Fantasy Football Today - Waiver Wire! Making Sense of a Tricky Waiver Wire Week (10/15 Fantasy Football Podcast)

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

Are James Cook, Jordan Mason, Aaron Jones and Rachaad White going to play? Since we don't know the answer right now, it's tough to know who to prioritize on the waiver wire, but we'll tell you our favorites (5:00) including those replacement running backs but also Juju Smith-Schuster, Demario Douglas and Christian Watson. How much FAB should you spend this week (8:55)? ... We talk about the best way to approach the waiver wire in Week 7 (14:00) as you might be better off skipping RB unless you are desperate. Then we've got news and notes (15:40) and the top three at each position: QB (22:15), RB (26:25), WR (33:45), TE (37:35), DST (39:30) and Kicker. We discuss Drake Maye, the Rams wide receivers, Taysom Hill and more ... Options in shallow leagues (41:00) and deep leagues (46:50), a recap of Bills-Jets (49:30) before we knew about the Davante Adams trade, and a longer look at the waiver wire (55:45) at each position including who to drop ... Email us at [e-mail] Fantasy Football Today is available for free on the Audacy app as well as Apple Podcasts, Spotify and wherever else you listen to podcasts Watch FFT on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/fantasyfootballtoday SUBSCRIBE to FFT Express on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-express/id1528634304 Follow FFT Express on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6qyGWfETSBFaciPrtvoWCC?si=6529cbee20634da8 SUBSCRIBE to FFT Dynasty on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dynasty/id1696679179 FOLLOW FFT Dynasty on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2aHlmMJw1m8FareKybdNfG?si=8487e2f9611b4438&nd=1 SUBSCRIBE to FFT DFS on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fantasy-football-today-dfs/id1579415837 FOLLOW FFT DFS on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5zU7pBvGK3KPhfb69Q1hNr?si=1c5030a3b1a64be2 Follow our FFT team on Twitter: @FFToday, @AdamAizer, @JameyEisenberg, @daverichard, @heathcummingssr Follow the brand new FFT TikTok account: https://www.tiktok.com/@fftoday Join our Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/FantasyFootballToday/ Sign up for the FFT newsletter https://www.cbssports.com/newsletter You can listen to Fantasy Football Today on your smart speakers! Simply say "Alexa, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast" or "Hey Google, play the latest episode of the Fantasy Football Today podcast." Visit the betting arena on CBSSports.com for all the latest sportsbook reviews and sportsbook promos. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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He's just going to go the distance. Now, here's some combination of Adam, Dave, Jamie, and Heath. Tuesday morning, October 15th. Welcome to the show. It's Fantasy Football Today, presented by BetMGM, the sportsbook born in Vegas. Adam, Dave, and Jamie here talking waiver wire. Guys, I have been doing this for 16 years now.

This is the best waiver wire since last week because the guy that we told you to pick up last week is still available in almost 60% of leagues. But no, I'm overwhelmed. This looks like another loaded week, Jamie, right? Does it look loaded? It's pretty good, but it's a weird week because you got a few running back situations

that could give you guys that you could start, but the matchups are unbelievably awful. Yeah. And there's no guarantee that the starters are even going to be out ahead of them. So it's a weird week because there's potential paths to starting jobs for about four guys. And by the time you make your waiver claims, we may find out that all four of those scenarios are moot. Yeah, that's a good point. That would make this week a lot less exciting.

But the guy I was talking about that we were pumping up last week is Juju Smith-Schuster. I believe he's 43% rostered. You can get the guy who led the Bucs in rushing in week six. That would be Sean Tucker. You could get the guy who led the Bills in rushing in week six. In fact, Ray Davis is rostered in fewer leagues than James Cook was started in last night, which is sad.

And you can get the guy who led the Patriots in rushing in week six and has the best matchup this week. Drake May led the Patriots in rushing last week. Yeah, there you go. Let me, before I get to your top three waiver wire priorities, if there's one player out there who's, you know, in the 80% range or whatever, but like just happens to be available in your league

that you jump at would be your number one priority, who would it be? I'll just throw out Caleb Williams. Would it be Caleb Williams? Okay. I'm not sure if there is one other than Caleb. And the problem with Caleb is, obviously, you can't start him this week.

Raheem Mostert comes to mind because of H&N's injury and the great matchup. What's his rostership? 83%. Yeah, okay. So that's even under 20%. But yes, I would agree with you. Because of HN's injury and the great matchup. What's his roster ship? 83%. Yeah. Okay. So that's even under 20%, but yes, I would agree with you. I usually look at guys for that list is between 85% and lower.

Okay. So we're talking about guys in the seventies that you're saying use and start. Whatever. Like, oh my gosh, I can't believe Evan Ingram's on the waiver wire. I don't move to number one on your waiver list. Yeah. Who would you howl over?

Yeah, she's annoyed. She's a cutie. Tyler Algier's not bad. Great matchup against Seattle. 66% roster. It'd be hard to pass up Evan Ingram for me and Caleb Williams. And Mogo dropped Caleb Williams. Well, I still have him in three leagues.

Give me a break here. Oh, Antonio Gibson. Nah. All right. All right, well, let's figure that out. It's a good matchup against Jacksonville. It is, yeah. That's true.

We'll figure that out as we go along. All right, just so you know, Jordan Mason did practice. Doesn't mean he's going to play, but he practiced. Aaron Jones did some practicing. It doesn't mean he's going to play, but they have Kansas City. No,

they have Detroit. Sorry. It's San Francisco has Kansas City, but those are Kansas City's number one against running backs and Detroit's number three against running backs. Although they did get, suffer two injuries on their defensive line in week six,

but that's the matchups for Garendo and to end Ty Chandler. With that said, Jamie, who are the top three priorities this week? Juju would be one. If you just want to play it safe and just go to the receivers, Juju would be one. DeMario Douglas would be two and Christian Watson will be three.

Okay. And Dave, how about you? Top three. juju would be one i'm putting isaac garendo at the top of my list of running back i know the mason practice on tuesday he was in a non-contact jersey i'm thinking that they hold out mason it's risky but he would be two and then I'd put Watson three. Yeah. So with Garendo, the chiefs have been so good, right? The 49ers do though. There's no guarantee.

It's Garendo getting the majority touches. Right. Patrick Taylor was working in there as well. Patrick Taylor could play passing downs. Sure. But I think Garendo would be the guy who leads them and carries. I'll put him third. Let me,

let me amend it to go Juju one, Watson two, Garendo three. Yeah, and for me, the running backs, Chandler is the one you should get first. Even if you can't use him this week? Well, I mean, we've got to see what Aaron Jones' status is, but if right now you're talking about just guys that I have the chance to play for this week, if everybody's going to start in terms of their respective injury replacements, it'd be Ray Davis because of what he just did, even though the matchup's not being in Tennessee.

But I think he's looking at it right now based on reports. If Aaron Jones isn't going to be out, then he's the safest one in terms of Chandler. If you told me that the best run defenses in football were the Chiefs, Titans, Ravens, and Lions. That's all. All the replacements. Yeah, that's the matchups for the top four guys on the waiver wire this week. Yeah, the one thing, though, with the Lions, granted he's a great pass rusher,

but they did just lose a big piece of their defense. Yeah, and they lost the rotational defensive tackle, too, Pico. I think he's out maybe for the season. He's out for a while. All right, so Juju Smith-Schuster is number one for both of you guys. Christian Watson's in the top three. Dave had Isaac Garendo second. Jamie had Demario Douglas second.

Yeah, I'll flip it. Put Watson second for me. Okay. And then how do you feel about Demario Douglas, Dave? He's up there. I like him a lot. I just don't want to buy in after two games on a Patriots offense. I think there'll be more scoring and more opportunity, relatively speaking, with Watson rest of

season than Demario. Douglas has nine targets in three of his last four games. I mean, if you only want to care about one game, this is with Drake May. Six catches, 92 yards, one touchdown. Oh, it's awesome. Yeah. No, I'm just saying. 17% rostered, and he faces Jacksonville this week. They're 31st against receivers. Then after that, though, it's the Jets, the Titans, and the Bears. So there is that. Also, he leads wide receivers with 20 or more targets.

There's a lot of them in slot rate. He's in the slot like 88% of the time, which is really high. Number two, basically tied with him. He has almost the same exact receiving profile as Jackson Smith and Jigba. So if you like JSN, this is the guy who's doing a lot of the same things. Okay.

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What are we thinking for fab this week? This is an exciting week. Could be a lot of money changing hands. I wouldn't go crazy with it. You know, there's just a lot of guys, you know, so there's a lot of guys that running back that are all sort of fitting into a similar profile as we're discussing, you know,

Chandler may or may not be the starter. Garendo may or may not be the starter. Ray Davis may or may not be the starter, you know, so there's Tucker may or may not be, you know, working as the second guy or maybe the lead guy for the B the bucks. I would think Irving still is the lead guy, but we don't know Rashad white's going to return. So there's just a lot of things that play here when you're talking about how much fab you actually want to spend on these running backs. And then when it comes to receivers, this is where I would probably spend a little bit more

of your fab, you know, so you're looking at Juju as hopefully the guy for the chiefs and, you know, building off of what he did in his last game, Not an easy matchup, obviously, against San Francisco, but, you know, still looking at the potential of long-term with Rashi Rice not coming back. Douglas has, you know, the potential lead receiver for Drake May. It looks like an offense that's going to be a much better offense, clearly, with the young quarterback as opposed to what Jacoby Reset had. Christian Watson, we talked about this preseason and what he could be. So a lot of upside there as well. Is he going to get consistent targets? That's the question.

But now Dontay Vienwix is out for several weeks, so that should open up more playing time or at least more consistent playing time for Watson. So the receivers, there's a little bit more, I think, more sustainable value there. But clearly when you're talking about your team, you're talking about what you need. I wouldn't necessarily go crazy with the quarterbacks.

There's a lot of guys kind of in a similar situation. The tight ends also, you know, feels like there's a lot of guys in some similar situations. You know, Hunter Henry looks like another player who could benefit clearly with the quarterback upgrade there for May in New England. Zach Ertz, you know, back-to-back games with a lot of targets, you know, so, you know, he's somebody that you can just buy into

as a safe option. And then maybe Taysom Hill's going to return, you know, to an offense that is very depleted right now. If Rashid Shaheed is out, you know, Chris Olave most likely not going to play. So short-term long-term, you know, we've said this a lot about Taysom Hill, hopefully he'll stay healthy. Uh, but he may have a huge role in the offense moving forward, especially if, uh, um, the quarterback situation remains the same and the receivers are banged up. Wouldn't desperation be your guide for fab spending this week? If you're one in five, two and four, or even better than that, but your team stinks and you know it, and you've got a chance to go and pick up one of these guys

who could make a difference short-term and long-term, I think you do spend up. Now, I think in a lot of leagues, Juju and Watson are already rostered. That'll push Demario Douglas up into being somebody that maybe you go 25%, 30% on. Just to lock in somebody who should get good volume. Adam, you talked about the target volume. And we know he's going to play in the slot. I hate the schedule, and I'm always a little skeptical about receivers

with young quarterbacks on suspect teams. I don't want to jump into that pool cannonball style if I don't have to. Yeah, right. And that's the Christian Watson versus Demario Douglas argument. It's an interesting one because probably going to get more targets for Demario Douglas and probably going to be on a, no, definitely going to be on a higher scoring offense.

You'd have to think for Christian Watson and obviously a more explosive player, but still a guy who, there have been circumstances, no doubt. I think week one is really the only game you can look at that where he was healthy. He hasn't played, Christian Watson hasn't played

more than 63% of the snaps in any game so far. And I just don't know what his real role is. I mean, he just may be... But with Wicks, I don't know, with Wicks being hurt, maybe that changes things. Maybe he plays more because Wicks is going to be week to week with a shoulder injury. You know, we're going to go to break.

I want to... All right. We got to talk about, yes, the desperation. What do you need? If you don't need a running back this week, how much does that change the way you approach the waiver wire? We'll talk about it in a minute. Now, if you haven't signed up yet for BetMGM, let's do it and use the bonus code FANTASY, and you're going to get up to a $1,500 first bet offer on your first wager with BetMGM. Here's how it works. Download the BetMGM app, sign up using the bonus code FANTASY,

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And if you don't need a running back this week, then you should probably make a wide receiver or a D or a player at any position other than running back. Well, I don't know about that. There's still a lot of appeal to getting one of these handcuffs, but if, but the,

the running backs could be just one week fixes, or in some of these cases, they could be zero week fixes. You could pick up Ty Chandler and Aaron Jones could play. You could pick up Garendo. You could pick, you know, and all these guys play. You could pick up Garendo. You could pick, you know, and all these guys have bad matchups. So I guess that's the conversation I want to have to lay it out for the fantasy managers.

If you don't need a running back this week, what should you do? Yeah, pivot. You go for the wide receivers. You go for Taysom Hill. And I don't know if there's really a whole lot else to say. There's a ton of wide receivers out there. Again It feels like every week we can say that, but there's a lot of really interesting wide receivers beyond the first three that we talked about. Okay. Okay. Then let's go to the news and notes. Anthony Richardson is expected to start this week for reals for realsies um mike mcdaniel expects tua to play again this season but he did

not say when so jamie if i'm trying to make a trade for tua or waddle or tyree kill or whatever what what do you think what's the best advice here for fantasy managers looking at the dolphins passing game i think you got to go based on on the timeline that we have at least right now, which is he could return in week eight. And if he can return in week eight, then you're hoping you're getting the best of Tyreek Hill, the best of Jalen Waller, the best of Tua Tungabelo. So the fact that, you know, he was optimistic is great.

The fact that he wasn't concrete about when he'll return is a little bit troubling, that they're still trying to get clearance or however you phrase it. But the first game that he can return is that week eight matchup, and I would still be trying to aggressively acquire Tyreek Hill, lesser degree aggressively acquire Jalen Waddell, and hope that you get Tua from week eight on. Heath has done a great job, you know, illustrating the schedule for the Dolphins

every time we've talked about this and how it gets tough for them in terms of some opponents and weather situations at the end of the season. But if you can get Tyreek Hill for four or five games before that or Jalen Waddle four or five games before that of what they're capable of doing

and you're not giving up a huge amount in return, then I would try and do so for sure okay so let's go to running back news travis etn is week to week with a hamstring injury they've got the dream matchup this week against the patriots i think it's something like eight running backs have 80 rushing yards or a touchdown against the patriots in six games jordan mason and aaron j Jones practicing a little bit. Devon Achan still in the concussion protocol. He was out there in a non-contact jersey on Monday, I believe. So they're coming off their bye. Tampa Bay, Dave, could use all three running backs. They've got Baltimore on Monday. Is this going to be just a fantasy disaster going forward? What do you think about the Bucs backfield?

It's going to be uncertain, that's for sure. We can't sit here and say that, oh yeah, Sean Tucker has locked up the job and he's going to be a stud for the rest of the year. Bucky Irving's done a good job. And we know that Rashad White, at least at bare minimum, can play on passing downs and do a good job there. What I'm kind of hoping for is that the Bucs tell Rashad White, Hey, take it easy. You've got, you know, we've got time on your side, you have a seat and they just narrow it down to the same two that crushed the saints in the fourth quarter last week. And, uh, look, I think Tucker looked better. And this is somebody that I've talked about sparingly last year. He was one of my favorite undrafted free agent rookies. And when he got a chance to play, he was terrible.

This is the first time he saw extended action. He looked amazing. And it wouldn't surprise me in the least if the Bucs went to those two as a two-headed monster against Baltimore. The problem is it's Baltimore. And we know that the Ravens are certainly one of the toughest run defenses around. Jerome Ford is going to miss some time with, I believe, a hamstring injury. Nick Chubb hopefully back this week, though.

So we're looking at that. If not, Deontay Foreman would step into a bigger role and Pierre Strong. Jonathan Brooks, they could open the 21-day window for Jonathan Brooks this week. He could return to practice. He's expected to return to practice this week, in which case he will have 21 days to be activated from that point on. Tajay Spears week to week with a hamstring injury. And have we heard anything about James Conner? Is everything kind of status quo there?

I believe he's fine, according to Gannon yesterday. Gannon said that it was a game script thing, why he wasn't playing into the second half, but he was getting his ankle or something, so I would not start Spencer Rattler this week against the Broncos. Jaden Reed appears to be fine, but Dontavian Wicks is week to week with a shoulder injury. Marvin Harrison's is a concussion protocol. Mike Evans, I'm guessing he's fine,

but he played, I brought this up on yesterday's show, he played 47% of the snaps. So obviously he was dealing with something against the Saints last week. And tight end, Dallas Goddard, hamstring injury. We'll see on him. Taysom Hill was limited. He got back to practice.

He faces Denver on Thursday. And on the offensive line, the big one that, of course, I'm waiting to see is what's the deal with Andrew Thomas. I would call him, I know you all love Malik Neighbors,

I would call him the best player on the Giants offense. And he is an elite left tackle. So he was playing through a foot injury at the end of yesterday's,

or Monday, Sunday's game, Sunday's game. And Andrew Thomas will have an MRI and we'll find out probably today. Jordan Maialata,

left tackle for the Eagles. He's going to miss probably a couple of weeks. That's big. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Especially against, I got to say it arguably the best pass Russian football.

I believe the giants lead the NFL in sacks and we saw what they did to Joe Burrow and Gino Smith the last two weeks and Zach Frazier for the Steelers, their center. He's going to be out a little while. Maybe a long while. So that stinks for him. And Ryan Kelly, center for the Colts. He's banged up too. Big defensive stuff here. Aiden Hutchinson

we know about. Kyle Pico, Carlton Davis. Three players for two starters and one rotational player for the Lions. They got hurt. The Seahawks beefed up their run defense. They acquired Jacksonville defensive tackle Roy Robertson Harris for a sixth-round pick. The Jets may be getting closer to getting Hassan Redick back, but they lost two defensive players in their secondary last night.

They're at Pittsburgh on Sunday night. DJ Reed and Chuck Clark got hurt. Four Cardinals defenders got hurt last week. See if they can get back to face the Chargers. And Patrick Sertan's probably not going to play. And the Commanders lost two key defensive linemen. Pass rusher and a tackle

for this, well, Allen's for this season. Allen is huge for them. I don't know. Torn Peck, I think he's done for the year. Yeah, I don't know about Dorrance Armstrong, how long he's out, but, and a good news for the Eagles. Darius slay his day to day.

Okay. Top three at each position. You know, Jamie, we haven't talked about the quarterbacks yet. Other than Caleb Williams, who's 83% rostered, but yeah,

there, there certainly are a lot of names to know here. Give me the top three quarterbacks. Top three would be Drake. May Matthew Stafford with the hope that Cooper Cup does return and still Daniel Jones. I like the matchup for him this week,

although he's just been so bad at home. I don't understand. He just cannot play in his own building. Well, the fans are so nice to him. I don't really, you know, it's so confusing. But yeah, matchups are good. Drake May's got the best matchup.

Jaguars giving up the most fantasy points. Four straight quarterbacks scored 26 or more points against the Jaguars. Three of them have scored 32 or more. One of them is Joe Flacco.

And Matthew Stafford has Vegas. And Daniel Jones has Philadelphia, which actually, they haven't allowed more than 21 fantasy points to any quarterback

other than Baker Mayfield. But still, they seem good. So you'd rather have Daniel Jones than Andy Dalton, who's at Washington? Just with neighbors coming back, I'm excited to see him with his top receiver again. And I do think that they'll be throwing a lot in that game because hopefully the Eagles offense finally shows up.

Where does Anthony Richardson fit in all this? He's 82%. He'd be the first one that. Okay. And then for the last question on the quarterbacks, Drake May, is this in your mind a one week thing? Potentially, but you know, look, if he starts to play well, you know, he's going to run a little bit. You're going to get a little bit of a wild ride as we saw. He had three turnovers in that game. But let's see. He comes off that Jacksonville game, and we start to see some other targets emerge.

They're going to be chasing points a lot of weeks. So I don't mind him. I don't think he's going to be somebody that you're going to feel a lot of confidence in right now to say he's a one-week, excuse me, a rest-of-season guy in a one-quarterback league. He's mostly rostered, I would assume, at this point, in most super flex and two-quarterback leagues based on his roster percentage.

But, I mean, we're still in the midst of bi-weeks we're still dealing with some quarterback injuries if he has another solid game against jacksonville and you're looking at some of these other guys are just struggling why wouldn't you consider okay because if i don't need them this week i i can't feel good about trusting them against the jets the titans or the bears just going back to their schedule yeah no i mean it's not no, I mean, it's not a slam dunk. But, I mean, when you're talking about 14-team leagues, some very competitive deep benches, 12-team leagues, and you find someone who's going to get you maybe 18 points in a bad matchup,

17 points in a bad matchup, four points for passing touchdowns where he's going to run, this is hard to overlook. I don't think he's a slam dunk by any stretch, but compared to some of the quarterbacks, it's like, you tell me right now, Matthew Stafford doesn't have cup or pooping the cooler for the next month because their,

their injuries. Oh yeah. Then Drake may has got a higher ceiling than him. Andy may lose his job. You know what I mean? There's a lot of quarterback, you know, scenarios that play here that don't necessarily say Drake may is not

better than those guys. So I don't think it's a slam dunk by any stretch, but you gotta be a little bit encouraged what he just did against Houston. That's not a good, that's not an easy matchup and spare point. He came through with 25 fantasy points there. So what would you say if he were taking on the dolphins? You'd love Drake May,

right? Yeah. Although the dolphins have been very good against quarterbacks. Okay. But in week 12, that's who he faces. And there are six teams on buying week 12 so yeah that's perfect week 12 drake may is perfect now i might be looking too far ahead

you might not want to commit to drake may in week seven for something happening in week 12 but let's put it this way if he if he goes out and he blasts the jaguars which is very possible and then he blasts the jets the week after that you're not going to be able to pick up Drake May after that point. So if you're looking long term and Drake May is appealing to you, then I think now is the time to try and stash him and hold on to him for the long haul. Would you start Drake May this week at Jacksonville in London over Patrick Mahomes at San Francisco.

Yes. Yeah, I think I would. All right. And let's go. Yeah. Well, I mean, hey, it's it's a game of stats. Not, you know, who's going to the Hall of Fame or who the better quarterback is. Running backs.

OK, let's get a we have a Twitter poll to show here. Let's bring that up. Says if both running backs are free agents in your league, who would you rather add, knowing that Aaron Jones is not expected to play? Do you stand by that, Jamie, that Aaron Jones is not expected to play? No, I mean, it's surprising that when I did this, I don't think he had shown up at practice. But, you know, unofficial workout, so it's hard to say what his designation would be.

I think you've got to put both these guys in a similar situation. You know, with Mason showing up at practice in a non-contact jersey, that's a great sign and jones showing up at practice in any capacity is a great sign so they both may be able to return um i actually changed the order since the show started i'd rather have ray davis as the number one running back this week okay so the poll was would rather have ty chandler or garendo and 77 said ty chandler This was also before Monday Night's Game 2. Yeah. All right. So, Ray Davis. Okay. So, Jamie's Ray Davis, Chandler Garando. Yep.

And Dave, how about you? If I knew for sure that James Cook was going to be out, I would agree. But I would say, I would assume that we'd have the same type of uncertainty about Cook as we do with Jordan Mason. This is the problem with this week. They're, they're all in uncertain situations. They are all in tough matchups, you know? And so to your point, Adam, I'm going to rephrase the question. Cause yeah, I think this is what Dave was getting at.

If you're looking long-term short-term versus the run at the running back position only, like when it comes to these guys, the reason why the 49ers is a little bit tough to trust is because there's two guys that could be sharing the role in place of Mason. That's true. In the case of Buffalo, you saw what they did. It was the Ray Davis show in the case of Minnesota.

It would almost certainly be the Ty Chandler show. So that's why I like those two situations better than the San Francisco situation. Again, considering they're all in tough matchups. If any of them had easy matchups, it would be okay. Take the guy with the easiest matchup and just, considering they're all in tough matchups. If any of them had easy matchups, it would be okay. Take the guy with the easiest matchup and just take your chances there. Now, long-term, you could be looking at it and say, I want to avoid all of this and maybe say Dearness Johnson, because Travis Etienne's week to week and

Tank Bigsby's probably not going to play on passing down. So maybe just say, okay, I'm going to take the second guy as a flex and play that out. However, that works in the next couple of weeks or even spin it further and say, does James Connor lose his job to some capacity? And I'm taking Trey Benson. Does Blake Corum make more sense because of a handcuff situation? And that's why for me, Ray Davis falls in that category also, because you've seen now what he can do in place of James Cook. So there's that lottery ticket appeal. Like the other guys really haven't done it. Isaac Grendel had one big run, but you also know, not only is Mason not out long-term, there's that other guy. Oh, by the way, looming that he's going to return to some point in Christian McCaffrey. So Davis has that lottery ticket appeal and has the short-term appeal. So for me, that's why I'm going to make the switch

and put them at the top. It's a compelling argument. What I bought into with Garendo was it's a 49ers running back, and we saw it in week one this year. When you've got that guy who's going to lead the 49ers in carries, matchups matter, but I also know that scheme matters and the way that that team will operate will matter. And Garendo, I think he's a solid running back. I would have told you that Ray Davis is probably on the same level as Garendo before last night's game after last night's game. Yeah. I think Ray Davis looked pretty good for, for the Buffalo bills. I'm just

worried about what happens if James Cook's toe suddenly gets a lot better after he saw Ray Davis go out there and run rough shot. And as Ray Davis go back to being a minimal part of the offense is even play on any third downs because Ty Johnson seemed to have that role in luck. He just looked like the guy that took James Cook's role, which was a little surprising, but I mean, I guess it makes sense in the end and obviously how he started the game. He looked good. So you can make the call on Davis over Garendo.

If you want to buy into what we saw from Davis. And if you think that the injury for James Cook is a little bit more severe than what Jordan Mason's dealing with. Yeah, I mean, I think that when you look at Aaron Jones's injury history, it's a soft tissue injury. You know, I would want to have Ty Chandler. I think my problem with Chandler is he's, he might be the worst running back. Just, he's just not that good. And he got some run last week or two weeks ago as he had the buy and just like, it wasn't 14 carries for 30 yards against the jets. Look what, look what Ray Davis just did to the jets, you know? So Chandler, I went back

and looked at his game logs from last year. He had one game rate over 20 carries and he had a good game, but you were getting three catches pretty much consistently, but you just wasn't that good. He just really didn't light the world on fire. Does have much better matchups if this injury happens to linger for Aaron Jones. Much better matchups after this week. So, you know, he's probably the worst running back, but maybe has the most potential to become a starter

because of what Jamie's been talking about for like six months, Aaron Jones' injury history. He's probably the worst running back, but maybe has the most potential to become a starter. Jamie's been talking about it for like six months, Aaron Jones' injury history. But let me give you three more names, right? Because these running backs, Ray Davis against Tennessee, Chandler against Detroit, Garando against the Chiefs, and who was the other one? Sean Tucker against Baltimore. Terrible matchups. There are three running backs who are about 75 percent rostered that actually have great matchups and they could be available and maybe it's a situation are we dropping these guys for them but how would

you rank Trey Sermon against the Dolphins who are 30th against running backs. Alexander Madison at the Rams. They stink against everyone. And Antonio Gibson at the Jaguars, or in London, they're 28th against running backs and they just traded away their defensive tackle. Are they better options this week than Ray Davis, Ty Chandler, Isaac Arendo, Sean Tucker? Gibson, yes.

Yep. Serm Yes. Yep. Uh, sermon. Yes. And Madison depends on Zamir white, but I would say close. I, I, I, right now I think I have a rank Gibson sermon Davis, and then I would not want to start the 49ers guys and I would not want to start channel. I currently have Gibson. Number one,

this is PPR for the week. Gibson's one Madison to Davis, a smidge behind him. And then sermon behind them. And I got to tell you, like, if you go back and you watch Tyler Goodson look better than Trey. That's exactly.

I was just about to say that I'm getting the cam acres, Daria Gunva, Wally Daria, Gunval Wally vibe from that situation where I wouldn't surprise me if, and we don't know if Jonathan Taylor is going to be back. Remondre Stevenson, Jonathan Taylor. We don't know what their status is.

Amir white. It's such a crazy week. So that's it. I mean, is that what makes Alexander Madison the most appealing one of anybody that we've got? Because white could return. Yeah.

I think Madison's won that job. I don't think so. He's been horrible the last two weeks. I don't think he's won the job because he hasn't done great since White has gone out. He has 29 carries. I don't know if any runbacks could do great for the Raiders. Well, that could be true, but he has 20... Alexander Madison has 29 carries for

72 yards... 71 yards and a touchdown over the last two games against Denver and Pittsburgh. Yeah. Yeah. It's a, it's a, it's wild. This running back second best matchup of any running back that we've talked

about. Yeah. You really gave me first. Okay. Wide receivers, Jamie, who are the top three? Juju's one. And then, you know, depending on what you like in terms of the Mario Douglas or Christian Watson,

I think that's two, three, three, two, however you want to view it. But Juju hopefully is going to be the guy for the Chiefs. You know, we haven't heard anything about a trade. There haven't been, you know, any rumors about, you know, them, at least in serious talks that have come out. So for now, based on the game that he just had prior to their bye week, I think you got to look at him and say, hopefully this is the Rashi Rice replacement.

Hopefully it's the guy that we saw in, in 2022 when he was, you know, putting up 13.9 PPR points per game for the chiefs and had some bigger games than that over the course of the season. So, I mean, you could,

you could pencil him in as a starter right now in most leagues. Yeah. I'm looking forward to talking about this position because the Rams wide receivers are also very interesting. If Cooper cup does not play Jordan, Whittington has played 92% or more of the snaps in two straight games. And he has eight to 10 targets in both of those games, two to Atwell scored 12.2 to 13.3 PPR fantasy points in three straight games.

They're coming off a buy, not a lot of buzz there. So you could look at the Rams guys. You may not even have to pick them up today, depending on if you know, knowing your league and how aggressive people are on waivers. buzz there so you could look at the rams guys you may not even have to pick them up today depending on if you know knowing your league and how aggressive people are on waivers like i can think of like the most casual leagues i play in i don't think anyone's picking up jordan whittington no well i think if they will if there's no cup i don't even know that you know look we will

but i'm just thinking i play in two leagues with like very casual leagues i don't know that maybe three or four guys in that league are going to be thinking, oh, I'll pick up Jordan Whittington. They're certainly not going to prioritize Whittington. If they look at his stats and it's full PPR, then I think that they'll consider him. Can we go back to the running backs for just a real quick second? Sure. This is going to be to Jamie's point on why Ray Davis is going to be better than Garendo.

We know that Ricky Pearsall is going to practice this week. He's got a chance to come back and play. Suddenly the 49ers are flush with wide receivers. What's happened in the past when the 49ers have not had a lot of good running backs available to them? Who plays running back? Devo. Devo, a little.

So what's stopping them? Yeah, here I am sitting thinking, oh yeah, Isaac Garendo is going to get all the carries. Well, what the hell? Maybe Devo gets in there and takes half of them away from garendo how many did debo have last week i don't think he had a ton i'd have to go back and see but i i wonder because it was 10 for garendo it was five for taylor it was four for debo and garendo had 10 after mason got hurt mason had nine yeah i i almost think that that's enough for me to make the switch

from Davis to Garendo. Just knowing that Garendo, I already said he's going to lose that third down roll to Patrick Taylor. I need a break here. Sorry, guys. Put me down for Ray Davis one after all. That's going to swing me. All right, we'll get tight ends, DSTs and kickers when we come back on fantasy football today. Dave Richard, who are the top tight ends to get this week? Asim Hill would be the first one that I would go after.

There's no guarantee that he's going to play. We've kind of been through this rigmarole with him before, but the fact that he was limited in practice, and the Saints are desperate for pass catchers right now. Hill can be that guy, 61% available. And because all the other tight ends that are out there are just kind of, eh, you're not going to be excited about them. If you add Hill and he doesn't play on Thursday, you can pivot.

And one of the pivots can be Jawan Johnson, who's been running a lot of routes for New Orleans, had three catches. I actually thought he'd have a better game with Rattler. But again, no Olave, no Rashid Shahid. They need people who are just going to be able to catch the ball and make a play after the catch. And I think Jawan Johnson can do that, and he's available in 85% of leagues. Hunter Henry, 66% available.

Noah Fant, 93% available. But Taysom Hill is at the top of the list. What did Cole Komet just do against the Jaguars? He did some great long-snapping work. He did some great long-snapping. Yeah, give me hunter henry first okay and hunter henry yeah i mean i would probably just i don't know i like i like kate otten ravens give up the fifth most fantasy points to tight ends i just buy it into the to baker mayfield

but also dalton schultz dalton schultz had eight targets it's not that bad of a waiver wire week at tight end no no it's it's pretty good okay so jamie likes hunter henry dave likes tasem hill at number one so just as a point of reference when when it's a good week at tight end on the waiver wire i my thought goes to who's going to be the guy that can be better than just a one or two week option and tasem hill would be potentially one of those guys for several weeks. If those receivers are hurt and Henry, because he plays a lot, I put,

I put Henry second, Jawan third, Fant fourth. I would hope for the saints that Olave is back weeks, week eight. Right. Okay. DSTs,

Jamie, who we got. It's a weird week again for that position because there's some great matchups, but they're terrible defenses. So I'm still going to buy into the Chargers, especially if there's no Marvin Harrison. So they gave up some late production to the Broncos, but Chargers, if they're available, they're not on our list,

but I thought they were when I first did this. The Saints get the Broncos. A little beat up defensively for the Saints, but we've seen the Broncos offense be a little up and down. Bengals get the Browns. It's the Deshaun Watson show. Commanders get the Panthers. That's been a favorable matchup for a lot of DSTs, as we saw for the Falcons.

And then the Rams against the Raiders. Love the Rams. Rams coming off the bye. Raiders have allowed at least 11 fantasy points to five of the past six DSTs. Only Carolina did not get it done against us. Just keep in mind, based on the report, that we could see both Devontae Adams and Jacoby Myers back out there, which makes this team much better.

That is true. Sure. Yeah, the Bengals, I mean, they played a lot better. They got a little healthier up front, played a lot better against the Giants, and even the Eagles' terrible defense sacked Deshaun Watson five times. I mean, this is unbelievable. I'm just going to do the math here. 16-19 plus 31 sacks in five games against the Cleveland Browns.

They are just miserable, and that's the Bengals' matchup this week. Okay, and kick's the Bengals matchup this week. Okay, and kickers, Jamie? Jake Bates gets the Vikings. Will Reichardt, Reichardt, Reichardt, whatever, gets the Lions. Reichardt gets the Lions. Cameron Dicker gets the Cardinals, and Austin Siebert gets the Panthers. Cool.

And we're going to start, we'll do some shallow leagues and deep leagues. We'll talk about the Bills and the Jets. And then we'll do the drop-o-meter and get to more. Yeah, there's a lot more to talk about on the waiver wire. But, Jamie, I'll give you the shallow league guys as per usual, which stands for usual. Who are the players who are, oh, in my leagues.

All these guys are available. Who are the shallow league guys? Yeah, you mentioned Caleb Williams. Obviously, if you can roster him through the bye week, do so. Justin Fields, not an easy matchup this week, but I still think you're looking at what he's accomplished and should have established himself as a starter. Anthony Richardson, clearly coming back healthy, hopefully takes advantage of the Dolphins matchup.

Geno Smith, I know not the best game last week, but has been fairly consistent. Two games before that was over 23 fantasy points in both of those. So who's the best in that group long-term? Caleb or Richardson? I'm still going to say Richardson, but Caleb's looking great right now. So you can make an argument for Caleb

over Richardson, but I'll still buy into the guy I like preseason. Hopefully that guy shows up. But those will be the top two. Sam Donald's been amazing to start the season. So tough matchup against the Jets last time we saw him, but hopefully does well against the Lions, especially without Hutchinson there. All those guys.

Fields could be great. It's a good group. Yeah. Darnold's 73% rostered. I mean, he might be available in your league out there. Would you start him with Darnold or Drake May this week? Darnold. Okay.

Shallow league running backs that Jamie has would be Raheem Mostert and then Jonathan Brooks. And then a lot of the guys that we talked about, Trey Sermon, Alexander Madison, Antonio Gibson, and Tyler Algier. What about the shallow league wide receivers? Yeah, not the most lengthy list of guys, but you are looking at some guys that could be helpful short-term and long-term.

Jacoby Myers, hopefully he's able to return, especially if Adams is traded. So had a very good game against Denver two weeks ago, didn't play last week. I think he'll be the go-to guy for the Raiders if Adams is not traded. Ladin McConkie, I still want to buy into him. Not the best game, but he got banged up in this game last week against Denver. Jalen Tolbert, I think is worth rostering through his bye week. Didn't have a great game last week, but still has plenty of upside, especially as long as Brandon Cooks is out.

Keenan Allen, hopefully, you know, what we saw last week is a sign of things to come. You make the same case for Romo Dunze if you want to. But Allen, I think, is just a little bit safer at this point. And then Josh Downs, hopefully he's not ruined by Anthony Richardson and his inaccuracies, but he looks like the best receiver for the Colts this year. Right. I was going to ask, you know, with Anthony Richardson likely starting this week, is Josh Downs more of an ad? Could you see dropping him?

Would you rather just hold and see what happens? And really the same question for Keenan Allen, because he only had five targets. He caught them all, scored two touchdowns, but he's going into a buy. Then the schedule is very good. It's like Josh Downs and Keenan Allen. Are you dropping them for Juju Smith-Schuster, for Demario Douglas, or what? I think if you're stuck and you need to have somebody now, absolutely.

Then you're going to be dropping these guys if you can't trust them and or play them. I think Juju makes more sense than both, just given the circumstances, you know, understanding that there's a potential downgrade with richardson and not having keenan keenan is easy to drop for any of these guys that are available this week you know so it's not a must add guy or a must hold guy but i think you're looking at the growth of caleb williams and what keenan allen can still be for him that's why i think you'd want to go out and acquire him if you can. But no, you should not be holding these guys for someone that you need for this week. Downs is a little tougher to make the argument for and against.

You know, four would be hopefully he's just getting so open and has been so reliable in those two games or two plus games with Joe Flacco, that that's sustainable for Richardson to just give him some easy targets and easy opportunities to make some plays. The downside clearly is that he's been in an accurate quarterback. Now we haven't seen a lot of time for these two guys together because the game that he returned was week three and then week four, Richardson gets hurt. So I would prefer to hold downs. I would like to make some other move to acquire Juju, but if that's the only move you can make,

then sure, you can drop him for, for Juju. I'm about to make a trade in a league. I'll tell you about it in a minute. I just got a trade offer. I'm very excited to hit accept. But Jamie,

the shallow league tight ends are really interesting, especially Evan Ingram coming off a hundred yard game with 10 catches on 10 targets. And then Mark Andrews could be available in some leagues, Isaiah Likely. So let's talk about those guys real quick. Yeah, hopefully Andrews is starting to get back to being Andrews again. Two games ago, he was more involved, outplayed by Likely and Kohler from a touchdown perspective. But then he comes back and not a huge amount of targets, but was the most

productive game of his season. And so based on what he's capable of, he's certainly worth buying into. You mentioned Ingram healthy now, and going to be, I hope a huge factor for Trevor Lawrence moving forward to TJ Hawkinson could return as early as this week. The practice window has not been open for him. So just keep that in mind for anybody that's been stashing him on an IR spot. The joke who hopefully we'll get a quarterback change soon. Would be the best thing for him, but did have five catches from Deshaun Watson. They're just not throwing the ball down the field, but he'll be good in PPR.

Koukoumet, I think, is worth holding through his bye week, just based on, again, what Caleb Williams has done, but very similar to Keenan Allen. If you need to drop him for a tight end for this week, then he's also someone you consider moving on from. See my trade? No. Just traded trade? No. Just traded Joe Burrow,

six point for passing touchdown leagues for Dak Prescott and Kareem Hunt. You traded Joe Burrow for Dak Prescott and Kareem Hunt. I have Baker Mayfield, and I have Tajay Spears and Zach Moss in my starting lineup right now. Okay. I love it. And Joe Mixon.

All right. Good stuff. All right, Dave. None of those guys are – what are you wasting my time for? None of those guys are available in my league. Who am I looking at? Players available in 80% or more of CBS Sports League. It's a quarterback.

It's Drake May. We've talked a lot about him. Aggressive thrower. He'll run the football. Good source of stats. He'll turn the ball over a little bit too. Worried about those three matchups after this week, but he's the number one guy to go after. The only other quarterback that is potentially a start for this week that you can go and get is Andy Dalton.

81% available, but some guys that are on the waiver wire in the majority of leagues who could be starting soon at quarterback. Ears open to QB leaguers, Russell Wilson, Mason Rudolph. And would I totally drop Joe Flacco and just let him go? I don't know if I'm ready to do that yet. I might do that come Sunday, but I don't know if I'm ready to let him go just yet, but he is out there in 80 plus percent of leagues running back. Same thing. Sean Tucker, 99% available. Isaac Garendo,

92% available. The order could flip there based on what you need. Lots of other running backs. Tyler Goodson, Adam was about to talk about what I said, which is he looks better than Trey Sermon certainly plays more on passing downs than Trey Sermon. And I kind of like him this week as a PPR flex.

If you're, if you're in need other running backs there's ty johnson who is still going to play third downs for the bills kamani vod doll is a is a very good stash in la uh dearness johnson 99 available patrick taylor 99 so who's like your favorite you know if you had to give your top two deep league running backs videl oh it's going to be Garendo and Tucker. Okay. Yeah.

Um, okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I want two more after those guys. Uh, sure.

Goodson. And I'd probably stash the doll. Okay. All right, go ahead. Wide receivers. Am I going too fast or giving you too many names? Just,

just make sure you prioritize them. That's all I'd say. Cause the names are good to know, but I want to know who you like the best. DeMario Douglas is who I like best at wide receiver for the deep leagues, 83% available. Whittington's right behind him, but he might be just a one-week thing. He might be a zero-week thing. If Cooper Cup comes back, he's 84% available. And then guys that are just like bi-week replacement types of wide receivers. Maybe they could be on your bench. Rashad Bateman,

Bob means Devon valet. These are all guys that are available in 90% plus of CBS leagues. One more Troy Franklin and Denver 97% available. I wonder if his playing time eventually starts to creep up. And then at tight end, Juwan Johnson, 85% available, Noah fan,

93% available. And I would say Greg Dorch is another wide receiver this week if you need one. He's 9% rostered, I believe. Look, obviously this is deep leagues, but got five targets. Three for 36 on five targets. He also fumbled, but obviously not right now expecting Marvin Harrison. So, you know, could open things up for Dortch. Okay.

Well, I was watching the game last night on my phone because I'm a dedicated worker at Yankee Stadium taking in game one of the ALCS. And the thing I noticed about the game, I was like, man, there really seemed to be a lot of flags because I wasn't paying 100% attention. There were 22 called penalties, 22 accepted penalties, 22 accepted penalties.

It was crazy. Every time I looked down, the little flag logo was up on the game, but the Bills win it 23-20, and it was a pretty damn good game for fantasy. If you started Khalil Shakir, he was only starting 5% of leagues. He only played 38% of the snaps. He did not have a good game. If you started James Cook, 49% of the snaps,

that's now twice that we've been burned by an elite running back on Monday night, McCaffrey and James Cook. It sucks. And, you know, sorry. I mean, I think we kind of expected him to play, but we definitely, you know, hopefully you backed him up.

Hopefully you back him up. When we were on our live stream on Sunday, almost anytime anybody had a question for James Cook, we talked about backing him up and doing something to protect yourself in case he doesn't play. Okay. So with that said, any mate, Oh, Josh Allen, you want to guess his start percentage?

90%. 87. 76%. made oh josh allen you wanted to guess his start percentage 90 87 76 josh i don't want to say his name i don't want to embarrass him we all make stupid decisions but someone i know someone that you oh i know someone too yeah same guy started daniel jones over josh allen still won by like a point he won by a point. Oh man, I wish he had lost on that move. That would have been so bad. So funny. Anyway, Allen comes through. He did win big earlier this year in something else.

He did win big earlier this year in something else. Oh yeah, that's true. That's true. I'm still lost right now. It was Schneier and he kicked my ass in tennis, which is what Jamie's referring to to but schneier has got his juggernaut dynasty team that was able to overcome daniel jones anyway josh allen was great aaron rogers was good a lot of it was the hail mary what about alan lazard when are we gonna you know i i keep i kind of pair him with tyler lockett they're both pretty good like they're getting it done obviously you had uh like almost 12 points

on the hail mary for lazard but dave is he someone that we could start is he a number three receiver you could put him in that bucket i think he's more of a bi-week replacement receiver than a number three receiver but he's definitely in the conversation as someone who can get you north of 10 ppr points week after week i I mean, he's done it. Yeah. It's all, it's huge. Is everything right in the world for Brees Hall now? 18 carries, 113 yards, five catches, 56 yards against a great matchup against a team that

gives up the most receiving yards to running backs. But Jamie is Brees Hall who was 97% started back to being Brees Hall. Yeah. I mean, I don't know how many times I said last week, buy low on Bijan Robinson and buy low on Brees Hall because the matchups were so good for them that your window was closing if you're going to try and get them.

So the hope would be not only was it the matchup, but there was a play caller change, you know? And so does Todd Downing just realize we got to throw the ball to Brees Hall more because that was missing the two weeks prior. And he could clearly be the catalyst of your offense and take pressure off Aaron Rodgers by using him a lot more in the run game the the thing I think that would have

probably freaked people out and still might just because it happened you know Braylon Allen got the short area touchdown that got called back is that something you know you talked about this a few weeks ago Adam that you know Breesall was struggling in that regard and there was the story about you know who's the I think he was asked who's the goal line back and he said it was him. So just keep that in mind. But obviously if he's getting, you know, 20 plus touches or the opportunity to get 20 touches and to be four or five plus catches in, in, in the passing game, that's what made him special last year with 76 receptions. You thought it'd be at least north of 50.

I think it still will be. So no, no concerns. Yes. Yeah. Everything's right in the breeze hall world. I think the line was healthier too. They got Morgan Moses back at right tackle. Definitely helped.

That helped. I don't know what they're going to do at left tackle now because Tyron Smith got beat up pretty good. But I think the nice thing about Hall is that he was consistently good. You'll look in the box score and you'll see a 42-yard run. He was still good in the first half, certainly consistent over the course of the game. So a refreshing change for breeze.

Uh, and then just give me final thoughts on Garrett Wilson now coming off of two strong games. And obviously we've got the Devante Adams thing, but don't make a trade. Don't make sure. No jets. Don't make a trade.

Yeah. You're good jets. You don't, you don't need Devonta Adams anymore it's Buffalo that really needs him I love it looked like he was on the same page with Rodgers love the touchdown play where Rodgers was like going one way but he knew all along where he was going with the ball perfect placement for Garrett Wilson to catch it get his feet down almost had two touchdowns yeah almost had two yeah I feel like he almost had three, unless I'm crazy.

Oh, no, because I forgot. The one that was called incomplete was overturned to being a touchdown. Yeah, all right. And then if anybody saw Aaron Rodgers, not kind of, definitely blamed Mike Williams for the interception at the end of the game. He said he ran the wrong route.

I'm not saying he's wrong. You could see the frustration on Aaron Rodgers in the post-game press conference. He said he ran the wrong route. I'm not saying he's wrong. You could see the frustration on Aaron Rodgers in the post-game press conference. He seemed really pissed. Somebody texted me, did Williams just tear his ACL again? Like the way he fell? Yeah. I mean, looking at it, I thought that was all on Rodgers. But what he said was that he looked up, he thought Williams would be running a different route. Then he realized he wasn't, so that changed the throw. That's why it was underthrown. Okay, on the waiver wire, the quarterbacks.

Let's see. I don't want to repeat. Oh, drop-o-meter. Sorry. I guess let's do drop-o-meter real quick here. Where's my drop-o-meter? I forgot to put it in the notes. Okay, forget it.

Let's just talk about the players. You've got to do it. Jamie's got drop candidates in each section, so we'll talk about those guys. Okay, forget it. Let's just talk about the players. You got to do it. Jamie's got drop candidates in each section, so we'll talk about those guys. Okay, fine. So why don't we do that then? Like, Jamie's drop candidates at quarterback are Justin. These are easy ones. Justin

Herbert, Deshaun Watson, and Derek Carr. It's, you know, there's no reason to hold on to those guys. I mean, I kind of like Herbert this week. They don't throw. I mean, I kind of like Herbert this week. They don't throw. I mean, this is like the best game he's had. He's had the best game was still sub 16 points.

Like there's nobody starting him in a one quarterback. No, I don't think you're starting him, but I guess you're right. You're not starting him. Is he a good bi-week quarterback? I'd rather have may. He's at Arizona.

If there's no Cooper cup, do I take Stafford over Herbert? I'm not sure if I do that. They're the same. They both haven't reached 60. I mean, I'm looking at my rankings right now. I've got Trevor Lawrence ahead of both of them. So I shouldn't have even brought it up. Yes, you can move on from Justin Herbert.

We haven't talked about Trevor Lawrence. So we have talked about, you know, Caleb long term, Anthony Richardson long term. Gino Smith's at Atlanta this week. Do you like, who do you like better this week? Geno Smith at Atlanta or Justin Fields against the Jets? Geno. Geno. Okay.

And Sam Darnold ahead of everyone. Like Tim Darnold. We've named the last 30 seconds. Yeah. Even ahead of Drake Bay. Is Sam Darnold top 12 for you this week? Yes. Okay. May would be the, May. Is Sam Darnold top 12 for you this week? Yes. Okay.

May would be the most of the guys that are really available. He would be the best to get facing the Jaguars. Then Stafford for Jamie. Then Daniel Jones. Andy Dalton. You know, Dalton was working on a pretty decent game. Then he threw a really bad interception against the Falcons.

But he gets Washington this week. So they've gotten better, though. They have, you know, but he gets Washington this week. They've gotten better, though. They have. They sort of have. Right. I wonder if those injuries make it an easier matchup for them because now Dalton will have no pass rush. He also has offensive line.

Not just that, though. Three weeks ago, Kyler Murray scored 11 fantasy points. He had a 104.7 passer rating. Deshaun Watson was bad because he's Deshaun Watson. Last week, Lamar Murray scored 11 fantasy points. He had a 104.7 passer rating. Deshaun Watson was bad because he's Deshaun Watson. Last week, Lamar Jackson scored about 21 points, but he had a 114.7 passer rating. He just gave the ball to Derrick Henry a few

times. It's not like they were that good, and now they do have two injuries up front. Tua Tungabailoa is the long-term play. Bo Nix? Bo Nix has scored 19 or more points in three or four games. Three or four games. And two straight games with 24 or more fantasy points.

And the Saints have been a little bit rough the last two weeks. Like, Mahomes threw for 331 yards. Didn't have a big game. But then Baker Mayfield carved him up. I don't know. It's weird. It's like I can't really imagine anyone starting Bo Nix. But give him a shout out.

He's been good. All right. And then Aiden O'Connell is pretty. Aiden O'Connell would be kind of interesting if Adams and Myers play because the Rams have a bad defense. I should almost wish for like some sort of diet pill while we're wishing about things for people right now.

They have like five of them, Dave. Maybe a magic diet shot that I can put into my side and then I'm miraculously thin. Sure. My friend lost 100 pounds. Dave O'Connell will throw to Devonta Adams again. Right. All right.

And then Spencer Rattler, Tyler Huntley, Jameis Winston, and Mason Rudolph are definitely guys, if you're in a 2QB league, super flex league, that you could be looking at. Watson and Levis have been so bad. Any interest in Aaron Rogers at Pittsburgh or Trevor Lawrence, who's three straight games with 18.8 or more fantasy points, three straight games with two touchdowns, Rogers or Lawrence Rogers is at Pittsburgh. Lawrence is it gets the Patriots in London. I like Lawrence better. I think

he can get you around that 18 point range again. Yep. All right. The running backs, a lot of running back talk today, but take a look, see if Raheem Mostert's available. What about Jalen Wright? Jalen Wright was really good last week or two weeks ago against the Patriots.

Jamie, what is your interest level in Wright? It's moderate. You know, A-chan returned to practice Monday, similar to the other guys in a non-contact jersey, so just keep an eye on that,

dealing with a concussion. So if he plays, it's hard to say jalen wright's going to get a lot of touches if he's out then obviously jalen wright has some flex appeal i just think with most are now healthy and hn hopefully coming through the concussion protocol after a week off it's hard to say jalen wright's a must that guy but long term look most it's already been banged up he's 32 years old hn's got an injury track record that unfortunately is something i keep an eye on so not a bad stash candidate in deeper leagues. If you're looking to start

somebody for this week, though, even with some of the murky situations that we've talked about with Davis and Chandler and Grendo and Tucker, it's those guys should all be picked up ahead of Jalen Wright. Stash one of these three. Jalen Wright, Trey Benson, Kamani Vidal? Vidal would be one. Benson would be two. Wright would be three. But if you tell me right now, A-Chan is out for this week, Wright would be the first one to get. I'm surprised. I would have said Benson ahead of Vidal.

Well, I mean, you're just banking on J.K. Dobbins' history. And Conor's history. But if do you think Vidal looks like a lead running back? I mean, we've barely seen him. I know. That's what I'm saying. I feel like Benson comes in and is James Conner, plays the role. Vidal, I wonder if he splits more.

I mean, with Haskins, sure, they can go that route just because it's a mission guy for Harbaugh. But I still think if you're looking at who's more likely to step into a starting role sooner, it's just, you know, unfortunately, what Dobbins has dealt with in his career. Yeah, that's a good point. Although, we can't say with 100% certainty that James Conner's A-OK. Yeah, if you're talking right now, you say that there's an injury to Connor, you're picking up first. Maybe Benson should be first, and then Vidal.

And then, of course, there's Tyler Algier out there. If Jonathan Brooks and Tyler Algier were on your waiver wire, who would you prioritize? Depends what I need. If I don't need anybody this week, it's Brooks by a lot. If I need somebody, then it's Algier taking on Seattle. Okay. We want to add Ray Davis,

Ty Chandler, Isaac Arendo. Could even take a look at Patrick Taylor. But not super excited about that. About Taylor, obviously. Sean Tucker. Dearness Johnson could have a role for the Jaguars. And Kamani Vidal. Jalen Wright.

Jalen Warren, 53% roster. Bad game for him. six carries for seven yards. But at least he lit a fire under Najee Harris. Yeah, right. But you think about the big picture. You can't use the long run anymore. I know, I know. You think about the big picture, though.

I mean, we know what Najee Harris has been. Maybe Jalen Warren can be better than that. He broke some guys' ankles for the Raiders. He's great. Jeremy McNichols, surprising, just barely played two touches at Baltimore. They couldn't run. They kind of gave up on running. But he's got Carolina this week.

So I think he'll do some running if there's no Brian Robinson. The word of the day is if. It's so crazy. It sucks. Emmanuel Wilson, Trey Benson, Blake Corum, Clyde Edwards-Ziller, of the day is if yeah it's so crazy it sucks um emmanuel wilson trey benson blake coram clyde edwards z lair damian pierce probably the handcuff for joe mixon it's actually so one other question should should waiver priority for running backs also be based on who you have like obviously if i've got james cook i'm gonna make the beeline for Ray Davis. I should have had Ray Davis already, but if I don't have Ray Davis, I'm going to prioritize him anyway,

but am I still going to prioritize Ray Davis? If I've got Aaron Jones, just depends on, you know, what you want to do with your roster. Cause you may end up with Aaron Jones playing this week and James Cook, not, then you have the luxury of those two guys. So it's always the conversation of your handcuff versus somebody else's handcuff. I would always look at take the best player. And so if you're looking at the best player, unless the situation is just, you know, over like we know Aaron Jones is out for weeks, then clearly you want to take Ty Chandler no matter what.

But if we got two murky situations and you're looking at who's the better option, if he gets the job, as Adam alluded to, Ty Chandler has been rather pedestrian in his opportunities Ray Davis looked awesome against a really good defense I would much rather have Ray Davis I don't care if I have James Cook or not I I tend to agree with you on that situation and just in general if you're okay with like late week late week pickups of Tyler Goodson Jeremy Jeremy McNichols, Tyler Algier, you should go for the best player first and not necessarily your handcuff. Yeah. And as a mix-in manager,

I don't think I'm going to put in a waiver claim for Damian Pierce. That is one that I don't think anyone's really going to pick him up. So I don't think it's worth wasting a waiver wire priority. But, yeah. If you go back to because you were big on this adam in the preseason big but you you mentioned a few times in the preseason you had referenced what d'amico ryans had said that he feels like there's a one-two punch with mixon and pierce and this is the first time we saw it yeah i mean i don't really think

it's a threat to joe mixon but no no but look if they're going to give somebody else touches and pierce can take advantage of it in good matchups like why would you not consider him Joe Mixon, but no, no, no. But look, if they're going to give somebody else touches and Pierce can take advantage of it in good matchups, like, why would you not consider him a lesser version of Tyler algae or a lesser version of some of these other guys that are getting touches in, in an explosive offense? You saw what they're capable of. Yep. On the job list, two carries for 60 yards and a touchdown in the fourth

quarter of a blowout. So again, not, not nothing sustainable, but Mixon's already missed time with a high ankle sprain. Why would you not want to stash Pierce? If you have the ability to do that, that's a fair point, but I don't know if I just, I guess I'm just a little too hung up on it being a one, two punch when it's like one guy's Tyson, Adam, a few times in the, in the preseason. I think just once, but fair enough.

No, this isn't about Pierce being anything good, but clearly this is an offense that's explosive. You've seen now a backup running back, whether it was Dario Gumbawale in two different ways, getting 14 PPR points in the two of the games mixed and missed. This is not a bad guy to just in a deeper lead to stash. Okay, let's do some drops here. Jamie has Jerome Ford, who's going to

miss some time, and Nick Chubb's coming back. He's a drop. Would you drop Devin Singletary, or wait? I'd try to wait. Okay, how about Tajay Spears? You can drop him. Yeah, I forgot to put him on the list. He's droppable.

How about, you did put Justice Hill on the list, and Roshan Johnson. You'll see Roshan dropped in a bunch of leagues. In the same boat as Damian Pierce as someone who could be a winning lottery ticket.

Conceivably. He's not a must-hold. Alright, wide receivers. We like Juju, Demario Douglas, A winning lottery ticket, conceivably. Yeah, but during the virus, he's not a must-hold. Right. All right. Wide receivers. We like Juju, Demario Douglas. We like Christian Watson. We like Jordan Whittington and Tutu Atwell if Cooper Cup does not play.

Now, if Cooper Cup does play, is there any appeal to Tutu Atwell? No, I think Atwell is the one who stays on the field. Right, that's what I'm saying. And Whittington is the one who gets pushed out. Right. And Atwell, right. But you've got to figure, not as many targets for Atwell, because they'll all go to...

No, not as many. I'll league it. Let's talk about Xavier League. Xavier League at 39% rostered, and Washington's 28th against wide receivers. He has a touchdown in two of his last three games. The other one he left with an injury. So he's 39% roster.

Like I said, uh, Xavier league at Jamie, um, top 36 this week. Yes. Yeah. A lot,

a lot of potential, um, for a guy that's still learning the position and, and developing as long as, you know, you got two more games, at least for Adam Thielen being out, he's going to be on the field and getting those chances.

So sure. Dave mentioned Bob means and Rashad Bateman and deep leagues. Any thoughts on Michael Wilson this week who did catch a touchdown, uh, gets the chargers. We're not expecting at this point, Marvin Harrison, but you never know. He's had what eight or more targets in three or four or three in a row. Um, in terms of Wilson two weeks ago, he led them in receiving yards so this is a guy that we're seeing kyler murray lean on you know especially if there's going to be no marvin harrison now zay jones is expected to play so take that into account we'll see what that matters but i think he's a he's a step below xavier league yet you know so three three

receiver leagues and a flex you're considering him in p Yes. Man, we'll get tight ends in a second here. But I forgot to mention Jordan Addison. Jordan Addison, 82% rostered, getting Detroit this week. Did you mention Romeo Dobbs? No. We didn't mention him either. I don't mind putting him on the bench. You dropped Dontavion Wicks?

Yes. Dropped DeAndre Hopkins? Yes. Yes. Drop Deandre Hopkins. Yes. Yes. Calvin Ridley. Yes. They want to give him the ball. Squeaky wheel.

Second week in a row that they're saying that they really botched it last week. They, I don't love Ridley, but would I, would I pick them up and put them on my bench before Dobbs? I might. Not me.

I don't love it. Would you drop Darius Slayton? Yes. Not yet, because what if Neighbors does miss another game? I know there's optimism. We're ranking him, but what if? All right, tight ends. Could we get TJ Hawkinson back this week?

It's possible, right? So what they initially said was that they may take all three weeks to allow him to get back because they have a three-week window. So it's, I think, just one of those wait-and-see monitor situations. He should be rostered at this point, even in leagues where you don't have an IR spot, if you can carry two tight ends, just with the hope of what he can be coming back. Because the concern coming in was, is Darnold going to be able to support or McCarthy at the time support, you know, all of these targets and Hawkinson coming off the injury?

Well, he's clearly done a good job in his, his starts at this point, you know, whether it was Addison or Naylor with Justin Jefferson. So, I mean, Hawkinson's got the opportunity to step in and be second or third on the team and targets. Now you got to hope they throw the ball a little bit more because the volume hasn't been there with what we thought, but now there's a running back issue. So yes, absolutely. I think there's a chance for Hawkinson to be at least a low end starting tenant. I don't think he's going to play this week against Detroit, but it's a short week for

them. Week eight, they're at LA, the Rams. That might be when we see him come back. And if that's when he comes back, his next three games would be, or his first three hasn't played yet. Rams, Colts,

Jaguars. Nice. Yeah. Okay. So you can take a look and see if Mark, so Mark Andrews, Evan Ingram, TJ Hawkinson,

how would you rank them? If they were available, Ingram, Andrews, Hawkinson. I'll agree. Would you rather have David Njoku or Hunter Henry this week? Henry. I think I have Henry ranked higher. We got Taysom Hill that we like. We've got Zach Ertz, maybe.

He's going up against Carolina. They've been bad against... Well, they haven't been that bad since week one. But not great. Dalton Schultz, eight targets last week with Nico Collins out. Green Bay gives up the second most fantasy points to tight ends. Kate Otten caught a touchdown last

week. He had six targets. Baltimore gives up the fifth most fantasy points to tight ends. Colby Parkinson, if Cooper Cup doesn't play, gets a lot of targets. He had 13 two weeks ago. He had seven the week before that. Yeah, against Green Bay. That's part of the reason why Green Bay is giving up so many points to tight ends.

And Dave mentioned Noah Fant, who had a good game last week, facing his man. He's actually got six catches in two of his last four. Okay. Six catches in each game in two of his last four. You can't say no. Thank you then. And then there's John O'Smith. Would you get away from Tyler Conklin? How many of these guys would you drop Conklin for? A bunch.

Henry for sure. Jawan Johnson for sure. Fant for sure. Parkinson for sure. Otten for sure. If you're in a deep league, we haven't mentioned Grant Calcaterra. He had four catches for 67 yards on four targets with Dallas Goddard leaving last week.

I mean, he'll do what Dallas Goddard does or maybe like 70% of what Dallas Goddard does. Not that Dallas Goddard was amazing with the other receivers on the field. He did get off to a decent start last week. Goddard did before he got hurt.

Maybe you can squeeze out eight PPR points from Grant Calcaterra. on the field. He did get off to a decent start last week. Goddard did before he got hurt. And it's time to move away. Maybe you can squeeze out eight PPR points from Grant Calcaterra. Time to move away from Mike Kosicki. At DST, the Chargers are 74% rostered. See if you can grab them. The Saints, on a short week, getting Denver. The Bengals at Cleveland.

The Commanders against the Panthers. And the Rams against Las Vegas. Kickers, Jake Bates, Will Reichert, Cameron Dicker, and Austin Siebert. Siebert, Dave? How do you pronounce that one? I think it's Siebert. Okay. Holding him to that. If he's wrong, it's his fault. We'll talk to you tomorrow on Fantasy Football Today.

And have a great day, everybody. Also, check it out on CBS Sports Network at 1 p.m. Eastern. For Dave and Jamie and Thomas, I'm Adam. See you tomorrow.