Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire! Latavius, Burks, Perine and More (11/22 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: November 22, 2022

Latavius Murray could help you rest of season while Samaje Perine might be more of a Week 12 rental. Those are two of the headliners as we tell you the top priorities for Week 12 (2:40), go through all of the big news (6:35) and talk FAB (17:00) while expanding on Latavius Murray's value ... Shallow league (23:30) and deep league (27:15) options. Check for Derek Carr and Darnell Mooney in shallow leagues. In deep leagues, Greg Dortch and Skyy Moore could be options ... We get much deeper into the waiver wire at QB (32:50), RB (40:40), WR (45:15) ,TE (55:40), DST (59:40), Kicker and IDP. We'll talk about Ryan Tannehill, Jerick McKinnon, Cam Akers, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Treylon Burks, Demarcus Robinson, Evan Engram and everyone else you need to know about. Then we recap 49ers-Cardinals to end the show (1:02:30) ... Email us at [e-mail] Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr, @ctowerscbs Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday Get 20% off Fantasy Football Today merch: https://store.cbssports.com/collections/fantasy-football-today%20?utm_source=podcast-apple-com&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=buy-our-merch&utm_content=fantasy-football-collection Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." To hear more from the CBS Sports Podcast Network, visit https://www.cbssports.com/podcasts/ To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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What's up, everyone? Welcome to your Week 12 Waiver Wire show. Did you know that the Rams running backs face five? Stink. They stink. That's true. But in their next six games, they face five teams that rank 22nd or worse against running backs. And in their next three games, all three teams are bottom six in receiving yards allowed to running backs. Great matchups, bad players. Did you know that Samaje Pirine has had nine to 13 carries in eight games with the Bengals?

And in those eight games, he is averaging 16 PPR fantasy points per game. That is more than Dalvin Cook is averaging this year. And did you know that everyone is injured? And we welcome you a crazy injury report this week. Welcome to the show. Jamie, on a scale of two, how would you rate this week's waiver wire? I don't know which end of the spectrum is better. I would rate it as 8.5. So that's more of the... Okay.

If you notice, Jamie's mic having a bit of an issue with Jamie's mic today. We're going to push through it. So sorry about that, everybody. But it's fine. The information is what matters. Before we get to all the big news, guys. Close game yesterday. You hate to see it decided on a penalty.

Come on, USA. You got to see it decided on a penalty. Come on, USA. You got to be better than that. No need to commit that penalty. I am a little sick today. I have World Cup fever. I apologize. I'm very into it. But last night's game was a big blow up.

And we'll talk about it. Is that why you were not able to go on HQ on Monday? No, that was earlier in the day. I promise. Were you too hyped up for soccer that you didn't want to bother on HQ on Monday? No, that was earlier in the day, I promise. Were you too hyped up for soccer that you didn't want to bother joining Jamie and Heath? I only watch USA.

Not the other stuff. I don't mess around with the other stuff. Alright, so the news we're tracking Justin Fields. Matt Aberflus didn't even rule him out. Didn't even rule out him missing the season. That's how vague the injury is right now for Fields. Joe Mixon, concussion. Clyde Edwards-Zehler, ankle.

Leonard Fournette, we're hoping he comes back. The Denver running back situation with Melvin Gordon released and Chase Edmonds out for several weeks. Mike Williams, ankle. Kadarius Toney, Kyle Pitts among the injuries. Let's get to the top waiver wire priorities. Jamie, what's it look like? Who are the top priorities this week?

I have it as Latavius Murray, Donovan Peoples-Jones, and Samajai Piran as the top three guys. Latavius Murray, Donovan Peoples-Jones, Samajai Piran. Dave, what say you? Latavius Murray is at the top. He's the best rest-of-season player that you can add. I will take Piran next over Peoples-Jones, and Peoples-Jones is only out there in about a third of CBS leagues anyway.

But it's the same top three, just Bengal over Brown. Okay. So this top three is Murray, Peoples Jones, and P. Ryan. Also, Dave pointed out to me that Isaiah Pacheco is 64% rostered in Yahoo! Leagues and 44% rostered in ESPN Leagues. You know what our waiver wire stuff would look like if we were on a different format, different site? You would have to team up with

somebody to write it. So many players on it. I generally check other waiver wire columns and it just amazes me. Some of the players that other people get to write about. You're telling me I have to recommend Richie James

when people are saying, hey, go out and add Mike Evans. He's available. He was dropped on the fly. Yeah. Well, who would you rather have, Latavius Murray or Isaiah Pacheco? I would rather have Isaiah Pacheco. Same. Okay, because Pacheco has, what, three catches this year? And over the last two games,

Murray and Gordon have combined for, I believe, 16 catches. So you do get that little benefit there. Yeah, I mean, it wouldn't surprise me if Murray's better, but in terms of who I think has more upside, I think it's Pacheco has more upside. Yes, yes. Okay, and what's the deal? Oh, Mike Boone could be back soon.

Could return in week 13. One more game. He will come back, and he will break our hearts yet again because that's what that guy does. Stinker Mike Boone. And yes, I'm still bitter over 2019 or whenever it was, 2020. All right, so we'll get into it. No teams on by this week,

but you might want to start planning ahead for week 13 when six teams are on a buy. And if you need to plan ahead, there's a beat the waiver wire episode on fantasy football today in five fantasy football today in five is awesome. Chris towers hosts it. It's about five to seven minutes every morning of great fantasy advice. So please check out fantasy football today in five,

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Next coach to be fired. Thomas Schaefer. Great YouTube polls. Nathaniel Hackett, Josh McDaniels, Cliff Kingsbury, or Lovey Smith. This is a tough one. Who's the next coach to be fired? Hackett, McDaniels, Kingsbury, or Smith? Hackett. Hackett for sure.

In season, first year guy? I don't know. I don't know if he gets fired. I don't know if any of these guys get fired in-season. But Hackett, just an unfortunate situation where he's been bad with a new ownership group. So it does not bode well for him. Week 18, he walks off the field.

He goes in the locker room. Maybe before he takes off his shoes, somebody comes in and puts an ax on him. I voted for Kingsbury because I think he's the only one who gets fired in season. If he gets fired. I don't think he will. That's a weird one, though, because he got a contract extension. Well, but Hackett is probably a multi-year contract, right? He does.

These aren't the guys who hired him. It's also his first contract, whereas Kingsbury's on his second. So he's getting paid more. It's not really, you know, boy, the Cardinals are so injured. We'll talk about, I mean, so injured. Key players everywhere, but we'll talk about that later. Okay, news and notes. I hope you have 45 minutes, everybody.

So Justin Fields is day-to-day with a shoulder injury, but he might be week-to-week. He's probably not going to play this week. And like I said, Ibrafluz was asked if he could miss the season, and he didn't rule that out. So we're hoping for the best. What do you think happens if Trevor Simeon comes in? I have some stats, but Dave, the impact on the Bears' offense

if Simeon takes over. Oh, well, they're just going to take off and become a fantastic offense, the likes of which we haven't seen in our lifetime. It's going to be ugly. They'll throw a little bit more. They might trust Simeon to throw a little bit more, but there are accuracy issues. There are deep ball issues with him.

He's a serviceable backup quarterback. You're not going to feel great starting any Bears players other than Montgomery. I mean, he's 100% going to throw for more yards than Justin Fields. I hope so. He could be good for Mooney. Yeah, I think it's actually a benefit for the receiver. Right, that's what I'm saying.

He could be good for Mooney. He could be good for Komet. And last year in four starts with the Saints, a running back had seven or more targets in every game. And that was Kamara once, Mark Ingram twice, and Ty Montgomery once. So they had bad receivers, but that's another factor here. So it's interesting. Obviously, he won't be as good for fantasy as Fields, but he might, Jamie, you know, he might be good for

the other guys on the team. Yeah, I have, you know, Claypool in the drop list because he's been so bad with the Bears. But, you know, he's, I think, easy to move on from until you see something from him. But I think for Mooney and for Komet and for Montgomery, I think it might be a benefit because it's not just the more yards. It would just be more available targets. So the hope would be it leads to more yards because Fields is going to take off and run. I mean, that's the strength of his game.

Simeon's going to stand back there and get pum I mean, that's the strength of his game. Simeon's going to stand back there and get pummeled. That's the strength of his game. So I think we'll see more opportunities for those guys despite the inept performances that he'll give you. So that would be – it's almost like, to a poor man's degree, think about how Mooney performed last year with Andy Dalton. I mean, he was much better with Andy Dalton than he was with Justin Fields. So it's going to be more throws in his direction.

I got to feel like, I got to see it to believe it. If his best quality is that he's a crash test dummy, then I'm not feeling Trevor Simeon. 59% completion rate over his career, 6.3 air yards per attempt over his career. I don't feel good about starting. No, but he's going to throw the ball probably 40 times. Justin Fields is averaging.

He might throw the ball 40 times, but he might only complete 24, 25 passes. That would be more than Justin Fields. I mean, Justin Fields is averaging 150 passing yards per game. 150 passing yards per game. It's terrible for everyone involved. Okay, so Simeon has averaged 201 passing yards per game. It's terrible for everyone involved.

Okay. So Simeon has averaged 201 passing yards per game over his career. So it's an extra 50 more yards per game. But if you look at that, there's a lot of games where he partially played. Because he comes in. It's true, though. It's honestly true. I did all the numbers this morning. He gave us 2,000-yard receivers one year in Denver. Demarius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders. I'm not saying numbers this morning. He gave us 2,000 yard receivers one year in Denver.

Demarius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders. I'm not saying he's going to be great, but you can't get any worse than Justin Fields this year from a passing perspective. They have the worst passing offense in football. Not the worst. They have the lowest passing offense, passing yards per game.

I'm not saying that Fields is bad. I'm saying they don't throw enough, and they don't throw for a lot of yards Fields is bad. I'm saying they don't throw enough, and they don't throw for a lot of yards. That's all I'm saying, Dave. He will be better in that regard. I am excited to watch their offense with Trevor Simeon. It's not about that, though. It's just about what he can do for those receivers,

which will be better. He's going to be amazing for them. You're right. The key to unlocking Darnell Mooney is going to be Trevor Simeon throwing 35 times. My takeaway was don't drop Mooney or Kemet. No, absolutely not. Oh, no one's doing that anyway, though.

Well, I think you could make an argument to drop Mooney for Peoples Jones. You might do that anyway. Yes, that's true. You could drop Kemet. Kemet's very streamable based on what just happened. All right, all right. We've got a lot of show left. Other quarterback news.

Matthew Stafford's got the concussion. The Jets could make a quarterback change, and we think it would be Mike White if they do. It's hard to figure, you know. I mean, everything from the media suggests Joe Flacco. The depth chart says Mike White right now. So I would imagine if they're trying to make a playoff push, it's Joe Flacco. Okay.

What else? Kyler Murray may not play this week. He may not play until after the bye week, which is next week. And the Panthers have not decided on a quarterback yet. They have Denver and then they have a bye. The running back news. Joe Mixon, concussion. Clyde Edwards-Elair, ankle. How long do we think he'll be out?

High ankle sprain, so you probably assume four weeks. Okay. Leonard Fournette, are you guys ranking him at this point, expecting him at this point? The report is prior to the bye week, where he was going to return after the bye. Is it possible that the Chiefs put

Clyde on IR and then forget about him like they did two games ago when he only played four snaps? Leonard Fournette has a hip injury. Sorry. I don't know why I read that. I'm Ron Burgundy. Daryl Henderson.

I'm Ron Burgundy. Daryl Henderson was injured. He was dealing with a knee injury before the game, and then he started, and then he left. So that is why he had such little work. The Ravens hoping to get Gus Edwards back this week. Jalen Warren injured. Chase Edmonds going to miss multiple weeks with an injury, with an ankle injury and Denver released Melvin Gordon.

So that's why Latavius Murray is the number one priority this week. Wide receiver Cooper cup likely out six to eight weeks. Mike Williams re-aggravated the ankle. Rondell Moore left immediately early in the first quarter after a carry and one carry in the game. He left with a groin injury. Yeah. And then Dorch had a big game. And Dortch has been big.

And he's given you a good game every time Rondell Moore hasn't played. Yep. He's worth adding. He's out there in every league pretty much. You got the Marquise Brown situation, though, too. Because Dortch has never played with both Brown. Well, nobody has. Both Brown and Hopkins at the same time.

And that might be as early as this week. Jamar Chase has a chance to play this week. Justin Jefferson playing through turf toe. He's got a Thursday game. Jamison Williams is eligible to return, so he's on the priority list as well. Wanda Robinson tore his ACL. That stinks. Kadarius Toney left with a hamstring injury, and Baltimore hoping to get Deshaun Jackson back. Kyle Pitts is on IR with a torn MCL. Jamie, what's the impact here of Pitts missing perhaps the rest of the season, but at least the next four games? I would hope it's more targets for Drake London. You know, that would be the biggest benefit to come out of this because,

as you have noted, the three games prior to week 11, Pitts had 24 targets over that span. So hopefully those go to Drake London, who has not exceeded 40 yards receiving since week three. He has a touchdown each of his last two games, but, you know, clearly he's been limited by this offense. So that would be the biggest boost. There's not a tight end on the roster that you can look at and say, okay, that's the guy I have to have. The other receivers are just guys. So this would be the opening, I think, for Drake London to, you know, maybe have the Christian Watson, Traylon Burke's, you know, rookie kick that's, you know, for Drake London to maybe have the Christian Watson, Traylon Burke's

rookie kick that's coming for those guys. London has seven red zone targets and five end zone targets in his past three games. So not only should he see more of those targets with Pitts not on the field, and he did last week, he should also see targets everywhere else. This is the perfect time to get him immersed in the Falcons passing game. Yeah. From a fantasy perspective though, he's about 75% rostered,

I think. So is he more of a, of an ad dropper hold? Hold. An ad and a hold. You know, I think if you are seeing him available, depending on what your receiving core looks like and injuries,

you know, at other positions, then he's certainly somebody that you can consider adding. If he's on your team, I don't know why you would drop him at this point with an opening now to hopefully have him improve. So, you know,

while it's been frustrating, I mean, if you've been starting in the last two games, you've gotten at least some reward. So that's the hope that more production going forward, they're not gonna change their offense. In a vacuum or in a blanket, would you drop Drake London for Latavius Murray?

Yes. If he's my worst player on my bench, absolutely. How about for Greg Dortch? If I needed a one-week replacement to save my playoff life, yes. I would rather have Greg Dortch than Drake London. I wouldn't do it in non-PPR. There's another tight end. Jamie, I don't know that you put him on the list.

Taysom Hill. They seemed intentionally to really get him involved last week. I was reading about it yesterday. He had nine carries. He was in a lot. They kept taking Dalton off the field. And you know they're not happy with their quarterback situation. They were thinking about making a change to Winston.

But instead, they went with this sort of hybrid thing. So, just curious if you guys think maybe Taysom Hill is back in the picture. He's 56% rostered in CBS sports leagues. I mean, I guess if you want to go that route, but they're playing the 49ers this week. So good luck to anybody trying to buy into Taysom Hill. Okay.

Offensive line news. I won't go through everything, but the big stuff is Ronnie Stanley, the left tackle for the Ravens. Hopefully not too bad there. Christian Derusaw, the left tackle for the Vikings, is not going to play this week. He has a concussion.

The Giants lost two offensive linemen on Sunday. Don't know the severity, but they have a Thursday game. The Patriots lost two offensive linemen on Sunday. David Andrews looks like could be pretty serious, and they have a Thursday game. And there are a ton of defensive injuries. I won't get into all of it. Let's see.

The Giants really stood out. They got really beat up. The Chargers had a couple of key players go out. And we can leave it. Oh, and Atlanta lost a defensive tackle. Take Juan Graham. He's on IR. So that makes things better for the running backs going against them and that would be washington this week

okuda is not playing for the lions on thursday is he i would i would assume no i mean he left with a concussion and is playing thursday so right probably not um do we need to have a fab discussion here what do you do okay here's the's my fab discussion. If you know you're making the playoffs, do you spend on Latavius Murray or do you save it for hopefully something more appealing that comes down the line? You know, I would probably direct the conversation more toward P. Ryan. I know where you're going because Murray has more long-term appeal, but, you know, clearly he's not as available. So, you know, I think if you're going because Murray has more long-term appeal, but, you know, clearly he's not as available. So, you know, I think if you're talking about somebody who's widely available,

it's probably a different conversation because most of your league is now trying to get him. So, I mean, if you want to say 10-team league, Latavius Murray, do you want to spend money on him? Probably so if you're, you know, looking to shore up your depth. You know, I mean, a lot of leagues, I know for me, you know, the leagues where I'm going to the playoffs, I have a few teams that are loaded, but you know, most of them are just, you know, my starters are good. And my, my backups have been guys that I'm cycling through with the hope that they improve. So I'll probably spend a little bit more on Latavius Murray in those situations. But yes, I think if you're at the point where you're desperate to get in, this is a, the type of a player that you just spend the rest of your fab on because why not? And that's the problem.

If you're one of those teams that's playoff bound and you just want to, I just need an extra running back on my bench. What are you willing to spend for that type of a running back? You're willing to spend maybe 15%, 20%. Whereas there's going to be somebody in every league that'll just shove their chips in on Latavius Murray. And so don't overspend to get Murray, let the person who needs them make that happen. I'm not saying don't put in a fab bid on them, but just make it something

that's fairly reasonable for you. And obviously we don't know everybody's leagues situation, but you know, all I can see is the roster percentages for CBS leagues. Now, as we alluded to at the start of the show, our leagues are a little bit different than some of the other leagues, which is, you know, our site, excuse me, is a little bit different than other sites. But, you know, depending on who's available in your leagues, there aren't a lot of guys available that fall into the must start category or must flex start category that are out there. You know, Isaiah Spiller, maybe you can make an argument for, you know, there's still a lot of leagues where Alexander Madison's madison's available but how many situations can we see a starting running back go down and there's a guy that's out there that's going to have long

term appeal you know samajip he right sure uh he's now he's now in that category he doesn't have long term he doesn't have long term appeal right i mean let's well i mean we don't know probably but i mean just just extending it a little further than that you know ifon has another injury that, that could be worse in a week or two, you know, so when you're looking at these situations, do you want to get cam acres, that type of guy, you know, stepping into the lead role on a crappy team, uh, Latavius Murray stepping into the lead role on a little bit more of a crappy team, but, or a little bit less of a crappy team, but you know, at least you've seen production. So, you know, there so you know there there's there's various degrees of of how this example plays itself out you know like deontay foreman goes down right tuba hubbard's available in a lot of leagues is that a good

situation i would say it's probably comparable to latavius murray right probably a little better than cam makers you know so there there are those type of situations out there what i'm getting at is like this may be the best chance for you to get somebody that can have three to five weeks of good production and when I say good production he's got a score like 10 non-PPR points on a good week something like that this is also a good time if you're if you've let's say you've got Josh Jacobs and you want to just handcuff him you're going to the playoffs get Zamir White while he's cheap if you don't have him already sure I mean James James Cook is starting to show flashes he should be rostered that's why he's on this definitely that's why

he's on this list you know I mean you know what to get you know if Madison's still sitting out there you know what he's capable of doing you know so there's going to be a lot of scenarios it's just a matter of like to what heights these scenarios are going to be you know and at what point do they become viable options for you like how'm hesitant to say drop A.J. Dillon with the chance of Aaron Jones getting hurt. You're not starting A.J. Dillon. Same thing with Kareem Hunt. Kareem Hunt stinks on his own,

but should something happen to Nick Chubb, he'd be the most added player by far. Perfect example. If you're just not going to start Latavius Murray, if you don't need him, I don't think I'm going to drop Kareem Hunt for him. Because if Chubb gets hurt, Kareem Hunt is going to

be better than Latavius Murray. Latavius Murray, I mean, I think so anyway. He has been really bad running the football. Is it his fault? Is it the line? I don't know. But one way or another, you're talking 3.3 yards per carry and a long of 14 yards. So I guess I need

to know, we need to know how you value Latavius Murray. So how would you rank him rest of season? I'll give you three players. Tell me how you'd rank Latavius Murray with these guys. Then we can go even deeper, but Latavius Murray, Miles Sanders, Deontay Foreman. How would you rank them? Sanders, Foreman, Murray. Agreed. Okay, how about Jeff Wilson and Raheem Mostert? Would you rather have Murray than either one of them? No. I don't think, definitely not Wilson

and probably not Mostert either. So we're talking about a number two, low-end number two running back basically? Maybe even a high-end flex. Oh, at best he's a number two. I mean, you know, when we had this conversation on HQ, I believe Heath said it appropriately. Like, he's a poor man's James Conner at this point.

You know, you're just hoping for 20-plus touches. You're hoping he falls into the end zone. You're hoping for, you know, the work in the passing game to be, you know, something that will sustain him on days where he's running crappy, like he's getting 17 carries for 49 yards. So like you said, Adam, they've been throwing to their backs. There's still an absence of Jerry Judy right now.

The tight end position hasn't exactly ascended to the place we were hoping for with Greg Dolchich. So, I mean, Russell Wilson's running for his life and dumping the ball off. So it's a benefit to Latavius Murray. So I don't want to sell him short. I mean, he's certainly going to give you production, but it's going to be ugly production,

and that's kind of where Conor's at. Yeah. He's a must-add. I just, you know, just the thought that if you don't absolutely need him, you might not want to spend all of your fab on Latavius Murray, because there could be a Zemir White or something

that comes along later that might be a better one-week player for you. When you get into the playoffs, you know good you're competing against maybe three other teams maybe one other team for the players and there could be one just must-have guy it could be a different position and you want to have the fab left someone will be there right we're definitely going to hit on somebody later happens every year right fab four yep okay, let's talk about shallow leagues and deep leagues, and then we'll kind of get into just the waiver wire. But for the players that we're not really going to talk about on this show,

Pacheco, I mean, he's so rostered in CBS Leagues, 92%, but you guys said you'd rather have him than Latavius Murray, right? Yep. So that puts Pacheco in perspective. But who are some of the guys, Jamie, that might be unavailable for most of our listeners but available for the shallower leagues or the ESPN or Yahoo leagues that people need to go get? I usually look at, for our leagues, 85% or fewer.

So at quarterback, the two that I saw, and they're not pretty for Week 12, but at least they're serviceable. Derek Carr scored 21 or more points in three straight games. Seahawks have given up production three of the last four weeks to opposing quarterbacks, so he can help you in a pinch. And Deshaun Watson should be rostered at this point with one game remaining until he's back.

So that's the quarterbacks, the running backs. You mentioned Pacheco, if he's still available, I think he's, he's certainly on the list. And then, you know, you start to talk about guys like Elijah Mitchell, just as the handcuff potential, uh, Michael Carter, he's at 83% rostered. I think they'll get back to being more productive offense if they change quarterbacks and, uh, Damien Harris, I thought ran well. Um, he's at 81% roster. You know, he had two carries of over 22 yards. So if something happens to Stevenson, you know, clearly he's going to be a must-start guy. So now's the time maybe to pick him back up after dropping him.

Receivers a little bit better, just in terms of some guys that could be starters for you. I think when you get to Peoples Jones, as we said, is on the cusp at 64%. But Darnell Mooney, I think, is worth rostering. Drake London is worth rostering. Paris Campbell, as we talked about last week, should certainly be added. He's at 74%. And then Josh Palmer, a lot of people dropped him with the expectation of both Mike Williams and Keenan Allen being healthy.

You saw what happened. He has best game with those guys on the field, and then Williams got hurt. So pick him back up as well. Josh Palmer. I mean, let's say he's 69% rostered. Let's say he were 64% rostered and he made your waiver wire column in the main portion of it. Would he be

the number one guy to add? I would probably put him behind Peoples Jones if you told me Williams and Keenan Allen were definitely healthy. Because I don't know if Palmer has that game if Williams plays the entire game. Oh, no. It's all about Mike Williams. I mean.

Sure. I know they said Mike Williams' injury wasn't serious, but it is a re-aggravation of a pretty serious ankle injury. And Palmer is just absolute money when he gets eight or more targets. So, you'd still take Latavius Murray and Samaj P Ryan over him. And Jamie's thinking maybe people's Jones, Dave, how about you? What about Josh Palmer? You know, if he were widely available, where would he?

Yeah, I'd make a play for him at bare minimum. He remains one of the best bench wide receivers you could have in fantasy because when one of those two receivers is out, his targets go up and any receiver that gets eight targets per game has a chance to be great for fantasy. So I think if he's out there somehow, maybe somebody dropped him last week, you can prioritize him.

If we knew that Mike Williams was going to miss more time, he might be the priority of the week. He might be the best guy to get. But until we know that for sure, yeah, I think I'd take Peoples Jones ahead of him. Okay. As far as tight ends go, Dawson Knox, David Njoku,

and Darren Waller are shallower league guys that you can go pick up now. We got a really good question here, a player that was kind of off my radar. Should we pick up J.K. Dobbins? He's 56% rostered. And why don't we just make a note? We'll talk about him

when we get into running back. So Dobbins could be back fairlyed. And why don't we just make a note? We'll talk about him when we get into running back. So Dobbins could be back fairly soon, and we will discuss him. All right, Dave, how about the deep league guys? We're talking, you know, to the, hey, nobody's available in my league crowd. Right. Why don't we start with the Broncos running backs that aren't named Latavius Murray?

It's Marlon Mack. It's Mike Boone. Boone can't help you this week. Marlon Mack might. Why don't we start with the Broncos running backs that aren't named Latavius Murray? It's Marlon Mack. It's Mike Boone. Boone can't help you this week. Marlon Mack might. He's available in 98% of CBS leagues. We've seen the Broncos utilize multiple running backs every game they've played. I think that's going to continue.

So Murray will still be the feature guy. He'll be the goal line guy. Clearly, this coaching staff trusts him. I think Mack would be the second guy up if something something were to happen to 32 year old Latavius Murray, Mac would be the next guy up. Wouldn't be a bad guy to carry on the bench. We talked about Greg Dorch, not sure how many targets he will get once Marquise Brown is back into the mix, but I think that he's absolutely worth adding and just seeing what happens. He wouldn't be my priority. He's available 97% of CBS sports leagues. There are not one, but two chiefs wide receivers that deserve mentioning.

And I think people are going to go after them even in regular leagues, not necessarily the shallow leagues, Justin Watson, 81% available sky more 91% available. Both of them saw a ton of playing time. Always good to have a receiver that's getting a lot of playing time in Kansas City. Of course, their playing time depends on who else is healthy in Kansas City's passing game. And a tight end, look, I don't ever feel good recommending Austin Hooper unless we're just trying to make fun of his last name like we've done for years. But 89% available. He's been getting some work in Tennessee's offense, whether or not that remains. I don't know if I feel great about it.

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Okay, everybody. You're dedicated, you're loyal, and it's Thanksgiving week, so we're giving things away. We're thanking you for being part of our show, as always, and we're giving up a free month of Paramount+, which is really awesome. There are so many great shows on Paramount+, so everybody should check it out. Please comment your Twitter handle here on our YouTube chat. Comment your Twitter handle, and our guy, Thomas Schaefer, will reach out to you. All right, let's do our top three

at each position. Oh, I never know what to do here. You know what? Here's what we're going to do. I'm going to read the names so everybody knows who to get and then we're just going to go do the waiver wire.

Okay? Again, I do this because if you don't have time to stick around to the end, please hit the time codes and jump around to the positions that you need. But Jamie's quarterbacks are Tannehill for this week, Tannehill, Heineke, Brissett, Pickett, Mike White, Bryce Perkins. That's going to be more for two QB leagues, Trevor Simeon.

I will ask him about Mariota and Dalton. Running backs are Latavius, Pirine, Jarek McKinnon. How about this for Jarek McKinnon? The Rams have allowed 41 or more receiving yards to a running back in four of their last five games. That's McKinnon's matchup. And then next week, he's got the Bengals, who have allowed four catches to a running back

in four of their last five games. So again, it's Murray, Pirine, McKinnon, James Cook, Cam Akers, Isaiah Spiller. The wide receivers are headlined by, it would be Josh Palmer potentially, but he's 69% rostered, so it's Donovan Peoples-Jones, Greg Dortch, Traylon Burks, haven't talked about him yet, Traylon Burks, 28%. Jamison Williams, Sky Moore, Demarcus Robinson, always a good position, right?

Nico Collins and some more. Tight ends are Evan Ingram against the Ravens. Juwan Johnson, Austin Hooper, Logan Thomas, Foster Morrow against the Seahawks. That's why he's there. And the Chiefs. Oh, it's a great week for DSTs, by the way. The Chiefs against the Rams. Get them.

The Steelers against the Colts. Get them. The Broncos against the Panthers. You can get them. The Dolphins against the Texans. Get them. The Steelers against the Colts. Get them. The Broncos against the Panthers. You can get them. The Dolphins against the Texans. Get them. Don't use your number one claim, I'd say, on a DST

because you can get one probably the second time around. And the Bucs against the Browns. And Cameron Dicker, the kicker, is our top kicker streamer. Ryan Suckup, Joey Sly, Jason Sanders, and Matthew Wright. All right, with that said,

let's talk Turkey. Favorite waiver wire quarterbacks, Jamie, you got Derek Carr and Deshaun Watson in the check to see if available list. If we were ranking Carr with Tannehill, Heineke, Brissett,

who would be your top quarterback this week? Tannehill. Alright, you be your top quarterback this week? Daniel. All right. You were high on him last week, and he came through with 23 points against the Packers, 22 of 23. There's no rhyme or reason to it. He just finds, like I keep saying, he finds a way to get it done. You know, two weeks ago against the Broncos in a tough matchup,

he got you 23 fantasy points with Nick Westbrook-Akina. Then he comes back in what, at least on paper, was a tough matchup against the Packers, and he gets you 23 fantasy points. This time it was Traylon Burks, Robert Woods, Austin Hooper. He found a combination that hopefully will work. I mean, you know, this could be a decent trio for what the Titans are as a run-first team to help support Ryan Tannehill. And it's a tough matchup on paper again, but again, I think you just look at it. He's played seven healthy games, four of those, he scored at least 20 fantasy points. It would not shock me if he's had 20 fantasy points again. So, uh, more of a deep league starter for this week because no teams

on a buy and Justin feels really the only significant quarterback that we might be without. So if I'm the fields manager, he's the first guy i'm going to get um i switched the order a little bit i put uh brissette second because i think just he may go out with a bang against the bucks yep uh and i like his situation a little bit better than heineken heineken when i first gave you the list was more long-term appeal as opposed to short-term appeal and um you know brissette has done some things with his legs lately he's scored at least 18 fantasy points in three of three games in a row and the bucks have actually allowed six of seven quarterbacks to score at least 19 points so we're not talking about a guy i think that's going to be a significant contributor but if you are the fields manager looking for at least a one

week replacement brissette could be a pretty decent option for you. And then I actually put Pickett ahead of Simeon as well. He's just right now missing the second touchdown. The Colts' numbers against quarterbacks are a little bit weird because as we've talked about, their competition hasn't exactly been great and there's been more running quarterbacks that have had success against the Colts as opposed to guys throwing for multiple touchdowns. But Pickett has at least 37 yards on the ground in two of his last three games, so hopefully he can get some production with his legs and maybe find that second touchdown,

which will be great. If he does, I think he's a decent option as well, but I think he's not awful. I mean, you know, the, the Falcons have been bad against opposing quarterbacks all season, allowing 21.1 points per game to the position. So hopefully Heineke throws the ball a little bit more. He's just combined for 28 points in his last three games. They're using their run game so well. Uh, so Tannehill was number one and Jamie mentioned it's a in his last three games. They're using their run game so well. So Tannehill was number one, and Jamie mentioned it's a tough matchup on paper. They're playing the Bengals, who are fourth best against quarterbacks. There's only one quarterback that scored more than 18 points,

and that is Jacoby Brissett, who had a rushing touchdown. But if you look at the Bengals, it's tough to really know how good they are. They have played incredibly easy competition. They did do well against Lamar Jackson. They knocked two out in the first half, but the wide receivers they've faced, the quarterbacks they've faced, just they have been, you know,

blessed this year. So, so that you keep that in mind. Would you start any of these waiver wire guys over Kirk cousins against the Patriots on Thursday? What, what time is that game? Oh, crap. It's at 820.

But nobody's going to be watching. They're all going to be eating dinner. Yeah, no. Tannehill for sure. Brissette for sure. Wow. And Pickett for sure. What?

Over Cousins? Yeah, I don't trust him. If Derisaw doesn't play, forget it. I don't think Derisaw's playing. He's not playing. He's been ruled out. He's been ruled out. It's hard to feel good about Cousins. I would start Cousins over those quarterbacks as of now.

Tannehill's the only one that I think I might give the nod to. Who's safer to get you 20 fantasy points? Maybe it is Tannehill, but I think Cousins has more upside. Okay. I'm surprised. Such a detour here, but I'm surprised that Traylon Burks... Is Traylon Burks, in case people tune out before we get to him is trailing burks a must-add player yes yes okay and kenny pickett you know look george pickens dropped that

i think was going to be about a 45 yard touchdown late in the game and if he doesn't he has a huge game um maybe this offense starting to click maybe a little bit. So we lost fields looking for some upside. Pickett's got upside, right? They got downside for sure, but Dave's got some upside. Technically not feeling it. No, I mean, he's got it. The problem is that there are other quarterbacks I think you can feel better about.

And if we're just going week to week with the position, which you should be outside of Tannehill, then you don't have to make Pickett a priority. I'm not saying you have to make him a priority. I was just trying to make a case for him. Look, it's not easy to find a quality replacement option for Fields in the majority of our leagues. You might be able to find somebody better you know there could be other options available but in the numbers that we deal with in terms of roster percentage you know once you get past Tannehill at least giving you consistent production you know when you're talking about Preset versus Pickett versus Heineke versus these guys you are looking for upside so I'm with you Adam you know I think Pickett has shown it's coming

off the bye he's played much better yeah you know. And I think it's also Pickett is establishing himself as a legitimate threat. You have Pat Frymouth establishing himself as a legitimate threat. And if they can ever figure out what's going on with Deontay Johnson and Pickett, then maybe we're looking at a huge game for him. So I like the setup for Kenny Pickett taking on the Colts in a primetime game. Okay. you know so i like the setup for kenny pickett taking on the colts on a primetime game okay if you're in a 2qb league would you rather have mike white or joe flacco is it definitely flacco it's definitely no i saw it but it's definitely going to be flacco if they make the change i i again i just think that's the most logical thing if you're the jets because what

are you trying to accomplish here are you trying to accomplish somebody who may have upside or you're trying to get stability because you're trying to accomplish somebody who may have upside or are you trying to get stability? Because if you're trying to get upside, it's still Zach Wilson. So Mike White might be the better of the two in terms of what upside is, but Flacco is the more stable of them. I'm sorry. I really don't want to talk too much about this. I want to talk about wide receivers in a bit, but would you prioritize

a Jets quarterback, Bryce Perkins or Trevor Simeon in a 2QB league? Jets quarterback. Okay. You know that Joe Flacco in three starts has more passing touchdowns than Zach Wilson in seven. Yeah, it's true. Probably has more passing touchdowns.

Two 300-yard games as well. Did you know that, though, Zach Wilson is averaging a full yard per attempt more than Joe Flacco? The only thing Flacco did well was throw 50 times a game. Right. And he threw short a good amount of the time to two of his three games. He hadn't an a dot under five yards,

which is what Mike white would do. That's why I think Flacco probably is the best option for the jets is that he's got experience and he's going to manage the game just as well as Mike white would, but he's probably got a stronger arm at this point. Okay. Uh, last question on quarterback,

any interest in Mariota against the Commanders or Andy Dalton against San Francisco? Double no. Not really. You know, Mariota is intriguing because of his legs, but I think that's a tough matchup against Washington. Their defense has certainly played fantastic

of late. And Dalton, I still think, is on the verge of getting benched if he has a bad performance at some point during the game. And if James James Winston's healthy he could get benched before the game yeah it's just Mariota 19.7 or more fantasy points in four of his last six games so you'd take Brissette over Mariota this week I would yes all right all right let's go to running backs here not sure there's a ton to talk about we Thankfully, we've covered a lot of it, but we should talk more about McKinnon for sure. How about the shallow guys, Elijah

Mitchell, Michael Carter, Damian Harris, maybe Pacheco if you're on a different website. But it's Latavius Murray. There are a lot of guys if you're on a different website. Yeah. Latavius Murray, Samaje Pirine, Jarek McKinnon, James Cook, Cam Akers, Isaiah Spiller.

I guess, who are you ranking higher this week? Latavius Murray or Samaje Pirine? Unfortunately, he has to face the freaking Titans. We're so good on defense. And let's assume right now that Mixon's out. If Mixon's out, who are you ranking higher this week, Murray or Pirine? Pirine by a few spots.

Agreed. Especially in PPR. The catches could be so big. And if he gets to play another game as a starter, it's the Chiefs who give up the third most receiving yards per game to the running back. They are getting better there. How about the Bengals with a two-game stretch against two teams that they weren't supposed to beat in the playoffs?

Oh, last year? Yeah. Oh, yeah, the Titans and the Chiefs. Yeah, I mean, it's great, great games. And these are very exciting for these games. But yeah, I mean, the matchup for Pirine is really bad. Only two running backs have scored a touchdown against the Titans. Barkley in week one.

Damian Pierce caught a touchdown in week eight. They have just been smothering running backs. They have given up five or more catches to seven running backs this season, so that is good. I think the only way Murray is better is if he scores, because I don't think Piran will score. Where do you think Piran comes out in your rankings

by the end of the week, by Thursday? By the end of the week? I have him ranked right around 20. He's in that range. I have him 28th in non-PPR. He'll be a tad higher in full PPR. Keith said on the show yesterday that he was going to have him. I said, is he closer to 12

or 20? He said closer to 12. He'll be a little bit more optimistic. Jarek McKinnon. Disappointing game. It's tough to rely on guys who do all of their value is in the passing game at running back. And he had just one catch against the chargers.

As I mentioned, the Rams have allowed 41 or more receiving yards to a running back in four of their last five games. So McKinnon's 48% rostered. And how about Dobbins? Let's throw Dobbins on there. He's 56% rostered. Who would you rather add?

Depends on how desperate I was for a running back this week. If I don't need a running back this week, or if I needed a running back and the only guy that was out there was McKinnon, I would probably just wait on Dobbins and hope that two or three weeks from now, he's able to participate and help my fantasy team. McKinnon is now an injury away from being the guy for the Chiefs in all facets. Give me McKinnon all day long over J.K. Dobbins.

That's certainly an angle to take there if you're just looking for upside. James Cook has that upside. He's running well lately and Naeem Hines is barely involved. You want to talk about a lottery ticket, that's it. Cam Akers, if Daryl Henderson is ruled out,

where would you rank Cam Akers this week against the Chiefs? Low 30s. I mean, you know, what you got from him last week is probably the best case scenario without a touchdown. He has two catches on the season, so it's not like he's going to be involved in the passing game with Kieran Williams, you know, hopefully getting more of a role.

And this team stinks. So it's like, you know, 14 for 61, okay. You know, you get some empty production there. Volume will help him if you're desperate. But, you know, I just can't imagine that this Rams offense is going to all of a sudden turn into anything productive if Stafford doesn't play with the offensive line concerns that they have. And Henderson stunk when he was the guy.

So it's just bad all the way around uh you remember uh i think it was leslie man she played she played john stewart's girlfriend and big daddy yeah and uh at the surprise party scene adam sandler walks in she's like we wasted the good surprise on you that is how i feel feel about the Rams running back schedule going forward. We wasted the best running back schedule in fantasy football on the Rams. It just sucks. Maybe it helps. Sure.

Maybe. Chiefs, Raiders, Packers, Broncos, Chargers in week 17. I think I missed a game in there too, perhaps. Isaiah Spiller. Should we pick up Mike Boone in a deep league? Get ahead of it? Is he going to be the passing downs guy? Is he going to be the Melvin Gordon?

I would wait until Saturday to make that move if he wanted to make it at all. Because he's not playing this week. He's still on IR. Let's talk about wide receivers here. This is the money position. Check to see if available. Darnell Mooney, Drake London,

Paris Campbell. Campbell facing the Steelers this week. They give up the second most receiving yards to slot receivers, although the last two slot receivers they faced, Jarvis Landry and Tyler Boyd, had 37 to 42 yards. Josh Palmer, we already talked about. The ads, the priority list for Jamie

is Donovan Peoples-Jones, Greg Dortch, Traylon Burks, Jameis and Williams. We'll stop there. Let's talk about those top, well, let's talk about the top three. Donovan Peoples-Jones, Greg Dortch,

Traylon Burks. Why Dortch over Burks, Jamie? Oh, if he starts this week, I think you're getting a must-start player in PPR. I mean, you know, you've seen what he's been. The first three games of the season, he was 13 or more PPR points without Rondell Moore there. And then he steps in for more,

and he has nine catches for 103 yards on 10 targets. I mean, this is the position, you know, aside from DeAndre Hopkins in this offense that you want to be a part of. So like you said, there's the potential return of Marquise Brown. And what does that mean? And how does it all work together with Colt McCoy? Could be ugly, but I think, you know, the hope would be is that they stick Brown on the outside. They keep their slot receiver, whether it's Moore or Dortch, you know, being that guy. And that's a place where Colt McCoy or Kyler Murray continue to live. So I think there's more upside for this week alone.

You know, this is one of those. So like P Ryan better than Murray for this week, but Murray clearly got more long standing appeal. If you want to go the same route with those two guys, the receiver, I get it. You know, if you want to say Berks has more long-term appeal than Dortch, a hundred percent. But you know, if you're just looking for who can help you this week and help you win this week, it's Greg Dortch. Yeah, and another thing on Dortch is he does have a bye next week. So you would think Rondell Moore would have a good chance

at least of playing in week 13 after their week, no, sorry, week 14 after their week 13 bye. But Greg Dortch, even if Marquise Brown comes back, remember, there's no Zach Ertz, and that's the short-air target they had. And part of it is, I saw some of this last night, which makes sense. Greg Dorich, even if Marquise Brown comes back, remember, there's no Zach Ertz. And that's the short target they had. And, you know, part of it is I saw some of this last night, which makes sense. You know, the field was wet.

And so guy that slips and hurts his groin, you know how much they want to put him back out there in a bad field condition situation. That makes, you know, made sense to me. So maybe, you know, Moore is not as seriously injured as, you know, the scenario might lead to. So he could return to practice. But, you know, this is a guy that they've kind of handled with kid gloves based on the hamstring injury earlier this season. So it wouldn't be surprising if, you know, Brown is able to play and they just say, OK, like you said, Adam, they wait until their bye week. OK. So the top three are Peoples Jones, Dortch and Burks, Jamison Williams, Sky Moore, Demarcus Robinson, Nico Collins.

Dave, you can look at that chunk there and talk about whoever you want, but Jamison Williams, Sky Moore, Demarcus Robinson, Nico Collins, Robinson obviously coming off a huge game, 128 yards. What do you think about the next group? I think it really comes down to what you want. And Demarcus Robinson's interesting because he's had this great opportunity for the Ravens in two of the past three games.

And it seems like he's going to be their number one wide receiver for the rest of the season, but he's just, he's so flaky. We don't know if he's going to continue to be a plus targets a game, or if there's going to come a game, especially once the running backs come back for Baltimore, where he, he devolves into four targets, three catches, 32 yards. So I'm not a huge fan of Demarcus Robinson. I'd rather take the safety

of what Nico Collins and Zay Jones offers. Justin Watson and Sky Moore have more upside. That goes without saying, they're in the right place. But if Juju's coming back this week, that hurts those two. If Kadarius Toney's injury isn't serious, that's going to hurt those two. Jameson Williams is an awesome stash.

If he's healthy and ready to go in fresh legs, that could really add a great element to this Detroit offense. And Detroit's been playing well defensively the last three games. And offensively, they haven't been bad. They're clearly moving the ball. So he could be a lot of fun. I think if you're a playoff team and you've got that spot to fill and you don't need Latavius Murray for depth and you don't need a quarterback, I think you go for Jamison Wentz and I bet you get them for less fab

than what other players that we've talked about so far. And there's huge potential with them. It's a risk could end up busting out, could end up getting hurt again, but the dude can fly. He's tall. He's lean. He's like Christian Watson, but in theory, because we haven't seen it yet, he's less raw. He should be more refined and ready to play at the NFL level than Christian Watson was when Christian Watson broke out two games ago.

Just look at how the struggles of Chris Godwin coming off the torn ACL, Michael Godwin coming off the torn ACL, Michael Gallup coming off the torn ACL and Jamison Williams tours ACL in January, you know, Beckham's not even back yet. He toured in February. So I just,

we don't know that though. We don't know what that Beckham. Oh, okay. You're right. He's been, he was fully cleared a couple of weeks ago, I guess,

according to Beckham could walk on a field tomorrow. Yeah. But just remember, you're not, you're right. He was fully cleared a couple of weeks ago, I guess, according to... Beckham could walk on a field tomorrow. Yeah, but just remember, you're not, you know, just downgrade probably what you think of Jamison Williams. The timeline is actually better for Jamison than comparison to Gallup and Godwin. Agreed, yes. A little longer rest and, okay, younger. We're 11 months removed for Jamison.

Do you guys feel like Traylon Burks has must start potential? Do you feel like Jameson Williams has must start potential? They both do. I think, I think, yeah, sorry, good.

I was going to say Burks more. So I think both of them more so. And like, think of them as like flexes. If, if everything is right with Jameson Williams and he gets the type of target volume that we saw Traylon Burks get last week, he'll be better. Just period. End of story. He will be the better fantasy wide receiver. I've had a lot of conflicting thoughts about Berks because he

had those two deep catches and I don't really want to rely on Berks for that, but you can't deny that the Titans it's two weeks in a row now where they've implemented deep balls in their offense and it's worked for them. And if Berks is going to be their number one receiver and they're going to take some shots downfield on top of giving Burks short area targets, which is what he was known for coming out of Arkansas, then I think he could work his way into must-start status, even in a deeper two wide receiver, one flex league. I think he could get there. And I think Jameson could too. Jameson is an awesome lottery ticket because he's just got that deep ball potential and he's a good catch and run guy as well. Being added to an offense

that needs that. They're not getting that out of DJ Shark. They don't have Josh Reynolds healthy at this point. Everybody knows the potential that Jamison Williams has. Absolutely worth that claim and absolutely worth maybe 10% of your fab, your starting fab to get him and to stash him and to see what happens. The thing with, with Berks, you know, and we, you get a lot of, he had a 51 yard catch at the end of the game. Take that out. Still had six for 50 on seven targets. Prior to that,

you throw in the last target that's 14 targets in his last two games. And that's after a four-game absence with a toe injury. We don't know where he would have been had he played all those games. Had he been building towards something? This is a team I think that you're seeing evolve, which is nice to see because I think they realize after a couple of failed playoff runs that they can't just rely on Derrick Henry to get them where they want to go. It's a great defense. It's a great run game.

They need to have that next element. And so does Traylon Burks provide that for them? It's a great defense. It's a great run game. They need to have that next element. Does Traylon Burks provide that for them? He's the best bet. Robert Woods is also worth a look. He's got 14 targets in his last two games, too. Deeper leagues is not a horrible situation to pivot back to him because they're trying. They're trying to throw the ball with a little bit

more regularity, which is I think needed for their long-term goals. They all need to be regular. I guess it needs to be said that Burks over Williams, if you can only get one of them, right? I mean, they're Jamison may not play for another three weeks. You know, it's just, they open the window, you know? So yeah, you're talking about, I'm sorry.

Burke's over Williams. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just making sure. Yeah, no. Um, uh, yeah. So, all right, let's, all right, let's finish up here. Jamie, real quick, give me your 30-second thoughts

on the Chiefs wide receivers because there are a lot of moving parts here. I'll lean towards Sky more, assuming everybody's out. Assuming no Juju, no Juju, and no Tony because Hardman's out for four games or three more games. I would lean towards Sky more over Justin Watson and MBS. I don't know what the hell is going on with MBS. That was just a disaster.

One catch for 18 yards. That's MBS. More targets, more has more upside. I hope that he's now the Hardman, Tony fallout, the guy that's going to be sort of the gadget player for them as well. So Watson, I think, could have the huge potential play, big play capabilities. He has that. He's shown us that. But Sky Moore, I think, is going to huge potential play, big play capabilities. He has that. He's shown us that.

But Sky Moore, I think, is going to get more targets, so I'll lean toward that. And do you guys think Demarcus Robinson could become a truly reliable number two or number three wide receiver, or is he just going to be kind of boom or bust? I think Dave laid it out right. I don't think he's going to be reliable in that sense.

So that's something that you should remove from your vocabulary when it comes to really any Ravens receiver for the rest of the season. But he's clearly become the de facto number one guy, you know, number two in terms of passing option, because Mark Andrews is going to be the best guy there. But Devin DuVernay not evolved into that guy. I don't think Deshaun Jackson evolves into that guy. I don't think they have that guy on their roster. And so by default, Lamar Jackson's connection with Demarcus Robinson in two of the last three games is something to buy into. So as a number three receiver, I think you can take the chance on starting him this week. Are you excited to add any of the following players? Excited to add Nico Collins, Mac Hollins, Julio Jones, Zay Jones. Very rhymey here. Nico Collins, Mac Hollins, Julio Jones, Zay Jones. Very rhymey here. Nico Collins, Mac Collins, Julio Jones, Zay Jones. Jones rhymes with Jones, right?

Richie James. Jones Jones. Excited to add any of them, Dave? Nico, Mac, Julio, Zay, Richie James. Zay, a little bit in full PPR as a bench receiver, but he's like waiver claim number four this week if I need a wide receiver. So I'm not very excited.

Would I take him over Demarcus Robinson, for example? I think I would, but it's not with enthusiasm. Okay. And Nico Collins, just want to point out his playing time has really increased.

He's been over 77% of the snaps in four straight healthy games. He was not doing that earlier on in the season. All right. Tight ends, tight ends. Dawson Knox has a great matchup this week at Detroit. And David Njoku didn't play much last week, but you can still hopefully buy into him facing the Bucs, who are 25th against tight ends.

They've been kind of up and down. Darren Waller, you can stash. Jamie, are you excited to add Evan Ingram this week? Jawan Johnson, Austin Hooper, Logan Thomas, Foster Morrow. I feel like it's kind of a crappy week, but what do you think about these guys? You have Ingram, Jawan Johnson, Austin Hooper, Logan Thomas, Foster Morrow. It's definitely a crappy week. I think you look at Ingram and just hope that what Austin Hooper, Logan Thomas, Foster Morrow. It's definitely a crappy week.

You know, I think you look at Ingram and just hope that what he was doing prior to the bye week is something that, you know, sustainable coming off the bye week. Not an easy matchup, like you said, against the Ravens. But, you know, at least the targets have been somewhat consistent. Jawan Johnson, you're hoping he finds the end zone. You know, so when you're talking about tight under bus type of guys right now, he's a leader in the clubhouse over the last month. And then Foster, how do you pronounce his last name? Morrow. All right, Foster Morrow. When he's taking on the Seahawks, you can take a look.

You can take a look at the game of the week. No, it's music. It's not only me. It's you're based on the matchup there because Seattle has been so bad against tight ends. So, you know, he was a huge disappointment against the Broncos, but that's a tougher matchup. The Seahawks, not exactly the same thing.

Yeah. No, okay. No taste of Hill love? I mean, you know, you can. Well, I just, the article I read is on ESPN.com. I didn't even realize it. I didn't realize just how much he got in there. He had nine carries.

So it just seems like they're going to make it. At what point in the game were those nine carries? I think sprinkled in throughout. You know, I, you know what? Like, I want to check Andy Dalton's snap count. I don't usually check quarterback snap counts because, you know, they usually play about 100%. They're going to get destroyed by the same. Andy Dalton played 70% of the snaps.

He was off the field for 30% of the snaps. I mean, they were intentionally getting Taysom Hill more involved. I just... It's such a bad week for tight end. People are going to be desperate. So I just want to throw

the name out there. But, okay, I understand. It's... You couldn't have more downside than Taysom Hill. It's such a bad week by comparison for tight end. I think so. I think we've been more excited about guys. Our guy missing is Pitts. more downside than Taysom Hill. It's such a bad week by comparison for tight end.

I think so. I think we've been more excited about guys. My guy is missing is Pitts. Oh, I just meant the waiver wire tight ends. Not the all the tight ends. I meant the waiver. You think it's normal? I feel like there have been

weeks where... You know, it's funny. In the last two weeks, David Njoku's been more available, and I've been excited about him, and he's not played and had a terrible game. I wouldn't worry about that, though. That first game back with the high ankle sprain. Yeah.

Yeah, he played something like 35% of the snaps. I was encouraged. While he did not play to his level of normal production or even playing time, there was the one catch where he tried to leap over the, you know, jump over the defender. He loves to leap. He's a leaper.

But that, that, that shows me that he's probably back. And you know, that was not the rest of the game. Dave, any thoughts on tight end this week? None that are any different than that.

What we've talked about. Yeah. Doesn't work unless it's the actual game of the week. I think Engram and Jawan Johnson are the most interesting. Who would you prefer? It's the tight end of the week, yeah. Who would you prefer, Engram or Jawan?

You need a sad song, not a happy song for tight end of the week this week. Engram over Jawan Johnson. But both are low upside tight ends, preferably in PPR. I thought about... Yeah, I'll take Jawan in non-PPR. I thought about...

I don't think I'm going to have the courage to do this, but recording an acoustic version of the Game of the Week with my guitar. It's the Game of the Week. Like, just getting very somber, but... And the opportunity for you to sing. Yeah. And play. All right.

DSTs. We love it. So Randy, Randy Newman would love the DSTs this week. The chiefs, the Steelers, pretty random. The Broncos,

the chiefs get the Rams with probably without Stafford. They're getting a lot of sacks lately. The Steelers get the Colts. They are, they are a layup every week. The Colts are a good matchup. The Steelers get the Colts. They are a layup. Every week, the Colts are a good matchup. The Broncos get the Panthers, another great matchup. The Dolphins get the Texans. Every

DST has done well against the Texans this year. And the Buccaneers get the Browns. You should be able to find a good DST off waivers. Cameron Dicker, Ryan Suckup, Joey Sly, Jason Sanders, Matthew Wright at kicker. Want some IDPs?

Yes. Yes, I would. Juwan Bentley, linebacker for the Patriots. He's had 10 and 9 tackles in each of his past two games. He's the best one that I can find. In our IDP leagues, J. Ron Curse, defensive back for the Cowboys. He's had four good games that have been productive for leagues where tackles count. I'd go get him.

Looks like Will Harris is going to continue to have a role in the secondary for the Lions. And Rodney McLeod, back in the starting lineup for the Indianapolis Colts. Wiley veteran, who's been giving you decent points in IDP leagues. I'd go after Will Harris or J-Ron Curse first. Curse ahead of Harris. Let me do the drop. Marcus Williams also could return soon for the Ravens, so that's another guy to keep an eye on.

Let me do the drop-o-meter real quick here. DJ Moore. DJ Moore. He's droppable i'd like to see what how he plays with darnold or when walker comes back it's so funny it's like i'd like to see how he does with baker i'd like to see how he does with pj walker i like to see what he does i don't want to see him with baker anymore i've had enough of that i'd like to see him on a new team already. Yeah. Darnell Mooney. I'd like to see him with Patrick Mahomes. Don't drop Darnell Mooney. Allen Robinson, 86% rostered.

I think he's definitely droppable. I'd drop him before Moore. Tyler Higbee. Who has the worst quarterback? Depends on who the quarterback is for the Panthers. Higbee's droppable and non-PPR. Yeah. That 4-for-45 is going to win you a week, one of these weeks.

James Robinson, 90%. I'd hold through the quarterback change. Agreed. Greg Dolsic. I'd hold through the quarterback chain. Ingram or Dulcich? Ingram. I'd move to Ingram.

Probably Jawan Johnson too. Over Dulcich? Okay. Yeah. We got a couple minutes left. Quick thoughts on San Francisco 38, Arizona 10. Jimmy Garoppolo with 33.4 fantasy points. You know that whole storyline about who would be left out?

No one. I know. Juan Jennings. I mean, what did IU have? Four targets? He caught two catches. They were both touchdowns. That's how everyone gets involved, right?

Nailed a photographer in the you-know-where with the football. I did not see that. I have got to see that. Wow. On the first touchdown. Right in the cylinder of sensitivity. I think it was the first touchdown. Any big takeaways here?

I mean, it's now two weeks of McCaffrey not having huge games because Elijah Mitchell is there. So take that for what it's worth. So I made a great trade in the IDP League. You still love that. I traded him for Aaron Jones and Brady. I was a genius. I told you at the time, I said,

when Elijah Mitchell comes back, they're going to split carries evenly. They did not. I mean, the only thing McC they're going to split carries evenly. I wouldn't. They did not. I mean the only thing McCaffrey was missing was touchdown. They did split carries but not touches and not playing time. With Garoppolo in the game McCaffrey still played 70% of the snaps. One of the 49ers beat writers say that Kyle Shannon took a page out of Bill

Walsh's book which I think it makes a ton of sense is throw to score run to win. They were very past having the first half and very run having the second half so that's that's good for mitchell if you expect them to win it's just you still look at this team and you say there are too many mouths to feed i mean they're not all going to score debo samuel had 37 yards and a touchdown rushing he scored on a reverse basically or in the round whatever it was it was a tremendous play and that's the cardinals

i mean look the cardinals are bad yards after catch but that's basically the same thing right i mean they just can't tackle anyone right you called that yeah i thought deba would have a good game uh he had nine targets iuk only had four he scored two touchdowns kiddle you know played arizona but do you feel any differently about them this week than you did last week? I don't think you're changing how you're putting them in your lineups. Nobody's benching Debo Samuel at this point. Nobody is probably benching Brandon

Ayuk at this point, coming off the stretch of games that he's had. And then Kittle plays a position where you've got to be pretty lucky to have somebody better than him. Maybe you picked up Dalton Schultz after he was dropped earlier in the season or you know uh somebody you know you traded for somebody when kittle was struggling or banged up early in the year so you know i i think you just have to treat

it as there's going to be games like we saw two weeks ago where both kittle and and debo were bad there's going to be a week where iuke is bad there's going to be a week where probably another week or two where all three of them are great. It's an offense. I think they're the best team in the NFC. You look at the way that they're probably going to pummel some teams, the Saints this week in particular, it's going to be an opportunity for all of them to eat. Hopefully,

they all get their turkey and sides aplenty on Thanksgiving weekend. Dave, for the Cardinals thing about Hopkins. I don't know if you'd notice, but he's awesome. But, uh,

James Connor, James Connor got the goal line touchdown. He only had two catches, but this, there's no way he was going to have a good rush average against the 49ers, but he's gotten a touchdown now in, uh, in two straight games.

No, I don't think he's going to have a good rushing average against anybody except the Chargers, who he happens to play next week. So I'm excited to watch him in that game. He was awful. He had four runs of four-plus yards and five runs of one yard or fewer.

Yeah, the offensive line's bad. He's not explosive. He's just physical. You hope he finds the end zone. I do like his chances to return as a top 15-ish running back in PPR this week. So happy to have Connor in my lineup for at least one week, and then he goes on by. And yeah, you're right.

DeAndre Hopkins, pretty good. Don't see his targets going away. No matter who the quarterback is, no matter who the opponent is, no matter what the situation is, must-start fantasy wide receiver. Everybody knew that already. Do they have any other must-starts? Kyler, when he's healthy, I guess he would qualify. Marquise Brown, if he gets back into his target share,

but that would probably cost the slot receiver slash tight ends getting their targets when Brown comes back. That's my prediction, is that Brown goes back to like eight targets per game. Hopkins gets his dozen. Everybody else gets scraps. Okay. Thanks, guys. Good show. We'll talk to you

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