yes, it's Mac Jones. Yes, it's the Patriots. But there's still opportunity for volume, and I think that's hard to overlook. They have a pretty good schedule remaining, just being honest. Let's talk about who we would drop for Keaton Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Ravens running back coming off a big game here. There's going to be a split. John Harbaugh said there's going to be a split in the backfield. There always is. Yeah, you got to figure Edwards most likely to get the goal line work. there's going to be a split. John Harbaugh said there's going to be a split in the backfield. There always is. Yeah. It's you got to figure Edwards most likely to get the goal line work and maybe even justice Hill more likely to get the passing downs work, but Keaton Mitchell's pretty electric here.
Starting point is 00:08:15 So I think Roshan Johnson, easy drop, right? Yes. What about Tajay Spears? If he's your worst guy and you want to speculate, I'd rather speculate on a Ravens running back with speed than a Titans running back with speed.
Starting point is 00:08:32 That's a tough one for me because I think if you were to say right now, who's got the more clear path to being a featured guy? If there's an injury in Tennessee, it might take two injuries in Baltimore for that to happen, right? I'm not sure. Yeah, maybe not. There's things going on with Justice Hill that make me a little more optimistic on Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:08:51 I guess that makes sense. I don't want to wait for an injury. They've been using Gus as their feature back for two games going into this one. It was Justice Hill who played the most snaps with Lamar last week against Seattle. The Seattle game, though, I don't really worry about. I mean, that game was
Starting point is 00:09:09 in hand early. Does it matter to you who played the most snaps in garbage time? Not with Lamar Jackson. It wasn't Justice Hill? It was Justice Hill. 17 of 19 snaps with Huntley. Right. I'm just worried about passing. I'm just, you know, we talk about trap backs, right? And Keaton Mitchell, if he's not going to catch passes and he's not going to score the touchdowns unless they're from 40 or 60 yards out, basically. But yeah, but I understand the appeal. Would you drop Jaleel McLaughlin, who a few weeks ago is basically Keaton Mitchell? Would you drop Jaleel McLaughlin for Keaton Mitchell. Yes. I would if he's your worst player.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Same thing as Tajay Spears. These are guys I don't want to cut, but let's just say my team's loaded. I've got good depth. If he's my worst player and I want Mitchell, then I would do it. Obviously drop Bijan Robinson for him because Bijan's hopeless.
Starting point is 00:09:58 I mean, Arthur Smith would. No, don't do that. But he wouldn't drop Tyler Algier. He can't drop Tyler Algier. The Rams running back, not Kyron Williams, but the other two Rams running backs for Keaton Mitchell? If you're not playing them anytime soon, yes. Because it's really a one-week window that they still have left.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Sure. Yeah. Okay. All right, let's talk more about the Brussels Sprouts here. But even better than the Brussels Sprouts is the morning buzz on CBS Sports HQ. You probably didn't see it because you were watching that thriller last night, but the Knicks won and I'm happy about that. If I want to watch highlights, I'm going to turn on morning buzz on HQ.
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Starting point is 00:10:53 exactly what you want as a sports fan. It's great. Schedule alert. I got a player with a great schedule and a player with a bad schedule. Jackson Smith and Jigba. It's kind of weird with him. What is a great schedule for him? Washington, for example, 29th Jigba. It's kind of weird with him. What is a great schedule for him? Washington, for example, 29th against wide receivers. It's a good matchup for a guy who runs extremely short routes and gets targeted in short area all the time.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Not really. We know what Washington is. But just looking on paper, six of Jackson Smith and Jigba's last eight games. And when I give these stats, I'm pretty much never including week 18. If I do, I'll let you know. So six of his last eight games are against teams that rank 26th or worse against wide receivers. So that is the same for Metcalf and Lockett. Now, the caveat is that two of those or three of those matchups are San Francisco and Philadelphia. Maybe you think they're going to be better. But on paper, the Seahawks wide receivers have great matchups going forward. And JSN is 67% rostered. Another guy who's 67% rostered is Khalil Herbert. If he plays this week, it's a favorable matchup. If you're going to trust them, I don't know that you would. But then after that, it's Detroit. They're just brutal against
Starting point is 00:12:00 running backs. Minnesota, their seventh, Then a bye week. Then Detroit again. And then Cleveland. It's a little bit better after that, but that's really tough for Khalil Herbert. So in my mind, like going into the week before I looked at the schedule, and I'm sorry, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:17 I feel like it's not as easy as just like I should look at the schedule for everyone. But because I said beat the waiver wire with him on Friday, if I saw Khalil Herbert, he might be my top pickup if I saw him in the league. Oh, he should be. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:30 This schedule terrifies me and the whole situation. I mean, yes, the schedule should be somewhat of a concern. I mean, this is the point in the year where one injury can make the entire difference for a defense. Yeah, so if you saw Khalil Herbert... If you're telling me my choices right now are I'm first on waivers, and it's Herbert, Mitchell, Douglas, Charbonnet, whatever you want to put the order of,
Starting point is 00:12:57 I would take my chances with Herbert being the lead running back for the Bears for the rest of the season. Okay, and how about if you saw there's like six tight ends who are about 80% rostered and obviously all of them will not be available, but one or two might be. So we're talking commit and Ferguson. You know what? Let me just pull up the list. McBride and the joke.. Njoku, Ferguson, Schultz, Komet, McBride. That's five tight ends that are right around 80% rostered. Do any of them feel like
Starting point is 00:13:31 if they were available, the absolute must-add guy over Khalil Herbert? Yes. Yeah. Who? Oh, over Herbert? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:42 I guess I'm going to say no because if you're telling me that these guys are available, there's probably two or three of them that are available. I don't know going to say no, because if you're telling me that these guys are available, there's probably two or three of them that are available. I don't know. Sometimes it's like one slips through the cracks. Okay, so if it's the choice of getting Herbert first and then maybe coming back and getting Hunter Henry,
Starting point is 00:13:55 I would do that. Overtaking Komet and then hoping for, I don't know, Antonio Gibson to be the running back you get second. Yeah. I'm curious how you feel about that group of tight ends. Njoku, Ferguson, Schultz, Komet, McBride. Sounds like a lot of guys that are low-end starters the rest of the season. Yeah, or at least right now.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Who's your favorite? Komet. I might go Schultz just with the matchup this week and the fact that he doesn't he's already passes by commit still has his buy coming up okay all right that's got a quarterback coming back he's already been connecting with the quarterback who's in there now so even if fields doesn't play i i feel like he's the number two target in the offense schultz is good too like we we should have really been on top of Schultz more last week because the Texans, they can't run the ball.
Starting point is 00:14:48 I don't know if they're miraculously going to be able to run the ball when Damian Pierce comes back, but if they were, I think that would hurt Dalton Schultz quite a bit. Yeah, actually, I'm going to change my answer. I'm going to go Ferguson one, Schultz two, Kemet three. He's up there. I think Schultz, I think we were right to be skeptical because as soon as Tank Dell came back the previous week,
Starting point is 00:15:06 Schultz's production cratered. But it was just a bad game for Stroud, and last week was a great game for Stroud. I think Stroud versus the Bengals is going to be a fun little debate this week. But we have more time for that a little bit later. Talking fab here, how much are you spending on Keaton Mitchell? Not much. I don't know if, unless I need one of these guys that we're going to talk about today i don't know if i'm spending any fab this week like if i need a dst or a bi-week replacement
Starting point is 00:15:30 i get it but i don't know if anybody here is really worth it i agree not that much but someone in your league is going to overspend for him someone in your league is going to put up a 25 fab bid or more yeah i think it's not i like him a lot but i don't know i mean you guys know how much i like him been talking about him for months i think the tough fab decision this week is if you have a quarterback on a buy you know you're not the only one and you're going to be have to be very competitive here so you know but but at the same time, like Jamie said, he doesn't feel a huge difference between Mayfield, Levis, and Dobbs. So you're going to have to decide how much money to spend if you have Mahomes or Hertz or Tua.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Probably not. Unless you already have it covered. Of course, but I'm saying if you don't. Some smart fantasy managers might. If you don't have it covered covered and then I guess check your league and see who the Mahomes and Hurts and Tua managers have, do they need to get in that quarterback market? You know what I'm trying to say here? Because you might be desperate. You don't want to miss out on all the waiver wire quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:16:38 But if all three of our top guys are available, then you probably don't want to spend too much on any one of them. Correct. I also think this is a great week to, you know, try and trade. Yes. Or any of those high level players that are on a buy. If those teams are struggling, I mean,
Starting point is 00:16:52 you have perfect opportunity to get my homes as maybe as cheap as ever. Travis Kelsey certainly as cheap as ever. The Eagles guys, you know, if somebody's struggling, just needs to get something to get a win. The dolphins guys, you know,
Starting point is 00:17:04 I mean, two is coming off a crappy game. There's a lot to maybe poach off of somebody's roster. Then there's the Rams. Sean McVay is optimistic about Stafford coming back in Week 11. I bet he does. What's that? I bet he does. I bet he does, too.
Starting point is 00:17:22 He'll be back to giving us 17 fantasy points. I don't care about him. I care about Nick. Yeah, right. It's just bet he does too. How healthy is he going to be? He'll be back to giving us 17 fantasy points. I don't care about him. I care about Nikola. Yeah, right. It's just more of the receivers. Ah, okay. Are we making offers for them, or are we a little nervous about it? Sure.
Starting point is 00:17:32 They're great. Oh, I mean, if you can get them cheap, you absolutely do it. I don't really know. I just don't really know what that means exactly. Would you give up Mike Evans for them? 100%. For Cup, yes. For Puka,
Starting point is 00:17:47 I'm not sure. Okay. I got some news and notes for you. We'll update you on the big storylines after we take a break here on Fantasy Football Today. All right. Break is over. You know, if you're watching, I went to
Starting point is 00:18:04 break too soon. I didn't give Schaefer enough time to queue up the commercial. So I was sitting there like, it was my fault. My bad. News and notes. Kyler Murray is going to start this week barring a setback. But head coach Jonathan Gannon said it might not look like Kyler Murray. So I don't know if that means he has longer hair or he just won't be quite as dynamic as he was before. Where are you guys ranking Kyler this week?
Starting point is 00:18:29 Top 12. I've got him 16th. Okay. Josh Dobbs is going to start for Minnesota. Justin Fields is going to start on Thursday against Carolina. Daniel Jones tours ACL. And Brian Dable, for you in two QB ACL and Brian Dable, for you in two QB leagues,
Starting point is 00:18:47 Brian Dable did not commit to Tommy DeVito. So it could be Matt Barkley, which would give us the Barkley-Barkley backfield, which everybody, I think, would be pretty excited about. Khalil Herbert practiced in full,
Starting point is 00:19:00 but again, we don't know if he's going to be activated. Cole Komet does have a knee injury. Should this be a concern to anybody picking him up on waivers? Or to be activated. Cole Komet does have a knee injury. Should this be a concern to anybody picking him up on waivers? Or anybody in general, Cole Komet? I would probably assume that short week,
Starting point is 00:19:13 they list guys like this that are dealing with any sort of ailment. They didn't practice. It's a walkthrough. So we see this quite a bit. I wouldn't worry about it. All right. And again, yeah, they got the Thursday game. Jamar Chase, didn't mention this one yet. He's questionable. He's got a sore back. He may not play this week. They seemed almost pessimistic about it, very cautious about it, let's say. And they've got Houston coming up. And I'll give you the numbers from the four games that he missed last year. Joe Burrow had three games with 17.5 to 21.1 fantasy points, and he had a huge game at Pittsburgh. He was pretty good overall, but only one great game. T. Higgins was phenomenal. He was on pace for 153 targets.
Starting point is 00:19:54 Tyler Boyd was not. Tyler Boyd had 12 catches in four games for 140 yards and a touchdown. It was a really big disappointment because we knew Chase was going to have an extended absence. And I remember being pretty excited about picking up Tyler Boyd if he had been available and he stunk. So it's put on IR, he has to miss four games. Not four weeks, but four games. John Harbaugh said there will be a rotation at running back.
Starting point is 00:20:32 The tough... Oh, Cam Akers tore his Achilles. This is a different Achilles. It's left Achilles. Last time it was his right Achilles. So just a brutal break there. Dan Campbell said that he has a good feeling about David Montgomery playing this week, but also that Jameer Gibbs is going to get some touches. What did he say?
Starting point is 00:20:48 He'll get his fair share of touches. Who are you guys ranking higher this week for the Lions? Gibbs, PPR, Montgomery, none. They're much closer for me in PPR than none, but I have Montgomery higher. All right. And they have the Chargers, who actually
Starting point is 00:21:03 all of a sudden have a good run defense. Let's see. They have a hell of a pass rusher. They do. They have a few. Christian Watson does not have a concussion, which is good. He might play this week.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Deebo Samuel is back, baby. Zay Jones mispracticed. He's really must be pretty hurt. He's coming off the bye, and Zay Jones still not healthy. Dallas is really must be pretty hurt. Coming off the bye and Zay Jones still not healthy. Dallas is going to work out Martavis Bryant. Are there any leagues, even a dynasty league, where there's like everyone's rostered that you're stashing
Starting point is 00:21:35 as you're adding Martavis Bryant, former Steelers receiver? No. No. Sean McVay sounded optimistic about Stafford, as I mentioned. He also said Kyron Williams is expected back in Week 12 when he's first eligible. Devon Achan should be back in Week 11. We know Josh Downs is hurt.
Starting point is 00:21:52 K.J. Osborne is hurt. Cleveland got good news, not great news, but good news on their left tackle, Jedrick Wills. He is on IR, but he's not out for the season. He has an MCL injury, and he's going to miss at least four games. And there are some other defensive news that we don't really need to get to. So let's get to the top three at each position. Jamie, start with the quarterbacks. Who are the top three quarterbacks to get? Yeah, we mentioned this already. Baker Mayfield, Will Levis and Joshua Dobbs. And I
Starting point is 00:22:17 think it depends on what you're looking for, for not just week 10, but also beyond. So for week 10, I feel like Baker's got the safest floor. I feel like Levis has the highest ceiling. I don't love the matchup for Dobbs against Minnesota, excuse me, against New Orleans, but hopefully, as Dave said before, that his legs can carry him through. He's got, I think it's five games with at least 40 plus yards rushing.
Starting point is 00:22:37 So he's done a nice job there, three games in a row with a rushing touchdown. But I still buy into the Saints defense being pretty tough to have production against. So he's my least favorite from a week 10 starting standpoint. But long term, if you tell me right now, which it seems like it's turning that direction, that Jefferson's coming back,
Starting point is 00:22:55 then I would put Dobbs ahead of the other two if you don't need to start somebody for this week. Yeah, it's interesting. If you look at the Tampa Bay-Tennessee game, you would think, based on the past, this is the better matchup for Baker Mayfield. But Tennessee's been a lot better against the past than we expected. They're 10th against quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:23:15 I think it's misleading, though. Yeah, probably. But the last three quarterbacks, Lamar Jackson scored 18 points. I don't know if you remember that game. They left a lot of points off the board. They stunk. That was in Europe, yeah. Actually, I think Tennessee might be the best red zone defense in the NFL.
Starting point is 00:23:30 I have to look that up. Taylor Heineke had 14. Kenny Pickett had 12. But on the other end, it's Tampa Bay. They just have a terrible pass defense. I think he was in a half. Yeah. Fair point.
Starting point is 00:23:41 Oh, you're right. Sorry about that. Was he? He was. Yeah. Okay. I remember Ritter had the concussion, and then he cleared protocol you're right. Sorry about that. Was he? He was. Yeah, okay. Remember Ritter had the concussion, and then he cleared protocol, but they benched him anyway,
Starting point is 00:23:49 and it was because Arthur Smith said he was being conservative with him. He wanted him healthy. Right. Well, that's why I'm not really buying it as a bad matchup for Baker Mayfield. I think if it was a team like Tampa Bay, and granted, Rashad White's coming off
Starting point is 00:24:02 a strong performance running the ball, but if it was a team that can run the ball, because that's what we've seen is the Titans run defense has really been bad by comparison to what we thought it was going to be and what it was for last season. The thing about Baker is just there. He basically just giving you consistently 20 plus fantasy points, five of eight games this season. He said 20 points is too bad. He's had really two bad games. So he's had two under 18 points. So he's been just pretty consistent. And again, I think the floor, how this game should go, it makes him the safest of the bunch. But Will Levis, my God, he's facing the defense that's just allowed 84 fantasy points
Starting point is 00:24:36 the last two weeks to Josh Allen and to CJ Stroud. I just don't know if you can bank on Levis getting to the 20-point mark safely. He should be able to. And again, I don't discount him having the higher ceiling than Baker. But we also saw what the floor looked like last week, and now there's two games worth of tape on him. And so will Todd Bowles make things a little bit tough on Levis?
Starting point is 00:24:57 Plus that offensive line is a complete disaster. And is he going to get more than just DeAndre Hopkins helping? So I don't mind him, but I also think if I'm just picking between the two, I'll take my chance to pick. It was really – what an endorsement. Like four or five things is negative on Will Levis. Like, yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:25:13 It was just funny. It was just like, here are all the reasons why he might struggle. Well, the matchup's great. Yeah. Right, but it's almost like the matchup's great, and two weeks ago we saw him go haywire. And those are the reasons to go with Will Levis. And then here's six other reasons why you shouldn't go with Will Levis.
Starting point is 00:25:31 And they're pretty good reasons. So I agree that he's like number three on this list for sure. He's two for me. Yeah, I'd rather have Dobbs and Levis. No, I get that. If you're just looking long-term. But for starting this week, I'd take Levis over Dobbs. I'd rather have Dobbs and Levis. That's I get that if you're just looking long term, but for starting this week, I take Levis over Dobbs. I'd rather have Dobbs and Levis.
Starting point is 00:25:46 That's fine. Yeah, it's going to be close. If Russell Wilson were available, how would he rank with the other three? Ahead of him. I think I'd put him behind him. Oh, wait. Can someone look this up? Because Heath was going to do it, and I don't think he ever
Starting point is 00:26:02 did. I've got this feeling because I feel like every time Russell Wilson's in primetime, he's at Buffalo on Monday. I feel like he is awful. And that's why everybody hates him so much because whenever the NFL community gets to watch Russell Wilson, he just lays a total egg in primetime. He's Kirk Cousins? He's something. Heath said he was going to look up his night splits. I don't know if that's easy to do.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Let's see if I can find it. Think about the Chiefs game earlier this year. Just like every time. I don't know. Anyway, maybe something to look into. Running back. While Dave's looking that up, Jamie, you can give the top three running backs. It's Keaton Mitchell.
Starting point is 00:26:44 It's Zach Charbonnet. And then it's good luck um but after those two i think you're looking at maybe some potential handcuffs i'm gonna put four net third though just with the chance of buffalo needs to do something they're awful right now running the ball they really have no run game to speak of. And I said this last week when we were talking about Fournette, that if he becomes something, you get ahead of it. And so if you get a chance to get him for 1%, 5%, third time, second time through waivers, he wasn't activated. So there's no stats to speak of for week nine. They just need to change something. So I think if he's ready to go, he'll be activated for this week, and it's such a good matchup against Denver.
Starting point is 00:27:29 So this could be a very soft landing spot for Fournette to start to make some plays for Buffalo. I don't know if he will. It's a total guess. But James Cook and Latavius Murray are not getting the job done right now. He's absolutely my favorite running back stash this week. I mean, Mitchell, I guess, technically is a stash because I don't know if you're ready to start him
Starting point is 00:27:46 as soon as week 10, but who else is out there that's got any kind of rest of season upside? And Antonio Gibson's out there in like 60% of leagues, but we know what he is. There really isn't any other running back that's out there that might be able to be a 15 touch and a man. I have a hard time saying that with a straight face because it's a Buffalo running back, but they got to get it.
Starting point is 00:28:11 You're right, Jamie. They got to get something going. Who else has 15 touch potential and maybe even steal a few touchdowns? Then Leonard flipping for now. I think you're being a little hard on James Cook. I don't think he has run the ball poorly. I mean, the last time he's run the ball poorly. I don't think he's run the ball. Well, he did. He had 13 to 14
Starting point is 00:28:28 carries in three straight games before only six at Cincinnati where they barely had the ball. They were trailing by 14. I don't think James Cook has done anything to lose that job. It's not about necessarily losing the job, though. It's about does Fournette overtake Murray,
Starting point is 00:28:44 which is not hard to do and then what does that mean for what he could become yeah well i hope he becomes latavius murray and not james cook because i like james cook i mean i'd rather have him getting the carries but obviously it's a mess there right now all right wide receiver dave who you got top three double check to make sure that tank Dell isn't out there. I know on CBS leagues, he's only out there in like 20, 25% of leagues, but I saw that on other platforms, he's like available in half of the league. So do a double check for him. Do a double do a double check for John Dotson. You try saying that five times fast. And then, uh,
Starting point is 00:29:24 Jackson Smith and Jigba is worth a double check as well. If those guys are gone, and they should be, DeMario Douglas is my favorite, followed by Tyler Boyd. And then I don't feel good about Quentin Johnson.
Starting point is 00:29:38 I know he's available. He's just not clicking yet. Maybe this week against Detroit he gets some more opportunities. They didn't need him against the Jets. It was a tough matchup. I guess he would be third for me because there really isn't anybody else that gets me really excited. Okay. I think that's kind of the theme of the show today, but Douglas and Tyler Boyd. I've got your Russell
Starting point is 00:30:00 Wilson stats too. Oh, let's hear it. He's one in four in his last five late games with, I think, two passing touchdowns. Oh. Subpar completion rate under 60%. Ooh. Yeah, that's bad. Okay.
Starting point is 00:30:18 Well, tight end, Jamie. Who are the top tight ends to get? As you mentioned earlier, with the guys that are in 80 to 82% roster, check to see if Jake Ferguson, Dalton Schultz, Cole Comet, David Njoku, Trey McBride, all are not rostered. If they aren't, pick your favorite one.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Those are the best of the bunch. You know, then it's kind of a mixed bag of John O. Smith, Hunter Henry, and Logan Thomas. Smith just continues to be a productive factor for the Falcons in outproducing Kyle Pitts, as we saw last week. Hunter Henry first game without Kendrick Bourne and Devontae Parker. Scored a touchdown, had seven targets. And Logan Thomas just, you know, safe option.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Four catches last week, not a huge game. But you know Sam Howell's throwing the ball a lot and will still be a factor. So don't love the matchup performance this week against Seattle, but can still be a borderline starter for you. Are we assuming Drake London's not playing this week? No, he's playing. No, it sounds like he's going to go. Alright, so I'm surprised that
Starting point is 00:31:09 Johnnie Smith is number one for you then. You want to talk about that? Well, it's not like Johnnie was not producing when Drake was on the field. Yeah, it's true. It's true. You can put Henry first. I have no problem with that. No, I think I'd take Logan Thomas first.
Starting point is 00:31:27 I think I would too. John and Henry Thomas. I don't have a great deal of confidence in any of these guys as anything more than low-end PPR starters. None of them are ranked as starters for me. Right. And, right, hopefully one of those 80% rostered guys slips through the cracks. I meant to ask this question. I want to ask it now.
Starting point is 00:31:43 I don't want to forget. So we said Khalil Herbert, if he were available, might be the number one guy. Would be the number one guy, basically. Jamie said that. Dave, you agree? No. No, you take Keaton Mitchell over him? I might, just on the speculation
Starting point is 00:31:58 that he becomes something rest of season. Well, I think if we're playing this game, and Dave mentioned other platforms, Tank Dell would be the first guy. So he was a little bit too... He was a little bit... Okay, fine.
Starting point is 00:32:12 The other player I was going to mention was Jahan Dotson. Yeah, I would take those two guys over. Yeah, for sure. And Smith and the Jigba. Yep. But Dell would be your favorite, right? By far.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Followed by Dotson? I by far followed by dotson i would go dell dotson smith and jigba herbert okay same uh dst's jamie who we looking at uh the raiders they get the jets um max crosby has got to be so excited. Um, the Seahawks, the lions and the Colts. Dave, anything to add or I don't mind the Packers this week getting the Steelers. Agreed. I try not to list like 17 teams. So like I usually used to be only gave three and then I'm like,
Starting point is 00:32:59 you know, I can give four. And so I don't keep giving like so many. Sure. Yes. The good news is that you can find DSTs this week, but I would prioritize. I wouldn't make them your number one priority, but like number two, number three type of priority.
Starting point is 00:33:11 I wouldn't wait till Saturday to drop the Chiefs DST or bench the Chiefs DST to go pick up one of these other DSTs. They're going to go fast. I wonder how people are going to feel about the 49ers DST. They're going to start. They're 91% roster. Well, they've been horrible. They have.
Starting point is 00:33:28 They may not have heard. They just got another pass rusher. They did. They did. They're at Jacksonville. Could be some music for that game. I'm not sure. Well, given your track record, it would be appropriate.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Two and one. You're two and one. Do you think I went two and one or one and two? No, you 100% went two and one. Bengals, Chiefs, you think Bengals' bills lived up to it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Okay. I'm all in on the Bengals. They're winning the Super Bowl. All in. I'm a Bengals fan. Both sides of the ball. Giants are over. I am a Bengals fan.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Will you return to being a Giants fan in 2024? Of course. I'm going to be a Giants fan in 2024? Of course. I'm going to be a Giants fan in week 10. No, you're not. Of course I am. You're rooting for them to lose. Jamie,
Starting point is 00:34:11 this is what people don't understand. I am going to root for them to win. It doesn't matter. They're going to lose anyway. I don't have to. It's not like a big game. I'm so into it. I'm going to root for them to win. They're going to lose. Why would you even watch? If it wasn't for your job, why would you even watch? Oh, big game. I'm so into it. I'm going to root for them. When are they going to lose? Why would you even watch? If it wasn't for your job, why would you even watch?
Starting point is 00:34:28 Oh, I like to. I like to. I mean, I just enjoy it. You know why? I love football. I just love it. I'm watching the Hurricanes on Saturday, and they're playing like total garbage. And it's like the game was over.
Starting point is 00:34:43 I'm like, I'm really going to miss this. I've only got like four games left. And that's the thing. Like I'm going to miss football so much. I always do. I hate when it ends, at least with the NFL, you've got another month of football, you know, you've got the playoffs, but I just, you don't get that many Sundays. You don't get that many chances to watch your team. And I just absolutely love it. I know that might sound cheesy or like I'm lying, but I it's the truth. I just got to fight for that. Yeah. I love, yeah. No, I hope I'm motivating people to watch football, but I just, I'm going to miss it. I, you don't, don't that many, don't get that many chances. And obviously I got a feeling people are going to watch. No, I know. But when you were, when you were all sitting there watching that
Starting point is 00:35:22 crap game last night, we, Everybody comes out to watch the NFL. Yeah, I'm just saying, if your team stinks, why do you keep watching? And for me, it's because I know they're not going to play another meaningful game until next September. And that sucks. Kickers, Jamie? Who's the starting quarterback for the Giants in week one next year? Some rookie, I think. I don't know who.
Starting point is 00:35:44 I don't think they're going to get the number one pick. It could be Daniel Jones. They might hang on to him. They'll hang on to him. And then they put the rookie in by week four. So they're putting the guy coming off a torn ACL over a rookie that may be ready to play. Depends
Starting point is 00:35:59 on who the rookie is and if he's ready to go. Well, I talked about this yesterday. I mean, don't base any ACL recovery timeline on Kyler Murray. I cannot believe how long Kyler Murray took to get back. It's the longest I can remember. It's like unbelievable. And most players are back very early in the season,
Starting point is 00:36:17 regardless of when they tear the quarterbacks, regardless of when they tear their ACL. Kyler, this is stunning. Week 10. Who are the kickers? We had a call of duty tournament. Who are the kickers? Maybe you had a Call of Duty tournament to play. Who are the kickers? The kickers?
Starting point is 00:36:31 Yes. Now we're into the Brussels sprouts. Riley Patterson, Jason Myers, Jake Moody, and Daniel Carson. Okay, great. And we don't have IDP right now.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Devondre Campbell might still be out there. You might want to hang on to read Blankenship through his buy. Guy's a good game every single week. And we don't have IDP right now. Devondre Campbell might still be out there. You might want to hang on to read Blankenship through his buy. Guy's a good game every single week. And those are the only players I can tell you. Agreed. You can always tweet me or email me. I'll help you out with your IDPs.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Okay. Shallow leagues. Deep leagues. Dave, do you want to take the shallow leagues? I always give you the deep leagues. No, I prefer the deep. All right. Dave is rolling in the deep. Jamie's take the shallow leagues? I always give you the deep leagues. No, I prefer the deep. All right. Dave is rolling in the deep. Jamie's in the shallow.
Starting point is 00:37:09 What do you got, Jamie Eisenberg? I mean, we've said a lot of these guys already. I'll go back to the quarterbacks here. And I do think Russell Wilson is still worth buying into just because, again, Buffalo has been really bad the last three games against quarterback. So hopefully coming off a buy, I'll check to see what his numbers are coming off a buy. That's always a good stat to look at with these veteran guys. Um,
Starting point is 00:37:30 Kyler Murray, obviously, you know, 81% rostered. So he should be the, the priority of that position, the running backs, as we said,
Starting point is 00:37:36 Khalil Herbert, but there are three guys, you know, I, I know we debated Keaton Mitchell versus some of these players, but Ty J Spears, you still want to have them on your team. Um, Tyler Algier, Jaleel McLaughlin. versus some of these players. But TyJay Spears, you still want to have him on your team.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Tyler Algier, Jaleel McLaughlin, these are all high-end handcuffs that are playing to some degree. If you look at what Algier just did, he's got 11 PPR points in two of his last three. Spears has basically given you a floor of six PPR points. I know that's not great from a starting perspective, but that just shows you what he can do if he were to get the starter's job should something happen to Derrick Henry. And then we've seen what Jalen McLaughlin
Starting point is 00:38:07 has done when he's gotten a little bit of work. And so similar to all these guys, you know, they're just an injury away from being must-start fantasy guys. The receivers, again, we've touched on a few of these guys, Tank Dell, Nathaniel Dell for what your search should be, Jahan Dotson, Jackson Smith and the Jigba, you know, all worth adding. And then Jerry Judy too, you know, he's coming off a touchdown prior to the buy, didn't get traded. So maybe that, you know, puts a little bit of, you know, better mental state for him. And, and, and Russ continues to look for him. Uh, he does have actually 11 PPR points in three of his last four. So giving you a decent floor there as well. And the tight ends, we've said these guys are already, um,
Starting point is 00:38:42 Jake Ferguson, Cole Comet, Dave Njoku, Dalton Schultz, Trey McBride, pick your favorite one, but all have the opportunities to be pretty productive fantasy options. I don't know how you feel about Komet, though. Carolina, they've been pretty good. They just never get targeted. The teams just don't
Starting point is 00:39:00 throw on them. I don't know if Chicago's going to do that. Just give the ball to dionte foreman or whatever all the time but caroline it's a tough matchup for cole commit um it's a revenge game for dionte foreman oh yeah about that and dj more and that's who they're giving the ball to all right dave deep leagues at quarterback dobs is out there in 70 of cbs sports leagues so he would top the list. Taylor Heineke for this week against Arizona would be next Mac Jones
Starting point is 00:39:31 available in two thirds of leagues. He's got Annapolis and then a buy. So Heineke and Mac, they're definitely one week options. That's really it. I don't know if I can talk about any other quarterbacks that are out there in deep leagues, running backs for net Gibson at 61%. Oh, Keaton Mitchell, obviously. I'm sorry
Starting point is 00:39:52 about that. Mitchell should top the list. He's available in over 90%. How about Ty Chandler as a stash? Because Alexander Madison, great game, did a lot of it through the air. Dobbs might be the leading rusher for the Vikings rest of season, not Alexander Madison. He's just so inefficient. So Ty Chandler could be an interesting stash and you wait to see what happens with him. Odell Beckham available in 70% of CBS leagues might be as good as it gets amongst the wide receivers. Khalil Shakir, 92% if you're stashing. These guys aren't even worth stashing. Zay Jones, Traylon Burks, I would put them out of the list.
Starting point is 00:40:29 And then a tight end. We didn't get into Cade Otten, and I think we should. He's 89% available. He's had at least six targets in each of his past three games. He's had at least four catches in each of his past three games. And, of course, he had the two-touchdown game against Houston. I wouldn't expect him to score very often, but maybe he gets you around 8-10 in PPR.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Still would rather have Logan, Janu, Hunter Henry ahead of him. I think he's in that same mix as Luke Musgrave. I think they could have the same expectation. The difference being that Musgrave doesn't have as tough of competition around him as Otten does, but Otten's had at least six targets, three straight games. Okay. Excellent.
Starting point is 00:41:10 So we'll take XZang. All right. Hey, Thomas, I am going to go to a commercial break now. I'll give you a little time. Okay. And when we come back, the thriller in the Meadowlands on Monday night, the Chargers and the Jets. We'll talk about it right after this on Fantasy Football Today.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Cue commercial. If you were watching the commercial, college basketball season started. All right. I'll be at a college basketball game on Friday. Excellent. Zank, I finally get to root for a good team. The Chargers and the Jets 27-6
Starting point is 00:41:47 Chargers with the win you know what I hate in fantasy football let me tell you what I hate guys a special teams touchdown or a defensive touchdown it's just like a game script killer for so many players and the Chargers got one early
Starting point is 00:42:03 and they only had the ball for 25 minutes and 33 seconds. That was the only score they needed. It's true. Well, that's because... Dave, who dropped that touchdown at the end of the game for the Jets? It was C.J. Uzom. Oh, boo! We're not celebrating
Starting point is 00:42:20 a drop. Especially a drop that would have meant nothing to anybody in fantasy. It probably would have hurt more people because more people probably started the Chargers DST than Zach Wilson or Yuzama. What are our major takeaways from this game? Well, Brees Hall. I mean, Brees Hall is struggling in the run game recently. He had the 50-yard touchdown. Behind that offensive line, it's hard to run?
Starting point is 00:42:46 Well, this is a guy that I was thinking was like— The quarterback that they're daring to throw? I was really thinking Brees Hall, first-round pick kind of player right now, like a top-12 overall player, going to get unleashed. I was thinking— He still has that bench. Yeah, right. I mean, he had 20 touches.
Starting point is 00:43:02 That's a good thing. I'm not benching him this week. No, no, no, no. Raiders, right. I mean, he had 20 touches. That's a good thing. I'm not benching him this week. No, no, no, no. Raiders, yeah. I don't know if I'm benching him anyway. Of course. But I would expect him to at least get more than six non-PPR fantasy points. I appreciate Joey Bosa.
Starting point is 00:43:20 I got a nice text from Dave. We were going head-to-head in our IDP Dynasty League, and I was down 12. You were down 10 going into it? I know this. Let me tell it. You were down 10 points? Honestly, just to give you my perspective, after Burrow's game, because I know you had Burrow,
Starting point is 00:43:36 I stopped looking at the score because I thought you won. Yeah, I thought I won too, and then Bosa had a sack, a forced fumble, and a fumble recovery on the same play, and I turned to my wife. We were watching the game, and I said, I'm too. And then Bosa had a sack, a force fumble and a fumble recovery on the same play. And I turned to my wife, we were watching the game and I said, I'm cooked. And I, I I'm, this is a dynasty league and I'm going for it. And I made a big trade and I am Owen two since the trade with two heartbreaking losses. I'm now a game below 500. I have no first round pick next year. This did not go the way that I thought it would.
Starting point is 00:44:05 Just there are fantasy gods too, because I talked a little trash after I made the trade and I am just getting shoveled in horse manure figuratively. Well, I also got lucky against Dave in another league where I was up. I think it was like nine or 10 going into last night. It's tight end premium league. So he had Brees Hall.
Starting point is 00:44:28 I had Tyler Conklin. And I think Conklin outscored Brees Hall. He did. Oh, he would have. He outscored him in full PPR, much less premium. They were, he, he outscored him in non PPR. That's how, that's how rough it was for Brees Hall. But enough about me and my terrible fantasy.
Starting point is 00:44:44 Lucky wins for me. Let's talk about... I just want to share that I needed nine points from Gabe Davis and Quinton Johnston. Oh, God. Gabe was a total letdown. I'm sure you guys talked about it on Monday. Was he a letdown, Dave?
Starting point is 00:45:00 I didn't notice. A little bit, yeah. I hate him. They went back to using him the old way, and they didn't learn their lesson from the week before. They learned it with Kincaid. They didn't learn it with Gabe Davis. Okay, so anyway, Chargers, Jets, Eckler, yay, Keenan Allen, hooray.
Starting point is 00:45:15 Don't judge Quentin Johnson too harshly, or Justin Herbert, I guess. But Herbert, I guess I'll just bring it up. I mean, the Jets are great. They're a terrific defense. He's had three big games as a passer. They've been against the Titans, Vikings early in the year, and the Bears. And I still just feel like something's missing without Mike Williams.
Starting point is 00:45:34 But, I mean, do you care at all as you look at him in the future, Justin Herbert? If this was a regular week and we had all those quarterbacks playing, he'd be outside the top ten. Oh. It's not just Williams. It's Palmer, he'd be outside the top 10. Wow. It's not just Williams. It's Palmer, too. I mean, they're down two key contributors to the passing game.
Starting point is 00:45:51 So Eckler, huge letdown in the passing game last night. You thought that would be something where he'd make a lot more production. I felt like the four-and-a-half catches, the prop was so easy for him facing this defense and knowing how tough it would be to run. And like you said, Adam, maybe the punt return changed the game script. You know, he thought maybe a little more competitive game. He's involved. I did have a tough drop balls on behind him.
Starting point is 00:46:14 But I think, you know, you expect. Yeah, I think he had like at least five targets, anything. He had at least two drops. So it gives me not quite as concern. And they only like I said, they only had the ball for less than 26 minutes. But yeah, I mean, look. Herbert is
Starting point is 00:46:31 safe. I just don't know if the upside thing is true. Seven targets for Eckler. I'm sorry. Two catches on seven targets. Yeah, the four and a half receptions felt like a layup. It should have been. On seven targets, it should have been. I will say this. Despite how bad the Jets are, thankfully, Garrett Wilson continues to be productive.
Starting point is 00:46:48 So that's the one constant for this team is that as much as Zach Wilson sucks and the Jets are just babying him and not allowing him to play football, it's just run, run, try and save us on third down, and he's not capable of that. You're not going to win games playing defense and kicking field goals with this team.
Starting point is 00:47:04 But Garrett Wilson just gets targets, and he's productive. Zach Wilson just has no pocket presence. He just can't feel the rush. He's so careless with the ball. He panics so easily. You see the one play that's been making the rounds. I don't know if you saw it live. He has about 30 yards in front of him to run.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Yes. I didn't see that. He shovel passes it to Michael Carter. It was so bad. Nah, that's a shame. Garrett Wilson is wide receiver 25 per game and six per game in half PPR. I mean, full PPR, the catches are helping him.
Starting point is 00:47:39 In non or half, I wonder, is he even a top 24 guy on a regular basis? Because they just don't throw touchdowns, this team. It's fair. Yeah, he won't be until they get a competent passing game going. I mean, I think I'm being a little hard on him. He's third in the NFL in fourth quarter target share. And I mean, all the studs are going to be high in target share anyway.
Starting point is 00:48:02 But this goes to Jamie's point about playing hero ball. It's the fourth quarter, and then they start to decide to throw like crazy to Garrett Wilson. They should be doing this from the jump. He should have 15 targets a game. He is top 24 most weeks when there are buys. If you had a full slate of games, maybe in a half PPR league, Garrett Wilson wouldn't crack it, but he's been top 20 fairly consistently recently, even in half PPR. All right, I think that's pretty much it. We can wrap up that game there, and let's go.
Starting point is 00:48:32 I didn't have a drop-o-meter today. I can take a look at some of the most. I don't know if we have added and dropped really yet. Daryl Henderson is the most dropped player at most drop running back. Yeah, who's the most dropped player at most drop running back. Yeah. Who's the most dropped player? There's not yet. There's no data yet,
Starting point is 00:48:49 but I'm seeing Derek Carr on the drop list. He's got Minnesota and then a buy. Would you drop Derek Carr for Baker Mayfield or anyone? Yeah. Yeah. I would drop him for the quarterbacks that we talked about. The main three. Yep.
Starting point is 00:49:04 Try and trade him first. Maybe someone will take him. You know, he's coming off of two good games. Maybe someone will give you something for him as a bi-week replacement. Miles Sanders, you feel good dropping? Yep. He's a bench guy anyway. Romeo Dobbs?
Starting point is 00:49:20 He did have, I think he had eight PPR points last week. That's good for Miles Sanders. I think he had nine. He had five targets and three catches. Okay. I watched his carries and he looked pretty good. You know, I think. It was late in the game though.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Yeah. So he barely got him, but maybe that'll get him going a little bit. But anyway, Romeo Dobbs, drop-o-meter. You good with that? Easy drop. Yes and no. I think just make sure that Watson's playing because we've seen Dobbs put up good numbers when Watson has been out.
Starting point is 00:49:47 But yes, he was one of the ones when I was like, ah, I'll wait a minute in terms of the guys to drop. He'll drop an heartbeat for any of the shallow league receivers. Without a doubt. All right. And even Douglas. Julio Jones is on the most drop list going into his bye. What year is it? I don't know, but it's there. All right. is on the most drop list going into his bye. What year is it?
Starting point is 00:50:05 I don't know, but it's there. All right, back to the waiver wire. Check to see if available in shallow leagues. Lamar Jackson might be available or Patrick Mahomes might be available to you in the very shallowest of league.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Kyler Murray and Russell Wilson are the two guys. Who do you prefer? Kyler. I'd rather have Kyler than Russ. Kyler is QB blank rest of season. 11. 13.
Starting point is 00:50:38 You guys ever see Blank Man? No. Superhero movie? Really? Never saw it? Damon Wayans? I know of the movie. It's a really funny movie. I used to love that movie. Really? Never saw it? Damon Wayans. I know of the movie. It's a really funny movie. I used to love that movie. Okay.
Starting point is 00:50:51 So, Baker Mayfield, Will Levis, Josh Dobbs. That's Jamie's order for this week. For Dave, it's Baker Mayfield,
Starting point is 00:50:58 Josh Dobbs, Will Levis. Let's throw a little love to Taylor Heineke. Drake, you said Drake London's going to play in Arizona's 25th against quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I think this guy's worth a look here, Taylor Heineke. Yeah. Agreed. Yeah, no, I think he's fourth, but I think he's worth a look. So you have Arizona, then a bye, and Arthur Smith, as we are well aware, not ready to commit to Heineke as a starter the rest of the season. So if you're looking for a one-week situation,
Starting point is 00:51:27 it wouldn't surprise me if he's better than Dobbs, just given the matchup. But I think you just look at, okay, can he be trusted? Will this Falcons offense produce enough? We haven't exactly seen it from their quarterback position, but mostly that's due to clearly Desmond Ritter and his struggles. But yeah, getting London back is a big boost with a great matchup. After the bye, which is in week 11,
Starting point is 00:51:46 the Falcons play home against New Orleans, and then they're at the Jets. You can use Heineke for a week if you want to, and then he's totally disposable after that. I agree with you about the Jets. I'm not so sure about the Saints. I don't think they're playing such good defense right now. They're not bad.
Starting point is 00:52:02 They're definitely not to the level that we saw earlier in the season and what the expectations are, but they're still very good. And let me tell you a little secret about the Saints because it started at the second half of last year. They have played
Starting point is 00:52:13 so few good offenses. Look at their schedule at the end of last year because that division was garbage. I'm not saying they're bad, but I don't think they're the Jets. What's that?
Starting point is 00:52:24 Look at the start of this year. It was easy teams, right? Yeah. Tennessee, Carolina, Green Bay. Not 100% sold on their defense. I mean, it should be good. When you look at Mayfield, Levis, Dobbs, Heineke, would you start any of them over?
Starting point is 00:52:39 Please don't laugh. CJ Stroud at Cincinnati. No. Hey. Don. Hey. Don't laugh. Can't make the case for it. How about the Brock Purdy-Trevor Lawrence matchup? I like Purdy.
Starting point is 00:52:59 I would start Mayfield over them, and that's it. Okay. Tommy DeVito is listed as a 2QB league guy, but like I said, they haven't committed to him. Two more guys I wanted to bring up. Gardner Minshew. Nope. Not interested?
Starting point is 00:53:16 No. Deshaun Watson. It's kind of like a reverse jinx though, because every time we're out on him, he does well. How do you feel about Deshaun Watson? He's 78% rostered. We broke it down yesterday. He did not look good yesterday or Sunday. No.
Starting point is 00:53:31 There's no chance you're playing him this week against Baltimore. And so I can't imagine there's a rush. Pittsburgh after that. I can't imagine there's a rush to go get him. Pittsburgh stinks. Pittsburgh stinks. Pittsburgh's not tough. Are they? I think they're going to be better.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I think last week was an example of them getting better. I don't think Pittsburgh is not good. I think Pittsburgh's very good. Their secondary's not. But getting Cameron Hayward back certainly helps. Of course. That's what matters the most, is the hash rush. I think the only way you're starting
Starting point is 00:54:03 quarterbacks against the Steelers and if you bought into Will Levis last week, you should learn your lesson on this. You've got to be a pretty good quarterback. I'm convinced Watson's touchdown to Cooper was a pick six if it didn't get deflected. It definitely was a pick. I don't know if it was a pick six. That's a long way to go.
Starting point is 00:54:19 All right. Running backs. Tajay Spears, Tyler Algier, McLaughlin, Herbert. Algier's got a chance to get good production this week against Arizona. He's going to be the lead running back. He's going to be the goal linebacker. It's going to destroy my Twitter feed. It's just going to be people cursing at Arthur Smith.
Starting point is 00:54:37 But, yeah, so there's that. Hey, shave the mustache. Maybe there's a change coming. Okay. Okay, good. It wasn't working. But the waiver... Is he on the short list of first coaches fired at the end of the season? Oh, he's on it.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Oh, absolutely. Does he even make it? What if they lose? What if they lose to the Cardinals? Does he get fired in the bye week? I think he's still in the division, though. That's the thing. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:01 They can't let him go yet, even if they lose to the Cardinals. But I think if they don't make the playoffs, they could move on. Top three coaches fired would be who? Arthur Smith? Yeah. I think McDermott's done if they don't make the playoffs in Buffalo. That would be
Starting point is 00:55:19 something. That's interesting. I think Dorsey's done. Belichick? If Carolina doesn't win another game, does Frank Reich survive? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, first year with a rookie quarterback. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:55:38 That owner seems to have an itchy trigger. I like the Belichick. Belichick seems like, yeah. Okay. All right, so the running backs, Keaton Mitchell, Zach Charbonnet, Leonard Fournette, Ty Chandler, who Dave mentioned, and then you got Elijah Mitchell, Jamal Williams,
Starting point is 00:55:55 Travion Williams. Eberflus. Who? Eberflus in Chicago. Oh, yeah, that could happen. Boy, that would be a great job to walk into with potentially the top two picks. That'd be great.
Starting point is 00:56:10 You'd think so. Great. I mean, great history of that franchise. They've been good for so long. Great quarterback play throughout franchise history. Any interest in Antonio Gibson? He has two straight games with five catches. Yeah, no, I added him late, and I took Williams off.
Starting point is 00:56:23 So Jamal Williams off. Okay. Well, you do have added him late, and I took Williams off, so Jamal Williams off. Okay, yeah. Well, you do have an injury to Kendrick Miller. Yeah, it was just more like I was putting a lot of handcuffs, you know, like, who do you want to have
Starting point is 00:56:34 just to stash at this point? And clearly, if something were to happen to Kamara, then you got to like the setup for Jamal Williams. Ooh, yeah, Brandon Staley is another guy
Starting point is 00:56:42 who could get fired. Yep. Oh, definitely. Yeah, good call, Chat who could get fired. Yep. Oh, definitely. Yeah. Good call. Chat. I think they have to win a playoff game in order
Starting point is 00:56:49 for him to survive. Making the playoffs isn't enough. Check to see if these wide receivers are Josh McDaniels. He might get fired. Jerry Judy.
Starting point is 00:57:00 Tank Dell. All right. Take that will be one. Then Dotson. Then probably JSN. Then Dotson. Then probably JSN. Then Judy? Who would you rather have, JSN or Judy?
Starting point is 00:57:09 JSN. Okay. I might take Judy over JSN. Something happens to Metcalf or Laka, and JSN's going to be top 20 or C-Rest. We've already seen it. They're healthy right now. Well, they're relatively healthy right now. I think something's up with DK.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yeah. I don't know. Close call. All right, Demario Douglas is our top prize. Tyler Boyd against Houston. They've been very good against wide receivers. In fact, the next two matchups are Boyd. Houston's fourth best.
Starting point is 00:57:38 Baltimore is sixth best. You know what you're getting from Boyd most weeks. The question is, how big of a boost does he get if Jamar Chase is out in your mind, Dave Richard? I don't think it's going to be a huge boost because Mixon's been running it well, and they can use him a little bit more and lean on him, even in the past game, a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:57:55 But short area slot receiver target, who's got, I think he's got a pretty good floor in PPR. I just don't think he's got the ceiling. And that's what makes me nervous to say that Tyler Boyd is a great pickup and an awesome bi-week replacement. And he's okay. Odell Beckham, Khalil Shakir. I'm actually somewhat interested in Khalil
Starting point is 00:58:13 Shakir. He's also part of the reason why Gabe Davis didn't do well. I mean, Josh Allen talked about it after the game. He kept referencing that it was the game plan why Gabe Davis wasn't being used much. The coaching staff might have made a decision already to use shakir more in that short area passing game right he's a very interesting guy to add in that game kind of wait and see on well josh allen is uh he is now three of 20 for 86 yards on past attempts of 20 or more air yards in his last four games.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Three of 20 for 86 yards. And that is interesting for Shakir. You know, because that's the role he fills. And he only had four targets, but Allen only threw, oh no, he did throw 38 passes, I'm sorry. Those pass attempts went up late in the game. So that was bad, the four targets. But the production was good for two straight games.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Wandale Robinson caught a touchdown. Noah Brown. Is Noah Brown worth a look for the shot? Yes. Yes. Yeah, I mean, you're tying yourself to one of the better quarterbacks right now. He made plays two weeks ago, too. And we got to mention that Demario Douglas, as much as we like him,
Starting point is 00:59:23 he wasn't even the team's leading receiver. Juju Smith-Schuster, same amount of targets, six more yards, 17% rostered, much more available. Why is he kind of an afterthought in fantasy? Juju? Looking more at upside as opposed to just the guy that's going to get
Starting point is 00:59:40 you minimal production as a floor. Okay. I'd rather have Noah Brown. And tight ends. David Njoku, Jake Ferguson, Dalton Schultz, Cole Komet, Trey McBride. Don't drop McBride, right?
Starting point is 00:59:54 We gave him a pass for last week. Yeah, and Kyler's coming back. Absolutely. Absolutely. Hang on to him. And you like all of those guys better than John U, Henry, Logan Thomas? Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Yes. Okay. And that's how Jamie ranks it. Janu, Henry, Logan Thomas. Dave goes Thomas. Who's two for you? It's Janu. Henry's third.
Starting point is 01:00:15 Otten is fourth. Otten fourth. Luke Musgrave fifth. Gerald Everett sixth. And DSTs. The Raiders, the Seahawks. Raiders get the Jets. Seahawks get the Commanders.
Starting point is 01:00:29 The Lions get the Chargers. I don't get that one. Why do we like the Lions here? Because the Detroit defense is good. Okay. The Colts are against the Patriots. I do get that one. Riley Patterson is it's kicker,
Starting point is 01:00:45 Jason Myers, Jake Moody, and Daniel Carlson. Thank you everybody for watching and listening today. We will talk to you tomorrow with some trades and maybe play a game,
Starting point is 01:00:58 come up with some new theme music. That should be fun. Dave just knocked something over while stretching and we will... Oh yeah. It was the goose. Oh, it was the goose.
Starting point is 01:01:05 We'll talk to you later. Thanks, everybody. And good luck on the waiver wire this week. See you. Kusama!

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